1
00:00:00,080 --> 00:00:03,000
Speaker 1: What's up, everybody. Welcome into a new week of Texans

2
00:00:03,080 --> 00:00:06,600
Speaker 1: All Access, a Monday edition from the UNDA Texans Radio studio.

3
00:00:07,000 --> 00:00:10,680
Speaker 1: John and Mark with you. Mark. Another day of practice,

4
00:00:10,760 --> 00:00:15,520
Speaker 1: a sweltering one out the Houston Methis Training Center. But

5
00:00:15,720 --> 00:00:18,000
Speaker 1: we got through it. Now we got Texans All Access.

6
00:00:18,000 --> 00:00:20,279
Speaker 2: How you doing, Yeah, I'm doing great, Johnny eleven on

7
00:00:20,320 --> 00:00:23,240
Speaker 2: eleven stuff today in full pads was fun to watch.

8
00:00:23,320 --> 00:00:25,360
Speaker 2: It was tough for the offense to get stuff going.

9
00:00:25,400 --> 00:00:28,160
Speaker 2: I like the physical play. I think it was more

10
00:00:28,200 --> 00:00:31,520
Speaker 2: of what we've seen in that we're seeing the defense

11
00:00:32,040 --> 00:00:34,760
Speaker 2: make a lot of plays here, making their presence felt.

12
00:00:34,760 --> 00:00:37,640
Speaker 2: We talk about the talent level on that side of

13
00:00:37,640 --> 00:00:40,040
Speaker 2: the ball all the time, not that there's not talent

14
00:00:40,120 --> 00:00:42,639
Speaker 2: on the offensive side of the ball, but defense still

15
00:00:42,680 --> 00:00:44,560
Speaker 2: ahead of the offense as far as I can see

16
00:00:44,560 --> 00:00:47,920
Speaker 2: it right now, and we're still waiting for that electrifying

17
00:00:48,000 --> 00:00:51,920
Speaker 2: offensive practice. We've seen some lightning bolts, but I'm waiting

18
00:00:51,960 --> 00:00:52,800
Speaker 2: for the storm.

19
00:00:53,120 --> 00:00:55,080
Speaker 1: There have been a couple times, You're right, lightning bolts

20
00:00:55,080 --> 00:00:58,000
Speaker 1: for sure, all right. In hockey, they do this thing

21
00:00:58,240 --> 00:01:00,680
Speaker 1: called three Stars. After a win, they give out three

22
00:01:00,680 --> 00:01:04,200
Speaker 1: star three stars of the game, like one two three, two, one,

23
00:01:04,240 --> 00:01:07,120
Speaker 1: and they they come and they skate out, and third

24
00:01:07,160 --> 00:01:11,040
Speaker 1: star is Marcell Dion and he comes out here. You

25
00:01:11,400 --> 00:01:14,280
Speaker 1: second star, you know, Jacques LaPlante.

26
00:01:14,319 --> 00:01:15,720
Speaker 3: Hey, you know.

27
00:01:15,840 --> 00:01:18,679
Speaker 1: Then it's Wayne Gretzky starting number one. So that's what

28
00:01:18,680 --> 00:01:23,600
Speaker 1: we're gonna do. Three stars that we've seen through the

29
00:01:23,640 --> 00:01:27,000
Speaker 1: first five days of practice. And I don't care who

30
00:01:27,040 --> 00:01:27,319
Speaker 1: you pick.

31
00:01:27,360 --> 00:01:27,760
Speaker 3: I don't care.

32
00:01:27,800 --> 00:01:29,680
Speaker 1: You could pick Cam Johnson because Cam has been hitting

33
00:01:29,680 --> 00:01:33,400
Speaker 1: some tags, so you could pick Cam Johnston. But we're

34
00:01:33,440 --> 00:01:40,440
Speaker 1: each picking three stars from the first five days of practice. Okay,

35
00:01:40,560 --> 00:01:43,320
Speaker 1: you want to go first or second, I'll go first. Okay,

36
00:01:43,319 --> 00:01:47,240
Speaker 1: go ahead, Okay, I'll go defense. I'll go linebacker. And

37
00:01:47,280 --> 00:01:48,480
Speaker 1: you know where I'm going with this one.

38
00:01:48,560 --> 00:01:51,960
Speaker 2: Dude, Blake Cashman, Yes, Blake Cashman, the former New York

39
00:01:52,040 --> 00:01:55,280
Speaker 2: Jet had injury problems there, came over here last year.

40
00:01:55,640 --> 00:01:57,240
Speaker 2: I think it was backed up a little last year

41
00:01:57,240 --> 00:01:59,240
Speaker 2: as well at the beginning, but he got in there

42
00:01:59,360 --> 00:02:00,760
Speaker 2: and he made his reence felt.

43
00:02:00,800 --> 00:02:02,880
Speaker 1: And he's one of those linebackers.

44
00:02:03,280 --> 00:02:06,279
Speaker 2: Look, we haven't done our full No one's talking about

45
00:02:06,280 --> 00:02:09,920
Speaker 2: this guy Guy and impossible not to ignore Guy Guy

46
00:02:10,320 --> 00:02:12,640
Speaker 2: Awards in the morning, and we will get to that.

47
00:02:12,720 --> 00:02:15,120
Speaker 2: I'm sure because we're still relatively early in these training

48
00:02:15,120 --> 00:02:16,000
Speaker 2: camp morning shows.

49
00:02:16,080 --> 00:02:18,160
Speaker 1: Actually, how early are we? We're four in.

50
00:02:18,440 --> 00:02:22,639
Speaker 2: We're almost halfway through, my goodness, but Blake Cashman had

51
00:02:22,680 --> 00:02:26,359
Speaker 2: to pick on Sunday, how to pick on Monday, how

52
00:02:26,360 --> 00:02:29,960
Speaker 2: to knock down on Sunday. The guy is making all

53
00:02:30,000 --> 00:02:33,080
Speaker 2: sorts of plays. I feel like he's got a really

54
00:02:33,120 --> 00:02:36,799
Speaker 2: great grasp of this, so in practice it's not easy

55
00:02:36,840 --> 00:02:39,880
Speaker 2: for him, but he's making plays. He's finding ways to

56
00:02:39,919 --> 00:02:43,919
Speaker 2: make plays. And the linebacking corps is pretty thick here,

57
00:02:44,080 --> 00:02:47,120
Speaker 2: particularly since you're only gonna play two guys for seventy

58
00:02:47,160 --> 00:02:49,080
Speaker 2: eighty percent of the time because you're a nickel all

59
00:02:49,120 --> 00:02:51,720
Speaker 2: the time. Blake Cashman is going to make it a

60
00:02:51,800 --> 00:02:54,120
Speaker 2: really tough cut. I think he makes this team, but

61
00:02:54,280 --> 00:02:56,280
Speaker 2: that means names, you know, have got to go. So

62
00:02:56,280 --> 00:02:57,840
Speaker 2: I don't know how it's all gonna shake out, but

63
00:02:58,040 --> 00:02:58,919
Speaker 2: that's my first start.

64
00:02:59,080 --> 00:03:01,440
Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm with you, you know what, I'm gonna follow

65
00:03:01,440 --> 00:03:05,920
Speaker 1: you up with a linebacker. And I didn't get a

66
00:03:05,960 --> 00:03:10,040
Speaker 1: chance to watch him completely today in pads, but I

67
00:03:10,080 --> 00:03:12,080
Speaker 1: did see him pop a couple times, and that tells

68
00:03:12,080 --> 00:03:15,400
Speaker 1: me something. And he's running with the ones too, which

69
00:03:15,480 --> 00:03:22,440
Speaker 1: is pretty impressive. Henry Toatoa. There's a play today Monday

70
00:03:22,680 --> 00:03:25,280
Speaker 1: toss play Damian Pierce to the right side right. I

71
00:03:25,320 --> 00:03:27,280
Speaker 1: can't remember what kind of concept it was. I don't

72
00:03:27,280 --> 00:03:29,400
Speaker 1: know if his pin and pull or outside zone like,

73
00:03:29,680 --> 00:03:32,440
Speaker 1: I don't know, but there's all kinds of chaos. And

74
00:03:32,480 --> 00:03:34,280
Speaker 1: so he's at the mic backer, so he's right over

75
00:03:34,320 --> 00:03:37,160
Speaker 1: the center and this play hits wide to the right,

76
00:03:37,320 --> 00:03:41,400
Speaker 1: to his left, and I'm telling you, he somehow. I

77
00:03:41,440 --> 00:03:43,480
Speaker 1: saw this up on the I saw it live. I'm like,

78
00:03:44,080 --> 00:03:47,920
Speaker 1: Totoa tagged off on him, sent to tackling. Where did

79
00:03:47,920 --> 00:03:50,160
Speaker 1: he come from? Like, wait, he's at mike backer right now.

80
00:03:50,200 --> 00:03:51,560
Speaker 1: So I look up on the video board and I

81
00:03:51,600 --> 00:03:55,640
Speaker 1: watched the play again. I'm like, holy cow, he just

82
00:03:56,000 --> 00:04:00,160
Speaker 1: hell bent, just straight lined it through all the chaos

83
00:04:01,040 --> 00:04:04,720
Speaker 1: somehow didn't hit anybody found. It was like it was

84
00:04:04,760 --> 00:04:06,800
Speaker 1: like a path just opened up and he's followed it

85
00:04:06,840 --> 00:04:08,280
Speaker 1: and banged right at the end of that path was

86
00:04:08,320 --> 00:04:11,200
Speaker 1: Damian Pierce the football and he tagged off on him,

87
00:04:11,200 --> 00:04:15,480
Speaker 1: and I thought, whoa, that was impressive. And he's done

88
00:04:15,520 --> 00:04:17,600
Speaker 1: that a number of times where the speed gets there,

89
00:04:17,600 --> 00:04:20,520
Speaker 1: he gets guys lined up I'm going Henry toto. I'm

90
00:04:20,560 --> 00:04:22,880
Speaker 1: going to another rookie a little bit later, unless you

91
00:04:22,880 --> 00:04:25,280
Speaker 1: steal him, which you can, but I'm not telling you

92
00:04:25,320 --> 00:04:28,040
Speaker 1: who it is. But Henry TOTOA has been all kinds

93
00:04:28,080 --> 00:04:31,160
Speaker 1: of impressive. I don't know what this means, whether he starts,

94
00:04:31,240 --> 00:04:34,080
Speaker 1: whether he's just special teams, whatever, but I'll tell you this,

95
00:04:34,120 --> 00:04:35,800
Speaker 1: he's making an impact on his team this year in

96
00:04:35,800 --> 00:04:36,680
Speaker 1: some way, shape or form.

97
00:04:37,120 --> 00:04:40,200
Speaker 2: All Right, I'm gonna go next, going to the offensive side.

98
00:04:40,240 --> 00:04:42,800
Speaker 2: We can bounce around here, okay, And I'm gonna go

99
00:04:42,880 --> 00:04:44,320
Speaker 2: with a familiar name.

100
00:04:44,480 --> 00:04:45,320
Speaker 1: But bear with me.

101
00:04:45,720 --> 00:04:49,000
Speaker 2: Damian Pierce, all right, And I know, oh the running

102
00:04:49,120 --> 00:04:52,880
Speaker 2: the running lanes haven't been there all the time without pads,

103
00:04:53,200 --> 00:04:55,440
Speaker 2: with pads, it's Damian Pierce.

104
00:04:55,640 --> 00:04:57,360
Speaker 1: He's gonna get his just.

105
00:04:57,400 --> 00:05:01,679
Speaker 2: Waight lights go on, slight sliver of daylight type hole.

106
00:05:01,800 --> 00:05:04,080
Speaker 2: He runs through it and creates a bigger one and

107
00:05:04,200 --> 00:05:07,760
Speaker 2: makes an impression on the defender whoever decides to meet him.

108
00:05:07,960 --> 00:05:11,480
Speaker 2: The angry run specialist, Damian Pierce. But I bring him

109
00:05:11,560 --> 00:05:15,440
Speaker 2: up because I got a feeling in this offense they're

110
00:05:15,440 --> 00:05:17,640
Speaker 2: gonna be throwing him the ball. And I'm not saying

111
00:05:17,640 --> 00:05:20,320
Speaker 2: ten times a game, Johnny. But it's gonna come in handy,

112
00:05:20,480 --> 00:05:23,040
Speaker 2: especially if you're playing a young quarterback. If you know

113
00:05:23,080 --> 00:05:24,840
Speaker 2: what I mean, You're gonna swing it out to Pierce.

114
00:05:25,200 --> 00:05:28,480
Speaker 2: He is gonna make plays in space. I know they

115
00:05:28,560 --> 00:05:30,360
Speaker 2: are making well. They haven't told me, but I can

116
00:05:30,440 --> 00:05:32,919
Speaker 2: see it with my own eyes, a concerted effort to

117
00:05:32,960 --> 00:05:34,920
Speaker 2: get him the ball in the passing game. Get them

118
00:05:34,920 --> 00:05:37,000
Speaker 2: the ball so we can match up on safeties and

119
00:05:37,200 --> 00:05:39,400
Speaker 2: whoever else might try to cover him on the edge

120
00:05:39,640 --> 00:05:42,760
Speaker 2: and just make Hey that way instead of having to

121
00:05:42,800 --> 00:05:45,320
Speaker 2: pound his body between the tackles all the time like

122
00:05:45,440 --> 00:05:47,120
Speaker 2: he did last year. This is gonna be fun to

123
00:05:47,160 --> 00:05:48,600
Speaker 2: watch Damian Pierce through the air.

124
00:05:49,200 --> 00:05:51,080
Speaker 1: Okay, you want the class of twenty twenty two.

125
00:05:51,800 --> 00:05:52,320
Speaker 4: I like that.

126
00:05:53,680 --> 00:05:57,840
Speaker 1: I'm gonna go with that same class, and I'm going

127
00:05:57,920 --> 00:06:03,160
Speaker 1: with former second round. I'm gonna go Jalen Petrie. I

128
00:06:03,279 --> 00:06:06,880
Speaker 1: think he's playing football now at a level he didn't

129
00:06:06,920 --> 00:06:10,640
Speaker 1: even approach his rookie I know it's training camp. I

130
00:06:10,640 --> 00:06:12,080
Speaker 1: get it. That's kind of the point we're picking our

131
00:06:12,120 --> 00:06:16,320
Speaker 1: three stars of training camp. He is around the football

132
00:06:17,600 --> 00:06:20,160
Speaker 1: all the time. There's no better way to put it.

133
00:06:20,600 --> 00:06:24,560
Speaker 1: He reads it, he sees it he goes today. There's

134
00:06:24,760 --> 00:06:27,520
Speaker 1: so many plays today. And by the way, first day

135
00:06:27,520 --> 00:06:30,240
Speaker 1: in pads, he's miked up. So we'll have the micd

136
00:06:30,279 --> 00:06:32,120
Speaker 1: up for you, Houston Texas dot Com. I don't know,

137
00:06:32,320 --> 00:06:34,760
Speaker 1: I know our guys in the in the in the

138
00:06:34,880 --> 00:06:37,000
Speaker 1: video department will put that together. SuDS and the guys

139
00:06:37,080 --> 00:06:39,000
Speaker 1: up there will have something great. So it may not

140
00:06:39,120 --> 00:06:40,839
Speaker 1: be today, but just be on the lookout for it.

141
00:06:40,920 --> 00:06:43,240
Speaker 1: Jalen Petrie micdup is gonna be awesome. It's just because

142
00:06:43,240 --> 00:06:47,400
Speaker 1: it's Jalen. But they ran zone read. It's the first

143
00:06:47,400 --> 00:06:49,479
Speaker 1: time I've seen the offense run a true zone read

144
00:06:50,560 --> 00:06:52,560
Speaker 1: and CJ kept it. They're down on the goal line

145
00:06:52,600 --> 00:06:54,440
Speaker 1: and CJ kept it the first time I've seen it

146
00:06:54,520 --> 00:06:56,479
Speaker 1: five days, the first time I've seen them run zone read.

147
00:06:57,400 --> 00:07:01,400
Speaker 1: And the defense is pretty much fooled except for one guy.

148
00:07:01,880 --> 00:07:05,360
Speaker 1: He Jalen Petrie is right there. He watches and I

149
00:07:05,600 --> 00:07:10,240
Speaker 1: Stroud the whole way locks in and as CJ starts

150
00:07:10,280 --> 00:07:12,920
Speaker 1: to run, Jalen is literally tagging off on his hip

151
00:07:12,960 --> 00:07:16,200
Speaker 1: two yards deep in the backfield. I just I'm floored.

152
00:07:16,560 --> 00:07:20,760
Speaker 1: But he has made every play you could possibly make.

153
00:07:21,080 --> 00:07:24,160
Speaker 1: He is so in command of his game. He has

154
00:07:24,200 --> 00:07:27,760
Speaker 1: become a leader. I think the guys love him. I

155
00:07:27,800 --> 00:07:30,080
Speaker 1: thought it was interesting being in Dallas for Big twelve

156
00:07:30,080 --> 00:07:33,000
Speaker 1: media days and I've known this, but to actually see

157
00:07:33,040 --> 00:07:38,440
Speaker 1: it in play. When I mentioned I was with the Texans, Oh,

158
00:07:39,080 --> 00:07:39,720
Speaker 1: how's Jalen?

159
00:07:39,920 --> 00:07:40,040
Speaker 5: Like?

160
00:07:40,320 --> 00:07:44,040
Speaker 1: The love Baylor people had for Jalen was unbelievable. And

161
00:07:44,080 --> 00:07:46,960
Speaker 1: when I asked, you know, I just go there and

162
00:07:47,080 --> 00:07:48,760
Speaker 1: I'm just trying to give whatever interviews I can. I

163
00:07:48,760 --> 00:07:50,760
Speaker 1: know Dan Holgerson, so it's easy enough to get an

164
00:07:50,760 --> 00:07:52,920
Speaker 1: interview with him. I don't know David Andertll. I've never

165
00:07:52,920 --> 00:07:55,640
Speaker 1: met him, but I went to the Baylor sid and

166
00:07:55,680 --> 00:07:58,320
Speaker 1: I met him at pro day and I just asked him.

167
00:07:58,360 --> 00:08:00,000
Speaker 1: I said, is there any way that I could get

168
00:08:00,320 --> 00:08:03,320
Speaker 1: couch youran to talk about Jalen Petrie. Absolutely, I'll make

169
00:08:03,360 --> 00:08:06,080
Speaker 1: it happen like it was Jalen Petrie. It wasn't just

170
00:08:06,120 --> 00:08:08,520
Speaker 1: to talk. He was getting get him to talk about

171
00:08:08,560 --> 00:08:11,360
Speaker 1: Jayen Petrie. And I asked coach one question. He gave

172
00:08:11,360 --> 00:08:15,800
Speaker 1: me five minutes, I mean, and we talked afterwards. He

173
00:08:16,000 --> 00:08:18,160
Speaker 1: is playing at a level right now that I don't

174
00:08:18,200 --> 00:08:20,000
Speaker 1: remember even seeing play as a rookie. You know it

175
00:08:20,040 --> 00:08:22,120
Speaker 1: means a rookie. There's so many things going on. I

176
00:08:22,160 --> 00:08:23,880
Speaker 1: just can't wait to see what he and Jimmy Ward

177
00:08:23,880 --> 00:08:26,360
Speaker 1: are doing together. But I'm gonna go Jayalen Petrie all right,

178
00:08:26,440 --> 00:08:27,200
Speaker 1: my third guy.

179
00:08:27,280 --> 00:08:30,200
Speaker 2: Okay, Look, we've all heard about Tank Dell, and for

180
00:08:30,240 --> 00:08:32,280
Speaker 2: good reason. Tank looks really good out there. We talked

181
00:08:32,280 --> 00:08:34,240
Speaker 2: about his professionalism this morning.

182
00:08:34,400 --> 00:08:36,840
Speaker 1: Yep. But I'm gonna point to another rookie here. Oh,

183
00:08:36,920 --> 00:08:38,760
Speaker 1: you're stealing my guy. Sorry, that's okay.

184
00:08:38,920 --> 00:08:45,760
Speaker 2: Xavier Hutchinson has been impossible to ignore. This player has

185
00:08:45,880 --> 00:08:49,000
Speaker 2: made lots of plays in camp so far. I'm talking

186
00:08:49,040 --> 00:08:52,520
Speaker 2: deep balls, I'm talking nice patterns. This is a player

187
00:08:52,520 --> 00:08:55,120
Speaker 2: who caught one hundred and seven passes last year. He

188
00:08:55,240 --> 00:08:58,960
Speaker 2: averaged almost ten catches per game, and it wasn't like

189
00:08:59,000 --> 00:09:02,480
Speaker 2: it was all short stuff. He is a player and

190
00:09:02,559 --> 00:09:04,280
Speaker 2: he's gonna be one in this league. I don't know

191
00:09:04,320 --> 00:09:06,400
Speaker 2: how he fits in how many I can't make all

192
00:09:06,440 --> 00:09:10,679
Speaker 2: those predictions, but it's a no brainer that he survives

193
00:09:10,720 --> 00:09:13,560
Speaker 2: the cut, that he's on the squad, and we'll see

194
00:09:13,559 --> 00:09:15,760
Speaker 2: how he fits in ultimately. I love that he and

195
00:09:15,840 --> 00:09:18,040
Speaker 2: Tank are two and three in the NCAA last year.

196
00:09:18,120 --> 00:09:21,960
Speaker 2: In receptions and you have these really productive guys on

197
00:09:22,000 --> 00:09:24,000
Speaker 2: your team and they're showing why this is.

198
00:09:23,960 --> 00:09:24,760
Speaker 1: Football to him.

199
00:09:24,840 --> 00:09:27,120
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's a tougher level of football, there's no doubt

200
00:09:27,160 --> 00:09:30,160
Speaker 2: it's a pro level. But he's out there playing football,

201
00:09:30,240 --> 00:09:33,720
Speaker 2: Johnny and learning this offense and running crisp, precise routes,

202
00:09:33,960 --> 00:09:34,600
Speaker 2: good hands.

203
00:09:34,720 --> 00:09:39,440
Speaker 1: I love Xavier Hutchinson. Show me more Sunday one on ones.

204
00:09:39,840 --> 00:09:43,880
Speaker 1: Deep ball touchdown today, Mills route, which is one of

205
00:09:43,920 --> 00:09:46,280
Speaker 1: my favorite routes. And it's not named Mills because of

206
00:09:46,360 --> 00:09:49,160
Speaker 1: Davis Mills. It's named Mills because it was Ernie Mills

207
00:09:49,200 --> 00:09:51,280
Speaker 1: back at Florida that ran it Florida who started this

208
00:09:51,320 --> 00:09:53,760
Speaker 1: with spurry or you gotta dig with a post and

209
00:09:53,800 --> 00:09:56,160
Speaker 1: if they're in cover three, if the safety bites to dig,

210
00:09:56,240 --> 00:09:58,160
Speaker 1: throw the post. He stayed with the post. Throw a dig.

211
00:09:58,559 --> 00:10:02,360
Speaker 1: It's perfect right against cover three and Xavier're wide open. Touchdown.

212
00:10:02,960 --> 00:10:07,839
Speaker 1: Now he would not have had that touchdown if we're

213
00:10:07,840 --> 00:10:11,200
Speaker 1: playing real football because my star number three. Now this

214
00:10:11,320 --> 00:10:15,079
Speaker 1: seems easy, but if I'm being true to it, stars

215
00:10:15,240 --> 00:10:19,400
Speaker 1: in camp, we've got to mention Will Anderson Jr. Have

216
00:10:19,559 --> 00:10:21,000
Speaker 1: to he.

217
00:10:22,920 --> 00:10:23,079
Speaker 5: Mark.

218
00:10:23,200 --> 00:10:25,480
Speaker 1: I don't even know how to say this other than

219
00:10:26,040 --> 00:10:29,839
Speaker 1: those people that were arguing, who's bad value has to

220
00:10:29,920 --> 00:10:32,760
Speaker 1: the draft? You gave him ask you're talking in theory

221
00:10:32,800 --> 00:10:36,680
Speaker 1: about assets and liabilities and things. We're talking about a

222
00:10:36,800 --> 00:10:39,920
Speaker 1: dude that's going to impact this football team. It already

223
00:10:39,960 --> 00:10:43,200
Speaker 1: he already has. But from the time he sets foot

224
00:10:43,200 --> 00:10:45,320
Speaker 1: on the field wearing number fifty one jersey in a

225
00:10:45,400 --> 00:10:49,719
Speaker 1: game going forward, he will leave an impact on this

226
00:10:49,840 --> 00:10:53,880
Speaker 1: team everything that he does. We have not had a

227
00:10:54,000 --> 00:10:59,319
Speaker 1: dynamic defender like him in a long time. A long time,

228
00:10:59,400 --> 00:11:02,200
Speaker 1: let's just say that, a long time. It has been

229
00:11:02,240 --> 00:11:04,840
Speaker 1: a while since we've had a guy like this. And

230
00:11:05,440 --> 00:11:09,320
Speaker 1: on that throw to Hutchinson, will beat the tackle so

231
00:11:09,480 --> 00:11:12,760
Speaker 1: badly he basically bulled him off the line, shocked him

232
00:11:13,120 --> 00:11:16,480
Speaker 1: and then immediately just yanked him to the ground, ripped

233
00:11:16,480 --> 00:11:18,640
Speaker 1: through it and got around him and was tagging off

234
00:11:18,840 --> 00:11:21,240
Speaker 1: on a quarterback. I think it was Davis tagging off

235
00:11:21,240 --> 00:11:24,680
Speaker 1: on the quarterback, and the quarterback still took two shuffle

236
00:11:24,679 --> 00:11:26,319
Speaker 1: steps to throw the bout to Hutchinson. It would have

237
00:11:26,360 --> 00:11:31,920
Speaker 1: been a definite sack. But his power, his explosiveness, whether

238
00:11:31,960 --> 00:11:35,880
Speaker 1: he's playing inside, whether he's playing outside, he has just

239
00:11:35,960 --> 00:11:37,959
Speaker 1: been all that in the bag of chips again it's

240
00:11:38,040 --> 00:11:40,600
Speaker 1: training camp. But I don't know that I've seen a

241
00:11:40,640 --> 00:11:44,559
Speaker 1: guy impact from day one, like where I've just looked back.

242
00:11:44,880 --> 00:11:48,800
Speaker 1: Whoa wow, I don't think I've ever do I not here?

243
00:11:48,880 --> 00:11:51,640
Speaker 1: I mean, I mean even like if you go back

244
00:11:51,679 --> 00:11:53,800
Speaker 1: to JJ in twenty eleven, like you could see JJ

245
00:11:53,880 --> 00:11:57,320
Speaker 1: could play, but he didn't see that impact. You didn't

246
00:11:57,320 --> 00:11:59,760
Speaker 1: see the yes this early.

247
00:11:59,800 --> 00:12:01,720
Speaker 2: I mean you saw some yeah, but what you saw

248
00:12:01,720 --> 00:12:03,840
Speaker 2: in training camp with Watt, as I recall, was him

249
00:12:03,960 --> 00:12:06,160
Speaker 2: batting down everything he's able to get all the right

250
00:12:06,240 --> 00:12:09,280
Speaker 2: all those batdowns right, great ball sense, ball skills, all that,

251
00:12:09,960 --> 00:12:12,480
Speaker 2: and it was very notable. But the pass rush stuff

252
00:12:12,559 --> 00:12:15,000
Speaker 2: came along as we got to the postseason at twenty eleven.

253
00:12:15,040 --> 00:12:16,920
Speaker 2: And what did you say about Will Anderson and Monday

254
00:12:16,960 --> 00:12:19,360
Speaker 2: Morning Show? You said, this is a big day for

255
00:12:19,440 --> 00:12:21,280
Speaker 2: Will in pads. We'll see what he does. Well, you

256
00:12:21,280 --> 00:12:21,760
Speaker 2: saw what he did.

257
00:12:21,880 --> 00:12:23,440
Speaker 1: Yeah, we saw what he did and it was it

258
00:12:23,480 --> 00:12:27,320
Speaker 1: was pretty darn impressive, no doubt, also impressive. The General

259
00:12:27,600 --> 00:12:29,880
Speaker 1: JOm McClain, what did you have to say this morning?

260
00:12:29,960 --> 00:12:31,920
Speaker 1: We asked him about all things going on with the

261
00:12:31,960 --> 00:12:33,240
Speaker 1: Texans and the NFL.

262
00:12:33,720 --> 00:12:36,800
Speaker 2: We've been here for all the coaches. Of course, some

263
00:12:36,920 --> 00:12:41,160
Speaker 2: coaches say a little bit less about rookies. Tamiko Ryans,

264
00:12:41,160 --> 00:12:44,160
Speaker 2: He'll talk about anybody you know behind closed doors.

265
00:12:44,360 --> 00:12:46,200
Speaker 1: He's coaching them hard. He's got Bran.

266
00:12:46,240 --> 00:12:49,480
Speaker 5: Wouldn't acknowledge a rookie, Yeah, he use the drop Ben rookies,

267
00:12:49,600 --> 00:12:51,920
Speaker 5: No nothing, And if you ask him about a player,

268
00:12:51,920 --> 00:12:53,120
Speaker 5: you talk about a position.

269
00:12:53,800 --> 00:12:54,040
Speaker 1: Yep.

270
00:12:54,120 --> 00:12:56,520
Speaker 5: I'm doing a column on Tank and I got a

271
00:12:56,559 --> 00:12:59,480
Speaker 5: call him up right now CJ. Stroudsports Radio six ten

272
00:12:59,559 --> 00:13:02,800
Speaker 5: dot com, and I can't wait to get Tank out there.

273
00:13:03,840 --> 00:13:06,120
Speaker 5: I think we've been requesting him a long time. They're

274
00:13:06,120 --> 00:13:09,920
Speaker 5: worried about what he's going to say because he's pretty outspoken.

275
00:13:10,000 --> 00:13:14,000
Speaker 5: He's funny, he's honest, and I love it. I did

276
00:13:14,000 --> 00:13:17,520
Speaker 5: a column on him for Gallery Sports when we were

277
00:13:17,600 --> 00:13:21,000
Speaker 5: at the Combat and about how much he wanted to

278
00:13:21,000 --> 00:13:22,080
Speaker 5: be drafted.

279
00:13:21,679 --> 00:13:23,840
Speaker 3: By the Texans, and I said, well.

280
00:13:23,880 --> 00:13:26,720
Speaker 5: You know, the odds are against that, but he really

281
00:13:26,760 --> 00:13:30,600
Speaker 5: wanted to do it because Houston's has adopted town and

282
00:13:30,640 --> 00:13:31,600
Speaker 5: he's pumped.

283
00:13:31,800 --> 00:13:32,000
Speaker 3: Yah.

284
00:13:32,040 --> 00:13:35,840
Speaker 5: I'm sure y'all saw those videos his workout guru put

285
00:13:35,840 --> 00:13:38,840
Speaker 5: out about him all through the offs, through the time off,

286
00:13:39,160 --> 00:13:42,920
Speaker 5: he ain't taking time off and doing working and doing

287
00:13:42,960 --> 00:13:46,240
Speaker 5: the ropes. He was working his tail off. He's the

288
00:13:46,280 --> 00:13:49,400
Speaker 5: only receiver they got who's capable of scoring every time

289
00:13:49,440 --> 00:13:51,920
Speaker 5: he touches the ball, and I just want to see

290
00:13:51,960 --> 00:13:55,079
Speaker 5: him get his hands on the ball because with his quickness,

291
00:13:55,160 --> 00:13:58,320
Speaker 5: his speed, you know his size. They listed him five

292
00:13:58,320 --> 00:14:01,120
Speaker 5: to ten, he's five eight. He didn't he didn't grow

293
00:14:01,160 --> 00:14:02,920
Speaker 5: two inches since the combine.

294
00:14:03,160 --> 00:14:07,360
Speaker 3: But he's so quick. He reminds me of like a nat.

295
00:14:08,920 --> 00:14:11,280
Speaker 1: In a good way. General who's gonna lead the team

296
00:14:11,320 --> 00:14:12,439
Speaker 1: in receptions?

297
00:14:12,840 --> 00:14:15,640
Speaker 5: I think Robert Woods, well, a lot of people think

298
00:14:15,720 --> 00:14:16,559
Speaker 5: Dalton Schultz.

299
00:14:16,600 --> 00:14:19,920
Speaker 3: I just think that Woods will have a.

300
00:14:19,840 --> 00:14:23,240
Speaker 5: Connection off the field that he's been working on since

301
00:14:23,240 --> 00:14:27,160
Speaker 5: Stroud got here, that Stroud's gonna feel really comfortable with

302
00:14:27,240 --> 00:14:33,520
Speaker 5: him and knows that in clutch situations, Tinkdale, John Maggie,

303
00:14:34,360 --> 00:14:36,800
Speaker 5: Xavier Hutchinson, they may not be in the right spot.

304
00:14:37,360 --> 00:14:39,880
Speaker 5: You know, they don't have a lot of experience. He'll know,

305
00:14:40,080 --> 00:14:43,400
Speaker 5: Robert Woods, if he's supposed to be ten yard out,

306
00:14:43,440 --> 00:14:45,800
Speaker 5: he'll be a ten yard out, not a nine and

307
00:14:45,800 --> 00:14:48,120
Speaker 5: a half or ten and a half. If he's supposed

308
00:14:48,120 --> 00:14:52,120
Speaker 5: to cut right, he'll cut right, not left. And I

309
00:14:52,120 --> 00:14:54,600
Speaker 5: remember Warren Moon used to say with the Oilers, he

310
00:14:54,640 --> 00:14:58,880
Speaker 5: had so many receivers that would they might run it

311
00:14:58,960 --> 00:15:01,480
Speaker 5: right and they might not. So he always knew Drew

312
00:15:01,600 --> 00:15:03,960
Speaker 5: Hill was going to do it exactly right. And I

313
00:15:04,080 --> 00:15:06,520
Speaker 5: remember I think about that with Robert Woods second year

314
00:15:06,600 --> 00:15:10,760
Speaker 5: removed from that torn ECL just turned thirty one. I'm

315
00:15:10,760 --> 00:15:13,680
Speaker 5: really fired up about him because I heard such great

316
00:15:13,720 --> 00:15:16,600
Speaker 5: things about him from the Rams and then the Titans

317
00:15:16,680 --> 00:15:19,280
Speaker 5: last year, even though he was coming off that torn

318
00:15:19,320 --> 00:15:23,160
Speaker 5: ACL and came back before six months. I think the

319
00:15:23,160 --> 00:15:25,680
Speaker 5: Texans is going to see the best that he's got

320
00:15:25,680 --> 00:15:26,040
Speaker 5: to give.

321
00:15:26,720 --> 00:15:29,480
Speaker 1: General the quarterbacks, the three of them, I said, case

322
00:15:29,520 --> 00:15:31,680
Speaker 1: Keenum has kind of gone into gunslinger mode. We've seen

323
00:15:31,720 --> 00:15:35,360
Speaker 1: good and bad from Davis and from CJ. How what

324
00:15:35,360 --> 00:15:37,080
Speaker 1: do you make of the three quarterbacks and how they've

325
00:15:37,080 --> 00:15:40,600
Speaker 1: looked thus far seemingly because there's no pads on, can't

326
00:15:40,600 --> 00:15:42,680
Speaker 1: we talk about the big guys. Let's talk about the quarterbacks.

327
00:15:42,920 --> 00:15:45,840
Speaker 5: The I mean, we all know Straud's going to be

328
00:15:45,880 --> 00:15:50,560
Speaker 5: the starter, and yesterday was the first time when we've

329
00:15:50,680 --> 00:15:54,960
Speaker 5: asked Amiko about him and we've not brought up He's

330
00:15:55,040 --> 00:15:57,640
Speaker 5: not gone into the other quarterbacks. I told him when

331
00:15:57,680 --> 00:15:59,800
Speaker 5: he came in here. We got Stroud coming when he

332
00:15:59,840 --> 00:16:02,880
Speaker 5: did ask you about Strout, so we asked him about Stroud.

333
00:16:02,920 --> 00:16:05,840
Speaker 5: He's really good talking about him. He's been talking about

334
00:16:05,840 --> 00:16:09,600
Speaker 5: will Anderson all the time like that, but Stroud he's

335
00:16:09,640 --> 00:16:14,120
Speaker 5: been careful. They want Stroud to separate themselves from Mills,

336
00:16:14,560 --> 00:16:18,160
Speaker 5: and he's getting there. And so Dimiko, what he said

337
00:16:18,200 --> 00:16:21,120
Speaker 5: about him was impressive in every way.

338
00:16:21,760 --> 00:16:24,440
Speaker 3: And Stroud missed. Everybody miss his passes.

339
00:16:24,880 --> 00:16:26,840
Speaker 5: I see a lot of time look at I look

340
00:16:26,880 --> 00:16:29,920
Speaker 5: around the league, and if some quarterback highly rated has

341
00:16:29,960 --> 00:16:32,080
Speaker 5: a bad throw, the media acts like he's not gonna

342
00:16:32,080 --> 00:16:34,200
Speaker 5: be any good. You know, all of them are gonna

343
00:16:34,240 --> 00:16:37,880
Speaker 5: have bad throws, and they don't care. They want what

344
00:16:38,040 --> 00:16:42,560
Speaker 5: they want to see. Draw Johnson, then Bobby Sloweg and

345
00:16:42,640 --> 00:16:44,440
Speaker 5: to Miko's what does he do on the next one?

346
00:16:44,880 --> 00:16:46,080
Speaker 3: How does he bounce.

347
00:16:45,880 --> 00:16:49,240
Speaker 5: Back from an interception? And there's nothing not to like

348
00:16:49,320 --> 00:16:53,040
Speaker 5: about Stroud. He was so impressive at the podium yesterday.

349
00:16:53,120 --> 00:16:56,600
Speaker 5: I watched him while he was waiting going around to families.

350
00:16:57,000 --> 00:17:01,120
Speaker 5: I was told that a team function weks ago that

351
00:17:01,280 --> 00:17:06,160
Speaker 5: he made it went around every table where there were

352
00:17:06,200 --> 00:17:09,720
Speaker 5: players and families and introduced themselves to the kids talk

353
00:17:09,800 --> 00:17:12,159
Speaker 5: to them. That's one of the ways you build up

354
00:17:12,240 --> 00:17:14,040
Speaker 5: leadership behind the scenes.

355
00:17:14,640 --> 00:17:16,840
Speaker 2: Well, we're all eager to see how it all plays

356
00:17:16,880 --> 00:17:19,200
Speaker 2: out here, but as I watch this camp, we talked

357
00:17:19,200 --> 00:17:21,600
Speaker 2: to Eric Murray about it. We'll hear that conversation later.

358
00:17:22,119 --> 00:17:24,000
Speaker 2: And we asked them about all the eleven on eleven

359
00:17:24,040 --> 00:17:26,360
Speaker 2: work and very few seven on sevens. I think there's

360
00:17:26,359 --> 00:17:28,840
Speaker 2: maybe even one. I get four days of practice. I

361
00:17:28,920 --> 00:17:32,359
Speaker 2: can't keep tracking at all. But he said, you don't

362
00:17:32,359 --> 00:17:34,520
Speaker 2: get any better at football unless you're playing football. So

363
00:17:34,560 --> 00:17:36,760
Speaker 2: that's what they're trying to do. Play football and shot

364
00:17:36,760 --> 00:17:38,560
Speaker 2: of seth. We're talking about it this morning as well

365
00:17:38,600 --> 00:17:39,480
Speaker 2: pocket collapsing.

366
00:17:39,520 --> 00:17:40,960
Speaker 1: They want to make things uncomfortable.

367
00:17:41,119 --> 00:17:43,520
Speaker 2: What are your thoughts on that is they try to

368
00:17:43,640 --> 00:17:46,640
Speaker 2: simulate real game time conditions as much as they can.

369
00:17:46,720 --> 00:17:49,600
Speaker 5: You got two new coaches who are gonna call plays

370
00:17:49,640 --> 00:17:53,639
Speaker 5: Bobby Slowing to mak O Ryans. They've installed their systems,

371
00:17:54,080 --> 00:17:57,920
Speaker 5: so you're not gonna you're not gonna see what everybody

372
00:17:57,960 --> 00:17:58,280
Speaker 5: can do.

373
00:17:58,320 --> 00:17:59,920
Speaker 3: When you're doing seven on seven.

374
00:18:00,119 --> 00:18:02,760
Speaker 5: You need to do full teams on both sides of

375
00:18:02,800 --> 00:18:05,800
Speaker 5: the ball. You've got to see who's making the mental mistakes.

376
00:18:06,080 --> 00:18:08,479
Speaker 5: You know, every player can't be coached the same. Bobby

377
00:18:08,480 --> 00:18:12,840
Speaker 5: slok knows that something that we're going to interview to

378
00:18:13,000 --> 00:18:16,879
Speaker 5: coordinators tomorrow. I believe I can't wait to ask Slowy

379
00:18:16,880 --> 00:18:19,040
Speaker 5: it because I've seen this in all my years covering

380
00:18:19,040 --> 00:18:21,879
Speaker 5: the NFL. A lot of first time coordinators want to

381
00:18:21,920 --> 00:18:24,639
Speaker 5: make it too complicated. They want to come in and

382
00:18:25,040 --> 00:18:28,720
Speaker 5: show everybody, man, I'm really smart. They made the key

383
00:18:28,800 --> 00:18:31,520
Speaker 5: is you can have a ten inch stick playbook with

384
00:18:31,560 --> 00:18:34,480
Speaker 5: The key is to reduce it to you know, each

385
00:18:34,600 --> 00:18:38,280
Speaker 5: player can do what's required of him. And I'm assuming

386
00:18:38,320 --> 00:18:41,600
Speaker 5: Bobby's around Kyle Shaney long enough nine years that he

387
00:18:41,680 --> 00:18:44,720
Speaker 5: knows that Kyle's got a complicated system and we're not

388
00:18:44,800 --> 00:18:46,720
Speaker 5: going to know. But it's not going to be the

389
00:18:46,760 --> 00:18:50,160
Speaker 5: same system. You know, Bobby Sloan's been thinking, now if

390
00:18:50,240 --> 00:18:52,560
Speaker 5: I if I get to call plays, I'm going to

391
00:18:52,640 --> 00:18:55,240
Speaker 5: do this with that with that position, I'm going to

392
00:18:55,320 --> 00:18:57,959
Speaker 5: do that. And so we're not going to know unless

393
00:18:58,000 --> 00:19:00,199
Speaker 5: you watch all the forty nine ers and now you

394
00:19:00,240 --> 00:19:04,600
Speaker 5: watch taxsons. But even Striud mitched yesterday his nuances Slow

395
00:19:04,600 --> 00:19:06,800
Speaker 5: it's nuances.

396
00:19:05,880 --> 00:19:06,960
Speaker 3: That he's putting in there.

397
00:19:07,480 --> 00:19:09,919
Speaker 5: So I think that's one reason we see that so

398
00:19:10,080 --> 00:19:12,240
Speaker 5: much is they got to look at the whole picture.

399
00:19:12,240 --> 00:19:14,760
Speaker 5: And that's why those joint practices are going to be

400
00:19:14,880 --> 00:19:17,880
Speaker 5: so good for the coaches. You know, Matt burg knew

401
00:19:17,960 --> 00:19:21,320
Speaker 5: coming in here. Demiko's gonna call the defenses. Dimiko did

402
00:19:21,320 --> 00:19:23,240
Speaker 5: a great job the last two years. Why would he

403
00:19:23,320 --> 00:19:25,760
Speaker 5: not do it? Eventually he may turned over to Matt.

404
00:19:26,040 --> 00:19:29,560
Speaker 5: Matt fixing the game plan. He doesn't mind telling Dimko

405
00:19:30,119 --> 00:19:33,000
Speaker 5: something he thinks or if he disagrees to, Miko can

406
00:19:33,359 --> 00:19:35,439
Speaker 5: handle it. That's the point of being a good coach.

407
00:19:35,480 --> 00:19:39,240
Speaker 5: So uh, it makes it better out here to watch them.

408
00:19:39,280 --> 00:19:43,640
Speaker 1: In eleven and eleven, Week two, Texans play here home

409
00:19:43,680 --> 00:19:47,600
Speaker 1: opener against the Inneapolis Colts. General will Jonathan Taylor be

410
00:19:48,240 --> 00:19:51,120
Speaker 1: wearing number twenty eight for the Colts in that football game?

411
00:19:52,160 --> 00:19:55,560
Speaker 5: Well, they got a really ugly situation there and that's

412
00:19:55,560 --> 00:19:59,800
Speaker 5: too bad, right, and you feel coming off is worse.

413
00:20:00,960 --> 00:20:03,280
Speaker 5: And it's last year of his contract, was his second

414
00:20:03,359 --> 00:20:08,680
Speaker 5: round pick. He wants an extension. They know they get

415
00:20:08,760 --> 00:20:13,960
Speaker 5: franchise him for two more years, so he has no leverage.

416
00:20:14,560 --> 00:20:17,080
Speaker 5: There's thing about putting him a non football injury because

417
00:20:17,600 --> 00:20:19,359
Speaker 5: they say he told him he had a back injury,

418
00:20:19,359 --> 00:20:21,880
Speaker 5: he said. He never said that one of the things

419
00:20:21,920 --> 00:20:24,160
Speaker 5: you worry about. They're not going to trade him. Who's

420
00:20:24,200 --> 00:20:25,720
Speaker 5: gonna give him sixteen million a year?

421
00:20:25,800 --> 00:20:26,240
Speaker 3: Nobody?

422
00:20:27,119 --> 00:20:31,399
Speaker 5: So he better stay there, play his tail off half

423
00:20:31,480 --> 00:20:33,800
Speaker 5: a kind of year he had two years ago. He's

424
00:20:33,800 --> 00:20:36,080
Speaker 5: still not going anywhere. Then they're going to franchise him.

425
00:20:36,119 --> 00:20:39,520
Speaker 5: It's it's a tough situation. But once you figure it

426
00:20:39,560 --> 00:20:42,639
Speaker 5: out and your agent tells you you got no leverage

427
00:20:43,160 --> 00:20:46,520
Speaker 5: if you set out. He's on his rookie contract, so

428
00:20:46,600 --> 00:20:50,600
Speaker 5: he can't be find fifty thousand a day like a

429
00:20:50,680 --> 00:20:51,400
Speaker 5: veteran like to say.

430
00:20:51,480 --> 00:20:53,200
Speaker 3: Nick Bo says, and he.

431
00:20:53,160 --> 00:20:55,879
Speaker 5: Can't forgive Remember when Dwayne Brown missed all those checks

432
00:20:55,880 --> 00:20:59,159
Speaker 5: and can't he lose like two to four million dollars selling.

433
00:20:59,200 --> 00:21:01,880
Speaker 2: And even though he got paid by the Seahawks next year,

434
00:21:02,000 --> 00:21:03,920
Speaker 2: but I don't think he ever.

435
00:21:03,800 --> 00:21:07,000
Speaker 1: Made back that either would be better off just sticking it.

436
00:21:06,920 --> 00:21:08,160
Speaker 3: Out and he stayed here.

437
00:21:08,600 --> 00:21:10,840
Speaker 5: Then Rick Smith would give him an extension with one

438
00:21:10,880 --> 00:21:12,760
Speaker 5: year left, which was his philosophy.

439
00:21:12,800 --> 00:21:14,840
Speaker 1: I would have changed the course of franchise history.

440
00:21:15,000 --> 00:21:18,000
Speaker 5: They would have been so I don't it's easy for

441
00:21:18,080 --> 00:21:21,320
Speaker 5: guys to talk. Now, let's see you as the footballs

442
00:21:21,320 --> 00:21:24,480
Speaker 5: to miss regular season games when you're missing your game

443
00:21:24,560 --> 00:21:28,160
Speaker 5: checks and he's on a rookie contract. Anyway, key is

444
00:21:28,200 --> 00:21:31,560
Speaker 5: can he be healthy? Yeah, so answer your question, I

445
00:21:31,600 --> 00:21:33,360
Speaker 5: must say yes, Okay.

446
00:21:33,080 --> 00:21:36,240
Speaker 2: Yeah, I agree. He'll be out there too. He's got

447
00:21:36,240 --> 00:21:38,800
Speaker 2: to be out there. I was texting with some Indianapolis

448
00:21:38,880 --> 00:21:41,119
Speaker 2: people this morning and they were like, Yep, there's no

449
00:21:41,200 --> 00:21:42,200
Speaker 2: shortage of drama.

450
00:21:43,240 --> 00:21:46,360
Speaker 5: Jim Mersey didn't help at all. You know, Jim shouldn't

451
00:21:46,400 --> 00:21:49,840
Speaker 5: be just shouldn't be texting. He shouldn't be talking to

452
00:21:49,960 --> 00:21:53,040
Speaker 5: media constantly. It's great for the media. But that quote

453
00:21:53,080 --> 00:21:55,680
Speaker 5: he had where if he and Taylor died the next day,

454
00:21:55,880 --> 00:21:59,879
Speaker 5: oh canfl wouldn't change. It's still by the same. You know,

455
00:22:00,080 --> 00:22:03,800
Speaker 5: what's he thinking on stuff like that? And Chris Ballard,

456
00:22:04,119 --> 00:22:08,280
Speaker 5: who's been very positive about every kind of drama they

457
00:22:08,280 --> 00:22:11,199
Speaker 5: have there, all of a sudden he's talking about it

458
00:22:11,240 --> 00:22:14,280
Speaker 5: makes me think Erses talked to Ballard and say, look,

459
00:22:14,320 --> 00:22:16,520
Speaker 5: this is the message we want to put out, and.

460
00:22:16,480 --> 00:22:17,400
Speaker 1: It's not good.

461
00:22:17,680 --> 00:22:20,360
Speaker 3: He should be praising the heck out of him every day.

462
00:22:20,680 --> 00:22:23,160
Speaker 2: If I made you tzar of the NFL, you could

463
00:22:23,200 --> 00:22:24,360
Speaker 2: change even the CBA.

464
00:22:24,480 --> 00:22:26,160
Speaker 1: What would you do for the running backs or about

465
00:22:26,160 --> 00:22:26,720
Speaker 1: the running backs?

466
00:22:26,760 --> 00:22:28,960
Speaker 3: Do you know anything about the running backs? Why should

467
00:22:28,960 --> 00:22:30,479
Speaker 3: they do something for the running backs?

468
00:22:30,800 --> 00:22:33,120
Speaker 5: You know, you'd like to see quarterbacks make, not make

469
00:22:33,520 --> 00:22:37,560
Speaker 5: fifty million a year, you know, that's that's one thing. Eventually,

470
00:22:38,280 --> 00:22:41,000
Speaker 5: will quarterbacks who get that kind of money not play

471
00:22:41,040 --> 00:22:43,679
Speaker 5: well enough to earn it? And then they'll think twice

472
00:22:43,720 --> 00:22:48,440
Speaker 5: about it? Problem is a franchise tags for quarterbacks are astronomical, right,

473
00:22:48,480 --> 00:22:51,360
Speaker 5: and so I don't ever see anything being done for.

474
00:22:51,359 --> 00:22:55,560
Speaker 3: A specific position. But I don't blame running backs.

475
00:22:55,560 --> 00:22:58,280
Speaker 5: When you see a tidi end who's barely beat it

476
00:22:58,320 --> 00:22:59,840
Speaker 5: better in mediocre getting more.

477
00:22:59,760 --> 00:23:04,600
Speaker 2: Than I wish, they would reduce the compensation needed to

478
00:23:04,720 --> 00:23:06,760
Speaker 2: obtain a franchise tagged player.

479
00:23:07,040 --> 00:23:09,679
Speaker 1: Match it to the salary. Yeah, that's it, to the salary.

480
00:23:09,800 --> 00:23:10,280
Speaker 3: Let them be.

481
00:23:10,480 --> 00:23:13,359
Speaker 5: I'll be free agents after three years, and then if

482
00:23:13,400 --> 00:23:16,560
Speaker 5: you franchise him two, that's five. They still got some

483
00:23:16,680 --> 00:23:19,000
Speaker 5: years left, you know, used to I saw the other

484
00:23:19,080 --> 00:23:22,000
Speaker 5: day and Ladani and Thomason ran for eighteen hundred yards

485
00:23:22,040 --> 00:23:24,920
Speaker 5: in his eighth year. Now they think, and he carried

486
00:23:24,920 --> 00:23:26,840
Speaker 5: the ball a whole lot more than they do today

487
00:23:27,359 --> 00:23:30,159
Speaker 5: that they're freaking out If a player's going into his

488
00:23:30,560 --> 00:23:31,240
Speaker 5: eight season.

489
00:23:31,320 --> 00:23:34,120
Speaker 3: There's a lot of running backs who've played well.

490
00:23:33,920 --> 00:23:37,000
Speaker 5: In their eighth nineteenth seasons, but now they act like

491
00:23:37,000 --> 00:23:38,280
Speaker 5: they're ready for the old folk song.

492
00:23:38,400 --> 00:23:40,879
Speaker 1: Well, this is what I said to Mark the other day. Well,

493
00:23:40,920 --> 00:23:42,760
Speaker 1: I can't remember, I said to the marker work I

494
00:23:42,800 --> 00:23:44,840
Speaker 1: was talking about it. Oh, I was up Buffalo, I

495
00:23:44,840 --> 00:23:46,680
Speaker 1: was talking about That's what it was asked me. I said,

496
00:23:46,960 --> 00:23:50,120
Speaker 1: learn I catch passes. If you can't catch pass then

497
00:23:50,760 --> 00:23:52,439
Speaker 1: you're really no good. You're a two down player. But

498
00:23:52,480 --> 00:23:54,159
Speaker 1: if you show that you can be a competent receiver

499
00:23:54,400 --> 00:23:56,600
Speaker 1: and you can play on all three downs and you

500
00:23:56,640 --> 00:23:58,560
Speaker 1: could be you could be out there on third down

501
00:23:58,560 --> 00:24:00,600
Speaker 1: with the having played on first and second down, getting

502
00:24:00,640 --> 00:24:02,760
Speaker 1: a break on the sideline and then still be effective.

503
00:24:03,040 --> 00:24:04,439
Speaker 1: You can go out there and you can be a factor.

504
00:24:04,480 --> 00:24:05,600
Speaker 1: There's no question about that.

505
00:24:05,680 --> 00:24:07,600
Speaker 2: I haven't heard this from the coaches, but based on

506
00:24:07,600 --> 00:24:09,600
Speaker 2: what you see out here, which is for the world

507
00:24:09,600 --> 00:24:11,440
Speaker 2: to see, I think Damian Pierce is going to catch

508
00:24:11,480 --> 00:24:13,679
Speaker 2: some passes this year and be a big factor in

509
00:24:13,720 --> 00:24:14,199
Speaker 2: that part of.

510
00:24:14,200 --> 00:24:18,440
Speaker 1: The game down Why not general, because.

511
00:24:18,240 --> 00:24:19,440
Speaker 3: Why do you want overworking?

512
00:24:19,640 --> 00:24:21,240
Speaker 1: Well, I don't want to overworkan team game.

513
00:24:21,280 --> 00:24:22,680
Speaker 3: But here's the thing why you.

514
00:24:23,600 --> 00:24:25,679
Speaker 2: Oh no, I love singletary, but let's just see how

515
00:24:25,720 --> 00:24:28,840
Speaker 2: it all works out. Because if here's is better with

516
00:24:28,880 --> 00:24:31,080
Speaker 2: the ball in his hands than anybody else, then on

517
00:24:31,320 --> 00:24:34,320
Speaker 2: key third downs, I don't mind him being out there

518
00:24:34,359 --> 00:24:36,680
Speaker 2: because even as a decoy, he's valuable.

519
00:24:36,720 --> 00:24:38,600
Speaker 1: This is all. This is always my take about Derek

520
00:24:38,640 --> 00:24:40,200
Speaker 1: Henry not being in the game on third down.

521
00:24:40,400 --> 00:24:43,920
Speaker 2: You're taking away a huge weapon that the defense must

522
00:24:43,960 --> 00:24:46,040
Speaker 2: be concerned about. They got to be concerned about a

523
00:24:46,040 --> 00:24:47,920
Speaker 2: handoff to Derek Henry on third and six.

524
00:24:48,119 --> 00:24:50,720
Speaker 1: But hold on, you don't have to hand the ball

525
00:24:50,960 --> 00:24:53,439
Speaker 1: to Damian Pierce on first and second down. Yeah. Know what,

526
00:24:53,520 --> 00:24:55,480
Speaker 1: You could still give him forty five plays in a game,

527
00:24:55,880 --> 00:24:58,040
Speaker 1: and you could still give him twenty touches. Yeah, but

528
00:24:58,080 --> 00:24:59,879
Speaker 1: you don't have to hammer him twenty touches between the

529
00:25:00,240 --> 00:25:00,960
Speaker 1: I give him.

530
00:25:00,880 --> 00:25:03,840
Speaker 3: The ball, throw him the ball sometimes on first down.

531
00:25:03,960 --> 00:25:06,520
Speaker 5: Hope he can get because his average per catch last

532
00:25:06,560 --> 00:25:07,359
Speaker 5: year was terrible.

533
00:25:07,640 --> 00:25:09,080
Speaker 3: But if he could do that, it was last year.

534
00:25:09,320 --> 00:25:10,840
Speaker 1: If that was last year in a different offense and

535
00:25:10,880 --> 00:25:11,760
Speaker 1: with quarterback.

536
00:25:11,640 --> 00:25:13,640
Speaker 5: He knows that if he can get, if he could

537
00:25:13,680 --> 00:25:16,600
Speaker 5: get five yards a catch on first down, that's pretty

538
00:25:16,680 --> 00:25:17,120
Speaker 5: darn good.

539
00:25:17,200 --> 00:25:19,080
Speaker 1: Right, Yeah, we'll see how it can. It takes him

540
00:25:19,080 --> 00:25:20,879
Speaker 1: away from all the big hits from the big lineman.

541
00:25:21,480 --> 00:25:25,080
Speaker 3: You know, he also looks for contact. That's not gonna change.

542
00:25:25,200 --> 00:25:27,720
Speaker 1: That's part of yeah, but it much rather him looked

543
00:25:27,720 --> 00:25:30,040
Speaker 1: for contact against a two hundred pound safety than a

544
00:25:30,080 --> 00:25:31,479
Speaker 1: three hundred pounds dexter Lawrence.

545
00:25:31,760 --> 00:25:32,800
Speaker 3: They need to get into it.

546
00:25:33,040 --> 00:25:35,520
Speaker 5: Think about when he's on the sideline, he can't get

547
00:25:35,560 --> 00:25:37,720
Speaker 5: another yard out, Just go out of general.

548
00:25:37,760 --> 00:25:38,639
Speaker 1: I know you were on Friday.

549
00:25:38,680 --> 00:25:41,840
Speaker 2: You were on Friday afternoon with RONI Clint was every Friday,

550
00:25:41,920 --> 00:25:43,919
Speaker 2: but I don't know when the Sean Payton apology was.

551
00:25:43,960 --> 00:25:45,600
Speaker 1: So just give us your take on the Sean Payton

552
00:25:45,840 --> 00:25:46,520
Speaker 1: in air quotes.

553
00:25:46,840 --> 00:25:49,360
Speaker 5: I see all these people acting like he's a genius.

554
00:25:49,440 --> 00:25:51,639
Speaker 5: It was said for a reason. It was man for

555
00:25:51,720 --> 00:25:53,760
Speaker 5: Russell Wilson. Well, why not just come out and say

556
00:25:54,000 --> 00:25:57,159
Speaker 5: Russell's great? I think that game the fifth game of

557
00:25:57,200 --> 00:26:01,160
Speaker 5: the year. My goodness, the interest about that. I don't

558
00:26:01,160 --> 00:26:03,560
Speaker 5: know what he was thinking. He's being kind of a jerk,

559
00:26:04,119 --> 00:26:07,480
Speaker 5: and he's been that way before. And I bet the

560
00:26:07,560 --> 00:26:11,719
Speaker 5: Jets just pound them into oblivion. Rogers will probaly throw

561
00:26:11,760 --> 00:26:14,840
Speaker 5: a touchdown pass on the last play. And then after

562
00:26:14,840 --> 00:26:17,400
Speaker 5: we'd run it up, they will, they will, they will

563
00:26:17,480 --> 00:26:20,720
Speaker 5: rub it in. And you know, the thing is about Hacket.

564
00:26:20,720 --> 00:26:23,560
Speaker 5: He never called plays in Green Bay. Matt Lafleur calls

565
00:26:23,640 --> 00:26:26,080
Speaker 5: plays in Green Bay. And I hear people talking about

566
00:26:26,080 --> 00:26:29,000
Speaker 5: what a great coordinator is. To be a great coordinator,

567
00:26:29,000 --> 00:26:30,280
Speaker 5: don't you have to call plays?

568
00:26:30,640 --> 00:26:33,840
Speaker 1: I think it could be effective in a non play

569
00:26:33,840 --> 00:26:35,920
Speaker 1: calling role, for sure. Sean Payton had a lot those

570
00:26:35,920 --> 00:26:38,920
Speaker 1: guys with the Saints. We saw that here in Houston.

571
00:26:39,000 --> 00:26:40,800
Speaker 1: You know, I thought Tim Kelly is a good coordinator

572
00:26:40,960 --> 00:26:45,640
Speaker 1: before we start calling plays. But yeah, I think John's right,

573
00:26:45,720 --> 00:26:49,400
Speaker 1: you got to call plays to be considered as such,

574
00:26:49,520 --> 00:26:51,960
Speaker 1: I would think across the board. So good stuff with

575
00:26:52,040 --> 00:26:54,840
Speaker 1: John mcclinn. Also good stuff with Eric Murray. Will have

576
00:26:55,000 --> 00:26:57,800
Speaker 1: him next right here a Texas All Access Welcome back

577
00:26:57,800 --> 00:27:00,280
Speaker 1: to this Monday edition of Texans All Access from I'm

578
00:27:00,280 --> 00:27:03,720
Speaker 1: Monday Texans Radio Studio. I am your host, John Harris.

579
00:27:03,760 --> 00:27:08,400
Speaker 1: Glad to be with you. A reminder tomorrow morning eight

580
00:27:08,440 --> 00:27:11,760
Speaker 1: to ten. Well that's smartt out Texas Training Camp live,

581
00:27:11,840 --> 00:27:16,600
Speaker 1: but right out the shoot tomorrow morning, Texans head coach

582
00:27:16,760 --> 00:27:21,680
Speaker 1: Tamico Ryans with me and Mark. It's gonna be awesome.

583
00:27:22,400 --> 00:27:26,879
Speaker 1: Eight o'clock, right out the gate, Tomiko Ryans with me

584
00:27:27,240 --> 00:27:30,320
Speaker 1: and Mark. That will be awesome. One of the guys

585
00:27:30,320 --> 00:27:33,760
Speaker 1: that Demiko Ryans is helping on the defensive side of

586
00:27:33,800 --> 00:27:35,640
Speaker 1: the ball is a guy who's been here since twenty

587
00:27:35,680 --> 00:27:39,320
Speaker 1: twenty now its fourth year, well longest tenure Texans here,

588
00:27:39,680 --> 00:27:42,720
Speaker 1: and that's Eric Murray. We've got a great time getting

589
00:27:42,720 --> 00:27:44,119
Speaker 1: to know Eric over the years, and we had a

590
00:27:44,160 --> 00:27:47,160
Speaker 1: great time chatting with him on Sunday after the workout.

591
00:27:47,920 --> 00:27:49,199
Speaker 2: What does it mean to you to see all these

592
00:27:49,240 --> 00:27:51,280
Speaker 2: fans out here? You guys get a little extra buzz

593
00:27:51,320 --> 00:27:51,680
Speaker 2: from this.

594
00:27:52,280 --> 00:27:54,240
Speaker 6: Definitely, we definitely get a pick me up from the

595
00:27:54,280 --> 00:27:56,320
Speaker 6: fans being out here. How hot it is, so I

596
00:27:56,359 --> 00:27:58,959
Speaker 6: definitely commend them from coming out and you know, braving

597
00:27:59,000 --> 00:27:59,879
Speaker 6: a hot weather with us.

598
00:28:00,040 --> 00:28:01,119
Speaker 4: But it's lovely.

599
00:28:01,160 --> 00:28:01,640
Speaker 1: Man. A lot of.

600
00:28:01,560 --> 00:28:02,480
Speaker 4: Camaraderie out here.

601
00:28:02,600 --> 00:28:05,200
Speaker 1: Eric. I think about you and John Gunnard Charlie Heck

602
00:28:06,000 --> 00:28:08,080
Speaker 1: a lot during these times because you guys got here

603
00:28:08,080 --> 00:28:10,439
Speaker 1: in twenty twenty. Yeah, and I thought about it. I

604
00:28:10,440 --> 00:28:13,000
Speaker 1: was talking to somebody earlier about the COVID practices. There's

605
00:28:13,080 --> 00:28:15,680
Speaker 1: like none of this nothing. How did you guys get

606
00:28:15,760 --> 00:28:17,720
Speaker 1: through that? Where did your juice come from to get

607
00:28:17,720 --> 00:28:19,679
Speaker 1: you through? With no fans, nothing to kind of get

608
00:28:19,720 --> 00:28:20,080
Speaker 1: you through?

609
00:28:20,240 --> 00:28:22,760
Speaker 6: It was just crazy because we would come in and

610
00:28:22,800 --> 00:28:24,960
Speaker 6: you really was only here for about like three hours

611
00:28:24,960 --> 00:28:27,120
Speaker 6: a day, so like most of the time we were

612
00:28:27,160 --> 00:28:29,720
Speaker 6: doing zoom meetings at home. You just pop in work

613
00:28:29,760 --> 00:28:32,680
Speaker 6: and then you leave. So I mean, not being here

614
00:28:32,760 --> 00:28:34,520
Speaker 6: as much kind of did help us get through it

615
00:28:34,560 --> 00:28:36,720
Speaker 6: a lot. But I'm definitely I'm glad to be back

616
00:28:36,760 --> 00:28:38,120
Speaker 6: and glad to have the atmosphere.

617
00:28:38,640 --> 00:28:41,040
Speaker 2: So what are you working on as a defense here

618
00:28:41,120 --> 00:28:42,920
Speaker 2: to get adjusted to this new system?

619
00:28:42,960 --> 00:28:44,360
Speaker 1: How does it differ for you guys?

620
00:28:45,240 --> 00:28:48,000
Speaker 6: It's way more communication. Last year we didn't have as

621
00:28:48,040 --> 00:28:50,080
Speaker 6: much communication. It was kind of like plug and play.

622
00:28:50,520 --> 00:28:53,360
Speaker 6: So being able to communicate with your teammates and let

623
00:28:53,400 --> 00:28:56,000
Speaker 6: them know what's going on, I think it'll be a

624
00:28:56,120 --> 00:28:58,680
Speaker 6: way bigger help, and it's a bigger adjustment, but it'll

625
00:28:58,680 --> 00:28:59,560
Speaker 6: help us in the long run.

626
00:29:00,840 --> 00:29:03,480
Speaker 1: No pads today, when the pads go on, how much

627
00:29:03,480 --> 00:29:05,920
Speaker 1: talking is there amongst the dv's and wide receivers about

628
00:29:06,120 --> 00:29:07,840
Speaker 1: when pads go on? Or is that not much a

629
00:29:07,880 --> 00:29:09,520
Speaker 1: thing between DB's and wide receivers.

630
00:29:10,000 --> 00:29:12,560
Speaker 6: It's not much a thing, but I think we work

631
00:29:12,600 --> 00:29:14,120
Speaker 6: with each other every day, so it's kind of like

632
00:29:14,120 --> 00:29:17,440
Speaker 6: an unspoken rule, like you know, like when certain things

633
00:29:17,480 --> 00:29:17,880
Speaker 6: go on.

634
00:29:17,840 --> 00:29:19,640
Speaker 4: Without the pass you like, Okay, if I had pass on,

635
00:29:19,720 --> 00:29:23,040
Speaker 4: this wouldn't happen. That wouldn't happen. So yeah, it's known.

636
00:29:23,120 --> 00:29:24,480
Speaker 4: It's known. We don't have to talk about it.

637
00:29:24,920 --> 00:29:25,960
Speaker 1: Eric Murray joining us.

638
00:29:26,000 --> 00:29:28,800
Speaker 2: Hey, you were in Kansas City when Mahomes was picked

639
00:29:29,200 --> 00:29:31,960
Speaker 2: and he sat for that first year. What was all

640
00:29:31,960 --> 00:29:35,200
Speaker 2: that like watching that transition take place? Alex Smith's still

641
00:29:35,240 --> 00:29:37,320
Speaker 2: a very good quarterback. You guys had a good year.

642
00:29:37,480 --> 00:29:38,480
Speaker 2: What was that like, Eric?

643
00:29:39,360 --> 00:29:41,760
Speaker 6: It was just for him just sitting back and being

644
00:29:41,800 --> 00:29:45,040
Speaker 6: able to learn. I think that really helped him mature

645
00:29:45,080 --> 00:29:47,440
Speaker 6: and grow to what he is now, Like not being

646
00:29:47,920 --> 00:29:49,760
Speaker 6: not having to go in there and like be the guy.

647
00:29:49,800 --> 00:29:52,200
Speaker 6: I think really helped him really get a year under

648
00:29:52,240 --> 00:29:53,520
Speaker 6: his belt and hit the ground running.

649
00:29:53,680 --> 00:29:55,440
Speaker 1: All right, Eric, we'll make you put the scout and

650
00:29:55,440 --> 00:29:57,800
Speaker 1: report hat on and go to the other side of

651
00:29:57,840 --> 00:30:00,920
Speaker 1: the ball. What you see from the wide receiver? What

652
00:30:00,960 --> 00:30:03,200
Speaker 1: have you seed from that group? Because you're obviously facing them,

653
00:30:03,240 --> 00:30:04,920
Speaker 1: you know your room pretty well. We actually know the

654
00:30:05,000 --> 00:30:07,600
Speaker 1: room pretty well too. You know, we know Mjed talk

655
00:30:07,640 --> 00:30:09,440
Speaker 1: team the other day, We know Jalen and Jimmy. We

656
00:30:09,480 --> 00:30:11,719
Speaker 1: know you know your room. What about the wide receivers?

657
00:30:11,720 --> 00:30:13,440
Speaker 1: What do you see from the wide receivers thus far

658
00:30:13,480 --> 00:30:15,520
Speaker 1: throughout camp? No pads obviously, but what have you seed

659
00:30:15,560 --> 00:30:16,040
Speaker 1: from that group?

660
00:30:16,440 --> 00:30:18,040
Speaker 6: A lot of shafety iness, a lot of speed. They

661
00:30:18,120 --> 00:30:20,840
Speaker 6: run a different type of routes, so I think those

662
00:30:20,920 --> 00:30:24,080
Speaker 6: routes cater to their skill sets more. Yeah, and it's

663
00:30:24,120 --> 00:30:25,640
Speaker 6: gonna be a good year, man. I think we got

664
00:30:25,640 --> 00:30:27,280
Speaker 6: some good skill players and they're gonna be able to

665
00:30:27,280 --> 00:30:28,080
Speaker 6: showcase what they got.

666
00:30:28,360 --> 00:30:30,840
Speaker 2: Seems to me that there's a lot more eleven on

667
00:30:30,960 --> 00:30:34,760
Speaker 2: eleven in this camp than previous camps, less seven on seven,

668
00:30:34,920 --> 00:30:36,520
Speaker 2: a lot of team periods.

669
00:30:36,840 --> 00:30:38,440
Speaker 1: How do you see it and what do you think

670
00:30:38,480 --> 00:30:38,719
Speaker 1: of it?

671
00:30:38,840 --> 00:30:41,480
Speaker 6: I mean, you only get better at football by playing football,

672
00:30:41,520 --> 00:30:43,960
Speaker 6: So I think that's that's a good thing, and that's

673
00:30:43,960 --> 00:30:46,200
Speaker 6: a good sign and that we're going in the right direction.

674
00:30:46,240 --> 00:30:47,480
Speaker 6: Play a lot of football, get better.

675
00:30:47,880 --> 00:30:50,520
Speaker 1: So we've been kind of watching over here.

676
00:30:50,640 --> 00:30:50,840
Speaker 5: Eric.

677
00:30:50,960 --> 00:30:54,280
Speaker 1: It feels like it's just two of us. Feels like

678
00:30:54,320 --> 00:30:57,640
Speaker 1: you guys spend a lot of time in your offensive defense,

679
00:30:57,680 --> 00:31:00,840
Speaker 1: but in protective defense, defensive walkthroughs, going from different checks,

680
00:31:00,880 --> 00:31:04,080
Speaker 1: going through all things, and it feels like there aren't

681
00:31:04,120 --> 00:31:06,400
Speaker 1: many mental errors. As watching there always are that we

682
00:31:06,440 --> 00:31:09,320
Speaker 1: can't see, but it just feels like to you guys

683
00:31:09,320 --> 00:31:10,920
Speaker 1: who watch a lot of football, it feels like the

684
00:31:10,920 --> 00:31:13,880
Speaker 1: mental errors have been very few and far between it. It

685
00:31:13,800 --> 00:31:15,840
Speaker 1: feels like because you've been doing that work that that's

686
00:31:15,840 --> 00:31:16,680
Speaker 1: a major part of that.

687
00:31:16,800 --> 00:31:19,000
Speaker 4: You agree with that, Uh, yeah, I totally agree with that.

688
00:31:19,120 --> 00:31:21,440
Speaker 6: Like I said, it goes back to the communication, and

689
00:31:21,480 --> 00:31:24,400
Speaker 6: when you communicate on these specific sets, you're gonna get

690
00:31:24,400 --> 00:31:25,240
Speaker 6: a specific play.

691
00:31:25,640 --> 00:31:27,400
Speaker 4: So when you know exactly.

692
00:31:27,040 --> 00:31:29,320
Speaker 6: What's coming from that specific say you ever, you're gonna

693
00:31:29,320 --> 00:31:31,360
Speaker 6: be more well prepared to guard it. And uh, I

694
00:31:31,400 --> 00:31:33,520
Speaker 6: think that's why you're, you know, seeing what you described.

695
00:31:33,640 --> 00:31:36,800
Speaker 2: So Jonathan Joseph is spending camp with the team. Have

696
00:31:36,920 --> 00:31:39,480
Speaker 2: you spent much time with him? Heard from him much?

697
00:31:39,680 --> 00:31:41,880
Speaker 6: Yeah, he's been around with the DBS every day learning

698
00:31:41,920 --> 00:31:44,760
Speaker 6: safety and corners, so he's been giving us a lot

699
00:31:44,760 --> 00:31:47,200
Speaker 6: of tid bits of information and we definitely lean on

700
00:31:47,240 --> 00:31:48,880
Speaker 6: him very You.

701
00:31:48,880 --> 00:31:52,400
Speaker 1: Don't have you gotta I mean, Brandon Hill's in the backfield,

702
00:31:52,400 --> 00:31:53,480
Speaker 1: I'm trying to think if there are any of the

703
00:31:53,560 --> 00:31:55,760
Speaker 1: rookies you got back there. But what do you got

704
00:31:55,760 --> 00:31:57,440
Speaker 1: the rookie? What do you got the rookies doing for

705
00:31:57,480 --> 00:31:59,400
Speaker 1: you guys's vets? I mean you gotta have a little

706
00:31:59,400 --> 00:32:01,720
Speaker 1: bit of that. Rookies got to get doctrinated in some way,

707
00:32:01,760 --> 00:32:03,280
Speaker 1: shape or form. What you got them doing? Is it

708
00:32:03,360 --> 00:32:04,440
Speaker 1: more snacks and food?

709
00:32:04,600 --> 00:32:06,640
Speaker 6: Yeah, it's just it's just snacks right now. We made

710
00:32:06,680 --> 00:32:09,520
Speaker 6: them go get probably about like a pound of snacks yesterday.

711
00:32:09,880 --> 00:32:11,800
Speaker 6: So he set them all up real nicely for us

712
00:32:11,840 --> 00:32:14,600
Speaker 6: in a in a in the meeting room. So that

713
00:32:14,680 --> 00:32:16,640
Speaker 6: was his first initiation. He passed the first test.

714
00:32:16,720 --> 00:32:18,400
Speaker 1: That goes a long way with the vets, does it not?

715
00:32:18,520 --> 00:32:20,280
Speaker 4: Yeah, it definitely does. You don't want to you don't

716
00:32:20,280 --> 00:32:20,720
Speaker 4: want to make the.

717
00:32:20,720 --> 00:32:23,120
Speaker 2: Vets man, Well you've been at it for a while now, Eric,

718
00:32:23,360 --> 00:32:26,400
Speaker 2: How do you get through training camp better these days

719
00:32:26,440 --> 00:32:28,280
Speaker 2: than you did as a younger player?

720
00:32:28,840 --> 00:32:29,000
Speaker 1: Man?

721
00:32:29,040 --> 00:32:30,960
Speaker 6: When I was younger, it was go, go go. Now

722
00:32:30,960 --> 00:32:32,800
Speaker 6: it's like you get older, you just got to pick

723
00:32:32,840 --> 00:32:36,440
Speaker 6: your spot. I'm going right here. I can taper it

724
00:32:36,480 --> 00:32:39,520
Speaker 6: down back here, but it just never really gets easier.

725
00:32:39,560 --> 00:32:40,920
Speaker 6: Training camp always a grind.

726
00:32:41,040 --> 00:32:43,280
Speaker 1: So training camp is always.

727
00:32:44,560 --> 00:32:44,720
Speaker 5: Eric.

728
00:32:44,760 --> 00:32:46,600
Speaker 1: I think back to playing, and I think back to

729
00:32:46,720 --> 00:32:50,120
Speaker 1: whenever I heard training camp, I just had this like

730
00:32:50,120 --> 00:32:52,400
Speaker 1: like you just have that Like it's exciting to a

731
00:32:52,440 --> 00:32:56,080
Speaker 1: degree to the fans, they love it, but when yes players,

732
00:32:56,120 --> 00:32:57,640
Speaker 1: it's like, we just got to get through it.

733
00:32:57,720 --> 00:32:59,960
Speaker 6: Yeah, you wake up, it's another day. It's like, man,

734
00:33:00,200 --> 00:33:02,280
Speaker 6: I gotta just put it on and go one more time.

735
00:33:02,360 --> 00:33:03,720
Speaker 1: So with your day off, what do you guys do

736
00:33:03,760 --> 00:33:05,480
Speaker 1: on your day off? Like, what do you try to

737
00:33:05,480 --> 00:33:07,040
Speaker 1: get accomplished on a day at.

738
00:33:07,040 --> 00:33:09,520
Speaker 6: Least some type of recovery, Like yesterday I did like

739
00:33:09,560 --> 00:33:12,600
Speaker 6: some restorative yoga, some breathing exercise and stuff like that.

740
00:33:12,800 --> 00:33:15,520
Speaker 6: Took a magnesium bath, and then just you know, spend

741
00:33:15,600 --> 00:33:17,080
Speaker 6: time with my kids, but at least some type of

742
00:33:17,120 --> 00:33:18,720
Speaker 6: recovery and then just family time after that.

743
00:33:19,040 --> 00:33:22,320
Speaker 2: What is it like when you transition from playing safety

744
00:33:22,560 --> 00:33:26,400
Speaker 2: to working with Frank Ross and that group, because it's

745
00:33:26,680 --> 00:33:28,520
Speaker 2: almost a different sport at that point.

746
00:33:29,680 --> 00:33:31,560
Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean, at the end day, it's still football.

747
00:33:31,600 --> 00:33:34,320
Speaker 6: It's still running, blocking and tackling, and that's all the

748
00:33:34,360 --> 00:33:36,480
Speaker 6: part of the game. So I mean all the special

749
00:33:36,520 --> 00:33:38,280
Speaker 6: teams player, that's where the real football players.

750
00:33:38,720 --> 00:33:42,840
Speaker 1: That's where is he losing his voice already?

751
00:33:42,400 --> 00:33:43,280
Speaker 4: Every day?

752
00:33:43,680 --> 00:33:46,080
Speaker 1: I talked him in the hallway and I couldn't believe it.

753
00:33:46,080 --> 00:33:49,480
Speaker 1: Mid season four pads on it. He's lost a voice already.

754
00:33:49,800 --> 00:33:51,080
Speaker 4: Yeah, he really intense guy.

755
00:33:51,160 --> 00:33:53,560
Speaker 1: Okay, what to go about? You mentioned a Magnesian bath.

756
00:33:53,680 --> 00:33:55,160
Speaker 4: Yep, okay, if you're.

757
00:33:55,040 --> 00:33:57,680
Speaker 1: Magnese, Hold up, what is a magnesium bat?

758
00:33:57,800 --> 00:33:57,880
Speaker 4: So?

759
00:33:58,000 --> 00:34:00,720
Speaker 6: You know we need magnesium for the body thriving for

760
00:34:00,880 --> 00:34:02,000
Speaker 6: to operate correctly.

761
00:34:02,120 --> 00:34:04,360
Speaker 4: So I just go get a bath, right, poor.

762
00:34:04,440 --> 00:34:07,160
Speaker 6: The magnesium salts in the bath, probably about like two

763
00:34:07,160 --> 00:34:10,000
Speaker 6: cups of it and just soak for about twenty thirty minutes.

764
00:34:10,600 --> 00:34:11,799
Speaker 1: That helps everything back.

765
00:34:11,880 --> 00:34:13,880
Speaker 6: Yeah, relax the muscles and stuff like that. A lot

766
00:34:13,880 --> 00:34:16,440
Speaker 6: of people use cold therapy. I like hot therapy. You know,

767
00:34:16,840 --> 00:34:19,319
Speaker 6: get a good sweagon, get the muscles pliable and keep

768
00:34:19,360 --> 00:34:20,279
Speaker 6: it keep it like that?

769
00:34:20,400 --> 00:34:22,279
Speaker 1: Is that? It like a new school EPSOM salt sort

770
00:34:22,280 --> 00:34:22,560
Speaker 1: of thing.

771
00:34:23,480 --> 00:34:27,080
Speaker 6: Is a mix of salts, but the magnesium is purely magnesium.

772
00:34:27,400 --> 00:34:29,719
Speaker 1: What about the yoga? How long have you been doing that?

773
00:34:30,400 --> 00:34:31,719
Speaker 4: Uh? Just sparingly.

774
00:34:31,800 --> 00:34:35,600
Speaker 6: I got that mirror from Lululemon at home, so you

775
00:34:35,640 --> 00:34:36,320
Speaker 6: know you could just do it.

776
00:34:36,320 --> 00:34:38,000
Speaker 4: The little classes at home. I didn't just do it

777
00:34:38,040 --> 00:34:38,319
Speaker 4: at home.

778
00:34:38,400 --> 00:34:40,400
Speaker 1: Oh so they do the lesson on the mirrorge just

779
00:34:40,400 --> 00:34:44,400
Speaker 1: do that? Yeah, how have you? How is that? How's that?

780
00:34:44,400 --> 00:34:46,040
Speaker 1: How long you been doing that? How do you see that?

781
00:34:46,040 --> 00:34:46,440
Speaker 1: Helping you?

782
00:34:47,400 --> 00:34:49,560
Speaker 4: Just keep you more appliable the older you get.

783
00:34:49,600 --> 00:34:52,360
Speaker 6: Man, It's like amongst football players you say, I've been

784
00:34:52,360 --> 00:34:55,120
Speaker 6: playing eight years, nine years, man, and well, you know,

785
00:34:55,160 --> 00:34:56,440
Speaker 6: the first thing that comes to them mind is like,

786
00:34:56,440 --> 00:34:57,560
Speaker 6: I hope my body can hold up.

787
00:34:57,600 --> 00:34:57,840
Speaker 4: You know what.

788
00:34:58,800 --> 00:35:02,319
Speaker 6: Yeah, that's like the big So your mind always gonna

789
00:35:02,400 --> 00:35:04,239
Speaker 6: keep learning and growing, but your body just need to

790
00:35:04,239 --> 00:35:05,919
Speaker 6: be able to kind of keep a good pace.

791
00:35:06,000 --> 00:35:07,600
Speaker 1: So Eric, thanks a lot for joining us.

792
00:35:07,640 --> 00:35:08,360
Speaker 4: Good luck problem.

793
00:35:08,400 --> 00:35:10,680
Speaker 1: Thank you there is Eric Murray. Had a good time

794
00:35:10,800 --> 00:35:13,920
Speaker 1: talking with him. All Right, we got stories galore going

795
00:35:14,000 --> 00:35:18,720
Speaker 1: on in the NFL, so let's go around the league next.

796
00:35:18,800 --> 00:35:21,960
Speaker 1: Right here on Texans All Access. What's happened everybody walking

797
00:35:21,960 --> 00:35:24,320
Speaker 1: back this Monday edition of Texans All Access from the

798
00:35:24,400 --> 00:35:28,520
Speaker 1: Hyundai Texans Radio studio. I'm John Harrish, your host, Glad

799
00:35:28,920 --> 00:35:32,919
Speaker 1: to be with you this evening. Yeah I shouldn't sing.

800
00:35:32,920 --> 00:35:35,120
Speaker 1: It's been a long day, so I'm a little little loopy.

801
00:35:35,520 --> 00:35:39,320
Speaker 1: They started away earlier today, So it's about my bedtime

802
00:35:39,440 --> 00:35:42,719
Speaker 1: right now, you would think. But hammering through on this

803
00:35:42,880 --> 00:35:47,040
Speaker 1: edition of Texans All Access. A reminder tomorrow eight am.

804
00:35:47,600 --> 00:35:50,480
Speaker 1: Right out of the shoot, Mark and I'll probably say

805
00:35:50,520 --> 00:35:52,920
Speaker 1: hi to each other and then we're gonna throw it

806
00:35:53,239 --> 00:35:59,080
Speaker 1: right to Dimico Ryans, Tamiko Ryan's joining me and Mark

807
00:35:59,200 --> 00:36:02,239
Speaker 1: exclusive one on one, two on one. However, you want

808
00:36:02,239 --> 00:36:06,080
Speaker 1: to look at it tomorrow with Timiko Ryans at eight am,

809
00:36:06,680 --> 00:36:09,200
Speaker 1: be there. It should be there every day during training camp,

810
00:36:09,280 --> 00:36:12,839
Speaker 1: in particular because that's when Mark and I take over

811
00:36:12,880 --> 00:36:16,440
Speaker 1: at eight am to ten am. Even outside of eight am,

812
00:36:16,480 --> 00:36:18,080
Speaker 1: you should be listening to Sports Area six ' ten

813
00:36:18,120 --> 00:36:22,200
Speaker 1: sewn seth every day fought up by Landry and John.

814
00:36:22,200 --> 00:36:26,960
Speaker 1: They were out at the Practice Center practice facility today

815
00:36:27,239 --> 00:36:28,799
Speaker 1: and I think that's what they're gonna do each davery

816
00:36:28,800 --> 00:36:31,520
Speaker 1: practice today they had Will Anderson Junior. How about that?

817
00:36:31,719 --> 00:36:36,080
Speaker 1: Will Anderson Junior joined Landry and John. So good stuff.

818
00:36:36,080 --> 00:36:37,879
Speaker 1: All right, it's get some news around the league. Two

819
00:36:37,880 --> 00:36:45,120
Speaker 1: injuries one eh boy, it's just been nasty in Indianapolis,

820
00:36:45,320 --> 00:36:49,400
Speaker 1: but kind of their own doing in some sense. Jonathan Taylor,

821
00:36:49,880 --> 00:36:51,480
Speaker 1: if you followed it and we talked about that with

822
00:36:51,600 --> 00:36:56,240
Speaker 1: John McClain. The situation Inneapolis has not gotten any better

823
00:36:56,880 --> 00:37:01,480
Speaker 1: For the fourth year running back Jonathan Taylor. He continues

824
00:37:01,520 --> 00:37:03,960
Speaker 1: to sit. They just talking about his back injury. He said,

825
00:37:04,000 --> 00:37:06,400
Speaker 1: he never said anything. He said, y'all need to get

826
00:37:06,440 --> 00:37:08,960
Speaker 1: new sources. Well, where do you think what source do

827
00:37:08,960 --> 00:37:10,840
Speaker 1: you think that was? It is probably your say? Is

828
00:37:10,880 --> 00:37:14,400
Speaker 1: that anyway? Crazy stuff going on? Indianapolis. Don't know or

829
00:37:14,440 --> 00:37:17,640
Speaker 1: have any clue when Jonathan Taylor will be available to

830
00:37:18,920 --> 00:37:21,600
Speaker 1: play or want to play or I don't know. It's

831
00:37:21,760 --> 00:37:24,960
Speaker 1: just confusing. The man wants to play, but everybody wants

832
00:37:24,960 --> 00:37:27,360
Speaker 1: to be compensated for their value, and that's what the

833
00:37:27,440 --> 00:37:29,520
Speaker 1: running backs are kind of feeling themselves, and there's really

834
00:37:29,600 --> 00:37:33,839
Speaker 1: nothing they can do. Unfortunately, now it gets more complicated

835
00:37:34,360 --> 00:37:36,680
Speaker 1: when you bring in the fact that they might put

836
00:37:36,719 --> 00:37:38,640
Speaker 1: him on the NFI list. If they put him on

837
00:37:38,640 --> 00:37:40,839
Speaker 1: the NFI list, his contract tolls at twenty twenty four,

838
00:37:41,920 --> 00:37:45,600
Speaker 1: that's a leverage play. My guess is that the cults

839
00:37:45,600 --> 00:37:47,560
Speaker 1: are floating out there to say, hey, JT, you really

840
00:37:47,560 --> 00:37:50,319
Speaker 1: have no option. If you're healthy, let's go because you've

841
00:37:50,360 --> 00:37:53,319
Speaker 1: really got no option. So we'll see how this standoff

842
00:37:53,840 --> 00:37:57,280
Speaker 1: sits in Indianapolis. But it's not getting any better because

843
00:37:58,000 --> 00:38:00,279
Speaker 1: Zach Moss, who we saw in week Team last year

844
00:38:01,000 --> 00:38:06,200
Speaker 1: killed us, really suffers a broken arm. He is now

845
00:38:06,520 --> 00:38:11,919
Speaker 1: out six weeks. Says about six weeks, so if you're

846
00:38:11,960 --> 00:38:17,200
Speaker 1: doing the math, four weeks is approximately end of September.

847
00:38:18,040 --> 00:38:21,400
Speaker 1: Two weeks later, right around that time we play in Houston, Texans,

848
00:38:21,440 --> 00:38:23,800
Speaker 1: So we'll see if Zach Moss will make it back.

849
00:38:23,960 --> 00:38:26,319
Speaker 1: I agree with John and Mark, we talked about this.

850
00:38:26,360 --> 00:38:29,960
Speaker 1: I think Jonathan Taylor will come back, but that is

851
00:38:30,080 --> 00:38:32,280
Speaker 1: this is just not good news right now. The Cults

852
00:38:32,320 --> 00:38:39,120
Speaker 1: running backs in camp are Jake Funk, Dion Jackson, who

853
00:38:39,120 --> 00:38:44,839
Speaker 1: we've seen a little bit, Evan Hall, the rookie from Northwestern. Uh,

854
00:38:45,719 --> 00:38:49,799
Speaker 1: that's not a great room. I mean, think about think

855
00:38:49,800 --> 00:38:52,840
Speaker 1: about the Texas running backs. I mean, I think Texas

856
00:38:52,880 --> 00:38:55,520
Speaker 1: running backs beyond our top two are actually you know,

857
00:38:55,600 --> 00:38:58,400
Speaker 1: have some experience. I think they're more than decent. I

858
00:38:58,400 --> 00:39:01,959
Speaker 1: think they're very good. And I probably think the Colts

859
00:39:02,000 --> 00:39:03,879
Speaker 1: fans look at and go, hey, you know, there's Evan Hall,

860
00:39:04,120 --> 00:39:07,080
Speaker 1: rookie for Northwestern. See what he's got. But what if

861
00:39:07,080 --> 00:39:09,600
Speaker 1: the Texas didn't have Damian Pearson, Devin singletary. I mean,

862
00:39:09,600 --> 00:39:11,880
Speaker 1: everybody'd be like, WHOA, yeah, well, that's kind of what

863
00:39:11,920 --> 00:39:15,719
Speaker 1: the culture looking at right here. No Zach Moss for

864
00:39:15,800 --> 00:39:21,320
Speaker 1: six weeks. We'll see if that expediate expediates the Jonathan

865
00:39:21,320 --> 00:39:24,960
Speaker 1: Taylor situation or not. Another injury that's a big one.

866
00:39:25,560 --> 00:39:31,000
Speaker 1: Wide receiver Tim Patrick of the Broncos had just gotten

867
00:39:31,520 --> 00:39:35,759
Speaker 1: back to the Broncos after a torn ACL last year

868
00:39:37,440 --> 00:39:44,839
Speaker 1: in practice tears his achilles tendon. I mean that the

869
00:39:45,040 --> 00:39:52,080
Speaker 1: luck or lack thereof is just ridiculous. Tim Patrick, uh

870
00:39:52,320 --> 00:39:58,440
Speaker 1: that never really the number one guy, but very involved

871
00:39:58,440 --> 00:40:01,040
Speaker 1: in the offense, you know, reliable. You know, he's kind

872
00:40:01,080 --> 00:40:03,840
Speaker 1: of the Broncos version of what Chris Moore was for

873
00:40:03,920 --> 00:40:06,520
Speaker 1: the Texans the last couple of years. When you needed him,

874
00:40:06,719 --> 00:40:12,440
Speaker 1: you got him. But Tim Patrick last year ACL, this

875
00:40:12,520 --> 00:40:16,920
Speaker 1: week or this year achilles tendon. But that's not all

876
00:40:16,960 --> 00:40:23,120
Speaker 1: on Broncos land. The Broncos plan to waive kJ Hamler,

877
00:40:24,040 --> 00:40:27,440
Speaker 1: former Penn State third round pick. I believe he was

878
00:40:27,920 --> 00:40:36,160
Speaker 1: with a non football illness designation. Apparently he's got perio

879
00:40:36,960 --> 00:40:40,920
Speaker 1: pariokitis perio I can't pronounce it, but he's got a

880
00:40:40,960 --> 00:40:44,400
Speaker 1: heard issue. But it's not a long term hard issue.

881
00:40:44,560 --> 00:40:48,920
Speaker 1: He could be back. They're waving him, letting him essentially

882
00:40:48,960 --> 00:40:51,799
Speaker 1: get treatment and do everything he needs to do. But

883
00:40:51,960 --> 00:40:59,239
Speaker 1: he will be able to come back and play. That

884
00:40:59,400 --> 00:41:02,480
Speaker 1: is if Bob Obviously at this point somebody will give

885
00:41:02,560 --> 00:41:07,680
Speaker 1: him an opportunity. That is gonna be be tough perio

886
00:41:08,560 --> 00:41:13,719
Speaker 1: periocard perry carditis. And I shouldn't even try and pronounce that.

887
00:41:13,800 --> 00:41:15,719
Speaker 1: I'm too tired to do that either way. It's a

888
00:41:15,719 --> 00:41:18,640
Speaker 1: mild heart irritation, is what it is. Says Chess was

889
00:41:18,719 --> 00:41:23,120
Speaker 1: hurting during workouts. He later got diagnosed and was and

890
00:41:23,120 --> 00:41:25,840
Speaker 1: found out after he got it checked. It doesn't appear

891
00:41:25,880 --> 00:41:27,880
Speaker 1: that it will be a long term thing for Hamdler,

892
00:41:28,080 --> 00:41:31,080
Speaker 1: but thoughts go out to him because we know we

893
00:41:31,280 --> 00:41:34,440
Speaker 1: we know what that can turn into and how that goes. Guy,

894
00:41:34,520 --> 00:41:36,080
Speaker 1: get yourself healthy before you get back on the field,

895
00:41:36,120 --> 00:41:38,600
Speaker 1: so hopefully he's able to do that. All right, that's

896
00:41:38,600 --> 00:41:40,239
Speaker 1: gonna do it for the show. A big thanks to Mark,

897
00:41:40,800 --> 00:41:45,799
Speaker 1: to John McClain, to Eric Murray, to all of you

898
00:41:45,880 --> 00:41:49,520
Speaker 1: for listening. Eight o'clock. Where are You're gonna be right here?

899
00:41:50,080 --> 00:41:52,800
Speaker 1: Miko Ryant's on with Mark and myself. Make sure you

900
00:41:52,880 --> 00:41:54,720
Speaker 1: check that out, we'll see why orowybody, and as always

901
00:41:54,719 --> 00:41:55,280
Speaker 1: go Texans.