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Speaker 1: Wake that ass up in the morning, the Breakfast Club Morning.

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Speaker 2: Everybody is dej envy ess hilarious, Charlamagne the guy. We

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Speaker 2: are the Breakfast Club. Justice on maternity leave, so Lonlaosa

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Speaker 2: is filling in. And we got some special guests in

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Speaker 2: the building.

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Speaker 3: That's right.

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Speaker 1: We got Matt Bonds and Stephen Jackson. Welcome fellas.

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Speaker 4: How y'all feeling good, good, tired but good.

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Speaker 5: Good, collectively known as All the Smoke podcasts? Right, Their

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Speaker 5: new coffee table book is out right now, All the Smoke.

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Speaker 3: Man.

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Speaker 5: You know, I always say, like, I know that there's

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Speaker 5: a lot of athletes who do podcasts and stuff. Now,

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Speaker 5: I don't know anybody before y'all. I feel like y'all

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Speaker 5: started that whole way. So to see y'all be the

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Speaker 5: first with a coffee table book, man, that makes so

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Speaker 5: much sense to me.

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Speaker 3: Man, it's been a blessed. It's been a journey. I mean,

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Speaker 3: our five year anniversary is tomorrow. Wow.

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Speaker 4: If you would have told me, like five years later

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Speaker 4: we'd have a coffee table book, a whole production company

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Speaker 4: and people working underneath, that's how it would have been, Like,

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Speaker 4: you're full of shit. I didn't even know what the

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Speaker 4: podcast was at the time. So you know, we're blessed

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Speaker 4: to come together and find lightning in a bottle and

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Speaker 4: thankful for the opportunities and obviously being able to partner

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Speaker 4: with you and your your company and be able to

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Speaker 4: get this done was dope.

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Speaker 6: A lot of people don't know that. Bro FA's out

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Speaker 6: to you. A lot of our success, you know, a

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Speaker 6: lot of stuff that we have going on. You brought

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Speaker 6: our way and you thought about us, even with black effects,

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Speaker 6: So we appreciate you. A lot of people don't know that.

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Speaker 6: So we got to get your props to.

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Speaker 5: All of my brothers. How did this come about? Through

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Speaker 5: this just for a podcast? Like I know, y'all was partnered.

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Speaker 4: To go I think I think Jack retired maybe one

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Speaker 4: or two years before me and we both got out

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Speaker 4: and we're doing ESPN and Fox and getting positive feedback

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Speaker 4: and people said we needed to do something together. And

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Speaker 4: we were at my house in the Bay one time

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Speaker 4: smoking and I'm just like, you want to do a podcast?

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Speaker 3: And He's like, sure, what is it?

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Speaker 4: I was like, I don't really know, but I I

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Speaker 4: think we can drink and smoke because we were working

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Speaker 4: ESPN and Fox. You know, you got to kind of

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Speaker 4: walk that line. So it was just a little bit

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Speaker 4: more to our comfort zone. And he said, yeah, So

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Speaker 4: I started doing the homework and we landed here.

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Speaker 3: We landed a showtime, and.

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Speaker 2: You interviewed so many, so many people. Who are some

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Speaker 2: of your favorite people that you guys have interviewed in

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Speaker 2: the past.

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Speaker 6: I mean, I'm a I'm a big hip hop guy

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Speaker 6: and the comedy guys, so the comedians and the rap

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Speaker 6: artists like Lil Wayne. Having Kevin Hard on the show,

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Speaker 6: you know, been able to laugh at them. I think

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Speaker 6: Jamie Foxx, we was home doing COVID that episode, man,

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Speaker 6: I think everybody needed. That was so and we had

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Speaker 6: the comedians and the hip hop artist on. That's always

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Speaker 4: I just think, you know, being like you guys are

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Speaker 4: trusted voice in the space is important. You know, for

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Speaker 4: with Kamala Harris and Kobe's last interview and staff, KD

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Speaker 4: Pink and Smith. I just think being a trusted voice

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Speaker 4: something I prought myself on.

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Speaker 5: I think athletes didn't have a safe space before before y'all,

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Speaker 5: especially in NBA players because we can't speak the language

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Speaker 5: y'all speaking. So it causes them to open up in

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Speaker 3: You know.

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Speaker 6: We were emotions on the sleeve and everything we've been

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Speaker 6: through in life is on the table for everybody to see,

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Speaker 6: and were willing to talk about it. So I think

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Speaker 1: Kamala was your most recent we said, Joe.

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Speaker 4: Kim Noah after her, but yeah, Kamala was, yeah, a

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Speaker 1: And how was that? I know you're a little reluctant

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Speaker 6: Oh no, you know that I called him and talked

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Speaker 1: You don't want to do it at first, nah, because I.

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Speaker 3: Really don't want to get in politics.

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Speaker 6: I don't I don't even want to be involved, and

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Speaker 6: a lot of people that support me don't get involved.

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Speaker 3: You know what I'm saying.

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Speaker 6: I look at it the same way I look at it,

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Speaker 6: but as a friend and as a brother to him,

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Speaker 6: you know, anything that he asks me to do something,

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Speaker 6: you know, nine or ten times, I'm lord to a fault,

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Speaker 6: you know what I'm saying, Even if it's something I

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Speaker 6: after I did the interview. I see now. I have

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Speaker 3: So I'm glad I did it.

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Speaker 7: How did you guys prepare for her?

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Speaker 4: A lot of studying, a lot of smoke and a

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Speaker 4: I get to your question. You know, when he said

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Speaker 4: But you know when he said he didn't want to

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Speaker 4: I don't think that was his choice because once he

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Speaker 4: And I think that he implanted himself in the middle.

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Speaker 4: And I always respected, I mean, I always will respect

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Speaker 4: It took him a minute, like literally, hey, let me

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Speaker 3: Jack wouldn't fucking with you. Oh.

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Speaker 4: So she came in the room, and then she took

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Speaker 3: And Jack was still tough, like, I ain't with this.

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Speaker 4: And then he saw this one piece I already liked,

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Speaker 3: So we were straight. So it took a minute.

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Speaker 7: Did she know that you didn't want to do it?

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Speaker 4: She had a little bit, She had show him how

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Speaker 3: But how do we prepare?

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Speaker 4: I mean just I mean we prepared like we used

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Speaker 4: we'd go back and do research and then we get

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Speaker 4: strategy with this interview was it wasn't a political interview.

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Speaker 4: It wasn't all the smoke interview. We happened to ask

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Speaker 4: that opening question to get her laughing and smiling, and

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Speaker 3: Bit, and it was it was a fun interview.

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Speaker 5: connected with her. She could there's no script for that.

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Speaker 5: You know, you can't go to your talking points for that.

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Speaker 5: You got to be honest, You got.

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Speaker 3: To be and that's what we wanted, you know, Charlotte Mane.

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Speaker 4: We've we've been lucky to humanize and make our guests

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Speaker 4: and biracial and step step parents we both are, but

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Speaker 8: And that's all telling Jack.

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Speaker 5: So I'm like, yo, if not, you didn who because

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Speaker 5: you know, if you got an opinion about these elected

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Speaker 4: But I also think too, I mean, she could have

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Speaker 2: I love the fact that she came in. I'll sad

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Speaker 2: that the other day in the radio, I was like,

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Speaker 7: Yeah, a little bird of conversations with her, like off

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Speaker 7: of the air, like, were there things that y'all talk about?

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Speaker 7: Offer were you like to have?

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Speaker 3: I asked her.

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Speaker 4: She know, because I knew that the the Vice President

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Speaker 4: that's when we got kind of started talking about the

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Speaker 4: art and stuff she's done to the house to kind

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Speaker 4: of put her put her energy around it. What else

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Speaker 4: we talked about, Actually, I feel like the last three

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Speaker 4: we caught some of it just it was a back

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Speaker 3: You know, do you remember what we were talking about

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Speaker 6: He was talking about what she asked about Gianna. We

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Speaker 6: talked about the war, yeah, and being there, you know,

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Speaker 1: We believe did y'all smoke before y'all got there?

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Speaker 4: I did, of course, I'm now, yeah, it was too

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Speaker 6: We all know what we need, We all what we

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Speaker 5: What stands out from that conversation? I mean, you have it,

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Speaker 4: I think the pre conversation we went into his office

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Speaker 4: You know, you had the fun and had one Emmys

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Speaker 6: Seeing meeting him as a teenager and seeing him grow

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Speaker 6: You know, with so many, so many players and basketball

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Speaker 8: It was Kobe a Scooper or a Scooper or a score.

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Speaker 3: He was definitely a hoopo.

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Speaker 3: Definitely a dog, not even close. Probably the mask out

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Speaker 2: You did you did that to Kobe but they didn't

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Speaker 4: He called me that, so I was Actually my deal

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean, I think if anyone deserves this opportunity

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Speaker 4: But you know, the Lakers are one of those teams

442
00:15:45,520 --> 00:15:47,000
Speaker 4: where you got to produce what have you done for

443
00:15:47,040 --> 00:15:48,800
Speaker 4: me lately? And they haven't necessarily done that. So it's

444
00:15:48,840 --> 00:15:51,320
Speaker 4: going to be interesting, you know, scrutinize year.

445
00:15:51,360 --> 00:15:53,040
Speaker 7: I think we were talking about that earlier. Do you

446
00:15:53,080 --> 00:15:55,560
Speaker 7: think that Brownie will actually have the chance to develop?

447
00:15:55,560 --> 00:15:57,160
Speaker 7: But you feel like people going to pigeonhold him so

448
00:15:57,240 --> 00:15:57,600
Speaker 7: much that it.

449
00:15:57,640 --> 00:15:59,640
Speaker 6: Might get you even more of a chance to develop

450
00:15:59,640 --> 00:16:02,080
Speaker 6: because it's father's death, Like that's the motivation they have,

451
00:16:02,280 --> 00:16:04,960
Speaker 6: and he's seeing what it takes to be great. So

452
00:16:05,040 --> 00:16:06,840
Speaker 6: all that is in him already, and now he's in

453
00:16:06,880 --> 00:16:09,560
Speaker 6: the in the in the facilities where you have everything

454
00:16:09,560 --> 00:16:11,800
Speaker 6: here to be great. I think, I think, yes, everything

455
00:16:11,800 --> 00:16:13,360
Speaker 6: you need. And I think he's definitely gonna blosm over.

456
00:16:13,440 --> 00:16:15,080
Speaker 4: And I also think too, I mean, I don't think

457
00:16:15,120 --> 00:16:17,440
Speaker 4: you look at Bronnie in the same light as you

458
00:16:17,440 --> 00:16:23,560
Speaker 4: look at lebron. I just think I think he's going

459
00:16:23,640 --> 00:16:25,280
Speaker 4: to be a very solid role player. I mean, he's

460
00:16:25,280 --> 00:16:28,160
Speaker 4: got a high high i Q place defense, can make

461
00:16:28,160 --> 00:16:30,120
Speaker 4: the right play, can shoot the ball. So I just

462
00:16:30,160 --> 00:16:32,080
Speaker 4: think he needed a little bit more time to develop,

463
00:16:32,080 --> 00:16:34,320
Speaker 4: and now he's developing on the biggest stage. But I think,

464
00:16:34,360 --> 00:16:36,680
Speaker 4: you know, two three, four years, he's going to be

465
00:16:36,680 --> 00:16:38,640
Speaker 4: a very solid rotational player.

466
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Speaker 1: Does he starting the leg or do you think there's no?

467
00:16:41,360 --> 00:16:43,480
Speaker 4: I think he should. To me, it's about playing. You know,

468
00:16:43,480 --> 00:16:46,040
Speaker 4: I play with JJ and I fuck with JJ.

469
00:16:46,120 --> 00:16:46,360
Speaker 3: Hevy.

470
00:16:46,400 --> 00:16:47,720
Speaker 4: I think he's you know, he's gonna be on the

471
00:16:47,760 --> 00:16:51,000
Speaker 4: hot seat. But I like his mentality. He's very he teaches,

472
00:16:51,080 --> 00:16:54,160
Speaker 4: he's he's a personable person. So for all the people

473
00:16:54,240 --> 00:16:56,720
Speaker 4: say no, that like the most important thing is getting

474
00:16:56,760 --> 00:16:58,560
Speaker 4: to play. You don't learn ship from sitting on the

475
00:16:58,560 --> 00:17:00,720
Speaker 4: bench and watching. So Bronni has us to play. So

476
00:17:00,760 --> 00:17:02,800
Speaker 4: whether that's going to be eight to ten minutes in

477
00:17:02,800 --> 00:17:04,400
Speaker 4: the real game or if it's going to play thirty

478
00:17:04,400 --> 00:17:06,280
Speaker 4: minutes on the G league level, I think he just

479
00:17:06,320 --> 00:17:08,399
Speaker 4: needs to play, and I think they'll figure that out.

480
00:17:08,680 --> 00:17:10,920
Speaker 6: You can't simulate the NBA in the G League, though,

481
00:17:11,080 --> 00:17:12,600
Speaker 6: you got to play in the NBA. They understand the

482
00:17:12,680 --> 00:17:15,439
Speaker 6: NBA pacing game the league is totally but you just

483
00:17:15,480 --> 00:17:15,960
Speaker 6: have to play.

484
00:17:15,960 --> 00:17:16,160
Speaker 3: Though.

485
00:17:16,280 --> 00:17:18,120
Speaker 6: Yeah, I mean it can get you ready, but yeah,

486
00:17:18,240 --> 00:17:22,119
Speaker 6: it's order to be successful day. But to be successful

487
00:17:22,200 --> 00:17:24,440
Speaker 6: and to make a name for yourself in NBA, you

488
00:17:24,480 --> 00:17:25,760
Speaker 6: know what I'm saying, You have to learn how to

489
00:17:25,760 --> 00:17:26,480
Speaker 6: play that game.

490
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Speaker 8: Yeah, no doubt weill be considered success.

491
00:17:28,600 --> 00:17:32,720
Speaker 3: But Brianni, uh fifteen, fourteen year career a career you

492
00:17:32,720 --> 00:17:33,400
Speaker 3: know in the NBA.

493
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Speaker 6: I mean that would say we not expect him to

494
00:17:35,440 --> 00:17:37,600
Speaker 6: score fifty thousand points, you know what I'm saying.

495
00:17:37,600 --> 00:17:39,720
Speaker 3: We expect him to be a star and possibly be

496
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Speaker 3: an All Star one day.

497
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Speaker 2: I got to ask, you know, since since we are

498
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Speaker 2: in New York. New York just made a trade that

499
00:17:47,040 --> 00:17:50,040
Speaker 2: sent Cat here. What were your thoughts on that trade?

500
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Speaker 3: Wonderful?

501
00:17:50,440 --> 00:17:53,040
Speaker 6: I know y'all happy, Yeah, we got to I love

502
00:17:53,119 --> 00:17:55,240
Speaker 6: Jorgius rounder, but I take care of him any day,

503
00:17:55,720 --> 00:17:55,919
Speaker 6: you know.

504
00:17:56,359 --> 00:17:58,280
Speaker 3: And Cat is way more durable.

505
00:17:58,560 --> 00:18:00,679
Speaker 1: We lose a shooter though, you lose a.

506
00:18:00,720 --> 00:18:03,720
Speaker 6: Shoot, but but he does way more than just shoot,

507
00:18:03,800 --> 00:18:05,840
Speaker 6: can't he does? And then and in the East two,

508
00:18:06,240 --> 00:18:07,880
Speaker 6: I think a big guy like that that can spread

509
00:18:07,920 --> 00:18:08,880
Speaker 6: the floor on this team.

510
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Speaker 4: I think him and be at it to the next

511
00:18:11,640 --> 00:18:14,439
Speaker 4: scrap one time is gonna be you know, I'm adult.

512
00:18:14,480 --> 00:18:15,400
Speaker 3: I like dogs.

513
00:18:15,400 --> 00:18:19,119
Speaker 4: So obviously seeing Devincenzo and Julius Randall leave, you know,

514
00:18:19,760 --> 00:18:24,280
Speaker 4: kind of like you know what I mean, because you

515
00:18:24,280 --> 00:18:25,640
Speaker 4: know they're they're trying to put something together.

516
00:18:25,920 --> 00:18:26,919
Speaker 3: They put the whole.

517
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Speaker 6: Replace that, replace that, man, let's do.

518
00:18:40,000 --> 00:18:42,520
Speaker 3: I'm not mistaken. He hit the most threes and nix history.

519
00:18:42,480 --> 00:18:46,240
Speaker 8: Yes, it helps us out people.

520
00:18:46,960 --> 00:18:49,119
Speaker 3: Yeah, Now he's a very solid role player, definitely.

521
00:18:49,119 --> 00:18:54,440
Speaker 4: I definitely feel like now, so I think Cats really

522
00:18:54,440 --> 00:18:56,400
Speaker 4: going to help this team if he's three level. Cat

523
00:18:56,520 --> 00:18:58,960
Speaker 4: not just to staying outside and shooting jumpers all day.

524
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Speaker 4: And I think this and basic won't allow some of

525
00:19:01,680 --> 00:19:03,320
Speaker 4: the stuff he was doing in Minnesota, where he would

526
00:19:03,320 --> 00:19:05,640
Speaker 4: settle a lot because he is so skilled and talented

527
00:19:05,680 --> 00:19:07,720
Speaker 4: and can score on all three levels, and there's a

528
00:19:07,840 --> 00:19:10,639
Speaker 4: real real problem. But I think sometimes he settles. But

529
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Speaker 4: I think he's coming into a situation that's not only

530
00:19:12,800 --> 00:19:15,400
Speaker 4: good for him, but you know, his fiance or his girl,

531
00:19:15,440 --> 00:19:17,440
Speaker 4: because you know she's kind of into things too. So

532
00:19:17,520 --> 00:19:19,720
Speaker 4: being in this media market is going to be very

533
00:19:19,760 --> 00:19:21,560
Speaker 4: beneficial for him if he attacks it the right way.

534
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Speaker 6: I feel like, isn't this family from Yeah?

535
00:19:27,359 --> 00:19:29,320
Speaker 4: Yeah, man, I wish both sides good luck. I'm intionted

536
00:19:29,320 --> 00:19:32,320
Speaker 4: to see too, how Anthony Edwards and Julius Randall get along,

537
00:19:32,359 --> 00:19:34,159
Speaker 4: because that's two dogs right there. So it's interesting to

538
00:19:34,160 --> 00:19:35,480
Speaker 4: see how they how their chemistry works.

539
00:19:35,560 --> 00:19:37,080
Speaker 5: You know what I want to ask you about Jack,

540
00:19:37,119 --> 00:19:39,520
Speaker 5: that the Malice in the Palace died, great man, I

541
00:19:39,560 --> 00:19:42,879
Speaker 5: didn't realize how much that situation impacted y'all.

542
00:19:43,119 --> 00:19:43,600
Speaker 1: You know what I mean?

543
00:19:44,280 --> 00:19:45,800
Speaker 8: You think you think about it? Yes, y'all could have

544
00:19:45,840 --> 00:19:47,359
Speaker 8: wanted Chip that.

545
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Speaker 3: I think that was a year for us to win

546
00:19:49,200 --> 00:19:49,560
Speaker 3: the Chippy.

547
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Speaker 6: If you look when lebro happened and we probably had

548
00:19:52,000 --> 00:19:54,080
Speaker 6: the second or best record in the league, when that happened,

549
00:19:54,080 --> 00:19:56,359
Speaker 6: and we was blowing everybody out, and I think we

550
00:19:56,400 --> 00:19:59,520
Speaker 6: all knew that that was Reggie's last hurrah. You know,

551
00:19:59,600 --> 00:20:02,919
Speaker 6: we want winning for him. But like I said, it

552
00:20:02,920 --> 00:20:04,879
Speaker 6: wasn't the same I missed. I missed with two or

553
00:20:04,880 --> 00:20:07,879
Speaker 6: three All Star Games because of that Jermaine. Jermaine was

554
00:20:07,880 --> 00:20:09,639
Speaker 6: a shoe in Hall of Famer around their time to

555
00:20:09,760 --> 00:20:13,040
Speaker 6: that happened. And Ron was possibly the first you know,

556
00:20:13,080 --> 00:20:15,760
Speaker 6: can win Defensive Player and Office in MVP in the

557
00:20:15,800 --> 00:20:18,080
Speaker 6: same year. So all those things were working for us,

558
00:20:18,080 --> 00:20:20,840
Speaker 6: and that one incident killed everything and it didn't and it.

559
00:20:20,840 --> 00:20:22,600
Speaker 8: Didn't bring It didn't seem like it brought y'all together,

560
00:20:22,680 --> 00:20:23,280
Speaker 8: not all of y'all.

561
00:20:24,040 --> 00:20:27,080
Speaker 6: It didn't because everybody didn't do it for Law to

562
00:20:27,760 --> 00:20:29,440
Speaker 6: you know what I'm saying. Everybody went in that situation

563
00:20:29,480 --> 00:20:31,280
Speaker 6: for Law till some people was in it because they

564
00:20:31,320 --> 00:20:33,400
Speaker 6: was there, you know what I mean. I actually rolled

565
00:20:33,440 --> 00:20:35,280
Speaker 6: with my teammate for you know, for being a good teammate.

566
00:20:35,359 --> 00:20:37,399
Speaker 6: A lot of guys just in there doing stuff that

567
00:20:37,640 --> 00:20:41,159
Speaker 6: wasn't necessary, you know, and uh, it cost us that season.

568
00:20:41,680 --> 00:20:43,080
Speaker 8: How many times did that happen you in your life?

569
00:20:43,160 --> 00:20:43,320
Speaker 3: Day?

570
00:20:43,359 --> 00:20:45,480
Speaker 5: Were you just I don't give this is my guy.

571
00:20:45,560 --> 00:20:47,360
Speaker 5: We're going at you. You you going to war, I'm

572
00:20:47,359 --> 00:20:47,800
Speaker 5: going to war.

573
00:20:47,960 --> 00:20:49,840
Speaker 3: I'm low to a fault, I'm long to a fault.

574
00:20:49,840 --> 00:20:51,000
Speaker 6: But you know what I'm saying. But like I could

575
00:20:51,040 --> 00:20:52,840
Speaker 6: sleep that way. You know what I'm saying. We go

576
00:20:52,920 --> 00:20:54,439
Speaker 6: somewhere right now. So I mighta be the first one

577
00:20:54,480 --> 00:20:55,840
Speaker 6: to jump out there. That's just how I was taught,

578
00:20:55,880 --> 00:20:58,000
Speaker 6: That's how I was raised. But you know, as you

579
00:20:58,000 --> 00:20:58,880
Speaker 6: get older, you get smarter.

580
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Speaker 8: Is that one of the things that you regret that season,

581
00:21:01,280 --> 00:21:02,280
Speaker 8: like how all of that played up?

582
00:21:02,359 --> 00:21:05,560
Speaker 6: Yeah, I regret it because you know, I was consider

583
00:21:05,600 --> 00:21:07,560
Speaker 6: myself a real good basketball player, and I missed a

584
00:21:07,560 --> 00:21:10,280
Speaker 6: lot of All Star games like accolades because of that.

585
00:21:10,320 --> 00:21:13,600
Speaker 6: You know, even when I've had great seasons, that still

586
00:21:13,680 --> 00:21:15,480
Speaker 6: was a cloud over my over my great play.

587
00:21:15,720 --> 00:21:18,840
Speaker 3: And it hurted Ron too and Jamaine. So it definitely

588
00:21:18,880 --> 00:21:20,200
Speaker 3: wasn't beneficial for none of us.

589
00:21:20,440 --> 00:21:22,560
Speaker 8: Was it tough to do that, doc, Like just to

590
00:21:22,680 --> 00:21:23,439
Speaker 8: sit there and after we.

591
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Speaker 3: Live all of it, Well, I mean it was the

592
00:21:25,200 --> 00:21:26,080
Speaker 3: reason why I was.

593
00:21:26,119 --> 00:21:30,040
Speaker 6: It wasn't tough because it was grat gratifying for getting

594
00:21:30,040 --> 00:21:32,240
Speaker 6: some money for talking about it. You lost so much

595
00:21:32,320 --> 00:21:34,480
Speaker 6: for one punch, Like, let me get some money back

596
00:21:34,480 --> 00:21:35,199
Speaker 6: for talking about it.

597
00:21:35,240 --> 00:21:37,560
Speaker 8: You do more than one punch what I threw two?

598
00:21:37,960 --> 00:21:38,360
Speaker 8: That's it.

599
00:21:38,480 --> 00:21:40,159
Speaker 3: Ye see, I'm glad you said that.

600
00:21:42,640 --> 00:21:42,879
Speaker 1: Right now.

601
00:21:46,840 --> 00:21:48,520
Speaker 6: This is why I said I shouldn't have got fined.

602
00:21:49,560 --> 00:21:51,880
Speaker 6: When it all happened, I jumped up and went over

603
00:21:51,920 --> 00:21:54,680
Speaker 6: the stanch. I went six rolls up, didn't hit nobody,

604
00:21:55,080 --> 00:21:57,960
Speaker 6: got to run. A beard was thrown in his face

605
00:21:58,400 --> 00:22:00,800
Speaker 6: the second time, and that's the guy here it. When

606
00:22:00,800 --> 00:22:03,200
Speaker 6: I turn around, a guy was holding wrong, punching him,

607
00:22:03,320 --> 00:22:03,920
Speaker 6: I hit him.

608
00:22:04,160 --> 00:22:04,520
Speaker 3: I didn't.

609
00:22:04,520 --> 00:22:05,960
Speaker 6: If I was just wanted to be stupid, I could

610
00:22:06,000 --> 00:22:08,360
Speaker 6: have hit everybody those six rolls up. But I went

611
00:22:08,440 --> 00:22:10,960
Speaker 6: to protect him, so I wasn't really don't know idiot stuff,

612
00:22:10,960 --> 00:22:11,440
Speaker 6: you know what I'm saying.

613
00:22:11,480 --> 00:22:13,160
Speaker 3: I was just being a protector. But it just turned

614
00:22:13,200 --> 00:22:15,040
Speaker 3: out to look that way. So if you look at it,

615
00:22:15,040 --> 00:22:16,680
Speaker 3: I didn't. I could have hit a whole bunch of people.

616
00:22:16,680 --> 00:22:20,879
Speaker 3: I didn't. The man didn't get loose. As now.

617
00:22:21,840 --> 00:22:24,320
Speaker 8: I wasn't been watching the evolution in marijuana in the NBA.

618
00:22:24,680 --> 00:22:25,400
Speaker 3: I was beautiful.

619
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Speaker 6: I think I think we don't get enough credit for it,

620
00:22:28,000 --> 00:22:29,480
Speaker 6: you know, because to be able to play an the

621
00:22:29,520 --> 00:22:31,480
Speaker 6: NBA now and not get tested like you don't know.

622
00:22:31,600 --> 00:22:34,439
Speaker 6: We went through job and we were paying people and

623
00:22:34,480 --> 00:22:37,679
Speaker 6: all kind of drinking, all kinds of stuff, justice and

624
00:22:37,720 --> 00:22:39,720
Speaker 6: do all kinds of stuff just to be able to smoke.

625
00:22:39,800 --> 00:22:42,080
Speaker 6: So now they can, you know, do it freely. I mean,

626
00:22:42,160 --> 00:22:44,280
Speaker 6: I know a lot of guys that might not talk

627
00:22:44,320 --> 00:22:46,359
Speaker 6: about it publicly, but I know they appreciate, you know,

628
00:22:46,440 --> 00:22:48,880
Speaker 6: being able to smoke and and relax after the game

629
00:22:48,960 --> 00:22:51,040
Speaker 6: the right way without taking all them pills and shiit.

630
00:22:51,160 --> 00:22:53,159
Speaker 4: I think, you know, when I retired in seventeen, that

631
00:22:53,240 --> 00:22:55,119
Speaker 4: was one of my main focuses being the shield for

632
00:22:55,160 --> 00:22:57,200
Speaker 4: the current guys. And you know, myself and my brother

633
00:22:57,440 --> 00:22:59,240
Speaker 4: Harrington were flying out here to New York to talk

634
00:22:59,240 --> 00:23:02,600
Speaker 4: to the players and the league and just understanding the plant.

635
00:23:02,920 --> 00:23:05,639
Speaker 4: Letty the plant until they both got you know, people

636
00:23:05,680 --> 00:23:07,760
Speaker 4: on both sides to start studying it. And from what

637
00:23:07,800 --> 00:23:09,760
Speaker 4: I heard that the NBA was really against it, still

638
00:23:09,840 --> 00:23:11,480
Speaker 4: the PA was more for it, and they had to

639
00:23:11,480 --> 00:23:14,400
Speaker 4: come to a common ground and they ended up doing that,

640
00:23:14,480 --> 00:23:16,320
Speaker 4: you know obviously in the bubble when you know, with

641
00:23:16,200 --> 00:23:18,800
Speaker 4: the COVID hit and they gave the players time off

642
00:23:18,800 --> 00:23:19,880
Speaker 4: and then they brought everyone back.

643
00:23:19,800 --> 00:23:20,280
Speaker 3: To the bubble.

644
00:23:20,600 --> 00:23:22,560
Speaker 4: If they would have tested that, probably eighty five percent

645
00:23:22,560 --> 00:23:25,000
Speaker 4: of the league would have failed because guys were off,

646
00:23:25,000 --> 00:23:26,520
Speaker 4: didn't know if the season was going to come out,

647
00:23:26,520 --> 00:23:28,680
Speaker 4: and the majority of the guys you know, medicate it, so,

648
00:23:28,840 --> 00:23:30,280
Speaker 4: you know, I think there was a very smart move

649
00:23:30,280 --> 00:23:32,280
Speaker 4: for them to co and bypass it there and then

650
00:23:32,480 --> 00:23:33,480
Speaker 4: after that it was gone.

651
00:23:33,520 --> 00:23:35,639
Speaker 3: So I think I say all that to say it's

652
00:23:36,040 --> 00:23:36,400
Speaker 3: it was.

653
00:23:36,560 --> 00:23:39,760
Speaker 4: It was tough smoking our entire career because it was

654
00:23:39,800 --> 00:23:41,480
Speaker 4: you know, every time we did it, we were risking

655
00:23:41,480 --> 00:23:43,920
Speaker 4: fines or suspensions. So it was a real job to

656
00:23:44,320 --> 00:23:46,199
Speaker 4: smoke in the league. And now, like Jack said, just

657
00:23:46,240 --> 00:23:48,199
Speaker 4: to be able to freely do it, to relax, go

658
00:23:48,280 --> 00:23:52,840
Speaker 4: to sleep, focused, anti inflammatory, all the properties for it.

659
00:23:52,960 --> 00:23:54,840
Speaker 3: I think it's happy for those guys.

660
00:23:54,960 --> 00:23:57,360
Speaker 7: Were y'all trying to have the conversations then though, like, yo,

661
00:23:57,560 --> 00:24:02,320
Speaker 7: this is what this is what's helping us.

662
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Speaker 3: All.

663
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Speaker 4: Yeah, we did the conversations needed to happen, But I

664
00:24:07,000 --> 00:24:09,600
Speaker 4: think my conversation when I started talking was after the

665
00:24:09,640 --> 00:24:11,600
Speaker 4: fact because it was just so like they didn't want

666
00:24:11,600 --> 00:24:12,760
Speaker 4: to hear that shit, you know what I mean. It

667
00:24:12,920 --> 00:24:14,960
Speaker 4: just it was something you couldn't do, you know what

668
00:24:15,000 --> 00:24:17,480
Speaker 4: I mean. So I think as as the world progressed

669
00:24:17,520 --> 00:24:20,720
Speaker 4: and we started getting you know, research behind the positives

670
00:24:20,720 --> 00:24:22,520
Speaker 4: instead of just the negatives, I think that's when the

671
00:24:22,560 --> 00:24:23,600
Speaker 4: game started to change.

672
00:24:23,680 --> 00:24:25,520
Speaker 5: Could you physically play high? And I'd be reading these

673
00:24:25,520 --> 00:24:27,200
Speaker 5: stories about Michael and might they used to be drinking.

674
00:24:27,240 --> 00:24:28,560
Speaker 5: But why then going to drop.

675
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Speaker 3: Fifty before I play or not? I just smoke exactly

676
00:24:33,080 --> 00:24:33,760
Speaker 3: before the game.

677
00:24:33,800 --> 00:24:36,000
Speaker 6: But that day early in the morning, probably yeah, I

678
00:24:36,000 --> 00:24:38,440
Speaker 6: probably did, but not going to the game. I came down,

679
00:24:38,840 --> 00:24:41,200
Speaker 6: but like going to the game fresh off one absolutely

680
00:24:41,240 --> 00:24:42,640
Speaker 6: not not in the NBA, you getting cooked.

681
00:24:42,680 --> 00:24:44,280
Speaker 4: Yeah, I know a couple of dudes that that that

682
00:24:44,480 --> 00:24:47,639
Speaker 4: smoked driving into the gym. We won't say them names,

683
00:24:47,680 --> 00:24:49,640
Speaker 4: but they was different. So I mean I could smoke,

684
00:24:49,720 --> 00:24:51,639
Speaker 4: you know a few hours before, but I wouldn't smoke

685
00:24:51,720 --> 00:24:53,000
Speaker 4: on the way to the game one because I didn't

686
00:24:53,000 --> 00:24:55,120
Speaker 4: want to smell like it around everybody. But too, it's

687
00:24:55,160 --> 00:24:57,679
Speaker 4: just like, depending on what you're smoking, you're putting yourself

688
00:24:57,680 --> 00:25:00,600
Speaker 4: out out there in the atmosphere sometimes.

689
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Speaker 6: So I was geeked up in the Western Conference Finals though, yeah,

690
00:25:07,480 --> 00:25:09,720
Speaker 6: I guess Dallas, I was geeked up we smoked before

691
00:25:09,720 --> 00:25:12,000
Speaker 6: the game. I smoked right after shooting around like three

692
00:25:12,000 --> 00:25:13,560
Speaker 6: hours for the game, and I didn't go to sleep,

693
00:25:13,600 --> 00:25:15,280
Speaker 6: so I was just geeked up doing the game. Like

694
00:25:15,320 --> 00:25:18,399
Speaker 6: certain times you don't take that nap you loaded, and

695
00:25:18,680 --> 00:25:20,000
Speaker 6: I did in the West Conference finals because I was

696
00:25:20,040 --> 00:25:20,480
Speaker 6: from Texas.

697
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Speaker 1: I was just feeling good at the time and went

698
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Speaker 1: to work.

699
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Speaker 3: What worked for me?

700
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Speaker 5: What was the process of putting this book together? Like,

701
00:25:25,920 --> 00:25:28,239
Speaker 5: how did y'all choose which conversations to put in there?

702
00:25:28,560 --> 00:25:32,600
Speaker 4: Shut out daling, yeah, obviously, yeah, you and the company,

703
00:25:32,640 --> 00:25:37,000
Speaker 4: and then dealing just understanding you know, where we the

704
00:25:37,119 --> 00:25:39,879
Speaker 4: caliber of guests we had, and the different topics we

705
00:25:40,000 --> 00:25:42,399
Speaker 4: spoke on. You know, again, there's a ton of people

706
00:25:42,960 --> 00:25:45,200
Speaker 4: in this space now as far as sports, but I

707
00:25:45,240 --> 00:25:47,439
Speaker 4: don't look as that as competition. I think everyone had

708
00:25:47,440 --> 00:25:49,679
Speaker 4: their own journey and their own voice and their own experiences,

709
00:25:49,680 --> 00:25:52,119
Speaker 4: and I think we still think with all the conversations

710
00:25:52,160 --> 00:25:55,199
Speaker 4: we had, our conversation is still different from everybody else's

711
00:25:55,200 --> 00:25:59,040
Speaker 4: so just important, you know, family, mental health, you know,

712
00:26:00,680 --> 00:26:03,560
Speaker 4: everything that comes along in this journey. And and you know,

713
00:26:03,560 --> 00:26:07,040
Speaker 4: we've been able to transition from not just a sports

714
00:26:07,080 --> 00:26:08,880
Speaker 4: show to just kind of a more of a culturally

715
00:26:08,920 --> 00:26:11,119
Speaker 4: relevant show, you know, when we're talking to the Kevin's

716
00:26:11,160 --> 00:26:13,240
Speaker 4: and the Wills and the Jada's and the Jamie's and

717
00:26:13,240 --> 00:26:15,920
Speaker 4: and the VP. So I just think, you know, high

718
00:26:16,000 --> 00:26:19,040
Speaker 4: level conversations with high level people, and you know, being

719
00:26:19,080 --> 00:26:20,720
Speaker 4: able to be celebrated with that. I mean, if I'm

720
00:26:20,720 --> 00:26:23,160
Speaker 4: not mistaken with the first podcast with the coffee table

721
00:26:23,160 --> 00:26:26,320
Speaker 4: book man, so I think it's it's it's a tremendous opportunity.

722
00:26:26,359 --> 00:26:28,600
Speaker 4: We're very thankful for it and and hope that everyone

723
00:26:28,680 --> 00:26:29,240
Speaker 4: checks it out.

724
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Speaker 5: I named a couple of names. Won't you tell me

725
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Speaker 5: what your thought of the interview is? Don Staley? Uh, well,

726
00:26:34,240 --> 00:26:35,080
Speaker 5: a lot of people don't know.

727
00:26:35,240 --> 00:26:37,280
Speaker 6: That's when I've been with my favor my favorite female

728
00:26:37,280 --> 00:26:40,760
Speaker 6: player of all time, my rookie year I wore twenty

729
00:26:40,760 --> 00:26:41,720
Speaker 6: four because of Don Stateley.

730
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Speaker 3: People don't know that. And when I was in New Jersey,

731
00:26:43,800 --> 00:26:45,719
Speaker 3: so it was an honor to me to baby talk

732
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Speaker 3: to her.

733
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Speaker 6: You know, I never met in person, So I can't

734
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Speaker 6: wait to actually take a picture of it with somebody

735
00:26:50,720 --> 00:26:51,720
Speaker 6: I have mind for a long time.

736
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Speaker 8: That's different, like what what about her?

737
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Speaker 5: You know, I've never heard of Guyfield woman basketball playing

738
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Speaker 5: for something like that, Like what about her influenced.

739
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Speaker 6: Well, her whole swag, Like she she we had their

740
00:27:00,440 --> 00:27:02,639
Speaker 6: rough park basketball style and she was one of the

741
00:27:02,640 --> 00:27:04,600
Speaker 6: first females to bring it like AI.

742
00:27:04,880 --> 00:27:06,360
Speaker 3: You know, she woke back a short how she did

743
00:27:06,359 --> 00:27:06,800
Speaker 3: it her way.

744
00:27:06,840 --> 00:27:08,800
Speaker 6: She talked to talk, walk to walk, and you didn't

745
00:27:08,800 --> 00:27:11,000
Speaker 6: see that from a woman in basketball growing up. And

746
00:27:11,040 --> 00:27:14,000
Speaker 6: then she was at a school that was the female school,

747
00:27:14,000 --> 00:27:16,320
Speaker 6: that was always on TV. The basketball game was always

748
00:27:16,359 --> 00:27:17,720
Speaker 6: on TV. So that's what we say. So that's why

749
00:27:17,720 --> 00:27:19,800
Speaker 6: I've seen a lot or not same.

750
00:27:19,920 --> 00:27:21,639
Speaker 4: I mean, just being a fan of her game and

751
00:27:21,640 --> 00:27:23,720
Speaker 4: then how she's been able to transition and be a

752
00:27:23,800 --> 00:27:26,320
Speaker 4: leader of young women and women. I'm always a big

753
00:27:26,359 --> 00:27:28,040
Speaker 4: fan of that. So, you know, being able to get

754
00:27:28,080 --> 00:27:30,240
Speaker 4: to talk to her and to me honestly, and I'm

755
00:27:30,280 --> 00:27:31,280
Speaker 4: sure you guys probably.

756
00:27:31,000 --> 00:27:31,560
Speaker 3: Feel the same way.

757
00:27:31,600 --> 00:27:33,199
Speaker 4: Like we're fans of a majority of the people we

758
00:27:33,240 --> 00:27:35,399
Speaker 4: talked to, and getting a chance to get that in depth,

759
00:27:35,440 --> 00:27:36,800
Speaker 4: you know, to be able to peel back the layers

760
00:27:36,840 --> 00:27:38,600
Speaker 4: and understand who they are as a person and how

761
00:27:38,800 --> 00:27:41,400
Speaker 4: their upbringing brought them to be the people they are.

762
00:27:41,680 --> 00:27:43,800
Speaker 4: I mean, that's always the joy and the journey of

763
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Speaker 4: these conversations.

764
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Speaker 8: For me, about the Jamie Foxx convo that happened during

765
00:27:47,119 --> 00:27:47,520
Speaker 8: a cool.

766
00:27:48,080 --> 00:27:50,520
Speaker 4: Yeah, we laughed so hard before we even got on air.

767
00:27:50,600 --> 00:27:54,320
Speaker 4: Bro it was incredible. He was funny as hell. Jamie's great.

768
00:27:54,320 --> 00:27:55,919
Speaker 4: I mean to me, Jamie's one of the most talented

769
00:27:55,920 --> 00:27:59,800
Speaker 4: people this planet's ever seen. This versatility across several different

770
00:27:59,800 --> 00:28:01,880
Speaker 4: front this is amazing on top of him just being

771
00:28:01,920 --> 00:28:03,800
Speaker 4: a really good dude man.

772
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Speaker 3: So that was that was a dope conversation.

773
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Speaker 6: You have a lot of comedians that's funny when they're

774
00:28:07,440 --> 00:28:08,080
Speaker 6: doing their work.

775
00:28:08,240 --> 00:28:08,679
Speaker 3: A lot of them.

776
00:28:08,720 --> 00:28:10,760
Speaker 1: Some of them ain't naturally fun you know what I'm saying.

777
00:28:10,840 --> 00:28:13,000
Speaker 6: Jamis is naturally funny, and like I said, like forty

778
00:28:13,000 --> 00:28:15,040
Speaker 6: five minutes before we even turned the camera on Racking,

779
00:28:15,320 --> 00:28:17,359
Speaker 6: he was in wrath form like he was excited to.

780
00:28:17,359 --> 00:28:19,119
Speaker 3: Be on the show as well. So that was that

781
00:28:19,200 --> 00:28:20,080
Speaker 3: was one of the best ones.

782
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Speaker 5: You know, Jack, you you've dealt with a lot of

783
00:28:22,320 --> 00:28:25,280
Speaker 5: grief over the last few years. Of course, George Floyd,

784
00:28:25,680 --> 00:28:29,720
Speaker 5: your brother, sister, how have you been dealing with that

785
00:28:29,720 --> 00:28:30,520
Speaker 5: that level of grief?

786
00:28:30,760 --> 00:28:31,080
Speaker 3: Uh?

787
00:28:31,200 --> 00:28:37,440
Speaker 6: Support system these guys, you know, my mom and sister, Uh,

788
00:28:37,840 --> 00:28:39,320
Speaker 6: It's been hard, but you know it's a part of life.

789
00:28:39,320 --> 00:28:39,520
Speaker 3: Bro.

790
00:28:40,880 --> 00:28:42,720
Speaker 6: Too much is given much as required. You know, we

791
00:28:42,760 --> 00:28:44,560
Speaker 6: all go we all. I'm not going through nothing that

792
00:28:44,760 --> 00:28:46,920
Speaker 6: halfy y'all. I haven't been through. But it gets to

793
00:28:46,960 --> 00:28:48,920
Speaker 6: a point where when it's somebody like his sister and brother,

794
00:28:49,040 --> 00:28:51,520
Speaker 6: like that's different. You know what I'm saying, Like that's

795
00:28:51,600 --> 00:28:54,000
Speaker 6: that that's different. So I haven't been the same, but

796
00:28:54,040 --> 00:28:56,840
Speaker 6: it's the day by day process. Absolutely, thanks fasking.

797
00:28:56,920 --> 00:28:58,560
Speaker 8: Absolutely, How did how did.

798
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Speaker 7: You guys know it was trying to talk about transition

799
00:29:00,840 --> 00:29:03,280
Speaker 7: that it was time to transition in and like lean

800
00:29:03,320 --> 00:29:06,000
Speaker 7: into like okay, the podcast, the merch like just the

801
00:29:06,040 --> 00:29:08,320
Speaker 7: business side of things, Like was that a switch? It

802
00:29:08,320 --> 00:29:09,920
Speaker 7: probably was planned? But when did you know, like, okay,

803
00:29:09,920 --> 00:29:10,960
Speaker 7: it's trying to jump the fence now.

804
00:29:11,520 --> 00:29:11,680
Speaker 3: Man.

805
00:29:11,720 --> 00:29:14,719
Speaker 4: The reason why I left the NBA the first year

806
00:29:14,760 --> 00:29:16,960
Speaker 4: of a three year deal, I happened. I won a

807
00:29:17,040 --> 00:29:20,600
Speaker 4: championship with Golden State and I wouldn't get against planned.

808
00:29:21,160 --> 00:29:23,000
Speaker 4: I wasn't get a chance to my kids, you know

809
00:29:23,000 --> 00:29:25,120
Speaker 4: what I mean. So you know, it was kind of

810
00:29:25,120 --> 00:29:27,600
Speaker 4: a perfect storm when we won a championship and I

811
00:29:27,640 --> 00:29:30,560
Speaker 4: was ready to move. So I was just kind of excited,

812
00:29:30,600 --> 00:29:34,280
Speaker 4: And I think sometimes how why athletes have a hard

813
00:29:34,320 --> 00:29:36,520
Speaker 4: time transitioning because they don't get to leave on their

814
00:29:36,840 --> 00:29:39,719
Speaker 4: own accord. Most of the time it's injuries or a

815
00:29:39,760 --> 00:29:42,400
Speaker 4: reputation or just teams don't want to fuck with you

816
00:29:42,400 --> 00:29:44,320
Speaker 4: no more. But you know, I was someone that just

817
00:29:44,440 --> 00:29:46,200
Speaker 4: you know, I was in the midst of a contract

818
00:29:46,200 --> 00:29:47,600
Speaker 4: and I'm just like, man, you know this is the

819
00:29:47,640 --> 00:29:50,320
Speaker 4: blessing we won. I want to I'm missing so much

820
00:29:50,360 --> 00:29:52,800
Speaker 4: time with my sons, my father first, so you know

821
00:29:52,880 --> 00:29:56,240
Speaker 4: that was my transitioning reason. And then once I transition,

822
00:29:56,320 --> 00:29:58,680
Speaker 4: I'm like, damn, what's next. You know I had invested well,

823
00:29:58,720 --> 00:30:01,120
Speaker 4: and you know, had some things moving, but I knew

824
00:30:01,120 --> 00:30:02,920
Speaker 4: I was still needed to find something to do.

825
00:30:03,320 --> 00:30:04,760
Speaker 3: And you know, media.

826
00:30:04,480 --> 00:30:08,720
Speaker 4: Came knocking for both of us, and you know, we

827
00:30:09,160 --> 00:30:10,960
Speaker 4: kind of ran with it. So, I mean, Jack is

828
00:30:11,000 --> 00:30:14,400
Speaker 4: the kind of guy that you know, he trusts very few,

829
00:30:14,480 --> 00:30:16,000
Speaker 4: so if you're in his trust circle, he's going to

830
00:30:16,040 --> 00:30:18,240
Speaker 4: listen to you. And when I pitched the idea, he

831
00:30:18,320 --> 00:30:20,680
Speaker 4: trusted me to run with it and make it happen.

832
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Speaker 4: And you know that's what I was able to do.

833
00:30:22,760 --> 00:30:26,840
Speaker 5: I feel like even with sports networks y'all was before

834
00:30:26,920 --> 00:30:28,600
Speaker 5: y'all time on that too. It seemed like when y'all

835
00:30:28,640 --> 00:30:30,360
Speaker 5: was on it, they didn't want y'all to talk so freely,

836
00:30:30,880 --> 00:30:31,640
Speaker 5: especially you Jack.

837
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Speaker 3: They didn't want.

838
00:30:32,160 --> 00:30:34,440
Speaker 5: You to know it seems like everybody could talked freely now,

839
00:30:34,440 --> 00:30:35,520
Speaker 5: but it seemed like they didn't want you to.

840
00:30:35,800 --> 00:30:38,040
Speaker 6: We did it anyway, you know, we did it anyway.

841
00:30:38,720 --> 00:30:40,720
Speaker 6: You know, I'm you know, shout out to Wolves. But

842
00:30:40,760 --> 00:30:42,760
Speaker 6: I remember I was the first one to correct him

843
00:30:42,760 --> 00:30:44,480
Speaker 6: on TV. You know what I'm saying, Like people like,

844
00:30:44,520 --> 00:30:46,560
Speaker 6: damn he corrected Roles. Yeah, because I got Jimmy Butler

845
00:30:46,640 --> 00:30:48,880
Speaker 6: right on speed y'all making stuff up. So like we

846
00:30:49,080 --> 00:30:51,000
Speaker 6: just being who we naturally are, you know what I mean.

847
00:30:51,040 --> 00:30:53,280
Speaker 6: And I think that's what kind of took over when

848
00:30:53,280 --> 00:30:55,160
Speaker 6: we was on TV and we did these shows. You know,

849
00:30:55,600 --> 00:30:57,360
Speaker 6: not too many basketball players come up here and speak

850
00:30:57,440 --> 00:30:59,080
Speaker 6: like that and were just being our naturally self. He

851
00:30:59,120 --> 00:31:01,400
Speaker 6: wasn't acting on putting know, you know, on camera, then

852
00:31:01,520 --> 00:31:03,400
Speaker 6: going out being somebody else. We the same person on

853
00:31:03,440 --> 00:31:03,960
Speaker 6: and off camera.

854
00:31:04,040 --> 00:31:05,680
Speaker 4: And I think too a big thing was you know,

855
00:31:05,960 --> 00:31:08,280
Speaker 4: Stephen A. Smith and whether you hate him or love him,

856
00:31:08,280 --> 00:31:10,320
Speaker 4: I like Stephen A. Smith and he's been instrumental in

857
00:31:10,400 --> 00:31:13,160
Speaker 4: kind of my journey. We talked often, but he was

858
00:31:13,200 --> 00:31:15,440
Speaker 4: really big on stay off the weed and used to

859
00:31:15,480 --> 00:31:17,240
Speaker 4: say that shit all the time until I called him

860
00:31:17,240 --> 00:31:19,120
Speaker 4: on it and he listened to me. You know, I

861
00:31:19,160 --> 00:31:20,880
Speaker 4: called him out on social media after I seeing it

862
00:31:20,880 --> 00:31:22,880
Speaker 4: one too many times, and then I'm on first take,

863
00:31:23,560 --> 00:31:26,200
Speaker 4: you know, at right at the docks talking about weed

864
00:31:26,240 --> 00:31:28,440
Speaker 4: on ESPN like no one had ever done that before,

865
00:31:28,560 --> 00:31:30,840
Speaker 4: no athlete had ever done that before. So I think,

866
00:31:30,880 --> 00:31:33,560
Speaker 4: to Jack's point, it's just you know, having real conversations,

867
00:31:33,600 --> 00:31:35,040
Speaker 4: and I think people are always going to respect that.

868
00:31:35,120 --> 00:31:37,120
Speaker 4: And I remember a ton of times, and you know,

869
00:31:37,160 --> 00:31:39,120
Speaker 4: I was working for a Fox and ESPN at the time,

870
00:31:39,120 --> 00:31:41,080
Speaker 4: where you know, there's certain well this is the topic,

871
00:31:41,240 --> 00:31:42,640
Speaker 4: you know, do you want to say this? I'm like, nah,

872
00:31:42,640 --> 00:31:44,360
Speaker 4: I don't want to say that. You know, I don't.

873
00:31:44,400 --> 00:31:46,120
Speaker 4: I wouldn't say that. I don't talk like that. This

874
00:31:46,160 --> 00:31:47,520
Speaker 4: is how I'm going to say it, you know what

875
00:31:47,560 --> 00:31:49,480
Speaker 4: I mean. So, I mean, obviously I enjoyed my time

876
00:31:49,520 --> 00:31:52,920
Speaker 4: at both networks, and it kept my name fresh and

877
00:31:53,200 --> 00:31:55,880
Speaker 4: it allowed other opportunities to happen. But you know, it's

878
00:31:56,200 --> 00:31:58,320
Speaker 4: it's a little different walking on that side of media

879
00:31:58,440 --> 00:31:59,840
Speaker 4: than it is on the media side.

880
00:31:59,640 --> 00:32:02,320
Speaker 8: That we on any of those networks getting it right.

881
00:32:03,200 --> 00:32:06,720
Speaker 3: I think, so I think you know production is getting

882
00:32:06,720 --> 00:32:08,400
Speaker 3: it right. Yeah, I think, you know.

883
00:32:08,480 --> 00:32:11,360
Speaker 4: I think there will always be those big engines, but

884
00:32:11,400 --> 00:32:13,040
Speaker 4: I don't necessarily think you need them anymore.

885
00:32:13,160 --> 00:32:13,720
Speaker 3: You know what I mean?

886
00:32:13,760 --> 00:32:17,200
Speaker 4: That the digital switch is on, the athlete driven content

887
00:32:17,240 --> 00:32:20,440
Speaker 4: is on, and entertainment like everyone is experts that are

888
00:32:20,480 --> 00:32:22,680
Speaker 4: now talking about it. Before there was other people always

889
00:32:22,680 --> 00:32:27,280
Speaker 4: talking about what they saw, whether it be critics and music, television, film,

890
00:32:27,800 --> 00:32:28,280
Speaker 4: or sports.

891
00:32:28,280 --> 00:32:31,480
Speaker 3: But now you actually have the people talking about it.

892
00:32:31,520 --> 00:32:33,000
Speaker 4: So again, I think there will always be the big

893
00:32:33,240 --> 00:32:35,040
Speaker 4: Espns and Foxes and all that kind of stuff, but

894
00:32:35,080 --> 00:32:37,400
Speaker 4: you don't necessarily need it anymore to get your point across,

895
00:32:37,400 --> 00:32:39,000
Speaker 4: to have a platform over to go viral.

896
00:32:39,960 --> 00:32:41,640
Speaker 2: I want to ask some basketball questions before y'all get

897
00:32:41,640 --> 00:32:43,960
Speaker 2: about of Klay Thompson. What you think about him leaving

898
00:32:43,960 --> 00:32:46,160
Speaker 2: the Warriors and you think it was time for him

899
00:32:46,200 --> 00:32:46,400
Speaker 2: to go?

900
00:32:47,000 --> 00:32:49,000
Speaker 6: I think it's a breath of fresh at for them.

901
00:32:49,040 --> 00:32:51,160
Speaker 6: I mean, some guys need that doing their career.

902
00:32:51,240 --> 00:32:51,800
Speaker 3: You know what I mean.

903
00:32:52,360 --> 00:32:55,280
Speaker 6: You've played a service bip for so long it's a

904
00:32:55,320 --> 00:32:57,200
Speaker 6: bad feeling the body, I ain't one the last couple

905
00:32:57,240 --> 00:32:59,320
Speaker 6: of years, so a lot of times they're going to

906
00:32:59,320 --> 00:33:01,120
Speaker 6: try to find some idy to blame it on. And

907
00:33:01,120 --> 00:33:03,080
Speaker 6: it fell on Clay, you know what I'm saying, which

908
00:33:03,120 --> 00:33:05,280
Speaker 6: which is unfortunate because he's the reason why they have

909
00:33:05,320 --> 00:33:07,560
Speaker 6: a big part why they have all tho championships over there.

910
00:33:07,600 --> 00:33:10,680
Speaker 6: But this is how this is how professional sports goes. Yeah,

911
00:33:10,720 --> 00:33:12,360
Speaker 6: this is how it goes. And I think it's great

912
00:33:12,360 --> 00:33:14,520
Speaker 6: for him because he's landed in the spot where he

913
00:33:14,520 --> 00:33:16,200
Speaker 6: can do what he do best with Tour the best

914
00:33:16,200 --> 00:33:18,600
Speaker 6: one on one players ever and Kyrie and Luca.

915
00:33:18,640 --> 00:33:20,080
Speaker 3: He could spot up and shoot jumpers.

916
00:33:20,080 --> 00:33:22,200
Speaker 6: So I think I think it's a great, great situation

917
00:33:22,200 --> 00:33:25,040
Speaker 6: for him because I've been in a situation where I

918
00:33:25,160 --> 00:33:27,400
Speaker 6: was somewhere and I needed to go to a different

919
00:33:27,400 --> 00:33:29,760
Speaker 6: team to be to flourish and be a better player.

920
00:33:29,600 --> 00:33:30,960
Speaker 1: When I came to Golden State, So that's kind of

921
00:33:30,960 --> 00:33:31,480
Speaker 1: the same for him.

922
00:33:32,960 --> 00:33:35,280
Speaker 6: Clay is a hooper. Hooper yeah, oh yeah, he played

923
00:33:35,280 --> 00:33:38,600
Speaker 6: on both ends. D Rose retired, Oh man, hurt my soul?

924
00:33:38,920 --> 00:33:41,800
Speaker 3: Where's the farewell tour? Where's the where's the He deserves

925
00:33:41,800 --> 00:33:43,160
Speaker 3: all that for me, you know what I'm saying. He's

926
00:33:43,200 --> 00:33:44,960
Speaker 3: one of those guys, bro I think too.

927
00:33:45,000 --> 00:33:47,080
Speaker 4: I mean, obviously as great as we saw, you know,

928
00:33:47,280 --> 00:33:50,040
Speaker 4: the injury slowed him down, but everything we're hearing from

929
00:33:50,160 --> 00:33:51,920
Speaker 4: is he as great as a player was. He's a

930
00:33:51,920 --> 00:33:54,600
Speaker 4: better person, and you know that's always something that that's

931
00:33:54,640 --> 00:33:58,000
Speaker 4: important to us. Definitely looking forward up sitting down with

932
00:33:58,080 --> 00:33:59,800
Speaker 4: him one day. But I just think his impact on

933
00:33:59,800 --> 00:34:03,440
Speaker 4: the game, how pure and and and and and real

934
00:34:03,560 --> 00:34:06,040
Speaker 4: he was, will you know, definitely be noted. But you know,

935
00:34:06,200 --> 00:34:08,439
Speaker 4: one of the greatest. I hate to say what because

936
00:34:08,440 --> 00:34:10,120
Speaker 4: obviously he gave us a lot while he was here,

937
00:34:10,320 --> 00:34:12,280
Speaker 4: was the youngest MVP of all time. But I couldn't

938
00:34:12,280 --> 00:34:15,319
Speaker 4: imagine seeing him be able to stay who he was

939
00:34:15,360 --> 00:34:17,440
Speaker 4: and get older and how much his game would have

940
00:34:17,440 --> 00:34:19,799
Speaker 4: grown and developed. I think we missed out on something

941
00:34:19,800 --> 00:34:20,360
Speaker 4: really special.

942
00:34:20,760 --> 00:34:21,960
Speaker 8: He never did gun.

943
00:34:22,480 --> 00:34:25,440
Speaker 6: Yeah, but what touches to his character that I admire,

944
00:34:26,080 --> 00:34:28,360
Speaker 6: How he got his wife and his kids mother to

945
00:34:28,520 --> 00:34:30,799
Speaker 6: get along and coparing, how they do it like they

946
00:34:30,840 --> 00:34:31,799
Speaker 6: are mascots for that.

947
00:34:31,800 --> 00:34:33,480
Speaker 3: Because they do it the right way. So salute him

948
00:34:33,480 --> 00:34:37,239
Speaker 3: for that. Who he's what is he? Hoop boy score

949
00:34:38,480 --> 00:34:41,239
Speaker 3: d Rose, good question.

950
00:34:43,160 --> 00:34:44,440
Speaker 6: The Rose a hoop. I don't see a lot of

951
00:34:44,480 --> 00:34:47,720
Speaker 6: chase down blocks. He competes on both. He's a hooping.

952
00:34:48,239 --> 00:34:50,240
Speaker 1: Who's the face of the league? When when Lebron leaves,

953
00:34:50,400 --> 00:34:50,920
Speaker 1: who's in?

954
00:34:51,040 --> 00:34:51,560
Speaker 3: And Stephan Lee?

955
00:34:51,640 --> 00:34:53,600
Speaker 1: Who's the next face of the league? God should say?

956
00:34:54,800 --> 00:34:57,520
Speaker 3: I think I think it might be by committee. I

957
00:34:57,560 --> 00:34:58,680
Speaker 3: think Anthony Edwards.

958
00:34:58,480 --> 00:35:00,920
Speaker 1: Isn't gonna be one face like Bron.

959
00:35:01,840 --> 00:35:03,480
Speaker 4: I think it'd be by committee. I think it'll be

960
00:35:03,800 --> 00:35:05,560
Speaker 4: I think it could be a little bit of Jason Tatum.

961
00:35:05,600 --> 00:35:07,080
Speaker 4: I think it could be some Luca. I think it

962
00:35:07,120 --> 00:35:08,399
Speaker 4: could be some shake gilg just.

963
00:35:08,320 --> 00:35:10,719
Speaker 8: Alexander Job if you get his mind right.

964
00:35:11,640 --> 00:35:13,560
Speaker 4: Victor women Yama, I think there's a lot of I

965
00:35:13,800 --> 00:35:15,759
Speaker 4: think the league is in a great place as far

966
00:35:15,800 --> 00:35:18,640
Speaker 4: as this young talent, you know, like we haven't seen

967
00:35:18,680 --> 00:35:21,360
Speaker 4: in a long time. But it's it's funny you said that,

968
00:35:21,440 --> 00:35:24,080
Speaker 4: because I wish people would just appreciate the journey more.

969
00:35:24,120 --> 00:35:26,279
Speaker 4: We're coming to the end of Ron and Steph and

970
00:35:26,360 --> 00:35:28,480
Speaker 4: Katie and what they've done and what they've meant for

971
00:35:28,520 --> 00:35:31,000
Speaker 4: this game, and still all the criticism and hate they

972
00:35:31,040 --> 00:35:33,240
Speaker 4: get it is just crazy. I mean, because one day

973
00:35:33,360 --> 00:35:34,800
Speaker 4: they're going to be here but they're not going to

974
00:35:34,840 --> 00:35:36,520
Speaker 4: be in the game anymore, and people can be like, damn,

975
00:35:36,600 --> 00:35:39,400
Speaker 4: I missed them, And instead they're too busy trying to

976
00:35:39,400 --> 00:35:42,560
Speaker 4: criticize and talk shit about Bronnie and Katie's this, and

977
00:35:42,560 --> 00:35:44,880
Speaker 4: Steph can't do that instead of just kind of enjoying

978
00:35:45,239 --> 00:35:47,440
Speaker 4: what they've been able to, you know, to bless the

979
00:35:47,440 --> 00:35:49,000
Speaker 4: world with WNBA.

980
00:35:49,760 --> 00:35:52,120
Speaker 1: What are your thoughts this year? What a new excitement,

981
00:35:52,280 --> 00:35:52,840
Speaker 1: new life.

982
00:35:53,800 --> 00:35:55,600
Speaker 2: Sometimes I ain't go fron it feels better than the

983
00:35:55,680 --> 00:35:57,880
Speaker 2: NBA is it's what's your thoughts on WNBA?

984
00:35:57,960 --> 00:35:58,480
Speaker 1: Can't talking?

985
00:35:59,160 --> 00:36:01,399
Speaker 3: The women's game is here, man, you know what I'm saying.

986
00:36:01,480 --> 00:36:03,160
Speaker 3: They all played the right way.

987
00:36:03,719 --> 00:36:07,279
Speaker 6: You know, it's refreshing to watch. It's good to see

988
00:36:07,320 --> 00:36:09,280
Speaker 6: them start to get their money and get the attention

989
00:36:09,360 --> 00:36:12,640
Speaker 6: that they deserve. I'm a hooper, so I'm all for

990
00:36:12,920 --> 00:36:15,759
Speaker 6: you know, anybody that's hooping, that's putting in their work,

991
00:36:16,040 --> 00:36:17,479
Speaker 6: you know what I'm saying, that's grinded all these years

992
00:36:17,480 --> 00:36:18,040
Speaker 6: to get to the top.

993
00:36:18,239 --> 00:36:19,960
Speaker 3: I'm happy that they're going to just do.

994
00:36:20,320 --> 00:36:22,120
Speaker 4: I think the growth of the game is tremendous. You

995
00:36:22,160 --> 00:36:24,040
Speaker 4: know the fact that we're talking about it and seeing

996
00:36:24,080 --> 00:36:27,160
Speaker 4: it on ESPN, and all the highlights and and and

997
00:36:27,480 --> 00:36:30,000
Speaker 4: you know, we're doing a piece that I'm excited about

998
00:36:30,040 --> 00:36:32,520
Speaker 4: on injuries and Kith and Clark and just their dynamic

999
00:36:32,640 --> 00:36:34,800
Speaker 4: that they brought to the game and and the vehicle

1000
00:36:35,000 --> 00:36:37,480
Speaker 4: of new fans they brought. And you've heard kind of

1001
00:36:37,560 --> 00:36:39,799
Speaker 4: some of the good and the bad that have come

1002
00:36:39,800 --> 00:36:41,560
Speaker 4: with that. You know, Angel spoke out on just the

1003
00:36:41,600 --> 00:36:44,120
Speaker 4: negativity and the racism that will come from some fans

1004
00:36:44,120 --> 00:36:45,160
Speaker 4: and kind of using them.

1005
00:36:45,200 --> 00:36:47,440
Speaker 2: But is that normal though, because you know, it seems

1006
00:36:47,440 --> 00:36:49,080
Speaker 2: like that's normal in the league. I'm sure that you

1007
00:36:49,120 --> 00:36:51,240
Speaker 2: guys have been called a million more names.

1008
00:36:51,280 --> 00:36:54,759
Speaker 3: Absolutely, absolutely absolutely.

1009
00:36:55,920 --> 00:37:04,080
Speaker 1: Fight Utah, Yeah, I just got in trouble and then yeah.

1010
00:37:03,920 --> 00:37:05,919
Speaker 3: That's back when you still had the space between your teeth.

1011
00:37:05,960 --> 00:37:07,560
Speaker 3: Yeah yeah, yeah, exactly. Yeah.

1012
00:37:07,600 --> 00:37:10,319
Speaker 6: I had had a cardboard cut out under the goal

1013
00:37:10,440 --> 00:37:11,480
Speaker 6: with me in a jail suit.

1014
00:37:11,640 --> 00:37:14,799
Speaker 3: Oh no, it was funny. It was a fun game.

1015
00:37:14,880 --> 00:37:17,520
Speaker 3: It was funny too. We were all laughing. Yeah.

1016
00:37:17,520 --> 00:37:18,640
Speaker 4: No, But I just I think the growth through the

1017
00:37:18,640 --> 00:37:20,520
Speaker 4: game is tremendous. I think it's going to continue to grow.

1018
00:37:20,560 --> 00:37:23,720
Speaker 4: It's got new eyeballs and new sponsorship and new money,

1019
00:37:23,760 --> 00:37:26,319
Speaker 4: and you know, we just want to continue to celebrate them.

1020
00:37:26,560 --> 00:37:29,520
Speaker 4: You know, I think it's been such a you know,

1021
00:37:29,640 --> 00:37:31,080
Speaker 4: a hit or miss with that, but just kind of

1022
00:37:31,120 --> 00:37:33,959
Speaker 4: understanding the lineage and where they are after twenty eight years.

1023
00:37:33,960 --> 00:37:36,200
Speaker 4: You know, it's arguably ahead of schedule over where the

1024
00:37:36,239 --> 00:37:38,399
Speaker 4: NBA was at year twenty eight. So again, I think

1025
00:37:38,440 --> 00:37:40,840
Speaker 4: the impact of these new young stars have brought a

1026
00:37:40,840 --> 00:37:43,040
Speaker 4: lot more eyeballs and attention. I hope they continue to

1027
00:37:43,040 --> 00:37:45,720
Speaker 4: carry it. You know, you got Juju coming down the pipeline.

1028
00:37:45,719 --> 00:37:49,360
Speaker 4: Who's a monster, so Paige, Yeah, So I think that

1029
00:37:49,440 --> 00:37:51,600
Speaker 4: league is going to continue to grow and flourish and

1030
00:37:51,600 --> 00:37:53,440
Speaker 4: and give something a lot of little girls, you know,

1031
00:37:53,480 --> 00:37:54,600
Speaker 4: something to look up to. You got to see it

1032
00:37:54,600 --> 00:37:55,840
Speaker 4: to believe it, you know what I mean. So you

1033
00:37:55,880 --> 00:37:59,319
Speaker 4: see that, you see Kamala wonderful presidency. I mean, you know,

1034
00:37:59,400 --> 00:38:02,120
Speaker 4: young girls, you know, it's a great time to look

1035
00:38:02,239 --> 00:38:04,400
Speaker 4: up and see all the greatness ahead of them.

1036
00:38:04,920 --> 00:38:06,840
Speaker 8: Can Joab bounce back, y'all had a great all the

1037
00:38:06,880 --> 00:38:07,319
Speaker 8: smoke with.

1038
00:38:07,320 --> 00:38:09,919
Speaker 3: Job morel Yeah, of course he can.

1039
00:38:10,120 --> 00:38:12,200
Speaker 6: I mean that that was the whole thing when when

1040
00:38:12,239 --> 00:38:13,880
Speaker 6: when it happened, I was saying, like people like you

1041
00:38:13,920 --> 00:38:17,320
Speaker 6: can't make mistakes, you know what I'm saying, like it happens.

1042
00:38:17,400 --> 00:38:19,600
Speaker 6: Everybody makes mistakes, they just don't make him on a

1043
00:38:20,080 --> 00:38:21,319
Speaker 6: level for everybody to see.

1044
00:38:21,760 --> 00:38:24,120
Speaker 3: So he definitely could bounce back, and I think he will.

1045
00:38:24,160 --> 00:38:26,640
Speaker 6: You know, I just think it's gonna take him to

1046
00:38:26,760 --> 00:38:30,280
Speaker 6: make some decisions too about the people he's around, because

1047
00:38:30,320 --> 00:38:32,000
Speaker 6: I've made the same mistake too that I'm saying. We

1048
00:38:32,040 --> 00:38:33,880
Speaker 6: make those mistakes because you know, we feel you know,

1049
00:38:34,000 --> 00:38:35,319
Speaker 6: we got to keep it real and all that at

1050
00:38:35,320 --> 00:38:36,919
Speaker 6: one point, but you got to get to the point

1051
00:38:36,920 --> 00:38:38,680
Speaker 6: where you're keeping it right, you know what I'm saying.

1052
00:38:38,719 --> 00:38:39,839
Speaker 3: I think I think he's there now.

1053
00:38:39,920 --> 00:38:41,719
Speaker 8: They don't let kids funk up no more like y'all

1054
00:38:41,760 --> 00:38:42,279
Speaker 8: wouldn't be one.

1055
00:38:45,080 --> 00:38:45,799
Speaker 3: Well, I just think too.

1056
00:38:45,800 --> 00:38:47,879
Speaker 4: You gotta think when we were sucking up coming up,

1057
00:38:47,960 --> 00:38:50,200
Speaker 4: there wasn't cameras on us constant we could suck up.

1058
00:38:50,239 --> 00:38:52,200
Speaker 4: I remember the stuff I was doing in UCLA probably

1059
00:38:52,200 --> 00:38:54,160
Speaker 4: would have never made the NBA if I had cameras

1060
00:38:54,280 --> 00:38:56,120
Speaker 4: in my face. And then you know, the early days

1061
00:38:56,120 --> 00:38:58,200
Speaker 4: in Golden State, we were out every single night, drinking

1062
00:38:58,239 --> 00:39:00,680
Speaker 4: and smoking in every single city and fighting and doing

1063
00:39:00,719 --> 00:39:03,200
Speaker 4: god knows what. There was no cameras, you know what

1064
00:39:03,239 --> 00:39:04,520
Speaker 4: I mean. So as long as you could show up

1065
00:39:04,520 --> 00:39:06,320
Speaker 4: and play the game the next day, there wasn't an issue.

1066
00:39:06,320 --> 00:39:09,719
Speaker 4: But now everywhere you move, whether you're filming yourself or

1067
00:39:09,760 --> 00:39:11,920
Speaker 4: other people are filming you, there's cameras on you.

1068
00:39:11,920 --> 00:39:13,359
Speaker 3: So you just got to be cognizant of that.

1069
00:39:13,360 --> 00:39:14,520
Speaker 8: That's funny because you would hear that.

1070
00:39:14,600 --> 00:39:16,680
Speaker 5: You'd hear like, let you be like man, Matt Bums,

1071
00:39:16,719 --> 00:39:19,880
Speaker 5: be fucking people up you like Matt Bones, like Matt Box.

1072
00:39:22,680 --> 00:39:27,200
Speaker 3: I don't know what I'm saying. We used to get

1073
00:39:27,239 --> 00:39:28,719
Speaker 3: down a little bit. That was it back in my

1074
00:39:28,800 --> 00:39:29,680
Speaker 3: early days.

1075
00:39:30,840 --> 00:39:32,560
Speaker 1: Well, we appreciate you guys for joining us.

1076
00:39:32,560 --> 00:39:36,200
Speaker 7: Man another one I did, but I forgot it. Oh oh,

1077
00:39:37,160 --> 00:39:39,360
Speaker 7: we were talking about John. What's the biggest thing that

1078
00:39:39,400 --> 00:39:41,080
Speaker 7: you repeat all the time to the young players when

1079
00:39:41,080 --> 00:39:43,120
Speaker 7: they call y'all for like real life advice.

1080
00:39:42,840 --> 00:39:46,200
Speaker 1: Like me now is control your control your own narrative.

1081
00:39:46,480 --> 00:39:47,759
Speaker 3: That's my thing. You know what I'm saying.

1082
00:39:47,760 --> 00:39:51,040
Speaker 6: Because during your career, they can post certain things on

1083
00:39:51,120 --> 00:39:53,879
Speaker 6: TV and then a lot of times the media for.

1084
00:39:53,840 --> 00:39:55,000
Speaker 3: The team would tell you not to reply.

1085
00:39:55,040 --> 00:39:57,200
Speaker 6: I'll not give you the platform to reply to get

1086
00:39:57,400 --> 00:39:59,560
Speaker 6: to get what they're saying about you. Correct, right, So

1087
00:39:59,640 --> 00:40:01,600
Speaker 6: now they're in a position where they have their phones,

1088
00:40:01,600 --> 00:40:03,600
Speaker 6: they have their social media. Use the right way and

1089
00:40:03,640 --> 00:40:05,839
Speaker 6: control your own narrative. Whatever the media try to say

1090
00:40:05,840 --> 00:40:08,000
Speaker 6: something about you, I try to say you said something

1091
00:40:08,280 --> 00:40:10,200
Speaker 6: to the team or councilor something. You can clear it

1092
00:40:10,239 --> 00:40:12,239
Speaker 6: all up on your page, your own social media so

1093
00:40:12,239 --> 00:40:13,439
Speaker 6: they can hear from the hass's mouth.

1094
00:40:13,520 --> 00:40:15,680
Speaker 4: So control your own rat I think that's important too.

1095
00:40:15,680 --> 00:40:17,080
Speaker 4: And then I got fifteen year old sons that are

1096
00:40:17,080 --> 00:40:19,040
Speaker 4: coming down the pipeline, and just for these young players

1097
00:40:19,040 --> 00:40:21,560
Speaker 4: to understand that their brand's already, like you are a

1098
00:40:21,600 --> 00:40:24,799
Speaker 4: walking brand as you speak. And to refer back to

1099
00:40:24,840 --> 00:40:27,359
Speaker 4: the young ladies Caitlyn Clark and Angel Reese, they had

1100
00:40:27,400 --> 00:40:30,680
Speaker 4: bigger brands arguably than what the WNBA was at the

1101
00:40:30,719 --> 00:40:32,120
Speaker 4: time they came into it, you know what I mean.

1102
00:40:32,120 --> 00:40:34,479
Speaker 4: So I understand your brand power. And then what Jason,

1103
00:40:34,520 --> 00:40:36,800
Speaker 4: I'm not a businessman, I'm a business like understand that

1104
00:40:36,840 --> 00:40:39,480
Speaker 4: you're really a business everywhere you move and you have

1105
00:40:39,520 --> 00:40:41,400
Speaker 4: to just you just have to. Unfortunate, like you said,

1106
00:40:42,040 --> 00:40:44,480
Speaker 4: there's no room to fuck up because there's so many

1107
00:40:44,480 --> 00:40:47,480
Speaker 4: cameras on you. So just understand every movie's make and

1108
00:40:47,560 --> 00:40:49,680
Speaker 4: everything you say can affect your brand.

1109
00:40:50,040 --> 00:40:52,759
Speaker 7: There was a speaking of your kids. You talk all

1110
00:40:52,760 --> 00:40:54,680
Speaker 7: about your kid There was a video last year in

1111
00:40:54,719 --> 00:40:57,440
Speaker 7: November that went viral of you and Derek Fisher coaching

1112
00:40:57,440 --> 00:41:00,480
Speaker 7: the Twins together. That was a really it was like

1113
00:41:00,520 --> 00:41:06,600
Speaker 7: I think the world was like, oh wow, the world.

1114
00:41:03,120 --> 00:41:03,600
Speaker 1: Yeah.

1115
00:41:07,200 --> 00:41:12,360
Speaker 7: I was I remember twenty before that, right, what was

1116
00:41:12,400 --> 00:41:14,040
Speaker 7: it like getting to that point where now were on

1117
00:41:14,040 --> 00:41:15,520
Speaker 7: the court. It's important to do it.

1118
00:41:15,440 --> 00:41:16,480
Speaker 3: But what was standing?

1119
00:41:16,520 --> 00:41:18,920
Speaker 4: Me and Fish squashed that ship the summer after it

1120
00:41:18,960 --> 00:41:21,720
Speaker 4: happened like that shit happened at the beginning of one season,

1121
00:41:21,719 --> 00:41:23,719
Speaker 4: and then the next summer once I found out that

1122
00:41:23,719 --> 00:41:25,440
Speaker 4: he was around, and then twins cared about him, Like

1123
00:41:25,480 --> 00:41:27,440
Speaker 4: we squashed it because it wasn't about my ex and

1124
00:41:27,520 --> 00:41:29,120
Speaker 4: nine no more. It was about trying to raise these

1125
00:41:29,160 --> 00:41:31,000
Speaker 4: young men. So Fish has been in the boys life

1126
00:41:31,000 --> 00:41:33,399
Speaker 4: for almost half their life, you know what I mean.

1127
00:41:33,480 --> 00:41:35,560
Speaker 4: So we've always been and I was real enough to

1128
00:41:35,600 --> 00:41:37,359
Speaker 4: sit down and have a conversation with him, like, bro,

1129
00:41:37,400 --> 00:41:39,080
Speaker 4: I'm still playing, so you're going to see my kids

1130
00:41:39,120 --> 00:41:40,480
Speaker 4: more than me. I need you to teach them the

1131
00:41:40,560 --> 00:41:43,200
Speaker 4: ropes while I'm not around. So to me, you know,

1132
00:41:43,239 --> 00:41:45,879
Speaker 4: once I got over and once we talked about how

1133
00:41:45,920 --> 00:41:47,239
Speaker 4: I didn't agree with the move and it could have

1134
00:41:47,239 --> 00:41:49,880
Speaker 4: went a different way, Like it wasn't about saving that,

1135
00:41:49,960 --> 00:41:52,719
Speaker 4: it was about harvesting, and we got to raise two

1136
00:41:52,800 --> 00:41:54,480
Speaker 4: young black men. So I mean, I think he's done

1137
00:41:54,520 --> 00:41:55,839
Speaker 4: a great job. I tiped my hat to him all

1138
00:41:55,880 --> 00:41:57,880
Speaker 4: the time. I mean, he's he's their second dad, and

1139
00:41:57,920 --> 00:41:59,440
Speaker 4: he you know, I coached him in the summer during

1140
00:41:59,480 --> 00:42:01,920
Speaker 4: au and he coaches them during high school. So I

1141
00:42:01,920 --> 00:42:03,879
Speaker 4: mean when people see us, they still kind of trip out.

1142
00:42:03,880 --> 00:42:07,080
Speaker 4: But like we are. Our beef was for a season

1143
00:42:08,440 --> 00:42:08,799
Speaker 4: that long.

1144
00:42:10,160 --> 00:42:15,600
Speaker 5: It's easy to squash beef when you win the fight.

1145
00:42:21,960 --> 00:42:23,160
Speaker 8: Jack, We appreciate y'all.

1146
00:42:23,320 --> 00:42:27,040
Speaker 3: Y'all got some SHOWLDS show today, yep, yeah, well yeah

1147
00:42:27,080 --> 00:42:28,359
Speaker 3: wherever this drops, Yeah to uh.

1148
00:42:28,560 --> 00:42:32,319
Speaker 8: Uh Philly, So Philly, Philly Night Night.

1149
00:42:32,400 --> 00:42:34,400
Speaker 4: So tonight is tonight in New York the seventh in

1150
00:42:34,440 --> 00:42:36,720
Speaker 4: New York tonight, so they may miss it, but tonight

1151
00:42:36,719 --> 00:42:39,160
Speaker 4: in New York, if you're around Gramercy Theater, we got Larry,

1152
00:42:39,200 --> 00:42:41,919
Speaker 4: the one and Only Larry Johnson, my mom, And then

1153
00:42:42,480 --> 00:42:46,200
Speaker 4: yeah in Philly, we're Wednesday Night with with a million

1154
00:42:46,200 --> 00:42:48,400
Speaker 4: dollars worth of game and and a really special guest

1155
00:42:48,560 --> 00:42:49,399
Speaker 4: coming through with them.

1156
00:42:49,400 --> 00:42:50,640
Speaker 3: Man, so where it works outed to be.

1157
00:42:50,600 --> 00:42:53,160
Speaker 6: Honest, Jones, Davies, all them said they was pulling up,

1158
00:42:53,200 --> 00:42:54,080
Speaker 6: so I'm looking to see you.

1159
00:42:54,800 --> 00:42:55,880
Speaker 7: Is it gonna be a I and Philly.

1160
00:42:57,200 --> 00:42:59,880
Speaker 6: You know we're gonna.

1161
00:42:59,640 --> 00:43:04,320
Speaker 4: See what I saw Paul George, So Paul he couldn't

1162
00:43:04,320 --> 00:43:09,160
Speaker 4: come because yeah, we scrammed with Yeah, we're gonna As

1163
00:43:09,200 --> 00:43:11,400
Speaker 4: long as we get him up on the airplane.

1164
00:43:11,000 --> 00:43:11,440
Speaker 3: He'll be here.

1165
00:43:13,400 --> 00:43:18,799
Speaker 8: Favorite is probably my favorite, and.

1166
00:43:18,760 --> 00:43:21,319
Speaker 4: He's different and for him to like, I don't think

1167
00:43:21,320 --> 00:43:24,000
Speaker 4: people understand how passionate, how much he loves life and

1168
00:43:24,040 --> 00:43:25,839
Speaker 4: how much he loves people, you know what I mean.

1169
00:43:25,840 --> 00:43:27,480
Speaker 4: And we try to tell him all the time, bro,

1170
00:43:27,560 --> 00:43:29,719
Speaker 4: like you gotta talk like people love you to death

1171
00:43:29,760 --> 00:43:31,319
Speaker 4: and they just want to know how you are. They

1172
00:43:31,360 --> 00:43:34,040
Speaker 4: want to know what you think. And so we're slowly

1173
00:43:34,080 --> 00:43:37,000
Speaker 4: getting them to hopefully sitting down and having his own

1174
00:43:37,040 --> 00:43:38,480
Speaker 4: thing one day.

1175
00:43:39,360 --> 00:43:41,120
Speaker 8: Yeah cool, Yeah, Yeah.

1176
00:43:41,760 --> 00:43:44,960
Speaker 6: I played with were so you know, I'm just one

1177
00:43:45,040 --> 00:43:47,399
Speaker 6: of those guys, like every time I played against Chuck

1178
00:43:48,719 --> 00:43:50,279
Speaker 6: when he gets to the city, when his boys are

1179
00:43:50,320 --> 00:43:51,680
Speaker 6: called me and I end up in the club with.

1180
00:43:51,719 --> 00:43:52,319
Speaker 3: Him hanging out.

1181
00:43:52,480 --> 00:43:54,200
Speaker 6: You know what I'm saying, from city to city, and

1182
00:43:54,560 --> 00:43:57,520
Speaker 6: he lost a friend named Jamal a couple of years ago,

1183
00:43:58,000 --> 00:44:00,400
Speaker 6: and that past counseling me and it was real. And

1184
00:44:00,480 --> 00:44:02,719
Speaker 6: during that time, you know, I stepped in, you know

1185
00:44:02,760 --> 00:44:04,399
Speaker 6: what I'm saying, and tried to help him out a lot.

1186
00:44:04,480 --> 00:44:07,160
Speaker 6: So we just became brothers doing the playing time.

1187
00:44:07,280 --> 00:44:08,960
Speaker 4: That was with him early in my big brother. You know,

1188
00:44:09,000 --> 00:44:10,919
Speaker 4: I got traded with Chris Webber off to Philly early

1189
00:44:10,960 --> 00:44:13,640
Speaker 4: in my early two thousands, and Chuck gave me a

1190
00:44:13,640 --> 00:44:15,759
Speaker 4: car wrote off the whip or off the rip and

1191
00:44:15,800 --> 00:44:17,239
Speaker 4: told me if I needed so it was just like

1192
00:44:17,280 --> 00:44:19,319
Speaker 4: this is Alan and I ever sent. Just give you

1193
00:44:19,320 --> 00:44:21,680
Speaker 4: a car to drive around because I got it. It

1194
00:44:21,719 --> 00:44:23,520
Speaker 4: was like one of the Mustangs when the Mustangs first

1195
00:44:23,520 --> 00:44:25,520
Speaker 4: came out, the Tudor Mustangs. He'd let me push that

1196
00:44:25,560 --> 00:44:27,440
Speaker 4: thing for a couple of months. Just whatever you need, bro,

1197
00:44:27,520 --> 00:44:28,000
Speaker 4: just let me know.

1198
00:44:28,040 --> 00:44:30,600
Speaker 1: I'm just like damn had the Applebee's popping right man.

1199
00:44:31,840 --> 00:44:34,840
Speaker 4: Fridayriday used to really be popping bros. We used to

1200
00:44:34,920 --> 00:44:36,560
Speaker 4: get off the plane at two thirty in the morning.

1201
00:44:36,600 --> 00:44:37,960
Speaker 4: I wasn't playing, so I didn't give a fuck. But

1202
00:44:37,960 --> 00:44:39,560
Speaker 4: he would have limos for us to go to Atlantic

1203
00:44:39,560 --> 00:44:41,520
Speaker 4: city and go chill all night, you know what I mean,

1204
00:44:41,600 --> 00:44:44,640
Speaker 4: have the penthouse, the lowids A thirteen, Like, how the fuck.

1205
00:44:44,520 --> 00:44:45,080
Speaker 3: Is all this free?

1206
00:44:45,120 --> 00:44:46,759
Speaker 4: I learned later that you had to give a little

1207
00:44:46,760 --> 00:44:49,120
Speaker 4: bit of money to the casino to get all that for,

1208
00:44:49,360 --> 00:44:51,320
Speaker 4: you know, But Chuck was he was just one of

1209
00:44:51,360 --> 00:44:53,880
Speaker 4: them rare dudes like you said that that enjoyed life

1210
00:44:53,880 --> 00:44:56,719
Speaker 4: and then gave it his absolute all on that court.

1211
00:44:56,719 --> 00:44:58,840
Speaker 4: If people would see how he used to walk around

1212
00:44:59,360 --> 00:45:02,239
Speaker 4: on off days durn practice with big old elbows and

1213
00:45:02,320 --> 00:45:04,400
Speaker 4: hips are bruised up. And then as soon as it

1214
00:45:04,520 --> 00:45:07,000
Speaker 4: you know, that popcorn starts popping about six six thirty,

1215
00:45:07,400 --> 00:45:09,680
Speaker 4: a different light turns on and he becomes an animal man.

1216
00:45:09,680 --> 00:45:11,560
Speaker 3: So it was just hard too. He do hard.

1217
00:45:11,600 --> 00:45:14,160
Speaker 6: That's what people don't understand. You don't get people that caliber,

1218
00:45:14,400 --> 00:45:17,400
Speaker 6: that loves everybody in that genuine way. That's why that's

1219
00:45:17,440 --> 00:45:19,239
Speaker 6: why it's kind of weird to people. Yeah, that's right,

1220
00:45:19,360 --> 00:45:20,239
Speaker 6: salute the bubble check.

1221
00:45:20,640 --> 00:45:23,719
Speaker 5: That conversation is into all the Smoke Coffee table book,

1222
00:45:23,719 --> 00:45:25,800
Speaker 5: which is out right now, all the stars, all the stories,

1223
00:45:25,880 --> 00:45:27,120
Speaker 5: no apologies, go get it.

1224
00:45:27,280 --> 00:45:30,040
Speaker 1: That's right. It's the breakfast Club, Good morning, Wake.

1225
00:45:29,840 --> 00:45:32,760
Speaker 3: That ass up. In the morning, the Breakfast Club