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Speaker 4: Hey, what's up?
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Speaker 4: So how y'all doing today?
Speaker 5: Oh, I'm still getting over that.
Speaker 7: It's Tuesday.
Speaker 5: Yeah, it's Tuesday.
Speaker 4: Tuesday.
Speaker 7: Tuesday's like it's like it's like a Monday three. It's
Speaker 7: like thirty two. Like after you turn thirty, everybody make
Speaker 7: a big deal and then thirty two you they like,
Speaker 7: we'll have a happy birthday.
Speaker 4: She I ain't there yet, so like, thank the Lord
Speaker 4: for that.
Speaker 6: It's very normally it was your birthday this week and too,
Speaker 6: so happy birthday.
Speaker 5: It was your birthday.
Speaker 8: That's what that's why you're alluding to that happy birthday?
Speaker 7: Yes, but I also was it really feels like Tuesday.
Speaker 7: Just feel like fine, it's fine. You know, do you
Speaker 7: feel older?
Speaker 5: Day off?
Speaker 8: Right?
Speaker 5: It's the rest and rejuvenation is It's like it's and
Speaker 5: then tomorrow hit the ground running and get ready.
Speaker 7: So I'm just dreading it because I had to look
Speaker 7: at film today. Yeah, it's hard, but I feel okay,
Speaker 7: I don't feel if she asked me if I feel.
Speaker 8: Older, because me and christ you were talking about when
Speaker 8: you turn forty you lose your eyesight.
Speaker 5: Like the next day, just the up close stuff. Everything
Speaker 5: becomes the same. You're arms become short, like menu you
Speaker 5: can't can't read?
Speaker 8: Yeah, can you read the menus at the restaurants? And
Speaker 8: you're like turning over a flashlight?
Speaker 5: Yeah, who hit the dimmer switch?
Speaker 4: Oh my goodness, prepare I say? Do not want to?
Speaker 4: All right, ladies? Okay, Cowboys forty nine ers.
Speaker 6: We still got to take a look back at that matchup.
Speaker 6: I know they take on the Atlanta Falcons on Sunday,
Speaker 6: but still got to rewind a little bit, just a preview.
Speaker 6: Just look at this defense. We took a look at
Speaker 6: the offense yesterday, what went right? What went wrong? Defensively?
Speaker 6: Let's start with the front seven evaluations. How would you
Speaker 6: assess the way that those guys perform.
Speaker 5: First, I'll start with you Christy Oh, the run defense
Speaker 5: is still you know, not good. And then just the
Speaker 5: lack of pass rush, and I thought it was very telling.
Speaker 5: After we finished the show yesterday, we heard from the
Speaker 5: coordinators and we heard from Mike McCarthy and Mike Zimmer.
Speaker 5: You know, he said as much that the lack of
Speaker 5: pass rush has affected his play calling. And when you
Speaker 5: can't get pressure with just your front four, when you're
Speaker 5: having to send a fifth person on the pass rush's vulnerable.
Speaker 5: It leaves the back end and especially those crossing routes.
Speaker 5: And so that's something that we've talked about that's been
Speaker 5: a point of conversation earlier in the season. It's like,
Speaker 5: what's the deal with letting everybody run free with those
Speaker 5: crossing routes well when it's vacant there, because you're sending
Speaker 5: guys up to try and help with the pass rush.
Speaker 5: So it's a domino effect and it has to improve. Obviously,
Speaker 5: you don't know if Micah is going to be back
Speaker 5: yet this week, but without him the and of course
Speaker 5: d Law still on injured reserve. The lack of pass
Speaker 5: rush is just killing this team.
Speaker 8: Yeah, and the lack of pass work you're seeing all
Speaker 8: these elite pass rushers, We're just having trouble with that
Speaker 8: a lot, you know, talking about the offensive line as well.
Speaker 8: But defensively obviously, if you look at the two hundred
Speaker 8: and forty five two twenty yards on the ground, I
Speaker 8: mean the four to three defense, they got to be
Speaker 8: better up front. I mean, I just but with injuries
Speaker 8: and not having depth, what do we do? That's that's
Speaker 8: the problem I have.
Speaker 7: I mean, I don't just do Yeah, I mean we
Speaker 7: saw Zimmer come out and try to do some things
Speaker 7: to stop the run. Oh oh, it's just tough to
Speaker 7: stop the run. And uh And that was just like
Speaker 7: those six man fronts. I feel like it was efficient
Speaker 7: to start the game, like it was helpful. I don't
Speaker 7: think they it was unexpected to san Fran as well,
Speaker 7: because they hadn't seen the Cowboys do that to that point.
Speaker 7: Found some success there, but once they figured out, like, oh,
Speaker 7: we're just gonna play action behind you, it got rough,
Speaker 7: you know for the Cowboys, And I empathized for Mike
Speaker 7: Zimmer in a sense of kind of what is happening.
Speaker 7: You can't bank on losing four edge rushers, your starters.
Speaker 5: That's why you can't put it all on Zen.
Speaker 7: Yeah, you can't. You can't bank on that. Like you,
Speaker 7: there's no way to plan that. And to Christy's point,
Speaker 7: you're missing the pass rush, but you also you are
Speaker 7: missing the run defense as well. I mean DeMarcus Lawrence
Speaker 7: one of the best edge defenders against the run in
Speaker 7: the NFL, and also to Micah Parsons to that, despite
Speaker 7: the fact the rest of the team has been struggling
Speaker 7: with the run, he had been better in the run
Speaker 7: this year to start. So it's just a it's a
Speaker 7: tough spot.
Speaker 4: To be in.
Speaker 7: We didn't even talk about the linebackers. I think that
Speaker 7: now the Marion over shown is really starting to get
Speaker 7: a feel for the position and he's kind of learning
Speaker 7: more as things go on. I think there is a
Speaker 7: difference also too that Eric Kendricks was on the field
Speaker 7: and you see him just being a little bit more
Speaker 7: sure and things like that. Thought he made some really
Speaker 7: good plays. But the linebacker corps in general, with what's
Speaker 7: happening with the defensive tackles. I mean, there were a
Speaker 7: couple of plays where the defensive tackles started on one
Speaker 7: side of the formation and we're on the whole other
Speaker 7: side of the formation. It was insane to see in
Speaker 7: real time again, So it's just only so much they
Speaker 7: can do. I thought they played well as they could,
Speaker 7: but it's just ugly.
Speaker 8: And we know in the defensive line is struggling. Sorry,
Speaker 8: just to add to what you're saying, then you put
Speaker 8: so much pressure on the secondary and they're struggling.
Speaker 5: So it just it's like you said, it's a domino.
Speaker 7: Chauncey Golston though I was gonna get there, Chauncey ahead,
Speaker 7: talk about Chauncey Golston actually did. But first before I
Speaker 7: want to go back to the pass rush with with
Speaker 7: what Christy had said, because you look at Purdy's numbers,
Speaker 7: rock Perty's numbers. He was blitzed on thirteen of his
Speaker 7: thirty four dropbacks thirty eight point two percent, and completed
Speaker 7: eight of twelve passes for one hundred and ten yards,
Speaker 7: finished with one hundred and twenty three zero point six
Speaker 7: passer rating when being blitzed. The thing is is that
Speaker 7: teams are having success even when they are bringing that
Speaker 7: extra person, and so it's it also makes you wonder,
Speaker 7: I mean, how do you get pressure because you're not
Speaker 7: getting pressure with four.
Speaker 4: You can't get pressure at five.
Speaker 5: Risk with a blitz. Blitz just means you're sending a
Speaker 5: fifth person for sixth whatever. But if you're sending an
Speaker 5: extra person, you're creating a vacancy in the back, you know.
Speaker 5: And so yeah, risk reward, and that's that's the problem.
Speaker 5: But it ain't getting there with four. And the other
Speaker 5: thing perty the great numbers that he had, but he
Speaker 5: also really killed the cowboys with his legs when he
Speaker 5: was right, and so you know, when you break contain
Speaker 5: and things like that. So it has to do with
Speaker 5: discipline in your pass rush and things like that. So
Speaker 5: there are a lot of issues with the defense now.
Speaker 5: And yeah, Micah will be back soon, hopefully d law
Speaker 5: drawn Bland. We'll see if he's able to practice this week.
Speaker 5: But you know, the trade deadline is a week from today.
Speaker 5: But cavalry, if it's coming, it's limited. And so that's
Speaker 5: what the death is. It's important you have it exactly.
Speaker 7: Yeah, the chnswer your question to call, uh, you can't.
Speaker 5: That's what we're saying.
Speaker 7: Nicole.
Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean, I.
Speaker 7: Mean there's nothing and I think I definitely I feel
Speaker 7: like I said this when the season first started, and
Speaker 7: I can start, we started noticing like the inability to
Speaker 7: get pressure early was like, Hey, I don't want to
Speaker 7: be a team that has the blitz all the time
Speaker 7: because it puts so much pressure on your secondary. Uh
Speaker 7: and this secondary is banged up right now, not necessarily
Speaker 7: banged up. I mean you have Treyvon Diggs coming back
Speaker 7: from the a cl you also have a Moni yes
Speaker 7: on the other side, and with respect, your safeties can't
Speaker 7: cover right now, so you don't have to change. It's
Speaker 7: just it's just it's just it's tough. I don't really
Speaker 7: have a whole bunch of fancy words to say. This
Speaker 7: is a really tough situation to be in because there's
Speaker 7: no quick fix and I don't know if there is
Speaker 7: a fix in general, because you lose something to gain
Speaker 7: something each each thing that you try to do.
Speaker 8: So and especially with Jerry Jones saying he doesn't want
Speaker 8: to do anything before the trade deadline, so there's not
Speaker 8: really this is our team, this is it?
Speaker 5: Yeah.
Speaker 6: Yeah, that's what frustrates you though, because this is a
Speaker 6: team that thrived off getting pressure last year and turnover
Speaker 6: and turnovers, and it's like, how do you have success
Speaker 6: defensively like you just said you can't.
Speaker 5: Yeah, well, because the two things are tied together. And
Speaker 5: I know we're going to talk about takeaways and turnover
Speaker 5: ratio in a little bit, but it's hand in hand.
Speaker 5: What's a cornerback or defensive back's best friend and the
Speaker 5: best way for them to get a takeaway it's when
Speaker 5: the quarterback is under direction and you're getting good pass
Speaker 5: pressure on him. And so it's not a surprise that
Speaker 5: the takeaways are down because there's a lack of pressure
Speaker 5: on the There's no.
Speaker 7: Dress, there's absolutely no dress. He's back there chilling as
Speaker 7: a lot of these quarterbacks have. Well, they just have
Speaker 7: so much time. I would argue he had too much time.
Speaker 5: Sometimes, yeah he would. Yeah, he's known for holding the
Speaker 5: ball too long. We know that party. But those aren't
Speaker 5: working out.
Speaker 6: Yeah, when you talk about the turnover ratio, I'll go
Speaker 6: to Christy first with this one. The forty nine ers
Speaker 6: with two takeaways almost four. If you think about it,
Speaker 6: why is this team struggling so much with getting takeaways?
Speaker 5: With the defense getting the takeaways. Yeah, so the lack
Speaker 5: of pass rush, and then there have been a few
Speaker 5: times where the ball's been on the ground and they
Speaker 5: just hadn't gotten it. So I was looking at the
Speaker 5: comparing the numbers to last year through seven games, and
Speaker 5: right now the Cowboys defense entering after seven games has
Speaker 5: only five takeaways. You said, only five takeaways. They had
Speaker 5: five in like two weeks last year. At this time
Speaker 5: last year, the Cowboys had thirteen takeaways, nine of them
Speaker 5: were interceptions, and so right now you have four interceptions
Speaker 5: and just one fumble recovery. So I think that, you know,
Speaker 5: when you get Mica back and d Law eventually, I
Speaker 5: think that should help with the the pass rush and
Speaker 5: putting that quarterback under duress. But until then, man, it's hard.
Speaker 5: Like we were saying, if you blitz, then you're exposing
Speaker 5: that secondary even more so, or you know, linebackers, you know,
Speaker 5: you're opening up holes in the field. And Kirk Cousins
Speaker 5: is an experienced veteran who and as even though it's
Speaker 5: his first year with Atlanta, a little bit of experience
Speaker 5: with that receiving corps. You know, they should be able
Speaker 5: to recognize those hot reads. You know, so if you blitz.
Speaker 5: It's a risky thing against a veteran quarterback like Cousins.
Speaker 4: Let me pose this question.
Speaker 6: If this team can't get pressure, if this team can't
Speaker 6: get takeaways, we.
Speaker 5: Don't win ball game. That's what you're saying.
Speaker 4: What are they gonna do? Bonnid? You all gonna start
Speaker 4: with you?
Speaker 8: Yeah, I mean that's the thing.
Speaker 5: It's like we're I feel like I'm chasing my tail.
Speaker 8: There's not a solution at this point, you know, And
Speaker 8: you can't blame it all on Zim because you've got
Speaker 8: all these injuries and we have no depth. I man,
Speaker 8: I'm like reiterating myself, but it's the same thing over again.
Speaker 8: Then you've got some guys that it's used and they're
Speaker 8: growing pains, so you can't rush them. So it just
Speaker 8: ends up being I think I do think of the
Speaker 8: safety position that we do need to make with Wilson,
Speaker 8: have to make a change. Malik. I think he's doing
Speaker 8: the best. I feel like they're both doing the best
Speaker 8: at their potential.
Speaker 5: But that's it.
Speaker 8: So maybe try to these younger guys with bell and
Speaker 8: stuff and see if that works.
Speaker 5: They can't do any worse.
Speaker 7: Yeah, you know what I mean. I mean I'm gonna
Speaker 7: be I. I don't know who's going to defend Kyle
Speaker 7: Pits because you used to be able to put a
Speaker 7: safety on them. You can't know. I don't, I don't.
Speaker 7: I don't see that being there. So don't stress me out.
Speaker 7: Don't stress me out, Bunny.
Speaker 5: I just wonder you know Mukualmu played more last week,
Speaker 5: and not just when he came in uh in the
Speaker 5: second half after a warrior hurt his back, but they
Speaker 5: were doing some packages where they had mccuamu and then
Speaker 5: even Bell got some time as well. So what do
Speaker 5: you think about that. I noticed that in particular with
Speaker 5: Pitts because he I'm not saying that Kyle Pitts is
Speaker 5: George Kittle, because no one is George Kittle but Kittle,
Speaker 5: but they're still you know, he has the potential to
Speaker 5: be the real playmaker in this game on Sunday, and
Speaker 5: with that big body six foot six, looks like an
Speaker 5: Adonnas out there, you know, the perfect prototype for a
Speaker 5: tight end and you know with some yards after catch,
Speaker 5: and you know, if he gets the yards after catch
Speaker 5: like Kittle did, that's that's really going to be tough.
Speaker 6: I think you need a guy who's a short tackler.
Speaker 6: And that's something that we saw out of Israel mcwalmou
Speaker 6: this summer in training camp, and right now, I haven't
Speaker 6: seen that out of Malik Hooker.
Speaker 4: I haven't seen that out of Donno.
Speaker 6: We kind of talked about the safety position last week,
Speaker 6: where I usually had mentioned that in this system you've
Speaker 6: got to be able to cover and you also have
Speaker 6: to be able to come down and tackle.
Speaker 4: But I think that maybe they're asked.
Speaker 6: Too much in this system or asked of too much.
Speaker 7: All I believe that, and this I mean again, I
Speaker 7: think that we might have gotten things a little misconstrued
Speaker 7: with how excited the players seemed after training camp and
Speaker 7: stuff about the Zimbra system. Because it is specifically for
Speaker 7: the safety position, it is a little bit more complex
Speaker 7: than what, uh than what dan Quinns system called for
Speaker 7: safety to do. I thought that they did think they
Speaker 7: did things in a nickel. But as far as like
Speaker 7: the scheme, like the Cowboys did not play a lot
Speaker 7: of too high last year with in dan Quinn's system,
Speaker 7: that's a new field, that's a new thing.
Speaker 8: Is that what Will said is that why Wilson struggles
Speaker 8: is because that's that's a.
Speaker 7: Big difference in the scheme thing. But I will say
Speaker 7: that I just I think that they are out. Like
Speaker 7: I said, I think that we can on a misconstrued
Speaker 7: how this change would be for these players and what
Speaker 7: it's the difference in the coaching staff is and how
Speaker 7: they approach things and stuff like that. It's very normal
Speaker 7: to have acclamation periods. It's very normal to have time
Speaker 7: to where you need to adjust to what you're being
Speaker 7: the new things you're being coached. We see a lot
Speaker 7: of guys like I am not. I don't believe that
Speaker 7: people just forget how to tackle. The Cowboys under Dan
Speaker 7: Quinn will be of the best tackling teams in the NFL.
Speaker 7: You still have so many of those guys still on
Speaker 7: this team. I don't know how that happens. So I
Speaker 7: think that maybe guys are second guessing themselves. Maybe guys
Speaker 7: are confused.
Speaker 8: It's because ever Jazzi mentioned that she thought maybe because
Speaker 8: the rules are constantly changing, that the guy's not sure
Speaker 8: about tackling or what. Remember she mentioned that, I remember
Speaker 8: mentioned the wrap around tackling and maybe they can't do that, and.
Speaker 4: I think changes figured out.
Speaker 7: So it's kind of like, no I just think to
Speaker 7: answer your question, I do think that's the philosophy changes,
Speaker 7: and some of the things that changes are taking some
Speaker 7: time for the guys to grasp and there are new responsibilities.
Speaker 7: There's new responsibilities in general. So sure. But to answer
Speaker 7: the original question, as far as the turnovers, now y'all should.
Speaker 8: It was?
Speaker 7: It was in regard to the how do they get
Speaker 7: how do they get turnovers?
Speaker 5: Is that what you say, get to take?
Speaker 7: Where do they getting.
Speaker 4: Much of them?
Speaker 5: Boom a lot.
Speaker 7: They're also not getting turnovers because they ain't got.
Speaker 5: A chance to, like and had a chance that could
Speaker 5: have been a pick six.
Speaker 7: Yeah, yeah, they got to catch them when they see
Speaker 7: it because they keep doing that. But I do think
Speaker 7: they haven't got a chance to because I have people
Speaker 7: who run the ball on you. Yeah, like that's that's
Speaker 7: they're not getting the opportunity to rush the passer like that.
Speaker 7: So it's just a recipe for disaster until they figure
Speaker 7: something out. I'm seriously I wanted to see if Zimmer
Speaker 7: was going to be able to find ways to manufact
Speaker 7: your pressure. We saw him bring to Marian overshown off
Speaker 7: the edge. He didn't really do a whole bunch with
Speaker 7: the interior this game, but like his hands are tied,
Speaker 7: just like, just like Mike McCarthy's hands are tied in
Speaker 7: a sense with what's going on with his offensive line
Speaker 7: and what and the guys that he don't have on
Speaker 7: the receiving end. And also to Jake Ferguson, it's not
Speaker 7: undre percent like this is. It's a lot of things
Speaker 7: going on within this team that are not like controllable.
Speaker 5: Yes, exactly. There's not a solution.
Speaker 7: There's not I don't have one. I normally can deep
Speaker 7: in the wall, dig deep in the wall and be like.
Speaker 4: Well you maybe can do that.
Speaker 7: I ain't got no carrying twos or nothing for you.
Speaker 4: Who do you feel would be best?
Speaker 6: I feel like because my first question was are they
Speaker 6: being asked too much? As far as the safeties, who
Speaker 6: do you feel could possibly.
Speaker 4: Come in and make an impact?
Speaker 6: What changes do you feel like could be made at
Speaker 6: the safety position?
Speaker 7: I think Marquis Bell is fit. I think Marqu's Bell's fit.
Speaker 4: Yeah, that's what I think.
Speaker 7: The time that he spent at linebacker invaluable, Like it
Speaker 7: might have sucked for him in certain instances, but for
Speaker 7: him to learn the line of scrimmags, the way that
Speaker 7: he did. And granted, like we did see his size
Speaker 7: be a factor and things like that, but one thing
Speaker 7: he did show us is that he could tackle and
Speaker 7: he would be sound in his gap integrity. He might
Speaker 7: have got moved out of the gap, but I'm telling
Speaker 7: you he knew his he knew his reads. On the
Speaker 7: other side of things, he is a safety and he
Speaker 7: was one of the best safeties covering tight ends last year.
Speaker 7: So I want to see I would like to see
Speaker 7: him get a shot.
Speaker 5: Yeah, Bell put Bell against Kyle Pitt's.
Speaker 7: I would like to see him getting.
Speaker 5: That's the thing you know last year, and it was
Speaker 5: dan Quinn partly because of circumstances. Remember the injury to
Speaker 5: Layton vander esh and they didn't have enough healthy linebackers
Speaker 5: to get through a game, and we saw a lot
Speaker 5: of dying last year. Extra defensive backs six defensive backs
Speaker 5: nickel means five defensive backs, dime means six because you
Speaker 5: have two Nichols makes a dime. But that was by
Speaker 5: necessity because of injury situations at linebacker, and that's why
Speaker 5: Marquise Bell was out there. He was actually playing linebacker,
Speaker 5: but it was they were doing things differently last year.
Speaker 5: Compared to Zimmer and what they're doing this year. Uh,
Speaker 5: but again it's all by out of necessity. Necessity is
Speaker 5: the mother of invention, and that's why you had Bell
Speaker 5: playing linebacker. Well, he got like a hybrid impact.
Speaker 8: Yeah, you know, if you can play a little at both,
Speaker 8: So I think that could help.
Speaker 5: Is not sold on them.
Speaker 7: I don't know. I don't know. Was kJ Henry at there?
Speaker 5: kJ Henry did play a little bit, Ben, Yeah, there
Speaker 5: was a time. So one of the rotations we basically
Speaker 5: we basically have two different defensive lines that go out
Speaker 5: there and play, and so one of one of the
Speaker 5: four one of the rotations, the four defensive linemen out
Speaker 5: there were tied Iris Wheet, who's a third string guy,
Speaker 5: and the other guys were not on the team. Midway
Speaker 5: through training camp, it's Lynval, Joseph, Yeah, Carl Lawson and
Speaker 5: kJ Henry Yeah, kJ Henry, And it's like wow, yeah, all.
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Speaker 6: like twenty minutes. I know we're speaking about the defense.
Speaker 6: Do you all believe that this system fits this personnel best?
Speaker 4: Christie? Just throw it up there? Who wants to catch that?
Speaker 5: If you once you get people back healthy?
Speaker 7: So yes, yes, yeah, okay, it's going to be a
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Speaker 5: Should they have gone deeper at defensive tackle? Sight?
Speaker 7: Yes, the whole defenses cont I don't know much. Yeah,
Speaker 7: I don't know how you hire Mike Zimmer. You don't
Speaker 7: give him d it was it was room from start.
Speaker 7: I'm not trying to be mean like, but that's his system.
Speaker 7: So much of it is, so much of it is
Speaker 7: contingent on that solid front solid Yes, so those linebackers
Speaker 7: can fly, and not only can the linebackers fly. He
Speaker 7: normally is so creative with his usage with his linebackers.
Speaker 7: He can't do a lot of that stuff now, so
Speaker 7: uh yeah, it's it's no. Everywhere else would be great,
Speaker 7: especially from the corner position and stuff with the talent
Speaker 7: you have, even though Deron Bland is down and stuff.
Speaker 7: But yeah, and then as far as the safety position,
Speaker 7: we just talked about it. You I, guys in safeties
Speaker 7: in his in his system have to be able to
Speaker 7: cover hash to hash and uh no, okay.
Speaker 5: Yeah, no, yeah, I don't think so.
Speaker 8: It's not matching up with the personnel and Zim. Yeah,
Speaker 8: but that's why I hate to blame it on Zimmer though.
Speaker 6: All Right, something that I did notice, and you mentioned it,
Speaker 6: how he kind of made adjustments in that game, bringing
Speaker 6: six guys to the line of scrimmage at first going back.
Speaker 7: To four to three D and four three base.
Speaker 6: Uh but that was something that he was kind of
Speaker 6: critiqued about throughout the year, just the lack of adjustments
Speaker 6: that mid game, in game adjustments that he was willing
Speaker 6: to do. Would y'all at least consider that a positive
Speaker 6: to take away?
Speaker 4: Why did y'all start with you with that one?
Speaker 5: Sorry one more time.
Speaker 6: Would y'all consider it being a positive that he did
Speaker 6: somewhat make in game adjustments last Sundays the forty.
Speaker 8: Yes, of course, because he hasn't the rest of the games.
Speaker 8: We've noticed that he wasn't adjusting, So I think that
Speaker 8: was good. But it still didn't get us the dub
Speaker 8: so and they were still struggling on all cylinders, so
Speaker 8: it didn't doesn't make that much of a difference. I
Speaker 8: was happy, I mean, still seeing what Perty was doing
Speaker 8: and you know, just kittle debo everyone. I mean, the
Speaker 8: separation receivers are getting. It just goes on and on.
Speaker 7: Yeah, I mean I was happy. I was happy that
Speaker 7: they tried the fourth in the fourth quarter. I think
Speaker 7: I'm about to start a game the first quarter and
Speaker 7: fourth quarter, but because it wasn't. But it also too
Speaker 7: wasn't about And this is how you know that game
Speaker 7: planning matters and your players. To me, and some people
Speaker 7: disagree with it, but I think players look at players
Speaker 7: are smart enough to look at a plan and say, oh,
Speaker 7: I think this is gonna work. When I was in
Speaker 7: the military, we used to go on missions. I look
Speaker 7: at the plan. Sometimes I'd be like, listen, Doug, we're
Speaker 7: gonna end up having this, We're gonna end up having
Speaker 7: to make a detour. Go here, go here, though there
Speaker 7: they ain't gonna work. I felt like the players came
Speaker 7: out defensively with some fire to them, with some certainty
Speaker 7: to them, and there was some rally to the ball
Speaker 7: and stuff that we haven't seen. So I do think
Speaker 7: that they believed in that game plan. Sant Fran had
Speaker 7: a counter to the counter, absolutely, and so that's that's
Speaker 7: the thing. Like I was, I was pleased that they
Speaker 7: did go in the well and try to try to
Speaker 7: do some things. But Mike Zimmer is working within a
Speaker 7: very small frame and so when it was figured out,
Speaker 7: it's like, well, what else is there to throw at
Speaker 7: throw at them? Right now? There was nothing else to throw,
Speaker 7: And I think you hear some of that defeatism and
Speaker 7: some of the players like, well you see it, You
Speaker 7: see it in their body language. Not that they're like sad,
Speaker 7: but like, we know that we don't have the guys
Speaker 7: right now, and you don't want and as an NFL player,
Speaker 7: I know they don't want to Like I'm not gonna
Speaker 7: feel sorry for myself. They're not asking nobody feel sorry
Speaker 7: for them. But I think there is a reality of
Speaker 7: like they know they they know the secondary knows that
Speaker 7: they're not getting pressure, they know they're not taking the
Speaker 7: ball away, they know that they're missing tackles, you know
Speaker 7: what I mean. Times in this game that a safety
Speaker 7: was literally stopping a touchdown. They know what's going on.
Speaker 7: So it's like, I don't get mad. I don't get
Speaker 7: so mad at them when I be seeing them, Like.
Speaker 8: Well, that's why I think you saw Diggs being so
Speaker 8: frustrated after the game.
Speaker 5: There's frustration because of all this. Well, I think the
Speaker 5: thing is the whole team knows it, and the fact
Speaker 5: that the offense wasn't able to help the defense in
Speaker 5: the third quarter, it goes to that complimentary football. No,
Speaker 5: we're getting ready to talk about offense, but that's part
Speaker 5: of the thing. They come out and San Francisco's offense
Speaker 5: is getting better, getting the better of the Cowboys defense
Speaker 5: in the third quarter, and the Cowboys offense wasn't able
Speaker 5: to help the defense. The special teams wasn't helping the defense.
Speaker 5: It was given the forty nine ers good field position,
Speaker 5: kicking the ball out of bounds and putting the ball
Speaker 5: on the forty so there's you know, it all works together.
Speaker 5: And so when that avalanche started in the third quarter,
Speaker 5: none of the three units were able to stand up
Speaker 5: and help the other one.
Speaker 7: Right, the avalanche started in the second quarter, and the
Speaker 7: Cowboys had that opportunity to go up, because that shifts
Speaker 7: the game. Yes, And if you watched brock party play
Speaker 7: playing from behind, its never been his thing like that.
Speaker 7: You talk about how you get turnovers, you put pressure
Speaker 7: on people, and I was looking for the offense it
Speaker 7: felt like earlier in the game, and then obviously at
Speaker 7: the end, I need the offense to take that part
Speaker 7: seriously because to me, it's not like it's just like
Speaker 7: any other like even in a friendship. Sometimes my best
Speaker 7: friend she's tired. When I used to live together these roommates,
Speaker 7: she'd be like, I ain't got a sister. I gotta
Speaker 7: hold it down, Like that's just how things are. And
Speaker 7: so when you talk about a complimentary sport, a team sport,
Speaker 7: So I okay, y'all know good and well that the
Speaker 7: defense is First of all, this is probably the best
Speaker 7: game that they've played in weeks, as far as far
Speaker 7: as I have. And y'all, y'all, y'all have to reward them.
Speaker 7: It's essential to getting to win. But it also too
Speaker 7: builds trust in confidence between each other that when you're
Speaker 7: out there, you're gonna make the play, when you're you're
Speaker 7: gonna look out for me. And I think that's also
Speaker 7: plays into some of these turnovers and some of these decisions.
Speaker 7: It's like, hey man, that defense was on the Cowboys
Speaker 7: defense was on the field almost the whole third quarter.
Speaker 5: Unacceptable, almost twelve minutes, eleven minutes and fifty two seconds.
Speaker 5: You had seven plays by the Cowboys offense. Unacceptable. But
Speaker 5: you know what in the fourth quarter, at the second
Speaker 5: to last defensive series, they got the start, they got
Speaker 5: the punt, and the offense had the ball the twenty
Speaker 5: five yard line with a chance to win the game
Speaker 5: out they did for four down, four and out, not
Speaker 5: even four and out, and didn't gain a yard at all.
Speaker 7: Insane.
Speaker 5: I need to talk about that.
Speaker 7: It's it's frustrating, uh nicole, and you just I know
Speaker 7: we're gonna get to the offense. But it's like the
Speaker 7: offense is the defense or the like in some in
Speaker 7: some way like they they needed defense is offense, yes,
Speaker 7: And and then factor in too, like your specialty and
Speaker 7: help you like that. It just was it was rough.
Speaker 7: So yeah, they need to play better together.
Speaker 4: What changes need to be made offensively?
Speaker 6: When you talk about this offensive line, because you talk
Speaker 6: about things going hand in hand, I mean this offense
Speaker 6: succeeds when this offensive line is able to do their job.
Speaker 5: Oh can I go ahead?
Speaker 12: I know this is.
Speaker 5: Because because this isn't my word, this is Mike McCarthy
Speaker 5: and Ryan Schottenheimer. Yes, Sue, Yeah, they about miscommunication. Now
Speaker 5: you're talking about that. I think I think people need
Speaker 5: to understand something. You go into a game with an
Speaker 5: offensive script fifteen plays. Now, sometimes situations happen and it
Speaker 5: may not be one too thy five, but fifteen plays
Speaker 5: is scripted. And by the way, that game plan is
Speaker 5: finalized Tuesday night, and the team knows it Wednesday, they
Speaker 5: start game plan installation Wednesday morning. Well, here's the thing
Speaker 5: Mike McCarthy said in the press conference today, the glasses
Speaker 5: on come on to you, okay. Mike McCarthy said that
Speaker 5: there were communication errors on place four, five, six, and
Speaker 5: seven in the first drives. Not they have mama upset
Speaker 5: because these because these are controllable things. Yeah, yes, these
Speaker 5: are controllable things. Now, uh, and by the way, the
Speaker 5: communication when among the offensive line, this isn't Yeah, he's
Speaker 5: just giving me the heart y'all know, I was going
Speaker 5: to be a teacher, right, the teacher living living so much.
Speaker 5: But here's the thing. With the offensive line, they're doing
Speaker 5: their own communication. It does it start with the center
Speaker 5: Cooper BB, yes, identifying the mic, all those kinds of things,
Speaker 5: but he's not the only one communicating. And McCarthy pointed
Speaker 5: out that it's not all on the center. The communication
Speaker 5: goes in the out.
Speaker 4: They had the.
Speaker 5: Guards to the tackles, the tackle to the tight ends
Speaker 5: and beyond, because they're all part of the pass protection,
Speaker 5: for example, on a passing play. Same thing with the
Speaker 5: running backs. They're often helping with pass protection as well.
Speaker 5: When you are having communication errors four times in your
Speaker 5: first ten place, which by the way, are scripted, which
Speaker 5: means that you've been practicing them all week, that's a
Speaker 5: serious problem and it's something that Schottenheimer McCarthy say, yes,
Speaker 5: it has to be corrected, well, better be corrected this week.
Speaker 7: That's a focus.
Speaker 5: Then yeah, well, well, you know the other thing is
Speaker 5: sometimes in Cooper b B and Dak Prescott talked about this.
Speaker 5: I've talked with Cooper about it. The thing about having
Speaker 5: a veteran quarterback, that's great for a rookie center because
Speaker 5: Cooper says, if I do make a mistake, Dak can
Speaker 5: correct it. That's one reason why you want to get
Speaker 5: the call in from the coach quickly and get to
Speaker 5: the line of scrimmage quickly so that Dak can look
Speaker 5: at everything, so that everyone has time to communicate. So
Speaker 5: my point is it's on everybody. Don't just say, oh,
Speaker 5: they have two rookies in the line. Everybody is part
Speaker 5: of this.
Speaker 7: And everybody got everybody was struggling at some point time
Speaker 7: in that game. I thought it was Tyler Goyden's best game.
Speaker 5: Is Terrence Steele's was worried about No.
Speaker 7: I mean, and and this is there were several reps
Speaker 7: where they lined up both over and he was able
Speaker 7: to hold his own. Terrence Steele, Yeah, that's he was
Speaker 7: the problem. I mean, Zach Martin got some Tyler Smith
Speaker 7: got something.
Speaker 5: That's everybody.
Speaker 7: And that's what I'm saying, And that's why I'm trying
Speaker 7: to say it in the most respectful way I can.
Speaker 7: Is like there's something else going on, because I mean,
Speaker 7: Tyler Smith is quite literally, like one of the best
Speaker 7: guards in the NFL. I've never seen him have these
Speaker 7: types of struggles, even some of the things he's struggling with.
Speaker 7: And even Zach like, although he's getting older, he's technically sound, yes,
Speaker 7: y what is and the communication he's one of the
Speaker 7: smartest offensive linees you also meet as well. So it's like,
Speaker 7: I don't know what's going on there, but I will
Speaker 7: say like the pressure coming from the right tackle position
Speaker 7: is starting to really where on the quarterback. I'm sick
Speaker 7: of seeing him get lit up. And it wasn't this
Speaker 7: past game, but the game before. You saw he hit
Speaker 7: his head on someone's helmet, his hand on someone's helmet.
Speaker 7: I remember that happening Week one a couple of years
Speaker 7: ago against the Books, and we didn't have him for
Speaker 7: five weeks. And it also too and even when he
Speaker 7: came back, it changed how quickly he was releasing the
Speaker 7: ball to me, it changed how he played through that season.
Speaker 7: I'm like, we do have to figure out this is
Speaker 7: your franchise quarterback. Now you're gonna be here for four years.
Speaker 7: This is scaring me as far as what's happening at
Speaker 7: the tackle position. Even though I felt like Tyler Goitton
Speaker 7: definitely is showing and proved. They did some good things
Speaker 7: in the run game. At the beginning of this game,
Speaker 7: they showed some different things that they want to do,
Speaker 7: but doing some I thought they were doing to all
Speaker 7: what they weren't. But anyway, yeah, they did some different
Speaker 7: things in a run game. But I don't as of
Speaker 7: right now.
Speaker 6: It's just with what you've seen in how it kind
Speaker 6: of reflect in Dak's play just the first eight weeks.
Speaker 6: It has there been a similar season where you see
Speaker 6: I mean you kind of already answered.
Speaker 4: The question, but hasn't been a similar season of.
Speaker 6: You know, just kind of that lacking of confidence in
Speaker 6: his offensive line a little bit.
Speaker 5: It's a recent memory. No, I'm flashing back to twenty
Speaker 5: years ago.
Speaker 7: It hasn't been.
Speaker 5: Yeah, that's what I thought you were saying. Yeah, no, yeah,
Speaker 5: we've seen a lot worse. I think the main thing
Speaker 5: about it is Dak. For example, on the one interception,
Speaker 5: the one to Turpin, the safety came over Turpin. You know,
Speaker 5: the cornerback's covering Turpin. The ball stays up and the
Speaker 5: safety has time to come over and make the interception.
Speaker 5: On the long pass down the left sideline, well, what
Speaker 5: had happened was Dak steps o steps to avoid the
Speaker 5: rush coming from the left side, steps up in the
Speaker 5: pocket and gets hit. In fact, took a rib shot
Speaker 5: as he's delivering the ball. So the ball, the timing
Speaker 5: is already off and he can't get everything into the
Speaker 5: throw because because it becomes one side, he goes up
Speaker 5: here and it's coming this way. So not an excuse
Speaker 5: for I mean, that's what the defense is supposed to do.
Speaker 5: But Mike McCarthy said yesterday that the lack of pass
Speaker 5: protection is affecting his offensive play calling, and he said
Speaker 5: that he that on his play sheet he took too
Speaker 5: many of his play calls home with him, meaning that
Speaker 5: he didn't get to the stuff that he wanted to
Speaker 5: get to because he couldn't because they weren't well. Number one,
Speaker 5: you know, the run game was better, but they still
Speaker 5: only had what was it, twenty six or twenty two
Speaker 5: rushing attempts. It was a low number of rushing attempts.
Speaker 5: But he can't get to the stuff because they can't
Speaker 5: give Dak the time. And the other thing is there
Speaker 5: were a couple of times where let's say, Jalen Brooks, right,
Speaker 5: who's your fourth or fifth receiver in this game, and
Speaker 5: he's lining up on and kind of like where a
Speaker 5: tight end would be, and he's helping get a push
Speaker 5: on a chip. He's helping, he's helping hit Nick Bosa,
Speaker 5: helping Terrence Steel or or over on the other side guy.
Speaker 5: And I think this time it was Terrence Steel given
Speaker 5: a little push before he releases on a route. So
Speaker 5: you can't send everybody out in a route when you're
Speaker 5: having to keep them back for a little short time
Speaker 5: to help with the pass protection.
Speaker 8: Yeah, and if you're noticing, you know, Dak can't even
Speaker 8: step in because the pockets already collapsing.
Speaker 5: And then we see that Dak.
Speaker 8: Is normally more mobile like last season he was. I
Speaker 8: know Jerry said this morning he doesn't want him running,
Speaker 8: but it's like he'll take the sack instead of moving.
Speaker 7: Clearly.
Speaker 5: Yeah, but I'm just saying it's just from last year. No, No,
Speaker 5: it's something I noticed.
Speaker 7: And that's something we talked about. One of Dak's One
Speaker 7: of my favorite things about Dak Prescott throughout his career
Speaker 7: is his mobility. And it's not the mobility, it's not
Speaker 7: the just taking off running. Is what he can do
Speaker 7: on the move rolling in his pocket. He's been one
Speaker 7: of the most lethal. You don't see a lot of
Speaker 7: young quarterbacks be able to roll out to their left
Speaker 7: and throw dives. He was able to do that in
Speaker 7: his rookie year, which was very surprising to me. So
Speaker 7: that and we saw him do some things on the
Speaker 7: move this past game, even this past ye had last year,
Speaker 7: but even this past game he saw him do something.
Speaker 7: It's just a comfort thing for him. I think that's
Speaker 7: something he just does. Well. You to your point, he's
Speaker 7: not doing that as much right now, and so we've
Speaker 7: been kind of speculating, like why isn't he running, especially
Speaker 7: after vocalizing while he's running. I personally think, and this
Speaker 7: is my opinion, that it's just too much to risk
Speaker 7: you don't have I mean, like, holy muffins, you can
Speaker 7: only lose so many humans on this team. However, I
Speaker 7: say to that, well, he getting up in the pocket.
Speaker 5: Yes, he's getting.
Speaker 7: Knocked down in the pocket. He's taking rip shots, he's
Speaker 7: getting hit in the head, he's getting literally like power drove.
Speaker 7: So it's like, is he safer avoiding because he has
Speaker 7: to wear with all the slide He's not. He's intelligent,
Speaker 7: so is he is he safer in the pocket or
Speaker 7: getting outside the pocket at this point, because I don't
Speaker 7: think it's I don't think it's a huge, huge, huge
Speaker 7: different with how it would be different too if people
Speaker 7: wasn't coming off that right side Scott free because they're
Speaker 7: getting free runs to help. What's different than him being
Speaker 7: in an open field? Like you need to be able
Speaker 7: to open up your offense, and this is an element
Speaker 7: of his game. I mean, Lord, have mercy your reds
Speaker 7: one offense. I'm watching him on film read he is
Speaker 7: reading that he should run and he's not running. That's
Speaker 7: not like him. I'm over it.
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Speaker 5: November fifteenth. Friday got to interview both of them when
Speaker 5: they were they were there at the game last month.
Speaker 5: That was awesome.
Speaker 7: Yeah, I was very cool.
Speaker 5: How is Mike? Oh, he actually was. He was good.
Speaker 4: You know.
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Speaker 6: All right, ladies, things up, we've got I'm going to
Speaker 6: ask you guys, how many games We're just going to
Speaker 6: talk five games, the next five games. How many games
Speaker 6: do you see the Cowboys winning.
Speaker 4: All right? They have the Atlanta Falcons up next.
Speaker 5: That's Atlanta Philly home.
Speaker 6: Then they have the Houston Texans here at Washington and
Speaker 6: then New York here.
Speaker 7: Yes, how many?
Speaker 5: What do I think they're going to get her? Where
Speaker 5: do they need? I think you need at least you
Speaker 5: need three just to stay in the race.
Speaker 4: But how many that? How do you see them? How
Speaker 4: many do you see? They're winning?
Speaker 7: They're not better than Washington or Philly. Oh my god,
Speaker 7: I want to throw.
Speaker 5: You know, you get I'm trying to be positive, but hey,
Speaker 5: they had the chance in San Francisco. At least they
Speaker 5: thought hard coming back. I do like to seeing how
Speaker 5: they came back.
Speaker 7: You know, this Atlanta game is huge.
Speaker 8: I really want They're not bad on the road, the Cowboys,
Speaker 8: so they can.
Speaker 7: I really wonder like Atlanta taking a peek. Look see
Speaker 7: you at them? They are so confusingly fun is what
Speaker 7: I tweeted, is like they are just and I just
Speaker 7: I'm telling you. I like to see teams figure it out.
Speaker 7: I like to see teams. It's good for football. They're
Speaker 7: figuring it out. But what we say fail stop against us?
Speaker 7: But I mean the Cowboys rather but I just uh
Speaker 7: this This game this week, to me, is going to
Speaker 7: set the stage for a lot of stuff and they're
Speaker 7: gonna get a lot of looks that they've had trouble
Speaker 7: with with different on different sides. There's some things to
Speaker 7: take from this game, the San fran game. I hate
Speaker 7: to say it, I hate to be that person, but
Speaker 7: there are some things to take from this game that
Speaker 7: you maybe could incorporate. I do think getting Rico daddleback
Speaker 7: is going to be big, and with there being a
Speaker 7: clear emphasis from Mike part Mike McCarthy, they're going to
Speaker 7: try to run him more because I think he can
Speaker 7: do and stop it being the run.
Speaker 5: That's your point. I want to use the run game
Speaker 5: and Atlanta has not been good against the run this year.
Speaker 5: They're out, they're allowing over one hundred and thirty yards
Speaker 5: rushing per game on average. And so if there's an
Speaker 5: opponent where you might be able to get the run
Speaker 5: game going, even though they got Grady Jarrett, you know
Speaker 5: it could be this weekend.
Speaker 7: Yeah, so I say, I say, I'd say if they
Speaker 7: can get that Atlanta game, I think they can win
Speaker 7: three out of those five.
Speaker 4: All right, Well, yeah, I know it's been fun ladies,
Speaker 4: it has it.
Speaker 6: Tomorrow we're gonna be in good spirit again and bring
Speaker 6: some energy spirit and we're talking week nine. All right,
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Speaker 4: I'm Nicole I to say we will see y'll back
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