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Speaker 1: Oh, what's up? Good morning to you. Hope your Monday

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Speaker 1: is off to a great start, all right, Jeff, So

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Speaker 1: I would say, I don't know if this is a

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Speaker 1: hot take or a hot question. Right, this is from

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Speaker 1: Emmanuel Lacho. Think it does a great job on FS

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Speaker 1: one's the facility. So he brought up, hey, has the

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Speaker 1: Super Bowl drought for the Kansas City Chiefs started? There

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Speaker 1: was a drought with Tom Brady went about a decade

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Speaker 1: between Super Bowl rings, and so Acho was wondering out loud,

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Speaker 1: if anything, or at least posing the question, is this

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Speaker 1: the same sort of thing that we're going to see

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Speaker 1: from Patrick Mahomes and the Chiefs. Now we do have

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Speaker 1: the clip. I think the extended version is worth your time.

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Speaker 1: It's only a minute here, but he explains the why

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Speaker 1: he thinks this might be a thing for Mahomes and

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Speaker 1: the Chiefs. Check it out.

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Speaker 2: Has the Super Bowl drought for the Kansas City Chiefs started?

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Speaker 2: Here's why I suggest that we all forget get in

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Speaker 2: the midst of praising Tom Brady, which we absolutely should.

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Speaker 2: The Patriots didn't win Super Bowl for ten years from

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Speaker 2: two thousand and four to twenty fourteen, they did not

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Speaker 2: win a Championship. They won three ten year break three.

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Speaker 2: Patrick Mahomes has already won his three. Are we in

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Speaker 2: the midst of his ten year hiatus. Why I'm suggesting

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Speaker 2: that is the Eagles from a roster perspective are way, way, way,

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Speaker 2: way way better than the Kansas City Chiefs. The Baltimore

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Speaker 2: Ravens from a roster perspective.

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Speaker 3: Are way, way way better than the Kansas City Chiefs.

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Speaker 2: The Buffalo Bills from a roster perspective are not way

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Speaker 2: better than the Kansas City Chiefs, but they are starting

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Speaker 2: to close the gap.

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Speaker 3: The Chargers, they are up and coming.

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Speaker 2: Jim Harbaugh in his second year with the San Francisco

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Speaker 2: forty nine Ers went to the Super Bowl. It's Jim

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Speaker 2: Harbaugh second year with the Los Angeles Chargers.

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Speaker 4: Who knows what can happen?

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Speaker 2: Is has the drought begun for the Kansas City Chiefs

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Speaker 2: and has everybody just afraid to say it because it

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Speaker 2: is sacrilegious to talk about Patrick Mahomes And it's sacrilegious

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Speaker 2: to talk about Andy Reid has.

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Speaker 3: A drought with that. Now.

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Speaker 1: I do like the end part that was cut off there.

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Speaker 1: I like Will Blackman his response to it. It's only

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Speaker 1: like a second check it out.

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Speaker 4: Hell, no, this is crazy.

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Speaker 1: He's not buying it, not buying the Chiefs ten year drought.

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Speaker 1: Are you not buying this as well? Jeff?

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Speaker 3: Well, the Chiefs just playing a Super Bowl, so the

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Speaker 3: drought hasn't even begun yet. So it feels early to

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Speaker 3: declare a Super Bowl drought without actually happening, Right, I mean,

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Speaker 3: I get if they had it was a couple of

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Speaker 3: years removed from a super Bowl. They just played in

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Speaker 3: one last season. Tom Brady's Patriots did not play in

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Speaker 3: Super Bowl from the last one they won, right in

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Speaker 3: four to seven, right where they ended up losing to

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Speaker 3: the Giants and lost again and eleven to the Giants,

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Speaker 3: Right that was, and then one and fourteen again.

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Speaker 5: Right.

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Speaker 3: I think people look at the Super Bowl and really

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Speaker 3: really in general standalone games, and often we have it

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Speaker 3: to stew on for a while and we overcomplicate our

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Speaker 3: analysis of it, right because it's the last game we

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Speaker 3: saw and the Egles thoroughly dominated the Chiefs, absolutely did.

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Speaker 3: But it was just one game, right in the NFL.

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Speaker 3: One game, and we know that year to year the

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Speaker 3: NFL is different league, Right, what happens in one year

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Speaker 3: is not certainly happened in the next season. But let's

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Speaker 3: look at the Chiefs and think about what they've done

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Speaker 3: over these years, and they're one of the teams you

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Speaker 3: can rely on. Right, we know every year they're going

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Speaker 3: to be one of the best and then one of

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Speaker 3: the best because Mahomes is really good, as we know,

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Speaker 3: and I think he'll use last year's motivation. A lot

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Speaker 3: of people are saying Mahomes is not the player he

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Speaker 3: used to be. The deep passing is not there, and

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Speaker 3: there's a decline coming at some point. Well, probably the

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Speaker 3: deep passing was not there last season because the roster

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Speaker 3: was not good on that side of the ball. Right,

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Speaker 3: Travis Kelce is entering year whatever thirteen, and even entering

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Speaker 3: last season, my thought about his play was confirmed in

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Speaker 3: the first three weeks. I thought he was going to

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Speaker 3: be like late Rob Gronkowski, if you remember Rob right

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Speaker 3: who just sort of was on the roster with Tampa Bay,

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Speaker 3: but just was there for the big games, the big moment.

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Speaker 3: He showed up the rest of the season, didn't didn't

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Speaker 3: know he existed. That's what I thought. The Chief's planning

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Speaker 3: hurt in week four, and then Mahomes looks around and

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Speaker 3: on offense it's Travis Kelcey rookie, Xavier Worthy yea, and dudes,

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Speaker 3: Race she Rice healthy, Hollywood Brown healthy. It's a much

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Speaker 3: better offense. They fix the offense line issues, so they're

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Speaker 3: going to be in my opinion, the roster is better

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Speaker 3: than last season. So to say they're going to decline,

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Speaker 3: and they might. And Ocho made the point. By the roster, right,

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Speaker 3: the Baltimore roster, the Buffalo roster, those teams can't be

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Speaker 3: Chiefs in the post the matter of the roster, right like,

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Speaker 3: so I Baltimore and Buffalo I think are gonna be good.

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Speaker 3: I think, and Buffalo to me will be the one seed.

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Speaker 3: They gotta prove they could beat Kansas City because no

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Speaker 3: matter what roster the Chiefs show up with the postseason,

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Speaker 3: they can't beat the Chiefs. Brian so till someone actually

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Speaker 3: beats him, and that one team has been the Bengals,

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Speaker 3: by the way, who have done it consistently. Unless you

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Speaker 3: can beat a team consistently, I can't say that other

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Speaker 3: team is in decline. So I get we're trying to

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Speaker 3: knock the Chiefs off. At some point, it's born to

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Speaker 3: talk about them all the time. I'm with the idea

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Speaker 3: of that, but until someone does it, I can't say

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Speaker 3: the Chiefs are dead right now.

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Speaker 1: No, I can't either. And the first part when he's

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Speaker 1: explaining it, where I'm like, oh, I raise my hand.

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Speaker 1: I got a question here. Do you agree with this

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Speaker 1: that the Eagles and the Ravens are way, way, way,

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Speaker 1: way way better from a roster perspective than the Chiefs.

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Speaker 1: I don't agree with that.

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Speaker 3: Well, I mean, the Chiefs are better a quarterback in

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Speaker 3: the Eagles. Yeah, it's probably about it though, positionwise, right,

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Speaker 3: But they're not that. I mean they're not that. It's

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Speaker 3: not that it's not way way, way, way way. But

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Speaker 3: now thinking about the Chiefs though, is that they overcome

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Speaker 3: roster deficiencies and it's really essentially three ways right, which

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Speaker 3: on defense they're just they're very sound on defense, that

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Speaker 3: they have their style of play, and they don't make money,

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Speaker 3: and there is a value to this. I say, it's

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Speaker 3: all time in sports man, there's a value in not

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Speaker 3: losing games, right, Yeah, And the Chiefs don't lose games.

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Speaker 5: Now.

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Speaker 3: They might play sloppy at times, but they don't a

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Speaker 3: lot of teams. You watch bad football. We watched bad

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Speaker 3: bet on bad football unt all the time. The bad

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Speaker 3: making Chiefs don't do stuff like that.

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Speaker 1: Well, the thing with the Eagles is they've lost a lot.

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Speaker 1: They lost a lot of players, Like one, they lost

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Speaker 1: their offensive coordinator, Kellen Moore now the head coach with

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Speaker 1: the Saints. They lost eight key members of their defense.

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Speaker 1: Like some of these guys that contributed in a big way,

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Speaker 1: that's a lot of talent that is not there. So

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Speaker 1: I don't think that the roster is leaps and bounds

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Speaker 1: better than the Chiefs. The Chiefs they get Rushie Rice

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Speaker 1: and then you're talking about their defense was fourth in

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Speaker 1: right there. And also i'd throw this out there too.

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Speaker 1: You think about the wear and tear of Saquon Barclay.

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Speaker 1: four hundred plus carries. And then you add all the

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Speaker 1: a ton of wear and tear. And you know, there

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Speaker 1: it happens a lot. So imagine if Saquon Barkley, due

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Speaker 1: Then what you like this idea that the Philly roster

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Speaker 1: leaps and bounds better. The Ravens are ninth in scoring defense,

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Speaker 1: are the Ravens just separating themselves? Like clearly way ahead

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Speaker 1: of the Chiefs roster Winds. I don't buy that.

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Speaker 3: I buy the Eagles a little bit. I just don't

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Speaker 3: buy the Ravens look at off defensively. Defensively, they're not

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Speaker 3: the same the same one. Barkeley discussion is really interesting

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Speaker 3: because I make a habit of wagering on running backs

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Speaker 3: the most part they do. Injuries play a big factor

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Speaker 3: basically betting on a guy to get hurt. That's basically

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Speaker 3: what you're betting on, right, because you know, if they

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Speaker 3: stay healthy, Barkley probably goes over. But the wear and

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Speaker 3: hurt a lot. Brian and I haven't done the wager.

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Speaker 3: I haven't wager on Barkley's under yet. I am because

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Speaker 3: I think that I can look like a fool if

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Speaker 3: he stays healthy all season. But you do have to

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Speaker 3: wonder a little bit about that and do they tailor

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Speaker 3: think it's it's worth discussing a little bit more so.

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Speaker 3: Keller Moore is gone the offense coordinator, and they've had

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Speaker 3: a lot of coordinator change on offense under under Hurts.

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Speaker 3: And it's not hurts fault at all. Right, coaches have

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Speaker 3: gone head coaching jobs. You can't blame. You can't blame

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Speaker 3: for that, but they just at some point the brain

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Speaker 3: drain just becomes too much. And last year's offense really

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Speaker 3: functioned well and was was well called, and it took

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Speaker 3: a little bit time to figure out what they wanted

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Speaker 3: to be. Is it doesn't any new coordinator, but how

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Speaker 3: many times can they keep keep going through the coordinator

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Speaker 3: change and the offense be fine? That's I'm concerned about that.

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Speaker 3: Just you know they're gonna hit the home run again

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Speaker 3: for the third straight year, third straight OC, and I

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Speaker 3: I'm terribly concerned about just another OC for another season.

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Speaker 3: It's it's very rare to have this much change at

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Speaker 3: that position each it's a third year in a row,

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Speaker 3: I believe, right, with a new office coordinator, and so

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Speaker 3: I mean they played in seven. They played in seven

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Speaker 3: The Chiefs record close games is because they stop trying

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Speaker 1: No, that's true, and I think those instances you forget

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Speaker 1: in betting terms. Jeff, are you taking the Chiefs to

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Speaker 3: I would do that as well. I mean, look, the

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Speaker 3: I tell you what. The Chiefs right now to win

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Speaker 3: is Oh my gosh, I have wager on that already. Absolutely,

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Speaker 3: that's that's the lowest number you've gotten in seven years,

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Speaker 1: I'm just trying not to parlay it with everything else.

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Speaker 3: It's a good like you, you know, Bill's Chiefs. I

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Speaker 1: Sorry, it's like it's like, oh gosh, my fin's gonna

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Speaker 1: You know, like, yeah, tie up your money for good? Yeah,

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Speaker 1: Coop, justin Cooper producing today, he sent me a video

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Speaker 1: is is you know the actor Jason Momoa, Jeff Familiar.

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Speaker 1: He was at a Pantera concert. Oh wow, yeah, and

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Speaker 3: Very nice. Yeah, I'm not going to be there, but

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Speaker 3: I know. My my college roommate was my size, Jake

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Speaker 3: I've seen it. I've seen it before.

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Speaker 3: plan and most is two years. Let's just have you

431
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Speaker 3: honest for two more years, instead of just saying, look, man,

432
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Speaker 3: we get this for him, we get that for him,

433
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Speaker 3: let's do that now. So I think we are an agreement.

434
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Speaker 3: It's a mistake for the Bucks to go this direction

435
00:22:26,600 --> 00:22:29,800
Speaker 3: short term gain and in a couple of years, they're

436
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Speaker 3: putting off the inevitable, which is their team will not

437
00:22:32,359 --> 00:22:34,360
Speaker 3: have you honest in a few years and will look

438
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Speaker 3: just much different.

439
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Speaker 1: Right. And that's the thing, man is I get it.

440
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Speaker 1: Like the fan base loves Giannis. A lot of fan

441
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Speaker 1: bases love the star players, especially when they were nothing

442
00:22:45,080 --> 00:22:48,920
Speaker 1: before the star got there. And the Bucks had some

443
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Speaker 1: lean or awful years before Yannis was there. They had

444
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Speaker 1: a mixture of both, So I get that they don't.

445
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Speaker 1: That's scary. Life without Yiannis is very scary. But he

446
00:23:00,520 --> 00:23:05,240
Speaker 1: is an NBA superstar who's still playing at an MVP level. Yeah,

447
00:23:05,600 --> 00:23:09,640
Speaker 1: you can completely reset your franchise and be better off

448
00:23:09,640 --> 00:23:13,520
Speaker 1: for the future. They don't have draft picks, they don't

449
00:23:13,560 --> 00:23:18,399
Speaker 1: have any maneuverability, they're capped out, and they're still losing

450
00:23:18,400 --> 00:23:20,639
Speaker 1: in the first round each of the last three years.

451
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Speaker 1: So you got to use your main asset and reshape

452
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Speaker 1: your entire franchise. Think about the Celtics, like the Celtics

453
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Speaker 1: adorre Celtic fans adored Paul Pierce and Kevin Garnett. They

454
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Speaker 1: hadn't won a championship in over two decades, and they

455
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Speaker 1: finally won one with those guys as the Stars, and

456
00:23:39,440 --> 00:23:42,879
Speaker 1: the Celtics dealt them. They traded them and they were

457
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Speaker 1: able to get Tatum and Brown among other assets out

458
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Speaker 1: of that trade. Out of that deal. I know Bucks fans,

459
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Speaker 1: they go kicking and screaming into the night if the

460
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Speaker 1: Bucks made the hard decision and traded Giannis. But they

461
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Speaker 1: would come around if all of a sudden, those draft

462
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Speaker 1: picks and that young talent turned into a title contender

463
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Speaker 1: and a title winner, which has happened with the newer

464
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Speaker 1: Celtics with Tatum and Brown. So it's not like they're

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Speaker 1: still gonna be like I still wanted old Paul Pierce

466
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Speaker 1: an old kge like they're gonna come around and be fine.

467
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Speaker 1: You just and imagine the worst case scenario, Jeff is

468
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Speaker 1: if they don't make the tough decision, Giannis agrees to stay,

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Speaker 1: and then Giannis gets hurt. He's had a calf injury before.

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Speaker 1: What if he blows his achilles? Then what then? What

471
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Speaker 1: do you have? You just had that with Dame and

472
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Speaker 1: you bought him out. Now you don't have a tradable

473
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Speaker 1: asset where you're gonna get top dollar. You're gambling way

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Speaker 1: too much by keeping him.

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Speaker 3: I agree and again that the tough decisions in sports,

476
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Speaker 3: you know, are these That's why you get paid the

477
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Speaker 3: big bucks to be a general manager. I do wonder

478
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Speaker 3: how much you they have new ownership down Milwaukee. I

479
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Speaker 3: do wonder how much owners play a role all this. Right,

480
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Speaker 3: they don't sign off on day and a stuff, and

481
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Speaker 3: they sign off on big superstars and what to do

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Speaker 3: with them. I do wonder if a new ownership was like,

483
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Speaker 3: you have to keep you honest, which is fair. I mean,

484
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Speaker 3: that's their prerogative, they can do that. But I do

485
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Speaker 3: wonder how much that was a discussion this offseason, right

486
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Speaker 3: Brian of like, yeah, Hey, with new ownership, we got

487
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Speaker 3: to keep you, honest, because you know, you don't want

488
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Speaker 3: to come in right away and gut the team, right,

489
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Speaker 3: But now you're in a situation where you can't really

490
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Speaker 3: do it after this season anyway, So you're kind of stuck,

491
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Speaker 3: you know, where you are the last a couple of

492
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Speaker 3: seasons with this roster, with Miles Turner, with with now

493
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Speaker 3: Jannis And how much do you think the backlash to

494
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Speaker 3: the Luca trade, which is it would be a much

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Speaker 3: different trade than trading Yannis plays a role. I mean,

496
00:25:34,760 --> 00:25:39,119
Speaker 3: the backlash was so was so harsh, But again, different situations, right,

497
00:25:39,160 --> 00:25:44,360
Speaker 3: Luca still very young, how to win a championship. Jannis

498
00:25:44,400 --> 00:25:46,960
Speaker 3: has played a lot of basketball, he has won a championship.

499
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Speaker 3: There's still a lot of basketball left in him. But

500
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Speaker 3: he is getting older and his style of play is

501
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Speaker 3: very physical. It's a very physical style of play, right,

502
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Speaker 3: and so different situations, But you know, the backlash was

503
00:25:56,480 --> 00:25:58,080
Speaker 3: so super Maybe if they trade honest they got the

504
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Speaker 3: first pick of the draft next year, that actually could

505
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Speaker 3: be to call at him solver for that is that

506
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Speaker 3: the way it works, the frozen, the frozen envelope is

507
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Speaker 3: vulnerable for them. I still kick it over. How casually

508
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Speaker 3: we dismissed the MAVs having the first pick. That would

509
00:26:14,640 --> 00:26:17,440
Speaker 3: be like the Bengals, right, who were the best team

510
00:26:17,480 --> 00:26:19,680
Speaker 3: to never to never make the postseason last season, the

511
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Speaker 3: best team ever to have the playoff team. However, the

512
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Speaker 3: first pick of the draft. You'd be like, what, I'm there,

513
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Speaker 3: the first pick in the draft for it's the MAVs,

514
00:26:27,040 --> 00:26:32,040
Speaker 3: the mass guys, Dallas Mavericks won a playing game. They

515
00:26:32,119 --> 00:26:35,520
Speaker 3: won like one quote unuote playoff game essentially, and you

516
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Speaker 3: got the first pick of the draft. It's absolutely ludicrous.

517
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Speaker 3: Maybe if the Bucks had called out him, sober up

518
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Speaker 3: and made a deal like hey, we'll track Yourns on

519
00:26:43,200 --> 00:26:44,879
Speaker 3: draft that if we get the first pick in the draft.

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Speaker 3: It's very short sighted. It reminds you what the Steelers

521
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Speaker 3: keep doing, Brian, which is refusing to acknowledge the heart

522
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Speaker 3: truth of where they are as a franchise. The best

523
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Speaker 3: franchises are always the ones that are able to pivot

524
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Speaker 3: to move quickly. And the Bucks again, I understan, I

525
00:27:00,520 --> 00:27:03,360
Speaker 3: want to keep a superstar, but they're doing the same

526
00:27:03,359 --> 00:27:05,199
Speaker 3: thing over and over again, which is which you know,

527
00:27:05,359 --> 00:27:07,159
Speaker 3: it's a lunatic, right, like doing the same thing over

528
00:27:07,200 --> 00:27:11,000
Speaker 3: and over again. You know, it's it's lunacy. So the

529
00:27:11,000 --> 00:27:13,080
Speaker 3: tough decision has to be made, and they made decision

530
00:27:13,119 --> 00:27:13,639
Speaker 3: that was easy.

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Speaker 1: Yeah they did. And a lot of times you're worse

532
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Speaker 1: off for making the easy decision alue franchise it you

533
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Speaker 1: hit on something interesting. Is there a portion of this

534
00:27:24,200 --> 00:27:27,159
Speaker 1: where they're they're looking at the Dallas Mavericks and like

535
00:27:27,240 --> 00:27:32,440
Speaker 1: oof man, Nico Harrison is getting roasted right now? Does

536
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Speaker 1: that make a GM a little bit more reluctant to

537
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Speaker 1: make a trade or ownership a little more reluctant? Maybe?

538
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Speaker 1: I mean maybe it plays a little babe.

539
00:27:41,160 --> 00:27:42,440
Speaker 3: Again though right like that.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, definitely different. But you know, it's an interesting thought.

541
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Speaker 1: Is it something that maybe is in the back of

542
00:27:48,400 --> 00:27:51,440
Speaker 1: your head or plays a minor role, not the ultimate role.

543
00:27:51,680 --> 00:27:54,000
Speaker 1: But the other thing is, man, that's the tough part

544
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Speaker 1: of being a GM. Let's just say and I don't

545
00:27:56,440 --> 00:27:58,280
Speaker 1: believe this is the case, but let's just say it is.

546
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Speaker 1: Imagine if the GM is like, all right, it's staring

547
00:28:01,800 --> 00:28:04,840
Speaker 1: at me in the face. I have to reset the franchise,

548
00:28:04,920 --> 00:28:06,920
Speaker 1: I have to trade Gianness, I have to do it,

549
00:28:07,200 --> 00:28:10,680
Speaker 1: and ownership's like you will not do that. You can't

550
00:28:11,240 --> 00:28:14,520
Speaker 1: go out publicly and be like you're a press conference

551
00:28:14,560 --> 00:28:16,760
Speaker 1: setting like I would. I need to trade them, but

552
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Speaker 1: ownership won't let me. Like you just have to sit

553
00:28:19,080 --> 00:28:21,480
Speaker 1: there and act like in your idea. That's what you

554
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Speaker 1: get paid for. That's that's rough, man. If you're not

555
00:28:24,440 --> 00:28:26,200
Speaker 1: signing off on it and you have to act as

556
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Speaker 1: if you are, I'd be like, you know, it's like

557
00:28:29,960 --> 00:28:33,320
Speaker 1: a hosted video, like I'm blinking five times, like this

558
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Speaker 1: is not my idea. I'm hoping people can read between

559
00:28:36,680 --> 00:28:39,320
Speaker 1: the lines. You know, I couldn't keep a straight face

560
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Speaker 1: like that.

561
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Speaker 3: But that's how they get paid a lot of money.

562
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Speaker 1: That's right.

563
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Speaker 3: And you know, I am always of the opinion that

564
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Speaker 3: ownership should stay out of personal decisions, except I think

565
00:28:49,520 --> 00:28:51,280
Speaker 3: they do have the right when it comes to these

566
00:28:51,280 --> 00:28:54,880
Speaker 3: superstars to have a say. But the best owners, the

567
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Speaker 3: best owners always sort of let their people they hired decisions.

568
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Speaker 3: You know, you as an owner, you're you're not you know,

569
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Speaker 3: for NFL term, you're not grinding the film right, you're

570
00:29:07,120 --> 00:29:09,600
Speaker 3: not paying attention to to to the sport like that.

571
00:29:10,240 --> 00:29:13,440
Speaker 3: And if you're a good owner, you're probably successful in business.

572
00:29:13,440 --> 00:29:16,400
Speaker 3: If you understand how important is to hire people you trust, right,

573
00:29:16,960 --> 00:29:20,120
Speaker 3: And if you're hiring a general manager or personnel guy,

574
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Speaker 3: you hired them to do their job, and their job

575
00:29:23,200 --> 00:29:27,920
Speaker 3: might be difficult decisions, and the best owners tend to

576
00:29:28,000 --> 00:29:32,240
Speaker 3: rely on those on those they trust, right, they hired

577
00:29:32,280 --> 00:29:35,840
Speaker 3: them to make those decisions for them. And if if

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Speaker 3: the general manager and were walking them up to them

579
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Speaker 3: and said, hey, man, you know, I think it's best

580
00:29:39,920 --> 00:29:42,719
Speaker 3: to trade be honest, Yeah, ownership would take a hit.

581
00:29:42,760 --> 00:29:44,600
Speaker 3: They wouldn't as many fans in the stands, they wouldn't

582
00:29:44,600 --> 00:29:46,920
Speaker 3: make as much money, but they would be a better

583
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Speaker 3: team in the end, most likely five six, seven years

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Speaker 3: from now, which again you have to think about the

585
00:29:51,040 --> 00:29:53,520
Speaker 3: short term in the long term. And if ownership really

586
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Speaker 3: said to them, hey, we're we're out. We're out on

587
00:29:57,080 --> 00:30:00,720
Speaker 3: this idea. You know, it's just not it's it's it's

588
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Speaker 3: just not the only owner I think that they actually,

589
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Speaker 3: you know, I mean it should be a play basketball.

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Speaker 3: I think might be able to say, like, hey, you know,

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Speaker 3: I have a thought on this. Otherwise, like why would

592
00:30:11,480 --> 00:30:13,440
Speaker 3: the Bucks new Bucks? It's a rod it's part he's

593
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Speaker 3: a baseball player.

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Speaker 1: Well, I know some of these ownership guys, it's like,

595
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Speaker 1: you made your fortune in real estate, What the hell

596
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Speaker 1: do you know about this player? Like really, no, you know, I'll.

597
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Speaker 3: Give you an example in in my in my in

598
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Speaker 3: my town in Charlotte. So about So, David Tepper owns

599
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Speaker 3: the Panthers, and he's a hedge fund guy, right, and

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Speaker 3: I think he was way too hands on for the

601
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Speaker 3: first six years. And now I think very clearly he's

602
00:30:41,080 --> 00:30:45,080
Speaker 3: letting Dan Morgan, the drum Measuer, do his job because

603
00:30:45,080 --> 00:30:49,600
Speaker 3: the team just looks better, it's it's constructed better. And really,

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Speaker 3: I know these owners, it's their money, it's their baby.

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Speaker 3: They want. But you've hired people to do their job,

606
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Speaker 3: and if you let them do their job right, you're

607
00:31:00,200 --> 00:31:02,440
Speaker 3: gonna have more success. And you see all the time,

608
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Speaker 3: I mean, look what you know, Look the Chiefs let

609
00:31:05,560 --> 00:31:08,800
Speaker 3: let Andy Reid and John Dorsey make the pad Mahomes decision.

610
00:31:08,880 --> 00:31:11,600
Speaker 3: Alex Smith. The Chiefs just been with Alex Smith. He's

611
00:31:11,600 --> 00:31:13,840
Speaker 3: gone on the plaffs every year, absolutely, and just hosted

612
00:31:13,840 --> 00:31:17,000
Speaker 3: a playoff game every third year and and just gone

613
00:31:17,040 --> 00:31:20,120
Speaker 3: and just made money that way. But they trusted themselves,

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Speaker 3: they trusted their people, the Eagles, right, I mean, you know,

615
00:31:23,240 --> 00:31:25,200
Speaker 3: Lurie could have been like, we're not getting rid of

616
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Speaker 3: Carson Wentz. Never do that. We're not doing that, and

617
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Speaker 3: they would have been stuck with with Carson Wentz. To

618
00:31:29,600 --> 00:31:32,200
Speaker 3: Jalen Hurts, you got to let your front office people

619
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Speaker 3: do their job.

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Speaker 1: All right. So this was putting a bow on it.

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Speaker 1: I love this audio from Brian Windhorst on ESPN. If

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Speaker 1: you're asking me, do I think the Bucks can put

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Speaker 1: a team together that compete to win the Eastern Conference?

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00:31:44,280 --> 00:31:44,800
Speaker 5: I do not.

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00:31:47,040 --> 00:31:50,400
Speaker 1: Pretty short and simple, right, I like that right to

626
00:31:50,440 --> 00:31:52,440
Speaker 1: the point. No, I do not. And if that's the case,

627
00:31:52,960 --> 00:31:55,840
Speaker 1: you gotta freaking pivot. You gotta go in a different direction,

628
00:31:56,080 --> 00:31:58,640
Speaker 1: just like, ah, but we'll make some cash, right, No,

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Speaker 1: it's not good enough. Here's some other audio for you, Jeff.

630
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Speaker 1: This was audio of the Nathan's hot dog eating contest

631
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Speaker 1: on the fourth of July, complements of ESPN.

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Speaker 7: Check this out with seventy point five hot dogs and

633
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Speaker 7: buns in ten minutes, the Nathan's famous fourth of July

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Speaker 7: Champion of the World Joey.

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Speaker 1: Jeff, you know, I will say, like the coverage, I

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Speaker 1: haven't seen it live. It's on very early.

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Speaker 3: You know most of New Eastern very very.

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Speaker 1: Early West Coast time. Jeff, we're talking like it.

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Speaker 3: Ended up not starting because I was on the radio,

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Speaker 3: and starts till like twelve forty five Easter just when

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Speaker 3: the first hot dog was.

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Speaker 1: So before ten o'clock you're telling me on the that's

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Speaker 1: very early West Coast time.

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Speaker 3: I know you have a different suit schedule than I think.

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Speaker 3: But because you're like you're texting me like the group text,

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Speaker 3: you're like playing the poker at at four am on

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Speaker 3: the Pacific. I bet the over because I'm American. On

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Speaker 3: Joey oh Man, you get hooked a hot dog under

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Speaker 3: everyone went under by the way, like all the everybody.

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Speaker 1: Yeah right. But that's the thing though, that's I think

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Speaker 1: they do a great job with the coverage. I just

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Speaker 1: catch the highlights because I'm not this not an NFL game.

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Speaker 1: I'm not waking up for this thing, you know. But

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Speaker 1: I catch the highlights. And the announcer guy is awesome.

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Speaker 1: I don't know his name, but it's all just tongue

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Speaker 1: in cheek, you know, and he's like he was graced

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Speaker 1: by the gods and the he's just making stuff up

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Speaker 1: on the fly pretty much. But the thing is, it's amazing.

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Speaker 1: He ate seventy and a half hot dogs and buns

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Speaker 1: in ten minutes. That's amazing. And it's like we just

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Speaker 1: kind of like joke around, like.

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Speaker 3: Eh, look at him.

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Speaker 1: He's doing this thing that is astounding that anyone can

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Speaker 1: eat that much in that short of a period of time.

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Speaker 1: That's insane to me.

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Speaker 3: I watch it every year, but it is in his

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Speaker 3: supremely gross. There's no it is. It is a It

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Speaker 3: makes my stomach hurt. It makes me just like feel

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Speaker 3: ill watching him do it. But you have to watch

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Speaker 3: because it's it's a Fourth of July tradition obviously, and

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Speaker 3: it's just one of those things that you can't look

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Speaker 3: away from. There was a I saw a video too

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Speaker 3: of a guy who drank like a gallon of lemonade

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Speaker 3: in twenty one seconds or some insane number like that.

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Speaker 3: They have eating They have a major league eating as

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Speaker 3: a as a league, and they have rankings and Joe

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Speaker 3: Justin's obviously number one. If you click on his profile,

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Speaker 3: it lists all the records that he has for things

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Speaker 3: he's eaten. And Brian, how many eggs do you think

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Speaker 3: hardboll eggs you think Joe just has eaten in eight minutes.

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Speaker 1: Oh gosh, I'm sure something insane. If he's putting down

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Speaker 1: seventy and a half hot dogs, I'll put it somewhere

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Speaker 1: around and I'll say sixty five couple of minutes off.

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Speaker 3: One hundred and forty one hard bulldogs eight minutes.

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Speaker 1: That's insane.

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Speaker 3: Uh, shrimp wantons three and ninety in eight minutes.

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Speaker 1: I don't understand. That's the funny thing, Jeff. I'm literally

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Speaker 1: the slowest eater on the face of the earth. If

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Speaker 1: they had a competitive eating contest, was giving an honest effort, yes,

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Speaker 1: I would beat anybody in terms of being the slowest.

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Speaker 1: I could maybe in ten minutes. To hot dog getting contests,

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Speaker 1: I could maybe get through like three quarters of a

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Speaker 1: hot dog. With the bun, I couldn't even do one.

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Speaker 1: I don't know. I just I have to chew my

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Speaker 1: food up so much or then I can just, you know,

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Speaker 1: do the rest. I don't know why, And then I

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Speaker 1: just lose focus. I've been eating for so long and

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Speaker 1: chewing so much. Did I just start watching this show

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Speaker 1: or whatever, reading this thing, and then it just takes

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Speaker 1: even longer. It's it's obnoxious, purely not my problem. I Uh,

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Speaker 1: I wish I could. I wish I could some of

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Speaker 1: my friends just inhale their food. I wish I can't.

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Speaker 1: All Right, come it up next, Which impressive record will

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Speaker 1: be broken first? He's Jeff Schwartz. I'm Brian. Now we're

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Speaker 1: in for two pros and a cup of joe right

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Speaker 1: here on Fox Sports Radio.

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Speaker 4: Fox Sports Radio has the best sports talk lineup in

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Speaker 4: the nation. Catch all of our shows at foxsports Radio

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Speaker 4: listen live.

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Speaker 1: He's Jeff Schwartz. I'm Brian. No, we're in for two

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Speaker 1: pros and a cup of joe right here on Fox

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Speaker 1: Sports Radio. Okay, Jeff, so ball always on the brain, right,

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Speaker 1: football on the brain. I got a question for you.

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Speaker 1: Which NFL record do you think will be broken first?

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Speaker 1: And later on I'll give you the reason why I

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Speaker 1: even thought about this, but it doesn't matter right now.

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Speaker 1: Do you think this single season touchdown catch record will

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Speaker 1: be broken first? Or do you think this single season

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Speaker 1: sack record will be broken first? So, Randy Moss has

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Speaker 1: the single season touchdown catch record. That's twenty three touchdown grabs.

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Speaker 1: He had that in the seven season when they went

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Speaker 1: undefeated those Patriots, and then the sack record single season

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Speaker 1: Michael Strahan twenty two and a half sacks in one

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Speaker 1: and also TJ. Watt don't forget about that twenty two

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Speaker 1: and a half sacks in twenty twenty one. So they

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Speaker 1: both they share it. So which do you think is

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Speaker 1: gonna be broken? First? You think someone's getting the twenty

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Speaker 1: four touchdown grabs or someone's getting twenty three sacks in

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Speaker 1: a season.

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Speaker 3: I think sacks. I think sai Remember Justin Justin Houston

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Speaker 3: at twenty two in twenty fourteen. Wow, he was close.

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Speaker 3: You look at some of these guys eighteen, nineteen twenty,

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Speaker 3: I mean they're they're they're up there. Touchdown one just

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Speaker 3: feels well the way the NFL's played now, and it's

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Speaker 3: it feels so unlikely. Dude. These quarterbacks take away touchdowns

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Speaker 3: for their wide receivers with their legs, which is not

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Speaker 3: a bad thing if you look at for this, just

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Speaker 3: you know, like you're Tom Brady was only throwing the

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Speaker 3: ball to get, you know, to get touchdowns. All these

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Speaker 3: quarterbacks now you take away five touchdowns a year by

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Speaker 3: running the football right, by running it in the game

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Speaker 3: is moving more towards the running back a little bit. Right,

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Speaker 3: it's moving back in that direction a little bit. So

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Speaker 3: I think there's less opportunities. Sometimes I just don't. I

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Speaker 3: don't think that that touchdown record the MOSC one is

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Speaker 3: in any danger whatsoever.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm with you, because listen, it's passing league, so

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Speaker 1: much more opportunities for a great pass rusher to accumulate

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Speaker 1: those sacks. And then the other thing we always talk

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Speaker 1: about this with the running backs, which is we no

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Speaker 1: longer have those bell cow running backs, right, the running

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Speaker 1: backs that just get the lion's share of the carries.

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Speaker 1: Very rarely we do. We just had Saquon bar Yeah

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Speaker 1: that's the only one. Derek Henry at a high number.

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Speaker 1: But it's rare. You normally get these, you know, like

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Speaker 1: the Alvin Kamara mark Ingram Saints. You know, we're you

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Speaker 1: get the two headed monsters, sometimes the three headed monster.

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Speaker 1: We always talk about that with running backs. You can

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Speaker 1: apply the same thing to wide receivers. When do you

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Speaker 1: have the team. Look, the Bengals just paid top dollar

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Speaker 1: for T Higgins. They have Jamar Chase and they're like, well,

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Speaker 1: we gotta get T Higgins back here, Like forget the defense.

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Speaker 1: We'll figure it out. Like I know, it was awful,

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Speaker 1: but let's get t Higgins back. There are rarely teams

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Speaker 1: that just have that one stud receiver who's just putting

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Speaker 1: up numbers, because chances are there's another receiver that's really

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Speaker 1: good and gaining yards and catching passes and scoring touchdowns.

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Speaker 1: Really hard to put together twenty four touchdown grabs in

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Speaker 1: one season. With today's NFL, they just they have numerous

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Speaker 1: playmakers on every offense.

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Speaker 3: It's just not gonna happen. I think this acting is

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Speaker 3: can totally happen. It feels way more likely.

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Speaker 1: Absolutely.

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Speaker 3: Yeah.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, they were just showing highlights. They were doing the

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Speaker 1: Sports Center thing in West Virginia, so they were showing

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Speaker 1: Randy Moss highlights and they showed his twenty three touchdowns college. Yeah. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: the Marshal days too. He should have been at Notre Dame. Jeff,

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Speaker 1: that's a miss right there, all right,