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Speaker 1: The Around the NFL Podcast has plenty of cap room

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Speaker 1: to work with. Welcome back to another edition of the

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Speaker 1: Around the NFL Podcast. My name is Dan Kansas, and

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Speaker 1: I'm joined by a room filled with heroes, Mark Sessler,

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Speaker 1: That's that's probably true. They're not spending a lot of

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Speaker 1: We were just discussing our period financial issues. Individual It's

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Speaker 1: a millionaire, Lindsay, So you actually have the money? It's

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Speaker 1: like in your account. It's in your account because I've

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Speaker 1: heard I've heard some stories. Now, sometimes you can know

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Speaker 1: it's a it's Lindsay, our producer. It's a bitcoin largess

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Speaker 1: We're just jealous and probably filled with you barely have

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Speaker 1: to work the rest of your life. Yes, this is

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Speaker 1: the Friday edition of the Around the NFL podcast. We

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Speaker 1: are just days away now from the start of free agency,

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Speaker 1: and you know, if you're a longtime listener to the show,

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Speaker 1: you know that that's when we put on our thinking

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Speaker 1: My Lunch Your Human zero, where we predict. We predict

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Speaker 1: various free agency happenings against one another, putting sandwiches on

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Speaker 1: that on today's show, each of us coming up with

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Speaker 1: of fun, also plenty to talk about in the news

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Speaker 1: as teams continue to maneuver ahead of the start of

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Speaker 1: free agency. The legal tampering window, stupidest phrase in professional sports,

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Speaker 1: begins on Monday, and free agency opens on Wednesday at

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Speaker 1: four pm Eastern. And true to Greg Rosenthal's promise to society,

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Speaker 1: we have an ongoing trade tsunami sweeping across the nation.

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Speaker 1: The tsunami is washing the shore in Los Angeles especially.

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Speaker 1: Give us that terrible We're gonna drown in it. Greg

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Speaker 1: Lenz Was that just Lindsay's well there it is? I like,

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Speaker 1: Let's go the trade Tsunami begins with a trade that

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Speaker 1: went down on Friday. Oh my goodness, Jarvis Landry, you

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Speaker 1: year somewhere and he's letting people know about it, namely Schneider.

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Speaker 1: Maybe I'm a little auntie when we make mistakes on

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Speaker 1: this on this list, if you go back through him,

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Speaker 1: it's almost always just overrating guys at the back end

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Speaker 1: of their career with a big name. I think being

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Speaker 1: a top forty free agent isn't terrible to me. You're

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Speaker 1: like looking at guys that are starting in the NFL.

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Speaker 1: I just don't know if he's gonna be a difference

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Speaker 1: making starter when he's not even gonna be on the

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Speaker 1: field till August. I think you'll find that our mistakes

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Speaker 1: are all over the map, all right, So where you

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Speaker 1: come down on this, Greg, you might end up right.

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Speaker 1: But in terms of the court of public opinion in

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Speaker 1: this room, you took an l there. However, the NFL,

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Speaker 1: the NFL teams will agree with me. That doesn't matter

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Speaker 1: that's not play. But West hasn't been this disagreeable about

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Speaker 1: a ranking Adrian Peterson. I don't think any of doubting

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Speaker 1: that he's not going to get a monster contract, but

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Speaker 1: then he's going to prove people wrong. That's where I

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Speaker 1: come from. I'm still backing Adrian Peters. Will you let

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Speaker 1: me pivot into a compliment of that. I don't like

446
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Speaker 1: You're upset. You're upset again with West. Now I'm not upset.

447
00:23:24,520 --> 00:23:27,040
Speaker 1: I'm trying to just trying to throw a Peterson dag

448
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Speaker 1: was upset. Let's just move on because you deserve Mondo.

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Speaker 1: Credit Greg for breaking some news on the inside. Thank

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Speaker 1: you very much. Here with NFL dot Com is Greg

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Speaker 1: Rosenthal dot com dot com dot com. Not not just

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Speaker 1: this show, but this entire program has become an ego

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Speaker 1: finessing for Greg. And I don't know, I don't want

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Speaker 1: any about Greg, Greg breaking all his news, Greg coming

455
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Speaker 1: up with sound drops to celebrate Greg offseason theories. It

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Speaker 1: is an endless wave of Greg appreciation. Let's get it

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Speaker 1: back to Dan appreciate where it should be. Pivot off that.

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Speaker 1: Tyronne Matthew, known as the Honey Badger, spoke with NFL

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Speaker 1: Media's Greg Rosenthal. Nice little way to dodge the dot

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Speaker 1: com network issue that surrounds Greg's career. Um and in

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Speaker 1: that what are you looking at my papers? That you

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Speaker 1: said it? I was like, is that in print somewhere?

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Speaker 1: Greg is slowly speaking his head over. I don't know

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Speaker 1: who wrote it. That was like, I didn't write that anyway.

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Speaker 1: Honey Badger confirmed to Greg in the NFL Network green

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Speaker 1: room that the Cardinals approached him formally about taking a

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Speaker 1: pay cut. Rap Sheet then added off Greg's conversation Slash

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Speaker 1: report that it is a big pay cut that they

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Speaker 1: want Honey Badger to take. And it's the way it

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Speaker 1: sounded to me the way he was talking. He was,

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Speaker 1: I mean, it's a tough time for Honey Badger. Not

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Speaker 1: my favorite part of um NFL coverage this time of year.

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Speaker 1: The guy goes through the car wash at NFL Network

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Speaker 1: today and all right, Greg had the interview. Nice job.

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Speaker 1: Now he goes on damnash X podcast and he's getting

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Speaker 1: questions and then he has to go on Total Access

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Speaker 1: and Lindsay Rhodes is hitting him up with questions about

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Speaker 1: his future. It sounds like the guy is his pride

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Speaker 1: has been hurt a little bit here, and I don't

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Speaker 1: think he'd be amenable to, uh a big pay cut.

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Speaker 1: So I think he might end up on this top

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Speaker 1: on a one list too, and high up. I think

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Speaker 1: he will. He he said, you know, there's different types

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Speaker 1: of restructures. You know, you could move money around. But

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Speaker 1: what I'm not too comfortable is what he said with

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Speaker 1: you know, taking money out of my pocket, and that

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Speaker 1: sounded to me. And with the ends report that it

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Speaker 1: was significant. I think it was probably around five million

489
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Speaker 1: a year that he maybe no longer fits. It's a

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Speaker 1: totally different system exactly what they do. And you know,

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Speaker 1: I said that, I said, this is kind of a

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Speaker 1: tough day for you to be going on. Because Thursday

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Speaker 1: was the first day he had heard from the Cardinals.

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Speaker 1: He said, the first time he really thought he might

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Speaker 1: be cut was when he heard Steve come talk at

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Speaker 1: the NFL scouting combine. It's just a week ago. This

497
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Speaker 1: is Gregg making news at the combine again. This is

498
00:26:19,840 --> 00:26:22,520
Speaker 1: like Steve Smith all over again. Greg getting people cut.

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Speaker 1: It's not like I'll give me a break. It's your move.

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Speaker 1: You're gonna use it. He he. Uh, he agreed that

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Speaker 1: I I made the suggestion that in the end you

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Speaker 1: might get more money getting cut than you were going

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Speaker 1: to get with the Cardinals. Anyway, St. Davis, you're facilitating

504
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Speaker 1: his exit from Arizona. He was very relaxed. I said

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Speaker 1: it was isn't this a tough day? And he was like, nah,

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Speaker 1: I'm cool, I'm relaxed about And he was very relaxed

507
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Speaker 1: and very just down to talk. But he said, well,

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Speaker 1: that's what my agent thinks too. His agent is Tom Condon,

509
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Speaker 1: who's maybe the most powerful agent in the business, and

510
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Speaker 1: his agent thinks he can get more money than he

511
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Speaker 1: would have gotten from Arizona. So it might not be

512
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Speaker 1: the worst thing in the world. He sounded pretty conflict

513
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Speaker 1: that he'd love to stay there, but he might have

514
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Speaker 1: Like the Giants, for instance, has his old defensive coordinator.

515
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Speaker 1: They could use him. Why not? Alright, So there you go.

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Speaker 1: We'll see how that all goes. Let's move on to

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Speaker 1: Marco Murray and the Titans. It's over. Uh. The Titans

518
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Speaker 1: will release the veteran running back. Uh. This comes after

519
00:27:26,520 --> 00:27:29,600
Speaker 1: a year in which, um, it became clear that Murray

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Speaker 1: maybe wasn't moving the way he used to and Derrick

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Speaker 1: Henry is ready to be the lead back in Tennessee West.

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Speaker 1: You think that Murray will have much of a market

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Speaker 1: uh um effective immediately. No, There's only a handful of

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Speaker 1: veteran running backs getting paid more than five million dollars

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Speaker 1: right now. And I just don't think NFL teams pay

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Speaker 1: running backs anymore, especially thirty year old running backs. Uh.

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Speaker 1: Murray's tape. When people are gonna look at it is

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Speaker 1: not going to be good. If they go look at

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Speaker 1: two thousand sixteen, fine, but for a thirty year old

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Speaker 1: running back, you're gonna look at the most recent season

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Speaker 1: and they're gonna find him not making anyone missing the

532
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Speaker 1: whole because he was battling hamstring issues all year long

533
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Speaker 1: and the knee injury and the playoffs meant Derrick Hendrick

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Speaker 1: got the playing time, which sealed his fate because Henry

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Speaker 1: went for a hundred ninety against the Chiefs. They only

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Speaker 1: have David flew Well and called Fani Muhammad behind Derek

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Speaker 1: ken Love flew Ellen he's but they need are they

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Speaker 1: gonna draft some onely? Think what about your boy Daniel Cobb?

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Speaker 1: David I wouldn't, I wouldn't classify him as my boy,

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Speaker 1: but um, I'm not. I don't even I'm not even

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Speaker 1: sure where he is right now. Training kim arlanding of

542
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Speaker 1: Mark Sessler in the Tennessee backfield about two summers ago,

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Speaker 1: was it's a different it's actually someone different. I will

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Speaker 1: I'll report back on that. It was not him, Okay,

545
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Speaker 1: Moving on, the Bengals declined to pick up the option

546
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Speaker 1: on Adam Jones, who's been in the league forever. I

547
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Speaker 1: don't know if it closes the door on his career

548
00:28:50,680 --> 00:28:53,840
Speaker 1: in Cincinnati, we'll see. But they declined to pick up

549
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Speaker 1: the option. Then this, it's this new nice thing that

550
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Speaker 1: teams are putting out, declined to pick up ops and

551
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Speaker 1: when it's they released him, I mean he had a

552
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Speaker 1: contract and they're releasing him. I don't know what. It's

553
00:29:06,040 --> 00:29:07,760
Speaker 1: just the thing that i've it's been on my radar

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Speaker 1: the last couple of weeks. Why are teams doing that?

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00:29:10,040 --> 00:29:12,040
Speaker 1: It's just like sounds. It's confusing to me. It's a

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00:29:12,120 --> 00:29:16,680
Speaker 1: jargon switch, a little saucy ongoing buzz. This is based

557
00:29:16,760 --> 00:29:19,480
Speaker 1: reports that are percolating in the NFL. So we'll throw

558
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Speaker 1: him out real quick. Here. The Miami Dolphins to cut

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Speaker 1: and Dominican sue. This is the latest report now from

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Speaker 1: UH ESPN's Diana Marie Rassini, who says the Dolphins are

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Speaker 1: quote discussing releasing Sue, the defensive tackle who signed for

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Speaker 1: all the money in the world about two was it three?

563
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Speaker 1: Uh springs ago with the Dolphins. But now Miami is

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Speaker 1: facing some major cap issues, and I believe Sue has

565
00:29:48,160 --> 00:29:50,760
Speaker 1: a cap number of twenty six million this year, which

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Speaker 1: is essentially unheard of. He's defensive player in the league.

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Speaker 1: He has been since the day signed that contract. Uh.

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Speaker 1: And this comes this report The Miami Herald has been

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Speaker 1: on the beating this drum for several weeks. Now Sue gone, Saucy.

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Speaker 1: I mean, what happened to the Lions once they got

571
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Speaker 1: rid of the Dominican Sue? I mean, I don't. I

572
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Speaker 1: just think you know, Greg, you tweeted this that you

573
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Speaker 1: go out and you get Robert Quinn and then what

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Speaker 1: a week later you don't have the Dominican Sue. That's

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Speaker 1: your defense going backwards not forwards. Doesn't make sense to me, Like,

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Speaker 1: why are you adding mid level mediocre maybe players and

577
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Speaker 1: getting rid of a very good place. This is my

578
00:30:26,040 --> 00:30:28,280
Speaker 1: favorite cycle of the NFL season. It's the time of

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Speaker 1: the year when the Dolphins cut their previous mistakes to

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Speaker 1: make room for their new mistakes. By the way, saw

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Speaker 1: Diana Marie Rassini at our Super Bowl hotel and leaving, well,

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Speaker 1: no I have terrible I don't know, No, I don't know,

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Speaker 1: and no interaction, terrible eyesight. But I thought from across

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Speaker 1: the way that she was someone else that we work with,

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Speaker 1: So I was like, how you doing? Good to see it,

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Speaker 1: And then like she was leaving to get a cabin,

587
00:30:49,440 --> 00:30:52,680
Speaker 1: she walked on me like, who is this guy who

588
00:30:52,800 --> 00:30:54,440
Speaker 1: just spoke to me? I thought that was I. I

589
00:30:54,480 --> 00:30:56,960
Speaker 1: sat next to her at one of those Eagles games.

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Speaker 1: I believe very very nice literal action today and other

591
00:31:00,840 --> 00:31:03,960
Speaker 1: Saucy ongoing buzz. Drew Brees is still not under contract.

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Speaker 1: Maybe it's a little surprisingly that they didn't get a

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00:31:05,920 --> 00:31:08,280
Speaker 1: deal done before free agency opens, or they haven't yet

594
00:31:08,560 --> 00:31:12,560
Speaker 1: with it right around the corner now. Report had emerged

595
00:31:12,920 --> 00:31:16,040
Speaker 1: on Thursday night that Breeze wouldn't be able to take

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Speaker 1: part in the legal tampering period, which would obviously not

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00:31:19,400 --> 00:31:21,720
Speaker 1: be cool. That turned out not to be true. Both

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Speaker 1: the NFL and the NFL p a UH told Pro

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Speaker 1: Football Talk, which is a upstart football website, a very

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Speaker 1: active blog that Breeze through his agent, can negotiate, can

601
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Speaker 1: negotiate with other teams when the window opens on Monday.

602
00:31:38,320 --> 00:31:42,560
Speaker 1: Oh is Drew Brees gonna get a little frisky next week,

603
00:31:43,360 --> 00:31:47,000
Speaker 1: rolls his eyes. I motioned for a new role on

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Speaker 1: this podcast. No more Drew Brees talking until Greg is

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Speaker 1: willing to go out on a limb and say that

606
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Speaker 1: he signs with a different team. Well, then it's not

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Speaker 1: even new, I I it's the same conversation we've had

608
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Speaker 1: multiple times. Well, but now we're here three days apart,

609
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Speaker 1: three days before free agency, and we're seeing it. The

610
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Speaker 1: agent and the team are starting to battle through. We're

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Speaker 1: getting the NFL p A involved. People are leaking different things.

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00:32:10,600 --> 00:32:13,200
Speaker 1: Tensions are rising, and I do think and then he

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Speaker 1: signs with the Saints, I do think you might end

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Speaker 1: up talking to other teams here talking, you know, I

615
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Speaker 1: get invited down to the lab and it's like, oh

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Speaker 1: I got invited down here so mommy and daddy could

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Speaker 1: fight all the time in front of it. I don't

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Speaker 1: like it. I I don't blame you. You know what

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Speaker 1: else I don't like? Who's the mommy? Greg treats? Greg

620
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Speaker 1: treats Drew Drew Brees News like Total Access does with

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Speaker 1: Levian Bell or Dez Bryant. I think got thirty five

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Speaker 1: pound male is probably the mommy in this equation. He's

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Speaker 1: the most important player in franchise history and they're figuring

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Speaker 1: it out. I'll go Wes Cook though, you know, okay,

625
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Speaker 1: I guess that now. I'm really good. That was Craig

626
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Speaker 1: you stepped into. Let's just move on, and other things

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Speaker 1: I don't like, Uh, the NFL scout scouting combine, you

628
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Speaker 1: know what, come back to us teams go back to

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Speaker 1: us thirty two NFL teams every year, and it's become

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Speaker 1: a part. It's become a combine trope. It's like, what's

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Speaker 1: the craziest question that you've been asked? In which team

632
00:33:12,240 --> 00:33:15,800
Speaker 1: asked it? And then the the prospects like, oh, they

633
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Speaker 1: asked me if I would you know, kill a dog

634
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Speaker 1: or a cat if I had to, And it's like

635
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Speaker 1: it was like a ha laugh. Put it into your

636
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Speaker 1: little blog, and it's better than the clich question at

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Speaker 1: the combine about the devaluation of running backs. I'll take

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Speaker 1: this line of question more. Uh, well, come back to

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Speaker 1: us combine reporters. Former LSU running back Darius Guice said

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Speaker 1: he was at am I pronouncing that correctly correct said

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Speaker 1: he was asked questions about his sexuality and whether his

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Speaker 1: mother was a prostitute. We're still asking if moms are hooking.

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Speaker 1: I mean, what where are we society? What kind of

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Speaker 1: question is that to ask? During interviews of the Combine

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Speaker 1: last week? And um, I know. And then the explanation

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Speaker 1: from the tames here is, well, the reason he asked

647
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Speaker 1: us you want to get under their skin a little

648
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Speaker 1: bit and see how they react. It's like, well, whatever,

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Speaker 1: you're asking a twenty year old boy if his mom

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Speaker 1: is a huger, that's not cool. You're asking a guy

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Speaker 1: if he's gay, which is none of your business. And

652
00:34:18,000 --> 00:34:22,200
Speaker 1: and and it's it's completely backwards. And then it's arguably illegal,

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Speaker 1: arguably Illegalably it's against the NFL buy lines that we

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Speaker 1: we signed the contract every year, and uh it did.

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Speaker 1: And then I read Bobby clemco Um wrote a piece

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Speaker 1: for essay dot com about Baker Mayfield and uh, your boys,

657
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Speaker 1: the Browns mark not to that level. But as soon

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Speaker 1: as he walks in the room, John Dorsey, who's talking

659
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Speaker 1: about guys that are full of themselves, says, wow, so

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Speaker 1: you like food trucks, And then, according according to Bobby Clemco,

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Speaker 1: with Dorsey's jab, everyone had a nice laugh at Mayfield's expense.

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Speaker 1: Mayfield included Mayfield gotten to a skull full outside of

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Speaker 1: food truck and when he was in college, everybody stopped

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Speaker 1: giving you know, coming after these and it's just like

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Speaker 1: silly to me. You know, it tells me because it's

666
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Speaker 1: it's sort of the same stuff you heard going way

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Speaker 1: back that there's still a lot of age old old

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Speaker 1: boys network lugheads running. Some of these meetings were between

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Speaker 1: and I'm not saying that's Dorsey, but Dorsey is an

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Speaker 1: old school duel. I'm not, and I know the leadership

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00:35:25,239 --> 00:35:27,400
Speaker 1: has changed, but the Browns of all teams are getting

672
00:35:27,440 --> 00:35:29,560
Speaker 1: cute asking that question. You're the guy who took You're

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Speaker 1: the team that took Manzel, and now you're trying to

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Speaker 1: figure out is he the next man Zel? So you're

675
00:35:33,280 --> 00:35:36,759
Speaker 1: giving this guy crap. We're we're still dragging a lot

676
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Speaker 1: of these old schools, longtime career NFL guys into the

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00:35:43,760 --> 00:35:47,640
Speaker 1: century right eighteen years later. I think it's probably pretty

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Speaker 1: typical of American and maybe worldwide. But I can only

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Speaker 1: speak to American business at large. I mean, there's a

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Speaker 1: lot of ingrained people that are in positions of power

681
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Speaker 1: that haven't really caught up to what the social world

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00:36:01,800 --> 00:36:04,080
Speaker 1: is right now. They're they're gonna get washed. It's it's

683
00:36:04,120 --> 00:36:07,080
Speaker 1: they're responsibility getting washed out, and they're going to continue

684
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Speaker 1: to But there's a lot of them are still in

685
00:36:08,840 --> 00:36:10,800
Speaker 1: power and having and there are more in the NFL

686
00:36:10,840 --> 00:36:12,640
Speaker 1: than there are another sport. That's the thing is you

687
00:36:12,680 --> 00:36:14,640
Speaker 1: can fail in the NFL and the front officer at

688
00:36:14,640 --> 00:36:18,320
Speaker 1: the coaching level and keep getting rehired over and over

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Speaker 1: and over. That's Evan Silva's cocoon theory that there is

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Speaker 1: this idea. It's almost like it's become these questions that

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Speaker 1: these guys, it's become like performative because these teams know

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Speaker 1: that then it will get reported and then the teams

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Speaker 1: will look interesting or funny or different. It's just like enough,

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Speaker 1: well not not in this case. Here the disaster for

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Speaker 1: whoever gets whoever they find out, you should call them out.

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00:36:41,920 --> 00:36:46,040
Speaker 1: You should just be like change, move, evolve. That's what's

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Speaker 1: happening in the news. A quick listeners note. We recorded

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Speaker 1: this segment before Jarvis Lantry was traded to the Browns. Enjoy. Okay,

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Speaker 1: here we go, go get my lunch. Yeah he's of gabage,

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Speaker 1: all right, go get my lunch. Dot org is where

701
00:37:10,400 --> 00:37:13,120
Speaker 1: you could see the updated standings and all the history

702
00:37:13,160 --> 00:37:16,319
Speaker 1: of this great game, where each of us make predictions

703
00:37:16,480 --> 00:37:19,759
Speaker 1: about various league ten pole events, this time free eight

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00:37:19,800 --> 00:37:23,680
Speaker 1: well yeah, ten pole events kind of who cares free agency?

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Speaker 1: In this case, we will go through it around the

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Speaker 1: room three times with predictions, and then we all will

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Speaker 1: get an opportunity either agree with that prediction or say no, no, no,

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Speaker 1: no no, you go get my lunch. Monster. Uh, you're wrong.

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Speaker 1: I'm going against you on it. And a little check

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Speaker 1: of the all time standings. Um, maybe Greg, you and

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00:37:44,719 --> 00:37:48,439
Speaker 1: I are in a great all time war. Um all time.

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Speaker 1: I mean, I haven't seen any sandwiches since our Super

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Speaker 1: Bowl sandwich props, So I am I will continue with

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Speaker 1: this project protest. But I'm I'm most um. I am

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Speaker 1: at first at fifty. I don't think I even did

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Speaker 1: well in the Super Bowl. So I am in first

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Speaker 1: place at fifty four point one percent. Greg, you are

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Speaker 1: right behind it fifty three point nine percent. A. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: you guys are so far ahead of me West at

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Speaker 1: fifty point seven percent. How can I make up that disc? Well,

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Speaker 1: it's funny when when we've actually had two hundred games,

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00:38:19,640 --> 00:38:24,520
Speaker 1: but you're like eight games behind and Mark you're at

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Speaker 1: four point to percent all time. And you had asked

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Speaker 1: Mark if I had really struggled last season, No, I

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Speaker 1: did not. In fact, last year was Chris Wesling's waterloo

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Speaker 1: A three and nine mark uh and over four in prediction.

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Speaker 1: So West needs a cancer. I was he had something

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Speaker 1: growing inside him. Get off his back, calling one. You

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Speaker 1: didn't know it was still affecting my body and my mind?

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Speaker 1: All right, Well, who were we to say? By the way,

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Speaker 1: Colleen s Colleen is actually in first place. She's nineteen

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Speaker 1: and well we've two something. It's like in baseball where

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Speaker 1: you need to appear in like two thirds of your team.

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Speaker 1: She's like a September call. Yeah, she needs more at

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Speaker 1: bats to qualify for this, but she's done very well

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Speaker 1: and limited. You know who it should be embarrassed? Is

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Speaker 1: our is our editor Ali bon Pury A zero point

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Speaker 1: zero percent to night total nightmare. Alright, we're going around

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Speaker 1: the room three times. But what we always do, we

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Speaker 1: have one universal prop you guys ready for the universal

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Speaker 1: prop Are you ready plug in Kissing Cousins? Because it's

742
00:39:32,239 --> 00:39:38,160
Speaker 1: about Kirk Cousins. Where does Kirk Cousins land? What team

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Speaker 1: does he sign with? It is the flashpoint, it is

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00:39:40,520 --> 00:39:45,040
Speaker 1: the everything revolves around this decision, especially in the quarterback market.

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Speaker 1: Uh So, let's go around the room. Everyone just make

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Speaker 1: their make their pick. Nick for tier at go get

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00:39:51,200 --> 00:39:54,759
Speaker 1: my lunch dot Org will be cataloging Mark Sessler. We

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Speaker 1: are going with Kirk Cousins out of the gate here.

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Speaker 1: I mean, I just set it up. I am going

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Speaker 1: to I'm already Vike straight. I'm going Vikings Vikings. That

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Speaker 1: do you want to give like a quick reasoning lection.

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Speaker 1: I mean, unless you've been in a cave for four weeks,

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Speaker 1: you know why. I mean, it's like their linked together.

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00:40:09,719 --> 00:40:12,600
Speaker 1: There's a lot of cash in Minnesota. They're not really

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Speaker 1: super committed to any of the corner between Mark and

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Speaker 1: Dan here. I mean no, not at all. But it's

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Speaker 1: it's self explanatory if you've been following the tea leaves

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Speaker 1: of free agent. But it doesn't mean it's definitely happening,

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Speaker 1: not at all. But to me, it's it's my favorite

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Speaker 1: of the group. Yes, that is the smart money. That's

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Speaker 1: a smart pick. Yes, that is the smart money. Um,

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Speaker 1: smart sandwich. I'm gonna I'm gonna get risky in in

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Speaker 1: this year's edition because I have to make up some ground. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: I know it's a risky move, but um, for me,

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Speaker 1: I'm not gonna doubt Johnny what John Elways ability to

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Speaker 1: get his man. I'm going with the Broncos. I realized

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Speaker 1: that's a dark horse pick. Yeah. I feel like we

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Speaker 1: always always get this group one wrong, and the dark

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Speaker 1: horses win a lot of the time. You know what

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00:40:59,160 --> 00:41:03,480
Speaker 1: I mean. Um, you it's funny because the Broncos. Everyone

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Speaker 1: immediately when this started with Cousin said, oh Denver fun

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Speaker 1: uh John Elway, he he recruited Peyton Manning. They haven't

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Speaker 1: need a quarterback. It all makes sense. And you got

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Speaker 1: von Miller like I like Lucky Charms too, and you

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00:41:17,800 --> 00:41:20,000
Speaker 1: have all that stuff. But now it's kind of gone

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Speaker 1: away from Denver. So that's a good one West, that's

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Speaker 1: a nice dark one. So it all makes sense. Still,

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Speaker 1: it's not like it doesn't make sense. There's only four

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Speaker 1: teams that are even in the mix. It seems like

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Speaker 1: and I would put the Broncos. Maybe as they're they're

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Speaker 1: in there because of the elway. Um and okay, now

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Speaker 1: I'll go. I will say yes, I had I tweeted

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00:41:39,280 --> 00:41:43,879
Speaker 1: about it. I had a dream. I had a real dream. Uh.

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Speaker 1: Two nights ago, a premonition. I saw Kirk Cousins in

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Speaker 1: a hallway and I just learned that he had signed

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Speaker 1: to my New York Jets. I ran to Kirk and

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Speaker 1: I hugged. None of this is a joke, this is

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Speaker 1: not a bit. I hugged Kirk Cousins, Kirk Cousins, and

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Speaker 1: I said, congratulations man, best of luck to you man,

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Speaker 1: and he said thanks a lot. And he seemed like

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Speaker 1: a really nice guy. And then I went back and

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00:42:15,640 --> 00:42:18,440
Speaker 1: read about it and watched coverage of it, and there

793
00:42:18,440 --> 00:42:22,200
Speaker 1: were people saying, oh, bad move by Cousins. He should

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Speaker 1: have went to the Vikings win now when now? When now?

795
00:42:25,440 --> 00:42:29,880
Speaker 1: But no, in this premonition, he joins Gang Green. So

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00:42:29,960 --> 00:42:34,360
Speaker 1: that is my choice. It's getting some more buzz lately

797
00:42:34,440 --> 00:42:38,160
Speaker 1: that that that they could actually do this. He is

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00:42:38,200 --> 00:42:40,360
Speaker 1: a great guy. It's some of his teammates have been

799
00:42:40,400 --> 00:42:43,239
Speaker 1: throwing some shots lately. He likes my dream. You can't

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Speaker 1: have money. They have a lot of money. He loves money.

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00:42:45,960 --> 00:42:48,840
Speaker 1: Who doesn't love money? I mean, i'd say some people.

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00:42:48,840 --> 00:42:50,480
Speaker 1: It might not be the thing that drives him. I'm

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00:42:50,520 --> 00:42:52,600
Speaker 1: not sure it drives Kirk Cousins, but we won't know.

804
00:42:52,680 --> 00:42:55,439
Speaker 1: Because he's exceedingly rich and has been filthy rich for years.

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00:42:55,440 --> 00:42:58,160
Speaker 1: He'll be fine, all right, Greg? How about hearing? So

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00:42:58,160 --> 00:43:01,200
Speaker 1: so far? This is unprecedented, by the way, Usually like

807
00:43:01,320 --> 00:43:04,480
Speaker 1: last year we have the same question was about Adrian Peterson.

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00:43:04,960 --> 00:43:08,280
Speaker 1: Three or four of us said Raiders, I believe um,

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00:43:08,280 --> 00:43:09,920
Speaker 1: and he ended up, of course, signing with the Saints

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00:43:10,000 --> 00:43:13,360
Speaker 1: to disastrous results. So far in this all three of

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Speaker 1: us have chosen different landings abouts. The only other landings

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00:43:15,600 --> 00:43:18,000
Speaker 1: about is Arizona. So, Greg, are you gonna just know?

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00:43:18,280 --> 00:43:21,439
Speaker 1: Although I have noticed how rap she keeps banging this

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00:43:21,760 --> 00:43:24,800
Speaker 1: Arizona drum, But I'm gonna go with the safe answer

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Speaker 1: and just go with Minnesota. I mean, I don't know

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00:43:26,680 --> 00:43:29,480
Speaker 1: if that's safe or not. I think Denver and Minnesota

817
00:43:29,800 --> 00:43:31,920
Speaker 1: are the two I can I can imagine in my

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00:43:32,040 --> 00:43:34,800
Speaker 1: mind's eye, But I like that fit with the vikings.

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Speaker 1: All right, there you go. Now, let's start uh with

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Speaker 1: each of our individual props. Mark get us going all right,

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Speaker 1: to Marco Murray, we just talked about him. I say

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00:43:45,360 --> 00:43:47,759
Speaker 1: that to Marco Murray will land with a team in

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00:43:47,800 --> 00:43:54,000
Speaker 1: the NFC East, not going back to Dallas. I think

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00:43:54,000 --> 00:43:59,160
Speaker 1: he could potentially see Dallas. That's definitely not going to Philly.

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00:43:59,200 --> 00:44:01,400
Speaker 1: But you're right, the other three teams need running backs.

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Speaker 1: Kind of like that. I already immediately regret putting DeMarco

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Speaker 1: Murray into our top one. Oh one. I think he's

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Speaker 1: like ninety two. And now I look at it, I'm like, oh,

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Speaker 1: why why do we do that? We agreed on that one.

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Speaker 1: You think he will get signed though, h question. And

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Speaker 1: I think he'll get signed. I think it might take

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Speaker 1: some time for the god side. I like this one. Mark,

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Speaker 1: You've got me. Really, I have a general rule I

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Speaker 1: always take Mark up, So I will take you up

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Speaker 1: on this well, because typically they're absurd. This one's good.

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Speaker 1: Though one's good. This feels it's like he might catch

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Speaker 1: some sandwiches. So he's not going back to Philly, the

838
00:44:30,360 --> 00:44:33,040
Speaker 1: old sandwich. Catch your bet. He's not not to Philly,

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Speaker 1: but Dallas. Where's Al Morris? He's he's not currently is

840
00:44:37,120 --> 00:44:39,480
Speaker 1: a free agent himself, and they don't have a Darren

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00:44:39,520 --> 00:44:44,200
Speaker 1: McFadden in the building. Giants certainly could use the Redskins.

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00:44:44,320 --> 00:44:47,399
Speaker 1: I could. They definitely need a running back. Yeah, I'll

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Speaker 1: take you up on this. I just the odds are

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Speaker 1: you got twenty eight to four, So I'll take you

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Speaker 1: up on it. I will take you up as a

846
00:44:54,880 --> 00:44:58,479
Speaker 1: matter of principle as might come back. Yeah, I think

847
00:44:58,520 --> 00:45:02,160
Speaker 1: I think he might be onto west y'r up. This

848
00:45:02,239 --> 00:45:06,240
Speaker 1: is especially for Greg. Richard Sherman gets more guaranteed money

849
00:45:06,440 --> 00:45:09,880
Speaker 1: than Teddy Bridgewater. Oh no, I need to uh hoof,

850
00:45:10,560 --> 00:45:14,759
Speaker 1: you caught him flat footed. I needed extra ones, and

851
00:45:14,760 --> 00:45:17,279
Speaker 1: I have one that's almost too similar. Maybe I'll just

852
00:45:17,280 --> 00:45:18,640
Speaker 1: throw it out right now and we'll just have the

853
00:45:18,760 --> 00:45:22,520
Speaker 1: Richard Sherman I know that's that's too confusing gets more

854
00:45:22,719 --> 00:45:28,120
Speaker 1: guaranteed money than Teddy Bridgewater. I think they both could

855
00:45:28,120 --> 00:45:31,960
Speaker 1: be on one year deals, although Sherman probably has a

856
00:45:32,000 --> 00:45:36,080
Speaker 1: little better chance of maybe getting to Sherman gets more

857
00:45:36,120 --> 00:45:41,080
Speaker 1: than Teddy. I think Teddy could end up. I'll go,

858
00:45:41,160 --> 00:45:43,719
Speaker 1: I'll take you up on it. The the chance I

859
00:45:43,760 --> 00:45:46,360
Speaker 1: think is I don't think it'd be crazy for Sherman

860
00:45:46,440 --> 00:45:48,520
Speaker 1: to get like a two year a two year deal.

861
00:45:48,560 --> 00:45:51,080
Speaker 1: But yeah, Ultimately, I do think Teddy will do better.

862
00:45:51,120 --> 00:45:53,399
Speaker 1: I'll take you up because I think some team out

863
00:45:53,440 --> 00:45:57,760
Speaker 1: there is going to view Teddy Bridgewater as a legit

864
00:45:58,120 --> 00:46:01,560
Speaker 1: potential starter, and he will sneak past Sherman and the

865
00:46:01,560 --> 00:46:04,800
Speaker 1: guaranteed money column. I think it's a coin flip with Bridgewater.

866
00:46:04,840 --> 00:46:07,000
Speaker 1: He could either get a deal that surprised you a

867
00:46:07,000 --> 00:46:10,000
Speaker 1: little bit, or he could get one year, three million

868
00:46:10,040 --> 00:46:16,200
Speaker 1: dollars yep um. I think Sherman's gonna end up getting more,

869
00:46:16,800 --> 00:46:18,440
Speaker 1: so I will not take you up on it, right,

870
00:46:18,960 --> 00:46:21,120
Speaker 1: you said Sherman Will, I said Sherman Will. Yeah, I

871
00:46:21,160 --> 00:46:22,319
Speaker 1: will not take you up, but I agree with you.

872
00:46:22,360 --> 00:46:24,080
Speaker 1: I think he will get I think he'll get paid,

873
00:46:24,480 --> 00:46:26,720
Speaker 1: even though he is his own agent, which gives me pause.

874
00:46:27,320 --> 00:46:30,359
Speaker 1: I don't like that slow coon got paid. Yeah, that's true,

875
00:46:30,400 --> 00:46:32,520
Speaker 1: and I don't want any example. Yeah, I don't wanna

876
00:46:33,280 --> 00:46:35,879
Speaker 1: speak ill of Sherman's abilities at a bargaining table. He's

877
00:46:35,880 --> 00:46:37,960
Speaker 1: a very smart guy, went to Stanford, but he's also

878
00:46:38,040 --> 00:46:41,600
Speaker 1: a novice in this. I will take cold. I throw

879
00:46:41,600 --> 00:46:44,920
Speaker 1: out my Richard Sherman when I'm not gonna pivot unless

880
00:46:44,920 --> 00:46:46,680
Speaker 1: I did at Drew Brees, unless I threw that in

881
00:46:46,719 --> 00:46:48,840
Speaker 1: their mind, I'm gonna go Richard Sherman will not be

882
00:46:49,880 --> 00:46:55,360
Speaker 1: among the top five cornerbacks in the market and guaranteed money.

883
00:46:56,480 --> 00:46:58,200
Speaker 1: All right, who do you got? You got Malcolm Butler?

884
00:46:58,880 --> 00:47:01,600
Speaker 1: You got John Malcolm Butler. By the way, people are

885
00:47:02,120 --> 00:47:04,360
Speaker 1: throwing a lot of cold water on his market that

886
00:47:04,400 --> 00:47:06,520
Speaker 1: he might have to accept like a one. Yeah, because

887
00:47:06,560 --> 00:47:09,399
Speaker 1: your team poisoned his market. I hope you feel good

888
00:47:09,400 --> 00:47:12,759
Speaker 1: about that. Thrown asleep. I hope he returned to the Patriots.

889
00:47:12,760 --> 00:47:16,920
Speaker 1: Seems unbankly, but you never know. Malcolm Butler, Trumaine Johnson.

890
00:47:17,520 --> 00:47:21,120
Speaker 1: What are the cornerbacks in the file? Fuller, Kyle Fuller.

891
00:47:22,480 --> 00:47:24,279
Speaker 1: He won't be in the top five, won't even be

892
00:47:24,320 --> 00:47:28,040
Speaker 1: in the top five. West said he's the number one

893
00:47:28,080 --> 00:47:31,880
Speaker 1: cornerback in his market guaranteed money. But I'm not ranking

894
00:47:31,920 --> 00:47:34,399
Speaker 1: on what NFL teams are going to pay. I'm ranking

895
00:47:34,480 --> 00:47:37,440
Speaker 1: on how well he's gonna play. I think he's going

896
00:47:37,520 --> 00:47:39,640
Speaker 1: to sign an incentive late in contract with not a

897
00:47:39,680 --> 00:47:42,920
Speaker 1: lot of guaranteed money. So I will not take you up,

898
00:47:43,280 --> 00:47:46,000
Speaker 1: not even top five. Maybe should have made it longer,

899
00:47:47,960 --> 00:47:49,920
Speaker 1: you're saying not, he will not be too, won't even

900
00:47:50,080 --> 00:47:52,160
Speaker 1: I will take you up. You would have to be

901
00:47:52,239 --> 00:47:54,440
Speaker 1: the only way I win these things is to continually

902
00:47:54,480 --> 00:47:57,800
Speaker 1: take everyone up on everything that's typically smart. Yes, generally

903
00:47:57,880 --> 00:47:59,800
Speaker 1: the way to go, Dan and I the best winning

904
00:47:59,800 --> 00:48:02,040
Speaker 1: for Endge. We also have the most games played, which

905
00:48:02,040 --> 00:48:05,160
Speaker 1: I think because we've we've taken that approach. Warriors warriors

906
00:48:05,920 --> 00:48:12,600
Speaker 1: gig gains. Mm hmmm, I'd be I'd be relying on

907
00:48:12,640 --> 00:48:15,000
Speaker 1: someone kind of random, you know, sneaking in. I'm I'm

908
00:48:15,000 --> 00:48:16,960
Speaker 1: gonna take you. I'm gonna take you. I'm gonna take it.

909
00:48:17,000 --> 00:48:18,719
Speaker 1: I changed my mind, I'm gonna take you about it.

910
00:48:18,840 --> 00:48:21,480
Speaker 1: There's just not enough guys there. You also could be

911
00:48:21,520 --> 00:48:24,480
Speaker 1: hoping like a big name cut or something to happen, right,

912
00:48:24,560 --> 00:48:27,120
Speaker 1: That's that's the wild card. There's not a guy clay

913
00:48:27,200 --> 00:48:30,440
Speaker 1: Born who knows im Consue moves to cornerback counting on

914
00:48:30,560 --> 00:48:33,560
Speaker 1: the market just you know. I mean, he's gonna finish

915
00:48:33,560 --> 00:48:37,400
Speaker 1: behind Butler, Johnson and Fuller most likely. This is guaranteed money,

916
00:48:37,520 --> 00:48:40,759
Speaker 1: guaranteed yes, to be clear, yes, But can he make

917
00:48:40,760 --> 00:48:43,960
Speaker 1: more guaranteed money than Brent Grinds or shot Brian. Yeah,

918
00:48:43,960 --> 00:48:45,399
Speaker 1: I think he can. So I don't think he can.

919
00:48:46,280 --> 00:48:48,720
Speaker 1: But that's me. I think Brian is gonna make money.

920
00:48:48,920 --> 00:48:53,680
Speaker 1: Here's mine, Here we go. I've had this theory in

921
00:48:54,120 --> 00:48:57,439
Speaker 1: mind since the day I heard Larry Fitzgerald was coming

922
00:48:57,440 --> 00:48:59,960
Speaker 1: back to Arizona. I've mentioned on the podcast. I think,

923
00:49:00,000 --> 00:49:04,520
Speaker 1: inc uh, he is such a beloved figure in that region,

924
00:49:05,000 --> 00:49:07,960
Speaker 1: on that team, he's royalty that they will not hang

925
00:49:08,320 --> 00:49:12,480
Speaker 1: Larry Fitzgerald out to dry with a rookie quarterback or

926
00:49:12,600 --> 00:49:16,520
Speaker 1: some bum uh. I don't want to say bum, but

927
00:49:16,560 --> 00:49:19,400
Speaker 1: they It won't be a veteran off the street that

928
00:49:19,440 --> 00:49:21,839
Speaker 1: doesn't have recent track record of success. I think they're

929
00:49:21,840 --> 00:49:24,480
Speaker 1: going to give him someone that the fan base can

930
00:49:24,520 --> 00:49:27,400
Speaker 1: get a little excited about. So I look to the

931
00:49:27,440 --> 00:49:31,560
Speaker 1: Minnesota Vikings, who have Sam Bradford, who would qualify, who

932
00:49:31,640 --> 00:49:34,759
Speaker 1: have case Keenum who would qualify, and who have Teddy Bridgewater.

933
00:49:34,800 --> 00:49:38,480
Speaker 1: All three I think would qualify something the fans could say, Okay, well,

934
00:49:38,560 --> 00:49:44,239
Speaker 1: so how uh they can all get behind it. I

935
00:49:44,280 --> 00:49:50,160
Speaker 1: need to finish, continue on. It's just let me finish. Okay,

936
00:49:51,400 --> 00:49:55,319
Speaker 1: this is uncomfortable. The Arizona Cardinals. We'll sign one of

937
00:49:55,360 --> 00:50:00,040
Speaker 1: those Vikings quarterbacks that played in two thousand seventeen. I

938
00:50:00,040 --> 00:50:03,480
Speaker 1: I cannot take you up on this. Because unfortunately, and

939
00:50:03,520 --> 00:50:06,040
Speaker 1: I'm showing Dan the paperwork that was that was one

940
00:50:06,040 --> 00:50:08,000
Speaker 1: of my pride. How random is that that the Cards

941
00:50:08,040 --> 00:50:10,640
Speaker 1: would sign a Vikings quarterback? Wow? Because I'm not gonna

942
00:50:10,640 --> 00:50:13,240
Speaker 1: get Kirk Cousins. I don't think she's beating the drum.

943
00:50:13,480 --> 00:50:15,680
Speaker 1: So I think they'll have to settle for the secondary market.

944
00:50:15,680 --> 00:50:17,479
Speaker 1: I don't think they'll go through the draft with Lyaron

945
00:50:17,520 --> 00:50:19,839
Speaker 1: Fitzgerald there in his last season. I think they'll get

946
00:50:19,840 --> 00:50:21,560
Speaker 1: a veteran QB. And those are the best ones in

947
00:50:21,600 --> 00:50:23,240
Speaker 1: the market. I mean, I had one of mine extra

948
00:50:23,280 --> 00:50:25,640
Speaker 1: ones with Teddy Bridgewater to the Cardinals and just hearing

949
00:50:25,760 --> 00:50:29,000
Speaker 1: Steve Kim and hearing ownership on down they are talking

950
00:50:29,000 --> 00:50:33,120
Speaker 1: about attacking the quarterback market in the draft, in free agency,

951
00:50:33,200 --> 00:50:35,040
Speaker 1: they have no quarterbacks. You're gonna have to sign probably

952
00:50:35,040 --> 00:50:37,879
Speaker 1: two quarterbacks and draft one or do that in reverse order.

953
00:50:38,040 --> 00:50:39,719
Speaker 1: So I won't take you up because I think that

954
00:50:39,760 --> 00:50:43,279
Speaker 1: if you're looking at a legit starter, a challenger, it

955
00:50:43,280 --> 00:50:45,640
Speaker 1: has to come from Minnesota. Who else is even in

956
00:50:45,680 --> 00:50:48,839
Speaker 1: the mix? I guess Josh Town. But I mean that's

957
00:50:48,880 --> 00:50:51,520
Speaker 1: I could which would make sense. That's not a fan

958
00:50:51,560 --> 00:50:58,879
Speaker 1: excitement guy. A J. Mccaren yeah, anyway, I could really

959
00:50:58,880 --> 00:51:01,319
Speaker 1: see Josh McCown. But I think the math tells me

960
00:51:01,360 --> 00:51:06,360
Speaker 1: that I I can't take this because I no action.

961
00:51:06,920 --> 00:51:08,440
Speaker 1: It's you know what, it's a good one, but it's

962
00:51:08,480 --> 00:51:12,920
Speaker 1: two it's it makes too much sense process of elimination.

963
00:51:12,960 --> 00:51:14,959
Speaker 1: I gotta pivot to coming up with something else here

964
00:51:16,920 --> 00:51:20,759
Speaker 1: to take a Well, we got well, I've already gone,

965
00:51:20,800 --> 00:51:23,879
Speaker 1: so we're going back to Mark. I got time. I'm good. Alright, Okay, Mark,

966
00:51:23,920 --> 00:51:25,319
Speaker 1: you all right? Now. I know we don't want long

967
00:51:25,360 --> 00:51:27,360
Speaker 1: window ones, but this has to happen. If it's going

968
00:51:27,440 --> 00:51:29,560
Speaker 1: to happen in the next month, it's got to happen,

969
00:51:29,640 --> 00:51:32,320
Speaker 1: probably in the middle of free agency or well before

970
00:51:32,320 --> 00:51:36,600
Speaker 1: the draft Joe Thomas retires. Wow, I'll take you out

971
00:51:36,880 --> 00:51:38,920
Speaker 1: before this well, it's flipping the coin. But I think

972
00:51:39,040 --> 00:51:41,759
Speaker 1: we need to put an end date on it. I mean, no,

973
00:51:41,840 --> 00:51:43,560
Speaker 1: I think it's gonna happen. But like I, i'd say,

974
00:51:43,600 --> 00:51:46,480
Speaker 1: but before the draft, distinctly before the draft. Is that fair?

975
00:51:46,480 --> 00:51:48,440
Speaker 1: Because he's he's he told them he's gonna have to

976
00:51:48,520 --> 00:51:50,960
Speaker 1: let them know who they have to be before the draft,

977
00:51:51,000 --> 00:51:54,279
Speaker 1: so that that's it. I know Mark has sparrows that

978
00:51:54,280 --> 00:51:57,160
Speaker 1: he talks to. He's he's friendly with several of the

979
00:51:57,200 --> 00:52:00,960
Speaker 1: Beat reporters, so he's got sources inside that built. All

980
00:52:00,960 --> 00:52:03,320
Speaker 1: the time, you'll hear marks say, oh, this is happening

981
00:52:03,440 --> 00:52:05,879
Speaker 1: or I heard this, So you're this is not being

982
00:52:05,880 --> 00:52:09,040
Speaker 1: pulled out of thin air. The sources are say the opposite. Actually,

983
00:52:09,360 --> 00:52:11,520
Speaker 1: on this one, I'm saying, there's somebody that's in your

984
00:52:11,520 --> 00:52:14,280
Speaker 1: ear that said this could happen. You're not just because obviously,

985
00:52:14,280 --> 00:52:18,359
Speaker 1: why if I didn't actually think that. I I like

986
00:52:18,440 --> 00:52:20,000
Speaker 1: for you to think that you have a Mary Kay

987
00:52:20,160 --> 00:52:23,800
Speaker 1: cabin or someone from the actual Browns dot com telling

988
00:52:23,840 --> 00:52:28,520
Speaker 1: you that your face you know. Honestly, the reason I

989
00:52:28,520 --> 00:52:30,680
Speaker 1: went with this direction because I think if I said

990
00:52:30,680 --> 00:52:32,560
Speaker 1: he will turn, I don't get any action on that.

991
00:52:32,640 --> 00:52:35,640
Speaker 1: Because rap Sheets said at the combine he's coming back,

992
00:52:35,840 --> 00:52:37,879
Speaker 1: right like, I'm taking you up on it. Yeah, yeah,

993
00:52:37,880 --> 00:52:40,080
Speaker 1: you're getting action. Yeah I want I'm taking that action.

994
00:52:40,239 --> 00:52:42,000
Speaker 1: And you're right, I don't think anybody would take you

995
00:52:42,040 --> 00:52:44,400
Speaker 1: if you said that he's coming back to Yeah, I

996
00:52:44,440 --> 00:52:48,239
Speaker 1: will lose, but it's not. But there's a sparrow. I

997
00:52:48,280 --> 00:52:50,600
Speaker 1: will be honest. In this case, there is and and

998
00:52:50,600 --> 00:52:54,719
Speaker 1: there is no sparrow. On this one. Actually, don't even

999
00:52:54,760 --> 00:52:56,839
Speaker 1: care whether you win. You just want action. I just

1000
00:52:57,440 --> 00:52:59,439
Speaker 1: I think for him. What I want to think about

1001
00:52:59,560 --> 00:53:01,760
Speaker 1: is why would he come back? The money? The money

1002
00:53:01,800 --> 00:53:03,840
Speaker 1: is one thing, but unless you're gonna come back for

1003
00:53:03,840 --> 00:53:06,000
Speaker 1: three or four seasons, I'm looking in your eyes right now.

1004
00:53:06,400 --> 00:53:08,879
Speaker 1: I don't have somebody said something to you. I mean,

1005
00:53:08,880 --> 00:53:13,160
Speaker 1: I'm telling you the tree on your tweet deck. Sure,

1006
00:53:14,280 --> 00:53:16,719
Speaker 1: I have nothing on this one. I'm just saying, why

1007
00:53:16,800 --> 00:53:19,920
Speaker 1: would he come back for one season? Tell you that,

1008
00:53:20,000 --> 00:53:23,600
Speaker 1: Joe Thomas? How about we get to look at your

1009
00:53:23,600 --> 00:53:27,640
Speaker 1: Facebook messenger? Uh? Back and forth? I mean talk about it.

1010
00:53:27,719 --> 00:53:32,319
Speaker 1: I using Facebook. I'm actually using Facebook. Probably I would

1011
00:53:32,360 --> 00:53:34,520
Speaker 1: like I feel like we might find out. This is

1012
00:53:34,560 --> 00:53:38,959
Speaker 1: like when they're investigating Trump or any you know, any

1013
00:53:39,200 --> 00:53:41,520
Speaker 1: sort of legal So there's here's the real perilel They

1014
00:53:41,600 --> 00:53:43,759
Speaker 1: never they never really find what they what they are

1015
00:53:43,800 --> 00:53:46,040
Speaker 1: initially looking for, but then you find some other things.

1016
00:53:46,040 --> 00:53:48,000
Speaker 1: Did you have unless you're Tom Brady and you smash

1017
00:53:48,040 --> 00:53:50,560
Speaker 1: your phone? Did you have a boozy conversation with Mike

1018
00:53:50,640 --> 00:53:54,280
Speaker 1: Silver at the combine? Heard from Hugh Jackson, His boy

1019
00:53:54,840 --> 00:53:57,239
Speaker 1: Joe Thomas is having major doubts he would not tell me.

1020
00:53:57,280 --> 00:53:58,840
Speaker 1: He would not tell me a word yes or no.

1021
00:53:59,000 --> 00:54:06,040
Speaker 1: Mike Silver They Rick, no, not. I like the fact

1022
00:54:06,040 --> 00:54:10,640
Speaker 1: that you believe this is information. Darrell Reuterer, Nope, none

1023
00:54:10,640 --> 00:54:15,640
Speaker 1: of those tell you anything, not at all. Alright, I'm

1024
00:54:15,680 --> 00:54:18,000
Speaker 1: taking it, are you? Yeah, I'm taking it all right.

1025
00:54:18,040 --> 00:54:20,200
Speaker 1: You got a lot of sandwiches on the line. Good job, Mark.

1026
00:54:21,160 --> 00:54:24,040
Speaker 1: Kyle Fuller signs a contract with a team not named

1027
00:54:24,040 --> 00:54:27,359
Speaker 1: the Chicago Bears. That doesn't mean he can't also sign

1028
00:54:27,400 --> 00:54:29,279
Speaker 1: a contract with the Bears, but he will sign with

1029
00:54:29,280 --> 00:54:33,480
Speaker 1: another team, he said, like an offer sheet that the Bears.

1030
00:54:33,560 --> 00:54:36,960
Speaker 1: I agree with you, right, isn't he? I think this

1031
00:54:37,000 --> 00:54:40,480
Speaker 1: one is well, not all transition tag guys signed with

1032
00:54:40,560 --> 00:54:43,399
Speaker 1: another team. I think this is a case where it's

1033
00:54:43,400 --> 00:54:46,640
Speaker 1: pretty close to fifty fifty, just because that that number

1034
00:54:46,760 --> 00:54:51,680
Speaker 1: for him is so high, and he has an interesting,

1035
00:54:52,239 --> 00:54:55,560
Speaker 1: really up and down career, so it's it's possible he won't.

1036
00:54:56,360 --> 00:54:57,960
Speaker 1: I don't think it's crazy. I'm not going to take

1037
00:54:58,000 --> 00:55:00,239
Speaker 1: you up on another two. Ultimately, I do think some

1038
00:55:00,320 --> 00:55:02,719
Speaker 1: team will go for him. I would guess that the

1039
00:55:02,800 --> 00:55:05,960
Speaker 1: numbers say way more than half do not sign a

1040
00:55:06,040 --> 00:55:08,279
Speaker 1: transition type players do not sign with another team. I mean,

1041
00:55:08,280 --> 00:55:11,799
Speaker 1: it's not used that often. Alex Mack signed a sheet,

1042
00:55:11,840 --> 00:55:14,920
Speaker 1: I believe with the Jaguars. How that him? Yeah, Olivia

1043
00:55:15,040 --> 00:55:16,960
Speaker 1: Vernon had one and then they took it off of

1044
00:55:17,040 --> 00:55:20,200
Speaker 1: him before he even signed with the Giants, So refresh

1045
00:55:20,280 --> 00:55:23,640
Speaker 1: my memory. They get to shop themselves. It's like a

1046
00:55:23,640 --> 00:55:27,719
Speaker 1: restrictive free agent. Yeah, he's basically a free agent and uh,

1047
00:55:28,000 --> 00:55:30,600
Speaker 1: except the Bears getting nothing in return. So he's gonna

1048
00:55:30,640 --> 00:55:32,120
Speaker 1: go out there and he's going to try to get

1049
00:55:32,120 --> 00:55:35,280
Speaker 1: a great deal elsewhere, and the Bears are are hoping

1050
00:55:35,320 --> 00:55:37,520
Speaker 1: he doesn't. I think that he will get an offer

1051
00:55:37,600 --> 00:55:40,520
Speaker 1: because I think he's at a position of need and

1052
00:55:40,560 --> 00:55:42,880
Speaker 1: he's he's he's the right age and all that stuff,

1053
00:55:42,920 --> 00:55:44,399
Speaker 1: coming off a great year, So I think he will

1054
00:55:44,440 --> 00:55:47,920
Speaker 1: get an offer. To you say, he will as well? Nothing,

1055
00:55:48,520 --> 00:55:52,600
Speaker 1: No nobody reeled, nobody in on that to no reels.

1056
00:55:53,120 --> 00:55:54,960
Speaker 1: We need a better word for that, small fish, No

1057
00:55:55,160 --> 00:55:58,440
Speaker 1: RELs reels. All right, this one, Greg, this is right

1058
00:55:58,480 --> 00:56:05,279
Speaker 1: out of your playbook. You're ready amongst non quarterbacks. So

1059
00:56:05,440 --> 00:56:08,279
Speaker 1: you take out Kirk, you take out Drew and let

1060
00:56:08,280 --> 00:56:12,440
Speaker 1: me just cover myself here. Um, take out and Dominican

1061
00:56:12,520 --> 00:56:18,839
Speaker 1: sue if he hits the market. Okay, Andrew Norwell gets

1062
00:56:18,920 --> 00:56:23,200
Speaker 1: the most guaranteed money in free agency. Guard a lot

1063
00:56:23,239 --> 00:56:26,200
Speaker 1: of percolating buzz that he's going to the Giants, and

1064
00:56:26,200 --> 00:56:28,600
Speaker 1: it's almost a done deal already. I looked at your

1065
00:56:28,600 --> 00:56:32,960
Speaker 1: boy Mark Kevin Zeitler last year. I got a crap

1066
00:56:33,000 --> 00:56:37,560
Speaker 1: ton of money, uh, guaranteed money, and you look at

1067
00:56:37,600 --> 00:56:40,160
Speaker 1: everyone else in the in the top ten for your

1068
00:56:40,200 --> 00:56:43,520
Speaker 1: guys is one on one, I think uh. I think

1069
00:56:43,760 --> 00:56:47,800
Speaker 1: Norwell again offensive line, which is a major premium position

1070
00:56:47,840 --> 00:56:50,840
Speaker 1: free agency, because everybody stinks he's gonna get paid a

1071
00:56:50,840 --> 00:56:54,839
Speaker 1: lot of dough by his boy Dave Gettleman. So take

1072
00:56:54,880 --> 00:56:58,520
Speaker 1: out Sue and cousins and Breeze and you get the field.

1073
00:56:59,320 --> 00:57:01,680
Speaker 1: I'll take the yell just as a matter of principle.

1074
00:57:01,760 --> 00:57:05,080
Speaker 1: I think this is a good a good uh, come on,

1075
00:57:06,040 --> 00:57:09,279
Speaker 1: a good wager propped by by Dan because I think

1076
00:57:09,320 --> 00:57:12,000
Speaker 1: Norwell would I thought you would certainly has a chance.

1077
00:57:12,880 --> 00:57:14,879
Speaker 1: He has a solid chance. I unfortunately have a very

1078
00:57:14,920 --> 00:57:17,080
Speaker 1: similar one coming next. I will I will take you

1079
00:57:17,160 --> 00:57:19,200
Speaker 1: up in the spirit of the game. I think you're

1080
00:57:19,520 --> 00:57:23,080
Speaker 1: again though. It's logical, nice one logical. M you know

1081
00:57:23,120 --> 00:57:25,960
Speaker 1: who I would keep an eye on if I were you, Well, Well,

1082
00:57:26,000 --> 00:57:28,000
Speaker 1: I'll get to it. But Sheldon Richardson is one guy

1083
00:57:28,000 --> 00:57:30,040
Speaker 1: I think keep an eye on st I think he's

1084
00:57:30,040 --> 00:57:32,120
Speaker 1: got to do it, although that he probably isn't getting.

1085
00:57:34,040 --> 00:57:36,120
Speaker 1: I want to take you up on it too, And

1086
00:57:36,160 --> 00:57:38,920
Speaker 1: I feel like Sammy Watkins could be a wild card. Yep,

1087
00:57:39,040 --> 00:57:43,520
Speaker 1: I looked at him Solder. You never know, Robinson, you

1088
00:57:43,600 --> 00:57:46,080
Speaker 1: never know. Yeah, you know. Norwell is kind of the

1089
00:57:46,120 --> 00:57:49,640
Speaker 1: safest bet of all. He's kind of to me, he's

1090
00:57:49,640 --> 00:57:52,240
Speaker 1: the favorite, but that doesn't mean he's he's likely to

1091
00:57:52,360 --> 00:57:54,840
Speaker 1: actually be the guy. If that I agree. I agree

1092
00:57:54,880 --> 00:57:57,360
Speaker 1: with Greg, but out of principle, I'm gonna take the field.

1093
00:57:58,080 --> 00:58:01,280
Speaker 1: It's a it's a very well played thank you, and

1094
00:58:01,400 --> 00:58:03,840
Speaker 1: it might cost me everything. But because you might have,

1095
00:58:03,920 --> 00:58:05,800
Speaker 1: you might have lured us into a trap there. That

1096
00:58:05,880 --> 00:58:08,320
Speaker 1: was well done. All right, Greg why had a similar one,

1097
00:58:08,360 --> 00:58:10,440
Speaker 1: But I'm sticking with it because it's a little different.

1098
00:58:11,280 --> 00:58:14,760
Speaker 1: Chremaine Johnson will get the most guaranteed money of any

1099
00:58:14,840 --> 00:58:17,720
Speaker 1: defensive player, and you can throw in Sue or anyone

1100
00:58:17,800 --> 00:58:19,840
Speaker 1: else that happens to get cut in the meantime. To

1101
00:58:20,240 --> 00:58:25,720
Speaker 1: Tremaine Johnson of the the most of any defensive of

1102
00:58:25,800 --> 00:58:30,440
Speaker 1: any defensive player Tremaine Johnson gets it. He's going to

1103
00:58:30,520 --> 00:58:41,160
Speaker 1: get into the forty Niners pockets the buzz an they

1104
00:58:41,200 --> 00:58:47,480
Speaker 1: got the money, alright, So defense, So Richardson, Kyle Fuller,

1105
00:58:48,080 --> 00:58:56,840
Speaker 1: Malcolm Butler, Suean, potentially Boy Wilkerson, Honey Badger, potentially Honey Badger.

1106
00:58:57,680 --> 00:59:00,560
Speaker 1: I'll throw in all the cut guys too. I'm gonna

1107
00:59:00,640 --> 00:59:03,040
Speaker 1: bank on Honey Badger getting cut and signing a big

1108
00:59:03,040 --> 00:59:05,480
Speaker 1: contract with the team that wants that type of guy

1109
00:59:05,480 --> 00:59:08,320
Speaker 1: in their clubhouse, and I'm willing to pay for it,

1110
00:59:08,480 --> 00:59:12,160
Speaker 1: similar to Dan's. I believe he is the favorite, but

1111
00:59:12,200 --> 00:59:14,600
Speaker 1: I'll still take the field. All right, I will too.

1112
00:59:14,800 --> 00:59:23,240
Speaker 1: Let's do it. Saucy good Round's back breaking. The Open

1113
00:59:23,360 --> 00:59:27,640
Speaker 1: Raiders defensive tackle Justin Ellis has agreed to a three

1114
00:59:27,720 --> 00:59:31,480
Speaker 1: year deal worth fifteen million dollars. Take off the top

1115
00:59:31,520 --> 00:59:34,880
Speaker 1: one O one Big news. It's shaking up the NFL world.

1116
00:59:35,440 --> 00:59:43,400
Speaker 1: Everyone Bigger news ESPNS. Adam Schefter reports Mike Evans has

1117
00:59:43,400 --> 00:59:50,840
Speaker 1: agreed to a five five million including million and guarantees.

1118
00:59:51,600 --> 00:59:54,480
Speaker 1: Greg you got flown out. I'm sticking with it. Just

1119
00:59:54,680 --> 00:59:58,880
Speaker 1: rap Sheet reports seventeen million a year in the Mike

1120
00:59:58,920 --> 01:00:01,840
Speaker 1: Evans deal right under Antonio Brown is the highest paid

1121
01:00:01,960 --> 01:00:05,240
Speaker 1: NFL receiver. I think Greg Smith news might have been

1122
01:00:05,640 --> 01:00:08,000
Speaker 1: a little bit bigger. I don't even remember Greg's I

1123
01:00:08,600 --> 01:00:10,880
Speaker 1: it has. It has a big impact in my house

1124
01:00:10,920 --> 01:00:13,680
Speaker 1: because now it's time to get that Raiders Ellis Jersey

1125
01:00:13,720 --> 01:00:16,360
Speaker 1: that I've been thinking about for years for my daughter.

1126
01:00:16,760 --> 01:00:19,479
Speaker 1: It's happening. Mike Evans gets paid a ton of dough

1127
01:00:19,760 --> 01:00:21,560
Speaker 1: makes all the sense in the world. Pair your young

1128
01:00:21,640 --> 01:00:24,800
Speaker 1: quarterback with a young stud wide receiver didn't have a

1129
01:00:24,840 --> 01:00:28,200
Speaker 1: great year last year, but was unstoppable the year before,

1130
01:00:28,440 --> 01:00:34,560
Speaker 1: already getting paid more than Norwell, you're done account. I

1131
01:00:34,560 --> 01:00:39,360
Speaker 1: am all out on the bucks, all out. They did

1132
01:00:39,360 --> 01:00:42,040
Speaker 1: me wrong. Cutter came back. They did a song last year.

1133
01:00:42,080 --> 01:00:48,600
Speaker 1: Come on, I don't wanna Every few days I suddenly

1134
01:00:48,640 --> 01:00:51,280
Speaker 1: think about that, Like, wait, Cutter and Mike Smith are

1135
01:00:51,280 --> 01:00:54,520
Speaker 1: still their coaches. Like Mike Smith still there too, Like publicly,

1136
01:00:54,640 --> 01:00:56,480
Speaker 1: that guy was pulling his hair out by week four

1137
01:00:56,520 --> 01:01:01,320
Speaker 1: the preseason, Dirk Cutter and James Instant we're like feuding

1138
01:01:01,360 --> 01:01:04,400
Speaker 1: at the end of the season through the newspapers and

1139
01:01:04,440 --> 01:01:06,560
Speaker 1: they went like three and thirteen, let's bring him back.

1140
01:01:07,080 --> 01:01:11,160
Speaker 1: They brought Fitz back. They beat the Saints in that

1141
01:01:11,240 --> 01:01:13,600
Speaker 1: week's seventeen game. I think that saved him. All right,

1142
01:01:13,840 --> 01:01:17,880
Speaker 1: there we go, last time, last time around, Mark, go ahead, alright,

1143
01:01:17,960 --> 01:01:19,400
Speaker 1: less a lot of pressure on you, by the way,

1144
01:01:19,640 --> 01:01:21,360
Speaker 1: come up here. You never want to go a whole

1145
01:01:21,400 --> 01:01:25,240
Speaker 1: game without anybody getting in. He did the first time around.

1146
01:01:25,520 --> 01:01:27,200
Speaker 1: I thought you did. I thought the first two kids,

1147
01:01:27,240 --> 01:01:29,760
Speaker 1: and I sort of misspoke that there were two different

1148
01:01:29,800 --> 01:01:37,080
Speaker 1: ones in general yours and I gotta yeah, all right,

1149
01:01:37,160 --> 01:01:39,680
Speaker 1: we will come out of free agency with a scenario.

1150
01:01:39,960 --> 01:01:42,880
Speaker 1: I'll take that that takes takes on a nickname bigger

1151
01:01:42,920 --> 01:01:46,640
Speaker 1: than the helmet, right, I'll take it. How this one

1152
01:01:46,760 --> 01:01:49,520
Speaker 1: free agency fallow. I really feel like this is going

1153
01:01:49,560 --> 01:01:53,840
Speaker 1: to happen. There will be a high profile firing at

1154
01:01:53,840 --> 01:01:56,480
Speaker 1: the sort of tail end fallout of free agency because

1155
01:01:56,520 --> 01:01:59,680
Speaker 1: one team that goes in with big plans totally open

1156
01:02:00,200 --> 01:02:03,600
Speaker 1: spotches what they were trying to do, and it creates

1157
01:02:03,640 --> 01:02:07,000
Speaker 1: a pr disaster and there is a big name firing.

1158
01:02:07,720 --> 01:02:10,720
Speaker 1: Even before the draft. I didn't big name firing. Obviously,

1159
01:02:12,600 --> 01:02:14,640
Speaker 1: big name fire. You have to be a general manager.

1160
01:02:14,680 --> 01:02:16,800
Speaker 1: I think we need to be someone that would talk

1161
01:02:16,840 --> 01:02:20,280
Speaker 1: at the combine, someone yeah, not like not like oh,

1162
01:02:20,360 --> 01:02:24,160
Speaker 1: the fifth guy, and I'm going think coach, a GM

1163
01:02:24,280 --> 01:02:27,000
Speaker 1: or or like let's say a personal someone like a

1164
01:02:27,200 --> 01:02:30,080
Speaker 1: like a football's are Yeah, someone in the world and

1165
01:02:30,800 --> 01:02:33,160
Speaker 1: a true decision maker. We can all like Tannin Bam

1166
01:02:33,240 --> 01:02:35,960
Speaker 1: would count for instance, some sort of other something like

1167
01:02:36,000 --> 01:02:38,200
Speaker 1: that we we can in the end day. Is the

1168
01:02:38,280 --> 01:02:42,040
Speaker 1: draft again, Yes, And I am glad I pre took this.

1169
01:02:42,160 --> 01:02:44,840
Speaker 1: I actually would like pre took. I am gonna pla.

1170
01:02:45,720 --> 01:02:52,320
Speaker 1: I'm gonna pre take Mark's third prop just moving forward forever. Definitely.

1171
01:02:52,440 --> 01:02:56,080
Speaker 1: I will also take this one. Take personnel groups, and

1172
01:02:56,160 --> 01:02:59,320
Speaker 1: I think sometimes even gms get cleared out right after

1173
01:02:59,360 --> 01:03:02,040
Speaker 1: the draft. We're talking before the drest Doug Whaley, for instance,

1174
01:03:02,040 --> 01:03:04,840
Speaker 1: did last year Scott mclewin. So I don't let me

1175
01:03:04,920 --> 01:03:07,520
Speaker 1: ask you a question that's okay. I mean I think

1176
01:03:07,520 --> 01:03:09,880
Speaker 1: it's before. If it's after, it's probably that could happen

1177
01:03:09,960 --> 01:03:11,760
Speaker 1: for other reasons that I would be MESSI here. I

1178
01:03:11,840 --> 01:03:14,200
Speaker 1: I really think it will be in response to like

1179
01:03:14,360 --> 01:03:17,080
Speaker 1: in house fighting that leaks out to the press based

1180
01:03:17,120 --> 01:03:20,280
Speaker 1: on a free agency disaster. So the deadline is I

1181
01:03:20,280 --> 01:03:23,920
Speaker 1: believe April short when by the first pick of the draft,

1182
01:03:24,960 --> 01:03:28,400
Speaker 1: I'm in. You got you got three wages there alright,

1183
01:03:28,480 --> 01:03:34,040
Speaker 1: West last one the Arthur Jones Memorial one team versus

1184
01:03:34,080 --> 01:03:36,400
Speaker 1: the field. Yep, I got one too, so but this

1185
01:03:36,440 --> 01:03:40,360
Speaker 1: one is going at another level deeper. Both A. J.

1186
01:03:40,520 --> 01:03:45,000
Speaker 1: McCarron and Terrell Prior signed with the Cleveland Browns. You

1187
01:03:45,040 --> 01:03:48,480
Speaker 1: guys get the other thirty one teams. A J. McCarron

1188
01:03:48,480 --> 01:03:52,560
Speaker 1: and who prior West and I had the same exact bet.

1189
01:03:54,240 --> 01:03:56,480
Speaker 1: I also had that my last one was gonna be

1190
01:03:56,480 --> 01:04:00,840
Speaker 1: Tarrell Prior prior to the Browns. But I can't take

1191
01:04:00,880 --> 01:04:02,640
Speaker 1: you because I believe it will happen, and I've had

1192
01:04:02,680 --> 01:04:04,960
Speaker 1: it as as one myself. Yeah, because this goes against

1193
01:04:04,960 --> 01:04:07,800
Speaker 1: Greg though, because you get all thirty one team, Yeah,

1194
01:04:07,840 --> 01:04:10,000
Speaker 1: I'll probably I'll take it. And two things I have

1195
01:04:10,080 --> 01:04:12,120
Speaker 1: to have. I think I think it's a clever one

1196
01:04:12,120 --> 01:04:14,040
Speaker 1: because I do think there's a really good chance you

1197
01:04:14,160 --> 01:04:17,479
Speaker 1: get it, right though, just because mccaren's I just think

1198
01:04:17,520 --> 01:04:20,080
Speaker 1: they these are two players that the Browns love more

1199
01:04:20,120 --> 01:04:21,520
Speaker 1: than the rest of the league. And we know it.

1200
01:04:21,680 --> 01:04:24,919
Speaker 1: This trap, this lure was thrown out specifically to get

1201
01:04:24,960 --> 01:04:30,440
Speaker 1: Greg Rosenthal got him. Yeah, Well, and for for Greg

1202
01:04:30,600 --> 01:04:33,240
Speaker 1: in theory, I could just say no, then just goes

1203
01:04:33,280 --> 01:04:37,760
Speaker 1: against everything you believe in. Give Greg the field, he'll

1204
01:04:37,800 --> 01:04:42,680
Speaker 1: take it. Not only the field, but double permutation, double problem,

1205
01:04:42,800 --> 01:04:47,520
Speaker 1: got an unwieldy mechanism here. I believe in children? Is

1206
01:04:47,560 --> 01:04:51,480
Speaker 1: this Whitney Houston song, I believe in professional tennis. You

1207
01:04:51,520 --> 01:04:54,920
Speaker 1: are speaking out loud. I'll talk. I'll take that just

1208
01:04:54,960 --> 01:04:57,040
Speaker 1: to make it more interesting. I'll take it too, because

1209
01:04:57,400 --> 01:04:59,920
Speaker 1: even though I threw Prior out there, that's another one.

1210
01:05:00,000 --> 01:05:02,520
Speaker 1: Those things are Oh, makes so much sense or troup

1211
01:05:02,560 --> 01:05:04,000
Speaker 1: prior to go back to the brands. But does it

1212
01:05:04,040 --> 01:05:06,000
Speaker 1: really What if another team likes him a lot and

1213
01:05:06,040 --> 01:05:08,720
Speaker 1: offers him more money? I think, yeah, I I feel

1214
01:05:08,720 --> 01:05:11,280
Speaker 1: like mccare Karen feels more predestined at this point, but

1215
01:05:11,560 --> 01:05:14,280
Speaker 1: that even that, who knows. So I will take you,

1216
01:05:14,520 --> 01:05:17,600
Speaker 1: but it makes sense. That's a good one, and you

1217
01:05:17,640 --> 01:05:20,240
Speaker 1: took mind. So I'm gonna go. I'm just gonna fly

1218
01:05:20,280 --> 01:05:22,480
Speaker 1: by the seat of my pants and say um, even

1219
01:05:22,520 --> 01:05:24,200
Speaker 1: though a lot of people say it won't happen for

1220
01:05:24,240 --> 01:05:28,480
Speaker 1: a while because teams are gonna want to see, um,

1221
01:05:28,960 --> 01:05:33,600
Speaker 1: how he's recovering and blah blah blah. Richard Sherman signs

1222
01:05:33,880 --> 01:05:44,040
Speaker 1: uh within mhmm, lot of Sherman within three weeks of

1223
01:05:44,080 --> 01:05:46,800
Speaker 1: the start of free agency. That's the onion hanging. Okay, um,

1224
01:05:46,800 --> 01:05:49,439
Speaker 1: three weeks of the start of free agency. I think

1225
01:05:49,440 --> 01:05:53,680
Speaker 1: he will. Okay, it's widely thought that he will, not

1226
01:05:54,160 --> 01:05:58,000
Speaker 1: that teams are gonna wait this thing out, going against

1227
01:05:58,000 --> 01:06:02,720
Speaker 1: the football. Gagna sent the I think he will looking

1228
01:06:02,760 --> 01:06:05,480
Speaker 1: for a coin to flip. Yeah, this one feels up

1229
01:06:05,480 --> 01:06:07,480
Speaker 1: in the air because I could see he's a good

1230
01:06:07,600 --> 01:06:10,840
Speaker 1: enough player that a team is just gonna take the

1231
01:06:10,920 --> 01:06:13,320
Speaker 1: chance and get it done, like a team like the

1232
01:06:13,360 --> 01:06:16,360
Speaker 1: forty nine ers. How you mentioned just for sporting purposes.

1233
01:06:16,360 --> 01:06:20,280
Speaker 1: I'll take it. Yeah, I'll take it. Sure, Okay, I

1234
01:06:20,320 --> 01:06:27,040
Speaker 1: think it's Greg close it up. Mine was gonna be

1235
01:06:27,200 --> 01:06:32,200
Speaker 1: Marshawn Lynch gets cut after all this talk by the Raiders.

1236
01:06:32,200 --> 01:06:37,600
Speaker 1: Bye bye? What had happened? What's the time frame here?

1237
01:06:37,840 --> 01:06:41,320
Speaker 1: Just open ended? All right, it's a good question. Yeah,

1238
01:06:41,480 --> 01:06:44,040
Speaker 1: I'll even say by the end of March. Yeah, I

1239
01:06:44,080 --> 01:06:46,560
Speaker 1: think any of these need to be before the draft. Right. Um,

1240
01:06:46,920 --> 01:06:48,800
Speaker 1: I'll take you. But I think that you got your

1241
01:06:48,840 --> 01:06:53,760
Speaker 1: onto something there after all this. Oh this is our guy. Yeah,

1242
01:06:54,280 --> 01:06:56,880
Speaker 1: oh yeah, wait it's John Gordon. I will not take you.

1243
01:06:57,400 --> 01:06:59,840
Speaker 1: He's Scardon's already out having dinner with Doug Martin. There's

1244
01:06:59,880 --> 01:07:03,280
Speaker 1: an I'm not taking that one. Okay, there you go.

1245
01:07:04,480 --> 01:07:09,200
Speaker 1: So Nick Fortier does a great job every year organizing this.

1246
01:07:09,240 --> 01:07:11,800
Speaker 1: He also has that great drops board. Uh if you

1247
01:07:11,840 --> 01:07:15,720
Speaker 1: want to check out uh some golden Around the NFL

1248
01:07:15,760 --> 01:07:20,320
Speaker 1: podcast drops his sound his soundboard. Uh, so check that

1249
01:07:20,320 --> 01:07:23,200
Speaker 1: out of Go get my Lunch dot org. We will

1250
01:07:23,240 --> 01:07:27,080
Speaker 1: be back on Monday, uh for the beginning of the

1251
01:07:27,240 --> 01:07:31,680
Speaker 1: legally legal tamping tampera period. Uh. And then we will

1252
01:07:31,720 --> 01:07:35,280
Speaker 1: have shows Wednesday, which will be the starter Free Agency

1253
01:07:35,280 --> 01:07:37,160
Speaker 1: will show go up a little bit later because we

1254
01:07:37,200 --> 01:07:39,360
Speaker 1: want to have some of this info in hand, and

1255
01:07:39,360 --> 01:07:41,040
Speaker 1: then we'll have a Friday show that will be kind

1256
01:07:41,040 --> 01:07:46,440
Speaker 1: of clearing up the first week the debris of the tsunami.

1257
01:07:46,520 --> 01:07:48,560
Speaker 1: Now it's kind of like a signing tsunami, is that

1258
01:07:48,680 --> 01:07:51,840
Speaker 1: fair to say? As well? It'll be some cut cut tsunami.

1259
01:07:52,840 --> 01:07:56,040
Speaker 1: And then the next week after that, oh yeah, we're

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Speaker 1: gonna be heading to Orlando. Oh yeah, beautiful Orlando where

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Speaker 1: for the first time ever, the Around the NFL podcast

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Speaker 1: as a foursome will be recording live from the owners meetings.

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Speaker 1: So we're very excited about that. We're gonna do two

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Speaker 1: shows some Orlando in the last week of March, so

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Speaker 1: things are happening. Shadowy League figures were exercised from the

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Speaker 1: building and a direct result of that means the show

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Speaker 1: has some support and that's nice. Could say too much, Greg,

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Speaker 1: and I've been to this uh double Astle Hotel in Orlando.

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Speaker 1: This is You're gonna like this. The Digs famously went

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Speaker 1: jogging together. This is the one owners meaning where I've

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Speaker 1: been to And yes, famously we went jogging. Okay, so

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Speaker 1: a lot of fun stuff coming up as the NFL

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Speaker 1: uh calendar gets into a real saucy portion. But let's

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Speaker 1: get out of here. Have a good weekend, everybody. This

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Speaker 1: is Dan Hansis signing off for the Quiet Storm, The Mailman,

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Speaker 1: the Old Boss and Miss money Bags lindsay full time,

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Speaker 1: give me something happen, money, give me, give me, don't

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Speaker 1: bunda