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Speaker 1: Hold release, repeating internally to yourself as you connect to

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Speaker 1: I'm Debbie Brown and this is the Deeply Well Podcast.

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Speaker 1: Welcome to Deeply Well, a soft place to land on

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Speaker 1: your journey. A podcast for those that are curious, creative,

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Speaker 1: This is where we heal, this is where we transcend.

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Speaker 1: Welcome back, y'all. Thank you for being here. Of course,

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Speaker 1: I'm your host, Debbie Brown. This is the Deeply Well Podcast,

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Speaker 1: and I am always deeply grateful that you are allowing

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Speaker 3: Know, absolutely, and we're all those of us who are

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Speaker 1: or just be and I get it right, Like people

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Speaker 1: are tired, but I don't believe that. I don't believe

436
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Speaker 1: that at all. I don't believe any of us should

437
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Speaker 1: be settling for our basic selves. Absolutely, Ever, I don't

438
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Speaker 1: think we have to always be working so hard and striving.

439
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Speaker 1: I think we can take rest, you know. I think

440
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Speaker 1: we can seek support for the things we can't hold.

441
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Speaker 1: But absolutely we should be always moving towards a higher choice,

442
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Speaker 1: the best choice for the moment. We know the difference,

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Speaker 1: you know, there's no need. I feel like everyone goes out,

444
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Speaker 1: there's so many things so hard in their lives. I'm

445
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Speaker 1: going hard, going out, I'm going to get this goal.

446
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Speaker 1: But then when it comes to like showing up as

447
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Speaker 1: like a regulated, solid, integral person, It's like, no, I'll

448
00:34:11,440 --> 00:34:17,880
Speaker 1: do okay. Integrity is the choice every time. But in

449
00:34:17,920 --> 00:34:20,120
Speaker 1: your work, you know, and in your book, I think

450
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Speaker 1: you're really building the bridge between understanding the power and

451
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Speaker 1: the potency of seeking higher consciousness, but also why it

452
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Speaker 1: is essential if you're called to lead. Can you speak

453
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Speaker 1: to that? Can you speak to the role of leadership

454
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Speaker 1: in our lives and also leadership within community?

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Speaker 3: When you said that we can't settle with being a

456
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Speaker 3: basic level of ourselves, of being just okay, or I'm

457
00:34:52,520 --> 00:34:57,839
Speaker 3: taking a day off from being my highest self. Leadership

458
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Speaker 3: in community, we can't be exempt. It requires. Leadership requires

459
00:35:06,600 --> 00:35:15,120
Speaker 3: us to commit to the work, to integrity, yeah, to

460
00:35:15,280 --> 00:35:21,560
Speaker 3: deep reflection of our own choices, to examine our desires,

461
00:35:23,080 --> 00:35:26,960
Speaker 3: to examine the things that we long for and why

462
00:35:27,040 --> 00:35:34,520
Speaker 3: we long for them, to examine how we respond to

463
00:35:34,760 --> 00:35:41,719
Speaker 3: people in situations, and to always anchor ourselves God and

464
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Speaker 3: my performing and being who you have me. Be what

465
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Speaker 3: I pray for, Devin, Especially when I'm approached with a

466
00:35:50,440 --> 00:35:57,680
Speaker 3: very hard decision that feels personal, my prayer is always God,

467
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Speaker 3: put my human self here and let my higher self

468
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Speaker 3: be here. Because it is truly an honor of a

469
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Speaker 3: lifetime to have gotten the call and the trust from

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Speaker 3: God to be a leader. I'll hold it with such

471
00:36:16,840 --> 00:36:25,600
Speaker 3: sacred hands, and I can only wonder how our community

472
00:36:25,640 --> 00:36:31,480
Speaker 3: will transform, how our businesses will transform, how our organizations

473
00:36:31,520 --> 00:36:36,439
Speaker 3: will transform. If we see it as an appointment from

474
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Speaker 3: God and not an appointment from person, the way that

475
00:36:45,040 --> 00:36:51,239
Speaker 3: we show up would be different. And leadership does not

476
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Speaker 3: come without a level of sacrifice. To not be okay

477
00:36:56,920 --> 00:37:02,120
Speaker 3: with just being okay, because because the work that it

478
00:37:02,360 --> 00:37:07,160
Speaker 3: requires to operate in a high level of integrity and

479
00:37:07,280 --> 00:37:12,719
Speaker 3: striving to be equitable, striving to be fair. It is

480
00:37:12,800 --> 00:37:20,400
Speaker 3: easy to not and as leaders, we simply can't choose that.

481
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Speaker 3: So when I'm working with entrepreneurs and I'm listening to

482
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Speaker 3: them and they're frustrations, I always can come to the

483
00:37:30,320 --> 00:37:33,840
Speaker 3: agreement that I likely have been here as well. But

484
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Speaker 3: what I share is the other side when you choose

485
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Speaker 3: something differently. While entrepreneurship pulls something, Oh, it pulls and

486
00:37:43,600 --> 00:37:47,080
Speaker 3: pulls at you. You can have a good day and

487
00:37:47,120 --> 00:37:54,400
Speaker 3: a bad day and one email threat. Listen, yes, and

488
00:37:54,520 --> 00:38:00,120
Speaker 3: one truly one email threat. But how I react the

489
00:38:00,160 --> 00:38:05,080
Speaker 3: hard moments now is reflection how much I loved myself. Yeah,

490
00:38:05,160 --> 00:38:08,040
Speaker 3: that's so good, and how much I love the work

491
00:38:08,040 --> 00:38:12,520
Speaker 3: that I've been privileged to lead. And I want fellow

492
00:38:12,600 --> 00:38:15,840
Speaker 3: leaders to know that it is a privilege to be trusted.

493
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Speaker 3: I want fellow leaders to know, Wow, what a not

494
00:38:21,680 --> 00:38:26,000
Speaker 3: by God to be chosen for such a time as this. Yeah,

495
00:38:26,239 --> 00:38:29,720
Speaker 3: because it was predestined that we share this space together.

496
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Speaker 3: It was predestined that all the people that we know,

497
00:38:35,239 --> 00:38:38,760
Speaker 3: all the people that we don't know, it was destined

498
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Speaker 3: for us to share this time and space, this planet,

499
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Speaker 3: the city, the state, this country together and it was

500
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Speaker 3: not by accident. It was by divine will that is

501
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Speaker 3: going to the higher place. So while things exist around us,

502
00:38:55,960 --> 00:39:01,480
Speaker 3: it's different when you know that you're chosen. My piece

503
00:39:01,600 --> 00:39:06,480
Speaker 3: comes from knowing that I was chosen. And people who

504
00:39:06,480 --> 00:39:10,200
Speaker 3: are chosen are people who are capable, and so when

505
00:39:10,200 --> 00:39:16,720
Speaker 3: we feel incapable, you have to whisper those words to yourself. Yeah,

506
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Speaker 3: I was chosen, I was chosen. I was chosen, chosen,

507
00:39:20,440 --> 00:39:24,560
Speaker 3: I was chosen. And when you said, until you find

508
00:39:24,600 --> 00:39:29,640
Speaker 3: your light being illuminated, when you find yourself breathing just

509
00:39:29,680 --> 00:39:33,200
Speaker 3: a little bit more lighter, when you find yourself walking

510
00:39:33,239 --> 00:39:38,560
Speaker 3: into rooms and nothing compels you to shrink. Yeah, but

511
00:39:38,600 --> 00:39:45,080
Speaker 3: it's how we speak and how we own the gifts

512
00:39:46,160 --> 00:39:49,359
Speaker 3: of being here right now, Why it feels that all

513
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Speaker 3: is falling apart.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, deeply, this is.

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Speaker 1: A different time. I think a lot of us who

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Speaker 1: haven't yet had those big generational experiences, right, that's what

517
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Speaker 1: we're really recognizing. Growing up, I used to think about

518
00:40:21,680 --> 00:40:25,000
Speaker 1: World War two every day in my life. Really I did,

519
00:40:25,360 --> 00:40:30,840
Speaker 1: I have been? I studied, I started studying. This is

520
00:40:30,960 --> 00:40:34,400
Speaker 1: very random peek into my brain as a child but

521
00:40:35,320 --> 00:40:39,759
Speaker 1: like around eight I started actively studying Malcolm X and

522
00:40:39,880 --> 00:40:45,000
Speaker 1: also Nazi Germany. There was something that has always had

523
00:40:45,040 --> 00:40:47,840
Speaker 1: me thinking about what did it feel like the moment

524
00:40:47,920 --> 00:40:51,000
Speaker 1: before everything changed? That has been a question that has

525
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Speaker 1: been running through my mind for thirty five plus years,

526
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Speaker 1: you know, and I think that now more than ever,

527
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Speaker 1: as you're watching the texture of the landscape of our

528
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Speaker 1: country change, as you were watching things that are the

529
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Speaker 1: antithesis of what we learned in social studies, right, what

530
00:41:14,480 --> 00:41:21,320
Speaker 1: we learned in government in high school, right, So much

531
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Speaker 1: of the way we thought life worked, it doesn't work now.

532
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Speaker 1: Every generation has faced its own moment that felt like

533
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Speaker 1: there was no way. How does life exist after this?

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Speaker 1: This crushes everything I thought being alive was. And we

535
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Speaker 1: survive and we rebuild and we create even still. And

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Speaker 1: so I'm thinking about that so much right now, And

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00:41:48,920 --> 00:41:50,880
Speaker 1: I think where I'd love to kind of go with

538
00:41:51,000 --> 00:41:54,880
Speaker 1: this is if we're all in agreeance right now in

539
00:41:54,920 --> 00:41:58,560
Speaker 1: this room and whoever's listening, that this moment in time

540
00:41:58,760 --> 00:42:04,760
Speaker 1: requires something more indifferent. It also requires that we really

541
00:42:05,000 --> 00:42:12,520
Speaker 1: study how God uses us and that we act. What

542
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Speaker 1: does the role of spiritual hygiene of well being playing

543
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Speaker 1: your life as a leader and what is the role

544
00:42:22,120 --> 00:42:25,919
Speaker 1: that it should be playing in everyone's life.

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Speaker 3: I spent time in my book around self care in

546
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Speaker 3: the world community. I know that this time that we're

547
00:42:37,000 --> 00:42:44,799
Speaker 3: in it is it requires a different desire, and so

548
00:42:44,920 --> 00:42:50,719
Speaker 3: I speak. My life is surrounded by entrepreneurs, and so

549
00:42:51,920 --> 00:42:53,759
Speaker 3: when I first meet an entrepreneur, they want to know

550
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Speaker 3: how to scale their companies. First question, first question. The

551
00:42:59,000 --> 00:43:02,440
Speaker 3: reality is they're like, Doc, I need to make money.

552
00:43:03,160 --> 00:43:05,120
Speaker 3: I have kids to take care, I have dreams, I

553
00:43:05,120 --> 00:43:09,040
Speaker 3: have things like this. Yeah, And I listen because I

554
00:43:09,160 --> 00:43:12,279
Speaker 3: understand we have to be able to take care of ourselves.

555
00:43:13,239 --> 00:43:21,400
Speaker 3: But I often follow their desires, which I understand. But

556
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Speaker 3: who will you become when you achieve the things you

557
00:43:25,719 --> 00:43:34,440
Speaker 3: so desherally achieve? Are you a responsible conduit? Will the

558
00:43:34,560 --> 00:43:41,080
Speaker 3: external things that you desire? Will you know the assignment?

559
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Speaker 3: Will you know what to do with it? Because this

560
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Speaker 3: particular time that we're in, I want people to scale.

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Speaker 3: I want to our people to make money. I want

562
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Speaker 3: us to afford the life, to have choices. But what

563
00:44:01,040 --> 00:44:03,720
Speaker 3: I desire most for us is for us to be well.

564
00:44:05,239 --> 00:44:08,279
Speaker 3: Because if we do our spiritual work, if we have

565
00:44:08,320 --> 00:44:12,879
Speaker 3: a spiritual compass, if we are in tune with our

566
00:44:13,000 --> 00:44:20,000
Speaker 3: soul and the light of God who we are. When

567
00:44:20,040 --> 00:44:25,440
Speaker 3: that success wherever it is for you, when time collides

568
00:44:25,560 --> 00:44:31,799
Speaker 3: with that moment, you will move us forward because of

569
00:44:31,840 --> 00:44:35,359
Speaker 3: your discipline, and so deb you want to be clear

570
00:44:35,400 --> 00:44:40,920
Speaker 3: with you, I ask entrepreneurs these questions, and I like that, Okay, okay, okay.

571
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Speaker 3: Can I focus on that later? Spiritual work is preventative care?

572
00:44:48,800 --> 00:44:53,319
Speaker 3: And I say, do you want to have to come

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Speaker 3: back and undo the mishandling of when time collided and

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Speaker 3: you received all the things that you wanted? Or do

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Speaker 3: you want to come to that moment prepared so you

576
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Speaker 3: do not have to go back? And what our entrepreneurs

577
00:45:07,360 --> 00:45:10,120
Speaker 3: tell me is that I want to be prepared, And

578
00:45:10,160 --> 00:45:13,280
Speaker 3: so then I ask them questions. How is your breathing,

579
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Speaker 3: how is your rest? How is your eating? What time

580
00:45:19,880 --> 00:45:24,080
Speaker 3: do you pray, meditate, or operate in stillness? How much

581
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Speaker 3: do you journal? How much time do you go and

582
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Speaker 3: allow the balls of your feet to touch the face

583
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Speaker 3: of the earth. How are you moving your body if

584
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Speaker 3: you can? How are you protecting the confines of your mind?

585
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Speaker 3: How are you staying connected to people who feel like

586
00:45:44,920 --> 00:45:53,359
Speaker 3: the sun? How much are you laughing, and I ask

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Speaker 3: those questions because to me, that is what healing and

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00:45:56,760 --> 00:46:00,919
Speaker 3: wellness is. And I tell tell them, I didn't name

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Speaker 3: that we need an infinity pool. I didn't name that

590
00:46:05,840 --> 00:46:09,160
Speaker 3: we need a trip to Bali though it was really nice.

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00:46:09,480 --> 00:46:16,040
Speaker 3: I didn't name the commodification of wellness. I name things

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Speaker 3: that you can access to at any moment. Yeah, A

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00:46:20,000 --> 00:46:23,640
Speaker 3: deep in hell, a slow exhale, we can access it

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Speaker 3: any moment, at any moment. Because to empower people, to

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Speaker 3: let them know how proximate they are to their own power.

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Speaker 4: Yeah.

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Speaker 3: And so that is what I strive to name for

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Speaker 3: entrepreneurs when it feels that the work is so far

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00:46:38,920 --> 00:46:41,480
Speaker 3: out there that I have to be this person, have

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Speaker 3: to be that person who's no, no, no, no. Can

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Speaker 3: you honor your breast? Can you sit in gratitude? Because

602
00:46:52,040 --> 00:46:57,440
Speaker 3: gratitude fills my cup. And while we have entrepreneurial programs

603
00:46:57,520 --> 00:46:59,760
Speaker 3: DAVY that runs across the country and I'm so proud

604
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Speaker 3: of it, but what I'm most proud of is that

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Speaker 3: every Friday we have something in the village called the

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Speaker 3: Well and entrepreneurs a focus on their self care and wellness.

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Speaker 3: Every Friday's requirement for all of our work to operate

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Speaker 3: in the village and all that I have built, it

609
00:47:19,000 --> 00:47:23,960
Speaker 3: is tethered to being well. So when people come to me,

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Speaker 3: I'm very clear that this is different. It will feel different,

611
00:47:30,640 --> 00:47:35,960
Speaker 3: but you will be changed because it is required of

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Speaker 3: us to change, to evolve, and in my world, to

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00:47:42,640 --> 00:47:45,920
Speaker 3: raise grant money. We work with a lot of foundations

614
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Speaker 3: and organizations. Five or six years ago, Debbie, I'm writing

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Speaker 3: grants and I'm saying it's a requirement for entrepreneurs to

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Speaker 3: participate in the will, and that I'm going to find

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Speaker 3: wellness practice mental health practitioners and I'm going to hire

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Speaker 3: them to hold the village wow. And it's a requirement

619
00:48:08,080 --> 00:48:12,279
Speaker 3: for every entrepreneur that comes in our program. I was

620
00:48:12,320 --> 00:48:16,799
Speaker 3: met with resistance then, but I held the line of

621
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Speaker 3: what I knew to be true. We don't need to

622
00:48:19,600 --> 00:48:29,080
Speaker 3: produce more individual multi millionaires who are not focused on

623
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Speaker 3: their healing and growth and nurturing their life. Yes, to

624
00:48:33,560 --> 00:48:37,319
Speaker 3: turn the pages, to turn the page on that, but

625
00:48:37,560 --> 00:48:40,040
Speaker 3: to require the page to be changed. We have to

626
00:48:40,160 --> 00:48:44,759
Speaker 3: offer people to playbooks. Yes, and that is what I

627
00:48:45,960 --> 00:48:48,040
Speaker 3: That is why the work that I do I feel

628
00:48:48,120 --> 00:48:51,440
Speaker 3: is very special. Because it looks different, it feels different.

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Speaker 3: So many entrepreneurs that we work with, but tell me

630
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Speaker 3: that I'm just so tired to tell that they are PACI,

631
00:49:01,200 --> 00:49:04,520
Speaker 3: but that they get anxiety when they or I feel

632
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Speaker 3: nervous when I get an email. What happens when you're

633
00:49:08,200 --> 00:49:10,799
Speaker 3: working with practitioners in the space, they can name what

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00:49:10,920 --> 00:49:16,759
Speaker 3: you feel. That naming for entrepreneurs in the village. I

635
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Speaker 3: can't tell you how many people who have been set

636
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Speaker 3: free because there's something to identify. Oh no, no, no,

637
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Speaker 3: this is anxiety. Yeah, oh no, no, no, this is

638
00:49:26,360 --> 00:49:31,080
Speaker 3: decision fatigue. Oh no, no, no, no, you don't your

639
00:49:31,480 --> 00:49:37,200
Speaker 3: business and you are still a creator. You're just burnt out. Yeah,

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00:49:37,239 --> 00:49:40,720
Speaker 3: and we name all of these things that that's so freeing.

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Speaker 3: It is so freek it's not personal deficiency, no, no, no,

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Speaker 3: wow wow. And so out of all the things that

643
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Speaker 3: I have built and yet to build, I am so

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Speaker 3: grateful I wanted to do it differently and that I

645
00:50:03,520 --> 00:50:08,680
Speaker 3: was unafraid to do it differently. We deserve different in

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00:50:08,719 --> 00:50:09,480
Speaker 3: our community.

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Speaker 1: Yes, yes, yes, yes, so funny. I was looking at

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Speaker 1: this old tweet I had put up, I had archived

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Speaker 1: a post, and I was really sitting in that thought.

650
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Speaker 1: I found it last night, and it was something I

651
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Speaker 1: had written saying like where I was saying do everything differently, Yes,

652
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Speaker 1: like do it all differently and do it well, Like

653
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Speaker 1: that is our opportunity, you know, in a way that

654
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Speaker 1: really has never existed before, and like we have to

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Speaker 1: choose it. What is your Tell me about your daily practice?

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Speaker 3: It changes as I change. Well, what is consistent. I

657
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Speaker 3: have to go on my walks. It is something that

658
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Speaker 3: I look forward to. I'm a nature girl, so to

659
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Speaker 3: be outside it does everything for me. There is not

660
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Speaker 3: a day that goes by and it does not matter

661
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Speaker 3: whatever stress that I may hold. There's not a day

662
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Speaker 3: that goes by that I do not pray and express

663
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Speaker 3: thanks for this life. That practice, the practice of drinking

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Speaker 3: my water, the practice of protecting my mind, and what

665
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Speaker 3: that looks like and how that materializes for me. I

666
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Speaker 3: will post something and then I'm off. It's rare that

667
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Speaker 3: I really know what is happening in the world, but

668
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Speaker 3: it is intentionally. So say that, Say that because.

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Speaker 1: It's a beautiful piece of life.

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Speaker 3: Yes I can't I go in, but I come back out. Yeah,

671
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Speaker 3: because I have to protect my psyche. There's no way

672
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Speaker 3: that I can have an imagination if it's flooded, and

673
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Speaker 3: everybody else thoughts, Yes, our imagination is how we build. Yes,

674
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Speaker 3: the imagination is a channel, so I protect that. I

675
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Speaker 3: protect it every day. And I'm also very mindful with

676
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Speaker 3: the relationships that I in the conversations that I partake in.

677
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Speaker 3: And because of that and the way that I've designed

678
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Speaker 3: my life, there's not a lot of negative incoming that

679
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Speaker 3: meets me because I've worked so hard and have built

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Speaker 3: my life in such a way that FoST black. I'm

681
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Speaker 3: not even going to tell Keith that yep, because they

682
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Speaker 3: already know and so are. These are my daily practices

683
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Speaker 3: that I've incorporated. My best relationship that I have in

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Speaker 3: life is my relationship with God. And it's been that

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Speaker 3: way since I was a little girl. Yes, I will

686
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Speaker 3: wake up early, and I still in my early early riser.

687
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Speaker 3: But when I was a little girl, I will wake

688
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Speaker 3: up and I would look out of the window and

689
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Speaker 3: I see the clouds moving, and I was always looking

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Speaker 3: for God and as a little kid, and I think

691
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Speaker 3: that is just like the cutest, sweetest thing. But that

692
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Speaker 3: relationship in that channel has always been there for me.

693
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Speaker 3: That has assisted me so much in the woman that

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Speaker 3: I have become and the woman that I'm continuing to

695
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Speaker 3: evolve into, and what I share to all who are listening.

696
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Speaker 3: There is no right path to wellness. There is no

697
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Speaker 3: playbook to wellness because what works for Dabby works for Davy,

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Speaker 3: what works for Key works for Key.

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Speaker 1: But we have to choose.

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Speaker 3: We must choose consistently things that feel like peace. Yes,

701
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Speaker 3: because the world is so loud this moment that we're in.

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Speaker 3: Many of us have never experienced anything like this. But

703
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Speaker 3: as we do the work while so much is moving,

704
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Speaker 3: we can steal our spirits and souls at any moment

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Speaker 3: that we need to. That is why we must do

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Speaker 3: our work. Yes, But I want to encourage encourage everyone

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Speaker 3: because I know I always just go back from this

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Speaker 3: place of empathy when we listen to people and they

709
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Speaker 3: feel that they sound like they have it all together.

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Speaker 3: Wherever you may be right now, it's okay. So if

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Speaker 3: all that you can muster right now is regulating your breathing,

712
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Speaker 3: If all that you can muster right now is affirming

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Speaker 3: the way that your meeting will go before you go

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Speaker 3: on the zoom, do it. And as peace comes to

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Speaker 3: you as something else, yeah, yeah, And as we keep

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Speaker 3: adding and we keep shredding, and peace feels luminous. We

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Speaker 3: can feel the presence of why we're really here, and

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Speaker 3: we feel less alone, less afraid, less disempowered.

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Speaker 1: Deeply wow. I think part of the process of when

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Speaker 1: we develop our practice, for some, when that piece of

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Speaker 1: the puzzle feels like it's missing in your life, really

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Speaker 1: investigate what it is that triggers you about caring for yourself.

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Speaker 1: That's good because that's a really important wound to heal,

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Speaker 1: to have sustainable, consistent personal well being. You know, and

725
00:56:01,920 --> 00:56:05,799
Speaker 1: so often depending on if needs weren't met at other

726
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Speaker 1: points in your life where you've always had to meet

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Speaker 1: your own needs, it can feel so daunting, but it

728
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Speaker 1: does get to a point where it actually feels creatively fun,

729
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Speaker 1: where you're looking for new ways to fill yourself and

730
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Speaker 1: fuel yourself, and you develop this kind of new language

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Speaker 1: with your body, this new language with really God and nature.

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Speaker 1: But I think part of the hardship for some, and

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Speaker 1: I hope this goes to whoever needs it listening. Part

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Speaker 1: of the hardship sometimes in developing a practice is being

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Speaker 1: willing to acknowledge that you have needs and figure out

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Speaker 1: what they are, to acknowledge that you don't feel well

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Speaker 1: that there is some inner suffering happening somewhere in your

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Speaker 1: mind or in your heart, or and your body or

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Speaker 1: in your gut. But the noticing of those things in

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Speaker 1: and of itself is a practice and well being. The

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Speaker 1: witnessing of yourself and how your body is interacting with

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Speaker 1: all your facets like that is such an important pillar

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Speaker 1: in well being. So just even scanning yourself gently, what

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Speaker 1: are my needs if I allow myself to have any

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Speaker 1: you know, where in my body do I need to

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Speaker 1: give myself my own attention? Or sometimes it's what feels

747
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Speaker 1: like it's short circuiting. Is my intuition not so sharp?

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Speaker 1: Is my compassion being impacted? Am I not naturally feeling

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Speaker 1: compassionate right now? Am I feeling reactive? Like witness see yourself,

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Speaker 1: see what's needed and where it's needed. I really related

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Speaker 1: so much to what you shared about being a little

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Speaker 1: girl with God. That was so special. I feel like

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Speaker 1: so often in my life I'm an only child raised

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Speaker 1: by a single parent, so very kind of isolated young life,

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Speaker 1: and I used to kind of do the same in

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Speaker 1: my way. I used to always like lean back somewhere

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Speaker 1: or lay down and look up with my eyes closed

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Speaker 1: and watch like the orange in my lids. And I

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Speaker 1: used to be like, it's you and me, God, It's

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Speaker 1: you and me. And I still like every time I'm

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Speaker 1: with the son, I'm just like, it's you and me God.

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Speaker 1: And I didn't have the experience of growing up in

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Speaker 1: the church, not where I grew up, but I was

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Speaker 1: always longing for God and I always knew that there

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Speaker 1: was a special language between us, that there was this

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Speaker 1: open channel to getting direct guidance that I couldn't find

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Speaker 1: other places, like being actively like parented by the Lord,

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Speaker 1: you know. And it's like, oh, this way go that

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Speaker 1: we do this, and it's just always served me and

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Speaker 1: I'm so grateful for it. And I think that channel

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Speaker 1: that we have spoken to when you do your work

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Speaker 1: and then when you tend to yourself over time, that's

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Speaker 1: actually what you're looking to always preserve and to sharpen

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Speaker 1: and to refine and to nourish. It's that pathway and

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Speaker 1: from that everything else comes.

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Speaker 3: I totally agree. You know what I desire for us.

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Speaker 3: I long for us to feel the way that we

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Speaker 3: were meant to feel.

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Speaker 1: Oh my God, please say more to that.

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Speaker 3: I have friends who are medical doctors, and they often

781
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Speaker 3: have shared stories of a person who's been sick for

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Speaker 3: a long time and they gotten so accustomed to me

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Speaker 3: and sick that they they just felt that that is

784
00:59:48,280 --> 00:59:51,240
Speaker 3: the way that their body was designed. So if there

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Speaker 3: is knee pain, they're just getting used to the knee pain.

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Speaker 3: It's like all my knee hurts, and then they experience

787
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Speaker 3: as their healing, this is what it feels like to

788
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Speaker 3: not have this pain. My friends who have gotten laces,

789
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Speaker 3: good friend of mine, and I remember when she got

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Speaker 3: it for the first time.

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Speaker 1: She's like I have.

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Speaker 3: So I had no idea how much I couldn't see

793
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Speaker 3: or what I was missing the attention to details of color.

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Speaker 3: I had no idea. I imagine from a spiritual place,

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Speaker 3: from the internal work space, that when we do the

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Speaker 3: work of healing, it is similar that we operate in

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Speaker 3: this body and we've done the work, It's like whoa, Yeah,

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Speaker 3: who knew that I was missing out on this feeling?

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Speaker 3: That is what I desire for us. I'm not one

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Speaker 3: who believes that we were created to suffer. I am

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Speaker 3: one who understands that suffering happens. Yeah, yeah, I am

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Speaker 3: one to believe that we were created to experience joy

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Speaker 3: joy that is not fleeting joy that comforts us when

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Speaker 3: we're suffering. I long for our community to just choose

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Speaker 3: to do our work so that we can operate in

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Speaker 3: our higher selves, but so that we can also experience

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Speaker 3: and be felt that we're loved every single day.

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Speaker 4: Yeah.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, our wiring will change. I wrote about in the

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Speaker 3: book that when you do the work, it modified is

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Speaker 3: how you are in relationships Listen, and so that's business,

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Speaker 3: that's family, that's romantic. It doesn't matter. When you do

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Speaker 3: the work, your relationships change because you are changed and

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Speaker 3: what you desire changes. And so I think you know

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Speaker 3: what I'm naming is that I pray for our collective

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Speaker 3: spiritual awakening. We deserve to experience that. Yeah, and I

817
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Speaker 3: know that whatever we may be faced with, we will

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Speaker 3: survive it if we do our work. But only in

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Speaker 3: our collective spiritual awakening that requires every individual person to

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Speaker 3: do their work. Can we act as a body. But

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Speaker 3: until we get to that place, the left arm would

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Speaker 3: be the left arm, the right arm would be the

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Speaker 3: right arm, and then the body is somewhere else when

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Speaker 3: we're trying to put things together. But the work is

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Speaker 3: for us to individually do our work. So collectively the

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Speaker 3: body can operate as one body. That the left arm

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Speaker 3: is attached and the right arm is attaching, where one

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Speaker 3: body in movement and inflow. That is the prayer. That

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Speaker 3: is the prayer, that is the prayer.

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Speaker 1: Before we end every episode, I like to invite each

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Speaker 1: guest to provide what we call on this show soul work.

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Speaker 1: It is the homework of the episode, the way to

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Speaker 1: integrate and reflect on and let's settle everything that moved

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Speaker 1: through the episode. So whatever that feels like for you.

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Speaker 1: It could be a practice, it could be a quote,

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Speaker 1: but I would love for you to share some soul work.

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Speaker 3: Was coming top of heart right now. I encourage all

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Speaker 3: who may hear and all who may share. I encourage

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Speaker 3: us to get back to studying, into reading, into spending

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Speaker 3: time with text. I encourage us, whatever you may believe,

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Speaker 3: that you find your sacred space to pray, wherever you

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01:04:33,640 --> 01:04:39,600
Speaker 3: may exist on this planet, that you find some time

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Speaker 3: for yourself, and that every single day that you speak

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Speaker 3: life into yourself, and that we are present. We are

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Speaker 3: present every single day to know that this experience, this

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Speaker 3: human experience, we're having, even if life may be extremely hard.

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Speaker 3: Right now, you're chosen to be here. So if you

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Speaker 3: feel that you are never chosen, that you're overlooked, it

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01:05:12,560 --> 01:05:17,040
Speaker 3: is someone else who always gets the call, someone always

850
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Speaker 3: gets the contract, someone else always gets the booked to speak.

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Speaker 3: You are already chosen because you are here. That is beautiful,

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Speaker 3: Doctor Key. Thank you so much for joining us. This

853
01:05:36,880 --> 01:05:43,240
Speaker 3: has been such a special episode and just it's a tasty,

854
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Speaker 3: more soul everybody like. There is a lot to savor

855
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Speaker 3: in this conversation. Your book, No One is self Made,

856
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Speaker 3: build your village to flourish, and business and life is

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Speaker 3: available absolutely everywhere. Now, how can everyone connect with you? Yes,

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Speaker 3: connect with me on social at doctor Key Hallman on

859
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Speaker 3: almost all platforms except for LinkedIn. LinkedIn is LOOKI Shaw Hallman.

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Speaker 3: But come spend some time with me. Beautiful. Thank you

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Speaker 3: so much, Thank you, Devin, thank you, Thank you so

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Speaker 3: much for this opportunity, but also all the opportunities that

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Speaker 3: you provide to our community, and thank you for answering

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