1 00:00:00,200 --> 00:00:03,440 Speaker 1: Now here's a highlight from Coast to Coast AM on 2 00:00:03,560 --> 00:00:06,760 Speaker 1: iHeart Radio and welcome back to Coast to Coast. George 3 00:00:06,840 --> 00:00:09,240 Speaker 1: Nori with you along with Donna Kaufman. We'll take calls 4 00:00:09,240 --> 00:00:11,719 Speaker 1: with Donna. Next our Donna. Back to a little bit 5 00:00:11,720 --> 00:00:15,280 Speaker 1: about doctor Cyril Wecht. He co wrote a book with 6 00:00:15,600 --> 00:00:19,000 Speaker 1: Charlie Bosworth Junior, my friend from Saint Louis, on the 7 00:00:19,079 --> 00:00:22,919 Speaker 1: John Betty Ramsey case. That was a tragic case. You've 8 00:00:22,920 --> 00:00:28,080 Speaker 1: looked at that one too, yes, doctor Wetton. Mister Bosworth's 9 00:00:28,080 --> 00:00:31,640 Speaker 1: book is called Who Killed John Benny Ramsey? And for 10 00:00:31,800 --> 00:00:35,040 Speaker 1: my money, it is the ultimate book on the case 11 00:00:35,520 --> 00:00:39,120 Speaker 1: because it discusses the medical evidence and if you don't 12 00:00:39,200 --> 00:00:43,800 Speaker 1: understand that, you don't understand the case and why she 13 00:00:43,960 --> 00:00:47,360 Speaker 1: was killed, the whole reason behind why she was killed. 14 00:00:47,720 --> 00:00:51,000 Speaker 1: So please read that. It's it's still in print. And 15 00:00:51,320 --> 00:00:55,320 Speaker 1: I worked on that case from the boy the minute 16 00:00:55,320 --> 00:00:58,640 Speaker 1: I first saw those videos of her dancing in this 17 00:00:58,680 --> 00:01:05,479 Speaker 1: little seemingly adult child who at that point was her 18 00:01:05,520 --> 00:01:09,760 Speaker 1: body had just been discovered in the basement of her parents' house, 19 00:01:10,280 --> 00:01:14,360 Speaker 1: and they had not been they had been questioned, but 20 00:01:14,800 --> 00:01:19,000 Speaker 1: there was a a of a lot of problems with 21 00:01:19,160 --> 00:01:23,640 Speaker 1: the case, and so no arrests were made, And so 22 00:01:23,720 --> 00:01:28,040 Speaker 1: I was assigned with the tabloids to write about this case. 23 00:01:28,080 --> 00:01:32,440 Speaker 1: And I wrote over the next several years. Well, I 24 00:01:32,440 --> 00:01:37,640 Speaker 1: don't know about a thousand cases, hundreds and hundreds of stories, 25 00:01:38,200 --> 00:01:41,800 Speaker 1: and so I know that case really well. And I 26 00:01:41,840 --> 00:01:45,000 Speaker 1: think about her. She was six years old in nineteen 27 00:01:45,120 --> 00:01:48,480 Speaker 1: ninety six at Christmas. She would be twenty nine years 28 00:01:48,480 --> 00:01:52,520 Speaker 1: old now, and I'm haunted by what would have happened 29 00:01:52,760 --> 00:01:55,920 Speaker 1: had she lived. She wanted to be a veterinarian, she 30 00:01:56,080 --> 00:02:00,440 Speaker 1: had goals, she wanted to be a violinist. She was 31 00:02:00,480 --> 00:02:04,040 Speaker 1: a talented person, like her mother. She might have gone 32 00:02:04,080 --> 00:02:08,359 Speaker 1: into a beauty pageants and her mother, Patsy, was a 33 00:02:08,480 --> 00:02:13,360 Speaker 1: runner up for the Miss America pageant out of West Virginia. 34 00:02:13,840 --> 00:02:16,680 Speaker 1: So who knows what would have happened had she not 35 00:02:16,919 --> 00:02:19,760 Speaker 1: been cut down by the evil person who killed her. 36 00:02:20,320 --> 00:02:23,760 Speaker 1: So that case gets to me, and a lot of 37 00:02:23,800 --> 00:02:28,560 Speaker 1: the cases get to me. I'm haunted by birthdays, death days, 38 00:02:29,000 --> 00:02:31,720 Speaker 1: wondering what they'd be like now. Oh today, so and 39 00:02:31,760 --> 00:02:35,080 Speaker 1: so this is the day when the body was found. Oh, 40 00:02:35,360 --> 00:02:39,400 Speaker 1: this is when Lacy Peterson's body washed ashore. And then 41 00:02:39,880 --> 00:02:43,960 Speaker 1: two days later Connor, her unborn baby, who would be 42 00:02:44,160 --> 00:02:48,680 Speaker 1: seventeen years old, now his body washed. So I worked 43 00:02:48,680 --> 00:02:52,400 Speaker 1: on that case too. And Scott Peterson, who killed his 44 00:02:52,440 --> 00:02:55,960 Speaker 1: wife an unborn child, is now in San Quentin on 45 00:02:56,360 --> 00:03:01,800 Speaker 1: death row, although we're not executing people these days in California, California, 46 00:03:01,960 --> 00:03:05,080 Speaker 1: and he there's a window on death row that overlooks 47 00:03:05,120 --> 00:03:09,440 Speaker 1: the San Francisco Bay where he dumped their bodies. So 48 00:03:10,080 --> 00:03:13,200 Speaker 1: you know, enjoy the view. There's Scott. You're never going 49 00:03:13,280 --> 00:03:15,720 Speaker 1: to see anything else. I go to Boulder once a 50 00:03:15,760 --> 00:03:19,440 Speaker 1: month to do some Beyond Belief television shows, Donna, and 51 00:03:19,600 --> 00:03:21,280 Speaker 1: we got to get you up there for one of them. 52 00:03:21,639 --> 00:03:26,600 Speaker 1: But I had the driver one day drive me past 53 00:03:26,680 --> 00:03:29,639 Speaker 1: the house that John Buddy Ramsey was killed in, right, 54 00:03:29,720 --> 00:03:32,560 Speaker 1: and I've got to tell you, it is the creepiest, 55 00:03:32,800 --> 00:03:36,800 Speaker 1: erious feeling. It's I guess it's since been sold a 56 00:03:36,840 --> 00:03:39,920 Speaker 1: few times. Yes, And you know, we were just out there. 57 00:03:39,920 --> 00:03:42,320 Speaker 1: I didn't even want him to stop. I just said, 58 00:03:42,640 --> 00:03:44,960 Speaker 1: I just you know, I'm here. I'm here in Boulder. 59 00:03:45,000 --> 00:03:48,480 Speaker 1: It's a new story that I'm very interested in. Let's 60 00:03:48,560 --> 00:03:51,960 Speaker 1: drive by the house and it was just a very 61 00:03:52,120 --> 00:03:57,040 Speaker 1: sad situation. Just driving by was sad, yes, heartbreaking. And 62 00:03:57,080 --> 00:03:59,120 Speaker 1: then of course all the if you know the case 63 00:03:59,160 --> 00:04:01,920 Speaker 1: at all, the the restaurants where the family ate, and 64 00:04:02,000 --> 00:04:05,400 Speaker 1: where she went to school, and then I did that. 65 00:04:05,560 --> 00:04:12,680 Speaker 1: And also they're originally from a different state, so I 66 00:04:12,720 --> 00:04:16,000 Speaker 1: would go there as well. And she's buried in Georgia, 67 00:04:16,640 --> 00:04:21,039 Speaker 1: so you know, it's there's a lot of memories around 68 00:04:22,160 --> 00:04:25,640 Speaker 1: in my mind about Jean Benet and all the people 69 00:04:25,680 --> 00:04:29,279 Speaker 1: that I write about. Some of them hit me harder 70 00:04:29,320 --> 00:04:32,880 Speaker 1: than others. Your first book was called A Question of Murder, 71 00:04:32,880 --> 00:04:35,560 Speaker 1: and that was about would you say mass murdered during 72 00:04:35,640 --> 00:04:38,440 Speaker 1: Hurricane Katrina. Tell us a little bit about that. Well, 73 00:04:38,600 --> 00:04:42,680 Speaker 1: speaking of bad memories, the Dorian footage makes me think 74 00:04:42,720 --> 00:04:47,719 Speaker 1: of this case exactly. This was two thousand and five August. 75 00:04:48,200 --> 00:04:52,680 Speaker 1: For a week, fifty levies broke in New Orleans one 76 00:04:52,720 --> 00:04:56,200 Speaker 1: hundred and ten degree temperatures. Eighty percent of the city 77 00:04:56,279 --> 00:05:01,320 Speaker 1: was flooded. The sanctuary was considered Memorial Medical Center, which 78 00:05:01,400 --> 00:05:05,880 Speaker 1: was in the Broadmoor area. Outside water was eight feet deep. 79 00:05:06,160 --> 00:05:08,920 Speaker 1: There was a lot of looting, so there were two 80 00:05:08,920 --> 00:05:11,880 Speaker 1: thousand people thinking okay, well we'll just wait out the 81 00:05:11,920 --> 00:05:17,479 Speaker 1: storm inside this brick hospital, eight floors of safety, and 82 00:05:18,040 --> 00:05:23,440 Speaker 1: there were patients, there were medical personnel, friends, pets, freshwater, 83 00:05:24,000 --> 00:05:29,360 Speaker 1: lots of freshwater there in bottles, lots of food. And 84 00:05:29,400 --> 00:05:32,919 Speaker 1: then the power went out and because the generator was 85 00:05:32,960 --> 00:05:36,400 Speaker 1: on the second floor, that went out. So no elevators, 86 00:05:36,800 --> 00:05:41,800 Speaker 1: toilets overflowed, no cell phones, no computers, the metal skeleton 87 00:05:41,920 --> 00:05:46,120 Speaker 1: creaked like it was the titanic. Tenet Healthcare, which owned 88 00:05:46,120 --> 00:05:50,599 Speaker 1: the place, said okay, we're going to rooftop evacuate people. 89 00:05:51,200 --> 00:05:57,400 Speaker 1: But because they were having to navigate these stairs in 90 00:05:57,560 --> 00:06:02,680 Speaker 1: this heat and stepping over dead bodies, they could only 91 00:06:02,680 --> 00:06:07,279 Speaker 1: get twenty five people a day out. And at that 92 00:06:07,400 --> 00:06:10,440 Speaker 1: point there was a doctor who was a cancer doctor 93 00:06:11,000 --> 00:06:15,440 Speaker 1: in the hospital. Her name was Anna Maria Poe. She's 94 00:06:15,480 --> 00:06:19,960 Speaker 1: forty nine years old. She and two nurses were seen 95 00:06:20,400 --> 00:06:23,680 Speaker 1: by another doctor and plenty of other people going from 96 00:06:23,720 --> 00:06:31,320 Speaker 1: bed to bed to bed and told just involuntarily euthanized 97 00:06:31,320 --> 00:06:37,240 Speaker 1: these people, viable patients. And the doctor, one of the doctors, said, 98 00:06:37,279 --> 00:06:39,600 Speaker 1: what are you doing. You can't do He saw syringes 99 00:06:39,640 --> 00:06:44,360 Speaker 1: in her hand. She told him, okay, we're putting morphine, 100 00:06:44,360 --> 00:06:48,159 Speaker 1: and versaid, we're putting these people to sleep, and he said, 101 00:06:48,200 --> 00:06:50,159 Speaker 1: you can't do that, it's murder, and she said, well, 102 00:06:50,200 --> 00:06:53,360 Speaker 1: if you know, I get go leave. So he did, 103 00:06:53,920 --> 00:06:59,440 Speaker 1: but he talked to me and in all, thirty four 104 00:06:59,520 --> 00:07:03,960 Speaker 1: victims were killed. Now, the reason she thought she and 105 00:07:04,040 --> 00:07:06,800 Speaker 1: Tenant Healthcare thought they could get away with it is 106 00:07:06,839 --> 00:07:09,600 Speaker 1: because they thought, no one is going to be able 107 00:07:09,680 --> 00:07:14,400 Speaker 1: to get back into the hospital to find these bodies. 108 00:07:14,400 --> 00:07:18,240 Speaker 1: They'll be skeletonized in a couple of weeks, so there 109 00:07:18,240 --> 00:07:21,240 Speaker 1: will be no trace of the medicine. Well, guess what 110 00:07:21,360 --> 00:07:25,640 Speaker 1: the Attorney general did, get in and his investigators found 111 00:07:26,360 --> 00:07:29,880 Speaker 1: and put together a team of five experts, including doctor 112 00:07:29,960 --> 00:07:36,400 Speaker 1: Cyroact and four other amazing experts, who all did individual 113 00:07:36,560 --> 00:07:41,320 Speaker 1: testing and discovered that the versaid and morphine were not 114 00:07:41,440 --> 00:07:45,600 Speaker 1: part of the protocols of these patients who maybe had cancer, 115 00:07:45,680 --> 00:07:49,120 Speaker 1: maybe had this illness that illness, but they were all viable. 116 00:07:49,560 --> 00:07:53,680 Speaker 1: None of them had those medicines on their list of 117 00:07:53,720 --> 00:07:58,320 Speaker 1: things they should have been taking. So the nurses and 118 00:07:58,640 --> 00:08:03,400 Speaker 1: doctor were arrested. The two nurses said we'll testify against her, 119 00:08:03,920 --> 00:08:07,960 Speaker 1: and then something happened. Two things happened. The doctor put 120 00:08:08,040 --> 00:08:11,640 Speaker 1: together a two million dollar media campaign to say oh 121 00:08:12,160 --> 00:08:14,360 Speaker 1: for me. You know, I was just looking out for 122 00:08:14,400 --> 00:08:17,880 Speaker 1: these patients. This was her money, like her money, No, 123 00:08:18,160 --> 00:08:23,920 Speaker 1: there was healthcare money to help her. And then the 124 00:08:23,920 --> 00:08:26,520 Speaker 1: local DA said, I'm not going to prosecute. Now. You know, 125 00:08:26,720 --> 00:08:31,160 Speaker 1: in any other normal state, you have a DA that 126 00:08:31,200 --> 00:08:34,600 Speaker 1: says I can't prosecute this, you go to the Attorney general. 127 00:08:35,920 --> 00:08:40,600 Speaker 1: Louisiana is upside down because the local DA is the 128 00:08:40,800 --> 00:08:44,680 Speaker 1: final say in a case. And that guy said I'm 129 00:08:44,679 --> 00:08:48,600 Speaker 1: not prosecuting. So she got off scott free. But I 130 00:08:48,760 --> 00:08:52,400 Speaker 1: got to all of the families before they signed NDA's 131 00:08:52,520 --> 00:08:57,800 Speaker 1: nondisclosure agreements and took checks to buy their silence. So 132 00:08:57,840 --> 00:09:00,440 Speaker 1: our book is the only one where you read what 133 00:09:00,600 --> 00:09:04,640 Speaker 1: really happened, and it's so chilling. But there's no statue 134 00:09:04,679 --> 00:09:09,360 Speaker 1: of limitations on murder. If some district attorney in New 135 00:09:09,440 --> 00:09:14,120 Speaker 1: Orleans ever grows a pair and decides to file charges 136 00:09:14,160 --> 00:09:19,600 Speaker 1: against this evil doctor who is still there practicing her trade, 137 00:09:20,240 --> 00:09:24,040 Speaker 1: Cyrowett will testify against her as well the other experts 138 00:09:24,640 --> 00:09:28,080 Speaker 1: about the bizarre case of the little girl Kaylee Anthony, 139 00:09:28,240 --> 00:09:31,480 Speaker 1: who was found dead back in what was it two 140 00:09:31,520 --> 00:09:35,120 Speaker 1: thousand and eight, Yes, that one, and her mother was acquitted. 141 00:09:35,160 --> 00:09:39,520 Speaker 1: Her mother was acquitted. Yeah, you know what. That's our 142 00:09:39,640 --> 00:09:42,920 Speaker 1: from our second book, From Crime Scene to Courtroom. Kaylee 143 00:09:42,960 --> 00:09:45,960 Speaker 1: Anthony was two almost three when she died in two 144 00:09:46,000 --> 00:09:50,640 Speaker 1: thousand and seven. Her mother, Casey, was found negligent and 145 00:09:51,600 --> 00:09:55,360 Speaker 1: found guilty of lyne to authorities. She waited thirty one 146 00:09:55,440 --> 00:09:59,520 Speaker 1: days to say my daughter's been missing. Kayley, who I 147 00:09:59,559 --> 00:10:01,960 Speaker 1: think all the time because I've worked on that case 148 00:10:03,360 --> 00:10:07,640 Speaker 1: around the clock, would be fourteen today. She would probably 149 00:10:07,760 --> 00:10:11,439 Speaker 1: have she had loving grandparents, she had people who cared 150 00:10:11,480 --> 00:10:15,319 Speaker 1: about her. What she had was a very very selfish 151 00:10:15,320 --> 00:10:20,240 Speaker 1: mother and Devil may care kind of. She became the 152 00:10:20,280 --> 00:10:24,400 Speaker 1: world's most hated person. The trial was turbulent, so was 153 00:10:24,440 --> 00:10:29,120 Speaker 1: the outcome. The jury found her not guilty of homicide. 154 00:10:31,040 --> 00:10:34,640 Speaker 1: She blamed everything on her father, which was unfortunate. She's 155 00:10:34,679 --> 00:10:39,240 Speaker 1: still estranged from her family today and as she accused 156 00:10:39,320 --> 00:10:42,160 Speaker 1: him of molesting her and everything else, what is just 157 00:10:42,320 --> 00:10:48,240 Speaker 1: complete lie, complete horrible lie. And I feel for the parents, 158 00:10:48,320 --> 00:10:52,800 Speaker 1: but the mother stood by her. And it's just a 159 00:10:52,960 --> 00:10:57,600 Speaker 1: crazy case from beginning to end. When you realize what 160 00:10:57,679 --> 00:11:00,520 Speaker 1: the evidence shows happened to that child. I held how 161 00:11:00,520 --> 00:11:04,439 Speaker 1: she was put in a trunk, given chloroform to knock 162 00:11:04,440 --> 00:11:08,080 Speaker 1: her out and then driven around until she died and 163 00:11:08,120 --> 00:11:11,200 Speaker 1: then disposed of in a swamp by Didn't the trunk 164 00:11:11,360 --> 00:11:15,640 Speaker 1: of Casey's mother smell like a dead body? Yes? The 165 00:11:15,720 --> 00:11:18,600 Speaker 1: mother said that on her nine one one call to said, 166 00:11:18,800 --> 00:11:22,040 Speaker 1: it smells like a dead body in here, and so 167 00:11:22,520 --> 00:11:26,400 Speaker 1: you know they had her dead rights. They had all 168 00:11:26,440 --> 00:11:30,040 Speaker 1: sorts of internet searches about how do you kill someone 169 00:11:30,080 --> 00:11:35,120 Speaker 1: with chloroform? And the mother, taking one for her daughter, said, 170 00:11:35,160 --> 00:11:38,800 Speaker 1: oh yeah, I did those searches. Well, you know that 171 00:11:38,960 --> 00:11:41,520 Speaker 1: she stood by her daughter. Blood is thicker than water, 172 00:11:41,600 --> 00:11:45,120 Speaker 1: except when it comes to your granddaughter, who should be 173 00:11:45,360 --> 00:11:49,800 Speaker 1: walking around today. She was worth saving your daughter, not 174 00:11:49,880 --> 00:11:53,960 Speaker 1: so much, you know. Back to the Vegas shooter, Stephen Paddock. 175 00:11:54,280 --> 00:11:56,840 Speaker 1: They still never came up with a motive in this case, 176 00:11:56,920 --> 00:12:04,840 Speaker 1: did they? Well, you know not to not to my opinion, 177 00:12:04,960 --> 00:12:08,600 Speaker 1: And I read all of the reports, none of which 178 00:12:08,720 --> 00:12:14,480 Speaker 1: mentioned the Las Vegas, the McLaren airport, and the Janet 179 00:12:14,520 --> 00:12:18,120 Speaker 1: planes that he tried to blow up. Because he was 180 00:12:18,160 --> 00:12:23,080 Speaker 1: shooting at the gigantic gas tanks, like two hundred gallon 181 00:12:23,760 --> 00:12:28,320 Speaker 1: gas tanks right where all those government planes are are. 182 00:12:29,120 --> 00:12:32,840 Speaker 1: That's just completely glossed over so well, when you have 183 00:12:33,040 --> 00:12:36,080 Speaker 1: somebody who wounds or kills up to five hundred people, 184 00:12:36,200 --> 00:12:40,000 Speaker 1: the biggest massacre in uh what was that? No, fifty 185 00:12:40,080 --> 00:12:44,439 Speaker 1: seven dead something like that. Yeah, and he was. He 186 00:12:44,520 --> 00:12:48,480 Speaker 1: was definitely a screwball. And but nobody really saw that, 187 00:12:48,600 --> 00:12:52,080 Speaker 1: did they. I say that again, nobody really saw that 188 00:12:52,160 --> 00:12:55,640 Speaker 1: in him, did they. Well, he was people didn't like him. 189 00:12:55,679 --> 00:12:58,760 Speaker 1: He was a very difficult guy to get along with. 190 00:12:58,880 --> 00:13:02,480 Speaker 1: Even his brother will say that, even his girlfriend will 191 00:13:02,520 --> 00:13:08,760 Speaker 1: say that. But he wasn't like a drooling meanie like 192 00:13:08,960 --> 00:13:11,680 Speaker 1: you see with some of these twenty one year old guys. 193 00:13:11,880 --> 00:13:15,480 Speaker 1: You just you wonder, though, Donna, what's the switch? What's 194 00:13:15,520 --> 00:13:18,480 Speaker 1: the trigger that makes them flip the way they did? 195 00:13:18,679 --> 00:13:21,800 Speaker 1: I mean, because I bet people if people were going 196 00:13:21,880 --> 00:13:25,480 Speaker 1: to bet money in Vegas on Stephen Paddock being a 197 00:13:25,480 --> 00:13:29,200 Speaker 1: mass murderer, they would have lost money on that because 198 00:13:29,240 --> 00:13:31,880 Speaker 1: they would have said, no, he's not going to kill people. Well, 199 00:13:31,880 --> 00:13:35,640 Speaker 1: and speaking of losing money, losing money I think was 200 00:13:35,679 --> 00:13:40,080 Speaker 1: a major problem in his life because he had had 201 00:13:40,480 --> 00:13:44,920 Speaker 1: a successful business and owning apartment buildings with his mother 202 00:13:45,040 --> 00:13:49,920 Speaker 1: and he but he was addicted to video poker. So 203 00:13:50,040 --> 00:13:53,319 Speaker 1: people say, well, he was a professional gambler. No, he wasn't. 204 00:13:53,360 --> 00:13:56,080 Speaker 1: He wasn't someone who would sit in a circle of 205 00:13:56,160 --> 00:13:59,400 Speaker 1: high rollers and play poker. He was somebody who would 206 00:13:59,440 --> 00:14:03,520 Speaker 1: sit in one of a machine alone by himself. Yeah, 207 00:14:03,520 --> 00:14:06,400 Speaker 1: so it's almost a hypnotic kind of thing that he 208 00:14:06,559 --> 00:14:10,079 Speaker 1: was going through. And you know, there are lots of 209 00:14:10,160 --> 00:14:12,840 Speaker 1: questions about somebody who would do that, that kind of 210 00:14:12,880 --> 00:14:17,520 Speaker 1: psyche of almost hypnotizing himself. Oh yeah, but a lot 211 00:14:17,559 --> 00:14:20,000 Speaker 1: of people, Donna will sit at a slot machine. I 212 00:14:20,280 --> 00:14:23,280 Speaker 1: mean I see people like that all the time, you know, 213 00:14:23,400 --> 00:14:26,000 Speaker 1: putting in you know, their coins and things like that, 214 00:14:26,040 --> 00:14:28,840 Speaker 1: and they would never go out and kill fifty seven 215 00:14:28,880 --> 00:14:32,200 Speaker 1: people or one exactly. And when he was out, he 216 00:14:32,280 --> 00:14:37,200 Speaker 1: was out there and shooting ranges with high power weapons. 217 00:14:37,600 --> 00:14:42,120 Speaker 1: So he had that going for him. But you know, too, 218 00:14:42,680 --> 00:14:49,040 Speaker 1: we've never seen the FBI behavioral science reports. They've never 219 00:14:49,440 --> 00:14:52,640 Speaker 1: been made public about what they think about him. That's 220 00:14:52,640 --> 00:14:54,840 Speaker 1: what I want to read about, because I don't care 221 00:14:54,880 --> 00:14:58,120 Speaker 1: what the Vegas cops want to say to cover up 222 00:14:58,160 --> 00:15:01,040 Speaker 1: the case and to make us not look at the 223 00:15:01,160 --> 00:15:05,600 Speaker 1: airport McLaren, look at the concert goers. That's where his 224 00:15:05,680 --> 00:15:09,920 Speaker 1: wrath was. No, his wrath was divided, so who knows 225 00:15:10,040 --> 00:15:13,760 Speaker 1: what set him off there. He did work for Lockheed 226 00:15:13,800 --> 00:15:17,200 Speaker 1: at some point, and you know, maybe there's some link 227 00:15:17,280 --> 00:15:20,520 Speaker 1: there I would love to know. Listen to more Coast 228 00:15:20,560 --> 00:15:24,160 Speaker 1: to Coast AM every weeknight at one am Eastern, and 229 00:15:24,400 --> 00:15:26,800 Speaker 1: go to Coast to Coast am dot com for more