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Speaker 5: What are you doing live on a Monday morning? Eleven

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Speaker 5: am Eastern Time? Wherever you are in the world, we

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Speaker 5: appreciate you being with us live on a Monday. It's

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Speaker 5: June sixteenth, twenty twenty five. Now it's June twenty third. Actually,

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Speaker 5: my headliner in my script is wrong. It really is

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Speaker 5: June twenty third. I should know. It's my son's birthday.

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Speaker 5: He's seventeen. Hey, hey, nice, happy birthday.

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Speaker 2: Hunter. We'll see how wow, how you're doing when you're eight.

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Speaker 5: A lot of work to do this year for the

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Speaker 5: Isn't the greatest draw in the world?

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Speaker 2: Back right? Not ideal? Monday, June twenty third, twenty twenty five.

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Speaker 5: It is episode five fifty six of the Anticonmploring podcast,

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Speaker 5: presented by DraftKings, DraftKings.

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Speaker 2: The crown is yours. Oh my gosh, do we have

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Speaker 2: a lot to get to today?

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Speaker 5: What have you been doing? Mixed martial arts fans? Everyone

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Speaker 5: has thoughts on John Jones's retirement, what it means for

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Speaker 5: Tommy aspinall and everybody else. We'll get those from Kenhel.

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Speaker 5: Ray Long goes in Italy, as I understand it, some

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Speaker 5: travel issues out of Azerbaijan, so we're thankful that Ray

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Speaker 5: is somewhere safe. I don't know if he has a

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Speaker 5: vacation planned or what his deal is. I don't ask

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Speaker 5: a lot of questions. We will ask those of Ray.

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Speaker 5: His guy stole the show and Bakou by the way,

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Speaker 5: Nazim Satikov, my goodness, and actually nas world is yours.

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Speaker 5: He will join us live well done today on the

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Speaker 5: Anakim Florian podcast and then we'll transition all hands on

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Speaker 5: deck UFC three seventeen speaking a witch can flow. And

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Speaker 5: I know this isn't necessarily your routine. Do you have

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Speaker 5: any practical shooting drills later today or no?

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Speaker 6: I already bang those out, dude. I banged those out

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Speaker 5: All right, outstanding, Well, it's a good thing, because it's

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Speaker 5: time for the Quervo. First shot of the fight weekend

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Speaker 5: seventeen to Putia versus ola Era, all the Chanre Pantosa

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Speaker 5: versus Caicata France. And I got my Quervo in my

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Speaker 5: of the beautiful shotglass as were killing one UFC three seventeen.

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Speaker 5: Of course you did, of course, all right, cheers to

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Speaker 5: the first shot of the weekend presented by Let's go

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Speaker 5: almost coffee Chaser, but I didn't. Almost went coffee Chaser,

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Speaker 5: but I didn't. So UFC three seventeen can flow quickly

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Speaker 5: before we dive into all of the John Jones, Tom

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Speaker 5: aspinall stuff. Iliotoporia and al Chandre Pantosia are the two

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Speaker 5: fighters that are favored, perhaps prohibitably, to get the job

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Speaker 5: done this weekend to Poti against Charles Olavera, Alechandre Pantoja

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Speaker 5: against Kykatta front. Your prediction is coming up about ninety

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Speaker 5: minutes from now live. But some tree top thoughts about

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Speaker 5: UFC three three seventeen off the top of the show,

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Speaker 6: Yeah, these are two dominant fighters who go about their

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Speaker 6: absolutely world class in every way. The way he's been

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Speaker 6: integrating his striking into his takedown game, which is critical

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Speaker 5: So a lot of the show on the back end

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Speaker 5: It was a split decision lost to Henry Shudo and

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Speaker 5: when you're chasing at John Jones, there isn't nothing you

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Speaker 5: Later on today you'll get predictions from Ken Flow, Eliot

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Speaker 5: Topulia Versus Charles Olivera, Pantosia, Chai Contiferance, the rest of

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Speaker 5: I've buried the lee long enough. Headlines is brought to

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Speaker 5: you by Quervo. Now is a good time to enjoy

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Speaker 5: the tequila that invented tequila. One of the greatest mixed

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Speaker 5: martial arts athletes of all time, John Jones, has called

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Speaker 5: it a career Ken Flow. Dana White suggestively has said

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Speaker 6: You know, if we are to believe that this fight

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Speaker 5: The masses want truthfulness, right, and John Jones is off criticized,

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Speaker 5: But masses deserve and want truthfulness right, And perhaps John

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Speaker 6: I think that John Jones has always kind of struggled

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Speaker 6: But because you are blessed with so much talent, sometimes

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Speaker 6: And I think that for John Jones, having that time

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Speaker 6: That was kind of the signs where I kind of

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Speaker 2: That hunger, you need that time in the gym.

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Speaker 2: Hunger games, right, Did he have the hunger right?

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Speaker 5: And what type of training camp preceded the seedle Goan fight?

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Speaker 5: I don't want to risk my legacy. Perfect.

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Speaker 5: So we'll get to the Aspinall stuff. To be sure

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Speaker 6: Fight absolutely, And this is a fight that was huge,

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Speaker 5: So, in terms of John Jones's legacy, right, anytime I

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Speaker 5: clean like George Saint Pierre. Right, there was a transgression

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Speaker 5: that George Saint Pierre's didn't necessarily possess. I mean, both

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Speaker 5: It's not as though John never relied upon the judges.

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Speaker 5: But how do you sort of acknowledge John Jones's legacy

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Speaker 6: Yeah, So I think there's two things. I think there's

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Speaker 6: but what John Jones did do was beat everybody in

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Speaker 2: He could do it all.

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Speaker 6: But yeah, I think John Jones, based on what he's

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Speaker 5: So the question Beckins, and only John Jones can answer it. Why,

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Speaker 2: And did you become not about it? Right?

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Speaker 5: And certainly the way this all went down, I don't

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Speaker 5: I don't know that John Jones much gives a shit

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Speaker 5: But yeah, well, at some point maybe we'll get something

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Speaker 6: Yeah, for those that are constantly looking for fighters to

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Speaker 6: So I don't know, it's tough, but you know, John

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Speaker 2: Well, congrats to John Jones on a miraculous career.

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Speaker 5: Congratulations to Tom Aspinall on being promoted rightfully, So to

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Speaker 6: As of right now, that's kind of the guy that

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Speaker 5: Yeah, I guess you just never know in the fight game.

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Speaker 5: But I believe his rights are somebody else's in. Dana

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Speaker 5: But it's gonna be interesting. In terms of a calendar

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Speaker 5: Him out for November in Abu Dhabi or excuse me, November

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Speaker 5: at Madison Square Garden? Would they do late October and

435
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Speaker 5: Abu Dhabi? I think you do tom aspinallsieedle Gone as

436
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Speaker 5: soon as humanly possible. Maybe do it October fourth in

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Speaker 5: Las Vegas. I don't know ken flow otherwise maybe it's

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Speaker 5: Madison Square Garden. But uh, I believe that will be

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Speaker 5: the fight, and yeah, we'll see.

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Speaker 2: All right. Last thing, I'm not.

441
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Speaker 5: Really going to give you a quarter of a bitcoin, right,

442
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Speaker 5: so this is hypothetical. Come on for a quarter of

443
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Speaker 5: a bitcoin. Does John Bones Jones ride again? Does he

444
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Speaker 5: come back to fight for you know, ten fifteen whatever

445
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Speaker 5: fucking million in I two three years time?

446
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Speaker 2: I think he will.

447
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Speaker 6: I think I think it might be short a shorter

448
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Speaker 6: time for if he's going to come back, he's.

449
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Speaker 2: Got to come back within a year or two.

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Speaker 6: He can't be longer than that based on his age

451
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Speaker 6: in my opinion, if he wants to increase his chance

452
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Speaker 6: of winning and stuff.

453
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Speaker 2: But I think we will.

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Speaker 6: A guy with that mentality being away from the sport,

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Speaker 6: I almost think it's a danger to John Jones in

456
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Speaker 6: a lot of ways, and he's gonna need to kind

457
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Speaker 6: of be in there and kind of get that discipline back.

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Speaker 2: So yeah, yeah, I'm with you. You better pay up, bro.

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Speaker 2: Well let's see what I can do.

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Speaker 5: It's gonna be interesting, though, to see how he spends

461
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Speaker 5: his recreational time, to be sure, because you know, there's

462
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Speaker 5: a lot of it to fill.

463
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Speaker 2: I would think.

464
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Speaker 5: I mean, he pro created a lot, so he has

465
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Speaker 5: some kids, you know, a dirty boxing and connection.

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Speaker 2: We'll see how involved he is there.

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Speaker 5: I don't know if he has any desired to corner

468
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469
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471
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Speaker 2: And I don't know how much money Michael Bisping has made.

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Speaker 5: He just came out of a movie in which he

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Speaker 5: Kenflow feels like we should lead with the fight of

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Speaker 5: in thirty four minutes. Khalil Rountree Kenny gets it done

518
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Speaker 5: by unanimous decision in the main event over Jamal Hill

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Speaker 5: fifty forty five times two dissenting judge had at forty

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Speaker 5: nine forty six. Jamal Hill was tough fighting through those

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Speaker 5: leg kicks, but Khalil Rowntree Junior had a game plan.

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Speaker 2: He did exactly what you said he would do.

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Speaker 5: You put your entire stack on Khalil Rowntree Junior in

524
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Speaker 5: our betting segment and he delivered.

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Speaker 2: What were your thoughts on the main event?

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Speaker 6: Yeah, I was pretty convicted just based on the difference

527
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Speaker 6: at footwork and Khalil Rountree's ability to chop those legs

528
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Speaker 6: down and Hill one hundred percent showed insane toughness.

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Speaker 2: I mean he was limping in round two really.

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Speaker 6: Really badly, to the point where you thought one or

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Speaker 6: two more kicks and he'd be out of there. But no,

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Speaker 6: Hill was determined to try to get the winner by

533
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Speaker 6: any means necessary.

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Speaker 2: Wasn't able to get it done.

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Speaker 6: Landed some good shots throughout the process, but Roundtree just

536
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Speaker 6: more versatile with his offense, with his footwork, with his

537
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Speaker 6: ability to just mix things up and keep Hill guessing,

538
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Speaker 6: and he was just punishing with those leg kicks. If

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00:27:00,720 --> 00:27:03,119
Speaker 6: you don't have a good base of what to work form,

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00:27:03,160 --> 00:27:05,919
Speaker 6: meaning if your legs are compromised in some ways, if

541
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Speaker 6: you don't have a great stance, you can't create the

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Speaker 6: power that you want and you can't cut off the

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Speaker 6: cage or move out of the way the way that

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Speaker 6: you want. And once Roundtree compromise those legs really round one,

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Speaker 6: round two, Hill was in a whole lot of trouble.

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Speaker 6: But kudos to Jamal Hill for showing that unbelievable toughness

547
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Speaker 6: throughout that fight.

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Speaker 5: So some fighters believe that it is their responsibility to

549
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Speaker 5: entertain the masses, but I think when it comes to

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Speaker 5: the elite levels, and a title eliminator like this, standing

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Speaker 5: on the napkin in the center of the octagon with

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Speaker 5: an athlete as powerful as Jamal Hill makes no sense competitively, financially,

553
00:27:47,359 --> 00:27:51,520
Speaker 5: career wise, right, I mean it'd be like me, you know,

554
00:27:53,520 --> 00:27:57,000
Speaker 5: doing something you know, like Brazilian jiu jitsu, right, you

555
00:27:57,040 --> 00:27:59,440
Speaker 5: know what I mean, or like swallowing razor blades, you

556
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Speaker 5: know what I mean. It just it's counterintuitive to the

557
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Speaker 5: end goal, which is the world championship. And yet you

558
00:28:05,280 --> 00:28:06,960
Speaker 5: know there there ends up just being a lot of

559
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Speaker 5: criticism on athlete to go out and dominate a former

560
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Speaker 5: world champion. So what do you have for us on

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Speaker 5: sort of the entertainment component and some of the criticism

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Speaker 5: being levied at this main event.

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Speaker 6: No, it's a great point, and I think that's that's

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Speaker 6: what the two fighters were talking about after the fight,

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Speaker 6: you know. I think Hill said some to the effect of, Hey,

566
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Speaker 6: I thought you were gonna come in here and really

567
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Speaker 6: try to fight me, and YadA, YadA, YadA, and and

568
00:28:27,920 --> 00:28:30,080
Speaker 6: Roundtree had to do what he what he needed to

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Speaker 6: do to get the w first and foremost. Now, first

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Speaker 6: of all, I don't think it was a boring fight.

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Speaker 6: I thought it was a technical fight. I thought he

572
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Speaker 6: was very strategic, but I don't think it got close

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Speaker 6: to the level of boring in my opinion. Maybe not

574
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Speaker 6: the most exciting fight, but I thought there were some

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Speaker 6: great moments from both guys. By the way, and Jamal

576
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Speaker 6: Hill is way too dangerous for you to stand in

577
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Speaker 6: front of him. That was gonna be Hill's best chance

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Speaker 6: to win the fight. And even with the approach that

579
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Speaker 6: Roundtree took, he still landed some really big shots on

580
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Speaker 6: Khalil that would have rocked a heck of a lot

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Speaker 6: of people out.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, so round Tree's got a chin, He's durable.

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Speaker 6: Hill still very dangerous, still very precise, and because of

584
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Speaker 6: that lack of footwork, that's what he wanted.

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Speaker 2: He wanted Roundtree to be in front of him.

586
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Speaker 6: But Roundtree's best chance of winning that fight was to

587
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Speaker 6: kind of stay on his bike.

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Speaker 2: So what are your thoughts on Jamal Hill now moving forward?

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Speaker 5: I do think getting more experience is good, right, He

590
00:29:25,240 --> 00:29:27,959
Speaker 5: did come off Dana White's Contender series, right, and then

591
00:29:28,000 --> 00:29:30,520
Speaker 5: there was the achilles injury after he won the belt.

592
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Speaker 5: So I do think a crewing experience like this in

593
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Speaker 5: twenty five minutes, experience and fighting through that type of adversity.

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Speaker 5: It was interesting they weren't ice in the leg. But

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Speaker 5: I think fighters have different approaches on that. But what

596
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Speaker 5: do you have for us on Jamal Hill moving forward?

597
00:29:44,360 --> 00:29:47,680
Speaker 5: Because you can't say I'm realized potentially he's got a

598
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Speaker 5: fucking undisputed UFC Light Heavyweight Championship belt at home. But

599
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Speaker 5: I do think that relative to some people's expectations, you know,

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Speaker 5: this is a setback against a guy who for a

601
00:29:57,960 --> 00:29:59,840
Speaker 5: while was sort of middling in the UFC.

602
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Speaker 2: Yeah, and John I would say this, it's blessing.

603
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Speaker 6: And a curse to win the belt at certain stages

604
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Speaker 6: of your career. And I think that that's why if

605
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Speaker 6: you find some success early in the UFC, it can

606
00:30:12,800 --> 00:30:15,960
Speaker 6: give you a tough time moving forward because now people

607
00:30:16,040 --> 00:30:18,560
Speaker 6: expect a whole lot of out of you, and the

608
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Speaker 6: UFC is going to try to match you against other

609
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Speaker 6: great fighters. And I think at this point, because Jamal

610
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Speaker 6: I think should really develop his footwork and maybe some

611
00:30:26,400 --> 00:30:29,080
Speaker 6: other aspects to his game, I think he needs a

612
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Speaker 6: reboot here. I think he needs to kind of get

613
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Speaker 6: away from just fighting the true elite in the division, rebuild,

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Speaker 6: get some fights where he can work on his skills

615
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Speaker 6: and then kind of climb up the hill a little

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Speaker 6: bit slowly, you know, maybe an unusual approach, but I

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Speaker 6: think in this stage, if he wants to have longevity

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Speaker 6: with his career, I think he's going to be better

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Speaker 6: off doing that as opposed to now he fights some

620
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Speaker 6: other hammer and now he's looking at, you know, some

621
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Speaker 6: crazy losing streak and potentially getting kicked out of the UFC.

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Speaker 6: So not to say that that's what's going to happen,

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Speaker 6: but I think that's Jamal's best approach moving forward.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I just think all in.

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Speaker 5: I think if Jamal Hill goes all in, he can

626
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Speaker 5: realize the world title again at two hundred and five pounds.

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Speaker 2: Go ahead, And I'll say one other thing.

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Speaker 6: I think it's very important for fighters to know who

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Speaker 6: they are and what got them to that point in

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Speaker 6: their career. And while Jamal Hill was absolutely talented, I

631
00:31:27,720 --> 00:31:32,280
Speaker 6: think what got him to where he was was a humility,

632
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Speaker 6: was a good work ethic inconsistency, and he needs to

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Speaker 6: go back to that. Sometimes it's easy to go, you know,

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Speaker 6: oh yeah, I'm absolutely blessed and I'm so talented. I

635
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Speaker 6: don't need to work work on things I have all

636
00:31:45,480 --> 00:31:47,840
Speaker 6: the skills that I need right now. I'm a former champion,

637
00:31:47,880 --> 00:31:49,959
Speaker 6: and you start telling yourself these things and it can

638
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Speaker 6: be very.

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Speaker 2: Corrosive to your ability to kind of progress.

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Speaker 6: And I'm not saying that's the case, but I think

641
00:31:55,800 --> 00:31:57,680
Speaker 6: for Jamal Hill, he needs to go back to being

642
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Speaker 6: that humble, hard working guy and just grind in the

643
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Speaker 6: gym to come back with some new skills.

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Speaker 2: Like that word corrosive.

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Speaker 5: Speaking of coming back with some new skills, I'm gonna

646
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Speaker 5: try to use that on the UFC telecast this week,

647
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Speaker 5: but we'll try to use the word. I'll at UFC

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Speaker 5: three seventeen. Maybe I can start doing a word of

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Speaker 5: the show now. We don't want to take it after

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Speaker 5: the live broadcast. Corrosive is a great word.

651
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Speaker 2: Though.

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Speaker 5: I would like to read to you some quotes from

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Speaker 5: Dean Thomas. These came on the front end of the

654
00:32:25,960 --> 00:32:29,600
Speaker 5: fight between Khalil Rowntree Junior and Jamal Hill. This was

655
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Speaker 5: Dean Thomas to MMA Junkie. I'm leaning towards Hill to

656
00:32:32,840 --> 00:32:35,840
Speaker 5: knockout Rountree. The reason being Khalil looked fantastic against a

657
00:32:35,880 --> 00:32:38,040
Speaker 5: Lex Pedata, but that was his moment and sometimes fighters

658
00:32:38,120 --> 00:32:39,800
Speaker 5: just have that moment and then they go back to

659
00:32:39,800 --> 00:32:41,800
Speaker 5: what they really are. And I'm not saying Khalil Rountree

660
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Speaker 5: is not a great fighter. He's a very dangerous fighter.

661
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Speaker 5: But I think he rose to the occasion with the

662
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Speaker 5: lex Pedata and then we're going to automatically assume that's

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Speaker 5: his new standard me personally, says Dean Thomas.

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Speaker 2: I don't necessarily assume that's his new standard.

665
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Speaker 5: I think he rose to the occasion, but I still

666
00:32:54,120 --> 00:32:56,200
Speaker 5: think he's a good and dangerous fighter, but not an

667
00:32:56,240 --> 00:32:58,840
Speaker 5: elite world championship level fighter. I think Jamal Hill has

668
00:32:58,880 --> 00:33:00,720
Speaker 5: that ability in him, you know. And then he goes

669
00:33:00,760 --> 00:33:02,520
Speaker 5: on to say what he says about Jamal Hill. So

670
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Speaker 5: to what extent do you think that Khalil Rountree Junior

671
00:33:06,960 --> 00:33:10,480
Speaker 5: can be a world championship level fighter if the world

672
00:33:10,520 --> 00:33:13,120
Speaker 5: champion right now in that division the standard that we're

673
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Speaker 5: judging him upon is magamet ancleav Well.

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Speaker 6: I understand Dean's point, I would disagree slightly on that.

675
00:33:20,160 --> 00:33:23,200
Speaker 6: I think that striking wise, he certainly shows that he

676
00:33:23,240 --> 00:33:26,400
Speaker 6: can be world class and can be a championship title

677
00:33:26,400 --> 00:33:29,080
Speaker 6: holder in the UFC. I think that I'd still like

678
00:33:29,120 --> 00:33:32,080
Speaker 6: to see a little bit more of his takedout defense

679
00:33:32,120 --> 00:33:34,960
Speaker 6: and maybe some grappling on the ground. But from what

680
00:33:35,000 --> 00:33:38,800
Speaker 6: I've seen, I think that what he did against Alex

681
00:33:38,840 --> 00:33:41,960
Speaker 6: Pereira actually gave him a peek into what he's capable

682
00:33:41,960 --> 00:33:42,960
Speaker 6: of and actually can.

683
00:33:42,920 --> 00:33:43,560
Speaker 2: Rise him up.

684
00:33:43,560 --> 00:33:45,440
Speaker 6: So I'm seeing a little bit differently, perhaps a little

685
00:33:45,440 --> 00:33:48,720
Speaker 6: bit more optimistically. But can that be the case of

686
00:33:48,720 --> 00:33:51,120
Speaker 6: what Dean said? Yeah, that definitely could be the case.

687
00:33:51,200 --> 00:33:54,240
Speaker 6: But I said a little differently, how.

688
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Speaker 5: Do you see a fight between Khalil Rountree Junior and

689
00:33:57,400 --> 00:34:01,240
Speaker 5: magamet unc Lai of going, now, let me catch you off.

690
00:34:02,080 --> 00:34:04,760
Speaker 5: It's probably gonna be Uri pro Hosker or somebody else first, right,

691
00:34:04,800 --> 00:34:08,040
Speaker 5: But like he can't be competitive in a kickboxing match

692
00:34:08,040 --> 00:34:10,480
Speaker 5: with magamat Alkalai. Is Magame gonna just take him down?

693
00:34:10,560 --> 00:34:14,400
Speaker 5: And maybe? But right, like I mean, I don't know.

694
00:34:14,480 --> 00:34:16,359
Speaker 5: I mean, there's a lot of striking in the light

695
00:34:16,400 --> 00:34:17,600
Speaker 5: heavyweight division.

696
00:34:17,480 --> 00:34:19,600
Speaker 6: Absolutely, and I give him a chance to knock out

697
00:34:19,600 --> 00:34:22,480
Speaker 6: anybody or hurt people. Again, we've seen Uncliath struggle with

698
00:34:22,560 --> 00:34:27,640
Speaker 6: leg kicks round tree. That's his specialty, and the guy's

699
00:34:27,640 --> 00:34:30,279
Speaker 6: got knockout power. He landed some serious shots and again

700
00:34:30,400 --> 00:34:33,080
Speaker 6: kudos to Hill for eating a lot of big shots

701
00:34:33,400 --> 00:34:36,080
Speaker 6: with punches from Klill. So round Tree is putting together

702
00:34:36,239 --> 00:34:39,960
Speaker 6: a lot of combinations now which he really didn't do before.

703
00:34:40,640 --> 00:34:43,040
Speaker 6: To me, that's indicative of someone who is improving and

704
00:34:43,080 --> 00:34:45,360
Speaker 6: getting more comfortable as a striker, which is a scary

705
00:34:45,360 --> 00:34:48,560
Speaker 6: thought considering how dangerous a round Tree has proven to be.

706
00:34:48,719 --> 00:34:52,080
Speaker 6: So yeah, no, I see progression, I see improvement, and

707
00:34:52,160 --> 00:34:54,799
Speaker 6: I see a guy who could hold the belt at

708
00:34:54,800 --> 00:34:56,480
Speaker 6: some point. But I want to see more from him

709
00:34:56,480 --> 00:34:58,279
Speaker 6: on the grappling side of things. That's where Uncle I

710
00:34:58,440 --> 00:35:00,560
Speaker 6: have I think could be a threat with his takedown

711
00:35:00,560 --> 00:35:01,479
Speaker 6: in ground or pount.

712
00:35:01,800 --> 00:35:04,920
Speaker 5: I think Tom Reyes was actually campaigning for Kloil Rowntree Junior.

713
00:35:04,960 --> 00:35:06,720
Speaker 5: I think that's right. That makes a lot of sense

714
00:35:06,719 --> 00:35:09,560
Speaker 5: for the main event. Excuse me, I wonder if those

715
00:35:09,560 --> 00:35:13,239
Speaker 5: guys have fought before. By the way, were on ray

716
00:35:13,280 --> 00:35:18,160
Speaker 5: Longo in Italy. So hopefully that ends up going down.

717
00:35:18,200 --> 00:35:20,040
Speaker 5: But we have a lot of things that we need

718
00:35:20,080 --> 00:35:23,120
Speaker 5: to get to and we'll see how they spit it

719
00:35:23,160 --> 00:35:25,400
Speaker 5: forward with Khalil Rowntree Junior. A lot of options for

720
00:35:25,480 --> 00:35:28,240
Speaker 5: him now at two oh five. All right, So Blah

721
00:35:28,280 --> 00:35:31,200
Speaker 5: Muhammad is fond of saying that Ignaciobamandez is the best

722
00:35:31,200 --> 00:35:34,080
Speaker 5: striker in the UFC, and he might be top ten

723
00:35:34,200 --> 00:35:39,360
Speaker 5: for sure, but Raphael phaziv Bro in terms of offense

724
00:35:39,400 --> 00:35:41,520
Speaker 5: and defense, that dude might be the best striker in

725
00:35:41,560 --> 00:35:45,120
Speaker 5: the UFC. Best striking coach in the UFC might just

726
00:35:45,160 --> 00:35:47,640
Speaker 5: be Ray Longo. Ray not even going to go to

727
00:35:47,680 --> 00:35:49,799
Speaker 5: the intro. We just would like to see you live

728
00:35:49,840 --> 00:35:54,480
Speaker 5: from Italy, Guys.

729
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Speaker 4: I definitely took a year off my life. I don't

730
00:35:56,480 --> 00:35:57,479
Speaker 4: even know where I am right.

731
00:35:57,400 --> 00:35:59,040
Speaker 2: Now, your sideways right now?

732
00:36:02,880 --> 00:36:05,480
Speaker 4: I would you know, Kenny, this is how delirious I am.

733
00:36:05,880 --> 00:36:08,040
Speaker 4: I might have not. I might have not even have

734
00:36:08,200 --> 00:36:09,720
Speaker 4: noticed that for a while.

735
00:36:10,440 --> 00:36:13,080
Speaker 2: It was weird being on a different time change, right yeah.

736
00:36:13,080 --> 00:36:15,120
Speaker 4: And I don't think I've slept more than two hours

737
00:36:15,160 --> 00:36:16,960
Speaker 4: in the list fifty hours.

738
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Speaker 2: John does not feel bad for you, Okay, this is

739
00:36:19,280 --> 00:36:19,680
Speaker 2: what he does.

740
00:36:19,880 --> 00:36:20,080
Speaker 7: I do.

741
00:36:20,200 --> 00:36:21,840
Speaker 2: I feel horribly for you.

742
00:36:21,840 --> 00:36:23,840
Speaker 4: No, I think he might this one, this one, he

743
00:36:23,840 --> 00:36:27,600
Speaker 4: should feel bad. I I tell you. I think, Kenny,

744
00:36:27,680 --> 00:36:31,600
Speaker 4: you got out of Turkey just in time. I Kenny,

745
00:36:31,640 --> 00:36:33,680
Speaker 4: I thought I was not getting out of them. Man.

746
00:36:34,080 --> 00:36:34,919
Speaker 2: That's scary, man.

747
00:36:35,080 --> 00:36:39,120
Speaker 4: I have now a layo and it was fuck. Those

748
00:36:39,280 --> 00:36:43,759
Speaker 4: minutes were going like hours. It was frisking because I

749
00:36:43,760 --> 00:36:46,359
Speaker 4: didn't I go, dude, I get stuck here. Man, I'm

750
00:36:46,400 --> 00:36:48,640
Speaker 4: fucking screwed. Now. Who the hell? You know? Your people

751
00:36:48,640 --> 00:36:50,480
Speaker 4: of text and you hope you get home safe or

752
00:36:50,480 --> 00:36:52,560
Speaker 4: praying for you, like you know, well, I'm in an

753
00:36:52,560 --> 00:36:54,759
Speaker 4: older generation at this point. It's different, you know what

754
00:36:54,800 --> 00:36:57,240
Speaker 4: I mean? Like I'm watching young people. They're just running

755
00:36:57,239 --> 00:37:02,560
Speaker 4: around like nothing's going on. But why gone really crazy?

756
00:37:02,760 --> 00:37:06,280
Speaker 5: Can you just chronicle real quickly for people who haven't

757
00:37:06,320 --> 00:37:09,200
Speaker 5: maybe been tracking your every move where you are. I

758
00:37:09,239 --> 00:37:12,080
Speaker 5: assume your wife is still with you. Where you are

759
00:37:12,080 --> 00:37:15,359
Speaker 5: you on vacation in Italy? Are you sideswiped there? What's

760
00:37:15,400 --> 00:37:15,879
Speaker 5: going on?

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00:37:15,920 --> 00:37:19,800
Speaker 4: What have you been I'm gonna say, if I understand,

762
00:37:19,840 --> 00:37:23,279
Speaker 4: I'm going to say, sideswiped? I figured come back here

763
00:37:23,320 --> 00:37:24,959
Speaker 4: for a day and then go back to New York

764
00:37:25,120 --> 00:37:28,400
Speaker 4: just to break it up. I don't know it was

765
00:37:28,840 --> 00:37:29,120
Speaker 4: you know.

766
00:37:29,960 --> 00:37:33,840
Speaker 2: You got they're shutting things down? What happened?

767
00:37:34,120 --> 00:37:36,840
Speaker 4: You know? First off is everything starts off good. We

768
00:37:36,920 --> 00:37:42,160
Speaker 4: go to Sorrento, beautiful place, beautiful, beautiful place. Fomp the table.

769
00:37:42,200 --> 00:37:44,880
Speaker 4: I mean, it's like a twenty eight of fall private Be.

770
00:37:45,120 --> 00:37:48,640
Speaker 4: It's just outstanding. Right then I go to you know,

771
00:37:48,840 --> 00:37:50,840
Speaker 4: I'm going to Baku, and you know, I got friends

772
00:37:50,880 --> 00:37:52,840
Speaker 4: telling me, like, what the fuck's the matter with you? Like,

773
00:37:52,920 --> 00:37:55,480
Speaker 4: you know, it's like shit going on, you know, some

774
00:37:55,560 --> 00:37:58,400
Speaker 4: of that whatever, that doesn't even matter. But I'm at

775
00:37:58,680 --> 00:38:02,560
Speaker 4: the Naples Airport. I get done eating Kenny, I'm waiting

776
00:38:02,600 --> 00:38:06,520
Speaker 4: for the check and I'm here and fucking scream run

777
00:38:07,000 --> 00:38:11,640
Speaker 4: everybody out. People are flying, stomping on each other to

778
00:38:11,680 --> 00:38:14,719
Speaker 4: get out the door. What and we go flying. This

779
00:38:14,800 --> 00:38:18,680
Speaker 4: is before, this is when I'm heading tobacco. So you know,

780
00:38:18,840 --> 00:38:22,000
Speaker 4: in my brain, I go back and I googled it.

781
00:38:22,120 --> 00:38:26,000
Speaker 4: So we get outside, so somebody nobody really had an answer,

782
00:38:26,000 --> 00:38:28,680
Speaker 4: but they said somebody must have sprayed something in the

783
00:38:28,719 --> 00:38:32,840
Speaker 4: air conditioned event and it smelled funky, and they just

784
00:38:33,080 --> 00:38:36,920
Speaker 4: do they evacuated that place. People were fucking crying. I'm like,

785
00:38:36,920 --> 00:38:38,560
Speaker 4: I didn't even get the I didn't even get the

786
00:38:38,560 --> 00:38:42,440
Speaker 4: box fire, and they ain't even for some reason. My

787
00:38:42,480 --> 00:38:45,200
Speaker 4: wife got ground for some reason that didn't even rattle me.

788
00:38:45,239 --> 00:38:48,279
Speaker 4: And it was weird because I had to look it up.

789
00:38:48,280 --> 00:38:50,080
Speaker 4: But like I thought it was a little early. But

790
00:38:50,120 --> 00:38:52,920
Speaker 4: in eighty five. A buddy of mine from high school

791
00:38:52,960 --> 00:38:56,120
Speaker 4: was in Rome. He got done down by terrorists. You know,

792
00:38:56,200 --> 00:38:57,759
Speaker 4: I looked it up, Yeah, you know, I had to

793
00:38:57,800 --> 00:39:00,560
Speaker 4: look just yeah. So I'm like, and this is y

794
00:39:00,640 --> 00:39:02,000
Speaker 4: go what the fuck like, I don't even know what

795
00:39:02,080 --> 00:39:06,759
Speaker 4: I just witnessed. Man, it was pandemonium. So they get

796
00:39:06,840 --> 00:39:09,200
Speaker 4: on the plane. I don't know what to expect Mbaku,

797
00:39:09,280 --> 00:39:14,920
Speaker 4: but Baku is absolutely beautiful. What a beautiful city, beautiful people.

798
00:39:15,400 --> 00:39:17,759
Speaker 4: So I go from like a high to lows. I'm

799
00:39:17,760 --> 00:39:20,640
Speaker 4: on vacation. The airport thing. I get over that. I

800
00:39:20,680 --> 00:39:23,279
Speaker 4: go to Baku. Everything's good. I see people I haven't seen,

801
00:39:23,360 --> 00:39:25,360
Speaker 4: you know, even kids from the gym that were friends

802
00:39:25,400 --> 00:39:28,880
Speaker 4: with nas. Great time, you know, like great time, and

803
00:39:29,080 --> 00:39:30,440
Speaker 4: I one to I just want to shout out the

804
00:39:30,440 --> 00:39:33,799
Speaker 4: guy's name because I met him in Abu Dhabi, Oslon,

805
00:39:34,360 --> 00:39:37,120
Speaker 4: Mosva Mav. I hope I get the name right. But

806
00:39:37,120 --> 00:39:42,960
Speaker 4: he's got a restaurant at Sea Uma, fantastic place, beautiful.

807
00:39:43,280 --> 00:39:47,200
Speaker 4: This is a really beautiful city, uptrending. The guy treats

808
00:39:47,280 --> 00:39:50,200
Speaker 4: us like gold. The food is great. I'm having a

809
00:39:50,239 --> 00:39:53,880
Speaker 4: great time again. And Rubinstein's at the table and he

810
00:39:53,920 --> 00:39:56,480
Speaker 4: goes it's a level two. We got to start. I

811
00:39:56,480 --> 00:39:59,120
Speaker 4: got to get wood out of him. Man, what what

812
00:39:59,239 --> 00:40:03,640
Speaker 4: the fuck's he goes? No, they if they're changing everybody's flights,

813
00:40:03,680 --> 00:40:06,640
Speaker 4: we got it's just unsettling. So I was all having

814
00:40:06,680 --> 00:40:08,359
Speaker 4: a good time that I can't even eat my food.

815
00:40:08,400 --> 00:40:09,960
Speaker 4: I'm thinking, man, I'm not even getting out to.

816
00:40:10,080 --> 00:40:12,279
Speaker 2: This is before the fight, before the fight.

817
00:40:13,040 --> 00:40:17,680
Speaker 4: So I'm like, holy shit, let me stropping.

818
00:40:16,120 --> 00:40:18,279
Speaker 2: A fucking code level two on you before the fight.

819
00:40:18,320 --> 00:40:20,239
Speaker 4: But he's not. He's not making it like I'm not

820
00:40:20,280 --> 00:40:23,359
Speaker 4: saying he's He's just he's non chalanting it. But I'm like,

821
00:40:23,880 --> 00:40:26,080
Speaker 4: he goes, we gotta you know, they want people out

822
00:40:26,080 --> 00:40:29,640
Speaker 4: of here quick. I guess I thought changing my shirt around.

823
00:40:29,680 --> 00:40:32,759
Speaker 4: I get over that. Obviously, NAS has a tremendous fight.

824
00:40:33,120 --> 00:40:35,719
Speaker 4: It's fucking great, you know what I mean. Obviously, I

825
00:40:35,719 --> 00:40:41,120
Speaker 4: mean we get that at now. I can't even sleep

826
00:40:41,160 --> 00:40:43,960
Speaker 4: because of the excitement of the fight. I put my

827
00:40:44,000 --> 00:40:46,000
Speaker 4: head down for a half hour maybe, and I get

828
00:40:46,080 --> 00:40:48,879
Speaker 4: up to go to the bathroom and I just pick

829
00:40:48,960 --> 00:40:51,879
Speaker 4: up my phone. I see Trump bomb IRN. I'm like, like,

830
00:40:51,920 --> 00:40:55,600
Speaker 4: this is bullshit, man. This guy couldn't wait two fucking.

831
00:40:55,280 --> 00:40:57,000
Speaker 2: Weeks watching the show.

832
00:40:57,239 --> 00:41:01,799
Speaker 4: No, let me tell you at something now, people are

833
00:41:01,840 --> 00:41:05,600
Speaker 4: really the UFC is changing everybody's flight. I don't know

834
00:41:05,600 --> 00:41:07,240
Speaker 4: if I'm I don't want to make like I'm exactly.

835
00:41:07,280 --> 00:41:09,719
Speaker 4: I don't even know. No, no, no, I'm one of

836
00:41:09,719 --> 00:41:11,560
Speaker 4: the last guys in the hotel. There were people a

837
00:41:11,600 --> 00:41:14,799
Speaker 4: couple of people behind me, but I could tell you. Man,

838
00:41:14,840 --> 00:41:17,000
Speaker 4: when I got I just said, now, I'm saying to myself,

839
00:41:17,640 --> 00:41:19,600
Speaker 4: let me just get this, damn bull, man, let me

840
00:41:19,680 --> 00:41:21,640
Speaker 4: just get you know, I just want to make sure

841
00:41:21,640 --> 00:41:23,640
Speaker 4: they don't cancel flights, you know that type of shit

842
00:41:23,719 --> 00:41:28,120
Speaker 4: more than anything else. And then I get this damn

843
00:41:28,200 --> 00:41:32,680
Speaker 4: bull and I run into uh. I got like a

844
00:41:32,719 --> 00:41:36,680
Speaker 4: seven hour leo beautiful airport again beautiful outstands, I mean

845
00:41:36,680 --> 00:41:37,600
Speaker 4: beautiful airport.

846
00:41:37,719 --> 00:41:39,920
Speaker 5: Yeah, I hear that airport something else, but anyway, you

847
00:41:39,960 --> 00:41:40,879
Speaker 5: got seven there.

848
00:41:41,440 --> 00:41:43,560
Speaker 4: I'm up in the lounge, you know, one of those,

849
00:41:43,880 --> 00:41:47,600
Speaker 4: you know, business class lounges, and I run into Jamal Hill.

850
00:41:47,680 --> 00:41:50,400
Speaker 4: He tells me left some of his bags in the

851
00:41:50,480 --> 00:41:52,799
Speaker 4: room because they told him you got to get out

852
00:41:52,800 --> 00:41:54,520
Speaker 4: of there. So I don't know, like again, you got

853
00:41:54,520 --> 00:41:57,239
Speaker 4: to you got to call anything. And he's got like

854
00:41:57,239 --> 00:41:59,279
Speaker 4: a twelve hollur lea. He I don't even know. He

855
00:41:59,400 --> 00:42:01,520
Speaker 4: just got out of there, so he's stuck in there

856
00:42:01,520 --> 00:42:04,840
Speaker 4: for twelve hours. So you know, we're what a like

857
00:42:04,880 --> 00:42:08,560
Speaker 4: a sweet guy had girlfriend, what a pretty outstanding girl.

858
00:42:08,600 --> 00:42:10,920
Speaker 4: I mean, but we're talking and he's got his hat

859
00:42:10,960 --> 00:42:13,120
Speaker 4: over his city. He doesn't want anybody to notice them

860
00:42:13,400 --> 00:42:15,319
Speaker 4: because now, like you know, when I'm leaving, you know,

861
00:42:15,360 --> 00:42:18,759
Speaker 4: the Americans, I don't think a look upon. It's just

862
00:42:18,760 --> 00:42:21,919
Speaker 4: a weird feeling. Jihants like you know, I'm more going

863
00:42:21,960 --> 00:42:24,120
Speaker 4: to the route. Man. I don't hope they don't cancel flights.

864
00:42:24,120 --> 00:42:27,440
Speaker 4: But if I get stuck here, blah blah blah, and

865
00:42:27,840 --> 00:42:29,640
Speaker 4: you know, me and him just start talking. You know,

866
00:42:29,640 --> 00:42:31,319
Speaker 4: at least we're trying to pass some of the time.

867
00:42:31,320 --> 00:42:34,720
Speaker 4: But trust me, you don't pass eight or twelve hours

868
00:42:34,760 --> 00:42:38,560
Speaker 4: that easy when you're worried about can something happen? You

869
00:42:38,640 --> 00:42:41,680
Speaker 4: know what I mean? Like, so, I don't know, we

870
00:42:41,840 --> 00:42:46,080
Speaker 4: end up just hanging out and then somebody and now

871
00:42:46,120 --> 00:42:47,960
Speaker 4: I feel good again. I mean this, dam so I'm

872
00:42:47,960 --> 00:42:51,880
Speaker 4: going up and down right John, It's I don't know,

873
00:42:52,080 --> 00:42:54,400
Speaker 4: it could be look I'm saying, it could be my age.

874
00:42:54,800 --> 00:42:57,600
Speaker 4: I don't really nothing much really fucking bothers me. I'm

875
00:42:57,600 --> 00:43:00,680
Speaker 4: fucking starting to pack it, like I go, like I

876
00:43:00,719 --> 00:43:02,279
Speaker 4: want to see, I want to see my kids are

877
00:43:02,320 --> 00:43:05,120
Speaker 4: getting right at all?

878
00:43:05,160 --> 00:43:07,560
Speaker 2: I bet was what was that off at all?

879
00:43:08,040 --> 00:43:11,440
Speaker 4: Buff? Buff? I don't think left the hotel. Buff was

880
00:43:11,520 --> 00:43:15,080
Speaker 4: getting mobbed. The fans were outstanding, like you had fourteen

881
00:43:15,160 --> 00:43:17,320
Speaker 4: year old kids jumping on the car when we're leaving.

882
00:43:17,719 --> 00:43:21,839
Speaker 4: We had police escort to the arena. You know, there's

883
00:43:22,239 --> 00:43:24,840
Speaker 4: the bomb, you know, the dogs sniffing the buses and

884
00:43:25,080 --> 00:43:27,680
Speaker 4: me just I mean, you know then I think wood

885
00:43:27,719 --> 00:43:30,719
Speaker 4: goes as somebody goes, you know, you know, we're stuck

886
00:43:30,760 --> 00:43:33,360
Speaker 4: in a big arena. Now you're almost thinking like the movies,

887
00:43:33,520 --> 00:43:36,040
Speaker 4: you know, like one of those sudden deaths or something.

888
00:43:36,080 --> 00:43:38,360
Speaker 4: Now that's a place you could you could hit. But

889
00:43:38,520 --> 00:43:41,080
Speaker 4: and I don't know, so whatever. But the fight grade,

890
00:43:41,560 --> 00:43:43,600
Speaker 4: the ViBe's grade, I don't know, so what whatever. Let

891
00:43:43,640 --> 00:43:45,960
Speaker 4: me take you back to where I'm in theirport with

892
00:43:46,000 --> 00:43:47,520
Speaker 4: the other with Jamal Lellen.

893
00:43:47,560 --> 00:43:50,799
Speaker 2: We're talking and how is his leg real quick?

894
00:43:51,680 --> 00:43:53,480
Speaker 4: No, he said it wasn't bad at all. And we

895
00:43:53,640 --> 00:43:55,640
Speaker 4: talked to you know, talked about the fight. He's right,

896
00:43:55,800 --> 00:43:57,359
Speaker 4: talking about a lot of stuff. I was just trying

897
00:43:57,400 --> 00:44:01,279
Speaker 4: to add levity to, you know, make the situation better,

898
00:44:01,320 --> 00:44:04,239
Speaker 4: because I felt bad for him because he had four

899
00:44:04,320 --> 00:44:07,400
Speaker 4: hours to go. Then I did, and I'm telling you,

900
00:44:08,320 --> 00:44:10,440
Speaker 4: I don't give it even an allounge. What do you do?

901
00:44:10,960 --> 00:44:11,839
Speaker 4: I can't go to bed.

902
00:44:12,120 --> 00:44:14,640
Speaker 2: You know, there's no fight today. So you were not

903
00:44:14,800 --> 00:44:16,880
Speaker 2: scheduled to go to Italy on the back end of this,

904
00:44:17,200 --> 00:44:18,840
Speaker 2: you were re routing me.

905
00:44:20,120 --> 00:44:24,400
Speaker 4: No, I scheduled it when I was when we you know,

906
00:44:24,480 --> 00:44:26,680
Speaker 4: I didn't. I didn't. I didn't have a return flight.

907
00:44:26,760 --> 00:44:29,160
Speaker 4: But I figured, well, I was supposed to come just

908
00:44:29,239 --> 00:44:32,840
Speaker 4: for a night, just to hang out, and I was

909
00:44:32,920 --> 00:44:35,759
Speaker 4: going to go back from there. But so that guy,

910
00:44:35,920 --> 00:44:37,040
Speaker 4: you know, I pushed it back at day. I was

911
00:44:37,040 --> 00:44:40,799
Speaker 4: supposed to be home yesterday obviously, so uh. And then

912
00:44:40,840 --> 00:44:42,400
Speaker 4: I met, you know, when I was at the the

913
00:44:44,200 --> 00:44:46,640
Speaker 4: I forget the name of the hotel was so beautiful.

914
00:44:46,760 --> 00:44:48,680
Speaker 4: But I met a kid, did one of the workers

915
00:44:48,760 --> 00:44:51,440
Speaker 4: who he knew all the Italian guys that trained at

916
00:44:51,480 --> 00:44:54,239
Speaker 4: the gym. So I told him I'll meet him. He

917
00:44:54,400 --> 00:44:56,640
Speaker 4: was from Naples, that he worked in surrenal. I guess,

918
00:44:56,680 --> 00:44:59,000
Speaker 4: I said, ooka. I took his number. I said, don't

919
00:44:59,000 --> 00:45:00,920
Speaker 4: want to go back. I'll cool, And then he texted

920
00:45:01,320 --> 00:45:03,000
Speaker 4: when I was there and I said, look, I things

921
00:45:03,080 --> 00:45:05,120
Speaker 4: got canceled. So I don't think I'm gonna make it,

922
00:45:06,120 --> 00:45:08,200
Speaker 4: but I'll probably text him after this to sef He's right,

923
00:45:08,280 --> 00:45:12,040
Speaker 4: it's just a nice kid. And yeah, getting back to

924
00:45:12,120 --> 00:45:14,960
Speaker 4: buffet O, Buffer was, uh, I mean you have to

925
00:45:15,040 --> 00:45:17,000
Speaker 4: talk to him. I think he might have been a

926
00:45:17,080 --> 00:45:20,239
Speaker 4: little rattled, but he couldn't walk anywhere. That's the damn show.

927
00:45:20,360 --> 00:45:20,520
Speaker 2: Yeah.

928
00:45:20,840 --> 00:45:25,399
Speaker 5: So all right, Well, I'm glad you're safe. This sort

929
00:45:25,400 --> 00:45:28,520
Speaker 5: of a lot to digest, but I I'm sure you're

930
00:45:28,560 --> 00:45:31,000
Speaker 5: gonna you're gonna push out a tweet as soon as

931
00:45:31,040 --> 00:45:33,680
Speaker 5: you get back to the US, the the stars at

932
00:45:33,719 --> 00:45:36,959
Speaker 5: the stripes. Just put that US flag, baby, I mean.

933
00:45:40,840 --> 00:45:43,320
Speaker 4: Yeah, sorry John for me, I'll kiss that fucking ground

934
00:45:43,320 --> 00:45:46,280
Speaker 4: when I land. Trust Yeah, I will kiss that ground.

935
00:45:46,560 --> 00:45:46,759
Speaker 2: Yeah.

936
00:45:46,880 --> 00:45:49,359
Speaker 4: But you know, you were talking about Kenny last week,

937
00:45:49,800 --> 00:45:52,400
Speaker 4: and I'm going nothing's even going on really at that point.

938
00:45:52,520 --> 00:45:55,920
Speaker 4: It's like, you know, then when people start calling you

939
00:45:56,040 --> 00:45:59,359
Speaker 4: saying they start giving you the geography, you know, if

940
00:45:59,360 --> 00:46:02,080
Speaker 4: you're not used to it, it's a little I think

941
00:46:02,680 --> 00:46:05,040
Speaker 4: you know, you're like out of controling. Like when I

942
00:46:05,120 --> 00:46:06,960
Speaker 4: talked to Nazi, He's like, hey, right, listen, man, in

943
00:46:07,040 --> 00:46:10,120
Speaker 4: this part of the you know, you're always there's always conflict.

944
00:46:10,239 --> 00:46:11,719
Speaker 4: You got to be ready, you know. I guess they

945
00:46:12,320 --> 00:46:14,480
Speaker 4: they kind of understand it, you know, like you know,

946
00:46:14,520 --> 00:46:17,319
Speaker 4: we're so safe in the US. It's a little different maybe,

947
00:46:17,360 --> 00:46:20,800
Speaker 4: and never get that feeling. But I ain't doing it.

948
00:46:20,840 --> 00:46:23,680
Speaker 4: I don't think I'm doing that again, dude, I haven't slept.

949
00:46:23,760 --> 00:46:25,560
Speaker 4: I mean, I don't. I just slept now for like

950
00:46:25,680 --> 00:46:28,279
Speaker 4: three hours because I I Chris, and obviously I get

951
00:46:28,280 --> 00:46:30,040
Speaker 4: to the hotel at like eight in the morning, don't

952
00:46:30,080 --> 00:46:33,720
Speaker 4: have the room ready. I might as well have slept

953
00:46:33,800 --> 00:46:38,040
Speaker 4: standing up. But it was nobody, nobody, I think every

954
00:46:38,200 --> 00:46:40,920
Speaker 4: I don't know, but you know, I think I don't know.

955
00:46:40,920 --> 00:46:42,840
Speaker 4: I don't know if I'm exaggerating it, but for me,

956
00:46:43,000 --> 00:46:44,600
Speaker 4: that was it, you know. And I you know, it's

957
00:46:44,600 --> 00:46:47,960
Speaker 4: almost like tell him, my wife's sorry even put you

958
00:46:48,040 --> 00:46:48,360
Speaker 4: through this.

959
00:46:49,040 --> 00:46:54,120
Speaker 5: It's like, well, I don't know, but I want Yeah,

960
00:46:54,200 --> 00:46:56,960
Speaker 5: we have a lot of everybody, Yeah, we have a

961
00:46:57,080 --> 00:46:59,680
Speaker 5: ton of things that we want to get to with you.

962
00:46:59,800 --> 00:47:03,399
Speaker 5: But yeah, I mean, sleep deprivation is an amazing form

963
00:47:03,480 --> 00:47:05,520
Speaker 5: of torture, right, I mean when I was pleasuring for child,

964
00:47:06,280 --> 00:47:07,680
Speaker 5: woke us up every goddamn night.

965
00:47:07,760 --> 00:47:08,280
Speaker 2: It was brutal.

966
00:47:08,400 --> 00:47:10,800
Speaker 4: Hey, this could be one of the reason too. I

967
00:47:10,880 --> 00:47:13,759
Speaker 4: really haven't slooked, so maybe I'm in my mind a

968
00:47:13,760 --> 00:47:16,160
Speaker 4: little different. But before they to get to like, you know,

969
00:47:16,560 --> 00:47:20,640
Speaker 4: when I hit uh this damn bull, it's always good

970
00:47:20,680 --> 00:47:22,160
Speaker 4: to see it. And I just came from the airport

971
00:47:22,200 --> 00:47:23,839
Speaker 4: where that should happened, so it's always good to see

972
00:47:23,840 --> 00:47:25,680
Speaker 4: a familiar face. So I just wanted to shout out,

973
00:47:25,680 --> 00:47:27,959
Speaker 4: and Mark got it, and Bob wanted to cut guys,

974
00:47:28,040 --> 00:47:30,520
Speaker 4: so they were there in my flat obviously, but I

975
00:47:30,640 --> 00:47:32,480
Speaker 4: think Danny, I don't know who. I didn't have a

976
00:47:32,640 --> 00:47:35,480
Speaker 4: right back, so now I'm two with no right at

977
00:47:35,520 --> 00:47:39,040
Speaker 4: the airport. So God, I thank you very much. Those guys,

978
00:47:39,160 --> 00:47:41,200
Speaker 4: you know, they definitely looked after me. They got the

979
00:47:41,320 --> 00:47:44,600
Speaker 4: USC you know, we got to uh, you know, we

980
00:47:44,719 --> 00:47:47,520
Speaker 4: got we got to buckle nicely. And yeah, there was

981
00:47:47,560 --> 00:47:49,839
Speaker 4: another doctor from Holland that you know, and then these

982
00:47:49,880 --> 00:47:52,520
Speaker 4: were in the He's like, I'm surprised they didn't cancel

983
00:47:52,560 --> 00:47:56,279
Speaker 4: the event. I'm feel good again, Jean. It was dude,

984
00:47:56,320 --> 00:47:59,000
Speaker 4: it was like I feel great. I'm shipping in my pants.

985
00:47:59,040 --> 00:48:00,800
Speaker 4: I feel great, Like I don't what the it was

986
00:48:00,880 --> 00:48:03,080
Speaker 4: just yeah, it might have been been no reason, it

987
00:48:03,120 --> 00:48:05,160
Speaker 4: could have been in my head. I don't know, but

988
00:48:05,239 --> 00:48:07,960
Speaker 4: I'm just telling you the way I was going down,

989
00:48:08,040 --> 00:48:09,880
Speaker 4: like I go canful the eventing?

990
00:48:10,840 --> 00:48:12,960
Speaker 5: No, I mean, I think buff and some others maybe

991
00:48:13,040 --> 00:48:15,400
Speaker 5: opened that uh that pink slip Mike An I might

992
00:48:15,440 --> 00:48:16,080
Speaker 5: actually can't.

993
00:48:17,640 --> 00:48:20,239
Speaker 4: Buffalo. I think Buffalo, I think is but Bruce will

994
00:48:20,320 --> 00:48:25,120
Speaker 4: agree with me, you know. And another oh, and another

995
00:48:25,160 --> 00:48:27,760
Speaker 4: one of NAS's friends. I want to shout out this kid, Moosa,

996
00:48:28,160 --> 00:48:31,040
Speaker 4: who's a great kid. He's from obviously he's from there,

997
00:48:31,040 --> 00:48:34,279
Speaker 4: but he lives in uh I think Austin now. And

998
00:48:34,440 --> 00:48:36,919
Speaker 4: he helped me out with the hotel because I would

999
00:48:36,960 --> 00:48:40,040
Speaker 4: have been thrown out of the hotel early because once

1000
00:48:40,080 --> 00:48:42,839
Speaker 4: you start messing with the flights, you you start figuring out,

1001
00:48:42,840 --> 00:48:44,800
Speaker 4: holy shit, I got to get an extended stay. But

1002
00:48:45,280 --> 00:48:47,880
Speaker 4: you're not in America, man, Like it's not as easy.

1003
00:48:48,000 --> 00:48:49,759
Speaker 4: You know. I was going to pay for an extra

1004
00:48:49,880 --> 00:48:51,640
Speaker 4: room and and he heard me talk and he went over.

1005
00:48:51,719 --> 00:48:56,840
Speaker 4: He just good, good guys. Great, you know. Yeah, I

1006
00:48:56,920 --> 00:48:58,839
Speaker 4: know a lot of people, a lot of I owe

1007
00:48:58,880 --> 00:49:00,880
Speaker 4: a lot of people, a lot of things, a lot

1008
00:49:00,960 --> 00:49:02,640
Speaker 4: of comfort, you know what I mean. So it was

1009
00:49:02,840 --> 00:49:06,040
Speaker 4: crazy and you stand the cramp out of me because

1010
00:49:06,120 --> 00:49:08,920
Speaker 4: list week on Monday, and you know I listened to you.

1011
00:49:09,360 --> 00:49:11,160
Speaker 4: I didn't turn off the phone you got You could

1012
00:49:11,160 --> 00:49:13,880
Speaker 4: see it in his face like he's he's worried. I'm like,

1013
00:49:14,200 --> 00:49:15,960
Speaker 4: I'm not even worried right now when I might have

1014
00:49:16,160 --> 00:49:18,279
Speaker 4: you know, I think it was something like that, right.

1015
00:49:18,400 --> 00:49:21,160
Speaker 5: Well, I think you know, we've all been there many

1016
00:49:21,400 --> 00:49:24,760
Speaker 5: times over right, certainly maybe not in this exact climate,

1017
00:49:24,840 --> 00:49:26,920
Speaker 5: going to this country, but whether it was going to COVID,

1018
00:49:27,160 --> 00:49:29,759
Speaker 5: going Abu Dhabi during COVID for several weeks at a time,

1019
00:49:29,840 --> 00:49:32,120
Speaker 5: there's just been a lot of different circumstances, so I

1020
00:49:32,200 --> 00:49:34,960
Speaker 5: could empathize with where you were. And I think I

1021
00:49:35,120 --> 00:49:36,960
Speaker 5: was just sort of saying, like, you know, if this

1022
00:49:37,160 --> 00:49:39,239
Speaker 5: dick Fox asking me, would you have this before I'm

1023
00:49:39,280 --> 00:49:39,759
Speaker 5: going to Perth?

1024
00:49:40,239 --> 00:49:42,400
Speaker 2: No no, no, no, no no no. You know, so

1025
00:49:42,480 --> 00:49:45,440
Speaker 2: all right, so how much time do you have because

1026
00:49:45,440 --> 00:49:46,239
Speaker 2: I'd like to try to be.

1027
00:49:46,280 --> 00:49:49,359
Speaker 4: As much time as possible. I'm just waiting to get

1028
00:49:49,400 --> 00:49:49,799
Speaker 4: out of here.

1029
00:49:50,080 --> 00:49:52,800
Speaker 5: Okay, all right, So we actually are scheduled to have

1030
00:49:53,800 --> 00:49:58,239
Speaker 5: Nas join us, so hopefully go for wide and you

1031
00:49:58,320 --> 00:50:00,560
Speaker 5: can stick around for that. But there's a lot that

1032
00:50:00,640 --> 00:50:02,040
Speaker 5: I'd like to get to and I would love to

1033
00:50:02,080 --> 00:50:05,440
Speaker 5: hear Kenny Florian's voice here shortly, but let me just

1034
00:50:06,080 --> 00:50:10,359
Speaker 5: fucking start with I don't know if it's the fight

1035
00:50:10,440 --> 00:50:13,120
Speaker 5: of the year, but as Paul Felder said on the broadcast,

1036
00:50:13,239 --> 00:50:19,160
Speaker 5: it was technical, it was violent. They deserve every coin

1037
00:50:19,280 --> 00:50:23,840
Speaker 5: of the bonus money, not being Sadakovo over Nicholas Mota

1038
00:50:23,920 --> 00:50:29,279
Speaker 5: by Tko at four seventeen around two and man if

1039
00:50:29,320 --> 00:50:31,480
Speaker 5: this event didn't need the fight of the year at

1040
00:50:31,480 --> 00:50:36,359
Speaker 5: that particular moment in time. Congratulations Ray, Yeah, I think

1041
00:50:36,480 --> 00:50:38,680
Speaker 5: with everything that you've just laid out, it's good that

1042
00:50:38,800 --> 00:50:40,320
Speaker 5: you were there to witness history.

1043
00:50:40,560 --> 00:50:42,640
Speaker 4: Oh what out of doubt and again like you know, look,

1044
00:50:42,680 --> 00:50:46,560
Speaker 4: I was I was at the first Russia show ever

1045
00:50:46,680 --> 00:50:51,240
Speaker 4: with Morob, which was you know, was the crazy trip,

1046
00:50:51,360 --> 00:50:54,880
Speaker 4: and now the first of a Baku fight with Nasey.

1047
00:50:55,040 --> 00:50:58,320
Speaker 4: So at least people are so proud of the heritage

1048
00:50:59,040 --> 00:51:02,239
Speaker 4: and it, dude, I can't tell you, it's just great.

1049
00:51:02,360 --> 00:51:06,000
Speaker 4: People like it. It's hard to explain, but for him

1050
00:51:06,120 --> 00:51:10,279
Speaker 4: it meant so much too. It was just super nice

1051
00:51:10,320 --> 00:51:12,800
Speaker 4: to be a party. You know, his dad is a

1052
00:51:12,960 --> 00:51:15,640
Speaker 4: great guy. I would I would do anything for that guy.

1053
00:51:15,719 --> 00:51:18,440
Speaker 4: And like again, they're so proud of their heritage, and

1054
00:51:18,560 --> 00:51:20,680
Speaker 4: for him to do that in front of his hometown people,

1055
00:51:21,239 --> 00:51:24,359
Speaker 4: he'll be he's got to be treated like a king

1056
00:51:24,440 --> 00:51:28,360
Speaker 4: over there. At this point that the fans were absolutely insane.

1057
00:51:29,160 --> 00:51:32,920
Speaker 4: I'm gonna say it was close to when several forth

1058
00:51:33,040 --> 00:51:36,560
Speaker 4: csp in Montreal the vibe, because you know, they were

1059
00:51:36,600 --> 00:51:39,160
Speaker 4: even getting us up to the ring. The only difference

1060
00:51:39,280 --> 00:51:41,640
Speaker 4: was in Montreal people trying to actually punch us as

1061
00:51:41,680 --> 00:51:44,479
Speaker 4: we were walking by. They were fucking crazy. These people

1062
00:51:44,600 --> 00:51:46,919
Speaker 4: just wanted to touch you, I think, but they still

1063
00:51:46,960 --> 00:51:49,120
Speaker 4: had a lot of security to get us up there.

1064
00:51:49,239 --> 00:51:54,759
Speaker 4: So great night. Nas is a fucking beast again. He

1065
00:51:55,560 --> 00:51:57,880
Speaker 4: you know when he fought at the garden, you know,

1066
00:51:58,000 --> 00:52:00,320
Speaker 4: he said, look, I just want my medicine. This is

1067
00:52:00,400 --> 00:52:04,319
Speaker 4: masson square gun. I want my uh tyson moment or whatever.

1068
00:52:04,360 --> 00:52:06,520
Speaker 4: I forget what he said, but he wanted his MSG moment.

1069
00:52:06,560 --> 00:52:09,360
Speaker 4: He got that, and I said, look, you're too technical,

1070
00:52:09,480 --> 00:52:12,200
Speaker 4: you don't have to fight like this. And then I

1071
00:52:12,320 --> 00:52:14,560
Speaker 4: think he got his Baku moment. Man, he went right

1072
00:52:14,680 --> 00:52:18,520
Speaker 4: back to you know, but you know it was crazy.

1073
00:52:18,920 --> 00:52:19,480
Speaker 2: It was crazy.

1074
00:52:19,680 --> 00:52:22,560
Speaker 6: Perhaps maybe not on the level of Morob versus what

1075
00:52:22,680 --> 00:52:25,320
Speaker 6: ice with that comeback, but you know he was in

1076
00:52:25,400 --> 00:52:27,640
Speaker 6: a little bit of trouble for sure, But then k

1077
00:52:27,880 --> 00:52:30,400
Speaker 6: back showed how technical and how dangerous he is.

1078
00:52:31,040 --> 00:52:32,640
Speaker 2: Uh, what was going on in your mind when you

1079
00:52:32,680 --> 00:52:33,520
Speaker 2: were watching that fight?

1080
00:52:34,160 --> 00:52:36,680
Speaker 4: Yeah, get off the fucking k you know he doesn't

1081
00:52:36,760 --> 00:52:39,640
Speaker 4: do that right. But I'm gonna say Morob was more

1082
00:52:39,719 --> 00:52:43,160
Speaker 4: hurt than than not. I think he took a body shot.

1083
00:52:43,480 --> 00:52:45,400
Speaker 4: But if you watch he he's got this. You know,

1084
00:52:45,520 --> 00:52:46,160
Speaker 4: he's rolling.

1085
00:52:46,280 --> 00:52:48,960
Speaker 2: Yeah, he threw He's not He's not.

1086
00:52:49,000 --> 00:52:51,439
Speaker 4: In trouble like that. The problem was does the ref

1087
00:52:51,560 --> 00:52:54,120
Speaker 4: know that? That was My issue is that dude, they

1088
00:52:54,200 --> 00:52:58,640
Speaker 4: stopped that fight. I would have been heartbroken. I would

1089
00:52:58,680 --> 00:53:01,560
Speaker 4: have really been heartbroken. That the issue to me, I

1090
00:53:01,600 --> 00:53:04,319
Speaker 4: don't think he was pretty obviously because he's looking away.

1091
00:53:04,360 --> 00:53:06,560
Speaker 4: He came back, but you know, you know you have

1092
00:53:06,680 --> 00:53:08,440
Speaker 4: We'll have to ask him. But you know, after the fight,

1093
00:53:08,760 --> 00:53:10,279
Speaker 4: I looked it was one time we got back to

1094
00:53:10,280 --> 00:53:13,160
Speaker 4: the hotel. We look at you just start laughing, you're

1095
00:53:13,200 --> 00:53:17,759
Speaker 4: fucking you're actually fucking crazy. Then I crazier than I thought,

1096
00:53:17,880 --> 00:53:20,320
Speaker 4: you know what I mean? But he I think he

1097
00:53:20,480 --> 00:53:23,600
Speaker 4: needs that to get going. He put him, he kind

1098
00:53:23,640 --> 00:53:26,560
Speaker 4: of put himself in that position. But you can't stay

1099
00:53:26,560 --> 00:53:29,800
Speaker 4: on the fence that long, even with uh, the rushing

1100
00:53:29,880 --> 00:53:32,480
Speaker 4: kid from Alpha Male. You know, he would he was

1101
00:53:32,600 --> 00:53:35,400
Speaker 4: firing back or for you know, he covered and then

1102
00:53:35,440 --> 00:53:39,040
Speaker 4: he'll come back and then yeah just at this, yeah yeah,

1103
00:53:39,280 --> 00:53:41,840
Speaker 4: sorry about that. But he this time, he stayed a

1104
00:53:41,960 --> 00:53:45,040
Speaker 4: little too long. Uh, And I think that's you know

1105
00:53:45,120 --> 00:53:46,800
Speaker 4: what I told him, all you stop with the fucking

1106
00:53:46,840 --> 00:53:48,239
Speaker 4: bullshit against the cage man.

1107
00:53:48,360 --> 00:53:50,400
Speaker 6: You know, are those that I mean, those are the

1108
00:53:50,480 --> 00:53:53,040
Speaker 6: kind of fights that kind of can build build you

1109
00:53:53,120 --> 00:53:53,680
Speaker 6: to a story.

1110
00:53:53,880 --> 00:53:55,440
Speaker 2: Do you think this is the beginning of what we're

1111
00:53:55,440 --> 00:53:56,279
Speaker 2: gonna see from Nas?

1112
00:53:56,760 --> 00:53:59,480
Speaker 4: I think so, Look at he's proven he kind of

1113
00:53:59,560 --> 00:54:02,400
Speaker 4: does that look you wanted to fight more. He's a

1114
00:54:02,600 --> 00:54:05,600
Speaker 4: really slick kid. If he wants to be great kicks,

1115
00:54:06,200 --> 00:54:08,480
Speaker 4: great hands, you know, he could be could rustle. He's

1116
00:54:08,480 --> 00:54:12,840
Speaker 4: got good hips. But I've been telling him this for

1117
00:54:12,920 --> 00:54:15,920
Speaker 4: a year. Yet, you don't have to do this. You

1118
00:54:16,040 --> 00:54:19,279
Speaker 4: could look great, you know, other ways. But when he

1119
00:54:19,480 --> 00:54:21,560
Speaker 4: does that type of ship, I can't say I'm not

1120
00:54:21,640 --> 00:54:25,719
Speaker 4: a fan. I mean, I'm I mean, it was just uplifting, man,

1121
00:54:25,760 --> 00:54:27,840
Speaker 4: you know what I mean. It's it's this rocky moment.

1122
00:54:28,360 --> 00:54:30,080
Speaker 4: But now he's had two or three of them. You know,

1123
00:54:30,160 --> 00:54:33,200
Speaker 4: he's said two of them. Uh, we'll see. I bet

1124
00:54:33,239 --> 00:54:36,080
Speaker 4: his next two fights you'll seem more technical nose. But

1125
00:54:36,120 --> 00:54:38,360
Speaker 4: if he has to go back and fight dirty in

1126
00:54:38,440 --> 00:54:41,800
Speaker 4: the pocket, he will fucking do it. Man. He's a

1127
00:54:41,920 --> 00:54:45,839
Speaker 4: fucking warrior, beautiful body shots. Uh, you know, he could

1128
00:54:45,880 --> 00:54:49,640
Speaker 4: do it all man. So it's just, uh, you know,

1129
00:54:49,719 --> 00:54:51,400
Speaker 4: I don't know what it was like looking at it

1130
00:54:51,520 --> 00:54:52,719
Speaker 4: on TV, but.

1131
00:54:52,880 --> 00:54:57,959
Speaker 5: Being there, it's just duxtaposition against the main event, which

1132
00:54:58,160 --> 00:55:01,319
Speaker 5: was lackluster ray in terms of.

1133
00:55:03,680 --> 00:55:05,759
Speaker 2: A lot. Yeah go ahead, no, go ahead, Yeah, but.

1134
00:55:05,800 --> 00:55:07,920
Speaker 4: Let me tell you it's funny. So when we get

1135
00:55:07,960 --> 00:55:09,839
Speaker 4: back to the hotel, because he really wanted to watch

1136
00:55:10,040 --> 00:55:13,160
Speaker 4: Physives fight, but they were throwing us out. So I

1137
00:55:13,239 --> 00:55:16,640
Speaker 4: think we catch that at the hotel. Oh yeah, we

1138
00:55:16,719 --> 00:55:18,520
Speaker 4: catch at the hotel by the time we get back.

1139
00:55:18,840 --> 00:55:20,600
Speaker 4: And then the main event comes on after that, and

1140
00:55:20,960 --> 00:55:22,680
Speaker 4: the first of all, I love Round Tree is the

1141
00:55:22,719 --> 00:55:24,800
Speaker 4: great guy, Jamal. I feel like I just bonded with

1142
00:55:25,160 --> 00:55:27,279
Speaker 4: and I hope he's home safe, which I'm sure he is.

1143
00:55:27,520 --> 00:55:30,239
Speaker 4: We would have hurt something, but he got stuck there.

1144
00:55:30,320 --> 00:55:33,279
Speaker 4: But after the first round, I go to nas like,

1145
00:55:33,440 --> 00:55:35,640
Speaker 4: you know what Dane is doing right now? He goes, right,

1146
00:55:35,920 --> 00:55:38,120
Speaker 4: he's writing to check for one hundred thousand for you,

1147
00:55:38,640 --> 00:55:40,719
Speaker 4: I said, and you could ask him. I said, he

1148
00:55:40,760 --> 00:55:42,520
Speaker 4: doesn't give you that one hundred thousand, I'll give you

1149
00:55:42,600 --> 00:55:45,400
Speaker 4: a thousand. I go, I'm willing. That's how sure I

1150
00:55:45,600 --> 00:55:47,120
Speaker 4: was you getting that one. I go, I'll give you

1151
00:55:47,200 --> 00:55:49,920
Speaker 4: a grand if you don't get that hundred thousand, because

1152
00:55:49,920 --> 00:55:51,719
Speaker 4: I knew that at that point that fight, I knew

1153
00:55:51,760 --> 00:55:54,560
Speaker 4: the other fights they couldn't go any other way, you

1154
00:55:54,640 --> 00:55:55,120
Speaker 4: know what I mean.

1155
00:55:55,280 --> 00:55:59,239
Speaker 2: So wow, I hope that audio is somewhere. So in

1156
00:55:59,440 --> 00:55:59,719
Speaker 2: terms of.

1157
00:56:02,360 --> 00:56:04,200
Speaker 5: Okay, got it all right? So in terms of that

1158
00:56:04,400 --> 00:56:09,000
Speaker 5: opening round, Ramon, I mean, I'm I am, I am.

1159
00:56:09,239 --> 00:56:11,640
Speaker 5: My jaw is completely draw. I don't know if I'm

1160
00:56:11,719 --> 00:56:14,480
Speaker 5: overstating this. I don't think it'll be maybe the fight

1161
00:56:14,560 --> 00:56:17,720
Speaker 5: of the year necessarily, there's probably one that's escaping me already.

1162
00:56:17,760 --> 00:56:23,000
Speaker 2: But Raymond Peter fucking long ago, bro, Like, I feel.

1163
00:56:22,800 --> 00:56:25,560
Speaker 5: Like, thank god you had the right referee in there

1164
00:56:25,600 --> 00:56:30,160
Speaker 5: who didn't stop the fight. And you know Nicholas Mota,

1165
00:56:32,080 --> 00:56:34,760
Speaker 5: well no, I mean, but he got the exercise little patience,

1166
00:56:34,800 --> 00:56:36,640
Speaker 5: young man, you know what I mean. Like I felt

1167
00:56:36,640 --> 00:56:38,600
Speaker 5: like if he just let it breathe for a second.

1168
00:56:38,600 --> 00:56:40,080
Speaker 5: You know, it's like me trying to eat French fries,

1169
00:56:40,120 --> 00:56:42,320
Speaker 5: one of the two hot. They don't taste good, you know,

1170
00:56:42,840 --> 00:56:44,160
Speaker 5: let it breathe a little.

1171
00:56:43,960 --> 00:56:46,000
Speaker 2: Bit, my man. And then I thought he could have

1172
00:56:46,080 --> 00:56:49,000
Speaker 2: knocked your guy out, you know, but my gosh, man.

1173
00:56:50,560 --> 00:56:53,040
Speaker 4: Yeah, John first of all now has a set of

1174
00:56:53,120 --> 00:56:57,520
Speaker 4: fucking whiskeys. Man. I don't think he might get knocked down.

1175
00:56:57,560 --> 00:56:59,480
Speaker 4: I don't know. He's got a really good chin. Man.

1176
00:56:59,800 --> 00:57:01,600
Speaker 4: I just don't want them to overuse it, you know

1177
00:57:01,640 --> 00:57:05,880
Speaker 4: what I mean. And I'll tell you I'm sure, and

1178
00:57:05,920 --> 00:57:08,120
Speaker 4: I'm sure John Woods in agreement with that, you know

1179
00:57:08,160 --> 00:57:09,880
Speaker 4: what I mean, Like you don't want to see it,

1180
00:57:09,960 --> 00:57:12,560
Speaker 4: but he could. The fact that he could do it,

1181
00:57:13,440 --> 00:57:15,360
Speaker 4: And you know, for all the guys out there that

1182
00:57:15,600 --> 00:57:19,200
Speaker 4: you know, maybe don't get knockouts or whatever, you got

1183
00:57:19,280 --> 00:57:21,520
Speaker 4: to put yourself in the old saying, ken, you got

1184
00:57:21,600 --> 00:57:23,560
Speaker 4: to put yourself in a position to get knocked out,

1185
00:57:23,600 --> 00:57:26,160
Speaker 4: to knock somebody out and he and he does it.

1186
00:57:26,520 --> 00:57:29,760
Speaker 4: He's the definition of that. He has no problem going

1187
00:57:29,880 --> 00:57:33,120
Speaker 4: right in the pocket, covering up, exchanging what you and

1188
00:57:33,240 --> 00:57:36,120
Speaker 4: he's good. He's goods combos are really crisp and uh,

1189
00:57:36,680 --> 00:57:39,320
Speaker 4: he's got a good chin. And he he beat that

1190
00:57:39,440 --> 00:57:42,240
Speaker 4: kid at his own game. Because I think everybody was

1191
00:57:42,280 --> 00:57:45,400
Speaker 4: in agreement. You know, I thought Nicholas was a tough kid,

1192
00:57:45,480 --> 00:57:47,880
Speaker 4: but kind of basic, you know, good two three three

1193
00:57:48,000 --> 00:57:50,840
Speaker 4: two whatever. Nas has way more than that. He's seen

1194
00:57:50,920 --> 00:57:53,800
Speaker 4: that a thousand times in the gym. But that kid

1195
00:57:53,960 --> 00:57:58,080
Speaker 4: really did bring it, and Nas actually then just beat

1196
00:57:58,160 --> 00:58:00,600
Speaker 4: him down at his own game. He broke He fucking

1197
00:58:00,640 --> 00:58:01,240
Speaker 4: broke a man.

1198
00:58:03,160 --> 00:58:09,120
Speaker 5: You can combine all factors Huaser Baijan and the coming

1199
00:58:09,200 --> 00:58:12,880
Speaker 5: back from adversity and just the skillful nature Kenny right,

1200
00:58:13,040 --> 00:58:15,640
Speaker 5: like am I like it's one thing to have? And

1201
00:58:15,840 --> 00:58:19,240
Speaker 5: again it reminded me in some respects of Dustin Pourrier

1202
00:58:19,320 --> 00:58:24,400
Speaker 5: against Dan Hooker. Just how much punishment can these like

1203
00:58:24,560 --> 00:58:27,400
Speaker 5: what am I I'm not a man, I'm watching I'm like,

1204
00:58:27,480 --> 00:58:29,480
Speaker 5: I'm not what these guys are. I'm not a woman,

1205
00:58:29,600 --> 00:58:35,360
Speaker 5: but I'm not a fucking man as I'm watching Nahs Oh,

1206
00:58:36,120 --> 00:58:38,880
Speaker 5: now joining us Pop on the Anakin Flora podcast, The

1207
00:58:38,960 --> 00:58:41,640
Speaker 5: Man of the Moment, The world is yours, my man,

1208
00:58:41,760 --> 00:58:43,720
Speaker 5: Nazim Sadakov, Where are you, my man?

1209
00:58:43,800 --> 00:58:47,600
Speaker 2: Are you back home? Where are you? I'm you're staying

1210
00:58:47,640 --> 00:58:48,480
Speaker 2: there for a little bit or what?

1211
00:58:49,360 --> 00:58:51,480
Speaker 4: Yeah, let's hope this, Let's hope this is by Gian

1212
00:58:51,560 --> 00:58:53,400
Speaker 4: your wife, I hold up, bro.

1213
00:58:54,080 --> 00:59:00,640
Speaker 5: Congratulations in terms of the skill level combined with the action,

1214
00:59:01,120 --> 00:59:04,560
Speaker 5: one of the best fights I have ever seen. I

1215
00:59:04,600 --> 00:59:07,720
Speaker 5: don't know how much you have slept ever since, but congratulations,

1216
00:59:07,840 --> 00:59:11,000
Speaker 5: my man, on on everything that you were able to do,

1217
00:59:11,080 --> 00:59:12,480
Speaker 5: and to do it in that building. It had to

1218
00:59:12,560 --> 00:59:14,720
Speaker 5: be as special as I would think, you know, very

1219
00:59:14,760 --> 00:59:16,240
Speaker 5: close to winning a world title, I would think in

1220
00:59:16,320 --> 00:59:16,920
Speaker 5: any respects.

1221
00:59:19,080 --> 00:59:22,360
Speaker 8: That's that's literally what That's literally what it felt like, John,

1222
00:59:22,400 --> 00:59:23,160
Speaker 8: You hit it on the head.

1223
00:59:23,200 --> 00:59:25,720
Speaker 4: It literally felt like winning the world title. So thank

1224
00:59:25,760 --> 00:59:29,840
Speaker 4: you so much. Man. It was like absolutely electric.

1225
00:59:30,080 --> 00:59:32,000
Speaker 9: I literally felt like I was hovering to the cage

1226
00:59:32,040 --> 00:59:34,360
Speaker 9: when I was walking out the fantains and everything.

1227
00:59:34,840 --> 00:59:37,800
Speaker 4: It just felt unreal but very real at the same time.

1228
00:59:37,920 --> 00:59:41,160
Speaker 2: You know, Na, it was an absolutely brilliant performance.

1229
00:59:41,240 --> 00:59:41,400
Speaker 1: Man.

1230
00:59:41,480 --> 00:59:44,200
Speaker 2: You know when Mota had you hurt at one point,

1231
00:59:44,520 --> 00:59:45,520
Speaker 2: how bad was.

1232
00:59:45,560 --> 00:59:49,080
Speaker 4: It is that my wife.

1233
00:59:49,200 --> 00:59:51,680
Speaker 7: Is that my connection that you guys keep breaking up

1234
00:59:51,720 --> 00:59:53,800
Speaker 7: like I hear you and then I think guys for like.

1235
00:59:53,840 --> 00:59:57,400
Speaker 2: A second, so you sound very clear to us.

1236
01:00:00,000 --> 01:00:03,560
Speaker 4: Okay, okay, so yeah, So I mean, did you ask

1237
01:00:03,640 --> 01:00:04,680
Speaker 4: how bad was I hurt?

1238
01:00:05,000 --> 01:00:06,240
Speaker 2: Yeah? How bad was it?

1239
01:00:07,800 --> 01:00:08,920
Speaker 7: It wasn't that bad.

1240
01:00:09,880 --> 01:00:10,320
Speaker 4: Obviously.

1241
01:00:10,440 --> 01:00:13,320
Speaker 9: He was unloading a barrage of powerful shots, so I

1242
01:00:13,400 --> 01:00:15,400
Speaker 9: didn't want to let up on the defense.

1243
01:00:16,000 --> 01:00:18,560
Speaker 7: At the same time, he hit me pretty nice to

1244
01:00:18,680 --> 01:00:21,800
Speaker 7: the liver. I was okay, but he hit me nice.

1245
01:00:21,920 --> 01:00:25,320
Speaker 4: I felt it. I definitely get definitely definitely put me

1246
01:00:25,400 --> 01:00:25,920
Speaker 4: on notice.

1247
01:00:26,400 --> 01:00:29,320
Speaker 9: Then he hit me once around to the head, and honestly,

1248
01:00:29,440 --> 01:00:32,040
Speaker 9: everything else was to the guard. I was seeing everything,

1249
01:00:32,120 --> 01:00:34,920
Speaker 9: I was conscious of everything. I didn't lose track, I

1250
01:00:35,000 --> 01:00:37,720
Speaker 9: didn't lose sight, not for one second. The thing that

1251
01:00:37,840 --> 01:00:38,840
Speaker 9: worried me the most.

1252
01:00:38,800 --> 01:00:39,440
Speaker 4: Was the referee.

1253
01:00:39,480 --> 01:00:41,720
Speaker 7: I saw him hesitate a few times, like I saw

1254
01:00:41,800 --> 01:00:42,800
Speaker 7: him hovered over us.

1255
01:00:43,520 --> 01:00:47,320
Speaker 9: So and I actually I actually went for a takedown

1256
01:00:47,440 --> 01:00:49,360
Speaker 9: to grab the legs, which ended up looking like a

1257
01:00:49,440 --> 01:00:53,680
Speaker 9: knockdown as well, because because of the barrage of like

1258
01:00:53,760 --> 01:00:54,680
Speaker 9: he never stopped throwing.

1259
01:00:54,840 --> 01:00:57,320
Speaker 7: He threw like a good seventy five punches straight.

1260
01:00:57,760 --> 01:00:57,840
Speaker 10: So.

1261
01:00:59,400 --> 01:01:02,080
Speaker 4: Yeah, those were like more of my worries was the referee.

1262
01:01:02,400 --> 01:01:04,200
Speaker 4: I didn't want it to be a stoppage. I didn't

1263
01:01:04,200 --> 01:01:05,160
Speaker 4: want him to intervene.

1264
01:01:05,880 --> 01:01:09,400
Speaker 7: So yeah, it was like I thought, to me, it

1265
01:01:09,440 --> 01:01:10,600
Speaker 7: felt like it was getting.

1266
01:01:10,360 --> 01:01:12,040
Speaker 9: To a close call, so I was trying to get

1267
01:01:12,120 --> 01:01:15,480
Speaker 9: myself together and do something to show that.

1268
01:01:15,520 --> 01:01:16,120
Speaker 4: I'm in the fight.

1269
01:01:16,680 --> 01:01:19,320
Speaker 11: But looking back at the tape, I didn't really look

1270
01:01:19,400 --> 01:01:22,360
Speaker 11: too out of it, but he definitely it definitely appeared

1271
01:01:22,400 --> 01:01:24,760
Speaker 11: that I was hurt and that he was like he

1272
01:01:25,640 --> 01:01:26,840
Speaker 11: was having his moments for sure.

1273
01:01:27,800 --> 01:01:30,800
Speaker 6: And now you know, I'm seeing a guy that's showing

1274
01:01:31,000 --> 01:01:35,680
Speaker 6: improvement and progress every single fight. How much more do

1275
01:01:36,280 --> 01:01:38,320
Speaker 6: you have to show relative to your potential?

1276
01:01:39,720 --> 01:01:43,920
Speaker 9: Honestly, I really, truly, I'm not just saying this because

1277
01:01:43,920 --> 01:01:46,240
Speaker 9: it's cliche to say. I really feel like I'm just

1278
01:01:46,280 --> 01:01:51,280
Speaker 9: getting started. I really feel like I'm starting something. I'm

1279
01:01:51,400 --> 01:01:54,040
Speaker 9: just at the start of something big. I also think

1280
01:01:54,080 --> 01:01:56,400
Speaker 9: things are gonna come out of nowhere and they're gonna

1281
01:01:56,440 --> 01:01:59,280
Speaker 9: come fast. And then Ray, when I just got signed

1282
01:01:59,320 --> 01:02:01,520
Speaker 9: to the Contenders, he looked at me and said, enjoy

1283
01:02:01,600 --> 01:02:02,680
Speaker 9: it because it's gonna fly by.

1284
01:02:02,760 --> 01:02:04,400
Speaker 7: I didn't really know what he meant, because I'm like,

1285
01:02:04,480 --> 01:02:06,920
Speaker 7: listen to twenty eight. I just got signed, I got

1286
01:02:07,000 --> 01:02:08,520
Speaker 7: my whole, I got like one.

1287
01:02:08,520 --> 01:02:09,520
Speaker 4: Hundred years ahead of me.

1288
01:02:10,120 --> 01:02:12,360
Speaker 9: These three years flew by fast, and a lot has

1289
01:02:12,400 --> 01:02:15,800
Speaker 9: happened since then, So I don't doubt that the next

1290
01:02:16,480 --> 01:02:19,000
Speaker 9: the next while is gonna come fast as well.

1291
01:02:19,120 --> 01:02:20,920
Speaker 7: But a lot of things are going to happen in between.

1292
01:02:21,920 --> 01:02:24,480
Speaker 7: With that being said, I feel like you're going to

1293
01:02:24,520 --> 01:02:26,560
Speaker 7: continue to see a better and better version of me.

1294
01:02:27,200 --> 01:02:31,320
Speaker 9: I'm not just a fighter. I'm I'm a I'm a thinker,

1295
01:02:31,400 --> 01:02:34,560
Speaker 9: I'm a I'm a technician in this game. So I

1296
01:02:35,080 --> 01:02:38,480
Speaker 9: absorb everything daily and I and I grow daily, and

1297
01:02:39,640 --> 01:02:41,280
Speaker 9: I think the best is yet to come. I don't

1298
01:02:41,280 --> 01:02:44,840
Speaker 9: even think I'm close. I literally think I'm five tenths

1299
01:02:44,880 --> 01:02:46,720
Speaker 9: of the way. They're four tenths of the way there.

1300
01:02:46,760 --> 01:02:48,720
Speaker 4: That's how I feel. Yeah, I think when you go

1301
01:02:48,840 --> 01:02:50,560
Speaker 4: back and look at the beginning, I think I hit

1302
01:02:50,640 --> 01:02:53,360
Speaker 4: on basically everything he's saying to like, you know, so

1303
01:02:53,520 --> 01:02:55,560
Speaker 4: that's it's good. But I want to I want to

1304
01:02:55,560 --> 01:02:57,480
Speaker 4: tell you funny theory now is that I didn't tell

1305
01:02:57,480 --> 01:03:01,720
Speaker 4: you When I ran into Fative at the airport, he

1306
01:03:01,920 --> 01:03:03,880
Speaker 4: was so excited for you, he said. Well, he was

1307
01:03:03,960 --> 01:03:06,680
Speaker 4: watching the fight. He goes, I just wanted to throw

1308
01:03:06,760 --> 01:03:14,400
Speaker 4: my whole fucking game plan out the window. No, no,

1309
01:03:14,640 --> 01:03:17,080
Speaker 4: I physive, he said. When he was watching the fight

1310
01:03:17,640 --> 01:03:19,400
Speaker 4: in the background, he goes, like, you wanted to throw

1311
01:03:19,480 --> 01:03:22,200
Speaker 4: my whole game plan out the window. But I go, Festige,

1312
01:03:22,240 --> 01:03:26,400
Speaker 4: that wasn't the fucking game plan though, I go, I said,

1313
01:03:26,440 --> 01:03:28,920
Speaker 4: he had You had your you had your g moment.

1314
01:03:29,000 --> 01:03:30,800
Speaker 4: Now you had your Bakum moment. Now you got to

1315
01:03:30,840 --> 01:03:33,200
Speaker 4: go back to you got to go back to being

1316
01:03:33,240 --> 01:03:34,920
Speaker 4: the technical wizard that you are.

1317
01:03:35,160 --> 01:03:35,720
Speaker 2: You know what I mean?

1318
01:03:36,040 --> 01:03:41,000
Speaker 4: We had Yeah, yeah, that's it. You gotta get in.

1319
01:03:41,520 --> 01:03:43,800
Speaker 12: You can't put him in big stuff. You just can't

1320
01:03:44,560 --> 01:03:46,800
Speaker 12: put me in the freaking apex if that's the case.

1321
01:03:48,480 --> 01:03:50,320
Speaker 12: You know, never in a million years did I think

1322
01:03:50,440 --> 01:03:54,840
Speaker 12: like I would I would be so unanimous with the bonuses.

1323
01:03:54,520 --> 01:03:57,600
Speaker 9: With the Physic on the card and then the car

1324
01:03:58,120 --> 01:04:01,560
Speaker 9: An oral by. You know, these are exciting names on

1325
01:04:01,640 --> 01:04:04,040
Speaker 9: the card, and it was just unanimous who took both

1326
01:04:04,160 --> 01:04:05,560
Speaker 9: bonuses before.

1327
01:04:05,320 --> 01:04:07,480
Speaker 4: The night was even over. Soro like that.

1328
01:04:08,080 --> 01:04:11,920
Speaker 7: That's an honor to me, That's a feat in itself

1329
01:04:11,960 --> 01:04:12,160
Speaker 7: to me.

1330
01:04:12,880 --> 01:04:15,960
Speaker 5: Bro I don't even think you understand what it was

1331
01:04:16,240 --> 01:04:19,840
Speaker 5: like to be sitting home watching what you did. I mean,

1332
01:04:20,960 --> 01:04:24,400
Speaker 5: it was unbelievable. Nazim Satakov with us live here on

1333
01:04:24,400 --> 01:04:27,120
Speaker 5: the Anakin Floran podcast. His coach Ray Longo is also

1334
01:04:27,240 --> 01:04:31,600
Speaker 5: with us. So I do want to ask journalistic questions

1335
01:04:31,680 --> 01:04:33,520
Speaker 5: of you, but I want you guys to sort of

1336
01:04:33,680 --> 01:04:36,320
Speaker 5: enjoy the fruits, right, because what I led with that

1337
01:04:36,720 --> 01:04:40,760
Speaker 5: winning the world title. You have spoken about that repeatedly, right,

1338
01:04:40,840 --> 01:04:43,840
Speaker 5: and it almost sounds Dwallish Willie esque as you sort

1339
01:04:43,880 --> 01:04:47,920
Speaker 5: of speak it into existence, right, But I just hope

1340
01:04:48,240 --> 01:04:50,200
Speaker 5: that you sort of you know, who knows we went

1341
01:04:50,240 --> 01:04:52,640
Speaker 5: to Russia in twenty nineteen. We haven't been back. You know,

1342
01:04:53,160 --> 01:04:55,640
Speaker 5: this seemed to be a hugely special live event. But

1343
01:04:55,720 --> 01:04:58,040
Speaker 5: I hope you can just live in this for as

1344
01:04:58,120 --> 01:05:01,200
Speaker 5: long as possible because seemingly it couldn't happen to a

1345
01:05:01,280 --> 01:05:03,520
Speaker 5: better guy, and you just don't know how many moments

1346
01:05:03,920 --> 01:05:04,800
Speaker 5: are gonna top this.

1347
01:05:07,000 --> 01:05:10,720
Speaker 8: Yeah, like I told you, guys, like I agreed with you,

1348
01:05:10,880 --> 01:05:13,920
Speaker 8: this was a world title to me. This means the

1349
01:05:14,000 --> 01:05:18,040
Speaker 8: world to me, and you know, obviously I look for

1350
01:05:18,200 --> 01:05:20,600
Speaker 8: even bigger things, like I want to go as far

1351
01:05:20,640 --> 01:05:22,240
Speaker 8: as to say that I'm going to defend the belt

1352
01:05:22,280 --> 01:05:27,720
Speaker 8: here one day. But I if this, if literally I

1353
01:05:27,840 --> 01:05:32,720
Speaker 8: never fight again. I fought an MSG fight they.

1354
01:05:33,920 --> 01:05:37,320
Speaker 9: I fought in Vaku for the first ever event in

1355
01:05:37,440 --> 01:05:40,280
Speaker 9: a random ass place like oser by John, like my

1356
01:05:40,520 --> 01:05:42,200
Speaker 9: entire like time in the US, like.

1357
01:05:42,200 --> 01:05:45,080
Speaker 7: I'm telling people like where'd you come from?

1358
01:05:46,560 --> 01:05:47,800
Speaker 4: Observe? But what awhere?

1359
01:05:49,960 --> 01:05:55,360
Speaker 7: Your friend over here Ray included he thought I was

1360
01:05:55,400 --> 01:05:56,440
Speaker 7: casting a spell on him.

1361
01:05:58,240 --> 01:06:00,480
Speaker 4: I thought he would tell me that the bringing the

1362
01:06:00,600 --> 01:06:03,480
Speaker 4: uor to as you not.

1363
01:06:05,160 --> 01:06:05,880
Speaker 3: I didn't believe that.

1364
01:06:05,960 --> 01:06:06,840
Speaker 4: I never believed it.

1365
01:06:07,960 --> 01:06:08,800
Speaker 2: So awesome.

1366
01:06:09,040 --> 01:06:12,520
Speaker 5: Anyone who follows you on Instagram at nas Underscore mma

1367
01:06:12,720 --> 01:06:16,600
Speaker 5: knows that your left foot is a balloon, right, I

1368
01:06:16,640 --> 01:06:18,680
Speaker 5: mean not a scratch on your face. I know your

1369
01:06:18,760 --> 01:06:22,360
Speaker 5: ears a little bit compromised, and your liver. You said

1370
01:06:22,440 --> 01:06:25,240
Speaker 5: you almost threw up your own liver. But how are

1371
01:06:25,320 --> 01:06:28,400
Speaker 5: you physically after a fight that, at the very least

1372
01:06:28,440 --> 01:06:29,680
Speaker 5: I think is going to hold up as one of

1373
01:06:29,720 --> 01:06:30,640
Speaker 5: the top five of the year.

1374
01:06:32,520 --> 01:06:36,680
Speaker 9: Uh, Honestly, I'm fine, and I know my own trajectory

1375
01:06:36,760 --> 01:06:39,080
Speaker 9: at this point. I know how I recover, how long

1376
01:06:39,400 --> 01:06:42,720
Speaker 9: certain things take. I'll probably back in training like in

1377
01:06:42,840 --> 01:06:47,000
Speaker 9: two weeks, maybe not necessarily sparring, but I'm definitely gonna

1378
01:06:47,000 --> 01:06:48,000
Speaker 9: grapple in two weeks.

1379
01:06:48,160 --> 01:06:49,680
Speaker 4: I'm definitely, uh.

1380
01:06:49,760 --> 01:06:52,160
Speaker 9: Definitely going to be lifting maybe at the end of

1381
01:06:52,240 --> 01:06:55,920
Speaker 9: this week, grappling by by next week. So I'm fine, man,

1382
01:06:56,200 --> 01:06:59,760
Speaker 9: Like nothing major at all, and thank God for that.

1383
01:06:59,840 --> 01:07:01,840
Speaker 9: You know, I'm feeling good.

1384
01:07:02,600 --> 01:07:05,120
Speaker 5: So Ken Flow fought for the belt twice in this

1385
01:07:05,320 --> 01:07:08,400
Speaker 5: UFC lightweight division, so he and I are always going

1386
01:07:08,480 --> 01:07:10,480
Speaker 5: to suggest that one hundred and fifty five pounds is

1387
01:07:10,520 --> 01:07:13,720
Speaker 5: the hardest division in which to get things done in

1388
01:07:13,880 --> 01:07:16,760
Speaker 5: the UFC. But now you're in position, my man, if

1389
01:07:16,760 --> 01:07:19,040
Speaker 5: you weren't before, Like, now you're in position to call

1390
01:07:19,120 --> 01:07:21,000
Speaker 5: your shot for more reasons than one.

1391
01:07:21,200 --> 01:07:23,080
Speaker 2: Right, It's not just that you know you're on.

1392
01:07:23,160 --> 01:07:25,320
Speaker 5: The cusp of the top fifteen, right, but the way

1393
01:07:25,440 --> 01:07:28,480
Speaker 5: you've done it has massively resonated with people.

1394
01:07:28,640 --> 01:07:30,080
Speaker 2: So what is next?

1395
01:07:30,160 --> 01:07:32,920
Speaker 5: What is the timeline? And uh, you know, not to

1396
01:07:33,000 --> 01:07:34,920
Speaker 5: be that guy, but if there is a name or two,

1397
01:07:35,040 --> 01:07:35,680
Speaker 5: we would take that.

1398
01:07:37,080 --> 01:07:39,280
Speaker 7: Oh, first of all, let me reposition myself.

1399
01:07:39,280 --> 01:07:41,440
Speaker 2: I I feel like the light or whatever's in the

1400
01:07:41,480 --> 01:07:45,160
Speaker 2: weight there is, is that better? Is yeah?

1401
01:07:45,200 --> 01:07:45,360
Speaker 4: Better?

1402
01:07:45,720 --> 01:07:49,480
Speaker 2: It's better? Good position my section there we.

1403
01:07:49,520 --> 01:07:51,520
Speaker 13: Do so.

1404
01:07:53,080 --> 01:07:56,840
Speaker 9: Calling my shot, I'm going to say the earliest date

1405
01:07:56,960 --> 01:07:59,919
Speaker 9: if Ben was Saint Denis needs a dance part of prepare.

1406
01:08:00,680 --> 01:08:03,280
Speaker 7: The UFC has put me the UFCS.

1407
01:08:04,920 --> 01:08:06,920
Speaker 9: Yeah, the UFC has put me as a hometown hero

1408
01:08:07,240 --> 01:08:10,919
Speaker 9: in my country for for this event, I'll go play

1409
01:08:11,000 --> 01:08:13,880
Speaker 9: villain in Paris. If that'd be the earliest i'd be

1410
01:08:13,920 --> 01:08:16,720
Speaker 9: able to get back. If not, maybe somewhere on the

1411
01:08:16,800 --> 01:08:20,680
Speaker 9: card with Morob I'll play villain on the Mexican Independence

1412
01:08:20,800 --> 01:08:25,639
Speaker 9: Day and go Mexican for Mexican. With Manuel Torres, I'll go, uh.

1413
01:08:27,439 --> 01:08:27,639
Speaker 4: Yeah.

1414
01:08:27,680 --> 01:08:30,280
Speaker 9: And then and then I think, you know, like these

1415
01:08:30,320 --> 01:08:32,519
Speaker 9: are two names that just come into mind right away.

1416
01:08:33,280 --> 01:08:36,600
Speaker 9: Maybe some some veterans as well. I want to I

1417
01:08:36,680 --> 01:08:38,880
Speaker 9: want to get finally get that all I've been fighting

1418
01:08:39,000 --> 01:08:41,640
Speaker 9: is like up and coming prospect guys. I would like

1419
01:08:41,760 --> 01:08:44,800
Speaker 9: to fight somebody that's been in the game for a while,

1420
01:08:44,840 --> 01:08:47,080
Speaker 9: that has seen it all, that that can weather my

1421
01:08:47,200 --> 01:08:51,120
Speaker 9: storms and and give it back. Michael Johnson comes.

1422
01:08:50,960 --> 01:08:54,719
Speaker 7: To mind, Bobby Green comes to mind. Uh diego for Fajeda.

1423
01:08:54,800 --> 01:08:56,920
Speaker 9: I don't know if the book, by the way, no clue,

1424
01:08:57,200 --> 01:08:59,880
Speaker 9: but these guys come to mind as well. Six Scrap

1425
01:09:00,080 --> 01:09:03,840
Speaker 9: for me stylistically, so I'm kind of open to kind

1426
01:09:03,880 --> 01:09:07,439
Speaker 9: of open to different scenarios. So yeah, the earliest i'd

1427
01:09:07,479 --> 01:09:10,720
Speaker 9: be back is go play villain in Paris. The the

1428
01:09:11,920 --> 01:09:14,080
Speaker 9: other than that, I would probably try to get on

1429
01:09:14,160 --> 01:09:16,799
Speaker 9: a card with Morob. Doing camp with him is awesome,

1430
01:09:16,960 --> 01:09:19,479
Speaker 9: so I try to get it on a card with

1431
01:09:19,600 --> 01:09:23,240
Speaker 9: Morob as well. That's probably the October November, I'm assuming,

1432
01:09:23,360 --> 01:09:24,840
Speaker 9: So yeah, something like that.

1433
01:09:25,600 --> 01:09:28,479
Speaker 2: Well, Raye just wants to go as far as possible, So.

1434
01:09:32,720 --> 01:09:34,960
Speaker 4: That was I just want to get I want to

1435
01:09:35,040 --> 01:09:36,880
Speaker 4: get to Italy again. And I'd be honest with it

1436
01:09:37,000 --> 01:09:40,080
Speaker 4: was crazy. They started changing everybody's flights. Man, it was nuts,

1437
01:09:40,760 --> 01:09:44,240
Speaker 4: you know. So they he doesn't he's not reacting to

1438
01:09:44,320 --> 01:09:47,599
Speaker 4: that because this is normal to him. There's nothing going.

1439
01:09:47,400 --> 01:09:47,920
Speaker 2: On for me.

1440
01:09:48,040 --> 01:09:49,720
Speaker 4: It was different. You know.

1441
01:09:49,960 --> 01:09:52,880
Speaker 9: This this this, these wars and these bombs and these

1442
01:09:52,960 --> 01:09:55,120
Speaker 9: missiles are just like a way of life. It's it's

1443
01:09:55,160 --> 01:09:58,120
Speaker 9: like brushing your teeth, You brush your teeth Rocket pot By.

1444
01:09:58,120 --> 01:10:00,639
Speaker 9: It's like a normally not in not in he it particularly,

1445
01:10:00,760 --> 01:10:03,519
Speaker 9: but like a zebra Jhan and all this this entire

1446
01:10:03,600 --> 01:10:05,679
Speaker 9: region is just hot. It just it was just made

1447
01:10:05,720 --> 01:10:08,280
Speaker 9: hot like that. It's not like America. We're so lucky

1448
01:10:08,320 --> 01:10:10,120
Speaker 9: in America, like we just we just live in peace

1449
01:10:10,160 --> 01:10:11,720
Speaker 9: and we don't even know what a rocket looks like.

1450
01:10:13,720 --> 01:10:18,080
Speaker 9: These things is like, oh, hit Iran, Iran, hit this place,

1451
01:10:18,160 --> 01:10:20,720
Speaker 9: and this place, hit that place. It's like it's just

1452
01:10:20,840 --> 01:10:22,000
Speaker 9: normal on the news over there.

1453
01:10:22,360 --> 01:10:23,240
Speaker 4: Crazy yea.

1454
01:10:23,760 --> 01:10:26,040
Speaker 5: So now that you're out the other side of the fight,

1455
01:10:26,320 --> 01:10:29,320
Speaker 5: have you been able to witness and maybe you were

1456
01:10:29,360 --> 01:10:31,599
Speaker 5: able to let some of this in during fight week

1457
01:10:31,800 --> 01:10:36,679
Speaker 5: just how enamored people were with Baku And it must

1458
01:10:36,720 --> 01:10:39,639
Speaker 5: be cool for you to see people say, my gosh,

1459
01:10:39,680 --> 01:10:43,160
Speaker 5: I didn't realize this city and this country was this special.

1460
01:10:43,280 --> 01:10:43,439
Speaker 4: You know.

1461
01:10:44,880 --> 01:10:47,360
Speaker 7: That was the That was the whole thing about me

1462
01:10:47,720 --> 01:10:49,679
Speaker 7: showing my culture, like where.

1463
01:10:49,520 --> 01:10:51,599
Speaker 9: I came from, and you know, like I'm like, I'm

1464
01:10:51,680 --> 01:10:56,080
Speaker 9: I'm American, you know, but in that standard, I'm like

1465
01:10:56,160 --> 01:11:00,519
Speaker 9: American at this point, but like you know, by Johnny

1466
01:11:00,520 --> 01:11:03,800
Speaker 9: and me always wanted to show that part of the

1467
01:11:03,880 --> 01:11:06,120
Speaker 9: world because nobody knows where I come from. So for

1468
01:11:06,320 --> 01:11:09,120
Speaker 9: the UFC, one of the biggest PR machines in the world,

1469
01:11:09,640 --> 01:11:13,320
Speaker 9: one of the most famous, most like biggest things that

1470
01:11:14,200 --> 01:11:17,280
Speaker 9: can have an event in observe BYI john Ford to

1471
01:11:17,360 --> 01:11:20,080
Speaker 9: come there. And then for the staff, all the lovely

1472
01:11:20,120 --> 01:11:23,840
Speaker 9: staff at the Pi Ray. I've been telling Ray about this,

1473
01:11:24,040 --> 01:11:25,439
Speaker 9: like dreaming of him to be there.

1474
01:11:26,120 --> 01:11:28,680
Speaker 7: Uh, you know, like for for all these people to

1475
01:11:28,800 --> 01:11:29,960
Speaker 7: come and say, Wow, this.

1476
01:11:30,080 --> 01:11:32,120
Speaker 4: Place is beautiful. This place is gorgeous.

1477
01:11:32,120 --> 01:11:34,719
Speaker 9: The food is so delicious, the people are so beautiful,

1478
01:11:34,960 --> 01:11:36,200
Speaker 9: the culture is so amazing.

1479
01:11:36,760 --> 01:11:37,200
Speaker 4: Oh wow.

1480
01:11:37,280 --> 01:11:39,960
Speaker 7: I really loved the old I love I loved each

1481
01:11:40,080 --> 01:11:41,200
Speaker 7: edish I had of the old city.

1482
01:11:41,479 --> 01:11:43,439
Speaker 4: I love the white houses, I love this. I love that.

1483
01:11:43,760 --> 01:11:46,439
Speaker 7: So for them to say this was literally my dream.

1484
01:11:46,800 --> 01:11:48,400
Speaker 7: And that's why I'm in agreement with you.

1485
01:11:48,640 --> 01:11:51,080
Speaker 9: Like this was a world title because the world title

1486
01:11:51,640 --> 01:11:53,479
Speaker 9: is like, it doesn't get any better than that.

1487
01:11:53,640 --> 01:11:55,800
Speaker 4: When you win a world title, all attention is on you.

1488
01:11:56,439 --> 01:11:58,799
Speaker 7: So this time, all attention was on Baku.

1489
01:11:59,640 --> 01:12:02,080
Speaker 4: And uh, that's what I prayed for, our dreams for

1490
01:12:02,160 --> 01:12:02,600
Speaker 4: days like this.

1491
01:12:03,479 --> 01:12:04,280
Speaker 2: Well, and I.

1492
01:12:04,520 --> 01:12:08,759
Speaker 4: Already gave it a shout out, but pronounce Aswan's Restaurant

1493
01:12:08,800 --> 01:12:10,840
Speaker 4: again because I probably screwed that up. It was a

1494
01:12:10,920 --> 01:12:15,479
Speaker 4: fantastic place. And again, guys, these people are they are

1495
01:12:15,560 --> 01:12:18,360
Speaker 4: beautiful people. It's a beautiful city. I got treated like

1496
01:12:19,080 --> 01:12:20,960
Speaker 4: like a king. As far as I'm concerned, you know,

1497
01:12:21,040 --> 01:12:24,639
Speaker 4: even you know, well Goon drives us around, you know, Moosa,

1498
01:12:24,760 --> 01:12:27,160
Speaker 4: he did it. But whatever anybody could do. These guys

1499
01:12:27,200 --> 01:12:30,040
Speaker 4: that just nice people. I'll always be indebted to him

1500
01:12:30,080 --> 01:12:32,519
Speaker 4: because when you're far away from home and you're not

1501
01:12:32,600 --> 01:12:35,920
Speaker 4: it's not your culture to be embraced the way I

1502
01:12:36,040 --> 01:12:38,960
Speaker 4: was embraced. Yeah, I promise I'll give that back when

1503
01:12:38,960 --> 01:12:40,760
Speaker 4: these guys are in New York. I mean, it's just

1504
01:12:40,880 --> 01:12:43,920
Speaker 4: it's a it just was a great feeling, it really was.

1505
01:12:44,040 --> 01:12:47,040
Speaker 4: But pronounce that restaurant I had. It was the name

1506
01:12:47,080 --> 01:12:48,559
Speaker 4: of the restaurant. It's called.

1507
01:12:51,800 --> 01:12:57,679
Speaker 9: It's it's like Azerbaijohnny Turkish cuisine mix and uh yeah,

1508
01:12:57,840 --> 01:13:00,360
Speaker 9: it's delicious. Guys to be my guests if we ever

1509
01:13:00,439 --> 01:13:02,360
Speaker 9: come back out here again, or you guys want to

1510
01:13:02,400 --> 01:13:06,400
Speaker 9: come out here like on your own, uh and you

1511
01:13:06,479 --> 01:13:08,760
Speaker 9: guys want to like explore and stuff, please let me know.

1512
01:13:08,880 --> 01:13:11,040
Speaker 9: And I'd love to hook you guys up and show

1513
01:13:11,040 --> 01:13:13,000
Speaker 9: you guys around and hook you guys up with.

1514
01:13:13,000 --> 01:13:15,720
Speaker 4: A bunch of places out there. And the food was

1515
01:13:15,800 --> 01:13:19,320
Speaker 4: fantastic and now Asalan and his brother would just it's

1516
01:13:19,360 --> 01:13:22,400
Speaker 4: just it's just it's really nice people. You know, you

1517
01:13:22,520 --> 01:13:24,960
Speaker 4: get to my age. Man, you really appreciate things you

1518
01:13:25,040 --> 01:13:27,560
Speaker 4: don't appreciate when you're younger. You take a lot of

1519
01:13:27,600 --> 01:13:31,559
Speaker 4: shift for granted. But again, I love meeting new people,

1520
01:13:31,760 --> 01:13:35,439
Speaker 4: and I love people, you know, treating you good, you

1521
01:13:35,600 --> 01:13:37,519
Speaker 4: treat them good. It's it's it was a it was

1522
01:13:37,560 --> 01:13:40,519
Speaker 4: a really good feeling. You know. The hospitality is a

1523
01:13:40,600 --> 01:13:42,840
Speaker 4: must out here. This is I don't know, no question

1524
01:13:43,000 --> 01:13:46,280
Speaker 4: about the culture. Yeah, even if I wasn't sure, they

1525
01:13:46,320 --> 01:13:49,519
Speaker 4: were rushing everybody, changing everybody's flights because what was going

1526
01:13:49,560 --> 01:13:51,720
Speaker 4: on in the world. And I'm like, holy, I really

1527
01:13:51,720 --> 01:13:53,240
Speaker 4: don't want to get stuck here because I you know,

1528
01:13:53,280 --> 01:13:55,720
Speaker 4: I got family and stuff back home. But I know

1529
01:13:55,800 --> 01:13:58,280
Speaker 4: if I got stuck there, it wasn't really a problem.

1530
01:13:58,360 --> 01:14:01,320
Speaker 4: I mean, yeah, no, you know what I mean, like

1531
01:14:01,439 --> 01:14:05,280
Speaker 4: that that you are you know, I'm not talking like that.

1532
01:14:05,400 --> 01:14:07,680
Speaker 4: They're just good people and that has nothing to do

1533
01:14:07,760 --> 01:14:09,640
Speaker 4: with who I am. I could be and nobody and

1534
01:14:09,680 --> 01:14:11,439
Speaker 4: I'm sure they would have treated me the same way.

1535
01:14:12,240 --> 01:14:15,040
Speaker 7: I promise you, I promise you that is the case.

1536
01:14:15,520 --> 01:14:17,400
Speaker 4: Yeah, one hundred percent. Now I could tell him if

1537
01:14:17,400 --> 01:14:18,120
Speaker 4: I felt.

1538
01:14:17,920 --> 01:14:20,040
Speaker 7: It, you know what I mean, just just you being

1539
01:14:20,080 --> 01:14:23,400
Speaker 7: a foreigner alone they'll want you to know them.

1540
01:14:23,960 --> 01:14:28,799
Speaker 4: Yeah, it's a weird feeling. John's a really weird feeling

1541
01:14:28,840 --> 01:14:32,240
Speaker 4: because you know, you do feel like out of place

1542
01:14:32,400 --> 01:14:34,639
Speaker 4: a little bit, you know, but you're not. You're never

1543
01:14:35,320 --> 01:14:37,920
Speaker 4: out of love. Like it's it's it's it's a crazy feeling.

1544
01:14:38,000 --> 01:14:41,240
Speaker 4: But it was really really special and so I knew this.

1545
01:14:41,479 --> 01:14:45,400
Speaker 4: I knew nas just dreamed that it's maybe ever since

1546
01:14:45,439 --> 01:14:47,000
Speaker 4: I met him, you know what I mean. And just

1547
01:14:47,200 --> 01:14:50,000
Speaker 4: why don't you come to fruition And even for his father,

1548
01:14:50,080 --> 01:14:53,400
Speaker 4: who now you know, I love a zem I mean,

1549
01:14:53,479 --> 01:14:56,400
Speaker 4: he just he's just a soul to the earth type

1550
01:14:56,439 --> 01:14:58,599
Speaker 4: of guy. Again, I would do anything for him. He's

1551
01:14:58,680 --> 01:15:02,640
Speaker 4: just a he's just do anything. But you know, you know,

1552
01:15:02,720 --> 01:15:05,720
Speaker 4: he's just a great soul. You know that, you know, uh,

1553
01:15:06,840 --> 01:15:08,800
Speaker 4: And he shoots from the hip, you know what I mean.

1554
01:15:08,880 --> 01:15:12,240
Speaker 4: He's just to want him see the excitement, you know,

1555
01:15:12,600 --> 01:15:14,040
Speaker 4: of his son doing what he did.

1556
01:15:14,200 --> 01:15:15,559
Speaker 2: And like again, these are.

1557
01:15:15,520 --> 01:15:17,720
Speaker 4: People that are really proud of their culture. It's just

1558
01:15:17,840 --> 01:15:20,320
Speaker 4: it was it was a really special time.

1559
01:15:20,400 --> 01:15:22,560
Speaker 9: It really was only he was if only he was

1560
01:15:22,640 --> 01:15:24,599
Speaker 9: a sweet soul to me when I got bad grades

1561
01:15:24,640 --> 01:15:27,679
Speaker 9: in school, that's.

1562
01:15:27,680 --> 01:15:29,840
Speaker 4: What you know, what I like, I like when we

1563
01:15:29,960 --> 01:15:32,760
Speaker 4: were have to breakfast John? Now is that sunglasses on it?

1564
01:15:32,840 --> 01:15:36,639
Speaker 4: Smaller tone? Take the sunglasses? He just he doesn't. He's

1565
01:15:36,680 --> 01:15:39,479
Speaker 4: not arguing with him. They got a great relationship. It

1566
01:15:40,439 --> 01:15:42,479
Speaker 4: like I'm at a different spot in my life, you know.

1567
01:15:42,600 --> 01:15:44,759
Speaker 4: Like again, if I was twenty five or his age,

1568
01:15:45,240 --> 01:15:47,240
Speaker 4: this should probably wouldn't even mean anything to me. You know,

1569
01:15:47,479 --> 01:15:50,200
Speaker 4: you know, you take everything for grad was a fucking imbecile,

1570
01:15:50,320 --> 01:15:53,680
Speaker 4: like you know, but as you get older, you appreciate

1571
01:15:54,040 --> 01:15:56,880
Speaker 4: the little things in life, and those little things are

1572
01:15:57,400 --> 01:15:57,840
Speaker 4: for sure.

1573
01:15:58,160 --> 01:16:01,360
Speaker 5: No, I remember when I first experienced hospitality in Abu Dhabi.

1574
01:16:01,439 --> 01:16:04,280
Speaker 5: I was effectively blown away. But no, as hopefully at

1575
01:16:04,360 --> 01:16:07,160
Speaker 5: some point we can make our way to Azerbaijan. I

1576
01:16:07,240 --> 01:16:09,600
Speaker 5: did find myself wishing that I was there as I

1577
01:16:09,680 --> 01:16:11,439
Speaker 5: was watching that live event play out. And I can't

1578
01:16:11,439 --> 01:16:13,559
Speaker 5: even imagine what it's like for a father to watch

1579
01:16:13,600 --> 01:16:16,080
Speaker 5: his son do that. I know you're making the rounds today,

1580
01:16:16,120 --> 01:16:18,800
Speaker 5: so we want to respect your time. Congratulations brother, We

1581
01:16:18,880 --> 01:16:20,920
Speaker 5: appreciate you carving out a few minutes for us, and

1582
01:16:21,080 --> 01:16:23,439
Speaker 5: UH look forward to shaking your hand and congratulating you

1583
01:16:23,520 --> 01:16:26,680
Speaker 5: in person. And if it's not Paris, we we very

1584
01:16:26,760 --> 01:16:29,040
Speaker 5: much look forward to the return later this year, whenever

1585
01:16:29,080 --> 01:16:29,479
Speaker 5: it may come.

1586
01:16:29,560 --> 01:16:32,519
Speaker 7: Brother, Thank you guys, thank you so much for having me.

1587
01:16:32,720 --> 01:16:33,519
Speaker 4: See you guys soon.

1588
01:16:34,160 --> 01:16:36,920
Speaker 2: Congrats. Man, whoa there he is.

1589
01:16:37,680 --> 01:16:39,880
Speaker 4: I enjoy it and I know you all enjoyed that.

1590
01:16:40,040 --> 01:16:42,320
Speaker 4: So as of now, how many times have you watched

1591
01:16:42,320 --> 01:16:44,759
Speaker 4: the fight? Under a role the five hundred?

1592
01:16:46,400 --> 01:16:48,320
Speaker 7: I didn't hit the five hundred mark, but I'm definitely

1593
01:16:48,320 --> 01:16:49,519
Speaker 7: over four fifty for sure.

1594
01:16:51,280 --> 01:16:53,640
Speaker 5: I'm gonna go watch it after we finish wrapping. Thank you,

1595
01:16:54,280 --> 01:16:55,040
Speaker 5: enjoy your day.

1596
01:16:55,600 --> 01:16:57,800
Speaker 4: Take care guys, but I'll come take it easy.

1597
01:16:58,000 --> 01:16:59,559
Speaker 2: There he is in the same Sadakov with us here

1598
01:16:59,560 --> 01:17:01,040
Speaker 2: on the Anne Florian podcasts.

1599
01:17:01,200 --> 01:17:05,439
Speaker 4: Ray, you could see, you could see how well he

1600
01:17:05,520 --> 01:17:07,599
Speaker 4: speaks to He's an intelligent kid. Man.

1601
01:17:08,000 --> 01:17:09,640
Speaker 2: Oh, he's the man. Here's the man.

1602
01:17:10,720 --> 01:17:10,880
Speaker 4: Ray.

1603
01:17:11,920 --> 01:17:14,000
Speaker 2: We got Brian Petrie coming up in a few minutes.

1604
01:17:14,040 --> 01:17:17,880
Speaker 4: Would you rather Oh my god, I'd rather be whole?

1605
01:17:18,000 --> 01:17:18,320
Speaker 4: That's right?

1606
01:17:20,360 --> 01:17:22,080
Speaker 2: Is that what you would think I was gonna say?

1607
01:17:22,080 --> 01:17:25,360
Speaker 2: Would you rather talk about Raphael Phazee or go Jesus?

1608
01:17:25,479 --> 01:17:27,759
Speaker 4: Oh no, no I'm not. I'm I got no pleap

1609
01:17:27,800 --> 01:17:28,439
Speaker 4: to go? All right?

1610
01:17:28,680 --> 01:17:30,960
Speaker 5: I mean, yeah, I have some Would you rather sweat,

1611
01:17:31,080 --> 01:17:32,840
Speaker 5: mayonnaise or cry ketch up.

1612
01:17:37,280 --> 01:17:37,639
Speaker 2: I can't.

1613
01:17:38,040 --> 01:17:40,880
Speaker 4: I'm too sleep deprived. I can't do this. But was the.

1614
01:17:42,680 --> 01:17:45,200
Speaker 2: Hey, would you rather have hands for feet or feet

1615
01:17:45,280 --> 01:17:45,799
Speaker 2: for hands?

1616
01:17:45,920 --> 01:17:52,360
Speaker 4: Right? I'd rather I want to talk about I thought

1617
01:17:52,479 --> 01:17:52,840
Speaker 4: we will.

1618
01:17:53,400 --> 01:17:55,280
Speaker 2: I'm just teasing these for next week.

1619
01:17:56,120 --> 01:18:00,640
Speaker 5: Rather fight spiders or snakes, Rather cows be purple or

1620
01:18:00,760 --> 01:18:01,759
Speaker 5: cats be huge?

1621
01:18:02,560 --> 01:18:05,080
Speaker 2: I mean, would rather have a Sorry?

1622
01:18:05,760 --> 01:18:09,599
Speaker 4: Did you? Actually? You are spending time thinking? Somebody?

1623
01:18:10,560 --> 01:18:11,880
Speaker 2: You know what? You know what?

1624
01:18:12,200 --> 01:18:14,720
Speaker 5: We don't have a TV deal for this podcast for

1625
01:18:14,840 --> 01:18:17,000
Speaker 5: twenty twenty six, so someone's got to put in some

1626
01:18:17,160 --> 01:18:18,320
Speaker 5: sweat equity at all.

1627
01:18:18,400 --> 01:18:20,680
Speaker 4: Right, Well that's what you do. You definitely put in

1628
01:18:20,760 --> 01:18:22,640
Speaker 4: the Sweat's no question about that.

1629
01:18:24,800 --> 01:18:31,040
Speaker 5: Rafaelhaz Bro, what an absolute joy it is to watch him,

1630
01:18:31,240 --> 01:18:33,559
Speaker 5: right almost I don't know if he's micro dosent on mushroom,

1631
01:18:33,600 --> 01:18:35,640
Speaker 5: seeing every shot coming back in his head out of

1632
01:18:35,640 --> 01:18:39,200
Speaker 5: the way like he's the matrix offense defense, just a

1633
01:18:39,320 --> 01:18:42,400
Speaker 5: special special fighter. And I don't want to take anything

1634
01:18:42,400 --> 01:18:45,360
Speaker 5: away from Justin Gatchee's win over him. He beat him twice, right,

1635
01:18:45,439 --> 01:18:49,280
Speaker 5: but a full camp Rafael Phazeve on this night was

1636
01:18:49,320 --> 01:18:52,120
Speaker 5: gonna be hard for Ignacio baam Mondez or anyone else, right.

1637
01:18:52,520 --> 01:18:55,280
Speaker 4: Yeah, no, listen, now standing both guys, I didn't know

1638
01:18:55,320 --> 01:18:56,880
Speaker 4: which way to fight was gonna go. You know, I

1639
01:18:56,960 --> 01:19:01,280
Speaker 4: think both. You know Ignatio obviously, you know, infectious energy

1640
01:19:01,360 --> 01:19:03,439
Speaker 4: when you speak to him. He just loves being here

1641
01:19:03,520 --> 01:19:07,240
Speaker 4: and fighting. He's going to grow from this fight a lot.

1642
01:19:07,720 --> 01:19:11,840
Speaker 4: He's a young kid. He stepped up and uh, you know,

1643
01:19:12,920 --> 01:19:17,400
Speaker 4: Rafie mixing in the takedowns was absolutely phenomenal. Like fight

1644
01:19:17,520 --> 01:19:20,080
Speaker 4: IQ wise, you got to give him an a plus.

1645
01:19:20,280 --> 01:19:23,080
Speaker 4: And again another guy who I never really met, but

1646
01:19:24,400 --> 01:19:26,560
Speaker 4: I do. I just have a good time talking to

1647
01:19:26,600 --> 01:19:29,439
Speaker 4: people and meeting people. It's Ian watching his you know,

1648
01:19:29,600 --> 01:19:33,559
Speaker 4: his dad in the corner at the event, I believe,

1649
01:19:33,680 --> 01:19:37,640
Speaker 4: and you know the interviews they do, just I don't know,

1650
01:19:37,920 --> 01:19:40,080
Speaker 4: you know, like when you're we're sitting back in America,

1651
01:19:40,120 --> 01:19:43,160
Speaker 4: you think you know people. They don't even have relationships.

1652
01:19:43,280 --> 01:19:45,240
Speaker 4: The kids they're fighting there, bombing each I don't know

1653
01:19:45,320 --> 01:19:48,080
Speaker 4: what the hell runs through my head, but people are

1654
01:19:48,240 --> 01:19:50,800
Speaker 4: just there's a lot of good human beings out there,

1655
01:19:51,000 --> 01:19:53,840
Speaker 4: and I don't want to get crazy, but there's absolutely

1656
01:19:53,960 --> 01:19:56,559
Speaker 4: no reason for fighting the way this ship is going down. Man,

1657
01:19:56,640 --> 01:19:59,640
Speaker 4: I don't get it at all. I mean, because you know,

1658
01:19:59,680 --> 01:20:02,360
Speaker 4: I know people from every fricking region I got in

1659
01:20:02,439 --> 01:20:05,640
Speaker 4: the gym. Nobody wants this ship. Nobody. I don't know

1660
01:20:05,720 --> 01:20:08,360
Speaker 4: what the hell is going on, but it just got

1661
01:20:08,479 --> 01:20:12,240
Speaker 4: to stop. Really does he? People will get along, man.

1662
01:20:13,240 --> 01:20:16,719
Speaker 2: It was really special to see Raphael Phazive with his father.

1663
01:20:16,840 --> 01:20:20,240
Speaker 5: I don't know, great, you know, American parents along the way,

1664
01:20:20,360 --> 01:20:23,719
Speaker 5: but really a special special moment.

1665
01:20:23,800 --> 01:20:24,040
Speaker 2: Kenny.

1666
01:20:24,080 --> 01:20:25,759
Speaker 5: I don't know if you saw it, but just seeing

1667
01:20:26,360 --> 01:20:28,439
Speaker 5: the way his dad and it didn't seem to me

1668
01:20:28,600 --> 01:20:31,520
Speaker 5: like maybe this was a father who had long articulated

1669
01:20:31,600 --> 01:20:33,160
Speaker 5: his pride for his son over the years.

1670
01:20:33,200 --> 01:20:34,240
Speaker 2: Maybe he was that guy.

1671
01:20:34,360 --> 01:20:36,639
Speaker 5: But Ken Flow, what do you have for us on physie,

1672
01:20:36,680 --> 01:20:38,760
Speaker 5: because in the nature of time, I want to get

1673
01:20:38,800 --> 01:20:41,080
Speaker 5: some of your thoughts on just how brilliant a mixed

1674
01:20:41,080 --> 01:20:43,280
Speaker 5: martial arts athlete he looks like to me at least.

1675
01:20:43,800 --> 01:20:46,360
Speaker 6: Yeah, you know, while I thought Bob Monday's had the

1676
01:20:46,400 --> 01:20:47,400
Speaker 6: advantage heading into that.

1677
01:20:47,439 --> 01:20:49,879
Speaker 2: Fight, I did think it was a very dangerous fight.

1678
01:20:49,920 --> 01:20:54,599
Speaker 6: For Lahoula, just based on Physey's ability to put together

1679
01:20:54,720 --> 01:20:57,960
Speaker 6: some nasty combinations and but what I did not expect

1680
01:20:58,120 --> 01:20:59,920
Speaker 6: was what Ray talked about with the takedowns. You know,

1681
01:21:00,080 --> 01:21:03,000
Speaker 6: I think the intelligence and execution and the timing of

1682
01:21:03,080 --> 01:21:06,479
Speaker 6: all those things really was the difference. It's showing that

1683
01:21:06,680 --> 01:21:09,800
Speaker 6: he's thinking about this game, he's making adjustments to maybe

1684
01:21:09,840 --> 01:21:12,880
Speaker 6: some previous mistakes that he's made, and fights like against

1685
01:21:12,960 --> 01:21:15,120
Speaker 6: gaechean things, so he is getting better.

1686
01:21:15,240 --> 01:21:16,360
Speaker 2: That's the scary thought.

1687
01:21:16,800 --> 01:21:19,519
Speaker 6: Defensively, I thought was where he was just sharper than

1688
01:21:19,560 --> 01:21:21,320
Speaker 6: Bob Monday's and I think that was the difference.

1689
01:21:21,360 --> 01:21:23,840
Speaker 2: But really a brilliant performance.

1690
01:21:23,720 --> 01:21:26,800
Speaker 4: And Anthony Kenny's thing. Like I told Nas for the

1691
01:21:26,880 --> 01:21:30,360
Speaker 4: first time when I saw a visive at the airport, Uh,

1692
01:21:30,680 --> 01:21:33,599
Speaker 4: you know, he said, he goes. I mean, watching naz

1693
01:21:33,840 --> 01:21:35,960
Speaker 4: fight goes, I just wanted to throw my whole fucking

1694
01:21:36,000 --> 01:21:38,160
Speaker 4: game plan out the window. So by saying that and

1695
01:21:38,280 --> 01:21:40,640
Speaker 4: still holding to the fight I think he had in

1696
01:21:40,720 --> 01:21:43,280
Speaker 4: that fight. I think he even makes it more special

1697
01:21:43,360 --> 01:21:46,120
Speaker 4: to me, because dude, if you weren't jacked up after

1698
01:21:46,240 --> 01:21:48,800
Speaker 4: watching fucking Naza's fight, something's wrong with you.

1699
01:21:49,040 --> 01:21:49,280
Speaker 7: Like that.

1700
01:21:49,720 --> 01:21:52,439
Speaker 4: So and those guys, you know again he's from Azurevijon, so.

1701
01:21:52,760 --> 01:21:53,880
Speaker 2: Yeah, he's watching.

1702
01:21:54,000 --> 01:21:56,200
Speaker 4: You know. They they you know, got to I think

1703
01:21:56,200 --> 01:21:58,160
Speaker 4: they have a pretty cool relationship. I don't know, you

1704
01:21:58,200 --> 01:22:00,960
Speaker 4: know what it is, but in this they definitely did.

1705
01:22:01,439 --> 01:22:03,760
Speaker 4: So for him to even say that to me and

1706
01:22:03,880 --> 01:22:06,200
Speaker 4: then do what he did, I think makes it more

1707
01:22:06,280 --> 01:22:09,120
Speaker 4: special because I don't know how you put the brakes

1708
01:22:09,160 --> 01:22:11,680
Speaker 4: on after that, you know, after what your witnessing, and

1709
01:22:12,080 --> 01:22:15,360
Speaker 4: you're in front of your home people too. It's crazy.

1710
01:22:15,479 --> 01:22:17,360
Speaker 4: But he did get it done. He did go back

1711
01:22:17,400 --> 01:22:20,200
Speaker 4: to fight I Q with the takedowns and was pretty

1712
01:22:20,240 --> 01:22:20,599
Speaker 4: to watch.

1713
01:22:20,960 --> 01:22:22,280
Speaker 2: Dude. That's a great point.

1714
01:22:22,400 --> 01:22:25,800
Speaker 5: I mean, could you imagine watching your fellow oser Bjani

1715
01:22:25,920 --> 01:22:27,880
Speaker 5: out there in that type of fight and then having

1716
01:22:27,920 --> 01:22:29,960
Speaker 5: to sort of reel it back in. And I think

1717
01:22:30,000 --> 01:22:33,519
Speaker 5: the guys are also wise to credit Ba Mundees. You know,

1718
01:22:33,600 --> 01:22:35,479
Speaker 5: I thought he was valiant in defeating He was trying

1719
01:22:35,520 --> 01:22:36,200
Speaker 5: to win the fight.

1720
01:22:36,360 --> 01:22:36,880
Speaker 2: He just said.

1721
01:22:37,640 --> 01:22:40,000
Speaker 5: I just think Bob Mundes, I know he lost his

1722
01:22:40,120 --> 01:22:41,680
Speaker 5: ranking camp for I think he's still gonna beat a

1723
01:22:41,720 --> 01:22:43,240
Speaker 5: lot of the guys in the lightweight division.

1724
01:22:43,640 --> 01:22:45,880
Speaker 6: Absolutely, He's still developing as a fighter, and I think

1725
01:22:45,920 --> 01:22:47,320
Speaker 6: we'll see huge improvements from him.

1726
01:22:47,360 --> 01:22:49,040
Speaker 2: I actually thought he he won round one.

1727
01:22:50,360 --> 01:22:52,360
Speaker 6: I think round two and round three with the difference

1728
01:22:52,400 --> 01:22:55,120
Speaker 6: for me, But uh, he'll be back he'll be back

1729
01:22:55,160 --> 01:22:58,040
Speaker 6: in just you know, little adjustments, and I think he's

1730
01:22:58,040 --> 01:22:59,040
Speaker 6: still very much.

1731
01:22:58,960 --> 01:23:01,360
Speaker 2: A guy who can who is elite in that division.

1732
01:23:03,000 --> 01:23:04,879
Speaker 4: Is a young kid, He's going to make the adjustments.

1733
01:23:04,960 --> 01:23:07,439
Speaker 4: That fight might have did a more good the way

1734
01:23:07,520 --> 01:23:10,519
Speaker 4: it went down, you know, Yeah, I got I think

1735
01:23:10,560 --> 01:23:13,080
Speaker 4: he got caught off guard and that's not gonna happen again,

1736
01:23:13,560 --> 01:23:15,120
Speaker 4: you know what I mean. And he was on a

1737
01:23:15,200 --> 01:23:20,680
Speaker 4: great trajectory. There is not one diodor of doubt in

1738
01:23:20,760 --> 01:23:22,960
Speaker 4: my mind that that kid doesn't get better from that fight.

1739
01:23:23,120 --> 01:23:25,800
Speaker 4: It's that type of fight and where he has in

1740
01:23:25,920 --> 01:23:26,479
Speaker 4: his career.

1741
01:23:27,560 --> 01:23:30,280
Speaker 2: How old is this kid, oh twenty eight?

1742
01:23:30,320 --> 01:23:33,080
Speaker 4: Maybe let me think I did the trust. I really

1743
01:23:33,160 --> 01:23:37,080
Speaker 4: believe this that that that will be a turning point

1744
01:23:37,320 --> 01:23:40,000
Speaker 4: in this guy's career. He's he's not losing his next fight.

1745
01:23:40,080 --> 01:23:42,880
Speaker 4: I bet. I think he makes eas You could see

1746
01:23:42,920 --> 01:23:45,120
Speaker 4: he's in love with the game and he got on

1747
01:23:45,200 --> 01:23:48,080
Speaker 4: the side and he and he's technically really good. So

1748
01:23:49,680 --> 01:23:53,720
Speaker 4: it's gonna help him more and maybe as fucked up

1749
01:23:53,760 --> 01:23:55,680
Speaker 4: as it is to sell, maybe even more than a win.

1750
01:23:56,240 --> 01:23:58,280
Speaker 4: I think he makes some adjustments that are going to

1751
01:23:58,360 --> 01:24:00,639
Speaker 4: serve him really well in the future.

1752
01:24:01,040 --> 01:24:05,400
Speaker 5: Yeah, he'll uh, he'll be twenty eight on August twenty seven,

1753
01:24:05,520 --> 01:24:10,200
Speaker 5: so think about that. Yeah again, Raphael Phazie is a

1754
01:24:10,320 --> 01:24:15,679
Speaker 5: real hard gotta beat. Yeah, I reckon hey real quickly

1755
01:24:15,840 --> 01:24:19,240
Speaker 5: before we let you go. No, I'm not going to

1756
01:24:19,280 --> 01:24:23,400
Speaker 5: ask you about mayonnaise. So UFC three seventeen is this weekend?

1757
01:24:23,880 --> 01:24:29,040
Speaker 5: Yeah versus Charles Olivera and you have Aleschandre Pantosia versus

1758
01:24:29,160 --> 01:24:35,360
Speaker 5: Kai Kata fronts. Anything appeal to you from a betting

1759
01:24:35,439 --> 01:24:38,920
Speaker 5: perspective or otherwise. It seemed like you were bullish on

1760
01:24:39,000 --> 01:24:41,320
Speaker 5: Ilia when we asked you when the fight was booked.

1761
01:24:41,840 --> 01:24:44,160
Speaker 5: Anything for us on three seventeen before we let you

1762
01:24:44,800 --> 01:24:46,559
Speaker 5: fly on out of here, Yeah.

1763
01:24:46,640 --> 01:24:51,599
Speaker 4: Definitely fill bullish on Toporia. I say he gets it done.

1764
01:24:51,680 --> 01:24:53,360
Speaker 4: I think he gets it done by knockout.

1765
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Speaker 5: All right, Well, we wish you the safest of travels

1766
01:24:57,640 --> 01:25:02,320
Speaker 5: back to uh leazes as Uni, thank you, and we

1767
01:25:02,439 --> 01:25:07,320
Speaker 5: appreciate the extent of time and uh closing congratulations man.

1768
01:25:07,439 --> 01:25:09,479
Speaker 5: I mean part of the thrill for me was watching

1769
01:25:09,560 --> 01:25:13,880
Speaker 5: you in that goddamn corner. So amazing, amazing win in

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01:25:13,960 --> 01:25:15,160
Speaker 5: a career full of them for you.

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Speaker 4: And I'll tell you, Joan what I was mentally through

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Speaker 4: This podcast was such a pleasure for me to do, man,

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Speaker 4: to get my mind back on track. I don't think

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Speaker 4: you'll understand how how really special was I to spend

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Speaker 7: At the wall.

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Speaker 2: Well had I known that?

1778
01:25:35,560 --> 01:25:37,280
Speaker 5: Well, we just got to communicate a little bit better.

1779
01:25:37,360 --> 01:25:39,840
Speaker 5: I'll take you for sixty minutes anytime. Would you rather

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Speaker 5: spiders or snakes.

1781
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Speaker 4: Rather, I'll take them all. Anything, Just get me back

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Speaker 4: to the get me back to the US.

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Speaker 2: Would you rather well still going?

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Speaker 4: This is incredible?

1785
01:25:55,320 --> 01:25:58,880
Speaker 5: Would you rather cows be purple or cats be huge?

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Speaker 5: Or as Dana said, do you maybe not give a shit?

1787
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Speaker 4: Oh? Maybe not give you right?

1788
01:26:05,720 --> 01:26:08,200
Speaker 5: Well, uh hey, if the cows are purple when you

1789
01:26:08,240 --> 01:26:10,280
Speaker 5: get back to the United States of America, I don't

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Speaker 5: think you'll much care. How I love Oh yeah, hey,

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Speaker 5: I have a great day in a better evening.

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Speaker 4: We love it, guys. What a pleasure it is to

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Speaker 5: just three seventeen so Portia versus ola Ea. Six selections

1836
01:28:15,880 --> 01:28:17,960
Speaker 5: from the Fellas today, beginning with the featured prelim A

1837
01:28:18,000 --> 01:28:22,760
Speaker 5: middleweight Gregory Rodriguez. He pronounces that hard R minus one

1838
01:28:22,880 --> 01:28:25,920
Speaker 5: ninety eight, taking on Jack Ermanson plus one sixty four.

1839
01:28:27,200 --> 01:28:30,640
Speaker 5: So Jack Hermanson making his eighteenth UFC appearance BRIB, but

1840
01:28:30,720 --> 01:28:32,439
Speaker 5: first since the win over Joe Pifer that was all

1841
01:28:32,479 --> 01:28:34,960
Speaker 5: the way back in February of twenty twenty three. He

1842
01:28:35,160 --> 01:28:38,800
Speaker 5: had invasive shoulder surgery in June of last year, and

1843
01:28:38,920 --> 01:28:41,040
Speaker 5: now here later. He returns in the role of underdog

1844
01:28:41,080 --> 01:28:44,519
Speaker 5: against Gregory RoboCop Rodriguez BP gohead.

1845
01:28:45,040 --> 01:28:45,240
Speaker 2: Yeah.

1846
01:28:45,520 --> 01:28:49,439
Speaker 3: Uh, I don't pick RoboCop enough. I don't pick him enough,

1847
01:28:49,479 --> 01:28:51,160
Speaker 3: and I'm not picking a miror waning dog out on

1848
01:28:51,280 --> 01:28:54,479
Speaker 3: Jack Armnson. RoboCop was really good when he gets inside

1849
01:28:54,800 --> 01:28:58,320
Speaker 3: his range, his pocket, he's phenomenal. His boxing's great. He's

1850
01:28:58,360 --> 01:29:00,519
Speaker 3: tough as nails. But when you stay on the outside

1851
01:29:00,800 --> 01:29:03,280
Speaker 3: and Jack Romanson can use some footwork and some length,

1852
01:29:04,040 --> 01:29:05,760
Speaker 3: it's gonna be a problem for RoboCop. I can see

1853
01:29:05,760 --> 01:29:09,160
Speaker 3: her Manson sweeping up some of these rounds in staying

1854
01:29:09,240 --> 01:29:11,280
Speaker 3: clean in there, and RoboCop has a tendency to get

1855
01:29:11,360 --> 01:29:13,559
Speaker 3: hit a lot. He might take some chances Jack Manson

1856
01:29:13,600 --> 01:29:15,560
Speaker 3: can crack. I think they're washed on the ground. That

1857
01:29:15,640 --> 01:29:18,439
Speaker 3: care Manson has maybe some better attacks on the ground,

1858
01:29:18,479 --> 01:29:20,439
Speaker 3: but I just think they're gonna probably wash out there.

1859
01:29:20,680 --> 01:29:23,280
Speaker 3: Ather kim Manson's movement. It worries me that he's coming

1860
01:29:23,320 --> 01:29:26,000
Speaker 3: off such a nasty injury, being a year away, year

1861
01:29:26,080 --> 01:29:28,479
Speaker 3: plus away, but I still think he's got enough in

1862
01:29:28,560 --> 01:29:31,160
Speaker 3: the tank to probably clean sweep this thirty twenty seven

1863
01:29:31,680 --> 01:29:32,519
Speaker 3: give me the dog there.

1864
01:29:32,800 --> 01:29:36,839
Speaker 5: Yeah, Kenny Hermanson's a pretty calculated, thoughtful guy. Gave himself

1865
01:29:36,880 --> 01:29:39,200
Speaker 5: the requisite amount of time, so I wouldn't be surprised

1866
01:29:39,200 --> 01:29:41,240
Speaker 5: at whatever age for him to come back and be

1867
01:29:41,400 --> 01:29:44,519
Speaker 5: pretty forceful. Rodriguezoz, the two to one favorite, saw his

1868
01:29:44,600 --> 01:29:46,760
Speaker 5: three fight winning streak snap by Jared Cannon here at

1869
01:29:46,760 --> 01:29:47,920
Speaker 5: a main event earlier this year.

1870
01:29:48,240 --> 01:29:50,000
Speaker 2: What do you think about the feature prelim can flow.

1871
01:29:50,760 --> 01:29:52,880
Speaker 6: Yeah, and Hermanson seems like he's in good spirits and

1872
01:29:52,960 --> 01:29:55,559
Speaker 6: ready to go hiking around Vegas all that good stuff,

1873
01:29:56,160 --> 01:29:59,439
Speaker 6: And yeah, I think that wrestling wise too. If he's

1874
01:29:59,439 --> 01:30:01,200
Speaker 6: able to put Reguez on his back, I think he

1875
01:30:01,240 --> 01:30:03,640
Speaker 6: could do some great things as well. He's not too

1876
01:30:03,680 --> 01:30:06,200
Speaker 6: shabby with this submission game, very aware there. I think

1877
01:30:06,280 --> 01:30:08,639
Speaker 6: Rodriguez does most of his best stuff when he gets

1878
01:30:08,680 --> 01:30:11,240
Speaker 6: top position on the ground. But as far as who's

1879
01:30:11,240 --> 01:30:13,800
Speaker 6: the more dangerous guy on the feet, I think it's Rodriguez.

1880
01:30:13,840 --> 01:30:16,360
Speaker 6: I think he, you know, if he's able to get

1881
01:30:16,400 --> 01:30:18,960
Speaker 6: into range at boxing range more specifically, I.

1882
01:30:19,000 --> 01:30:22,400
Speaker 2: Think he could hurt Hermannson. Her Manson can get.

1883
01:30:22,360 --> 01:30:24,640
Speaker 6: Hit, but her Manson is very good at dictating the

1884
01:30:24,760 --> 01:30:27,360
Speaker 6: range and kind of the pacing of the fight. And

1885
01:30:27,520 --> 01:30:30,360
Speaker 6: sometimes Rodriguez gets tired Layton fight, so her Manson it

1886
01:30:30,439 --> 01:30:32,400
Speaker 6: seems to me that he gets stronger.

1887
01:30:32,920 --> 01:30:34,200
Speaker 2: I do like the fact that it's just.

1888
01:30:34,200 --> 01:30:37,760
Speaker 6: A fifteen minute fight, though, and you know, I see

1889
01:30:37,840 --> 01:30:39,840
Speaker 6: value with her Manson, but I'm gonna go the way

1890
01:30:39,880 --> 01:30:41,599
Speaker 6: of Rodriguez, all right.

1891
01:30:41,680 --> 01:30:45,559
Speaker 5: Main card opener Boys at Bannam Way Felipe Jungle Boy

1892
01:30:45,920 --> 01:30:49,360
Speaker 5: Lima minus two oh five Peyton Talbot comes back as

1893
01:30:49,400 --> 01:30:52,680
Speaker 5: the underdog plus one seventy. What a match up here,

1894
01:30:52,760 --> 01:30:55,640
Speaker 5: Brih Lima fourteen to one, fourteen straight wins, two to

1895
01:30:55,720 --> 01:30:58,360
Speaker 5: zero in the UFC. He's still only twenty seven, former

1896
01:30:58,400 --> 01:31:01,400
Speaker 5: training partner of Kamzat Chimaya by the way, kid can

1897
01:31:01,520 --> 01:31:05,080
Speaker 5: do it all and now over two to one against

1898
01:31:05,120 --> 01:31:06,479
Speaker 5: the credentialed Peyton Talbot BP.

1899
01:31:06,600 --> 01:31:08,000
Speaker 2: Who do you like in this one? At thirty five?

1900
01:31:08,280 --> 01:31:10,240
Speaker 3: Yeah? This is this reminds me way back when when

1901
01:31:10,240 --> 01:31:12,920
Speaker 3: they put Macy Barber and Marina Maverick together two up

1902
01:31:13,000 --> 01:31:15,080
Speaker 3: and coming fighters in the same vision that hadn't really

1903
01:31:15,120 --> 01:31:16,680
Speaker 3: reached it there, Y're like, oh, are we are we

1904
01:31:16,760 --> 01:31:19,759
Speaker 3: gonna spoil something here because I'm high on Libo whenever

1905
01:31:19,840 --> 01:31:22,240
Speaker 3: or Lima, excuse me, when everyone was on high on Tabat,

1906
01:31:22,280 --> 01:31:24,800
Speaker 3: which I am as well. Lima was the guy to me.

1907
01:31:24,920 --> 01:31:28,040
Speaker 3: I think he's good everywhere. I think that sweetest alsoar

1908
01:31:28,120 --> 01:31:30,600
Speaker 3: gym that he comes out of is top notche. I

1909
01:31:30,640 --> 01:31:34,519
Speaker 3: think they're they're always complete fighters grappling. He's safe, which

1910
01:31:34,560 --> 01:31:37,040
Speaker 3: a little more finishes out of Lima and Peyton Thomas

1911
01:31:37,160 --> 01:31:40,320
Speaker 3: more of a flowy freestyle fighter, hopefully hearing the lot

1912
01:31:40,400 --> 01:31:43,600
Speaker 3: from his last fight against Hony Buseelos, because you know

1913
01:31:43,720 --> 01:31:45,320
Speaker 3: he got kind of, you know, taken out of his

1914
01:31:45,400 --> 01:31:47,840
Speaker 3: game in that fight. Didn't get finished, could have got finished, didn't.

1915
01:31:49,680 --> 01:31:51,759
Speaker 3: I like Lima here. Two to one is a chunky

1916
01:31:51,840 --> 01:31:54,960
Speaker 3: price for me because I think Talbot is extraordinarily talented.

1917
01:31:55,040 --> 01:31:56,920
Speaker 3: But man, I'm gonna golem. I believe in him. I

1918
01:31:56,960 --> 01:31:59,400
Speaker 3: think he wins here. Good parlay piece for anybody out there,

1919
01:31:59,439 --> 01:32:02,240
Speaker 3: You're not a blown up number yet minus two of

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01:32:02,320 --> 01:32:04,320
Speaker 3: five currently of DraftKings, I'll take it.

1921
01:32:04,640 --> 01:32:05,160
Speaker 2: Yeah, Kenny.

1922
01:32:05,240 --> 01:32:08,200
Speaker 5: That outclassing at the hands of Holony Barcelos took Peyton

1923
01:32:08,280 --> 01:32:11,800
Speaker 5: Talbot's Oh he's now nine and one, but trying to

1924
01:32:11,840 --> 01:32:14,200
Speaker 5: respond here pretty quickly. That was UFC three to eleven,

1925
01:32:14,640 --> 01:32:17,360
Speaker 5: trying to end Lima's extended winning street.

1926
01:32:17,400 --> 01:32:19,040
Speaker 2: Who do he having this one to kick off the

1927
01:32:19,200 --> 01:32:22,120
Speaker 2: pay per view? Yeah, I really like this matchup.

1928
01:32:22,360 --> 01:32:24,519
Speaker 6: These are two guys that I think the UFC is

1929
01:32:24,560 --> 01:32:27,400
Speaker 6: trying to figure out which one is going to rise

1930
01:32:27,520 --> 01:32:29,760
Speaker 6: and which one is going to fall. I think that

1931
01:32:30,320 --> 01:32:32,400
Speaker 6: Lima is going to be that guy who's going to rise.

1932
01:32:32,600 --> 01:32:35,360
Speaker 6: I think he's just better overall. I think that he's

1933
01:32:35,439 --> 01:32:38,800
Speaker 6: certainly the better grappler, and if you know Barcellos was

1934
01:32:38,800 --> 01:32:40,599
Speaker 6: able to do that to Peyton Talbot, then I think

1935
01:32:40,600 --> 01:32:42,600
Speaker 6: there's no reason why fleetp but Lima can't do that.

1936
01:32:42,960 --> 01:32:45,760
Speaker 6: What makes this even more interesting is that Lima is

1937
01:32:45,760 --> 01:32:48,960
Speaker 6: an even better striker than Barcelos, so it doesn't have

1938
01:32:49,000 --> 01:32:51,720
Speaker 6: the same level of experience for sure, But based on

1939
01:32:51,800 --> 01:32:54,000
Speaker 6: what I've seen in the UFC so far, I think

1940
01:32:54,160 --> 01:32:57,280
Speaker 6: Lima maybe a dude who could challenge for the belt

1941
01:32:57,640 --> 01:32:59,280
Speaker 6: in the future. I do think he's that good in

1942
01:32:59,360 --> 01:33:03,320
Speaker 6: that talent. Give me Felipe Lima. It's hard to get

1943
01:33:03,520 --> 01:33:06,040
Speaker 6: that much better fight to fight when it comes to

1944
01:33:06,080 --> 01:33:08,559
Speaker 6: your grappling skills. That that could take a two years,

1945
01:33:08,600 --> 01:33:11,479
Speaker 6: three years, So give me Lima all right.

1946
01:33:11,520 --> 01:33:14,080
Speaker 5: Next fight on the pay per view main cod the

1947
01:33:14,160 --> 01:33:16,880
Speaker 5: rebooking a lightweight h outs Moikano minus one forty two

1948
01:33:16,920 --> 01:33:20,560
Speaker 5: bnio Benny Darus plus one twenty So most of you

1949
01:33:20,680 --> 01:33:23,320
Speaker 5: should know the story right. Moikano pulled from this matchup

1950
01:33:23,360 --> 01:33:25,840
Speaker 5: to faces Lama Cashe earlier this year when a'mn sourg

1951
01:33:25,920 --> 01:33:29,120
Speaker 5: Jan was unable to go and injured his back same fight.

1952
01:33:29,240 --> 01:33:33,559
Speaker 5: But dar Yuschbry hasn't competed in an even longer time

1953
01:33:33,680 --> 01:33:36,679
Speaker 5: now December of twenty twenty three. And despite the fact

1954
01:33:36,680 --> 01:33:40,200
Speaker 5: that dar Us hasn't won since he beat Mattau's Gamrod

1955
01:33:40,200 --> 01:33:42,360
Speaker 5: at UFC two to eighty and twenty twenty two, I

1956
01:33:42,439 --> 01:33:45,000
Speaker 5: see a lot of people who fancy him this week.

1957
01:33:45,040 --> 01:33:47,599
Speaker 2: It what say you, big gun Brian Petrie?

1958
01:33:48,000 --> 01:33:50,240
Speaker 3: Yeah, I like the dog money as well. I don't

1959
01:33:50,240 --> 01:33:52,799
Speaker 3: think I'm gonna take Benny Benny's coming off two knockout losses.

1960
01:33:52,960 --> 01:33:56,400
Speaker 3: I think the best play here would be the fight

1961
01:33:56,479 --> 01:33:58,280
Speaker 3: to end in round one by knockout. I think both

1962
01:33:58,320 --> 01:34:01,360
Speaker 3: these guys can get chinny in that first round. A

1963
01:34:01,400 --> 01:34:03,120
Speaker 3: lot of them, a lot of their losses if it

1964
01:34:03,200 --> 01:34:05,439
Speaker 3: comes by knockout, is in that first round. So don't

1965
01:34:05,479 --> 01:34:08,120
Speaker 3: pick a side. Pick knockout round one, cash that check.

1966
01:34:08,720 --> 01:34:12,000
Speaker 3: They're very similar because they they throw hands or aggressive,

1967
01:34:12,200 --> 01:34:13,560
Speaker 3: but they want to be on top. They want to

1968
01:34:13,600 --> 01:34:16,200
Speaker 3: implement their grappling, not the way Kanda is sticky on

1969
01:34:16,280 --> 01:34:18,800
Speaker 3: the bot on top like he's hard to get off.

1970
01:34:19,040 --> 01:34:21,639
Speaker 3: People say he feels very very heavy on top. Benny

1971
01:34:22,360 --> 01:34:24,400
Speaker 3: has really good takedown defense. He looked great against him

1972
01:34:24,400 --> 01:34:26,840
Speaker 3: and two scam out when they fought. And you know,

1973
01:34:27,000 --> 01:34:28,920
Speaker 3: we haven't really seen his grappling in a while, but

1974
01:34:29,040 --> 01:34:29,559
Speaker 3: he has.

1975
01:34:29,479 --> 01:34:31,160
Speaker 2: It in his sleeve, you know.

1976
01:34:31,560 --> 01:34:33,840
Speaker 3: You know, Benny's a little bit older now we're worried

1977
01:34:33,840 --> 01:34:36,479
Speaker 3: about that, but he does have power that's not gonna

1978
01:34:36,520 --> 01:34:38,760
Speaker 3: go away. And more. Kano pushes his punches a little bit,

1979
01:34:38,800 --> 01:34:40,719
Speaker 3: but he's big. He's a big dude and kin crack

1980
01:34:41,000 --> 01:34:43,240
Speaker 3: technique wise, in the feet, I think it could be

1981
01:34:43,880 --> 01:34:45,840
Speaker 3: more improved. But on the ground, I think he's nasty.

1982
01:34:46,000 --> 01:34:47,960
Speaker 3: I'm really curious if hits the ground, who is better?

1983
01:34:48,240 --> 01:34:49,400
Speaker 3: That's where I want to see this. I don't know

1984
01:34:49,400 --> 01:34:50,519
Speaker 3: if it's going to get there, but I want to

1985
01:34:50,560 --> 01:34:52,519
Speaker 3: see it. But you know, he can't afford to lose,

1986
01:34:52,680 --> 01:34:55,400
Speaker 3: so I'm going money more Kano. I like the number,

1987
01:34:55,479 --> 01:34:58,160
Speaker 3: but again I agree with you. I think people playing

1988
01:34:58,280 --> 01:35:01,519
Speaker 3: Benny at plus money is a smart p Kenny.

1989
01:35:01,680 --> 01:35:05,160
Speaker 5: It really is interesting to hear Moikano and his relative

1990
01:35:05,240 --> 01:35:08,600
Speaker 5: heaviness right in the top position because Moikano said to me,

1991
01:35:08,680 --> 01:35:11,360
Speaker 5: and I've said this before, you know, when training with

1992
01:35:11,439 --> 01:35:14,160
Speaker 5: grand Dawson, He's like, dude, how does anybody ever get

1993
01:35:14,240 --> 01:35:15,280
Speaker 5: up like grand Dawson?

1994
01:35:15,560 --> 01:35:16,559
Speaker 2: Is that guy?

1995
01:35:17,080 --> 01:35:17,200
Speaker 4: Uh?

1996
01:35:17,720 --> 01:35:19,360
Speaker 2: Dar? You you still only thirty six?

1997
01:35:19,520 --> 01:35:22,639
Speaker 5: Kenny right late starting MMA gray let Us maybe makes

1998
01:35:22,680 --> 01:35:25,160
Speaker 5: you think he's a little bit older. But sixteen six

1999
01:35:25,280 --> 01:35:27,200
Speaker 5: and one in the UFC for dar Use twelve and

2000
01:35:27,240 --> 01:35:30,439
Speaker 5: six for Moikano. Great lightweight matchup they rebooked at Ken Flow.

2001
01:35:30,439 --> 01:35:31,320
Speaker 2: Who do you like? Yeah?

2002
01:35:31,360 --> 01:35:32,760
Speaker 6: And I had to be really careful, you know, with

2003
01:35:32,880 --> 01:35:34,920
Speaker 6: Dariush because we haven't seen him as much as we've

2004
01:35:34,920 --> 01:35:37,479
Speaker 6: seen with Moikano. And you know, I think a lot

2005
01:35:37,520 --> 01:35:40,200
Speaker 6: of people forget about that fight against Gamrock where Gamron

2006
01:35:40,320 --> 01:35:43,000
Speaker 6: is such a good takedown artists, perhaps maybe not as

2007
01:35:43,040 --> 01:35:46,439
Speaker 6: comfortable or experienced as he is now, But you know,

2008
01:35:46,640 --> 01:35:49,479
Speaker 6: can we say that Moikano's takedowns are gonna be as

2009
01:35:49,520 --> 01:35:51,519
Speaker 6: good as what Gamron had back then?

2010
01:35:51,800 --> 01:35:52,760
Speaker 2: I'm not so sure.

2011
01:35:52,880 --> 01:35:57,280
Speaker 6: My Moikano has turned into a fantastic takedown guy. But

2012
01:35:57,360 --> 01:35:59,240
Speaker 6: I think it's gonna be tough to put dar Usch

2013
01:35:59,360 --> 01:36:02,080
Speaker 6: on his back on the ground. With both these guys,

2014
01:36:02,240 --> 01:36:04,720
Speaker 6: I think both are capable of submitting the other. I

2015
01:36:04,800 --> 01:36:08,360
Speaker 6: think that's a really close fight, and both have their

2016
01:36:08,400 --> 01:36:11,519
Speaker 6: strengthen weaknesses as strikers. I think defensively, I think there's

2017
01:36:11,560 --> 01:36:14,519
Speaker 6: some vulnerabilities on both sides. I think Daryush might hit

2018
01:36:14,600 --> 01:36:16,320
Speaker 6: a little bit harder. But like you said, I think

2019
01:36:16,360 --> 01:36:19,640
Speaker 6: moi Kano's build, his structure looks to be that you know,

2020
01:36:19,760 --> 01:36:22,000
Speaker 6: he's a little bit bigger, a little bit more impressive

2021
01:36:22,040 --> 01:36:25,000
Speaker 6: maybe than than Daryusch is. So when you have a

2022
01:36:25,080 --> 01:36:28,120
Speaker 6: fight this close, I'm gonna lean towards the underdog here.

2023
01:36:28,160 --> 01:36:30,240
Speaker 6: I'm gonna go with dar Yusch could see this fight

2024
01:36:30,360 --> 01:36:32,640
Speaker 6: going either way, though, I think this is gonna be

2025
01:36:33,000 --> 01:36:34,320
Speaker 6: a really good fight while.

2026
01:36:34,160 --> 01:36:38,280
Speaker 5: It lasts, all right, now the Big three that includes

2027
01:36:38,320 --> 01:36:40,880
Speaker 5: a featured bout at Flyway, the number one rank and

2028
01:36:40,960 --> 01:36:45,200
Speaker 5: tender Brandon raw Dog, Royvald minus one fifteen, Joshua Van

2029
01:36:45,400 --> 01:36:47,639
Speaker 5: down by the River minus one oh five. By the way,

2030
01:36:47,720 --> 01:36:50,439
Speaker 5: I did work a down by the River into the

2031
01:36:50,600 --> 01:36:53,760
Speaker 5: broadcast already, the combo feature that I voiced. I said,

2032
01:36:53,800 --> 01:36:57,160
Speaker 5: you know, instead of taking a summer vacation down by

2033
01:36:57,280 --> 01:37:02,000
Speaker 5: the river Joshua Van. Anyway, Van just competed Briant UFC

2034
01:37:02,120 --> 01:37:04,479
Speaker 5: three sixteen earlier this month, the fact of which you

2035
01:37:04,600 --> 01:37:07,080
Speaker 5: are acutely aware. But now he steps in here a

2036
01:37:07,160 --> 01:37:09,720
Speaker 5: few weeks later in place of Manel cop gotta be

2037
01:37:09,720 --> 01:37:10,440
Speaker 5: an eliminator.

2038
01:37:10,880 --> 01:37:13,080
Speaker 2: Question is BP who wins it? Yeah?

2039
01:37:13,120 --> 01:37:15,640
Speaker 3: This fight is like Roy Ball's nickname, Roaldough. This fight

2040
01:37:15,800 --> 01:37:19,559
Speaker 3: fox boys like fucks. I love this fight. I love

2041
01:37:19,640 --> 01:37:22,160
Speaker 3: that Van twenty two to twenty three years old dominant

2042
01:37:22,160 --> 01:37:24,080
Speaker 3: performance goes, Yeah, I'm gonna step up. I'm gonna fight

2043
01:37:24,120 --> 01:37:26,800
Speaker 3: the top of the vision. Royball has really grown up

2044
01:37:26,880 --> 01:37:29,360
Speaker 3: this division. I remember this guy coming out with his

2045
01:37:29,520 --> 01:37:31,720
Speaker 3: hair on fire, and he's very dangerous, but then you

2046
01:37:31,760 --> 01:37:34,560
Speaker 3: would get tired. Now he can go five rounds and

2047
01:37:34,680 --> 01:37:37,640
Speaker 3: look clean in this five rounds. His striking's good. I

2048
01:37:37,720 --> 01:37:41,240
Speaker 3: don't know, besides maybe Pantosia, if there's anybody in the UFC,

2049
01:37:41,360 --> 01:37:43,800
Speaker 3: in the flyway division that can scramble like him his

2050
01:37:43,880 --> 01:37:47,880
Speaker 3: scrambles or great Right and Van who again I was

2051
01:37:48,000 --> 01:37:50,240
Speaker 3: driving the fan Van, I'm gonna I'm gonna get I'm

2052
01:37:50,240 --> 01:37:52,280
Speaker 3: gonna hand the keys over for this fight, just because

2053
01:37:53,160 --> 01:37:55,960
Speaker 3: is it too much? Too soon? I think his boxing's phenomenal,

2054
01:37:56,040 --> 01:37:57,920
Speaker 3: but I think when it gets in the grappling, we

2055
01:37:58,000 --> 01:37:59,960
Speaker 3: haven't seen a ton of defensive grappling from Josh Van

2056
01:38:00,000 --> 01:38:02,599
Speaker 3: and yet. And the fact that Revolt is lengthy, similar

2057
01:38:02,640 --> 01:38:05,120
Speaker 3: to a Charles Johnson who gave Van some trouble in

2058
01:38:05,160 --> 01:38:08,360
Speaker 3: the striking, and he's unpredictable. I think Revall could really

2059
01:38:08,760 --> 01:38:11,719
Speaker 3: post some problems here. I see this being an incredible fight.

2060
01:38:12,760 --> 01:38:14,040
Speaker 3: I don't know if I'm gonna have money on it

2061
01:38:14,080 --> 01:38:15,400
Speaker 3: because I just want to watch it as a fan

2062
01:38:15,479 --> 01:38:18,400
Speaker 3: because I love both dudes. But I'm gonna pick Rovall

2063
01:38:18,479 --> 01:38:21,400
Speaker 3: for our segment here. I like the low number. I

2064
01:38:21,520 --> 01:38:24,000
Speaker 3: like to pick them, but man, it's gonna be an

2065
01:38:24,040 --> 01:38:26,959
Speaker 3: absolute barn burner. I can't wait. Yeah, give me Brandon.

2066
01:38:26,760 --> 01:38:30,880
Speaker 5: Revolt well Joshua Van getting respect from betterers and odds

2067
01:38:30,960 --> 01:38:33,320
Speaker 5: makers right at this point in time. It's a close

2068
01:38:33,400 --> 01:38:36,160
Speaker 5: fight on paper and Brandon Royval, right, he's already stacked

2069
01:38:36,240 --> 01:38:40,040
Speaker 5: two wins since his title shot against Pantosia, against Brandon

2070
01:38:40,120 --> 01:38:43,799
Speaker 5: Moreno and then tatsu Ro Tyra. Just have an incredible

2071
01:38:43,840 --> 01:38:46,479
Speaker 5: amount of respect for his body of work already.

2072
01:38:47,640 --> 01:38:47,840
Speaker 4: Yeah.

2073
01:38:47,880 --> 01:38:49,920
Speaker 5: I mean, Van's a developing guy certainly when it comes

2074
01:38:49,920 --> 01:38:52,800
Speaker 5: to the wrestling in the grappling, so figures to be

2075
01:38:52,880 --> 01:38:54,880
Speaker 5: tested in that area. It's a fascinating fight, camp flow.

2076
01:38:54,920 --> 01:38:56,479
Speaker 5: We'll need a prediction, not now, but right now. Kid,

2077
01:38:59,479 --> 01:39:02,240
Speaker 5: you're on me, but we'll take the pick when you oh,

2078
01:39:02,360 --> 01:39:03,840
Speaker 5: is that I.

2079
01:39:03,880 --> 01:39:04,719
Speaker 2: Am not on mute.

2080
01:39:07,080 --> 01:39:07,120
Speaker 7: No.

2081
01:39:08,280 --> 01:39:10,839
Speaker 2: People say he's breathing heavy. I mean the sleep apnea,

2082
01:39:10,920 --> 01:39:13,800
Speaker 2: What the fuck? I think it was a thing. I

2083
01:39:13,880 --> 01:39:16,080
Speaker 2: think it was a Turkish thing. All right, here we go.

2084
01:39:16,520 --> 01:39:20,240
Speaker 6: I'm always breathing heavy, all right. Ah, So I think

2085
01:39:20,360 --> 01:39:23,960
Speaker 6: this is a really really canfler. That's a problem, you know,

2086
01:39:24,360 --> 01:39:27,960
Speaker 6: to fucking muture ass, you know, just.

2087
01:39:28,080 --> 01:39:29,280
Speaker 2: Builds inside me.

2088
01:39:30,040 --> 01:39:33,600
Speaker 6: Yeah, Brandon Royville, I can't even talk now. I I

2089
01:39:33,680 --> 01:39:35,360
Speaker 6: think it's gonna be the better grapple. I think there's

2090
01:39:35,400 --> 01:39:38,120
Speaker 6: no question there. I think he's proven himself time and

2091
01:39:38,200 --> 01:39:41,240
Speaker 6: time again. And for Joshua Van, U, if there's one

2092
01:39:41,320 --> 01:39:43,800
Speaker 6: guy who can do a quick turnaround like this, it's

2093
01:39:43,800 --> 01:39:46,439
Speaker 6: gonna be a twenty three year old stud like Joshua Van.

2094
01:39:46,960 --> 01:39:49,720
Speaker 6: And he just continues to get better and the fact

2095
01:39:49,760 --> 01:39:52,720
Speaker 6: that he's taking this fight shows how confident he is.

2096
01:39:53,520 --> 01:39:55,040
Speaker 6: And on the feet, he can pose a lot of

2097
01:39:55,080 --> 01:39:58,080
Speaker 6: problems to Rouville, who is very unorthodox, but he is

2098
01:39:58,200 --> 01:40:00,360
Speaker 6: vulnerable to shots. And I think if if this was

2099
01:40:00,400 --> 01:40:02,680
Speaker 6: a five round fight, there'd be no question on my

2100
01:40:02,760 --> 01:40:05,080
Speaker 6: mind I would go with the experienced level and overall

2101
01:40:05,160 --> 01:40:09,200
Speaker 6: skill level of Royval. Fifteen minute fight, I'm leaning the

2102
01:40:09,280 --> 01:40:13,120
Speaker 6: way of Joshua Van. I think that because it's a

2103
01:40:13,200 --> 01:40:14,519
Speaker 6: close fight and can go either way.

2104
01:40:14,720 --> 01:40:16,320
Speaker 2: Again, I'm leaning the way of the underdog.

2105
01:40:17,560 --> 01:40:20,120
Speaker 6: I like the momentum that Joshua Van has been building,

2106
01:40:20,160 --> 01:40:23,360
Speaker 6: I like the way that he's training. And I don't

2107
01:40:23,479 --> 01:40:26,519
Speaker 6: know why I keep doubting Rouville and he keeps proving

2108
01:40:26,560 --> 01:40:30,360
Speaker 6: me wrong. So probably gonna happen again. But I'm gonna

2109
01:40:30,360 --> 01:40:32,840
Speaker 6: go with Joshua Van because I do think he could

2110
01:40:33,080 --> 01:40:35,760
Speaker 6: do big things in this division, maybe even be a

2111
01:40:35,840 --> 01:40:36,840
Speaker 6: champ at some point, and.

2112
01:40:36,920 --> 01:40:39,760
Speaker 5: That was actually pretty self deprecating because you are absolutely

2113
01:40:40,080 --> 01:40:43,160
Speaker 5: murdering the board in twenty twenty five can Flow, So.

2114
01:40:43,280 --> 01:40:45,040
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, you are all right.

2115
01:40:45,160 --> 01:40:47,960
Speaker 5: Thank We're gonna have Ken Flow lead the dance on

2116
01:40:48,040 --> 01:40:49,960
Speaker 5: the title fights. Here we begin with the comin event

2117
01:40:50,000 --> 01:40:53,960
Speaker 5: for the undisputed UFC Flyway Championship A La Chandre Pantosia

2118
01:40:54,040 --> 01:40:57,200
Speaker 5: Modest two fifty eight kai Co de France is plus

2119
01:40:57,320 --> 01:41:01,280
Speaker 5: two ten Kenny already the fourth defense for the Cannibal

2120
01:41:01,360 --> 01:41:04,280
Speaker 5: A Leschandre Pantosia. The question is will it be another

2121
01:41:04,320 --> 01:41:05,160
Speaker 5: successful one or not?

2122
01:41:06,560 --> 01:41:09,519
Speaker 6: You know, Kai car Franz has some crazy power. I

2123
01:41:09,640 --> 01:41:12,519
Speaker 6: think his speed, his ability to put together very sharp

2124
01:41:12,600 --> 01:41:16,320
Speaker 6: combinations gives him the ability to beat or certainly knock

2125
01:41:16,360 --> 01:41:17,440
Speaker 6: out anybody.

2126
01:41:17,080 --> 01:41:17,879
Speaker 2: In this division.

2127
01:41:17,960 --> 01:41:20,680
Speaker 6: I think it's all gonna come down to has he

2128
01:41:20,880 --> 01:41:24,799
Speaker 6: done his homework with his takedown defense and his grappling defense.

2129
01:41:25,280 --> 01:41:29,200
Speaker 6: Pantosia has a knack for taking people's back. The way

2130
01:41:29,280 --> 01:41:32,160
Speaker 6: that he does it and how he introduces his striking

2131
01:41:32,280 --> 01:41:35,799
Speaker 6: to get into that range and stay so aggressive throughout,

2132
01:41:36,160 --> 01:41:38,559
Speaker 6: and the fact that he's done wonders with his conditioning

2133
01:41:38,640 --> 01:41:41,760
Speaker 6: to be able to sustain that level of pressure for

2134
01:41:41,920 --> 01:41:46,040
Speaker 6: twenty five minutes makes him a very difficult guy to beat.

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Speaker 6: And as far as vulnerabilities on the feet, like if

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Speaker 6: you get a guy who's a really good striker who

2137
01:41:52,680 --> 01:41:56,720
Speaker 6: sometimes gets hit, you know, yeah, I'm gonna give a

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Speaker 6: guy like Kai car Franz that chance and maybe even

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Speaker 6: the advanta. But Pantojia he is a grappler of the

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Speaker 6: highest quality and doesn't really put himself in that position

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01:42:07,000 --> 01:42:10,759
Speaker 6: too often to get hit. And so many times because

2142
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Speaker 6: of that pressure, in that threat of the takedown, it

2143
01:42:13,200 --> 01:42:16,920
Speaker 6: tends to slow people up and make them hesitant, similar

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Speaker 6: to what O'Malley did against Morob. And you know, Pantoja's

2145
01:42:20,640 --> 01:42:23,559
Speaker 6: even more of a submission threat than Morob is. Maybe

2146
01:42:23,640 --> 01:42:27,400
Speaker 6: doesn't have that, you know, machine gun like takedown ability

2147
01:42:27,520 --> 01:42:31,120
Speaker 6: like Morob, but it's pretty damn close with his pressure guys,

2148
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Speaker 6: make no mistake about it. So I like Pantojia here.

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Speaker 6: I just have a hard time right now with that

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Speaker 6: division of believing that anybody has solved the puzzle of

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Speaker 6: aleshander Pontoja.

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Speaker 5: Brian Kai Catifranz was felled by a body shot when

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Speaker 5: he fought Brandon Moreno for the Interim flyweight Championship in

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Speaker 5: twenty twenty two.

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Speaker 2: Second title shot this weekend. How do you think he fairs?

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I gotta get this off my chest, Kay car

2157
01:42:57,520 --> 01:43:00,320
Speaker 3: France to not lose them. You're Abasi was an all

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01:43:00,400 --> 01:43:02,280
Speaker 3: time robbery. I think. I think he's on a two

2159
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Speaker 3: fight winster. He looked phenomenal against the Verse. Ey, we

2160
01:43:04,760 --> 01:43:06,439
Speaker 3: just haven't seen him. He's been banged up a little bit.

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01:43:06,439 --> 01:43:08,600
Speaker 3: We haven't seen him, so he's been away. He's with

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01:43:08,720 --> 01:43:12,080
Speaker 3: a phenomenal camp. So I gotta imagine that his already

2163
01:43:12,160 --> 01:43:14,640
Speaker 3: good takedown of Fence is going to be better, and

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01:43:14,720 --> 01:43:18,519
Speaker 3: he's gonna have to really have Pantosia open up the striking,

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Speaker 3: which he is known to do. Pantosia mixes striking and

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01:43:21,400 --> 01:43:23,880
Speaker 3: grappling very very well, and he's gonna have to lay

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01:43:23,880 --> 01:43:25,920
Speaker 3: in a big shot. You know, Kai isn't the biggest

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01:43:25,960 --> 01:43:28,240
Speaker 3: volume guy. He kind of pop shots a little bit,

2169
01:43:28,560 --> 01:43:30,360
Speaker 3: but he's gonna have to open it up a little more.

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Speaker 3: I like Kay car France a lot, but I just

2171
01:43:32,320 --> 01:43:35,720
Speaker 3: think Pantosia is super underappreciated, super disrespected in this fight.

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01:43:36,040 --> 01:43:38,760
Speaker 3: I watched Kay Carr against Brandon Moreno just last night again,

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01:43:39,320 --> 01:43:41,280
Speaker 3: and that was a kay car France who was scared.

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Speaker 3: He was not scared the fight, but title the lights

2175
01:43:45,320 --> 01:43:46,719
Speaker 3: got too big for him. You know, he got dropped

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Speaker 3: by a body shot. He didn't look himself. Taking nothing

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Speaker 3: away from random Moreno's a stud, but that wasn't the

2178
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Speaker 3: kay we're used to. Pantosia has been there, been through it.

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Speaker 3: This guy has looked fucking as tired in the third round,

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Speaker 3: You're like, he's done. He's got a third, fourth, fifth,

2181
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Speaker 3: win heart the size of the fucking arena he's fighting

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Speaker 3: in and has the skills to back it up. It's

2183
01:44:07,360 --> 01:44:10,320
Speaker 3: got a good chin, great grappling, heavy on top. His

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Speaker 3: wrestling as good as submissions are good. It's gonna take

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01:44:12,960 --> 01:44:14,799
Speaker 3: a lot to beat this guy. You have to be exposive.

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01:44:14,800 --> 01:44:16,920
Speaker 3: I can see Kyle landing a shot. Sure he is

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Speaker 3: capable doing that. He's an elite fighter. He deserves his

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Speaker 3: title shot. I just don't think he's the right matchup.

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Speaker 3: We've seen this fight before in the Ultimate Fighter, and

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Speaker 3: that was a really early young both guys. Yeah, kind

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Speaker 3: of gotta throw that fight away a little bit, But

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Speaker 3: I just think Pantoja is so much a better version

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Speaker 3: of that that I think we're gonna get an end

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01:44:33,600 --> 01:44:35,760
Speaker 3: still here for a Pantoja is a pretty confident.

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Speaker 2: Bed for me.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, they fought nine years ago July twenty sixteen on

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Speaker 5: The Ultimate Fighter.

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Speaker 2: All Right, can't flow?

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Speaker 5: Lightweight Championship is a pot us iliot to poti AboutUs

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Speaker 5: four to fifty five. Charles Duke Bronx Olivera is plus

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Speaker 5: three point fifty. The belt will soon be vacated by

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Speaker 5: Islami Kashev, who will move up to challenge the welterweight

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Speaker 5: king Jack Della Maddalena Ti Poria Kenny move it up

2204
01:44:57,000 --> 01:44:57,479
Speaker 5: to lightweight.

2205
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Speaker 2: Here gets the red corner. He's a near five.

2206
01:45:00,040 --> 01:45:02,879
Speaker 5: I have to one favorite against the most decorated finisher

2207
01:45:02,920 --> 01:45:05,000
Speaker 5: in UFC history, Charles Olivera.

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Speaker 6: Man the fight that John Annick predicted about two years

2209
01:45:08,840 --> 01:45:12,080
Speaker 6: ago that this could happen at some point is actually happening,

2210
01:45:12,479 --> 01:45:13,679
Speaker 6: and it's happening for a belt.

2211
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Speaker 2: What a fight here.

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Speaker 6: Olivera is an absolute marvel when it comes to creating

2213
01:45:19,360 --> 01:45:22,000
Speaker 6: offense and throwing things at you that you may not

2214
01:45:22,160 --> 01:45:25,400
Speaker 6: be prepared for. And what makes him even more danger

2215
01:45:25,520 --> 01:45:27,920
Speaker 6: to the fight is the fact that he throws some

2216
01:45:28,000 --> 01:45:31,360
Speaker 6: similar combinations that Ji Herbert throws. He's got a similar

2217
01:45:31,439 --> 01:45:34,479
Speaker 6: body type. He's got long legs, and he likes to

2218
01:45:34,560 --> 01:45:39,040
Speaker 6: attack your head with him. And sometimes, you know, the

2219
01:45:39,200 --> 01:45:42,840
Speaker 6: composure and the relaxed attitude of Toporia can get him

2220
01:45:42,920 --> 01:45:45,880
Speaker 6: in trouble. We haven't seen a whole lot of it lately,

2221
01:45:46,000 --> 01:45:48,200
Speaker 6: but the way that he blocks the kicks, if I'm

2222
01:45:48,240 --> 01:45:51,760
Speaker 6: being honest, is a concern. I'm super high. Everybody knows

2223
01:45:51,840 --> 01:45:52,240
Speaker 6: how I think.

2224
01:45:52,320 --> 01:45:55,000
Speaker 2: Tolporia is probably the best pound for pound fighter on

2225
01:45:55,080 --> 01:45:58,280
Speaker 2: the planet right now. But no fighter is perfect. But

2226
01:45:58,520 --> 01:46:01,240
Speaker 2: his defense is pretty damn close. But the way he

2227
01:46:01,360 --> 01:46:02,360
Speaker 2: approaches kicks, to.

2228
01:46:02,400 --> 01:46:06,599
Speaker 6: Me, is a concern, and Olivera might just be able

2229
01:46:06,680 --> 01:46:09,120
Speaker 6: to expose it if he's able to finish some of

2230
01:46:09,160 --> 01:46:13,959
Speaker 6: those nice hand combinations with kicks going upstairs. So Toporia

2231
01:46:14,040 --> 01:46:15,680
Speaker 6: is gonna have to mind his p's and cues of

2232
01:46:15,840 --> 01:46:19,920
Speaker 6: how he enters. The problem is how he enters. When

2233
01:46:19,960 --> 01:46:23,760
Speaker 6: he gets on the inside, he is the most devastating

2234
01:46:24,360 --> 01:46:29,479
Speaker 6: boxer in UFC history in my opinion. Why no, it's

2235
01:46:29,520 --> 01:46:31,759
Speaker 6: not just his power, No, it's not just his speed,

2236
01:46:31,880 --> 01:46:35,559
Speaker 6: it's his overall technique and how he can attack your

2237
01:46:35,720 --> 01:46:40,120
Speaker 6: body and your head from a short distance. To put

2238
01:46:40,200 --> 01:46:44,240
Speaker 6: together that kind of power on the inside, like Toporia,

2239
01:46:44,320 --> 01:46:46,479
Speaker 6: you have to know what you're doing, and man, this

2240
01:46:46,640 --> 01:46:50,040
Speaker 6: guy brings it like nobody else. And I think he

2241
01:46:50,360 --> 01:46:52,519
Speaker 6: wanted this fight for a reason, and as good as

2242
01:46:52,600 --> 01:46:55,280
Speaker 6: Olivera is and as good as his offense is, I

2243
01:46:55,360 --> 01:46:58,840
Speaker 6: think it's the vulnerability of Olivera's defense that may get

2244
01:46:58,920 --> 01:47:02,040
Speaker 6: him in trouble regardless of who wins and loses this fight.

2245
01:47:02,160 --> 01:47:04,640
Speaker 6: Though I don't see this one going the distance. These

2246
01:47:04,680 --> 01:47:08,160
Speaker 6: guys are just way too dangerous, have way too much offense.

2247
01:47:09,160 --> 01:47:12,599
Speaker 6: But I think Toporia gets it done here. I think

2248
01:47:13,040 --> 01:47:17,240
Speaker 6: most likely early, and man, it's gonna be an amazing

2249
01:47:17,280 --> 01:47:18,240
Speaker 6: fight while it lasts.

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Speaker 5: It's been interesting to hear Alexander Volkanowski talk about Toporia

2251
01:47:23,360 --> 01:47:27,360
Speaker 5: and his focus in those potential fight ending moments, which

2252
01:47:27,439 --> 01:47:29,320
Speaker 5: is undeniable. I think his bravery is part of it

2253
01:47:29,400 --> 01:47:31,680
Speaker 5: as well. Brian Patree, who do you like in the

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01:47:31,720 --> 01:47:33,360
Speaker 5: main event here at UFC three seventeen?

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Speaker 3: Yeah? Can you touch on something I was gonna touch

2256
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Speaker 3: on too. Toporio has been dropped by two head kicks,

2257
01:47:37,240 --> 01:47:39,680
Speaker 3: one by joh Harbert one on the regional scene. The

2258
01:47:39,760 --> 01:47:41,880
Speaker 3: way he blocks his head kids is a vulnerability and

2259
01:47:42,000 --> 01:47:44,200
Speaker 3: people throw it against him a lot. A guy like

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01:47:44,240 --> 01:47:47,080
Speaker 3: I was in Volkanowski. Unfortunately he's a little short stature,

2261
01:47:47,120 --> 01:47:49,840
Speaker 3: but a guy like built like Charles Olvera can throw

2262
01:47:49,920 --> 01:47:53,360
Speaker 3: kicks in ol Era. The fight doesn't start for until

2263
01:47:53,360 --> 01:47:54,360
Speaker 3: you get dropped at least once.

2264
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Speaker 2: Right.

2265
01:47:54,600 --> 01:47:58,080
Speaker 3: This guy is the fucking beast when it comes down.

2266
01:47:58,160 --> 01:48:00,160
Speaker 3: This is the guy who used to get dropped by

2267
01:48:00,200 --> 01:48:02,080
Speaker 3: body shots and kind of rolled over. Now has the

2268
01:48:02,120 --> 01:48:04,880
Speaker 3: heart of a champion, knows what it takes. And he's here,

2269
01:48:04,920 --> 01:48:07,280
Speaker 3: and I'm really curious to see what Toporio looks at

2270
01:48:07,320 --> 01:48:10,519
Speaker 3: fifty five. This dude must just be dense, because there's

2271
01:48:10,560 --> 01:48:12,519
Speaker 3: a picture. I saw a line of him next to

2272
01:48:12,760 --> 01:48:15,439
Speaker 3: Rojas Junior. Ros Junior I won thirty five and Ross

2273
01:48:15,479 --> 01:48:18,479
Speaker 3: Junior like dwarfed him. Right, I know he's short, but man,

2274
01:48:18,520 --> 01:48:20,519
Speaker 3: this dude must be like Dan Henderson dance. I remember

2275
01:48:20,520 --> 01:48:23,400
Speaker 3: I bro hugged Dan Henderson years ago, and no, harget

2276
01:48:23,439 --> 01:48:26,080
Speaker 3: A siemut fucking wall. It's like, what is this? Right?

2277
01:48:27,360 --> 01:48:29,439
Speaker 3: So to Portia has got to have that those dense

2278
01:48:29,520 --> 01:48:32,000
Speaker 3: bones with them. And Kenny's right, I mean this guy's boxing.

2279
01:48:32,560 --> 01:48:34,479
Speaker 3: I mean, you can only tell so much by when

2280
01:48:34,520 --> 01:48:36,599
Speaker 3: when someone hits Mits, anybody can look good on Mits,

2281
01:48:36,680 --> 01:48:39,360
Speaker 3: but the way he hits Mits Man and then implements

2282
01:48:39,439 --> 01:48:43,280
Speaker 3: that into his fighting is something else. I've never once

2283
01:48:43,360 --> 01:48:45,120
Speaker 3: said this ever in my MMA kir because I am

2284
01:48:45,120 --> 01:48:48,360
Speaker 3: a boxing fan too. If there's any MMA champion that's

2285
01:48:48,360 --> 01:48:51,200
Speaker 3: ever gonna cross over to fight a real boxer, it's

2286
01:48:51,240 --> 01:48:54,439
Speaker 3: Taporia without a doubt. The composure that he has as well,

2287
01:48:54,800 --> 01:48:57,280
Speaker 3: the high momp like he's listening to his brother. Oh yeah,

2288
01:48:58,040 --> 01:48:59,760
Speaker 3: knockout mounts trund Okay, you know what I mean. Like

2289
01:48:59,800 --> 01:49:02,840
Speaker 3: the want to work, like he's just confident and he

2290
01:49:02,960 --> 01:49:05,720
Speaker 3: puts in the work and he's just so skillful. It's

2291
01:49:05,840 --> 01:49:08,719
Speaker 3: it's super impressive watch that the mens is incredibly strong.

2292
01:49:08,960 --> 01:49:10,720
Speaker 3: I rewatched the Bryce Metro fight. I was there live,

2293
01:49:10,800 --> 01:49:13,439
Speaker 3: rewatched it. He tossed Bryce around. No Bryce was sick,

2294
01:49:13,520 --> 01:49:17,280
Speaker 3: but still this dude is just strong, physical, good submissions

2295
01:49:17,880 --> 01:49:21,280
Speaker 3: on top of elite striking. I don't want to disrespect

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Speaker 3: the Bronx because I love Charles Oliver is one of

2297
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Speaker 3: my favorite all time fighters. A guy is a legend,

2298
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Speaker 3: Hall of Famer. But I'm going to a poor you here.

2299
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Speaker 3: I just don't see anybody beating him right now. Hopefully

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Speaker 3: we'll get his all match up in the future, because

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Speaker 3: that's that's gonna be insane. But uh yeah, give me too, Pooria.

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Speaker 5: And if you want to go straight positivity on a

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Speaker 5: five foot six inch guy who has visions of becoming

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Speaker 5: the welterweight champion next right, yeah, how about the fact

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Speaker 5: that he's not gonna be cutting to one forty five

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Speaker 5: and how that could potentially tell him. You know, for

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Speaker 5: Charles Olivera, every single fight before the fight is hugely

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Speaker 2: Brian, here we go three thousand dollars. You have c

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Speaker 2: three seventeen. Go ahead.

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Speaker 3: By the way, I get texts like every fight night

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Speaker 3: but not as confidently. All right, So we're gonna start

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Speaker 3: off a little parlay here. I got Toporia and I

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Speaker 3: got Pantosia that is gonna come out at minus one

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Speaker 3: forty five. That's gonna be for two g's, two g's

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Speaker 3: right there. I think both guys are gonna get it done.

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Speaker 3: I'm pretty confident in that. Then we got I gotta

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Speaker 3: go a little doggy here. We're gonna go jackro manson

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Speaker 3: plus one eighty four for five hundred bucks. And I

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Speaker 3: got two little props for you that I'm just gonna tickle. Here,

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Speaker 3: we got Tapouria ko which is not available. I'll get

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Speaker 3: that number for you for four hundred dollars. And then

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Speaker 3: this one's gonna be kind of a long shot, but

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Speaker 3: I think we're gonna I think it's gonna be nice.

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Speaker 3: Terrence McKenny down the Prelimbs round one sub for one

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Speaker 3: hundred dollars. I think he overwhelms the Slava Claus maybe

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Speaker 3: gets a real naked choke that should pay pretty nice

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Speaker 3: right there.

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Speaker 2: Nice okay, And just so you know, the price I'm

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Speaker 2: giving you on her Manson is plus one sixty four.

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Speaker 3: Because okay, sorry, I wrote I wrote it down for

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Speaker 3: that's on me.

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Speaker 2: That's on me.

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Speaker 5: I like the way you've attacked the board. And yeah,

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Speaker 5: people do sleep on the submission game of Terrence McKinny.

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Speaker 5: So a nice look ahead of the proposition there ken

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Speaker 5: flow three thousand dollars to spend UFC three one seven

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Speaker 5: in which direction are you going?

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Speaker 2: Kid? Okay, guys, I have a bigger lead here. So

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Speaker 2: what I'm going to do.

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Speaker 6: I'm gonna take a little bit of hishky, okay, little

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Speaker 6: bit of hisky.

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Speaker 14: I'm going to go five hundred dollars on Lima Man,

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Speaker 14: Lima five a hundreds, and then I'm gonna go fifteen

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Speaker 14: hundreds on Advan josh Man.

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Speaker 2: I think I think he's very good, very smart, so

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Speaker 2: I'm gonna peaky him, and.

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Speaker 14: Then I'm going to do a one thousand dollars on

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Speaker 14: a champion parlay man CHAMPI parlay to Puria and Pantosia

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Speaker 14: for one thousand.

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Speaker 2: Amazing. That's so good, it's just amazing. Oh, thank you.

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Speaker 5: So you know what's interesting when Petrie went with the

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Speaker 5: Topoia Pintosa parlay, sort of like, oh, the champion's parlay,

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Speaker 5: but one of them isn't even the champion.

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Speaker 2: I know that's true. That's true, that is you know,

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