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Speaker 1: Welcome to the Solid Verbo. I'll that for me. I'm

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Speaker 1: a man, I'm forty. I've heard so many players say, well,

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Speaker 1: I want to be happy. You want to be happy

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Speaker 1: for Dake Edith State. Is that? Whoo whoom? And Dan

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Speaker 1: and Tie welcome back to the Solid Rebel Boys. A

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Speaker 1: girl's my name is Ty Hildenbrand joining me over there

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Speaker 1: from his humble home. A gentleman. You know him well.

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Speaker 1: He is my friend and colleague and co host many years.

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Speaker 1: Dan Rubinstein, sir, how are you? I couldn't be worse? Ty, Wait,

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Speaker 1: speak once more. Let me hear what is this? What's

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Speaker 2: This is my speaking voice at the moment. I know

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Speaker 2: I generally have such a soothing bravado to my voice,

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Speaker 2: but you sound like I blame Jim Harbaugh because my

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Speaker 2: lovely wife Jody went to the Michigan game just because

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Speaker 2: Michigan was exciting and good, and then she was subjected

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Speaker 2: to him Monsoon and came back with.

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Speaker 1: A cold and now here we are. Wow. So this

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Speaker 1: might have real fantasy things implications for you. Now, the

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Speaker 1: Monsoon game, oh, it's so real, may be infecting your

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Speaker 2: Team Tight I want you to know this though, even

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Speaker 2: though I'm under the weather, I will go down with

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Speaker 2: this ship and I won't put my hands up and surrender.

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Speaker 1: Tie.

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Speaker 2: No, there will be no white flag above my door.

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Speaker 2: I'm in love with the solid verbal and always.

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Speaker 1: Will be those lyrics. Or are you just being dramatic?

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Speaker 1: Do you not know dido when you hear dido? Is

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Speaker 1: that what I'm to undern I'm not in tight with Dido?

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Speaker 1: Is that what that is? It will be no light

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Speaker 2: Oh, Tim, it's two in a row now that you've

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Speaker 2: thrown by me this. I figured it'd be wheelhouse for you, Tie,

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Speaker 2: and I could not be more dissipate in a row.

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Speaker 1: That's never happened before. Well, Hey, welcome on in to

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Speaker 1: the Solid Level podcast. Thank you to everyone out there

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Speaker 1: who listens on the regular who reviews the show. We've

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Speaker 1: been getting a ton of those who follows us on

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Speaker 1: Dan and I are in a unique situation. Normally we'll

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Speaker 1: record around dinner time on a Wednesday evening to preview

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Speaker 1: the coming week of games, but due to a scheduling

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Speaker 1: conflict on this end and a bunch of other stuff

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Speaker 1: going around. You've got us here doing a live to

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Speaker 1: tape show that I promise you will not be edited

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Speaker 1: at all. If there are any goose, We're just going

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Speaker 1: to try and gloss over them as best we can.

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Speaker 1: And furthermore, you've got the cold and I'm not kidding,

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Speaker 1: I am on the fringes of my recurring voice situation

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Speaker 2: Yeah, Ty, this is a blue collar lunch pail show.

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Speaker 2: We just go out there. We take care of business.

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Speaker 2: No matter what's going on inside our bodies, it's what

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Speaker 1: So Week seven we are here to talk about Week

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Speaker 1: seven in the college football universe. We should start, though,

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Speaker 1: in a manner that we haven't started in quite some time,

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Speaker 1: because do you want to be the Oregon State head coach? Nope,

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Speaker 1: because it's open. So what happened here? It was announced

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Speaker 1: parting ways, which is typically something you hear in relation

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Speaker 1: In this case, sort of Nope, we're just gonna go

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Speaker 1: different ways. We're breaking up. We're breaking up amicably. Gary

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Speaker 2: Wasn't there was a Seinfeld episode when he was dating

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Speaker 2: I imagine Orgon State if they had their way, not

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Speaker 1: I give him credit if he's able to recognize it

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Speaker 1: in this regard. But Oregon State your early front runner

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Speaker 1: So we shall see. What if Mike Riley leaves or

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Speaker 2: I wouldn't do that if I were Oregon State. Sometimes

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Speaker 1: The first is the what are these called UCF space uniforms?

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Speaker 1: Do we have a name, like an official name from

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Speaker 1: But there's space themed football uniforms, that is that are

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Speaker 1: honoring NASA that UCF's going away this weekend.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean it's some sort of it says space

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Speaker 1: So some space game booner theme.

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Speaker 2: Okay, So if you look at the UCF typeface on

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Speaker 2: the helmet, those three letters, the print the design within

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Speaker 2: the UCF is are they craters?

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Speaker 1: Tie?

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Speaker 2: You would know better than I craters on the moon.

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Speaker 1: I'm a big space geek.

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Speaker 2: Right, So those are the texture of craters in the

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Speaker 2: the helmet. The crown of the helmet is it's a

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Speaker 1: You got some galaxies in there, maybe a little big

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Speaker 1: who listens in Vermont, Big space geek, fellow space geek.

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Speaker 1: Just a whole lot of stuff going on here. And

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Speaker 1: I dig, I dig. This is a uniform done right.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, and UF with its location in Orlando obviously not

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Speaker 2: far from NASA, and a number of space type companies,

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Speaker 2: so honoring the relationship that the university has had. And

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Speaker 2: you're a space guy, ty.

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Speaker 1: Yeah.

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Speaker 2: Everybody's got at least one topic where if they come

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Speaker 2: I like reading about drug cartels. Yeah, I like reading

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Speaker 1: We've talked about this, We've talked about this ad nauseum.

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Speaker 1: If you had one topic to read about for the

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Speaker 2: I don't love them, but I find the process of

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Speaker 2: about UCF. These are all total facts. The Knights are

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Speaker 1: This is all to.

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Speaker 2: Say UCF is really frigging good so far. Would you

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Speaker 2: say that there are otherworldly outer space? They're they're they're

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Speaker 2: out of this world. They're stellar, they are they're they're

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Speaker 1: They're very very good this season, and I dig by

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Speaker 1: the way, my topic would be outer space if I'm

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Speaker 1: on that deserted island. UCF has been an incredible turnaround

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Speaker 1: story the last two years, obviously giving UCF fans a

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Speaker 1: lot to talk about, a lot to be excited about.

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Speaker 1: We've had some folks tweeting us, why don't you talk

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Speaker 1: more about UCF When you wear space outfits, it's kind

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Speaker 1: of hard not to. We felt that, Kensey Milton. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: absolutely so on the heels of that. And while we're

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Speaker 1: in the great state of Florida, I guess we got

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Speaker 1: to talk about the swamp greens that Florida is trotting

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Speaker 1: out this week. First off, I'm I've got a color

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Speaker 1: blindness issue. I don't know if you're aware of this.

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Speaker 2: Oh I know, but sort of about this, Yes, are

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Speaker 2: these actually green outfits?

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Speaker 1: Now? Because to me, they don't look green on the

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Speaker 2: They're They're the color of a bog. So it's that

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Speaker 2: an indiscriminate color between a bog a bog, so sort

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Speaker 2: of like a charcoalish. It's not charcolish green.

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Speaker 1: It's just.

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Speaker 2: It's like what vomit would look like in the onset

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Speaker 2: of colored film. Like, Okay, it's a it's a color

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Speaker 2: you cannot find an HTML hex fo tie.

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Speaker 1: If you thank you for that. If you go out

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Speaker 1: to Google and just look up swamp green Florida uniform,

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Speaker 1: just see what we're talking about. What I thought of

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Speaker 2: What I don't understand is how is there not a

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Speaker 2: I'm not sure what's going this is this is too

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Speaker 1: I should go with this. Yeah, right, Well, we're going

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Speaker 2: Do you have any other news Florida texts A and M.

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Speaker 2: We're not talking about FAMOU today.

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Speaker 2: Ty, Honestly, if I make it too its a halftime,

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Speaker 1: Well, for me, the window of opportunity would be later.

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Speaker 1: These teams, actually, if you look at them statistically, have

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Speaker 2: They absolutely do one hundred percent to defenses are probably

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, we've talked a lot about Justin Crawford

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Speaker 1: Let's talk about early on, we've said, hey, they're playing

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Speaker 2: Because it came down, right, it was at about five

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Speaker 1: It did come down Yeah, I generally will take the

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Speaker 1: I do like what I'm seeing from Texas Tech. In

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Speaker 2: Ty we agree, I really have a strong voice to

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Speaker 2: West Virginia's offense is still terrific defensively. Tony Gibson year on,

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Speaker 2: a lot After the Virginia Tech and TCU games, and

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Speaker 1: By the way, that'd be a huge road win, unbelieve

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Speaker 2: Just treading water? No, they're producing turnovers. David Gibbs has

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Speaker 2: of LSU alse You just can't fall backwards into a

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Speaker 1: Is that cool? All right? Sweet? All right, Well West

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Speaker 2: Okay, but also I'm wrong all the time, So well

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Speaker 1: Okay, Saturday high noon, Fox Sports one, TCU a four

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Speaker 2: I feel the vapors a little bit for Dalton shown

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Speaker 2: I believe it's Alex Dalton who played against Texas. I

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Speaker 2: I think they can win in too many ways. They're

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Speaker 1: I have the same margin of victory for TCU, but

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Speaker 1: the better team here. More variety, more variety on offense,

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Speaker 1: I should say, more proven on defense. I just think

437
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Speaker 1: more ways to win. Thirty four to twenty four is

438
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Speaker 1: going to be my prediction here. I think TCU wins

439
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Speaker 1: on the road and covers that. Being said, I can easily,

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Speaker 1: very easily envision a scenario in which goes totally the

441
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Speaker 1: other way in case State wins. But right now, my

442
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Speaker 1: gut tells me TCU by ten, Well.

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Speaker 2: Didn't Kansas State? I mean they held them under thirty.

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Speaker 2: Kansas Tate held Texas under thirty in regulation, right.

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Speaker 1: Under thirty in regulation. That is correct on the road.

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Speaker 1: But if I'm Melinger, if you look at that game,

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Speaker 1: I think the takeaway is that defense is what let

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Speaker 1: them down. That's fair.

449
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Speaker 2: I mean we're not going to rehash the full Texas

450
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Speaker 2: Canas the state game. Texas had a good day offensively,

451
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Speaker 2: that's I mean, they did a good job, good enough

452
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Speaker 2: job against the pass, and Kansas State moved the ball

453
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Speaker 2: through the air. But yeah, Texas was the better team.

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Speaker 2: Kansas State. You know it's they're coming back home. We'll

455
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Speaker 2: see if that.

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Speaker 1: Helps the other thing worth noting, and then I promise

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Speaker 1: sick guy. I'm all right. Saturday, three point thirty pm

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Speaker 1: Eastern on CBS. We've got a good one here. I'm

496
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Speaker 1: excited about this game. Got oh yeah, it'll be fun.

497
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Speaker 1: Auburn a seven point road favorite against LSU. LSU is

498
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Speaker 1: an interesting team now, They were always an interesting team

499
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Speaker 1: at the start of the twenty seventeen season for a

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Speaker 1: variety of different reasons. But after what we saw last week,

501
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Speaker 1: big seventeen sixteen road win in the Swamp over Florida,

502
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Speaker 1: we're talking reboots, right, reboot on offense for LSU. We

503
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Speaker 1: saw some some some gadgets that we liked. If LSU

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Speaker 1: has now gone through that reboot, I've been trying to

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Speaker 1: figure out all week what we call the last couple

506
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Speaker 1: games for Auburn because it's been like a bigger, more dramatic,

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Speaker 1: more exciting reboot. Maybe they rebooted very early on, and

508
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Speaker 1: now they're getting back up to speed, Like what do

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Speaker 1: we call this situation where the running game's been so stable,

510
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Speaker 1: the defense has been good, and Jared Stidham has started

511
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Speaker 1: to come into his.

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Speaker 2: Own well, I mean they've been rolling since Mercer and

513
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Speaker 2: they kind of struggle a little bit with Mercer.

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Speaker 1: So the Mercer boosts, I don't know, Okay, the Mercer boosts.

515
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Speaker 1: Can we can workshop that a little bit more? Yeah?

516
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Speaker 1: Absolutely in the lab. So all right, we saw promise

517
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Speaker 1: a week ago from LSU in the win, it still

518
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Speaker 1: wasn't what I would classify as an offensive explosion. They

519
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Speaker 1: only scored what seventeen points against pretty good defense. What

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Speaker 1: worries me here is what we saw a couple of

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Speaker 1: weeks back when LS lost by thirty to Mississippi State,

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Speaker 1: because in that game, everybody knew that the Bulldogs were

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Speaker 1: going to try and run it against LSU. Maybe, I mean,

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Speaker 1: maybe the game was an aberration, who knows, but miss

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Speaker 1: miss Sippy State knew or excuse me, LSU knew what

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Speaker 1: was coming from Mississippi State and they still couldn't stop it.

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Speaker 1: And so I look at a game like this and

528
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Speaker 1: I say, well, Okay, Jared Stidham's been he's been good,

529
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Speaker 1: he's looked comfortable. But the bread and butter of August

530
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Speaker 1: Malason and Auburn offense is that rushing attack, which has

531
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Speaker 1: really been on a much different level than any of

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Speaker 1: these teams that any of these teams that LSU has

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Speaker 1: played so far. So with that in mind, I think

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Speaker 1: Auburn wins the game by eleven.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, I feel pretty good about Auburn, just

536
00:27:49,720 --> 00:27:52,840
Speaker 2: in a vacuum, much more so than I do about LSU.

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00:27:53,000 --> 00:27:55,240
Speaker 2: The LSU defense is a new challenge as compared to

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Speaker 2: what Auburn has faced since Clemson, just in terms of

539
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Speaker 2: the speed. Just in terms of how well coach they are.

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00:28:00,720 --> 00:28:03,040
Speaker 2: It's they're ahead of Mississippi State, they're head of Ole Miss,

541
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Speaker 2: they're head of Mercer.

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Speaker 1: It's not saying much. They're head of the Zoo.

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Speaker 2: But Auburn is really you neglected to mention a big thing.

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Speaker 2: Auburn's led by maybe the best. I mean, they're a

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Speaker 2: top three four defense in the.

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Speaker 1: Country at this point. Yeah, that's fair right there.

547
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Speaker 2: I mean, you know, Alabama, Penn State, Wisconsin, Clemson, I mean,

548
00:28:22,760 --> 00:28:25,679
Speaker 2: were there are a top five defense. Probably nobody is

549
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Speaker 2: better than Auburn's defense in the red or whatever green

550
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Speaker 2: zone within the forty they just locked teams down. There's

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Speaker 2: a little bit of bend, but there is just basically

552
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Speaker 2: no break. And against LSU's offense, you know, if LSU

553
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Speaker 2: is going to score enough to win this game, they're

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Speaker 2: gonna need something. They're gonna need something the way of

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Speaker 2: broken plays, trick plays, special teams, something like that, because

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Speaker 2: I could not see more than two drives.

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Speaker 1: For touchdowns from this LSU offense.

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Speaker 2: I just can't. Defensively, LSU, You're right, they need to

559
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Speaker 2: stop the run.

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Speaker 1: Carry on.

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Speaker 2: Johnson is sort of I think he's leading the country

562
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Speaker 2: in touchdowns and he didn't even play a couple of games.

563
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Speaker 2: They need to get to third down. They need to

564
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Speaker 2: get Auburn to third down if they if they sort

565
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Speaker 2: of have any shot and make Jared Sidham, who has

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Speaker 2: been incredibly efficient, but just to keep drives going. Ah,

567
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Speaker 2: Auburn really hasn't played four quarters since that Clemson game.

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Speaker 2: So I would I would test them that way, you know,

569
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Speaker 2: keep them on the field. But I just I think

570
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Speaker 2: there's too much. But the fact that it is and

571
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Speaker 2: it's not a night game, but the fact that it's

572
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Speaker 2: in Baton Rouge. I'm actually gonna say twenty four to

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Speaker 2: twenty LSU covers, Auburn wins.

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Speaker 1: I could see that too. I went back and forth. Actually,

575
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Speaker 1: if I'm being honest, the main reason I'm gonna go

576
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Speaker 1: Auburn here is because my initial gut feel was to

577
00:29:35,240 --> 00:29:38,320
Speaker 1: go LSU. Yeah, that's all right, and we know how

578
00:29:38,360 --> 00:29:41,480
Speaker 1: that's worked out. I'm gonna say Auburn wins twenty eight seventeen.

579
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Speaker 1: I am not especially confident in that, but I want

580
00:29:45,400 --> 00:29:47,240
Speaker 1: to see a little bit more from LC, a little

581
00:29:47,280 --> 00:29:50,080
Speaker 1: bit more consistency across the board before I'm willing to

582
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Speaker 1: take them to cover against a really good Auburn defense

583
00:29:53,560 --> 00:29:57,960
Speaker 1: like this. Yeah. Absolutely, all right, let's go to another

584
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Speaker 1: Saturday at three thirds game. It's on ESPN, Dan, it

585
00:30:03,120 --> 00:30:07,080
Speaker 1: is Oklahoma, it is Texas. It is an eight point

586
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Speaker 1: line in favor of the Sooners. It is the famed

587
00:30:11,200 --> 00:30:14,680
Speaker 1: red River Rivalry. And we do have a rule.

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Speaker 2: Oh that's a little too aggressive, Tie, Yeah, it was

589
00:30:17,520 --> 00:30:19,800
Speaker 2: the red River Shootout, but red River Rivalry it just

590
00:30:20,200 --> 00:30:23,320
Speaker 2: you know, it implies, you know, heads budding and maybe

591
00:30:23,320 --> 00:30:27,040
Speaker 2: the the red River terse handshake.

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Speaker 1: I mean, it's a lot of alliteration when you go

593
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Speaker 1: red River Rivalry. I still prefer the shootout. Yeah, but

594
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Speaker 1: officially the game title is the red River Rivalry, So

595
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Speaker 1: let's go with that. My question for you, though, and

596
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Speaker 1: I hope you'll remember the answer. We do have a

597
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Speaker 1: rule for big games like this rivalry games around around here?

598
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Speaker 1: Do we not keep the records inside? Right? No? Dan?

599
00:30:52,920 --> 00:30:54,800
Speaker 1: Actually you want to throw those records out the window?

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Speaker 1: Just throw them out? Okay, I always forget let me

601
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Speaker 1: start here, Okay, yes or no, Texas can win this game? Yes?

602
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Speaker 1: Did you want a full explanation. I'm trying to gauge

603
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Speaker 1: your level of confidence.

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00:31:14,960 --> 00:31:19,280
Speaker 2: Yeah, there's Yeah, there's a I don't know, thirty percent

605
00:31:19,360 --> 00:31:22,840
Speaker 2: chance of Texas win this game. To me, Okay, why

606
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Speaker 2: only why only thirty? Why only thirty? I mean, Oklahoma

607
00:31:28,080 --> 00:31:33,360
Speaker 2: is more than a touchdown favorite. Okay, Texas can't run

608
00:31:33,400 --> 00:31:35,440
Speaker 2: the ball. It seems like you should be able to

609
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Speaker 2: run the ball against a top twelve type team, right.

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Speaker 1: Okay, these are all valid points. I'm just listening. This

611
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Speaker 1: is a listening.

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00:31:45,520 --> 00:31:48,960
Speaker 2: We have the best quarterback in the country on one

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Speaker 2: of the teams that it's not Texas. That's the reason

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Speaker 2: why I'm only putting it at thirty ish percent. Okay,

615
00:31:56,480 --> 00:32:00,280
Speaker 2: we have a proven offense on one side and not

616
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Speaker 2: the other.

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Speaker 1: That's a reason these are all good points here. But yeah,

618
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Speaker 1: I'm going to harken back to Week two. Okay, Texas

619
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Speaker 1: took US seed overtime, and since then they might not

620
00:32:15,200 --> 00:32:17,440
Speaker 1: have the best quarterback in the country. They certainly don't,

621
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Speaker 1: but it does seem as if they found something with

622
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Speaker 1: Sam Ellinger. The defense has been playing pretty well over

623
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Speaker 1: the last few weeks. I think absolutely this team can win.

624
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Speaker 1: I think the odds are a lot better than thirty percent.

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Speaker 1: What I struggle with though, I mean, you already know

626
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Speaker 1: where I'm going with this because I always picked Texas

627
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Speaker 1: in this game. But what I struggle with, as someone

628
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Speaker 1: trying to trying to at least be objective, how much

629
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Speaker 1: of a reaction is a crazy overreaction to what we

630
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Speaker 1: saw last week when Oklahoma lost to Iowa State.

631
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Speaker 2: I don't think there's a crazier overreaction here, you know.

632
00:33:00,040 --> 00:33:02,040
Speaker 2: I think it's about right. I mean, if I think

633
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Speaker 2: if the spread happened before last week, what do we

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Speaker 2: know about I mean, Texas right now they are a

635
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Speaker 2: little bit worse than USC and a little bit better

636
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Speaker 2: than Kansas State.

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Speaker 1: I don't know how you feel.

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Speaker 2: And then they're like a kind of better than Iowa State,

639
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Speaker 2: which you can't really say about Oklahoma. But I think

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Speaker 2: if you play that Oklahoma Iowa State game ten times,

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Speaker 2: perhaps the numbers are different.

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00:33:24,520 --> 00:33:28,200
Speaker 1: That's fair. I'm just concerned to the extent that I

643
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Speaker 1: haven't been too impressed with Oklahoma's defense all year. That's fine.

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Speaker 2: They did a good job against Ohio State, didn't they.

645
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Speaker 1: They did it, just it worries me in this game.

646
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Speaker 2: I maybe Oklahoma is just a team that plays to

647
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Speaker 2: the level of their competition and takes decent teams seriously

648
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Speaker 2: and maybe perhaps doesn't recognize when other teams are decent

649
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Speaker 2: and not what they used to be.

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Speaker 1: That would be a fair scouting report on the state

651
00:33:56,200 --> 00:33:58,360
Speaker 1: of Oklahoma football over the last couple of years. I

652
00:33:58,360 --> 00:34:04,120
Speaker 1: think I am going Texas here because I can't resist it,

653
00:34:04,800 --> 00:34:08,080
Speaker 1: because Tom Herman's a big game coach, because he's got

654
00:34:08,080 --> 00:34:10,799
Speaker 1: a little bit of history with Oklahoma, certainly last year

655
00:34:10,840 --> 00:34:13,520
Speaker 1: when he knocked him off. And I think the Horns

656
00:34:13,560 --> 00:34:17,040
Speaker 1: win this game outright by a thirty five to thirty

657
00:34:17,040 --> 00:34:21,200
Speaker 1: one margin. I think Texas moves to three to zero

658
00:34:21,239 --> 00:34:24,160
Speaker 1: in Big Twelve Conference play for the first time in eons.

659
00:34:26,120 --> 00:34:28,320
Speaker 2: So if I gave you an over under of eighteen

660
00:34:28,360 --> 00:34:32,160
Speaker 2: and a half sam Ellinger carries, what are you taking?

661
00:34:33,760 --> 00:34:36,120
Speaker 1: I would go under? But I understand the line.

662
00:34:36,880 --> 00:34:39,520
Speaker 2: Okay, So let's let me agree with you at the

663
00:34:40,400 --> 00:34:45,080
Speaker 2: first points of why Texas is attractive. Their defense has

664
00:34:45,360 --> 00:34:48,600
Speaker 2: since the Maryland game, been pretty great, especially against the run.

665
00:34:48,719 --> 00:34:51,719
Speaker 2: The offense has shown improvement, it still stalls out too much.

666
00:34:51,760 --> 00:34:54,799
Speaker 2: It's still probably hangs. What we think is I think

667
00:34:54,960 --> 00:34:57,640
Speaker 2: a good defense out to dry too much, and for

668
00:34:57,640 --> 00:35:00,840
Speaker 2: some reason, the offense also doesn't find a way to

669
00:35:00,840 --> 00:35:03,760
Speaker 2: get the ball to Colin Johnson enough, which is crazy

670
00:35:04,719 --> 00:35:07,279
Speaker 2: because the Oklahoma defense gives up some big plays, as

671
00:35:07,280 --> 00:35:10,279
Speaker 2: we saw last weekend Duke of Hazard, Allan Lazard and

672
00:35:10,320 --> 00:35:15,440
Speaker 2: stuff and stuff. Beyond that, Oklahoma's offense has been pretty

673
00:35:15,480 --> 00:35:19,400
Speaker 2: much perfect. Baker Mayfield is averaging something like twelve yards

674
00:35:19,400 --> 00:35:22,080
Speaker 2: per pass attempt. I imagine he will be able to

675
00:35:22,200 --> 00:35:25,360
Speaker 2: do enough carving of this Texas pass defense, which I

676
00:35:25,400 --> 00:35:28,399
Speaker 2: think is also not bad. Both of these teams will

677
00:35:28,440 --> 00:35:29,880
Speaker 2: be up for the game. There won't be a letdown

678
00:35:29,920 --> 00:35:32,239
Speaker 2: from Kansas State in double overtime last week. There won't

679
00:35:32,280 --> 00:35:35,279
Speaker 2: be a malaise for Oklahoma since the Iowa State game.

680
00:35:35,320 --> 00:35:37,520
Speaker 2: There'll be up for this game. I have thirty four

681
00:35:37,560 --> 00:35:38,719
Speaker 2: to twenty four Oklahoma.

682
00:35:39,239 --> 00:35:44,240
Speaker 1: All right, we disagree, We disagree. Moving on another Saturday

683
00:35:44,239 --> 00:35:48,760
Speaker 1: at three thirty game, this one on ABC. Miami at home,

684
00:35:49,040 --> 00:35:52,720
Speaker 1: a six and a half point favorite over the Georgia

685
00:35:52,760 --> 00:35:57,839
Speaker 1: Tech yellow Jackets. So this is an interesting game. Yes,

686
00:35:57,920 --> 00:36:01,640
Speaker 1: I deliberated about throwing this one on our main slate here,

687
00:36:01,680 --> 00:36:05,720
Speaker 1: but Miami's an interesting team. We just really started talking

688
00:36:05,719 --> 00:36:08,840
Speaker 1: about them in earnest last week because of the Florida

689
00:36:08,840 --> 00:36:14,000
Speaker 1: State game. Georgia Tech. We last spoke of them when

690
00:36:14,040 --> 00:36:17,640
Speaker 1: they lost that heartbreaker back in Week one to Tennessee.

691
00:36:18,360 --> 00:36:21,360
Speaker 1: This is an interesting game to me for a variety

692
00:36:21,400 --> 00:36:25,760
Speaker 1: of reasons. Let's start here, though. Miami got some bad

693
00:36:25,840 --> 00:36:29,760
Speaker 1: news this week about Mark Walton. We've talked about Mark

694
00:36:29,800 --> 00:36:32,319
Speaker 1: Walton here and there. He was their star running back.

695
00:36:32,360 --> 00:36:35,920
Speaker 1: He was having a great year. Last week, did something

696
00:36:35,960 --> 00:36:38,600
Speaker 1: to his right ankle. This week found out he needs

697
00:36:38,600 --> 00:36:42,480
Speaker 1: surgery and he's done for the year. Yeah, that's obviously

698
00:36:42,480 --> 00:36:46,759
Speaker 1: a pretty big loss. They do have Travis Homer behind him,

699
00:36:47,239 --> 00:36:49,920
Speaker 1: who in limited actions so far this season has been

700
00:36:49,920 --> 00:36:52,719
Speaker 1: pretty productive. They're obviously going to need him to step

701
00:36:52,840 --> 00:36:56,200
Speaker 1: up in a much much more significant way. But if

702
00:36:56,239 --> 00:37:00,000
Speaker 1: the early returns are any indication, they should have enough

703
00:37:00,200 --> 00:37:03,439
Speaker 1: depth at running back to sustain that running game. Maybe

704
00:37:03,520 --> 00:37:06,480
Speaker 1: not quite to the heights of Mark Walton, but they

705
00:37:06,520 --> 00:37:10,560
Speaker 1: should be serviceable at running back moving forward. That doesn't

706
00:37:10,600 --> 00:37:15,319
Speaker 1: concern me as much as a potential let down ish

707
00:37:15,520 --> 00:37:19,040
Speaker 1: kind of spot does, as much as you know, some

708
00:37:19,200 --> 00:37:24,120
Speaker 1: other weird like injury factors elsewhere on the team concern me.

709
00:37:25,280 --> 00:37:29,200
Speaker 1: How concerned are you about the Cages dropping a game

710
00:37:29,280 --> 00:37:29,640
Speaker 1: like this.

711
00:37:31,280 --> 00:37:34,799
Speaker 2: Very first of all if you like running, ty and

712
00:37:34,840 --> 00:37:37,000
Speaker 2: trust me, if you could see my nose right now,

713
00:37:37,360 --> 00:37:41,120
Speaker 2: I like running. I'm a disaster. I'm a disaster right now.

714
00:37:41,400 --> 00:37:43,400
Speaker 2: If you like running, it's a terrific rushing matchup. There

715
00:37:43,440 --> 00:37:45,439
Speaker 2: is no Mark Walton, as we all know by now,

716
00:37:45,480 --> 00:37:48,000
Speaker 2: but Travis Homer, as you mentioned, also very good at

717
00:37:48,080 --> 00:37:51,760
Speaker 2: least in his limited action. Yes, it's a letdown spot.

718
00:37:51,880 --> 00:37:55,120
Speaker 2: Not only will they one undred percent be without Mark Walton,

719
00:37:55,160 --> 00:37:57,920
Speaker 2: I'm on Richard's now. Looks like he could be out Saturday.

720
00:37:58,360 --> 00:38:02,839
Speaker 2: And if Miami has a specific weakness right now, their

721
00:38:02,920 --> 00:38:04,960
Speaker 2: rush defense. We saw it against Duke, We saw it

722
00:38:05,040 --> 00:38:06,800
Speaker 2: last week. Cam Akers go off a little bit for

723
00:38:06,880 --> 00:38:09,600
Speaker 2: Florida State, you can go straight at Miami. They look

724
00:38:09,640 --> 00:38:12,400
Speaker 2: to confuse you. But at that same time, perhaps they

725
00:38:12,440 --> 00:38:15,080
Speaker 2: abandoned some gaps and lanes and stuff like that. On

726
00:38:15,200 --> 00:38:19,040
Speaker 2: top of that, Miami starts slow, as we've seen weekend

727
00:38:19,040 --> 00:38:21,200
Speaker 2: and week out, and this is an extremely efficient offense

728
00:38:21,239 --> 00:38:23,720
Speaker 2: that's able to overcome that against the teams they play.

729
00:38:24,360 --> 00:38:27,400
Speaker 2: But here's the thing against Georgia Tech specifically that I hate,

730
00:38:27,840 --> 00:38:31,360
Speaker 2: I hate hate about Miami. Early on, Miami has not

731
00:38:31,480 --> 00:38:34,600
Speaker 2: been good on third down. If there's one thing you

732
00:38:34,760 --> 00:38:37,600
Speaker 2: gotta be against Georgia Tech. You gotta be able to

733
00:38:37,600 --> 00:38:39,960
Speaker 2: get your defense off the field. You just have to,

734
00:38:40,520 --> 00:38:42,719
Speaker 2: and Miami has not been great at that this year.

735
00:38:42,760 --> 00:38:44,879
Speaker 2: They've been able to cover for it, but I don't

736
00:38:44,920 --> 00:38:46,640
Speaker 2: know if they're able to do it against Georgia Tech.

737
00:38:47,000 --> 00:38:48,439
Speaker 1: The good news for Miami.

738
00:38:48,520 --> 00:38:52,440
Speaker 2: Georgia Tech also has struggles stopping the run. I just

739
00:38:53,680 --> 00:38:56,560
Speaker 2: I right now based on what's happening just sort of

740
00:38:56,640 --> 00:38:59,360
Speaker 2: in the college football ether with it being a letdown

741
00:38:59,360 --> 00:39:03,440
Speaker 2: spot after dramatic breakthrough win against Florida State. Even though

742
00:39:03,520 --> 00:39:06,040
Speaker 2: this is I think Georgia Tech's first time leaving Atlanta

743
00:39:06,040 --> 00:39:08,319
Speaker 2: this season because they've had a cancelation and the first

744
00:39:08,320 --> 00:39:11,560
Speaker 2: game was in Atlanta. Just albeit in the NFL stadium,

745
00:39:12,600 --> 00:39:16,400
Speaker 2: I'm going to Tech out right here. WHOA just feels

746
00:39:16,920 --> 00:39:19,640
Speaker 2: like it's a there's a there's a bad cocktail brewing.

747
00:39:19,680 --> 00:39:21,680
Speaker 2: I know cocktails aren't brewed, but that's the that's the

748
00:39:22,280 --> 00:39:24,600
Speaker 2: the verbiage I'm going with twenty seven to twenty four

749
00:39:24,640 --> 00:39:25,239
Speaker 2: Georgia Tech.

750
00:39:25,800 --> 00:39:29,960
Speaker 1: Yeah, you know it's counterintuitive, but to your point, the

751
00:39:30,040 --> 00:39:33,719
Speaker 1: key to this game might be the backup running back

752
00:39:33,760 --> 00:39:36,359
Speaker 1: Travis Homer it might be. If he's even better than

753
00:39:36,400 --> 00:39:38,480
Speaker 1: the starter though, well then that's something we'll have to

754
00:39:38,560 --> 00:39:42,800
Speaker 1: draft next year. It's entirely possible. And uh yeah, Also

755
00:39:42,920 --> 00:39:47,359
Speaker 1: Malik Rosier, he can run as well. Did not look

756
00:39:47,400 --> 00:39:49,919
Speaker 1: good throwing the football a week ago against Florida State,

757
00:39:49,960 --> 00:39:52,919
Speaker 1: at least not until later in that game. My hunch

758
00:39:53,000 --> 00:39:56,200
Speaker 1: is he'd have more success against the Georgia Tech defense.

759
00:39:56,200 --> 00:40:00,479
Speaker 1: It isn't nearly as good, but you're right coming back home.

760
00:40:01,560 --> 00:40:04,680
Speaker 1: They start slow. The third down thing is is a

761
00:40:04,719 --> 00:40:08,839
Speaker 1: bit concerning, and the problem with starting slow against Georgia Tech.

762
00:40:09,760 --> 00:40:13,239
Speaker 1: They don't always start off fast either, but if they do,

763
00:40:13,360 --> 00:40:15,000
Speaker 1: and if they get a lead on you, that's when

764
00:40:15,000 --> 00:40:17,879
Speaker 1: they get more dangerous, even if it's like a three

765
00:40:17,960 --> 00:40:21,360
Speaker 1: point lead. Because of their style of play, they just

766
00:40:21,400 --> 00:40:23,960
Speaker 1: suck the life out of you and they make you

767
00:40:25,160 --> 00:40:27,680
Speaker 1: need to be efficient in order to beat them. So look,

768
00:40:27,680 --> 00:40:29,719
Speaker 1: I don't want to talk Georgia Tech up like they're

769
00:40:29,760 --> 00:40:33,640
Speaker 1: this acc juggernaut or anything. Well, we really have no idea,

770
00:40:33,800 --> 00:40:36,160
Speaker 1: right we don't. We don't, We really don't, And this

771
00:40:36,280 --> 00:40:40,120
Speaker 1: to me feels like a bad situation for Miami. I'm

772
00:40:40,120 --> 00:40:43,759
Speaker 1: not gonna go quite to the level you will and

773
00:40:43,840 --> 00:40:47,399
Speaker 1: say Miami outright, though I can see that happening. I'm

774
00:40:47,400 --> 00:40:50,799
Speaker 1: gonna say the Caines win this one, a wild one

775
00:40:50,960 --> 00:40:55,200
Speaker 1: like thirty eight, thirty three, something like that. Georgia Tech

776
00:40:55,320 --> 00:40:57,839
Speaker 1: covers but doesn't win outright, But they're in the game,

777
00:40:57,880 --> 00:41:03,399
Speaker 1: the entire game, all four quarters. Fair enough, Okay, Then

778
00:41:03,440 --> 00:41:07,800
Speaker 1: we go to the nightcap, this one also in the

779
00:41:07,840 --> 00:41:11,080
Speaker 1: Great State of Florida. Yes, it's on ESPN two, it's

780
00:41:11,120 --> 00:41:15,360
Speaker 1: at seven pm. We already talked about the Florida Gator

781
00:41:16,320 --> 00:41:21,400
Speaker 1: swamp green Gator print uniforms, right true, either the best

782
00:41:21,480 --> 00:41:23,759
Speaker 1: uniform of all time or the worst uniform of all time,

783
00:41:23,800 --> 00:41:27,720
Speaker 1: depending on your point of view. Florida is a three

784
00:41:27,800 --> 00:41:32,520
Speaker 1: point home favorite over Texas A and M. What do

785
00:41:32,560 --> 00:41:35,920
Speaker 1: we know about Florida so far this season? We know

786
00:41:35,960 --> 00:41:39,680
Speaker 1: they're really young. We know that Malik Davis and Felipe

787
00:41:39,840 --> 00:41:43,880
Speaker 1: Franks are both freshmen. We know that their defense, as

788
00:41:44,520 --> 00:41:48,239
Speaker 1: is usually the case, is pretty solid. I think we've

789
00:41:48,239 --> 00:41:51,720
Speaker 1: seen them in you know, a couple of games where

790
00:41:52,120 --> 00:41:55,080
Speaker 1: we've got an accurate sample of what Florida football is

791
00:41:55,360 --> 00:41:59,080
Speaker 1: in twenty seventeen. You could, to some degree say the

792
00:41:59,480 --> 00:42:02,600
Speaker 1: same things about Texas A and M. Right, we saw

793
00:42:02,680 --> 00:42:05,680
Speaker 1: him against the UCLA team. We saw him against Alabama.

794
00:42:05,719 --> 00:42:09,839
Speaker 1: They came back against Alabama late in that game. These

795
00:42:09,840 --> 00:42:12,000
Speaker 1: are two teams. I feel like we know an awful

796
00:42:12,040 --> 00:42:16,200
Speaker 1: lot about both of them, and I still have no

797
00:42:16,239 --> 00:42:18,360
Speaker 1: idea who to pick here. I really don't. It feels

798
00:42:18,440 --> 00:42:23,560
Speaker 1: to me like a really even game, right somewhat.

799
00:42:23,640 --> 00:42:26,240
Speaker 2: Yeah, the fact that it's in Gainesville, I think evens

800
00:42:26,280 --> 00:42:27,960
Speaker 2: it out a considerable amount. If this game was in

801
00:42:28,000 --> 00:42:30,960
Speaker 2: College Station, I think we would probably agree that Texas

802
00:42:30,960 --> 00:42:36,480
Speaker 2: A and M was probably in a better position. Agreed, absolutely, So, Yeah,

803
00:42:36,520 --> 00:42:38,719
Speaker 2: you're right. Florida has a pretty good defense. They tighten

804
00:42:38,800 --> 00:42:41,840
Speaker 2: up in the red zone really well. They're completely decimated

805
00:42:41,880 --> 00:42:44,040
Speaker 2: at receiver right now. And that's not to mention Luke

806
00:42:44,080 --> 00:42:46,520
Speaker 2: del Rio, a quarterback who looks like he's the pure

807
00:42:46,680 --> 00:42:51,719
Speaker 2: or he's the chosen starter or whatever. But no, Tyree Cleveland,

808
00:42:52,440 --> 00:42:57,640
Speaker 2: it looks like Candarius Tony is questionable. I'm not confident against.

809
00:42:57,680 --> 00:42:59,759
Speaker 2: After seeing Texas A and M's defense get better and

810
00:42:59,800 --> 00:43:03,960
Speaker 2: better since that UCLA game, I'm not all that comfortable with.

811
00:43:04,080 --> 00:43:06,120
Speaker 2: UH was saying that florida'sn being able to move the

812
00:43:06,120 --> 00:43:10,959
Speaker 2: ball successfully all that much. Offense is still largely a mess.

813
00:43:10,960 --> 00:43:14,000
Speaker 2: I like Felipe Franks, but that's mostly just deep. I

814
00:43:14,000 --> 00:43:17,480
Speaker 2: don't like his ability to march down the field. A

815
00:43:17,560 --> 00:43:19,960
Speaker 2: and M's offense is improved, but they're still at times

816
00:43:20,040 --> 00:43:22,320
Speaker 2: kind of a mess. But you see the wheels turning

817
00:43:22,320 --> 00:43:27,600
Speaker 2: with Kellen Mond, You do I think I'm going to

818
00:43:27,640 --> 00:43:29,560
Speaker 2: go A and M out right? Yeah, me too, And

819
00:43:29,600 --> 00:43:31,440
Speaker 2: I think I'm I'm not going to try to overthink it.

820
00:43:31,480 --> 00:43:33,480
Speaker 2: I just don't think Florida's been able to score enough.

821
00:43:34,000 --> 00:43:35,880
Speaker 2: I've got it's twenty to thirteen.

822
00:43:36,000 --> 00:43:38,920
Speaker 1: I've got twenty seven to seventeen. A and M opizzon

823
00:43:39,360 --> 00:43:42,839
Speaker 1: twenty sevens a lot to score on Florida. But I

824
00:43:42,880 --> 00:43:45,920
Speaker 1: am more energized right now by what I see from

825
00:43:46,040 --> 00:43:49,759
Speaker 1: Kellen Mond and the A and M offense than what

826
00:43:49,800 --> 00:43:52,800
Speaker 1: I've seen from Florida. This has been a half season

827
00:43:52,840 --> 00:43:55,960
Speaker 1: now for the Gators, and it still doesn't feel to

828
00:43:56,000 --> 00:44:00,319
Speaker 1: me like they've progressed beyond a few flashes here and

829
00:44:00,360 --> 00:44:03,040
Speaker 1: there from Felipe Franks. My league Davis has been pretty good,

830
00:44:03,080 --> 00:44:05,640
Speaker 1: but beyond that, it just it doesn't feel like it's

831
00:44:05,680 --> 00:44:10,080
Speaker 1: progressing quickly enough to potentially score with a team like

832
00:44:10,160 --> 00:44:13,600
Speaker 1: Texas A and M. The other quick point is I

833
00:44:13,760 --> 00:44:17,759
Speaker 1: do feel like Florida might be susceptible to some big

834
00:44:17,840 --> 00:44:21,640
Speaker 1: plays from Christian Kirk. Not like anyone out there isn't right,

835
00:44:21,680 --> 00:44:24,880
Speaker 1: But if you look at the numbers tendency wise, that's

836
00:44:24,920 --> 00:44:27,439
Speaker 1: been a bit of an achilles heel for them, big

837
00:44:27,440 --> 00:44:30,080
Speaker 1: passing plays. So sure, I am going to go A

838
00:44:30,160 --> 00:44:32,160
Speaker 1: and M out right, Twenty seven to seventeen would be

839
00:44:32,160 --> 00:44:35,120
Speaker 1: a huge road win in the swamp against those weirdo uniforms.

840
00:44:35,520 --> 00:44:38,680
Speaker 2: Also, Florida's putting some bad style karma out into that

841
00:44:38,760 --> 00:44:44,200
Speaker 2: universe tie. Yeah, yeah, the uniforms, oh right, yeah, absolutely,

842
00:44:44,239 --> 00:44:46,840
Speaker 2: they're just they're I don't know, it's not right, Ti.

843
00:44:46,800 --> 00:44:50,000
Speaker 1: It's just not right. Saturday at eight pm on ABC,

844
00:44:51,160 --> 00:44:56,720
Speaker 1: USC and Utahs square off. The game is in the Coliseum.

845
00:44:57,000 --> 00:45:00,960
Speaker 1: UFC is a thirteen point favorite. I'm sure both these

846
00:45:01,000 --> 00:45:03,960
Speaker 1: teams are crazy grateful that they're playing a night game

847
00:45:04,000 --> 00:45:08,480
Speaker 1: on ESPN and ABC. They have to be. They get

848
00:45:08,480 --> 00:45:11,240
Speaker 1: the eight pm Eastern kick. That's nice. Kirk Curve Street,

849
00:45:11,320 --> 00:45:18,200
Speaker 1: Chris Fower, what up? Okay? Sure? So thirteen points is

850
00:45:18,239 --> 00:45:22,799
Speaker 1: the line here? Huh? Many points? Does that feel abnormally

851
00:45:22,880 --> 00:45:26,040
Speaker 1: high to you at all a little bit.

852
00:45:26,280 --> 00:45:29,520
Speaker 2: I think there's concern about Utah at quarterback because we're

853
00:45:29,560 --> 00:45:32,160
Speaker 2: already now so Tyler Huntley is still hurt and was

854
00:45:32,280 --> 00:45:35,280
Speaker 2: very good when healthy. So it falls back to Troy Williams,

855
00:45:35,320 --> 00:45:38,800
Speaker 2: who we've seen before at Utah as just aggressively average.

856
00:45:39,040 --> 00:45:43,760
Speaker 2: And now there's even discussion of Cooper Bateman getting reps

857
00:45:43,760 --> 00:45:47,840
Speaker 2: in practice and perhaps he's the answer at quarterback, which

858
00:45:48,080 --> 00:45:51,600
Speaker 2: when you start dipping back to number three tie, it's

859
00:45:51,640 --> 00:45:53,719
Speaker 2: not always the best sign. There's a reason why we

860
00:45:53,760 --> 00:45:56,200
Speaker 2: don't have a Maybe the third strings better than the.

861
00:45:56,120 --> 00:45:58,400
Speaker 1: Starter that only works at Iowa State.

862
00:45:58,760 --> 00:46:01,000
Speaker 2: That does only work at Io State, has not worked

863
00:46:01,000 --> 00:46:07,520
Speaker 2: at Oregon this far thus far, so to me, USC

864
00:46:07,560 --> 00:46:09,840
Speaker 2: has a pretty good defense, if not a good defense,

865
00:46:09,880 --> 00:46:12,680
Speaker 2: I think both of these teams have actually really good defenses.

866
00:46:13,600 --> 00:46:17,399
Speaker 2: Both of these teams turn other teams over but also

867
00:46:17,960 --> 00:46:20,720
Speaker 2: happens to give it away a ton via the forward pass.

868
00:46:22,480 --> 00:46:25,120
Speaker 2: And when Ronald Jones is healthy, they seem to run

869
00:46:25,120 --> 00:46:27,359
Speaker 2: the ball well. They're getting healthier along the offensive line,

870
00:46:27,360 --> 00:46:29,480
Speaker 2: which is a good sign. Although I don't think Steven

871
00:46:29,520 --> 00:46:32,160
Speaker 2: Carr is playing Ronald Jones's backup. I think he's still hurt.

872
00:46:33,200 --> 00:46:36,239
Speaker 2: And if you get usc to passing downs, they dip

873
00:46:36,280 --> 00:46:38,560
Speaker 2: a little bit on offense, they struggle to convert those.

874
00:46:39,440 --> 00:46:43,360
Speaker 2: Utah with and without Tyler Huntley has had a hugely

875
00:46:43,400 --> 00:46:47,520
Speaker 2: efficient offense, especially on the ground, and that's a pretty

876
00:46:47,520 --> 00:46:50,480
Speaker 2: good matchup against US. He's run defense, which in chunks

877
00:46:50,480 --> 00:46:52,120
Speaker 2: of games gives up a little bit too much. We

878
00:46:52,200 --> 00:46:55,279
Speaker 2: saw Jamal Marrow go off. We saw Bryce love We'll

879
00:46:55,280 --> 00:46:59,800
Speaker 2: see what happens with Utah. Utah also has a pretty

880
00:46:59,800 --> 00:47:02,240
Speaker 2: good linebacking corps and they're both.

881
00:47:02,080 --> 00:47:02,840
Speaker 1: Good on the field.

882
00:47:02,840 --> 00:47:07,040
Speaker 2: And also their names are Sunia Tutio Lee and Kavika

883
00:47:07,080 --> 00:47:08,600
Speaker 2: Luafa Tosaga.

884
00:47:08,120 --> 00:47:11,120
Speaker 1: Tie wow remember those things? Aha?

885
00:47:11,360 --> 00:47:17,040
Speaker 2: Okay, Sunia tutio Le, Kavika Luafa Tosaga jesus Okay, I'm

886
00:47:17,080 --> 00:47:19,719
Speaker 2: ready to roll. So uh. I don't think Utah wins

887
00:47:19,719 --> 00:47:23,280
Speaker 2: this game. I think they cover because of their ability

888
00:47:23,280 --> 00:47:26,040
Speaker 2: to flip the field with a deep, talented defense. I

889
00:47:26,040 --> 00:47:27,719
Speaker 2: have twenty eight to twenty trojans.

890
00:47:28,040 --> 00:47:33,160
Speaker 1: Yeah. I keep coming back to Kyle Whittingham saying it's

891
00:47:33,239 --> 00:47:35,600
Speaker 1: still up in the air who's playing quarterback, And that's

892
00:47:35,680 --> 00:47:39,000
Speaker 1: just really disconcerting to me. This close to a big game,

893
00:47:40,120 --> 00:47:43,520
Speaker 1: no doubt Utah will be prepared to play. But I

894
00:47:43,560 --> 00:47:47,720
Speaker 1: look at the line and I say to myself, somebody

895
00:47:47,760 --> 00:47:51,040
Speaker 1: knows something here that just feels like way too much

896
00:47:51,080 --> 00:47:53,520
Speaker 1: in a game where Utah is usually very competitive. So

897
00:47:54,280 --> 00:47:57,480
Speaker 1: I think USC wins. I think it's probably right on

898
00:47:57,520 --> 00:48:00,239
Speaker 1: the number. I'm going to say, USC thirty one to

899
00:48:00,440 --> 00:48:10,479
Speaker 1: seventeen a front door barely cover situation. Wow, okay, fair enough,

900
00:48:10,760 --> 00:48:12,760
Speaker 1: big home win for USC.

901
00:48:13,560 --> 00:48:15,239
Speaker 2: Yeah, big win a couple of years ago when Utah

902
00:48:15,280 --> 00:48:17,200
Speaker 2: had the hype, And of course Sam Darnold and USC

903
00:48:17,280 --> 00:48:18,880
Speaker 2: went to Salt Lake last year and lost.

904
00:48:19,840 --> 00:48:22,440
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Speaker 2: It is nine to eighteen pm Eastern time as we

935
00:50:17,520 --> 00:50:20,440
Speaker 2: record this, I am sick and I cannot wait for

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937
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938
00:50:24,840 --> 00:50:27,359
Speaker 1: Let's leave it at that. Okay, so we've got we've

939
00:50:27,360 --> 00:50:29,439
Speaker 1: got a bunch of other games to run through here,

940
00:50:29,640 --> 00:50:33,480
Speaker 1: and yes, I believe because we had again some scheduling

941
00:50:33,520 --> 00:50:36,359
Speaker 1: conflicts this week. You're sick. My voice is going it's

942
00:50:36,440 --> 00:50:39,120
Speaker 1: later at night, live to tape. Like. We got a

943
00:50:39,160 --> 00:50:41,800
Speaker 1: bunch of stuff going on here that normally we don't

944
00:50:41,840 --> 00:50:44,840
Speaker 1: have to deal with. So you may have even added

945
00:50:44,880 --> 00:50:47,600
Speaker 1: some additional games to what I put on our nitional

946
00:50:47,640 --> 00:50:51,040
Speaker 1: sheet here. Let's go to Friday night, though, let's travel

947
00:50:51,120 --> 00:50:55,600
Speaker 1: back in time. Do Doo Doo Doo ten thirty pm

948
00:50:55,680 --> 00:50:59,719
Speaker 1: Eastern time, Washington State at time of recording, or at

949
00:50:59,800 --> 00:51:04,520
Speaker 1: least that time of producing my Google doc here, I've

950
00:51:04,520 --> 00:51:07,560
Speaker 1: got them listed as about a fourteen point favorite on

951
00:51:07,719 --> 00:51:11,480
Speaker 1: the road at cal Did you know that Wazu is

952
00:51:11,520 --> 00:51:14,840
Speaker 1: now eighth in the nation in the polls. It's crazy

953
00:51:14,960 --> 00:51:17,400
Speaker 1: eighth in the nation. It's and Look, I don't mean

954
00:51:17,440 --> 00:51:21,759
Speaker 1: any disrespect to Washington State because they've absolutely earned it, right, yeah, absolutely,

955
00:51:21,840 --> 00:51:24,239
Speaker 1: But it's just not a team I'm accustomed to seeing

956
00:51:24,280 --> 00:51:26,200
Speaker 1: in the top ten. So when you look out there

957
00:51:26,200 --> 00:51:28,719
Speaker 1: and you say, wow, there, I didn't realize they were

958
00:51:28,719 --> 00:51:31,040
Speaker 1: that high, it's not because I'm trying to disrespect you.

959
00:51:31,080 --> 00:51:33,680
Speaker 1: It's just because it's it's good to see a fresh

960
00:51:34,120 --> 00:51:37,120
Speaker 1: team name in that top ten. So all right, here

961
00:51:37,120 --> 00:51:40,439
Speaker 1: we go, fourteen point road favorite, Dan, who you got?

962
00:51:41,360 --> 00:51:44,280
Speaker 1: I'm taking Wazoo. I think Cal is bad.

963
00:51:45,000 --> 00:51:47,480
Speaker 2: I think Cal started the year against teams now because

964
00:51:47,480 --> 00:51:50,120
Speaker 2: of the wonder of Sudoku. We know North Carolina is

965
00:51:50,120 --> 00:51:51,799
Speaker 2: not that good. We know Ole Miss is not that good.

966
00:51:51,840 --> 00:51:53,759
Speaker 2: And good for Cal for beating teams that aren't that good.

967
00:51:53,800 --> 00:51:57,319
Speaker 2: But I think they themselves are disappointing, and Wazoo is

968
00:51:57,360 --> 00:52:00,319
Speaker 2: perfectly built to roll them. So I think Wazoo wins

969
00:52:00,320 --> 00:52:00,800
Speaker 2: by twenty.

970
00:52:01,200 --> 00:52:05,120
Speaker 1: Wazoo wins by twenty, and let's get nuts block of

971
00:52:05,160 --> 00:52:13,720
Speaker 1: the week in normal circumstances, And by normal I mean past,

972
00:52:14,239 --> 00:52:17,239
Speaker 1: and by past I mean like five years ago. This

973
00:52:17,360 --> 00:52:19,120
Speaker 1: might have been the kind of game that goes forty

974
00:52:19,160 --> 00:52:22,399
Speaker 1: five to forty two. But Washington State has a good

975
00:52:22,480 --> 00:52:27,480
Speaker 1: opportunistic defense and Cal just happens to have a potentially

976
00:52:27,520 --> 00:52:31,759
Speaker 1: potent offense. But they're young, and Washington State focuses on

977
00:52:32,000 --> 00:52:35,399
Speaker 1: the precise thing that could put Cal in a world

978
00:52:35,440 --> 00:52:37,520
Speaker 1: of hurt, and that's turnovers. Right.

979
00:52:37,920 --> 00:52:40,399
Speaker 2: Wasn't this the matchup like three or four years ago?

980
00:52:40,400 --> 00:52:43,080
Speaker 2: I ended up like seventy to sixty eight. Yep, sixty

981
00:52:43,120 --> 00:52:44,359
Speaker 2: to fifty eight or something like that.

982
00:52:44,400 --> 00:52:47,919
Speaker 1: What I'm talking about? Sure, I like Washington State going

983
00:52:47,920 --> 00:52:49,120
Speaker 1: away here give me them.

984
00:52:49,000 --> 00:52:51,040
Speaker 2: Earlier that night. By the way, I have a periphery

985
00:52:51,080 --> 00:52:55,279
Speaker 2: for you, ty Clemson. This is Friday night, Clemson. I

986
00:52:55,320 --> 00:53:00,040
Speaker 2: think it's minus twenty two and a half h Syracuse. Yeah, so,

987
00:53:00,400 --> 00:53:05,360
Speaker 2: I mean Clemson wins here. But lest we forget Syracuse

988
00:53:05,400 --> 00:53:08,680
Speaker 2: and the Carrier Dome over an acc divisional champ last year,

989
00:53:08,840 --> 00:53:13,520
Speaker 2: yes attack correct, about a year to the day. It

990
00:53:13,560 --> 00:53:17,520
Speaker 2: was Week seven last year where that happened the Carrier Dome.

991
00:53:17,640 --> 00:53:19,280
Speaker 2: There's always weirdness, Tylus.

992
00:53:19,280 --> 00:53:20,240
Speaker 1: You struggled there.

993
00:53:20,400 --> 00:53:22,360
Speaker 2: If you want to talk about the ghost of Jerome

994
00:53:22,400 --> 00:53:24,520
Speaker 2: Smith and the ghost of I believe it was Prince

995
00:53:24,560 --> 00:53:28,720
Speaker 2: Tyson Gully against Louisville in twenty twelve. I'm just saying

996
00:53:29,160 --> 00:53:32,480
Speaker 2: Carrier dome periphery, and Kelly Bryant maybe out with a

997
00:53:32,480 --> 00:53:33,240
Speaker 2: tweaked ankle.

998
00:53:33,840 --> 00:53:37,319
Speaker 1: You never know, Ty, you just never know. What is

999
00:53:38,400 --> 00:53:42,120
Speaker 1: Syracuse's record this year, three and three? That sounds right,

1000
00:53:42,560 --> 00:53:46,919
Speaker 1: something like that. They are decidedly mediocre team on both

1001
00:53:47,560 --> 00:53:51,160
Speaker 1: football Yeah, I mean their offense has been every bit

1002
00:53:51,200 --> 00:53:56,040
Speaker 1: as average as their defense. They've really lacked efficiency on

1003
00:53:56,120 --> 00:53:59,800
Speaker 1: offense and that's not something I expected from Dino Baber's

1004
00:53:59,840 --> 00:54:02,640
Speaker 1: in year two. Typically they get a lot better, a

1005
00:54:02,640 --> 00:54:04,560
Speaker 1: lot sooner, said Ti.

1006
00:54:05,000 --> 00:54:07,400
Speaker 2: If anybody wants to come on this show and insist

1007
00:54:07,440 --> 00:54:10,880
Speaker 2: that they're not better than Central Michigan, I where to God.

1008
00:54:12,360 --> 00:54:17,239
Speaker 1: I'm gonna go Clemson to win here, winning cover on

1009
00:54:17,320 --> 00:54:18,319
Speaker 1: the road, and carry your dome.

1010
00:54:19,120 --> 00:54:24,760
Speaker 2: South Carolina Tennessee.

1011
00:54:22,360 --> 00:54:27,000
Speaker 1: Tennessee Since Saturday at noon. South Carolina and Tennessee Tennessee's

1012
00:54:27,040 --> 00:54:30,160
Speaker 1: a two and a half three point home favorite. They

1013
00:54:30,160 --> 00:54:33,360
Speaker 1: are also coming off a bye. I am still not

1014
00:54:33,480 --> 00:54:36,000
Speaker 1: sold on South Carolina, though, I do think this is

1015
00:54:36,040 --> 00:54:40,080
Speaker 1: going to be a close football game, because, as we've

1016
00:54:40,120 --> 00:54:44,320
Speaker 1: talked about in previous episodes, South Carolina has really taken

1017
00:54:44,360 --> 00:54:46,560
Speaker 1: on the identity of Will mush Champ and they got

1018
00:54:46,560 --> 00:54:49,040
Speaker 1: a good defense. So I'm gonna say Tennessee wins this

1019
00:54:49,120 --> 00:54:55,799
Speaker 1: game relatively low scoring. Let's go twenty three to sixteen

1020
00:54:56,239 --> 00:54:58,080
Speaker 1: at home. I disagree.

1021
00:54:59,360 --> 00:55:01,560
Speaker 2: You are giving me an opportunity to pick against a

1022
00:55:01,600 --> 00:55:05,520
Speaker 2: team in crisis collapsing, that is, coming off of a

1023
00:55:05,600 --> 00:55:09,560
Speaker 2: game that they scored zero points at home. And I

1024
00:55:09,600 --> 00:55:11,560
Speaker 2: think South Carolina wins this game. I think they win

1025
00:55:11,680 --> 00:55:13,240
Speaker 2: this game by ten to thirteen points.

1026
00:55:13,400 --> 00:55:20,839
Speaker 1: Pick it up, tie B. Look of the week you

1027
00:55:20,880 --> 00:55:25,160
Speaker 1: are now, I'm taking a road team in Washington State.

1028
00:55:26,040 --> 00:55:30,040
Speaker 1: That's a much heftier favorite than you know, almost any

1029
00:55:30,080 --> 00:55:34,399
Speaker 1: of the teams we're talking about here this evening. Yeah,

1030
00:55:34,520 --> 00:55:39,279
Speaker 1: you are taking a road team in Niland Stadium. I am.

1031
00:55:40,360 --> 00:55:42,480
Speaker 1: That's not the easiest place to be a road favorite

1032
00:55:42,520 --> 00:55:43,080
Speaker 1: or a road dog.

1033
00:55:43,120 --> 00:55:47,120
Speaker 2: Excuse me, true, But you know what I've seen this,

1034
00:55:47,160 --> 00:55:53,640
Speaker 2: yere ty. I've seen UMass hang with Tennessee. Okay, in

1035
00:55:53,719 --> 00:55:56,560
Speaker 2: Niland Stadium with Chris Berman on the sideline.

1036
00:55:56,719 --> 00:56:01,120
Speaker 1: I'm good, all right, Okay. Also, at noon on Saturday,

1037
00:56:01,160 --> 00:56:06,879
Speaker 1: Michigan minus seven on the road at Indiana. I am

1038
00:56:06,920 --> 00:56:10,920
Speaker 1: gonna take Michigan to winning cover because I like a

1039
00:56:11,040 --> 00:56:13,520
Speaker 1: heavy dose of Tie Isaac, and I think that could

1040
00:56:13,560 --> 00:56:17,239
Speaker 1: be a problem for Indiana. I'm gonna take Michigan as well. Tie.

1041
00:56:17,239 --> 00:56:19,360
Speaker 2: I think we're undervaluing Michigan a little bit. And I

1042
00:56:19,480 --> 00:56:23,640
Speaker 2: checked Saturday is going to be sunny and dry in Bloomington. Yes,

1043
00:56:24,360 --> 00:56:27,480
Speaker 2: we are going Michigan. And now my wife is home

1044
00:56:27,520 --> 00:56:30,319
Speaker 2: and she's dancing in the doorway of this room. She's

1045
00:56:30,360 --> 00:56:31,920
Speaker 2: the one who got me sick TI, so I do

1046
00:56:32,000 --> 00:56:34,480
Speaker 2: not appreciate it. Yeah, I think Michigan wins by a

1047
00:56:34,480 --> 00:56:37,120
Speaker 2: couple touchdowns. Indiana can't stop the run. That's all I looked.

1048
00:56:36,920 --> 00:56:40,920
Speaker 1: Up Saturday at high noon. We've also got Florida State

1049
00:56:41,880 --> 00:56:46,800
Speaker 1: minus seven on the road at Duke. I'm gonna go

1050
00:56:46,840 --> 00:56:49,200
Speaker 1: ahead and name Duke my home dog of the week,

1051
00:56:52,040 --> 00:57:01,120
Speaker 1: the Yuckers home dog of the week that last dropout.

1052
00:57:01,200 --> 00:57:04,720
Speaker 1: So Florida State looked better on defense a little last

1053
00:57:04,760 --> 00:57:08,279
Speaker 1: week than they had in previous weeks. I'll give him that,

1054
00:57:09,640 --> 00:57:14,520
Speaker 1: But I am going Duke here because while Florida State

1055
00:57:14,640 --> 00:57:18,480
Speaker 1: might not be in crisis per se, there are just

1056
00:57:18,520 --> 00:57:21,439
Speaker 1: too many things on offense that I don't feel good about.

1057
00:57:21,480 --> 00:57:24,240
Speaker 1: I like cam Akers, I like where he's headed. Sure,

1058
00:57:24,600 --> 00:57:29,680
Speaker 1: I'm still not sold on James Blackman and Duke is Plucky.

1059
00:57:30,400 --> 00:57:33,360
Speaker 1: Duke and Daniel Jones, they just they find ways to

1060
00:57:33,400 --> 00:57:36,720
Speaker 1: be competitive in some of these football games. They're at home.

1061
00:57:36,800 --> 00:57:40,840
Speaker 1: Florida State's a week after that Miami contest, and I

1062
00:57:40,920 --> 00:57:43,760
Speaker 1: just feel like generally they're pretty awful right now. So

1063
00:57:43,840 --> 00:57:46,880
Speaker 1: I'm gonna say Duke cover the point spread at a

1064
00:57:46,920 --> 00:57:50,560
Speaker 1: minimum at home. Wouldn't be surprised to see an outright w.

1065
00:57:51,800 --> 00:57:54,360
Speaker 2: So you remember why I chose and why I picked

1066
00:57:54,480 --> 00:57:56,640
Speaker 2: UCLA over Colorado a couple weeks ago.

1067
00:57:56,960 --> 00:57:59,280
Speaker 1: Because sooner or later, they just they just got to

1068
00:57:59,280 --> 00:58:00,720
Speaker 1: win one of these We got to win one of

1069
00:58:00,760 --> 00:58:03,520
Speaker 1: them right one of these weeks. Florida State has to

1070
00:58:03,520 --> 00:58:06,200
Speaker 1: look pretty good. They just have to.

1071
00:58:06,400 --> 00:58:08,600
Speaker 2: I like Duke's defense, I still think they'll give up

1072
00:58:08,640 --> 00:58:11,320
Speaker 2: too many big plays. I don't fully love Duke's offense.

1073
00:58:12,280 --> 00:58:14,240
Speaker 2: I think Florida State wins this game comfortably. I think

1074
00:58:14,240 --> 00:58:17,240
Speaker 2: they win by fourteen. I'm gonna say thirty four to

1075
00:58:17,240 --> 00:58:18,160
Speaker 2: twenty Florida State.

1076
00:58:19,040 --> 00:58:22,120
Speaker 1: Saturday at three point thirty. We've got Virginia a four

1077
00:58:22,160 --> 00:58:26,480
Speaker 1: point road favorite at unc DAN. Yes, the Who's by

1078
00:58:26,480 --> 00:58:29,840
Speaker 1: the way a cool four and one while no one

1079
00:58:29,880 --> 00:58:34,200
Speaker 1: was paying attention. Yeah, actually, what beat Duke a week ago?

1080
00:58:34,640 --> 00:58:39,000
Speaker 1: They did and unc I had the distinct pleasure of

1081
00:58:39,040 --> 00:58:42,720
Speaker 1: seeing them. They're really pretty terrible this year, aren't they.

1082
00:58:42,960 --> 00:58:47,080
Speaker 2: They're super wounded and not at all good at tackle football.

1083
00:58:47,400 --> 00:58:51,120
Speaker 1: Give me Virginia to win and cover on the road

1084
00:58:51,160 --> 00:58:52,160
Speaker 1: at North Carolina.

1085
00:58:52,520 --> 00:58:55,000
Speaker 2: Yeah, I think Virginia is at least a touchdown better.

1086
00:58:55,120 --> 00:58:57,800
Speaker 2: There's I have another game in this window. Oh please,

1087
00:58:57,800 --> 00:59:00,320
Speaker 2: I think it's in the noon window. It's going to

1088
00:59:00,360 --> 00:59:07,000
Speaker 2: be kind of interesting. Produce traveling to Wisconsin. Oh, Wisconsin's

1089
00:59:07,240 --> 00:59:09,880
Speaker 2: about sixteen and a half seventeen point favorite. Real quick,

1090
00:59:10,760 --> 00:59:12,920
Speaker 2: if you would if you would want Purdue to do

1091
00:59:13,040 --> 00:59:15,200
Speaker 2: one thing really well in this game, what would it

1092
00:59:15,240 --> 00:59:17,280
Speaker 2: be like? If not in just not in this game.

1093
00:59:17,280 --> 00:59:20,040
Speaker 2: But if Purdue does one thing really well to compete

1094
00:59:20,080 --> 00:59:22,360
Speaker 2: in this game, what would you want that to be?

1095
00:59:23,440 --> 00:59:27,280
Speaker 1: I would want them to be able to contain the

1096
00:59:27,320 --> 00:59:30,840
Speaker 1: Wisconsin rushing attack. Ty, have I got great news for you? Yes?

1097
00:59:30,880 --> 00:59:34,680
Speaker 2: Pleaseuce good against the run? Okay, Pdue, it's totally good

1098
00:59:34,680 --> 00:59:36,920
Speaker 2: against the run. And they're tested. They've played Louisville, they've

1099
00:59:36,920 --> 00:59:40,760
Speaker 2: played Michigan. I think Purdue does a good enough job.

1100
00:59:40,800 --> 00:59:42,280
Speaker 2: I think they cover the spread in this game. I

1101
00:59:42,320 --> 00:59:44,120
Speaker 2: don't think they went out right, but I think we're

1102
00:59:44,200 --> 00:59:45,640
Speaker 2: undervaluing Purdue a little bit.

1103
00:59:45,840 --> 00:59:47,760
Speaker 1: I mean to take the Boilers to cover. They were

1104
00:59:47,800 --> 00:59:49,880
Speaker 1: my lock of the week a week ago. I'm on

1105
00:59:49,960 --> 00:59:58,000
Speaker 1: board with you. Okay, gosh, I don't know if I could.

1106
00:59:58,080 --> 01:00:00,800
Speaker 1: I mean, know, what, what the hell it's I'm tired,

1107
01:00:00,840 --> 01:00:04,040
Speaker 1: you're six. Well, let's just do Let's just do Purdue

1108
01:00:04,080 --> 01:00:07,880
Speaker 1: plus the points here. Yes, next game, the final game

1109
01:00:07,880 --> 01:00:10,520
Speaker 1: that I have, probably the final game of the evening

1110
01:00:10,520 --> 01:00:15,400
Speaker 1: on Saturday. And I really only bring this one up because, well, A,

1111
01:00:15,560 --> 01:00:19,520
Speaker 1: it's an interesting matchup, but b as an Oregon fan,

1112
01:00:19,560 --> 01:00:23,680
Speaker 1: you're somewhat obligated to pay attention to this game. Yeah,

1113
01:00:23,960 --> 01:00:26,840
Speaker 1: at eleven pm Eastern time? Are you stay You said

1114
01:00:26,880 --> 01:00:28,320
Speaker 1: at the top of the show, you're not staying up

1115
01:00:28,360 --> 01:00:29,160
Speaker 1: to watch this game.

1116
01:00:29,680 --> 01:00:32,880
Speaker 2: Well, I normally go to sleep around I mean, I

1117
01:00:33,160 --> 01:00:35,280
Speaker 2: stayed up for the Oregon Arizona State game and I

1118
01:00:35,320 --> 01:00:36,760
Speaker 2: regretted every second of it.

1119
01:00:37,520 --> 01:00:39,760
Speaker 1: So I think I'm just gonna go to sleep at halftime.

1120
01:00:39,800 --> 01:00:40,360
Speaker 1: I generally go to.

1121
01:00:40,320 --> 01:00:42,960
Speaker 2: Sleep around twelve thirty and I'll watch the late games.

1122
01:00:43,000 --> 01:00:45,800
Speaker 2: The following morning, either before or after we record our

1123
01:00:45,840 --> 01:00:50,040
Speaker 2: Sunday show, so I could not see myself staying awake

1124
01:00:50,120 --> 01:00:51,959
Speaker 2: past midnight for an eleven pm kick.

1125
01:00:52,480 --> 01:00:57,920
Speaker 1: There's your answer. The game is Oregon at Stanford. Stanford

1126
01:00:57,960 --> 01:01:01,320
Speaker 1: is a ten and a half point home face. That

1127
01:01:01,360 --> 01:01:03,720
Speaker 1: feels like a lot to me. But I am going

1128
01:01:03,800 --> 01:01:06,160
Speaker 1: to still go with Stanford because Oregon is just so

1129
01:01:06,240 --> 01:01:06,880
Speaker 1: damn beat up.

1130
01:01:08,280 --> 01:01:10,720
Speaker 2: Oregon is super beat up on offense. They get Dylan

1131
01:01:10,760 --> 01:01:14,360
Speaker 2: Mitchell and Charles Nelson back, it seems I think they're practicing.

1132
01:01:14,440 --> 01:01:16,720
Speaker 2: So that's a good sign for whoever starts at quarterback,

1133
01:01:17,080 --> 01:01:19,960
Speaker 2: whether it's Braxton Burmeis or the true freshman who struggled

1134
01:01:20,000 --> 01:01:23,120
Speaker 2: a lot last week against Wazoo or Taylor Ally who

1135
01:01:23,200 --> 01:01:26,600
Speaker 2: is I don't think all that much better. But the

1136
01:01:26,600 --> 01:01:28,760
Speaker 2: good news is I think it's a decent enough matchup

1137
01:01:28,760 --> 01:01:31,880
Speaker 2: for Oregon. They play the run really well. Oregon stops

1138
01:01:31,920 --> 01:01:35,040
Speaker 2: the run and has against maybe lesser teams. And Stanford

1139
01:01:35,080 --> 01:01:36,920
Speaker 2: has the best home run hitter in college football and

1140
01:01:36,960 --> 01:01:40,040
Speaker 2: Bryce Love and I imagine he'll get his. But I

1141
01:01:40,120 --> 01:01:43,000
Speaker 2: think Oregon it's a nice matchup against I think Keller

1142
01:01:43,080 --> 01:01:46,880
Speaker 2: Chris is starting this game. Stanford can't throw the ball

1143
01:01:47,200 --> 01:01:49,800
Speaker 2: and they it's crazy ty. When you have Bryce love

1144
01:01:49,840 --> 01:01:53,280
Speaker 2: and you can't take advantage of play action, that's madness

1145
01:01:53,320 --> 01:01:55,320
Speaker 2: to me. I think Oregon hangs around. I don't think

1146
01:01:55,360 --> 01:01:58,240
Speaker 2: they win this game. I'm going to take Stanford to win,

1147
01:01:58,400 --> 01:02:00,480
Speaker 2: but Oregon to cover that what ten and a half

1148
01:02:00,520 --> 01:02:01,320
Speaker 2: points in half?

1149
01:02:01,440 --> 01:02:02,920
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's a lot of points.

1150
01:02:03,200 --> 01:02:06,360
Speaker 2: So I'm gonna say thirty one to twenty four Stanford

1151
01:02:07,080 --> 01:02:07,960
Speaker 2: Oregon covers.

1152
01:02:08,120 --> 01:02:10,360
Speaker 1: We disagree. Do you have any other games that you

1153
01:02:10,400 --> 01:02:10,600
Speaker 1: like to do?

1154
01:02:10,880 --> 01:02:13,160
Speaker 2: I do real quick, just in terms of pure entertainment

1155
01:02:13,160 --> 01:02:16,240
Speaker 2: and fun TV. Navy is playing Memphis, okay, and Navy

1156
01:02:16,280 --> 01:02:17,960
Speaker 2: hasn't lost a game yet. Memphis is three and a

1157
01:02:17,960 --> 01:02:20,840
Speaker 2: half point favorites. Navy is better playing the past than

1158
01:02:20,880 --> 01:02:23,480
Speaker 2: Memphis is against the run, so I think the run travels.

1159
01:02:23,520 --> 01:02:27,320
Speaker 2: I'm gonna take Navy. Yeah, I'm going Navy there. Ohio State,

1160
01:02:27,320 --> 01:02:29,360
Speaker 2: I think it's gonna blow the doors off of Nebraska

1161
01:02:29,400 --> 01:02:33,800
Speaker 2: twenty four point favorites. On in Lincoln, I've got my

1162
01:02:33,920 --> 01:02:35,840
Speaker 2: Yako's home dog type. You want to play the.

1163
01:02:35,800 --> 01:02:41,280
Speaker 1: Sound yakos home.

1164
01:02:43,480 --> 01:02:45,840
Speaker 2: Michigan State in the letdown spot, traveling to row the

1165
01:02:45,840 --> 01:02:50,000
Speaker 2: boat against Minnesota Michigan State four point favorites in Minneapolis.

1166
01:02:50,080 --> 01:02:52,800
Speaker 2: I'm gonna take the Gophers there. How about that sky.

1167
01:02:52,680 --> 01:02:56,600
Speaker 1: You mo off four point favorites? Huh yep Ooh, I

1168
01:02:56,640 --> 01:02:58,640
Speaker 1: don't know about that one. Mm hmm.

1169
01:02:58,840 --> 01:03:03,480
Speaker 2: It's a little bit. It's entice, Okay. Arizona is a

1170
01:03:03,520 --> 01:03:06,720
Speaker 2: point dog at home. Presumably Khalil Tate. We'll start after

1171
01:03:06,800 --> 01:03:10,400
Speaker 2: rushing for three hundred and twenty seven yards so he

1172
01:03:10,440 --> 01:03:13,360
Speaker 2: gets to run through UCLA's defense. I think Arizona in

1173
01:03:13,400 --> 01:03:16,600
Speaker 2: a shootout might be good enough to win that game.

1174
01:03:17,440 --> 01:03:19,600
Speaker 1: Okay, I think they might be. We'll see.

1175
01:03:20,040 --> 01:03:24,400
Speaker 2: I think Washington comfortably beats Arizona State and Ty.

1176
01:03:24,600 --> 01:03:25,520
Speaker 1: If you would just do me.

1177
01:03:25,480 --> 01:03:29,160
Speaker 2: A favor, yes please, I don't ask for much. Will

1178
01:03:29,200 --> 01:03:36,160
Speaker 2: you drop that big stanky, slobbering lubric hate.

1179
01:03:37,720 --> 01:03:40,840
Speaker 1: Here's a family show, Dan, Sorry, I apologize, I apologize.

1180
01:03:40,960 --> 01:03:42,520
Speaker 1: Is a real family show here? All right? What do

1181
01:03:42,560 --> 01:03:45,439
Speaker 1: we got? Pat league? Patty? Pat League? Pat League? Drum

1182
01:03:45,560 --> 01:03:45,880
Speaker 1: and five?

1183
01:03:46,000 --> 01:03:48,880
Speaker 2: Lafayette is two and four traveling to Harvard. Let me

1184
01:03:48,880 --> 01:03:51,480
Speaker 2: ask you, this is this a must win spot for Lafayette.

1185
01:03:51,760 --> 01:03:53,520
Speaker 1: I feel like they all are with the way they've

1186
01:03:53,520 --> 01:03:56,840
Speaker 1: started off, especially on defense. I am gonna go big red.

1187
01:03:56,880 --> 01:03:59,600
Speaker 1: Here's a big red. Is that what they are?

1188
01:04:00,160 --> 01:04:02,080
Speaker 2: I think Harvard's the Crimson, But I okay.

1189
01:04:01,960 --> 01:04:04,920
Speaker 1: Let's go. Let's go big, darker red in the Crimson.

1190
01:04:04,960 --> 01:04:07,920
Speaker 1: Here Harvard to upend Lafayette.

1191
01:04:08,360 --> 01:04:11,680
Speaker 2: Okay, they'll be celebrating that at JP licks. By the way,

1192
01:04:11,920 --> 01:04:14,760
Speaker 2: how many Patriot League teams have winning records? That's right,

1193
01:04:15,000 --> 01:04:19,240
Speaker 2: I don't see any This week nights Fordham one and

1194
01:04:19,280 --> 01:04:22,640
Speaker 2: five traveling to Colgate And let me ask you this tie.

1195
01:04:22,800 --> 01:04:26,000
Speaker 2: Who is this a bigger game for the Gators or

1196
01:04:26,680 --> 01:04:27,400
Speaker 2: the Rams?

1197
01:04:27,880 --> 01:04:30,800
Speaker 1: Probably the Rams. This could be their first opportunity in

1198
01:04:30,840 --> 01:04:33,960
Speaker 1: forever to really get one on Fordham because Fordham's been

1199
01:04:34,000 --> 01:04:35,560
Speaker 1: at the top of the pat League for the last

1200
01:04:35,560 --> 01:04:38,280
Speaker 1: couple of seasons. Now, I think I go Gators here,

1201
01:04:38,320 --> 01:04:42,400
Speaker 1: a revenge spot for years past. YEP been playing well

1202
01:04:42,440 --> 01:04:44,280
Speaker 1: this season, though I believe lost a wee could go

1203
01:04:44,320 --> 01:04:46,760
Speaker 1: to Lehi, So give me the Gators here. I disagree.

1204
01:04:46,800 --> 01:04:49,000
Speaker 1: I'm riuning with New York's one true team. Go Rams.

1205
01:04:49,080 --> 01:04:51,760
Speaker 2: Georgetown one and four traveling to Lehigh one and five.

1206
01:04:51,840 --> 01:04:54,080
Speaker 2: Let me ask you this tie. Is this a must

1207
01:04:54,120 --> 01:04:55,640
Speaker 2: win spot for Lehigh?

1208
01:04:55,800 --> 01:04:58,959
Speaker 1: Well? They won last week against Colgate. Yes they did,

1209
01:04:59,440 --> 01:05:01,400
Speaker 1: and I feel like if they want to get their

1210
01:05:01,400 --> 01:05:03,840
Speaker 1: season back on track, it's really a must win game

1211
01:05:03,880 --> 01:05:07,160
Speaker 1: for both these teams. Two combined wins, two and nine

1212
01:05:07,240 --> 01:05:10,120
Speaker 1: combined record. Here, Dan just not a great year in

1213
01:05:10,160 --> 01:05:12,240
Speaker 1: the patch in the Patriot League. So let's go Lee High.

1214
01:05:12,360 --> 01:05:15,840
Speaker 1: Gotta sick with my with my wife's one true alma

1215
01:05:15,880 --> 01:05:17,720
Speaker 1: mater here. Give me the Mountahawks.

1216
01:05:18,480 --> 01:05:20,760
Speaker 2: Holy Cross two and four at Yale three and one

1217
01:05:20,920 --> 01:05:23,240
Speaker 2: hosting the Cross Sators. Let me ask you this tie.

1218
01:05:23,440 --> 01:05:25,440
Speaker 2: Is this a must win game for Holy Cross?

1219
01:05:26,000 --> 01:05:28,520
Speaker 1: Probably not. I don't think they ever considered that they

1220
01:05:28,560 --> 01:05:31,160
Speaker 1: would win this game against the Yalees. Yale wins, Okay,

1221
01:05:31,240 --> 01:05:33,120
Speaker 1: Yale wins, Yeah, they go. They moved to four and

1222
01:05:33,200 --> 01:05:33,600
Speaker 1: one here?

1223
01:05:34,080 --> 01:05:36,480
Speaker 2: Yeah, I think Yale win's comfortably here and this is

1224
01:05:36,480 --> 01:05:39,440
Speaker 2: a matchup tie. What do we do with the records

1225
01:05:39,440 --> 01:05:40,040
Speaker 2: and rivalry?

1226
01:05:40,080 --> 01:05:41,560
Speaker 1: Time? You three, you always throw them out.

1227
01:05:42,120 --> 01:05:45,160
Speaker 2: We got Nell on Nell and we're not talking Jody

1228
01:05:45,240 --> 01:05:50,960
Speaker 2: Foster tie. We're talking buck and Core. Has Bucknell at

1229
01:05:50,960 --> 01:05:53,000
Speaker 2: all changed your mind because they're at two and three

1230
01:05:53,560 --> 01:05:55,840
Speaker 2: going against the actual Big Red and Cornell?

1231
01:05:56,520 --> 01:06:01,000
Speaker 1: Hmm? What are their records again? Two and three?

1232
01:06:01,080 --> 01:06:05,000
Speaker 2: Bucknell one and three, Cornell, I'm gonna go wait, hold on,

1233
01:06:05,080 --> 01:06:08,640
Speaker 2: you ready to tie? Yeah, it's Nell Classico, thank you.

1234
01:06:08,720 --> 01:06:10,800
Speaker 1: I'm gonna go. I gotta go with Cornell. I never

1235
01:06:10,800 --> 01:06:11,360
Speaker 1: go Buck now.

1236
01:06:12,000 --> 01:06:15,840
Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm gonna go with Cornell as well. That's your

1237
01:06:16,080 --> 01:06:17,240
Speaker 2: pat League action, ty.

1238
01:06:17,480 --> 01:06:20,439
Speaker 1: I have a funny story to tell about the Patriot League.

1239
01:06:20,520 --> 01:06:23,400
Speaker 1: So you know we've talked about it on this show

1240
01:06:24,520 --> 01:06:27,000
Speaker 1: countless times now. The Patriot League Lightning Round is one

1241
01:06:27,040 --> 01:06:29,880
Speaker 1: of our most favorite things to do here at the

1242
01:06:29,960 --> 01:06:31,919
Speaker 1: end of every episode. We've had a lot of fun

1243
01:06:31,920 --> 01:06:36,800
Speaker 1: with it. But we'd be lying if we said we

1244
01:06:36,880 --> 01:06:40,680
Speaker 1: put too much energy into picking who we think is

1245
01:06:40,760 --> 01:06:43,520
Speaker 1: gonna win these games. I've got charts, Tye, I got boards.

1246
01:06:43,640 --> 01:06:45,400
Speaker 1: I know you do. But I'm just I'm speaking from

1247
01:06:45,440 --> 01:06:49,320
Speaker 1: the heart over here. A large part of my prognostication

1248
01:06:49,400 --> 01:06:52,200
Speaker 1: in the Patriot League is really flipping a coin or

1249
01:06:52,280 --> 01:06:55,720
Speaker 1: just gut feel, just going with that gut. So got

1250
01:06:55,720 --> 01:06:59,000
Speaker 1: into a conversation with the gentleman who happened to be

1251
01:06:59,000 --> 01:07:05,000
Speaker 1: a lehile lum and only follows lives abroad, only follows

1252
01:07:05,000 --> 01:07:08,320
Speaker 1: the football team in the Patriot League from Afar at

1253
01:07:08,360 --> 01:07:10,320
Speaker 1: a distance. When he comes to the States. He has

1254
01:07:10,320 --> 01:07:12,320
Speaker 1: an opportunity to come of check in and see how

1255
01:07:12,320 --> 01:07:15,640
Speaker 1: things are going. But it's just it's not really in

1256
01:07:15,760 --> 01:07:19,600
Speaker 1: his line of sight, being elsewhere, and you know, once

1257
01:07:19,720 --> 01:07:21,800
Speaker 1: is all the manter to do well, but doesn't pay

1258
01:07:21,840 --> 01:07:24,600
Speaker 1: that close attention to it. So we got to talking

1259
01:07:24,600 --> 01:07:28,840
Speaker 1: about Lehigh football Patriot League stuff, and he said, well,

1260
01:07:28,880 --> 01:07:30,840
Speaker 1: do you know how's Lehigh doing this year? I said, aw,

1261
01:07:30,880 --> 01:07:34,640
Speaker 1: I've just not been a great year so far this year.

1262
01:07:35,840 --> 01:07:41,040
Speaker 1: And I started rattling off stats and apparently at some

1263
01:07:41,160 --> 01:07:45,560
Speaker 1: point I have absorbed statistics from the Patriot League just

1264
01:07:45,600 --> 01:07:47,920
Speaker 1: in passing as we try to figure out, you know,

1265
01:07:47,960 --> 01:07:51,040
Speaker 1: what games were we talking about and why does everyone

1266
01:07:51,080 --> 01:07:53,680
Speaker 1: have a losing record? And I got to a point

1267
01:07:53,720 --> 01:07:56,080
Speaker 1: I got deep into a conversation where I was talking

1268
01:07:56,080 --> 01:07:59,400
Speaker 1: about how many points Lafayette had given up through its

1269
01:07:59,440 --> 01:08:03,720
Speaker 1: first three Patriot League or first three games this season,

1270
01:08:04,440 --> 01:08:06,760
Speaker 1: when I realized that the gentleman's eyes were glazing over.

1271
01:08:06,880 --> 01:08:09,720
Speaker 1: So perhaps some of our Patriot League knowledge is actually

1272
01:08:10,840 --> 01:08:13,160
Speaker 1: starting to sync into a point where we know a

1273
01:08:13,200 --> 01:08:15,960
Speaker 1: little bit more about than we think, And to the

1274
01:08:15,960 --> 01:08:19,160
Speaker 1: point where this gentleman just sort of walked away from

1275
01:08:19,240 --> 01:08:21,640
Speaker 1: me midstream. As I was talking about.

1276
01:08:21,560 --> 01:08:23,360
Speaker 2: I thought, I thought the kicker of the story was

1277
01:08:23,439 --> 01:08:26,559
Speaker 2: he was going to be a descendant of ASA Packer,

1278
01:08:26,680 --> 01:08:27,200
Speaker 2: the founder.

1279
01:08:27,280 --> 01:08:28,559
Speaker 1: No no, no, no, no no no no no no no no

1280
01:08:28,560 --> 01:08:31,160
Speaker 1: no no, no, no, no no. Have you heard that name before?

1281
01:08:31,200 --> 01:08:33,520
Speaker 1: So I have, Yes, I have, of course, American.

1282
01:08:33,120 --> 01:08:36,280
Speaker 2: Business and pioneer of the railroad constructing business.

1283
01:08:36,320 --> 01:08:38,759
Speaker 1: I got married on Lehigh's campus. Dan, yes, of course,

1284
01:08:39,080 --> 01:08:43,000
Speaker 1: so you know you're ASA Packer fact of course. Okay.

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Speaker 1: My point here is that the Patriot League's fun and

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Speaker 1: all that, but you just got to watch how much

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Speaker 1: Patriot League let out into the world. Otherwise people are

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Speaker 1: just going to wander away from you. Sweet just blow

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Speaker 1: off coo conversations left and right. Okay, thank you to

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Speaker 1: everyone for two tuning in. As we said at the top,

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Speaker 1: this was a bit of an extenuating circumstance for Dan

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Speaker 1: and I recording a little bit later, lower energy than usual.

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Speaker 1: You're sicker, I'm more tired, But I think we pulled

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Speaker 1: it off. This is a live to tape show and

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Speaker 1: I'm not going to edit anything out. Great, so if

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Speaker 1: we made any goofs tweet us let us know. But

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Speaker 1: quite frankly, we're just glad we were able to pull

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Speaker 1: the show off here for week seven. Do give us

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Speaker 1: a call at four to oh eight Verbal one as

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Speaker 1: the games are going on. Give us a piece of

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Speaker 1: and ready to hear what you have to say. We're

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Speaker 1: also on Facebook, on Twitter, on Instagram, and anywhere podcasts

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Speaker 1: on Spotify, Google Play, or through any of your podcast aggregators.

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Speaker 1: You can find it any which way. Please do listen,

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Speaker 1: Please do subscribe, Please to tell your friends and if

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Speaker 1: you like what we do, every little rating does help

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Speaker 1: us out here. We've had a bunch of them come in.

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Speaker 1: We're very honored to be your college football podcast of choice,

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Speaker 1: or at least one of the college football podcasts that

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Speaker 1: you have on your devisive choice. And certainly for all

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Speaker 1: those ratings and five star reviews we've gotten, it's all

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Speaker 1: been very humbling We're excited to be with you week

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Speaker 1: in and week out.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, and send us a note oliverbal at gmail dot com.

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Speaker 2: We always like getting letters.

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Speaker 1: Absolutely, all right, Dan, you'll go get some honey and

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Speaker 1: rest and whatever it takes to get you back in

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Speaker 1: line for Sunday. Okay, Yes, for that guy over there,

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Speaker 1: my good friend Dan Rubenstein, for myself, Tie hill Ran,

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Speaker 1: thanks for hanging with us. We'll catch you all on

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Speaker 1: Sunday and anytime. Stay solid, peace,