WEBVTT - #458 Jason Flom with Jeff Boppre

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<v Speaker 1>In the early morning hours of September nineteenth, nineteen eighty eight,

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<v Speaker 1>Richard Valdez and Sharon Condon were murdered in Scott's Bluff, Nebraska.

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<v Speaker 1>Scrolled in engine grease on the floor of their home.

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<v Speaker 1>The letters JFF and BPE. Investigators sought out local man

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<v Speaker 1>Jeff Boubrey, who returned from a road trip to dispel suspicion,

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<v Speaker 1>but soon the two friends who were with him gave

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<v Speaker 1>statements to the contrary. Jeff faced a potential death sentence,

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<v Speaker 1>yet according to the first witness on scene, the message

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<v Speaker 1>in engine grease that tilted the investigation toward Jeff was

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<v Speaker 1>not there when he discovered the bodies. This is Wrongful Conviction.

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<v Speaker 1>we're going for the first time to Scott's Bluff, Nebraska,

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<v Speaker 1>where we came across a double murder scene that appears

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<v Speaker 1>to have been in part staged, possibly driven in part

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<v Speaker 1>by incestuous urges or a cocaine operation involving law enforcement

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<v Speaker 1>and calling in from a Nebraska state penitentiary. The man

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<v Speaker 1>who had the terrible misfortune of being one of the

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<v Speaker 1>last to buy some of that cocaine, Jeff Beauprix. Jeff,

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<v Speaker 1>thanks for calling.

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<v Speaker 2>In, well, thank you for what you guys are doing

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<v Speaker 2>for the innocent and.

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<v Speaker 1>Joining him to help make sense of this a crazy ordeal.

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<v Speaker 1>His attorney, Tom Freericks, Tom, thanks for joining us.

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<v Speaker 3>Absolutely my pleasure.

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<v Speaker 1>So let's do what we do and start at the

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<v Speaker 1>very beginning.

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<v Speaker 2>I was born in Mayville, North Dakota, to Clarence Baupriy

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<v Speaker 2>and Delores beaupri My parents were actually from a little

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<v Speaker 2>town about seven miles from the Canadian border called Rala,

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<v Speaker 2>North Dakota, and I got an older sister and two

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<v Speaker 2>younger brothers. We've always been a really close family. My

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<v Speaker 2>dad was an alcoholic, my mom was the peace maker

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<v Speaker 2>of everything. We did move around a lot. My dad

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<v Speaker 2>was a mechanic and was a little hot headed if

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<v Speaker 2>he was working a job and somebody pissed him off

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<v Speaker 2>and we were up and moving around. So we wind

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<v Speaker 2>up moving to Grand Forks, North Dakota, Petersburg, North Dakota

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<v Speaker 2>and then Albuquerque, New Mexico, and then we wind up

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<v Speaker 2>moving to Nebraska. So it was a lot of adjustment,

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<v Speaker 2>but I dealt with it. And then when I graduated,

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<v Speaker 2>I wind up going into a roofing business until nineteen

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<v Speaker 2>eighty four eighty five. Then I went back to college

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<v Speaker 2>and stuff for auto body and stuff. So I'm actually

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<v Speaker 2>an auto bout body technician painting cars and stuff. But

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<v Speaker 2>I was in a bad accident in nineteen eighty seven

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<v Speaker 2>where I rolled the truck working for Weathercraft Roofing, and

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<v Speaker 2>I laid in it for an hour and a half

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<v Speaker 2>before they cut me out of it. There is pictures

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<v Speaker 2>of the accident, and it's probably pretty amazing that I

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<v Speaker 2>even lived.

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<v Speaker 1>Through that, And having seen those pictures, I can attest

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<v Speaker 1>that it is an absolute miracle that he survived. And

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<v Speaker 1>during his time on the Men, Jeff came into contact

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<v Speaker 1>with a number of people involved in this case. He

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<v Speaker 1>hired an attorney named Lenn Tabor to handle his personal

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<v Speaker 1>injury and workers' compensation proceedings, and he began to dabble

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<v Speaker 1>in some drugs, which brought him into contact with some

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<v Speaker 1>other drug users, like a queen of his younger brother,

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<v Speaker 1>Alan Neeman and Kennard Waspmer, as well as one of

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<v Speaker 1>the victims in this case, a local drug dealer named

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<v Speaker 1>Richard Valdez.

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<v Speaker 2>Richard was a quiet person. He had to really get

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<v Speaker 2>to know you before you were able to go in

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<v Speaker 2>and buy drugs from him.

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<v Speaker 4>And Jeff broke through that and was able to get served.

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<v Speaker 2>But the only relationship we had was he was in

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<v Speaker 2>the business to sell drugs when I was in this

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<v Speaker 2>accident and trying to release some pain.

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<v Speaker 4>Waspmer and Nieman did not know Valdez well enough, so

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<v Speaker 4>when Wasper and Neieman wanted to get some cocaine, they

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<v Speaker 4>would enlist Jeff's help.

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<v Speaker 1>And then there was the other victim, Valdez's girlfriend, Sharon Condon,

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<v Speaker 1>who had a concerning relationship to say the least, with

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<v Speaker 1>her first cousin, a guy named John Yellowboy. Now some

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<v Speaker 1>said Yellow Boy had an unnatural attraction to Sharon. In fact,

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<v Speaker 1>there had been some high drama in the weeks leading

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<v Speaker 1>up to her death.

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<v Speaker 4>She apparently went to the hospital because she had gotten

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<v Speaker 4>hit with the butt of a gun during his dispute

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<v Speaker 4>with John. We pulled all of the criminal cases that

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<v Speaker 4>existed on Yellowboy Prior to the murder, Yellow Boy was

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<v Speaker 4>incarcerated at about fifteen for a pretty violent rape of

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<v Speaker 4>a middle aged woman that occurred, according to the police reports,

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<v Speaker 4>right in front of the woman's daughter. He left a

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<v Speaker 4>code at the scene that coat belonged to a relative.

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<v Speaker 4>It's almost like he was setting him up or something.

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<v Speaker 4>I don't know, but there are a string of just

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<v Speaker 4>incredibly strange assault of behavior. When I met John's sister

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<v Speaker 4>and this stuck with me, probably because of the age

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<v Speaker 4>I grew up in, and I asked her, just give

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<v Speaker 4>me an idea who John Yellowboy is. She paused for

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<v Speaker 4>a moment, and then she looked at me, very directly,

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<v Speaker 4>matter of factly, and said, have you ever seen the

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<v Speaker 4>movie Halloween? That's basically my brother.

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<v Speaker 1>John, and that's his sister saying that. So this is

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<v Speaker 1>the backdrop for what happened on September eighteenth into the

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<v Speaker 1>nineteenth of nineteen eighty eight, when Nieman Wassmer and another

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<v Speaker 1>man Chris Ruff had asked Jeff for help. Was Richard Valdez.

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<v Speaker 2>They asked me if I could get them some weed

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<v Speaker 2>and some coke, and this is around ten o'clock at night.

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<v Speaker 2>So I proceeded to go out to Valdeza's house by myself.

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<v Speaker 2>There was no lights or nothing on at the Valdez's residence,

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<v Speaker 2>so if you visualize, it's like on a rural road.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean it's dark, so it's kind of spooky in

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<v Speaker 2>a way. And I went up and I knocked on

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<v Speaker 2>the door. Nobody was there, so then I left, and

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<v Speaker 2>then I went to meet those guys at their trailer,

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<v Speaker 2>and then I told him, I said, hey, I think

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<v Speaker 2>I know where Valdez might be at. And I went

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<v Speaker 2>to what's called Tiptop Trailer Court, and this is where

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<v Speaker 2>John yellow Boy he asked. He came out at one

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<v Speaker 2>of the apartments and he said that Valdez he'd be

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<v Speaker 2>back in a little while.

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<v Speaker 1>Jeff eventually caught up with Richard Valdez in town and

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<v Speaker 1>bought some coke for Wasner and Nieman then traveled back

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<v Speaker 1>and forth to Valdez's place for more cocaine that evening.

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<v Speaker 1>The last time was around eleven thirty PM.

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<v Speaker 2>And then that was the last time I seen Richard Valdez.

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<v Speaker 2>And then once we were back to Kenner, Wisemuth and

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<v Speaker 2>Allen Nemans trailer at about twelve o'clock Chris Ruff. He

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<v Speaker 2>said he was leaving Kennard and Allen. They were pretty

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<v Speaker 2>high that night, and so during this time, Allen and

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<v Speaker 2>Kennard said, Hey, why don't we take a road trip.

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<v Speaker 2>Let's go to Arizona.

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<v Speaker 1>Jeff had a friend named Cassie who lived out in Arizona.

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<v Speaker 1>So the three of them got some things together and

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<v Speaker 1>got on the road. After all, cocaine is a hell

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<v Speaker 1>of a drug. But I digress here. In the following hours,

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<v Speaker 1>while these three were on the road, Sharon, Condon and

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<v Speaker 1>Richard were killed. The state's narrative was that they were

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<v Speaker 1>fatally shot around the same time inside the house, and

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<v Speaker 1>that Richard partially wrote Jeff's name on the ground in Engine,

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<v Speaker 1>Greece as a sort of dying declaration, and that's the theory.

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<v Speaker 4>I don't think that's what occurred. I don't think Richard

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<v Speaker 4>Valdez was killed inside the house. I think he was

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<v Speaker 4>brought back in the house and staged. The stab wounds

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<v Speaker 4>and the blood loss don't equal that he lost all

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<v Speaker 4>of his blood in the position where his body was found.

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<v Speaker 4>And we've now got a pathologist who says that these

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<v Speaker 4>wounds across his neck and one of the bullet shots

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<v Speaker 4>were post mortem, and two thousand and eighteen we went

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<v Speaker 4>and went through all of the evidence still at the

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<v Speaker 4>Scott's Bluff County Sheriff's department.

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<v Speaker 3>And there we found a.

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<v Speaker 4>Package that had negatives, not photographs, and a memorandum from

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<v Speaker 4>a former deputy sheriff that said these were found in

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<v Speaker 4>Alex Marino's desk in twenty twelve fourteen, I don't remember

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<v Speaker 4>the actual date.

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<v Speaker 3>And there's a picture of a knife.

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<v Speaker 4>You have no idea where that knife's at, but it

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<v Speaker 4>looks like it's in a cornfield, which this house was

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<v Speaker 4>surrounded by cornfield. A black and white photograph of a

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<v Speaker 4>knife that doesn't match any of the other crime scene photos.

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<v Speaker 3>It's just insane.

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<v Speaker 1>And that's just the beginning. And then there's Sharon's death,

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<v Speaker 1>which was overheard by the sixteen year old girl who

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<v Speaker 1>was with her at the time, a girl named Melissa Martinez.

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<v Speaker 4>According to her, she's in the back bedroom and they

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<v Speaker 4>hear people enter the house and she recognizes John Yellow

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<v Speaker 4>Boy's voice. Sharon tells her to hide, which she does

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<v Speaker 4>partially under the bed. The lights go out, she hears

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<v Speaker 4>the commotion, and then she waits and waits and eventually

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<v Speaker 4>runs out of the house, and if you look at

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<v Speaker 4>the crime scene photos, she has to flip the mattress

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<v Speaker 4>to get Sharon off of her. And if you look

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<v Speaker 4>at the crime scene photos, you can see where Sharon

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<v Speaker 4>bled out, and then you could see that her body

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<v Speaker 4>was moved and she continued to bleed. That's never explained.

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<v Speaker 1>Now, Melissa Martinez claims that she didn't hear Richard's death

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<v Speaker 1>or see his body on her way out the door,

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<v Speaker 1>which might be why this account was never included in

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<v Speaker 1>the state's narrative. It just didn't fit. But Melissa accounts

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<v Speaker 1>for the two spots where Sharon bled without having seen

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<v Speaker 1>the crime scene photographs, which certainly bolsters her credibility.

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<v Speaker 2>Right.

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<v Speaker 1>So, okay, back to her memory.

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<v Speaker 4>She runs through the same doorway where Richard Valdez's body

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<v Speaker 4>is supposedly right in the doorway. I mean she would

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<v Speaker 4>have tripped over him. She then runs to a neighbor

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<v Speaker 4>and is pounding on the door at two three in

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<v Speaker 4>the morning. The neighbors confirmed that there was somebody pounding

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<v Speaker 4>on the door that morning, and then she makes her

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<v Speaker 4>way into town. That was about three am.

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<v Speaker 1>So both the crime scene photos of Sharon and the

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<v Speaker 1>neighbor's account. Robberate Melissa's version of events, and we'll explain

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<v Speaker 1>what happens to her in a bit. So, then both

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<v Speaker 1>bodies were discovered in the house Sharon where Melissa left her,

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<v Speaker 1>and then Richard's was in the doorway.

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<v Speaker 4>There's a gentleman by the name of Eddie Johnson who

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<v Speaker 4>claims that he came there, saw the door slightly Ajar

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<v Speaker 4>pushed the door and it pushed it into Valdez. He

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<v Speaker 4>then kneeled down by the body, checked the body, realized

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<v Speaker 4>he was dead. And this is before cell phones. So

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<v Speaker 4>he then goes into Scott's Bluff and calls the police.

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<v Speaker 4>And as he's on the phone with the police, he

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<v Speaker 4>sees a cop driving by and flags him down. An

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<v Speaker 4>officer by the name of Terry Hall says, look, there's

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<v Speaker 4>a Duti's dead out here. They go to the scene,

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<v Speaker 4>Eddie stays outside. Eddie's later shown crime scene photos twenty

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<v Speaker 4>plus years later and says, that's not how the body

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<v Speaker 4>was laid out. There was no grease next to the body.

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<v Speaker 4>I would have stepped right in it. Because next to

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<v Speaker 4>Valdez's body in crime scene.

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<v Speaker 3>Photos are two words.

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<v Speaker 4>In Greece, partial words j Ff and bope. According to

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<v Speaker 4>the autopsy doctor at the time, he would have been

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<v Speaker 4>bleeding profusely where he would have bled out very quickly

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<v Speaker 4>within a matter of minutes, and that's from the state's

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<v Speaker 4>own guy. But apparently in those minutes he still would

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<v Speaker 4>have been able to grab a tube of engine grease

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<v Speaker 4>right out Jeff and then maybe write Jeff on the

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<v Speaker 4>wall and blood and then ironically put the tuber grease

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<v Speaker 4>underneath him before he died. I figured that they find

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<v Speaker 4>the two degrees. You can see it in the crime

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<v Speaker 4>scene video. They lift his body up and go, oh,

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<v Speaker 4>there's the two degrees. But there was a question at

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<v Speaker 4>that time of trial whether he would have been able

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<v Speaker 4>to do that given the wounds he had suffered. But

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<v Speaker 4>the forensic pathologists today's in no way, not a chance

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<v Speaker 4>is he doing that.

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<v Speaker 1>According to the autopsy, Jeff's injuries included eight gunshot wounds

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<v Speaker 1>and two stab wounds, one of each type happening post mortem.

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<v Speaker 1>Either way, he was losing blood at an estimated rate

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<v Speaker 1>of about a half a leader per minute, leaving only

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<v Speaker 1>one hundred and fifty seconds two and a half minutes

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<v Speaker 1>until he'd experienced significant loss of his motor skills as

0:13:39.960 --> 0:13:44.240
<v Speaker 1>blood flow concentrated around maintaining his vital organs, which is

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<v Speaker 1>why the pathologists is saying, no way to the dying declaration.

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<v Speaker 1>But if that doesn't feel definitive enough, then you have

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<v Speaker 1>the two post mortem wounds. So not only does that,

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<v Speaker 1>along with on accounted for blood at the scene, suggests

0:14:02.400 --> 0:14:06.120
<v Speaker 1>staging of the body, but also whoever inflicted these post

0:14:06.120 --> 0:14:08.760
<v Speaker 1>mortem injuries was not going to allow him to make

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<v Speaker 1>a dying declaration, let alone apparently a second.

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<v Speaker 4>One along the doorstop there is Jeff written in blood.

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<v Speaker 4>After they've surrendered the crime scene back to the family,

0:14:22.680 --> 0:14:24.760
<v Speaker 4>Valdez's family says, you got to get back out here.

0:14:24.800 --> 0:14:27.920
<v Speaker 4>It says Jeff and blood on here, And they went, oh,

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<v Speaker 4>but geez, we must have missed that.

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<v Speaker 1>So maybe whoever had killed Sharon Richard or both of

0:14:33.000 --> 0:14:35.680
<v Speaker 1>them was still lurking around after Eddie had discovered the

0:14:35.720 --> 0:14:38.720
<v Speaker 1>bodies and then wrote Jeff's name at the crime scene,

0:14:38.800 --> 0:14:41.640
<v Speaker 1>trying to send the police in Jeff's direction. So the

0:14:41.680 --> 0:14:44.040
<v Speaker 1>police went straight to Jeff's and his father told them

0:14:44.080 --> 0:14:47.480
<v Speaker 1>about Jeff's thirty two caliber handgun while the police searched

0:14:47.560 --> 0:14:50.400
<v Speaker 1>for that. The next time Jeff called home. His dad

0:14:50.440 --> 0:14:51.480
<v Speaker 1>told him what was happening.

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<v Speaker 2>I had a passport to leave the country, and he said,

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<v Speaker 2>you want me to send this. I said no, I said,

0:14:56.160 --> 0:14:59.040
<v Speaker 2>I'm coming back. I'm innocent. I didn't do this when

0:14:59.080 --> 0:15:01.480
<v Speaker 2>I made this trip back and I got arrested. And

0:15:02.040 --> 0:15:04.880
<v Speaker 2>Leonard Taylor was my attorney. All he really worked on

0:15:05.280 --> 0:15:09.200
<v Speaker 2>was workman's comp cases and dwi's. This was actually his

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<v Speaker 2>first murder trial that he ever participated in.

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<v Speaker 1>Already, this is a bad sign. And then things get

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<v Speaker 1>worse when they questioned Waspmer and Neemen.

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<v Speaker 3>During the recorded interview.

0:15:20.320 --> 0:15:25.280
<v Speaker 4>Neemen is denying any knowledge about Anythingniemen's there with a

0:15:25.320 --> 0:15:29.960
<v Speaker 4>public defender. The public defender tells Neeman, look, you're gonna

0:15:29.960 --> 0:15:35.680
<v Speaker 4>be in just fan shape with these fan gentlemen, and leaves.

0:15:36.800 --> 0:15:40.920
<v Speaker 4>That's one the Atturneyniemen was specifically told that if he

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<v Speaker 4>didn't give a story blaming bou Prix, he was going

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<v Speaker 4>to be charged with the murder. Neiman then comes up

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<v Speaker 4>with a story that you know, bou pri went in

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<v Speaker 4>and then he heard a gunshot, and then beaupre grabbed

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<v Speaker 4>a few things inside the house and brought him out,

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<v Speaker 4>and Neiman then goes in and supposedly steals in camera,

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<v Speaker 4>and that's ultimately what he pleads guilty to.

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<v Speaker 1>So he pleads guilty to theft. The problem is that

0:16:08.640 --> 0:16:11.360
<v Speaker 1>Sharon's camera was a really nice one, while the one

0:16:11.440 --> 0:16:15.800
<v Speaker 1>that Nieman pled guilty to stealing was cheap piece of junk. Additionally,

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<v Speaker 1>not only were there tens of thousands of dollars worth

0:16:17.680 --> 0:16:19.680
<v Speaker 1>of cash and drugs in the house, but Richard had

0:16:19.720 --> 0:16:23.040
<v Speaker 1>three thousand dollars worth of cocaine in his pocket, which

0:16:23.080 --> 0:16:26.680
<v Speaker 1>makes this deaf motive totally unbelievable, not to mention that

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<v Speaker 1>this statement was made under the threat of a potential

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<v Speaker 1>death sentence, and then Wassmer got similar treatment. So he

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<v Speaker 1>said that he overheard Jeff and Allen talking about the

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<v Speaker 1>murder and then he helped to get rid of Jeff's

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<v Speaker 1>thirty two caliber handgun.

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<v Speaker 4>On the way to Arizona, they obtained the record of

0:16:45.280 --> 0:16:48.920
<v Speaker 4>the firearm that Jeff had bought before they ever found

0:16:48.920 --> 0:16:51.120
<v Speaker 4>the firearm to know what kind of firearm it was,

0:16:51.600 --> 0:16:54.040
<v Speaker 4>and then changed that so, I don't know, we didn't

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<v Speaker 4>get those records. Then we got him months later, Wasmer says.

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<v Speaker 4>Then he disassembles the gun and throws it out in

0:17:02.080 --> 0:17:05.640
<v Speaker 4>different parts along the way, but they found a gun

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<v Speaker 4>not disassembled.

0:17:07.440 --> 0:17:10.760
<v Speaker 1>Which would have ruled out Wassmer's statement. It just didn't match.

0:17:11.280 --> 0:17:14.160
<v Speaker 2>They say that we jumped over a fence and threw

0:17:14.160 --> 0:17:17.160
<v Speaker 2>it in a mud hole. I'm like, where are they

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<v Speaker 2>getting this?

0:17:18.280 --> 0:17:21.520
<v Speaker 1>So a thirty two caliber handgun was presented as Jeff's gun,

0:17:21.760 --> 0:17:25.479
<v Speaker 1>allegedly found somewhere outside of Gallup, New Mexico, and it

0:17:25.520 --> 0:17:28.119
<v Speaker 1>was missing the thumb safety, which would have held in

0:17:28.200 --> 0:17:31.320
<v Speaker 1>the cartridge in this gun. Then the disconnector as well

0:17:31.320 --> 0:17:33.320
<v Speaker 1>as the hammer pin, which could have been used to

0:17:33.400 --> 0:17:38.080
<v Speaker 1>most accurately identify this weapon as Jeff's or not. Nevertheless,

0:17:38.480 --> 0:17:42.639
<v Speaker 1>the narrative had congealed around this weapon and the two statements.

0:17:42.840 --> 0:17:45.840
<v Speaker 1>But then they got wind of sixteen year old Melissa

0:17:45.840 --> 0:17:48.920
<v Speaker 1>Martinez talking about the murder with her classmates.

0:17:49.160 --> 0:17:52.199
<v Speaker 2>We found out about her in nineteen ninety two a

0:17:52.320 --> 0:17:56.880
<v Speaker 2>lady named Mellie Estada. Melly was a dispatch for the

0:17:56.920 --> 0:18:01.680
<v Speaker 2>Sheriff's Department. I think her daughter, Patty, told her that

0:18:01.760 --> 0:18:05.080
<v Speaker 2>Melissa had told this story at school. So she went

0:18:05.200 --> 0:18:08.840
<v Speaker 2>to State Patrol and they took a statement from Patty

0:18:08.880 --> 0:18:10.800
<v Speaker 2>and they said that they didn't believe her.

0:18:11.160 --> 0:18:13.919
<v Speaker 1>So by September twenty ninth, nineteen eighty eight, police had

0:18:13.960 --> 0:18:17.440
<v Speaker 1>spoken with Melissa. According to her affidavits many years later,

0:18:17.560 --> 0:18:20.960
<v Speaker 1>she told them about her experience that night. She knew

0:18:21.280 --> 0:18:23.800
<v Speaker 1>John Yello boy, don't forget. She told them that she

0:18:24.040 --> 0:18:27.520
<v Speaker 1>heard his voice in the trailer right before Sharon was killed.

0:18:28.040 --> 0:18:31.520
<v Speaker 1>And then there's the rest of her memory about running out,

0:18:31.720 --> 0:18:34.800
<v Speaker 1>not seeing Richard's body, and banging on the neighbor's door.

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<v Speaker 1>Of course, this all ran counter to the narrative from

0:18:39.240 --> 0:18:40.840
<v Speaker 1>Neemon and wasper They.

0:18:40.840 --> 0:18:45.119
<v Speaker 4>Take Melissa and scuttle her around in different juvenile placements

0:18:45.119 --> 0:18:46.080
<v Speaker 4>and get her out of.

0:18:46.000 --> 0:18:49.480
<v Speaker 1>Town along with her brand new living arrangements. A state

0:18:49.560 --> 0:18:53.600
<v Speaker 1>police report was submitted into evidence alleging that Melissa admitted

0:18:53.600 --> 0:18:56.880
<v Speaker 1>to fabricating the story. So that's all that the defense

0:18:57.040 --> 0:19:00.840
<v Speaker 1>was privy to a trial, and again things continued to

0:19:00.880 --> 0:19:01.480
<v Speaker 1>get worse.

0:19:01.960 --> 0:19:05.720
<v Speaker 2>The whole process was kind of shady from the beginning,

0:19:05.760 --> 0:19:08.400
<v Speaker 2>because if you look at the rules of the courts,

0:19:08.680 --> 0:19:12.080
<v Speaker 2>now that I understand it, you pick a jury one

0:19:12.160 --> 0:19:15.480
<v Speaker 2>day two days before you actually go to trial. They

0:19:15.520 --> 0:19:19.040
<v Speaker 2>had picked my jury like seventeen days out. There was

0:19:19.080 --> 0:19:21.640
<v Speaker 2>no sub question of the jury or nothing like that,

0:19:21.800 --> 0:19:26.439
<v Speaker 2>so they got to see all the evidence that was

0:19:26.640 --> 0:19:28.480
<v Speaker 2>playing out in the media.

0:19:28.600 --> 0:19:32.240
<v Speaker 1>Which all potentially biased the jury going into trial. In

0:19:32.320 --> 0:19:36.240
<v Speaker 1>early March nineteen eighty nine, when Alan Neeman testified that

0:19:36.359 --> 0:19:40.240
<v Speaker 1>Jeff suggested robbing and killing Richard on their multiple trips

0:19:40.280 --> 0:19:43.480
<v Speaker 1>to buy cocaine, Nieman claimed that Jeff had stopped at

0:19:43.480 --> 0:19:46.600
<v Speaker 1>his house, perhaps to get his gun before their final

0:19:46.640 --> 0:19:49.280
<v Speaker 1>trip to Richards, at which point he said that Jeff

0:19:49.359 --> 0:19:52.879
<v Speaker 1>shot Richard when he came to the door, suggesting a

0:19:53.040 --> 0:19:57.959
<v Speaker 1>forensically very improbable angle. Then said that they both stole

0:19:58.040 --> 0:20:01.760
<v Speaker 1>things from the house, including a ca and drug scales,

0:20:01.800 --> 0:20:05.160
<v Speaker 1>before Jeff went back inside, and Neeman said he heard

0:20:05.160 --> 0:20:07.320
<v Speaker 1>a woman's voice followed by gunshots.

0:20:07.640 --> 0:20:11.919
<v Speaker 2>Alan Neman, he testifies, he can't motion to me. You

0:20:11.960 --> 0:20:14.520
<v Speaker 2>could read his lips where he was saying he was

0:20:14.600 --> 0:20:16.000
<v Speaker 2>sorry of what he was saying.

0:20:16.400 --> 0:20:21.040
<v Speaker 1>Despite whatever little good that did. Another state's witness named

0:20:21.160 --> 0:20:24.960
<v Speaker 1>rich Zog, claimed that Jeff had suggested robbing Richard on

0:20:25.080 --> 0:20:28.280
<v Speaker 1>multiple occasions, but again, there were tens of thousands of

0:20:28.320 --> 0:20:31.280
<v Speaker 1>dollars in drugs and cash left behind that made this

0:20:31.400 --> 0:20:36.200
<v Speaker 1>whole robbery story sound ludicrous. So moving on, they presented

0:20:36.280 --> 0:20:40.040
<v Speaker 1>wasmer with his bit about disassembling the gun and tossing

0:20:40.080 --> 0:20:40.520
<v Speaker 1>it away.

0:20:41.080 --> 0:20:44.479
<v Speaker 4>Then there's a fun guy named Mike Knu, a jailhouse snitch,

0:20:44.800 --> 0:20:46.920
<v Speaker 4>who testifies that Jeff confessed.

0:20:47.240 --> 0:20:50.199
<v Speaker 2>I think he said that I told him that you

0:20:50.240 --> 0:20:53.960
<v Speaker 2>should have heard the bit compleet for life and some

0:20:54.040 --> 0:20:57.400
<v Speaker 2>other stuff about val Daz kind of wrote nothing because

0:20:57.520 --> 0:20:58.919
<v Speaker 2>he was bleeding too much.

0:20:59.359 --> 0:21:02.840
<v Speaker 1>So the state it's own witness dispels the idea that

0:21:02.880 --> 0:21:06.760
<v Speaker 1>this was a dying declaration, while also assigning a consciousness

0:21:06.760 --> 0:21:07.919
<v Speaker 1>of guilt to Jeff.

0:21:08.560 --> 0:21:13.119
<v Speaker 4>Now, Jeff lawyer Taber also represented the jail house snitch,

0:21:13.440 --> 0:21:17.040
<v Speaker 4>but he never disclosed that he actually represented him. He

0:21:17.160 --> 0:21:20.520
<v Speaker 4>was serving time on a drunk driving case. It's unclear

0:21:20.720 --> 0:21:24.640
<v Speaker 4>what he got, although I mean he obviously was let

0:21:24.680 --> 0:21:25.320
<v Speaker 4>out of jail.

0:21:25.600 --> 0:21:28.320
<v Speaker 2>Well, I was being held at in jail. I was

0:21:28.359 --> 0:21:33.200
<v Speaker 2>like segregated from everybody else. So he apparently got out,

0:21:33.280 --> 0:21:37.240
<v Speaker 2>and then he came back in January, and he was

0:21:37.320 --> 0:21:41.480
<v Speaker 2>a trustee, so he started saying, Hey, I'm going to

0:21:41.560 --> 0:21:45.000
<v Speaker 2>a with your father. You want anything to say. I said, yeah,

0:21:45.080 --> 0:21:47.000
<v Speaker 2>tell my dad I love him and stuff like that.

0:21:47.320 --> 0:21:50.560
<v Speaker 2>And that was probably the extent of any of our conversations.

0:21:51.000 --> 0:21:53.320
<v Speaker 2>But when he got on the stand and started saying

0:21:53.359 --> 0:21:56.480
<v Speaker 2>that he sept by my cell and I told him

0:21:56.480 --> 0:21:58.960
<v Speaker 2>the whole story, I'm like, this has to be a

0:21:58.960 --> 0:22:00.960
<v Speaker 2>plant from Silverman.

0:22:01.080 --> 0:22:05.320
<v Speaker 1>Or perhaps indirectly Leonard Tabor. Maybe he was told to

0:22:05.359 --> 0:22:08.760
<v Speaker 1>approach the head DA Silverman to offer his testimony for

0:22:08.840 --> 0:22:11.920
<v Speaker 1>leniency in the charges for which Tabor was representing him.

0:22:12.280 --> 0:22:15.000
<v Speaker 1>We can't know the specifics, but one thing I do

0:22:15.160 --> 0:22:17.800
<v Speaker 1>know is that this shit freaking stinks.

0:22:18.240 --> 0:22:21.160
<v Speaker 2>The jailers even got on the stand that testified said

0:22:21.160 --> 0:22:23.960
<v Speaker 2>that there was canvas pointing at my cell. They could

0:22:23.960 --> 0:22:26.040
<v Speaker 2>have seen all that stuff if somebody sit in front

0:22:26.040 --> 0:22:28.240
<v Speaker 2>of my cell and I told him for an hour

0:22:28.400 --> 0:22:30.760
<v Speaker 2>or so to tell them my story. So two of

0:22:30.800 --> 0:22:33.800
<v Speaker 2>the jailers got up on a stand and testified to

0:22:33.880 --> 0:22:35.680
<v Speaker 2>the fact that this never happened.

0:22:35.920 --> 0:22:39.440
<v Speaker 1>In addition to the jailers, Tabor had prepared expert witnesses

0:22:39.480 --> 0:22:42.280
<v Speaker 1>to battle both the States pathologists who claimed that Valdez

0:22:42.320 --> 0:22:45.240
<v Speaker 1>could have mustered the strength to write two dying declarations,

0:22:45.600 --> 0:22:48.159
<v Speaker 1>as well as the ballistics expert who called the gun

0:22:48.440 --> 0:22:51.080
<v Speaker 1>allegedly found in the desert a match.

0:22:51.560 --> 0:22:55.399
<v Speaker 2>The guy that they had was Mark Bahadi. His story

0:22:55.440 --> 0:22:59.880
<v Speaker 2>has changed now too. But our expert Kwood said that

0:23:00.200 --> 0:23:03.240
<v Speaker 2>he couldn't even test fire the gun and that there

0:23:03.320 --> 0:23:06.600
<v Speaker 2>was no way that this was the weapon. And then

0:23:06.960 --> 0:23:10.480
<v Speaker 2>our pathologist, he said there's no way. He was losing

0:23:10.520 --> 0:23:13.520
<v Speaker 2>too much blood in all this sudden stuff. And they

0:23:13.600 --> 0:23:17.639
<v Speaker 2>believed the state's pathologists that didn't have a quarter of

0:23:17.680 --> 0:23:21.840
<v Speaker 2>the experience that the pathologists that we hired out of Omaha.

0:23:22.040 --> 0:23:25.359
<v Speaker 1>And maybe with the battle of experts and shaky witnesses,

0:23:25.440 --> 0:23:27.960
<v Speaker 1>there was a nudge in the wrong direction from one

0:23:28.000 --> 0:23:31.080
<v Speaker 1>of the defense's own witnesses, John Yellowboy.

0:23:31.400 --> 0:23:34.760
<v Speaker 4>He's called as a defense witness. Why, I have no idea,

0:23:34.800 --> 0:23:37.399
<v Speaker 4>but he does end up throwing dirt on Jeff.

0:23:38.000 --> 0:23:40.439
<v Speaker 1>He said that he was president at the scene that

0:23:40.600 --> 0:23:43.760
<v Speaker 1>night and saw Jeff Beaupriy there, But at what time?

0:23:44.160 --> 0:23:46.720
<v Speaker 1>After all, Jeff had gone out to Richards several times

0:23:46.760 --> 0:23:49.879
<v Speaker 1>that night, plus yellow Boy appears to have had his

0:23:49.920 --> 0:23:54.440
<v Speaker 1>own motivations as a potential suspect. Either way, this couldn't

0:23:54.520 --> 0:23:55.359
<v Speaker 1>have helped Jeff.

0:23:55.800 --> 0:23:58.960
<v Speaker 2>The jury went in to deliberate, and they came back

0:23:59.119 --> 0:24:02.280
<v Speaker 2>nine and half hours or so later with the guilty verdict.

0:24:02.920 --> 0:24:05.639
<v Speaker 2>They were seeking the death penalty on me, and the

0:24:05.760 --> 0:24:10.320
<v Speaker 2>report from the judges said that one thing that saved

0:24:10.320 --> 0:24:13.200
<v Speaker 2>me from the death penalty is that I actually come

0:24:13.280 --> 0:24:15.520
<v Speaker 2>back to be questioned because I knew I was innocent.

0:24:16.040 --> 0:24:17.880
<v Speaker 2>You know, I didn't have nothing to hide.

0:24:18.320 --> 0:24:21.119
<v Speaker 4>Yeah, he faced the death penalty, but I think the

0:24:21.160 --> 0:24:24.680
<v Speaker 4>recommendation was made by the jury life without the possibility

0:24:24.680 --> 0:24:25.119
<v Speaker 4>a probe.

0:24:25.800 --> 0:24:28.560
<v Speaker 2>So I was thankful that I didn't get the death penalty,

0:24:28.840 --> 0:24:33.720
<v Speaker 2>but I still got two licences running consecutively, and then

0:24:33.840 --> 0:24:36.800
<v Speaker 2>six and two thirds to twenty two times for the

0:24:36.840 --> 0:24:40.880
<v Speaker 2>firearm charges, and then two eight to fifteen that were

0:24:40.920 --> 0:24:43.480
<v Speaker 2>running concurrent that was for the robberies.

0:24:43.880 --> 0:24:47.640
<v Speaker 1>So just in case you're immortal enough to live out

0:24:47.680 --> 0:24:50.960
<v Speaker 1>two entire life sentences, they could still hold you.

0:24:51.680 --> 0:25:10.320
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, exactly. I thought that the justice system would work

0:25:10.359 --> 0:25:13.480
<v Speaker 2>itself out. Maybe it's going to take five years to

0:25:13.520 --> 0:25:17.040
<v Speaker 2>get this undone. I never ever dreamt that I'd still

0:25:17.080 --> 0:25:21.320
<v Speaker 2>be fighting it after thirty seven years. I was always

0:25:21.359 --> 0:25:26.920
<v Speaker 2>told from older inmates, don't gamble, don't borrow anything, just

0:25:27.200 --> 0:25:31.000
<v Speaker 2>the simple things. Keep busy, don't get in other people's

0:25:31.000 --> 0:25:34.280
<v Speaker 2>business and stuff like that. So I kind of did

0:25:34.320 --> 0:25:37.800
<v Speaker 2>that my whole incarceration and I've done enough time where

0:25:37.880 --> 0:25:41.040
<v Speaker 2>people kind of respect you. Now. Some of them call

0:25:41.119 --> 0:25:43.479
<v Speaker 2>me old timer because I am a little older than

0:25:43.520 --> 0:25:46.520
<v Speaker 2>I was when I came in. But I made myself

0:25:46.760 --> 0:25:49.960
<v Speaker 2>busy right away. I got into hobby. I'm I legal

0:25:50.040 --> 0:25:52.520
<v Speaker 2>aid here. I'd had to learn how to type, I

0:25:52.600 --> 0:25:55.840
<v Speaker 2>had to learn how to run the computers. I had

0:25:55.840 --> 0:25:58.199
<v Speaker 2>to do all that on my own. I didn't know

0:25:58.280 --> 0:26:00.719
<v Speaker 2>none of that when I first came to him. So

0:26:01.320 --> 0:26:04.440
<v Speaker 2>I mean, I just keep tugging away and never thought

0:26:04.480 --> 0:26:08.720
<v Speaker 2>that I would still be imprisoned after thirty seven years.

0:26:08.920 --> 0:26:11.720
<v Speaker 1>Especially since he got some great support from a private

0:26:11.760 --> 0:26:14.960
<v Speaker 1>investigator named Denny Whalen. Soon after his conviction.

0:26:15.080 --> 0:26:18.120
<v Speaker 2>Denny Whalen, a lady sent him a letter saying, hey,

0:26:18.520 --> 0:26:21.840
<v Speaker 2>you need to check this case out, and he talked

0:26:21.840 --> 0:26:24.399
<v Speaker 2>to her for several hours. Then he came in and

0:26:25.080 --> 0:26:28.040
<v Speaker 2>I went through the story with him, and then he left,

0:26:28.359 --> 0:26:31.360
<v Speaker 2>and then he came back a couple days later. And

0:26:31.400 --> 0:26:34.280
<v Speaker 2>it had me answer almost the same question to see

0:26:34.280 --> 0:26:36.240
<v Speaker 2>if I was lying or not. You know what I mean.

0:26:36.560 --> 0:26:39.520
<v Speaker 2>And one thing I will never forget Denny Whalen. He says,

0:26:39.800 --> 0:26:43.080
<v Speaker 2>I believe you're innocent. He says, I'm gonna do everything

0:26:43.119 --> 0:26:45.760
<v Speaker 2>in my power to get you out of there. He

0:26:46.359 --> 0:26:49.200
<v Speaker 2>actually mortgaged his house a couple of times. I mean,

0:26:49.520 --> 0:26:52.440
<v Speaker 2>he was like a father to me. I believe Alan

0:26:52.520 --> 0:26:56.000
<v Speaker 2>Neeman came first. Denny Whalen went down and interviewed him,

0:26:56.280 --> 0:26:59.760
<v Speaker 2>and then he recanted. I want to say eighty nine.

0:27:00.080 --> 0:27:03.439
<v Speaker 2>We found out about Melissa in nineteen ninety two. She

0:27:04.000 --> 0:27:06.800
<v Speaker 2>talked about Yellow Boy and stuff like that.

0:27:07.040 --> 0:27:09.280
<v Speaker 1>And she tells the same story that she told her

0:27:09.320 --> 0:27:12.720
<v Speaker 1>classmates immediately after the murder, then to the police, only

0:27:12.800 --> 0:27:15.639
<v Speaker 1>to have a December nineteen eighty eight police report claim

0:27:15.720 --> 0:27:18.359
<v Speaker 1>that she had made it all up before being sent

0:27:18.400 --> 0:27:22.640
<v Speaker 1>off to some juvenile placement in Colorado. And remember, her

0:27:22.680 --> 0:27:27.800
<v Speaker 1>original account critically was corroborated by Sharon Condon's bleeding pattern,

0:27:28.160 --> 0:27:31.240
<v Speaker 1>as well as the neighbors who heard her knocking on

0:27:31.280 --> 0:27:33.600
<v Speaker 1>the door at three am. She also added that she

0:27:33.680 --> 0:27:37.000
<v Speaker 1>knew Jeff she heard three male voices that night and

0:27:37.359 --> 0:27:40.959
<v Speaker 1>that he was not one of them. So they filed

0:27:40.960 --> 0:27:42.960
<v Speaker 1>a motion for a new trial based on the new

0:27:43.000 --> 0:27:46.639
<v Speaker 1>evidence and a Brady violation in the form of Melissa Martinez.

0:27:47.000 --> 0:27:51.280
<v Speaker 1>But again, Melissa Martinez never made it to the witness stand.

0:27:51.359 --> 0:27:54.960
<v Speaker 4>So they don't really get Melissa Martinez, but they get

0:27:55.119 --> 0:27:57.879
<v Speaker 4>a police report where she's scribbled this is true, this

0:27:57.960 --> 0:28:01.040
<v Speaker 4>is true, this is true, all of which tredicted the

0:28:01.080 --> 0:28:04.240
<v Speaker 4>sworn statement that she gave, the bulk of which is

0:28:04.640 --> 0:28:08.000
<v Speaker 4>statement she ended up going to her grave with. And

0:28:08.040 --> 0:28:11.520
<v Speaker 4>then basically Niemen's the same thing. They have a state

0:28:11.560 --> 0:28:13.720
<v Speaker 4>trooper sa I talked to him and he denied it all.

0:28:13.960 --> 0:28:16.919
<v Speaker 4>They don't bring Neemen back to testifying, mind you, and

0:28:16.920 --> 0:28:19.280
<v Speaker 4>they allow this guy to give the hearsay testimony that

0:28:19.320 --> 0:28:23.439
<v Speaker 4>he retracted his recantation. It's strange because Neiman said the

0:28:23.440 --> 0:28:26.000
<v Speaker 4>only person that actually came to visit him in prison

0:28:26.119 --> 0:28:27.280
<v Speaker 4>was Silverman.

0:28:27.359 --> 0:28:33.119
<v Speaker 1>Who, in all likelihood threatened him again with the murder charge, perjury,

0:28:33.680 --> 0:28:35.880
<v Speaker 1>the whole kitchen sinke, Yeah, you sure.

0:28:35.720 --> 0:28:37.040
<v Speaker 3>You want to face murder charges?

0:28:37.320 --> 0:28:41.400
<v Speaker 4>He signed something, but it's not a true affidavit, sworn affidavit.

0:28:41.480 --> 0:28:42.840
<v Speaker 3>But I was accepted. And how was that?

0:28:43.480 --> 0:28:46.720
<v Speaker 1>The court ruled that, in addition to the retractions, that Martinez's

0:28:46.800 --> 0:28:48.920
<v Speaker 1>account did not put her in a position to prove

0:28:49.000 --> 0:28:52.800
<v Speaker 1>Jeff's citizens, so the motion was denied. Then came an

0:28:52.800 --> 0:28:56.400
<v Speaker 1>ineffective council post conviction filing in nineteen ninety five, claiming

0:28:56.440 --> 0:28:59.480
<v Speaker 1>that councils should have investigated alternate suspects.

0:29:00.000 --> 0:29:03.080
<v Speaker 4>I don't raise oddly, during the first and effective claim

0:29:03.120 --> 0:29:06.720
<v Speaker 4>that he also represented this jailhouse snitch, which a second

0:29:06.800 --> 0:29:09.480
<v Speaker 4>year law student knows you can't do that. You can't

0:29:09.520 --> 0:29:13.440
<v Speaker 4>represent the jail house snitch testifying against your client.

0:29:14.120 --> 0:29:17.560
<v Speaker 1>By this time, Danny Whalen's son, Lawrence, was representing Jeff

0:29:17.600 --> 0:29:21.840
<v Speaker 1>pro Bono, who found additional exculpatory evidence surrounding the alleged

0:29:21.880 --> 0:29:24.720
<v Speaker 1>dying declaration that had been written on the floor in

0:29:24.840 --> 0:29:25.480
<v Speaker 1>Engine Greece.

0:29:26.040 --> 0:29:29.920
<v Speaker 4>They found that the door to Valdez's place had a

0:29:29.960 --> 0:29:33.320
<v Speaker 4>curtain rod and a curtain hanger, And as they're talking

0:29:33.360 --> 0:29:36.280
<v Speaker 4>about it, while they're filming it, as they're going through it,

0:29:36.440 --> 0:29:38.640
<v Speaker 4>they're saying, jeez, that looks like blood and grease on

0:29:38.720 --> 0:29:41.760
<v Speaker 4>the curtain hanger. Which if there was grease on it,

0:29:42.000 --> 0:29:45.640
<v Speaker 4>that's a pretty big deal, right, because how did Valdez

0:29:45.720 --> 0:29:47.640
<v Speaker 4>get all the way to the curtain Did he peek

0:29:47.680 --> 0:29:50.600
<v Speaker 4>out with the grease after and then lay down? It

0:29:50.640 --> 0:29:53.040
<v Speaker 4>doesn't make any sense that curtain disappeared.

0:29:53.560 --> 0:29:56.520
<v Speaker 1>And the post conviction motion was denied in two thousand

0:29:56.560 --> 0:29:58.959
<v Speaker 1>and two, so the Whalen sought to expand their support

0:29:59.000 --> 0:30:00.000
<v Speaker 1>and begin DNA tech.

0:30:00.560 --> 0:30:02.880
<v Speaker 2>I don't know if you ever heard of Reuben Hurricane Carter.

0:30:03.440 --> 0:30:07.320
<v Speaker 2>So I got to speak to Ruben and Danny and

0:30:07.360 --> 0:30:09.880
<v Speaker 2>his son had went to Canada for them guys to

0:30:10.040 --> 0:30:13.520
<v Speaker 2>endorse the case and then win where she got ahold

0:30:13.560 --> 0:30:17.960
<v Speaker 2>of Colin starter from the IP and then they got

0:30:18.080 --> 0:30:19.400
<v Speaker 2>the DNA started on it.

0:30:19.840 --> 0:30:22.160
<v Speaker 1>The Innocent Project in New York was able to do

0:30:22.320 --> 0:30:25.360
<v Speaker 1>DNA testing on some of the crime scene evidence, including

0:30:25.440 --> 0:30:27.320
<v Speaker 1>a bloodstain near the door handle.

0:30:27.360 --> 0:30:31.080
<v Speaker 4>Right and on the door they find John yellow Boy's

0:30:31.160 --> 0:30:35.840
<v Speaker 4>DNA blood DNA, and a judge makes finding that John

0:30:35.920 --> 0:30:38.960
<v Speaker 4>Yellow Boy was a frequent visitor at the residence and

0:30:39.000 --> 0:30:42.840
<v Speaker 4>that explains away his blood DNA on the door blood DNA.

0:30:43.240 --> 0:30:44.960
<v Speaker 1>I'm going to have to give them a ten out

0:30:45.000 --> 0:30:49.480
<v Speaker 1>of ten for these intellectual gymnastics. I suppose they could

0:30:49.520 --> 0:30:53.000
<v Speaker 1>also argue that even if Yellow Boy was there, that

0:30:53.280 --> 0:30:56.240
<v Speaker 1>doesn't necessarily mean that Jeff was not.

0:30:56.240 --> 0:30:59.120
<v Speaker 4>Not according to Alan Neman, the theory of the case

0:30:59.240 --> 0:31:01.760
<v Speaker 4>was Alan Neiman, and yellow Boy is not part of that,

0:31:01.960 --> 0:31:05.520
<v Speaker 4>and his blood on the door doesn't fit that narrative.

0:31:05.600 --> 0:31:08.560
<v Speaker 3>The narrative that was used to convict it all either way.

0:31:08.600 --> 0:31:11.160
<v Speaker 1>These preceding stretched from two thousand and five all the

0:31:11.160 --> 0:31:14.440
<v Speaker 1>way through twenty twelve, at which point Jeff's team began

0:31:14.560 --> 0:31:17.200
<v Speaker 1>tracking down a woman named Sheila Janis who had told

0:31:17.240 --> 0:31:20.560
<v Speaker 1>Melissa Martinez about her past with John Yellowboy, and the

0:31:20.600 --> 0:31:24.479
<v Speaker 1>team finally found her in twenty seventeen. Apparently she had

0:31:24.520 --> 0:31:29.200
<v Speaker 1>disappeared after a horrific ongoing abduction scenario that began in

0:31:29.240 --> 0:31:32.600
<v Speaker 1>the immediate aftermath of the murders in nineteen eighty eight.

0:31:33.120 --> 0:31:36.680
<v Speaker 4>John Yellow Boy had beaten her severely and taken her

0:31:36.720 --> 0:31:40.080
<v Speaker 4>to the house where the murder occurred, and she knew

0:31:40.080 --> 0:31:42.400
<v Speaker 4>it was the house because the floor was cut out,

0:31:42.880 --> 0:31:46.560
<v Speaker 4>which is a detail that he probably wouldn't know. I mean,

0:31:46.600 --> 0:31:49.160
<v Speaker 4>they cut a section of the floor out where this

0:31:49.720 --> 0:31:52.760
<v Speaker 4>writing in Greece was, and the police picked the floor

0:31:52.800 --> 0:31:56.760
<v Speaker 4>with him, and she recalls being in the house being

0:31:56.840 --> 0:32:02.520
<v Speaker 4>repeatedly raped while John Yellowboy Boy is talking to Sharon

0:32:02.640 --> 0:32:05.320
<v Speaker 4>and Richard saying things like why did you make me

0:32:05.440 --> 0:32:05.800
<v Speaker 4>do this?

0:32:06.240 --> 0:32:09.080
<v Speaker 3>Why? Why did you have to do this? You were mine?

0:32:09.480 --> 0:32:14.840
<v Speaker 4>Crazy weird things. Valdez was supposedly leaving town and had

0:32:14.920 --> 0:32:18.000
<v Speaker 4>sold most of his worldly possessions. As he was getting

0:32:18.040 --> 0:32:20.479
<v Speaker 4>ready to leave, he thought his life was in danger.

0:32:20.560 --> 0:32:21.840
<v Speaker 4>Told several people that.

0:32:22.600 --> 0:32:24.360
<v Speaker 1>And we'll get to why he may have been in

0:32:24.440 --> 0:32:27.680
<v Speaker 1>fear for his life. But this certainly sets up the

0:32:27.720 --> 0:32:31.880
<v Speaker 1>motive for Yellowboy. According to Janice, Yellowboy, referring to Sharon

0:32:32.000 --> 0:32:35.840
<v Speaker 1>his confession, also said, quote she thought she could get

0:32:35.880 --> 0:32:40.320
<v Speaker 1>away with that Mexican bastard end quote before Yellowboy continued

0:32:40.360 --> 0:32:42.920
<v Speaker 1>to beat Sheila nearly to death. In fact, it seems

0:32:42.960 --> 0:32:44.960
<v Speaker 1>like he thought that he had actually killed her.

0:32:45.720 --> 0:32:49.120
<v Speaker 4>Yellow Boy, he's looking for sheilav after finding out that

0:32:49.280 --> 0:32:52.200
<v Speaker 4>she had survived. Sheila shows up.

0:32:52.280 --> 0:32:57.040
<v Speaker 3>At another woman's house. Sandra stands. She's called the police.

0:32:57.600 --> 0:33:01.640
<v Speaker 4>Sandra gave an affidavit when we found her that Sheila

0:33:01.720 --> 0:33:02.280
<v Speaker 4>showed up.

0:33:02.720 --> 0:33:03.560
<v Speaker 3>I called the police.

0:33:03.560 --> 0:33:06.160
<v Speaker 4>Took her to the bathroom, and while she was helping

0:33:06.160 --> 0:33:09.560
<v Speaker 4>Sheila clean up, she was startled by John Yellow Boy,

0:33:09.920 --> 0:33:12.360
<v Speaker 4>who simply appeared behind me over my shoulder.

0:33:12.840 --> 0:33:14.640
<v Speaker 1>There's those Michael Myers vibes.

0:33:15.200 --> 0:33:17.440
<v Speaker 4>She's startled by him being there, and what the hell

0:33:17.480 --> 0:33:19.360
<v Speaker 4>are you doing in my house? She pushed him out

0:33:19.400 --> 0:33:23.520
<v Speaker 4>the bathroom door and shut it. The police arrived, She

0:33:23.680 --> 0:33:26.160
<v Speaker 4>answered the door, and the police said where is he?

0:33:26.640 --> 0:33:29.720
<v Speaker 4>She was too afraid to say anything, but was able

0:33:29.720 --> 0:33:33.800
<v Speaker 4>to move and adjust her eyes in one direction, like

0:33:33.880 --> 0:33:37.640
<v Speaker 4>he's right here, And they busted in and they grabbed him, but.

0:33:37.600 --> 0:33:38.520
<v Speaker 3>Didn't get arrested.

0:33:38.680 --> 0:33:42.280
<v Speaker 4>What so, I think you need to understand some of

0:33:42.320 --> 0:33:47.440
<v Speaker 4>the baseline racism that exists in Scott's Bluff County. And

0:33:47.520 --> 0:33:51.920
<v Speaker 4>it's not the typical racism that I grew up in Waterloo, Iowa.

0:33:52.080 --> 0:33:54.440
<v Speaker 4>It's not while you're blacked, I should be afraid of

0:33:54.480 --> 0:33:57.960
<v Speaker 4>you and distrustful of you. It's racism against the Native

0:33:58.000 --> 0:34:01.120
<v Speaker 4>American community and that race. The system was not of

0:34:01.200 --> 0:34:05.360
<v Speaker 4>you're a bad person, it's you're not even a person.

0:34:06.440 --> 0:34:10.320
<v Speaker 4>So these people would be victims of crime, and probably

0:34:10.400 --> 0:34:14.319
<v Speaker 4>because there was an issue at times and getting those

0:34:14.360 --> 0:34:18.480
<v Speaker 4>people to show up to actually prosecute crimes, the police

0:34:18.480 --> 0:34:19.520
<v Speaker 4>never arrested.

0:34:19.160 --> 0:34:20.600
<v Speaker 3>Anybody in those situations.

0:34:20.960 --> 0:34:22.800
<v Speaker 4>They just say, well, if you want to press chargers

0:34:22.800 --> 0:34:24.880
<v Speaker 4>to go to the county attorney's office. It's kind of

0:34:24.880 --> 0:34:27.480
<v Speaker 4>a test to say are you going to pursue this

0:34:27.520 --> 0:34:28.000
<v Speaker 4>thing or not.

0:34:29.040 --> 0:34:31.959
<v Speaker 3>But it also sent the message that we don't really care.

0:34:32.520 --> 0:34:36.840
<v Speaker 1>So John Yellowboy was free to assault Shila he regularly kidnapped, raped,

0:34:37.040 --> 0:34:40.080
<v Speaker 1>and beat her, and he did so continuously for months

0:34:40.200 --> 0:34:43.200
<v Speaker 1>until his arrest for a rape in Colorado. And it

0:34:43.280 --> 0:34:45.720
<v Speaker 1>turned out that while Yellow Boy had kidnapped s Sheila

0:34:45.760 --> 0:34:49.560
<v Speaker 1>to Colorado, they stayed with none other than Melissa Martinez,

0:34:49.920 --> 0:34:53.400
<v Speaker 1>both of whom Yellow Boy claimed ownership over. They shared

0:34:53.440 --> 0:34:57.360
<v Speaker 1>their experiences, Melissa's ear witness account of Sharon's murder, yellow

0:34:57.360 --> 0:35:00.400
<v Speaker 1>Boy's confession to Shila, and the ongoing of duction and

0:35:00.440 --> 0:35:03.920
<v Speaker 1>sexual torture, and Sheila claims that he kept her compliant

0:35:03.960 --> 0:35:05.000
<v Speaker 1>by making threats.

0:35:05.320 --> 0:35:08.160
<v Speaker 4>John Yellowboy said, I'm going to kill your mother. I'm

0:35:08.160 --> 0:35:10.520
<v Speaker 4>going to kill anybody that's related to you if you

0:35:11.040 --> 0:35:14.000
<v Speaker 4>talk about this or mention me or anything. And lo

0:35:14.160 --> 0:35:17.480
<v Speaker 4>and behold, Sheila's mother's found dead and they said it's

0:35:17.520 --> 0:35:19.759
<v Speaker 4>an accidental drowning in a foot half of water.

0:35:20.160 --> 0:35:22.400
<v Speaker 1>This is when she fled to her sisters out.

0:35:22.280 --> 0:35:25.799
<v Speaker 4>Of state, and then he pretty much snatched her back in.

0:35:26.080 --> 0:35:30.120
<v Speaker 4>She was present when he committed the rape in Colorado,

0:35:30.200 --> 0:35:31.520
<v Speaker 4>and that's how she got away.

0:35:31.920 --> 0:35:35.319
<v Speaker 1>So Sheila basically disappeared until the team found her in

0:35:35.320 --> 0:35:39.120
<v Speaker 1>twenty seventeen. And even though Yellow Boy seemed capable of

0:35:39.200 --> 0:35:43.680
<v Speaker 1>killing Richard too. There are so many inexplicable elements of

0:35:43.719 --> 0:35:47.200
<v Speaker 1>this crime scene that suggests that Richard was murdered somewhere else.

0:35:47.680 --> 0:35:50.520
<v Speaker 1>The discrepancy with how much blood Richard actually spilled it,

0:35:50.640 --> 0:35:54.960
<v Speaker 1>the scene that according to Melissa Martinez, Richard's body was

0:35:55.000 --> 0:35:58.200
<v Speaker 1>not there when she left. That according to Eddie Johnson,

0:35:58.280 --> 0:36:01.319
<v Speaker 1>the pathologist and his post more to wounds, that his

0:36:01.440 --> 0:36:04.920
<v Speaker 1>body and dying declaration appear to have been staged. So

0:36:05.040 --> 0:36:08.759
<v Speaker 1>maybe after Sharon was killed, the body was discovered, and

0:36:08.880 --> 0:36:12.359
<v Speaker 1>his business partners thought it was prudent to tie up

0:36:12.360 --> 0:36:15.080
<v Speaker 1>the loose end before Richard got a chance to leave town.

0:36:15.520 --> 0:36:19.360
<v Speaker 4>The police chief of Gearing, which is a city that's

0:36:19.920 --> 0:36:24.240
<v Speaker 4>basically connected to Scott's Bluff. They're almost like small twin cities.

0:36:24.560 --> 0:36:28.480
<v Speaker 4>Okay went to the FBI with his suspicions that Brian

0:36:28.560 --> 0:36:33.360
<v Speaker 4>Silverman was behind a large cocaine distribution network in the

0:36:33.360 --> 0:36:37.640
<v Speaker 4>Scott's Bluff area. Brian Silverman was the guy who prosecuted Jeff.

0:36:37.480 --> 0:36:41.160
<v Speaker 1>Bo Prix, and we're not suggesting that Silverman was responsible,

0:36:41.160 --> 0:36:44.560
<v Speaker 1>but a potential proximity to power for the cocaine operation

0:36:44.640 --> 0:36:47.760
<v Speaker 1>in Scott's Bluff can make sense of how the investigation

0:36:47.960 --> 0:36:53.360
<v Speaker 1>and prosecution ignored the evidence suggesting separate murder scenes, staging,

0:36:54.040 --> 0:36:58.000
<v Speaker 1>and potentially other culprits, as well as how quickly Melissa

0:36:58.040 --> 0:37:02.080
<v Speaker 1>Martinez was reassigned to juvenile placement, out of state and

0:37:02.280 --> 0:37:05.839
<v Speaker 1>out of reach when her statement threatened to impeach the

0:37:06.080 --> 0:37:07.000
<v Speaker 1>entire narrative.

0:37:07.440 --> 0:37:12.319
<v Speaker 2>We got another affidavit from Melissa in twenty seventeen. She

0:37:12.440 --> 0:37:15.360
<v Speaker 2>said she was just heartbroken that I was still locked

0:37:15.440 --> 0:37:20.040
<v Speaker 2>up for Valdez in Condon's murders when she knows that

0:37:20.160 --> 0:37:20.839
<v Speaker 2>I didn't do it.

0:37:21.320 --> 0:37:24.680
<v Speaker 1>So with a more full account from Melissa Martinez, Sheila

0:37:24.760 --> 0:37:28.160
<v Speaker 1>Janis's story, the evidence of a separate crime scene, founded

0:37:28.200 --> 0:37:32.600
<v Speaker 1>Detective Marino's files, the potential shady dealings of the district attorney,

0:37:33.000 --> 0:37:35.799
<v Speaker 1>as well as new expert testimony about how at least

0:37:35.800 --> 0:37:38.480
<v Speaker 1>two of the wounds were inflicted post mortem and that

0:37:38.560 --> 0:37:41.560
<v Speaker 1>according to the autopsy, there's no chance that Richard Valdez

0:37:41.600 --> 0:37:44.400
<v Speaker 1>had anything to do with writing on the wall or door,

0:37:44.960 --> 0:37:47.759
<v Speaker 1>which is supported by the way by Eddie Johnson. They

0:37:47.800 --> 0:37:50.560
<v Speaker 1>went ahead and filed a new post conviction motion and

0:37:50.640 --> 0:37:53.240
<v Speaker 1>emotion for a new trial back in twenty eighteen.

0:37:53.640 --> 0:37:56.319
<v Speaker 4>To me, the biggest part of it was there's all

0:37:56.400 --> 0:37:59.840
<v Speaker 4>these things that had been litigated in bits and pieces

0:38:00.320 --> 0:38:02.800
<v Speaker 4>leading up to it, but when you put the full

0:38:02.880 --> 0:38:06.680
<v Speaker 4>picture together, it's like there's a lot here. But we

0:38:06.760 --> 0:38:10.040
<v Speaker 4>never got an evidentiary hearing, so our motion for new

0:38:10.080 --> 0:38:14.880
<v Speaker 4>trial was denied. Nebraska Supreme Court denied an appeal of

0:38:14.920 --> 0:38:17.920
<v Speaker 4>that and a rather scathing opinion that why would you

0:38:17.960 --> 0:38:19.120
<v Speaker 4>write all this stuff?

0:38:19.239 --> 0:38:21.800
<v Speaker 3>Basically it was too much stuff.

0:38:21.880 --> 0:38:25.040
<v Speaker 4>And then we got a post conviction pending too that

0:38:25.080 --> 0:38:28.800
<v Speaker 4>got thrown out. We tried to amend that's on appeal

0:38:28.880 --> 0:38:31.840
<v Speaker 4>right now, the amendment whether we should have been allowed

0:38:31.840 --> 0:38:35.680
<v Speaker 4>to amend our post conviction relief that post later filed.

0:38:35.760 --> 0:38:38.440
<v Speaker 4>We may end up having to do a federal habeas

0:38:38.560 --> 0:38:39.319
<v Speaker 4>or something like that.

0:38:39.840 --> 0:38:42.719
<v Speaker 1>And there's a lot more evidence and mystery still to

0:38:42.880 --> 0:38:46.359
<v Speaker 1>unfold in this case, including blonde hairs from crime scene

0:38:46.400 --> 0:38:49.120
<v Speaker 1>evidence that have never been tested. So we hope for

0:38:49.200 --> 0:38:52.479
<v Speaker 1>the best in future proceedings. In the meantime, if you'd

0:38:52.480 --> 0:38:55.640
<v Speaker 1>like to show your support for Jet's release, please take

0:38:55.680 --> 0:38:58.279
<v Speaker 1>a moment stop what you're doing right now, scroll down

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<v Speaker 1>on your listening app to the link in our episode

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<v Speaker 1>description and click on the link to sign the petition,

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<v Speaker 1>and with that we're going to go to closing arguments.

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<v Speaker 1>My favorite part of the show is everyone knows where.

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<v Speaker 1>First of all, I thank both of you guys for

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<v Speaker 1>being here and sharing, honestly, one of the craziest and

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<v Speaker 1>most terrifying stories I've ever heard in my thirty two

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<v Speaker 1>years of doing this work. And now I'm going to

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<v Speaker 1>kick back in my chair, turn my microphone off, and

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<v Speaker 1>leave my headphones on, and just listen to anything else

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<v Speaker 1>you want to share. Tom, you start off and then

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<v Speaker 1>hand the microphone off to Jeff and he'll take us

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<v Speaker 1>off into the sunset.

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<v Speaker 4>I mean, I just Jeff has been concerned that he

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<v Speaker 4>sits out there and nobody knows his plight.

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<v Speaker 3>So this kind of light.

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<v Speaker 4>Being shown on it is the kind of thing that

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<v Speaker 4>I think Jeff feels is important and is the kind

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<v Speaker 4>of thing that may eventually bring some pressure to bear

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<v Speaker 4>on somebody to take a good, close, hard look at

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<v Speaker 4>his case.

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<v Speaker 2>I would like to say, of an innocent man that's

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<v Speaker 2>been in prison for thirty seven years, I would ask

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<v Speaker 2>everybody to come forward and sign this petition so that

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<v Speaker 2>we can move this case forward and Jessica can finally

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<v Speaker 2>prevail and finally give me a release. Thirty seven years

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<v Speaker 2>is a long time, but I've never given up and

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<v Speaker 2>with all the help of friends, families, lawyers that have

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<v Speaker 2>donated their time and their money for this case, I

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<v Speaker 2>think it's time that we get an end to it.

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<v Speaker 2>And I would like to say thank you all for

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<v Speaker 2>being part of this and giving me the hope that

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<v Speaker 2>I need to make it through another day.

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