WEBVTT - Hour 3 - Mike Florio, Jim Jackson 0:00:00.640 --> 0:00:03.480 You are listening to the Dan Patrick Show on Fox 0:00:03.560 --> 0:00:07.840 Sports Radio Final Hour on this Thursday. This audience has 0:00:07.880 --> 0:00:10.799 been fired up today. Come on in stay a while. 0:00:11.320 --> 0:00:13.320 Mike Florio will join us here in a moment and 0:00:13.360 --> 0:00:16.639 tell us how the La Rams are doing it. I 0:00:16.640 --> 0:00:18.480 don't know if they have the same salary cap as 0:00:18.520 --> 0:00:21.920 everybody else, but they seem to be able to get 0:00:22.040 --> 0:00:24.280 a lot of people signed for a lot of money. 0:00:24.360 --> 0:00:27.480 He'll join us coming up. Also, more on what happened 0:00:27.560 --> 0:00:31.400 last night in Boston. The Golden State Warriors end up losing, 0:00:31.880 --> 0:00:35.239 and Boston jumped out to a big lead, held off 0:00:35.360 --> 0:00:38.040 Golden State and ended up with a big win by 0:00:38.080 --> 0:00:41.000 sixteen points. Now you have one day off. They'll play 0:00:41.000 --> 0:00:44.159 on Friday. We don't know how healthy Steph Curry is 0:00:44.200 --> 0:00:46.280 going to be. Late in the game, around four minutes 0:00:46.320 --> 0:00:49.720 to go, al Horford rolled up on his ankle. Here 0:00:49.760 --> 0:00:53.159 is Steph Curry after the game last night. Let be 0:00:53.200 --> 0:00:58.200 all right because I got caught on any though. Obviously 0:00:59.680 --> 0:01:01.280 be some pain, but I'll be all right. I figure 0:01:01.280 --> 0:01:04.959 out how it feels a morrow and get ready for Friday. 0:01:05.800 --> 0:01:10.080 He was writhing in pain and people said that, you know, 0:01:10.200 --> 0:01:12.720 he was kind of screaming out that he was in 0:01:12.800 --> 0:01:15.360 a lot of pain and he's had problems with his 0:01:15.480 --> 0:01:19.760 ankles his entire NBA career and one day off before 0:01:20.120 --> 0:01:23.160 they play on Friday night. By the way, the Celtics 0:01:23.160 --> 0:01:26.839 are four point favorites according to DraftKings eight seven seven 0:01:26.920 --> 0:01:29.119 three d P show email address dp A dan Patrick 0:01:29.200 --> 0:01:32.039 dot com Twitter handle a dp show. Jim Jackson, the 0:01:32.160 --> 0:01:35.640 NBA analyst for TNT, will join us get his thoughts 0:01:35.680 --> 0:01:39.000 on what seems to be the headline. It shouldn't be, 0:01:39.200 --> 0:01:42.399 but it is, and that is Draymond Green, the artist 0:01:42.440 --> 0:01:46.880 formerly known as Draymond Green. In this finals, he's getting 0:01:46.880 --> 0:01:50.559 more attention than any other player. Feels like Draymond Green 0:01:50.640 --> 0:01:54.600 has his many fouls, his points so far, more technicals 0:01:54.640 --> 0:01:58.840 than three pointers, more turnovers than baskets. But we keep 0:01:58.880 --> 0:02:02.600 talking about Draymond Green, the way he plays, and also 0:02:02.720 --> 0:02:05.840 that he's got a podcast. He had the audacity after 0:02:05.840 --> 0:02:08.600 the loss to go back to his hotel room last night. 0:02:09.000 --> 0:02:12.240 Probably his family is there. He had his son with 0:02:12.320 --> 0:02:15.639 him at the press conference, and he did a podcast. 0:02:16.480 --> 0:02:20.680 Draymond answered the critics who say, how dare you do 0:02:20.720 --> 0:02:25.000 a podcast after a loss? Draymond's focused on podcasting and 0:02:25.120 --> 0:02:28.840 blah blah blah. Listen, y'all gonna get this podcast. Like 0:02:28.960 --> 0:02:32.960 I told y'all the beginning of his playoffs, this podcast 0:02:33.040 --> 0:02:36.760 ain't going nowhere. I'm going to leave the arena. I'm 0:02:36.800 --> 0:02:39.720 going to return to this hotel room. I'm going to 0:02:39.800 --> 0:02:41.919 return to my home when we're back in San Francisco, 0:02:42.200 --> 0:02:45.200 and I'm going to film this podcast. It would then 0:02:45.240 --> 0:02:50.359 be uploaded by Jackson. It would be edited by Jackson 0:02:50.720 --> 0:02:54.840 and uploaded by Jackson, and then you will turn this 0:02:54.919 --> 0:02:58.040 podcast on and you will listen. And that's just that 0:02:58.160 --> 0:03:02.160 you're gonna get this podcast. Baffles me. It's so funny 0:03:02.200 --> 0:03:03.799 when I when I hear people are like, oh, you 0:03:03.840 --> 0:03:06.520 shouldn't be podcast. So what should I be doing when 0:03:06.560 --> 0:03:09.000 I get to my room? You know what I would do. 0:03:09.440 --> 0:03:11.840 I'd watch game film and figure out how I can 0:03:11.840 --> 0:03:17.320 be a good basketball player. How about that. I don't 0:03:17.320 --> 0:03:20.119 care if you do a podcast. How about you analyze 0:03:20.120 --> 0:03:22.000 what you're doing and not doing because you're not helping 0:03:22.040 --> 0:03:28.760 your team. This isn't twenty fifteen. Like nobody's nobody's you know, 0:03:28.880 --> 0:03:34.880 fearful of you. They don't care. Jaylen Brown does not care. 0:03:35.840 --> 0:03:38.960 He'll beat you off the dribble. So that's what I 0:03:38.960 --> 0:03:41.160 would be doing. If I'm Draymond Green, how about you 0:03:41.400 --> 0:03:45.200 think about playing better basketball. And if you're Steve Kerr, 0:03:45.520 --> 0:03:48.480 you got to grab a hold of this. Phil Jackson 0:03:48.520 --> 0:03:51.720 was aware of Dennis Rodman, and I know people keep saying, 0:03:51.720 --> 0:03:54.680 why do you keep bringing up Dennis Rodman. Well, Dennis 0:03:54.760 --> 0:03:58.000 Rodman knew who he was on the court, he knew 0:03:58.000 --> 0:04:01.040 who he was off the court, and he didn't mix 0:04:01.080 --> 0:04:03.200 the two. For the most part. He went on the 0:04:03.240 --> 0:04:05.160 court and he would be an agitator, but he was 0:04:05.240 --> 0:04:10.720 still a contributing player to championship teams. Draymond Green was 0:04:10.760 --> 0:04:15.720 playing another game last night. It wasn't basketball. And you 0:04:15.760 --> 0:04:20.440 know sometimes players it's like Mike Tyson once said, you know, 0:04:20.880 --> 0:04:23.040 everybody kind of jokes around to you get punched in 0:04:23.080 --> 0:04:25.800 the face. You get punched in the face. Now all 0:04:25.839 --> 0:04:29.279 of a sudden, we're in a fight. Draymond Green is 0:04:29.440 --> 0:04:32.200 mud wrestling out there like kids, Like, what are you doing? 0:04:32.920 --> 0:04:36.200 Do something because you're not guarding anybody, you're not shutting 0:04:36.200 --> 0:04:40.080 anybody down, you're not coming up with a cis. You 0:04:40.160 --> 0:04:43.640 got more turnovers than baskets as many fouls, his points, 0:04:43.680 --> 0:04:49.120 more technicals than threes. So what are you doing? A podcast? 0:04:50.520 --> 0:04:54.120 All right? I know I keep ranting on this. I 0:04:54.160 --> 0:04:56.440 think I'm ranting on this because of all the people 0:04:56.440 --> 0:04:59.760 who are ranting on this, because Draymond Green shouldn't be 0:04:59.760 --> 0:05:02.520 the local point. The Celtics did what you want a 0:05:02.600 --> 0:05:05.960 good team, great team, championship team to do. Held the 0:05:06.000 --> 0:05:09.080 Warriors to eleven points in the fourth quarter. Jaylen Brown 0:05:09.560 --> 0:05:14.120 Jason Tatum first Celtic teammates with at least fifty three 0:05:14.160 --> 0:05:17.880 pointers in a postseason. Tatum scored twenty or more seventeen 0:05:17.920 --> 0:05:20.720 times in the postseason. Brown has scored twenty or more 0:05:20.839 --> 0:05:25.279 sixteen times. Larry Bird had seventeen of those games back 0:05:25.279 --> 0:05:29.120 in the nineteen eighty seven playoffs. Oh, Larry, Larry legend. 0:05:29.880 --> 0:05:33.640 Marcus Smart chipped in with twenty four. See that's big 0:05:34.600 --> 0:05:38.559 Brown and Tatum. I expect I get twenty four, twenty five, 0:05:38.760 --> 0:05:42.160 twenty six from Marcus Smart. I'm in business here. By 0:05:42.200 --> 0:05:44.280 the way. Stat of the Day brought to you by 0:05:44.560 --> 0:05:48.320 Panini America, the official trading cards for the Dan Patrick Show. 0:05:48.480 --> 0:05:50.599 We'll talk to Mike Florio here in a moment, you know, 0:05:50.680 --> 0:05:54.760 speaking of Panini. I don't understand this story. But a 0:05:54.839 --> 0:05:58.440 thirteen year old boy in Akron, Ohio was opening up 0:05:58.760 --> 0:06:04.640 a pack of cards and he noticed a Mac Jones 0:06:04.720 --> 0:06:07.839 New England Patriot card and he said the card was 0:06:07.880 --> 0:06:11.680 life changing. He says, as as soon as I pulled it, 0:06:11.720 --> 0:06:15.440 I couldn't breathe. It's the only one of its kind. 0:06:15.480 --> 0:06:18.680 I couldn't believe it. He sold it for one hundred 0:06:18.720 --> 0:06:24.200 thousand dollars. What mean? Yeah? He sold the card for 0:06:24.279 --> 0:06:28.600 one hundred thousand dollars. These were out of the Panini 0:06:28.680 --> 0:06:33.560 Prism football cards, and so it's it's one hundred thousand dollars. 0:06:33.640 --> 0:06:36.760 It was later sold for one hundred and fifty thousand dollars. 0:06:37.760 --> 0:06:40.640 We got these Panini Prism cards. Actually it was just 0:06:40.680 --> 0:06:43.640 sold for one hundred and seventy five thousand dollars. We 0:06:43.760 --> 0:06:46.479 have all these Panini cards. We haven't even opened up 0:06:46.520 --> 0:06:49.440 these packs. What are we doing? I thought I was 0:06:49.440 --> 0:06:51.800 sitting on my retirement. Yeah, now you guys are caught 0:06:51.880 --> 0:06:55.520 on Okay, can somebody help me understand this? Why is 0:06:55.560 --> 0:06:57.920 a Mac even if it's one of a kind Mac 0:06:58.000 --> 0:07:05.920 Jones Rookie card and it's one hundred thousand dollars? Anybody, 0:07:07.800 --> 0:07:11.760 anybody Seaton's opening up a pack of Panini trading cards? 0:07:13.720 --> 0:07:15.920 Is it one of one? There was only so when 0:07:15.920 --> 0:07:18.160 they made this card, they knew that this card was 0:07:18.160 --> 0:07:21.080 going to be worth one hundred thousand dollars. And apparently 0:07:21.080 --> 0:07:22.640 a bunch of people are already ripping this kid off 0:07:22.640 --> 0:07:25.360 because it's already worth one hundred and seventy five. I know, yeah, 0:07:25.400 --> 0:07:28.560 PAULI do we know why this is worth so much? 0:07:28.800 --> 0:07:30.440 I don't know. It's got to be like one of one, 0:07:30.520 --> 0:07:32.760 like the Golden ticket for Willie Walker. I'm looking to 0:07:32.800 --> 0:07:35.120 buy a Panini UFC Frankie Eager card? Is it is 0:07:35.160 --> 0:07:36.800 gonna buy me a boat? What's going on here? I'm 0:07:36.840 --> 0:07:40.000 not sure I got all these Panini trading card packs 0:07:40.000 --> 0:07:43.400 that we haven't opened up. What's this fireworks card worth 0:07:43.480 --> 0:07:47.920 for Randon Marino prison? Let me bring in Mike Florio, 0:07:48.040 --> 0:07:51.520 Pro Football Talk Life co host. Do you understand this 0:07:51.640 --> 0:07:54.600 Mac Jones? A trading card that's worth over a one 0:07:54.680 --> 0:07:59.200 hundred thousand dollars? Well, I guess it's valued at that 0:07:59.280 --> 0:08:01.440 amount based on the assumption he's going to turn into 0:08:01.440 --> 0:08:04.360 a great quarterback if he ends up not being as 0:08:04.400 --> 0:08:06.560 good as people think he'll be, then that price is 0:08:06.600 --> 0:08:11.360 gonna plummet. I would say, do you collect cards? I 0:08:11.520 --> 0:08:14.200 used to. I still have all of my cards back 0:08:14.280 --> 0:08:18.640 from the seventies, tops football cards, I have boxes of them. 0:08:19.320 --> 0:08:22.760 The year I really got into it was nineteen seventy six, 0:08:23.600 --> 0:08:26.559 and that was the year that the Walter Payton Rookie 0:08:26.600 --> 0:08:33.200 card came. There are in my files for some of 0:08:33.240 --> 0:08:38.280 the lesser players, eight nine or ten of them. I 0:08:38.400 --> 0:08:41.360 ended up that year with one Walter Payton Rookie card. 0:08:41.400 --> 0:08:45.959 He just kept in a special plexic gassy polio by 0:08:45.960 --> 0:08:48.839 it point out, I'll give it to my son and 0:08:48.960 --> 0:08:51.520 he'll lose it, all right. Help me understand what the 0:08:51.600 --> 0:08:56.800 Rams did and are doing. Aaron Donald's contract, Cooper Cup's contract, 0:08:57.200 --> 0:09:01.400 Jalen Ramsey got everybody has gotten paid, Matthew Stafford's gotten paid. 0:09:01.960 --> 0:09:04.440 Why are and other teams following the same blueprint that 0:09:04.520 --> 0:09:08.640 the Rams are putting down. We joked on Monday that 0:09:09.040 --> 0:09:12.960 less sneeds f them picks. T shirt says on the 0:09:12.960 --> 0:09:15.920 back f that cap, because that's what they're doing now. 0:09:15.960 --> 0:09:18.840 They're paying their best players and you can do it 0:09:18.840 --> 0:09:20.960 if you're willing to do this. Dan the great Patriots 0:09:21.000 --> 0:09:25.920 teams had starters and stars who took less so that 0:09:25.960 --> 0:09:29.000 they could have backups that they would pay more to. 0:09:29.240 --> 0:09:32.959 That they had a healthy middle class of backup talents, 0:09:33.000 --> 0:09:35.520 so when someone got injured, you plug in a guy 0:09:35.559 --> 0:09:38.040 who maybe would be a starter somewhere else, and you 0:09:38.040 --> 0:09:41.000 don't miss a beat. The Rams consciously take the risk 0:09:41.360 --> 0:09:43.439 that if one of their starters is injured, whether it's 0:09:43.440 --> 0:09:45.800 a star or just a run of the middle starting player, 0:09:46.360 --> 0:09:49.199 they're gonna have young guys. They're gonna have guys on 0:09:49.400 --> 0:09:53.240 rookie deals, guys making minimum salary that have to step 0:09:53.280 --> 0:09:56.040 in and step up. That's the risk they're taking, and 0:09:56.200 --> 0:09:59.240 so far, so far, it hasn't burned them. But when 0:09:59.240 --> 0:10:02.400 you get yourself top headed, with so many star players 0:10:02.640 --> 0:10:05.840 taking up so much of the cap, you have to 0:10:05.880 --> 0:10:12.960 rely upon young, inexperienced players who are cheap and who 0:10:13.000 --> 0:10:14.439 can come in and get it done. You got to 0:10:14.480 --> 0:10:16.480 coach them up, you got to get him ready. And 0:10:16.559 --> 0:10:21.439 that's where the Rams, I think are making their move, 0:10:22.160 --> 0:10:26.120 having great young players, players that weren't supposedly great, who 0:10:26.120 --> 0:10:28.160 can come in and play when they need them, and 0:10:28.160 --> 0:10:30.160 they've managed to keep their guys healthy so they haven't 0:10:30.160 --> 0:10:31.840 had to rely on a lot of these young players 0:10:31.840 --> 0:10:37.400 to perform. How sustainable is this until guys start getting 0:10:37.440 --> 0:10:41.200 injured and guys miss games and key players aren't available, 0:10:41.440 --> 0:10:45.280 or you get to a point where you're paying Aaron 0:10:45.280 --> 0:10:47.760 Donald sixty five million over the next two years. Let's 0:10:47.760 --> 0:10:50.240 say he starts to show where and tear this year 0:10:50.360 --> 0:10:53.040 or next year, and you're stuck. He's getting sixty five 0:10:53.080 --> 0:10:57.080 million fully guaranteed. So that's where it falls. Apart if 0:10:57.120 --> 0:10:59.240 you're star players, the guys you're playing the most money too, 0:10:59.240 --> 0:11:00.920 aren't getting it done. One thing to watch if you're 0:11:00.920 --> 0:11:04.080 our aunts fan. Damn that elbow issue with Matthew Stafford. 0:11:04.080 --> 0:11:07.880 He hasn't thrown this offseason. He had an anti inflammatory 0:11:08.000 --> 0:11:10.480 shot in his elbow. His elbow is a fairly important 0:11:10.480 --> 0:11:12.760 piece of the apparatus. It allows him to throw the football. 0:11:13.120 --> 0:11:15.280 They're hopefully he can throw by training camp. But even 0:11:15.280 --> 0:11:17.520 if he can, does it hold up through the grind 0:11:17.559 --> 0:11:20.679 of training camp and the season off? It'll play much 0:11:20.720 --> 0:11:23.439 seventeen game regular season playoffs and what's going on in 0:11:23.559 --> 0:11:26.000 that elbow? And John Wolford is the backup because you 0:11:26.000 --> 0:11:27.800 can't afford to have a ten million dollar a year 0:11:27.840 --> 0:11:32.239 backup when you're relying upon this top heavy roster of superstars. 0:11:32.280 --> 0:11:35.199 So if Stafford for some reason can't go this year, 0:11:35.200 --> 0:11:37.120 at some point they got to rely on Wolford. That's 0:11:37.120 --> 0:11:41.480 maybe when it all starts to fall apart. Anything changed 0:11:41.480 --> 0:11:44.920 with Deshaun Watson situation based off the New York Times 0:11:45.200 --> 0:11:50.599 extensive article by Jenny Frentis, well, I think you know 0:11:50.640 --> 0:11:52.960 the one big changes. It just feels like the court 0:11:52.960 --> 0:11:56.600 of public opinion is lost for Deshaun Watson and never 0:11:56.640 --> 0:12:01.760 will be retrieved. But yesterday's big development, one day after 0:12:02.440 --> 0:12:06.440 Jenny Brentz's story mentioned what the Texans did, what the 0:12:06.480 --> 0:12:09.680 Texans knew, what maybe they should have known? Here comes 0:12:09.720 --> 0:12:12.520 Tony Buzzby represents the twenty four women who have sued 0:12:12.559 --> 0:12:16.240 Watson with a statement saying, I'm bringing the Texans to 0:12:16.280 --> 0:12:19.280 the party now too. Now, if that statement is made 0:12:19.280 --> 0:12:21.320 before the New York Times article, it has a different 0:12:21.360 --> 0:12:24.240 feel on the heels of the New York Times article 0:12:24.280 --> 0:12:27.160 when she introduces When Jenny introduces the idea of the 0:12:27.160 --> 0:12:31.400 Texans potential responsibility, it doesn't feel like ambulance chasing. When 0:12:31.440 --> 0:12:34.840 Tony Buzzby issues a statement, it feels valid because it's 0:12:34.880 --> 0:12:38.360 been given credibility by the New York Times. It was 0:12:38.440 --> 0:12:42.240 brilliant by Buzzby to issue the statement when he did. 0:12:42.440 --> 0:12:45.280 And now Dan is these cases go forward, you know, 0:12:45.280 --> 0:12:47.360 the front line defense by the Texans I think will 0:12:47.360 --> 0:12:51.199 be We're not responsible for Shaun Watson's criminal conduct. So 0:12:51.240 --> 0:12:54.800 it puts the Texans in a position where they may 0:12:54.880 --> 0:13:00.920 be joining Buzzby in piling on Watson saying we're not 0:13:01.080 --> 0:13:04.760 responsible for his crimes. Those are his crimes. We've got 0:13:05.000 --> 0:13:09.360 no duty to the victims of his crimes. That's on him. 0:13:09.600 --> 0:13:11.959 That's a way it could go here, and that may 0:13:12.000 --> 0:13:14.360 make things even worse for Deshaun Watson. I'll leave you 0:13:14.400 --> 0:13:18.120 with this. Will there be fallout with the commander's defensive coordinator, 0:13:18.200 --> 0:13:21.400 Jack del Rio's comments? Well, look, Dan, I wrote about 0:13:21.440 --> 0:13:24.920 this earlier today. The question now becomes, when training camp convenes, 0:13:24.960 --> 0:13:27.440 will del Rio still be the defensive coordinator? He's not 0:13:27.520 --> 0:13:30.960 Bill Belichick. I'll due respect as a defensive coordinator, Ron 0:13:31.040 --> 0:13:33.880 Rivera as a defensive head coach. The commanders have to 0:13:33.920 --> 0:13:36.760 ask themselves, is it worth it to us to continue 0:13:36.760 --> 0:13:40.040 with a guy who has created this issue stepped on 0:13:40.120 --> 0:13:43.720 this Rick called the insurrection from January sixth a dust up, 0:13:43.880 --> 0:13:47.480 and presumably apologized at the direct behest of team management. 0:13:47.640 --> 0:13:49.120 I think it remains to be seen, and I know 0:13:49.160 --> 0:13:52.560 the people out there will cry cancel culture. That's the 0:13:52.600 --> 0:13:55.080 buzzword of those who want to have no responsibility at 0:13:55.120 --> 0:13:58.120 all for anything they say or do. It's fair to 0:13:58.160 --> 0:14:01.400 wonder whether it's in the best interest the Commanders. Players 0:14:01.400 --> 0:14:03.200 get fired all the time because it's in the best 0:14:03.200 --> 0:14:05.080 interest of the team. Is it in the best interest 0:14:05.160 --> 0:14:07.800 of the Commanders to go forward with a guy who 0:14:07.920 --> 0:14:13.240 created such a pointless and avoidable distraction. But didn't you 0:14:13.240 --> 0:14:15.720 have a politician who said this is the final nail 0:14:15.800 --> 0:14:18.800 in the coffin according to the article you had, Yeah, 0:14:18.880 --> 0:14:21.280 as it relates to getting free money from Virginia for 0:14:21.320 --> 0:14:23.720 a new stadium, so to the extent that that gets 0:14:23.720 --> 0:14:26.560 them back in line for taxpayer money. And I don't 0:14:26.600 --> 0:14:28.720 think any of these owners should be getting taxpayer money. 0:14:28.720 --> 0:14:31.080 They can afford their own damn stadiums. But if they 0:14:31.080 --> 0:14:32.920 think it gets them back in line for some free 0:14:32.960 --> 0:14:35.240 money for a new stadium, I don't think they hesitate 0:14:35.320 --> 0:14:37.400 to move on from Jack Delrium. So I think once 0:14:37.440 --> 0:14:39.760 the offseason program ends. They got a decision to make 0:14:40.000 --> 0:14:41.800 about whether or not to keep del Rio around, and 0:14:41.840 --> 0:14:43.960 it won't surprise me if they change him. And you know, 0:14:44.000 --> 0:14:46.720 I was very vocal in defending Jack del Rio when 0:14:46.760 --> 0:14:49.840 the Raiders secretly lined up John Gruden to replace him 0:14:49.840 --> 0:14:51.280 while he was still on the job. I think that 0:14:51.360 --> 0:14:53.920 was wrong by the Raiders and by Gruden to do that. 0:14:54.320 --> 0:14:56.600 But this time around, it's his own fault if he 0:14:56.680 --> 0:14:59.400 ends up out of the job. Good stuff, buddy. 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He said, 0:16:54.400 --> 0:16:56.520 you were talking about the RAMS and talking about the 0:16:56.600 --> 0:16:59.400 RAMS salary cap and how they're able to navigate the 0:16:59.400 --> 0:17:02.120 salary cap. He goes, keep in mind the RAMS president 0:17:02.320 --> 0:17:06.280 is one of the smartest people in the NFL. Kevin Demoff, 0:17:06.720 --> 0:17:11.840 his father Marvin Demoff, famous agent, said his understanding of 0:17:11.880 --> 0:17:16.120 the cap is unparalleled, incredibly smart, able to evaluate players 0:17:16.640 --> 0:17:19.919 as they compared to other players in the league. Possible 0:17:20.160 --> 0:17:25.600 next commissioner question mark. So that's from a source that 0:17:25.680 --> 0:17:28.439 I have great trust in. Also, let me get to 0:17:28.520 --> 0:17:32.160 this Mac Jones rookie card that a thirteen year old 0:17:32.200 --> 0:17:35.399 in Akron, Ohio opened it up a Panini trading card 0:17:35.880 --> 0:17:38.639 and he sold it for one hundred thousand dollars and 0:17:38.640 --> 0:17:40.720 then it later sold for one hundred and seventy five 0:17:40.760 --> 0:17:44.159 thousand dollars Tony in South Carolina. Tony, what can you 0:17:44.200 --> 0:17:47.280 tell me about why this card is Mac Jones rookie 0:17:47.320 --> 0:17:51.720 card's worth one hundred and seventy five thousand dollars. Well, 0:17:51.720 --> 0:17:55.760 first of all, Dan, first time caller five eleven two ten, 0:17:56.480 --> 0:18:01.680 big fan of you guys. So what you have here 0:18:01.960 --> 0:18:05.640 is clearly a rookie card, which are the most desirable 0:18:05.800 --> 0:18:10.800 cards for any player on the market. Brady Jordan eighty six, 0:18:10.960 --> 0:18:16.000 eighty seventh clear. So Mac Jones, this card is clearly 0:18:16.880 --> 0:18:18.760 And forgive me, I was at the dentist and had 0:18:18.800 --> 0:18:22.800 a deadening shot this morning. So anyway, this card is 0:18:22.960 --> 0:18:28.119 clearly based on projections. People that are paying the price 0:18:28.560 --> 0:18:33.680 for this card right now are projecting that Mac Jones 0:18:33.760 --> 0:18:36.719 is going to have a Tom Brady type of career. 0:18:36.960 --> 0:18:39.760 Well wait, what, Tony, what is it? Joe Burrow rookie 0:18:39.800 --> 0:18:43.560 card worth or Justin Herbert rookie card or Patrick Mahomes 0:18:44.920 --> 0:18:48.600 right now between depending on the grade. And I'm guessing 0:18:48.640 --> 0:18:52.120 this guy had the card graded and it probably came 0:18:52.160 --> 0:18:54.639 back at ten out of ten. So there's so many 0:18:54.840 --> 0:19:00.560 variables that come into deciding the ultimate price of the card, 0:19:01.040 --> 0:19:05.960 but specifically Mac Jones right now, I'll tell you now, 0:19:06.080 --> 0:19:08.720 Joe Burrow and those other guys you mentioned have not 0:19:08.920 --> 0:19:12.239 had a card go for that much money because of 0:19:12.280 --> 0:19:15.320 the markets that they play in, even though me, you 0:19:15.520 --> 0:19:19.040 and everyone knows that those are better quarterbacks. Right now, 0:19:19.280 --> 0:19:24.480 Pat Mahomes doesn't have a card that has sniffed that amount. Yeah, 0:19:24.520 --> 0:19:27.200 I can't. I can't figure this all right, Thank you, Tony. Tony, 0:19:27.240 --> 0:19:29.800 you can be our official or unofficial card guy. Let 0:19:29.800 --> 0:19:33.199 me get to Jim Jackson, NBA on TNT. Jim, do 0:19:33.200 --> 0:19:35.679 you have all your trading cards? When you were playing? 0:19:35.800 --> 0:19:39.439 Did you collect your cards? Well, you know, it's a 0:19:39.480 --> 0:19:42.080 lot of cards that collect with different teams. How many 0:19:42.080 --> 0:19:46.880 that played by? How much do you get paid by 0:19:46.920 --> 0:19:51.520 the card companies? I mean, I'm not telling you how 0:19:51.600 --> 0:19:53.840 much I get paid. It's well, you know what it's. 0:19:54.200 --> 0:19:56.359 It's an amount. I'm with Panini, and we'll do stuff 0:19:56.400 --> 0:20:02.000 because they're you know, sponsored, not sponsored the NBA. So 0:20:02.760 --> 0:20:04.960 my rookie card, my second year card, some other cards. 0:20:05.000 --> 0:20:07.840 I'll do something on a yearly basis. We'll sign a 0:20:07.840 --> 0:20:11.879 bunch of cards and some individual signatures. But it's a 0:20:11.880 --> 0:20:15.679 good gig. Though a mother has a lot more than 0:20:15.720 --> 0:20:22.200 I do of you. Yeah, just you, yeah, oh yeah, 0:20:22.359 --> 0:20:29.439 any of them worth a lot of money? No, all right, 0:20:29.520 --> 0:20:33.080 at least you're honestly all right, So help me understand 0:20:33.080 --> 0:20:38.160 the Boston Celtics, do they have a style? Offensively, because 0:20:38.160 --> 0:20:41.159 I'm trying to figure it out, like what is what 0:20:41.359 --> 0:20:46.320 is their offense? It works sometimes and sometimes it doesn't well. 0:20:46.320 --> 0:20:50.199 And that's because you know, when you look at this 0:20:50.240 --> 0:20:53.760 Boston team and kind of the things that they fought 0:20:53.800 --> 0:20:58.280 over in the past of trying to establish, especially Tatum 0:20:58.320 --> 0:21:02.120 and Brown as young player in this league. When you're young, 0:21:02.200 --> 0:21:04.560 you want to savage that bravado that you can play, 0:21:04.600 --> 0:21:07.800 that you belong, that you deserve the contract, that you 0:21:07.840 --> 0:21:11.280 deserve the accolade, and sometimes that can flict with the 0:21:11.320 --> 0:21:14.119 overall offensive scheme. I think Brad Stevens had an issue 0:21:14.119 --> 0:21:16.000 with that email Judoka had an issue with that at 0:21:16.040 --> 0:21:19.639 the beginning, but it kind of started to evolve into 0:21:19.720 --> 0:21:22.440 this team Atmisphere when the ball you remember when Boston 0:21:22.520 --> 0:21:27.040 was playing before Kyrie, when the ball was hopping around 0:21:27.119 --> 0:21:31.960 and the Boston Celtics, look, this was maybe Jalen and 0:21:33.000 --> 0:21:35.480 the Jason's rookie year and I got the Easter Comment 0:21:35.520 --> 0:21:37.440 Final and even some of the second year, the ball 0:21:37.520 --> 0:21:41.000 was just moving. That's the style I think Emay wants 0:21:41.040 --> 0:21:43.119 to play a lot, coming from San Antonio, where the 0:21:43.160 --> 0:21:47.600 ball doesn't stick. The problem is trying to change that 0:21:47.640 --> 0:21:50.520 within a year. Structure I can't have everybody on the 0:21:50.560 --> 0:21:52.439 same plate. When you see Boston player like they did 0:21:52.520 --> 0:21:54.359 last time, you're like, well, why can't they do it 0:21:54.400 --> 0:21:57.040 all the time? Was a level of offensive maturity that 0:21:57.359 --> 0:21:59.920 they have to get to and if you find success 0:22:00.080 --> 0:22:03.560 and it hopefully it extends that. And that's the mantra 0:22:03.640 --> 0:22:06.399 that you play with all the time instead of fighting 0:22:06.400 --> 0:22:09.080 it so that it's a very legitimate question. And when 0:22:09.119 --> 0:22:11.520 you ask that, there was a moment I've mentioned this 0:22:11.600 --> 0:22:15.480 a couple of times in previous hours where Jalen Brown 0:22:15.600 --> 0:22:19.240 has Draymond Green on him and there's gonna be a 0:22:19.280 --> 0:22:21.600 pick set where there's going to be a switch where 0:22:21.920 --> 0:22:24.120 Jalon Brown is going to be guard by Steph Curtins, 0:22:24.160 --> 0:22:26.760 which would be a big, big advantage you would think 0:22:26.760 --> 0:22:30.520 for Jylen Brown. He waves off the pick, he doesn't 0:22:30.520 --> 0:22:35.080 need the pick. He beats Draymond off the dribble, and 0:22:35.080 --> 0:22:37.560 then another time on the wing, a couple plays down, 0:22:37.800 --> 0:22:40.639 a couple plays later, beat him off the dribble left handed. 0:22:41.440 --> 0:22:46.280 I'm not sure who Draymond thinks he is now, but 0:22:46.440 --> 0:22:49.800 the Boston Celtics aren't that concerned about him. As far 0:22:49.840 --> 0:22:53.479 as the player may be. The agitator, but not the player. 0:22:54.359 --> 0:22:57.320 You agree, But yeah, I agree with this. Draymond is 0:22:57.359 --> 0:23:00.280 best to defensively off the ball when he's helping King 0:23:00.359 --> 0:23:03.800 Chargers defensive rebounds. There was a point in time where 0:23:03.800 --> 0:23:05.840