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Speaker 1: Welcome day, Pull me back, all right, welcome back, Welcome back, Friday,

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Speaker 1: August ninth, and I'm here with Aiden Bechamp, who is

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Speaker 1: my stat cast specialist, here with NYY recaps, and we're

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Speaker 1: gonna talk about a few things today.

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Speaker 2: You doing, Aiden, doing good?

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Speaker 3: Doing good?

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Speaker 2: You think we're gonna actually have baseball tonight? It does

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Speaker 2: not look good.

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Speaker 3: It's hard to say. I mean, it's been raining all week.

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Speaker 4: I actually have a concert to go to tonight, and

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Speaker 4: I'm like, are we even going to get the concert in?

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Speaker 2: So let me guess. Taylor Swift, Green Day Smashing Pumpkins,

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Speaker 2: and Green Day Nice. Those are bands that kind of

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Speaker 2: broke out when I was like, I don't know fifteen.

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Speaker 2: You know, that's taken me back in the day. But

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Speaker 2: I want to talk about tonight's starting pitcher, if there

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Speaker 2: is indeed a game tonight, and that's Carlos Rodan. And now,

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Speaker 2: he had an awful year last year, and I think

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Speaker 2: it's fair to say that he took a major step backwards,

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Speaker 2: like not only in terms of his stats, but in

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Speaker 2: terms of his metrics. Last year he just got roughed up.

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Speaker 2: And I just kind of wanted to know, like, is

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Speaker 2: he back. Like, just from your perspective as somebody who

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Speaker 2: studies this type of stuff, do you think Rodan is back?

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Speaker 2: He started off great, he won like seven or eight

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Speaker 2: games in a row. He had about two or three

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Speaker 2: weeks there where every pitch he threw was going in

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Speaker 2: the upper deck. And now he seems like he's he's

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Speaker 2: rounding back into form. Just give me your thoughts on

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Speaker 2: his numbers, his metrics, and what do you think of

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Speaker 2: him so far?

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean it's hard to say that, you know,

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Speaker 4: he's all the way back because he's you know, he's

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Speaker 4: not that twenty twenty one twenty twenty two form Rodan,

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Speaker 4: and that's when he was so dominant. He was finishing,

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Speaker 4: you know, in the top in Cy Young voting, and

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Speaker 4: you know, I'm not sure we're ever really going to

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Speaker 4: get that rodin again. He was just so dominant. But

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Speaker 4: you know, considering what happened last year, considering his age,

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Speaker 4: it's super hard for me to not be happy with

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Speaker 4: where he's at right now. Considering like you said, every

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Speaker 4: pitch he threw last year did end up in the

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Speaker 4: upper deck, it felt like, I mean, he's been really

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Speaker 4: solid all year. I mean, he has had you know,

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Speaker 4: a few blow up starts. He had four starts with

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Speaker 4: five and runs or more and he's only had two

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Speaker 4: starts with zero earned runs. But like I said, he's

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Speaker 4: not gonna be that dominant guy that goes and gives

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Speaker 4: you seven shutout innings like Garrett cole Kent on a

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Speaker 4: regular basis. I mean, he's not gonna be that ace,

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Speaker 4: but he's gonna be reliable. But he's been so serviceable

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Speaker 4: this year because he's finally kind of developed a third

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Speaker 4: pitch that he compare with that fastball and slider. His fastball,

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Speaker 4: and that's why it's even more important that he develops

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Speaker 4: another pitch along with that slider, and that pitch has

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Speaker 4: been his change up. He's needed that change up to

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Speaker 4: be working, and I always kind of thought that's what

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Speaker 4: he could start using more. And he's got an increased

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Speaker 4: usage with it this year. Last year he used it

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Speaker 4: four point three percent of the time and now he's

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Speaker 4: using it twelve point one percent at the time, so

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Speaker 4: that's a pretty big uptick in usage. It has three

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Speaker 4: point six inches of vertical movement above MLB average, and

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Speaker 4: that's also an increase from his change up last year,

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Speaker 4: which only had one point six inches above average.

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Speaker 2: Let me stop you right there. So one of the

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Speaker 2: things that has impressed me about Matt Blake is how

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Speaker 2: good he is at developing change ups with pitchers. You

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Speaker 2: remember a couple years ago when Domingo Harman showed up

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Speaker 2: in spring training, he had an awesome change up. Corey

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Speaker 2: Klueber was throwing his change up more, and then you

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Speaker 2: know Garrett Calls obviously taking huge steps with his change

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Speaker 2: up too. So I think this is a direct correlation

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Speaker 2: with Matt Blake as a pitching coach.

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Speaker 3: Absolutely.

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Speaker 4: And you could even say that Rodin started throwing a

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Speaker 4: can maybe get into because Matt Blake is also not

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Speaker 4: just the changeup specialists, but he really loves his guys

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Speaker 2: As well, his Pettit and Pettit Pettitt is a guy

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Speaker 4: I mean, his his cutter hasn't been super effective this year,

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Speaker 4: next year and maybe it'll get more effective. But that

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Speaker 4: change up really has been like a Matt Blake special.

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Speaker 4: Like I said, it's got three point six inches of

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Speaker 4: vertical movement above average. He has a forty seven point

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Speaker 4: three fifth percentage on it and UH one point six

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Speaker 4: average against it is one point thirty two. So he's

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Speaker 4: he's pitching pretty well. And it's not just his change

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Speaker 4: up too. He does have pretty good stuff. There's a

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Speaker 4: nice stat on Fangraphs created by Enosaurus and pitching stuff Plus.

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Speaker 3: It's a pitch.

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Speaker 4: Model grading system and it takes into account a pitch

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Speaker 4: is v low, it's break, it's rotations per minute, its

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Speaker 4: release point, and extension, and the MLB average is one

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Speaker 4: hundred and Don Slider has one hundred and forty four

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Speaker 4: overall in the air he hats one hundred and twenty

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Speaker 3: He does have good stuff.

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Speaker 4: He of course has those command issues and I'll miss

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Speaker 4: his spots. And it's really his fastball that's been getting

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Speaker 4: teed off on this year. So to see his breaking

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Speaker 4: stuff be so effective is really really good.

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Speaker 2: How does his fastball rate and stuff? Plus do you

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Speaker 2: happen to know off top.

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Speaker 4: Of your hand, that's I don't know, but let me check.

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Speaker 2: I feel like the velocity is there, But it still

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Speaker 2: seems like that's the pitch that gets hammered the most often, right.

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Speaker 2: I mean that could be to me a location problem too,

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Speaker 2: because it doesn't have a lot of movement, and so

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Speaker 2: like when he misses with it down the middle, and

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Speaker 2: he's a guy who throws at the top of the

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Speaker 2: and you miss just a little bit low, Well, all

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Speaker 2: of a sudden, that's a bell high fastball, right, and

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Speaker 2: he a lot of times, like a lot of Yankees

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Speaker 2: They try and go over the plate, but either high

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Speaker 2: but they're over the plate. Everything looks like a strike,

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Speaker 2: and so it's easier to get you know, chase, you

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Speaker 2: know chases and stuff like that. So how's that fastball

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Speaker 4: Yeah, so that's exactly what you said. It's really the

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Speaker 4: location for him. His stuff plus on his fastball is

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Speaker 4: all just location for him. He misses his spots a lot,

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Speaker 4: and more often than not, when he misses, it's kind

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Speaker 2: I can't think of a lot of pictures in my

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Speaker 2: It's kind of like you hit your spots or you don't.

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Speaker 2: So I kind of think this is the Rodin we're

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Speaker 2: like in that winter, and I feel like that caused

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Speaker 2: a significant regression last year. He was able to with

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Speaker 2: if if last year was just a normal year, and

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Speaker 2: I think he's just gonna continue to kind of, you know,

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Speaker 2: seven starts at least, I think you take it. I

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Speaker 2: think he signed up for that.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, absolutely, I mean I was I was saying in

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Speaker 4: the offseason, if you can get like a sub three

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Speaker 4: in this run environment. I mean it's really nice. I mean,

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Speaker 4: like the guy had won a six e ra A

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Speaker 4: last year. You really can't ask for him to just

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Speaker 4: So it's I'm really happy with where he's at.

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Speaker 2: So let's let's talk a little bit about the team speed,

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Speaker 2: because this is something that I've been very interested in

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Speaker 2: with stat casts. It seems to me like the Yankees

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Speaker 2: have some really fast guys, but they've also got some

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Speaker 2: dog ass slow guys like John Carlos. Stanton's got to

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Speaker 2: be one of the slowest guys in baseball the labor Torres.

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Speaker 2: Earlier in the year, he was rating as like an

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Speaker 2: the bases, he's just so slow. You know, John Birdie

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Speaker 2: obviously hasn't been around much. Anthony Volpi, you know, he's

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Speaker 2: got a ton of speed. He doesn't steal a ton

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Speaker 2: I just kind of wanted to get your thoughts, Uh,

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Speaker 2: what do the metrics say about the fastest and slowest

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Speaker 3: I mean you're pretty spot on.

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Speaker 4: John Birdie is the fastest guy on the team, and

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Speaker 4: Anthony Rizzo is the slowest, and then Stan is right

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Speaker 2: But Rizzo is slower than Stanton.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, but it's really not that much difference.

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Speaker 4: It's like a so, so how they measure speed ones

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Speaker 4: have legs, the way they measure speed on stack cast

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Speaker 4: his feet per second. So John Bardy runs twenty nine

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Speaker 4: like somewhere in the eightieth percentile. And then Jazz Chisholm

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Speaker 4: down to Rizzo, Stan and Travigno, Rizzo runs twenty four

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Speaker 4: at twenty four point seven feet per second. So they

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Speaker 4: got some they got some pretty fast guys, but then

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Speaker 4: they got some of the slowest of slow guys with

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Speaker 4: Rizzo and Stan.

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Speaker 2: Oh my goodness. Yeah, I'm absolutely astonished that Rizzo is

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Speaker 2: even marginally faster than Stanton. I mean, it must be

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Speaker 2: Stanton's like his stride with or whatever, just because he's taller,

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Speaker 2: longer legs, because he just moves objectively slower. He's he

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Speaker 2: looks like Frankenstein when he's running, right, I mean.

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Speaker 4: I mean, I also think he doesn't really kick it

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Speaker 4: But then when you watch him like going from second

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Speaker 2: The question was, with Anthony Rizzo coming back, do you

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Speaker 2: I've been worried about. I want to see Rice Keith

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I've been honestly wondering the same thing, and it's

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Speaker 4: I would think that they're gonna try and give Rice

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Speaker 3: So I would think the Yankees.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, don't be surprised if you hear about a quote

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Speaker 2: another voicemail here. It's about boom.

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Speaker 6: Hey there, Milton in Texas. I had his question before

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Speaker 6: the last two disastrous games that Yankees play twenty twenty

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Speaker 6: five is going to be an option year for Boom

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Speaker 6: in your professional opinion, that's your emotional opinion or the

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Speaker 6: If the Yankees make you to the World Series, let

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Speaker 6: An a new contract?

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Speaker 7: Or is this it for Boom? Playoff or no playoff?

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Speaker 2: I think the only way they don't bring him back

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Speaker 2: I don't even think it's going to take a World

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Speaker 4: I think it would take a massive collapse for them

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Speaker 4: it's about the players performing and what players Brian Cashman

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Speaker 4: they love Aaron Boone. They would go to war for

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Speaker 4: I mean, we get on him a lot for giving

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Speaker 4: I think that's why the Yankees love him so much.

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Speaker 7: Derek Sports Rabbi josh Alixman calling from the Holy Land.

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Speaker 7: We knew that the starting pitching was going to be

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Speaker 7: needed to shore up another arm out of the bullpen,

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm surprised they didn't bring in a more high

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Speaker 3: And while yes he's.

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Speaker 4: it would have been a good idea too, to be honest.

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Speaker 4: And then outside of Flarity, what else was on the market.

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Speaker 4: I don't think there's really anything the Yankees could have

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Speaker 4: done to improve the rotation outside of Jack Flaherty.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, there's a few things that I think they're doing

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Speaker 2: with the bullpen, and and like you said, they're kind

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Speaker 2: of slow walking the return of Anthony Rizzo. I think

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Speaker 2: they might be kind of slow walking Nick Birdie, but

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Speaker 2: for a different reason. I think they want him healthy

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Speaker 2: in the playoffs, right, and they've seen that he doesn't

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Speaker 2: last very long, not only this season with the Yankees,

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Speaker 2: but in his career. He's had a ton of injury issues.

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Speaker 2: But when he's pitching, he's lights out. So if you

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Speaker 2: can get his window to return, like right at the

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Speaker 2: end of September, give him like two appearances to where

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Speaker 2: he's like feeling healthy and throwing the ball well and confident,

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Speaker 2: and then just unleash him in the playoffs. I think

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Speaker 2: he could be a major factor. And guys haven't seen

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Speaker 2: much of him or seen him in a while, so

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Speaker 2: that could make him more effective. Scene goes for Ian Hamilton.

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Speaker 2: I would not be shocked if they kind of slow

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Speaker 2: walk him a little bit, because we know how how

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Speaker 2: good he can be when he's healthy. The slambio is

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Speaker 2: fantastic and he could come up big in the playoffs.

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Speaker 2: But you don't want these guys pitching for three weeks

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Speaker 2: in September and then pulling up lame on September twenty

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Speaker 2: sixth or whatever. Right, you want them ready to go.

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Speaker 2: So thoughts on.

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Speaker 4: That, Yeah, No, I think your spot on there. I

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Speaker 4: think that's exactly what the Yankees are doing.

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Speaker 7: Well.

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Speaker 4: Now, Hamilton and Birdie did have some injuries that take

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Speaker 4: some time to come back and heal from and rehab through.

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Speaker 4: I think the Yankees. The Yankees are always thinking about

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Speaker 4: the playoffs. They they know they're going to be in

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Speaker 4: a position to making a playoff the playoffs, and when

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Speaker 4: they know they're going to make the playoffs, they start

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Speaker 4: operating to prioritize the playoffs. We saw it with Luis

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Speaker 4: Severino the other year. He was pretty much like he

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Speaker 4: felt like he was ready to come back. I think

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Speaker 4: it was like at the end of August or in

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Speaker 4: the middle of September in twenty twenty two, but the

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Speaker 4: Yankees extended his throwing program so that he would be

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Speaker 4: more in line to pitch in the playoffs. I think

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Speaker 4: that's exactly what they're doing with Bertie and Hamilton.

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Speaker 2: All Right, ladies and gentlemen, thanks for watching. I'll be

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Speaker 2: back after the game tonight, assuming there is a game tonight.

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