WEBVTT - Girls Talk, 'Boys Talk: Pressure is needed 0:00:02.800 --> 0:00:05.280 The following is a production of Dallas Cowboys dot Com 0:00:05.280 --> 0:00:06.880 and the Dallas Cowboys Football Club. 0:00:09.200 --> 0:00:10.239 Cowboys. 0:00:11.560 --> 0:00:16.480 This is Girls Talk Boys Talk presented by Jigsaw Dating, 0:00:16.760 --> 0:00:21.520 preferred dating partner of the Dallas Cowboys and broadcasting live 0:00:21.840 --> 0:00:24.880 from Dallas Cowboys World Headquarters. 0:00:24.280 --> 0:00:24.840 At the Star. 0:00:25.680 --> 0:00:28.320 Now your host, Nicole Hutchison. 0:00:31.240 --> 0:00:31.720 Hey, what's up? 0:00:31.760 --> 0:00:33.639 Cowboys Nation? Happy Tuesday. 0:00:33.680 --> 0:00:36.480 Welcome in to Girls Talkboys Talk, presented by Jig South, 0:00:36.479 --> 0:00:38.960 the third dating partner of the Dallas Cowboys. In the 0:00:39.000 --> 0:00:43.400 SWBC studio, we got Aisham Morrison in the studio, Bonnie 0:00:43.479 --> 0:00:47.080 Jill Laughlin in the studio. It's Thirsty Scales in the studio. 0:00:48.600 --> 0:00:51.480 So how y'all doing today? 0:00:51.760 --> 0:00:53.479 Oh, I'm still getting over that. 0:00:53.720 --> 0:00:54.440 It's Tuesday. 0:00:54.560 --> 0:00:55.760 Yeah, it's Tuesday. 0:00:55.760 --> 0:00:56.200 Tuesday. 0:00:56.360 --> 0:01:01.760 Tuesday's like it's like it's like a Monday three. It's 0:01:01.800 --> 0:01:06.240 like thirty two. Like after you turn thirty, everybody make 0:01:06.280 --> 0:01:09.600 a big deal and then thirty two you they like, 0:01:10.000 --> 0:01:11.040 we'll have a happy birthday. 0:01:11.480 --> 0:01:14.920 She I ain't there yet, so like, thank the Lord 0:01:14.959 --> 0:01:15.080 for that. 0:01:15.200 --> 0:01:17.800 It's very normally it was your birthday this week and too, 0:01:17.800 --> 0:01:18.679 so happy birthday. 0:01:18.800 --> 0:01:19.679 It was your birthday. 0:01:20.240 --> 0:01:22.800 That's what that's why you're alluding to that happy birthday? 0:01:23.080 --> 0:01:26.080 Yes, but I also was it really feels like Tuesday. 0:01:26.200 --> 0:01:32.000 Just feel like fine, it's fine. You know, do you 0:01:32.080 --> 0:01:32.600 feel older? 0:01:32.760 --> 0:01:33.280 Day off? 0:01:33.400 --> 0:01:33.600 Right? 0:01:33.640 --> 0:01:36.680 It's the rest and rejuvenation is It's like it's and 0:01:36.720 --> 0:01:39.120 then tomorrow hit the ground running and get ready. 0:01:39.240 --> 0:01:41.000 So I'm just dreading it because I had to look 0:01:41.000 --> 0:01:48.040 at film today. Yeah, it's hard, but I feel okay, 0:01:48.520 --> 0:01:50.640 I don't feel if she asked me if I feel. 0:01:50.440 --> 0:01:53.680 Older, because me and christ you were talking about when 0:01:53.680 --> 0:01:55.480 you turn forty you lose your eyesight. 0:01:56.520 --> 0:01:58.720 Like the next day, just the up close stuff. Everything 0:01:58.760 --> 0:02:01.640 becomes the same. You're arms become short, like menu you 0:02:01.680 --> 0:02:02.520 can't can't read? 0:02:02.600 --> 0:02:05.120 Yeah, can you read the menus at the restaurants? And 0:02:05.160 --> 0:02:06.720 you're like turning over a flashlight? 0:02:06.800 --> 0:02:08.040 Yeah, who hit the dimmer switch? 0:02:08.400 --> 0:02:12.520 Oh my goodness, prepare I say? Do not want to? 0:02:13.000 --> 0:02:16.720 All right, ladies? Okay, Cowboys forty nine ers. 0:02:16.720 --> 0:02:18.680 We still got to take a look back at that matchup. 0:02:19.200 --> 0:02:21.560 I know they take on the Atlanta Falcons on Sunday, 0:02:21.560 --> 0:02:24.720 but still got to rewind a little bit, just a preview. 0:02:25.800 --> 0:02:27.760 Just look at this defense. We took a look at 0:02:27.800 --> 0:02:31.840 the offense yesterday, what went right? What went wrong? Defensively? 0:02:32.440 --> 0:02:36.360 Let's start with the front seven evaluations. How would you 0:02:36.480 --> 0:02:38.640 assess the way that those guys perform. 0:02:38.720 --> 0:02:41.000 First, I'll start with you Christy Oh, the run defense 0:02:41.120 --> 0:02:45.560 is still you know, not good. And then just the 0:02:45.639 --> 0:02:49.520 lack of pass rush, and I thought it was very telling. 0:02:50.280 --> 0:02:53.760 After we finished the show yesterday, we heard from the 0:02:53.800 --> 0:02:57.200 coordinators and we heard from Mike McCarthy and Mike Zimmer. 0:02:57.480 --> 0:02:59.640 You know, he said as much that the lack of 0:02:59.639 --> 0:03:03.960 pass rush has affected his play calling. And when you 0:03:04.000 --> 0:03:07.480 can't get pressure with just your front four, when you're 0:03:07.480 --> 0:03:11.800 having to send a fifth person on the pass rush's vulnerable. 0:03:11.840 --> 0:03:14.640 It leaves the back end and especially those crossing routes. 0:03:14.800 --> 0:03:17.240 And so that's something that we've talked about that's been 0:03:17.240 --> 0:03:20.320 a point of conversation earlier in the season. It's like, 0:03:20.360 --> 0:03:22.600 what's the deal with letting everybody run free with those 0:03:22.639 --> 0:03:26.359 crossing routes well when it's vacant there, because you're sending 0:03:26.400 --> 0:03:29.160 guys up to try and help with the pass rush. 0:03:29.200 --> 0:03:34.080 So it's a domino effect and it has to improve. Obviously, 0:03:34.160 --> 0:03:35.960 you don't know if Micah is going to be back 0:03:36.080 --> 0:03:41.600 yet this week, but without him the and of course 0:03:41.760 --> 0:03:45.080 d Law still on injured reserve. The lack of pass 0:03:45.160 --> 0:03:47.520 rush is just killing this team. 0:03:47.840 --> 0:03:49.640 Yeah, and the lack of pass work you're seeing all 0:03:49.680 --> 0:03:53.000 these elite pass rushers, We're just having trouble with that 0:03:53.080 --> 0:03:56.160 a lot, you know, talking about the offensive line as well. 0:03:56.160 --> 0:03:59.480 But defensively obviously, if you look at the two hundred 0:03:59.480 --> 0:04:02.040 and forty five two twenty yards on the ground, I 0:04:02.080 --> 0:04:03.600 mean the four to three defense, they got to be 0:04:03.640 --> 0:04:05.640 better up front. I mean, I just but with injuries 0:04:06.160 --> 0:04:09.560 and not having depth, what do we do? That's that's 0:04:09.600 --> 0:04:10.160 the problem I have. 0:04:10.240 --> 0:04:13.680 I mean, I don't just do Yeah, I mean we 0:04:13.720 --> 0:04:17.520 saw Zimmer come out and try to do some things 0:04:17.560 --> 0:04:21.240 to stop the run. Oh oh, it's just tough to 0:04:21.279 --> 0:04:24.520 stop the run. And uh And that was just like 0:04:24.560 --> 0:04:29.320 those six man fronts. I feel like it was efficient 0:04:29.440 --> 0:04:31.840 to start the game, like it was helpful. I don't 0:04:31.839 --> 0:04:34.280 think they it was unexpected to san Fran as well, 0:04:34.360 --> 0:04:36.919 because they hadn't seen the Cowboys do that to that point. 0:04:37.839 --> 0:04:41.040 Found some success there, but once they figured out, like, oh, 0:04:41.080 --> 0:04:44.080 we're just gonna play action behind you, it got rough, 0:04:44.279 --> 0:04:47.800 you know for the Cowboys, And I empathized for Mike 0:04:47.880 --> 0:04:50.520 Zimmer in a sense of kind of what is happening. 0:04:50.680 --> 0:04:54.839 You can't bank on losing four edge rushers, your starters. 0:04:55.320 --> 0:04:56.720 That's why you can't put it all on Zen. 0:04:56.800 --> 0:04:58.839 Yeah, you can't. You can't bank on that. Like you, 0:04:58.920 --> 0:05:02.279 there's no way to plan that. And to Christy's point, 0:05:02.800 --> 0:05:05.240 you're missing the pass rush, but you also you are 0:05:05.360 --> 0:05:08.920 missing the run defense as well. I mean DeMarcus Lawrence 0:05:09.120 --> 0:05:11.320 one of the best edge defenders against the run in 0:05:11.320 --> 0:05:14.480 the NFL, and also to Micah Parsons to that, despite 0:05:14.480 --> 0:05:16.239 the fact the rest of the team has been struggling 0:05:16.279 --> 0:05:18.360 with the run, he had been better in the run 0:05:18.440 --> 0:05:21.359 this year to start. So it's just a it's a 0:05:21.400 --> 0:05:22.080 tough spot. 0:05:21.839 --> 0:05:22.080 To be in. 0:05:22.080 --> 0:05:24.640 We didn't even talk about the linebackers. I think that 0:05:25.560 --> 0:05:31.320 now the Marion over shown is really starting to get 0:05:31.320 --> 0:05:33.640 a feel for the position and he's kind of learning 0:05:34.320 --> 0:05:36.440 more as things go on. I think there is a 0:05:36.440 --> 0:05:38.640 difference also too that Eric Kendricks was on the field 0:05:38.640 --> 0:05:40.120 and you see him just being a little bit more 0:05:40.160 --> 0:05:43.320 sure and things like that. Thought he made some really 0:05:43.360 --> 0:05:47.000 good plays. But the linebacker corps in general, with what's 0:05:47.000 --> 0:05:50.400 happening with the defensive tackles. I mean, there were a 0:05:50.440 --> 0:05:53.640 couple of plays where the defensive tackles started on one 0:05:53.680 --> 0:05:56.400 side of the formation and we're on the whole other 0:05:56.480 --> 0:05:59.719 side of the formation. It was insane to see in 0:05:59.760 --> 0:06:02.800 real time again, So it's just only so much they 0:06:02.800 --> 0:06:04.799 can do. I thought they played well as they could, 0:06:04.880 --> 0:06:07.000 but it's just ugly. 0:06:06.920 --> 0:06:08.960 And we know in the defensive line is struggling. Sorry, 0:06:09.040 --> 0:06:10.360 just to add to what you're saying, then you put 0:06:10.360 --> 0:06:12.200 so much pressure on the secondary and they're struggling. 0:06:12.200 --> 0:06:13.760 So it just it's like you said, it's a domino. 0:06:14.480 --> 0:06:19.560 Chauncey Golston though I was gonna get there, Chauncey ahead, 0:06:19.560 --> 0:06:24.359 talk about Chauncey Golston actually did. But first before I 0:06:24.440 --> 0:06:27.240 want to go back to the pass rush with with 0:06:27.279 --> 0:06:30.640 what Christy had said, because you look at Purdy's numbers, 0:06:30.680 --> 0:06:33.880 rock Perty's numbers. He was blitzed on thirteen of his 0:06:33.960 --> 0:06:37.800 thirty four dropbacks thirty eight point two percent, and completed 0:06:37.880 --> 0:06:40.119 eight of twelve passes for one hundred and ten yards, 0:06:40.120 --> 0:06:42.520 finished with one hundred and twenty three zero point six 0:06:42.600 --> 0:06:45.960 passer rating when being blitzed. The thing is is that 0:06:46.080 --> 0:06:50.120 teams are having success even when they are bringing that 0:06:50.200 --> 0:06:54.080 extra person, and so it's it also makes you wonder, 0:06:54.520 --> 0:06:57.039 I mean, how do you get pressure because you're not 0:06:57.040 --> 0:06:58.000 getting pressure with four. 0:06:58.040 --> 0:06:59.200 You can't get pressure at five. 0:06:59.360 --> 0:07:02.680 Risk with a blitz. Blitz just means you're sending a 0:07:02.720 --> 0:07:07.320 fifth person for sixth whatever. But if you're sending an 0:07:07.320 --> 0:07:10.360 extra person, you're creating a vacancy in the back, you know. 0:07:10.640 --> 0:07:15.840 And so yeah, risk reward, and that's that's the problem. 0:07:16.080 --> 0:07:18.800 But it ain't getting there with four. And the other 0:07:18.880 --> 0:07:21.800 thing perty the great numbers that he had, but he 0:07:21.920 --> 0:07:25.160 also really killed the cowboys with his legs when he 0:07:25.320 --> 0:07:30.440 was right, and so you know, when you break contain 0:07:30.560 --> 0:07:33.480 and things like that. So it has to do with 0:07:33.560 --> 0:07:37.400 discipline in your pass rush and things like that. So 0:07:38.120 --> 0:07:40.880 there are a lot of issues with the defense now. 0:07:41.000 --> 0:07:45.240 And yeah, Micah will be back soon, hopefully d law 0:07:46.000 --> 0:07:49.000 drawn Bland. We'll see if he's able to practice this week. 0:07:49.360 --> 0:07:52.800 But you know, the trade deadline is a week from today. 0:07:52.880 --> 0:07:58.120 But cavalry, if it's coming, it's limited. And so that's 0:07:58.120 --> 0:08:01.200 what the death is. It's important you have it exactly. 0:08:01.400 --> 0:08:07.800 Yeah, the chnswer your question to call, uh, you can't. 0:08:08.440 --> 0:08:09.120 That's what we're saying. 0:08:09.160 --> 0:08:09.400 Nicole. 0:08:09.760 --> 0:08:10.880 Yeah, I mean, I. 0:08:10.760 --> 0:08:14.240 Mean there's nothing and I think I definitely I feel 0:08:14.280 --> 0:08:15.920 like I said this when the season first started, and 0:08:15.920 --> 0:08:18.680 I can start, we started noticing like the inability to 0:08:18.680 --> 0:08:21.880 get pressure early was like, Hey, I don't want to 0:08:21.880 --> 0:08:23.320 be a team that has the blitz all the time 0:08:23.360 --> 0:08:27.440 because it puts so much pressure on your secondary. Uh 0:08:27.520 --> 0:08:30.560 and this secondary is banged up right now, not necessarily 0:08:30.560 --> 0:08:32.440 banged up. I mean you have Treyvon Diggs coming back 0:08:32.480 --> 0:08:38.160 from the a cl you also have a Moni yes 0:08:38.280 --> 0:08:43.280 on the other side, and with respect, your safeties can't 0:08:43.320 --> 0:08:46.880 cover right now, so you don't have to change. It's 0:08:47.000 --> 0:08:51.040 just it's just it's just it's tough. I don't really 0:08:51.040 --> 0:08:52.960 have a whole bunch of fancy words to say. This 0:08:53.000 --> 0:08:54.920 is a really tough situation to be in because there's 0:08:54.960 --> 0:08:56.959 no quick fix and I don't know if there is 0:08:57.000 --> 0:08:59.920 a fix in general, because you lose something to gain 0:09:00.120 --> 0:09:02.120 something each each thing that you try to do. 0:09:02.720 --> 0:09:05.040 So and especially with Jerry Jones saying he doesn't want 0:09:05.080 --> 0:09:07.080 to do anything before the trade deadline, so there's not 0:09:07.160 --> 0:09:08.880 really this is our team, this is it? 0:09:09.160 --> 0:09:09.679 Yeah. 0:09:09.760 --> 0:09:11.920 Yeah, that's what frustrates you though, because this is a 0:09:11.960 --> 0:09:15.079 team that thrived off getting pressure last year and turnover 0:09:15.280 --> 0:09:19.800 and turnovers, and it's like, how do you have success 0:09:19.840 --> 0:09:22.000 defensively like you just said you can't. 0:09:22.080 --> 0:09:24.560 Yeah, well, because the two things are tied together. And 0:09:24.559 --> 0:09:27.079 I know we're going to talk about takeaways and turnover 0:09:27.160 --> 0:09:29.720 ratio in a little bit, but it's hand in hand. 0:09:30.960 --> 0:09:33.840 What's a cornerback or defensive back's best friend and the 0:09:33.840 --> 0:09:37.080 best way for them to get a takeaway it's when 0:09:37.120 --> 0:09:40.560 the quarterback is under direction and you're getting good pass 0:09:40.600 --> 0:09:43.080 pressure on him. And so it's not a surprise that 0:09:43.120 --> 0:09:45.800 the takeaways are down because there's a lack of pressure 0:09:45.840 --> 0:09:47.199 on the There's no. 0:09:47.240 --> 0:09:52.360 Dress, there's absolutely no dress. He's back there chilling as 0:09:52.440 --> 0:09:54.800 a lot of these quarterbacks have. Well, they just have 0:09:54.920 --> 0:09:57.319 so much time. I would argue he had too much time. 0:09:57.200 --> 0:10:00.400 Sometimes, yeah he would. Yeah, he's known for holding the 0:10:00.400 --> 0:10:02.920 ball too long. We know that party. But those aren't 0:10:02.960 --> 0:10:03.400 working out. 0:10:03.520 --> 0:10:05.840 Yeah, when you talk about the turnover ratio, I'll go 0:10:05.880 --> 0:10:09.160 to Christy first with this one. The forty nine ers 0:10:09.160 --> 0:10:11.280 with two takeaways almost four. If you think about it, 0:10:12.480 --> 0:10:17.000 why is this team struggling so much with getting takeaways? 0:10:17.480 --> 0:10:20.200 With the defense getting the takeaways. Yeah, so the lack 0:10:20.240 --> 0:10:24.320 of pass rush, and then there have been a few 0:10:24.360 --> 0:10:26.160 times where the ball's been on the ground and they 0:10:26.280 --> 0:10:29.000 just hadn't gotten it. So I was looking at the 0:10:29.280 --> 0:10:33.839 comparing the numbers to last year through seven games, and 0:10:34.080 --> 0:10:38.520 right now the Cowboys defense entering after seven games has 0:10:38.600 --> 0:10:43.240 only five takeaways. You said, only five takeaways. They had 0:10:43.360 --> 0:10:46.080 five in like two weeks last year. At this time 0:10:46.160 --> 0:10:50.120 last year, the Cowboys had thirteen takeaways, nine of them 0:10:50.200 --> 0:10:55.160 were interceptions, and so right now you have four interceptions 0:10:55.200 --> 0:10:59.000 and just one fumble recovery. So I think that, you know, 0:10:59.040 --> 0:11:02.120 when you get Mica back and d Law eventually, I 0:11:02.200 --> 0:11:06.160 think that should help with the the pass rush and 0:11:06.160 --> 0:11:10.240 putting that quarterback under duress. But until then, man, it's hard. 0:11:11.400 --> 0:11:13.920 Like we were saying, if you blitz, then you're exposing 0:11:14.000 --> 0:11:18.080 that secondary even more so, or you know, linebackers, you know, 0:11:18.160 --> 0:11:21.640 you're opening up holes in the field. And Kirk Cousins 0:11:21.720 --> 0:11:25.719 is an experienced veteran who and as even though it's 0:11:25.720 --> 0:11:29.679 his first year with Atlanta, a little bit of experience 0:11:29.720 --> 0:11:31.920 with that receiving corps. You know, they should be able 0:11:31.960 --> 0:11:34.520 to recognize those hot reads. You know, so if you blitz. 0:11:34.559 --> 0:11:37.520 It's a risky thing against a veteran quarterback like Cousins. 0:11:37.640 --> 0:11:38.559 Let me pose this question. 0:11:39.559 --> 0:11:45.720 If this team can't get pressure, if this team can't 0:11:45.720 --> 0:11:49.040 get takeaways, we. 0:11:49.000 --> 0:11:51.720 Don't win ball game. That's what you're saying. 0:11:52.640 --> 0:11:55.120 What are they gonna do? Bonnid? You all gonna start 0:11:55.160 --> 0:11:55.439 with you? 0:11:55.880 --> 0:11:56.880 Yeah, I mean that's the thing. 0:11:56.920 --> 0:11:59.200 It's like we're I feel like I'm chasing my tail. 0:11:59.240 --> 0:12:01.400 There's not a solution at this point, you know, And 0:12:01.440 --> 0:12:03.120 you can't blame it all on Zim because you've got 0:12:03.120 --> 0:12:04.680 all these injuries and we have no depth. I man, 0:12:04.679 --> 0:12:07.160 I'm like reiterating myself, but it's the same thing over again. 0:12:07.200 --> 0:12:08.880 Then you've got some guys that it's used and they're 0:12:08.920 --> 0:12:11.480 growing pains, so you can't rush them. So it just 0:12:11.640 --> 0:12:12.880 ends up being I think I do think of the 0:12:12.920 --> 0:12:15.280 safety position that we do need to make with Wilson, 0:12:15.360 --> 0:12:19.120 have to make a change. Malik. I think he's doing 0:12:19.120 --> 0:12:20.840 the best. I feel like they're both doing the best 0:12:20.880 --> 0:12:21.760 at their potential. 0:12:21.840 --> 0:12:22.439 But that's it. 0:12:22.679 --> 0:12:24.600 So maybe try to these younger guys with bell and 0:12:24.600 --> 0:12:25.880 stuff and see if that works. 0:12:26.080 --> 0:12:27.480 They can't do any worse. 0:12:28.360 --> 0:12:31.040 Yeah, you know what I mean. I mean I'm gonna 0:12:31.040 --> 0:12:35.080 be I. I don't know who's going to defend Kyle 0:12:35.120 --> 0:12:37.959 Pits because you used to be able to put a 0:12:38.000 --> 0:12:41.880 safety on them. You can't know. I don't, I don't. 0:12:42.000 --> 0:12:47.320 I don't see that being there. So don't stress me out. 0:12:47.960 --> 0:12:49.240 Don't stress me out, Bunny. 0:12:50.000 --> 0:12:53.520 I just wonder you know Mukualmu played more last week, 0:12:53.600 --> 0:12:56.200 and not just when he came in uh in the 0:12:56.240 --> 0:13:00.600 second half after a warrior hurt his back, but they 0:13:00.600 --> 0:13:04.280 were doing some packages where they had mccuamu and then 0:13:04.400 --> 0:13:07.720 even Bell got some time as well. So what do 0:13:07.760 --> 0:13:12.280 you think about that. I noticed that in particular with 0:13:12.400 --> 0:13:15.880 Pitts because he I'm not saying that Kyle Pitts is 0:13:15.880 --> 0:13:18.480 George Kittle, because no one is George Kittle but Kittle, 0:13:19.640 --> 0:13:23.480 but they're still you know, he has the potential to 0:13:23.520 --> 0:13:27.360 be the real playmaker in this game on Sunday, and 0:13:27.720 --> 0:13:30.360 with that big body six foot six, looks like an 0:13:30.360 --> 0:13:33.040 Adonnas out there, you know, the perfect prototype for a 0:13:33.080 --> 0:13:36.000 tight end and you know with some yards after catch, 0:13:36.040 --> 0:13:39.240 and you know, if he gets the yards after catch 0:13:39.320 --> 0:13:41.440 like Kittle did, that's that's really going to be tough. 0:13:41.679 --> 0:13:44.200 I think you need a guy who's a short tackler. 0:13:44.400 --> 0:13:46.840 And that's something that we saw out of Israel mcwalmou 0:13:46.880 --> 0:13:49.760 this summer in training camp, and right now, I haven't 0:13:49.800 --> 0:13:51.760 seen that out of Malik Hooker. 0:13:51.800 --> 0:13:52.920 I haven't seen that out of Donno. 0:13:53.320 --> 0:13:55.600 We kind of talked about the safety position last week, 0:13:55.640 --> 0:13:58.800 where I usually had mentioned that in this system you've 0:13:58.800 --> 0:14:01.560 got to be able to cover and you also have 0:14:01.679 --> 0:14:03.640 to be able to come down and tackle. 0:14:05.160 --> 0:14:07.720 But I think that maybe they're asked. 0:14:07.600 --> 0:14:09.920 Too much in this system or asked of too much. 0:14:10.160 --> 0:14:17.120 All I believe that, and this I mean again, I 0:14:17.160 --> 0:14:19.680 think that we might have gotten things a little misconstrued 0:14:19.720 --> 0:14:23.960 with how excited the players seemed after training camp and 0:14:24.000 --> 0:14:32.080 stuff about the Zimbra system. Because it is specifically for 0:14:32.080 --> 0:14:34.040 the safety position, it is a little bit more complex 0:14:34.160 --> 0:14:37.120 than what, uh than what dan Quinns system called for 0:14:37.280 --> 0:14:40.080 safety to do. I thought that they did think they 0:14:40.080 --> 0:14:41.840 did things in a nickel. But as far as like 0:14:42.360 --> 0:14:44.280 the scheme, like the Cowboys did not play a lot 0:14:44.280 --> 0:14:47.120 of too high last year with in dan Quinn's system, 0:14:47.280 --> 0:14:48.720 that's a new field, that's a new thing. 0:14:48.840 --> 0:14:50.960 Is that what Will said is that why Wilson struggles 0:14:50.960 --> 0:14:52.680 is because that's that's a. 0:14:52.640 --> 0:14:55.920 Big difference in the scheme thing. But I will say 0:14:56.160 --> 0:14:59.200 that I just I think that they are out. Like 0:14:59.240 --> 0:15:00.840 I said, I think that we can on a misconstrued 0:15:00.960 --> 0:15:04.720 how this change would be for these players and what 0:15:04.760 --> 0:15:07.200 it's the difference in the coaching staff is and how 0:15:07.200 --> 0:15:10.000 they approach things and stuff like that. It's very normal 0:15:10.040 --> 0:15:13.200 to have acclamation periods. It's very normal to have time 0:15:13.240 --> 0:15:15.520 to where you need to adjust to what you're being 0:15:15.560 --> 0:15:18.200 the new things you're being coached. We see a lot 0:15:18.240 --> 0:15:20.920 of guys like I am not. I don't believe that 0:15:20.960 --> 0:15:25.080 people just forget how to tackle. The Cowboys under Dan 0:15:25.160 --> 0:15:27.800 Quinn will be of the best tackling teams in the NFL. 0:15:28.240 --> 0:15:30.000 You still have so many of those guys still on 0:15:30.040 --> 0:15:32.680 this team. I don't know how that happens. So I 0:15:32.720 --> 0:15:35.720 think that maybe guys are second guessing themselves. Maybe guys 0:15:35.760 --> 0:15:36.520 are confused. 0:15:36.560 --> 0:15:39.760 It's because ever Jazzi mentioned that she thought maybe because 0:15:39.800 --> 0:15:42.080 the rules are constantly changing, that the guy's not sure 0:15:42.120 --> 0:15:45.440 about tackling or what. Remember she mentioned that, I remember 0:15:45.640 --> 0:15:48.240 mentioned the wrap around tackling and maybe they can't do that, and. 0:15:48.360 --> 0:15:52.840 I think changes figured out. 0:15:52.920 --> 0:15:55.280 So it's kind of like, no I just think to 0:15:55.320 --> 0:15:58.120 answer your question, I do think that's the philosophy changes, 0:15:58.160 --> 0:16:01.440 and some of the things that changes are taking some 0:16:01.560 --> 0:16:04.160 time for the guys to grasp and there are new responsibilities. 0:16:04.200 --> 0:16:09.520 There's new responsibilities in general. So sure. But to answer 0:16:09.560 --> 0:16:16.200 the original question, as far as the turnovers, now y'all should. 0:16:19.760 --> 0:16:19.960 It was? 0:16:20.080 --> 0:16:22.520 It was in regard to the how do they get 0:16:23.040 --> 0:16:24.240 how do they get turnovers? 0:16:24.440 --> 0:16:27.320 Is that what you say, get to take? 0:16:29.040 --> 0:16:29.960 Where do they getting. 0:16:32.560 --> 0:16:33.120 Much of them? 0:16:33.320 --> 0:16:35.960 Boom a lot. 0:16:36.040 --> 0:16:38.960 They're also not getting turnovers because they ain't got. 0:16:38.720 --> 0:16:42.600 A chance to, like and had a chance that could 0:16:42.600 --> 0:16:43.280 have been a pick six. 0:16:43.440 --> 0:16:46.040 Yeah, yeah, they got to catch them when they see 0:16:46.080 --> 0:16:48.560 it because they keep doing that. But I do think 0:16:49.120 --> 0:16:50.680 they haven't got a chance to because I have people 0:16:50.680 --> 0:16:54.080 who run the ball on you. Yeah, like that's that's 0:16:54.440 --> 0:16:57.000 they're not getting the opportunity to rush the passer like that. 0:16:57.880 --> 0:17:02.360 So it's just a recipe for disaster until they figure 0:17:02.440 --> 0:17:06.520 something out. I'm seriously I wanted to see if Zimmer 0:17:06.640 --> 0:17:08.200 was going to be able to find ways to manufact 0:17:08.200 --> 0:17:10.640 your pressure. We saw him bring to Marian overshown off 0:17:10.680 --> 0:17:13.639 the edge. He didn't really do a whole bunch with 0:17:13.680 --> 0:17:17.720 the interior this game, but like his hands are tied, 0:17:18.200 --> 0:17:20.439 just like, just like Mike McCarthy's hands are tied in 0:17:20.440 --> 0:17:22.720 a sense with what's going on with his offensive line 0:17:23.000 --> 0:17:25.439 and what and the guys that he don't have on 0:17:25.480 --> 0:17:27.800 the receiving end. And also to Jake Ferguson, it's not 0:17:27.880 --> 0:17:31.280 undre percent like this is. It's a lot of things 0:17:31.320 --> 0:17:33.960 going on within this team that are not like controllable. 0:17:34.040 --> 0:17:35.400 Yes, exactly. There's not a solution. 0:17:36.119 --> 0:17:38.240 There's not I don't have one. I normally can deep 0:17:38.280 --> 0:17:40.080 in the wall, dig deep in the wall and be like. 0:17:40.000 --> 0:17:40.840 Well you maybe can do that. 0:17:41.600 --> 0:17:43.840 I ain't got no carrying twos or nothing for you. 0:17:43.920 --> 0:17:48.040 Who do you feel would be best? 0:17:48.280 --> 0:17:50.760 I feel like because my first question was are they 0:17:50.760 --> 0:17:54.560 being asked too much? As far as the safeties, who 0:17:54.640 --> 0:17:56.879 do you feel could possibly. 0:17:56.440 --> 0:17:59.080 Come in and make an impact? 0:17:59.119 --> 0:18:01.239 What changes do you feel like could be made at 0:18:01.240 --> 0:18:02.280 the safety position? 0:18:03.040 --> 0:18:06.120 I think Marquis Bell is fit. I think Marqu's Bell's fit. 0:18:06.359 --> 0:18:07.800 Yeah, that's what I think. 0:18:08.080 --> 0:18:11.760 The time that he spent at linebacker invaluable, Like it 0:18:11.840 --> 0:18:13.960 might have sucked for him in certain instances, but for 0:18:14.040 --> 0:18:16.199 him to learn the line of scrimmags, the way that 0:18:16.240 --> 0:18:19.240 he did. And granted, like we did see his size 0:18:19.240 --> 0:18:20.920 be a factor and things like that, but one thing 0:18:20.960 --> 0:18:23.159 he did show us is that he could tackle and 0:18:23.200 --> 0:18:25.360 he would be sound in his gap integrity. He might 0:18:25.359 --> 0:18:27.320 have got moved out of the gap, but I'm telling 0:18:27.359 --> 0:18:31.000 you he knew his he knew his reads. On the 0:18:31.240 --> 0:18:33.760 other side of things, he is a safety and he 0:18:33.960 --> 0:18:36.400 was one of the best safeties covering tight ends last year. 0:18:36.800 --> 0:18:39.720 So I want to see I would like to see 0:18:39.760 --> 0:18:40.680 him get a shot. 0:18:41.680 --> 0:18:44.360 Yeah, Bell put Bell against Kyle Pitt's. 0:18:44.440 --> 0:18:45.919 I would like to see him getting. 0:18:45.640 --> 0:18:47.560 That's the thing you know last year, and it was 0:18:48.240 --> 0:18:53.080 dan Quinn partly because of circumstances. Remember the injury to 0:18:53.160 --> 0:18:55.960 Layton vander esh and they didn't have enough healthy linebackers 0:18:56.000 --> 0:18:57.640 to get through a game, and we saw a lot 0:18:57.680 --> 0:19:01.159 of dying last year. Extra defensive backs six defensive backs 0:19:01.600 --> 0:19:05.040 nickel means five defensive backs, dime means six because you 0:19:05.040 --> 0:19:08.600 have two Nichols makes a dime. But that was by 0:19:08.680 --> 0:19:13.080 necessity because of injury situations at linebacker, and that's why 0:19:13.359 --> 0:19:16.879 Marquise Bell was out there. He was actually playing linebacker, 0:19:16.960 --> 0:19:20.480 but it was they were doing things differently last year. 0:19:20.560 --> 0:19:24.640 Compared to Zimmer and what they're doing this year. Uh, 0:19:24.640 --> 0:19:29.320 but again it's all by out of necessity. Necessity is 0:19:29.359 --> 0:19:31.480 the mother of invention, and that's why you had Bell 0:19:31.600 --> 0:19:34.360 playing linebacker. Well, he got like a hybrid impact. 0:19:34.480 --> 0:19:36.200 Yeah, you know, if you can play a little at both, 0:19:36.240 --> 0:19:37.440 So I think that could help. 0:19:38.880 --> 0:19:39.719 Is not sold on them. 0:19:41.400 --> 0:19:44.240 I don't know. I don't know. Was kJ Henry at there? 0:19:44.440 --> 0:19:46.960 kJ Henry did play a little bit, Ben, Yeah, there 0:19:47.000 --> 0:19:49.639 was a time. So one of the rotations we basically 0:19:49.680 --> 0:19:52.640