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Speaker 4: Welcome into a special installment of the Official Jets Podcast.
Speaker 4: I'm Erica all and we recently made a trip down
Speaker 4: to South Florida for the twenty twenty five NFL Annual
Speaker 4: League Meeting. Hope you've had a chance to enjoy our
Speaker 4: conversations with both head coach Aaron Glenn and GM Darren Moujie.
Speaker 4: What we're gonna do today is dive into their backgrounds
Speaker 4: a little bit. With three head coaches Buccaneers head coach
Speaker 4: Todd Bowles, Vikings head coach Kevin O'Connell, and Bear's head
Speaker 4: coach Ben Johnson, there are a lot of connections here.
Speaker 4: Bowls of former Jets head coach, which himself was a
Speaker 4: position coach of Glenn's with the Jets in two thousand
Speaker 4: and the Cowboys in two thousand and five, two thousand
Speaker 4: and six. O'Connell, a Jets quarterback in two thousand and
Speaker 4: nine twenty ten, was part of a quarterback room at
Speaker 4: San Diego State that included Mougie and ink Strand and
Speaker 4: Ben Johnson, the Lions' former offensive coordinator, was just in
Speaker 4: Detroit with not Elie Glenn, but ang Strand and new
Speaker 4: Jets old line coach Steve Heyden. So we visited with
Speaker 4: each of them and we figured we'd share those as part.
Speaker 1: Of a special podcast TV.
Speaker 2: So great you been, to Eric, I've been great. I
Speaker 2: got no complaints.
Speaker 4: What was your reaction when you had heard the Jets
Speaker 4: had hired everyone?
Speaker 2: I was so happy for him. I was so proud
Speaker 2: of him. He's done a great job the past couple
Speaker 2: of years coaching the Lions, and you could see it
Speaker 2: in their play and I think he was a big
Speaker 2: part of the reason why they were successful.
Speaker 4: All right, So let's go all the way back to
Speaker 4: two thousand, because you don't a g for damn near
Speaker 4: three decades. When he's in your room with the New
Speaker 4: York Jets, and you're the secondary coach. What were those interactions?
Speaker 1: Like?
Speaker 2: Very intelligent. It was my first NFL job actually, when
Speaker 2: I came to the Jets in two thousand and it
Speaker 2: was him and Ray Mickens and Marcus Coleman and Victor
Speaker 2: Green and Chris Hayes and all those guys. So it
Speaker 2: was very professional. He's very smart. He understood that. But
Speaker 2: as a coach, I knew I just had to coach
Speaker 2: ball and I had to overlook all that. But he
Speaker 2: was such a smart player and instinctive player, and he
Speaker 2: studied profusely, and I think that's the reason why he's
Speaker 2: a head coach today.
Speaker 1: You're such an authentic guy.
Speaker 4: How intense was he and also can you talk about
Speaker 4: ag maybe as a player, even being a straight shooter,
Speaker 4: or your communications with him.
Speaker 1: As a player.
Speaker 2: He was so intense that if he gave up a
Speaker 2: five hitching practice, he'd be pissed off. Everything he did
Speaker 2: was trying to stop the ball or pick the ball
Speaker 2: off or stop the play. From his footwork to his angles,
Speaker 2: to his tackling, to the way he dressed on the road.
Speaker 2: He was so professional. He was so intent on winning,
Speaker 2: and he was such a detailed guy. And I think
Speaker 2: that really carried over to everything he's doing today.
Speaker 4: Did you see that in him that, hey, maybe down
Speaker 4: the line, this guy is going to be a coach
Speaker 4: or was it so early at that point we're talking
Speaker 4: about twenty five years ago.
Speaker 2: I think it was early. I knew how smart he was.
Speaker 2: It was just a matter if he wanted to coach.
Speaker 2: You know, he was so good at so many things
Speaker 2: and so detailed that so many things. I think Aaron's
Speaker 2: one of those guys that'll be successful no matter what
Speaker 2: he did.
Speaker 4: So the second time around, you're in Dallas coaching the DBS.
Speaker 4: So he comes to the Cowboys in two thousand and five.
Speaker 4: What was that transition like for you guys?
Speaker 2: He was a little older than Yeah, so he played
Speaker 2: nickel for me. He was my nickel corner, which is
Speaker 2: just like a starter as well, because he was so smart.
Speaker 2: We had Henry and Newman on the outside and he
Speaker 2: went in on the inside. He did a hell of
Speaker 2: a job for us. And he was the same guy
Speaker 2: that he was back in two thousand when he was
Speaker 2: playing star corner for the Jets.
Speaker 4: So he was a little bit towards the end of
Speaker 4: his career at that point, Yeah, did you use him
Speaker 4: in terms of being like a mentor for your room?
Speaker 4: As far as you know, he could be a second
Speaker 4: teacher out here.
Speaker 2: It was naturally a mentor the way he prepared. Everybody
Speaker 2: saw how he prepared. So Henry and Newman picked up
Speaker 2: a ton of tips from this guy because what he
Speaker 2: did and how he watched film taught those guys a
Speaker 2: lot because they didn't know how to watch tape that well.
Speaker 4: Okay, what was your reaction when you heard that he
Speaker 4: was getting in a college scouty twenty twelve, twenty thirteen
Speaker 4: with the Jets.
Speaker 2: We talked about it and he wanted to try it
Speaker 2: out and scout, and then he wanted to get on
Speaker 2: the coaching side. So we had kept in touch over
Speaker 2: the years, very good friends, and you know, he wanted
Speaker 2: to see what it was like and he got a
Speaker 2: taste of it and everything else.
Speaker 1: Then he got into coaching.
Speaker 4: How much do you think that background the scouting for
Speaker 4: a couple of years will help him as he embarks
Speaker 4: on this role with the Jets as being the head coach.
Speaker 2: I think it'll help him a great deal. I started
Speaker 2: out as a scout as well, so it helped me
Speaker 2: a great deal because as a coach, when you're looking
Speaker 2: at players now, you really don't know how to look
Speaker 2: at offensive linemen or defensive linemen, especially coming in being
Speaker 2: a dB coach. You can do that with the wide
Speaker 2: else and the DBS to your eyes are closed, but
Speaker 2: it teaches you a different perspective of what to look
Speaker 2: for when you're looking for offensive linemen, so you have
Speaker 2: more input in the draft and when you're looking at
Speaker 2: players on the road and not just relying on the
Speaker 2: scouts because you were a scout yourself.
Speaker 4: Can you speak to the influence that Bill Parcells had
Speaker 4: on glind because he was one of your big time
Speaker 4: teachers as well.
Speaker 2: Bill has a huge impact on everybody, bhil Is. He
Speaker 2: does such a great job of teaching. It may be
Speaker 2: hard teaching at the time or what you think. I
Speaker 2: think it's hard teaching, but it's really life lessons and
Speaker 2: they apply to coaching, and Bill made sure he does
Speaker 2: a good job of that. And believe me, anytime we
Speaker 2: mess up or he thinks we need something, you're gonna
Speaker 2: get a text. Till this day, you're gonna get a
Speaker 2: text or a phone call from him, and he's gonna just
Speaker 2: drop a hint of wisdom and he's gonna let you
Speaker 2: know and you can carry on and move on from there.
Speaker 2: But I think Bill was a big influence on him.
Speaker 4: As you saw Aaron rise throughout the coaching ranks. What
Speaker 4: were communications like over the years.
Speaker 2: We talked a lot more when he was with the
Speaker 2: Saints than we did the lines. He knew where I
Speaker 2: was when he needed me, and he's a very smart guy.
Speaker 2: You he doesn't need much talking to to figure it out.
Speaker 2: That's what I told him, and make the decisions on
Speaker 2: his own. And he can figure all that stuff out
Speaker 2: because he's a very bright coach. He needs to talk,
Speaker 2: he nowhere to find me. But when we played against
Speaker 2: each other a lot in the Saints, we would talk
Speaker 2: defense a lot more.
Speaker 4: Yeah, you've had a lot of success there with the Buccaneers.
Speaker 4: Can you talk about some of your battles with ag
Speaker 4: over the years.
Speaker 2: Oh, they were tough. Now he had that second Theary
Speaker 2: in New Orleans. They were tough to throw on. We
Speaker 2: had our battles and they was styning its quite a
Speaker 2: few times, and we was styning them some of the time.
Speaker 2: But we always talked after the games, and you know,
Speaker 2: it was always mutual respect from that standpoint, and that
Speaker 2: hasn't changed.
Speaker 4: As a coach, he's stressing teaching and development that from
Speaker 4: his staff.
Speaker 1: That's what you have to be.
Speaker 4: You got to be first a teacher in that second,
Speaker 4: you got to be able to develop. Have you seen
Speaker 4: that from him throughout his career so far?
Speaker 2: He's been great at it. He's been great at it.
Speaker 2: He can teach in such a unique way because he's
Speaker 2: played it, so he understands it. He can teach, and
Speaker 2: then he knows how to develop. He treats everybody individually
Speaker 2: different and that's what you need to move on as
Speaker 2: a coach.
Speaker 4: How much you think his experience in Detroit will help
Speaker 4: him with the Jets in terms of he got in
Speaker 4: a situation with Dan Campbell where they got a built
Speaker 4: and now he's taken over a year one with the Jets.
Speaker 2: I mean it will help him a great deal. They
Speaker 2: started from the ground up when he went there with
Speaker 2: the Detroit and he watched him go from a bad
Speaker 2: team to a great team and he was a part
Speaker 2: of that development, so he saw how it worked throughout
Speaker 2: that structure. So I think that'll that don't help him
Speaker 2: a great deal, does it?
Speaker 4: Resonate with you your defensive background when he's asked, hey, listen,
Speaker 4: what's it gonna be like you were a defensive coach?
Speaker 4: And he said, I just happened to coach on the
Speaker 4: defensive side of the ball.
Speaker 1: I am a coach. That's what I am. That's what
Speaker 1: we all are.
Speaker 2: But you know, they give us labels in this league,
Speaker 2: so you stop trying to defend it and you go
Speaker 2: with it. But he's gonna be a great football coach.
Speaker 1: You're gonna be rooting for him.
Speaker 2: As always rooting for him.
Speaker 1: Thanks TV.
Speaker 4: Yep, all right, So that was Todd Bowles, who coached
Speaker 4: AG as a player at both the New York Jets
Speaker 4: and with the Dallas Cowboys. But now we're gonna move
Speaker 4: on to Kevin O'Connell. I'm connell play quarterback at San
Speaker 4: Diego State. He in fact shared a quarterback room in
Speaker 4: two thousand and four with both Jets GM Darren Mugie
Speaker 4: and offensive coordinator Tanner Engstrand.
Speaker 1: Let's get to KOs.
Speaker 4: Kevin great senior here at the NFL league meetings.
Speaker 1: What are your memories with going back.
Speaker 5: To your time with the Yeah, it was, you know,
Speaker 5: it was such a unique time in my career because
Speaker 5: I had left New England and the next team that
Speaker 5: you go to is the rival, the New York Jets,
Speaker 5: and so different, you know, the way, you know, the
Speaker 5: way Rex ran things and from what I had been
Speaker 5: coming from in New England. But what it really was
Speaker 5: was it allowed me to form some really unique relationships
Speaker 5: Mark Sanchez, Nick Mangold, Jericho Cottrie, Dustin Keller. We had
Speaker 5: some Thomas Jones, Ladanian, Tomlinson during my time there. I mean,
Speaker 5: I just look back on some of these, some of
Speaker 5: these names that I still keep in touch with in
Speaker 5: many ways to this very day, and guys that impacted
Speaker 5: my football journey in.
Speaker 1: Such a positive way that I owe.
Speaker 5: I owe those guys so much for for allowing me
Speaker 5: to be comfortable sitting sitting right where I sit now
Speaker 5: as a head coach in the National Football League, which
Speaker 5: I'm sure many of them are still scratching their heads about.
Speaker 4: Hey, speaking of connections, let's go back to San Diego
Speaker 4: State two thousand and four.
Speaker 1: That quarterback room included.
Speaker 4: Kevin O'Connell, Yeah, Tanner Engstra and also Darren Mugie.
Speaker 1: Yep, unbelievable.
Speaker 5: And you know Darren and I you know legitimately have been,
Speaker 5: you know, competing in many ways since you know, he
Speaker 5: came into Sante State a year after me, Tanner was
Speaker 5: a junior college transfer. And I think it's I think
Speaker 5: it's kind of appropriate, right the like how our coaching
Speaker 5: journeys and and and Darren in the front office world,
Speaker 5: kind of how our journeys have went right, you know,
Speaker 5: you I would have loved to be recruited by Pack
Speaker 5: twelve schools and big schools, and I'm sure, you know,
Speaker 5: I'm sure Darren would have as well. And Tanner was
Speaker 5: a guy that went to junior the junior college route
Speaker 5: and eventually walked on at San Diego State and earned
Speaker 5: everything he's ever gotten. So what does he do as
Speaker 5: a coach? What do I do as a coach? What
Speaker 5: does Darren do as a front office guy? We go
Speaker 5: in and we just go to work, you know, go
Speaker 5: to work, put our heads down and learn and and
Speaker 5: do things with integrity, do things treating people.
Speaker 1: The right way.
Speaker 5: And what comes out of it is like I look
Speaker 5: at Darren, Moujie and Tanner instrands as guys that are
Speaker 5: success stories, but nowhere near the finish line of where
Speaker 5: their success ultimately will become because I think Darren's been
Speaker 5: ready to be a GM now for a while. I've
Speaker 5: been telling anybody that would listen about that and Tanner,
Speaker 5: I mean being around Ben, being around Ben Johnson and
Speaker 5: that great offensive staff Dan Campbell as the head coach.
Speaker 5: Tanner's been primed working in the same staff as AG
Speaker 5: for three four years now. I think it's set up
Speaker 5: for Tanner to have success. I think it's set up
Speaker 5: for Darren to you know, really run that show with
Speaker 5: AG and shoot a lot of guys I have so
Speaker 5: much respect for and being a former jet I, you know,
Speaker 5: and the fact that they're in the AFC, I can
Speaker 5: be rooting for those guys more oftentimes and not.
Speaker 4: Could you ever dream back in that situation that when
Speaker 4: you guys are maybe going over some plays or watching
Speaker 4: some tape, that you guys go.
Speaker 1: And have this future success. No, No, I think we
Speaker 1: were all.
Speaker 5: You know, that was a long time ago. Now, I
Speaker 5: mean I'm not the oldest guy in the world, but
Speaker 5: you know, two thousand and four, we're talking twenty one
Speaker 5: years ago and a lifetime ago, it seems. But what
Speaker 5: I can tell you is I can remember vividly thinking
Speaker 5: that these guys are great people, great communicators, very smart,
Speaker 5: and they both those guys were very talented as players.
Speaker 5: But what's transcended all that or those other traits that
Speaker 5: have allowed them to really thrive in this second career,
Speaker 5: if you want to call it that, And you know,
Speaker 5: in the most competitive landscape in the world, these guys
Speaker 5: are now one of thirty two offensive coordinators and general managers,
Speaker 5: which is pretty spectacular considering that I also have become
Speaker 5: a head coach.
Speaker 1: So the impact now, So.
Speaker 4: Speaking of Mouge, you just said that you've been telling
Speaker 4: people that he's been ready to be.
Speaker 1: A gem for a while. Yeah, why did you say that?
Speaker 5: For one, I just we've had some great conversations in
Speaker 5: years past about you know, whether it's the draft process
Speaker 5: more oftentimes than not combine participants. Hey, you know, here's
Speaker 5: how I saw him on tape. And normally it's after
Speaker 5: the draft, you know, where we're not sharing secrets before.
Speaker 5: But hey, I really like this guy. I really like
Speaker 5: this guy. Well, why well, when I was watching his tape,
Speaker 5: I saw, you know, him run this route or he
Speaker 5: had this play in the red zone, and you start
Speaker 5: to realize this guy knows ball and he knows, he
Speaker 5: knows how to see it, he knows how to scout it.
Speaker 5: He's got a great scouting background combined with working side
Speaker 5: by side with some great people and John Elway and
Speaker 5: Matt Russell and George Payton and all these guys that
Speaker 5: really have primed him to now command and lead his
Speaker 5: own scouting department and his own personnel department. So I've
Speaker 5: been you know, if any coaches asked or any organizations
Speaker 5: asked over the last couple of years, anybody any guys
Speaker 5: that I know out there that seem ready. Darren Mujib
Speaker 5: was always one of the first names that I would say.
Speaker 4: You're an outstanding play caller. What's this going to be
Speaker 4: like for Tanner in year one of being a coordinate.
Speaker 5: Yeah, he's got a you know, there's gonna be some challenges,
Speaker 5: you know, no question going to a new place, and
Speaker 5: so much of their success in Detroit that he was
Speaker 5: heavily involved with, where with a lot of the same
Speaker 5: players in the same system, kind of growing there with
Speaker 5: Ben over the course of some years, he's gonna have
Speaker 5: to build a system. He's gonna have to figure out
Speaker 5: what the New York Jets want to be as an offense,
Speaker 5: running the football, throwing the football situationally, and then build
Speaker 5: foundational coaching points that they can hold those players too,
Speaker 5: and and build around year in and year out, because
Speaker 5: you want it to be something that sustains. And you know,
Speaker 5: that's the biggest thing about offensive football in the NFL
Speaker 5: is the challenges that come every single week. They can
Speaker 5: be different, they can morph and changed throughout a season,
Speaker 5: and you've got to find ways of being able to
Speaker 5: adapt to that without changing who you are and not
Speaker 5: having an identity at all. And that's hard to do
Speaker 5: sometimes as an early, you know, early in your coordinator journey,
Speaker 5: because you're trying to establish yourself. You're trying to make
Speaker 5: sure the stat sheet looks right, you're trying to make
Speaker 5: sure all that matters. And what he's got to remember
Speaker 5: is all that matters is winning and the role that
Speaker 5: he'll play as the offensive coordinator and helping get that done.
Speaker 4: Speaking of identity, let's get out of here with this one,
Speaker 4: Aaron Glenn. Yeah, I'd be remiss if I didn't ask
Speaker 4: about your battles with him. No, man, what do you
Speaker 4: think he's going to be like here at his next step?
Speaker 4: Head coaches here so.
Speaker 1: Much so much respect for him.
Speaker 5: Another guy talk about being primed and ready. He's been
Speaker 5: you know, he's been a guy that could have been,
Speaker 5: you know, a head coach years years ago.
Speaker 1: What he did in Detroit.
Speaker 5: The way those guys played their grit, their play style,
Speaker 5: their toughness. I got guys that love football to all
Speaker 5: play together is one unit. AG's got every quality that
Speaker 5: that Jets fans would want in a head coach, and
Speaker 5: he does it in a way that is so hymn.
Speaker 5: It's so authentic, it's so real. You can't help but
Speaker 5: gravitate towards that. I think the world of them. I've
Speaker 5: competed against him, I've coached with them on some staffs before.
Speaker 5: So happy for Ag. And he's a great person. He's
Speaker 5: a great man. He's made it the right made it
Speaker 5: the right stuff to lead an organization. And I think
Speaker 5: Jets fans are gonna love him.
Speaker 1: Kayo. See, thanks so much, buddy, You got it man.
Speaker 1: Thank you, guys, great seeing you.
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Speaker 4: Good stuff there from Kevin O'Connell. Let's stay in a
Speaker 4: division though, And now we're gonna talk to Ben Johnson.
Speaker 4: Johnson formally the Lions offensive coordinator. That's where Aaron Glenn
Speaker 4: is coming from. But not only just Aaron Glenn, but
Speaker 4: Tanner Engstrand served as a passing game coordinator for bed
Speaker 4: Jets in Detroit, and Steve Hyden was a tight ends
Speaker 4: coach for Ben Johnson. He's coming over with AG. He's
Speaker 4: gonna be the offensive line coach for the Jets. We
Speaker 4: had a chance to talk to Ben about AG, Tanner
Speaker 4: and Steve Hyden. What's this been like being here at
Speaker 4: your first league meetings and not only yourself, but you
Speaker 4: see Dan Campbell there at the NFC coach's breakfast, Aaron
Speaker 4: Glenn as well.
Speaker 6: It's been pretty cool. Both those guys I love, I
Speaker 6: absolutely love. I've had the last four years with both
Speaker 6: of them, and I respect the heck out of both
Speaker 6: of them as well. So those two guys are studs.
Speaker 6: They're both mentors to me. That's how I view it.
Speaker 6: Their brothers to me, and so it's been pretty cool
Speaker 6: over the last call it call it three days here
Speaker 6: to see.
Speaker 1: All of them. So what was that experience like for
Speaker 1: you in Detroit? Were you and Aaron.
Speaker 4: Competing against each other, but also obviously you're collaborating as
Speaker 4: well because you guys want the best for them.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 6: Yeah, We always felt like his scheme evolved over the years.
Speaker 1: Over the last four years.
Speaker 6: It started one way and then ended up going a
Speaker 6: different direction each and every year, and so we always
Speaker 6: felt like we were sharpening each other. He gave us
Speaker 6: all kinds of issues there in training camp that we
Speaker 6: had to be aware of, but we were trying to
Speaker 6: get our plays in and yet we knew that they
Speaker 6: were to necessarily ideal for Ag and what he was doing,
Speaker 6: and so there was a lot of back and forth.
Speaker 6: And I knew early on last year that we had
Speaker 6: a different unit and they when they were healthy, they
Speaker 6: were one of the best in the NFL. And and
Speaker 6: towards the end of the year there you saw the
Speaker 6: attrition due to injuries kind of caught up with us
Speaker 6: a little bit. But I thought AG did a heck
Speaker 6: of a job all year long. Why do you think
Speaker 6: he's ready for this opportunity right now? He's so unique
Speaker 6: in terms of a communicator, all right, He's got such
Speaker 6: a wealth of experience because obviously high level player when
Speaker 6: he played, has the coaching aspect down pat but also
Speaker 6: the scouting aspect of it down as well, because it's
Speaker 6: very it's very rare that you see the trifecta like
Speaker 6: that come together. He does all three at a high level.
Speaker 6: He communicates the standard. The players will love him, and
Speaker 6: yet they'll know that they're getting pushed and challenged every
Speaker 6: step of the way as well. And so it's been
Speaker 6: fun to see the staff that he put together. I
Speaker 6: think he's done a great job. I knew Steve Wolks
Speaker 6: was going to be one of the guys there on
Speaker 6: defense that he trusted. And then obviously I know Tanner
Speaker 6: really well and I think the world of Tanner.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 4: So Tanner it poised to be an offensive coordinator for
Speaker 4: the first time in the National Football League. He was
Speaker 4: your passing game coordinator. Can you talk about the last
Speaker 4: few years with him and his development?
Speaker 6: Man, He's he was an integral part of what we
Speaker 6: were doing there. I got to know him. It was
Speaker 6: before Dan even took the job there in Detroit. I
Speaker 6: think I think Tanner came on as a quality control
Speaker 6: there the last year of Patricia and he had a
Speaker 6: similar trajectory as I did. We just kind of climbed
Speaker 6: the ladder the same way, starting low and then tight
Speaker 6: end position and a passing game coordinator role. And so
Speaker 6: he and I have have a shared experience, a shared bond.
Speaker 1: That way.
Speaker 6: I leaned heavily into him the last two seasons. We
Speaker 6: had Johnny Morton who's now in Detroit as a coordinator
Speaker 6: the first year that I was calling it, and Tanner
Speaker 6: was the tight ends coach, and we ended up moving
Speaker 6: him to passing game coordinator, effectively taking over for Johnny
Speaker 6: mo And and he is completely ready for this next challenge.
Speaker 6: He's called plays in his past, and so I think
Speaker 6: each and every game when I was calling it, he
Speaker 6: was doing the same thing in his own head.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 4: So what's it like taking on those responsibilities for the
Speaker 4: first time as far as like in a game that
Speaker 4: you're gonna be the guy weekend, week out.
Speaker 6: Yeah, No, I think he's very similar to ag. He's
Speaker 6: an excellent communicator. He'll do a great job in front
Speaker 6: of the room with the players. I think where he
Speaker 6: where Tanner's really going to excel is he's been able
Speaker 6: to to really thrive in these game management spots. So
Speaker 6: he understands the situation.
Speaker 1: In the game.
Speaker 6: Uh, what do we need yardage wise to get into
Speaker 6: fueld position? Uh, whether it's a field goal or an
Speaker 6: attempt to score a touchdown. And so he's he's very
Speaker 6: advanced in that area and so quick thinker. And like
Speaker 6: I said, he was huge, huge impact on our process
Speaker 6: over the last couple of years.
Speaker 4: How about Steve Hyden as well, he was here, he
Speaker 4: was your tight ends coach.
Speaker 1: Yeah, he's taking so happy for it.
Speaker 6: I saw him at I think it was a Texas
Speaker 6: pro dage just just last week, and uh, I know
Speaker 6: he's doing really, really well. He was excited about the
Speaker 6: opportunity he he coached those tight ends at a high level.
Speaker 6: Sam Laporta really took off under his tutelage, and and
Speaker 6: I knew he always wanted to get back in the
Speaker 6: old line room and it worked out really well there
Speaker 6: in New.
Speaker 1: York for you.
Speaker 4: Yeah, evolution of the offense there in Detroit. How much
Speaker 4: can those guys take that with as they start they
Speaker 4: embark on this journey with the Jets.
Speaker 1: Because one thing that Aaron continues to stress is.
Speaker 4: That, hey, listen, we're gonna have players, and now we're
Speaker 4: going to match our scheme to our personnel.
Speaker 6: Yeah, absolutely, And that was always our philosophy there in Detroit,
Speaker 6: and so you probably don't know exactly what it's going
Speaker 6: to look like until you hit the grass here this springtime,
Speaker 6: and even then, whatever you see the springtime is going
Speaker 6: to morph and evolve in training camp and going into
Speaker 6: the season as well. So I think Tanner understands there's
Speaker 6: a progression in terms of how it needs to be installed.
Speaker 6: The foundation is going to be put in place here
Speaker 6: this spring and be able to go whatever direction is necessary.
Speaker 6: Particularly with a different style of quarterback in New York
Speaker 6: now than what we had in Detroit. That's gonna be
Speaker 6: fun for me to watch from afar how he's able
Speaker 6: to tackle that, because that's a similar challenge to what
Speaker 6: I have in Chicago as well.
Speaker 1: With it's a different style of.
Speaker 6: Quarterbacks, so a lot of different ways that offense that
Speaker 6: we had in Detroit can evolve.
Speaker 1: Thanks so much for stupping really
Speaker 6: Thank you, Yeah, appreciate it.