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Speaker 1: Welcome to Reality with the King. It's me Carlos Kings,

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Speaker 1: the King of Reality TV and one of the most

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Speaker 1: sought after executive producers in reality television with over ten

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Speaker 1: years a production experience. Twice a week on Reality with

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Speaker 1: the King, we'll sit down with my friends across the

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Speaker 1: entertainment industry, recap our favorite reality shows, and revisit unforgettable

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Speaker 1: moments that we are still talking and tweeting about. Hey,

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Speaker 1: rain drops on today's episode of Reality with the King.

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Speaker 1: Can y'all just hear the excitement in my voice? That's

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Speaker 1: because I am doing this episode with my GIRLA honey.

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Speaker 1: I love her so much. She also has an amazing

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Speaker 1: podcast called This Sarah Fraser Show.

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Speaker 2: So why not get into it with my girl? Sarah

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Speaker 2: Frasier Carlos, I love you.

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Speaker 3: Oh my god.

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Speaker 4: If we could only hit record on all the conversations

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Speaker 4: that are not on the record, Honey, I.

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Speaker 2: Do not need to get into any more trouble. I listen.

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Speaker 1: I feel like we talked about this earlier too, Sarah.

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Speaker 1: I sometimes forget that I have listeners, right because I

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Speaker 1: just talk, I give my opinion and the next thing

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Speaker 1: I know, I get a phone call or email or

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Speaker 1: DM and I'm like, what are you talking about that?

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Speaker 2: I'm like, I didn't say it like that.

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Speaker 1: But Sarah, before we get into this recent episode of

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Speaker 1: The Valley, have you ever had a run in with

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Speaker 1: a talent on any show? Because your podcast you cover

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Speaker 1: a multitude of shows. Yes, But have you ever said

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Speaker 1: something that someone confronted you about and you're like, I

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Speaker 1: said that and you like forgot about it?

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Speaker 4: Yes, our friend Ashley Darby from Real Housewaves to Potomac, oh,

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Speaker 4: live on the stage at Monique Samuel's live podcast show

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Speaker 4: at City Winery in DC, like four years ago. Oh,

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Speaker 4: I was confronted. Yes, like you were saying you were happened.

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Speaker 4: You were saying you know how to navigate, honey. I

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Speaker 4: was a ball of sweat. I didn't know what to say.

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Speaker 4: She was very upset because I had had Candace on

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Speaker 4: my podcast and this is remember when they were really feuding,

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Speaker 4: and remember when Candace sent out those tweets. I think

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Speaker 4: Ashley was like giving birth the day she gave birth,

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Speaker 4: and it was something like she's a concubine and nothing

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Speaker 4: but a wench and like all these things. Remember, this

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Speaker 4: is like going back, I remember all of that. Yes,

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Speaker 4: I had Candace on, we read the tweets, we talked

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Speaker 4: about it, and I don't know, I think I kind

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Speaker 4: of laughed at some of them, like I thought they

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Speaker 4: were comedic. And Ashley was not happy. She did not

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Speaker 4: like the way that the interview was handled. She felt

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Speaker 4: like we kind of made fun of her through on

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Speaker 4: the Boss when she had been on My show, done

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Speaker 4: my show, she and Michael they did one of my

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Speaker 4: first live podcast episodes ever at DC Improv. So she

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Speaker 4: was very upset with the way that it was handled. Yeah,

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Speaker 4: she that was so. I hadn't that was the first

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Speaker 4: time I've ever been confronted by talent, and so I

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Speaker 4: just said to her. I was like, I get it

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Speaker 4: fair enough. I mean, I I but I'm with you.

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Speaker 4: I couldn't remember what the hell we said, Like she

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Speaker 3: I'm gonna thinking of myself, what what did we laugh at?

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Speaker 3: I don't remember a damn you know what I'm saying.

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Speaker 4: I don't remember yesterday and then these everybody remembers.

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Speaker 3: She brought out her phone. She brought it up to

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Speaker 3: the twenty minute mark.

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Speaker 2: She was I know she Sarah, no way, Sarah.

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Speaker 3: I'm kidding. She didn't Oh, my girl.

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Speaker 4: Yeah. Now she didn't I get it, but we're really cool.

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Speaker 4: Since then, she's done my show again.

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Speaker 3: But that was the That was when I was like,

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Speaker 3: oh damn, like they listen. Yeah, she wasn't happy.

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Speaker 2: Listen. I hope that nobody from The Valley is.

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Speaker 1: Going to confront us about this most recent episode. I

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Speaker 1: am now a new fan of this show. It's something

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Speaker 1: that my brain drops. Sarah has said, like, Carlos, you

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Speaker 1: gotta watch The Valley, you gotta talk about it. It's

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Speaker 1: the best Sean Bravo. I'm like, no, to me, that's

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Speaker 1: married to medicine. That's my favorite Sean Bravo. But The

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Speaker 1: Valley is really good. I'm gonna tell you why. It's

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Speaker 1: so real and raw and gritty. It's not about like

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Speaker 1: this affluent world. It's not about the diamonds and you

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Speaker 1: I love about this show, Sarah, is it's real life

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Speaker 1: people who are in their thirties somewhere in their forties,

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Speaker 1: and they have grown up in Los Angeles, being on

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Speaker 1: the suburban area of Los Angeles, which is called the Valley.

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Speaker 1: It's like Sherman Oaks and Studio City, all those things,

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Speaker 1: and I'm so happy that we get to see real

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Speaker 2: I'm in love of the Valley. It's so good.

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Speaker 1: We're talking about this most recent episode, season two, so

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Speaker 1: let's just get right into it because this cast is on.

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Speaker 2: Fire and I need the breakdown.

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Speaker 1: Of Sarah Fresh to explain to me what is going Ah, So.

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Speaker 3: You know what I like that?

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Speaker 4: You said you know what else I like about this

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Speaker 4: Valley show? And I'm with you. It took people kept

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Speaker 4: saying that to me. Watch it season one, I popped in,

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Speaker 4: I popped out. This season is amazing, like okay, but

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Speaker 4: the episode of confronting Jack's like the cocaine going to

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Speaker 4: rehab episode was un believable at that moment, that fight

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Speaker 4: He's the only one that's a little overproduced, I think

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Speaker 2: By his own design.

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Speaker 4: Yes, I mean, look, last night's episode was great. They

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Speaker 4: were on their Santa Barbara wine trip. You know, Jax

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Speaker 4: but it's really not. It's like this wellness center, right,

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Speaker 4: But then he's come out and basically admitted that he

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Speaker 4: of course Jax is going to insert himself on this

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Speaker 4: in California. In California, it's like illegal to take away

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Speaker 1: So wait, it's a legal situation. So if you take

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Speaker 1: if you enter rehab in the state of California, legally

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Speaker 1: they're not allowed to take away your phone.

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Speaker 4: Well, you're allowed to have certain like access to X

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Speaker 4: like what you've been? You're You've made me an emotional wreck.

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Speaker 4: Now you're supposed to be away. I'm supposed to have

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Speaker 4: and now you're blowing up the phone NonStop. And of

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Speaker 4: course Jesse is the one that let him know that

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Speaker 4: they were going on this Santa Barbara trip, so Jacks

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Speaker 1: No And it was so disturbing, honestly, like to have

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Speaker 1: And it's one of those things where it's like when

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Speaker 1: Because I feel like Jack's who I have so much

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Speaker 1: so much grace for his bravery and his courage to

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Speaker 1: it's all about taking accountability. And I'm not saying Brittany

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Speaker 1: I am saying is she is not.

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Speaker 2: To blame for the drug addiction.

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Speaker 1: And to call the wellness center prison is like, no, shade, dude,

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Speaker 2: No one forced you to deal it.

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Speaker 1: From my understanding watching the show, so to blame her

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Speaker 3: I'm with you.

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Speaker 4: I think that's such a great point, right, I mean,

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Speaker 4: that is the whole journey of sobriety, especially if you're

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Speaker 4: in a twelve step program, is it's all about your

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Speaker 4: own accountability. You know, you're the one in charge of

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Speaker 4: a week, but there doesn't seem to be any accountability whatsoever.

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Speaker 2: No, it doesn't and and listen.

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Speaker 1: I think the thing with Jesse, who, by the way,

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Speaker 1: I had my podcast last week.

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Speaker 4: Oh oh, oh my god, Okay tell me everything. Well,

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Speaker 4: I mean I can go listen, but amazing I love him.

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Speaker 2: I mean, I mean rain drops.

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Speaker 1: If you haven't listened to my exclusive interview with Jesse

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Speaker 1: Lally from The Valley, it's in last week's episode last Thursday,

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Speaker 1: YouTube channel. He took so much accountability for what is honey, Honey,

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Speaker 1: the comments were so positive about like, while he's grown up,

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Speaker 1: we see him changing. So I'm not gonna spoil it

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Speaker 1: for you, but in this episode, when it came to

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Speaker 1: I feel like and I would love to get your

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Speaker 1: thoughts on this, Sarah. Brotherhood is very different than sisterhood, obviously, right,

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Speaker 1: so when guys converse, unfortunately, there is oftentimes a sensitivity

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Speaker 1: chip that is missing, and I think Jesse just did

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Speaker 1: not have the wherewithal to understand that when you're telling

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Speaker 1: somebody in rehab about a trip, immediately fomo fear of

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Speaker 1: that person because in jackson defense, he's isolated, he's by himself,

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Speaker 1: and he has to do seven hours of therapy.

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Speaker 2: So to note that your friends, your.

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Speaker 1: Castmate, and your baby mama, your wife Brittany is having

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Speaker 1: enjoy herself as Santa Barbara, but also she now has

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Speaker 1: to feel guilty for enjoying her life. Yeah.

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Speaker 3: No, I think you absolutely nailed it.

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Speaker 4: Jesse's all about that bro chat that they all have

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Speaker 4: going on that he thinks is so secretive, which is not.

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Speaker 3: Uh yeah, I mean And also, okay, I have to

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Speaker 3: listen to your interview because Jesse just seems really messy.

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Speaker 2: He does. He just he's a messy. He's messy boots, but.

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Speaker 3: No messy boots.

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Speaker 4: I think messy boots is such a great I'm like, see,

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Speaker 4: I don't even give him the grace that he like

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Speaker 2: Yeah.

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Speaker 3: Yes, that's it.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, absolutely, which in a way, I was kind of

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Speaker 3: What do we are? Nine years old?

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Speaker 1: Were you?

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Speaker 4: Like?

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Speaker 3: Are you really doing this?

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Speaker 4: They're all drusged up to go to a dirt racetrack

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Speaker 2: Yeah, like, what is this Chucky Cheese. Where it took

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Speaker 3: Are burnt, I would have been so pissed. Now I'm sorry, Like.

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Speaker 4: When you have a kid and you're going there, fine,

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Speaker 1: I'm like, oh no, but what did you think about

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Speaker 1: I was sort of like, I'll tell you my opinion,

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Speaker 1: I was just like, guys, it's easy to say how

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Speaker 2: And to me, there just isn't.

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Speaker 1: A right or wrong way of handling your emotions. Yes,

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Speaker 1: it's wrong to not take accountability, but I do think

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Speaker 1: let's see what he has to say. But what did

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Speaker 4: I am a sucker for any apology video, any sort

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Speaker 4: And I know a lot of times audiences, viewers do

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Speaker 3: But I agree with you, and I think with.

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Speaker 4: Jax right, there's there's a reason it's gotten to this

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Speaker 3: You know, he admits he's like a control freak.

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Speaker 4: He needs all this reassurance from Britney all the time,

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Speaker 4: I agree with you. I found that moment to be

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Speaker 3: No, but I thought for him it was. I thought

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Speaker 1: The show can't continue without Jax? Because it's one of

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I was gonna say, where did he I know,

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Speaker 4: I don't remember where the seating chart was, but yes,

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Speaker 3: What do we think that means?

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Speaker 1: I know, I got so many mess Look look at

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Speaker 4: I'm obsessed with Michelle, like all the people she's had

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Speaker 1: That's because you watched Sister Wise. Babe's so true.

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Speaker 4: Like I love a woman that's out there having like

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Speaker 3: Okay, yes, you're right.

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Speaker 4: Sorry, what's from I'm into a Polly Family baby.

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Speaker 2: Not the poll in the valley? Is that a shell

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Speaker 2: the Valley poly addition, I was.

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Speaker 3: Gonna say, let's produce it. I'm ready. I want to

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Speaker 2: He was about to say, you were going to audition

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Speaker 3: I would How great would it be to have multiple husbands?

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Speaker 3: Are you kidding? I love these shows, the bedrooms every night, Honey,

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Speaker 4: We need a gay version, the straight version, the lesbian version.

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Speaker 1: Yes, I'm here for all of the versions, hoodies. So

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Speaker 1: we realized that Michelle Listen. I like Michelle. I will

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Speaker 1: I thought to myself, I think Michelle's bringing up this season.

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Speaker 2: I mean she's big. Listen. She admitted to cheating on Jesse.

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Speaker 1: Jesse last week revealed this rumor that she slept with

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Speaker 2: He said, in all fairness, I don't want to talk

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Speaker 1: Like, uh, okay, So I think he understood that, you know,

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Speaker 4: Oh, that's so interesting about Michelle.

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Speaker 3: You still get me because I'm with you. I think

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Speaker 4: And you know, there's so many rumors of all the

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Speaker 4: allegedly didn't. She admit to too having an affair with Quentin Tarantino.

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Speaker 4: I don't think he was really an affair. I think

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Speaker 3: I'm gonna have to find it.

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Speaker 2: Funtion, Now, this is no We love breaking news.

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Speaker 4: Okay, I swear I just read a gossip story Michelle

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Speaker 3: Yes, okay, wait.

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Speaker 2: Hold on, give us a scoop, girl.

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Speaker 4: Michelle reveals the director she was with at Chateau Marmont. Yes,

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Speaker 4: the chateau. The director was Quentin Tarantino, Michelle confessed on

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Speaker 3: She just emailed him the other week.

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Speaker 4: In case you need a refresher, Jesse Lanley mentioned that

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00:24:45,560 --> 00:24:48,600
Speaker 4: Michelle had been spending time with a famous director on

438
00:24:48,640 --> 00:24:51,440
Speaker 4: The Valley season one, and now it's just been revealed

439
00:24:51,480 --> 00:24:53,359
Speaker 4: a couple of months ago that that famous director was

440
00:24:53,440 --> 00:24:55,280
Speaker 4: Quentin Tarantino. How can we get rid of this woman?

441
00:24:55,400 --> 00:24:58,800
Speaker 4: She's like been with Quentin Tarantino. She's haiven affairs. I

442
00:24:58,840 --> 00:25:01,080
Speaker 4: may have some other scoop about her coming out about

443
00:25:01,160 --> 00:25:03,560
Speaker 4: another affair with a guy in the Valley.

444
00:25:03,760 --> 00:25:05,000
Speaker 3: Anyway, we'll talk about it.

445
00:25:05,040 --> 00:25:08,440
Speaker 4: But I like the Jesse. I like Jesse, the Jesse

446
00:25:08,560 --> 00:25:10,200
Speaker 4: and Janet drama and.

447
00:25:11,560 --> 00:25:11,960
Speaker 3: Janet.

448
00:25:12,119 --> 00:25:15,000
Speaker 4: Janet's bringing it and then that little argument she had

449
00:25:15,000 --> 00:25:17,560
Speaker 4: with Zack, the confertation. I don't even know if there's

450
00:25:17,600 --> 00:25:19,639
Speaker 4: still going to be friends or if they can be.

451
00:25:21,119 --> 00:25:24,600
Speaker 1: I like Janet, miss Jackson of your Nasty. I love Janet,

452
00:25:24,760 --> 00:25:30,960
Speaker 1: I think listen. She is fun to watch because she

453
00:25:31,119 --> 00:25:33,760
Speaker 1: has like this deadpand sort of like response to shit,

454
00:25:34,400 --> 00:25:39,560
Speaker 1: especially right Sarah in her interviews. But and I love Zach.

455
00:25:39,680 --> 00:25:42,560
Speaker 1: I love his eyes, I love his expression, I love

456
00:25:42,560 --> 00:25:43,040
Speaker 1: his hair.

457
00:25:43,280 --> 00:25:46,600
Speaker 2: I just think he's so funny the way he cries.

458
00:25:46,680 --> 00:25:48,840
Speaker 4: That scene where they're having like a talk and he's

459
00:25:48,960 --> 00:25:52,359
Speaker 4: just like, it's like it's like our girl Candice Dillard

460
00:25:52,359 --> 00:25:53,480
Speaker 4: Bassett all over again.

461
00:25:53,600 --> 00:25:54,440
Speaker 2: He's just crying.

462
00:25:56,280 --> 00:25:58,600
Speaker 4: Yeah, with the triangle, it is like he is dipping

463
00:25:58,640 --> 00:26:01,359
Speaker 4: his eyes. They couldn't roll up any further in his head.

464
00:26:01,440 --> 00:26:03,960
Speaker 3: He's like, I love it. I love it.

465
00:26:04,320 --> 00:26:06,639
Speaker 4: No, Janet is low key. She's a little shady. You

466
00:26:06,640 --> 00:26:08,800
Speaker 4: don't think she's gonna be but she like confronts people.

467
00:26:08,840 --> 00:26:09,920
Speaker 4: She's got a lot to say.

468
00:26:10,400 --> 00:26:14,480
Speaker 2: No, So what do you think about Janet and Zach?

469
00:26:14,720 --> 00:26:17,920
Speaker 1: You know the attempt was to make up, because can

470
00:26:17,960 --> 00:26:21,760
Speaker 1: you explain to us the entire backstory because from my recollection,

471
00:26:22,760 --> 00:26:24,600
Speaker 1: a lot of this stem from and you tell me

472
00:26:24,600 --> 00:26:29,320
Speaker 1: if I got this wrong, But from my understanding, Janet

473
00:26:29,320 --> 00:26:34,760
Speaker 1: as Zach issue stems from I think Jenna was pregnant

474
00:26:35,240 --> 00:26:38,399
Speaker 1: and Zach tried to like have an argument with her,

475
00:26:38,800 --> 00:26:41,320
Speaker 1: and somebody said, like, don't argue with her, she could

476
00:26:41,320 --> 00:26:43,320
Speaker 1: lose her baby, and he said, like, I don't care,

477
00:26:43,800 --> 00:26:44,919
Speaker 1: something along those lines.

478
00:26:45,000 --> 00:26:45,800
Speaker 2: Is that true?

479
00:26:46,720 --> 00:26:49,200
Speaker 4: And I think it happened at the opening of Jack's

480
00:26:49,200 --> 00:26:52,240
Speaker 4: studio City Bar, and he got blackout and then started

481
00:26:52,520 --> 00:26:55,720
Speaker 4: exactly started talking all this shit about like Janet the

482
00:26:55,760 --> 00:26:59,280
Speaker 4: baby comment. He doesn't even remember what he said, and

483
00:26:59,640 --> 00:27:02,960
Speaker 4: she's taking it very personally. I think you're you're accurate.

484
00:27:03,720 --> 00:27:07,720
Speaker 4: All went down at the bar, okay. So, And it's

485
00:27:07,720 --> 00:27:11,080
Speaker 4: interesting though, because I was also watching The Valley After

486
00:27:11,200 --> 00:27:13,520
Speaker 4: show last night and Janet says, because Zach's like, oh,

487
00:27:13,560 --> 00:27:15,720
Speaker 4: we've we've had this long friendship, We've been friends for

488
00:27:15,720 --> 00:27:17,600
Speaker 4: a long time, and then Janet goes, we're not friends.

489
00:27:17,880 --> 00:27:19,359
Speaker 3: We were not like that friendly.

490
00:27:19,720 --> 00:27:24,040
Speaker 1: So I don't know, Janet is so shady.

491
00:27:24,119 --> 00:27:25,800
Speaker 2: I stand for you, sister.

492
00:27:28,480 --> 00:27:30,240
Speaker 4: I'm like, Janet, who are you gonna have as a

493
00:27:30,240 --> 00:27:32,879
Speaker 4: friend on this Damn show girl, you're coming for Jesse?

494
00:27:33,480 --> 00:27:35,240
Speaker 3: Now? You would? You don't want to be friends with Zach?

495
00:27:35,920 --> 00:27:37,399
Speaker 3: After you all left it that you guys.

496
00:27:37,280 --> 00:27:39,320
Speaker 4: Were going to try to come together, and Zach was like,

497
00:27:39,359 --> 00:27:43,320
Speaker 4: you know, friends make mistakes, friends like own it and

498
00:27:43,440 --> 00:27:46,840
Speaker 4: own up to it. Jesse seems like a messy drunk.

499
00:27:46,880 --> 00:27:50,919
Speaker 4: I want to go out with him, Jesse Jack, Jesse's probably.

500
00:27:51,520 --> 00:27:55,879
Speaker 2: No, do you think? So? What is that? Do you think? Zach?

501
00:27:56,480 --> 00:28:02,719
Speaker 1: Just like I said, I like Zack, I did feel

502
00:28:02,920 --> 00:28:06,560
Speaker 1: Tell me what you think? I felt he was being

503
00:28:06,680 --> 00:28:12,360
Speaker 1: sincere and I don't know, I felt.

504
00:28:12,119 --> 00:28:12,760
Speaker 2: Back of the kid.

505
00:28:14,680 --> 00:28:18,360
Speaker 4: Zach seems to me very sincere, but he also seems

506
00:28:18,520 --> 00:28:21,560
Speaker 4: like he seems like another one.

507
00:28:21,440 --> 00:28:23,639
Speaker 3: That might benefit from a thirty day well Inness program.

508
00:28:23,640 --> 00:28:26,440
Speaker 3: You know what I mean? You know what I'm saying.

509
00:28:26,480 --> 00:28:30,040
Speaker 4: Do you have that friend that like they're too old

510
00:28:30,160 --> 00:28:32,400
Speaker 4: to be like as drunk and messy as they are,

511
00:28:32,440 --> 00:28:34,520
Speaker 4: but they still are you know that person?

512
00:28:35,520 --> 00:28:35,720
Speaker 2: Yes?

513
00:28:35,800 --> 00:28:42,760
Speaker 4: I we have, absolutely, and like, I don't think he's

514
00:28:42,800 --> 00:28:45,680
Speaker 4: another one do I feel? Look, he was emotional last

515
00:28:45,760 --> 00:28:48,680
Speaker 4: night apologizing to her. I truly believe he really wants

516
00:28:48,720 --> 00:28:51,880
Speaker 4: to move forward. But do I think that he would

517
00:28:51,880 --> 00:28:55,200
Speaker 4: do it again. I completely do. It's like Jesse, I

518
00:28:55,200 --> 00:28:58,240
Speaker 4: think absolutely knew what he did when he texted Jackson.

519
00:28:58,480 --> 00:29:01,320
Speaker 4: He wanted Jackson know they were in Santa And I

520
00:29:01,360 --> 00:29:05,480
Speaker 4: think Zach is a messy drunk who I mean, he's

521
00:29:05,560 --> 00:29:06,680
Speaker 4: lafe at the party, like he'd be.

522
00:29:06,640 --> 00:29:07,240
Speaker 3: So much fun.

523
00:29:07,360 --> 00:29:11,120
Speaker 4: But I don't see it getting better between he and Janet.

524
00:29:11,120 --> 00:29:14,640
Speaker 4: And I'm telling you that after show he was she was,

525
00:29:15,200 --> 00:29:17,200
Speaker 4: she was not really having him, like it did not

526
00:29:17,280 --> 00:29:18,600
Speaker 4: seem like things were going better.

527
00:29:19,080 --> 00:29:20,640
Speaker 2: So done with him.

528
00:29:23,040 --> 00:29:27,200
Speaker 3: I kind of got that vibe from the after show. Yeah,

529
00:29:27,880 --> 00:29:28,320
Speaker 3: I got that.

530
00:29:30,040 --> 00:29:44,320
Speaker 1: Child. We are just getting started. This is reality with

531
00:29:44,360 --> 00:29:47,760
Speaker 1: the King and I'm Carlos King. Let's get back into

532
00:29:47,880 --> 00:29:48,360
Speaker 1: the show.

533
00:29:50,040 --> 00:29:53,760
Speaker 2: Sorry, Zach, Honey, I try, girl. I don't know.

534
00:29:53,920 --> 00:29:56,360
Speaker 1: I mean, maybe there's more to it than we know,

535
00:29:56,680 --> 00:30:02,360
Speaker 1: but Jannet ain't having it baby, And possibly Zach, you

536
00:30:02,440 --> 00:30:04,120
Speaker 1: did more than what the audience.

537
00:30:04,240 --> 00:30:04,640
Speaker 2: I eat.

538
00:30:04,840 --> 00:30:09,200
Speaker 1: Sarah, and I saw that warrants her to really just

539
00:30:09,280 --> 00:30:13,040
Speaker 1: put the final down the coffin of the friendship. Now,

540
00:30:14,040 --> 00:30:17,800
Speaker 1: one of the scenes in this episode that was heartfelt

541
00:30:18,120 --> 00:30:20,480
Speaker 1: was Jesse and Michelle's conversation.

542
00:30:22,880 --> 00:30:25,160
Speaker 4: I know that they're going to try to like be

543
00:30:25,280 --> 00:30:29,400
Speaker 4: amicable and like, you know, they're apologizing.

544
00:30:29,560 --> 00:30:31,960
Speaker 3: Yeah, I did think that was good.

545
00:30:32,320 --> 00:30:35,720
Speaker 1: I thought it was so good because listen, listen, I

546
00:30:35,920 --> 00:30:41,400
Speaker 1: really Okay, I'm gonna say this. Jackson Brittany arguably are

547
00:30:41,440 --> 00:30:42,520
Speaker 1: the face of the valley.

548
00:30:42,640 --> 00:30:45,160
Speaker 2: It is what it is, right, totally, And I.

549
00:30:45,160 --> 00:30:49,280
Speaker 3: Think Kristin Doty right, because yeah I think so too.

550
00:30:49,560 --> 00:30:51,400
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, Kristin for sure.

551
00:30:51,760 --> 00:30:56,040
Speaker 1: So when I was talking about Jackson Brittany, you know,

552
00:30:56,520 --> 00:30:59,360
Speaker 1: as the couple, they are the premier couple, right.

553
00:31:00,200 --> 00:31:04,360
Speaker 2: But I will say, as a viewer, there.

554
00:31:04,280 --> 00:31:07,640
Speaker 1: Is something I can't take my eyes off of when

555
00:31:07,680 --> 00:31:13,040
Speaker 1: I watch Jesse and Michelle because I agree, right, I

556
00:31:13,080 --> 00:31:17,880
Speaker 1: feel it gives me old school soap opera where you

557
00:31:18,040 --> 00:31:24,160
Speaker 1: have these two wounded individuals who both made mistakes in

558
00:31:24,240 --> 00:31:31,200
Speaker 1: their marriage, and I feel like, deep, deep, deep down inside,

559
00:31:31,480 --> 00:31:32,560
Speaker 1: there's some love there.

560
00:31:33,040 --> 00:31:36,560
Speaker 2: But I think the hurt, the pain, and the.

561
00:31:36,560 --> 00:31:43,480
Speaker 1: Ego from both sides is preventing them from getting to

562
00:31:43,560 --> 00:31:48,440
Speaker 1: a place, even if it's not a reconciliation. Although this

563
00:31:48,640 --> 00:31:52,719
Speaker 1: may be you know, just me, I feel like if

564
00:31:52,760 --> 00:31:55,520
Speaker 1: they ever sat down and had a conversation and just

565
00:31:55,640 --> 00:31:59,640
Speaker 1: like brought everything to the forefront and a lot of

566
00:31:59,640 --> 00:32:03,760
Speaker 1: each other to be heard and not not listen to respond,

567
00:32:04,000 --> 00:32:05,600
Speaker 1: but listen to understand.

568
00:32:06,640 --> 00:32:09,120
Speaker 2: I see a world where they could get back together.

569
00:32:09,840 --> 00:32:14,600
Speaker 3: Oh so far, that is so.

570
00:32:15,400 --> 00:32:17,320
Speaker 2: I see love that hart to heart.

571
00:32:17,440 --> 00:32:21,400
Speaker 1: I'm like, no one talks like this with this emotion

572
00:32:22,400 --> 00:32:27,160
Speaker 1: if there wasn't some sense of like love there, am

573
00:32:27,200 --> 00:32:29,040
Speaker 1: I am, I am I thing.

574
00:32:29,680 --> 00:32:32,440
Speaker 4: I think that's an accurate description of those two because

575
00:32:32,480 --> 00:32:35,560
Speaker 4: even it's so that is so fascinating. You're right to

576
00:32:35,600 --> 00:32:38,480
Speaker 4: watch them fight because even that episode, like not last

577
00:32:38,520 --> 00:32:41,160
Speaker 4: night's episode, but the one before last week, it was

578
00:32:41,200 --> 00:32:44,200
Speaker 4: also just interesting when she was so hurt when he like,

579
00:32:44,960 --> 00:32:46,120
Speaker 4: you know, when she was like.

580
00:32:46,120 --> 00:32:48,080
Speaker 3: You know, you've called me a bad mother and like

581
00:32:48,440 --> 00:32:49,080
Speaker 3: you you know.

582
00:32:49,280 --> 00:32:51,280
Speaker 4: And he's like, I have never said that about you,

583
00:32:51,360 --> 00:32:54,280
Speaker 4: like I've never There is something very deep about the

584
00:32:54,280 --> 00:32:57,040
Speaker 4: two of them. And although they fight they hate each other,

585
00:32:57,040 --> 00:32:59,600
Speaker 4: they sort of have you know, they're like crying and emotional.

586
00:33:00,480 --> 00:33:03,480
Speaker 4: It does seem it does, isn't it odd? It almost

587
00:33:03,480 --> 00:33:05,640
Speaker 4: seems less toxic than Brittany and Jackson.

588
00:33:06,480 --> 00:33:08,640
Speaker 3: You know what I mean, It seems less.

589
00:33:09,000 --> 00:33:13,800
Speaker 4: It does seem more like they're like they almost could reconcile.

590
00:33:14,120 --> 00:33:16,000
Speaker 4: Oh my god, do we feel like they could reconcile

591
00:33:16,040 --> 00:33:18,840
Speaker 4: too if they were on that show. If they didn't,

592
00:33:18,880 --> 00:33:20,960
Speaker 4: if they didn't do reality TV, they actually be together.

593
00:33:21,840 --> 00:33:27,080
Speaker 1: I think, listen, the beauty of reality television is it

594
00:33:27,200 --> 00:33:32,560
Speaker 1: oftentimes puts you in a position to have tough conversations

595
00:33:32,600 --> 00:33:36,120
Speaker 1: because you guys are filming and you may avoid each

596
00:33:36,160 --> 00:33:39,120
Speaker 1: other in real life, but we're going to show together.

597
00:33:39,560 --> 00:33:42,000
Speaker 1: You're like, well, we got to talk about it because

598
00:33:42,160 --> 00:33:45,280
Speaker 1: it's happening and we're in the same room. And I

599
00:33:45,320 --> 00:33:48,880
Speaker 1: think that's the reason why Van der Pum Rules have

600
00:33:48,960 --> 00:33:53,560
Speaker 1: to be rebooted, because to watch an entire season not

601
00:33:53,680 --> 00:34:02,040
Speaker 1: seeing Arianna and Tom talk about their relationship, Yep, not

602
00:34:02,160 --> 00:34:05,040
Speaker 1: working out, but you guys are living together, but we

603
00:34:05,080 --> 00:34:08,719
Speaker 1: as the audience don't see a conversation. I think that

604
00:34:08,880 --> 00:34:11,439
Speaker 1: was a huge mistake that they played on their part,

605
00:34:11,600 --> 00:34:15,759
Speaker 1: on their part, right, yeah, because the audience needs that.

606
00:34:15,800 --> 00:34:19,000
Speaker 1: And I think when it comes to Michelle and Jesse,

607
00:34:19,440 --> 00:34:25,520
Speaker 1: I think I think they're dynamic being on the show together,

608
00:34:26,239 --> 00:34:30,799
Speaker 1: filming together, and then sharing a child. I think you're

609
00:34:30,920 --> 00:34:34,760
Speaker 1: sort of like in this position to have tough conversations

610
00:34:34,800 --> 00:34:35,880
Speaker 1: to get to a resolution.

611
00:34:36,920 --> 00:34:39,279
Speaker 2: But I also know that.

612
00:34:39,239 --> 00:34:44,680
Speaker 1: Sometimes the ego can get the best of you. Because listen,

613
00:34:44,760 --> 00:34:47,240
Speaker 1: if I'm Michelle, would.

614
00:34:47,000 --> 00:34:49,959
Speaker 2: I be seen as a dumb woman.

615
00:34:49,840 --> 00:34:53,120
Speaker 1: Who forgave this man for spreading these rumors about me?

616
00:34:53,280 --> 00:34:55,200
Speaker 2: Do you know what I mean? Like, yeah, you.

617
00:34:55,239 --> 00:34:58,640
Speaker 4: Gotta be tough, tough, but yet I feel like, look,

618
00:34:58,680 --> 00:35:04,399
Speaker 4: if you've been a sleep with Quentin Tarantino, you're kind

619
00:35:04,400 --> 00:35:07,400
Speaker 4: of good ego, you know what I mean? Can you

620
00:35:07,440 --> 00:35:09,680
Speaker 4: imagine he's a nightmare? I mean the ship that must

621
00:35:09,719 --> 00:35:11,320
Speaker 4: come out of his mouth while.

622
00:35:11,120 --> 00:35:11,920
Speaker 3: He's boning you.

623
00:35:12,040 --> 00:35:13,440
Speaker 4: I mean, give me a break, Like you know what

624
00:35:13,480 --> 00:35:15,600
Speaker 4: I mean, He's toking a murder scenes everything else.

625
00:35:15,640 --> 00:35:17,799
Speaker 3: You gotta have a tough skin. She was hooking up

626
00:35:17,800 --> 00:35:18,920
Speaker 3: with him and they're still friends.

627
00:35:20,680 --> 00:35:23,799
Speaker 2: I did you go? Right? Right?

628
00:35:24,400 --> 00:35:26,120
Speaker 4: I don't think I don't think she gives one rip

629
00:35:26,160 --> 00:35:29,960
Speaker 4: what people think. I don't think she gives one. That

630
00:35:30,080 --> 00:35:32,520
Speaker 4: girl's at the Chateau Marmande. She got a hook up

631
00:35:32,560 --> 00:35:34,000
Speaker 4: with anybody and everybody.

632
00:35:34,040 --> 00:35:37,279
Speaker 3: She doesn't care. Kyle and Morgan walk in. Honey, let's

633
00:35:37,280 --> 00:35:37,920
Speaker 3: do a threesome.

634
00:35:38,120 --> 00:35:46,959
Speaker 1: Oh my god, sister, wise, sister, sister, Yes.

635
00:35:46,880 --> 00:35:51,040
Speaker 3: Your sister, sister. Now, let me ask you this.

636
00:35:51,920 --> 00:35:55,759
Speaker 4: You are the producing king, you know you are Carlos King.

637
00:35:56,520 --> 00:35:58,880
Speaker 3: Do we think do we think that the.

638
00:35:58,840 --> 00:36:02,480
Speaker 4: Valley do we think that Jack's you know who, I mean,

639
00:36:02,840 --> 00:36:04,640
Speaker 4: just the absolute ring master?

640
00:36:05,840 --> 00:36:07,399
Speaker 3: Because you just brought up a great point.

641
00:36:07,640 --> 00:36:12,759
Speaker 4: Vpr ended because really everybody took a side. Nobody was

642
00:36:12,760 --> 00:36:14,960
Speaker 4: willing to talk, people were not willing to come. The

643
00:36:14,960 --> 00:36:17,239
Speaker 4: only one that I think tried to desperately save that

644
00:36:17,280 --> 00:36:19,600
Speaker 4: show was La La, who was like trying to come

645
00:36:19,640 --> 00:36:22,000
Speaker 4: across the fence and like bring sand of ball back

646
00:36:22,000 --> 00:36:25,440
Speaker 4: into the fold and everything. Right, do we think because

647
00:36:25,480 --> 00:36:28,080
Speaker 4: you know, Jesse has moved on, has a girlfriend, I mean,

648
00:36:28,400 --> 00:36:31,000
Speaker 4: do we think there's any real deep connection or do

649
00:36:31,040 --> 00:36:33,400
Speaker 4: we think Jack's got together and said to them, Look,

650
00:36:33,400 --> 00:36:35,759
Speaker 4: I'm going to give you all the playbook and y'all

651
00:36:35,800 --> 00:36:37,920
Speaker 4: are going to play by the royal these damn rules

652
00:36:38,080 --> 00:36:42,240
Speaker 4: you want. And the moment you silo yourself and you refilmed,

653
00:36:42,360 --> 00:36:43,800
Speaker 4: you refuse to film with somebody.

654
00:36:43,800 --> 00:36:44,520
Speaker 3: I mean, look at New.

655
00:36:44,480 --> 00:36:47,960
Speaker 4: Jersey, right, I mean, are we here because of Melissa

656
00:36:48,120 --> 00:36:48,560
Speaker 4: and Trey?

657
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Speaker 3: I mean, I just is it really is it?

658
00:36:52,800 --> 00:36:56,680
Speaker 4: Since we've seen so many insincere relationships? I mean, is

659
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Speaker 4: this sort of deepness with Michelle and Jesse in the

660
00:37:00,880 --> 00:37:02,719
Speaker 4: back and forth. Do we think it's real or do

661
00:37:02,760 --> 00:37:05,040
Speaker 4: we think they are? Jesse is just as smart as

662
00:37:05,120 --> 00:37:10,680
Speaker 4: Jackson is, Like, girl, I'm on back here. Put it

663
00:37:10,760 --> 00:37:12,680
Speaker 4: on the night you did, Quentin Tarantina.

664
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Speaker 3: You gotta put on this.

665
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Speaker 1: Good question. I think all of the above. I think, listen,

666
00:37:24,520 --> 00:37:28,759
Speaker 1: I'm gonna tell you something. When you are a reality

667
00:37:28,800 --> 00:37:34,680
Speaker 1: star and you get a taste of the money and

668
00:37:34,719 --> 00:37:42,319
Speaker 1: the fame and the enjoyment of being relevant, right, and

669
00:37:42,400 --> 00:37:48,600
Speaker 1: you have that for years and like that is taken

670
00:37:48,640 --> 00:37:53,040
Speaker 1: away from you, a lot of humbling things start to

671
00:37:53,080 --> 00:37:56,840
Speaker 1: happen where you think about your time on the show

672
00:37:57,040 --> 00:37:59,319
Speaker 1: and should have, would have, could have and damn if

673
00:37:59,320 --> 00:38:01,480
Speaker 1: I just if I if I would have known.

674
00:38:02,960 --> 00:38:05,320
Speaker 2: Then what I know now, It'll been a different story.

675
00:38:06,000 --> 00:38:11,560
Speaker 1: I think bpr being ripped away from Jack's humbled him.

676
00:38:12,239 --> 00:38:15,920
Speaker 1: And I think everybody around him saw what that looked

677
00:38:15,960 --> 00:38:20,200
Speaker 1: like and felt like and cannot imagine that. I do

678
00:38:20,280 --> 00:38:22,680
Speaker 1: believe what Jesse and Michelle are going through is one

679
00:38:22,719 --> 00:38:28,040
Speaker 1: hundred percent real. However, I also think Jacks understands you

680
00:38:28,080 --> 00:38:30,000
Speaker 1: don't get more than three chances.

681
00:38:30,480 --> 00:38:31,959
Speaker 2: I'm sorry you don't get more than two chances.

682
00:38:32,000 --> 00:38:35,320
Speaker 1: I'm sorry you don't get more than two chances of

683
00:38:35,719 --> 00:38:37,240
Speaker 1: getting on a reality show.

684
00:38:37,320 --> 00:38:38,200
Speaker 2: You just don't.

685
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Speaker 1: And I think Jax understands that this show has to

686
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Speaker 1: be great. And I definitely think he had a pep

687
00:38:45,160 --> 00:38:47,520
Speaker 1: talk to Jesse and to the boys, and the boys chat,

688
00:38:48,200 --> 00:38:50,520
Speaker 1: and I think they're all on the same pace that

689
00:38:50,560 --> 00:38:52,480
Speaker 1: this show has to work. But the only way this

690
00:38:52,520 --> 00:38:54,640
Speaker 1: show's going to work is that we all be real

691
00:38:55,000 --> 00:38:58,720
Speaker 1: and we all don't have rules of engagement or disengagement.

692
00:38:58,800 --> 00:39:03,560
Speaker 1: Hey mayor the Marks, We're not disengaging. We're going to engage, right.

693
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Speaker 1: And I think when you look at Jesse, I think

694
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Speaker 1: Jesse is one of the smartest strategic male reality starts

695
00:39:14,760 --> 00:39:19,280
Speaker 1: on television. He's handsome to look at, he's super charming,

696
00:39:20,320 --> 00:39:23,920
Speaker 1: he's he's a joy. And when I find so interesting

697
00:39:23,960 --> 00:39:29,800
Speaker 1: about him is the audience said on my YouTube channel

698
00:39:29,880 --> 00:39:33,319
Speaker 1: that I kind of like him more than Michelle. And

699
00:39:33,360 --> 00:39:37,680
Speaker 1: that's rare because in any situation, the audience side with

700
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Speaker 1: the women. And to know that Jesse has this fan base,

701
00:39:44,239 --> 00:39:46,719
Speaker 1: I'm I'm I love I love the boy too.

702
00:39:46,920 --> 00:39:48,160
Speaker 2: I love the guy. He's great.

703
00:39:48,560 --> 00:39:52,040
Speaker 4: Really, that's so fascinating about your comments because I also

704
00:39:52,160 --> 00:39:54,080
Speaker 4: feel like what I like about Jesse's I think he's

705
00:39:54,080 --> 00:39:57,319
Speaker 4: not afraid to be a villain either. And you know,

706
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Speaker 4: I think Sandoval, Tom Sandoval had such a hard time

707
00:40:00,560 --> 00:40:04,279
Speaker 4: embracing the villain, you know, role I think he still

708
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Speaker 4: does sometimes you just get like Jax, I don't think

709
00:40:07,160 --> 00:40:10,160
Speaker 4: cares Jax is Like, to make a good show, you

710
00:40:10,280 --> 00:40:12,280
Speaker 4: have to have a villain. You have to have somebody

711
00:40:12,560 --> 00:40:16,319
Speaker 4: that people hate on that sometimes has this redemption arc.

712
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Speaker 3: I mean, not even to mention. I mean it's a

713
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Speaker 3: whole other show that we'll have to do.

714
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Speaker 4: But like, how is how is Jax Taylor going to

715
00:40:22,040 --> 00:40:25,560
Speaker 4: continue to own a bar with being a recovering coke

716
00:40:25,600 --> 00:40:29,160
Speaker 4: addict and alcohol being the gateway to starting to do coke.

717
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Speaker 3: I don't even know how you're going to do that,

718
00:40:30,600 --> 00:40:31,560
Speaker 3: but anyway.

719
00:40:31,640 --> 00:40:33,919
Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, So it's so funny that people like Jesse

720
00:40:34,000 --> 00:40:36,839
Speaker 4: that much because I'm like, I also see him having

721
00:40:36,880 --> 00:40:40,400
Speaker 4: some seasons of just being the villain even more so.

722
00:40:40,640 --> 00:40:42,600
Speaker 3: But your audience really likes.

723
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Speaker 1: Him, honey, Go on my YouTube channel after this, watch

724
00:40:46,000 --> 00:40:46,600
Speaker 1: an interview.

725
00:40:47,200 --> 00:40:48,320
Speaker 2: Look at the comments.

726
00:40:48,680 --> 00:40:52,600
Speaker 1: They're in love with Jesse and I and listen is

727
00:40:52,640 --> 00:40:57,120
Speaker 1: one thing to hear our conversation on the audio side

728
00:40:57,120 --> 00:41:00,120
Speaker 1: of the podcast, but to watch it you get to

729
00:41:00,120 --> 00:41:06,239
Speaker 1: see his He looked so sincere, and the way he

730
00:41:06,320 --> 00:41:11,640
Speaker 1: did not bash Michelle to me showed me growth and

731
00:41:11,680 --> 00:41:13,759
Speaker 1: the fact that he's trying to figure things out with her.

732
00:41:13,840 --> 00:41:17,040
Speaker 1: But I think to your point, the Valley's success and

733
00:41:17,400 --> 00:41:20,640
Speaker 1: this is this is big brother Carlos King give you

734
00:41:20,680 --> 00:41:25,600
Speaker 1: guys some advice. In order for the Valley to remain successful,

735
00:41:26,000 --> 00:41:29,960
Speaker 1: you guys have to continue being real, being authentic, nobody.

736
00:41:30,200 --> 00:41:32,360
Speaker 1: We don't give two shits about the fancy cars and

737
00:41:32,480 --> 00:41:33,280
Speaker 1: fancy clothes.

738
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Speaker 2: I don't give a shit about that on the show.

739
00:41:35,760 --> 00:41:38,000
Speaker 4: I think people are over it. Yeah, especially yeah. I

740
00:41:38,000 --> 00:41:39,680
Speaker 4: don't think they care on this show at all.

741
00:41:39,840 --> 00:41:41,439
Speaker 2: Yeah yeah yeah, yeah yeah yeah.

742
00:41:41,440 --> 00:41:44,160
Speaker 1: So I think I think they're all smart, and I

743
00:41:44,280 --> 00:41:47,839
Speaker 1: think I think it's because they saw, like we don't

744
00:41:47,880 --> 00:41:52,120
Speaker 1: want what happened to Vandupron rules to happen to us.

745
00:41:52,400 --> 00:41:54,040
Speaker 1: Because I promise you when I said this.

746
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Speaker 4: I.

747
00:41:55,880 --> 00:41:59,239
Speaker 1: Strongly believe Arianna is gonna wake up one day and

748
00:41:59,360 --> 00:42:03,239
Speaker 1: regret not making it work the best way she could

749
00:42:03,280 --> 00:42:04,600
Speaker 1: had her last season of Band.

750
00:42:04,440 --> 00:42:05,040
Speaker 2: The Pump Rolls.

751
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Speaker 4: I love that assessment. I have always said that I've

752
00:42:10,600 --> 00:42:16,640
Speaker 4: always right always, while then I'm sure for Arianna that

753
00:42:16,760 --> 00:42:20,960
Speaker 4: was the most very hurtful. It was embarrassing, but you

754
00:42:21,120 --> 00:42:25,000
Speaker 4: like one, and you were winning while this whole like

755
00:42:25,040 --> 00:42:28,640
Speaker 4: from the moment this happened, and I think it was

756
00:42:28,760 --> 00:42:29,560
Speaker 4: just such a Yeah.

757
00:42:29,600 --> 00:42:30,000
Speaker 3: I agree.

758
00:42:30,040 --> 00:42:31,520
Speaker 4: I think it was such a bad way to go out,

759
00:42:31,560 --> 00:42:33,439
Speaker 4: and I think there was just so much more there

760
00:42:33,560 --> 00:42:36,040
Speaker 4: that that really gave that show the kind.

761
00:42:35,840 --> 00:42:37,800
Speaker 3: Of reboot it needed.

762
00:42:37,880 --> 00:42:39,760
Speaker 4: And I think if it was if it played out differently,

763
00:42:39,840 --> 00:42:42,120
Speaker 4: we'd still be seeing we wouldn't be going through this

764
00:42:42,160 --> 00:42:45,240
Speaker 4: whole thing where we're shooting a whole new VPR reboot

765
00:42:45,280 --> 00:42:46,840
Speaker 4: with a cast I don't know that we're going to

766
00:42:46,880 --> 00:42:47,279
Speaker 4: care about.

767
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Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, yeah. Oh one last thing, so rain drops.

768
00:42:52,440 --> 00:42:56,680
Speaker 1: Bravo announced today that did you read this.

769
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Speaker 4: An well, yeah, the Real Housewives of Island, which we'd

770
00:43:00,800 --> 00:43:03,640
Speaker 4: all been hearing. But and actually, I think the last

771
00:43:03,640 --> 00:43:06,160
Speaker 4: time you and I chatted and I was here, we were.

772
00:43:06,000 --> 00:43:07,080
Speaker 3: Like, is this real?

773
00:43:07,200 --> 00:43:07,480
Speaker 2: Yes?

774
00:43:07,840 --> 00:43:10,040
Speaker 3: Yes, now it's supposed Now it's.

775
00:43:09,840 --> 00:43:10,560
Speaker 2: Real, it's real.

776
00:43:10,600 --> 00:43:12,880
Speaker 1: So the Real housewass of Rhode Island is set against

777
00:43:12,920 --> 00:43:17,560
Speaker 1: the shores of the Ocean state pretty much, it's the

778
00:43:17,560 --> 00:43:20,840
Speaker 1: Housewives child. So that's the Rhode Island. Ladies of London

779
00:43:21,560 --> 00:43:26,280
Speaker 1: is coming back. They're doing white Swap the Real Housewives

780
00:43:26,320 --> 00:43:29,920
Speaker 1: Audish and they're doing the Valley Pursian style, which is

781
00:43:29,920 --> 00:43:33,680
Speaker 1: pretty much shots of Sunset Soft reboots Base in the

782
00:43:33,760 --> 00:43:38,799
Speaker 1: Valley with Rezia Gig and My Girl MJ leading the

783
00:43:38,880 --> 00:43:42,640
Speaker 1: pack as well. But in this announcement, they also announced

784
00:43:42,680 --> 00:43:44,400
Speaker 1: the returns of like Maritime.

785
00:43:44,080 --> 00:43:46,880
Speaker 2: Medicine, a bunch of other shows.

786
00:43:47,400 --> 00:43:52,279
Speaker 1: What was noticeably absent that my rain drops blew me

787
00:43:52,400 --> 00:43:57,520
Speaker 1: up on Twitter, they said Carlos, they did not announce

788
00:43:57,560 --> 00:44:00,319
Speaker 1: the return of Ronee And I'm like.

789
00:44:00,320 --> 00:44:01,120
Speaker 2: What are you talking about?

790
00:44:01,120 --> 00:44:06,040
Speaker 1: So I'm like refreshing the feed and I'm like, what

791
00:44:06,080 --> 00:44:07,280
Speaker 1: are y'all talking about?

792
00:44:07,440 --> 00:44:10,960
Speaker 2: As I'm like trying to like figure that out out.

793
00:44:11,040 --> 00:44:13,920
Speaker 3: Wait, do we think there would be an announcement?

794
00:44:14,600 --> 00:44:16,680
Speaker 2: Well? Do we think the thing is this?

795
00:44:17,280 --> 00:44:20,879
Speaker 1: One of the things that is interesting is when it

796
00:44:20,960 --> 00:44:25,239
Speaker 1: was revealed about the news shows and what was returning

797
00:44:25,360 --> 00:44:29,759
Speaker 1: and what shows already airing and in production. Based on

798
00:44:29,800 --> 00:44:32,000
Speaker 1: what I've read, and I'm going to put it up

799
00:44:32,000 --> 00:44:35,040
Speaker 1: for you now because we are journalists, hey, Portia, and

800
00:44:35,120 --> 00:44:39,000
Speaker 1: we want to make sure that we always report on

801
00:44:39,480 --> 00:44:45,520
Speaker 1: the news accurately. Okay, So they did announce, like I said,

802
00:44:45,560 --> 00:44:48,080
Speaker 1: the four news shows. I just read, they announced the

803
00:44:48,160 --> 00:44:51,200
Speaker 1: returns of a bunch of Beverly Hills, for example, which

804
00:44:51,320 --> 00:44:52,120
Speaker 1: I mean, honey.

805
00:44:51,920 --> 00:45:00,520
Speaker 4: Well, we really be letting the apple of.

806
00:45:00,440 --> 00:45:02,240
Speaker 3: Andy's eye all the pun intended.

807
00:45:02,600 --> 00:45:05,600
Speaker 2: Oh that was good. I like that. I like that.

808
00:45:05,719 --> 00:45:07,960
Speaker 2: I like that. So no, I don't I think this.

809
00:45:09,000 --> 00:45:13,640
Speaker 2: I am curious. Okay. So okay, I have the article

810
00:45:13,719 --> 00:45:16,000
Speaker 2: up for you, honey, I'm going to read it to you.

811
00:45:16,680 --> 00:45:20,520
Speaker 1: So, like I said, they announced all these shows blah blah.

812
00:45:20,360 --> 00:45:22,360
Speaker 2: Blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah.

813
00:45:22,360 --> 00:45:26,960
Speaker 1: So Orange County, Beverly Hills, now the pump rules.

814
00:45:28,719 --> 00:45:31,719
Speaker 2: Let me see what else? Okay?

815
00:45:32,000 --> 00:45:37,240
Speaker 1: All right, So meanwhile, the Real Housewives of Belly Hills,

816
00:45:37,320 --> 00:45:41,040
Speaker 1: the Real Housewives of Orange County, the Real Housewives of Potombac,

817
00:45:41,239 --> 00:45:45,239
Speaker 1: and the Real Housewives of Salt Lake City were all

818
00:45:45,280 --> 00:45:51,800
Speaker 1: renewed for another season. They did not mention New Jersey

819
00:45:52,280 --> 00:45:53,120
Speaker 1: or New York.

820
00:45:55,440 --> 00:45:56,120
Speaker 3: Okay, what do you?

821
00:45:56,239 --> 00:45:57,920
Speaker 4: I mean, Look, you're the insider. Do you think this

822
00:45:58,040 --> 00:46:01,440
Speaker 4: is it? Do you think we're done with with Ronie?

823
00:46:02,440 --> 00:46:04,120
Speaker 4: I mean I think it's a trochi. I think it's

824
00:46:04,120 --> 00:46:06,120
Speaker 4: so bad, like, I think we need to call it.

825
00:46:06,520 --> 00:46:10,239
Speaker 4: I think if Rhode Island can can bring anything.

826
00:46:11,200 --> 00:46:13,400
Speaker 3: It will. I don't know that we'll miss it. I

827
00:46:13,440 --> 00:46:15,479
Speaker 3: don't know. I mean, I know it's New York City.

828
00:46:15,520 --> 00:46:17,160
Speaker 3: I know New York is iconic.

829
00:46:17,760 --> 00:46:20,600
Speaker 1: I think New York should go through what Miami went

830
00:46:20,680 --> 00:46:22,799
Speaker 1: through and be off the air for a couple of

831
00:46:22,880 --> 00:46:24,439
Speaker 1: years and come back.

832
00:46:24,880 --> 00:46:30,399
Speaker 2: And I think, I do you.

833
00:46:30,280 --> 00:46:32,880
Speaker 4: Think they're really going to recast it again, even if

834
00:46:32,920 --> 00:46:34,719
Speaker 4: they give us three.

835
00:46:34,400 --> 00:46:35,680
Speaker 2: Break base Listen.

836
00:46:35,840 --> 00:46:38,719
Speaker 1: The only episode I watched last season, I watched the

837
00:46:38,800 --> 00:46:42,480
Speaker 1: premiere and I was I was like, I can't do this.

838
00:46:42,760 --> 00:46:45,319
Speaker 1: And then I watched like the finale because obviously what

839
00:46:45,400 --> 00:46:48,680
Speaker 1: Brent did to Uba, I'm like, oh my lord Jesus,

840
00:46:48,760 --> 00:46:51,480
Speaker 1: and it was so dark. I think that didn't help

841
00:46:51,520 --> 00:46:55,200
Speaker 1: the case. I think, uh, these those women aren't friends.

842
00:46:55,800 --> 00:46:58,719
Speaker 1: I don't care whose birthday parties y'all go to and

843
00:46:59,160 --> 00:47:02,400
Speaker 1: pose in front of Apple iPhone sixteen promax.

844
00:47:02,920 --> 00:47:04,560
Speaker 2: I don't believe the friendship there.

845
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Speaker 1: I'm sorry, And I think when it comes to figuring

846
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Speaker 1: it out, listen, I think Rhode Island, which is sort

847
00:47:13,200 --> 00:47:17,920
Speaker 1: of like kind of near New York City, kind of

848
00:47:18,120 --> 00:47:22,759
Speaker 1: near Jersey, and to have New York and New Jersey

849
00:47:22,840 --> 00:47:24,320
Speaker 1: not be announced as a renewal.

850
00:47:25,719 --> 00:47:27,839
Speaker 2: I think when it comes to New.

851
00:47:27,840 --> 00:47:33,160
Speaker 1: York City, they could be casting, and maybe it's contingent

852
00:47:33,280 --> 00:47:39,160
Speaker 1: upon casting, the way Dallas Housewives was, because remember Dallas

853
00:47:39,200 --> 00:47:40,680
Speaker 1: Housewise was.

854
00:47:40,640 --> 00:47:43,719
Speaker 2: In the middle of casting and they pulled the plug.

855
00:47:43,600 --> 00:47:47,359
Speaker 4: Like fuck it, like exact, yeah, I know, we've all

856
00:47:47,400 --> 00:47:48,600
Speaker 4: moved on and like we're fine.

857
00:47:48,600 --> 00:47:49,799
Speaker 2: Do you miss Dallas?

858
00:47:50,080 --> 00:47:50,160
Speaker 4: No?

859
00:47:50,680 --> 00:47:52,280
Speaker 3: Do you no?

860
00:47:52,280 --> 00:47:52,360
Speaker 2: No?

861
00:47:52,680 --> 00:47:54,640
Speaker 3: I never even think about Dallas. I mean, Salt Lake

862
00:47:55,120 --> 00:47:56,200
Speaker 3: is like came out of nowhere.

863
00:47:56,200 --> 00:47:58,440
Speaker 4: It is like now in my top three. I mean

864
00:47:58,520 --> 00:48:01,799
Speaker 4: I miss I will miss new This Roney reboot. It

865
00:48:01,920 --> 00:48:05,160
Speaker 4: was so bad, Like I had so much hope even

866
00:48:05,239 --> 00:48:07,799
Speaker 4: season one. I watched season one. I was into it.

867
00:48:07,840 --> 00:48:11,520
Speaker 3: I had hope. I thought Jenna Lyons, I love season too, Sarah.

868
00:48:11,560 --> 00:48:14,080
Speaker 4: I thought Jenna was gonna be great and okay, she

869
00:48:14,239 --> 00:48:17,640
Speaker 4: wasn't great, but I thought okay. But I mean it

870
00:48:18,000 --> 00:48:20,560
Speaker 4: jumped the shark in a way. I can't even believe

871
00:48:20,560 --> 00:48:23,000
Speaker 4: that they kept filming. I mean, Rebecca Minkoff was like

872
00:48:24,160 --> 00:48:26,520
Speaker 4: what a waste of a I don't even know how

873
00:48:26,520 --> 00:48:28,920
Speaker 4: to say it was so bad, right, I mean, have

874
00:48:28,920 --> 00:48:33,120
Speaker 4: you ever seen anything worse? It was really bad. It

875
00:48:33,160 --> 00:48:36,080
Speaker 4: was I can't even speechless. I mean, in the first

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Speaker 4: couple of episodes of season two of Ronie, when they

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Speaker 4: were sitting out at Aaron Leechi's place in the Hamptons

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Speaker 4: and they had nothing to do and they were sitting

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Speaker 4: on the ground like board eating cheese in her kitchen,

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Speaker 4: I'm like.

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Speaker 3: This is atrocious.

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Speaker 4: Compared to the days when we had Sonyaita and Remote,

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Speaker 4: they would have been drunk, stabbing each other with knives.

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Speaker 4: By this point, Lan would have found man in the woods.

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Speaker 4: She would have been shagging him. I mean, it would

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Speaker 4: have been like we would have had so much and

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Speaker 4: it was so boring.

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Speaker 3: I was like, it's over. So maybe you're right. And

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Speaker 3: I don't know.

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Speaker 4: Andy keeps kind of doing this thing where he's going

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Speaker 4: to drag things out to twenty twenty six. I mean,

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Speaker 4: could Bravocon this year be the big announcements of Roney

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Speaker 4: return and something with New Jersey. Maybe they're holding it

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Speaker 4: till then. But I just don't know who's watching that

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Speaker 4: cast for Roney season three.

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Speaker 2: I'm not watching that cast.

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Speaker 1: And and I said this too, I think as individual women,

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Speaker 1: they are beautiful, accomplished and successful, and.

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Speaker 2: That's I and I will always give them that.

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Speaker 1: I think as a collective unit, there's no chemistry there

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Speaker 1: that I enjoy watching. And that's and that's that's that's

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Speaker 1: just the way it is. There's no chemistry. That's why

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Speaker 1: the Valley is great. The Valley has great chemistry. Mareton Medicine,

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Speaker 1: Bailly Hill's Better watch out. We need chemistry.

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Speaker 4: I need I I know what are we gonna do?

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Speaker 1: I girl, because I'm telling you listen, CoP's my favorite.

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Speaker 2: Sorry, that's never gonna change.

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Speaker 1: But I the only friendship I enjoyed last season was

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Speaker 1: Eric Heundur Eats.

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Speaker 2: I could watch them all day. I love it.

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Speaker 4: I mean, do we see a see a scenario where

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Speaker 4: our girl, Teddy Mellencamp, you know, is Teddy Mellencamp coming back?

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Speaker 1: I mean, I personally would love Teddy to come back.

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Speaker 1: I think, I mean, first and foremost, I want to

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Speaker 1: make sure she takes care of herself and beats cancer.

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Speaker 1: And she's so far, so good in her and her journey.

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Speaker 2: But look, I think.

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Speaker 1: I think the message to me if I had to

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Speaker 1: like give a message in this episode based on us

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Speaker 1: recapping the Valley and talking about the non announcement of

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Speaker 1: a renewal for New York and Jersey.

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Speaker 2: And how bad the rules have to be rebooted. Fully.

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Speaker 1: My to all the casts in the world is, if

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Speaker 1: you are on an ensemble show, it works because of

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Speaker 1: the ensemble and the moment you think you're too big

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Speaker 1: to film with somebody for ego or for whatever is

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Speaker 1: going to ruin the show, not only for.

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Speaker 2: The other people, but also for you.

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Speaker 1: So always remember that you're only as good as the

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Speaker 1: rest of your cast.

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Speaker 2: It's like a basketball team.

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Speaker 1: Lebron James is the greatest ball player out right now currently,

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Speaker 1: but the Lakers just got eliminated from the playoffs because

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Speaker 1: at the end of the day, it takes an entire

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Speaker 1: team to win championships. And trust me, for my sports listeners,

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Speaker 1: there's going to be a reboot of the Lakers.

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Speaker 3: I'm so with you. I think the value is so good.

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Speaker 4: I think Jackson Taylor got fired and spent five years studying, analyzing,

939
00:52:05,680 --> 00:52:08,760
Speaker 4: figuring out what was wrong, to never make those mistakes.

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Speaker 4: And I think that cast was put together much in

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Speaker 4: part by Jacks who is a brilliant producer. And I

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Speaker 4: love it. It's super entertaining. And I mean, we'll see

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Speaker 4: where the housewives go.

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Speaker 3: I mean, we'll.

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Speaker 2: See, we'll see, we'll see.

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Speaker 1: Well, listen, I know you have a lot of stuff

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Speaker 1: going on. Your podcast is so good.

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Speaker 2: Listen.

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Speaker 1: If you have not subscribed downloaded the Sarah Fraser podcast,

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Speaker 1: you have to do it.

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Speaker 2: It's so good, it's so fun.

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Speaker 1: She's she has such great insight and as you all know,

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Speaker 1: she's hilarious. She's not new to this, not new to

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Speaker 1: the reality of the king world either. But to all

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Speaker 1: my listeners, please please subscribe and download her podcast.

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Speaker 2: But Sarah, talk to them about it.

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Speaker 1: Let them know what shows you talk about, because you

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Speaker 1: also talk about a lot of teal sells too.

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Speaker 4: Oh my god, rain drops. If you also indulge in

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Speaker 4: sister Wives. There's a new one, Polly Family. Have you

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Speaker 4: seen this one where it's two couples in a closed

962
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Speaker 4: quad of you. Okay, these two straight couples. They've lived together, honey.

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Speaker 4: The men take their toothbrushes and pillow from bedroom to bedroom.

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Speaker 4: One of the chicks is pregnant. They don't know who

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Speaker 4: the daddy is because the men go between the bedrooms

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Speaker 4: each night. This is a real show, Polly Family, It's epic.

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Speaker 4: Then if these people are not crazy enough, do you

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Speaker 4: have time to be like a swinger? The one of

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Speaker 4: the women decide she wants to add a woman, a

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Speaker 4: fifth person into their relationship because things are apparently going

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Speaker 4: so well. You don't even know who the daddy is

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Speaker 4: or your babies. You want to add in somebody else here.

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Speaker 4: Oh my god, I mean we need an Apple AirTag

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Speaker 4: for everything in that house.

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Speaker 2: Anyway.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, Sister Wife.

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Speaker 4: People really know me from Sister Wives. I've been covering

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Speaker 4: that for years. Some of the other TLC shows I

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Speaker 4: do cover Bravo every single week, some of the Tea

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Speaker 4: with Bravo and the shows so into that. And then

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Speaker 4: I have a variety of pop culture guests, so our

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Speaker 4: girl Megan McCain, who we love has been on the show,

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Speaker 4: Drake Bell, just people that are really kind of are

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Speaker 4: talked about and in the moment of pop culture.

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Speaker 2: Listen.

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Speaker 1: I love your show, I love you Becoming on. Thank

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Speaker 1: you so much, and I will see you soon.

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Speaker 3: I love you by Gorgeous safe travels, see you soon.

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