1 00:00:01,280 --> 00:00:19,920 Speaker 1: The volume what is going on everybody? John middlecop three 2 00:00:19,960 --> 00:00:24,560 Speaker 1: and out podcast. Happy Memorial Day to all of our 3 00:00:24,640 --> 00:00:28,880 Speaker 1: veterans out there. Uh, special place in my heart with 4 00:00:28,920 --> 00:00:32,240 Speaker 1: my families. I didn't know my dad's brother passed in Vietnam. 5 00:00:33,159 --> 00:00:38,120 Speaker 1: Both my grandparents fought in World War Two. So nothing 6 00:00:38,360 --> 00:00:42,479 Speaker 1: but appreciation, love and pride from the middle Cough family 7 00:00:42,560 --> 00:00:46,640 Speaker 1: and our veterans out there and everyone that's associated with 8 00:00:46,680 --> 00:00:51,400 Speaker 1: that listening to that or this podcast, whoever dms me. 9 00:00:51,440 --> 00:00:56,040 Speaker 1: I always have a great admiration for you guys and 10 00:00:56,080 --> 00:01:00,680 Speaker 1: women who who serve grace country in the world. 11 00:01:00,720 --> 00:01:01,000 Speaker 2: Baby. 12 00:01:01,560 --> 00:01:05,040 Speaker 1: Uh, you know, I wasn't planning on doing a podcast today, 13 00:01:05,280 --> 00:01:10,000 Speaker 1: but you know Jimmy Garoppolo story DeAndre Hopkins, I was like, yeah, 14 00:01:10,000 --> 00:01:11,440 Speaker 1: I'll just do a mail bag. I'll just put a 15 00:01:11,480 --> 00:01:13,640 Speaker 1: little content. You know some of us. I know it's 16 00:01:13,680 --> 00:01:15,960 Speaker 1: a holiday, but you gotta pay the bills you got. 17 00:01:15,959 --> 00:01:17,880 Speaker 1: You gotta keep the train rolling down the tracks. So 18 00:01:17,920 --> 00:01:20,520 Speaker 1: that that's what we're gonna do. If you ever want 19 00:01:20,520 --> 00:01:22,959 Speaker 1: to get in the mail bag at John middlecoff is 20 00:01:22,959 --> 00:01:25,760 Speaker 1: my Instagram and the dms are wide open. Just firing 21 00:01:25,760 --> 00:01:27,479 Speaker 1: the dms and get your question answer here on the show, 22 00:01:27,680 --> 00:01:29,200 Speaker 1: and that's what we're gonna do. So I will talk 23 00:01:29,200 --> 00:01:34,000 Speaker 1: about Jimmy Garoppolo who's injured again, DeAndre Hopkins who is released, 24 00:01:34,920 --> 00:01:38,240 Speaker 1: and then only answer some of your questions. 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Download game Time promo code John. 55 00:03:06,760 --> 00:03:09,040 Speaker 1: And let's start with a story that made the rounds 56 00:03:09,080 --> 00:03:12,680 Speaker 1: this weekend, and it really goes back to when the 57 00:03:12,760 --> 00:03:16,600 Speaker 1: Raiders officially signed Jimmy Garoppolo. Because typically when you sign 58 00:03:16,600 --> 00:03:19,639 Speaker 1: a free agent, there's a scheduled press conference right one o'clock, 59 00:03:19,880 --> 00:03:23,400 Speaker 1: Jimmy Garoppolo will meet the media, come doctor, And of 60 00:03:23,440 --> 00:03:27,800 Speaker 1: course that press conference got pushed back, and then there 61 00:03:27,880 --> 00:03:31,120 Speaker 1: were ota praxes that eventually become open to the media, 62 00:03:31,280 --> 00:03:33,880 Speaker 1: and Jimmy Garoppolo was not present. And then there were 63 00:03:33,880 --> 00:03:36,440 Speaker 1: some comments by DeVante Adams, I'm a little my timeline 64 00:03:36,480 --> 00:03:38,640 Speaker 1: is a little messed up, and he made some things 65 00:03:38,680 --> 00:03:40,960 Speaker 1: like I'm not on board with what we're doing. And 66 00:03:41,000 --> 00:03:42,800 Speaker 1: then you start adding all the piece of the puzzles 67 00:03:42,880 --> 00:03:44,800 Speaker 1: up to the puzzle up and trying to put it 68 00:03:44,840 --> 00:03:48,440 Speaker 1: all together. What all makes sense once the story breaks 69 00:03:48,440 --> 00:03:52,720 Speaker 1: of Jimmy Garoppolo's lead contract that he failed the physical 70 00:03:53,320 --> 00:03:55,160 Speaker 1: when he was signing with the Oakland or the Las 71 00:03:55,240 --> 00:03:57,880 Speaker 1: Vegas Raiders and they had to put clauses in there. 72 00:03:57,960 --> 00:04:00,720 Speaker 1: He had to get a second surgery, which even goes 73 00:04:00,760 --> 00:04:04,000 Speaker 1: back to his San Francisco days when Kyle Shanahan the 74 00:04:04,040 --> 00:04:05,720 Speaker 1: forty nine Ers thought there was a chance that he 75 00:04:05,760 --> 00:04:08,120 Speaker 1: could have returned for either the NFC Championship Game or 76 00:04:08,120 --> 00:04:10,600 Speaker 1: the Super Bowl, which clearly he could not have because 77 00:04:10,600 --> 00:04:12,520 Speaker 1: his foot was all messed up and maybe he didn't 78 00:04:12,560 --> 00:04:16,000 Speaker 1: know it. Clearly something happened in the MRI. It wasn't 79 00:04:16,040 --> 00:04:19,080 Speaker 1: good to go. And my big issue is not with 80 00:04:19,440 --> 00:04:22,200 Speaker 1: Jimmy Garoppolo failing a physical. This is two years in 81 00:04:22,200 --> 00:04:25,880 Speaker 1: a row. Jimmy Garoppolo could not pass a physical at 82 00:04:25,920 --> 00:04:28,760 Speaker 1: the time of free agency, so that is nothing new, 83 00:04:28,920 --> 00:04:32,360 Speaker 1: nothing new with this player. He is a quarterback who 84 00:04:32,440 --> 00:04:37,400 Speaker 1: is often injured. According to my memory bank, he was 85 00:04:37,440 --> 00:04:39,160 Speaker 1: traded to the forty nine ers. He was never a 86 00:04:39,160 --> 00:04:42,120 Speaker 1: full time starter, obviously behind Tom Brady, but he got 87 00:04:42,240 --> 00:04:46,000 Speaker 1: hurt in those four games when Tom Brady was suspended 88 00:04:46,040 --> 00:04:49,440 Speaker 1: for the flightgate. Remember the second game he hurt his shoulder. 89 00:04:49,960 --> 00:04:51,840 Speaker 1: Then he gets traded to the forty nine Ers. His 90 00:04:51,920 --> 00:04:54,200 Speaker 1: second season, which was his first year as a full 91 00:04:54,200 --> 00:04:57,920 Speaker 1: time starter, he tore his acl Then the Super Bowl 92 00:04:58,040 --> 00:05:00,680 Speaker 1: year fully healthy, and then for when they're on out, 93 00:05:00,800 --> 00:05:03,839 Speaker 1: always injured. Twenty twenty, missed a bunch of games, which 94 00:05:03,920 --> 00:05:06,880 Speaker 1: led them to drafting Trey Lance. The Trey Lance's rookie year, 95 00:05:07,000 --> 00:05:11,720 Speaker 1: he got injured shoulder, thumb, obviously last year foot. So 96 00:05:11,839 --> 00:05:15,159 Speaker 1: this guy is a long, long history of durability. And 97 00:05:15,200 --> 00:05:18,440 Speaker 1: here's my thing with the Raiders is they got rid 98 00:05:18,480 --> 00:05:21,520 Speaker 1: of Derek Carr. Okay, I get it right. They were 99 00:05:21,560 --> 00:05:26,440 Speaker 1: not a philosophical match, right, They just didn't work scheme wise. 100 00:05:26,520 --> 00:05:29,359 Speaker 1: Josh McDaniel's him didn't see eyed eye, Derek had one 101 00:05:29,400 --> 00:05:32,279 Speaker 1: of the worst years of his career. Whatever, but you 102 00:05:32,400 --> 00:05:35,040 Speaker 1: need a quarterback and clearly they didn't Draft one, they 103 00:05:35,040 --> 00:05:38,640 Speaker 1: don't have other quarterbacks. What's his name? Stindham signed with 104 00:05:38,680 --> 00:05:40,839 Speaker 1: the Denver Broncos, who showed a little signs of life 105 00:05:40,880 --> 00:05:42,919 Speaker 1: last year and is one of his two starts against 106 00:05:42,920 --> 00:05:44,919 Speaker 1: the forty nine ers. So they go all in on 107 00:05:45,000 --> 00:05:47,680 Speaker 1: Jimmy Garoppolo, which he's not a type guy that you 108 00:05:47,680 --> 00:05:49,719 Speaker 1: can go all in on. He just because he's always 109 00:05:49,760 --> 00:05:52,200 Speaker 1: hurt and then when he heals, he gets hurt again. 110 00:05:53,000 --> 00:05:55,440 Speaker 1: And I think the biggest question mark here is all 111 00:05:55,480 --> 00:05:57,000 Speaker 1: the chips are in the middle of the table for 112 00:05:57,040 --> 00:06:00,280 Speaker 1: a franchise that is just desperate, let's face it. I 113 00:06:00,320 --> 00:06:03,599 Speaker 1: mean they just never win. Ever, they got two winning 114 00:06:03,680 --> 00:06:07,200 Speaker 1: seasons in over two decades in a league full of 115 00:06:07,320 --> 00:06:10,719 Speaker 1: parody where even the crappiest teams figure out a way 116 00:06:10,920 --> 00:06:14,279 Speaker 1: for some successful seasons. And their coach now, I think, 117 00:06:14,360 --> 00:06:17,480 Speaker 1: listen a lot of success as an offensive coordinator. A 118 00:06:17,520 --> 00:06:19,440 Speaker 1: lot of people have a lot of success with Tom Brady. 119 00:06:19,680 --> 00:06:22,760 Speaker 1: He's gotten two opportunities outside the Belichick umbrella and it 120 00:06:22,760 --> 00:06:26,479 Speaker 1: hasn't been pretty. Last year was an embarrassment, and now 121 00:06:26,640 --> 00:06:29,960 Speaker 1: he is tied at the hip clearly with Jimmy Garoppolo. 122 00:06:30,000 --> 00:06:33,520 Speaker 1: Which listen, if Jimmy Garoppolo can play seventeen games. I 123 00:06:33,560 --> 00:06:35,760 Speaker 1: think the Raiders could be competitive. You know, they could 124 00:06:35,839 --> 00:06:38,840 Speaker 1: try to go above five hundred nine to eight. Right, 125 00:06:39,040 --> 00:06:40,800 Speaker 1: they lack the talent. They're clearly not as good with 126 00:06:40,839 --> 00:06:42,719 Speaker 1: the forty nine ers, but he's proven to be better 127 00:06:42,760 --> 00:06:45,680 Speaker 1: than half the league at quarterback. If he's your starting quarterback, 128 00:06:45,839 --> 00:06:48,640 Speaker 1: he sees eyed eye with your offensive coordinator, you can function. 129 00:06:49,320 --> 00:06:52,240 Speaker 1: The problem is he's going to get hurt, like it 130 00:06:52,320 --> 00:06:56,000 Speaker 1: is inevitable. History shows us that to think that Jimmy 131 00:06:56,040 --> 00:07:00,159 Speaker 1: Garoppolo is going to avoid injury would be malpract this 132 00:07:00,440 --> 00:07:03,400 Speaker 1: from Josh McDaniels and Dave Ziegler. But they don't have 133 00:07:03,440 --> 00:07:06,240 Speaker 1: a choice now, like they don't have other options. So 134 00:07:06,240 --> 00:07:08,359 Speaker 1: when I see Florio tweeting about they got out they 135 00:07:08,360 --> 00:07:10,680 Speaker 1: don't have to pay him, well, all that is great, 136 00:07:10,840 --> 00:07:13,600 Speaker 1: and you know, Okay, Jimmy Garoppolo can't eventually pass the 137 00:07:13,600 --> 00:07:16,200 Speaker 1: physical he never gets on the field, they are fucked. 138 00:07:16,600 --> 00:07:20,520 Speaker 1: I mean, Brian Hoyer is currently their backup quarterback. If 139 00:07:20,560 --> 00:07:23,520 Speaker 1: Brian if Jimmy Garoppolo were to disappear and the Raiders 140 00:07:23,560 --> 00:07:26,000 Speaker 1: had to operate with Brian Hoyer, I think they'd win 141 00:07:26,040 --> 00:07:29,120 Speaker 1: four games, Max. So when I look back at these 142 00:07:29,200 --> 00:07:33,880 Speaker 1: quotes from Devonte Adams, listen, I don't necessarily agree. I 143 00:07:33,920 --> 00:07:36,240 Speaker 1: mean you can't agree from a football standpoint. Leading the 144 00:07:36,520 --> 00:07:39,320 Speaker 1: leaving the Green Bay Packers said over and over, I 145 00:07:39,440 --> 00:07:41,880 Speaker 1: understand needing a change of scenery. Hell I did it 146 00:07:41,960 --> 00:07:44,240 Speaker 1: last year, best thing I ever did. So I get 147 00:07:44,280 --> 00:07:46,320 Speaker 1: where he wanted to move back to the West Coast 148 00:07:46,560 --> 00:07:49,600 Speaker 1: play for, you know, his childhood team. I understand it 149 00:07:49,680 --> 00:07:51,680 Speaker 1: now from a football standpoint, like you leave the Green 150 00:07:51,720 --> 00:07:54,280 Speaker 1: Bay Packers to go to the Raiders, you're gonna downgrade, 151 00:07:54,320 --> 00:07:56,920 Speaker 1: and he immediately did. But I think when you dive 152 00:07:56,960 --> 00:07:59,880 Speaker 1: into his comments in that Ringer article, was it kind 153 00:07:59,880 --> 00:08:03,000 Speaker 1: of directed at the Jimmy Garoppolo situation. Like listen, he said, 154 00:08:03,000 --> 00:08:05,360 Speaker 1: over and over, I didn't come for Derek Carr. But 155 00:08:05,440 --> 00:08:08,400 Speaker 1: I didn't come like what's our planet, quarterback? It's not 156 00:08:08,440 --> 00:08:10,480 Speaker 1: a guy whose foots all messed up, who needed a 157 00:08:10,520 --> 00:08:12,880 Speaker 1: second surgery and who's not gonna be able to practice 158 00:08:12,880 --> 00:08:15,120 Speaker 1: his offseason and more than likely history which ow is 159 00:08:15,120 --> 00:08:17,720 Speaker 1: gonna get injured again. What are we going to do? 160 00:08:18,160 --> 00:08:20,320 Speaker 1: And the answer is you would be screwed. And it's like, well, 161 00:08:20,400 --> 00:08:23,520 Speaker 1: they just, you know, going for Caleb Williams. Does Josh 162 00:08:23,640 --> 00:08:27,080 Speaker 1: McDaniels have the rope to go for Caleb Williams, Like, 163 00:08:27,160 --> 00:08:29,520 Speaker 1: let's just say it's a disaster and he wins five 164 00:08:29,640 --> 00:08:32,240 Speaker 1: six games. Are we sure that Josh McDaniels in a 165 00:08:32,280 --> 00:08:36,040 Speaker 1: market like, let's face it, the Las Vegas Knights come 166 00:08:36,080 --> 00:08:40,040 Speaker 1: out of nowhere, created an NHL team, boom, kick ass hell, 167 00:08:40,120 --> 00:08:43,920 Speaker 1: Mark Davis hoes WNBA team won the championship last year. 168 00:08:44,120 --> 00:08:46,240 Speaker 1: I just saw someone tweeted it out over the weekend. 169 00:08:46,240 --> 00:08:51,120 Speaker 1: They're sitting in early records in the WNBA through four games. 170 00:08:51,240 --> 00:08:53,000 Speaker 1: Sure a lot of you have watched some of those games, 171 00:08:53,559 --> 00:08:56,720 Speaker 1: and like the problem is in Vegas have a bright 172 00:08:56,800 --> 00:08:59,800 Speaker 1: light city. You can't be really shitty and expect anyone 173 00:08:59,800 --> 00:09:02,640 Speaker 1: to care about you. And Mark knows this, And I 174 00:09:02,800 --> 00:09:05,280 Speaker 1: just think that if this season goes wrong, and clearly 175 00:09:05,320 --> 00:09:07,720 Speaker 1: they're tied to a guy who's often injured, it could 176 00:09:07,720 --> 00:09:11,240 Speaker 1: be a disaster for Josh McDaniels. So I'm a little surprised. 177 00:09:11,360 --> 00:09:14,160 Speaker 1: Like I understood why they were interested in him, but 178 00:09:14,280 --> 00:09:17,920 Speaker 1: the moment you saw that you pivot not draft a 179 00:09:18,000 --> 00:09:21,240 Speaker 1: quarterback high. I mean, it feels like they're all in 180 00:09:21,280 --> 00:09:23,360 Speaker 1: the middle of the ocean, and their boats already got 181 00:09:23,400 --> 00:09:26,079 Speaker 1: some water on it and more. I would bet on 182 00:09:26,160 --> 00:09:29,000 Speaker 1: it sinking. I just would because history would show I 183 00:09:29,000 --> 00:09:32,000 Speaker 1: can't bet on Jimmy Garoppolo staying healthy. So I think 184 00:09:32,000 --> 00:09:36,000 Speaker 1: it's insane that they've gone down this road regardless of like, oh, 185 00:09:36,040 --> 00:09:38,840 Speaker 1: the contract gives them out, well, great, cut them. What 186 00:09:38,880 --> 00:09:41,280 Speaker 1: the hell are you going to do? And the answer 187 00:09:41,360 --> 00:09:46,080 Speaker 1: is it would not be pretty. The other story is 188 00:09:46,120 --> 00:09:51,680 Speaker 1: that DeAndre Hopkins was released by the Arizona Cardinals, and 189 00:09:52,600 --> 00:09:55,320 Speaker 1: I think on the most basic level, the reason he 190 00:09:55,480 --> 00:09:59,160 Speaker 1: was released is they could not trade his contract. Clearly right, 191 00:09:59,360 --> 00:10:02,439 Speaker 1: no one was taking on basically twenty million dollars for 192 00:10:02,559 --> 00:10:05,719 Speaker 1: DeAndre Hopkins. Now, a lot of people have slid into 193 00:10:05,760 --> 00:10:07,960 Speaker 1: my DMS and asked me like why would they cut up, 194 00:10:08,000 --> 00:10:10,840 Speaker 1: Like what is the point? And the simple answer is 195 00:10:10,880 --> 00:10:13,559 Speaker 1: they don't want him on the team. They don't want 196 00:10:13,640 --> 00:10:16,400 Speaker 1: him around. He clearly hasn't been around like an OTA's 197 00:10:17,080 --> 00:10:20,440 Speaker 1: but they want to rid themselves of him as a player. 198 00:10:20,760 --> 00:10:25,640 Speaker 1: They don't they value more eating the money to send 199 00:10:25,720 --> 00:10:29,920 Speaker 1: him away than keeping him around their new fresh culture, 200 00:10:30,160 --> 00:10:32,560 Speaker 1: and they're rebuild that They're starting and I think big picture, 201 00:10:32,840 --> 00:10:35,360 Speaker 1: they are trying to bottom out, and that's a whole 202 00:10:35,400 --> 00:10:37,680 Speaker 1: nother question. If they are the worst team in the league, 203 00:10:37,679 --> 00:10:39,839 Speaker 1: which I think it's always easy to say at the 204 00:10:39,840 --> 00:10:42,120 Speaker 1: beginning of the season, and I did that last year, 205 00:10:42,320 --> 00:10:43,840 Speaker 1: like a lot of people did. I'm like, as Seattle's 206 00:10:43,880 --> 00:10:45,720 Speaker 1: going to be the worst team all the Giants they 207 00:10:45,800 --> 00:10:49,280 Speaker 1: both made the playoffs, So I'm not as confident doing that. 208 00:10:49,559 --> 00:10:52,200 Speaker 1: I'm a little rattled by last season. But I think 209 00:10:52,200 --> 00:10:55,040 Speaker 1: a lot of people, and rightfully so, and meet myself included, 210 00:10:55,880 --> 00:10:58,480 Speaker 1: feel pretty confident. This team's gonna stink. I mean, obviously, 211 00:10:58,480 --> 00:11:01,440 Speaker 1: their quarterbacks injured, they got a lot of things go 212 00:11:01,679 --> 00:11:06,640 Speaker 1: Their talent on their team is not really there. But like, 213 00:11:07,280 --> 00:11:09,640 Speaker 1: they cut this guy and now he's a free agent, 214 00:11:09,840 --> 00:11:12,160 Speaker 1: so you don't have to take that contract. That is 215 00:11:12,200 --> 00:11:14,600 Speaker 1: not your problem. You can sign him to whatever contract 216 00:11:14,600 --> 00:11:18,800 Speaker 1: he wants. Now. One of his sticking points, which is 217 00:11:18,880 --> 00:11:23,920 Speaker 1: actually very understandable, is him going well if Odell Beckham 218 00:11:24,000 --> 00:11:28,200 Speaker 1: got fifteen million dollars, look at my stats the last 219 00:11:28,200 --> 00:11:30,360 Speaker 1: three or four years, compared to that guy who gets 220 00:11:30,360 --> 00:11:32,560 Speaker 1: injured all the time. Now, Hopkins got some red flax 221 00:11:32,679 --> 00:11:36,800 Speaker 1: suspended last year some pdssues has been banged up, not 222 00:11:36,880 --> 00:11:40,360 Speaker 1: a big practice player, is pretty productive when he's on 223 00:11:40,400 --> 00:11:43,320 Speaker 1: the field. Never been fast, so it's like, well, speed's diminishing. 224 00:11:43,320 --> 00:11:45,880 Speaker 1: He's kind of got his game's different, but kind of 225 00:11:45,880 --> 00:11:48,680 Speaker 1: that an Kwon Bolden thing, like his game's not predicated 226 00:11:48,720 --> 00:11:51,560 Speaker 1: on speed, Like his game's aging well, because that's just 227 00:11:51,600 --> 00:11:54,760 Speaker 1: how he's always played. He's always been slow. He's a 228 00:11:54,760 --> 00:11:59,120 Speaker 1: contested catch, you know, jump ball, productive guy in the 229 00:11:59,160 --> 00:12:01,560 Speaker 1: red zone. He's just a football player. I mean he's 230 00:12:01,720 --> 00:12:04,200 Speaker 1: when he's playing well, he is a very very good 231 00:12:04,280 --> 00:12:07,440 Speaker 1: football player. I think at times, I guess he had 232 00:12:07,480 --> 00:12:10,000 Speaker 1: some seasons where he was I wouldn't go elite, but 233 00:12:10,080 --> 00:12:12,320 Speaker 1: you know, to a top five wide receiver. He's no 234 00:12:12,400 --> 00:12:14,240 Speaker 1: longer that guy. No one was going to pay him. 235 00:12:14,640 --> 00:12:16,520 Speaker 1: I think his problem is going to be because I 236 00:12:16,520 --> 00:12:18,120 Speaker 1: get where he's going, like, I'm not taking less than 237 00:12:18,120 --> 00:12:20,960 Speaker 1: fifteen million. Who's giving you fifteen million dollars? Won? The 238 00:12:20,960 --> 00:12:23,079 Speaker 1: money's not really out there because the teams he'd want 239 00:12:23,120 --> 00:12:26,120 Speaker 1: to go to, the Chiefs, the Bills, all the good teams, 240 00:12:26,400 --> 00:12:29,760 Speaker 1: they're not really flushed with cap space, so that's not happening. 241 00:12:29,880 --> 00:12:32,400 Speaker 1: So would he be willing to do one of those 242 00:12:32,720 --> 00:12:36,280 Speaker 1: purely non guaranteed deals. Remember Durell Reeves did that. Now, 243 00:12:36,280 --> 00:12:38,480 Speaker 1: that doesn't give you any security. Things go wrong at 244 00:12:38,520 --> 00:12:40,320 Speaker 1: the end of the season, they can cut you. But 245 00:12:40,440 --> 00:12:42,040 Speaker 1: I think if he wants to go to one of 246 00:12:42,040 --> 00:12:44,880 Speaker 1: the teams that he's desiring to go to, he's going 247 00:12:44,960 --> 00:12:47,160 Speaker 1: to have to kind of think outside the box. If 248 00:12:47,160 --> 00:12:49,240 Speaker 1: he just wants to go to a team, you know, 249 00:12:49,440 --> 00:12:51,480 Speaker 1: bad teams are not going to sign him. It doesn't 250 00:12:51,480 --> 00:12:53,680 Speaker 1: make any sense. And if you're him, like he's not 251 00:12:53,720 --> 00:12:56,640 Speaker 1: going to be interested in those teams. Obviously everyone's talking 252 00:12:56,640 --> 00:12:59,640 Speaker 1: about the Bills and the Chiefs. Like, if I am him, 253 00:13:00,000 --> 00:13:02,520 Speaker 1: he has made an astronomical amount of money. And I'm 254 00:13:02,559 --> 00:13:05,120 Speaker 1: not one to tell you to take pay cuts or 255 00:13:05,440 --> 00:13:08,120 Speaker 1: you know, I don't care how much money you make, 256 00:13:08,160 --> 00:13:10,439 Speaker 1: whether you make a hundred million dollars or ten dollars, 257 00:13:10,559 --> 00:13:13,760 Speaker 1: it's irrelevant to me. But from a football standpoint, if 258 00:13:13,800 --> 00:13:15,679 Speaker 1: you want to have success and money's never going to 259 00:13:15,720 --> 00:13:18,400 Speaker 1: be an issue in your life, given how much you've made, 260 00:13:18,920 --> 00:13:22,160 Speaker 1: you know, these last five six years playing in the league, Like, 261 00:13:22,200 --> 00:13:24,280 Speaker 1: I don't think it's crazy to take a little less 262 00:13:24,720 --> 00:13:28,240 Speaker 1: or an incentive base deal to go play with Josh Allen, 263 00:13:28,520 --> 00:13:31,760 Speaker 1: to go play with Patrick Mahomes, and specifically if Andy 264 00:13:31,800 --> 00:13:35,880 Speaker 1: and the Chiefs are interested, like, that's probably where i'd go, 265 00:13:35,920 --> 00:13:38,480 Speaker 1: bro Like, I mean, that's that would be the team 266 00:13:38,520 --> 00:13:41,120 Speaker 1: I'd be sniffing around because even with the Bills, you go, well, 267 00:13:41,160 --> 00:13:42,800 Speaker 1: I get Diggs has kind of been up in arms, 268 00:13:42,800 --> 00:13:44,719 Speaker 1: but they've got Stephan Diggs, who's been one of the 269 00:13:44,720 --> 00:13:46,839 Speaker 1: best players in the league for at his position for 270 00:13:46,920 --> 00:13:49,600 Speaker 1: a while. Now. They just drafted a tight end really high. 271 00:13:49,600 --> 00:13:52,480 Speaker 1: They still got Dawson Knox. You know, with the Chiefs, 272 00:13:52,800 --> 00:13:55,800 Speaker 1: Juju Smith's not on the team anymore. Obviously, Tyreek's long gone. 273 00:13:56,480 --> 00:13:59,760 Speaker 1: Beside the tight ends and the running back like, you 274 00:13:59,760 --> 00:14:02,040 Speaker 1: get a lot of juice and the guy will clearly 275 00:14:02,080 --> 00:14:04,840 Speaker 1: throw you the ball. So to me, that's what I 276 00:14:04,880 --> 00:14:08,400 Speaker 1: would do. Obviously, financially, you're not gonna get what you want, 277 00:14:08,760 --> 00:14:11,240 Speaker 1: and I get being mad like, well, I'm better Odell Beckham. 278 00:14:11,280 --> 00:14:14,160 Speaker 1: Well true, you know that's that's true, But that's not 279 00:14:14,200 --> 00:14:16,679 Speaker 1: always the way the world works. You know, Jalen Hurts 280 00:14:16,679 --> 00:14:19,160 Speaker 1: and Lamar Jackson. I would rather have those guys than 281 00:14:19,200 --> 00:14:22,040 Speaker 1: Deshaun Watson. Well, those guys got way less than DeShawn 282 00:14:22,080 --> 00:14:25,520 Speaker 1: Watson in terms of guaranteed. You know, it's sometimes the 283 00:14:25,560 --> 00:14:28,160 Speaker 1: way it works. Just because someone does a terrible contract 284 00:14:28,240 --> 00:14:31,240 Speaker 1: or a terrible business deal does not mean the next 285 00:14:31,280 --> 00:14:34,200 Speaker 1: person is going to get that amount. And that's probably 286 00:14:34,200 --> 00:14:36,280 Speaker 1: the case here. And if he just wants to take 287 00:14:36,280 --> 00:14:39,040 Speaker 1: the most money, which will be interested, Like, I don't 288 00:14:39,120 --> 00:14:41,760 Speaker 1: totally blame. That's kind of the way football players think 289 00:14:41,760 --> 00:14:45,480 Speaker 1: because their career is relatively shorter. But to me, if 290 00:14:45,480 --> 00:14:49,320 Speaker 1: I'm him the chiefs, I'm actively working with Veitch and Andy, like, 291 00:14:49,360 --> 00:14:52,200 Speaker 1: how do we make this happen? Before we dive into 292 00:14:52,240 --> 00:14:55,120 Speaker 1: what's next? Do you know that Angie's list is now 293 00:14:55,160 --> 00:14:58,640 Speaker 1: Angie your Home for Everything home and it's someone who 294 00:14:58,680 --> 00:15:01,880 Speaker 1: is currently house shopping and who has bought property. Before 295 00:15:01,920 --> 00:15:04,440 Speaker 1: you walk in, you go, well, I need to fix 296 00:15:04,440 --> 00:15:06,960 Speaker 1: the kitchen, I need to want to improve this bathroom. 297 00:15:07,280 --> 00:15:09,680 Speaker 1: I want to fix some stuff in the backyard. 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You said that Downing 317 00:16:25,520 --> 00:16:28,600 Speaker 1: was bad for the Raiders and was most likely going 318 00:16:28,640 --> 00:16:31,400 Speaker 1: to be bad for the Titans. I don't remember saying that. 319 00:16:31,760 --> 00:16:34,520 Speaker 1: Why is it that you could see this but a 320 00:16:34,560 --> 00:16:37,160 Speaker 1: staff full of people who could not see this coming? 321 00:16:37,520 --> 00:16:41,240 Speaker 1: I guess my question is why do teams consistently hire 322 00:16:41,680 --> 00:16:47,080 Speaker 1: failing coaches when the fan can tell it won't work. Thanks. 323 00:16:48,600 --> 00:16:52,080 Speaker 1: I was on the golf course yesterday with a buddy 324 00:16:52,080 --> 00:16:58,000 Speaker 1: of mine who works in the golfing business, and you know, 325 00:16:58,040 --> 00:17:01,520 Speaker 1: it was part of a pretty big operation that a 326 00:17:01,520 --> 00:17:05,439 Speaker 1: big company that's involved with, you know, sponsoring golfers. I mean, 327 00:17:05,480 --> 00:17:09,120 Speaker 1: they sponsor all athletes, but we are just he focuses 328 00:17:09,119 --> 00:17:12,479 Speaker 1: on golf. And we were talking about, like, you know, 329 00:17:12,520 --> 00:17:15,880 Speaker 1: how they do deals with players and agents and it's 330 00:17:15,960 --> 00:17:18,920 Speaker 1: just there's a certain agency that they like to work with. 331 00:17:19,680 --> 00:17:21,679 Speaker 1: And I was like, you know, people like doing business 332 00:17:22,200 --> 00:17:25,359 Speaker 1: with people they like. You know, think about most of 333 00:17:25,400 --> 00:17:29,080 Speaker 1: our own businesses. Who do you end up doing business with? 334 00:17:29,359 --> 00:17:29,560 Speaker 2: Now? 335 00:17:29,600 --> 00:17:32,960 Speaker 1: Obviously you have to it has to make sense, but 336 00:17:33,119 --> 00:17:35,280 Speaker 1: you lean, if you think things are going to work 337 00:17:35,320 --> 00:17:39,119 Speaker 1: out with people you're comfortable with, people you know, people 338 00:17:39,200 --> 00:17:43,800 Speaker 1: you like doing business with. And I think in football coaching, 339 00:17:44,040 --> 00:17:47,119 Speaker 1: and this is probably true, it's scouting too, is people 340 00:17:47,119 --> 00:17:51,040 Speaker 1: are hired because I like you, or we have the 341 00:17:51,080 --> 00:17:54,320 Speaker 1: same agent and we know each other. As stupid as 342 00:17:54,320 --> 00:17:59,240 Speaker 1: that sounds, it happens a lot. And I think Todd 343 00:17:59,240 --> 00:18:02,360 Speaker 1: Downing now can assistantly gets these jobs people like him. 344 00:18:03,000 --> 00:18:04,880 Speaker 1: I mean I know people that have worked with them 345 00:18:05,280 --> 00:18:09,840 Speaker 1: really really liked the guy. Derek Carr loved him, right, 346 00:18:09,880 --> 00:18:13,040 Speaker 1: I think Mike Rabel liked him a lot. But like, 347 00:18:13,160 --> 00:18:16,800 Speaker 1: and that's the thing in football, you know, in some businesses, right, 348 00:18:16,960 --> 00:18:19,600 Speaker 1: you can get away with you know he's not as good, 349 00:18:19,640 --> 00:18:23,280 Speaker 1: but it doesn't necessarily matter, right, Like you know, your 350 00:18:23,320 --> 00:18:25,400 Speaker 1: boy might have just closed on a house here in AZ. 351 00:18:25,680 --> 00:18:29,080 Speaker 1: I got a little remodel coming up, Like, I want 352 00:18:29,080 --> 00:18:32,520 Speaker 1: to like the guy who's doing the romodel, but you know, 353 00:18:32,560 --> 00:18:34,720 Speaker 1: some of these quotes, I'm getting shit. If I'm gonna 354 00:18:34,720 --> 00:18:37,199 Speaker 1: spend this amount of money, you better be good. Like, 355 00:18:37,320 --> 00:18:39,720 Speaker 1: I don't know anything about this, so I'm very dependent 356 00:18:39,760 --> 00:18:42,640 Speaker 1: on you being good. Ultimately, I don't give a shit. 357 00:18:42,720 --> 00:18:46,000 Speaker 1: If we're friends, I want you to do good job. Right, 358 00:18:46,240 --> 00:18:49,159 Speaker 1: And if I'm a head coach and I'm hiring a coordinator, 359 00:18:49,800 --> 00:18:52,879 Speaker 1: especially hiring a coordinator at a at a side of 360 00:18:52,880 --> 00:18:57,200 Speaker 1: the ball that I don't focus on, like, I'm pretty 361 00:18:57,200 --> 00:19:00,879 Speaker 1: dependent on you. So whether we're buddies and whether we 362 00:19:01,320 --> 00:19:04,280 Speaker 1: like having cocktails and shooting the shit watching some games 363 00:19:04,320 --> 00:19:08,080 Speaker 1: on TV shouldn't really matter that much. But the sad 364 00:19:08,160 --> 00:19:11,679 Speaker 1: reality is, in this business and in every business, it 365 00:19:11,720 --> 00:19:15,480 Speaker 1: does matter a lot, and like why was Matt Patricia 366 00:19:15,560 --> 00:19:19,040 Speaker 1: hired for Bill Belichick? Bill liked him. Bill liked him 367 00:19:19,040 --> 00:19:23,760 Speaker 1: a lot, And it has devastating consequences when that's strictly 368 00:19:23,800 --> 00:19:28,840 Speaker 1: what you do right now. Sometimes it works, like why 369 00:19:29,119 --> 00:19:33,320 Speaker 1: was Demiko Ryans and Robert Sala Shanahan's last two defensive 370 00:19:33,359 --> 00:19:37,360 Speaker 1: coordinators first and foremost because he knew him. He had 371 00:19:37,400 --> 00:19:41,040 Speaker 1: worked with Robert Solo with the Texans. Sala was best 372 00:19:41,040 --> 00:19:46,320 Speaker 1: friends with Matt Lafleur and like I think, was best 373 00:19:46,320 --> 00:19:49,320 Speaker 1: man in his wedding, So they had these connections. They 374 00:19:49,400 --> 00:19:52,080 Speaker 1: knew each other. And obviously Demiko he had coached him 375 00:19:52,080 --> 00:19:55,679 Speaker 1: and been around him, so he was like, on the 376 00:19:55,680 --> 00:19:59,040 Speaker 1: most basic level, he was comfortable with the person. Now 377 00:19:59,080 --> 00:20:00,720 Speaker 1: I would sure Kyle would tell you and listen, I 378 00:20:00,720 --> 00:20:02,760 Speaker 1: will tell you this about Demico. Dimiko has been good 379 00:20:02,760 --> 00:20:05,120 Speaker 1: at everything he'd ever had been. But like Robert Solo, 380 00:20:05,200 --> 00:20:07,560 Speaker 1: the history had said, like, this is a pretty risky hire. 381 00:20:07,960 --> 00:20:13,400 Speaker 1: Now it worked out, But like look at the guys mcveighires, 382 00:20:14,880 --> 00:20:19,000 Speaker 1: and it's a lot of it works. But I don't know, man, 383 00:20:19,040 --> 00:20:24,400 Speaker 1: it's just the way the business works. Tardy Apps, that's 384 00:20:24,400 --> 00:20:29,040 Speaker 1: the name of this Instagram account, longtime listener, longtime Seahawks fan. 385 00:20:29,520 --> 00:20:31,560 Speaker 1: I'll be honest, I was one of the guys calling 386 00:20:31,600 --> 00:20:34,560 Speaker 1: for Pete and John's collective heads the last five years. 387 00:20:34,760 --> 00:20:37,680 Speaker 1: I thought Pete was done overrated, tone deaf, tuned out 388 00:20:37,880 --> 00:20:41,840 Speaker 1: whatever a Russ ruiner, et cetera. But looking at Belichick 389 00:20:41,880 --> 00:20:45,919 Speaker 1: struggled massively without Brady and the way Pete struggled with Russ, 390 00:20:46,400 --> 00:20:48,800 Speaker 1: by which I mean only go to the playoffs almost 391 00:20:48,800 --> 00:20:51,800 Speaker 1: every single year, it feels like Pete is almost as 392 00:20:51,800 --> 00:20:55,159 Speaker 1: good of a coach as Belichick. Sure, the rings the 393 00:20:55,240 --> 00:20:58,280 Speaker 1: rings are differential in all, but then again, if Russ 394 00:20:58,280 --> 00:21:02,640 Speaker 1: hadn't stunted Pete, who knows how many more US Seahawks 395 00:21:02,680 --> 00:21:05,720 Speaker 1: fans could have won? I know you Seahawks fans could 396 00:21:05,760 --> 00:21:07,960 Speaker 1: have won a lot more. If Pete makes it the 397 00:21:08,040 --> 00:21:11,240 Speaker 1: NFC Championship game this year with Gino or minimum annihilates 398 00:21:11,760 --> 00:21:16,040 Speaker 1: the shah Mahan debacled down under where are the rings? 399 00:21:16,080 --> 00:21:19,240 Speaker 1: Mister harbought two point zero? I think it's time. I 400 00:21:19,320 --> 00:21:22,040 Speaker 1: think was that a shot at me? Was that the 401 00:21:22,119 --> 00:21:24,080 Speaker 1: time we all bowed to acknowledge how good of a 402 00:21:24,080 --> 00:21:26,600 Speaker 1: coach Pete is? Sorry for the ramp do you think 403 00:21:26,600 --> 00:21:29,919 Speaker 1: the Seahawks will be way better this year? Let's say this. 404 00:21:31,000 --> 00:21:33,920 Speaker 1: I'm with you. I never crushed Pete for the Russ 405 00:21:33,920 --> 00:21:37,240 Speaker 1: stuff because I thought, let Russ cook. You know, It's 406 00:21:37,320 --> 00:21:41,560 Speaker 1: like Pete s Now has two decades worth of the 407 00:21:41,640 --> 00:21:44,520 Speaker 1: dude's a winner. The dude won without Russ, and the 408 00:21:44,600 --> 00:21:49,200 Speaker 1: dude's winning again without Russ. So Pete's history is success 409 00:21:49,640 --> 00:21:52,919 Speaker 1: with or without Russell Wilson. Now, I do think it 410 00:21:52,960 --> 00:21:54,960 Speaker 1: was fair to think they were gonna suck last year 411 00:21:55,040 --> 00:21:58,119 Speaker 1: because they were banking on Gino Smith Andrew Locke. Now 412 00:21:58,119 --> 00:22:00,879 Speaker 1: it turns out Geno Smith had a career year, and 413 00:22:00,960 --> 00:22:04,520 Speaker 1: to me, their team on paper is better around Geno Smith. 414 00:22:05,040 --> 00:22:08,399 Speaker 1: I think the question is the hardest thing at the 415 00:22:08,520 --> 00:22:13,000 Speaker 1: highest level of sports. You could argue any business. It's like, 416 00:22:13,119 --> 00:22:16,080 Speaker 1: anyone can have a good year, anyone can make money 417 00:22:16,160 --> 00:22:20,280 Speaker 1: for two quarters. Anyone hel Michael Block finished top fifteen 418 00:22:20,320 --> 00:22:23,359 Speaker 1: at a major and then he shot eighty one the 419 00:22:23,400 --> 00:22:26,879 Speaker 1: next round, Like, can you do it over and over again? 420 00:22:27,119 --> 00:22:30,320 Speaker 1: I know Pete? Can I know dk Metcalf? Can I 421 00:22:30,359 --> 00:22:31,760 Speaker 1: know Tyler Lockett will be good? 422 00:22:32,440 --> 00:22:32,640 Speaker 2: Right? 423 00:22:33,160 --> 00:22:36,160 Speaker 1: I expect their defense to continue to improve. Can Geno 424 00:22:36,240 --> 00:22:39,600 Speaker 1: Smith have another season where he throws thirty touchdowns. I'm 425 00:22:39,680 --> 00:22:42,640 Speaker 1: rooting for him. Every time you hear him talk. He's 426 00:22:42,640 --> 00:22:45,680 Speaker 1: fucking impressive. Every time that you hear the team talk 427 00:22:45,720 --> 00:22:48,639 Speaker 1: about him. Sherman had him on his podcast here in 428 00:22:48,680 --> 00:22:51,159 Speaker 1: the volume. I'm a Geno Smith fan. I didn't know 429 00:22:51,160 --> 00:22:54,159 Speaker 1: that much about the guy. Easy to root for, but 430 00:22:54,280 --> 00:22:56,000 Speaker 1: there's one thing easy to root for a guy like, 431 00:22:56,160 --> 00:22:58,480 Speaker 1: is he gonna sustain this career? Is he just gonna 432 00:22:58,520 --> 00:23:03,040 Speaker 1: have a second career renaissance? Maybe? I don't know. I mean, 433 00:23:03,080 --> 00:23:05,320 Speaker 1: I wouldn't you know if you said, hey, you got 434 00:23:05,320 --> 00:23:08,320 Speaker 1: to put let's just pick a number five thousand dollars, 435 00:23:09,040 --> 00:23:12,160 Speaker 1: would you put five thousand dollars on Geno replicating last 436 00:23:12,200 --> 00:23:15,280 Speaker 1: season or bet against it? You would say history would 437 00:23:15,320 --> 00:23:17,359 Speaker 1: say that a guy you just look at the history 438 00:23:17,400 --> 00:23:20,159 Speaker 1: of Gino's career, you would probably bet against that. I 439 00:23:20,160 --> 00:23:22,680 Speaker 1: wouldn't fel great though, if you told me, I think 440 00:23:22,720 --> 00:23:25,240 Speaker 1: they'll be if Gino's good again, Yeah, they'll win ten games. 441 00:23:25,880 --> 00:23:28,159 Speaker 1: Their running game is gonna be really good. We know 442 00:23:28,200 --> 00:23:32,560 Speaker 1: they got explosive offensive players. I think anyone hating on 443 00:23:32,640 --> 00:23:35,680 Speaker 1: Pete though, listen, there's one thing like on an individual 444 00:23:35,720 --> 00:23:37,199 Speaker 1: game to be like Pete could have been better. If 445 00:23:37,240 --> 00:23:42,840 Speaker 1: that's fair, Belichick's a better coach. Pete, though more versatile coach. 446 00:23:43,359 --> 00:23:45,760 Speaker 1: Could Belichick have ever gone to college and do what 447 00:23:45,800 --> 00:23:50,000 Speaker 1: Pete did? No, Pete Carroll is everything urban Meyer wanted 448 00:23:50,040 --> 00:23:52,639 Speaker 1: to be. Dominate college and then go to the pros. 449 00:23:52,760 --> 00:23:54,800 Speaker 1: Urban Meyer was like, get out of here, buddy, you 450 00:23:54,840 --> 00:23:57,760 Speaker 1: don't belong in the big leagues. So yeah, I think 451 00:23:57,800 --> 00:24:00,800 Speaker 1: Pete Carroll has like one of the mos unique career, 452 00:24:00,840 --> 00:24:03,880 Speaker 1: Like he's a Jimmy Johnson level career, right, I mean 453 00:24:03,960 --> 00:24:06,560 Speaker 1: one in college, one in the pros. Dominated in both. 454 00:24:08,160 --> 00:24:09,840 Speaker 1: I mean he had for one of the a four 455 00:24:09,880 --> 00:24:11,920 Speaker 1: year stretch, one of the greatest defenses we've ever seen. 456 00:24:12,960 --> 00:24:15,160 Speaker 1: So yeah, I'm with you on Pete. My only question 457 00:24:15,200 --> 00:24:17,720 Speaker 1: for your squad is Geno. I saw him play the 458 00:24:17,760 --> 00:24:19,199 Speaker 1: Niners and I was like, you know, he plays some 459 00:24:19,240 --> 00:24:21,600 Speaker 1: good defense. Didn't quite as a season went on, You're like, huh, 460 00:24:23,040 --> 00:24:25,639 Speaker 1: rooting for the guy. I'm not. I'm pro Geno Smith. 461 00:24:25,680 --> 00:24:28,000 Speaker 1: How I like Geno Smith? If you said, hey, would 462 00:24:28,000 --> 00:24:30,000 Speaker 1: you rather hang out with Gino Smith or Russell Wilson 463 00:24:30,400 --> 00:24:34,520 Speaker 1: one million percent? Geno Smith? What do you think about 464 00:24:34,560 --> 00:24:37,800 Speaker 1: the NFL adapting a contract that only applies to players. 465 00:24:37,800 --> 00:24:42,399 Speaker 1: The organizational organization drafts like the Bird rule in the NBA, 466 00:24:43,080 --> 00:24:47,080 Speaker 1: drafting and developed talent should be rewarded. Side note, I 467 00:24:47,119 --> 00:24:50,440 Speaker 1: really enjoy anytime you talk of any type economics in business. 468 00:24:50,920 --> 00:24:54,399 Speaker 1: Appreciate it. I listen. It comes up a lot. I 469 00:24:54,440 --> 00:24:56,840 Speaker 1: was listening to Bill Simmons podcast. He thought that it 470 00:24:56,840 --> 00:24:59,600 Speaker 1: should be people have been talking about it forever in 471 00:24:59,640 --> 00:25:03,920 Speaker 1: the end, like you should get rewarded for like Steph 472 00:25:04,000 --> 00:25:06,760 Speaker 1: Curry his fifty million dollars should not count against a 473 00:25:06,760 --> 00:25:08,680 Speaker 1: salary cap when he's been on your team fifteen years, 474 00:25:08,760 --> 00:25:11,320 Speaker 1: or Yiannis or whoever. And we say this all the 475 00:25:11,359 --> 00:25:15,320 Speaker 1: time in football, like you should get rewarded for drafting. Well, 476 00:25:15,440 --> 00:25:18,920 Speaker 1: we're in football. You can't keep everybody right. You got 477 00:25:18,920 --> 00:25:23,040 Speaker 1: to let guys go. But that's never changed, and it's 478 00:25:23,040 --> 00:25:26,080 Speaker 1: something the media harps on forever. It's a lot of 479 00:25:26,119 --> 00:25:29,199 Speaker 1: ideas that people have talked about. Obviously you're bringing it up. 480 00:25:29,440 --> 00:25:31,159 Speaker 1: I just think it's it's one of those things that 481 00:25:31,320 --> 00:25:35,960 Speaker 1: never feels even remotely close in NFL circles. For whatever reason, 482 00:25:36,080 --> 00:25:38,919 Speaker 1: I don't know why, but it never feels like it 483 00:25:38,960 --> 00:25:42,520 Speaker 1: has any traction. We never go to the these NFL 484 00:25:42,560 --> 00:25:45,399 Speaker 1: owners meetings at one of the local four seasons in 485 00:25:45,400 --> 00:25:46,800 Speaker 1: some sweet city and be like, you know what they're 486 00:25:46,800 --> 00:25:50,080 Speaker 1: talking about this year? How if you have a guy 487 00:25:50,160 --> 00:25:53,680 Speaker 1: on your team more than eight years, his salary cap 488 00:25:53,760 --> 00:25:56,800 Speaker 1: hit should be half as much as a salary or whatever. 489 00:25:57,040 --> 00:25:59,200 Speaker 1: It never comes up. So yeah, I mean I'd be 490 00:25:59,240 --> 00:26:01,840 Speaker 1: all for it. I think it should be rewarded, but 491 00:26:01,920 --> 00:26:06,040 Speaker 1: it never is, Like you should be rewarded for drafting. Well, 492 00:26:06,119 --> 00:26:09,240 Speaker 1: But I also, like one thing I've always said, a 493 00:26:09,320 --> 00:26:11,639 Speaker 1: GM's job is about more than drafting, Like, Okay, you 494 00:26:11,720 --> 00:26:13,480 Speaker 1: miss on a draftic, who cares? Can you sign a 495 00:26:13,480 --> 00:26:15,800 Speaker 1: good free agent? Can you find a good undrafted free agent? 496 00:26:15,880 --> 00:26:18,280 Speaker 1: Can you find a good guy on some other teams 497 00:26:18,280 --> 00:26:21,240 Speaker 1: practice squad? Like building a team is not just about 498 00:26:21,320 --> 00:26:24,600 Speaker 1: quote unquote drafting. Obviously, it's the lifeblood of the business, 499 00:26:24,680 --> 00:26:28,000 Speaker 1: Like college football is life blood of your business. Recruiting 500 00:26:28,240 --> 00:26:30,639 Speaker 1: kind of now with the transfer portal, like I can 501 00:26:30,680 --> 00:26:33,119 Speaker 1: find sweet dudes in the transfer portal. I didn't know 502 00:26:33,200 --> 00:26:36,440 Speaker 1: until the draft that the dude the Lions drafted Gibbs, 503 00:26:36,920 --> 00:26:39,359 Speaker 1: like the dude was on Alabama was ah he started 504 00:26:39,400 --> 00:26:43,560 Speaker 1: Alabama they sign, they transferportal them from Georgia Tech. Talk 505 00:26:43,560 --> 00:26:45,639 Speaker 1: about a great move by that guy, Like see at 506 00:26:45,640 --> 00:26:48,520 Speaker 1: george Tech. I'm going to Alabama. Well, how's this gonna 507 00:26:48,520 --> 00:26:49,800 Speaker 1: work out? Do you even get any playing time? 508 00:26:49,840 --> 00:26:50,040 Speaker 2: Yeah? 509 00:26:50,080 --> 00:26:52,360 Speaker 1: Not only am I gonna kick ass for them? I'm 510 00:26:52,359 --> 00:26:56,840 Speaker 1: gonna get drafted in the top fifteen. So I hear you. 511 00:26:56,960 --> 00:26:59,800 Speaker 1: It just it doesn't feel like it ever gets remotely 512 00:26:59,800 --> 00:27:05,960 Speaker 1: clear happening. Greetings from Berlin, Germany. I'm a Bengals fan 513 00:27:06,000 --> 00:27:08,520 Speaker 1: as when wondering why playoff teams like the Bengals are 514 00:27:08,520 --> 00:27:11,800 Speaker 1: Eagles still have thirteen to fourteen million left in cap 515 00:27:11,880 --> 00:27:15,320 Speaker 1: space per overthcap dot com. If you are a Super 516 00:27:15,320 --> 00:27:19,119 Speaker 1: Bowl contender, shouldn't you spend all the available cap space 517 00:27:19,520 --> 00:27:22,800 Speaker 1: in order to get the best team possible on the field. 518 00:27:23,080 --> 00:27:26,160 Speaker 1: I suppose there are still capable veterans available at every 519 00:27:26,200 --> 00:27:30,000 Speaker 1: position group, Especially the Bengals still have some depth issues 520 00:27:30,080 --> 00:27:33,040 Speaker 1: on their defensive line and are not spending the money 521 00:27:33,119 --> 00:27:35,960 Speaker 1: on a veteran. When you look at the chart over 522 00:27:36,000 --> 00:27:39,040 Speaker 1: the cap dot Com, the Bengals and Eagles are the 523 00:27:39,040 --> 00:27:42,200 Speaker 1: only playoff teams with so much cap space. Why are 524 00:27:42,200 --> 00:27:46,960 Speaker 1: teams in general not spending cap space. Well, I think 525 00:27:46,960 --> 00:27:50,760 Speaker 1: it's pretty simple. Excuse the Bengals, for example, they could 526 00:27:50,800 --> 00:27:56,760 Speaker 1: extend two guys this offseason, Joe Burrow and t Higgins, 527 00:27:57,280 --> 00:28:00,920 Speaker 1: and immediately use up that cap space. They have internal 528 00:28:00,960 --> 00:28:05,680 Speaker 1: candidates to extend to utilize that cap space. And in general, 529 00:28:06,040 --> 00:28:08,919 Speaker 1: should you just use the cap space to use the 530 00:28:08,920 --> 00:28:12,960 Speaker 1: cap space? Right? Like, just because you have you don't 531 00:28:13,000 --> 00:28:14,840 Speaker 1: need to buy anything. You don't need to buy a home, 532 00:28:14,920 --> 00:28:16,760 Speaker 1: You don't need anything. Let's just say you got fifty 533 00:28:16,800 --> 00:28:20,800 Speaker 1: thousand dollars in a savings account. Like what if that 534 00:28:20,880 --> 00:28:24,560 Speaker 1: savings account is for a quote unquote rainy day, or 535 00:28:24,600 --> 00:28:27,600 Speaker 1: what if it's for like you easily could go like 536 00:28:27,760 --> 00:28:30,920 Speaker 1: buy a Rolex, buy a new car, Like you could 537 00:28:31,000 --> 00:28:33,040 Speaker 1: easily do things. But do you need a new car? 538 00:28:33,400 --> 00:28:35,600 Speaker 1: Do you need a watch? You would you even wear 539 00:28:35,600 --> 00:28:38,200 Speaker 1: a watch? Like, Yeah, I could go sign some I'd 540 00:28:38,240 --> 00:28:41,600 Speaker 1: go sign DeAndre Hopkins, but like, is that more important 541 00:28:41,640 --> 00:28:43,840 Speaker 1: than signing the guy? Here's the other thing, like the 542 00:28:43,880 --> 00:28:47,000 Speaker 1: savings analogy, but what if something crazy happens? What if 543 00:28:47,000 --> 00:28:50,120 Speaker 1: a good deal comes available? Like, you can always make trades. 544 00:28:50,360 --> 00:28:54,040 Speaker 1: Sometimes making trades, guys have bigger salaries. Remember a couple 545 00:28:54,000 --> 00:28:57,120 Speaker 1: of years ago, the Rams had to give up a 546 00:28:57,160 --> 00:29:00,520 Speaker 1: second and third round pick to get von Miller because 547 00:29:01,720 --> 00:29:04,160 Speaker 1: they didn't have any salary cap space. So the Broncos 548 00:29:04,200 --> 00:29:06,400 Speaker 1: had to eat the cap space. They might not have 549 00:29:06,440 --> 00:29:09,080 Speaker 1: had to give that up if they would have had obviously, 550 00:29:09,160 --> 00:29:11,560 Speaker 1: you know, they couldn't have foreseen that happening, but if 551 00:29:11,600 --> 00:29:14,120 Speaker 1: they would have had more cap space. So there's a 552 00:29:14,120 --> 00:29:17,480 Speaker 1: give and take with everything having cap space. To me, 553 00:29:17,680 --> 00:29:19,840 Speaker 1: if there are specific players, like if you could have 554 00:29:19,920 --> 00:29:24,720 Speaker 1: signed player X one improves your team, but most free 555 00:29:24,720 --> 00:29:28,560 Speaker 1: agents suck. Look at this free agent class beside like 556 00:29:28,640 --> 00:29:31,680 Speaker 1: Javon Hargrave, who was good in the free agent class 557 00:29:31,720 --> 00:29:33,880 Speaker 1: that got quote unquote a lot of money mcglinchy. Can 558 00:29:33,920 --> 00:29:38,680 Speaker 1: you imagine giving a glinchy fifty million dollars? So just 559 00:29:38,720 --> 00:29:40,760 Speaker 1: because the guy's a free agent and you never know, 560 00:29:40,800 --> 00:29:42,880 Speaker 1: like guys get cut at any moment, Guys are available 561 00:29:42,920 --> 00:29:48,080 Speaker 1: trades at any moment. Having having flexibility is always smart, 562 00:29:48,440 --> 00:29:51,040 Speaker 1: right And this back to the savings analogy. If you 563 00:29:51,120 --> 00:29:53,560 Speaker 1: just have endlessen not everyone can save. I'm not saying 564 00:29:53,600 --> 00:29:56,040 Speaker 1: you should have money saved at all times, but when 565 00:29:56,080 --> 00:29:58,360 Speaker 1: you just have nothing in your savings account, you have 566 00:29:58,480 --> 00:30:01,600 Speaker 1: no flexibility. The moment you get screwed, you get laid off, 567 00:30:01,640 --> 00:30:03,320 Speaker 1: you don't have a job, you're not making any money, 568 00:30:03,360 --> 00:30:06,200 Speaker 1: like you are in dire straits immediately. But when you 569 00:30:06,240 --> 00:30:08,760 Speaker 1: got a little nest egg, like yeah, something bad happens, 570 00:30:08,960 --> 00:30:12,040 Speaker 1: there's a medical emergency, you know, you got a little 571 00:30:12,040 --> 00:30:14,400 Speaker 1: wiggle room. And that to me, a salary cap space. 572 00:30:14,720 --> 00:30:18,200 Speaker 1: It just kind of gives you wiggle room. So like, 573 00:30:18,280 --> 00:30:20,800 Speaker 1: if you can give me one specific example, like this 574 00:30:20,880 --> 00:30:23,760 Speaker 1: player they should have signed, and sometimes that happens, and 575 00:30:23,800 --> 00:30:26,280 Speaker 1: then that said player in free agency or that was 576 00:30:26,320 --> 00:30:29,760 Speaker 1: available turns out not to be good. So I'm never 577 00:30:29,960 --> 00:30:35,320 Speaker 1: opposed to having some salary cap space for good teams 578 00:30:35,360 --> 00:30:39,480 Speaker 1: because it does give them a lot of flexibility. Even 579 00:30:39,520 --> 00:30:41,360 Speaker 1: with as much content as you put out, I am 580 00:30:41,400 --> 00:30:45,160 Speaker 1: still always looking for podcasts with more football content. What 581 00:30:45,280 --> 00:30:50,520 Speaker 1: are some podcasts you listen to recommend? I would say 582 00:30:50,520 --> 00:30:55,000 Speaker 1: the podcast football podcast I listened to. I would say 583 00:30:55,000 --> 00:30:58,720 Speaker 1: the only pure football podcast I listened to would be 584 00:30:58,840 --> 00:31:01,720 Speaker 1: I listened to Michael Lombardi podcasts. He can be a 585 00:31:01,760 --> 00:31:03,960 Speaker 1: little angry listen. I like him, I know he knows 586 00:31:03,960 --> 00:31:06,760 Speaker 1: his shit. Can be a little angry for me at times, 587 00:31:06,800 --> 00:31:09,880 Speaker 1: not that I'm against negativity and you know, like you know, 588 00:31:09,920 --> 00:31:12,120 Speaker 1: I listened to him today on the Jimmy Garoppolo thing. 589 00:31:12,320 --> 00:31:15,320 Speaker 1: It's like, bro, let's just call a spade a spape 590 00:31:15,320 --> 00:31:18,360 Speaker 1: that they sign an injured player. I know you're boys 591 00:31:18,360 --> 00:31:22,320 Speaker 1: with Josh McDaniels, but the risk is not the the 592 00:31:22,360 --> 00:31:25,600 Speaker 1: addendum in the contract, it's why are you signing this 593 00:31:25,600 --> 00:31:28,960 Speaker 1: player in the first place. Uh. But yeah, I don't 594 00:31:28,960 --> 00:31:31,680 Speaker 1: honestly listen to that much football content. Now. The one 595 00:31:31,720 --> 00:31:35,080 Speaker 1: thing I've started to do, I listened to Chris Long 596 00:31:35,240 --> 00:31:37,880 Speaker 1: whenever he has on like he had on Jason Kelsey, 597 00:31:38,160 --> 00:31:40,680 Speaker 1: that that was good when the Kelsey brothers have on 598 00:31:40,760 --> 00:31:43,600 Speaker 1: a good guess. So I will listen to players podcasts 599 00:31:44,040 --> 00:31:47,360 Speaker 1: when they have guests because I think their relationship with 600 00:31:47,440 --> 00:31:50,920 Speaker 1: those guys are something you're not getting anywhere else. Right, 601 00:31:50,960 --> 00:31:53,840 Speaker 1: they know him, they're friends, they played with him. I 602 00:31:53,840 --> 00:31:57,240 Speaker 1: think it's pretty cool. So I will listen to those interviews. 603 00:31:58,080 --> 00:32:01,560 Speaker 1: But honestly, I don't. I don't listen to that much 604 00:32:01,680 --> 00:32:05,120 Speaker 1: football content, to be honest with, Especially in the offseason. 605 00:32:06,040 --> 00:32:09,960 Speaker 1: I tried to listen to more finance podcasts. I listened 606 00:32:09,960 --> 00:32:15,720 Speaker 1: to NBA podcasts. Yeah, I listened to a lot of 607 00:32:15,720 --> 00:32:20,720 Speaker 1: golf content. I listened to a lot of golf podcasts. Hey, John, 608 00:32:20,760 --> 00:32:23,520 Speaker 1: Seahawks fan here, Why do you think Seattle decided to 609 00:32:23,520 --> 00:32:26,360 Speaker 1: invest their fifth overall pick at cornerback when they knew 610 00:32:26,400 --> 00:32:29,040 Speaker 1: they needed to impact players on the defensive line. The 611 00:32:29,080 --> 00:32:32,080 Speaker 1: pass rush was definitely one of the glaring issues last season. 612 00:32:32,400 --> 00:32:36,840 Speaker 1: Your thoughts, because I think Seattle, over their decade of 613 00:32:36,880 --> 00:32:40,760 Speaker 1: success with the Russ era, had been burned a couple 614 00:32:40,880 --> 00:32:44,600 Speaker 1: times by character guys and they've and Pete Carroll's always 615 00:32:44,600 --> 00:32:48,200 Speaker 1: been pretty open minded to that. But one thing I 616 00:32:48,200 --> 00:32:52,400 Speaker 1: think they learned last year removing Russ, who I don't 617 00:32:52,400 --> 00:32:56,520 Speaker 1: want to call it cancer, but was clearly an issue 618 00:32:56,560 --> 00:32:59,479 Speaker 1: for them, and not in like a legal way, but 619 00:32:59,600 --> 00:33:03,120 Speaker 1: just in the egomaniac way that it was like, you know, 620 00:33:03,480 --> 00:33:05,920 Speaker 1: we had a team that was just full of guys 621 00:33:05,960 --> 00:33:08,440 Speaker 1: that was just doing whatever it took to win and 622 00:33:08,560 --> 00:33:12,200 Speaker 1: just good guys. And they could have taken Jalen Carter, 623 00:33:12,800 --> 00:33:14,440 Speaker 1: and I think the difference is, and I don't know, 624 00:33:14,600 --> 00:33:16,520 Speaker 1: maybe you've listened to I haven't listened to every press 625 00:33:16,520 --> 00:33:20,520 Speaker 1: conference they've given. Like Witherspoon was the type guy that 626 00:33:20,680 --> 00:33:27,360 Speaker 1: was like this guy is just not gonna miss this guy, character, physicality, play, 627 00:33:28,240 --> 00:33:30,920 Speaker 1: just kind of had like a Cam Chancellor Richard Sherman 628 00:33:31,040 --> 00:33:34,760 Speaker 1: vibe to him as a person player just bat right. 629 00:33:34,800 --> 00:33:39,120 Speaker 1: It was just gonna work where Jalen was a huge 630 00:33:39,360 --> 00:33:41,480 Speaker 1: I don't want to say a hail Mary, but could 631 00:33:41,600 --> 00:33:44,360 Speaker 1: blow up in your face. And I think what they 632 00:33:44,480 --> 00:33:47,640 Speaker 1: just experienced, They're like, we don't want to risk what 633 00:33:47,760 --> 00:33:50,720 Speaker 1: we have where the Eagles go. We have so much 634 00:33:50,760 --> 00:33:52,800 Speaker 1: of that at the highest level that we could take it. 635 00:33:53,200 --> 00:33:56,200 Speaker 1: So I supported them doing it. I think they saw 636 00:33:56,240 --> 00:34:02,040 Speaker 1: a lot of you know, the lob type mentality, mindset, 637 00:34:02,440 --> 00:34:08,120 Speaker 1: character type, you know, a profile in him, and I 638 00:34:08,400 --> 00:34:13,920 Speaker 1: can't I completely understand it. I think it's always easy. 639 00:34:14,719 --> 00:34:18,160 Speaker 1: And Jim Washburn, who is one of the best defensive 640 00:34:18,160 --> 00:34:22,040 Speaker 1: coaches of all time and now his protege, Chris Caserk 641 00:34:22,120 --> 00:34:24,120 Speaker 1: is the forty nine ers guy you know, used to 642 00:34:24,120 --> 00:34:26,360 Speaker 1: always say this and listen, Jim had no problem coaching 643 00:34:26,360 --> 00:34:29,000 Speaker 1: some crazies. But he's like, it's so easy for the 644 00:34:29,080 --> 00:34:32,000 Speaker 1: scouts to be like, listen, the guy's got some issues, 645 00:34:32,160 --> 00:34:35,560 Speaker 1: but I'm telling you, stude can rush the edge like 646 00:34:35,760 --> 00:34:38,960 Speaker 1: double teams. Good luck. No one's gonna stop him. He's like, ah, 647 00:34:38,960 --> 00:34:41,200 Speaker 1: that's great, but I got to deal with this guy 648 00:34:41,800 --> 00:34:44,440 Speaker 1: Monday through Saturday when you guys are in your office, 649 00:34:44,719 --> 00:34:47,560 Speaker 1: listen to sports talk radio, watching players bs and with 650 00:34:47,600 --> 00:34:49,879 Speaker 1: your buddies on the road. Right, I got to coach 651 00:34:49,920 --> 00:34:52,440 Speaker 1: this guy. I have to deal with him. You don't. 652 00:34:53,080 --> 00:34:57,000 Speaker 1: So it's it's easy for the scouts always to say 653 00:34:57,000 --> 00:34:57,840 Speaker 1: take this chance. 654 00:34:58,480 --> 00:34:58,640 Speaker 2: Right. 655 00:34:59,440 --> 00:35:03,319 Speaker 1: See, that's you know, saying, man, you should stay with her, right. 656 00:35:03,320 --> 00:35:06,680 Speaker 1: I think we always have when people get divorces or 657 00:35:06,680 --> 00:35:09,400 Speaker 1: people get married or whatever. Everyone on the outside always 658 00:35:09,480 --> 00:35:12,000 Speaker 1: has these opinions on relationships like are you the one 659 00:35:12,640 --> 00:35:14,719 Speaker 1: spending the night with her every night? Are you the 660 00:35:14,760 --> 00:35:17,200 Speaker 1: one living with her or him? 661 00:35:17,680 --> 00:35:17,839 Speaker 2: Right? 662 00:35:17,960 --> 00:35:21,160 Speaker 1: Is that the way because like that person usually knows better. 663 00:35:21,160 --> 00:35:23,360 Speaker 1: It's why whenever someone's like should I get a breakup 664 00:35:23,440 --> 00:35:26,160 Speaker 1: or whatever, it's like, only you know, it's I can't 665 00:35:26,200 --> 00:35:28,920 Speaker 1: tell you. I ain't laying down at night for the 666 00:35:29,000 --> 00:35:32,120 Speaker 1: last three years like you are, right. That's why coaches 667 00:35:32,160 --> 00:35:36,040 Speaker 1: sometimes now they can be negative and positive in ways 668 00:35:36,040 --> 00:35:38,120 Speaker 1: that like can be a little over the top just 669 00:35:38,160 --> 00:35:41,120 Speaker 1: in general, but that is a fair thing. Like the 670 00:35:41,160 --> 00:35:45,160 Speaker 1: position coach to deal with them in Pete's obviously very 671 00:35:45,200 --> 00:35:48,879 Speaker 1: hands on with the defense. Yeah, we'll end on that one. 672 00:35:49,200 --> 00:35:51,120 Speaker 1: Have a good have a good week, but I'll talk 673 00:35:51,120 --> 00:35:53,120 Speaker 1: to you tomorrow and talk soon. 674 00:35:53,160 --> 00:36:17,480 Speaker 2: See it the volume