1 00:00:00,760 --> 00:00:03,600 Speaker 1: This is the almost Famous podcast with iHeartRadio. 2 00:00:06,200 --> 00:00:10,879 Speaker 2: Everybody's Bob getting here, Almost Famous the Ogs doing a 3 00:00:10,960 --> 00:00:17,279 Speaker 2: breaking news episode. Taylor Frankie Paul TFP. She's back in 4 00:00:17,320 --> 00:00:23,279 Speaker 2: the news, everybody, and it's not pretty at all. Heather 5 00:00:23,360 --> 00:00:29,520 Speaker 2: Monday's joining me, our producer, extraordinary reality expert to be Bob. 6 00:00:29,560 --> 00:00:31,920 Speaker 1: I don't think she's left the news. I think it's 7 00:00:32,080 --> 00:00:36,680 Speaker 1: just been enough line every couple of hours with this one. 8 00:00:36,880 --> 00:00:39,720 Speaker 1: So I'm glad we're jumping on now to talk about 9 00:00:39,720 --> 00:00:41,840 Speaker 1: this latest one because it is a big one. 10 00:00:43,040 --> 00:00:45,159 Speaker 2: Yeah, and I gotta say, I mean part of me, 11 00:00:45,479 --> 00:00:46,879 Speaker 2: part of me is perplexed on this. 12 00:00:46,960 --> 00:00:47,960 Speaker 3: I'm reading the news. 13 00:00:48,000 --> 00:00:48,159 Speaker 2: It was. 14 00:00:48,320 --> 00:00:50,320 Speaker 3: It was flashed all over the place today. 15 00:00:50,320 --> 00:00:53,360 Speaker 2: Police investigating Mormon wife star Taylor Frankie Paul on third 16 00:00:53,680 --> 00:00:57,400 Speaker 2: allegation of domestic violence. Police and Utah said they're investigating 17 00:00:57,440 --> 00:00:59,680 Speaker 2: an allegation of domestic violence for me twenty twenty four 18 00:00:59,720 --> 00:01:04,520 Speaker 2: insident that Dakota Mortensen made against Paul last month. So 19 00:01:05,520 --> 00:01:09,480 Speaker 2: a lot of questions about this. First of all, when 20 00:01:09,520 --> 00:01:11,320 Speaker 2: does it end right? I mean, at the end of 21 00:01:11,360 --> 00:01:14,560 Speaker 2: the day, you know, they always say you can't trust 22 00:01:14,560 --> 00:01:16,240 Speaker 2: a man with two first names. I don't know if 23 00:01:16,280 --> 00:01:19,160 Speaker 2: you've ever heard that, but this really begs the question 24 00:01:19,200 --> 00:01:21,800 Speaker 2: can we trust anybody with three first names? Because I 25 00:01:21,800 --> 00:01:25,240 Speaker 2: think TFP is going off the rails on this. And 26 00:01:26,080 --> 00:01:28,040 Speaker 2: I don't say that in a mean way. I say 27 00:01:28,080 --> 00:01:30,640 Speaker 2: that more from a standpoint of gosh, you gotta be 28 00:01:30,640 --> 00:01:32,720 Speaker 2: careful what you wish for, right all of a sudden, 29 00:01:33,200 --> 00:01:37,160 Speaker 2: you have this, this notoriety and dare I say, fame 30 00:01:37,360 --> 00:01:41,440 Speaker 2: and man, everything is coming out of the woodwork at 31 00:01:41,440 --> 00:01:44,200 Speaker 2: this point, and I feel so bad for the kids. 32 00:01:44,280 --> 00:01:47,440 Speaker 3: I feel so bad for her children. Who are you know? 33 00:01:47,920 --> 00:01:50,360 Speaker 2: I mean, I don't know Taylor Frankie Paul, I don't 34 00:01:50,400 --> 00:01:53,200 Speaker 2: know her at all. I do know that I thought 35 00:01:53,200 --> 00:01:55,480 Speaker 2: it was a risk for the franchise to take a 36 00:01:55,480 --> 00:01:58,720 Speaker 2: step in this direction, but seemed like a calculated one, 37 00:01:59,440 --> 00:02:01,840 Speaker 2: given the fact that they've been doing reality TV for 38 00:02:01,880 --> 00:02:04,480 Speaker 2: so long, and to be in a situation now where 39 00:02:04,480 --> 00:02:07,360 Speaker 2: you're like, oh my gosh, you know, like the franchise 40 00:02:07,400 --> 00:02:10,560 Speaker 2: has just exploded or imploded, I guess is a better 41 00:02:10,560 --> 00:02:11,120 Speaker 2: way to put it. 42 00:02:11,160 --> 00:02:14,000 Speaker 1: And imploded for sure, imploded. 43 00:02:13,560 --> 00:02:15,800 Speaker 2: And this poor in this woman, And I say poor woman, 44 00:02:15,840 --> 00:02:18,440 Speaker 2: but I realize, you know, I just I feel for 45 00:02:18,480 --> 00:02:21,040 Speaker 2: everybody involved in this. Like it sounds terrible to say 46 00:02:21,080 --> 00:02:23,600 Speaker 2: this because I always think there's three size to every story. 47 00:02:23,680 --> 00:02:26,880 Speaker 2: Right her side, his side, the truth, and and somehow 48 00:02:26,919 --> 00:02:30,160 Speaker 2: someway in the middle of this thing is the truth 49 00:02:30,240 --> 00:02:32,840 Speaker 2: that these two people loved each other at one point, 50 00:02:33,000 --> 00:02:34,880 Speaker 2: and I don't know what. 51 00:02:34,840 --> 00:02:36,600 Speaker 3: Their relationship is now. It doesn't seem like they love 52 00:02:36,600 --> 00:02:37,359 Speaker 3: each other anymore. 53 00:02:37,360 --> 00:02:40,679 Speaker 2: But these poor children that are getting just like their 54 00:02:40,720 --> 00:02:45,120 Speaker 2: mom is just getting destroyed, and and you know they 55 00:02:45,160 --> 00:02:47,040 Speaker 2: probably had to witness. I mean, we already know from 56 00:02:47,040 --> 00:02:50,000 Speaker 2: the TMZ video that was leaked last week that one 57 00:02:50,040 --> 00:02:51,960 Speaker 2: of the children at least was present, or two of 58 00:02:51,960 --> 00:02:53,480 Speaker 2: the children, because one of them, one of the children 59 00:02:53,520 --> 00:02:56,320 Speaker 2: was upstairs throwing up, and it was just like God, 60 00:02:56,360 --> 00:02:58,520 Speaker 2: these poor kids. I mean, when, what do you think 61 00:02:58,520 --> 00:02:59,079 Speaker 2: about all this? 62 00:02:59,440 --> 00:03:03,079 Speaker 1: I think, you know, obviously this is a third allegation 63 00:03:03,280 --> 00:03:06,919 Speaker 1: that we are hearing about, so we don't know. Again, 64 00:03:07,120 --> 00:03:11,480 Speaker 1: she's not been charged with anything or arrested for anything, 65 00:03:11,800 --> 00:03:16,160 Speaker 1: but it's not a good sign to continually. You know, 66 00:03:16,200 --> 00:03:20,000 Speaker 1: we're like less than a week from them pulling the 67 00:03:20,000 --> 00:03:24,040 Speaker 1: plug on the show and another allegation coming forward, So 68 00:03:24,360 --> 00:03:26,040 Speaker 1: I think we should dive into this because I think 69 00:03:26,040 --> 00:03:28,080 Speaker 1: it is interesting what you pointed out to me about 70 00:03:28,120 --> 00:03:31,760 Speaker 1: the timeline of everything, kind of putting this all together, 71 00:03:32,760 --> 00:03:37,000 Speaker 1: because it says that officials are investigating allegations of a 72 00:03:37,040 --> 00:03:40,240 Speaker 1: third domestic violence incident involving secret lives of Mormon Wives 73 00:03:40,240 --> 00:03:44,360 Speaker 1: stars Taylor, Frankie Paul, and Decota Martinsen. Police spokesman told 74 00:03:44,520 --> 00:03:49,240 Speaker 1: NBC on Tuesday, Dakota contacted the West Jordan, Utah Police 75 00:03:49,240 --> 00:03:53,800 Speaker 1: Department last month with allegations of domestic violence against Taylor 76 00:03:53,960 --> 00:03:57,840 Speaker 1: stemming from an incident in twenty twenty four. The spokesperson 77 00:03:57,960 --> 00:04:01,400 Speaker 1: added that he could not provide further detail, citing that 78 00:04:01,480 --> 00:04:05,560 Speaker 1: it was an open investigation. So we already know that 79 00:04:05,640 --> 00:04:08,120 Speaker 1: there was the twenty twenty three incident, which is the 80 00:04:08,120 --> 00:04:10,600 Speaker 1: one that we've all seen the footage from, and that's 81 00:04:10,640 --> 00:04:14,600 Speaker 1: the one she was arrested and charged that night. Now, 82 00:04:14,640 --> 00:04:18,800 Speaker 1: she was also on probation for that twenty twenty three incident. 83 00:04:19,040 --> 00:04:23,240 Speaker 1: She was on probation while she was filming the show. Yeah, 84 00:04:23,360 --> 00:04:25,760 Speaker 1: the show knew she was on probation. I just want 85 00:04:25,760 --> 00:04:29,560 Speaker 1: everybody to know that that that was not a surprise, 86 00:04:30,279 --> 00:04:32,960 Speaker 1: and we can go further into that that they knew 87 00:04:33,000 --> 00:04:36,080 Speaker 1: she was on probation because they couldn't actually film outside 88 00:04:36,080 --> 00:04:40,800 Speaker 1: of the US because she's interested. So her filming, I 89 00:04:40,839 --> 00:04:43,599 Speaker 1: believe the finale took place in Saint Lucia, which is 90 00:04:43,680 --> 00:04:47,880 Speaker 1: I think part of a US territory terratory. Yeah, that's 91 00:04:48,000 --> 00:04:51,480 Speaker 1: why there was no international travel for her season. 92 00:04:51,800 --> 00:04:52,160 Speaker 3: Okay. 93 00:04:52,440 --> 00:04:55,359 Speaker 2: I asked this question on this like a twenty twenty 94 00:04:55,360 --> 00:05:00,000 Speaker 2: four incident, So okay, the twenty twenty three incident clearly. 95 00:05:01,279 --> 00:05:03,880 Speaker 3: Was where all this originally was stemming from. 96 00:05:03,960 --> 00:05:06,440 Speaker 2: Right, The season was canceled based on the footage we 97 00:05:06,480 --> 00:05:08,600 Speaker 2: saw on TMZ and everywhere else. 98 00:05:08,760 --> 00:05:11,240 Speaker 1: But to be clear, we all knew about this, and. 99 00:05:11,440 --> 00:05:13,719 Speaker 3: We knew about that, and they knew, and then producers knew. 100 00:05:13,880 --> 00:05:17,040 Speaker 1: Producers knew this was covered on her other show. It 101 00:05:17,080 --> 00:05:20,000 Speaker 1: was in the very first episode. We already knew. We 102 00:05:20,080 --> 00:05:22,359 Speaker 1: have seen her. She has openly talked about this on 103 00:05:22,480 --> 00:05:25,400 Speaker 1: numerous podcasts over the years, so it was not a 104 00:05:25,480 --> 00:05:30,080 Speaker 1: secret at all. But the footage was the kicker because 105 00:05:30,120 --> 00:05:33,640 Speaker 1: we had ever seen that, and that is clearly what's 106 00:05:33,640 --> 00:05:37,200 Speaker 1: solidified there be damning didn't to yank it off. Now 107 00:05:37,480 --> 00:05:40,000 Speaker 1: we also know that there was something that happened last 108 00:05:40,040 --> 00:05:43,400 Speaker 1: month in February either the twenty third, twenty fourth, that's 109 00:05:43,440 --> 00:05:46,400 Speaker 1: a little muddled there, but we know that something happened 110 00:05:46,440 --> 00:05:49,719 Speaker 1: between her and Dakota, which then led to the Mormon 111 00:05:49,760 --> 00:05:53,440 Speaker 1: wives banding together and saying we are not comfortable filming. 112 00:05:53,720 --> 00:05:58,839 Speaker 1: So cameras are currently down on that show. Now, Taylor 113 00:05:59,120 --> 00:06:03,560 Speaker 1: still traveled to Los Angeles, attended the Academy Awards, had 114 00:06:03,600 --> 00:06:09,000 Speaker 1: her special air all before that situation was made known 115 00:06:09,200 --> 00:06:13,360 Speaker 1: that Sunday night. Yeah, so what it looks like is 116 00:06:13,480 --> 00:06:16,960 Speaker 1: whatever this twenty twenty four incident was My guess in 117 00:06:17,040 --> 00:06:21,120 Speaker 1: reading this article would be that not only did Dakota 118 00:06:22,279 --> 00:06:25,159 Speaker 1: talk to cops about whatever maybe happened on the twenty third, 119 00:06:25,440 --> 00:06:28,200 Speaker 1: but he also said, oh, and there's something from twenty 120 00:06:28,240 --> 00:06:32,080 Speaker 1: twenty four I should tell you about, and allegedly, you know, 121 00:06:32,200 --> 00:06:34,719 Speaker 1: maybe he went into detail. Then maybe he's been in 122 00:06:34,760 --> 00:06:38,080 Speaker 1: communications with the cops, you know, in these last three 123 00:06:38,120 --> 00:06:41,920 Speaker 1: weeks and has decided to bring this up. It definitely 124 00:06:42,000 --> 00:06:47,600 Speaker 1: sounds like an evolving timeline of situation that we're following. 125 00:06:48,320 --> 00:06:50,840 Speaker 2: I question a couple things, so, you know, the twenty 126 00:06:50,880 --> 00:06:54,120 Speaker 2: twenty four incident like that being conversationally brought up and 127 00:06:54,160 --> 00:06:57,760 Speaker 2: I'm sure you know, knowing what we now know of Taylor, 128 00:06:57,839 --> 00:07:01,160 Speaker 2: he probably had his camera rolling, is phone working at 129 00:07:01,160 --> 00:07:01,960 Speaker 2: that point in time. 130 00:07:02,480 --> 00:07:05,359 Speaker 3: But you know, if she was on probation already. 131 00:07:06,920 --> 00:07:09,080 Speaker 2: Then and that was from twenty twenty three incident, my 132 00:07:09,160 --> 00:07:12,400 Speaker 2: guess would be that that twenty twenty four incident, if 133 00:07:12,400 --> 00:07:14,840 Speaker 2: it were to have been brought up, was probably brought 134 00:07:14,960 --> 00:07:19,720 Speaker 2: up about violating the probation right or something of that nature. 135 00:07:19,760 --> 00:07:23,320 Speaker 1: We already we've seen reports that whatever the incident was 136 00:07:23,440 --> 00:07:27,320 Speaker 1: last month could be if it moves forward, because again 137 00:07:27,360 --> 00:07:31,920 Speaker 1: there's no arrest or anything has happened in whatever happened 138 00:07:31,960 --> 00:07:34,840 Speaker 1: last month. I just note that the cops were called. 139 00:07:34,880 --> 00:07:37,680 Speaker 1: That's the only like finite thing that we know. But 140 00:07:37,800 --> 00:07:40,920 Speaker 1: that situation, yes, could be if it moves forward, would 141 00:07:40,960 --> 00:07:44,160 Speaker 1: be a violation of her parole, which could then mean 142 00:07:44,200 --> 00:07:48,119 Speaker 1: because her twenty twenty three situation, as part of the 143 00:07:48,160 --> 00:07:51,960 Speaker 1: plea deal that she took, she has to remain in 144 00:07:52,040 --> 00:07:55,920 Speaker 1: good standing. I'm not a lawyer during her probation. Otherwise, 145 00:07:56,160 --> 00:07:59,480 Speaker 1: the charges from twenty twenty three will not be lessened 146 00:07:59,800 --> 00:08:02,720 Speaker 1: that as part of that, and she'll actually get a 147 00:08:02,720 --> 00:08:10,320 Speaker 1: firmer sentence, sentence or felony attached to her for violating 148 00:08:10,360 --> 00:08:13,520 Speaker 1: her parole and increased charges, but it does say here 149 00:08:13,840 --> 00:08:17,800 Speaker 1: it says the department is reviewing multiple videos connected to 150 00:08:17,840 --> 00:08:20,960 Speaker 1: the alleged event to figure out details and timelines. So 151 00:08:21,040 --> 00:08:22,600 Speaker 1: I think we're not the only ones who are a 152 00:08:22,600 --> 00:08:26,080 Speaker 1: little confused on the timeline. The spokesman said he could 153 00:08:26,080 --> 00:08:29,160 Speaker 1: not share the exact dates of the twenty twenty four incident, 154 00:08:29,640 --> 00:08:33,679 Speaker 1: and police have only Dakota's account of the alleged twenty 155 00:08:33,760 --> 00:08:39,360 Speaker 1: twenty four incident. So we're definitely going to be following 156 00:08:39,400 --> 00:08:44,080 Speaker 1: this story as it keeps continuing to progress almost daily. 157 00:08:44,240 --> 00:08:45,960 Speaker 1: At this point, it's got. 158 00:08:45,720 --> 00:08:47,880 Speaker 3: To be so hard. I mean, think about this from 159 00:08:47,920 --> 00:08:49,079 Speaker 3: a mental health perspective. 160 00:08:49,120 --> 00:08:52,560 Speaker 2: And this is not joking at all, like not making 161 00:08:52,640 --> 00:08:55,160 Speaker 2: light of this, because I think it's very serious to 162 00:08:55,280 --> 00:09:00,240 Speaker 2: go from the height of your premiere, right, I mean, 163 00:09:00,240 --> 00:09:03,400 Speaker 2: your show is preparing to premiere, and so you're doing 164 00:09:03,440 --> 00:09:07,000 Speaker 2: this press around it, and you're excited, and you know, 165 00:09:07,120 --> 00:09:09,800 Speaker 2: regardless of what the outcome was, it's going to be 166 00:09:09,840 --> 00:09:12,560 Speaker 2: a huge moment in your life, in your family's life. 167 00:09:13,160 --> 00:09:19,000 Speaker 2: And to go from that high to then the video 168 00:09:19,080 --> 00:09:22,319 Speaker 2: being leaked and all these other things happening. I mean, 169 00:09:22,440 --> 00:09:25,200 Speaker 2: I can't even and now you know, calling into question 170 00:09:25,240 --> 00:09:27,840 Speaker 2: whether or not. I mean, I'm sure this stuff is 171 00:09:27,880 --> 00:09:31,840 Speaker 2: being released in a way to create a custody situation 172 00:09:31,920 --> 00:09:34,959 Speaker 2: that will be favorable for the individual releasing that video, right, 173 00:09:35,040 --> 00:09:37,360 Speaker 2: I mean, I don't know the guy, but I can't 174 00:09:37,360 --> 00:09:40,640 Speaker 2: imagine that that's being released in any other capacity. 175 00:09:41,160 --> 00:09:45,120 Speaker 1: Well, we know he's been granted a restraining order from her, 176 00:09:45,480 --> 00:09:48,959 Speaker 1: and he has been granted temporary soul custody of their child, 177 00:09:49,600 --> 00:09:53,960 Speaker 1: so she's not allowed to see their kid, have contact 178 00:09:54,400 --> 00:09:58,000 Speaker 1: with him until they're hearing, which I believe is April 179 00:09:58,080 --> 00:10:02,520 Speaker 1: seventh as of right now. So it is really taking 180 00:10:02,559 --> 00:10:05,800 Speaker 1: a hard turn in the last I mean, we're talking, 181 00:10:06,080 --> 00:10:09,200 Speaker 1: you know, week, and I agree with you that it 182 00:10:09,280 --> 00:10:13,400 Speaker 1: is for anybody's mental health that would be a lot. 183 00:10:14,280 --> 00:10:18,600 Speaker 1: But she's really under they both are really under a 184 00:10:18,640 --> 00:10:23,800 Speaker 1: microscope right now, and in terms of public scrutiny and 185 00:10:24,120 --> 00:10:27,800 Speaker 1: in terms of how fast the Internet is moving, there's 186 00:10:27,840 --> 00:10:31,280 Speaker 1: no way that they are not both facing an influx 187 00:10:31,480 --> 00:10:37,640 Speaker 1: of really dangerous and kind of harmful messages to themselves, 188 00:10:37,640 --> 00:10:40,360 Speaker 1: which is why and again I hate that we have 189 00:10:40,440 --> 00:10:44,280 Speaker 1: to say this every single time we get on Nobody 190 00:10:44,600 --> 00:10:48,440 Speaker 1: is condoning acts of violence or saying that what she 191 00:10:48,559 --> 00:10:51,320 Speaker 1: did was okay. Nobody is saying that. At the end 192 00:10:51,360 --> 00:10:54,080 Speaker 1: of the day, we are saying that these are human beings, 193 00:10:54,640 --> 00:10:57,280 Speaker 1: and as much as we don't condone what they did, 194 00:10:57,840 --> 00:11:00,880 Speaker 1: we're not the judge and jury in this situation of 195 00:11:00,920 --> 00:11:06,240 Speaker 1: anybody's life. And we just know that she is facing 196 00:11:06,320 --> 00:11:10,800 Speaker 1: an influx of negative comments and any of us know 197 00:11:11,280 --> 00:11:15,240 Speaker 1: how that damaging that can be to somebody's mental health 198 00:11:15,760 --> 00:11:19,120 Speaker 1: who already has shown signs personally on their accounts that 199 00:11:19,160 --> 00:11:23,000 Speaker 1: they are really struggling. So, I mean, we talked about 200 00:11:23,000 --> 00:11:27,200 Speaker 1: this yesterday on the show, but she's been still very 201 00:11:27,240 --> 00:11:30,120 Speaker 1: active on social media, and a lot of us have 202 00:11:30,280 --> 00:11:32,400 Speaker 1: to say that we don't think that that's a smart move. 203 00:11:33,000 --> 00:11:35,880 Speaker 1: And you're in a place tailor where you can pass 204 00:11:35,920 --> 00:11:38,840 Speaker 1: the phone off to somebody else. It's not doing you 205 00:11:38,880 --> 00:11:43,679 Speaker 1: any favors to be on your phone. And if Dakota's 206 00:11:43,720 --> 00:11:47,560 Speaker 1: on his phone, I'd say the same thing. Again, we 207 00:11:47,640 --> 00:11:52,720 Speaker 1: don't condone anything that's happening volatile between them at all. 208 00:11:53,160 --> 00:11:56,200 Speaker 1: It's just get off your phones, that's all we're saying. 209 00:11:56,240 --> 00:11:58,839 Speaker 2: Yeah, Yeah, focus on the things that need to be 210 00:11:58,920 --> 00:11:59,360 Speaker 2: focused on. 211 00:11:59,400 --> 00:12:01,199 Speaker 3: I mean there but for the grace of God. 212 00:12:01,320 --> 00:12:03,000 Speaker 2: Right, It's like, you never know what it's like to 213 00:12:03,000 --> 00:12:04,800 Speaker 2: live in someone else's shoes and to go through what 214 00:12:04,840 --> 00:12:07,480 Speaker 2: they go through. And I I really do try to 215 00:12:07,920 --> 00:12:10,080 Speaker 2: hold back my judgment on things, but man, when the 216 00:12:10,120 --> 00:12:13,080 Speaker 2: kids are involved, it's like, come on, you guys, Like 217 00:12:13,640 --> 00:12:18,640 Speaker 2: at this point, you know, it's it's almost like in 218 00:12:18,679 --> 00:12:21,840 Speaker 2: my mind and I know I'm probably gonna grief for this, 219 00:12:21,960 --> 00:12:25,880 Speaker 2: but in my mind, I think, whatever Dakota is trying 220 00:12:25,920 --> 00:12:30,280 Speaker 2: to do, he's done it, and now it's just piling 221 00:12:30,320 --> 00:12:33,320 Speaker 2: on and it's it's almost like, Okay, there's enough out there. 222 00:12:33,720 --> 00:12:37,720 Speaker 2: Let's just sit back and let it unfold. Whatever's going 223 00:12:37,760 --> 00:12:39,840 Speaker 2: to happen is going to happen. But at the end 224 00:12:39,880 --> 00:12:42,360 Speaker 2: of the day, it's like, this is still your child's mother, 225 00:12:42,559 --> 00:12:44,320 Speaker 2: you know, and and for. 226 00:12:44,240 --> 00:12:46,360 Speaker 1: Her then you're going to be tied to for the 227 00:12:46,400 --> 00:12:48,400 Speaker 1: rest of the rest of your life. 228 00:12:49,640 --> 00:12:54,120 Speaker 2: And for her, this is still your child's father. And 229 00:12:54,160 --> 00:12:56,440 Speaker 2: it's like, you know, so it's like, get out of 230 00:12:56,440 --> 00:12:59,600 Speaker 2: your own head space. Not that they haven't, but it's like, think, 231 00:12:59,640 --> 00:13:02,280 Speaker 2: put your literally put your child first, like for one 232 00:13:02,320 --> 00:13:04,800 Speaker 2: minute and be like, Okay, you know what, I'm turning 233 00:13:04,800 --> 00:13:05,840 Speaker 2: off social media. 234 00:13:06,200 --> 00:13:08,400 Speaker 3: I'm getting out of this. I'm like, I don't know. 235 00:13:08,480 --> 00:13:09,880 Speaker 2: I think I'm trying to think what I would do 236 00:13:09,960 --> 00:13:12,280 Speaker 2: in these situations, but it's just so far removed from 237 00:13:12,040 --> 00:13:16,800 Speaker 2: my personal life that I don't know how I would 238 00:13:16,880 --> 00:13:17,280 Speaker 2: handle it. 239 00:13:17,320 --> 00:13:19,160 Speaker 3: But I gotta believe I would pump the brakes on 240 00:13:19,200 --> 00:13:19,920 Speaker 3: a lot of stuff. 241 00:13:20,240 --> 00:13:22,560 Speaker 1: But I think that's a good point, Bob. It's so 242 00:13:22,840 --> 00:13:27,520 Speaker 1: out of all of our personal lives. Anybody listening to podcasts, 243 00:13:27,760 --> 00:13:30,160 Speaker 1: anybody that's even maybe had a stint on the show 244 00:13:30,200 --> 00:13:34,560 Speaker 1: in the past, we are talking about another level that 245 00:13:34,880 --> 00:13:38,000 Speaker 1: has probably not been reached in previous seasons. We are 246 00:13:38,040 --> 00:13:41,760 Speaker 1: talking about This is in the headlines on major publications 247 00:13:41,920 --> 00:13:42,839 Speaker 1: every single. 248 00:13:42,600 --> 00:13:45,240 Speaker 3: Day, everywhere. This is Yeah, this is. 249 00:13:45,200 --> 00:13:48,040 Speaker 1: One of the top stories in the country right now. 250 00:13:48,120 --> 00:13:50,280 Speaker 1: And I hate to even say that because there's a 251 00:13:50,360 --> 00:13:53,120 Speaker 1: lot of other really important things happening. 252 00:13:53,320 --> 00:13:53,560 Speaker 2: Yeah. 253 00:13:53,760 --> 00:13:58,720 Speaker 1: Yeah, but you guys have to understand that this is 254 00:13:59,240 --> 00:14:05,320 Speaker 1: a level of media scrutiny that nobody listening or that 255 00:14:05,360 --> 00:14:07,880 Speaker 1: has been on this show can relate to, maybe other 256 00:14:07,920 --> 00:14:08,720 Speaker 1: than Comparrison. 257 00:14:09,600 --> 00:14:11,760 Speaker 3: Yeah yeah, when he was going through his thing. 258 00:14:11,880 --> 00:14:15,000 Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, that's the level that we're talking about, 259 00:14:15,040 --> 00:14:19,080 Speaker 1: like this is very, very large, and so none of 260 00:14:19,160 --> 00:14:21,880 Speaker 1: us we can all sit back and say what we 261 00:14:21,920 --> 00:14:24,640 Speaker 1: would do or what we would not do, But none 262 00:14:24,640 --> 00:14:27,440 Speaker 1: of us have been in this situation. No, never, and 263 00:14:27,680 --> 00:14:31,320 Speaker 1: we never will, and so we don't know what's going on. 264 00:14:31,960 --> 00:14:35,600 Speaker 1: But I really do hope that you know she has 265 00:14:35,760 --> 00:14:38,560 Speaker 1: taken time in the past to prioritize her mental health 266 00:14:38,600 --> 00:14:41,520 Speaker 1: and take breaks and step away here and there. I 267 00:14:41,560 --> 00:14:44,720 Speaker 1: think she needs something more intensive. I think that whatever 268 00:14:44,760 --> 00:14:47,360 Speaker 1: she's done in the past has given her some of 269 00:14:47,400 --> 00:14:51,520 Speaker 1: the tools, but she needs to really just step away 270 00:14:51,560 --> 00:14:54,760 Speaker 1: for a second. Yeah, I think that you know, it's 271 00:14:54,760 --> 00:15:00,400 Speaker 1: not admitting defeat by stepping away and prioritizing it's act. Actually, 272 00:15:00,800 --> 00:15:02,920 Speaker 1: that's the best way probably that you can be the 273 00:15:02,960 --> 00:15:06,440 Speaker 1: best mom and show up for you is right once 274 00:15:06,480 --> 00:15:10,560 Speaker 1: you show up for yourself. So and Dakota, I hope 275 00:15:10,600 --> 00:15:14,320 Speaker 1: you get help too. You've clearly endured stuff. We've seen 276 00:15:14,400 --> 00:15:17,160 Speaker 1: the footage. We understand that, and we know that, and 277 00:15:17,240 --> 00:15:19,720 Speaker 1: I think you need help as well. You need help 278 00:15:19,840 --> 00:15:23,120 Speaker 1: on how to you know, co parent and deal with 279 00:15:23,160 --> 00:15:27,520 Speaker 1: somebody that has done that to you physically, and how 280 00:15:27,560 --> 00:15:31,440 Speaker 1: to have a relationship with that person, how to raise 281 00:15:31,440 --> 00:15:35,160 Speaker 1: a co parent with that person. So you need help 282 00:15:35,200 --> 00:15:38,440 Speaker 1: as well, because what we saw in that video footage 283 00:15:38,480 --> 00:15:42,320 Speaker 1: was you being a victim of domestic violence and that's 284 00:15:42,320 --> 00:15:46,240 Speaker 1: not okay, and you deserve to have somebody help you 285 00:15:46,280 --> 00:15:48,360 Speaker 1: and work on your mental health to get through that 286 00:15:48,400 --> 00:15:49,480 Speaker 1: situation as well. 287 00:15:50,160 --> 00:15:53,240 Speaker 3: Yeah, no doubt, it's really well put. 288 00:15:53,240 --> 00:15:54,360 Speaker 2: I mean, I think at the end of the day, 289 00:15:54,360 --> 00:15:55,800 Speaker 2: it's one of those things where you look at it 290 00:15:55,840 --> 00:15:58,360 Speaker 2: and it's just sort of like, my God, Like whether 291 00:15:58,400 --> 00:15:59,400 Speaker 2: what are other two children? 292 00:15:59,440 --> 00:16:01,960 Speaker 3: Like, does anyone know what's going on with the other 293 00:16:02,000 --> 00:16:05,840 Speaker 3: two kids? Are they with her? Are they with their father? 294 00:16:06,600 --> 00:16:09,080 Speaker 1: I believe they're with her father. We did see a 295 00:16:09,120 --> 00:16:14,480 Speaker 1: report about her father going to the Utah courthouse weirdly 296 00:16:14,600 --> 00:16:16,160 Speaker 1: enough or not weirdly who knows? 297 00:16:16,440 --> 00:16:20,240 Speaker 3: Wait, so the children are with her ex husband? Yeah, okay, so. 298 00:16:20,280 --> 00:16:24,280 Speaker 1: Her ex husband weirdly enough or maybe was a planed thing. 299 00:16:24,600 --> 00:16:27,200 Speaker 1: I don't know. Her ex husband showed up at the 300 00:16:27,200 --> 00:16:30,920 Speaker 1: courthouse the same day that Dakota showed up at the 301 00:16:30,960 --> 00:16:34,280 Speaker 1: courthouse to file his motion for a restraining order and 302 00:16:34,360 --> 00:16:39,920 Speaker 1: for temporary custody, and the paparazzi caught them like intercepting 303 00:16:40,080 --> 00:16:43,000 Speaker 1: like talking to each other at the courthouse both met boy. 304 00:16:43,440 --> 00:16:46,240 Speaker 1: So I think, you know, as much as we've come 305 00:16:46,280 --> 00:16:48,400 Speaker 1: to see in this last week that there's a new 306 00:16:48,440 --> 00:16:51,560 Speaker 1: headline every couple of hours every day or something, I 307 00:16:51,600 --> 00:16:54,840 Speaker 1: don't think that this story is going away anytime soon. 308 00:16:55,880 --> 00:16:58,120 Speaker 1: I think what will make things go away is when you, 309 00:16:58,160 --> 00:17:01,680 Speaker 1: like I said, step away out of spotlight and you're 310 00:17:01,880 --> 00:17:04,280 Speaker 1: off working on yourself. There's not a whole lot people 311 00:17:04,280 --> 00:17:07,320 Speaker 1: can say and do when you're not engaging and you're 312 00:17:07,359 --> 00:17:10,919 Speaker 1: not helping to fan the flames. So that's why I 313 00:17:10,960 --> 00:17:14,840 Speaker 1: think it's also a smart move to go away, because 314 00:17:15,119 --> 00:17:20,560 Speaker 1: this just keeps. It's like it's it's just pouring gasoline 315 00:17:20,600 --> 00:17:36,520 Speaker 1: on this fire. You know, with ABC choosing Bob not 316 00:17:36,680 --> 00:17:41,800 Speaker 1: to use words like cancelation when they made the announcement, 317 00:17:42,359 --> 00:17:44,880 Speaker 1: a lot of people are speculating on the internet that 318 00:17:45,040 --> 00:17:47,800 Speaker 1: we're still going to see this season at some point. 319 00:17:48,880 --> 00:17:50,880 Speaker 1: What do you think about that? Do you think we'll 320 00:17:50,920 --> 00:17:51,960 Speaker 1: ever see this season? 321 00:17:52,359 --> 00:17:55,080 Speaker 2: I thought, like everyone else, quite frankly, I thought, you 322 00:17:55,080 --> 00:17:57,440 Speaker 2: know what, they're going to take a step back, They're 323 00:17:57,440 --> 00:18:00,880 Speaker 2: going to let this thing die down, and then somehow, 324 00:18:00,880 --> 00:18:03,399 Speaker 2: some way they're going to do it but you know, 325 00:18:03,440 --> 00:18:05,640 Speaker 2: the more stuff that comes out, I think, I think 326 00:18:05,640 --> 00:18:10,200 Speaker 2: the more and more public sentiment is against that, right. 327 00:18:10,280 --> 00:18:12,320 Speaker 2: I think one of the things that you know, I've 328 00:18:12,359 --> 00:18:15,199 Speaker 2: been reading and I can only imagine how it feels 329 00:18:15,200 --> 00:18:16,880 Speaker 2: to read this, But you know, they're like click, quit 330 00:18:16,920 --> 00:18:18,800 Speaker 2: giving these people a platform, you know, is what people 331 00:18:18,800 --> 00:18:23,200 Speaker 2: are saying. And and you know, I get it, right, 332 00:18:23,280 --> 00:18:24,840 Speaker 2: It's like, well, you know, if you don't put a 333 00:18:24,840 --> 00:18:26,840 Speaker 2: TV show on, then with them on it, then they're 334 00:18:26,840 --> 00:18:28,919 Speaker 2: not famous anymore, right, or whatever it might be. 335 00:18:29,119 --> 00:18:31,800 Speaker 3: And so I understand the feeling behind that. 336 00:18:32,960 --> 00:18:36,960 Speaker 2: You know. Unfortunately, uh, television is big business, as we 337 00:18:37,040 --> 00:18:40,200 Speaker 2: both know, and I think if there were some type 338 00:18:40,240 --> 00:18:42,760 Speaker 2: of medium for them to put that out and recoup 339 00:18:42,840 --> 00:18:45,480 Speaker 2: some of their losses, they probably would. I just don't 340 00:18:45,520 --> 00:18:46,800 Speaker 2: know what the time, I don't know what the timing 341 00:18:46,840 --> 00:18:50,320 Speaker 2: of that would be. But but who knows. Maybe maybe 342 00:18:50,359 --> 00:18:53,920 Speaker 2: it's such a negative sentiment around it that they're realizing 343 00:18:54,000 --> 00:18:55,840 Speaker 2: they need to cut their losses and be like, you 344 00:18:55,880 --> 00:18:58,760 Speaker 2: know what, we try to deviate from what the show's 345 00:18:58,800 --> 00:19:01,720 Speaker 2: always been about, and you know, we thought we would 346 00:19:01,760 --> 00:19:03,440 Speaker 2: do something a little bit different. We realized that that's 347 00:19:03,480 --> 00:19:06,199 Speaker 2: not the recipe for our fans and for our for 348 00:19:06,280 --> 00:19:08,119 Speaker 2: our franchise, and you know, we're going to go back 349 00:19:08,160 --> 00:19:09,119 Speaker 2: to basics or something. 350 00:19:09,160 --> 00:19:11,399 Speaker 3: I don't know. I don't know how they spin this. 351 00:19:11,480 --> 00:19:14,440 Speaker 2: I'm sure there's a lot of crisis counselors and Crisliss crisis, 352 00:19:15,040 --> 00:19:18,840 Speaker 2: you know, public relations people out there that are already 353 00:19:18,840 --> 00:19:21,080 Speaker 2: working on the different spins that we'll be hearing over 354 00:19:21,119 --> 00:19:22,800 Speaker 2: the next weeks and months. 355 00:19:22,800 --> 00:19:27,840 Speaker 3: But I don't know. I mean, honestly, would I watch it? 356 00:19:27,920 --> 00:19:29,200 Speaker 3: I gotta be honest, I. 357 00:19:29,119 --> 00:19:31,480 Speaker 2: Don't know that I was going to watch it previous 358 00:19:31,600 --> 00:19:34,600 Speaker 2: to a lot of this, And that's just me being 359 00:19:34,720 --> 00:19:39,959 Speaker 2: really honest. I liked the idea of I've always liked 360 00:19:40,000 --> 00:19:42,320 Speaker 2: the idea. Maybe it was because, you know, Tristan I 361 00:19:42,440 --> 00:19:45,760 Speaker 2: kind of started this whole thing of being a rehash 362 00:19:46,040 --> 00:19:50,239 Speaker 2: that you know, the public likes and embraces and then 363 00:19:50,280 --> 00:19:50,720 Speaker 2: you get a. 364 00:19:50,720 --> 00:19:53,240 Speaker 3: Chance to find love yourself and does it work? Does 365 00:19:53,280 --> 00:19:54,159 Speaker 3: it not work? Whatever? 366 00:19:55,160 --> 00:19:58,520 Speaker 2: But I think, you know, having someone who's already established 367 00:19:58,600 --> 00:20:03,320 Speaker 2: notoriety and fame another avenue and bringing them into this, 368 00:20:04,520 --> 00:20:06,520 Speaker 2: you know, I think I think we dance with the 369 00:20:06,560 --> 00:20:08,680 Speaker 2: devil a little bit, and when now we're getting burned, right, 370 00:20:08,720 --> 00:20:11,359 Speaker 2: It's like, if you go back to the basics of 371 00:20:11,400 --> 00:20:13,600 Speaker 2: what got this franchise to where it is, it was 372 00:20:13,640 --> 00:20:17,320 Speaker 2: always building up and lifting up from within, you know. 373 00:20:17,480 --> 00:20:19,720 Speaker 3: And so I mean, we see each. 374 00:20:19,560 --> 00:20:22,919 Speaker 2: Other at events, we share these experiences that you know, 375 00:20:23,840 --> 00:20:26,280 Speaker 2: regardless of where you were in the ratings or where 376 00:20:26,280 --> 00:20:28,720 Speaker 2: you were on your season, or even how long ago 377 00:20:28,720 --> 00:20:31,199 Speaker 2: it was or how current it was, we all kind 378 00:20:31,240 --> 00:20:32,960 Speaker 2: of had this common thread that was really kind of 379 00:20:32,960 --> 00:20:34,440 Speaker 2: a nice thing that we see at a lot of 380 00:20:34,520 --> 00:20:35,200 Speaker 2: things that we do. 381 00:20:35,920 --> 00:20:38,840 Speaker 3: And and now it's different. It's just different now. And 382 00:20:39,280 --> 00:20:39,800 Speaker 3: can you put the. 383 00:20:39,800 --> 00:20:41,719 Speaker 2: Genie back in the bottle? I don't know, you know, 384 00:20:41,960 --> 00:20:44,120 Speaker 2: but we'll find out, I guess. 385 00:20:44,280 --> 00:20:46,800 Speaker 1: But there's no denying that the show has been on 386 00:20:46,840 --> 00:20:52,040 Speaker 1: a decline and that experience wasn't tuning in for what 387 00:20:52,160 --> 00:20:55,600 Speaker 1: the show was known for because had seasons where people 388 00:20:55,640 --> 00:20:59,639 Speaker 1: were finding love Joey, Kadie and Zach, you know what 389 00:20:59,680 --> 00:21:05,720 Speaker 1: I mean, And yet not in its heyday, and unfortunately, 390 00:21:06,640 --> 00:21:09,600 Speaker 1: or fortunately, however you want to look at it, Mormon 391 00:21:09,680 --> 00:21:15,679 Speaker 1: Wives does numbers that Bachelor will not be able to 392 00:21:15,880 --> 00:21:20,239 Speaker 1: hit ever in like you know, and so it is 393 00:21:20,680 --> 00:21:24,640 Speaker 1: I understand why they did it. I think that they 394 00:21:24,840 --> 00:21:30,520 Speaker 1: underestimated who their talent was because I think that when 395 00:21:30,600 --> 00:21:34,359 Speaker 1: you come from within the Bachelor bubble, it's a very 396 00:21:34,800 --> 00:21:40,520 Speaker 1: controlled universe where you're able to really control who is 397 00:21:40,560 --> 00:21:43,840 Speaker 1: in that position, and most of the time that person 398 00:21:44,000 --> 00:21:48,320 Speaker 1: doesn't have the legs until after they've had their experience 399 00:21:48,359 --> 00:21:52,240 Speaker 1: on the show. You brought somebody in. And I'll say 400 00:21:52,280 --> 00:21:55,800 Speaker 1: it again, I've said it before. She didn't need the show. 401 00:21:56,480 --> 00:22:00,199 Speaker 1: No show needed her, and that's for the imbalance of 402 00:22:00,240 --> 00:22:07,760 Speaker 1: power started. And I would bet money that somebody wasn't 403 00:22:07,840 --> 00:22:11,639 Speaker 1: keeping her on a tight leash after filming was done. 404 00:22:12,280 --> 00:22:14,919 Speaker 1: And I guarantee you that they keep them on a 405 00:22:14,960 --> 00:22:18,479 Speaker 1: tight leash when they come from within the world. 406 00:22:18,680 --> 00:22:20,240 Speaker 3: They probably felt like they couldn't keep her on a 407 00:22:20,320 --> 00:22:21,680 Speaker 3: lease because she's her own. 408 00:22:21,520 --> 00:22:24,880 Speaker 1: Thing, right, But there's ways I think that you can. 409 00:22:25,080 --> 00:22:27,679 Speaker 1: Right Like, I don't know the ins and outs. I 410 00:22:27,680 --> 00:22:29,479 Speaker 1: don't work on that show. I don't work on her 411 00:22:29,520 --> 00:22:35,320 Speaker 1: other show. But you can have talent people producers assigned 412 00:22:35,320 --> 00:22:39,280 Speaker 1: to somebody who's constantly calling them, who's then giving those 413 00:22:39,359 --> 00:22:45,199 Speaker 1: updates to executives daily, who having her meet with a 414 00:22:45,280 --> 00:22:51,280 Speaker 1: therapist or a psychologist from the show on a regular basis. Having, 415 00:22:52,440 --> 00:22:58,680 Speaker 1: you know, encouraging her to implement hiring an assistant, or saying, hey, 416 00:22:59,000 --> 00:23:02,560 Speaker 1: how's the situation going with your your co parenting situation. Oh, 417 00:23:02,600 --> 00:23:05,640 Speaker 1: it sounds like it's going rough. How can we as 418 00:23:05,640 --> 00:23:09,000 Speaker 1: a company step in to help you? Because you're our 419 00:23:09,040 --> 00:23:11,520 Speaker 1: talent and we want you to feel like you are 420 00:23:11,720 --> 00:23:14,320 Speaker 1: being you know, watched over. We want you and your 421 00:23:14,359 --> 00:23:16,520 Speaker 1: best mental health when we start to send you out 422 00:23:16,520 --> 00:23:19,800 Speaker 1: to do press for this big season. How can we 423 00:23:19,960 --> 00:23:23,159 Speaker 1: help you? Right? Because we know that they helped her 424 00:23:23,200 --> 00:23:26,040 Speaker 1: when it came to childcare and it came to visiting 425 00:23:26,080 --> 00:23:29,199 Speaker 1: her kids while filming. This is the stuff that I 426 00:23:29,240 --> 00:23:31,040 Speaker 1: mean when people are like, well can they do that? 427 00:23:31,080 --> 00:23:33,560 Speaker 1: Can't be? Yeah, they can't. They do have the power 428 00:23:33,600 --> 00:23:35,719 Speaker 1: to do that kind of stuff. They were able to 429 00:23:35,720 --> 00:23:39,600 Speaker 1: do it when she was filming. You need to continue 430 00:23:39,600 --> 00:23:42,240 Speaker 1: that kind of care with your talent in the interim 431 00:23:42,240 --> 00:23:45,959 Speaker 1: before a show starts to air. And it costs money 432 00:23:46,080 --> 00:23:49,640 Speaker 1: and it takes time and it takes energy. But they 433 00:23:49,640 --> 00:23:51,199 Speaker 1: could have done that, and I'm going to bet that 434 00:23:51,240 --> 00:23:51,720 Speaker 1: they didn't. 435 00:23:52,320 --> 00:23:54,399 Speaker 3: Yeah, just to get her to the finish line, right, Like, 436 00:23:54,560 --> 00:23:55,400 Speaker 3: if nothing. 437 00:23:55,119 --> 00:23:58,120 Speaker 1: Else, Yeah, to everybody to the finish line. It gets 438 00:23:58,119 --> 00:24:02,720 Speaker 1: everybody to the finish line right again, It's like, could 439 00:24:02,960 --> 00:24:05,240 Speaker 1: could somebody be with her twenty four to seven? No, 440 00:24:05,320 --> 00:24:10,040 Speaker 1: I'm not saying that, but it sounds like she was 441 00:24:11,160 --> 00:24:16,320 Speaker 1: having some sort of volatile relationship with her ex baby daddy, 442 00:24:16,920 --> 00:24:20,919 Speaker 1: and it seems to be that everybody knows it, and 443 00:24:22,040 --> 00:24:27,880 Speaker 1: the other show capitalizes on that for sure, and nobody really, 444 00:24:28,160 --> 00:24:31,560 Speaker 1: I think, did their due diligence into how that is 445 00:24:31,600 --> 00:24:36,159 Speaker 1: it between them? Oh, somebody's got footage. Somebody's got a 446 00:24:36,200 --> 00:24:39,760 Speaker 1: lot of footage, Like I feel like we're seeing and 447 00:24:41,200 --> 00:24:43,639 Speaker 1: you guys can all go find the NBC article that 448 00:24:43,720 --> 00:24:46,479 Speaker 1: came out last week that has certain quotes from a 449 00:24:46,680 --> 00:24:51,240 Speaker 1: meeting that was recorded with Mormon Wives cast members. Those 450 00:24:51,280 --> 00:24:56,920 Speaker 1: quotes are not good and that you know, not enough 451 00:24:57,040 --> 00:25:00,320 Speaker 1: was done, and people listening to this might be like, Oh, 452 00:25:00,359 --> 00:25:03,000 Speaker 1: she's violin and why should we help her? And why 453 00:25:03,040 --> 00:25:06,280 Speaker 1: should we help I'm not talking about helping her. I'm 454 00:25:06,320 --> 00:25:10,720 Speaker 1: talking about how do you get a show to see 455 00:25:10,720 --> 00:25:14,120 Speaker 1: the light of day? You protect your product, and she's 456 00:25:14,200 --> 00:25:15,480 Speaker 1: part of that brand. 457 00:25:16,119 --> 00:25:19,480 Speaker 2: Yeah, I wonder how much I wonder I was gonna say, 458 00:25:19,480 --> 00:25:22,240 Speaker 2: I wonder how much she got paid to be the 459 00:25:22,240 --> 00:25:26,760 Speaker 2: Bachelorette because we obviously know having her having the background 460 00:25:26,800 --> 00:25:28,520 Speaker 2: that she had, she didn't do it for free. 461 00:25:28,600 --> 00:25:29,240 Speaker 3: That's for sure. 462 00:25:29,880 --> 00:25:31,680 Speaker 1: She didn't do it for free. And I can bet 463 00:25:31,800 --> 00:25:36,159 Speaker 1: that she didn't get the standard pay range at a 464 00:25:36,320 --> 00:25:41,199 Speaker 1: typical person to ask, because what happens is with a 465 00:25:41,280 --> 00:25:46,120 Speaker 1: typical contestant, they do not have the kind of following 466 00:25:46,240 --> 00:25:49,080 Speaker 1: and they definitely don't have the kind of following today 467 00:25:49,160 --> 00:25:53,760 Speaker 1: even post show that of the ones she has a day, well, 468 00:25:53,880 --> 00:25:57,200 Speaker 1: the contestants from the Heyday, like we're talking abouteen twenty 469 00:25:57,280 --> 00:26:00,879 Speaker 1: sixteen cast members, those cast members have huge followings, but 470 00:26:00,920 --> 00:26:03,760 Speaker 1: they only gained them after being on the show. She 471 00:26:03,960 --> 00:26:08,679 Speaker 1: actually has like five times that or something. Again, this 472 00:26:08,800 --> 00:26:11,280 Speaker 1: goes back to the show needed her. She didn't need 473 00:26:11,320 --> 00:26:15,880 Speaker 1: the show, because that's built in marketing for them when 474 00:26:15,920 --> 00:26:19,879 Speaker 1: she uses her platforms to promote the show. So that's 475 00:26:20,119 --> 00:26:24,720 Speaker 1: advertising for them, guys. That is like that's her brand, 476 00:26:24,880 --> 00:26:29,120 Speaker 1: that's her brand reaching. So that is part of her payment, 477 00:26:29,960 --> 00:26:33,280 Speaker 1: is that when she signs that contract is yes, she's 478 00:26:33,280 --> 00:26:35,320 Speaker 1: getting paid to shoot the show, but she's also getting 479 00:26:35,359 --> 00:26:37,400 Speaker 1: paid to go out there and do media for the show. 480 00:26:37,600 --> 00:26:40,560 Speaker 1: She's paid to be posting for the show when clip 481 00:26:40,720 --> 00:26:43,720 Speaker 1: stuff would go out like that's all part of it, 482 00:26:44,160 --> 00:26:48,480 Speaker 1: and they would have gotten stuff back from that that 483 00:26:48,560 --> 00:26:51,359 Speaker 1: they can't get from a typical contestant. And then also 484 00:26:51,400 --> 00:26:54,600 Speaker 1: probably the brand integrations. I'm sure brands that already worked 485 00:26:54,600 --> 00:26:56,879 Speaker 1: with her, either on her other show or work with 486 00:26:56,960 --> 00:26:59,239 Speaker 1: her outside of the show, were like, Oh, you're going 487 00:26:59,280 --> 00:27:03,960 Speaker 1: to be the Bachelorette. We want to take this energy 488 00:27:04,040 --> 00:27:06,560 Speaker 1: drink that you drink up a notch, and we want 489 00:27:06,560 --> 00:27:08,080 Speaker 1: to go up a notch, and we want to now 490 00:27:08,160 --> 00:27:11,200 Speaker 1: do an integration on the show because it gets Sennebon. 491 00:27:11,760 --> 00:27:15,080 Speaker 2: Senebon was doing a cross marketing campaign between the two shows, right, 492 00:27:15,119 --> 00:27:17,400 Speaker 2: and they were the first ones to pull out, which 493 00:27:17,400 --> 00:27:19,280 Speaker 2: is kind of what started this whole thing. I mean, 494 00:27:19,600 --> 00:27:20,760 Speaker 2: you know, at the end of the day, if it 495 00:27:21,320 --> 00:27:24,199 Speaker 2: part of me, also in the jaded part of me, 496 00:27:24,280 --> 00:27:26,880 Speaker 2: thinks that the advertiser's not been pulling out or threatening. 497 00:27:26,520 --> 00:27:29,119 Speaker 3: To pull out, the show probably would have still aired. 498 00:27:29,200 --> 00:27:31,960 Speaker 3: I mean, honestly, I feel like. 499 00:27:33,600 --> 00:27:36,240 Speaker 1: We still would have seen a hiatus, We still would 500 00:27:36,240 --> 00:27:38,800 Speaker 1: have seen it go on hold for a second. If 501 00:27:39,600 --> 00:27:42,280 Speaker 1: advertisers didn't pull out, I think we still would have 502 00:27:42,320 --> 00:27:45,560 Speaker 1: seen a pull We're going to hold for a second 503 00:27:46,000 --> 00:27:50,119 Speaker 1: while we see what's happening, because the internet outrage from 504 00:27:50,160 --> 00:28:03,400 Speaker 1: that video, again not something they anticipated, just went so crazy. 505 00:28:06,760 --> 00:28:10,280 Speaker 1: So back to this article, it says when Dakota first called, 506 00:28:10,280 --> 00:28:14,040 Speaker 1: the West Jordan spokesman said he told officials that he 507 00:28:14,600 --> 00:28:17,280 Speaker 1: was referred to the West Jordan Police Department by the 508 00:28:17,400 --> 00:28:20,320 Speaker 1: Draper Police Department because of the jurisdiction of the twenty 509 00:28:20,359 --> 00:28:24,920 Speaker 1: twenty four incident. Draper Police told NBC News that a separate, 510 00:28:25,080 --> 00:28:29,720 Speaker 1: open domestic violence investigation into Taylor and Dakota, with allegations 511 00:28:29,760 --> 00:28:32,840 Speaker 1: on both sides, was called in on February twenty fourth 512 00:28:32,880 --> 00:28:36,280 Speaker 1: and February twenty fifth. That's last month's incident that we're 513 00:28:36,280 --> 00:28:40,920 Speaker 1: talking about. That police department declined to share further details. 514 00:28:41,680 --> 00:28:45,400 Speaker 1: Salt Lake County District Attorney Sam Gill said in a 515 00:28:45,440 --> 00:28:50,280 Speaker 1: statement Tuesday that his office requested all the investigative material 516 00:28:50,360 --> 00:28:53,920 Speaker 1: to screen the most recent allegations for charges, and confirmed 517 00:28:53,960 --> 00:28:57,040 Speaker 1: that his office was looking into a case submitted by 518 00:28:57,200 --> 00:29:00,760 Speaker 1: Draper Police. Gill added in the statement, and we made 519 00:29:00,800 --> 00:29:04,440 Speaker 1: the request because of the potential that if charges are filed, 520 00:29:04,480 --> 00:29:09,920 Speaker 1: they could be enhanced to a domestic violence offence court 521 00:29:09,960 --> 00:29:13,440 Speaker 1: records indicate that Taylor pleaded guilty to an aggravated assault 522 00:29:13,560 --> 00:29:16,240 Speaker 1: charge in August twenty twenty three that stemmed from a 523 00:29:16,960 --> 00:29:19,560 Speaker 1: twenty twenty three domestic violence incident. That's the one we 524 00:29:19,560 --> 00:29:22,280 Speaker 1: saw the video of. For other charges in that case, 525 00:29:22,440 --> 00:29:26,080 Speaker 1: including assault, criminal mischief, and domestic violence in the presence 526 00:29:26,080 --> 00:29:29,880 Speaker 1: of a child, were dismissed with prejudice, the record shows. 527 00:29:30,080 --> 00:29:33,120 Speaker 1: So that was that plea deal that I talked about. Now, 528 00:29:33,160 --> 00:29:37,800 Speaker 1: obviously she's on probation for that. So if this situation 529 00:29:37,880 --> 00:29:41,880 Speaker 1: from last month, or this twenty twenty four situation a light, 530 00:29:42,080 --> 00:29:44,640 Speaker 1: that could be a violation of her probation, which could 531 00:29:44,640 --> 00:29:49,240 Speaker 1: make those charges from the twenty twenty three incident much larger. 532 00:29:49,360 --> 00:29:52,239 Speaker 1: So obviously there's a lot to process here. And like 533 00:29:52,280 --> 00:29:54,600 Speaker 1: I said, we're going to keep covering this on the show. 534 00:29:54,760 --> 00:29:58,000 Speaker 1: But any final thoughts about the franchise or where you 535 00:29:58,000 --> 00:29:59,040 Speaker 1: think it goes from here? 536 00:30:00,120 --> 00:30:03,920 Speaker 2: Oh, I mean, more so thoughts about about these two 537 00:30:03,960 --> 00:30:07,000 Speaker 2: and their children, Like I just you know, like I said, 538 00:30:07,000 --> 00:30:08,840 Speaker 2: there but for the grace of God. Right, So it's like, 539 00:30:08,880 --> 00:30:10,760 Speaker 2: you know, you watch people go through this stuff and 540 00:30:10,800 --> 00:30:12,840 Speaker 2: you're like, oh my god, this is appalling and then, 541 00:30:13,120 --> 00:30:13,800 Speaker 2: but you don't know what. 542 00:30:13,760 --> 00:30:16,640 Speaker 3: Got in there. You don't know, you know, you don't 543 00:30:16,640 --> 00:30:17,080 Speaker 3: know anything. 544 00:30:17,120 --> 00:30:18,959 Speaker 2: And so at the end of the day, I just 545 00:30:19,040 --> 00:30:22,120 Speaker 2: I feel for the kids, and I feel for everybody involved, 546 00:30:22,160 --> 00:30:25,520 Speaker 2: and I do. I mean, I don't know Taylor, Frankie, Paul, 547 00:30:25,560 --> 00:30:28,360 Speaker 2: but I feel for her in that, you know, the 548 00:30:28,720 --> 00:30:31,280 Speaker 2: just the fact that she's going through these highs and 549 00:30:31,320 --> 00:30:35,080 Speaker 2: lows with a family, and with her family watching it 550 00:30:35,120 --> 00:30:38,320 Speaker 2: all and her kids hearing it all, and it's just brutal, 551 00:30:38,520 --> 00:30:40,680 Speaker 2: you know, And so I just, man, I just I 552 00:30:40,720 --> 00:30:43,360 Speaker 2: hope they I hope they all get to somewhere that 553 00:30:43,400 --> 00:30:49,760 Speaker 2: they can live together and cohabitate some space, because they're 554 00:30:49,760 --> 00:30:51,880 Speaker 2: going to have to do that with having children together. 555 00:30:51,960 --> 00:30:58,360 Speaker 1: And absolutely, and I think you know, people love a 556 00:30:58,400 --> 00:31:02,720 Speaker 1: comeback story. Yeah, they love a takedown story even more. 557 00:31:03,280 --> 00:31:06,480 Speaker 1: And it's going to be rough here for a little bit. 558 00:31:06,600 --> 00:31:08,400 Speaker 1: But like I said, we're going to be bringing you 559 00:31:08,400 --> 00:31:10,840 Speaker 1: guys all the news on this because it is evolving 560 00:31:11,000 --> 00:31:14,960 Speaker 1: all the time. And so thanks Bob for jumping on. 561 00:31:15,800 --> 00:31:16,200 Speaker 3: Thank you. 562 00:31:16,640 --> 00:31:18,680 Speaker 2: I hope we get some other news to talk about, 563 00:31:18,720 --> 00:31:20,680 Speaker 2: some other stuff to talk about that, you know, maybe 564 00:31:20,720 --> 00:31:23,080 Speaker 2: some good news, like maybe all right, they were able 565 00:31:23,080 --> 00:31:25,800 Speaker 2: to work things out and now they're hunky dory, but 566 00:31:25,840 --> 00:31:27,280 Speaker 2: we're still not going to watch on TV for a 567 00:31:27,320 --> 00:31:30,400 Speaker 2: while or something like that. That just shows that there's 568 00:31:30,680 --> 00:31:33,760 Speaker 2: progress going in a different direction than down the toilet, 569 00:31:33,760 --> 00:31:35,200 Speaker 2: because that's all it feels like right now. 570 00:31:35,480 --> 00:31:39,040 Speaker 1: Exactly. Yeah, it's a cloud even for us just reporting 571 00:31:39,120 --> 00:31:43,200 Speaker 1: on it, all this negative stuff, but you know, for 572 00:31:43,320 --> 00:31:45,480 Speaker 1: sure we're hoping to see some good news come out 573 00:31:45,480 --> 00:31:46,200 Speaker 1: of this as well. 574 00:31:46,840 --> 00:31:50,479 Speaker 3: Absolutely, Well, it was a pleasure talking with you. 575 00:31:51,000 --> 00:31:53,280 Speaker 1: Likewise, thanks Bob, Lovely Day. 576 00:31:53,320 --> 00:31:53,840 Speaker 3: You're welcome.