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Speaker 1: Phi. Hi. This is Kyle Forber and welcome to The

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Speaker 1: Philly Show.

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Speaker 2: Hey, everybody, how are you doing? Ruben Tomorrow Juniors in

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Speaker 2: the house, Jim Salisbury's in the house. I'm here The

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Speaker 2: Philly Show. Friday, October eighteenth, twenty twenty four. Guys, it's

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Speaker 2: been more than a week since the Philly season ended.

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Speaker 2: Dave Dombrowski and Rob Thompson talked on Tuesday. We rehashed.

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Speaker 2: We hashed that out on Wednesday, and then we asked

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Speaker 2: your questions and oh my gosh, look at all these questions.

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Speaker 2: I printed out every almost every question we got. Well,

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Speaker 2: we will not be able to get to all these

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Speaker 2: we got questions on x YouTube, Instagram.

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Speaker 1: Nice.

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Speaker 2: The tone, Phillow is, the tone of these questions is

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Speaker 2: a little downtle, lot of frustration in some of these

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Speaker 2: questions in a little aggressive. Some of them are aggressive.

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Speaker 2: Some of them are aggressive by a couple choice words

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Speaker 2: were using some of these questions. I hope they weren't

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Speaker 2: directed at us. I think it was just the overall

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Speaker 2: frustration of the thing. And so we want to mention

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Speaker 2: at shibe. Let's jump right in the first question. Probably

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Speaker 2: about six or seven people ask this question, So I'm

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Speaker 2: just gonna pick one person. Linda Ploleelo on YouTube, why

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Speaker 2: not put Trey Turner in left field? If the team wants,

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Speaker 2: let's start with that. Why not put Turner in left field?

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Speaker 2: Also had some people say why not put him in

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Speaker 2: center field? Why keep him at shortstop? He was asked.

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Speaker 2: Dave Dombrowski was asked this on Tuesday about the defensive

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Speaker 2: metrics and his defense to metrics. I don't know how

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Speaker 2: much stock you guys put in those. They're clearly down though.

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Speaker 2: Defensive run saved on fangrafts outs above average on baseball

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Speaker 2: savant way down the past couple of years. Commits a

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Speaker 2: lot of errors. Why not move him to left field

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Speaker 2: or center field and put Scott over to shortstop? Why

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Speaker 2: not do something like that?

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Speaker 3: Jim Well, I'm actually in favor of something like that,

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Speaker 3: at least investigating something like that. Putting in left field?

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Speaker 3: Give you more flexibility this offseason and maybe make moves

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Speaker 3: other moves in the infield. But why do I think

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Speaker 3: they're not moving him. I think he received a semi

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Speaker 3: guarantee that it was going to be the shortstop for

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Speaker 3: the Philadelphia Phillies glamour position. I think if he was

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Speaker 3: if he was going to play a position other than shortstop,

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Speaker 3: he probably would have taken the San Diego Padres offer,

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Speaker 3: which was better than the Phillies. So, you know, two

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Speaker 3: years into a contract, I just you know, you recruited him,

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Speaker 3: you pitched him, you signed him to be your shortstop.

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Speaker 3: In two years into an eleven year contract, you're going

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Speaker 3: to move them. I think other free agents see that

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Speaker 3: and they think, oh, the Phillies went back on their word.

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Speaker 3: So I think it's still could happen down the road,

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Speaker 3: but I guess now is not the right time because

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Speaker 3: I think, like I said, they've recruited him as a shortstop.

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Speaker 3: They pitched him as a shortstop. They told him he

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Speaker 3: was gonna be their shortstop, and their word means something.

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Speaker 3: It's important, it's important to him, and like I said,

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Speaker 4: It two years into a deal. That's my take.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I agree with everything you said, Jim. I think

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Speaker 1: that's the reason, probably the reason. There's no question that

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Speaker 1: that's not a quote unquote glamour position. I believe that

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Speaker 1: the best team that they could feel probably doesn't have

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Speaker 1: So I honestly think that for him, if he ever

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Speaker 1: and uh, they may make that move does give the

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Speaker 1: ahead and play short. But I mean, I can understand

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Speaker 1: why he would not move right now, and it's sort

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Speaker 1: of unfortunate. But you know, this is why David Grossby

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Speaker 1: dynamic offensive player and uh and has you know, the

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Speaker 1: that at some point, just like just like Harper, and

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Speaker 2: Mean two years into an eleven year deal. That's that's

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Speaker 2: a tough spot. I mean, I know fans don't want

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Speaker 2: down and tell them you're moving. I don't care, screw

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Speaker 2: Hall of Famers that have moved positions in the middle

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Speaker 2: of their careers, you know. I mean, for me, growing up,

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Speaker 2: outfield or vice versa. So let's see, how about Evan Nice.

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Speaker 2: How do you feel about adding a player like Anthony Santander?

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Speaker 2: Feels like a realistic corner outfield free agent target. Do

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Speaker 2: is enough to put this team over the top. Feels

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Speaker 2: hard to trust this core after the last two octobers.

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Speaker 2: I mean Santander had you know, he had what like

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Speaker 2: You know, he would make a lot of sense, but

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Speaker 2: it seems like he kind of would be more the same.

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Speaker 4: No. I like him, and he produced.

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Speaker 3: He puts up big power numbers, but you know, I

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Speaker 3: agree with you, it might not exactly be what they

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Speaker 4: Yeah, So, I mean they look pretty said. It depends

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Speaker 3: I mean, I think it's gonna be like a domino

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Speaker 3: they very well could. But you know, the question brought

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Speaker 3: up complementary pieces, and you know, around the edges pieces.

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Speaker 3: I actually think those type of players can make a difference.

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Speaker 3: I could make a difference on this team because I

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Speaker 3: know it's hard to believe in this core after the

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Speaker 3: last two Octobers, but they still have good track records.

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Speaker 3: There's still good players. It's just about playing well in October.

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Speaker 3: And we've seen this team play well for you know,

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Speaker 3: long stretches, play poorer for long stretches. It's about getting

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Speaker 4: I still think they have a pretty good roster.

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Speaker 1: I think they have a great roster. I do believe

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Speaker 1: in what Dave Dobrowski said. I mean, it's as good

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Speaker 1: I do think that they could add some people with

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Speaker 1: that bullpen, but as far as the offense, we just

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Speaker 1: Because I do think if you sit there and watch

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Speaker 1: It's a team that reminds me of the New York

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Speaker 1: Yankees in the nineties, where they don't swing out of

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Speaker 1: So anyway, I just feel like it'd be really important

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Speaker 2: This is an interesting question, Powell Paul pause on I

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Speaker 2: Ruben thinks is actually happening behind closed doors. There's what

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Speaker 2: Dave says in public and a whole other approach in private.

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Speaker 2: I would guess what is it? Will you try to

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Speaker 2: how did you go into these things? The post wartem

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Speaker 2: and like we're asking questions, what are you going to do?

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Speaker 1: I think it's important for for a variety of reasons,

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Speaker 1: Let's think about that evaluation too, that he devalues the player.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I would look to upgrade offensively, But I don't

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Speaker 3: He's got a lot of talent. You could speed chase

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Speaker 3: So I still think there is there's a lot of

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Speaker 3: Does he do anything for you as uh an extra

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Speaker 2: Every day every day.

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Speaker 4: But on a championship caliber team where every run matters,

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Speaker 1: We like anybody, but you can't compromise. You can't compromise it.

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Speaker 1: No disrespect him because he's made himself as good at

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Speaker 2: He's a complimentary ish. Yes, he's a guy I liked

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Speaker 1: And he's one of those guys you actually can play

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Speaker 1: good player.

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Speaker 2: He fit.

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Speaker 3: So you're you're saying, then then you would move Boem

435
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Speaker 3: for they got to get something good back for Bom.

436
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Speaker 4: But it's definitely a strategy you have to think about.

437
00:22:14,520 --> 00:22:16,520
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's it's it would be something. But I mean

438
00:22:16,560 --> 00:22:18,800
Speaker 1: you've got to try to have you got to somehow,

439
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Speaker 1: some way, Phil, And again, this is where you have

440
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Speaker 1: to sort of be creative. And again I'm not I'm

441
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Speaker 1: not advocating necessarily to move Alec Bohm, but if Alec Boum,

442
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Speaker 1: maybe Alec Bohum goes to first and Harper goes to left,

443
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Speaker 1: I don't know. I I think that there's I think

444
00:22:38,400 --> 00:22:41,280
Speaker 1: you have to be open minded and creative. I think

445
00:22:41,280 --> 00:22:44,240
Speaker 1: about what Pat Gillick does and what he did and

446
00:22:44,280 --> 00:22:47,440
Speaker 1: how he operated, and I know it's difficult to ask

447
00:22:47,480 --> 00:22:50,720
Speaker 1: certain players to do these things, and shoot, you know,

448
00:22:50,800 --> 00:22:53,920
Speaker 1: Harper ended up having you know, possibly gold Glove level

449
00:22:54,000 --> 00:22:59,560
Speaker 1: first base year. But I mean, I think you've got

450
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Speaker 1: to be open and I think that David and Brown

451
00:23:01,800 --> 00:23:04,600
Speaker 1: is going to try to do I don't know that

452
00:23:04,600 --> 00:23:07,560
Speaker 1: that's the solution. I just think that it's important for

453
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Speaker 1: guys to be thinking this way and for the Phillies

454
00:23:10,680 --> 00:23:13,040
Speaker 1: to be thinking this way because there aren't that many

455
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Speaker 1: options out there. There really aren't, and they're not gonna

456
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Speaker 1: trade assets that they have. The Aiden Millers of the

457
00:23:19,200 --> 00:23:20,880
Speaker 1: world are they're gonna wait to see if that kid

458
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Speaker 1: can be a major league player for them. The Crawfords

459
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Speaker 1: of the world, the Justin Crawford's of the world, they're

460
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Speaker 1: gonna wait to see if that guy can really compete

461
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Speaker 1: as a center fielder every day, because somebody's gonna have

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Speaker 1: to come cheap and controllable.

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Speaker 4: Right, and they need to be.

464
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Speaker 3: They've had a sinkhole in center field for years. You're

465
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Speaker 3: hoping that Justin Crawford's the guy for eight or ten years.

466
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Speaker 4: But I mean that's a really creative type of thing.

467
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Speaker 3: Moving Harper to the outfield, Bam across the diamond and

468
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Speaker 3: adding their player like Bragman. I mean, you're right, that

469
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Speaker 3: is like a Pat Gillick, thinking out of the box

470
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Speaker 3: type of thing. And I'm sure they'll think about that.

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Speaker 3: On the executive level. A big question is what Harper

472
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Speaker 3: moved back to the outfield? Think no, he may not,

473
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Speaker 3: but who knows.

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Speaker 2: Todd No, I was gonna say, I think more realistic

475
00:24:07,040 --> 00:24:09,200
Speaker 2: would be keeping Harper at first, and then if you

476
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Speaker 2: were gonna sign Bregman, go after Bregman. Trade bom and

477
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Speaker 2: maybe use that piece to get value for that piece.

478
00:24:15,840 --> 00:24:18,760
Speaker 2: He's he's under control for the next two years. Maybe

479
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Speaker 2: you find yourself a corner outfield, or maybe you find

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Speaker 2: yourself a big arm in the outfield, or you know,

481
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Speaker 2: somebody in the rotation. Whatever. But I think that would

482
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Speaker 2: be a more realistic move than movement. I think Bryce

483
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Speaker 2: really loves playing first base. He's above average at first base.

484
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Speaker 2: He's he's a Gold Glove finalist at first base. So

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Speaker 2: we talk about defense, you know, Uh, it'd be tough

486
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Speaker 2: to kind of remove him, and Alec Bahm is not

487
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Speaker 2: as good of a defense at first basem as I

488
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Speaker 2: as I think Bryce Harper is. So but that would

489
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Speaker 2: be interesting and that that would be something that would

490
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Speaker 2: maybe get the fans juices flowing. Not that you make

491
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Speaker 2: moves to do that for that purpose, but it it

492
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Speaker 2: is fun. I just want to do something like that. U. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: that would be that would be very very interesting. I

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Speaker 2: see you're speaking of prospects. Squat Philly Sports. Squat Squat

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Speaker 2: Philly Sports on x Is Painter on the opening day roster.

496
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Speaker 2: How far away is Aiden Miller and Justin.

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Speaker 1: Crawford probably six months away because he's probably hit closer

498
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Speaker 1: than Miller. Miller, he's a high school kid, man, he

499
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Speaker 1: might come quick. And people are saying, well, you know,

500
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Speaker 1: other teams just throw their guys up there. No, they

501
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Speaker 1: don't all do that.

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Speaker 3: Even if Aiden Miller gets here in twenty twenty six,

503
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Speaker 3: that's coming quick.

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Speaker 4: This kid was in high school a year and a

505
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Speaker 4: half ago.

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Speaker 1: People are talking about Jackson Churio. I mean, he came

507
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Speaker 1: from a totally different background.

508
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Speaker 2: Man.

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Speaker 1: He was signed when he was sixteen years old. Yeah,

510
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Speaker 1: and he's been playing professional baseball for two or three

511
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Speaker 1: years prior to getting to the big leagues, and he

512
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Speaker 1: was He's a special talent. Can guys do it? Did

513
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Speaker 1: the Robin Yohns of the world do it? Yes? Did?

514
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Speaker 1: But he's a Hall of famer Harper Trout. I mean

515
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Speaker 1: these are Hall of Fame players, Okay, Now, will Aiden

516
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Speaker 1: Miller be a Hall of Famer? God bless, I hope

517
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Speaker 1: he is. But I mean, I mean that happens. Those

518
00:26:19,400 --> 00:26:22,719
Speaker 1: are three play players out of what twenty thousands, okay,

519
00:26:22,800 --> 00:26:25,720
Speaker 1: so or fifty thousand or however many major league players

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Speaker 1: have been in the world. So everybody cool your jets man.

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Speaker 2: You know what is funny though, is for years and

522
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Speaker 2: years and years, especially with after Harper and Trout came up. Jim,

523
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Speaker 2: how many times do you get a tweet saying the

524
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Speaker 2: Phillies never promoting their players when they're young. I'm like,

525
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Speaker 2: do they have anybody in the system that's even remotely

526
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Speaker 2: close to Bryce Harper?

527
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Speaker 1: And that's how that's how Jim got me fired because

528
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Speaker 1: I wouldn't. I wouldn't bring Nola up after four starts

529
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Speaker 1: in the minors. I told him the fans didn't know

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Speaker 1: what they're talking about. Danged gone, Ruben gone. Those four

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Speaker 1: starts made a big difference. I mean, come on, like,

532
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Speaker 1: so yeah, I think.

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Speaker 3: Even if, like I said, if Miller gets here in

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Speaker 3: twenty six, that's still coming very young and young and early.

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Speaker 4: And whatever you want to call it.

536
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Speaker 3: And Painter that's you know, what's he going to be

537
00:27:16,119 --> 00:27:18,480
Speaker 3: like one hundred innings next year? And to me, I'm

538
00:27:18,520 --> 00:27:21,080
Speaker 3: taking him really slow. He's not gonna be on the

539
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Speaker 3: opening day roster. They're too important, and I'm taking them

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Speaker 3: really slow. And then I'm I'm I'm working him in

541
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Speaker 3: towards the second half and trying to use most of

542
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Speaker 3: his innings when I'm playing big games and I'm hoping

543
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Speaker 3: he doesn't feel like he has to be the savior.

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Speaker 3: I'm hoping he continues his development, but I'm hoping he

545
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Speaker 3: shows his prowess and is a contributor behind a pretty.

546
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Speaker 4: Good force him above him.

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Speaker 3: So I hope he I hope he comes in the

548
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Speaker 3: second half and like I said, doesn't feel like he

549
00:27:50,560 --> 00:27:52,399
Speaker 3: has to be the savior. And then just just go

550
00:27:52,440 --> 00:27:54,880
Speaker 3: on and pitch well for the Philadelphia Phillies and make

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00:27:55,040 --> 00:27:57,600
Speaker 3: make the second half of next next year a real

552
00:27:57,880 --> 00:28:00,800
Speaker 3: good foundation building block for twenty six when you can

553
00:28:01,080 --> 00:28:04,600
Speaker 3: start to take the harness off, and then twenty seven

554
00:28:04,640 --> 00:28:06,280
Speaker 3: you can really turn him loose and he's still a

555
00:28:06,280 --> 00:28:06,760
Speaker 3: young man.

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Speaker 1: Dave, you should be. You should be in player development. Jim,

557
00:28:10,080 --> 00:28:12,840
Speaker 1: you should be. How come people haven't have Somebody hasn't

558
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Speaker 1: hired you.

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Speaker 3: You know, I've been asked my question, that question to

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Speaker 3: myself for years. I think I asked you that question.

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Speaker 1: That question, that's a good one.

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Speaker 4: I think you did. You did appoint me as a

563
00:28:23,840 --> 00:28:25,159
Speaker 4: scout of one area, but I.

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Speaker 1: Just one out of just one not here here, but

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Speaker 1: right in here, right well.

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Speaker 2: Dave Dombrowski did say on Tuesday, says, justin Crawford is

567
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Speaker 2: coming fast, but he's not expecting him to be, you know,

568
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Speaker 2: in the mix, uh come opening day. He said aiden Miller,

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Speaker 2: he does not think will be in play next year.

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Speaker 2: I don't know how much I believe. I mean, I

571
00:28:45,480 --> 00:28:47,120
Speaker 2: see what you I know what you guys are saying.

572
00:28:47,160 --> 00:28:49,440
Speaker 2: But he did finish the season in reading. If he

573
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Speaker 2: starts off the season like Gangbusters, if he plays great

574
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Speaker 2: in Triple A, David Dave Dombrowski is not something that's

575
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Speaker 2: gonna go well, you know, we're gonna we're gonna keep

576
00:28:58,440 --> 00:29:03,280
Speaker 2: him down. Dave likes young to promote young players. It's possible,

577
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Speaker 2: It's possible. And then Edward Painter, he basically said the

578
00:29:05,960 --> 00:29:08,080
Speaker 2: same thing. You know, He's like, what are we gonna do.

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Speaker 2: We're not gonna we start him in the season with

580
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Speaker 2: the big leagues. He's not gonna be pitching versus September October.

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Speaker 2: We mean waite mont him to pitch for US in

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Speaker 2: September and October. So I think mid season.

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Speaker 1: With Miller, I'll give you, I'll give you a perfect

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Speaker 1: example of how David Dombrowski operates. We had Andrew ben

585
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Speaker 1: Attendi in the minor leagues with the Boston Red Sox,

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Speaker 1: and we had Jackie Bradley in center, and we had

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Speaker 1: Rookie betson right, and there was a possibility that they

588
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Speaker 1: could get somebody like a Beltran to play left field

589
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Speaker 1: at the time, and there was a discussion meeting amongst

590
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Speaker 1: the staff and the coaches in the and and he

591
00:29:45,960 --> 00:29:50,160
Speaker 1: basically said, like, do we think that Ben Attendi can

592
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Speaker 1: help this major league team? Can he be an asset

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Speaker 1: to the team. And basically some of the scouts and

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00:29:55,120 --> 00:29:57,200
Speaker 1: some of the people have seen him and some of

595
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Speaker 1: his you know, people said, yeah, we think he can.

596
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Speaker 1: So what's the delta between Beltran and you know, and

597
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Speaker 1: a guy like Ben Attende? And he didn't sound like

598
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Speaker 1: it was a whole lot. So they said, you know what,

599
00:30:09,160 --> 00:30:11,680
Speaker 1: let's bring Ben Attende. He's not afraid to bring a guy.

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Speaker 1: He brought him in the middle of a freaking Pennant

601
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Speaker 1: rate with the idea that we wanted to win the

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Speaker 1: World Series. But he doesn't want. The beauty of what

603
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Speaker 1: they're what the Phillies have right now is that they

604
00:30:22,480 --> 00:30:25,560
Speaker 1: they are in a great position to not have guys

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Speaker 1: feel like they have to be the savior, as Jim said,

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Speaker 1: because they have the superstars on this team, and they

607
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Speaker 1: also then these superstars actually are really great at welcoming

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Speaker 1: these young players in. So there's no no rush to

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Speaker 1: do it. But at the same time, if there's an

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Speaker 1: opportunity to do it and he believes that they're ready

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Speaker 1: to do it, Dave Dombrowski will not hold guys back.

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Speaker 3: Right in reference to Aiden Miller, in reference to Justin

613
00:30:52,160 --> 00:30:57,680
Speaker 3: Crawford old baseball adage, the player will dictate that's.

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Speaker 2: Right, absolutely right. Here's a question from John lind Ross.

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Speaker 2: Kyle Schwarber is entering his final year, tremendous contract, tremendous

616
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Speaker 2: free agents signing, maybe my favorite Phillies hitter. No way

617
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Speaker 2: I would extend him on a multi year deal, But

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Speaker 2: what do you think about his future with the team?

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Speaker 4: Is?

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Speaker 2: You know, did you guys extend him?

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Speaker 3: I'd love to get him on a one year extension,

622
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Speaker 3: but I think he's got tread on his tire, and

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Speaker 3: I think he's a good player and a difference making

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Speaker 3: player on the field and in the clubhouse, and he's

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Speaker 3: gonna want more than one year, and he owes it

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Speaker 3: to himself to seek more than one year unless he

627
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Speaker 3: you know, he wants to go year to year, So

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Speaker 3: I think, you know, you come at him with a

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Speaker 3: one year extension, he might just ride it out and

630
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Speaker 3: say I think I can get three.

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Speaker 4: Somewhere else or four somewhere else.

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Speaker 2: So love to have him, But is there anybody that

633
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Speaker 2: I would I would extend him for two more years.

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Speaker 1: I would give him a two year because I know

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Speaker 1: he can d H. I think he brings more to

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Speaker 1: the table to this team than in his heart to

637
00:32:00,240 --> 00:32:02,920
Speaker 1: measurable to me, you can't really measure this, but I

638
00:32:02,920 --> 00:32:04,920
Speaker 1: think he brings a lot more to this team the

639
00:32:04,960 --> 00:32:08,960
Speaker 1: way it's set up, than just his ability to produce

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Speaker 1: offensively as a DH. I think he's got a couple

641
00:32:12,440 --> 00:32:15,680
Speaker 1: of intangibles as a leader on the team, as a

642
00:32:15,720 --> 00:32:20,440
Speaker 1: clubhouse person, as someone who has the pedigree to have won.

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Speaker 1: I think he brings a lot of different things to

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Speaker 1: the table that I would in a way pay for

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Speaker 1: an extra year to have him than not have him.

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Speaker 1: And so right now I don't know that he will,

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Speaker 1: but I would explore it.

648
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Speaker 2: Yeah, that'd be you know, his impact in that clubhouse

649
00:32:41,080 --> 00:32:45,440
Speaker 2: is tremendous significant. You know, I know sometimes people poo

650
00:32:45,480 --> 00:32:48,520
Speaker 2: poo that stuff and they say, you know it means, Oh,

651
00:32:48,720 --> 00:32:52,400
Speaker 2: I think it's I think it's huge. Uh, this is

652
00:32:52,440 --> 00:32:56,360
Speaker 2: an instagram e pluribus unim n Jay wants to know

653
00:32:56,400 --> 00:32:59,280
Speaker 2: how feasible is it to implement a more patient batting

654
00:32:59,320 --> 00:33:02,120
Speaker 2: approach with players in the lineup. We've talked about this

655
00:33:02,280 --> 00:33:05,080
Speaker 2: a little bit, but it's certainly that's kind of what

656
00:33:05,080 --> 00:33:07,080
Speaker 2: the Phillies are saying, right like, we're gonna work on

657
00:33:07,080 --> 00:33:08,840
Speaker 2: this in the offseason. I mentioned it the other day

658
00:33:08,840 --> 00:33:13,080
Speaker 2: that I feel like every spring, every GM manager and

659
00:33:13,160 --> 00:33:15,520
Speaker 2: hitting coach says, you know, we're gonna work on getting

660
00:33:15,520 --> 00:33:17,480
Speaker 2: these guys to hit the ball the opposite way and

661
00:33:18,120 --> 00:33:20,160
Speaker 2: get that runner in from third base with less than

662
00:33:20,200 --> 00:33:22,000
Speaker 2: two outs. That's gonna be our focus this spring. And

663
00:33:22,000 --> 00:33:24,520
Speaker 2: then the season starts and it's like, what happened to

664
00:33:24,560 --> 00:33:27,320
Speaker 2: that focus? They're all swinging out of their shoes again.

665
00:33:27,360 --> 00:33:31,240
Speaker 2: So how realistic is it, guys to get these guys

666
00:33:32,720 --> 00:33:34,320
Speaker 2: to do what they say they are going to do

667
00:33:34,440 --> 00:33:35,640
Speaker 2: or want to do next season.

668
00:33:36,080 --> 00:33:39,440
Speaker 3: It's gonna be tough because the style of hitting is

669
00:33:39,600 --> 00:33:41,680
Speaker 3: ingrained in a lot of these guys that are veteran guys.

670
00:33:41,920 --> 00:33:44,720
Speaker 3: We've talked about it time and time again that when

671
00:33:44,760 --> 00:33:47,600
Speaker 3: the game speeds up and the guys bearing down on

672
00:33:47,640 --> 00:33:51,640
Speaker 3: you sixty feet six inches, adrenaline's flying and the fans

673
00:33:51,640 --> 00:33:54,000
Speaker 3: are roaring, and the pressures on. Sometimes you're going to

674
00:33:54,080 --> 00:33:56,520
Speaker 3: go back to what you are the area. I do

675
00:33:56,560 --> 00:34:00,720
Speaker 3: think they can improve that selectivity, contact, getting on base,

676
00:34:00,840 --> 00:34:02,800
Speaker 3: whatever the hell you want to call it is with

677
00:34:02,920 --> 00:34:05,960
Speaker 3: Bryson Stop, I think it can improve there. I think

678
00:34:06,000 --> 00:34:07,960
Speaker 3: he's got the aptitude to be more of the player

679
00:34:08,040 --> 00:34:12,239
Speaker 3: he was in twenty three than he was in twenty four.

680
00:34:13,040 --> 00:34:14,959
Speaker 3: And you know, I think it's I think he needs

681
00:34:15,000 --> 00:34:17,680
Speaker 3: to make those changes in those adjustments and make his

682
00:34:17,760 --> 00:34:20,520
Speaker 3: goal getting on first base and make his goal line

683
00:34:20,600 --> 00:34:23,680
Speaker 3: drive approach and being ready for the fastball and being on.

684
00:34:23,680 --> 00:34:26,239
Speaker 4: Top of the fastball. So I think he can make

685
00:34:26,280 --> 00:34:26,920
Speaker 4: improvements there.

686
00:34:26,960 --> 00:34:28,759
Speaker 3: And I think, you know, in a lineup, one guy

687
00:34:28,840 --> 00:34:31,160
Speaker 3: can make a difference, So maybe they can inch it

688
00:34:31,160 --> 00:34:32,160
Speaker 3: forward if he's better.

689
00:34:32,480 --> 00:34:35,120
Speaker 2: Maybe that makes a lot of because I also got

690
00:34:35,160 --> 00:34:36,799
Speaker 2: a lot of questions that maybe like two or three

691
00:34:36,840 --> 00:34:39,120
Speaker 2: questions on Steven Kwan and could the Phillies go out

692
00:34:39,120 --> 00:34:41,279
Speaker 2: and get him. I mean that would be amazing, But

693
00:34:41,320 --> 00:34:44,000
Speaker 2: I almost also feel like Bryson Scott kind of can

694
00:34:44,040 --> 00:34:46,960
Speaker 2: be that guy, get the bat on the ball, hit

695
00:34:46,960 --> 00:34:49,640
Speaker 2: the ball the opposite field, make a lot of contact,

696
00:34:49,880 --> 00:34:52,319
Speaker 2: a high, high batting average guy. I feel like he

697
00:34:52,400 --> 00:34:54,680
Speaker 2: can be that guy. He took a step back this year,

698
00:34:55,080 --> 00:34:56,960
Speaker 2: but man, if he can do what he did the

699
00:34:57,000 --> 00:35:00,840
Speaker 2: first four and a half five months of the twenty

700
00:35:00,880 --> 00:35:03,680
Speaker 2: twenty three season, now he's now you have your lead

701
00:35:03,680 --> 00:35:07,359
Speaker 2: off hitter. Now you can move Kyle Schwarber down if

702
00:35:07,360 --> 00:35:08,960
Speaker 2: you wanted to do that. You know, if you you

703
00:35:09,000 --> 00:35:10,880
Speaker 2: know so, he's he solves a lot of problems for you.

704
00:35:11,480 --> 00:35:14,040
Speaker 1: Yeah, but I don't think but I don't think it's

705
00:35:14,080 --> 00:35:16,200
Speaker 1: it's just one player, and I don't think we should

706
00:35:16,200 --> 00:35:18,520
Speaker 1: put it on his shoulders. I think I do.

707
00:35:18,560 --> 00:35:20,759
Speaker 4: Think he's the guy that can do it. I think

708
00:35:20,760 --> 00:35:22,839
Speaker 4: he's he can improve the other guys can.

709
00:35:23,680 --> 00:35:28,120
Speaker 1: Yeah. See, I have an opposite thought about this because

710
00:35:28,160 --> 00:35:32,160
Speaker 1: I've seen guys make adjustments over time. I've seen you know, really,

711
00:35:32,640 --> 00:35:35,200
Speaker 1: these are supreme athletes, right, A guy like Trade Tuoner

712
00:35:35,320 --> 00:35:37,160
Speaker 1: is a supreme athlete. I've been watching him since he

713
00:35:37,160 --> 00:35:39,719
Speaker 1: played at NC State. This guy can do a lot

714
00:35:39,760 --> 00:35:43,120
Speaker 1: of things. And I know that people talk about you know,

715
00:35:43,280 --> 00:35:45,319
Speaker 1: they don't have it in their DNA to be able

716
00:35:45,400 --> 00:35:49,560
Speaker 1: to do this well. Kyle Schumer made a major change.

717
00:35:49,800 --> 00:35:52,120
Speaker 1: He became a pretty damn good hitter. All of a sudden,

718
00:35:52,120 --> 00:35:55,960
Speaker 1: he raises his average fifty points. So he made it

719
00:35:56,000 --> 00:36:00,040
Speaker 1: a real difficult change in his approach to get to

720
00:36:00,120 --> 00:36:03,520
Speaker 1: where he was this year. Is a productive player. Why

721
00:36:03,560 --> 00:36:06,480
Speaker 1: can't Trey Turner do that? I think it's a commitment

722
00:36:07,080 --> 00:36:10,359
Speaker 1: that the player himself wants to have, and I think

723
00:36:10,360 --> 00:36:13,239
Speaker 1: it's he's a pretty cerebral guy. I mean they talk

724
00:36:13,320 --> 00:36:15,279
Speaker 1: to Turner a lot. I mean they talk a lot

725
00:36:15,320 --> 00:36:17,239
Speaker 1: in the cage. You see some of the things that

726
00:36:17,280 --> 00:36:20,600
Speaker 1: have happened over the year. Over the year, I would

727
00:36:20,600 --> 00:36:23,360
Speaker 1: hope that he looked, you know that the guy like

728
00:36:23,400 --> 00:36:27,520
Speaker 1: Trey Turner and other guys and I think Casianos has

729
00:36:27,520 --> 00:36:29,879
Speaker 1: done this. I think, you know, these guys do think

730
00:36:29,920 --> 00:36:32,440
Speaker 1: about hitting and work with you know, the mental approach

731
00:36:32,480 --> 00:36:35,439
Speaker 1: and the approach. I'm hopeful that a guy like Trey

732
00:36:35,440 --> 00:36:38,600
Speaker 1: Turner goes back and says, you know what, I have

733
00:36:38,680 --> 00:36:41,440
Speaker 1: to be more selective and I got to give myself

734
00:36:41,440 --> 00:36:43,799
Speaker 1: a chance to have more success by staying in the

735
00:36:43,840 --> 00:36:46,719
Speaker 1: strike zone better and make a real commitment to doing that.

736
00:36:47,520 --> 00:36:49,600
Speaker 1: If the player is not committed to doing that, it's

737
00:36:49,640 --> 00:36:52,040
Speaker 1: not going to happen, but hopefully he can and he

738
00:36:52,080 --> 00:36:54,680
Speaker 1: has the ability to do it. I think the guy

739
00:36:54,719 --> 00:36:57,200
Speaker 1: doesn't hit a breaking ball, he can hit a breaking ball,

740
00:36:58,080 --> 00:37:00,359
Speaker 1: he can hit a mistake. I couldn't hit to break

741
00:37:00,360 --> 00:37:01,920
Speaker 1: the ball. I didn't have the ability to do it.

742
00:37:02,080 --> 00:37:06,279
Speaker 1: Those guys can't. And so I believe that if they

743
00:37:06,360 --> 00:37:10,319
Speaker 1: want to commit, truly commit to getting this done, I

744
00:37:10,360 --> 00:37:13,920
Speaker 1: think that one all they do is watch the Dodgers

745
00:37:13,920 --> 00:37:17,480
Speaker 1: this season, this postseason, and two and how much success

746
00:37:17,480 --> 00:37:21,640
Speaker 1: they can have. And two understand that these are the

747
00:37:21,680 --> 00:37:23,399
Speaker 1: things that really did take us out of our game

748
00:37:23,440 --> 00:37:26,040
Speaker 1: and took us out of the playoffs this year. And

749
00:37:26,320 --> 00:37:28,440
Speaker 1: I want to be committed to doing this. And if

750
00:37:28,480 --> 00:37:31,160
Speaker 1: they can and they do, I think it can there

751
00:37:31,160 --> 00:37:32,680
Speaker 1: could be an improvement internally.

752
00:37:33,000 --> 00:37:36,880
Speaker 4: I agree with you. Turner is vital and he's extremely talented.

753
00:37:36,920 --> 00:37:40,520
Speaker 3: If he and Stott were to set like private goals

754
00:37:40,560 --> 00:37:42,760
Speaker 3: that you set these private goals going into a season.

755
00:37:43,920 --> 00:37:44,960
Speaker 4: If Trey Turner.

756
00:37:44,760 --> 00:37:46,800
Speaker 3: Set the private goal, I want to win about in title,

757
00:37:47,480 --> 00:37:50,440
Speaker 3: and if Bryson Stott set the private goal, I want

758
00:37:50,440 --> 00:37:51,200
Speaker 3: to hit three hundred.

759
00:37:52,160 --> 00:37:56,160
Speaker 4: I think those would really serve them well a little

760
00:37:56,200 --> 00:37:56,600
Speaker 4: bit like.

761
00:37:56,560 --> 00:37:59,840
Speaker 1: I think about when when when Charlie Man used to

762
00:38:00,160 --> 00:38:03,400
Speaker 1: Jim Tolmy, you know what, if you just hit three hundred,

763
00:38:04,360 --> 00:38:08,959
Speaker 1: all the other numbers will be ridiculous. Yes, what he's

764
00:38:09,000 --> 00:38:12,920
Speaker 1: a Hall of Famer because of it, because he actually

765
00:38:13,040 --> 00:38:15,160
Speaker 1: was a good hitter. He stayed in the strike so

766
00:38:15,239 --> 00:38:17,080
Speaker 1: he didn't strike He struck out a lot, but he

767
00:38:17,080 --> 00:38:19,120
Speaker 1: didn't strike out like he got on.

768
00:38:19,120 --> 00:38:19,719
Speaker 2: Base a lot.

769
00:38:20,200 --> 00:38:22,400
Speaker 1: He got on base a lot, on base a lot.

770
00:38:22,760 --> 00:38:24,080
Speaker 1: He's a Hall of Famer.

771
00:38:24,360 --> 00:38:26,319
Speaker 2: Look at Ryan Howard's first three years and he was

772
00:38:26,360 --> 00:38:29,600
Speaker 2: hitting three hundred amazing, and.

773
00:38:29,520 --> 00:38:31,720
Speaker 1: Then and then he really struggled and when he started

774
00:38:31,719 --> 00:38:34,560
Speaker 1: working outside the zone right and at the end of

775
00:38:34,560 --> 00:38:36,680
Speaker 1: his career, trying to do too much and he you know,

776
00:38:36,920 --> 00:38:37,720
Speaker 1: that really hurt.

777
00:38:37,640 --> 00:38:42,120
Speaker 2: Him a couple more on Instagram. What does the off

778
00:38:42,160 --> 00:38:46,680
Speaker 2: season look like for Todd, Jim, and Rubin. I'm sure

779
00:38:46,680 --> 00:38:48,520
Speaker 2: you get well, Rubin, you didn't get this when you

780
00:38:48,520 --> 00:38:51,279
Speaker 2: were when you were GMing, because everybody knew that you

781
00:38:51,320 --> 00:38:52,560
Speaker 2: were busy constructing the team.

782
00:38:52,600 --> 00:38:57,080
Speaker 1: But I know I was just put your.

783
00:38:56,960 --> 00:38:59,160
Speaker 2: Feet up on the desk, watch Sports Center in the office.

784
00:38:59,480 --> 00:39:01,200
Speaker 2: Let it at But I mean a lot of people.

785
00:39:01,280 --> 00:39:03,000
Speaker 2: Jim asked us, like, you know, so, like what do

786
00:39:03,080 --> 00:39:05,280
Speaker 2: you what do you do in the winter Now.

787
00:39:05,560 --> 00:39:05,640
Speaker 1: I.

788
00:39:07,719 --> 00:39:09,920
Speaker 4: Watched Beat Bobby Flay on TV.

789
00:39:12,280 --> 00:39:14,840
Speaker 2: Ketch up on your I know, beat Bobby Flay, I know,

790
00:39:14,920 --> 00:39:18,200
Speaker 2: beat Bobby Flay. No, but I do watch all I

791
00:39:18,200 --> 00:39:19,640
Speaker 2: do catch up on a lot of my TV. You

792
00:39:19,680 --> 00:39:21,920
Speaker 2: know it's show I finished up the last season of

793
00:39:22,040 --> 00:39:24,200
Speaker 2: I think I mentioned the show to you guys, Slow

794
00:39:24,239 --> 00:39:28,120
Speaker 2: Horses on Apple TV. You guys watch Slow Horses. It's

795
00:39:28,120 --> 00:39:31,320
Speaker 2: a spy show, British spy show. Gary omens in it.

796
00:39:31,320 --> 00:39:35,200
Speaker 2: It is fantastic if you have Apple TV. I'm telling

797
00:39:35,200 --> 00:39:37,600
Speaker 2: you like spy stuff, spy shows.

798
00:39:37,680 --> 00:39:39,919
Speaker 3: I'm going to watch the Flyers. I'm going to watch

799
00:39:39,960 --> 00:39:43,719
Speaker 3: me Cough and lou Chenko and I'm going to watch

800
00:39:43,760 --> 00:39:46,000
Speaker 3: John Tortorella's post game press.

801
00:39:48,600 --> 00:39:51,120
Speaker 1: I feel like that there's some excitement with that. There's

802
00:39:51,120 --> 00:39:53,000
Speaker 1: some excitement with the Flyers. It's kind of cool. I

803
00:39:53,120 --> 00:39:54,560
Speaker 1: like to see that. And I really think that the

804
00:39:54,760 --> 00:39:58,880
Speaker 1: Brierre and others and Jonesy have done are doing a

805
00:39:58,880 --> 00:40:01,279
Speaker 1: really cool job of bringing the old Flyers man, the

806
00:40:01,320 --> 00:40:03,279
Speaker 1: old fire spirit. I think it's I think it's a

807
00:40:03,320 --> 00:40:05,960
Speaker 1: cool thing. I'll be doing a lot of golf. I

808
00:40:05,960 --> 00:40:06,759
Speaker 1: think they have a plan.

809
00:40:06,960 --> 00:40:09,480
Speaker 4: They got a plan and they're sticking to it, just

810
00:40:09,480 --> 00:40:12,160
Speaker 4: like you did with Aaron Nola or Ruben Uh.

811
00:40:12,440 --> 00:40:16,120
Speaker 1: You know, and you know that Aaron Nola guy ends

812
00:40:16,200 --> 00:40:17,279
Speaker 1: up having a pretty good career.

813
00:40:17,360 --> 00:40:20,239
Speaker 4: Yeah, you had a plan and you were right.

814
00:40:20,360 --> 00:40:23,719
Speaker 2: And sometimes sometimes yeah, those those plans they work out.

815
00:40:23,719 --> 00:40:25,120
Speaker 2: You know, you get killed at the time for not

816
00:40:25,160 --> 00:40:27,879
Speaker 2: promoting somebody, you know, but sometimes you let a guy

817
00:40:27,880 --> 00:40:29,319
Speaker 2: develop a little bit and they end up having a

818
00:40:29,320 --> 00:40:33,800
Speaker 2: great career. Like like, here's here's a question, Ruben Uh,

819
00:40:34,000 --> 00:40:36,600
Speaker 2: Ryan Howard and Chase Utley. A lot of people say

820
00:40:36,640 --> 00:40:37,960
Speaker 2: they should have called him up a year or two

821
00:40:38,040 --> 00:40:39,839
Speaker 2: earlier than that. Do you think they would have had

822
00:40:39,880 --> 00:40:41,640
Speaker 2: the same amount of success if you had called them

823
00:40:41,680 --> 00:40:43,560
Speaker 2: up earlier, or the Phillies had called them up earlier.

824
00:40:43,600 --> 00:40:46,360
Speaker 2: I know Chase got promoted with when Ed was in charge,

825
00:40:47,080 --> 00:40:50,040
Speaker 2: but that was you know what I mean, Like, maybe

826
00:40:50,040 --> 00:40:51,759
Speaker 2: they don't have the same career if they get called

827
00:40:51,800 --> 00:40:54,440
Speaker 2: up early, Maybe they lose their confidence, maybe something happens.

828
00:40:54,480 --> 00:40:54,759
Speaker 2: I don't know.

829
00:40:54,880 --> 00:40:57,080
Speaker 1: I think Jim Jim has said it. I think the

830
00:40:57,080 --> 00:40:59,640
Speaker 1: player will let you know. I think and my dad

831
00:40:59,719 --> 00:41:01,279
Speaker 1: used to tell me this all the time. When it's

832
00:41:01,280 --> 00:41:02,759
Speaker 1: time for you to be in the big leagues, you'll

833
00:41:02,800 --> 00:41:07,080
Speaker 1: be in the big leagues. And generally, generally it's you know,

834
00:41:07,160 --> 00:41:09,520
Speaker 1: everybody thinks he has to to throw guys up there

835
00:41:09,520 --> 00:41:11,440
Speaker 1: and just let him sink or swim, you know, like

836
00:41:11,520 --> 00:41:14,720
Speaker 1: O'Neil Cruz and you know those kind of guys. Well,

837
00:41:14,880 --> 00:41:17,600
Speaker 1: you know that may stunt his development overall. Now they're

838
00:41:17,640 --> 00:41:21,279
Speaker 1: put them in the freaking outfield. I mean so, I mean,

839
00:41:22,120 --> 00:41:24,960
Speaker 1: could he have developed another year or so offensively and

840
00:41:25,000 --> 00:41:28,200
Speaker 1: then been thrown into the outfield in center field a

841
00:41:28,280 --> 00:41:30,759
Speaker 1: year ago or two years ago, I don't know, would

842
00:41:30,760 --> 00:41:34,040
Speaker 1: that made him a better player? Maybe? I just think

843
00:41:34,040 --> 00:41:36,319
Speaker 1: that there's I just think that, you know, it's not

844
00:41:36,600 --> 00:41:39,960
Speaker 1: it's not linear for everybody. Everybody handles things differently. I

845
00:41:40,000 --> 00:41:44,440
Speaker 1: think Chase Utley probably would have handled and somehow figured

846
00:41:44,480 --> 00:41:47,040
Speaker 1: it out. Ryan Howard maybe a little different, may have

847
00:41:47,040 --> 00:41:49,000
Speaker 1: taken a little bit longer. It's a power hitter who's

848
00:41:49,120 --> 00:41:52,240
Speaker 1: still find tuning his ability to make, you know, consistent contact,

849
00:41:52,360 --> 00:41:55,040
Speaker 1: who knows everybody's different.

850
00:41:55,960 --> 00:41:59,400
Speaker 2: Last one is from our buddy six though Reuben, he

851
00:41:59,520 --> 00:41:59,759
Speaker 2: likes to.

852
00:41:59,800 --> 00:42:01,480
Speaker 1: Need let him go.

853
00:42:02,520 --> 00:42:05,600
Speaker 2: He wants to know what is more fixable, the Phillies

854
00:42:05,680 --> 00:42:08,160
Speaker 2: offensive approach or your WiFi connection at home?

855
00:42:08,320 --> 00:42:12,680
Speaker 1: Great call, great ouse.

856
00:42:12,920 --> 00:42:17,320
Speaker 2: For people that listen, listen to the show only Ruben

857
00:42:17,440 --> 00:42:19,920
Speaker 2: is coming Crystal Clear. But if you watch us on YouTube,

858
00:42:20,000 --> 00:42:22,719
Speaker 2: Ruben's connection The past couple episodess.

859
00:42:22,200 --> 00:42:23,560
Speaker 1: Been a little spoty.

860
00:42:23,840 --> 00:42:25,680
Speaker 2: There was one shot where you were taking a sip

861
00:42:25,680 --> 00:42:27,440
Speaker 2: of coffee for about two and a half minutes while

862
00:42:27,440 --> 00:42:28,799
Speaker 2: you were completing your thoughts like this.

863
00:42:28,760 --> 00:42:34,319
Speaker 1: Guy's a Trilloquist, How do I do it? I think, Uh,

864
00:42:34,640 --> 00:42:37,160
Speaker 1: I think. I think that the Phillies are way more

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Speaker 1: fixable than my WiFi. I've got some issues. It's an

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Speaker 1: older place, you know. We've got to we're trying to

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Speaker 1: work through some walls with my extensions. I got to

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Speaker 1: hook on to the right uh you know, to the

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Speaker 1: right one. But uh yeah, that's way more. The funny

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Speaker 1: thing about uh, mister uh Sixto Lescano is that I

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Speaker 1: saw him the other day and even recognize him so bang,

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Speaker 1: did you? He means so much. He means so much

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Speaker 1: to me that I don't even recognize it.

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Speaker 4: Do you know the original Sixto Lescano?

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Speaker 1: Very well? It was his bad boy.

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Speaker 4: That's right.

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Speaker 1: It was nineteen eighty one. I think he played for

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Speaker 1: the Phillies and I was a bad boy, great, really

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Speaker 1: nice guy. God bless him. Did he pass? I don't know.

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Speaker 2: No, I don't think so.

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Speaker 1: But I don't think so. Why Why do I think you?

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Speaker 1: I don't know. Maybe I'm confusing him with Bodas, but.

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Speaker 2: I remember him from the days.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I remember he still lovesto man, and really he

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Speaker 1: had a little impact, like he kept really tight in

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Speaker 1: here with his and then he had some pop. Little dude.

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Speaker 1: He wasn't a big he had some good I mean

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Speaker 1: I could. I could tell you all the stances of

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Speaker 1: every player because I sat there right there, kneeled against

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Speaker 1: you know, kneel down next to him on that batter circle,

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Speaker 1: and just watch every guy. Pete Rose, uh, Mike Schmidt,

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Speaker 1: Larry Bow I could tell I could. I could do

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Speaker 1: shaking Bank McBride with a cross, Gary Maddix with the spread,

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Speaker 1: I mean, Bob Boom, I could do them all.

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Speaker 2: Six Dough was Yeah. Six Dough had a had a

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Speaker 2: real nice career, had one year with the Brewers in

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Speaker 2: at seventy nine. Yeah, you know what, there's not that's

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Speaker 2: one thing. Adam Mcalvy covers the Brewers for us at

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Speaker 2: MLB dot com. He had a really cool story mid

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Speaker 2: season about how you just don't see players have cool

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Speaker 2: batting stances anymore. You know, you don't have the Rod Crew,

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Speaker 2: you don't have the Cecil Cooper guys that lean way

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Speaker 2: back right, you don't have you know, Gary Sheffield with

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Speaker 2: the batwagle, Ben Ogilvy, Hadleton, you know, yeah, like Brian

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Speaker 2: was it Brian Downing who was like super wide open

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Speaker 2: right way way way open, almost facing that. You know,

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Speaker 2: you don't have the gain. Craig Council is a total.

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Speaker 1: Craig Council was awesome, total weirdos going. Yeah, I mean

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Speaker 1: it's weird man. You don't have that anymore.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, that's it's more. Give me some swag, yeah, yeah,

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Speaker 2: some crazy crazy swings.

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Speaker 1: You can't really they all have to get to the

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Speaker 1: same spot eventually.

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Speaker 3: But the musical with the narrow legs and you know,

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Speaker 3: and remember Tony Bautista.

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Speaker 1: Tony about used to be wide opening and dip but

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Speaker 1: he got down and but you know, at some point

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Speaker 1: he had to get there. Otherwise if he didn't get there,

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Speaker 1: he ain't got no chance. Yeah, it's a chef chef.

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Speaker 1: How about how about how about Julio Franco's bat? You

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Speaker 1: can see his badhead.

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Speaker 4: I love the story. Your your dad told me a story.

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Speaker 3: So he signed Julio Franco and Wan some well on

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Speaker 3: the same day, and they bring Julio Franco. Ruben Senior

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Speaker 3: told me the story they bring they bring them over

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Speaker 3: to the States and they bring uh, Julio Franco. I

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Speaker 3: guess the cliar water And Granny Hamner was the was

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Speaker 3: the hitting instructor, right, And Ruben Senior telling you know,

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Speaker 3: Franco's doing this, And Ruben Senior.

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Speaker 4: Tells Granny, Granny Hamner, Granny, don't touch him. He won

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Speaker 4: a batting title right in the American League.

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Speaker 2: Right, don't mess with sixty eight.

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Speaker 1: M exactly right or seventy.

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Speaker 2: It's a great spot to end. Guys, that was fun.

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Speaker 2: Thanks for all the questions. We probably have about thirty

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Speaker 2: more that we just couldn't get to. We can't keep

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Speaker 2: you on here all day, but Ruben, you're in Secaucus.

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Speaker 2: Enjoy your stint at MLB Network this afternoon. Jim Jim

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Speaker 2: in an undisclosed location.

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Speaker 4: The bat gave.

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Speaker 1: Some bat people.

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Speaker 2: We'll talk to you guys later.

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Speaker 4: Smelling later, boys you Jim.

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