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Speaker 1: Dobbins broke the ran a touchdown in late I'm not

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Speaker 1: You're really up against the gun right now with the

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Speaker 5: Yes, the field goals is killing.

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Speaker 4: Us man, And I'm looking at the TV understanding now,

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Speaker 4: But at that point, you know it's not it's what's

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Speaker 2: Yeah, that's the thing with the office we have.

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Speaker 4: There's no goddamn reason man to be able to spot

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Speaker 5: Shouldn't be able to.

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Speaker 4: If you spot a team twenty one points, ain't no

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Speaker 4: even if a momentum you said always it's about how

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Speaker 4: God damn Sam, But we do have an offense where

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Speaker 5: And make it happen. But we've got to start fast.

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Speaker 5: It's killing me.

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Speaker 4: Man. The difference is up and down. It's so inconsistent offensive.

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Speaker 4: We start so goddamn slow. We do get in the

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Speaker 5: And it's killing us.

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Speaker 1: That's that's that's really the issue. And people keep saying

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Speaker 1: And so they kept doing that. Bengals know, Hey, this Hardbaugh,

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Speaker 2: Now this is a different coaching staff, but he's the

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Speaker 4: You don't want to make these mistakes, especially as young

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Speaker 1: Well, you're the reason why they're probably coming back because

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Speaker 2: They basically got to go six and zero.

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Speaker 2: You know, you just can't play with offense, right, get

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Speaker 2: We don't have a choice, a choice.

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Speaker 1: Oh Joe, you just gave up thirty four, you gave

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Speaker 4: I know what you're gonna say. There's nothing I can do.

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Speaker 4: Gotta damn there play perfect, man, whoa whoa before.

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Speaker 2: They damn they gotta play perfect.

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Speaker 4: Come on, man, don't do that. Come on, man, I

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Speaker 2: Won the Broncos hanging thirty eight on them.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

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Speaker 1: Oh both why I mean what I tried to tell you,

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Speaker 1: There's no Browns. Y'all got to Browns twice. Y'all got

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Speaker 5: Yeah, man, they.

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Speaker 1: Only Big brown once, so they got the Browns once

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Speaker 4: If we want to win these next what six games?

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Speaker 2: You gotta go six? I believe, do you know what? O? Joe?

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Speaker 4: Hold talk to me, hold on before you say anything,

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Speaker 5: Talk to me nice now.

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Speaker 2: Okay, talk to me nice. You got hold on? Are

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Speaker 1: They got the Steelers on the on the first of December,

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Speaker 1: So that's in two weeks right?

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Speaker 2: Yeah? So yes, sir, So then your guys go on

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Speaker 1: So you got the Steelers at home, you're at the Cowboys,

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Speaker 4: I think I think that's what it's gonna come down

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Speaker 5: But the offense that we saw in the second half

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Speaker 5: The goddamn kitchen sink the motherfuckers. I don't know.

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Speaker 1: If y'all gonna beat the Steelers in the first game

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Speaker 5: Yeah, you ain't got to say it like that.

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Speaker 2: I just.

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Speaker 5: I asked lightly to talk nice to me.

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Speaker 2: But you get what's going on with your WiFi?

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Speaker 5: Is it working?

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Speaker 1: Keep fading in and out? Do you get the because

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Speaker 2: Run of the meal.

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Speaker 5: Can you see me?

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Speaker 2: Yeah, we see you.

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Speaker 1: But it's your audio that keeps fading in and out.

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Speaker 4: Oh man, damn see. I don't like when that be

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Speaker 2: Well?

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Speaker 1: You probably should have got that from the beginning, but

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Speaker 1: from NFC GM the a mino regret that teams have

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Speaker 1: It's very real, yo. Will Jim Harbord be the best

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Speaker 4: Quinn Johnson, young brother, I salute you, yung bro. I

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Speaker 1: The Bills hand the Chiefs the first loss of the season.

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Speaker 2: He's gonna run it.

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Speaker 1: That's what he's done every time against the Kansas City

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Speaker 1: Home's not playing well. And when you say that, people

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Speaker 2: No, he's done that I'm talking about right now.

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Speaker 1: Nobody can end there that even if you were the

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Speaker 1: playing well, he's not. That doesn't mean And because he's

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Speaker 2: Yes, but let's deal with what we need to deal with.

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Speaker 1: Look how many interceptions he had as opposed to touchdowns.

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Speaker 1: Like every game you pistoled in, Mahome's gonna turn the

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Speaker 1: on your defense. This is where Mahomes needed to have

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Speaker 1: that game to go get thirty one, to go get

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Speaker 1: thirty four. So that's the question that you're gonna have

442
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Speaker 1: to ask yourself. Cheeses fans follow the NFL. If somebody

443
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Speaker 1: can have a day in which they get up on

444
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Speaker 1: the Chiefs and have better than normal day against that defense, right,

445
00:21:04,640 --> 00:21:11,360
Speaker 1: and Patrick Mahomes and this offense outdueling opposing team's offense.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, and it used to.

447
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Speaker 2: Be a no doubt.

448
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Speaker 1: It used to be unless you score twenty eight or

449
00:21:16,480 --> 00:21:18,000
Speaker 1: thirty points, you couldn't beat the.

450
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Speaker 4: Chiefs right well, honestly if you think about it. And

451
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Speaker 4: when we comes to the regular season now the Bills

452
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Speaker 4: are four and one against the Chiefs. Yeah, but counts

453
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Speaker 4: when we talk about that dueling situation where it matters

454
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Speaker 4: most and rest Mahome coming in and playing his best

455
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Speaker 4: football and opportune times has been in the postseason where

456
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Speaker 4: they are three and zero against the Bills. So again,

457
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Speaker 4: in the regular season, for some reason, the Bills have

458
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Speaker 4: always had success when it comes to playing the Chiefs,

459
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Speaker 4: but when it mattered most, when it mattered most in

460
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Speaker 4: the postseason, Patrick Mahomes has always come on top in

461
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Speaker 4: those dual games like that. But again, not to take

462
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Speaker 4: anything away from the Bills and what they did today. Hell,

463
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Speaker 4: I even had the Bills winning.

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Speaker 2: I said, yeah, everybody, I think everybody it should have.

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Speaker 1: I think the thing is O shoe is that people like,

466
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Speaker 1: well Mahomes, Mahomes, but we've never seen home play stretches

467
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Speaker 1: like this. That's the difference. Yeah, we know what he is,

468
00:22:12,000 --> 00:22:15,320
Speaker 1: we know what he's done, right, but we haven't seen

469
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Speaker 1: him play like this. We haven't had he had Worthy

470
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Speaker 1: wide open and he throws and leaves him out of bounds.

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Speaker 1: He leaves him up to feel us a touchdown. It's

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Speaker 1: plays like that that he used to never miss, and

473
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Speaker 1: now more it's more routine to see him miss those

474
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Speaker 1: throws than make those throws, which is very uncommon. It's

475
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Speaker 1: something that we're not used to seeing. The Bills mounted

476
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Speaker 1: five scoring drives of at least eight plays and sixty yards.

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Speaker 1: Four of those plays ended on a touchdown and one

478
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Speaker 1: end of the field goal. So five of the six

479
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Speaker 1: drives of at least eight plays and sixty yards ended

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Speaker 1: in scores, four tds, one field goal. Josh Allen was

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Speaker 1: twenty seven and forty two sixty two, one touchdown, one

482
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Speaker 1: I n T. They ran the ball thirty one times

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Speaker 1: fo one hundred and four yards. James Cook had two

484
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Speaker 1: touchdowns and it was Josh Allen that sealed it. Laid

485
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Speaker 1: on the fourth down twenty six yard run Patrick mahall

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Speaker 1: I mean, look at it, twenty three of thirty three

487
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Speaker 1: for one. If Patrick Mahlmes have a three on the

488
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Speaker 1: yard game this year, he might.

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Speaker 4: Have one, yeah, maybe maybe one, but again, you know what,

490
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Speaker 4: you know what else, you know what else that comes

491
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Speaker 4: into that. It makes it that much more difficult coming

492
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Speaker 4: off of Super Bowl champion. I mean, coming off of

493
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Speaker 4: Super Bowl win, everybody's targeting you ever you want to study.

494
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Speaker 4: Everyone has studied you, all your tendencies, everything you like

495
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Speaker 4: to do. They studied your offense, they studied your quarterback.

496
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Speaker 4: So it makes it that much more difficult for Patrick

497
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Speaker 4: Holmes and that offense as the people of game plan

498
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Speaker 4: and prepared to play. So I think things are a

499
00:24:02,119 --> 00:24:04,520
Speaker 4: little bit more difficult for them, and that that's on

500
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Speaker 4: Andy Reid to continue to do what he does and

501
00:24:06,720 --> 00:24:10,159
Speaker 4: being as creative as possible to throw the team that

502
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Speaker 4: you're playing off.

503
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Speaker 5: Because they're a little bit better prepared.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, but give Buffalo credit.

505
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Speaker 2: Buffalo.

506
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Speaker 1: Buffalo is playing extremely well. Josh is playing He's running. Hey,

507
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Speaker 1: you look at six foot five, six six two fifty

508
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Speaker 1: two fifty five and he can run. And he's a

509
00:24:30,480 --> 00:24:33,520
Speaker 1: low and once he once he opens up, man who's

510
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Speaker 1: trying to tackle him, DBS ain't trying to tackle that man.

511
00:24:37,880 --> 00:24:41,640
Speaker 2: So bad. Please, But he's playing well.

512
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Speaker 1: He throw the ball, but I mean he's had what

513
00:24:43,400 --> 00:24:46,359
Speaker 1: consecutive game, three consecutive games, I'm not mistaken turning the

514
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Speaker 1: ball over. But he didn't turn it over when they

515
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Speaker 1: was in the red zone, because a lot of times

516
00:24:50,520 --> 00:24:51,359
Speaker 1: they were getting in trouble.

517
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Speaker 2: He was throwing picks in the end zone. He was

518
00:24:52,840 --> 00:24:54,400
Speaker 2: thumbing the ball in the red zone, and.

519
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Speaker 1: He was taking potential points off the board, even though

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Speaker 1: any drive could have ended in a point. You know,

521
00:25:00,760 --> 00:25:02,240
Speaker 1: but when you throw the ball in the end zone

522
00:25:02,240 --> 00:25:04,359
Speaker 1: and it gets turned over, you know you're already in

523
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Speaker 1: field goal range. But dang uh if I told you

524
00:25:12,119 --> 00:25:16,280
Speaker 1: the quarterback has thrown in eleven games. The ten games

525
00:25:16,280 --> 00:25:18,920
Speaker 1: have thrown for twenty four hundred yards. He had fifteen

526
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Speaker 1: touchdowns and eleven interceptions. What would you say, O Joe.

527
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Speaker 4: They're probably losing. Thank you're probably losing if you don't

528
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Speaker 4: put that, if you don't put the name, If you

529
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Speaker 4: don't put the name, and you just say the stats

530
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Speaker 4: in general, yep, losing team and whoever it is is

531
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Speaker 4: playing very bad.

532
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Speaker 2: Yep, very bad.

533
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Speaker 4: And so the fact that it looks like that on

534
00:25:42,280 --> 00:25:45,159
Speaker 4: and they're only and they're still nine and one, that

535
00:25:45,240 --> 00:25:46,800
Speaker 4: says a lot about the player in general.

536
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Speaker 5: Also as well.

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Speaker 1: He's only had two games this season in which he

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00:25:51,720 --> 00:25:53,200
Speaker 1: has not thrown an interception.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, okay, two games? How many three hundred yard games

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Speaker 4: as he had.

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Speaker 2: He had only one against the Saints. Yeah, okay, Dang

542
00:26:04,840 --> 00:26:05,439
Speaker 2: came close.

543
00:26:05,480 --> 00:26:08,439
Speaker 1: Against the Ravens he had two ninety one, and then

544
00:26:08,480 --> 00:26:11,400
Speaker 1: against the Bengals he had one fifty one two seventeen

545
00:26:11,440 --> 00:26:13,639
Speaker 1: Against the foul Becaus two forty five, three thirty one

546
00:26:13,680 --> 00:26:16,119
Speaker 1: against the Saints, he had one fifty four against the

547
00:26:16,160 --> 00:26:19,280
Speaker 1: forty nine ers two sixty two to two ninety one,

548
00:26:19,359 --> 00:26:22,119
Speaker 1: two sixty six, one ninety six. It's completion percentage just

549
00:26:22,200 --> 00:26:24,919
Speaker 1: off the chain. But that we understand why because they

550
00:26:25,000 --> 00:26:26,560
Speaker 1: run a lot of smoke screens. They run a lot

551
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Speaker 1: of screenplays, a lot of a lot of shallows, a

552
00:26:29,520 --> 00:26:32,320
Speaker 1: lot of spots. So it's not like before where he

553
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Speaker 1: was pushing the ball down the field like you do.

554
00:26:34,280 --> 00:26:39,800
Speaker 1: We understand the offense changed substantially once they lost Tyreek.

555
00:26:40,160 --> 00:26:43,000
Speaker 1: They found a new way to get the ball down

556
00:26:43,040 --> 00:26:46,840
Speaker 1: the field. They're not as explosive as they once were. Right,

557
00:26:47,600 --> 00:26:50,760
Speaker 1: as long as you win, you win. But you make

558
00:26:50,800 --> 00:26:53,640
Speaker 1: it very very difficult when you turn the ball over,

559
00:26:53,880 --> 00:26:56,040
Speaker 1: and even as great as your defense is, you keep

560
00:26:56,040 --> 00:26:59,400
Speaker 1: turning it over big Eventually they're gonna crack. Yeah, most

561
00:26:59,440 --> 00:27:03,600
Speaker 1: definitely crack. But give Buffalo credit. Let's not ay take

562
00:27:03,640 --> 00:27:06,600
Speaker 1: anything away from them. They played really really well today.

563
00:27:06,960 --> 00:27:09,359
Speaker 1: They got some big time played, have a couple of

564
00:27:09,359 --> 00:27:15,399
Speaker 1: big catches, Samuel played really well, had came up some

565
00:27:15,920 --> 00:27:20,160
Speaker 1: key third downs. But the Bills win and move within

566
00:27:20,200 --> 00:27:23,440
Speaker 1: a half game of Kansas City for the number one

567
00:27:23,480 --> 00:27:26,800
Speaker 1: seed in the AFC. The Bills fans hang a Kermit

568
00:27:26,840 --> 00:27:29,080
Speaker 1: the frog puppet, and if I'm not mistaken, on Joe,

569
00:27:29,080 --> 00:27:32,040
Speaker 1: they had a fifteen on his jersey, O Joe, what

570
00:27:32,080 --> 00:27:32,760
Speaker 1: do you think about this?

571
00:27:33,520 --> 00:27:36,800
Speaker 4: I mean, listen, it's an ongoing thing with them making

572
00:27:36,840 --> 00:27:40,960
Speaker 4: fun of fun of mahomes voice home because of his voice,

573
00:27:40,960 --> 00:27:43,359
Speaker 4: because of how he talks, and comparing him to Kermit.

574
00:27:43,400 --> 00:27:46,120
Speaker 4: I think it's been ongoing anything. I think Mahomes has

575
00:27:46,160 --> 00:27:49,960
Speaker 4: addressed it. I don't think it doesn't really bother him.

576
00:27:49,960 --> 00:27:51,480
Speaker 4: But I understand the whole thing.

577
00:27:51,840 --> 00:27:52,320
Speaker 2: They won.

578
00:27:52,640 --> 00:27:54,879
Speaker 4: But again, they might those Bills fans might want to

579
00:27:54,920 --> 00:27:58,159
Speaker 4: be cautious. It's just the regular season because when it matters,

580
00:27:58,240 --> 00:28:01,320
Speaker 4: most were got and Pat Mahomes is three and zero

581
00:28:01,320 --> 00:28:06,199
Speaker 4: against you know, the Bills. The Bills and their fans, Uh,

582
00:28:06,240 --> 00:28:08,800
Speaker 4: we're gonna see he gonna remember that he's gonna remember that. So,

583
00:28:09,320 --> 00:28:11,600
Speaker 4: you know, kudos to the Bills, I mean kudos are

584
00:28:11,600 --> 00:28:14,240
Speaker 4: their fans. I had the Bills winning, winning this game.

585
00:28:14,640 --> 00:28:17,840
Speaker 4: And Josh Allen Man young Man, young Bull is the

586
00:28:17,920 --> 00:28:20,800
Speaker 4: real deal man, He's the real deal. Obviously did have

587
00:28:20,880 --> 00:28:23,480
Speaker 4: a turnover and he has been turnover prone in the past,

588
00:28:23,520 --> 00:28:25,800
Speaker 4: and I think that's been his achilles heel. But this

589
00:28:25,920 --> 00:28:28,600
Speaker 4: year he's been He's been protected the ball for the

590
00:28:28,640 --> 00:28:32,399
Speaker 4: most part extremely well the season, and I think I

591
00:28:32,400 --> 00:28:33,640
Speaker 4: think they're gonna they're gonna go far.

592
00:28:33,760 --> 00:28:36,120
Speaker 5: They're gonna go They're gonna go really, really, really far

593
00:28:36,280 --> 00:28:37,120
Speaker 5: this year.

594
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Speaker 1: You like, you like Buffalo better this year than in

595
00:28:41,040 --> 00:28:41,800
Speaker 1: previous years.

596
00:28:42,600 --> 00:28:44,200
Speaker 5: Oh, absolutely, absolutely.

597
00:28:44,200 --> 00:28:46,560
Speaker 4: The fact that not only is Josh Allen playing well,

598
00:28:46,840 --> 00:28:49,840
Speaker 4: he's not a turnover machine as he once was. He's

599
00:28:49,880 --> 00:28:52,800
Speaker 4: not relying on the on his arm strength, the squeeze ball,

600
00:28:52,960 --> 00:28:55,760
Speaker 4: squeeze ball in places where he shouldn't be trying to

601
00:28:55,760 --> 00:28:59,320
Speaker 4: throw it. H Yeah, so he's he's improved on that.

602
00:28:59,480 --> 00:29:01,720
Speaker 4: And and for the fact that he's not a turnable

603
00:29:01,720 --> 00:29:04,800
Speaker 4: machine right now. I had the Bills going much further

604
00:29:05,160 --> 00:29:07,280
Speaker 4: as opposed to they have in previous years.

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Speaker 1: Lamar can't get it done. He couldn't beat can't beat

606
00:29:10,240 --> 00:29:10,920
Speaker 1: the Steelers again.

607
00:29:10,960 --> 00:29:11,320
Speaker 2: Oh Joe.

608
00:29:11,400 --> 00:29:16,480
Speaker 1: The Lamar Jackson Steelers RUSS. The Steelers beat Baltimore eighteen sixteen.

609
00:29:16,560 --> 00:29:18,760
Speaker 1: It's just been difficult for the Ravens to overtake the

610
00:29:18,760 --> 00:29:20,520
Speaker 1: Steelers when Lamar continues to.

611
00:29:20,480 --> 00:29:21,560
Speaker 2: Struggle against them.

612
00:29:21,760 --> 00:29:23,880
Speaker 1: Now, you know the fans gonna come out there and say, well,

613
00:29:23,920 --> 00:29:25,680
Speaker 1: he ain't got no receivers and he ain't got this.

614
00:29:25,760 --> 00:29:28,320
Speaker 2: They're gonna blame Todd Munkin for the call because it ain't.

615
00:29:28,600 --> 00:29:32,040
Speaker 1: Lamar played bad, and he's played bad more routinely than

616
00:29:32,040 --> 00:29:33,360
Speaker 1: not when he's faced the Steelers.

617
00:29:33,880 --> 00:29:37,360
Speaker 4: The great question, Yes, so about to about the Ravens

618
00:29:37,360 --> 00:29:39,720
Speaker 4: Steelers game? Yes, answer for me.

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Speaker 2: Yes.

620
00:29:40,760 --> 00:29:43,040
Speaker 5: How many times did Derrick Henry Kirk carry the ball today?

621
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Speaker 1: Uh?

622
00:29:44,200 --> 00:29:44,560
Speaker 2: They ran?

623
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Speaker 1: Derreck Henry had thirteen carries, they had the ball. They

624
00:29:46,920 --> 00:29:48,880
Speaker 1: ran the ball nineteen times for one to twenty four.

625
00:29:49,200 --> 00:29:51,200
Speaker 1: Lamar Jackson threw the ball thirty three times for two

626
00:29:51,280 --> 00:29:54,080
Speaker 1: hundred and seven yards. Now we go back and look Cleveland,

627
00:29:54,880 --> 00:29:58,840
Speaker 1: what was the ratio? But y'all don't want to bet, y'all,

628
00:29:59,160 --> 00:30:00,800
Speaker 1: but see when we try to, I tell you your

629
00:30:01,360 --> 00:30:05,200
Speaker 1: recipe to make a great dish that everybody in Baltimore

630
00:30:05,200 --> 00:30:08,080
Speaker 1: and Malland and the surrounding county is gonna love we hate,

631
00:30:08,440 --> 00:30:10,080
Speaker 1: but y'all keep doing it this way. But anyway, let

632
00:30:10,080 --> 00:30:12,240
Speaker 1: me finish this on Joe, the reigning MVP, is now

633
00:30:12,240 --> 00:30:14,520
Speaker 1: one to four against the Steelers after completing just forty

634
00:30:14,840 --> 00:30:17,560
Speaker 1: eight percent of his passes sixteen to thirty three, which

635
00:30:17,600 --> 00:30:21,120
Speaker 1: does not include a desperation toss on a failed two

636
00:30:21,160 --> 00:30:21,840
Speaker 1: point conversion.

637
00:30:22,360 --> 00:30:24,360
Speaker 2: Justin Tucker missed two field goals.

638
00:30:24,440 --> 00:30:26,640
Speaker 1: He missed field goals from forty seven and fifty yards

639
00:30:26,640 --> 00:30:29,000
Speaker 1: in the first quarter, which marked the first time since

640
00:30:29,000 --> 00:30:31,640
Speaker 1: twenty twenty two that he's failed to convert on back

641
00:30:31,680 --> 00:30:35,360
Speaker 1: to back attempts. Tucker has now missed six field goals

642
00:30:35,360 --> 00:30:39,160
Speaker 1: this season. Last season, he only missed five. Tucker said

643
00:30:39,200 --> 00:30:42,880
Speaker 1: the playing surface was an ideal Tucker, how many years

644
00:30:42,880 --> 00:30:47,200
Speaker 1: have you kicked in fifthsburn every time? Name of time,

645
00:30:47,480 --> 00:30:51,720
Speaker 1: this time of year. That the Steelers playing surface is ideal.

646
00:30:53,120 --> 00:30:57,520
Speaker 1: What we've seen from Tuck is that he's no longer automatic. O. Joe, Yeah,

647
00:30:57,720 --> 00:31:00,280
Speaker 1: kicks from fifty five.

648
00:31:00,200 --> 00:31:02,400
Speaker 2: In the money.

649
00:31:02,560 --> 00:31:05,440
Speaker 1: He could kick on the moon, he could kick in Pittsburgh,

650
00:31:05,560 --> 00:31:06,680
Speaker 1: he could kick in Denver.

651
00:31:06,960 --> 00:31:08,000
Speaker 2: It did not matter.

652
00:31:08,960 --> 00:31:13,160
Speaker 1: But now there're no, that's no longer the case because

653
00:31:13,440 --> 00:31:16,200
Speaker 1: now what was if the game was closed and you

654
00:31:16,280 --> 00:31:18,560
Speaker 1: put it on the foot of Tuck, Tuck was gonna

655
00:31:18,560 --> 00:31:18,920
Speaker 1: handle it?

656
00:31:20,280 --> 00:31:23,600
Speaker 2: What? What did? What did they do? First game with? Uh?

657
00:31:24,440 --> 00:31:26,880
Speaker 1: They played? Who did the Ravens play the forty nine

658
00:31:26,960 --> 00:31:30,880
Speaker 1: ers over the night? No, the Ravens played the Kansas

659
00:31:30,920 --> 00:31:33,200
Speaker 1: City Give me all the start. Let's let's see with

660
00:31:33,240 --> 00:31:35,680
Speaker 1: the run ratio the pass ratio because they've lost. How

661
00:31:35,720 --> 00:31:37,640
Speaker 1: many games have the Ravens lost?

662
00:31:38,000 --> 00:31:41,640
Speaker 2: Four? Now, right, they lost four? Let's let's see the

663
00:31:41,720 --> 00:31:43,080
Speaker 2: ratio run past.

664
00:31:43,680 --> 00:31:45,800
Speaker 1: We know they've lost when they passed the ball more

665
00:31:46,080 --> 00:31:47,920
Speaker 1: against Cleveland and the Pittsburgh.

666
00:31:48,160 --> 00:31:50,560
Speaker 4: Let's see the other two losses. If the run ratio

667
00:31:50,840 --> 00:31:53,280
Speaker 4: what it was? Right?

668
00:31:53,280 --> 00:31:54,600
Speaker 5: Probably the same, but.

669
00:31:54,560 --> 00:31:56,440
Speaker 1: We're going to find out because I want to speculate.

670
00:31:56,520 --> 00:31:58,280
Speaker 1: Let's let's get this right, because you know, O, Joe,

671
00:31:58,440 --> 00:32:00,680
Speaker 1: they want us to be perfect, so let's make sure

672
00:32:00,720 --> 00:32:03,480
Speaker 1: we're perfect. Somebody gonna say, oh, get on, Joe, they

673
00:32:03,520 --> 00:32:05,120
Speaker 1: did blah blah blah. So we're gonna make sure we

674
00:32:05,160 --> 00:32:06,760
Speaker 1: got it right. Let's see what Let's see what the

675
00:32:06,800 --> 00:32:07,440
Speaker 1: ratio is?

676
00:32:07,520 --> 00:32:10,040
Speaker 4: Hey, you do know if Tuck, if Tuck makes one

677
00:32:10,040 --> 00:32:13,240
Speaker 4: of those field goals, the Ravens win the game.

678
00:32:13,320 --> 00:32:13,400
Speaker 2: Right.

679
00:32:13,920 --> 00:32:15,680
Speaker 1: Well, if that's to say, if Steelers cash one of

680
00:32:15,680 --> 00:32:17,760
Speaker 1: those red zone possessions, you know they win the game.

681
00:32:17,880 --> 00:32:21,960
Speaker 1: Right Since we're doing hypotheticals, one team kick six field

682
00:32:21,960 --> 00:32:22,840
Speaker 1: goals from the.

683
00:32:22,800 --> 00:32:27,320
Speaker 4: Red zone, six field goals on Steelers in the game

684
00:32:27,520 --> 00:32:33,080
Speaker 4: without scoring a touchdown. Yes, in real life. This ain't

685
00:32:33,120 --> 00:32:39,000
Speaker 4: no video game. And they got damn defense. Boy, they

686
00:32:39,000 --> 00:32:39,880
Speaker 4: know they were playing some.

687
00:32:39,800 --> 00:32:40,160
Speaker 2: Ball like that.

688
00:32:40,280 --> 00:32:42,880
Speaker 1: Thirty two of us running plays and they had seventy two,

689
00:32:44,080 --> 00:32:46,560
Speaker 1: so that seventy four, so that means the other forty

690
00:32:46,720 --> 00:32:50,800
Speaker 1: was throwing. Okay, So they threw it more against Kansas

691
00:32:50,840 --> 00:32:54,120
Speaker 1: City and they ran it. They lost. They threw it

692
00:32:54,160 --> 00:32:56,760
Speaker 1: more against the Steelers, then they ran it and they lost.

693
00:32:56,920 --> 00:33:02,680
Speaker 1: They threw it more against the Cleveland and they lost.

694
00:33:02,720 --> 00:33:04,240
Speaker 1: What did they do against the Raiders? They lost against

695
00:33:04,240 --> 00:33:12,720
Speaker 1: the Raiders. Also, I just, I just, I mean, I

696
00:33:12,800 --> 00:33:15,760
Speaker 1: just don't understand how you think thirteen carries is enough

697
00:33:15,800 --> 00:33:20,959
Speaker 1: for Derrick Henry. It's not that complicated. Now, Look, I

698
00:33:21,040 --> 00:33:23,360
Speaker 1: understand earning the game. It changed the momentium of the

699
00:33:23,400 --> 00:33:25,840
Speaker 1: game with Henry bumble. It looked like they were going

700
00:33:25,880 --> 00:33:28,680
Speaker 1: in to get points then and it kind of changed

701
00:33:28,720 --> 00:33:29,360
Speaker 1: things around.

702
00:33:29,800 --> 00:33:31,479
Speaker 2: But give it back to him.

703
00:33:42,640 --> 00:33:45,840
Speaker 1: Every game in which they lost, they've thrown the ball

704
00:33:46,120 --> 00:33:49,160
Speaker 1: more than they've won. When they excuse me, then they've

705
00:33:49,240 --> 00:33:51,680
Speaker 1: run it. When they run it more than they throw it.

706
00:33:52,800 --> 00:33:53,880
Speaker 1: Guess what happens on Joe.

707
00:33:54,680 --> 00:33:55,120
Speaker 5: They win?

708
00:33:55,840 --> 00:33:58,760
Speaker 2: Mm hmm, they win. They win every time.

709
00:33:58,880 --> 00:34:00,840
Speaker 4: Listen, we've talked, we've talked about the recipe for the

710
00:34:00,920 --> 00:34:04,800
Speaker 4: Ravens for a very long time, you know, understanding what

711
00:34:04,800 --> 00:34:06,320
Speaker 4: what it takes for them to win games.

712
00:34:06,360 --> 00:34:08,520
Speaker 5: Obviously, when that when they do give the when they

713
00:34:08,560 --> 00:34:09,720
Speaker 5: give Derrick Henry the ball.

714
00:34:09,719 --> 00:34:12,240
Speaker 4: I say more than twenty I say more than twenty

715
00:34:12,239 --> 00:34:14,320
Speaker 4: times a game they always come out and winning in

716
00:34:15,480 --> 00:34:16,480
Speaker 4: and everyone.

717
00:34:17,760 --> 00:34:19,920
Speaker 2: I just I just don't. I just don't get it.

718
00:34:20,000 --> 00:34:20,960
Speaker 2: I don't.

719
00:34:21,120 --> 00:34:24,879
Speaker 1: I don't owe Yoe, I don't. I don't understand why

720
00:34:24,920 --> 00:34:27,799
Speaker 1: you have Derrick Henry and you leave and you leave

721
00:34:27,840 --> 00:34:30,680
Speaker 1: a game and Derrick Henry only has thirteen carries and

722
00:34:30,760 --> 00:34:34,680
Speaker 1: you feel good about that, m hmm, the same thing.

723
00:34:34,719 --> 00:34:36,839
Speaker 1: I mean he has sixteen carris. He has sixteen carris.

724
00:34:36,880 --> 00:34:40,040
Speaker 1: If if I'm not mistaken, O, Joe, against Cleveland. I can't

725
00:34:40,080 --> 00:34:41,160
Speaker 1: go back off the top of my head.

726
00:34:42,160 --> 00:34:44,800
Speaker 4: It was sixteen, the number one sixteen against against against

727
00:34:44,800 --> 00:34:45,880
Speaker 4: the Browns, it was sixteen.

728
00:34:46,080 --> 00:34:47,480
Speaker 5: But also playing against the Steelers.

729
00:34:47,520 --> 00:34:49,799
Speaker 4: You know what, I think it also does from from

730
00:34:49,840 --> 00:34:51,759
Speaker 4: for Todd Monkin, I think it scared them.

731
00:34:51,640 --> 00:34:54,160
Speaker 5: Away from calling the run plays when the Steelers defense

732
00:34:54,239 --> 00:34:55,120
Speaker 5: is playing. That got damn.

733
00:34:55,640 --> 00:34:57,680
Speaker 1: But I thought you told me you don't let somebody

734
00:34:57,719 --> 00:35:00,920
Speaker 1: dictate your play. Now would you tell me you don't

735
00:35:00,960 --> 00:35:01,720
Speaker 1: let nobody dictate?

736
00:35:03,520 --> 00:35:04,319
Speaker 2: Yeah, you don't. You don't.

737
00:35:04,320 --> 00:35:05,680
Speaker 5: You're not supposed to. You're not supposed to.

738
00:35:05,880 --> 00:35:08,799
Speaker 4: But again, when things I'm working, when things I'm working

739
00:35:08,920 --> 00:35:11,719
Speaker 4: it's not going good, you tend to straight away from

740
00:35:11,719 --> 00:35:13,640
Speaker 4: it when another team is not allowing you to do

741
00:35:13,680 --> 00:35:14,279
Speaker 4: what you want to do.

742
00:35:14,440 --> 00:35:17,240
Speaker 1: Oh cho, we saw this against the Bengals, you remember,

743
00:35:17,280 --> 00:35:19,120
Speaker 1: and over time they give the ball to Dad Henry.

744
00:35:19,160 --> 00:35:22,000
Speaker 2: What do you do? He ran him to a victory. Yeah.

745
00:35:22,480 --> 00:35:25,480
Speaker 1: Look, this ain't college where guys average ten yards the

746
00:35:25,520 --> 00:35:28,440
Speaker 1: cliff every time they touched the ball. Yes, it's a

747
00:35:28,440 --> 00:35:32,239
Speaker 1: lot of two yards, one yards, five yards, but you

748
00:35:32,360 --> 00:35:37,520
Speaker 1: weigh down the defense and plusant play action. You know,

749
00:35:37,840 --> 00:35:39,919
Speaker 1: just ask Lamar just to drop back and throw the ball.

750
00:35:39,960 --> 00:35:41,680
Speaker 1: That's not what he is. Can he throw the ball?

751
00:35:41,680 --> 00:35:45,120
Speaker 1: Has he got exponentially better? Yes, But you need to

752
00:35:45,120 --> 00:35:48,640
Speaker 1: play action off of that because the Steelers are very good.

753
00:35:49,080 --> 00:35:52,319
Speaker 1: They got a nice scheme and think about it, rush

754
00:35:52,320 --> 00:35:54,080
Speaker 1: through an interception in the end zone, no joke.

755
00:35:54,680 --> 00:35:56,480
Speaker 2: Yeah, they would have got more points.

756
00:35:56,800 --> 00:36:00,360
Speaker 4: Yeah that that should have been a touch. You just

757
00:36:00,400 --> 00:36:01,400
Speaker 4: had to bring it down a little bit.

758
00:36:01,760 --> 00:36:04,480
Speaker 2: I say, I say, come on, I just I just

759
00:36:04,520 --> 00:36:05,120
Speaker 2: don't get it.

760
00:36:05,560 --> 00:36:08,960
Speaker 1: Why the Ravens are so hell being trying to prove

761
00:36:09,200 --> 00:36:11,759
Speaker 1: that we could throw our way to a victory. At

762
00:36:11,760 --> 00:36:14,160
Speaker 1: the end of the day. If you holding the Lombardy,

763
00:36:14,480 --> 00:36:16,440
Speaker 1: why do you care how you got it? If you

764
00:36:16,440 --> 00:36:18,319
Speaker 1: had to run back three puns to win the game,

765
00:36:18,920 --> 00:36:20,879
Speaker 1: or had to block two field goals.

766
00:36:20,600 --> 00:36:25,440
Speaker 2: Who cares? But this is not your recipe for winning, right.

767
00:36:27,280 --> 00:36:30,360
Speaker 5: Dang hey. But it was a good game though, I

768
00:36:30,360 --> 00:36:31,000
Speaker 5: can tell you that.

769
00:36:31,440 --> 00:36:32,640
Speaker 1: Yeah, it was a good I mean, look, it's a

770
00:36:32,719 --> 00:36:36,680
Speaker 1: robber game. It's gonna be highly contested. Uh, it's gonna

771
00:36:36,719 --> 00:36:40,319
Speaker 1: be close. Yes, Yes, they turned them all over three times,

772
00:36:40,760 --> 00:36:42,600
Speaker 1: you know. I mean, you go on the road, you

773
00:36:42,640 --> 00:36:45,960
Speaker 1: turn them ball over three times, you probably you probably

774
00:36:46,000 --> 00:36:47,439
Speaker 1: shouldn't have been in the game.

775
00:36:48,920 --> 00:36:50,879
Speaker 2: You probably shouldn't have to be in the game.

776
00:36:51,440 --> 00:36:54,640
Speaker 1: And based on on on what we've seen from the defense,

777
00:36:54,880 --> 00:36:57,839
Speaker 1: they normally uh, they gave up eighteen points and they

778
00:36:57,920 --> 00:37:00,080
Speaker 1: kept them out of the end zone. You know, the

779
00:37:00,160 --> 00:37:01,880
Speaker 1: raven Peak teams have been having their way with the

780
00:37:01,920 --> 00:37:04,560
Speaker 1: Ravens in the second day, O Joe. So give the

781
00:37:04,640 --> 00:37:07,839
Speaker 1: Ravens credit for standing on their head and keeping them

782
00:37:07,880 --> 00:37:11,120
Speaker 1: out of the end zone. But this is this was

783
00:37:11,120 --> 00:37:13,359
Speaker 1: a very winnable game. This was a very militable game

784
00:37:13,400 --> 00:37:17,200
Speaker 1: for the for the Ravens, and they got They've got

785
00:37:17,200 --> 00:37:20,799
Speaker 1: to find ways to win games like this. But I'll

786
00:37:20,800 --> 00:37:24,239
Speaker 1: tell you what happened, Yes, sir, they played like this.

787
00:37:24,800 --> 00:37:27,200
Speaker 1: Jared Golf just sprong board right back into the m

788
00:37:27,280 --> 00:37:29,359
Speaker 1: v PE conversation. I don't know if you saw his

789
00:37:29,400 --> 00:37:33,920
Speaker 1: game today to day, that was disrespectful. Okay, okay, you

790
00:37:33,960 --> 00:37:37,160
Speaker 1: saw so you saw it. He's just strong board his

791
00:37:37,280 --> 00:37:39,840
Speaker 1: way right back into the m VP conversation.

792
00:37:40,560 --> 00:37:42,239
Speaker 4: You know who also is in there. I don't I

793
00:37:42,239 --> 00:37:44,520
Speaker 4: don't want to leave Josh Allen. I don't want to

794
00:37:44,560 --> 00:37:46,919
Speaker 4: leave Josh out of that. But you know what's gonna

795
00:37:46,920 --> 00:37:50,239
Speaker 4: happen with that Lamar Jackson has an off game, he

796
00:37:50,320 --> 00:37:52,600
Speaker 4: has a game where he doesn't play well today, But

797
00:37:52,719 --> 00:37:55,719
Speaker 4: what's gonna happen and gonna come back next week and

798
00:37:55,719 --> 00:37:58,000
Speaker 4: he's gonna put himself right back in the front runner

799
00:37:58,040 --> 00:37:58,200
Speaker 4: for that.

800
00:37:58,200 --> 00:37:59,960
Speaker 2: God damn well, I still believe he's the front runner.

801
00:38:00,160 --> 00:38:02,960
Speaker 1: I'm just saying that that that Jared Goff got his

802
00:38:03,080 --> 00:38:05,440
Speaker 1: way back into it because he, come to think about it,

803
00:38:05,440 --> 00:38:07,879
Speaker 1: O Joe, he threw five picks and they still found

804
00:38:07,880 --> 00:38:08,719
Speaker 1: a way to win the game.

805
00:38:09,000 --> 00:38:10,600
Speaker 2: Because what right last week?

806
00:38:10,800 --> 00:38:13,040
Speaker 1: Because in that final drive when they needed to get

807
00:38:13,080 --> 00:38:14,560
Speaker 1: in position, what did he do?

808
00:38:14,719 --> 00:38:15,640
Speaker 2: He made every throw?

809
00:38:17,080 --> 00:38:21,600
Speaker 1: So now it's much worse you throw five interceptions that

810
00:38:21,680 --> 00:38:24,000
Speaker 1: you lose the game. But he ended up having the

811
00:38:24,040 --> 00:38:27,600
Speaker 1: game when he drives, right, So people are like, Okay, yeah,

812
00:38:27,640 --> 00:38:30,080
Speaker 1: he played bad, but when they needed to have something,

813
00:38:30,120 --> 00:38:32,600
Speaker 1: he went and got it for I still believe Lamar's

814
00:38:32,640 --> 00:38:34,640
Speaker 1: in the front in the front, I mean what, he

815
00:38:34,680 --> 00:38:36,640
Speaker 1: had a touchdown in an interception. So now he has

816
00:38:36,680 --> 00:38:40,919
Speaker 1: twenty five. He's twenty five and three. That's still pretty

817
00:38:41,000 --> 00:38:43,399
Speaker 1: damn good stats. So Joe, and there's seven and four,

818
00:38:44,800 --> 00:38:49,240
Speaker 1: there's seven and four. Now, golf does have great numbers

819
00:38:49,440 --> 00:38:53,800
Speaker 1: and they've only lost one game, so sure.

820
00:38:55,360 --> 00:38:58,920
Speaker 4: I don't mean to do this, but if the Bangs

821
00:38:58,920 --> 00:39:01,239
Speaker 4: were winning, Joe Borrow would also be in the MVP.

822
00:39:01,840 --> 00:39:04,560
Speaker 2: Absolutely have to be right.

823
00:39:04,600 --> 00:39:06,040
Speaker 5: I just want to throw that out there. I just

824
00:39:06,040 --> 00:39:06,960
Speaker 5: want to throw that at there.

825
00:39:07,000 --> 00:39:08,759
Speaker 1: But y'all not, we deal with people that are winning.

826
00:39:08,840 --> 00:39:16,440
Speaker 1: So don't bring that up again. When day when day

827
00:39:16,600 --> 00:39:19,200
Speaker 1: come on chance laying with me? When day when day

828
00:39:19,560 --> 00:39:22,359
Speaker 1: when they're gonna win enough game? When day when day

829
00:39:22,680 --> 00:39:26,040
Speaker 1: when they gonna win enough game? When day when when

830
00:39:26,120 --> 00:39:27,319
Speaker 1: they don't win a game?

831
00:39:27,960 --> 00:39:32,160
Speaker 5: That's not necessary. You ain't got to do that. I'm already.

832
00:39:32,120 --> 00:39:35,359
Speaker 4: I'm already my feelings about my bangles man, and I

833
00:39:35,400 --> 00:39:37,200
Speaker 4: was I was hoping we could pull it off today

834
00:39:37,640 --> 00:39:40,279
Speaker 4: and just it's like, if it ain't, if it ain't

835
00:39:40,280 --> 00:39:42,919
Speaker 4: one thing, that's another. If it ain't if it ain't

836
00:39:42,960 --> 00:39:46,399
Speaker 4: one thing, that's another. Man, God damn, yeah it is.

837
00:39:47,200 --> 00:39:47,600
Speaker 2: I don't know.

838
00:39:47,800 --> 00:39:49,520
Speaker 1: I don't know, guys. I don't know if y'all know this,

839
00:39:49,600 --> 00:39:51,360
Speaker 1: But I used to vote for a decade. I voted

840
00:39:51,400 --> 00:39:55,759
Speaker 1: for all the litwards, All Pro Defense, and Offensive Player

841
00:39:55,800 --> 00:39:57,279
Speaker 1: of the Year. And I'm just telling how the god

842
00:39:57,440 --> 00:39:59,920
Speaker 1: I know there's fifty many women. I'm just telling how they.

843
00:40:00,360 --> 00:40:02,319
Speaker 1: Y'all can say all that hate ish y'all want to,

844
00:40:02,480 --> 00:40:06,080
Speaker 1: but I'm telling you Jerry Goff won a game in

845
00:40:06,120 --> 00:40:09,759
Speaker 1: which you threw five picks because he had the game

846
00:40:09,800 --> 00:40:12,080
Speaker 1: winning drive, and he followed it up today.

847
00:40:12,200 --> 00:40:15,720
Speaker 2: Did y'all see them drop a fifty two piece? Oh Joe?

848
00:40:15,840 --> 00:40:17,520
Speaker 2: Did you realize they went.

849
00:40:17,400 --> 00:40:20,920
Speaker 1: Touchdown, touchdown, touchdown, touchdown, touchdown, touchdown, touchdown.

850
00:40:20,640 --> 00:40:21,839
Speaker 2: Feel go kneel down.

851
00:40:24,239 --> 00:40:29,200
Speaker 1: Let me say that again, touchdown, touchdown, touchdown, touchdown, touchdown, touchdown, touchdown.

852
00:40:28,960 --> 00:40:30,239
Speaker 2: Feel go kneel down.

853
00:40:33,239 --> 00:40:34,839
Speaker 1: And I don't know if y'all know it, y'all think

854
00:40:34,880 --> 00:40:37,600
Speaker 1: it seemed like that man got like five touchdowns and

855
00:40:37,680 --> 00:40:40,960
Speaker 1: seven and seven touchdowns and five picks. Go check your

856
00:40:41,040 --> 00:40:43,720
Speaker 1: stans out and they're winning. They're the number one seed

857
00:40:43,960 --> 00:40:51,080
Speaker 1: in the NFC. Yeah, the same thing, the same thing.

858
00:40:51,440 --> 00:40:55,480
Speaker 1: Lamar didn't have the greatest numbers last year. He was

859
00:40:55,520 --> 00:40:58,440
Speaker 1: twenty four and eight, right with the number one seed.

860
00:41:00,160 --> 00:41:03,040
Speaker 1: Golf is gonna have outstanding numbers, and it looks like

861
00:41:03,080 --> 00:41:04,759
Speaker 1: they're heading for the number one seed.

862
00:41:05,480 --> 00:41:08,560
Speaker 2: Yeah.

863
00:41:08,640 --> 00:41:14,200
Speaker 1: Man, three turnovers, two men's field goals, and it seemed

864
00:41:14,239 --> 00:41:16,959
Speaker 1: like the Ravens played their worst football where they played

865
00:41:16,960 --> 00:41:17,399
Speaker 1: the f.

866
00:41:17,360 --> 00:41:19,440
Speaker 2: And Steelers every time.

867
00:41:21,760 --> 00:41:25,720
Speaker 4: Listen, you know, again, the game is not as physical

868
00:41:25,719 --> 00:41:27,920
Speaker 4: as it once was when we were playing on so

869
00:41:28,040 --> 00:41:30,040
Speaker 4: I can't really say it was a it's a two

870
00:41:30,160 --> 00:41:31,000
Speaker 4: tin strap game.

871
00:41:31,440 --> 00:41:33,279
Speaker 5: You gotta bring you got to bring your two tin

872
00:41:33,360 --> 00:41:34,640
Speaker 5: traps and buckle that motherfucker.

873
00:41:35,040 --> 00:41:38,439
Speaker 4: Because obviously the turnover with Barrick Henry was somebody coming

874
00:41:38,480 --> 00:41:41,600
Speaker 4: from the side. It wasn't, you know, a hit, you know,

875
00:41:41,719 --> 00:41:44,920
Speaker 4: like like, oh my goodness, he hit him so hardy fumbled,

876
00:41:45,239 --> 00:41:48,279
Speaker 4: but it was I'm not gonna say, Look, just he

877
00:41:48,360 --> 00:41:51,319
Speaker 4: had the ball and at the wrong opportune time it

878
00:41:51,360 --> 00:41:51,839
Speaker 4: came out.

879
00:41:52,200 --> 00:41:55,320
Speaker 5: You know, that's it. And obviously two turnovers.

880
00:41:55,800 --> 00:41:59,520
Speaker 4: The other two turnovers you take justin Tucker, it's a

881
00:41:59,560 --> 00:42:02,680
Speaker 4: game and his uncle just makes one of those field goals.

882
00:42:03,080 --> 00:42:05,120
Speaker 4: It makes a difference in the ball game, you know,

883
00:42:05,400 --> 00:42:07,759
Speaker 4: I know it's hypothetical, but it makes a difference in

884
00:42:07,760 --> 00:42:11,000
Speaker 4: the ball game. That's why when he was automatic, if

885
00:42:11,000 --> 00:42:14,200
Speaker 4: he was automatically like he once was in in in

886
00:42:14,320 --> 00:42:16,759
Speaker 4: the past, it makes a difference in the game.

887
00:42:16,840 --> 00:42:18,719
Speaker 5: When the offense is sputter and when the offense isn't

888
00:42:18,719 --> 00:42:19,320
Speaker 5: playing well.

889
00:42:19,239 --> 00:42:21,279
Speaker 1: Yes, but you know this type of game is going

890
00:42:21,360 --> 00:42:25,080
Speaker 1: to be. It's these games are normally low scoring, O joe.

891
00:42:25,320 --> 00:42:27,760
Speaker 1: Even if you score touchdowns, it ain't like these games

892
00:42:27,800 --> 00:42:30,799
Speaker 1: been thirty five, thirty thirty five, thirty four, forty one,

893
00:42:30,880 --> 00:42:33,480
Speaker 1: thirty eight. That's not the type of game. These defensive

894
00:42:33,719 --> 00:42:38,680
Speaker 1: These teams are built on defense. They they're bullies. Although

895
00:42:38,960 --> 00:42:42,040
Speaker 1: Lamar obviously the Ravens have an MVP and an Offensive

896
00:42:42,040 --> 00:42:44,400
Speaker 1: Player of the Year and Derek Henry in the backfield,

897
00:42:44,520 --> 00:42:46,719
Speaker 1: so they're a lot more explosive than they have been

898
00:42:46,760 --> 00:42:50,800
Speaker 1: in the years past. Uh Flowers and Bateman and Aguilar

899
00:42:50,960 --> 00:42:54,640
Speaker 1: and likely and Andrews. They got the Hey, look they

900
00:42:54,719 --> 00:42:59,759
Speaker 1: got an offense. There's no excuses for the Ravens this year. Offensively,

901
00:43:00,600 --> 00:43:03,920
Speaker 1: There's none, O joe. There's none. They got they got healed,

902
00:43:04,000 --> 00:43:07,040
Speaker 1: they got Henry, they got two outstanding tight ends.

903
00:43:07,160 --> 00:43:09,400
Speaker 2: They got good rest, They got good receivers.

904
00:43:09,680 --> 00:43:14,279
Speaker 1: I love Za Flowers, Bateman, Agilary, they Wallace, they they

905
00:43:14,400 --> 00:43:17,000
Speaker 1: they they got some really they got some really talented

906
00:43:17,000 --> 00:43:21,080
Speaker 1: and good players. The thing that concerned me was their defense,

907
00:43:21,160 --> 00:43:23,640
Speaker 1: because I'm still a little shaky on their secondary O Joe.

908
00:43:23,880 --> 00:43:27,760
Speaker 1: I am I am, but I gotta give him credit today.

909
00:43:28,080 --> 00:43:32,040
Speaker 1: They kept George Pickens under control. Uh. He had twelve targets,

910
00:43:32,040 --> 00:43:34,959
Speaker 1: eight catches, Washington had two catchers, and Harris had four.

911
00:43:35,480 --> 00:43:36,080
Speaker 2: Uh.

912
00:43:36,320 --> 00:43:39,279
Speaker 1: They ran kept really under control, running the football thirty

913
00:43:39,320 --> 00:43:40,239
Speaker 1: four carres for.

914
00:43:42,040 --> 00:43:42,320
Speaker 2: Yeah.

915
00:43:43,320 --> 00:43:48,680
Speaker 1: Uh, I mean, and the Steelers had what seventy two plays?

916
00:43:48,680 --> 00:43:51,000
Speaker 1: They ran third seventy two plays to the Ravens fifty

917
00:43:51,000 --> 00:43:55,000
Speaker 1: two fifty five. How many total players did the Ravens have?

918
00:43:55,360 --> 00:43:57,879
Speaker 1: I mean, he says Lamar threw thirty ball thirty three times.

919
00:43:57,880 --> 00:44:00,040
Speaker 1: They had nineteen rush attempts. But you probably have a

920
00:44:00,080 --> 00:44:17,839
Speaker 1: couple of plays throwaways of penalties, Dan. Yeah, so that's

921
00:44:17,880 --> 00:44:21,080
Speaker 1: fifty two. So they have fifty two to seventy, fifty

922
00:44:21,080 --> 00:44:24,520
Speaker 1: two to seventy. It's just seventy. So the Steelers read

923
00:44:24,560 --> 00:44:28,719
Speaker 1: eighteen more plays fifty forty seventy four, so they're still

924
00:44:28,719 --> 00:44:36,400
Speaker 1: read twenty four. Okay. Are the Ravens their biggest detriment?

925
00:44:36,440 --> 00:44:38,520
Speaker 1: This is what Lamar said. Absolutely, It's been that way

926
00:44:38,719 --> 00:44:41,000
Speaker 1: every since last year. I believe, going back to the

927
00:44:41,200 --> 00:44:44,000
Speaker 1: FC Championship game, we killed ourselves, the Chiefs game in

928
00:44:44,000 --> 00:44:46,719
Speaker 1: the over, we killed ourselves, raided game, we killed ourselves today.

929
00:44:46,800 --> 00:44:47,239
Speaker 2: Same thing.

930
00:44:47,560 --> 00:44:50,120
Speaker 1: We can't keep beating ourselves in these type of games.

931
00:44:50,280 --> 00:44:57,200
Speaker 1: Issues annoying, would you think, O Joe? Yeah, I mean

932
00:44:57,200 --> 00:44:59,959
Speaker 1: that ain't no consolation. O't Joe'd be honest with itself.

933
00:45:00,239 --> 00:45:02,920
Speaker 2: Oh so, let me ask you a question.

934
00:45:03,200 --> 00:45:05,239
Speaker 1: Did this did this Did this loss go into the

935
00:45:05,320 --> 00:45:06,840
Speaker 1: did it go into the did it go into the

936
00:45:07,400 --> 00:45:08,120
Speaker 1: who got to win?

937
00:45:08,280 --> 00:45:10,040
Speaker 2: Whether the Steelers or yourself.

938
00:45:10,080 --> 00:45:10,879
Speaker 5: Steers got to win?

939
00:45:11,040 --> 00:45:13,480
Speaker 1: Okay, so you keep saying you beat yourself at the

940
00:45:13,560 --> 00:45:14,880
Speaker 1: end of the day, the same thing. It is the

941
00:45:14,880 --> 00:45:17,560
Speaker 1: same results you lost for guess what happened to come

942
00:45:17,600 --> 00:45:21,000
Speaker 1: playoff time. If you beat yourself, you're going home because

943
00:45:21,000 --> 00:45:24,000
Speaker 1: this is not basketball, This is not baseball. That's what

944
00:45:24,200 --> 00:45:27,360
Speaker 1: we love about football so much, Ojoe. You get one shot,

945
00:45:27,640 --> 00:45:31,480
Speaker 1: that's it. One shot. In some a lot of times,

946
00:45:31,480 --> 00:45:34,480
Speaker 1: the best team doesn't always win. Is the team that

947
00:45:34,560 --> 00:45:36,000
Speaker 1: plays the best that day.

948
00:45:36,520 --> 00:45:36,759
Speaker 2: Faith.

949
00:45:36,840 --> 00:45:41,240
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's why we love football because we're gonna probably

950
00:45:41,280 --> 00:45:43,760
Speaker 1: get that upset. You're probably not gonna get the upset

951
00:45:43,800 --> 00:45:46,440
Speaker 1: that you would normally get in a series, because the

952
00:45:46,440 --> 00:45:49,560
Speaker 1: better team over a seven game series, the better team

953
00:45:49,600 --> 00:45:54,640
Speaker 1: would normally win, right, But in one game and anything

954
00:45:54,719 --> 00:45:59,520
Speaker 1: can happen. Right, They got to find a way to

955
00:45:59,520 --> 00:46:01,520
Speaker 1: fix these They got to find a way to tighten

956
00:46:01,520 --> 00:46:03,200
Speaker 1: this thing up. They got to go into the point.

957
00:46:03,239 --> 00:46:06,240
Speaker 1: Listen there, I don't care what anybody says. Dad, Henry

958
00:46:06,280 --> 00:46:08,360
Speaker 1: needs to get the ball more than thirteen damn times.

959
00:46:08,560 --> 00:46:12,200
Speaker 5: Yeah, Carriot, more than thirteen more than camp Lamar.

960
00:46:12,280 --> 00:46:15,000
Speaker 1: Jackson is going perfect from the end, and we've seen

961
00:46:15,040 --> 00:46:17,759
Speaker 1: him go perfect. We have he had a perfect game.

962
00:46:17,760 --> 00:46:21,080
Speaker 1: Where was he like six seventeen eighteen? But look how

963
00:46:21,120 --> 00:46:24,000
Speaker 1: many carriers they give him? Derreck, You got to give

964
00:46:24,080 --> 00:46:28,719
Speaker 1: him the ball. That's why you brought him in. Yeah,

965
00:46:28,880 --> 00:46:35,919
Speaker 1: he's not a fancy accessory. He's a necessity, not an accessory.

966
00:46:36,520 --> 00:46:38,600
Speaker 2: Y'all need to treat him as such. Right.

967
00:46:46,680 --> 00:46:50,040
Speaker 1: Jets continue there to continue to be terrible. The Coats

968
00:46:50,040 --> 00:46:53,040
Speaker 1: go on the road and they win. Aaron Rodgers worst

969
00:46:53,040 --> 00:46:56,000
Speaker 1: winning percentage than Zach Wilson and Sam Darnold in a

970
00:46:56,080 --> 00:47:00,000
Speaker 1: Jets uniform. Winning percentage that starting quarterbacks for the Jets

971
00:47:00,280 --> 00:47:03,919
Speaker 1: Zach Wilson three sixty four, Sam Donald three forty two,

972
00:47:04,200 --> 00:47:08,000
Speaker 1: Aaron Rodgers two seventy three. The Jets fired Robert Salo

973
00:47:08,320 --> 00:47:12,520
Speaker 1: when the team was two and three one game, one

974
00:47:12,600 --> 00:47:15,520
Speaker 1: game out of first place in the FC's The team

975
00:47:15,520 --> 00:47:19,399
Speaker 1: three losses at the time forty nine Ers five and five,

976
00:47:19,440 --> 00:47:23,560
Speaker 1: Ronco sixty five, Bays eight and two Denver Minnesota were

977
00:47:23,560 --> 00:47:26,160
Speaker 1: one score losses, with the Jets offense failing to score

978
00:47:26,760 --> 00:47:29,920
Speaker 1: on their final possession. Since they fired Robert Saler, the

979
00:47:29,960 --> 00:47:31,720
Speaker 1: New York Jets are one in five.

980
00:47:34,440 --> 00:47:35,880
Speaker 5: So who are gonna who are they gonna point to

981
00:47:35,880 --> 00:47:36,160
Speaker 5: blame that?

982
00:47:36,280 --> 00:47:36,440
Speaker 1: Now?

983
00:47:36,680 --> 00:47:41,640
Speaker 4: I'm just curious. Uh, the media, Now the media. When

984
00:47:41,680 --> 00:47:43,720
Speaker 4: Aaron Rodgers talked, who is he going to blame?

985
00:47:43,760 --> 00:47:43,960
Speaker 2: Now?

986
00:47:44,320 --> 00:47:47,080
Speaker 1: The media? Uh, well, he can't blame he can't blame

987
00:47:47,680 --> 00:47:52,000
Speaker 1: Mike Williams. But the media. Uh, it's the stench in

988
00:47:52,040 --> 00:47:54,200
Speaker 1: the building because they've been losing so long and these

989
00:47:54,239 --> 00:47:56,560
Speaker 1: guys don't understand what it takes to win. He ain't

990
00:47:56,560 --> 00:47:59,600
Speaker 1: gonna play. He gonna put it on himself. Now, Oh

991
00:47:59,680 --> 00:48:00,799
Speaker 1: you thought fake him?

992
00:48:02,000 --> 00:48:02,480
Speaker 2: I would hope.

993
00:48:02,520 --> 00:48:02,600
Speaker 1: So.

994
00:48:02,960 --> 00:48:05,080
Speaker 4: I would think at some point, understanding that you are

995
00:48:05,239 --> 00:48:09,080
Speaker 4: the leader of that team, at some point you take accountability.

996
00:48:09,520 --> 00:48:11,680
Speaker 4: You take accountability for the fact that maybe I'm not

997
00:48:11,680 --> 00:48:14,359
Speaker 4: playing well, maybe I'm not playing as as good as

998
00:48:14,400 --> 00:48:16,359
Speaker 4: I should be to give us a.

999
00:48:16,400 --> 00:48:17,040
Speaker 5: Chance to win.

1000
00:48:18,200 --> 00:48:21,279
Speaker 4: In those moments when it counts most. Am I making

1001
00:48:21,320 --> 00:48:23,480
Speaker 4: the throws? Am I making the plays to give my

1002
00:48:23,560 --> 00:48:24,759
Speaker 4: team the best chance to win?

1003
00:48:24,800 --> 00:48:25,120
Speaker 2: You know what?

1004
00:48:25,400 --> 00:48:30,000
Speaker 4: Right now, I'm not playing well. Not once, not once,

1005
00:48:30,040 --> 00:48:31,880
Speaker 4: have we heard that at all?

1006
00:48:32,560 --> 00:48:40,400
Speaker 1: The numbers speak as mass mass mass, that's what they

1007
00:48:40,440 --> 00:48:42,560
Speaker 1: need to be shouting. I would go to that with

1008
00:48:42,680 --> 00:48:44,840
Speaker 1: five Marshalls. It's on the one side. I would be

1009
00:48:44,880 --> 00:48:45,600
Speaker 1: on the other side.

1010
00:48:46,040 --> 00:48:51,719
Speaker 2: Yeah, hill, he past.

1011
00:48:55,200 --> 00:48:57,960
Speaker 1: I'm just run out of people. Now, look, you blame

1012
00:48:58,040 --> 00:49:01,920
Speaker 1: Robert Solo, you Blaeve? Uh, what's the what's the coordinator?

1013
00:49:02,640 --> 00:49:03,040
Speaker 2: Hackett?

1014
00:49:03,239 --> 00:49:08,799
Speaker 1: Nathaniel Hackett, William I want to go hold that. Yeah,

1015
00:49:09,000 --> 00:49:11,040
Speaker 1: I'm just waiting on. I'm just waiting on the roll call.

1016
00:49:11,200 --> 00:49:14,200
Speaker 1: Who next, Chap? Who next? Who get blamed?

1017
00:49:16,000 --> 00:49:18,240
Speaker 2: Hey? Again?

1018
00:49:19,120 --> 00:49:20,880
Speaker 4: The funny thing about it is this has been an

1019
00:49:20,920 --> 00:49:23,920
Speaker 4: ongoing issue, whether Aaron Rodgers was there or not, regardless

1020
00:49:23,920 --> 00:49:25,839
Speaker 4: to what quarterback was at the helm. Regardless of what

1021
00:49:25,920 --> 00:49:28,960
Speaker 4: quarterback was there in that situation, the Jets have always

1022
00:49:28,960 --> 00:49:31,080
Speaker 4: had this problem for a very long time. For a

1023
00:49:31,160 --> 00:49:33,920
Speaker 4: very long time. They haven't had a winning season for

1024
00:49:33,960 --> 00:49:34,680
Speaker 4: a very long time.

1025
00:49:34,719 --> 00:49:38,080
Speaker 1: But I thought, hold on, what about that Cayenne pepper

1026
00:49:38,120 --> 00:49:39,920
Speaker 1: and water I thought that was the fountain of the

1027
00:49:39,920 --> 00:49:41,840
Speaker 1: youths fountain of youth for.

1028
00:49:41,920 --> 00:49:42,640
Speaker 5: That Cayenne pepper.

1029
00:49:43,000 --> 00:49:44,520
Speaker 1: Hold on, what about? What about when you you know?

1030
00:49:44,960 --> 00:49:48,879
Speaker 1: Hold what do you say you got to embrace the darkness? Right?

1031
00:49:49,000 --> 00:49:51,279
Speaker 2: I thought we embracing darkness? Right?

1032
00:49:51,360 --> 00:49:53,520
Speaker 1: I thought we go down house to wacabout washing to

1033
00:49:53,760 --> 00:49:55,480
Speaker 1: washertusa or whatever it is.

1034
00:49:57,640 --> 00:49:59,319
Speaker 2: You know that stuff that you got.

1035
00:49:59,040 --> 00:50:02,160
Speaker 1: The hallooin magenic properties in it, right, it calls you

1036
00:50:02,200 --> 00:50:03,040
Speaker 1: to go out of your mind.

1037
00:50:03,200 --> 00:50:04,560
Speaker 2: Maybe you need to take another trip.

1038
00:50:04,960 --> 00:50:06,600
Speaker 1: I mean, hey, they got a game next week, but

1039
00:50:06,640 --> 00:50:08,520
Speaker 1: won't you go and make a I mean, ain't require

1040
00:50:09,160 --> 00:50:13,080
Speaker 1: you know game. You know, sometimes they're mandatory, sometimes they're volunteering,

1041
00:50:13,200 --> 00:50:15,560
Speaker 1: So maybe you take a you don't take a voluntary trip,

1042
00:50:15,640 --> 00:50:21,319
Speaker 1: just go away, right, I mean three and eight? What

1043
00:50:21,440 --> 00:50:23,160
Speaker 1: you think what you think the Jeff's record would be

1044
00:50:23,160 --> 00:50:26,440
Speaker 1: without it? If I'm three and eight.

1045
00:50:26,320 --> 00:50:27,839
Speaker 2: With him, you don't think I go three and eight

1046
00:50:27,880 --> 00:50:28,279
Speaker 2: without him?

1047
00:50:28,360 --> 00:50:35,200
Speaker 4: I say fifty billion, yeah, yeah, yeah, But you're paying

1048
00:50:35,200 --> 00:50:38,040
Speaker 4: for what you think you're gonna get. You're paying for

1049
00:50:38,120 --> 00:50:39,719
Speaker 4: what you think you're gonna get from the past and

1050
00:50:39,760 --> 00:50:41,560
Speaker 4: what he's done in the past based on his resume,

1051
00:50:41,640 --> 00:50:42,760
Speaker 4: that's what you're paying is.

1052
00:50:43,080 --> 00:50:44,799
Speaker 1: But see, that's what I love about sports on Joe

1053
00:50:45,320 --> 00:50:47,440
Speaker 1: because it's the one thing that you required, you update

1054
00:50:47,440 --> 00:50:51,040
Speaker 1: your resume every single week to you got to oh,

1055
00:50:51,160 --> 00:50:56,440
Speaker 1: oh you got this great resume. Oh it's unbelievable, it's affacable. Yeah,

1056
00:50:56,960 --> 00:50:58,560
Speaker 1: Janet Jackson said the best. You say, what have you

1057
00:50:58,600 --> 00:50:59,280
Speaker 1: done for me lately?

1058
00:50:59,280 --> 00:50:59,480
Speaker 2: Though?

1059
00:51:00,080 --> 00:51:01,880
Speaker 5: But you know what you know, it's funny.

1060
00:51:03,000 --> 00:51:05,319
Speaker 4: You know they always stend a certain position grace when

1061
00:51:05,320 --> 00:51:06,280
Speaker 4: it comes to what they've.

1062
00:51:06,040 --> 00:51:06,720
Speaker 5: Done in the past.

1063
00:51:08,000 --> 00:51:09,040
Speaker 2: Well, that's what they think.

1064
00:51:09,080 --> 00:51:11,360
Speaker 4: They always extend a certain a certain court of a

1065
00:51:11,360 --> 00:51:13,879
Speaker 4: certain position. They extend them grace based on what they've

1066
00:51:13,880 --> 00:51:14,600
Speaker 4: done in the past.

1067
00:51:15,080 --> 00:51:17,680
Speaker 2: I don't I believe, O Joe, I am. This is

1068
00:51:17,680 --> 00:51:18,360
Speaker 2: how I believe.

1069
00:51:18,880 --> 00:51:22,920
Speaker 1: I believe that there's never been a player or a

1070
00:51:23,040 --> 00:51:26,839
Speaker 1: person that's been above reproach. I don't give you what

1071
00:51:26,880 --> 00:51:30,200
Speaker 1: you deserve. I give you what you earned. He's earned

1072
00:51:30,200 --> 00:51:33,239
Speaker 1: the criticism in which we're leveling against him.

1073
00:51:33,480 --> 00:51:34,239
Speaker 2: Everybody knows.

1074
00:51:34,280 --> 00:51:37,239
Speaker 1: If you know me, if you follow Shannon Shark for

1075
00:51:37,400 --> 00:51:40,840
Speaker 1: my time on undisput it, I've been Aaron Rodgers' biggest supporter.

1076
00:51:41,239 --> 00:51:42,880
Speaker 2: Do I think he's arrogant? Yes.

1077
00:51:43,080 --> 00:51:45,680
Speaker 1: Do I think he's flipping yes. Do I think he's

1078
00:51:45,719 --> 00:51:52,000
Speaker 1: condescended yes. Do I think he's dismissing yes. Do I

1079
00:51:52,000 --> 00:51:56,120
Speaker 1: think he blames others for his mistakes? Absolutely? But I

1080
00:51:56,160 --> 00:51:58,080
Speaker 1: say he's one of He's the greatest thrower of the

1081
00:51:58,120 --> 00:52:05,439
Speaker 1: football that I've ever seen with my own joy. Yeah,

1082
00:52:05,480 --> 00:52:08,280
Speaker 1: And I believe to I believe I can fairly assess.

1083
00:52:09,320 --> 00:52:12,600
Speaker 1: Do I like how he's treated somebody to blame others? No,

1084
00:52:13,960 --> 00:52:16,160
Speaker 1: But that doesn't stop me from doing my job and

1085
00:52:16,200 --> 00:52:19,040
Speaker 1: saying he's a damn good when he plays well, I

1086
00:52:19,160 --> 00:52:22,000
Speaker 1: have no problem saying Aaron Rodgers has played well for

1087
00:52:22,080 --> 00:52:29,239
Speaker 1: seven and a half years. But I know, but I've

1088
00:52:29,280 --> 00:52:32,400
Speaker 1: talked to people, I know people, and we'll just leave

1089
00:52:32,440 --> 00:52:32,719
Speaker 1: it at that.

1090
00:52:33,640 --> 00:52:36,520
Speaker 2: But hey, and you're right.

1091
00:52:36,560 --> 00:52:39,640
Speaker 1: A lot of time, when someone is so great, you

1092
00:52:39,800 --> 00:52:43,480
Speaker 1: willing to overlook their flaws.

1093
00:52:45,239 --> 00:52:46,200
Speaker 5: That's a good one right now.

1094
00:52:47,239 --> 00:52:48,040
Speaker 2: And that's when anything.

1095
00:52:48,080 --> 00:52:51,680
Speaker 1: It's just not with sports, somebody that's really good at something,

1096
00:52:51,880 --> 00:52:54,600
Speaker 1: you allow them to do a lot of things that

1097
00:52:54,600 --> 00:52:56,319
Speaker 1: you wouldn't allow somebody else to do.

1098
00:52:56,960 --> 00:52:57,200
Speaker 2: Right.

1099
00:52:59,680 --> 00:53:02,480
Speaker 1: But what I think the things that I love most

1100
00:53:02,480 --> 00:53:06,520
Speaker 1: about a person, about people that have power then lived

1101
00:53:06,560 --> 00:53:07,480
Speaker 1: on a music.

1102
00:53:09,160 --> 00:53:09,920
Speaker 2: John knew.

1103
00:53:10,320 --> 00:53:13,839
Speaker 1: John could miss practice and he could not be at

1104
00:53:13,880 --> 00:53:22,640
Speaker 1: many camps, or he could do something never right never, Yeah,

1105
00:53:22,920 --> 00:53:27,680
Speaker 1: I mean when you when you blow it off. See See,

1106
00:53:28,200 --> 00:53:32,319
Speaker 1: there's a difference between being able to influence people and

1107
00:53:32,400 --> 00:53:33,760
Speaker 1: being able to leave people.

1108
00:53:33,920 --> 00:53:35,479
Speaker 2: Now, don't tell let that go over your head.

1109
00:53:35,560 --> 00:53:39,359
Speaker 5: Now, that's a good one.

1110
00:53:39,440 --> 00:53:41,520
Speaker 1: Let's move on you. Let's go Let's move on Joe

1111
00:53:41,560 --> 00:53:45,040
Speaker 1: because were her. This was Richardson's first game back of

1112
00:53:45,120 --> 00:53:47,719
Speaker 1: the starter and was a milestone afternoon for the second

1113
00:53:47,800 --> 00:53:50,200
Speaker 1: your quarterback. He threw four career high two hundred and

1114
00:53:50,200 --> 00:53:52,719
Speaker 1: seventy two yards and a passing touchdown, and had his

1115
00:53:52,840 --> 00:53:56,480
Speaker 1: best completion percentage in a game where he attempted at

1116
00:53:56,600 --> 00:53:59,759
Speaker 1: least twenty passes. Richardon also added thirty two yards and

1117
00:53:59,800 --> 00:54:02,799
Speaker 1: two scores on ten Russian attempts. Is his first game

1118
00:54:02,840 --> 00:54:06,040
Speaker 1: with multiple Russian touchdowns since Week two of twenty twenty three.

1119
00:54:06,280 --> 00:54:09,560
Speaker 1: Today was his first game with three combined touchdown. If

1120
00:54:09,600 --> 00:54:14,200
Speaker 1: I'm not mistaken, I saw something that says Richardson is

1121
00:54:14,280 --> 00:54:15,759
Speaker 1: younger than Shador Sanders.

1122
00:54:15,960 --> 00:54:18,480
Speaker 2: He's younger than Beck, he's younger than cam Ward.

1123
00:54:18,719 --> 00:54:21,600
Speaker 1: He's younger than all the quarterbacks that's playing that's gonna

1124
00:54:21,600 --> 00:54:24,480
Speaker 1: come into the draft, O Joe. And he's two years

1125
00:54:24,480 --> 00:54:27,799
Speaker 1: in the NFL. Yeah, that's crazy.

1126
00:54:28,480 --> 00:54:29,359
Speaker 5: Yeah, it is.

1127
00:54:29,840 --> 00:54:30,239
Speaker 2: It is.

1128
00:54:30,840 --> 00:54:34,719
Speaker 4: And on top of that, I'm happy. I'm meant to

1129
00:54:34,760 --> 00:54:39,000
Speaker 4: send it to you because, oh, because I was reading

1130
00:54:39,040 --> 00:54:39,319
Speaker 4: this thing.

1131
00:54:39,360 --> 00:54:44,160
Speaker 1: Oh, Joe, Right, Chador's in college, cam Ward is in college.

1132
00:54:44,480 --> 00:54:48,240
Speaker 1: Beck is in college. Right, this guy is the second

1133
00:54:48,280 --> 00:54:51,160
Speaker 1: year in the league. Yeah, and he's younger than them.

1134
00:54:51,880 --> 00:54:52,600
Speaker 5: How does that happen?

1135
00:54:52,640 --> 00:54:54,120
Speaker 2: He's younger than bo Knicks?

1136
00:54:54,560 --> 00:54:55,440
Speaker 5: How does that happen?

1137
00:54:55,840 --> 00:54:58,680
Speaker 2: That life? You try to get me the line?

1138
00:54:59,239 --> 00:55:01,720
Speaker 5: Okay, Okao, say okay, listen, I'm gonna happen.

1139
00:55:01,880 --> 00:55:05,880
Speaker 1: He's younger than your door Sanders, Carson Beck, Dylan Gabriel,

1140
00:55:06,200 --> 00:55:10,759
Speaker 1: Jade Daniels, Caleb Williams, bow Knicks, and Michael Pennick's junior.

1141
00:55:12,560 --> 00:55:15,880
Speaker 4: Okay, I'm confused. How does that happen? He's been in

1142
00:55:15,880 --> 00:55:17,080
Speaker 4: the NFL for two years?

1143
00:55:17,480 --> 00:55:20,160
Speaker 1: COVID? I guess you know. COVID you got you got

1144
00:55:20,160 --> 00:55:22,680
Speaker 1: three four, you got three extra years. So normally you

1145
00:55:22,680 --> 00:55:25,480
Speaker 1: have five to do four with COVID, you got eight

1146
00:55:25,560 --> 00:55:29,279
Speaker 1: to do five. Right, That's all I got for you,

1147
00:55:29,320 --> 00:55:31,560
Speaker 1: O Joe. I wish I could give you something else

1148
00:55:31,600 --> 00:55:33,400
Speaker 1: on yo to hey, so you can seek your teeth

1149
00:55:33,400 --> 00:55:34,240
Speaker 1: into But that's.

1150
00:55:34,080 --> 00:55:37,000
Speaker 4: All right, right, right right, I really can't bite it

1151
00:55:37,000 --> 00:55:38,160
Speaker 4: into that what you just told me.

1152
00:55:38,200 --> 00:55:42,200
Speaker 5: I came bite into that, because.

1153
00:55:42,160 --> 00:55:43,920
Speaker 2: How is it? How is how is he? Like?

1154
00:55:43,960 --> 00:55:54,239
Speaker 6: Twenty one turn twenty two?

1155
00:55:56,600 --> 00:56:00,120
Speaker 5: Well young you young bully, young man. Yes, young, I'm

1156
00:56:00,120 --> 00:56:01,239
Speaker 5: glad he I'm glad he.

1157
00:56:01,200 --> 00:56:03,480
Speaker 2: Paid you, glady bounce back to I'm glad he bounced

1158
00:56:03,520 --> 00:56:03,719
Speaker 2: back to.

1159
00:56:04,120 --> 00:56:08,600
Speaker 1: And you know, maybe that situation where he pulled himself

1160
00:56:08,600 --> 00:56:12,160
Speaker 1: out of the gate, he learned, he young, he young,

1161
00:56:12,400 --> 00:56:16,879
Speaker 1: I mean, lets a learned sometimes ohoe, you just keep

1162
00:56:16,920 --> 00:56:20,920
Speaker 1: your mouth shut. Yeah that you you ain't got to

1163
00:56:20,960 --> 00:56:23,960
Speaker 1: share everything with everybody, right right.

1164
00:56:24,760 --> 00:56:27,200
Speaker 4: He was a little too honest, look too honest. He

1165
00:56:27,239 --> 00:56:29,000
Speaker 4: was a little too honest to a fault.

1166
00:56:29,400 --> 00:56:33,719
Speaker 1: Sometimes it is okay to misspeak the truth if it

1167
00:56:33,760 --> 00:56:36,160
Speaker 1: will say great harm or embarrassment.

1168
00:56:37,280 --> 00:56:40,920
Speaker 4: Yeah, you know what else what I need to do offensively?

1169
00:56:41,840 --> 00:56:44,480
Speaker 4: You know he had a shoulder, certain shoulder, certain, he.

1170
00:56:44,480 --> 00:56:47,680
Speaker 1: Gotta stop loading that shoulder. Put the bad shoulder again

1171
00:56:47,800 --> 00:56:49,560
Speaker 1: the left. Oh sho, I got it. I need this.

1172
00:56:50,239 --> 00:56:53,240
Speaker 5: Foret forget that part that these are design runs.

1173
00:56:53,920 --> 00:56:57,600
Speaker 4: They put the RMS weight with design runs obviously trying

1174
00:56:57,600 --> 00:56:59,560
Speaker 4: to take the ball out of his hands and making

1175
00:56:59,560 --> 00:57:01,719
Speaker 4: sure he does doesn't, you know, have any turnovers, and

1176
00:57:01,760 --> 00:57:03,880
Speaker 4: make sure he protects the ball they give him design runs.

1177
00:57:04,120 --> 00:57:06,839
Speaker 5: Protect your quarterback a little bit more protectingly, protect them

1178
00:57:06,840 --> 00:57:07,720
Speaker 5: a little bit more. Please.

1179
00:57:08,560 --> 00:57:13,279
Speaker 1: But oh joe, if he just if he gets three

1180
00:57:13,320 --> 00:57:17,440
Speaker 1: percent better, Yeah, with the weapons that he has Peers

1181
00:57:17,440 --> 00:57:23,520
Speaker 1: and Pittman Jr. And Ali cox Man, Oh joe, Yeah,

1182
00:57:24,000 --> 00:57:26,840
Speaker 1: because he got weapons. Jonathan Taylor can run the football.

1183
00:57:27,040 --> 00:57:29,440
Speaker 1: They got a solid offensive line. Now it's not as

1184
00:57:29,760 --> 00:57:32,440
Speaker 1: as dominant as it once was, but they're still solid.

1185
00:57:32,880 --> 00:57:35,480
Speaker 2: Yeah, they're still solid.

1186
00:57:35,480 --> 00:57:39,520
Speaker 1: Boy, if he just get incrementally better going to the

1187
00:57:39,600 --> 00:57:41,680
Speaker 1: lab and says, I'm gonna get better and throwing this

1188
00:57:41,800 --> 00:57:42,600
Speaker 1: damn football.

1189
00:57:42,960 --> 00:57:46,800
Speaker 5: Yeah, being able to touch, being being finessed every ball, every.

1190
00:57:46,600 --> 00:57:51,960
Speaker 1: Ball, with that, with that, with that, uh, with that offense,

1191
00:57:52,040 --> 00:57:54,960
Speaker 1: with that offensive west skill, the weapons that he has.

1192
00:57:55,400 --> 00:57:55,800
Speaker 5: Mm hmm.

1193
00:57:56,880 --> 00:57:58,880
Speaker 2: Hey, he can be. He can be. He can be.

1194
00:57:58,960 --> 00:58:01,120
Speaker 1: He can be special man, because you see it, you

1195
00:58:01,200 --> 00:58:04,200
Speaker 1: see six but he he six ' four, two fifty five.

1196
00:58:04,240 --> 00:58:04,800
Speaker 2: He can run.

1197
00:58:05,880 --> 00:58:08,760
Speaker 1: Got a great athletic system. But at the end of

1198
00:58:08,800 --> 00:58:11,840
Speaker 1: the day, you gotta be able to throw the football.

1199
00:58:12,160 --> 00:58:14,760
Speaker 1: The best quarterbacks were probably your least after they're the

1200
00:58:14,840 --> 00:58:16,920
Speaker 1: least athletic players on the f and field.

1201
00:58:17,320 --> 00:58:17,840
Speaker 2: Now not.

1202
00:58:18,080 --> 00:58:20,320
Speaker 1: I mean, obviously you take Vick, can you take guys

1203
00:58:20,360 --> 00:58:22,880
Speaker 1: like Vick and Lamar? But on the average, when you

1204
00:58:22,920 --> 00:58:25,040
Speaker 1: go back and look at all the quarterbacks that have played,

1205
00:58:28,120 --> 00:58:30,520
Speaker 1: the only position they could have played was quarterback. What

1206
00:58:30,720 --> 00:58:32,800
Speaker 1: let me ask you a question, what position you think

1207
00:58:32,880 --> 00:58:38,760
Speaker 1: Tom Brady was gonna play other than quarterback? Peyton, Danny Jeorge,

1208
00:58:40,200 --> 00:58:46,600
Speaker 1: I they gonna play, They play anything but quarterback. Yeah,

1209
00:58:47,240 --> 00:58:49,760
Speaker 1: hey big Probably Big could have been a running back,

1210
00:58:49,800 --> 00:58:50,600
Speaker 1: could have been a dB.

1211
00:58:50,800 --> 00:58:52,600
Speaker 2: Same thing with Lamar, could have been running back, could

1212
00:58:52,640 --> 00:58:53,480
Speaker 2: have been a wide receiver.

1213
00:58:54,360 --> 00:58:59,280
Speaker 1: Yeah, most of us play quarterback at some point in time.

1214
00:58:59,600 --> 00:59:02,600
Speaker 2: Play wide receiver, play running back, play defeat.

1215
00:59:02,840 --> 00:59:04,880
Speaker 1: I guarantee you most of the quarterbacks the only thing

1216
00:59:04,920 --> 00:59:06,440
Speaker 1: they ever played was quarterback.

1217
00:59:06,680 --> 00:59:07,080
Speaker 5: Quarterback.

1218
00:59:07,160 --> 00:59:11,960
Speaker 1: Yeah, Detroit was fired on all celers today, Oh Joe,

1219
00:59:11,960 --> 00:59:15,240
Speaker 1: and they demolished the Jags fifty two to six. The

1220
00:59:15,240 --> 00:59:18,360
Speaker 1: Lions set of franchise records for marginal victory plus forty

1221
00:59:18,400 --> 00:59:22,400
Speaker 1: six total yards, six hundred and forty five first downs,

1222
00:59:22,480 --> 00:59:26,960
Speaker 1: thirty eight, Detroit scored touchdowns on each of its first

1223
00:59:27,000 --> 00:59:30,360
Speaker 1: seven offensive possessions. The Lions are only the third team

1224
00:59:30,720 --> 00:59:33,360
Speaker 1: in the past forty five years to do it. The

1225
00:59:33,400 --> 00:59:36,280
Speaker 1: two are the Patriots, the two thousand and nine Patriots

1226
00:59:36,400 --> 00:59:39,240
Speaker 1: and the two thousand and seven Patriots, a team you

1227
00:59:39,320 --> 00:59:42,480
Speaker 1: might remember when every game they played that season until

1228
00:59:42,480 --> 00:59:50,200
Speaker 1: the Super Bowl. So Jered Goff was twenty four of

1229
00:59:50,280 --> 00:59:54,800
Speaker 1: twenty nine, four hundred and twelve yards, four.

1230
00:59:54,600 --> 00:59:57,000
Speaker 2: Touchdowns, zero picks.

1231
00:59:57,520 --> 01:00:01,000
Speaker 1: They ran the ball forty three times for one hundred

1232
01:00:01,080 --> 01:00:05,080
Speaker 1: and ninety six yards, and they had four forty They

1233
01:00:05,080 --> 01:00:07,880
Speaker 1: had four hundred and forty nine total passing yards. It

1234
01:00:08,000 --> 01:00:10,680
Speaker 1: took golf out. Herndon Hooker came in. He was three

1235
01:00:10,760 --> 01:00:16,400
Speaker 1: or four. Almond Almanra Saint Brown eleven catches, one sixty one,

1236
01:00:16,720 --> 01:00:21,840
Speaker 1: two tugs, James and William four for one, four touchdown,

1237
01:00:22,080 --> 01:00:26,360
Speaker 1: Jamir Gibbs one catch fifty four yards, Khalif Raymond two

1238
01:00:26,480 --> 01:00:29,280
Speaker 1: catches thirty yards, so forth and so on, and a

1239
01:00:29,320 --> 01:00:31,120
Speaker 1: part of Jenner pair tree.

1240
01:00:32,400 --> 01:00:35,640
Speaker 2: Hey, how you stop that man? How you stop? How

1241
01:00:35,640 --> 01:00:36,400
Speaker 2: do you spot like that?

1242
01:00:37,000 --> 01:00:40,600
Speaker 4: When you get contributions from everywhere, from your running game,

1243
01:00:41,280 --> 01:00:43,920
Speaker 4: from your passing game, you got two receivers going over

1244
01:00:43,920 --> 01:00:46,320
Speaker 4: one hundred. You can't find a way to stop a Monro,

1245
01:00:46,640 --> 01:00:48,440
Speaker 4: You can't find a way to stop Jameis Williams.

1246
01:00:48,520 --> 01:00:50,200
Speaker 5: Then you got to deal with the goddamn running game.

1247
01:00:50,200 --> 01:00:52,040
Speaker 4: You got to deal with Montgomery, crazy ass, you got

1248
01:00:52,040 --> 01:00:55,560
Speaker 4: to deal with goddamn Sunk the Hedgehog and Jamiir Gibbs.

1249
01:00:55,880 --> 01:00:59,440
Speaker 5: There's nothing you can do. And then defensively they paint.

1250
01:01:00,000 --> 01:01:03,280
Speaker 4: Offensively, you got damn Brian Branch, crazy ass and the

1251
01:01:03,280 --> 01:01:04,919
Speaker 4: rest of that goddamn company out there.

1252
01:01:05,160 --> 01:01:08,960
Speaker 5: They playing extremely well. I mean, what do you do?

1253
01:01:09,920 --> 01:01:10,360
Speaker 2: What do you do?

1254
01:01:10,480 --> 01:01:13,080
Speaker 5: You hang up fifty two. This is the NFL game.

1255
01:01:13,160 --> 01:01:16,120
Speaker 4: This is the NFL game against another NFL team, an

1256
01:01:16,240 --> 01:01:18,280
Speaker 4: NFL team that's supposed to be the best of the best.

1257
01:01:18,400 --> 01:01:20,520
Speaker 5: I know, I know it's the Jacks. I know it's

1258
01:01:20,520 --> 01:01:22,840
Speaker 5: the Jags. But still, these are the one percentage. These

1259
01:01:22,840 --> 01:01:23,720
Speaker 5: are one percentage in.

1260
01:01:23,680 --> 01:01:26,840
Speaker 4: The world where we're displaying our best players that we

1261
01:01:26,920 --> 01:01:31,000
Speaker 4: had to choose from in a draft, in free agency,

1262
01:01:31,320 --> 01:01:32,800
Speaker 4: or however they were acquired.

1263
01:01:33,480 --> 01:01:34,840
Speaker 2: They got fifty two.

1264
01:01:34,680 --> 01:01:37,000
Speaker 5: Points hung up on them on fifty two.

1265
01:01:37,760 --> 01:01:39,360
Speaker 1: You got to force them to turn the ball over.

1266
01:01:39,480 --> 01:01:43,480
Speaker 1: If they don't turn it over the likelihood of you

1267
01:01:43,680 --> 01:01:45,680
Speaker 1: keeping them out of the ends on. Ben Johnson is

1268
01:01:45,720 --> 01:01:49,440
Speaker 1: doing an unbelievable job. Didn't here somewhere? Didn't somebody fire him?

1269
01:01:49,800 --> 01:01:50,400
Speaker 2: What was he at?

1270
01:01:50,480 --> 01:01:52,400
Speaker 1: Wasn't he at New Orleans? Where was Ben Johnson at?

1271
01:01:52,600 --> 01:01:54,160
Speaker 1: Because this age his first job? I don't think it

1272
01:01:54,240 --> 01:01:55,240
Speaker 1: is his first OC job.

1273
01:01:55,880 --> 01:01:57,960
Speaker 5: Yeah, missus john He went with the Coats. At one

1274
01:01:57,960 --> 01:01:58,600
Speaker 5: point on my.

1275
01:01:58,560 --> 01:02:04,360
Speaker 1: Tripping, he was at the Saints or was it Carolina?

1276
01:02:07,160 --> 01:02:09,400
Speaker 1: He was with the Dolphins. That's his only job, that's

1277
01:02:09,440 --> 01:02:16,160
Speaker 1: his only stop. Where was he after that?

1278
01:02:18,320 --> 01:02:18,400
Speaker 2: Oh?

1279
01:02:18,440 --> 01:02:24,720
Speaker 1: Okay, wow? Where was he before? He was at the

1280
01:02:24,760 --> 01:02:29,360
Speaker 1: Dolphins and he's been with the Lions ever since. The

1281
01:02:29,400 --> 01:02:33,080
Speaker 1: man had five interceptions last week. He had five incompletions

1282
01:02:33,080 --> 01:02:33,479
Speaker 1: this week.

1283
01:02:35,920 --> 01:02:38,320
Speaker 4: See you see they You know, you know one thing

1284
01:02:38,360 --> 01:02:40,480
Speaker 4: my grandma always told me, say God has faith.

1285
01:02:41,240 --> 01:02:44,040
Speaker 1: Clearly because remember, oh he had a game where he

1286
01:02:44,120 --> 01:02:46,480
Speaker 1: was eight eighteen or eighteen, nineteen or nineteen.

1287
01:02:47,040 --> 01:02:50,000
Speaker 4: Damn they're perfect. I think that was so what what

1288
01:02:50,160 --> 01:02:51,840
Speaker 4: what is the what is Jerry Goff's stats?

1289
01:02:51,920 --> 01:03:09,240
Speaker 2: Now? That's this thing out of batteries. Put him up

1290
01:03:11,160 --> 01:03:13,240
Speaker 2: as she's getting Jerry Goff's stats right.

1291
01:03:13,160 --> 01:03:25,080
Speaker 1: Now Okay, twenty nine and twenty five hundred yards. Well,

1292
01:03:25,120 --> 01:03:27,360
Speaker 1: what do you comes almost in three thousand yards right now?

1293
01:03:27,640 --> 01:03:32,240
Speaker 1: Joe Burrow, Joy, Joe Burrow. I thought Joe crossed three thousand.

1294
01:03:33,280 --> 01:03:35,080
Speaker 1: What I'm saying he got it because I think he

1295
01:03:35,160 --> 01:03:38,960
Speaker 1: was slightly above Lamar and Lamar and Lamar only had

1296
01:03:39,040 --> 01:03:43,280
Speaker 1: like one hundred and something maybe two hundred. But anyway, yeah, Joe, Joe,

1297
01:03:43,400 --> 01:03:48,840
Speaker 1: Joey just crossed. Uh he's at three thousand, He's right

1298
01:03:48,840 --> 01:03:51,960
Speaker 1: at three thousand, or he's slightly over three thousand, right,