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Speaker 1: This is Straight Fire with Jason McIntyre. What is up, everybody,

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Speaker 1: It's me Jason McIntyre, Straight Fire or Tuesday April. I'm

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Speaker 1: sure you can sense it. A giddiness in the voice.

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Speaker 1: Very excited for this podcast. Um, before we get started,

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Speaker 1: thank you to everybody for listening, and welcome the new

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Speaker 1: listeners who enjoyed Monday's Zion Williams to take a good

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Speaker 1: feedback from Rob g on that one and UM one

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Speaker 1: other quick shout out before we get to today's incredible podcast. Uh,

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Speaker 1: congratulations to Alex Smith of the Washington Football Club, the

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Speaker 1: Kansas City Chiefs, the forty Niners. He is officially retired.

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Speaker 1: Some of my jets, friand fans friends, if that makes

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Speaker 1: any sense, had said, hey, maybe we get him as

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Speaker 1: the backup Seck Wilson. We can't go in with you

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Speaker 1: know this Morgan guy as the backup. But no dice.

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Speaker 1: Alex Smith has decided to retire. That's probably for the best.

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Speaker 1: You know, he went in for Washington last year and

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Speaker 1: everybody was holding their breath. Um, given his injury history

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Speaker 1: and nearly losing his leg. So congratulations on a very

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Speaker 1: good career Alex Smith. All Right, let's get to the

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Speaker 1: biggest sports story of the day, and there is zero

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Speaker 1: debate about this and what's what's so fun? And I

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Speaker 1: know you guys can detect how excited I am. What's

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Speaker 1: so fun about this is Rob G, the esteem producer,

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Speaker 1: one of the best in the business, said on yesterday's pod, Oh,

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Speaker 1: I've got some steps Steph Curry slander cooking up for

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Speaker 1: this week. So then yesterday I look at the NBA schedule,

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Speaker 1: I'm like, all right, we could have this guest. Oh,

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Speaker 1: Curry could break that Kobe record and he's going into

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Speaker 1: the Sixers National TV game. Maybe we do Curry art.

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Speaker 1: Rob G, do you think you could fast track your

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Speaker 1: Steph Curry slander, you know, in case it's a good game. Yeah, yeah, Jay,

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Speaker 1: I'll be be ready because you know, Rob G is

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Speaker 1: a Curry hater and he won't admitted, he won't call

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Speaker 1: itself a Curry hater, but he I don't think he's

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Speaker 1: ready to give Curry the flowers that I am bestowing

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Speaker 1: upon the greatest shooter barn in NBA history. I said

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Speaker 1: he was the second greatest point guard a few years

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Speaker 1: much heat. Oh, Isaiah Thomas, Jay, what are you talking about?

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Speaker 1: Oscar Robertson, John Stockton? Look at the numbers. I mean,

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Speaker 1: I don't I don't need to go through John Stockton's

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Speaker 1: their top five finishes for the m v P. I

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Speaker 1: call Oscar Robertson a combo guard, but come on, stop,

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Speaker 1: He's not even in Curry's class. He's a really, really

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Speaker 1: good player. Hall of Famer, excellent. Curry is elite, top

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Speaker 1: shelf and Monday starting alongside Kevon Looney and Kent base More,

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Speaker 1: who was owing five over five shooting. Coming off the

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Speaker 1: bench was Agent Moulder from the X Files. Oh no, sorry, sorry,

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Speaker 1: his name is um? What's it? Mark Mulder? I gotta click?

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Speaker 1: Michael m y C h A E. L. Michael Mulder,

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Speaker 1: young kid out of Kentucky. Who else did they play?

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Speaker 1: They play? Um? It looks like Kelly Ubrey got up

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Speaker 1: a bunch of shots in twenty two minutes, but it

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Speaker 1: didn't matter because they had Curry and it was the

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Speaker 1: Steph Curry Show once again against the East leading Sixers,

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Speaker 1: who were without Ben Simmons, much to the chagrin of

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Speaker 1: my fantasy team. My son not thrilled. Steph Curry went

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Speaker 1: for He had a bazillion points in the fourth quarter.

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Speaker 1: He was fourteen of twenty eight from the field, ten

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Speaker 1: of seventeen from three, and he basically beat the seventy

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Speaker 1: sixers by himself forty nine points. Now, I was thinking

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Speaker 1: of changing up how we attacked this pod, because you

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Speaker 1: guys have heard me gas up Curry. Don't need me

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Speaker 1: just going crazy and citing his April stats. Nearly three

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Speaker 1: he's taking a million three. He's hitting fifty threes this

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Speaker 1: month from the line. Steph Curry has made seventy eight

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Speaker 1: the most absurd stats I've ever heard. I'm sorry, seventy

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Speaker 1: three pointers during this bench Steph threes in the last

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Speaker 1: ten games. That's more than Chris, Paul Tobias, Harris Russell, Westbrook,

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Speaker 1: that in ten games and the final one. I'm just

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Speaker 1: just waiting. Steph Curry has six games with ten or

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Speaker 1: more threes this season. No other player in NBA history

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Speaker 1: Come on, folks. Six games of ten or more threes

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Speaker 1: this season this season, that's obscene. He's the greatest show

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Speaker 1: in the NBA. Steph Curry is your m v Peeler

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Speaker 1: m v P leader right now. Let me say it again,

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Speaker 1: Steph Curry is your m v P leader right now.

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Speaker 1: He just wanted to. Joel Embiad's house dropped the forty

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Speaker 1: thybel this great defender and Tyrese Maxie. I mean, Curry

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Speaker 1: was unstoppable. Joel embi eight he had and thirteen what

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Speaker 1: care that they're twenty nine and twenty nine. What he's doing,

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Speaker 1: and he's about to become the leading scoring leader in

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Speaker 1: the NBA. What Curry's doing this season? Given the injuries

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Speaker 1: we seem to Lebron and James Harden and you know

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Speaker 1: more than twenty games. Everybody has fallen back due to

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Speaker 1: the injuries. Luca winning the season is a favorite. And

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Speaker 1: you know we've got about I think eighteen games left,

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Speaker 1: I don't know how you don't vote him m v P.

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Speaker 1: And I don't care that they're twenty nine and twenty

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Speaker 1: their record is without Steph Curry this year? I've seen

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Speaker 1: it in multiple places, one in eight, but I also

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Speaker 1: saw one in seven. Bottom line, they stink without Steph Curry.

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Speaker 1: What does m v P mean? Well, the most valuable

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Speaker 1: Jason Yeah, no, Ship Sherlock. How do you define value

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Speaker 1: they the seventies Sixers can swim without Joel embiad Ben Simmons.

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Speaker 1: are they a playoff team? It's close. Without Steph Curry,

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Speaker 1: the Warriors are the worst team in the league. Worst

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Speaker 1: I I love Lebron. You guys know, I'm a fan.

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Speaker 1: He's thirty six. With out him, I thought they would

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Speaker 1: go in the tank. Rob G thought they would go

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Speaker 1: without the Luca, the MAVs are quite bad. But I

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Speaker 1: think we can all agree Without Curry, the Warriors are

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Speaker 1: by far the worst team in the league. So I'm

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Speaker 1: gonna turn it over to Rob G. I'm gonna zip

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Speaker 1: it Lockett put it in my pocket. Despite you know,

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Speaker 1: you know I'm an interrupter or I'm gonna want to

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Speaker 1: interrupt and push back. Rob and I are friends. We text,

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Speaker 1: I have him into his house. He hasn't been in mind.

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Speaker 1: But no matter what is said in the next fifteen minutes,

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Speaker 1: produce the Odd Couple. He's on the rise and Rob

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Speaker 1: g take it away. Well, first off, let me just

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Speaker 1: say this. The plan for the Steph Curry slander was

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Speaker 1: their loss. So but Jason McIntyre, knowing that there was

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Speaker 1: a good chance that they may be a depleted Philadelphia

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Speaker 1: just say this, there are few things more exciting and

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Speaker 1: when he is on and he's cooking, it is mustie television.

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Speaker 1: It reminds me and I've said this before on record

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Speaker 1: like those three minute bursts, and then Steph Curry happened

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Speaker 1: and you'd get the same thing, only different differences. He's

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Speaker 1: shooting it from thirty ft away is that of eighteen,

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Speaker 1: So it just looks cooler to watch him shoot like that.

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Speaker 1: Having said all of that, number one, Steph Curry does

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Speaker 1: not belong in the MVP conversation. That that may have

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Speaker 1: been the worst take you've had in the nine months

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Speaker 1: that was my take. I think I know that's what

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Speaker 1: It's I'm just I'm I'm disappointed that there's so many

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Speaker 1: you know, this Steph Curry month of April just might

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Speaker 1: be the greatest basketball we've ever seen. And that's not

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Speaker 1: just you know, that's so long ago. I'm not even

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Speaker 1: Damian Lillard was putting up very, very comparable stats just

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Speaker 1: we almost have to run the table. During that span,

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Speaker 1: he averaged thirty seven ten and four how many games

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Speaker 1: eight games? Excuse me, forty three eight nine splits. The

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Speaker 1: Blazers won six and two in that spat. Now, I

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Speaker 1: You know, step has forty points, so it's more there.

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Speaker 1: Dame's got more assists. Time out. Can I ask was

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Speaker 1: I believe he's been an All Star, right, No, he's

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Speaker 1: never been in all Gosh. I apologize, continue and so

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Speaker 1: and it's like I said, I'm not taking away from

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Speaker 1: what because what step STEP's doing he is great, but

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Speaker 1: my gosh, we've never seen anything like this before, and

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Speaker 1: point game because he outscored the entire Dallas team through

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Speaker 1: three quarters sixty two to sixty one. And that wasn't

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Speaker 1: like Toronto, who was a also ran team at that

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Speaker 1: point in history, like Dallas was one of the best

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Speaker 1: teams in the Western Conference during that run. So I

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Speaker 1: mean that that that night was incredible. Um. But going

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Speaker 1: back to your Steph Curry m v P, I think,

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Speaker 1: and I know you made a compelling case. I'm not

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Speaker 1: gonna say you didn't. That was actually a very good case. Um. However,

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Speaker 1: there was a month during that one point season that

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Speaker 1: Kobe had where I think he averaged forty three for

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Speaker 1: an entire month of January and they were nine and four,

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Speaker 1: and that was a season where they, you know, made

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Speaker 1: the seventh seed. And if I recall, the starting lineup

435
00:25:41,560 --> 00:25:47,000
Speaker 1: was get this, uh, Kobe Bryant, Smush Smush Parker Luke Walton,

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Speaker 1: lamar Odom and Chris mem So that I will tell

437
00:25:53,720 --> 00:25:55,800
Speaker 1: you right now that that lineup is worse than what

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Speaker 1: the words. Oh boy, I need to look up lamar

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Speaker 1: Odom ever make an All Star team, nod rather have

440
00:26:03,000 --> 00:26:06,480
Speaker 1: lamar Odom or Andrew Williams. That's a no brainer. Lamar Odom,

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Speaker 1: Chris mim Or, Kevon Looney, Oh boy, Draymond Green, Draymond

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Speaker 1: Green obviously the card over somebody Um Smush Parker or

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Speaker 1: Um Kent Baysmore. That's a like three seasons. By the way,

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00:26:28,040 --> 00:26:30,159
Speaker 1: to all the people who didn't listen to the interview,

445
00:26:30,240 --> 00:26:33,960
Speaker 1: Jim Jackson what it was just a month ago went

446
00:26:34,480 --> 00:26:38,080
Speaker 1: and recapped the Smush Parker series against the Sun's with

447
00:26:38,240 --> 00:26:41,760
Speaker 1: Lakers sons, and you've gotta go listen to it. Jim Jackson.

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00:26:41,800 --> 00:26:44,800
Speaker 1: Of course, Um halfway through the series told his real

449
00:26:44,920 --> 00:26:47,600
Speaker 1: estate agent to put his house on the market because

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00:26:47,680 --> 00:26:51,200
Speaker 1: he knew what was coming. That's how That's how south

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00:26:51,280 --> 00:26:52,960
Speaker 1: it went for Smush Parker. That was That was fun

452
00:26:52,960 --> 00:26:56,159
Speaker 1: stuff from Jim Jackson. Um, but I would say I

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Speaker 1: bring that up only to say that Kobe had an

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Speaker 1: incredible scoring season. He was I think at thirty five

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00:27:01,840 --> 00:27:04,320
Speaker 1: points a game. The Lakers were a seven seed in

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00:27:04,359 --> 00:27:08,359
Speaker 1: the loaded Western Conference, and Steve Nash want the m

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00:27:08,400 --> 00:27:11,639
Speaker 1: VP that year. So I know that Steph Curry is

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00:27:11,680 --> 00:27:14,600
Speaker 1: having an incredible running. He could very well end the season,

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Speaker 1: you know, if you count the previous ten games and

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Speaker 1: through the rest of the last fifteen games averaging thirty

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00:27:20,320 --> 00:27:22,560
Speaker 1: five points a game. And I still don't think he's

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Speaker 1: gonna make up enough ground to really get into the

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Speaker 1: MVP conversation. I'm trying to look at the m v

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Speaker 1: P voting in two thousand six. Um, apparently Shock was

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Speaker 1: very upset that he didn't get it the year uh,

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Speaker 1: the year before. Actually, Kobe finished fourth. In two thousand six,

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Speaker 1: Nash wanted over Lebron, Dirk was third, and then in

468
00:27:41,960 --> 00:27:50,320
Speaker 1: two thousand and seven, Dirk wanted, Nash was second, Kobe third. Huh. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: it's weird that Kobe only has one m v P. Huh.

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Speaker 1: It's weird that Shock only has one m v P two.

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Speaker 1: Also strange, Shock is not happy about that Curry has

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Speaker 1: two m vps. By the way, yeah, one of them

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Speaker 1: unanimous history. Let's wrap up. Let's wrap up on why

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Speaker 1: you said something interesting earlier. And I don't want to

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Speaker 1: go after colleagues. Okay, you said something interesting about why

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Speaker 1: the media feels the need to get excited and root

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Speaker 1: for Korea and blah blah blah. Um. I think some

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Speaker 1: of it has to do it this weird disrespect and

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00:28:31,160 --> 00:28:33,160
Speaker 1: we have I think we've touched on this with someone else.

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Speaker 1: There are three things really that people disrespect about Corey.

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Speaker 1: Number One, he is a below the room player. The

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Speaker 1: NBA has always been about skywalking guys like Michael Jordan's,

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Speaker 1: Dominique Wilkins, dunking machines. Um, I mean, you know, Miles

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00:28:48,360 --> 00:28:51,200
Speaker 1: Bridges is heralded as like, oh Miles, did you see

485
00:28:51,200 --> 00:28:55,920
Speaker 1: that dunk? Like you know it's the NBA loves athleticism

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00:28:55,960 --> 00:28:58,840
Speaker 1: and dunks and highlight real stuff. And Currie lives below

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Speaker 1: the room. That's one. Number two, and a lot of

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Speaker 1: people aren't gonna like this. I put it out there before.

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Speaker 1: I think the light skin has something to do with it.

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Speaker 1: I really do. Um Uh, you know, I'll let former

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Speaker 1: players touch on that. I don't want to step in

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Speaker 1: it myself. I've touched on it plenty of times. There

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Speaker 1: is some sort of disrespect about Curry because he has

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Speaker 1: the Suburban game. He is you know, you want to

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Speaker 1: call him soft, don't. He's below the rim. I don't

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Speaker 1: know that he's soft. He gets he gets pushed around

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00:29:28,760 --> 00:29:32,280
Speaker 1: a lot um and he's he's a light skin brother.

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Speaker 1: Like you know, Chris Broussard has come on this podcast

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00:29:34,800 --> 00:29:37,080
Speaker 1: and talked about it at length, like that's a real thing.

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Speaker 1: So those two, and I think the third one is

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Speaker 1: he didn't win a finals MVP and for whatever reason,

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00:29:44,640 --> 00:29:47,880
Speaker 1: like that makes him garbage. And again, I'm not going

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Speaker 1: to call out colleagues because I'm friendly with these guys

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00:29:50,520 --> 00:29:51,920
Speaker 1: and I work with him, and I'm just not in

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Speaker 1: the business of trashing people I work with. Um. Trashing

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Speaker 1: people on other networks I have no problem with. But interestingly,

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00:29:58,760 --> 00:30:01,600
Speaker 1: nobody had the other networks for Bassis Curry. Nobody was

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00:30:01,640 --> 00:30:05,160
Speaker 1: a brain at least and you know this rob like

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Speaker 1: finals MVP, Like we could go look at the finals

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Speaker 1: where they beat the Calves. I think it was four two.

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Speaker 1: It was like Lebron with uh, you know, Matthew Dellavadova

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Speaker 1: and Kevin Love was out and Kyrie got hurt in

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Speaker 1: the first game, and um, you know, Curry was very

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Speaker 1: good in that series. He didn't win the finals MVP

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Speaker 1: because Andrea Goodalla Um had I some success late in

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Speaker 1: the series against Lebron. I thought it was a little overblown. Frankly,

517
00:30:38,280 --> 00:30:42,480
Speaker 1: Igdala was good, but Lebron is still eight and I

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Speaker 1: think because he doesn't have a finals MVP, people hold

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Speaker 1: that against him. I just want to remind people, Uh,

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Speaker 1: steps played in five finals. I'm just I'm not gonna

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Speaker 1: look up how long every series was, but let's just

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Speaker 1: say thirty games in the finals. The guys played like

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Speaker 1: twelve seasons in the league. Let's say he's played ten

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00:31:05,280 --> 00:31:09,200
Speaker 1: seasons eight games about he's played eight hundred games, and

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Speaker 1: I'm just ballparking, you're gonna hold thirty games in the finals.

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Speaker 1: By the way, his final stats, his points per game

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Speaker 1: and the counting numbers are very very good. But because

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Speaker 1: he doesn't have a finals MVP, guys had eight hundred

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Speaker 1: or so games in his career two MVPs, but in

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Speaker 1: those thirty games, he does not have a finals MVP.

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Speaker 1: So people just feel like, oh, well they blew a

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Speaker 1: three one later, Oh, he doesn't have a finals MVPs. Garbage, Like,

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00:31:37,000 --> 00:31:40,360
Speaker 1: it's just it's so weird. Robbed, all right, I just ranted.

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Speaker 1: I don't know, No, I think you're onto something. I

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00:31:44,400 --> 00:31:48,600
Speaker 1: just think, Um, the reason why the detractors to Steph

536
00:31:48,680 --> 00:31:52,320
Speaker 1: Curry it seems so much louder than you hear from

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00:31:52,360 --> 00:31:56,000
Speaker 1: other players, is that the worshiping of Steph Curry I

538
00:31:56,040 --> 00:31:58,680
Speaker 1: think has gone a little bit too far in some cases,

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Speaker 1: Like I know that you kind of walk back the

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00:32:01,720 --> 00:32:04,840
Speaker 1: idea of Steph Curry being better point guard than Magic

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Speaker 1: Johnson because you've you toiter. I don't know if you

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00:32:06,640 --> 00:32:08,560
Speaker 1: actually said it out loud, but I know that you

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00:32:08,600 --> 00:32:11,720
Speaker 1: and I if if they were healthy and they beat

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Speaker 1: the Raptors. Curry has four rings, right, Okay, Magic has five? Correct?

545
00:32:20,400 --> 00:32:25,040
Speaker 1: Curry has two m v ps? What does Magic have three?

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00:32:25,240 --> 00:32:27,920
Speaker 1: And he has three or four? Yes? Right, So when

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00:32:27,920 --> 00:32:31,400
Speaker 1: you start looking at those big ticket items m v

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00:32:31,520 --> 00:32:34,880
Speaker 1: P s, championships like they're close, and then you can

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00:32:34,880 --> 00:32:38,640
Speaker 1: start splitting hairs with like, oh, Magic basically saved the

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00:32:38,720 --> 00:32:40,760
Speaker 1: NBA with Larry Bird in the eighties. That's a fact

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00:32:40,760 --> 00:32:48,080
Speaker 1: that's undeniable. Okay. Curry significantly changed the trajectory of the

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00:32:48,160 --> 00:32:50,440
Speaker 1: league to make it a three point league, to the

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00:32:50,480 --> 00:32:54,480
Speaker 1: point that there are serious talks about the NBA moving

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00:32:54,480 --> 00:32:58,280
Speaker 1: back to three point line or doing something to change

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00:32:59,600 --> 00:33:02,880
Speaker 1: the league from becoming a massive three point league. Like,

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Speaker 1: that's the impact Curry has had. And I mean Rob, Like,

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00:33:06,960 --> 00:33:08,760
Speaker 1: you know, I don't want to go tote toe, but like,

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Speaker 1: if that Raptors series goes the way we all think

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Speaker 1: it does, Katie's healthy, Clay's healthy. I think we agree

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Speaker 1: Warriors win that series, right of course, and history is

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00:33:19,400 --> 00:33:22,960
Speaker 1: a little different, but that's not how it went. I wait,

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Speaker 1: let me just quickly one other stat. So NBA playoff

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00:33:27,400 --> 00:33:31,640
Speaker 1: point per game averages Jordan's first thirty three Iverson who

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Speaker 1: played in five finals games with Kevin Duran his fourth,

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Speaker 1: Lebron is fifth a d is six. He's only played

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Speaker 1: in one finals. Oh, I'm sorry, I'm sorry, this is playoffs.

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Speaker 1: I apologize. Allen Iverage in twenty nine in the playoffs,

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Speaker 1: Katie twenty nine in the playoffs, Lebron twenty eight in

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Speaker 1: the playoffs. Steph Curry playoff NBA history twenty six points

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Speaker 1: per game. So this idea that he's not good in

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00:33:54,920 --> 00:33:59,880
Speaker 1: the playoffs is a joke. Okay, Elijah one is twelveth

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00:34:00,040 --> 00:34:03,280
Speaker 1: Kbe is now Kobe is held back by a couple

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00:34:03,320 --> 00:34:06,120
Speaker 1: of those early series where he was like nineteen years

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00:34:06,160 --> 00:34:09,320
Speaker 1: old throwing up air balls against the Jazz that hurts

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00:34:09,320 --> 00:34:11,600
Speaker 1: his scoring average and brings it down. Dominique is up there,

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Speaker 1: Dirk Russ Dame Korea is tenth all time in playoff

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Speaker 1: points per game. So let's just perish the narrative that

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Speaker 1: he doesn't show up in the playoffs, All right, Rob?

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Speaker 1: Any any other thoughts? No, I mean, I think that

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Speaker 1: a lot of what you said was accurate there at

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Speaker 1: the end, especially um the part about that the media

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00:34:32,320 --> 00:34:34,680
Speaker 1: really liking him, And I think part of it has

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00:34:34,680 --> 00:34:36,640
Speaker 1: to do and you've said it in a roundabout way,

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00:34:36,680 --> 00:34:37,719
Speaker 1: but I think a lot of it has to do

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Speaker 1: with people see him and they think, oh, one of

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00:34:41,880 --> 00:34:46,520
Speaker 1: us can do it too. Watching him shoot threes, handle

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00:34:46,560 --> 00:34:49,200
Speaker 1: the way he does is all skills that you can develop.

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00:34:49,320 --> 00:34:53,920
Speaker 1: It's not like you're God given blessed six to sixty

589
00:34:53,960 --> 00:34:58,440
Speaker 1: like Lebron James with a vertical like you can't. You

590
00:34:58,480 --> 00:35:00,479
Speaker 1: can work out as much as you want, never gonna

591
00:35:00,520 --> 00:35:03,120
Speaker 1: get that big. But you know, Steph Curry looks like

592
00:35:03,160 --> 00:35:05,319
Speaker 1: a guy who worked and worked and worked at his game,

593
00:35:05,360 --> 00:35:07,360
Speaker 1: and he developed his skills and he became something special,

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00:35:07,719 --> 00:35:10,800
Speaker 1: and so I think a lot of people in the media,

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Speaker 1: either consciously or subconsciously, they're more impressed by the things

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00:35:14,560 --> 00:35:17,480
Speaker 1: that he does versus some of the things that Lebron,

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Speaker 1: Kevin Durant, Joe l Embiid can do. I would agree

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Speaker 1: with that. I also need to point out Nicola Yokich.

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Speaker 1: You know, I said he had a good game against

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Speaker 1: the Grizzlies. You know, double overtime and yokif and eight, Um,

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00:35:34,080 --> 00:35:37,759
Speaker 1: pretty nice night. I do wonder subliminally if he saw

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Speaker 1: what Curry did and was like, oh, you know, I

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00:35:39,239 --> 00:35:41,560
Speaker 1: gotta I gotta up my game. I if they're looking

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Speaker 1: at scores at halftime, um, But I mean Yokich had

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00:35:45,320 --> 00:35:48,040
Speaker 1: one of those pretty big games. Again, He's going against

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Speaker 1: Xavier Tillman, right, and Brandon Clark Um. Memphis has beat

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Speaker 1: up that they don't have their their big guy. Um

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00:35:58,640 --> 00:36:02,120
Speaker 1: whose name is Valan Tuna Valentinis did not play. Yes,

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00:36:02,160 --> 00:36:05,640
Speaker 1: thank you, Rob. One other quick note on Curry and

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Speaker 1: this is weird. I'm going to ask you a question, Rob,

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00:36:08,360 --> 00:36:13,840
Speaker 1: don't overthink it, just answer is who is the what?

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Speaker 1: What is the is the media's primary objective to serve

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00:36:18,880 --> 00:36:25,600
Speaker 1: its readers. No, no, okay, what is the primary objective

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Speaker 1: to make money? Fair enough, I would say largely the

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00:36:32,120 --> 00:36:35,360
Speaker 1: newspapers want to make money. But the actual journalists, I

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Speaker 1: would say, they've got to serve their their their audience.

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Speaker 1: What does the audience want? Then you get to the

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Speaker 1: discussion of well, is it what the audience wants or

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Speaker 1: what the audience needs? Because my kids need to eat

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00:36:45,719 --> 00:36:48,200
Speaker 1: vegetables every night, and then they sit down and they

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Speaker 1: pick and they don't want to eat it, and then

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00:36:50,200 --> 00:36:52,120
Speaker 1: they sit around and then they end up throwing to

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Speaker 1: throw them out. Okay, they need the vegetables. The audience,

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00:36:56,719 --> 00:37:01,440
Speaker 1: I think in newspaper world clearly was into Steph Curry.

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00:37:01,600 --> 00:37:04,280
Speaker 1: He was the best selling jersey for like four straight

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00:37:04,360 --> 00:37:07,160
Speaker 1: years in the middle of Lebron's prime, kind of a

627
00:37:07,200 --> 00:37:12,120
Speaker 1: big deal. There was a time from like twenties, fifteen, sixteen,

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Speaker 1: seventeen eighteen, or any NBA game you went to any

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Speaker 1: arena in the country. You go to a game in Memphis,

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Speaker 1: you go to a game in Portland's, you go to

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Speaker 1: a game in Miami, and there were a lot of

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00:37:24,719 --> 00:37:29,160
Speaker 1: people in the Lower Bowl wearing Steph Curry jerseys. Any

633
00:37:29,200 --> 00:37:33,440
Speaker 1: arena and I think that irked the hell out of

634
00:37:33,440 --> 00:37:35,879
Speaker 1: a lot of NBA stars. Chris Paul is one of them,

635
00:37:36,000 --> 00:37:38,239
Speaker 1: Russell Westbrook's one of them. We know they've had beef

636
00:37:38,239 --> 00:37:43,279
Speaker 1: booth Curry. For whatever reason, the fans were attracted to

637
00:37:44,120 --> 00:37:49,320
Speaker 1: Steph Curry's game again under below the rim guy shooting threes,

638
00:37:49,800 --> 00:37:53,879
Speaker 1: the ultimate American underdog story. And I know you could say, well, wait,

639
00:37:53,920 --> 00:37:55,640
Speaker 1: his dad was in the NBA. Fine, his dad was

640
00:37:55,680 --> 00:37:58,399
Speaker 1: in the NBA that did that. That also had him

641
00:37:58,640 --> 00:38:03,440
Speaker 1: zero scholarship offers. Okay, at the high major level, Davidson

642
00:38:03,640 --> 00:38:07,960
Speaker 1: offered him as Scali Virginia Tech famously. Sorry we can

643
00:38:08,120 --> 00:38:10,279
Speaker 1: you can be a walk on like that is the

644
00:38:10,320 --> 00:38:14,680
Speaker 1: American dream. Okay, you go to Davidson, prove everybody wrong.

645
00:38:14,760 --> 00:38:18,600
Speaker 1: Take Davidson too, the Elite eight, and you make yourself

646
00:38:18,640 --> 00:38:20,719
Speaker 1: a household name. Oh yeah, and then what happens at

647
00:38:20,719 --> 00:38:25,760
Speaker 1: the NBA draft? You get overlooked for a bunch of bigger, faster,

648
00:38:25,880 --> 00:38:31,880
Speaker 1: stronger athletes or a bigger name from Syracuse. Uh, the

649
00:38:31,960 --> 00:38:35,040
Speaker 1: kid Johnny Flynn who was a nice player at Syracuse.

650
00:38:35,040 --> 00:38:37,240
Speaker 1: He had an injury and never was anything in the NBA.

651
00:38:38,840 --> 00:38:41,680
Speaker 1: My favorite Curry story, Wow, not my favorite. One of

652
00:38:41,719 --> 00:38:45,920
Speaker 1: my favorite is my two favorite Steph Curry stories obviously

653
00:38:45,920 --> 00:38:49,320
Speaker 1: involved me. I'll tell you this in a second, Um,

654
00:38:49,440 --> 00:38:55,160
Speaker 1: Steph Curry had a workout set up against Tyreek Evans.

655
00:38:55,160 --> 00:38:56,480
Speaker 1: They had both of them in for a workout and

656
00:38:56,480 --> 00:38:58,200
Speaker 1: they had to play one on one. Tyreek Evans went

657
00:38:58,239 --> 00:39:01,680
Speaker 1: to Memphis. He was a scoring machine, unbelievable high school player,

658
00:39:01,960 --> 00:39:03,839
Speaker 1: really good at Memphis. I don't think they did anything

659
00:39:03,880 --> 00:39:06,680
Speaker 1: in the n c A tournament. And they played one

660
00:39:06,680 --> 00:39:10,280
Speaker 1: on one, which is asinine because you know, Tyreek Evans

661
00:39:10,280 --> 00:39:12,399
Speaker 1: has built like a bull and he's like six three

662
00:39:12,760 --> 00:39:16,560
Speaker 1: six four baby, and Curry's like frail coming out of Davidson.

663
00:39:16,600 --> 00:39:20,279
Speaker 1: Come on, guys, skinny, and Tyreek Evans destroyed Curry one

664
00:39:20,280 --> 00:39:23,719
Speaker 1: on one. He will admit this story happened. And of

665
00:39:23,760 --> 00:39:26,720
Speaker 1: course the Grizzlies are level. She's gotta take Tyreek Evans.

666
00:39:26,719 --> 00:39:29,319
Speaker 1: This guy just murdered Curry one on one. Well, you

667
00:39:29,320 --> 00:39:31,640
Speaker 1: know how that worked out. I think Tyreek Evans one

668
00:39:31,680 --> 00:39:34,719
Speaker 1: Rookie of the Year. You know, I'm sure Curry is

669
00:39:34,880 --> 00:39:37,520
Speaker 1: very happy with not winning Wookie the Year in his career.

670
00:39:38,080 --> 00:39:40,560
Speaker 1: My two favorite step Curry stories, just because this has

671
00:39:40,600 --> 00:39:44,560
Speaker 1: been a long pod dedicated to a guy who's taken

672
00:39:44,600 --> 00:39:47,319
Speaker 1: over sports This week, I don't know what I mean.

673
00:39:47,360 --> 00:39:49,759
Speaker 1: The NBA drafted, NFL Draft, sorry, is coming up this

674
00:39:50,160 --> 00:39:52,080
Speaker 1: next week. It's gonna be exciting. But right now it's

675
00:39:52,080 --> 00:39:55,279
Speaker 1: Steph Curry's world. We just live in it. I had

676
00:39:55,320 --> 00:39:57,759
Speaker 1: started a podcast at the website, The Big Lead Way

677
00:39:57,800 --> 00:40:01,560
Speaker 1: way Back. I don't know, two thousand tennis. Maybe he

678
00:40:01,840 --> 00:40:05,560
Speaker 1: has eleven twelve somewhere around there. Well, now I should

679
00:40:05,560 --> 00:40:07,520
Speaker 1: be able to get the date, because it was, you know,

680
00:40:07,600 --> 00:40:11,279
Speaker 1: after Curry had come into the league, and this was

681
00:40:11,400 --> 00:40:14,239
Speaker 1: early on in the podcast space like Spotify I don't

682
00:40:14,280 --> 00:40:18,920
Speaker 1: think existed, and I wanted to have a big name guest.

683
00:40:20,000 --> 00:40:22,399
Speaker 1: So I had known a guy who was a fan

684
00:40:22,480 --> 00:40:25,719
Speaker 1: of the website. His name's Bill Voth, and he's from

685
00:40:25,760 --> 00:40:28,440
Speaker 1: North Carolina, and he happened to work at a local

686
00:40:28,440 --> 00:40:32,840
Speaker 1: TV station where uh near Davidson, where Steph Curry was

687
00:40:33,000 --> 00:40:35,719
Speaker 1: becoming a superstar. And of course Bill had interviewed Curry

688
00:40:35,719 --> 00:40:38,120
Speaker 1: a bunch and got to know like his circle. And

689
00:40:38,160 --> 00:40:41,080
Speaker 1: Bill was like, listen, man, I liked that you're starting

690
00:40:41,080 --> 00:40:43,160
Speaker 1: to pot I like the website. You've done great stuff.

691
00:40:43,760 --> 00:40:46,440
Speaker 1: I can get you Curry, and I was like, wow, sure,

692
00:40:47,280 --> 00:40:50,399
Speaker 1: oh my gosh. Of course Curry got on the phone

693
00:40:50,400 --> 00:40:53,359
Speaker 1: with me for like fifteen minutes to talk about Hey,

694
00:40:53,440 --> 00:40:55,760
Speaker 1: he was closed. It was right before he signed that extension,

695
00:40:55,760 --> 00:40:57,520
Speaker 1: which turned out to be like one of the greatest

696
00:40:57,600 --> 00:41:00,799
Speaker 1: contracts ever for a team. He had to take a

697
00:41:00,840 --> 00:41:04,760
Speaker 1: bit of a haircut because he had the ankle injury,

698
00:41:04,920 --> 00:41:07,320
Speaker 1: and I think they only gave him eight email or

699
00:41:07,360 --> 00:41:09,680
Speaker 1: whatever it was when all the extensions were bigger, way

700
00:41:09,719 --> 00:41:12,719
Speaker 1: bigger money than that. And so that's my favorite stef

701
00:41:12,840 --> 00:41:19,440
Speaker 1: Corey Curry story. The second favorite is UM twenty nineteen

702
00:41:20,040 --> 00:41:25,799
Speaker 1: after the uh Raptors Finals. Um, Curry starts the season

703
00:41:25,840 --> 00:41:29,040
Speaker 1: and gets hurt, breaks his hand, I guess, and Um,

704
00:41:29,080 --> 00:41:30,759
Speaker 1: he came out to my neck of the woods out

705
00:41:30,760 --> 00:41:34,560
Speaker 1: here in southern California for surgery. A buddy of mine

706
00:41:34,640 --> 00:41:36,920
Speaker 1: knows the surgeon who did it, so Curry had to

707
00:41:36,960 --> 00:41:41,160
Speaker 1: then come back for the surgeon to you know, give

708
00:41:41,160 --> 00:41:43,640
Speaker 1: the check up or whatever. So when Curry came back here,

709
00:41:43,960 --> 00:41:45,799
Speaker 1: he ended up going to my gym. And you know,

710
00:41:45,840 --> 00:41:49,080
Speaker 1: my gym just happens to be uh the former Clippers

711
00:41:49,120 --> 00:41:51,359
Speaker 1: facility and a lot of NBA players work out there

712
00:41:51,440 --> 00:41:55,080
Speaker 1: leading up to the draft, Wendell Carter, Jalen Brown, and

713
00:41:55,160 --> 00:41:56,839
Speaker 1: so I know the trainers there and like, you know

714
00:41:56,920 --> 00:41:59,560
Speaker 1: Damian Lillards there in the off season, like Jerry West

715
00:41:59,600 --> 00:42:03,760
Speaker 1: goes uh to check out NBA draft prospects. Like it's

716
00:42:03,840 --> 00:42:07,840
Speaker 1: it's a pretty good gym. And I get a text

717
00:42:08,000 --> 00:42:11,120
Speaker 1: during this is so funny, during my son's what was

718
00:42:11,239 --> 00:42:14,759
Speaker 1: third grade, third grade draft is happening, and I start

719
00:42:14,800 --> 00:42:16,799
Speaker 1: getting text from people at the gym like yo, Steph

720
00:42:16,840 --> 00:42:20,840
Speaker 1: Curry shooting at the gym right now, Like what wow,

721
00:42:20,880 --> 00:42:23,520
Speaker 1: that's wild. And they're like, I'm going to check it out.

722
00:42:24,040 --> 00:42:25,600
Speaker 1: You know, a Lonzo Ball had been there. Nobody's going

723
00:42:25,640 --> 00:42:29,200
Speaker 1: to check at Alonzo ball. So like two days later,

724
00:42:29,520 --> 00:42:31,160
Speaker 1: I'm at the gym. I go to a morning run

725
00:42:31,200 --> 00:42:35,879
Speaker 1: with some friends and I come out, um to get

726
00:42:35,880 --> 00:42:38,200
Speaker 1: a towel. After, you know, I light some team up

727
00:42:38,200 --> 00:42:41,759
Speaker 1: for a bunch of points. You can laugh at that, um,

728
00:42:41,880 --> 00:42:44,320
Speaker 1: And I walked back in. I'm like, all right, I

729
00:42:44,360 --> 00:42:46,720
Speaker 1: got one more game, so we play one more game.

730
00:42:47,080 --> 00:42:48,719
Speaker 1: I walk out early. I could have stuck around, but

731
00:42:48,760 --> 00:42:51,319
Speaker 1: I walk out early. It was as if not to

732
00:42:51,360 --> 00:42:54,080
Speaker 1: get all religious on you, but like a higher power

733
00:42:54,080 --> 00:42:56,840
Speaker 1: of saying, Jake, get up out of there. I leave.

734
00:42:57,400 --> 00:42:59,080
Speaker 1: I have my bag on my shoulder, you know. I'm

735
00:42:59,080 --> 00:43:01,560
Speaker 1: looking at my phone seeing the text I got, and

736
00:43:02,320 --> 00:43:04,799
Speaker 1: I look up and there's this big, skinny guy right

737
00:43:04,840 --> 00:43:07,399
Speaker 1: in front of me and I'm like, oh, ship, that's

738
00:43:07,400 --> 00:43:09,600
Speaker 1: Steph Curry. He's right in front of me, and he's

739
00:43:09,600 --> 00:43:12,359
Speaker 1: got a guy on each side. And I started looking

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00:43:12,400 --> 00:43:14,719
Speaker 1: around and everybody, of course, is staring at him as

741
00:43:14,719 --> 00:43:19,160
Speaker 1: he's walking down, and UM, I'm like, all right, well,

742
00:43:19,160 --> 00:43:22,719
Speaker 1: what's the play here? What's the move? And uh, I

743
00:43:22,840 --> 00:43:27,600
Speaker 1: just say, hey, Steph, you probably don't remember me, and

744
00:43:27,640 --> 00:43:30,640
Speaker 1: he turns around. I'm like, I had you on my podcast.

745
00:43:30,719 --> 00:43:32,840
Speaker 1: I'm at FS one and he's like, oh, yeah, I

746
00:43:32,840 --> 00:43:34,759
Speaker 1: remember you. And I'm sure he was just I know

747
00:43:34,880 --> 00:43:37,840
Speaker 1: he was just saying that to be nice, but we

748
00:43:37,840 --> 00:43:41,680
Speaker 1: should start talking. And I'm like, all right, Steph, give

749
00:43:41,680 --> 00:43:43,560
Speaker 1: me a seth. I'm gonna text my wife to pull

750
00:43:43,560 --> 00:43:45,080
Speaker 1: my kids out of school and bring him over here.

751
00:43:45,080 --> 00:43:49,080
Speaker 1: And he starts cracking up. I did not do that. Um,

752
00:43:49,160 --> 00:43:52,239
Speaker 1: And eventually, you know, he walks over and all these

753
00:43:52,239 --> 00:43:54,879
Speaker 1: people are just staring at him. You know, it's housewives

754
00:43:55,080 --> 00:43:56,640
Speaker 1: and a couple of housewives come up for a photo

755
00:43:56,680 --> 00:43:58,080
Speaker 1: and he's like, Yo, can you give me a minute?

756
00:43:58,120 --> 00:44:00,840
Speaker 1: Let me uh put my stuff down, blah blah blah.

757
00:44:00,960 --> 00:44:03,000
Speaker 1: So I'm like, do I do the picture? Why? Why not?

758
00:44:03,239 --> 00:44:05,719
Speaker 1: You know, I'm like, I'm a media guy. I I've

759
00:44:05,960 --> 00:44:10,239
Speaker 1: never done this in my life where I'm like, hey,

760
00:44:10,280 --> 00:44:14,759
Speaker 1: can I get a picture? Never once, I mean you

761
00:44:14,840 --> 00:44:17,480
Speaker 1: see people out and about, I've never said let me

762
00:44:17,520 --> 00:44:21,480
Speaker 1: get a photo. And Magic Johnson was my favorite player ever.

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00:44:21,560 --> 00:44:23,280
Speaker 1: The first time my dad took me to an NBA

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00:44:23,360 --> 00:44:26,880
Speaker 1: game in New York Madison Square Garden. It was the

765
00:44:26,960 --> 00:44:30,400
Speaker 1: Lakers versus the Knicks. It was like holiday break, so

766
00:44:30,560 --> 00:44:33,279
Speaker 1: we had traveled from Virginia up to New York. My

767
00:44:33,360 --> 00:44:35,360
Speaker 1: dad got tickets and it was amazing. You know. I

768
00:44:35,400 --> 00:44:37,680
Speaker 1: was like, oh, this guy Magic is amazing, incredible, what

769
00:44:37,760 --> 00:44:40,239
Speaker 1: a talent. So Magic is my favorite player. And then

770
00:44:40,280 --> 00:44:43,520
Speaker 1: Curry starts doing his thing at Davidson and he comes

771
00:44:43,560 --> 00:44:46,200
Speaker 1: on the podcast of course uh and I became the

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00:44:46,200 --> 00:44:48,120
Speaker 1: biggest step Curry fan, like he was my guy, and

773
00:44:48,120 --> 00:44:51,240
Speaker 1: he at some point passed. Magic is my favorite player.

774
00:44:51,239 --> 00:44:52,960
Speaker 1: So I'm like, I gotta get a picture. It's like

775
00:44:52,960 --> 00:44:56,319
Speaker 1: Stef can I get a pick as nerdy. But and

776
00:44:56,400 --> 00:45:01,759
Speaker 1: I I had let in with you know, Steph, I

777
00:45:01,920 --> 00:45:03,680
Speaker 1: put this out there on FS one. I'm sure you

778
00:45:03,760 --> 00:45:06,919
Speaker 1: disagree with it, but you know, you guys are gonna

779
00:45:06,920 --> 00:45:09,520
Speaker 1: be pretty bad with you out this season. And if

780
00:45:09,560 --> 00:45:12,360
Speaker 1: Janice and the Bucks stink and Janice is up for

781
00:45:12,400 --> 00:45:15,920
Speaker 1: his contract, you know, you guys offer that pick that

782
00:45:16,000 --> 00:45:19,880
Speaker 1: Timberwolves pick and he goes and we get nice with

783
00:45:20,000 --> 00:45:22,400
Speaker 1: like a smile like he had thought about it, and

784
00:45:22,440 --> 00:45:24,399
Speaker 1: I was like, yeah, he's like, oh, it's not bad.

785
00:45:25,280 --> 00:45:27,919
Speaker 1: It's like he you know, this is what the NBA guys, dude,

786
00:45:27,920 --> 00:45:30,239
Speaker 1: they think steps ahead. And I'm telling you right now,

787
00:45:30,760 --> 00:45:33,400
Speaker 1: like I don't think the way Curry is playing and

788
00:45:33,480 --> 00:45:36,560
Speaker 1: Rob you can disagree. I don't think even though they're

789
00:45:36,560 --> 00:45:41,520
Speaker 1: only five, that they're gonna be done trying to make

790
00:45:41,560 --> 00:45:43,239
Speaker 1: a run at a title with Curry. Would you agree

791
00:45:43,280 --> 00:45:45,839
Speaker 1: with that? I think they'd be foolish not to push

792
00:45:45,880 --> 00:45:47,360
Speaker 1: their chips and try to make a run at a

793
00:45:47,360 --> 00:45:50,160
Speaker 1: title with Steph Curry. I mean, why someone will come

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00:45:50,200 --> 00:45:54,160
Speaker 1: back next year. I don't know what it would take

795
00:45:54,200 --> 00:45:56,080
Speaker 1: to get a guy like bal and would be all

796
00:45:56,120 --> 00:46:00,160
Speaker 1: work with Bill Clay and Curry Draymond and Wiseman. But

797
00:46:00,160 --> 00:46:02,799
Speaker 1: then you probably have to give up wise in right. Yeah, well,

798
00:46:02,800 --> 00:46:05,560
Speaker 1: with that lineup, you wouldn't need a center like that anyways.

799
00:46:05,600 --> 00:46:08,040
Speaker 1: You would need a guy who's just a switching big

800
00:46:08,440 --> 00:46:12,360
Speaker 1: Kevin Looney would be a fine JaVale McGee would be

801
00:46:12,440 --> 00:46:15,600
Speaker 1: a fine center. Stop come on with that. With that,

802
00:46:15,880 --> 00:46:17,800
Speaker 1: with that lineup, all you gotta do is be tall.

803
00:46:18,640 --> 00:46:19,920
Speaker 1: You don't really gotta do a whole heck of a

804
00:46:19,920 --> 00:46:22,080
Speaker 1: lot because the spacing is going to be unreal with

805
00:46:22,120 --> 00:46:25,080
Speaker 1: the lineup like that. I don't know. I had thought

806
00:46:25,360 --> 00:46:29,200
Speaker 1: Beale would be a contender to go after, um. The

807
00:46:29,280 --> 00:46:31,680
Speaker 1: other name that I keep hearing as Karl Anthony Towns.

808
00:46:31,800 --> 00:46:34,839
Speaker 1: Let's see what happens, um. But other than that, there's

809
00:46:34,920 --> 00:46:38,279
Speaker 1: not a lot of stars right now who are eligible.

810
00:46:38,320 --> 00:46:42,480
Speaker 1: Like strangely, you know, it's not like Deer and Fox

811
00:46:42,560 --> 00:46:46,080
Speaker 1: is gonna be going anywhere, right, Um, I don't know,

812
00:46:46,160 --> 00:46:48,399
Speaker 1: I'm I'm missing someone like I don't think you could.

813
00:46:49,120 --> 00:46:51,799
Speaker 1: Can you get Shay Gil just Alexander? Is he that

814
00:46:52,000 --> 00:46:54,120
Speaker 1: much of a difference maker? Though? No? I think the

815
00:46:54,160 --> 00:46:56,920
Speaker 1: only two names that you would consider would be Bradley

816
00:46:56,960 --> 00:47:00,560
Speaker 1: Beale or Towns. There has to be a screneled star

817
00:47:00,640 --> 00:47:03,759
Speaker 1: who's already been in the league for seven, eight, nine years. Yeah,

818
00:47:03,760 --> 00:47:05,680
Speaker 1: and I guess the problem is, you know, Clay's coming

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00:47:05,680 --> 00:47:09,239
Speaker 1: back as a shooting guard, Like, they don't really need

820
00:47:09,280 --> 00:47:11,600
Speaker 1: a shooting guard. Can you move Clay to three? Well? Yeah,

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00:47:11,600 --> 00:47:13,640
Speaker 1: I mean he's coming off these injuries. He's probably lost.

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00:47:13,719 --> 00:47:15,880
Speaker 1: I mean, he's never really been the fastest guy to

823
00:47:15,880 --> 00:47:19,880
Speaker 1: begin with. But you imagine you might get a Clay

824
00:47:19,960 --> 00:47:22,120
Speaker 1: Thompson who's a half step slower and like ten pounds

825
00:47:22,160 --> 00:47:24,640
Speaker 1: heavier just because you would you go, would you make

826
00:47:24,680 --> 00:47:26,840
Speaker 1: a play for And again, I don't know if they

827
00:47:26,880 --> 00:47:29,600
Speaker 1: willing to part with him, but Pascal Siakam is at

828
00:47:29,600 --> 00:47:31,359
Speaker 1: a rough year with the Raptors. Can you get him

829
00:47:31,360 --> 00:47:34,239
Speaker 1: at a bargain basement price without giving up then the

830
00:47:34,400 --> 00:47:37,719
Speaker 1: Timberwolves pick? Could you part with Weissman in some way,

831
00:47:37,719 --> 00:47:40,840
Speaker 1: shape or form to get I think in that scenario

832
00:47:40,920 --> 00:47:42,719
Speaker 1: you would probably have to give up the pick and

833
00:47:42,840 --> 00:47:49,560
Speaker 1: keep wise. Now huh interesting? All right, anyways, we've gone

834
00:47:49,600 --> 00:47:51,960
Speaker 1: way long on Curry and the m v P. Rob

835
00:47:52,040 --> 00:47:54,759
Speaker 1: This was fun. Um, Hopefully you don't end this hating me.

836
00:47:55,000 --> 00:47:57,160
Speaker 1: I do like debate. I feel like I was born

837
00:47:57,239 --> 00:48:00,239
Speaker 1: for it. Yeah, and let me just say this before

838
00:48:00,239 --> 00:48:02,960
Speaker 1: we wrap it up. Um, I just noticed now on

839
00:48:03,000 --> 00:48:04,800
Speaker 1: our zoom, which is how we record all these interviews,

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Speaker 1: that your name is displayed as Steph Curry. Yes, it

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Speaker 1: took you forty seven minutes to realize that. My gosh,

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Speaker 1: I did that from the jump and I noticed you

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Speaker 1: didn't notice. I was like, oh, he'll see you later. Okay, Yes,

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Speaker 1: we do this over zoom and I named myself Steph Curry. Um,

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Speaker 1: I'm gonna go outside and shoot a bunch of threes today.

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Speaker 1: That's what I'm gonna do. All right, Thanks for listening everybody.

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Speaker 1: We will be back tomorrow. I'm out.