1 00:00:15,800 --> 00:00:20,400 Speaker 1: Hey, Hey, Hey, for those of you who are asking 2 00:00:20,440 --> 00:00:23,360 Speaker 1: for the visual. With each hey, my hands get progressively 3 00:00:23,440 --> 00:00:26,880 Speaker 1: higher and I end in jazz hands and scene. I 4 00:00:26,920 --> 00:00:30,720 Speaker 1: am super excited because we got my girl law of today. 5 00:00:30,920 --> 00:00:32,800 Speaker 1: Aside from Mandy, which is my girl, but you know 6 00:00:32,840 --> 00:00:35,000 Speaker 1: y'all are used to Mandy. We've got a guest that 7 00:00:35,080 --> 00:00:38,159 Speaker 1: you guys have loved. She was here two years ago 8 00:00:38,200 --> 00:00:43,000 Speaker 1: when we first started, and she's grasing us today. Welcome 9 00:00:43,080 --> 00:00:47,200 Speaker 1: Patrice for Washington. Hey, thank you for having me back. 10 00:00:47,280 --> 00:00:50,240 Speaker 1: And I'm doing a little jazz hands over here as well, 11 00:00:50,240 --> 00:00:52,879 Speaker 1: in your honor. Yes, I can hear it. I can 12 00:00:52,880 --> 00:00:53,640 Speaker 1: hear the jazz hands. 13 00:00:55,160 --> 00:00:56,680 Speaker 2: It's so good to have you back on the show. 14 00:00:57,960 --> 00:01:00,680 Speaker 1: I know, I can't believe it's been two years. So 15 00:01:00,800 --> 00:01:02,360 Speaker 1: congratulations to you guys. 16 00:01:02,560 --> 00:01:04,400 Speaker 2: We're in a terrible twos is your thing. 17 00:01:04,840 --> 00:01:06,920 Speaker 1: You're get terrible toos. You'll get past it. 18 00:01:09,200 --> 00:01:11,119 Speaker 3: So for those of you, first of all, at this point, 19 00:01:11,160 --> 00:01:13,000 Speaker 3: if you're listening and you want to know who Patri says, 20 00:01:13,040 --> 00:01:14,360 Speaker 3: you have to go back to one of our early 21 00:01:14,400 --> 00:01:18,080 Speaker 3: episodes when we first talked to Patrise aka America's Money Maven. 22 00:01:18,959 --> 00:01:20,759 Speaker 3: Go listen to that show, then come back because we're 23 00:01:20,760 --> 00:01:22,680 Speaker 3: about to catch up with Patrese and I want to 24 00:01:22,720 --> 00:01:25,520 Speaker 3: hear everything about where have you been these past two years? 25 00:01:25,560 --> 00:01:26,720 Speaker 3: Where are you going? 26 00:01:26,800 --> 00:01:28,080 Speaker 2: Where have you been? Where are you going? 27 00:01:28,120 --> 00:01:31,319 Speaker 3: Where's your business? Are you still on the Steve Harvey Show, 28 00:01:31,680 --> 00:01:34,120 Speaker 3: What's happening? What's happening in the Patrise universe? 29 00:01:35,080 --> 00:01:37,240 Speaker 1: Oh my gosh, So where have I been? It's been 30 00:01:37,280 --> 00:01:40,520 Speaker 1: about two years. And it's funny. About two years ago, 31 00:01:41,000 --> 00:01:44,280 Speaker 1: I was actually in the kitchen with my daughter. I 32 00:01:44,280 --> 00:01:46,200 Speaker 1: had just come off a book tour and I was 33 00:01:46,240 --> 00:01:49,440 Speaker 1: in the kitchen with my daughter pretending to cook because 34 00:01:49,520 --> 00:01:51,080 Speaker 1: y'all know I'm not a real cook, but I was 35 00:01:51,120 --> 00:01:53,720 Speaker 1: trying to do a little something something and my daughter 36 00:01:53,800 --> 00:01:55,600 Speaker 1: was trying to tell me this story Mandy, and she 37 00:01:55,680 --> 00:01:59,320 Speaker 1: called me my nanny's name like three times in a row. Oh, 38 00:02:00,000 --> 00:02:02,880 Speaker 1: I'm like, why does she keep calling me miss Angela? 39 00:02:03,400 --> 00:02:06,600 Speaker 1: You know? And here's the deal. Have any kids, or 40 00:02:06,640 --> 00:02:09,200 Speaker 1: ever see any kids? Met a kid. You ask a 41 00:02:09,240 --> 00:02:11,240 Speaker 1: little kid a real question, They're going to give you 42 00:02:11,280 --> 00:02:13,680 Speaker 1: a real answer. And I asked her, like, why do 43 00:02:13,720 --> 00:02:16,320 Speaker 1: you keep calling me miss Angela? And essentially she kept 44 00:02:16,320 --> 00:02:19,520 Speaker 1: it all the way real. She's like, because I talked 45 00:02:19,520 --> 00:02:22,240 Speaker 1: to her all the time, and that really hurt. 46 00:02:22,760 --> 00:02:23,760 Speaker 2: How was she like? 47 00:02:24,639 --> 00:02:27,880 Speaker 1: She was about six? You know, I'm sorry, No, she 48 00:02:27,960 --> 00:02:31,320 Speaker 1: was just she was just about to turn seven. And 49 00:02:32,080 --> 00:02:35,000 Speaker 1: it was one of those aha moments where you're like, 50 00:02:35,080 --> 00:02:38,760 Speaker 1: wait a minute. As much as I enjoy being America's 51 00:02:38,760 --> 00:02:41,959 Speaker 1: money Maven and doing my thing on the Steve Harvey 52 00:02:42,040 --> 00:02:45,560 Speaker 1: Show and speaking all over the country and interview after interview, 53 00:02:45,560 --> 00:02:48,560 Speaker 1: as much as I enjoy all of that, like my 54 00:02:48,720 --> 00:02:52,960 Speaker 1: number one responsibility is to be this child's mother. You know, 55 00:02:53,240 --> 00:02:55,160 Speaker 1: guy asked to have her, she didn't ask for me, 56 00:02:55,680 --> 00:02:59,360 Speaker 1: and so it's to be her mother. And it was 57 00:02:59,400 --> 00:03:02,120 Speaker 1: a reminder that I never wanted to be a public 58 00:03:02,160 --> 00:03:06,880 Speaker 1: success and a private failure. And in that moment I 59 00:03:06,919 --> 00:03:09,760 Speaker 1: started to really strategize and think about how I could 60 00:03:09,800 --> 00:03:12,200 Speaker 1: take a few steps back. So I know, for a 61 00:03:12,200 --> 00:03:14,600 Speaker 1: lot of people, it doesn't seem like I've disappeared, because 62 00:03:14,600 --> 00:03:17,680 Speaker 1: I've been all over the place, still doing a lot, 63 00:03:17,800 --> 00:03:22,240 Speaker 1: but I've been so much more intentional and strategic about 64 00:03:22,840 --> 00:03:27,920 Speaker 1: my family time and how that really connects to this 65 00:03:28,080 --> 00:03:31,280 Speaker 1: pursuit of me being America's money Maven and living in 66 00:03:31,320 --> 00:03:34,200 Speaker 1: my purpose and doing all this work I really love. 67 00:03:34,560 --> 00:03:38,040 Speaker 1: But I was struggling. Honestly, I was losing focus at 68 00:03:38,040 --> 00:03:40,040 Speaker 1: that time and thinking that if I just kept going 69 00:03:40,040 --> 00:03:41,640 Speaker 1: and going and going, which I know a lot of 70 00:03:41,640 --> 00:03:44,600 Speaker 1: people can relate to that, you know, we're kind of 71 00:03:44,640 --> 00:03:47,760 Speaker 1: chasing that next shiny object. But in that moment, I 72 00:03:47,800 --> 00:03:51,000 Speaker 1: realized that wasn't it. So for the last two years, 73 00:03:51,080 --> 00:03:53,960 Speaker 1: I've really been pulling back a little bit. And it's 74 00:03:53,960 --> 00:03:56,200 Speaker 1: funny because you know, I talk about this all the 75 00:03:56,240 --> 00:03:58,760 Speaker 1: time and people are like, man, so you work that 76 00:03:58,920 --> 00:04:02,480 Speaker 1: hard and you just gave up all your money. Actually, no, 77 00:04:02,760 --> 00:04:05,800 Speaker 1: that's not what happened. I started to go on the 78 00:04:05,880 --> 00:04:09,960 Speaker 1: road less, but I leveraged the fewer opportunities that I 79 00:04:10,000 --> 00:04:14,320 Speaker 1: was taking and I actually made more money hallelujah, since 80 00:04:14,360 --> 00:04:16,040 Speaker 1: I haven't been doing the same amount of work. 81 00:04:16,560 --> 00:04:19,200 Speaker 2: This is the this is what you needed. This is 82 00:04:19,279 --> 00:04:21,520 Speaker 2: what you were talking about the last episode. 83 00:04:21,560 --> 00:04:23,480 Speaker 1: Me and Patritz we talk on the side. 84 00:04:23,880 --> 00:04:25,440 Speaker 2: Okay, so I'm. 85 00:04:25,279 --> 00:04:28,320 Speaker 1: Trying to hold back to tears and the church rate 86 00:04:28,800 --> 00:04:32,760 Speaker 1: so because it is exactly what I have been wanted. 87 00:04:32,839 --> 00:04:34,520 Speaker 1: Like Mandy and I, you know, we talked candidly on 88 00:04:34,560 --> 00:04:38,400 Speaker 1: the show with our listeners, and you know, I it's 89 00:04:38,600 --> 00:04:41,920 Speaker 1: just because you love it, you know, and you can't like. 90 00:04:42,279 --> 00:04:44,279 Speaker 1: But at the same time, I'm like, oh, I'm a 91 00:04:44,320 --> 00:04:48,120 Speaker 1: new wife, I'm a bonus mom, and I'm making the 92 00:04:48,200 --> 00:04:54,719 Speaker 1: transition into not always working. Has been really hard because 93 00:04:54,760 --> 00:04:59,680 Speaker 1: it's not like I dislike the work. Yeah, I don't 94 00:04:59,720 --> 00:05:02,919 Speaker 1: want to look up and you know, you know, I 95 00:05:03,160 --> 00:05:06,520 Speaker 1: my husband and my bonus baby and the baby that 96 00:05:06,600 --> 00:05:09,479 Speaker 1: I want to have. Nobody knows me, you know. Yeah, 97 00:05:09,640 --> 00:05:13,720 Speaker 1: YEA was struggling with that transition of how do I 98 00:05:13,839 --> 00:05:16,120 Speaker 1: to pull back? So listen, that's why kids conversation we're 99 00:05:16,120 --> 00:05:19,320 Speaker 1: going to have today of redefining wealth if I can 100 00:05:19,360 --> 00:05:21,520 Speaker 1: sid Yeah, awesome. 101 00:05:22,440 --> 00:05:24,240 Speaker 3: So what are some of the things you did, Patrice 102 00:05:24,279 --> 00:05:27,440 Speaker 3: to leverage so you you're scaling back in some ways, 103 00:05:27,480 --> 00:05:30,760 Speaker 3: and you said, just focusing on the opportunities that really 104 00:05:31,000 --> 00:05:33,880 Speaker 3: have value for you. I'm assuming financially, but then also 105 00:05:34,040 --> 00:05:36,320 Speaker 3: just fulfillment wise. I mean, what are some of the 106 00:05:36,880 --> 00:05:38,280 Speaker 3: you know, what are some of the steps you really 107 00:05:38,279 --> 00:05:42,400 Speaker 3: took to to to recalibrate how you were approaching your business. 108 00:05:43,120 --> 00:05:45,240 Speaker 1: Well, one of the first things I had to do 109 00:05:45,360 --> 00:05:49,320 Speaker 1: was get clarity around who I really was. Like for me, 110 00:05:49,560 --> 00:05:52,240 Speaker 1: not being on the road so much, literally gave me 111 00:05:52,360 --> 00:05:56,280 Speaker 1: time to not be so obligated to delivering other people's 112 00:05:56,320 --> 00:05:59,400 Speaker 1: sound bites, you know, because I was getting invited to 113 00:05:59,480 --> 00:06:03,039 Speaker 1: do a lot of interviews and television and radio, and 114 00:06:03,120 --> 00:06:04,960 Speaker 1: so you have to speak in these, you know, very 115 00:06:05,000 --> 00:06:08,440 Speaker 1: concise soundbites. But I was being requested for the same 116 00:06:08,560 --> 00:06:11,400 Speaker 1: topics right over and over and over again. And so 117 00:06:11,480 --> 00:06:13,880 Speaker 1: when I had some time to sit back, I was like, 118 00:06:14,640 --> 00:06:18,760 Speaker 1: this isn't even you anymore now, Like that doesn't even 119 00:06:18,800 --> 00:06:21,719 Speaker 1: make you happy. You are not pumped up and super 120 00:06:21,800 --> 00:06:26,360 Speaker 1: jazzed about talking about budgets anymore, or talking about credit 121 00:06:26,400 --> 00:06:29,719 Speaker 1: reports or talk like that just doesn't make you happy anymore. 122 00:06:30,080 --> 00:06:32,760 Speaker 1: And so that was one of the first ways I 123 00:06:32,760 --> 00:06:34,839 Speaker 1: started to evaluate what I would do and what I 124 00:06:34,839 --> 00:06:38,919 Speaker 1: wouldn't was by getting really clear about what did fulfill me, 125 00:06:39,200 --> 00:06:41,520 Speaker 1: what piece of this whole, because there's so much. We 126 00:06:41,600 --> 00:06:44,120 Speaker 1: all have our part, right, like we all I met 127 00:06:44,160 --> 00:06:46,960 Speaker 1: you guys at a personal finance you know conference at 128 00:06:46,960 --> 00:06:49,320 Speaker 1: fin Con and stuff, and we all offer our own 129 00:06:49,400 --> 00:06:53,120 Speaker 1: little secret sauce to this whole you know, environment of 130 00:06:53,160 --> 00:06:56,200 Speaker 1: personal finance. And I was like, there are people out 131 00:06:56,240 --> 00:06:59,000 Speaker 1: there who will cover that what feels right for you, 132 00:06:59,560 --> 00:07:02,640 Speaker 1: like what really speaks to your heart, speaks to your soul, 133 00:07:02,680 --> 00:07:05,920 Speaker 1: speaks to your journey. And once I got really clear 134 00:07:05,960 --> 00:07:08,800 Speaker 1: on that, it became easier to just cross things off 135 00:07:08,839 --> 00:07:11,480 Speaker 1: the list. Because we would talk to people, you know, 136 00:07:11,560 --> 00:07:13,600 Speaker 1: when people would pitch me on coming to things or 137 00:07:13,640 --> 00:07:15,840 Speaker 1: being a part of things, we would say, okay, well, 138 00:07:15,840 --> 00:07:18,120 Speaker 1: Patrice would like to steer the conversation this way is 139 00:07:18,160 --> 00:07:20,320 Speaker 1: are you okay with that? And some people will be like, no, 140 00:07:20,400 --> 00:07:23,560 Speaker 1: we need your one, two, three bullet points on this 141 00:07:23,800 --> 00:07:27,760 Speaker 1: very specific topic. And I'm like, nah, it's okay. Like 142 00:07:27,840 --> 00:07:30,440 Speaker 1: I'm not gonna leave my kid to go be disgruntled 143 00:07:30,440 --> 00:07:37,040 Speaker 1: somewhere for what I could be disgruntled at the PTA meeting, 144 00:07:37,160 --> 00:07:39,840 Speaker 1: Like no, I'm okay, you know, I don't. I don't 145 00:07:39,840 --> 00:07:41,320 Speaker 1: have to leave my house to go and do that. 146 00:07:41,480 --> 00:07:44,600 Speaker 1: I'm not. You know, that's what we work for, Tiffany, right, 147 00:07:44,800 --> 00:07:48,120 Speaker 1: Like you work to build something that gives you freedom, 148 00:07:48,760 --> 00:07:51,840 Speaker 1: but we turn around and become a slave to it, yes, 149 00:07:53,640 --> 00:07:56,200 Speaker 1: or a preacher to the choir, yeah, you know. And 150 00:07:56,240 --> 00:07:59,120 Speaker 1: I was like, man, I'm a slave to these sound bites. 151 00:07:59,160 --> 00:08:01,200 Speaker 1: I don't want to live like this. I truly want 152 00:08:01,280 --> 00:08:03,760 Speaker 1: to talk about what God puts on my heart. And 153 00:08:03,840 --> 00:08:06,680 Speaker 1: so the first thing was like really getting clarity around 154 00:08:06,680 --> 00:08:09,560 Speaker 1: what that was because I knew it was something, but 155 00:08:09,600 --> 00:08:11,440 Speaker 1: I'm gonna I'm gonna keep it real. Like at first 156 00:08:11,480 --> 00:08:13,320 Speaker 1: I couldn't tell what it was. That was just kind 157 00:08:13,320 --> 00:08:16,000 Speaker 1: of vexing my spirit. You haven't just been like like 158 00:08:16,040 --> 00:08:20,040 Speaker 1: an uneasiness and you know that like you gotta shift, 159 00:08:20,080 --> 00:08:22,560 Speaker 1: but you don't know to where or to what or how. 160 00:08:22,720 --> 00:08:25,600 Speaker 1: You just feel something is like not right. So that's 161 00:08:25,640 --> 00:08:28,080 Speaker 1: what it was. So taking a step back agatting clarity 162 00:08:29,160 --> 00:08:32,319 Speaker 1: was a really really big one, and then putting people 163 00:08:33,120 --> 00:08:35,720 Speaker 1: in place around me, on my team to help hold 164 00:08:35,760 --> 00:08:40,000 Speaker 1: me accountable to that, because that's the other thing. You know, 165 00:08:40,120 --> 00:08:42,520 Speaker 1: we become a slave to it. And it's like people 166 00:08:42,600 --> 00:08:46,360 Speaker 1: dangle dollars in front of you, like, I mean, I could, 167 00:08:47,040 --> 00:08:49,520 Speaker 1: I guess I could come back one day, you know, 168 00:08:49,800 --> 00:08:51,800 Speaker 1: if I make it a quick trip. If I do this, 169 00:08:51,920 --> 00:08:54,120 Speaker 1: you know, if you try to rationalize or as I 170 00:08:54,200 --> 00:08:57,079 Speaker 1: like to say, rational out lies to yourself. So I 171 00:08:57,120 --> 00:08:59,319 Speaker 1: would try to rationalize, and so I hired one of 172 00:08:59,360 --> 00:09:02,240 Speaker 1: my good friends to support me, and I got some 173 00:09:02,280 --> 00:09:05,520 Speaker 1: really great team members in place who helped me set 174 00:09:05,559 --> 00:09:08,880 Speaker 1: up systems so that I wouldn't even hear about some 175 00:09:08,920 --> 00:09:12,160 Speaker 1: of the opportunities that were just not a fit. Like 176 00:09:12,280 --> 00:09:14,680 Speaker 1: they would go through the process, take in the form, 177 00:09:14,800 --> 00:09:18,240 Speaker 1: make the call, talk to people you know, do their research, 178 00:09:18,400 --> 00:09:21,120 Speaker 1: and then if they determined based on what we talked 179 00:09:21,160 --> 00:09:23,679 Speaker 1: about being a fit versus a non fit, if they 180 00:09:23,760 --> 00:09:25,800 Speaker 1: determined that it wasn't a fit, no one would ever 181 00:09:25,840 --> 00:09:30,000 Speaker 1: tell me. And that was the best because it didn't 182 00:09:30,000 --> 00:09:32,320 Speaker 1: even bog me down, you know, like I wouldn't even 183 00:09:32,360 --> 00:09:35,160 Speaker 1: think about things because again I would try to justify 184 00:09:35,200 --> 00:09:38,480 Speaker 1: things like, oh, I remember they hired me to do 185 00:09:38,559 --> 00:09:41,400 Speaker 1: such and such back in two thousand tens, Like I 186 00:09:41,440 --> 00:09:45,520 Speaker 1: would be doing all these little justifications. And once the 187 00:09:45,640 --> 00:09:48,040 Speaker 1: team got in place and we put systems and kind 188 00:09:48,080 --> 00:09:51,600 Speaker 1: of rules in place, man that freedom so much it 189 00:09:51,679 --> 00:09:55,240 Speaker 1: was awesome. And then I wasn't everywhere, so I could 190 00:09:55,320 --> 00:09:58,160 Speaker 1: leverage that and charge charge more. 191 00:09:58,440 --> 00:10:02,800 Speaker 3: Essentially, Yeah, both of you guys have, like I mean, 192 00:10:02,840 --> 00:10:05,400 Speaker 3: a big part of your business is speaking engagements, right, 193 00:10:05,440 --> 00:10:07,480 Speaker 3: I mean, that's a lucrative part of your business. I 194 00:10:07,520 --> 00:10:10,160 Speaker 3: don't know what portion of it is. I'm not really asking, 195 00:10:10,200 --> 00:10:13,520 Speaker 3: but I feel like that is how can you turn 196 00:10:13,600 --> 00:10:16,360 Speaker 3: down those big juicy opportunities. I mean, and part of 197 00:10:16,400 --> 00:10:19,760 Speaker 3: like the entrepreneurial reality is like, you know, you have 198 00:10:19,800 --> 00:10:21,960 Speaker 3: an opportunity in front of you, and that idea of 199 00:10:21,960 --> 00:10:24,439 Speaker 3: that scarcity mindset, like oh my, if I turn this down, 200 00:10:24,520 --> 00:10:28,520 Speaker 3: will there be another one? Will there be another one? 201 00:10:29,000 --> 00:10:30,079 Speaker 2: How have you dealt with that? 202 00:10:30,080 --> 00:10:34,480 Speaker 1: Really? I totally can identify with that. I went through 203 00:10:34,720 --> 00:10:37,120 Speaker 1: the fear, you know, I went through fomo fear of 204 00:10:37,200 --> 00:10:39,640 Speaker 1: missing out. Oh my gosh, what's gonna happen? Look at 205 00:10:39,640 --> 00:10:41,280 Speaker 1: all the people that are gonna be there. Maybe I 206 00:10:41,320 --> 00:10:44,760 Speaker 1: should be there, Maybe it should be networking. But one 207 00:10:44,760 --> 00:10:47,520 Speaker 1: of the things when I knew about different things we 208 00:10:47,520 --> 00:10:51,880 Speaker 1: were turning down, I've been really intentional about taking those 209 00:10:51,880 --> 00:10:55,559 Speaker 1: same days or weekends and deliberately spending time with my 210 00:10:55,640 --> 00:10:59,760 Speaker 1: family or doing something that really made me feel like, oh, 211 00:10:59,800 --> 00:11:02,160 Speaker 1: you know what, I didn't miss anything because this is 212 00:11:02,160 --> 00:11:05,520 Speaker 1: where it was at, Like this, putting makeup on with 213 00:11:05,559 --> 00:11:08,320 Speaker 1: my daughter, letting her tell me I want mommy, I 214 00:11:08,360 --> 00:11:13,560 Speaker 1: want you to beat my face. Oh no. And we 215 00:11:13,640 --> 00:11:16,600 Speaker 1: had a little music makeup in mimosas with Apple cider, 216 00:11:16,640 --> 00:11:21,040 Speaker 1: of course, but us having that moment and just spending 217 00:11:21,040 --> 00:11:24,960 Speaker 1: that type of time. Honestly, it fulfilled me in such 218 00:11:24,960 --> 00:11:27,560 Speaker 1: a way, like it makes me so happy that it 219 00:11:27,600 --> 00:11:30,840 Speaker 1: also provided like the peace of mind and clarity to 220 00:11:30,880 --> 00:11:33,520 Speaker 1: go create what did fit? You know, So a lot 221 00:11:33,520 --> 00:11:36,600 Speaker 1: of things have happened over these last couple of years, 222 00:11:36,640 --> 00:11:39,720 Speaker 1: Like this past year, I launched a whole new website 223 00:11:39,800 --> 00:11:44,360 Speaker 1: at Patreseashington dot com, and I really put time into 224 00:11:44,360 --> 00:11:47,360 Speaker 1: thinking about what are the things that have truly helped 225 00:11:47,360 --> 00:11:49,559 Speaker 1: me rebuild. So when you guys go back and listen 226 00:11:49,559 --> 00:11:51,920 Speaker 1: to my first episode, I'm sure you'll hear my story 227 00:11:52,320 --> 00:11:55,960 Speaker 1: about going from you know, a seven figure business I 228 00:11:56,000 --> 00:11:58,520 Speaker 1: built out of college, to losing it all in the recession, 229 00:11:58,880 --> 00:12:01,560 Speaker 1: scraping up change, living on my brother's couch in two 230 00:12:01,600 --> 00:12:05,560 Speaker 1: thousand and nine to rebuilding everything and becoming America's money Maven. 231 00:12:06,240 --> 00:12:08,680 Speaker 1: And one of the things I got clear on during 232 00:12:08,679 --> 00:12:11,360 Speaker 1: that time is that I really felt like I was 233 00:12:11,360 --> 00:12:13,959 Speaker 1: starting to do people a disservice by not telling them 234 00:12:13,960 --> 00:12:16,360 Speaker 1: my full story. You know, It's like, how do you 235 00:12:16,440 --> 00:12:18,600 Speaker 1: end up? How do you go from your brother's couch 236 00:12:19,040 --> 00:12:21,280 Speaker 1: to now you're sitting on this couch across from Steve 237 00:12:21,320 --> 00:12:24,520 Speaker 1: Harvey on his talk show every month, like little something 238 00:12:24,559 --> 00:12:27,400 Speaker 1: happened in between you think like maybe maybe there's some 239 00:12:27,480 --> 00:12:30,240 Speaker 1: things that we could talk about. And because I only 240 00:12:30,280 --> 00:12:33,160 Speaker 1: ever had time to talk in sound bites, right, Like, 241 00:12:33,200 --> 00:12:35,840 Speaker 1: I never could really get into it the way that 242 00:12:35,920 --> 00:12:39,439 Speaker 1: I wanted to. And so over the last year and 243 00:12:39,520 --> 00:12:42,199 Speaker 1: a half it was really like just heavy on me, 244 00:12:42,360 --> 00:12:44,280 Speaker 1: Like you need to create something so you can tell 245 00:12:44,320 --> 00:12:47,360 Speaker 1: your own story, so that you can share the things 246 00:12:47,360 --> 00:12:49,920 Speaker 1: that you've done that have helped you. Like, of what 247 00:12:50,040 --> 00:12:53,520 Speaker 1: other place would I be able to talk about you know, music, 248 00:12:53,559 --> 00:12:57,400 Speaker 1: makeup and mimosas with my daughter, slash apple cider with 249 00:12:57,440 --> 00:12:59,400 Speaker 1: my daughter, Like where else could I really talk about that? 250 00:12:59,520 --> 00:13:01,600 Speaker 1: Not on the Steve Harvey Show. I mean, shout out 251 00:13:01,600 --> 00:13:04,240 Speaker 1: to see I love them, but not there. They don't 252 00:13:04,240 --> 00:13:06,400 Speaker 1: want to hear that I'm the money Maven. So I 253 00:13:06,480 --> 00:13:09,000 Speaker 1: got to only talk about money and that's it. But 254 00:13:09,080 --> 00:13:11,720 Speaker 1: I really believe and have believed for a long time, 255 00:13:12,400 --> 00:13:14,680 Speaker 1: as I'm sure I said in that interview before that 256 00:13:14,760 --> 00:13:17,400 Speaker 1: building wealth has one hundred percent nothing to do with money. 257 00:13:18,200 --> 00:13:20,480 Speaker 1: It has one hundred percent everything to do with us 258 00:13:20,480 --> 00:13:23,880 Speaker 1: in our mindsets towards money. And I believe that your 259 00:13:23,920 --> 00:13:26,920 Speaker 1: mindset really dictates what your habits are and there were 260 00:13:26,960 --> 00:13:32,360 Speaker 1: some really you know, deliberate and specific habits that I've 261 00:13:32,400 --> 00:13:35,880 Speaker 1: developed over the last several years. But I wasn't comfortable 262 00:13:35,920 --> 00:13:38,120 Speaker 1: getting out of that box at first, Like I said that, 263 00:13:38,200 --> 00:13:40,080 Speaker 1: fear of like, oh, this is what they brought me 264 00:13:40,120 --> 00:13:42,800 Speaker 1: here to do. I wasn't comfortable getting out of the box. 265 00:13:42,840 --> 00:13:45,079 Speaker 1: And so like the last year and a half, I've 266 00:13:45,120 --> 00:13:47,880 Speaker 1: been like, that's it. I'm out the box. Like I 267 00:13:47,880 --> 00:13:51,120 Speaker 1: got to get out the box by any means necessary. 268 00:13:51,520 --> 00:13:55,000 Speaker 1: And that's where, like my whole tagline chase purpose not money. 269 00:13:55,280 --> 00:13:57,960 Speaker 1: I don't only say that to encourage other people. That's 270 00:13:58,000 --> 00:14:01,720 Speaker 1: a reminder to myself, like every day that I got 271 00:14:01,720 --> 00:14:04,000 Speaker 1: to do things that fit who I am now, not 272 00:14:04,160 --> 00:14:08,280 Speaker 1: who the money maybe it was in twenty ten. No, 273 00:14:08,440 --> 00:14:10,880 Speaker 1: I love that. So what would you say, because I 274 00:14:10,920 --> 00:14:14,160 Speaker 1: know you have your podcast and the uh is it 275 00:14:14,200 --> 00:14:19,080 Speaker 1: called Redefining Wealth? Yeah, it's called the Redefining Wealth Podcast. Yeah, 276 00:14:19,160 --> 00:14:23,120 Speaker 1: So if if you were to define wealth personally for yourself, 277 00:14:23,240 --> 00:14:25,080 Speaker 1: so you know, many people would be like wealth is 278 00:14:25,120 --> 00:14:28,040 Speaker 1: having you know, a million dollars in the bank or whatever. 279 00:14:28,360 --> 00:14:32,240 Speaker 1: What is your personal definition of wealth for you? My 280 00:14:32,400 --> 00:14:35,920 Speaker 1: personal definition of wealth is the freedom to do what 281 00:14:36,000 --> 00:14:39,600 Speaker 1: I want, when I want, with people I want to 282 00:14:39,640 --> 00:14:43,800 Speaker 1: do it with. It's literally just freedom. And that was 283 00:14:43,840 --> 00:14:47,160 Speaker 1: the thing Tiff, like, I looked up long ago. But 284 00:14:47,240 --> 00:14:50,080 Speaker 1: it's funny, like I looked it up a long time ago. 285 00:14:50,200 --> 00:14:52,640 Speaker 1: I would say, maybe like two thousand and eight or nine. 286 00:14:54,120 --> 00:14:56,320 Speaker 1: This is around the time that I had lost everything 287 00:14:56,520 --> 00:14:59,080 Speaker 1: and I looked up for some reason. I was probably 288 00:14:59,400 --> 00:15:02,400 Speaker 1: blogging around in an article. But the definition of wealth, 289 00:15:02,880 --> 00:15:05,120 Speaker 1: and so when you look at it, the first few 290 00:15:05,160 --> 00:15:09,520 Speaker 1: definitions are all about material possessions and money and assets, 291 00:15:09,560 --> 00:15:11,200 Speaker 1: and it's all the stuff that we think of. And 292 00:15:11,240 --> 00:15:14,360 Speaker 1: if if you're a millennial who's connected on social media, 293 00:15:14,440 --> 00:15:17,520 Speaker 1: you think wealth is yachts and true and like luxury 294 00:15:17,600 --> 00:15:21,200 Speaker 1: travel and cars or shoes or whatever you think it is. 295 00:15:21,480 --> 00:15:24,320 Speaker 1: But when you dig really deep the if you look 296 00:15:24,320 --> 00:15:28,080 Speaker 1: at most online dictionaries, for sure, you'll see like seventh 297 00:15:28,320 --> 00:15:31,800 Speaker 1: eighth definition all the way down. It says on a 298 00:15:31,840 --> 00:15:34,360 Speaker 1: lot of them, the twelfth century definition of wealth means 299 00:15:34,400 --> 00:15:40,440 Speaker 1: well being, like the true like weao, wealth is well 300 00:15:40,480 --> 00:15:44,360 Speaker 1: being and thh the condition. So back in the day, 301 00:15:44,640 --> 00:15:48,320 Speaker 1: way back in the day, people considered wealth more like happiness. 302 00:15:48,840 --> 00:15:51,880 Speaker 1: And it's so funny how we have totally gone, you know, 303 00:15:52,320 --> 00:15:55,040 Speaker 1: to the extreme. On the other side of wealth is 304 00:15:55,120 --> 00:15:57,920 Speaker 1: just stuff. But I think we all know for ourselves 305 00:15:58,080 --> 00:16:00,560 Speaker 1: or no people who will tell us for sure that 306 00:16:00,640 --> 00:16:04,160 Speaker 1: stuff doesn't make you happy. Yeah, so those are not though, 307 00:16:04,280 --> 00:16:06,560 Speaker 1: like those are not usually exclusive, you know, like that 308 00:16:06,640 --> 00:16:10,080 Speaker 1: does not have to work hand in hand. And when 309 00:16:10,080 --> 00:16:13,840 Speaker 1: I really thought about during this kind of mini sabbatical 310 00:16:13,880 --> 00:16:16,320 Speaker 1: I've had, when I really thought about it and thought 311 00:16:16,320 --> 00:16:19,280 Speaker 1: about my life from two thousand and seven, when the 312 00:16:19,320 --> 00:16:22,240 Speaker 1: recession began for me and I started to kind of 313 00:16:22,320 --> 00:16:24,680 Speaker 1: spiral down. By two thousand and nine, I was on 314 00:16:24,720 --> 00:16:27,360 Speaker 1: that couch and when I thought about that, the things 315 00:16:27,360 --> 00:16:32,240 Speaker 1: that I was doing every day, it really had to 316 00:16:32,240 --> 00:16:34,760 Speaker 1: do with all these other areas of my life. Yes, 317 00:16:34,800 --> 00:16:37,000 Speaker 1: I was focused on my finances, but there's only so 318 00:16:37,080 --> 00:16:39,360 Speaker 1: much you can do every day on your finances, Like 319 00:16:39,400 --> 00:16:41,760 Speaker 1: there's twenty four hours in the day. Like you can't 320 00:16:41,840 --> 00:16:44,360 Speaker 1: sit and look at your budget all day, or you 321 00:16:44,400 --> 00:16:46,800 Speaker 1: can't like run your credit over and over again, or 322 00:16:47,360 --> 00:16:50,200 Speaker 1: didn't watch your stocks or whatever like all day. There's 323 00:16:50,240 --> 00:16:52,640 Speaker 1: other habits that you got to have in place. And 324 00:16:53,080 --> 00:16:57,640 Speaker 1: I just picked up some through research, some through coaching, 325 00:16:57,760 --> 00:17:01,560 Speaker 1: some through mentorship and some through that just happened intuitively, 326 00:17:02,320 --> 00:17:04,520 Speaker 1: because you know, like I said, I was pretty successful 327 00:17:04,560 --> 00:17:08,040 Speaker 1: before all the recession and all that. I just started 328 00:17:08,040 --> 00:17:10,159 Speaker 1: looking at the different areas of my life that I 329 00:17:10,200 --> 00:17:13,760 Speaker 1: really felt like had contributed to my wealth, contributed to 330 00:17:14,000 --> 00:17:17,920 Speaker 1: me being where I am today, And money was definitely one, 331 00:17:18,240 --> 00:17:21,160 Speaker 1: my work was one, but there were other areas that 332 00:17:21,240 --> 00:17:24,639 Speaker 1: I feel like just as much contributed. And that's what 333 00:17:24,680 --> 00:17:27,120 Speaker 1: I wanted to share with other people, Like, maybe if 334 00:17:27,119 --> 00:17:29,480 Speaker 1: you feel like you've been stuck and you've been trying 335 00:17:29,480 --> 00:17:31,080 Speaker 1: to do all the right things with your money and 336 00:17:31,080 --> 00:17:34,320 Speaker 1: you're still not getting ahead, maybe you gotta consider looking 337 00:17:34,359 --> 00:17:36,359 Speaker 1: at some other areas of your life to help you 338 00:17:36,400 --> 00:17:38,520 Speaker 1: get unstuck and get you closer to what you say 339 00:17:38,520 --> 00:17:39,640 Speaker 1: you want. 340 00:17:40,000 --> 00:17:44,400 Speaker 3: M What do you think it is that holds people back? 341 00:17:44,480 --> 00:17:46,800 Speaker 3: Like we get, you know, we get questions about that. 342 00:17:46,880 --> 00:17:49,119 Speaker 3: I actually just listened to a whole podcast about the 343 00:17:49,160 --> 00:17:52,399 Speaker 3: idea of being stuck. Like someone who's stuck and maybe 344 00:17:52,440 --> 00:17:54,879 Speaker 3: doesn't have the resources or doesn't think they have the 345 00:17:54,920 --> 00:17:57,359 Speaker 3: resources to get out of a certain situation or to 346 00:17:57,440 --> 00:18:00,320 Speaker 3: leave the job they're unhappy with. I mean, would you 347 00:18:00,359 --> 00:18:03,120 Speaker 3: say to people in those situations, you weren't starting from 348 00:18:03,119 --> 00:18:05,760 Speaker 3: a place where they are their own boss, you know, 349 00:18:05,840 --> 00:18:07,680 Speaker 3: like some entrepreneurs are. 350 00:18:08,840 --> 00:18:11,720 Speaker 1: Well. One of the things that helped me get unstuck 351 00:18:12,160 --> 00:18:16,040 Speaker 1: during that period, in particular when I did lose everything, 352 00:18:16,359 --> 00:18:18,440 Speaker 1: because you know, I like, like I said, I went 353 00:18:18,440 --> 00:18:20,960 Speaker 1: from a seven figure business to scraping of change, you know, 354 00:18:21,560 --> 00:18:25,159 Speaker 1: so that comes with all of the fear of you know, 355 00:18:25,240 --> 00:18:29,119 Speaker 1: people finding out, the guilt, the embarrassment, the shame, the 356 00:18:29,200 --> 00:18:32,600 Speaker 1: how did I do this? Like what is wrong with me? 357 00:18:33,160 --> 00:18:35,840 Speaker 1: And so for a period there, it was a short period, 358 00:18:35,840 --> 00:18:37,800 Speaker 1: but it was a period nonetheless where I just felt 359 00:18:37,840 --> 00:18:41,080 Speaker 1: like a failure and it was like you've lost it. 360 00:18:41,440 --> 00:18:43,679 Speaker 1: And I mean I was like twenty six years old, 361 00:18:44,240 --> 00:18:46,560 Speaker 1: and it felt like your life is over, You're done, 362 00:18:46,840 --> 00:18:52,160 Speaker 1: like you're a rap, you know. And in redefining well, 363 00:18:52,359 --> 00:18:55,040 Speaker 1: one of the first pillars is called fit, and fit 364 00:18:55,160 --> 00:18:57,760 Speaker 1: is about becoming your best self. And so a lot 365 00:18:57,800 --> 00:19:00,000 Speaker 1: of people tend to further their brows sometimes when they 366 00:19:00,080 --> 00:19:02,560 Speaker 1: hear me talk about fit because they think I'm automatically 367 00:19:02,600 --> 00:19:06,320 Speaker 1: talking about physical fitness, which is one component. But the 368 00:19:06,400 --> 00:19:09,600 Speaker 1: other thing I had to get really clear on was 369 00:19:09,840 --> 00:19:13,359 Speaker 1: my mental fitness and when you have been through different 370 00:19:13,400 --> 00:19:16,640 Speaker 1: things or failures or stepbacks, and you have been so 371 00:19:16,680 --> 00:19:20,800 Speaker 1: beat up by life, you know, your mind can go 372 00:19:20,840 --> 00:19:23,760 Speaker 1: to some dark places. Not sure if anyone's ever been there, 373 00:19:24,040 --> 00:19:26,879 Speaker 1: you know, you guys, but your mind can go to 374 00:19:26,920 --> 00:19:30,239 Speaker 1: some dark places. And one of the things that I 375 00:19:30,280 --> 00:19:34,439 Speaker 1: really needed to work through was just giving myself permission 376 00:19:36,400 --> 00:19:39,720 Speaker 1: mentally first and foremost to accept that I was in 377 00:19:39,800 --> 00:19:41,960 Speaker 1: a bad spot, like I had lost all my money, 378 00:19:41,960 --> 00:19:45,359 Speaker 1: but my mind was not bad, you know, like this 379 00:19:45,520 --> 00:19:49,959 Speaker 1: was literally an event, this is not you. And to 380 00:19:49,960 --> 00:19:53,200 Speaker 1: get unstuck. Some things that I did do was use 381 00:19:53,280 --> 00:19:56,840 Speaker 1: like community resources for therapy when I lived in Atlanta, 382 00:19:57,200 --> 00:20:00,639 Speaker 1: because I needed to talk to somebody, like my family 383 00:20:00,720 --> 00:20:02,960 Speaker 1: wasn't getting it. I'm not gonna I'm not gonna lie, 384 00:20:03,040 --> 00:20:07,080 Speaker 1: and I'm a big believer and a spiritual person and stuff, 385 00:20:07,359 --> 00:20:09,600 Speaker 1: but folks telling me to pray about it wasn't helping either, 386 00:20:09,960 --> 00:20:12,800 Speaker 1: Like it just wasn't getting me over the hump. I 387 00:20:12,840 --> 00:20:14,720 Speaker 1: would pray about it, feel like Okay, I left it 388 00:20:14,760 --> 00:20:17,680 Speaker 1: on the altar or whatever, and then like a couple 389 00:20:17,720 --> 00:20:21,640 Speaker 1: hours later, I'd be like, you know, like what happened 390 00:20:21,640 --> 00:20:24,200 Speaker 1: to my life? How did I get here, especially when 391 00:20:24,200 --> 00:20:26,600 Speaker 1: I was coming home the notices on the door and 392 00:20:26,720 --> 00:20:30,240 Speaker 1: all kind of stuff like, So going to therapy really 393 00:20:30,280 --> 00:20:36,199 Speaker 1: helped me separate who I was from what had happened, okay, 394 00:20:36,440 --> 00:20:38,800 Speaker 1: and not make those all one thing. And once I 395 00:20:38,880 --> 00:20:43,400 Speaker 1: was able to take like a step back or even 396 00:20:43,440 --> 00:20:45,360 Speaker 1: like a bird's eye view and kind of hover over 397 00:20:45,560 --> 00:20:48,960 Speaker 1: this is the situation that's going on, like look down 398 00:20:49,040 --> 00:20:52,119 Speaker 1: on that and try to, you know, move the pieces 399 00:20:52,160 --> 00:20:53,960 Speaker 1: around best you can. But when you're in it, you 400 00:20:54,000 --> 00:20:56,639 Speaker 1: can't see it. Like when I was in it, I 401 00:20:56,680 --> 00:20:59,200 Speaker 1: had done everything that I could do, so I really 402 00:20:59,200 --> 00:21:02,800 Speaker 1: felt like I had no other alternatives, Like I was 403 00:21:02,880 --> 00:21:05,159 Speaker 1: exhausted and just sick and tired of being sick and 404 00:21:05,200 --> 00:21:07,880 Speaker 1: tired at that time. And so one of the things 405 00:21:07,920 --> 00:21:11,080 Speaker 1: I always share with people is if you really feel stuck, 406 00:21:11,600 --> 00:21:16,000 Speaker 1: faith is one way to kind of help you move 407 00:21:16,040 --> 00:21:18,880 Speaker 1: on or get out of that. But becoming mentally fit 408 00:21:18,960 --> 00:21:21,840 Speaker 1: and talking to someone, talking to a professional, like I 409 00:21:21,880 --> 00:21:24,160 Speaker 1: tell people, what if your success is on the other 410 00:21:24,200 --> 00:21:28,280 Speaker 1: side of you, like sitting on somebody's couch and just saying, like, 411 00:21:28,320 --> 00:21:29,919 Speaker 1: you know what, I don't know what, I don't know, 412 00:21:30,080 --> 00:21:32,840 Speaker 1: but I know this isn't right and I need something, 413 00:21:33,080 --> 00:21:35,720 Speaker 1: and so therapy was a big, big help for me, 414 00:21:37,160 --> 00:21:40,920 Speaker 1: still is to this day. So I met with my 415 00:21:40,960 --> 00:21:43,640 Speaker 1: accountant today. I was finally paying my quarter three taxes 416 00:21:43,680 --> 00:21:47,200 Speaker 1: of all late but whatever, they're paid. And I was 417 00:21:47,240 --> 00:21:50,720 Speaker 1: asking him because sometimes you know, there's so many numbers, numbers, numbers, 418 00:21:50,720 --> 00:21:52,800 Speaker 1: and I said, okay, so you know how much did 419 00:21:52,840 --> 00:21:54,760 Speaker 1: I make for the year? And he was sharing and 420 00:21:54,760 --> 00:21:58,280 Speaker 1: I was like, okay, how come I'm that? And I 421 00:21:58,280 --> 00:22:00,239 Speaker 1: told him. I was like, how come and I'm I mean, 422 00:22:00,240 --> 00:22:02,280 Speaker 1: I'm frugal by nature just because I just I guess 423 00:22:02,320 --> 00:22:04,639 Speaker 1: I grew up frugal. But I was like, dang, you 424 00:22:04,680 --> 00:22:07,280 Speaker 1: know this is like what you know, I'm sure you 425 00:22:07,320 --> 00:22:10,919 Speaker 1: know doctor's make right, like like all paid doctor And 426 00:22:10,960 --> 00:22:13,200 Speaker 1: he was like yeah, if not more. I said, well, 427 00:22:13,600 --> 00:22:15,959 Speaker 1: how come I'm not living in one of those big houses. 428 00:22:16,000 --> 00:22:17,320 Speaker 1: I mean I did just buy a house, but those 429 00:22:17,359 --> 00:22:19,720 Speaker 1: big houses on the hill. And he was like, can 430 00:22:19,760 --> 00:22:21,800 Speaker 1: I let you in on a little secret because he 431 00:22:21,840 --> 00:22:24,280 Speaker 1: does a lot of taxes. He was like, many of 432 00:22:24,320 --> 00:22:27,320 Speaker 1: those doctors that live on the hill are broke. Yeah, 433 00:22:27,400 --> 00:22:29,640 Speaker 1: they can't afford it. Yeah, so why do you think 434 00:22:29,680 --> 00:22:32,520 Speaker 1: we do that? So what pillar kind of addresses that 435 00:22:32,520 --> 00:22:36,520 Speaker 1: that of your redefining wealth. Why is it that someone 436 00:22:36,600 --> 00:22:40,359 Speaker 1: who's making hundreds of thousands of dollars a year puts 437 00:22:40,400 --> 00:22:43,439 Speaker 1: themselves in a position that to not be able to 438 00:22:43,560 --> 00:22:47,760 Speaker 1: really afford their life? Why do we do that? You 439 00:22:47,800 --> 00:22:51,040 Speaker 1: know what, It's funny you ask which pillar because it's 440 00:22:51,080 --> 00:22:54,080 Speaker 1: really all of them. Like my big thing with reader 441 00:22:54,480 --> 00:22:57,439 Speaker 1: defining wealth, a part of my big thing one is 442 00:22:57,440 --> 00:22:59,840 Speaker 1: living your life's purpose, but the other is finding fulfillment. 443 00:23:00,280 --> 00:23:02,960 Speaker 1: And a lot of people make those decisions because they're 444 00:23:02,960 --> 00:23:07,159 Speaker 1: trying to fill a void. Right, So if you are 445 00:23:07,200 --> 00:23:10,080 Speaker 1: trying to fill the void of maybe some relationships that 446 00:23:10,119 --> 00:23:14,160 Speaker 1: didn't work out, but it could be with parents or family, friends, whatever, 447 00:23:14,480 --> 00:23:17,320 Speaker 1: and you're on this constant chase to prove yourself, then 448 00:23:17,359 --> 00:23:19,920 Speaker 1: you make those types of decisions. You don't know that 449 00:23:19,920 --> 00:23:22,080 Speaker 1: that's why you're doing it. You're not aware of it 450 00:23:22,280 --> 00:23:24,880 Speaker 1: until you go go back and maybe do some work 451 00:23:24,920 --> 00:23:27,760 Speaker 1: and look at that first pillar with the mental fitness piece. 452 00:23:27,840 --> 00:23:30,880 Speaker 1: But a lot of people just they aren't even aware 453 00:23:31,240 --> 00:23:34,280 Speaker 1: that they're doing it. Like that's why I talked about 454 00:23:34,359 --> 00:23:38,320 Speaker 1: rationalizing and rationing out lies, Like we tell ourselves so 455 00:23:38,440 --> 00:23:41,200 Speaker 1: many lies and we don't consider them to be lies. 456 00:23:41,240 --> 00:23:43,400 Speaker 1: But we create these stories in our mind and then 457 00:23:43,400 --> 00:23:46,800 Speaker 1: we justify them, and we can justify them to the 458 00:23:46,840 --> 00:23:48,680 Speaker 1: cows come home. But at the end of the day, 459 00:23:49,600 --> 00:23:51,440 Speaker 1: like right as right as mc granny used to saying, 460 00:23:51,440 --> 00:23:53,760 Speaker 1: wrong is wrong. If there's wrong, it's wrong, and if 461 00:23:53,760 --> 00:23:56,600 Speaker 1: your accountant tells you it's wrong, it's probably definitely wrong. 462 00:23:57,080 --> 00:24:00,399 Speaker 1: But all of these areas for me, these pills, like 463 00:24:00,440 --> 00:24:02,879 Speaker 1: I really believe when people are just because you're a doctor, 464 00:24:02,880 --> 00:24:05,840 Speaker 1: that doesn't mean you love it. Just because you're a lawyer, 465 00:24:05,920 --> 00:24:07,680 Speaker 1: that doesn't mean you love it. As a matter of fact, 466 00:24:07,720 --> 00:24:09,520 Speaker 1: most of my friends who are lawyers kind of hate 467 00:24:09,520 --> 00:24:12,639 Speaker 1: it in some former fashion. They're always complaining about it, 468 00:24:12,680 --> 00:24:15,920 Speaker 1: even though they make great money. And so the workpiece, 469 00:24:15,960 --> 00:24:20,280 Speaker 1: which is about living out your life's purpose, I speak 470 00:24:20,320 --> 00:24:22,120 Speaker 1: to the fact that there are a lot of us 471 00:24:22,160 --> 00:24:28,240 Speaker 1: who made career choices in particular because we were advised to. 472 00:24:29,080 --> 00:24:32,560 Speaker 1: Because I know, tif you're Nigerian and I'm Bellegian. You know, 473 00:24:33,359 --> 00:24:36,199 Speaker 1: they can be very persuasive parents who's trying to you know, 474 00:24:36,240 --> 00:24:39,719 Speaker 1: you got about three or four options to work from. 475 00:24:39,800 --> 00:24:41,760 Speaker 1: You know, I didn't go down that path. So my 476 00:24:41,840 --> 00:24:44,840 Speaker 1: dad was very disappointed that I wasn't an attorney, a doctor, 477 00:24:44,880 --> 00:24:51,320 Speaker 1: a pharmacist or whatever. Those are the big three, you know, 478 00:24:51,480 --> 00:24:54,400 Speaker 1: so when you are not, I really believe that when 479 00:24:54,440 --> 00:24:57,320 Speaker 1: people are not living in their purpose, it is really 480 00:24:57,400 --> 00:25:00,880 Speaker 1: easy for them to not be able to say priorities 481 00:25:01,640 --> 00:25:05,840 Speaker 1: because you're trying to fill the void. So if what 482 00:25:05,880 --> 00:25:09,040 Speaker 1: you're doing day in and day out does not really 483 00:25:09,680 --> 00:25:12,800 Speaker 1: just fill you with joy, you know, and just true 484 00:25:13,200 --> 00:25:15,199 Speaker 1: make you feel like, man, this is what I'm here for, 485 00:25:15,280 --> 00:25:18,280 Speaker 1: this is what I was called to do, then you 486 00:25:18,400 --> 00:25:20,199 Speaker 1: do stuff like, well, at least I got to have 487 00:25:20,280 --> 00:25:22,639 Speaker 1: a house that I love that shows that like I 488 00:25:22,800 --> 00:25:25,560 Speaker 1: made it, you know, or at least I have to 489 00:25:25,640 --> 00:25:28,119 Speaker 1: drive nice, or at least I have to wear the 490 00:25:28,119 --> 00:25:31,280 Speaker 1: best clothes. So we start to rationalize, and it happens 491 00:25:31,400 --> 00:25:34,080 Speaker 1: every day, and many of us do it in different ways. 492 00:25:34,119 --> 00:25:36,000 Speaker 1: Just some of us do it to our own detriment. 493 00:25:36,480 --> 00:25:38,919 Speaker 1: I think everyone has a little something in them, but 494 00:25:39,240 --> 00:25:41,760 Speaker 1: some of us just go way too far. But I 495 00:25:41,800 --> 00:25:45,200 Speaker 1: don't believe you can recondition what you haven't recognize, and 496 00:25:45,200 --> 00:25:47,000 Speaker 1: that's where we have to start, is like doing the 497 00:25:47,000 --> 00:25:49,040 Speaker 1: work to recognize what are those things that kind of 498 00:25:49,040 --> 00:25:49,680 Speaker 1: set us off. 499 00:25:50,960 --> 00:25:53,560 Speaker 3: I feel like it's almost the curse of the word supposed, 500 00:25:53,840 --> 00:25:56,399 Speaker 3: Like I'm supposed to fill in the blank. I'm supposed 501 00:25:56,400 --> 00:25:57,920 Speaker 3: to have a house, I'm supposed to have a kid, 502 00:25:57,960 --> 00:25:59,800 Speaker 3: I'm supposed to have the car I'm supposed to. But 503 00:26:00,280 --> 00:26:02,240 Speaker 3: sometimes I want to shake people and be like, who 504 00:26:02,280 --> 00:26:05,200 Speaker 3: told you you're supposed to? And I think, yeah, part 505 00:26:05,240 --> 00:26:08,040 Speaker 3: of it is like you internalize. I think you grow 506 00:26:08,119 --> 00:26:10,040 Speaker 3: up like you don't realize it as you're older, but 507 00:26:10,080 --> 00:26:13,040 Speaker 3: you maybe internalize the ambitions of your parents or like 508 00:26:13,080 --> 00:26:16,679 Speaker 3: what they think is is right. And of course social 509 00:26:16,720 --> 00:26:19,439 Speaker 3: media you can you can obviously cee. You can just 510 00:26:19,480 --> 00:26:22,399 Speaker 3: see everyone living their life and immediately compare yourself to it, 511 00:26:22,440 --> 00:26:25,399 Speaker 3: and it'll feel like you're supposed to be doing you know, 512 00:26:26,160 --> 00:26:29,359 Speaker 3: dot dot dot and I and I. I find myself 513 00:26:29,359 --> 00:26:34,160 Speaker 3: now in my thirties, really pushing against that, the notions 514 00:26:34,200 --> 00:26:36,639 Speaker 3: that that seem like I'm supposed to be doing this 515 00:26:36,720 --> 00:26:38,240 Speaker 3: and wondering like why am I supposed to? 516 00:26:38,320 --> 00:26:40,080 Speaker 2: Why am I supposed to be buying a house right now? 517 00:26:40,160 --> 00:26:41,840 Speaker 2: Right just because I have money. 518 00:26:41,880 --> 00:26:45,359 Speaker 1: I've got with some girlfriends just this past weekend and 519 00:26:45,400 --> 00:26:47,399 Speaker 1: we were doing the cousin is supposed to. It was 520 00:26:47,440 --> 00:26:48,959 Speaker 1: the should you should? 521 00:26:49,200 --> 00:26:49,360 Speaker 2: Yeah. 522 00:26:50,320 --> 00:26:54,560 Speaker 1: It's like we were all like you know what every time, 523 00:26:55,280 --> 00:26:57,840 Speaker 1: and that especially with taking on events or going to 524 00:26:57,880 --> 00:27:01,280 Speaker 1: speaking engagements, so those types of things that every time 525 00:27:01,359 --> 00:27:03,320 Speaker 1: I get asked to do something, and it's not like 526 00:27:03,320 --> 00:27:07,520 Speaker 1: a hell yeah, if it's remotely well, I guess I should, 527 00:27:07,760 --> 00:27:11,200 Speaker 1: I stop myself, like and that has been a very 528 00:27:11,240 --> 00:27:14,119 Speaker 1: conscious choice. But I realized that I was very into 529 00:27:14,680 --> 00:27:17,000 Speaker 1: I mean, I guess I should do it because and 530 00:27:17,040 --> 00:27:20,600 Speaker 1: then searching for the dot dot dot like, oh it 531 00:27:20,680 --> 00:27:23,439 Speaker 1: might be great networking, Oh so and so is going 532 00:27:23,520 --> 00:27:26,600 Speaker 1: to be there, Oh well maybe I can, and don't 533 00:27:26,640 --> 00:27:28,400 Speaker 1: you know, like most of the time that stuff never 534 00:27:28,440 --> 00:27:31,880 Speaker 1: pans out like very rarely. It's like, really the things 535 00:27:31,880 --> 00:27:34,200 Speaker 1: that I go to where I have no expectation is 536 00:27:34,240 --> 00:27:37,880 Speaker 1: where all like the juicy great stuff happens. Like the 537 00:27:37,920 --> 00:27:40,560 Speaker 1: person I meet in the bathroom, you know, sitting on 538 00:27:40,600 --> 00:27:43,800 Speaker 1: the random couch in the ladies room, or the person 539 00:27:43,800 --> 00:27:48,720 Speaker 1: I meet broom sick about the person I meet about 540 00:27:48,760 --> 00:27:51,760 Speaker 1: and like I meet in the hallway, or it's some 541 00:27:51,840 --> 00:27:54,439 Speaker 1: random occurrence that I that I really couldn't have planned 542 00:27:54,440 --> 00:27:58,520 Speaker 1: for any way. But the should are not always what 543 00:27:58,640 --> 00:28:02,199 Speaker 1: even pans out to be any thing worthy. You know, 544 00:28:02,840 --> 00:28:05,679 Speaker 1: I'm like, every time I say I should if that 545 00:28:05,760 --> 00:28:08,520 Speaker 1: even comes up, then I have to examine that before 546 00:28:08,560 --> 00:28:13,240 Speaker 1: I move forward. Yeah, oh my goodness. I'm just like, 547 00:28:13,720 --> 00:28:16,440 Speaker 1: it's scary though to and I and I've been through 548 00:28:16,480 --> 00:28:20,000 Speaker 1: so many transitions where and typically as soon as you transition, 549 00:28:20,160 --> 00:28:22,840 Speaker 1: you drop right And that drop is what people are 550 00:28:22,840 --> 00:28:25,080 Speaker 1: afraid of. So you know, when I transition from I 551 00:28:25,080 --> 00:28:27,000 Speaker 1: don't want to do one on ones anymore, all of 552 00:28:27,040 --> 00:28:30,520 Speaker 1: a sudden, I took a drop in income for the 553 00:28:30,600 --> 00:28:32,600 Speaker 1: first few months, and I was like, oh, why did 554 00:28:32,600 --> 00:28:35,119 Speaker 1: I do this? And then rebounded when I was like, 555 00:28:35,119 --> 00:28:37,200 Speaker 1: you know what, I like doing these in person classes. 556 00:28:37,520 --> 00:28:38,640 Speaker 1: And then when I said I don't want to do 557 00:28:38,680 --> 00:28:41,360 Speaker 1: in person classes anymore, the drop happened. And I know 558 00:28:41,440 --> 00:28:45,680 Speaker 1: that I'm ready to transition. And even though I'm like, Tippy, 559 00:28:45,720 --> 00:28:50,000 Speaker 1: You're gonna be fine, it is scary to say, but 560 00:28:50,000 --> 00:28:52,960 Speaker 1: but that drop. Am I gonna be okay? Am I 561 00:28:53,000 --> 00:28:55,080 Speaker 1: gonna Is this the time that I'm not gonna recover 562 00:28:55,200 --> 00:28:57,720 Speaker 1: from that drop? I think that's what people are afraid 563 00:28:57,760 --> 00:28:59,760 Speaker 1: of most. Like, I know that I want to take 564 00:28:59,760 --> 00:29:02,959 Speaker 1: a that back, and I don't even know what that 565 00:29:03,000 --> 00:29:05,080 Speaker 1: looks like in some way, in so many ways I have, 566 00:29:05,240 --> 00:29:07,600 Speaker 1: and then I filled it with other things. I'm like, oh, 567 00:29:07,680 --> 00:29:13,360 Speaker 1: you know what, I want to do these things. I'm 568 00:29:13,400 --> 00:29:17,080 Speaker 1: so busy today. Honestly though, I had a terrible day 569 00:29:17,560 --> 00:29:19,840 Speaker 1: and I was like and normally like I'm really up 570 00:29:20,240 --> 00:29:22,600 Speaker 1: upbeat and have to go lucky, and I don't notice 571 00:29:22,640 --> 00:29:24,720 Speaker 1: how much I have going on. But when you have 572 00:29:24,760 --> 00:29:26,960 Speaker 1: a terrible day, you start to realize. And I was like, Oh, 573 00:29:27,000 --> 00:29:31,080 Speaker 1: throw everything away, everybody, nobody, I'm going back to teaching 574 00:29:31,080 --> 00:29:34,520 Speaker 1: preschool where the babies. I felt like that. Not too 575 00:29:34,560 --> 00:29:36,720 Speaker 1: long ago. I posted that in one of the groups 576 00:29:36,720 --> 00:29:38,720 Speaker 1: that were in. I was like, have you ever just 577 00:29:38,800 --> 00:29:41,560 Speaker 1: been like, forget it. I'm gonna start from scratch. I 578 00:29:41,600 --> 00:29:45,000 Speaker 1: want a whole new name. I might need another husband, 579 00:29:45,240 --> 00:29:47,480 Speaker 1: a different husband who could give me a different last name. 580 00:29:47,520 --> 00:29:51,040 Speaker 1: I'm throwing everything out, Like I think that that is 581 00:29:51,080 --> 00:29:55,840 Speaker 1: such a natural part of entrepreneurship. Like if you don't 582 00:29:55,840 --> 00:29:58,720 Speaker 1: want to stop everything that you're doing at least once 583 00:29:58,800 --> 00:30:01,920 Speaker 1: or twice a year, don't know, like I don't know 584 00:30:01,920 --> 00:30:04,320 Speaker 1: what you're doing, because that's I think that you have. 585 00:30:04,440 --> 00:30:06,360 Speaker 1: First of all, you have to have that level of crazy, 586 00:30:06,400 --> 00:30:09,840 Speaker 1: I think, but that's the thing that makes you just 587 00:30:10,000 --> 00:30:12,960 Speaker 1: like also keep pushing in an odd way, because like 588 00:30:13,000 --> 00:30:15,240 Speaker 1: I'll have a day like that, and then the next 589 00:30:15,320 --> 00:30:18,680 Speaker 1: day I'm like, oh on devil, you know, I feel 590 00:30:18,680 --> 00:30:23,200 Speaker 1: like this come back, like there's resurgence of power, like 591 00:30:23,560 --> 00:30:26,120 Speaker 1: absolutely not that will not happen to me today. And 592 00:30:26,160 --> 00:30:28,640 Speaker 1: then I get like ninety seven things done in one 593 00:30:28,720 --> 00:30:30,760 Speaker 1: day that totally made up for the three that I've 594 00:30:30,760 --> 00:30:34,040 Speaker 1: fumbled on the day before. So you know, I don't know, 595 00:30:34,080 --> 00:30:35,600 Speaker 1: but I totally get you. 596 00:30:38,200 --> 00:30:40,600 Speaker 2: What are some ways let's talk about the business. 597 00:30:40,640 --> 00:30:42,440 Speaker 3: I like to talk about the money the money hunter, 598 00:30:42,600 --> 00:30:44,640 Speaker 3: but like with your businesses, I mean you're both in 599 00:30:45,240 --> 00:30:49,280 Speaker 3: sort of uh similar businesses, I guess, But what are 600 00:30:49,480 --> 00:30:51,800 Speaker 3: can you talk about, like real talk about the different 601 00:30:51,840 --> 00:30:54,000 Speaker 3: income streams that you have from your business and how 602 00:30:54,040 --> 00:30:56,720 Speaker 3: you sort of diversify that. I know that's a big 603 00:30:56,720 --> 00:30:59,000 Speaker 3: component of like being an entrepreneur today is not just 604 00:30:59,040 --> 00:31:02,200 Speaker 3: having one like all your income coming from one source. 605 00:31:02,760 --> 00:31:04,680 Speaker 3: The same way you don't want to like put all 606 00:31:04,720 --> 00:31:06,800 Speaker 3: of your money in one savings account forever. You want 607 00:31:06,840 --> 00:31:08,960 Speaker 3: to diversify. 608 00:31:09,080 --> 00:31:12,600 Speaker 1: Yeah, So there's a couple different things although I'm like, 609 00:31:12,720 --> 00:31:15,640 Speaker 1: I'm in transition mode, right. So I used to have 610 00:31:15,760 --> 00:31:19,760 Speaker 1: all the these products and smaller programs and I would 611 00:31:20,320 --> 00:31:23,120 Speaker 1: offer them to churches and nonprofits and they would really 612 00:31:23,160 --> 00:31:25,760 Speaker 1: pay me. So a lot of what I do I 613 00:31:25,800 --> 00:31:31,680 Speaker 1: don't necessarily charge like an individual. I've always been kind 614 00:31:31,680 --> 00:31:35,719 Speaker 1: of more inclined to really just I mean, similar to Tiffany. 615 00:31:35,720 --> 00:31:39,600 Speaker 1: I would say, like, nurture, nurture people, nurture the audience, 616 00:31:39,680 --> 00:31:43,360 Speaker 1: but then charge the brands, right or charge whoever that 617 00:31:43,520 --> 00:31:46,840 Speaker 1: would bring me out. So speaking is a big component 618 00:31:46,920 --> 00:31:50,400 Speaker 1: of my income. Also, being a spokesperson or a brand ambassador, 619 00:31:51,480 --> 00:31:54,920 Speaker 1: over the last few years has become a great portion 620 00:31:55,000 --> 00:31:57,880 Speaker 1: of income. And I actually look forward to doing those 621 00:31:57,920 --> 00:32:00,600 Speaker 1: because I could work with fewer brands that I really like, 622 00:32:00,800 --> 00:32:04,920 Speaker 1: but I just charge you more and so I don't 623 00:32:04,920 --> 00:32:08,000 Speaker 1: have to do a million smaller things, which goes back 624 00:32:08,000 --> 00:32:10,120 Speaker 1: to the whole the family piece I was talking about 625 00:32:10,120 --> 00:32:15,400 Speaker 1: in the beginning. And then some of those partners they 626 00:32:15,440 --> 00:32:18,840 Speaker 1: pay for my radio segment. I still am on the 627 00:32:18,840 --> 00:32:22,360 Speaker 1: Steve Harvey Morning Show. I still have a weekly segment 628 00:32:22,560 --> 00:32:27,080 Speaker 1: about two to three million listeners fifty four cities, and 629 00:32:27,120 --> 00:32:30,000 Speaker 1: I've been on there now every week for about three 630 00:32:30,040 --> 00:32:33,680 Speaker 1: and a half years. So there's some back end stuff 631 00:32:33,680 --> 00:32:37,640 Speaker 1: that I get through my partnership with iHeartRadio, which is 632 00:32:37,680 --> 00:32:41,480 Speaker 1: actually who helped me launch the podcast. They really wanted 633 00:32:41,520 --> 00:32:44,320 Speaker 1: to deepen the car, help me deepen the conversation, but 634 00:32:44,440 --> 00:32:48,280 Speaker 1: also use that as a tool to promote to their sponsors. 635 00:32:48,960 --> 00:32:51,800 Speaker 1: And the thing I think I'm getting most excited about 636 00:32:51,880 --> 00:32:53,720 Speaker 1: I haven't done it in a long time though. It 637 00:32:53,800 --> 00:32:57,360 Speaker 1: is like group coaching, like like you know, like you said, Tiffany, 638 00:32:57,400 --> 00:32:59,360 Speaker 1: you go in and out. So I'm in that dip 639 00:32:59,440 --> 00:33:01,680 Speaker 1: right now because I totally shut off my one on 640 00:33:01,680 --> 00:33:06,280 Speaker 1: one coaching because it just didn't fit anymore. Like I was, like, 641 00:33:06,400 --> 00:33:09,240 Speaker 1: I mean I could, I should, but I don't want to. 642 00:33:09,840 --> 00:33:14,600 Speaker 1: Like I really want to walk women, especially high achieving women, 643 00:33:15,240 --> 00:33:20,520 Speaker 1: through what these pillars really mean, you know, for redefining wealth, 644 00:33:20,600 --> 00:33:22,640 Speaker 1: like the areas that we can really work in on 645 00:33:22,720 --> 00:33:24,640 Speaker 1: our lives, especially if we know that we have a 646 00:33:24,680 --> 00:33:28,320 Speaker 1: full life, but something deep down inside is still unfulfilled. 647 00:33:29,000 --> 00:33:31,960 Speaker 1: Because I think if there is that unfulfillment, eventually, it's 648 00:33:32,000 --> 00:33:35,040 Speaker 1: going to lead to financial mismanagement in some form or fashion. 649 00:33:35,480 --> 00:33:38,040 Speaker 1: So I feel like my path to helping people get 650 00:33:38,040 --> 00:33:40,960 Speaker 1: to their wealth is making sure that there's well being 651 00:33:41,080 --> 00:33:43,800 Speaker 1: in all the other areas of their lives, and then 652 00:33:43,840 --> 00:33:46,280 Speaker 1: we can talk about how to manage you know, the 653 00:33:46,280 --> 00:33:49,280 Speaker 1: money that you do have wisely. But I feel like 654 00:33:49,280 --> 00:33:51,920 Speaker 1: if we don't address some of these other air areas, 655 00:33:52,040 --> 00:33:53,360 Speaker 1: you'll always be a hot mess. 656 00:33:53,800 --> 00:33:56,840 Speaker 3: So yeah, don't you feel like sometimes people focus on 657 00:33:56,920 --> 00:33:59,000 Speaker 3: like the bottom line, like they're like, Okay, as soon 658 00:33:59,000 --> 00:34:00,760 Speaker 3: as I finish law school, then I'll have a social life, 659 00:34:00,760 --> 00:34:02,320 Speaker 3: as soon as as soon as I get that promotion, 660 00:34:02,440 --> 00:34:05,520 Speaker 3: then I'll focus on you know that that mole that 661 00:34:05,560 --> 00:34:07,760 Speaker 3: I have on my left shoulders, you know, maybe not 662 00:34:07,800 --> 00:34:08,719 Speaker 3: that serious too. 663 00:34:09,000 --> 00:34:11,640 Speaker 1: That is no way to live. That is no way 664 00:34:11,680 --> 00:34:14,920 Speaker 1: to live. And that's what like I did this group 665 00:34:15,000 --> 00:34:18,759 Speaker 1: coaching with Steve Harvey's group Act Like a Success. That's 666 00:34:18,840 --> 00:34:21,440 Speaker 1: kind of where I piloted this, and the results have 667 00:34:21,560 --> 00:34:24,600 Speaker 1: been so phenomenal, so moving. But one of the things 668 00:34:24,600 --> 00:34:27,839 Speaker 1: that hit me recently was one of the participants sent 669 00:34:27,880 --> 00:34:30,640 Speaker 1: me a message and said, you know, in the fit 670 00:34:31,160 --> 00:34:34,240 Speaker 1: in the fifth pillar, the first pillar I basically shared 671 00:34:34,320 --> 00:34:38,480 Speaker 1: with the ladies. I said, you know what, if you 672 00:34:38,680 --> 00:34:41,760 Speaker 1: have a vision for your life, you have a duty 673 00:34:41,800 --> 00:34:44,840 Speaker 1: and a responsibility to protect the vessel that's needed to 674 00:34:44,880 --> 00:34:48,279 Speaker 1: execute the vision, Like we cannot go and go and 675 00:34:48,320 --> 00:34:51,840 Speaker 1: go and hustle and grind and then neglect the only 676 00:34:51,880 --> 00:34:54,680 Speaker 1: body we have, right like that, you only get one, 677 00:34:55,440 --> 00:34:58,759 Speaker 1: Like you can't neglect this body, put garbage in it 678 00:34:58,960 --> 00:35:02,240 Speaker 1: and expect to get like great results out Like you can't. 679 00:35:02,280 --> 00:35:04,319 Speaker 1: And one of the things that I said is in 680 00:35:04,360 --> 00:35:06,960 Speaker 1: the next seven days, for any of you who are 681 00:35:07,800 --> 00:35:12,960 Speaker 1: ignoring any slight pain, any discomfort, anything that you've questioned 682 00:35:14,400 --> 00:35:16,880 Speaker 1: and it's been going on for weeks or months or 683 00:35:16,960 --> 00:35:19,200 Speaker 1: years and you've been putting it off, I want you 684 00:35:19,320 --> 00:35:21,719 Speaker 1: to figure out who the specialist, who the doctor is 685 00:35:21,760 --> 00:35:23,680 Speaker 1: you need to go to and make an appointment within 686 00:35:23,719 --> 00:35:26,400 Speaker 1: the next seven days, Right, I think about sixty or 687 00:35:26,440 --> 00:35:29,120 Speaker 1: seventy percent of the people actually did it. And one 688 00:35:29,160 --> 00:35:33,719 Speaker 1: woman ended up sending me a message and sharing that 689 00:35:33,760 --> 00:35:37,920 Speaker 1: she found a lump on her breast and that they 690 00:35:38,280 --> 00:35:42,279 Speaker 1: were catching it just in time. Wow, And that was 691 00:35:42,400 --> 00:35:46,160 Speaker 1: like I'm sitting here reading this freaking direct message and 692 00:35:46,200 --> 00:35:50,080 Speaker 1: I'm like wow, Like, so what good would it be 693 00:35:50,160 --> 00:35:51,960 Speaker 1: for you to be And she had a great job 694 00:35:52,040 --> 00:35:53,759 Speaker 1: all this stuff, but what good is it for you? 695 00:35:53,800 --> 00:35:55,680 Speaker 1: To make one hundred and fifty two hundred thousand dollars 696 00:35:55,719 --> 00:35:59,279 Speaker 1: a year and you ain't even here and in the 697 00:35:59,320 --> 00:36:02,960 Speaker 1: next day because you haven't taken care of yourself, Like 698 00:36:03,080 --> 00:36:05,680 Speaker 1: what good is that? You know? I always think of 699 00:36:05,760 --> 00:36:10,080 Speaker 1: like Steve Jobs, like this man who shifted, like no 700 00:36:10,120 --> 00:36:13,520 Speaker 1: one's life is the same and he got here. No 701 00:36:13,520 --> 00:36:16,799 Speaker 1: matter how much money that this billionaire man had, he 702 00:36:17,719 --> 00:36:20,000 Speaker 1: is not here. And I always think that that, like, 703 00:36:20,880 --> 00:36:24,640 Speaker 1: you can't wealth your way to health necessarily. You know, 704 00:36:24,680 --> 00:36:26,200 Speaker 1: of course there are some things, like you know, there's 705 00:36:26,400 --> 00:36:29,160 Speaker 1: medicine and doctors, but ultimately, if you don't take the 706 00:36:29,200 --> 00:36:30,600 Speaker 1: time to take care of yourself. And I have to 707 00:36:30,600 --> 00:36:32,520 Speaker 1: say that I'm not here to judge whether he did 708 00:36:32,600 --> 00:36:34,480 Speaker 1: or did it, but it just just goes to show 709 00:36:34,520 --> 00:36:38,560 Speaker 1: that there's just there's no substitute for health, no amount 710 00:36:38,560 --> 00:36:43,880 Speaker 1: of money that can guarantee you know, your life here. Wow, 711 00:36:44,040 --> 00:36:46,040 Speaker 1: that's just really And that's why I say that pillar 712 00:36:46,280 --> 00:36:49,799 Speaker 1: is not about being skinny. So when people seem fit, 713 00:36:50,040 --> 00:36:52,000 Speaker 1: you know, they're like, oh, you want me to just 714 00:36:52,040 --> 00:36:53,960 Speaker 1: go to the gym. You're talking about being skinny, that's 715 00:36:53,960 --> 00:36:56,200 Speaker 1: easy for you. First of all, I have been thin 716 00:36:56,360 --> 00:36:59,360 Speaker 1: relatively my entire life. I've also had high blood pressure. 717 00:37:00,080 --> 00:37:04,200 Speaker 1: I've also had issues with like acidic acid and my stomach, 718 00:37:04,360 --> 00:37:07,840 Speaker 1: and like a gap in my esasagus that was causing 719 00:37:07,880 --> 00:37:10,759 Speaker 1: all kind of issues and all kinds of stuff like 720 00:37:11,960 --> 00:37:15,800 Speaker 1: being thin doesn't matter, That doesn't make you healthy. And 721 00:37:15,920 --> 00:37:17,560 Speaker 1: at the end of the day, even if I say 722 00:37:17,560 --> 00:37:19,600 Speaker 1: that what I'm doing is to leave a legacy for 723 00:37:19,760 --> 00:37:21,840 Speaker 1: my daughter, wouldn't it be nicer for me to just 724 00:37:21,920 --> 00:37:24,399 Speaker 1: live a little longer so I could also be here 725 00:37:24,440 --> 00:37:27,120 Speaker 1: for her. Yeah, I'm not working to make money to 726 00:37:27,280 --> 00:37:29,120 Speaker 1: just make sure she goes to school death free, like 727 00:37:29,200 --> 00:37:32,600 Speaker 1: I'd like to be at the graduation. That'd be nice. 728 00:37:32,680 --> 00:37:34,839 Speaker 1: And so that those are some of the things over 729 00:37:34,880 --> 00:37:38,320 Speaker 1: these several years where I started to take more control 730 00:37:38,360 --> 00:37:40,480 Speaker 1: of my health. I stopped with all that, Oh, i'm 731 00:37:40,520 --> 00:37:43,880 Speaker 1: young girl. By I mean i'm young, I ain't old old, 732 00:37:44,200 --> 00:37:49,759 Speaker 1: but I'm not twenty. Don't it get really get thirty? Though? 733 00:37:49,840 --> 00:37:52,799 Speaker 1: I was just told that, I said, I remember all 734 00:37:52,840 --> 00:37:59,400 Speaker 1: of this in my twenties. I was boxing yesterday and 735 00:37:59,520 --> 00:38:01,680 Speaker 1: I still feel it in my lower back, all this 736 00:38:01,719 --> 00:38:04,160 Speaker 1: little turn your body quick and all this. I'm like, sir, 737 00:38:04,280 --> 00:38:08,200 Speaker 1: you're twenty something. Little coach like hold on now. But 738 00:38:08,200 --> 00:38:11,000 Speaker 1: but yeah, it's not just about that. It's like an 739 00:38:11,040 --> 00:38:13,200 Speaker 1: overall overarching thing. 740 00:38:14,360 --> 00:38:16,680 Speaker 2: Now real quick. You you're married, right. 741 00:38:17,480 --> 00:38:19,120 Speaker 1: I am ten years in December. 742 00:38:19,320 --> 00:38:23,160 Speaker 2: Congratulations show a decade. 743 00:38:23,239 --> 00:38:23,759 Speaker 1: I love it. 744 00:38:25,560 --> 00:38:27,880 Speaker 2: I mean, I'm trying to make a six months married. 745 00:38:30,080 --> 00:38:33,960 Speaker 1: I know, congress both of you. I know I liked 746 00:38:34,000 --> 00:38:36,440 Speaker 1: your little pictures and stuff on Facebook. I was lurking 747 00:38:36,520 --> 00:38:40,640 Speaker 1: and oh so happy for both of you. Welcome to 748 00:38:40,640 --> 00:38:41,000 Speaker 1: the fold. 749 00:38:42,560 --> 00:38:44,440 Speaker 3: Well, you are a veteran, but I was going to 750 00:38:44,480 --> 00:38:46,319 Speaker 3: ask if you wanted to talk about how you and 751 00:38:46,360 --> 00:38:48,160 Speaker 3: your husband, you know, if is he part of this 752 00:38:48,400 --> 00:38:50,759 Speaker 3: of the strategy? You know that not strategy, but you know, 753 00:38:50,800 --> 00:38:52,960 Speaker 3: when you took a step back from your whatever you 754 00:38:53,000 --> 00:38:55,520 Speaker 3: were doing in your business and wanted a transition. I mean, 755 00:38:55,960 --> 00:38:57,840 Speaker 3: how do you guys talk to each other about that? 756 00:38:57,920 --> 00:39:00,960 Speaker 3: And where is he incorporated and supporting and vice versa. 757 00:39:01,080 --> 00:39:05,399 Speaker 1: Oh yeah, So the second pillar actually for redefining wealth 758 00:39:05,480 --> 00:39:09,800 Speaker 1: is people, and people is all about creating relationships that matter. 759 00:39:10,480 --> 00:39:12,880 Speaker 1: And one of the things after my daughter got me 760 00:39:13,040 --> 00:39:16,200 Speaker 1: all the way together in the kitchen that one day, 761 00:39:16,239 --> 00:39:18,960 Speaker 1: that one Sunday, I talked to my husband about it, 762 00:39:19,000 --> 00:39:21,799 Speaker 1: and he was like, I mean, well, yeah, I'm like, 763 00:39:21,840 --> 00:39:23,239 Speaker 1: what do you mean. Yeah, you know. I first told 764 00:39:23,320 --> 00:39:27,600 Speaker 1: him like can you believe and he was like, yeah, totally, yeah, 765 00:39:27,719 --> 00:39:30,719 Speaker 1: totally believe it. I was like, you know, when you 766 00:39:30,760 --> 00:39:33,200 Speaker 1: were looking for a little camaraderie and thought someone would 767 00:39:33,200 --> 00:39:35,040 Speaker 1: have your back, and he gave me none of that 768 00:39:35,200 --> 00:39:39,239 Speaker 1: because he's a real friend. So my husband and I 769 00:39:39,360 --> 00:39:43,760 Speaker 1: ended up having a great conversation too, and that really 770 00:39:43,800 --> 00:39:48,719 Speaker 1: began the beginning of us like really being more intentional 771 00:39:48,719 --> 00:39:53,120 Speaker 1: about not having our phone out during dinner and when 772 00:39:53,280 --> 00:39:56,320 Speaker 1: someone's talking to you, you look up from the phone, 773 00:39:56,880 --> 00:39:58,560 Speaker 1: like you don't keep looking at the phone like I 774 00:39:58,560 --> 00:40:01,000 Speaker 1: hear you, I hear you, go ahead. Meanwhile you're like 775 00:40:01,120 --> 00:40:03,920 Speaker 1: laser focused on your text message or your email or whatever. 776 00:40:04,640 --> 00:40:07,000 Speaker 1: We had to work through some things that we could do, 777 00:40:07,560 --> 00:40:12,880 Speaker 1: one to really I think, rebuild and continue to build 778 00:40:12,960 --> 00:40:15,480 Speaker 1: intimacy and our marriage, but also to be a better 779 00:40:15,520 --> 00:40:19,959 Speaker 1: example for our daughter. And one of the greatest things 780 00:40:19,960 --> 00:40:21,680 Speaker 1: that you can give your spouse is just your time 781 00:40:21,719 --> 00:40:25,120 Speaker 1: and attention. And it's really easy. You know, when I 782 00:40:25,160 --> 00:40:27,880 Speaker 1: was sleeping on the couch, my husband was too. You know, 783 00:40:27,960 --> 00:40:31,640 Speaker 1: he took a job at Taco Bell and was working 784 00:40:31,680 --> 00:40:35,399 Speaker 1: at Taco Bell having people throw open faced tacos through 785 00:40:35,400 --> 00:40:38,120 Speaker 1: the drive through in his face like he went through 786 00:40:38,160 --> 00:40:40,880 Speaker 1: it during that time. And so while I've been building 787 00:40:40,920 --> 00:40:43,800 Speaker 1: this brand, he's been rebuilding himself and now he again 788 00:40:43,880 --> 00:40:47,080 Speaker 1: has a seven figure business as well. And one of 789 00:40:47,120 --> 00:40:51,239 Speaker 1: the things that we attribute that to is not just 790 00:40:52,320 --> 00:40:54,359 Speaker 1: you know, getting clear about what we wanted to do 791 00:40:54,480 --> 00:40:57,799 Speaker 1: and chasing our passions and all that stuff. It's also 792 00:40:57,880 --> 00:41:01,719 Speaker 1: the support that we've given each other in the time, 793 00:41:01,560 --> 00:41:03,880 Speaker 1: time and attention we put in. Like we're very deliberate 794 00:41:03,920 --> 00:41:06,080 Speaker 1: about date night. There was a time around the same 795 00:41:06,120 --> 00:41:09,719 Speaker 1: time that my daughter got with me real tough in 796 00:41:09,760 --> 00:41:14,080 Speaker 1: the kitchen. You know, we were doing deliberate date nights 797 00:41:14,200 --> 00:41:17,239 Speaker 1: every week for years, even when we were broke. When 798 00:41:17,280 --> 00:41:19,160 Speaker 1: we were in New Orleans, broke and we had like 799 00:41:19,200 --> 00:41:23,240 Speaker 1: a raggedy pickup truck, we would go to a Beignet shop, 800 00:41:24,080 --> 00:41:28,160 Speaker 1: a Cafe Dumont near us UH in New Orleans and 801 00:41:28,320 --> 00:41:31,719 Speaker 1: you know, play like three dollars. Oh, get us some Oh, 802 00:41:31,760 --> 00:41:37,520 Speaker 1: I'm just thinking about it right now, get us. Did 803 00:41:37,560 --> 00:41:43,480 Speaker 1: you hear it? I heard it. Hold on to you. 804 00:41:43,640 --> 00:41:45,960 Speaker 1: Let me get myself together. Yeah, we get like hot 805 00:41:46,040 --> 00:41:47,959 Speaker 1: chocolate and share it. And we would put the back 806 00:41:48,040 --> 00:41:50,600 Speaker 1: down on that pickup truck and just sit back there. 807 00:41:50,640 --> 00:41:53,080 Speaker 1: We're talking like a five dollars date and we were 808 00:41:53,160 --> 00:41:55,120 Speaker 1: just sitting in the back of the pickup truck and 809 00:41:55,200 --> 00:42:00,399 Speaker 1: eat beignets and share one hot chocolate. And the more 810 00:42:00,480 --> 00:42:04,840 Speaker 1: money we made and the more stuff that we had 811 00:42:05,440 --> 00:42:09,279 Speaker 1: over the years, we did start, like, you know, not 812 00:42:10,360 --> 00:42:13,040 Speaker 1: doing those things regularly, like we would have date night, 813 00:42:13,080 --> 00:42:14,960 Speaker 1: but we would allow it to get pushed to the 814 00:42:15,000 --> 00:42:18,200 Speaker 1: side if something else come up. And it was not 815 00:42:18,239 --> 00:42:21,279 Speaker 1: like anyone was bitter in the moment. It was like, oh, 816 00:42:21,320 --> 00:42:23,200 Speaker 1: you gotta do that, Okay, Well cool, I guess I'll 817 00:42:23,239 --> 00:42:25,400 Speaker 1: just work on this, like we'll find another day. But 818 00:42:25,440 --> 00:42:28,080 Speaker 1: then weeks turn into months and you haven't had your 819 00:42:28,120 --> 00:42:33,600 Speaker 1: consistent date night. And so since twenty fifteen, we've been really, 820 00:42:33,640 --> 00:42:36,520 Speaker 1: really deliberate. We have a date night pretty much every 821 00:42:36,560 --> 00:42:39,640 Speaker 1: Tuesday or Wednesday night. We learned very quickly that Friday 822 00:42:39,680 --> 00:42:41,719 Speaker 1: and Saturdays, young people want to go out and do 823 00:42:41,800 --> 00:42:44,719 Speaker 1: their thing. You cannot depend on them the babysit, so 824 00:42:44,800 --> 00:42:46,840 Speaker 1: you have to pull your fun into the middle of 825 00:42:46,840 --> 00:42:51,640 Speaker 1: the week. So bro so like Tuesdays and Wednesdays. We're 826 00:42:51,680 --> 00:42:55,200 Speaker 1: really deliberate about date night. And you know, my husband 827 00:42:55,239 --> 00:42:57,800 Speaker 1: works in entertainment now and he works on a show 828 00:42:58,760 --> 00:43:03,320 Speaker 1: and the show was actually taping talk. The new schedule 829 00:43:03,360 --> 00:43:05,799 Speaker 1: came out and the show was taping on Tuesday nights, 830 00:43:05,840 --> 00:43:08,520 Speaker 1: which would normally be our date night. And the thing 831 00:43:08,600 --> 00:43:11,000 Speaker 1: that really got me, you guys, this is a in 832 00:43:11,080 --> 00:43:13,920 Speaker 1: August of this year. As soon as he got the 833 00:43:13,960 --> 00:43:17,239 Speaker 1: tape schedule, he literally forwarded it to me and then 834 00:43:17,280 --> 00:43:19,440 Speaker 1: he called me and said, did you look at the email? 835 00:43:19,440 --> 00:43:21,359 Speaker 1: And I said no, and he's like, can you open it? 836 00:43:21,400 --> 00:43:24,000 Speaker 1: So I open it and maybe he had that email 837 00:43:24,000 --> 00:43:26,920 Speaker 1: in his inbox for fifteen minutes and he immediately thought, 838 00:43:27,040 --> 00:43:31,399 Speaker 1: this conflicts with date night, so he renegotiated a new night, 839 00:43:31,760 --> 00:43:35,040 Speaker 1: like right there on the spot, and I was like, dang. 840 00:43:35,640 --> 00:43:38,600 Speaker 1: Four or five years ago, no, wouldn't have happened. He'd 841 00:43:38,600 --> 00:43:44,480 Speaker 1: have been like, hey, so, and we would have just 842 00:43:44,480 --> 00:43:47,239 Speaker 1: like let it go. But so deliberate. We've been using 843 00:43:47,239 --> 00:43:49,759 Speaker 1: that to test out different restaurants and areas that we 844 00:43:49,800 --> 00:43:53,120 Speaker 1: wouldn't normally go to. So we take turns finding things 845 00:43:53,160 --> 00:43:55,319 Speaker 1: on Yelp or hear things that we've heard about and 846 00:43:55,360 --> 00:43:57,560 Speaker 1: we'll just go to a completely different area, have a 847 00:43:57,640 --> 00:44:02,040 Speaker 1: nice dinner. Sometimes we go to work out together. That's 848 00:44:02,040 --> 00:44:03,880 Speaker 1: the other thing. We work out together. Three days a 849 00:44:03,880 --> 00:44:06,160 Speaker 1: week at six o'clock in the morning, we go to 850 00:44:06,200 --> 00:44:10,680 Speaker 1: boxing together. That's relatively new. That's been like since early summer, 851 00:44:10,840 --> 00:44:12,920 Speaker 1: so we've been doing that about five or six months. 852 00:44:13,120 --> 00:44:16,200 Speaker 1: But we're just constantly finding things for us to do together, 853 00:44:16,880 --> 00:44:21,759 Speaker 1: and that has been again so fulfilling because when there 854 00:44:21,920 --> 00:44:24,640 Speaker 1: is something that we have to do, like he is 855 00:44:24,680 --> 00:44:27,480 Speaker 1: actually on a flight right now to New York to 856 00:44:27,560 --> 00:44:31,320 Speaker 1: take something and so we're not having date nights tonight, 857 00:44:31,840 --> 00:44:35,239 Speaker 1: but not this weekend. But the previous weekend he took 858 00:44:35,280 --> 00:44:38,720 Speaker 1: me on a little vacation to Newport Beach. Three days. 859 00:44:39,160 --> 00:44:41,560 Speaker 1: We hung out, We spent a lot of time together. 860 00:44:41,920 --> 00:44:44,839 Speaker 1: We went to the spa and it was just beautiful. 861 00:44:45,200 --> 00:44:47,440 Speaker 1: But he makes sure we both make sure that we 862 00:44:47,560 --> 00:44:52,560 Speaker 1: deposit so that nobody feels depleted, you know, when there 863 00:44:52,560 --> 00:44:54,800 Speaker 1: are those times when work has to make a withdraw, 864 00:44:55,440 --> 00:44:58,000 Speaker 1: and same thing for my daughter, like I've been so 865 00:44:58,120 --> 00:45:00,400 Speaker 1: much more intentional about this time that I been with 866 00:45:00,440 --> 00:45:03,359 Speaker 1: her that when I do have to go speak or 867 00:45:03,640 --> 00:45:05,640 Speaker 1: when I am going to work, if it's something that 868 00:45:05,640 --> 00:45:09,160 Speaker 1: she can't come to, she's like, go get them, girlfriend, 869 00:45:09,400 --> 00:45:12,640 Speaker 1: Like this is truly like my little friend. Or when 870 00:45:13,280 --> 00:45:16,080 Speaker 1: I come back, she's like, you sold all your books? 871 00:45:16,760 --> 00:45:20,160 Speaker 1: You sold all your books? Did you come home with anything? 872 00:45:20,280 --> 00:45:25,840 Speaker 1: She's also slash manager in this relationship, but they're so proud, 873 00:45:26,080 --> 00:45:30,040 Speaker 1: and so by being more deliberate and intentional with them, 874 00:45:30,440 --> 00:45:33,200 Speaker 1: it allows me to stand up and be great when 875 00:45:33,200 --> 00:45:37,040 Speaker 1: I'm out, Like I feel my most confident and bold 876 00:45:37,120 --> 00:45:39,960 Speaker 1: self when I'm on stage, when I'm on TV, when 877 00:45:39,960 --> 00:45:42,040 Speaker 1: I'm doing my stuff, because I know I got people 878 00:45:42,040 --> 00:45:44,440 Speaker 1: that love me no matter what. So even if I 879 00:45:44,480 --> 00:45:46,759 Speaker 1: fall right here, I'm still going home to a house 880 00:45:46,800 --> 00:45:49,520 Speaker 1: full of love. So if you don't like me, that's fine. 881 00:45:49,560 --> 00:45:53,240 Speaker 1: I can accept it. But I know that before I came, 882 00:45:53,320 --> 00:45:56,279 Speaker 1: I was being nurtured and encouraged, and when I leave here, 883 00:45:56,360 --> 00:45:59,719 Speaker 1: I'll be nurtured and encouraged, And for me, that matters 884 00:45:59,800 --> 00:46:04,600 Speaker 1: so much more. I definitely love the feedback from my 885 00:46:04,719 --> 00:46:08,759 Speaker 1: audience or from producers or from whoever, but nothing beats 886 00:46:09,560 --> 00:46:12,839 Speaker 1: what my family thinks about me. I love that. I 887 00:46:12,880 --> 00:46:18,720 Speaker 1: think that that truly to me is redefining wealth, and 888 00:46:18,719 --> 00:46:20,600 Speaker 1: and I think that, right, Mandy, that that's like such 889 00:46:20,640 --> 00:46:24,759 Speaker 1: good feedback. I mean, well, because I want to figure out, 890 00:46:24,800 --> 00:46:26,520 Speaker 1: like what what can we do more of? Because I 891 00:46:26,840 --> 00:46:30,920 Speaker 1: do get the reason why people always ask like, you know, 892 00:46:31,800 --> 00:46:35,040 Speaker 1: how how am I able? Or why have I grown 893 00:46:35,080 --> 00:46:37,120 Speaker 1: so quickly? And it's not that I've grown quickly, but 894 00:46:37,280 --> 00:46:40,800 Speaker 1: I saw the huge boost when I got with my 895 00:46:40,920 --> 00:46:45,320 Speaker 1: husband because because in meanwhile, he's just a regular regular 896 00:46:45,800 --> 00:46:49,319 Speaker 1: you know, nine to five, just the regular guy. And 897 00:46:49,560 --> 00:46:51,319 Speaker 1: I remember he would always ask like, oh, you know, 898 00:46:51,360 --> 00:46:52,960 Speaker 1: you sure you don't want one of those like you 899 00:46:53,000 --> 00:46:57,839 Speaker 1: know whatever, guys. I'm like, I don't know what you mean, 900 00:46:58,160 --> 00:47:01,480 Speaker 1: but you know that. But it's because there's such a 901 00:47:01,520 --> 00:47:06,239 Speaker 1: solid foundation, because I am always someone's foundation, right, I 902 00:47:06,280 --> 00:47:09,680 Speaker 1: am big Mama in my family, like you know, like 903 00:47:09,719 --> 00:47:15,560 Speaker 1: everybody Rwanda. Yeah, so I carry a lot and there 904 00:47:15,760 --> 00:47:19,600 Speaker 1: was I've never been with someone who there is that 905 00:47:19,719 --> 00:47:22,960 Speaker 1: I could actually lean on confidently except for my father 906 00:47:23,360 --> 00:47:26,080 Speaker 1: there so he set a good example of this is 907 00:47:26,080 --> 00:47:30,440 Speaker 1: what it looks like to lean on someone financially spiritually 908 00:47:30,600 --> 00:47:34,000 Speaker 1: because you know, and so every guy that I dated, 909 00:47:34,400 --> 00:47:38,200 Speaker 1: I became my father to them, which is like I 910 00:47:38,400 --> 00:47:41,440 Speaker 1: was the I got you lean on me you know, 911 00:47:41,600 --> 00:47:43,359 Speaker 1: and I didn't realize that that I was turning every 912 00:47:43,400 --> 00:47:47,200 Speaker 1: man into my child. I met my husband and he 913 00:47:47,360 --> 00:47:49,080 Speaker 1: was like, I don't know who you think you're raising, 914 00:47:49,960 --> 00:47:55,520 Speaker 1: fully grown Come on, Superman, you can actually lean on me. 915 00:47:56,040 --> 00:47:57,239 Speaker 1: And I remember I was like, well, you know, I 916 00:47:57,280 --> 00:47:58,480 Speaker 1: make a little bit more and so you know, I 917 00:47:58,480 --> 00:48:00,520 Speaker 1: can handle these bills. He was like, they were paid 918 00:48:00,560 --> 00:48:03,359 Speaker 1: before you got here, so I need you to take 919 00:48:03,400 --> 00:48:05,200 Speaker 1: a seat and I will handle the bill. It was. 920 00:48:05,480 --> 00:48:08,160 Speaker 1: It still blows my mind to this day where I'm like, wow, 921 00:48:08,680 --> 00:48:12,120 Speaker 1: you know, and so I can totally understand, and I'm 922 00:48:12,160 --> 00:48:14,279 Speaker 1: wanting to lean more into because we don't have a 923 00:48:14,320 --> 00:48:16,560 Speaker 1: regular date night. I mean, like we hang out when 924 00:48:16,600 --> 00:48:20,160 Speaker 1: it's like oh, but making that strategic time, I think 925 00:48:20,280 --> 00:48:23,399 Speaker 1: that that is an amazing idea. I actually I feel 926 00:48:23,440 --> 00:48:26,200 Speaker 1: like you ha got forward to it. Yeah, it's something 927 00:48:26,239 --> 00:48:28,400 Speaker 1: for you to look forward to. And I'll tell you what, 928 00:48:28,560 --> 00:48:31,319 Speaker 1: because it's not all peaches and roses and rainbows every day. 929 00:48:31,440 --> 00:48:33,520 Speaker 1: You know, some days you'll be looking at these jokers 930 00:48:33,600 --> 00:48:41,800 Speaker 1: like you know what, Listen like, I'm really really trying 931 00:48:41,800 --> 00:48:45,080 Speaker 1: my patience today. But the funny thing is we get 932 00:48:45,080 --> 00:48:47,920 Speaker 1: it together for date night, like like a couple of 933 00:48:47,960 --> 00:48:51,120 Speaker 1: weeks ago, I was not feeling him on a Wednesday morning. 934 00:48:51,160 --> 00:48:53,560 Speaker 1: I'm not even gonna lie. I don't even remember what happened. 935 00:48:53,560 --> 00:48:55,400 Speaker 1: You know, it could be anything. It doesn't even have 936 00:48:55,480 --> 00:48:58,000 Speaker 1: to be major, but you're like, really, like you're just 937 00:48:58,000 --> 00:49:00,799 Speaker 1: gonna keep smacking like that or whatever. It was something 938 00:49:00,840 --> 00:49:01,200 Speaker 1: where I was. 939 00:49:01,320 --> 00:49:03,239 Speaker 2: Like getting what was that for? 940 00:49:03,960 --> 00:49:06,839 Speaker 1: Yeah, smacking not cool, But it was like I did 941 00:49:06,880 --> 00:49:08,480 Speaker 1: something and he was like, would you look at me 942 00:49:08,560 --> 00:49:11,200 Speaker 1: like that for? And I was like, I can look 943 00:49:11,200 --> 00:49:12,840 Speaker 1: how I want to look. You know, I popped. It 944 00:49:13,000 --> 00:49:15,960 Speaker 1: popped a little attitude. I didn't even know what happened. 945 00:49:16,880 --> 00:49:19,040 Speaker 1: The funny thing is we still to this day don't 946 00:49:19,080 --> 00:49:21,680 Speaker 1: know what really happened or how it started. But it 947 00:49:21,719 --> 00:49:24,399 Speaker 1: was just one of those moments. But let me tell you. 948 00:49:24,680 --> 00:49:27,239 Speaker 1: Before he left that morning to go to work and 949 00:49:27,280 --> 00:49:30,160 Speaker 1: I realized it was date night and I wanted to 950 00:49:30,200 --> 00:49:32,239 Speaker 1: go to that restaurant, I was like, a man, pull 951 00:49:32,280 --> 00:49:35,960 Speaker 1: yourself together, go apologize so you can have a good 952 00:49:36,040 --> 00:49:38,400 Speaker 1: date night. Like it really keeps us in check too, 953 00:49:38,440 --> 00:49:40,359 Speaker 1: because we look forward to it. So I was like, 954 00:49:40,440 --> 00:49:44,879 Speaker 1: if I did something to offend you, I apologized. He's 955 00:49:44,920 --> 00:49:46,960 Speaker 1: like Ooh, you didn't even want to apologize, but thank 956 00:49:47,000 --> 00:49:51,520 Speaker 1: you for trying. Yeah, but we've been together fourteen years. 957 00:49:51,560 --> 00:49:54,640 Speaker 1: So these are fourteen almost fifteen years of Shenanigans, married 958 00:49:55,760 --> 00:49:59,000 Speaker 1: for ten and it hasn't been easy, but it has 959 00:49:59,120 --> 00:50:03,560 Speaker 1: been beautiful because it's an opportunity, like you were talking about, Tiffany, 960 00:50:03,640 --> 00:50:06,400 Speaker 1: like to have someone that you can lean on that 961 00:50:06,560 --> 00:50:09,239 Speaker 1: just lets you be you, you know too, and he 962 00:50:09,400 --> 00:50:13,319 Speaker 1: lets me be all of me. You know. I have 963 00:50:13,480 --> 00:50:18,480 Speaker 1: my Patrise Washington, and then there's Patrice Cunningham and Patrese 964 00:50:18,520 --> 00:50:22,439 Speaker 1: Cunningham is from the hood and she turns up every 965 00:50:22,440 --> 00:50:25,839 Speaker 1: once in a while, and he likes both of them 966 00:50:26,040 --> 00:50:28,520 Speaker 1: like whoever pops out, He's like, I got it, I'm 967 00:50:28,560 --> 00:50:31,160 Speaker 1: with you, like whatever. You know. He lets me be 968 00:50:31,239 --> 00:50:33,120 Speaker 1: all of me. And I dated people in the past 969 00:50:33,160 --> 00:50:36,000 Speaker 1: where it would be like could you not or their 970 00:50:36,000 --> 00:50:38,440 Speaker 1: mom is like your dress is a little tight, and 971 00:50:38,480 --> 00:50:40,440 Speaker 1: y'all know how I feel about my tight dresses. This 972 00:50:40,600 --> 00:50:42,920 Speaker 1: is this is not new, this's been going off a decade. 973 00:50:42,960 --> 00:50:46,759 Speaker 1: So I was like, so your mom's dressing me now, 974 00:50:46,880 --> 00:50:49,600 Speaker 1: you know. But my husband is always let me be 975 00:50:49,719 --> 00:50:53,880 Speaker 1: me and he's always protected me, even from family. Members 976 00:50:54,000 --> 00:50:56,640 Speaker 1: who thought that they could have a say in our 977 00:50:56,680 --> 00:50:59,279 Speaker 1: relationship too, or in our Mayorage urge or how we 978 00:50:59,400 --> 00:51:04,800 Speaker 1: parent or what ever. He he covers that, So yeah, wow, 979 00:51:04,920 --> 00:51:06,520 Speaker 1: I still like him. 980 00:51:07,040 --> 00:51:09,479 Speaker 3: I feel like this has been awesome, right, Mandy, Yeah, 981 00:51:09,520 --> 00:51:11,960 Speaker 3: thanks so much for coming on and definitely, I mean, 982 00:51:11,960 --> 00:51:13,719 Speaker 3: this is a great teaser for your show. I feel 983 00:51:13,719 --> 00:51:17,600 Speaker 3: like Redefining Wealth on iTunes. I'm I'm assuming everywhere you 984 00:51:17,600 --> 00:51:20,200 Speaker 3: can listen to podcasts you can find Redefining Wealth. 985 00:51:20,680 --> 00:51:22,680 Speaker 1: Yep, yep, And if you have a hard time, go 986 00:51:22,719 --> 00:51:26,040 Speaker 1: to Patrice Washington dot dot com. But thank you guys 987 00:51:26,120 --> 00:51:28,640 Speaker 1: so much. I always enjoy chatting with you. I love 988 00:51:28,680 --> 00:51:30,840 Speaker 1: that it's not you know, you know how some places 989 00:51:30,840 --> 00:51:33,040 Speaker 1: you go and it's kind of stale there. You're kind 990 00:51:33,040 --> 00:51:34,640 Speaker 1: of like, just like what you get through it for 991 00:51:34,800 --> 00:51:37,920 Speaker 1: getting out of a getting out of bed, You're like. 992 00:51:38,360 --> 00:51:42,960 Speaker 2: Yeah, how could it be stale when you're here? 993 00:51:43,800 --> 00:51:47,799 Speaker 1: Exactly? Think that someone can google that you can share 994 00:51:47,880 --> 00:51:53,560 Speaker 1: right now? Essentially, yes, exactly, that's a good Well what 995 00:51:53,640 --> 00:51:56,320 Speaker 1: are the things that people can google that they've already googled, 996 00:51:56,360 --> 00:51:59,319 Speaker 1: that they've already heard nineteen times? Yeah, So thank you 997 00:51:59,360 --> 00:52:02,680 Speaker 1: guys for all Also letting me be me and allowing 998 00:52:02,680 --> 00:52:05,120 Speaker 1: me to come back on and share about redefining wealth. 999 00:52:05,960 --> 00:52:08,480 Speaker 1: I don't know what the next few years hold, but 1000 00:52:08,560 --> 00:52:11,000 Speaker 1: I am super excited to be in this space right 1001 00:52:11,040 --> 00:52:13,719 Speaker 1: now and doing everything that I'm doing. It feels like 1002 00:52:14,640 --> 00:52:17,200 Speaker 1: exactly where I'm supposed to be and exactly what I 1003 00:52:17,239 --> 00:52:17,839 Speaker 1: was called to do.