1 00:00:00,160 --> 00:00:00,960 Speaker 1: Alongside. 2 00:00:01,000 --> 00:00:04,800 Speaker 2: Now with me, I have Citygroup Chief Financial Officer, Mark Mason. 3 00:00:05,120 --> 00:00:08,080 Speaker 2: It is the Bank Services Investor Day, and your CEO 4 00:00:08,440 --> 00:00:11,920 Speaker 2: Jane Fraser, made some news earlier saying that we are 5 00:00:12,000 --> 00:00:15,120 Speaker 2: no longer the financial supermarket of the past. 6 00:00:15,240 --> 00:00:18,000 Speaker 1: Correct, So Mark, what a City Group in the future. 7 00:00:18,600 --> 00:00:19,079 Speaker 3: Well, first of. 8 00:00:19,040 --> 00:00:21,320 Speaker 4: All, thank you for being here today. Today was a 9 00:00:21,520 --> 00:00:24,200 Speaker 4: very exciting day for us. We had an opportunity to 10 00:00:24,320 --> 00:00:27,760 Speaker 4: update over one hundred and twenty investors on the progress 11 00:00:27,760 --> 00:00:30,960 Speaker 4: that we've made since our Investor Day, but importantly to 12 00:00:30,960 --> 00:00:34,559 Speaker 4: do a deep dive on our services businesses. And to 13 00:00:34,640 --> 00:00:37,280 Speaker 4: your question, we want to be the pre eminent bank 14 00:00:37,440 --> 00:00:41,880 Speaker 4: for institutions with global needs as well as a leader 15 00:00:41,880 --> 00:00:45,760 Speaker 4: in global wealth and a winner in the US market 16 00:00:45,920 --> 00:00:49,000 Speaker 4: for our personal banking business. That's what we are today, 17 00:00:49,760 --> 00:00:51,840 Speaker 4: and a lot of what we talked about today again 18 00:00:52,040 --> 00:00:56,200 Speaker 4: was really highlighting the crown jewel of our firm, the 19 00:00:56,360 --> 00:00:59,680 Speaker 4: gateway to the rest of our offering for large institutional 20 00:00:59,720 --> 00:01:03,200 Speaker 4: client but also for middle market clients as well as 21 00:01:03,240 --> 00:01:06,600 Speaker 4: for investors and asset managers in both that treasury and 22 00:01:06,640 --> 00:01:10,560 Speaker 4: trade solutions business and our security services business. 23 00:01:10,680 --> 00:01:14,000 Speaker 2: It's interesting because to your point, even though security services 24 00:01:14,040 --> 00:01:17,039 Speaker 2: has been a crown jewel, accounting for roughly half the 25 00:01:17,120 --> 00:01:21,800 Speaker 2: profit recently of City Group's own entire businesses. It's been 26 00:01:21,800 --> 00:01:24,240 Speaker 2: hard to explain to investors exactly what it is what 27 00:01:24,280 --> 00:01:24,640 Speaker 2: it does. 28 00:01:24,720 --> 00:01:25,840 Speaker 1: Do you think City Group. 29 00:01:25,760 --> 00:01:29,480 Speaker 2: Stock would be trading higher if people understood the business 30 00:01:29,480 --> 00:01:30,360 Speaker 2: prospects for it. 31 00:01:30,520 --> 00:01:34,000 Speaker 4: I think the services businesses which are comprised of that 32 00:01:34,080 --> 00:01:38,360 Speaker 4: Treasury and Trade Solutions and the security services business contribute 33 00:01:38,360 --> 00:01:41,920 Speaker 4: a significant amount of value to this franchise, and I 34 00:01:41,959 --> 00:01:46,200 Speaker 4: hope that after today investors will realize exactly how much 35 00:01:46,280 --> 00:01:49,040 Speaker 4: value that is and how much upside there is to 36 00:01:49,160 --> 00:01:51,080 Speaker 4: that franchise, and we start to see it in the 37 00:01:51,120 --> 00:01:51,720 Speaker 4: stock price. 38 00:01:52,240 --> 00:01:52,520 Speaker 1: Today. 39 00:01:52,600 --> 00:01:54,200 Speaker 2: You are seeing it in the stock price if you 40 00:01:54,200 --> 00:01:55,919 Speaker 2: think about some of the things that have been holding 41 00:01:55,960 --> 00:01:59,160 Speaker 2: City Group behind. Mike Mayo of Wells Fargo big proponent 42 00:01:59,480 --> 00:02:01,960 Speaker 2: of Citycrep stock, but even he has been kind of 43 00:02:02,000 --> 00:02:06,360 Speaker 2: critical here of the wealth business, calling the returns pitiously low. 44 00:02:06,680 --> 00:02:08,839 Speaker 2: The question is do you have a timeline for when 45 00:02:08,880 --> 00:02:12,320 Speaker 2: investors can expect returns in that business and how soon 46 00:02:12,520 --> 00:02:14,120 Speaker 2: and how robust those returns can be. 47 00:02:14,639 --> 00:02:16,480 Speaker 4: You know, one of the things we talked about today 48 00:02:16,520 --> 00:02:20,120 Speaker 4: is timeline. We talked about the medium term twenty twenty six, 49 00:02:20,440 --> 00:02:23,400 Speaker 4: we talked about top line growth of four to five percent, 50 00:02:23,680 --> 00:02:27,560 Speaker 4: and we talked about the services businesses being a significant 51 00:02:27,560 --> 00:02:30,720 Speaker 4: contributor to that, both in the top line and our 52 00:02:30,760 --> 00:02:34,200 Speaker 4: services business is a twenty percent return on tangible common equity. 53 00:02:34,680 --> 00:02:37,280 Speaker 4: In the wealth space, we brought in new management there 54 00:02:37,680 --> 00:02:40,200 Speaker 4: and we're keenly focused on how we grow the top 55 00:02:40,240 --> 00:02:42,960 Speaker 4: line and how we improve margins and how we improve 56 00:02:43,000 --> 00:02:46,680 Speaker 4: returns there. That's going to involve everything from right sizing 57 00:02:46,720 --> 00:02:51,679 Speaker 4: the cost structure, to increasing the banker productivity, to driving 58 00:02:51,800 --> 00:02:55,760 Speaker 4: new net investment assets across that business. And we do 59 00:02:55,840 --> 00:02:58,600 Speaker 4: believe that inside of this window between now and twenty 60 00:02:58,639 --> 00:03:01,240 Speaker 4: twenty six, you'll start to see that value play through 61 00:03:01,240 --> 00:03:01,880 Speaker 4: our financials. 62 00:03:01,960 --> 00:03:04,400 Speaker 2: Now, it's interesting you mentioned new talent over at the 63 00:03:04,400 --> 00:03:08,200 Speaker 2: wealth business also at the investment banking businesses. When you 64 00:03:08,240 --> 00:03:11,639 Speaker 2: look across City Group's businesses today, are you seeing yourselves 65 00:03:11,680 --> 00:03:15,160 Speaker 2: bring in more and more external talent really scouring Wall 66 00:03:15,160 --> 00:03:18,480 Speaker 2: Street here to pick out the best out of your rivals. 67 00:03:18,639 --> 00:03:20,280 Speaker 4: Look, the good news is that City has been a 68 00:03:20,320 --> 00:03:23,720 Speaker 4: talent magnet. And when you look across Chain's leadership team, 69 00:03:24,120 --> 00:03:27,040 Speaker 4: we brought in Andy sig. We brought in viz Ragabond. 70 00:03:27,080 --> 00:03:29,800 Speaker 4: We recently hired Tim Ryan, so we brought in some 71 00:03:29,840 --> 00:03:32,400 Speaker 4: of the best talent on the street to bring both 72 00:03:32,760 --> 00:03:36,560 Speaker 4: operating chops, but also a different perspective to the institution 73 00:03:36,720 --> 00:03:39,600 Speaker 4: that we have into the execution of our strategy. These 74 00:03:39,600 --> 00:03:43,200 Speaker 4: are real operators who understand these parts of the franchise 75 00:03:43,400 --> 00:03:45,360 Speaker 4: and are going to bring that expertise to bear and 76 00:03:45,400 --> 00:03:46,839 Speaker 4: help drive that value. 77 00:03:46,960 --> 00:03:49,760 Speaker 2: You know, a lot of your recent communication to investors 78 00:03:49,840 --> 00:03:52,080 Speaker 2: kind of showed that a lot of this cost cutting 79 00:03:52,360 --> 00:03:54,000 Speaker 2: has been executed on already. 80 00:03:54,320 --> 00:03:55,760 Speaker 1: Does it give you wiggle. 81 00:03:55,480 --> 00:03:58,840 Speaker 2: Room now to lean in and spend in a few places, 82 00:03:58,840 --> 00:04:00,720 Speaker 2: to hire a little more in certain areas. 83 00:04:00,760 --> 00:04:02,600 Speaker 3: You know, Look, this is a multi year journey. 84 00:04:02,640 --> 00:04:06,240 Speaker 4: As you know, we're going through a significant transformation and 85 00:04:06,360 --> 00:04:10,240 Speaker 4: overhaul of our infrastructure. We're addressing the consent order remediations. 86 00:04:10,280 --> 00:04:12,800 Speaker 4: While we're doing that, it's not going to happen overnight. 87 00:04:12,880 --> 00:04:15,880 Speaker 4: We still have considerable amount of investment to make. We 88 00:04:16,000 --> 00:04:19,520 Speaker 4: have been talking about bending that expense curve. I have 89 00:04:19,600 --> 00:04:22,359 Speaker 4: given expense guidance that reflect some of the savings we 90 00:04:22,400 --> 00:04:25,600 Speaker 4: expect to get from the investments that we've been making 91 00:04:26,000 --> 00:04:28,560 Speaker 4: and speaking of investments, to your point, in order to 92 00:04:28,640 --> 00:04:33,560 Speaker 4: grow these parts of the franchise, they will require continued investment, 93 00:04:33,880 --> 00:04:36,080 Speaker 4: and as we realize savings, some of that will be 94 00:04:36,120 --> 00:04:39,720 Speaker 4: available for us to fund those investments to drive that 95 00:04:39,760 --> 00:04:40,800 Speaker 4: improved performance. 96 00:04:40,920 --> 00:04:43,599 Speaker 2: Speaking of new hires and speaking of performance, you said 97 00:04:43,600 --> 00:04:46,440 Speaker 2: today as well that the investment banking division in this 98 00:04:46,560 --> 00:04:49,760 Speaker 2: quarter you can see investment banking rising by fifty percent. 99 00:04:50,120 --> 00:04:52,159 Speaker 2: Of course, it's just been a matter of weeks since 100 00:04:52,240 --> 00:04:54,520 Speaker 2: a new hire from JP Morgan started to lead the 101 00:04:54,520 --> 00:04:59,040 Speaker 2: investment banking business. What does this mandate across the investment. 102 00:04:58,600 --> 00:05:01,680 Speaker 4: Bank well business brand new, But again you're talking about 103 00:05:01,720 --> 00:05:05,839 Speaker 4: an experienced season banker that's joined our franchise, and so 104 00:05:06,080 --> 00:05:08,120 Speaker 4: as you would imagine, he's coming in and he's getting 105 00:05:08,200 --> 00:05:11,200 Speaker 4: up to speed. He has a great appreciation for the 106 00:05:11,279 --> 00:05:15,159 Speaker 4: unique characteristics that city brings to banking, the globality of 107 00:05:15,200 --> 00:05:18,000 Speaker 4: the franchise, the breath of the clients that we serve. 108 00:05:18,200 --> 00:05:19,880 Speaker 4: But he's going to have to spend some time really 109 00:05:20,000 --> 00:05:22,880 Speaker 4: understanding where some of our weak points are, where some 110 00:05:22,920 --> 00:05:26,520 Speaker 4: of our advantages exist. He's going to quickly see that 111 00:05:26,560 --> 00:05:30,640 Speaker 4: we have invested in areas like health, in tech, and 112 00:05:30,680 --> 00:05:33,839 Speaker 4: that those parts of the franchise are well positioned to 113 00:05:33,960 --> 00:05:36,720 Speaker 4: capture the upside as the wilet rebounds. But I think 114 00:05:36,760 --> 00:05:38,640 Speaker 4: BUS is going to be keenly focused on how do 115 00:05:38,720 --> 00:05:41,920 Speaker 4: we get greater productivity, how do we gain more share 116 00:05:42,279 --> 00:05:43,440 Speaker 4: and how do we serve. 117 00:05:43,200 --> 00:05:44,480 Speaker 3: Our clients optimally. 118 00:05:44,600 --> 00:05:47,080 Speaker 4: The last point that I'll make, because this is unique 119 00:05:47,120 --> 00:05:49,359 Speaker 4: to I think City, is how do we bring the 120 00:05:49,480 --> 00:05:52,720 Speaker 4: breath of the franchise to bear for these clients. So 121 00:05:52,760 --> 00:05:55,800 Speaker 4: that's not just M and A and ECM and DCM 122 00:05:55,839 --> 00:05:58,440 Speaker 4: and the IPO activity, but how do we bring the 123 00:05:58,560 --> 00:06:01,720 Speaker 4: corporate activity as well? How do we bring the TTS 124 00:06:01,720 --> 00:06:03,440 Speaker 4: offering to bear for these clients? 125 00:06:03,600 --> 00:06:05,400 Speaker 3: How do we access the middle market clients. 126 00:06:05,440 --> 00:06:07,800 Speaker 4: I think this is going to bring some perspective on 127 00:06:07,960 --> 00:06:11,320 Speaker 4: broader client coverage and that's how you unleash the value 128 00:06:11,320 --> 00:06:13,520 Speaker 4: and the differentiating characteristics of City. 129 00:06:13,920 --> 00:06:16,760 Speaker 2: Now, one big question that remains in the investment banking 130 00:06:16,880 --> 00:06:18,920 Speaker 2: universe City Group massive debt underwriter. 131 00:06:19,040 --> 00:06:20,840 Speaker 1: Of course, how do you think about. 132 00:06:20,600 --> 00:06:23,480 Speaker 2: The competition you're seeing in the private credit landscape. Are 133 00:06:23,480 --> 00:06:25,400 Speaker 2: they friends, partners or enemies? 134 00:06:25,480 --> 00:06:27,800 Speaker 4: Yes, the answer is yes, right, I mean, at the 135 00:06:27,920 --> 00:06:30,919 Speaker 4: end of the day, it's a growing space, it's a 136 00:06:30,960 --> 00:06:34,160 Speaker 4: space that's hard to avoid. It's one that we're obviously 137 00:06:34,240 --> 00:06:37,080 Speaker 4: looking at what's the best way for us to play in. 138 00:06:37,400 --> 00:06:40,039 Speaker 4: I think part of that is going to be partnering 139 00:06:40,120 --> 00:06:43,120 Speaker 4: with those that have the prospect for being broader clients 140 00:06:43,160 --> 00:06:45,039 Speaker 4: with us, and part of it will be competing in 141 00:06:45,080 --> 00:06:46,799 Speaker 4: some aspects as well. But we're going to be smart 142 00:06:46,839 --> 00:06:48,640 Speaker 4: about it, We're going to be deliberate about it, and 143 00:06:48,640 --> 00:06:51,640 Speaker 4: we're going to ensure that whatever we're doing is consistent 144 00:06:51,680 --> 00:06:53,200 Speaker 4: with the broader strategy. 145 00:06:52,760 --> 00:06:53,280 Speaker 3: That we've said. 146 00:06:53,400 --> 00:06:55,480 Speaker 2: I also want to be cognizant that City Group still 147 00:06:55,520 --> 00:06:57,920 Speaker 2: has its own dealmaking on the table here. There's a 148 00:06:57,960 --> 00:07:00,559 Speaker 2: lot of questions about when you see that that fully 149 00:07:00,560 --> 00:07:04,279 Speaker 2: happen in Mexico for example, of course new leadership the 150 00:07:04,279 --> 00:07:06,760 Speaker 2: Globe is watching in Mexico as well. Does it change 151 00:07:06,760 --> 00:07:09,400 Speaker 2: your calculus on how you see an exit happening via 152 00:07:09,440 --> 00:07:10,160 Speaker 2: sale or IPO. 153 00:07:10,560 --> 00:07:13,200 Speaker 4: Look, the new leadership is an historic event, and so 154 00:07:13,240 --> 00:07:16,640 Speaker 4: we congratulate Claudio on actually being elected to president. We 155 00:07:16,640 --> 00:07:20,720 Speaker 4: think that's significant. It doesn't change our strategy, It doesn't 156 00:07:20,800 --> 00:07:24,480 Speaker 4: change our focus on the importance of the IPO. It 157 00:07:24,520 --> 00:07:27,040 Speaker 4: doesn't change our focus on the importance of the separation 158 00:07:27,120 --> 00:07:30,280 Speaker 4: which happens before the IPO, which we're keenly focused on 159 00:07:30,400 --> 00:07:32,960 Speaker 4: right now. We obviously, at the end of the day, 160 00:07:33,000 --> 00:07:35,240 Speaker 4: want to do what's in the best interest of the shareholders, 161 00:07:35,320 --> 00:07:40,440 Speaker 4: and we believe that getting the Mexico consumer franchise in 162 00:07:40,480 --> 00:07:42,960 Speaker 4: the hands of another player is in the best interests 163 00:07:42,960 --> 00:07:45,040 Speaker 4: of our shareholders, and we're focused on that. 164 00:07:45,320 --> 00:07:48,600 Speaker 2: Beyond the Mexican consumer, the US consumer, of course, is 165 00:07:48,640 --> 00:07:50,960 Speaker 2: the giant whale in the room. When people are thinking 166 00:07:50,960 --> 00:07:53,760 Speaker 2: about the US economy, investors are baking in where to 167 00:07:53,800 --> 00:07:54,840 Speaker 2: put their chips next. 168 00:07:55,080 --> 00:07:57,480 Speaker 1: How do you think about that from the perspective of city. 169 00:07:57,280 --> 00:08:01,120 Speaker 2: Group, given you're alluding earlier today to this higher for 170 00:08:01,240 --> 00:08:04,040 Speaker 2: longer rate environment and what that means. 171 00:08:03,840 --> 00:08:04,600 Speaker 1: For charge offs. 172 00:08:05,440 --> 00:08:08,840 Speaker 4: Look, I think that you know, we're all watching kind 173 00:08:08,880 --> 00:08:11,680 Speaker 4: of the impact of inflation and interest rates and what 174 00:08:11,720 --> 00:08:14,960 Speaker 4: that means for consumers. And we have seen the credit 175 00:08:15,600 --> 00:08:18,760 Speaker 4: environment normalized for consumers, particularly on the low end of. 176 00:08:18,760 --> 00:08:19,640 Speaker 3: The FICO score. 177 00:08:20,280 --> 00:08:23,760 Speaker 4: This case shaped type of normalization that's taking place, which 178 00:08:23,760 --> 00:08:25,640 Speaker 4: you have to keep in mind from a city perspective, 179 00:08:25,720 --> 00:08:27,520 Speaker 4: is we tend to play on the higher end of 180 00:08:27,560 --> 00:08:30,840 Speaker 4: that credit spectrum. So eighty five percent of our of 181 00:08:30,880 --> 00:08:33,679 Speaker 4: our card bases with consumers with Fyco scores of six 182 00:08:33,840 --> 00:08:36,600 Speaker 4: sixty or higher. Doesn't mean we don't watch it closely, 183 00:08:36,720 --> 00:08:39,479 Speaker 4: but it does mean that we ensure we've got appropriate 184 00:08:39,559 --> 00:08:44,040 Speaker 4: levels of reserves in place and that we're we're sticking 185 00:08:44,120 --> 00:08:47,920 Speaker 4: true to, if you will, our credit profile and risk appetite. 186 00:08:48,080 --> 00:08:51,439 Speaker 4: So we feel very well positioned. There will be continued normalization, 187 00:08:51,880 --> 00:08:56,280 Speaker 4: there will be continued increases in NCLs, but generally in 188 00:08:56,280 --> 00:08:59,760 Speaker 4: line with the expectations given where we've come from. 189 00:09:00,080 --> 00:09:00,920 Speaker 3: So to speak, do you have. 190 00:09:00,960 --> 00:09:03,320 Speaker 2: To change anything about the way you underwrite in the 191 00:09:03,360 --> 00:09:07,040 Speaker 2: future given the changing expectations around inflation and interest rates? 192 00:09:07,080 --> 00:09:09,280 Speaker 4: At this point, we're constantly looking at that. I think 193 00:09:09,320 --> 00:09:12,360 Speaker 4: we've got a very robust risk appetite. We constantly look 194 00:09:12,400 --> 00:09:14,960 Speaker 4: at that based on the environment that we're in. We 195 00:09:15,040 --> 00:09:18,360 Speaker 4: obviously run all types of stress tests and scenarios. We 196 00:09:18,400 --> 00:09:20,760 Speaker 4: do that not only for the existing book, but we 197 00:09:20,840 --> 00:09:22,960 Speaker 4: do that for how we profile the new book and 198 00:09:23,000 --> 00:09:25,800 Speaker 4: the clients that we want to onboard and acquire, and 199 00:09:25,840 --> 00:09:28,120 Speaker 4: again we feel very very good about that. We feel 200 00:09:28,120 --> 00:09:31,719 Speaker 4: good about our understanding of those demographics. The savings profiles 201 00:09:31,720 --> 00:09:34,240 Speaker 4: of our clients are spending habits, and so we feel 202 00:09:34,240 --> 00:09:35,679 Speaker 4: good about kind of where we're going with what. 203 00:09:35,640 --> 00:09:36,840 Speaker 1: About industry wide? 204 00:09:37,000 --> 00:09:39,960 Speaker 2: Even though you have kind of clamped down on risk 205 00:09:40,000 --> 00:09:42,679 Speaker 2: in City's own portfolio, you mentioned that you've kind of 206 00:09:42,679 --> 00:09:45,640 Speaker 2: gone upstream in terms of the people you do lend 207 00:09:45,720 --> 00:09:48,040 Speaker 2: to in terms of their FICO scores. What does it 208 00:09:48,160 --> 00:09:51,360 Speaker 2: mean for those that are more exposed to the lower 209 00:09:51,360 --> 00:09:56,480 Speaker 2: income consumer today, especially because corporation after corporation is starting 210 00:09:56,520 --> 00:09:59,840 Speaker 2: to mention those stresses in their earnings reports. 211 00:09:59,559 --> 00:10:02,040 Speaker 4: And otherwise, Look, I think there's still a fair amount 212 00:10:02,040 --> 00:10:05,920 Speaker 4: of uncertainty as to how this macro environment evolves, right, 213 00:10:05,960 --> 00:10:09,719 Speaker 4: so whether that the interest rates or how inflation kind 214 00:10:09,720 --> 00:10:12,480 Speaker 4: of stabilizes, and does that stabilize kind of fast enough 215 00:10:12,520 --> 00:10:13,760 Speaker 4: for us to see cuts. 216 00:10:13,480 --> 00:10:15,599 Speaker 3: In the near term are all unknowns. 217 00:10:15,600 --> 00:10:19,800 Speaker 4: But they're also factors that influence the pressure that consumers 218 00:10:19,840 --> 00:10:20,760 Speaker 4: are likely to see. 219 00:10:20,840 --> 00:10:23,400 Speaker 3: And so there's a fair amount of uncertainty there that. 220 00:10:23,320 --> 00:10:26,960 Speaker 4: People have to manage too. And again we're thoughtful about it. 221 00:10:27,000 --> 00:10:28,720 Speaker 4: I think we're managing to it very carefully. 222 00:10:28,960 --> 00:10:30,520 Speaker 2: Before I let you go as well, Mark, there was 223 00:10:30,520 --> 00:10:33,240 Speaker 2: a report today in the journal City Group is specific 224 00:10:33,320 --> 00:10:37,720 Speaker 2: here about concerns around your living will planning at City Group. 225 00:10:38,400 --> 00:10:39,920 Speaker 2: How do you address those concerns? 226 00:10:41,000 --> 00:10:43,080 Speaker 3: Yeah, you know, look, I saw the report. 227 00:10:43,200 --> 00:10:47,199 Speaker 4: I obviously can't comment on what our regulators haven't really 228 00:10:47,240 --> 00:10:49,160 Speaker 4: said yet or rumors that are out there. 229 00:10:49,440 --> 00:10:50,959 Speaker 3: What I can say is that. 230 00:10:50,880 --> 00:10:54,680 Speaker 4: As I mentioned earlier, we've been making significant investments across 231 00:10:54,679 --> 00:10:59,760 Speaker 4: the franchise, across regulatory reporting, across data and the thought 232 00:11:00,040 --> 00:11:05,439 Speaker 4: cross resolution and recovery planning. We're constantly looking at these processes. 233 00:11:05,480 --> 00:11:07,520 Speaker 4: We're looking at ways to enhance them. We're looking at 234 00:11:07,520 --> 00:11:11,439 Speaker 4: ways to improve our forecasting capability to ensure that our 235 00:11:11,520 --> 00:11:14,640 Speaker 4: playbooks are robust in case of a situation like that. 236 00:11:15,120 --> 00:11:16,720 Speaker 3: Importantly, we feel. 237 00:11:16,520 --> 00:11:19,560 Speaker 4: Very good about our capital, our liquidity. We've got a 238 00:11:19,640 --> 00:11:22,440 Speaker 4: very strong balance sheet. But these are areas we've been 239 00:11:22,480 --> 00:11:25,160 Speaker 4: investing in because we know the areas that frankly, the 240 00:11:25,240 --> 00:11:28,880 Speaker 4: industry likely needs to further enhance, and we certainly want 241 00:11:28,880 --> 00:11:30,199 Speaker 4: to enhance them for ourselves. 242 00:11:30,240 --> 00:11:34,679 Speaker 2: We're not far off also from expected new proposals. 243 00:11:34,080 --> 00:11:35,559 Speaker 1: Around the Basle three endgame. 244 00:11:36,679 --> 00:11:39,600 Speaker 2: Given there's been so much change and what's expected out 245 00:11:39,640 --> 00:11:41,960 Speaker 2: of those final rules, what do you think will be 246 00:11:41,960 --> 00:11:45,760 Speaker 2: the most different And are there certain businesses that City 247 00:11:45,800 --> 00:11:49,120 Speaker 2: Group may have to tone down on given the new rules, 248 00:11:49,200 --> 00:11:49,679 Speaker 2: that may not. 249 00:11:49,640 --> 00:11:50,400 Speaker 1: Be as profitable. 250 00:11:50,720 --> 00:11:50,920 Speaker 2: Yeah. 251 00:11:50,960 --> 00:11:54,080 Speaker 4: Look, the proposal is evolving as we know, and we 252 00:11:54,120 --> 00:11:56,959 Speaker 4: have no idea kind of how it evolves further and 253 00:11:57,120 --> 00:12:00,480 Speaker 4: where we end up. I think that, you know, I'm 254 00:12:00,520 --> 00:12:03,360 Speaker 4: hopeful that we see some changes in how the. 255 00:12:03,360 --> 00:12:06,080 Speaker 3: Proposal addresses operational risk. 256 00:12:07,240 --> 00:12:09,720 Speaker 4: There were certainly some heavy weightings as it relates to 257 00:12:09,760 --> 00:12:13,640 Speaker 4: equity exposures, they were certainly heaving waitings as it relates 258 00:12:13,679 --> 00:12:17,200 Speaker 4: to credit, and hopefully those things continue to evolve in 259 00:12:17,240 --> 00:12:20,640 Speaker 4: a way that is more thoughtful and more favorable to 260 00:12:21,160 --> 00:12:24,720 Speaker 4: the industry, supporting the stability of the broader markets. 261 00:12:24,920 --> 00:12:26,760 Speaker 2: Do you think they will be more lax in those 262 00:12:26,800 --> 00:12:28,240 Speaker 2: fronts by the end of it? 263 00:12:29,080 --> 00:12:30,439 Speaker 3: I hope so. 264 00:12:30,559 --> 00:12:32,480 Speaker 2: Mark, Well, we thank you very much for your time. 265 00:12:32,480 --> 00:12:35,480 Speaker 2: That is Mark Mason, the CFO of City Group, of course, 266 00:12:35,520 --> 00:12:36,200 Speaker 2: speaking at. 267 00:12:36,040 --> 00:12:38,360 Speaker 1: The bank's Services Investor Day 268 00:12:38,480 --> 00:12:40,959 Speaker 2: Speaking a little more about that crown jewel inside of 269 00:12:41,000 --> 00:12:41,440 Speaker 2: City Group.