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Speaker 3: Hey, little play makes your day, and today it made

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Speaker 4: All right, So now we're going to talk about apps, right,

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Speaker 4: So the problem the problem was, all right, i'll give

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Speaker 3: fly home from being out there, and I remember I

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Speaker 3: was talking about mom and I wrestled with it for

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Speaker 3: a little bit. But it was one of those things

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Speaker 3: where you know, you can't deny it, like it's it's

441
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Speaker 3: such it's such an obvious thing where I'm like, okay, Well,

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Speaker 3: as a role player, if you got you know, if

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Speaker 3: you got Lebron essentially been like, yeah, I'll play on

444
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Speaker 3: your team, but like you can't be point guard. I

445
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Speaker 3: want to be point guard. You kind of gotta go, okay,

446
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Speaker 3: well do I want to win a championship?

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Speaker 4: You know what I'm saying that that that takes it.

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Speaker 4: That's it takes a lot of humility, right, it takes

449
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Speaker 4: a lot of humility to do, because that's like even

450
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Speaker 4: going on Shark Tank right where it's like your yo,

451
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Speaker 4: your baby that you you gave birth to and you

452
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Speaker 4: pretty much let somebody else take it from me.

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Speaker 3: I'll take it from well.

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Speaker 6: No.

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Speaker 3: So, so what happens is is so like I said,

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Speaker 3: I very much in that moment, in that moment, like

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Speaker 3: I'm not gonna lie, like I'm scared. I'm trying to

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Speaker 3: figure everything out.

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Speaker 5: Did he ask to be CEO or you just offered that?

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Speaker 3: No? No, no, no. So what happened was was it kind

461
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Speaker 3: of was like a meet in the middle where it

462
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Speaker 3: was like it was a conclusion that had to get

463
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Speaker 3: reached on both ends because it was one of those

464
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Speaker 3: things where it's like one I couldn't have been because

465
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Speaker 3: and this is one thing that I want anyone to

466
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Speaker 3: take away from this, this is probably one of the

467
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Speaker 3: biggest lessons I've learned in my life because of this

468
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Speaker 3: is you don't know what you don't know. That is

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Speaker 3: point blank period. There are so many phases of life

470
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Speaker 3: where you don't know what you don't know. You don't

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Speaker 3: even know the question to ask to get the answer

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Speaker 3: for something down the road. Experience is the biggest thing

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Speaker 3: in the world. Like you guys said, you know, you

474
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Speaker 3: didn't know what you didn't know about making an app

475
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Speaker 3: until you, you know, made one unsuccessfully. Now you know.

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Speaker 5: Something, well, you know what the thing about it got

477
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Speaker 5: to cut you off.

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Speaker 4: But sure, if honestly, if we would have had mentors, right,

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Speaker 4: if we would have had somebody in the field, we

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Speaker 4: might have been successful. And that's the problem a lot

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Speaker 4: of times is that we don't have mentorship, right, So

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Speaker 4: don't we just winging it as we go? We didn't

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Speaker 4: have Uncle Leaf, you know, yeah, if we had somebody

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Speaker 4: like that. But that's great that you utilize your resource

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Speaker 4: you have. Yeah, a wise man utilizes all tools that's

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Speaker 4: available to him.

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Speaker 3: It's one hundred percent. It's it's a huge component of

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Speaker 3: this is is And that was one of the things

489
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Speaker 3: that was the conversation that we that we really have,

490
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Speaker 3: and we were like, all right, boom, let's lock in,

491
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Speaker 3: let's really do this. It was me understanding, I don't

492
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Speaker 3: know what. I don't know. You can see further than

493
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Speaker 3: just me right here, but I know that this idea

494
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Speaker 3: is so strong and I feel this so strongly, and

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Speaker 3: I know that my skills will be best served in

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Speaker 3: this area that you know, it's like I said, we

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Speaker 3: could say humility, but at the end of the day,

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Speaker 3: like I just I just truly believe that when you

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Speaker 3: are fortunate enough to be in that mode of creativity

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Speaker 3: where like things are just clicking, you know, it's just

501
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Speaker 3: almost like a lob. At that point, you're just playing

502
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Speaker 3: ball and you're like, okay, like go ahead at this,

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Speaker 3: all right, all right?

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Speaker 5: So now all right, So you have the business structure

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Speaker 5: of Rice.

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Speaker 4: You establish that your uncle with the CEO, you're good

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Speaker 4: at chief marketing officer.

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Speaker 3: I'm chief marketing and chief brand Yes.

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Speaker 5: What's the other guy's role?

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Speaker 3: So we got so that we got Russ Russell, who

511
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Speaker 3: was another of the older guys who he'd been in

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Speaker 3: business with my uncle for Russell Russ Russell, we got

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Speaker 3: we got names on this team and so so he's

514
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Speaker 3: been in so he's been in business, you know, over

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Speaker 3: forty years at this point, he's been you know, he'd

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Speaker 3: been working around with my uncle I think for a

517
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Speaker 3: little over twenty. But so these are individuals who know

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Speaker 3: the game very well. And he was the first person

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Speaker 3: to say is like, look, you know a lot of

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Speaker 3: the times when you go into a VC situation or

521
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Speaker 3: you know down the road, you need some gray hair

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Speaker 3: in the room, you know, someone with no experience venture capitalist.

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Speaker 5: Yah.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, but just in like put this in anything. I

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Speaker 3: think that a great point, you know, to piggyback way

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Speaker 3: on the on your social media stuff that you were

527
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Speaker 3: saying about how you know, start with what you have.

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Speaker 3: Huge part of making an app is an MVP minimum

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Speaker 3: viable product. So it's like it's the same thing with

530
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Speaker 3: making videos where it's like it you have to make

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Speaker 3: content some way because no one's gonna give you all

532
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Speaker 3: the equipment if they don't have something to go off.

533
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Speaker 3: And so that's how like a app making works is

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Speaker 3: I have to show you the slide show that then

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Speaker 3: turns into the wireframes. I have to show you the

536
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Speaker 3: wireframes that then turn into the you know, the first

537
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Speaker 3: like version and then build on so on and so forth.

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Speaker 4: So you all right, so you build your team out first, right, right,

539
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Speaker 4: you build your teams, You start the legal structure.

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Speaker 5: You have the LLC. I'm assuming you copyright the name

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Speaker 5: and all of that. You build your team. This is

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Speaker 5: before the tech. This is before tech.

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Speaker 3: This is this is it's kind of running congruently at

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Speaker 3: this point. Actually no, no, no, so we haven't. We

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Speaker 3: haven't started building the full full product yet.

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Speaker 4: No, so all right, let's talk about that. How do

547
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Speaker 4: you build that? How do you build that?

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Speaker 3: Okay, how much time we got? No? No, So, So

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Speaker 3: the thing about it is is, you know, there's coding languages,

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Speaker 3: there's things like, I mean, these were words I never

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Speaker 3: even knew before I got here. Where it's like are

552
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Speaker 3: you building REAC native? Is it swift? You know? Or

553
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Speaker 3: what are you using symphony on the back end? Like

554
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Speaker 3: there's so many things there. You know, APIs there's so

555
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Speaker 3: many nuances that once again you don't know what you

556
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Speaker 3: don't know, So you're kind of trial by fire at

557
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Speaker 3: this point in time. So you go from there and

558
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Speaker 3: you establish you know, your product manager, which is something

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Speaker 3: that when you guys were talking about yours, I was

560
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Speaker 3: like oh, they didn't have a product manager, which is

561
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Speaker 3: that's the guy who Yeah, maybe if you had someone

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Speaker 3: here who who had built an app before, who was

563
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Speaker 3: running point for you, guys who knew like, okay, these

564
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Speaker 3: are the tranches, these are the check marks they have

565
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Speaker 3: to get to you guys are coding and react native.

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Speaker 3: Let me see you know the gi hub like there

567
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Speaker 3: was there was certain components like that where you need

568
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Speaker 3: to building an app. The reason like a Zuckerberg can

569
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Speaker 3: create an app in his dorm room is because there's

570
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Speaker 3: only one of him. There's only one zucker but there's

571
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Speaker 3: only one of these people. You know, Steve Jobs needed

572
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Speaker 3: you needed his partner, all these people. It's so much

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Speaker 3: bigger than just your entity. Apps are, in my opinion,

574
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Speaker 3: it you know, every business is a team game, but

575
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Speaker 3: in my experience, the app one is the most. Like

576
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Speaker 3: everyone has to lean on each other at all times

577
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Speaker 3: because the minute it doesn't happen is the minute you're

578
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Speaker 3: like yo, you're so you're on vacation, Like I like

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Speaker 3: I can't get a hold of you. I don't know

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Speaker 3: what's going on. The whole products project stalls.

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Speaker 4: So you have all right, so the project manager, right,

582
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Speaker 4: where do you find a project manager.

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Speaker 3: So I mean for for what we did is we

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Speaker 3: were kind of we were kind of lucky. So we

585
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Speaker 3: start building the team out. We got Lee who's on

586
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Speaker 3: top of tech, as well as this other another guy, Scott.

587
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Speaker 3: Those two individuals ton of experiences within that, so now

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Speaker 3: they're so they're manning the tech side as long as

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Speaker 3: well as Nick. So those are like our three you know,

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Speaker 3: those are the three people on the tech part of this.

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Speaker 3: Because we contract this out to a bunch of what's

592
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Speaker 3: called a bunch of developers, originally in Eastern Europe. So

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Speaker 3: that's where we start from there.

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Speaker 5: But why do you use Europe your developers?

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Speaker 3: So we we went through a whole process of of

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Speaker 3: getting you know, of getting quotes, quotes and everything like that.

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Speaker 3: We thought at that time that was gonna be the best.

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Speaker 4: Way to gor so so Americans because that happened to

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Speaker 4: us too, So we were American app developers are extremely

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Speaker 4: They're way more expensive than right, like I said us,

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Speaker 4: it was ninety what was the quote that you've.

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Speaker 3: Got, I mean six figures everywhere? Yeah, everywhere?

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Speaker 5: And what was the quotes in Eastern Europe?

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Speaker 3: There were still six figures, it was but this way

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Speaker 3: it was. There was conversations where where it was looking

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Speaker 3: like you know, hey, it's gonna cost like you know,

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Speaker 3: like north of like four hundred thousand dollars.

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Speaker 5: To do this in America. So four hundred thousand of America.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, and we were just like, oh, like like you know,

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Speaker 3: those those those are the those are the beginning things.

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Speaker 3: And like I said, the thing about tech is in general,

612
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Speaker 3: is it's so expensive. It is it is. It doesn't

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Speaker 3: matter where you do it at. It's also this is

614
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Speaker 3: not a cautionary tale because it's a great thing. But

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Speaker 3: the thing about quick Track is is it's such a

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Speaker 3: it's such a deep app like it's like it's essentially

617
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Speaker 3: like you're recreating, like not recreating, but it's you know,

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Speaker 3: it has it has to have the same level of

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Speaker 3: complexities as you know, like an uber Lyft or things

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Speaker 3: like that.

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Speaker 4: It's complicated as So all right, so did you use

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Speaker 4: the developers in Eastern Europe?

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Speaker 3: Yes, so we use So we use them and then

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Speaker 3: eventually we transitioned fully after release to Nick in the

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Speaker 3: whole team in India. So what what's the cost analysis

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Speaker 3: at this point?

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Speaker 2: Right, Like you've got the developers, you got the team

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Speaker 2: that's saying six figures, is it lower six figures obviously

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Speaker 2: build a.

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Speaker 3: Little over three total total. Well, the thing about the

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Speaker 3: thing about building an app is is the the cost

632
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Speaker 3: never like, it doesn't stop. So it's not like, oh,

633
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Speaker 3: this is how much you paid and then you know, cool,

634
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Speaker 3: the app is done. It's you're there's always there's there's

635
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Speaker 3: Ever like, oh, you paid for this way, you guys.

686
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Speaker 3: You know you guys put thirty thousand into the app

687
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Speaker 3: or it goes out. That's great, But that thirty thousand

688
00:31:58,760 --> 00:32:03,200
Speaker 3: is is just to MV as the MVP's minimum viable product.

689
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Speaker 3: You have to then from there, you know, for the

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Speaker 3: eternity of its existence, you know, you have to pay upkeep,

691
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Speaker 3: you have to pay to continue that. You know, Server

692
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Speaker 3: costs all of those things.

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Speaker 2: So from the three hundred thousand, like, how do we

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Speaker 2: get funded for that?

695
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Speaker 3: So what we So, what we did is we decided

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Speaker 3: to we thought about this and we said, hey, who

697
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Speaker 3: would be the most you know, in general, who would

698
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Speaker 3: be the most anti quick track?

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Speaker 5: Right?

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Speaker 3: Attorneys?

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Speaker 5: Right?

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Speaker 2: Right?

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Speaker 3: Like attorneys would probably be the most anti quick track

704
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Speaker 3: simply because you know it it may be seen as

705
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Speaker 3: like taking from their practice. So what we did is

706
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Speaker 3: we leaned on, you know, the past relationships that my

707
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Speaker 3: partners had built with these really really like awesome these

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Speaker 3: awesome guys who saw the vision, who were like, hey,

709
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Speaker 3: this is you know, this is what we want to do.

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Speaker 3: And so we built, like I said, we built from there.

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Speaker 3: We ended up we ended up making them shareholders, brought

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Speaker 3: them in and that's what kicked everything.

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Speaker 5: Off for these people. Lawyers.

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Speaker 4: Yes, okay, so you all right, so you had investors, yes,

715
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Speaker 4: relationships from your partners, right, they came in and they

716
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Speaker 4: invested money in xact, they got equity. Right, Okay, Well,

717
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Speaker 4: how can so what are you do you know any

718
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Speaker 4: ideas for people that are looking to raise money that

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Speaker 4: may not have.

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Speaker 3: Hundred percent I mean, I think it's before anything else,

721
00:33:24,080 --> 00:33:28,680
Speaker 3: like the use what you've got mentality you know will

722
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Speaker 3: take you further than anything, because if you think that

723
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Speaker 3: the only way you're going to raise money is by

724
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Speaker 3: leaning on a relationship or something like that, then you

725
00:33:39,280 --> 00:33:42,360
Speaker 3: might miss your moment. You might miss the opportunity. There's

726
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Speaker 3: you know, there's a there's a I wish I wish

727
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Speaker 3: there was a rubric that said, hey, this is exactly

728
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Speaker 3: how you go raise money. One thing that you want

729
00:33:50,200 --> 00:33:53,719
Speaker 3: to do that I urge over anything else is focus

730
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Speaker 3: on the idea before you focus on the raise. So

731
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Speaker 3: focus on creating the best version of your idea, the

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Speaker 3: most realized you possibly can. You know, if that MVP

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Speaker 3: is a literal beta that you could have someone test,

734
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Speaker 3: or if it's a slide show, it doesn't matter what

735
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Speaker 3: it is. You have to take it to the absolute

736
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Speaker 3: limit of what you know how to do and then

737
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Speaker 3: from there, Like I said, I know this sounds cheesy

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Speaker 3: and corny, and I know there's like a here's how

739
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Speaker 3: to all of this, But at least in my experience

740
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Speaker 3: in my story is it was just if you act

741
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Speaker 3: in a way that has a level of sincerity with

742
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Speaker 3: this and you are not afraid to ask questions and

743
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Speaker 3: it could be dumb. All right, well cool, So who

744
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Speaker 3: do I know in my life that you know may

745
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Speaker 3: do something? Talk to them build it out from there,

746
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Speaker 3: because what I did is all I had was passion

747
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Speaker 3: attached to this. I just said, how do like once again,

748
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Speaker 3: I can't reiterate this enough. I had no experience in

749
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Speaker 3: this up to this point. All I did was say,

750
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Speaker 3: this thing won't leave my head. I don't know what

751
00:34:56,520 --> 00:35:00,680
Speaker 3: to do. And I kept building it into a relationships,

752
00:35:01,040 --> 00:35:03,840
Speaker 3: you know, stack themselves up to say, okay, well you

753
00:35:03,840 --> 00:35:07,080
Speaker 3: know what, it's bigger than you. Because when it has

754
00:35:07,120 --> 00:35:09,040
Speaker 3: to be no one, no one's investing in me, that's

755
00:35:09,040 --> 00:35:11,920
Speaker 3: not the point. They're investing in an overall idea. And

756
00:35:11,960 --> 00:35:13,640
Speaker 3: then on top of that, people aren't going to invest

757
00:35:13,719 --> 00:35:17,719
Speaker 3: their time in something that you want to do if

758
00:35:17,719 --> 00:35:20,040
Speaker 3: you're not willing to go to the limit. And so

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00:35:20,040 --> 00:35:21,880
Speaker 3: that's a huge component of this. So it's like the

760
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Speaker 3: like you said, use what you have.

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Speaker 2: So even if I had five thousand dollars, right, I

762
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Speaker 2: got to build out to that five thousand. But I

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Speaker 2: have to have something tangible one hundred percent.

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Speaker 3: I mean, it's just the way it is in general.

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Speaker 3: Is like I said, I'm sure there's like romantic stories

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Speaker 3: of people going to someone with a bunch of money

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Speaker 3: like boom, I got this idea. And there's like the speech,

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Speaker 3: you know, the famous the Carnegie speech where he ended

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Speaker 3: up kind of bringing together like the Steel Trust. I

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Speaker 3: don't know if you guys have heard about that. He

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Speaker 3: essentially was a speech that ended up being worth a

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Speaker 3: hundred million dollars. But but the thing is is sure

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Speaker 3: those moments I would kill for one of those if

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Speaker 3: you and Farberteene, I would absolutely love that. But you

775
00:36:00,440 --> 00:36:04,480
Speaker 3: have to have something tangible. You know, I've gotten it

776
00:36:04,520 --> 00:36:07,520
Speaker 3: beaten to my head by my partners and everything through

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Speaker 3: a whole bunch of time. But you know, talking is wonderful,

778
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Speaker 3: but it's all about execution.

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Speaker 5: All right.

780
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Speaker 4: So okay, so now you raised the three hundred thousand,

781
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Speaker 4: you developed the app, right, you have like six partners.

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Speaker 5: At this point.

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Speaker 3: So at this point, yeah, right, six partners.

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00:36:22,840 --> 00:36:25,440
Speaker 4: Okay, so now you have the app built, right, So

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Speaker 4: now what's the next steps as far as how do

786
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Speaker 4: you get the app into Apple or how do you

787
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Speaker 4: get the app into to sell it? How do you

788
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Speaker 4: market the app? How do you monetize the app? How

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Speaker 4: do you like?

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Speaker 3: Right, So, in general, the first thing that happens is is,

791
00:36:43,000 --> 00:36:45,160
Speaker 3: you know, it's a ton of testing. And I can't

792
00:36:45,160 --> 00:36:47,360
Speaker 3: stress this is enough. It really is like a true

793
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Speaker 3: labor of love.

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Speaker 2: How long is this process at this point?

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Speaker 3: Shoot, August till March. So it was from August to March. Yeah, so,

796
00:37:01,120 --> 00:37:03,080
Speaker 3: and it was supposed to be shorter, but like I said,

797
00:37:03,120 --> 00:37:05,879
Speaker 3: it's if you if you want certainty and making an app,

798
00:37:05,920 --> 00:37:07,759
Speaker 3: they don't go together, like you know, it's just part

799
00:37:07,800 --> 00:37:10,680
Speaker 3: of the deal. But so that happens, they all get that,

800
00:37:10,800 --> 00:37:15,400
Speaker 3: all gets put together, tons of testing, tons of work,

801
00:37:15,800 --> 00:37:17,600
Speaker 3: all of those things at the time. Keep in mind,

802
00:37:18,520 --> 00:37:22,360
Speaker 3: I'm my I'm I'm marketing like I'm building out the whole,

803
00:37:22,760 --> 00:37:25,920
Speaker 3: the whole idea behind how we translate this to everybody.

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00:37:26,239 --> 00:37:30,160
Speaker 3: You know, we have we have uh Nick flying from

805
00:37:30,520 --> 00:37:34,879
Speaker 3: from India to Belarus and back and things like that,

806
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Speaker 3: you know, negative degree temperatures and things.

807
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Speaker 5: Yeah.

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Speaker 3: No, you know, we got Lee and Ohio being up

809
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Speaker 3: at all hours. You know, the time change get everything going.

810
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Speaker 3: And so eventually after a bunch of tests and whatnot,

811
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Speaker 3: it's ready to go. It's ready to go, it's ready

812
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Speaker 3: to get put out into the App Store, Google Play,

813
00:37:54,040 --> 00:37:57,720
Speaker 3: everything like that. From that point, you then go ahead

814
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Speaker 3: and you know, once it's initial release, you gotta wait

815
00:38:00,719 --> 00:38:03,240
Speaker 3: for things with Apple because that's just the way Apple works.

816
00:38:03,440 --> 00:38:05,440
Speaker 3: They charge you for having it in the store. So

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Speaker 3: I mean what they do is Apple takes I believe

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Speaker 3: it's I believe it's thirty percent of of everything. So

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Speaker 3: that's so that's why you know a lot of a

820
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Speaker 3: lot of apps, their their payment processing will be outside

821
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Speaker 3: of the app store. So like have you noticed you

822
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Speaker 3: can't pay for Spotify in the app store, Like you

823
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Speaker 3: have to go onto the desktop version in order to

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Speaker 3: pay for premium. So it's things like that because they're

825
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Speaker 3: they're kind of like circumventing the process. Well that's what

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Speaker 3: That's what I'm saying. The same thing with like a

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Speaker 3: Netflix and things like that. They're trying to, you know,

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Speaker 3: get outside of the payment Well that's what I'm saying. Yeah,

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Speaker 3: And like I said, I might be wrong that Apple

830
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Speaker 3: doesn't touch it at some point in time, but I

831
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Speaker 3: mean it's A. It's a. That's what people try to do,

832
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Speaker 3: is they try to you know, they wanted to think

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Speaker 3: of every possible way to you know, have you know, Apple,

834
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Speaker 3: there's a reason they're the biggest company in world, his three.

835
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Speaker 3: You know, they know how to, they know how to

836
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Speaker 3: you know, accumulate from everything.

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Speaker 5: And Apple takes thirty percent. How much does it Android take?

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Speaker 3: I don't think they take anything. I'm trying to. I'm

839
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Speaker 3: trying to think. I don't think. I don't think they

840
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Speaker 3: I don't think they touch it the same way Apple does.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, okay, so and then they approve it, they have

842
00:39:18,800 --> 00:39:20,960
Speaker 4: to what what what's the criteria to approve an app?

843
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Speaker 3: You know, there's I mean there's so there. It's pages

844
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Speaker 3: and pages on pages.

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Speaker 2: Of oh no, no, no, no, no.

846
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Speaker 5: Not at all.

847
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Speaker 3: It's like I said, there's absolute pages on on that.

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Speaker 5: Uh.

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Speaker 3: And and it happens like you you know, you'll get

850
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Speaker 3: the little the little hit up that says like, uh,

851
00:39:38,320 --> 00:39:39,960
Speaker 3: you know, it wasn't cleared or it was cleared, and

852
00:39:39,960 --> 00:39:41,799
Speaker 3: then you got to figure out the exact reasons why

853
00:39:42,040 --> 00:39:45,280
Speaker 3: and everything like that, and then you make whatever changes

854
00:39:45,320 --> 00:39:47,239
Speaker 3: that need to get changed, whether it be something in

855
00:39:47,280 --> 00:39:49,439
Speaker 3: the wording of how it's put out on the app

856
00:39:49,440 --> 00:39:51,520
Speaker 3: store or whatnot, and you know, you just go from there.

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Speaker 4: So all right, so now it's in the app store,

858
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Speaker 4: it gets approved, but now it's like a ten million

859
00:39:56,000 --> 00:39:58,040
Speaker 4: apps in the app store for sure, how do you

860
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Speaker 4: get your app noticed? How do you market you at?

861
00:40:00,880 --> 00:40:01,960
Speaker 4: What's the profits for that?

862
00:40:02,200 --> 00:40:05,319
Speaker 3: So you know, one of the hugest things that that

863
00:40:06,760 --> 00:40:09,560
Speaker 3: I had spoken earlier before you even started the podcast

864
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Speaker 3: is when you're when you're just getting into the app store,

865
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Speaker 3: what I would not necessarily advise because I'm still learning

866
00:40:18,400 --> 00:40:21,239
Speaker 3: like everyone else is. But a huge part of this is,

867
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Speaker 3: you know, it's essentially a proof of concept. At this point,

868
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Speaker 3: you're trying to prove that there's some validity to your idea.

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Speaker 5: Here.

870
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Speaker 3: You're not going to be able to outmarket companies who

871
00:40:33,239 --> 00:40:36,600
Speaker 3: are dumping thousands or millions of dollars into making sure

872
00:40:36,640 --> 00:40:40,480
Speaker 3: that they're you know, they're in everybody's eyeline. But at

873
00:40:40,480 --> 00:40:42,520
Speaker 3: this point in time, it's like taking a smaller bite

874
00:40:42,520 --> 00:40:45,840
Speaker 3: and going, Okay, cool, how do I exactly? You know,

875
00:40:46,520 --> 00:40:48,120
Speaker 3: we can't go from A to Z at this point.

876
00:40:48,160 --> 00:40:49,839
Speaker 3: We still got to get to B before we get

877
00:40:49,840 --> 00:40:51,360
Speaker 3: to that level where it's like, all right, sick, we

878
00:40:51,400 --> 00:40:54,680
Speaker 3: got a million users. Now, So what we did is

879
00:40:54,719 --> 00:40:56,919
Speaker 3: we said, all right, we want to focus on growing

880
00:40:56,960 --> 00:40:59,600
Speaker 3: a community very much to earn your like, earn your leisure.

881
00:41:00,080 --> 00:41:02,920
Speaker 3: We want a quality number of users who are going

882
00:41:02,960 --> 00:41:06,200
Speaker 3: to galvanize for us. Right. It's because the thing about

883
00:41:06,200 --> 00:41:08,200
Speaker 3: a quick tract is is that you need two people

884
00:41:08,239 --> 00:41:11,160
Speaker 3: to make one. So at the end of the day,

885
00:41:11,719 --> 00:41:15,239
Speaker 3: one user turns into two users. So essentially the most

886
00:41:15,280 --> 00:41:19,200
Speaker 3: important thing here is, Okay, let's continue to grow a community.

887
00:41:19,280 --> 00:41:22,960
Speaker 3: Let's really champion our users. Let's really care about this,

888
00:41:23,160 --> 00:41:27,000
Speaker 3: not just lip service. Let's really care about the community

889
00:41:27,040 --> 00:41:30,759
Speaker 3: we're serving. And you know, then from there we'll we'll

890
00:41:30,840 --> 00:41:33,600
Speaker 3: leverage certain platforms and we'll just build. But the most

891
00:41:33,600 --> 00:41:35,160
Speaker 3: important thing is is we're going to keep it as

892
00:41:35,200 --> 00:41:36,520
Speaker 3: organic as humanly possible.

893
00:41:36,840 --> 00:41:38,960
Speaker 2: So in the first let's say the first three months

894
00:41:39,160 --> 00:41:41,840
Speaker 2: of launching an app, was there a goal target for

895
00:41:41,880 --> 00:41:43,359
Speaker 2: how many users you will sell?

896
00:41:43,800 --> 00:41:46,279
Speaker 3: So what we do is, I mean we have like

897
00:41:46,320 --> 00:41:48,920
Speaker 3: a growth rate. We essentially are like trying.

898
00:41:49,000 --> 00:41:49,399
Speaker 5: We are.

899
00:41:50,880 --> 00:41:54,319
Speaker 3: Essentially twelve percent each week. Is you know you want it.

900
00:41:54,320 --> 00:41:56,960
Speaker 3: It's all about metrics. The game is all metric based.

901
00:41:57,360 --> 00:41:59,239
Speaker 3: And it's all about keeping it healthy, and it's all

902
00:41:59,280 --> 00:42:04,719
Speaker 3: about growing that that entity at a at a marginal rate,

903
00:42:05,040 --> 00:42:06,520
Speaker 3: where like I said, you don't want to you don't

904
00:42:06,520 --> 00:42:08,600
Speaker 3: want to be in a situation where you're looking around

905
00:42:09,040 --> 00:42:11,600
Speaker 3: and it's bad if you don't have anybody, and it's

906
00:42:11,600 --> 00:42:13,360
Speaker 3: bad if you have too much because you're not you know,

907
00:42:13,400 --> 00:42:16,600
Speaker 3: you're you're not prepared. The database isn't necessarily built for that.

908
00:42:16,719 --> 00:42:17,480
Speaker 5: So how how did you?

909
00:42:17,560 --> 00:42:17,839
Speaker 3: All? Right?

910
00:42:17,880 --> 00:42:20,680
Speaker 4: So the first like, how did you get your initial

911
00:42:20,840 --> 00:42:23,200
Speaker 4: first group of people to sign up?

912
00:42:23,239 --> 00:42:27,520
Speaker 3: So so what we did is first and foremost just

913
00:42:27,600 --> 00:42:31,040
Speaker 3: out of the mud, like from nothing. We beat our

914
00:42:31,040 --> 00:42:33,960
Speaker 3: phones up. Okay. So so another member of the team

915
00:42:34,360 --> 00:42:37,920
Speaker 3: in in the story that that gets brought in a

916
00:42:37,920 --> 00:42:40,800
Speaker 3: couple of months back is my guy Blake. Now Blake,

917
00:42:40,800 --> 00:42:44,440
Speaker 3: he comes from a sports agent background, uh, former athlete.

918
00:42:44,960 --> 00:42:46,759
Speaker 3: He gets brought into the fold as well. He kind

919
00:42:46,760 --> 00:42:49,200
Speaker 3: of sees the vision and he's just like, yeah, absolutely

920
00:42:49,239 --> 00:42:51,600
Speaker 3: it's run and you know, can't do it without him.

921
00:42:52,000 --> 00:42:54,839
Speaker 3: So me and him first we go like, we gotta

922
00:42:54,960 --> 00:42:56,360
Speaker 3: we gotta you know, we gotta get this out of

923
00:42:56,360 --> 00:42:58,200
Speaker 3: the mud. We gotta, we gotta beat up the phones.

924
00:42:58,200 --> 00:43:01,560
Speaker 3: We gotta go to it. So we hit up every

925
00:43:01,560 --> 00:43:03,759
Speaker 3: single person we know, we you know what I'm saying, like,

926
00:43:03,800 --> 00:43:08,720
Speaker 3: that's that's just what it is, Like five six hundred

927
00:43:08,719 --> 00:43:12,239
Speaker 3: people like initial downloads or whatever, just off that and

928
00:43:12,280 --> 00:43:14,960
Speaker 3: then from there we we you know, we had a

929
00:43:15,120 --> 00:43:18,640
Speaker 3: strategy that said, okay, well, let's not lie to ourselves.

930
00:43:18,719 --> 00:43:22,200
Speaker 3: Instagram is the world, you know, that's that's where everyone is,

931
00:43:22,320 --> 00:43:25,360
Speaker 3: that's where everything is at. Let's attack that as strong

932
00:43:25,400 --> 00:43:27,960
Speaker 3: as we can. Let's get individuals who believe in this

933
00:43:28,680 --> 00:43:33,080
Speaker 3: to champion this. And you know, that's just what's what

934
00:43:33,120 --> 00:43:34,560
Speaker 3: we started to do. We started building that up. We

935
00:43:34,600 --> 00:43:36,920
Speaker 3: started to get individuals who, you know, whether they are

936
00:43:36,960 --> 00:43:40,279
Speaker 3: athletes or entertainers, that believed in what we were doing.

937
00:43:40,520 --> 00:43:44,520
Speaker 3: Influencers yeah, well influencers too, yeah, and so we just

938
00:43:44,640 --> 00:43:47,640
Speaker 3: we we built that out and the key is to

939
00:43:47,719 --> 00:43:50,120
Speaker 3: keep it as organic as humanly possible. What's the budget

940
00:43:50,120 --> 00:43:53,480
Speaker 3: for that? That was free ninety nine do all that,

941
00:43:53,800 --> 00:43:56,680
Speaker 3: like the influence is promoted for freetion. So so what

942
00:43:56,719 --> 00:44:00,920
Speaker 3: we did, so literally what we did was we went

943
00:44:00,960 --> 00:44:06,080
Speaker 3: ahead and said like, hey, look we're building this out.

944
00:44:06,480 --> 00:44:08,400
Speaker 3: We have like at this point in time, there's no

945
00:44:08,480 --> 00:44:11,000
Speaker 3: budgets for these things where it's it's just all muscle.

946
00:44:11,080 --> 00:44:14,879
Speaker 3: It's trying to get to it. I have people who

947
00:44:14,880 --> 00:44:17,719
Speaker 3: I'm very blessed and grateful to call my friends. You

948
00:44:17,760 --> 00:44:19,120
Speaker 3: know that. Ye we first met.

949
00:44:19,680 --> 00:44:21,120
Speaker 2: I was like, when you were telling us the idea

950
00:44:21,239 --> 00:44:23,560
Speaker 2: believe We're in an elevator and I'm like, yo, I've

951
00:44:23,600 --> 00:44:24,479
Speaker 2: heard this idea before.

952
00:44:24,560 --> 00:44:24,719
Speaker 4: Man.

953
00:44:24,880 --> 00:44:26,960
Speaker 2: I'm like, yo, I heard it on the radio or

954
00:44:27,640 --> 00:44:29,600
Speaker 2: I know I heard this idea and that's what I

955
00:44:29,640 --> 00:44:31,399
Speaker 2: was saying. Like it took me like until I got

956
00:44:31,400 --> 00:44:34,160
Speaker 2: back to New York and I was on the shade

957
00:44:34,200 --> 00:44:36,520
Speaker 2: room and I'm like, yo, that's cold right there, Like

958
00:44:36,760 --> 00:44:38,680
Speaker 2: that's when I heard this. You were with Jill Scott.

959
00:44:38,800 --> 00:44:41,759
Speaker 3: Yeah, no, I was, that's gonna say so. So I

960
00:44:41,760 --> 00:44:44,480
Speaker 3: have a very good friend in Jill Scott. I used

961
00:44:44,520 --> 00:44:48,640
Speaker 3: to be her assistant way back in the day. Uh. Shoot,

962
00:44:49,040 --> 00:44:52,960
Speaker 3: it's even before that. It was weirdly enough like that.

963
00:44:53,280 --> 00:44:54,960
Speaker 3: You know those friends where you look and you're just like,

964
00:44:55,000 --> 00:44:58,120
Speaker 3: how did how did we become friends? It's one of

965
00:44:58,120 --> 00:45:00,760
Speaker 3: those where it's like, literally, you know, that's that's my ace.

966
00:45:00,880 --> 00:45:03,360
Speaker 3: But I couldn't put two and two together how we

967
00:45:03,440 --> 00:45:07,840
Speaker 3: got here? But so you know, she she I remember

968
00:45:07,880 --> 00:45:09,960
Speaker 3: talking to her about it when it was on pieces

969
00:45:09,960 --> 00:45:12,160
Speaker 3: of paper, Like I remember coming to her and just

970
00:45:12,160 --> 00:45:14,279
Speaker 3: being excited, you know, not for anything, just say like

971
00:45:14,320 --> 00:45:15,880
Speaker 3: this is what I'm doing. I'm gonna see if this

972
00:45:15,920 --> 00:45:19,680
Speaker 3: goes anywhere. And so she's always been down for the cause.

973
00:45:19,840 --> 00:45:23,040
Speaker 3: She you know, she she she believes in it, and

974
00:45:23,080 --> 00:45:26,279
Speaker 3: she believes in me. And I remember, you know, I

975
00:45:26,600 --> 00:45:28,440
Speaker 3: flew out, I flew out to go see her and

976
00:45:28,840 --> 00:45:30,520
Speaker 3: just kind of was just proud to show her like,

977
00:45:30,600 --> 00:45:34,600
Speaker 3: you know, boom, this is the actual product. Least believe me.

978
00:45:34,640 --> 00:45:38,080
Speaker 3: The craziest thing is about all this is as much

979
00:45:38,120 --> 00:45:39,560
Speaker 3: as you want to say that, like as much as

980
00:45:39,920 --> 00:45:42,759
Speaker 3: look what I did, this is crazy. It's two things. One,

981
00:45:43,040 --> 00:45:48,160
Speaker 3: you start appreciating the progown WE so much more. You

982
00:45:48,200 --> 00:45:51,719
Speaker 3: start appreciating like, nah, this is a we. Like there

983
00:45:51,800 --> 00:45:56,040
Speaker 3: is there's no I in any of this, because I

984
00:45:56,239 --> 00:45:59,160
Speaker 3: is I is an idea that you get to you know,

985
00:45:59,440 --> 00:46:01,320
Speaker 3: sit there and make on your computer at home and

986
00:46:01,320 --> 00:46:03,160
Speaker 3: doesn't get to see the light of day. I is

987
00:46:03,239 --> 00:46:05,279
Speaker 3: an idea that you can put some time into. You

988
00:46:05,280 --> 00:46:07,160
Speaker 3: can get traction. And there's a bunch of eyes that

989
00:46:07,239 --> 00:46:11,440
Speaker 3: have done amazing, wonderful things. But in just my short

990
00:46:11,480 --> 00:46:13,560
Speaker 3: time in the app world, you're like, this is a

991
00:46:13,760 --> 00:46:19,080
Speaker 3: wee thing by far. Just when we went ahead and

992
00:46:19,080 --> 00:46:21,080
Speaker 3: we knew someone over there and they saw the jail

993
00:46:21,200 --> 00:46:23,319
Speaker 3: thing and they were like, oh, a feature on you,

994
00:46:23,880 --> 00:46:25,400
Speaker 3: it was just it was just Instagram posts.

995
00:46:25,840 --> 00:46:30,800
Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, yeah, I was like, wait, so Jill Scott

996
00:46:30,840 --> 00:46:31,920
Speaker 4: was one of the influences that help.

997
00:46:32,239 --> 00:46:32,920
Speaker 2: Yeah, so.

998
00:46:35,280 --> 00:46:37,319
Speaker 4: You just told him about it. They believed in it.

999
00:46:37,440 --> 00:46:38,960
Speaker 4: They did post for you story.

1000
00:46:39,480 --> 00:46:40,839
Speaker 3: So it was post. It was a couple of things.

1001
00:46:40,840 --> 00:46:44,480
Speaker 3: So it was like they did post. Kevin Love did

1002
00:46:44,480 --> 00:46:47,759
Speaker 3: a story. Yeah, that was called that my buddy Blake

1003
00:46:47,800 --> 00:46:51,680
Speaker 3: he knows, he knows him really really well. And so yeah,

1004
00:46:52,000 --> 00:46:54,920
Speaker 3: and so just you know, coming up from coming up

1005
00:46:54,960 --> 00:46:57,279
Speaker 3: from there like that. It's one of those things where

1006
00:46:57,320 --> 00:46:59,239
Speaker 3: it's like you said, scrambling. It's just like it's the

1007
00:46:59,400 --> 00:47:02,879
Speaker 3: ingenuity part of it where you're like, hey, look you

1008
00:47:02,880 --> 00:47:09,840
Speaker 3: you gotta get it however you can do. Yeah, no,

1009
00:47:09,920 --> 00:47:14,480
Speaker 3: we we got. It's been so much going on, I'm

1010
00:47:14,520 --> 00:47:16,880
Speaker 3: trying to think. Yeah, no, I mean, it was it was,

1011
00:47:16,920 --> 00:47:20,040
Speaker 3: it was it was a host of other athletes. We

1012
00:47:20,120 --> 00:47:23,439
Speaker 3: have a good friend, she's an actress named Paige Herd

1013
00:47:23,440 --> 00:47:28,200
Speaker 3: who's been super, super supportive and just built off from

1014
00:47:28,200 --> 00:47:31,160
Speaker 3: there like like it was. It was one of those

1015
00:47:31,160 --> 00:47:33,799
Speaker 3: things where you know, truth be told. Money was not evan.

1016
00:47:33,920 --> 00:47:36,759
Speaker 3: It wasn't even a thought like, it wasn't even about that.

1017
00:47:36,840 --> 00:47:38,600
Speaker 3: It was just like, hey, when can I post this

1018
00:47:38,719 --> 00:47:44,600
Speaker 3: for you kind of thing. I mean, it could be

1019
00:47:44,640 --> 00:47:46,520
Speaker 3: they believed in it could be that they like us,

1020
00:47:46,880 --> 00:47:51,000
Speaker 3: you know, whatever it is. I I was grateful either way.

1021
00:47:51,840 --> 00:47:55,640
Speaker 4: O R oh, yeah, absolutely, it's it that is.

1022
00:47:55,719 --> 00:47:58,319
Speaker 3: I mean the growth model is is very much, you know,

1023
00:47:58,480 --> 00:48:03,680
Speaker 3: understanding the platform or people have and if someone believes

1024
00:48:03,680 --> 00:48:05,960
Speaker 3: in something, like I said, my model thing is is

1025
00:48:06,040 --> 00:48:08,520
Speaker 3: I can you know, you can't make anybody do anything,

1026
00:48:08,520 --> 00:48:10,640
Speaker 3: and I never would try to. So I want to

1027
00:48:10,680 --> 00:48:13,680
Speaker 3: make sure that you know, if people believe in it. Oh,

1028
00:48:13,719 --> 00:48:16,120
Speaker 3: I'm yeah, I'm you know, I'm a champion you just

1029
00:48:16,120 --> 00:48:19,960
Speaker 3: like you champion me. What lot? So the way we

1030
00:48:20,000 --> 00:48:23,320
Speaker 3: work is quick Track is a subscription based service where

1031
00:48:23,440 --> 00:48:27,800
Speaker 3: it's free to always receive no matter what. It's free

1032
00:48:28,120 --> 00:48:30,440
Speaker 3: first two months, regardless of the fact it's free to

1033
00:48:30,480 --> 00:48:32,680
Speaker 3: do anything on the app after the next two months,

1034
00:48:32,880 --> 00:48:35,120
Speaker 3: it's just it's just three ninety nine a month if

1035
00:48:35,120 --> 00:48:37,359
Speaker 3: you want to use all of the features attached to it.

1036
00:48:37,680 --> 00:48:40,239
Speaker 3: And the thing about quick Tract is is, like I said,

1037
00:48:40,280 --> 00:48:43,520
Speaker 3: it's not just about creating a contract. It's because when

1038
00:48:43,560 --> 00:48:46,480
Speaker 3: you create an agreement, like that's just the beginning, Like

1039
00:48:46,719 --> 00:48:48,960
Speaker 3: saying you're gonna do the job is just the beginning

1040
00:48:48,960 --> 00:48:51,680
Speaker 3: of the job. What happens is the duration of the

1041
00:48:51,760 --> 00:48:54,919
Speaker 3: job to the completion of the job. So quick Tract

1042
00:48:55,000 --> 00:48:57,560
Speaker 3: is the first app that's a live agreement. So if

1043
00:48:57,560 --> 00:49:00,000
Speaker 3: anything changes, if you know, deadlines have to be moved,

1044
00:49:00,239 --> 00:49:03,400
Speaker 3: scope of work changes, anything like that, you could actually

1045
00:49:03,440 --> 00:49:06,279
Speaker 3: request that amendment in real time and then a person

1046
00:49:06,280 --> 00:49:08,720
Speaker 3: if they agree to it, then it gets logged into

1047
00:49:08,760 --> 00:49:12,000
Speaker 3: the PDF document that's attached to everything and essentially just

1048
00:49:12,040 --> 00:49:14,640
Speaker 3: you know, keeps everybody on the same page. Documents.

1049
00:49:14,719 --> 00:49:19,160
Speaker 4: Yeah, us, how do people know, like as far as

1050
00:49:19,160 --> 00:49:20,880
Speaker 4: the app right, how do you know how to price

1051
00:49:20,880 --> 00:49:21,279
Speaker 4: your app?

1052
00:49:21,920 --> 00:49:24,680
Speaker 3: It's I mean it's interesting because there's a there's a

1053
00:49:24,680 --> 00:49:26,720
Speaker 3: ton of literature on that that you can go through.

1054
00:49:27,560 --> 00:49:29,960
Speaker 3: I mean a lot of it. I also less sexy

1055
00:49:30,000 --> 00:49:32,840
Speaker 3: answer some of its trial and error. You know, some

1056
00:49:32,840 --> 00:49:35,719
Speaker 3: something's worth what people will pay for, And I think

1057
00:49:35,760 --> 00:49:40,919
Speaker 3: that you know, we we we feel comfortable at three

1058
00:49:41,040 --> 00:49:42,880
Speaker 3: ninety nine for the time being, just because it's you know,

1059
00:49:42,960 --> 00:49:44,759
Speaker 3: you could run your whole business for the price of

1060
00:49:44,800 --> 00:49:48,640
Speaker 3: a cup of coffee essentially, and you know, so like

1061
00:49:48,680 --> 00:49:50,759
Speaker 3: I said, it's I wish, I wish I had a

1062
00:49:50,840 --> 00:49:53,040
Speaker 3: sexier answer than that, but it's just very much where

1063
00:49:53,040 --> 00:49:53,560
Speaker 3: it's at.

1064
00:49:53,520 --> 00:49:56,839
Speaker 5: All, right, So, okay, can we talk about vcs? All right?

1065
00:49:56,880 --> 00:49:59,439
Speaker 4: So that the goal a lot of times in tech

1066
00:50:00,160 --> 00:50:03,600
Speaker 4: is to either a sell your company or be if

1067
00:50:03,600 --> 00:50:05,919
Speaker 4: you really want to, you know, go to the next level.

1068
00:50:05,920 --> 00:50:09,640
Speaker 4: You need massive amounts of funding and most people don't

1069
00:50:09,640 --> 00:50:11,439
Speaker 4: have that. They can't read that. So this is where

1070
00:50:11,560 --> 00:50:15,040
Speaker 4: dented capital firms come into. Blaye mentioned capital firms invest

1071
00:50:15,120 --> 00:50:18,760
Speaker 4: in tech companies, right, So, yeah, you have some knowledge

1072
00:50:18,800 --> 00:50:21,239
Speaker 4: on vcs. Can you explain the process of vcs and

1073
00:50:21,320 --> 00:50:22,880
Speaker 4: funding rounds ABC?

1074
00:50:23,080 --> 00:50:25,960
Speaker 3: So so, I mean, yeah, my knowledge is growing by

1075
00:50:26,000 --> 00:50:30,000
Speaker 3: the day, but I'll explain the best I know. How

1076
00:50:30,320 --> 00:50:35,719
Speaker 3: So you know, in general, vcs they invest in tech

1077
00:50:35,719 --> 00:50:38,560
Speaker 3: companies very much like you said, and the way that

1078
00:50:38,600 --> 00:50:41,440
Speaker 3: they invest for each firm is different. They may have

1079
00:50:41,480 --> 00:50:43,800
Speaker 3: a certain focus in something where someone's like we invest

1080
00:50:43,840 --> 00:50:45,680
Speaker 3: in green tech, we want things that are you know,

1081
00:50:46,000 --> 00:50:50,799
Speaker 3: environmentally and ego conscious. Right now, so going into you know,

1082
00:50:50,920 --> 00:50:53,279
Speaker 3: looking at a VC firm, you know, which is once

1083
00:50:53,320 --> 00:50:55,319
Speaker 3: again it's so far down the road from when you

1084
00:50:55,360 --> 00:50:59,480
Speaker 3: first create your app. What you're gonna want to what

1085
00:50:59,480 --> 00:51:01,400
Speaker 3: you're gonna want to do is you want to focus

1086
00:51:01,400 --> 00:51:04,640
Speaker 3: on what they focus on. Because if if you're you know,

1087
00:51:04,680 --> 00:51:07,000
Speaker 3: if the VC firm in your neck of the woods

1088
00:51:07,000 --> 00:51:11,200
Speaker 3: focuses on green you know, tech and that's not your entity,

1089
00:51:11,600 --> 00:51:13,440
Speaker 3: they might not want to put that in portfolio as

1090
00:51:13,480 --> 00:51:15,759
Speaker 3: they may not be something that they care about, you know.

1091
00:51:16,200 --> 00:51:20,759
Speaker 3: So that's that's a very abridged idea of what you

1092
00:51:20,840 --> 00:51:24,919
Speaker 3: want to start looking into with VCS, and then from there,

1093
00:51:24,960 --> 00:51:27,759
Speaker 3: I mean, look, the what we're in the process of

1094
00:51:27,880 --> 00:51:30,719
Speaker 3: right now is like like we said, it's we're in

1095
00:51:30,760 --> 00:51:33,759
Speaker 3: proof of concept phase. We are we are building out

1096
00:51:33,800 --> 00:51:37,160
Speaker 3: something that you hope to show. Hey, this is where

1097
00:51:37,160 --> 00:51:39,880
Speaker 3: we are, this is what we do. It's a consistent

1098
00:51:39,920 --> 00:51:43,400
Speaker 3: formula that's working. Now we want to scale it, you know,

1099
00:51:43,920 --> 00:51:46,759
Speaker 3: VCS and everything that's all about scaling. You know, some

1100
00:51:46,800 --> 00:51:49,920
Speaker 3: people could could be early stage, and that's wonderful if

1101
00:51:49,920 --> 00:51:52,279
Speaker 3: you could pull that off. But for the most part,

1102
00:51:52,320 --> 00:51:55,520
Speaker 3: it's you know, they they're the battery in your back

1103
00:51:55,800 --> 00:51:59,440
Speaker 3: that takes you from you know, fifty thousand to you know,

1104
00:51:59,480 --> 00:52:00,960
Speaker 3: five hundred thousand users.

1105
00:52:01,640 --> 00:52:04,480
Speaker 2: I mean, we've seen people, especially in hip hop culture,

1106
00:52:05,040 --> 00:52:06,919
Speaker 2: with their own VC firms.

1107
00:52:06,560 --> 00:52:08,879
Speaker 3: Like a god like nads. Oh we're killing it, yeah,

1108
00:52:08,960 --> 00:52:09,319
Speaker 3: killing it.

1109
00:52:09,440 --> 00:52:11,760
Speaker 2: Yeah sure, And most of our you know, our community

1110
00:52:12,080 --> 00:52:14,359
Speaker 2: are not even where what what venture capitalists are.

1111
00:52:14,520 --> 00:52:15,840
Speaker 5: Like were the different rounds?

1112
00:52:16,280 --> 00:52:18,880
Speaker 3: So, I mean you got look, you got your seed round,

1113
00:52:19,040 --> 00:52:22,399
Speaker 3: which that's the initial investment of anything. Then you got

1114
00:52:22,440 --> 00:52:26,040
Speaker 3: your your A, which is you know that's where we're

1115
00:52:26,040 --> 00:52:28,040
Speaker 3: in the process of going to right now. Then you

1116
00:52:28,120 --> 00:52:30,200
Speaker 3: got your B C, and then eventually you get to

1117
00:52:30,200 --> 00:52:32,719
Speaker 3: a place where you know, the companies if you look

1118
00:52:32,760 --> 00:52:34,560
Speaker 3: on crunch base and they're like so and so invested

1119
00:52:34,600 --> 00:52:36,560
Speaker 3: one hundred and ninety million dollars, and it's yeah, you

1120
00:52:36,640 --> 00:52:39,000
Speaker 3: know that's that's that's where that's the C and up

1121
00:52:39,080 --> 00:52:39,520
Speaker 3: kind of thing.

1122
00:52:39,719 --> 00:52:41,839
Speaker 4: Yeah, okay, how do you find how do you how

1123
00:52:41,840 --> 00:52:43,279
Speaker 4: would you find vcs?

1124
00:52:43,320 --> 00:52:45,359
Speaker 3: The steps to get to a VC, like, to get

1125
00:52:45,360 --> 00:52:48,160
Speaker 3: to that level they have the boxes have to be

1126
00:52:48,239 --> 00:52:50,319
Speaker 3: checked before you could even go to the door. You

1127
00:52:50,360 --> 00:52:52,759
Speaker 3: know what I'm saying. And that's a huge component of

1128
00:52:52,760 --> 00:52:57,800
Speaker 3: all this is like the the sexy awesome answer is hey, boom,

1129
00:52:57,840 --> 00:53:00,480
Speaker 3: So you want to go to Sequoia Capital, you know,

1130
00:53:01,000 --> 00:53:04,680
Speaker 3: out in California, and you want to get them to

1131
00:53:04,719 --> 00:53:08,000
Speaker 3: invest ten million dollars into your app idea, Like that's beautiful,

1132
00:53:08,160 --> 00:53:11,839
Speaker 3: Like absolutely, I truly hope you do that. But you're

1133
00:53:11,880 --> 00:53:15,479
Speaker 3: not going in there with just an app freshly made

1134
00:53:15,480 --> 00:53:18,280
Speaker 3: with nothing attached to it, or no show of traction

1135
00:53:18,760 --> 00:53:21,719
Speaker 3: or even in an earlier round of investment attached to that.

1136
00:53:21,920 --> 00:53:24,120
Speaker 3: You know, like a lot of these places are they're

1137
00:53:24,160 --> 00:53:27,359
Speaker 3: going to piggyback off of you. There's multiple firms can

1138
00:53:27,400 --> 00:53:30,640
Speaker 3: come in on on a single round. Like that's the

1139
00:53:30,680 --> 00:53:33,960
Speaker 3: thing where you don't essentially just go to like boom,

1140
00:53:34,280 --> 00:53:36,840
Speaker 3: this is the idea, Yeah, this is this is the

1141
00:53:36,880 --> 00:53:38,760
Speaker 3: idea is the one people are gonna do it eventually,

1142
00:53:38,760 --> 00:53:42,040
Speaker 3: you know, it gets big enough, like people want to

1143
00:53:42,160 --> 00:53:45,120
Speaker 3: put in forty fifty million dollars into something, Chances are

1144
00:53:45,160 --> 00:53:47,480
Speaker 3: there gonna be a couple hands in that pile. So

1145
00:53:47,480 --> 00:53:49,759
Speaker 3: you've got you said we're going to a right now?

1146
00:53:50,000 --> 00:53:52,839
Speaker 5: Ok yeah, yeah, okay, all right, all right, so quick track.

1147
00:53:52,920 --> 00:53:54,239
Speaker 5: What's the what's the future for that.

1148
00:53:54,560 --> 00:53:56,560
Speaker 3: So so what we're doing right now is what we're

1149
00:53:56,640 --> 00:54:00,000
Speaker 3: very excited about, is, you know, all of us is

1150
00:54:00,000 --> 00:54:03,719
Speaker 3: a team. We kind of started realizing that a lot

1151
00:54:03,719 --> 00:54:07,279
Speaker 3: of these marketplace apps right now, you know, they are

1152
00:54:08,320 --> 00:54:11,120
Speaker 3: they're starting to get a cut out of what everyone does.

1153
00:54:11,520 --> 00:54:14,000
Speaker 3: So whether that be making a logo or you know,

1154
00:54:14,080 --> 00:54:17,960
Speaker 3: putting up a you know, putting up someone's dresser or whatnot,

1155
00:54:18,080 --> 00:54:20,000
Speaker 3: they're starting to take cuts out of that. And they're

1156
00:54:20,040 --> 00:54:22,120
Speaker 3: not just normal cuts. They're taking like thirty to forty

1157
00:54:22,160 --> 00:54:25,600
Speaker 3: percent out of that transaction just for kind of being

1158
00:54:25,600 --> 00:54:29,239
Speaker 3: the intermediary. And so what quick Track wants to do

1159
00:54:29,440 --> 00:54:31,719
Speaker 3: and what we're doing with our next release is we

1160
00:54:31,760 --> 00:54:35,160
Speaker 3: want to make freelancing free again. So a lot of

1161
00:54:35,200 --> 00:54:39,680
Speaker 3: it comes down to, you know, creating that marketplace directory

1162
00:54:39,920 --> 00:54:42,640
Speaker 3: that says, hey, you know, if I'm looking for a

1163
00:54:42,840 --> 00:54:45,439
Speaker 3: if I'm looking for someone to you know, watch my dog,

1164
00:54:45,560 --> 00:54:49,000
Speaker 3: or I'm looking for a yoga instructor or something like that,

1165
00:54:49,280 --> 00:54:51,360
Speaker 3: you could look in there see who's on quick Tracked

1166
00:54:51,360 --> 00:54:54,000
Speaker 3: in your area, who might do that thing. And if

1167
00:54:54,000 --> 00:54:56,840
Speaker 3: you guys link up through there there, we don't touch it.

1168
00:54:56,880 --> 00:54:59,160
Speaker 3: We don't take any money. Out of that because at

1169
00:54:59,160 --> 00:55:01,120
Speaker 3: the end of the day, it's description based service, so

1170
00:55:01,160 --> 00:55:04,839
Speaker 3: we're building it into like the community element. It's yeah,

1171
00:55:04,960 --> 00:55:06,640
Speaker 3: it's it's a huge it's a huge thing to me

1172
00:55:06,719 --> 00:55:10,120
Speaker 3: because look, I mean, something we talked about off air.

1173
00:55:10,960 --> 00:55:13,920
Speaker 3: The reason I don't necessarily think it's fair for these

1174
00:55:14,160 --> 00:55:18,120
Speaker 3: you know, behemoth companies to essentially still take forty percent

1175
00:55:18,239 --> 00:55:22,080
Speaker 3: out of you know, someone's transaction is because let's just say,

1176
00:55:22,120 --> 00:55:25,120
Speaker 3: for whatever reason, that customer didn't have like the most

1177
00:55:25,160 --> 00:55:27,920
Speaker 3: stellar experience doesn't have to be bad. They could be triven,

1178
00:55:27,960 --> 00:55:31,120
Speaker 3: but or like or something actually bad happens. You know,

1179
00:55:31,440 --> 00:55:34,680
Speaker 3: that's that's gonna come down on the provider's head, not

1180
00:55:34,800 --> 00:55:36,799
Speaker 3: on the company. The company all right under the next

1181
00:55:36,840 --> 00:55:39,880
Speaker 3: we'll grab someone else. Yeah, but you know that that

1182
00:55:40,000 --> 00:55:41,920
Speaker 3: is a huge component of this to me because at

1183
00:55:41,920 --> 00:55:43,840
Speaker 3: the end of the day, you know, let's say you

1184
00:55:44,000 --> 00:55:45,879
Speaker 3: you got a dog walker, use one of the dog

1185
00:55:45,920 --> 00:55:48,400
Speaker 3: walking apps and you're like boom, like I like this

1186
00:55:48,440 --> 00:55:51,200
Speaker 3: person to take my dog out. This is great if

1187
00:55:51,239 --> 00:55:53,719
Speaker 3: you want to keep using that same person. You know,

1188
00:55:53,840 --> 00:55:55,560
Speaker 3: those apps they are automated, so they don't let you

1189
00:55:55,600 --> 00:55:57,279
Speaker 3: do that. Like it's whoever, you know, you just kind

1190
00:55:57,280 --> 00:56:00,000
Speaker 3: of it's like uber, right, but let's say you you

1191
00:56:00,120 --> 00:56:01,560
Speaker 3: like the guy you have or this is the way

1192
00:56:01,600 --> 00:56:05,719
Speaker 3: I do something like you can sideswipe the transaction feed,

1193
00:56:05,920 --> 00:56:08,000
Speaker 3: you can come together. You could have something legally binding

1194
00:56:08,040 --> 00:56:10,440
Speaker 3: with quick Track that you know, for the duration of

1195
00:56:10,480 --> 00:56:12,440
Speaker 3: the agreement. You could also pay and get paid through

1196
00:56:12,480 --> 00:56:12,840
Speaker 3: the app.

1197
00:56:13,320 --> 00:56:16,600
Speaker 5: So how can the people contact you? How can they?

1198
00:56:18,600 --> 00:56:18,719
Speaker 4: So?

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00:56:19,000 --> 00:56:24,160
Speaker 3: Quick Track is on Instagram, on everything's just quick Tracked app.

1200
00:56:24,200 --> 00:56:28,000
Speaker 3: That's q U I K T R A c T app.

1201
00:56:29,120 --> 00:56:31,920
Speaker 3: We're on everything there, quick track dot com, find us

1202
00:56:31,920 --> 00:56:35,680
Speaker 3: in the app store and Google Play. Yeah. Those I mean,

1203
00:56:35,840 --> 00:56:38,360
Speaker 3: unless I forgot some of those, those are all the

1204
00:56:38,440 --> 00:56:43,240
Speaker 3: methods Facebook, Twitter, Yeah, what every other one?

1205
00:56:43,600 --> 00:56:46,520
Speaker 5: All right? Cool? Cool? Well, first of all, we weren't

1206
00:56:46,560 --> 00:56:47,880
Speaker 5: thank you for coming, of course.

1207
00:56:47,640 --> 00:56:50,520
Speaker 3: Man, appreciate it. Your alumni, I appreciate you. I appreciate it.

1208
00:56:50,600 --> 00:56:51,080
Speaker 3: Appreciate it.

1209
00:56:51,760 --> 00:56:54,960
Speaker 5: Yeah for coming, man, we appreciate it.

1210
00:56:55,040 --> 00:56:57,080
Speaker 4: You know, checking something that a lot of times we

1211
00:56:57,080 --> 00:57:00,160
Speaker 4: don't know anything about. Andy's something that even object out.

1212
00:57:00,320 --> 00:57:02,720
Speaker 4: He's doing a great job as far as introducing into athletes.

1213
00:57:03,360 --> 00:57:06,359
Speaker 4: But it's still like, I feel like people have no

1214
00:57:06,480 --> 00:57:08,840
Speaker 4: idea about any of this stuff, Like it's like a

1215
00:57:08,880 --> 00:57:11,719
Speaker 4: foreign language. And like I said, that's one of the

1216
00:57:11,800 --> 00:57:14,520
Speaker 4: reasons why we.

1217
00:57:13,480 --> 00:57:15,480
Speaker 5: Wasn't successful is that we just didn't know.

1218
00:57:15,600 --> 00:57:17,280
Speaker 4: We didn't We was just trying to figure it out

1219
00:57:17,320 --> 00:57:20,560
Speaker 4: as we go as we went, and we failed. So,

1220
00:57:21,440 --> 00:57:25,080
Speaker 4: you know, more information, knowledge is power, hopefully, you know,

1221
00:57:25,160 --> 00:57:26,840
Speaker 4: even if somebody can just get a little bit of

1222
00:57:26,920 --> 00:57:29,920
Speaker 4: information from it now that you can actually learn and research,

1223
00:57:29,960 --> 00:57:32,919
Speaker 4: but you'll have some background on it, because you can't

1224
00:57:32,920 --> 00:57:35,400
Speaker 4: really learn about this stuff anywhere and like school and

1225
00:57:35,400 --> 00:57:37,200
Speaker 4: stuff like that. For the most part, especially on the

1226
00:57:37,240 --> 00:57:41,000
Speaker 4: entrepreneurial side, they might teach you like technology, but as

1227
00:57:41,000 --> 00:57:43,720
Speaker 4: far as how to get it up and running, you

1228
00:57:43,760 --> 00:57:44,160
Speaker 4: don't know.

1229
00:57:44,280 --> 00:57:46,640
Speaker 5: You just kind of like got to watch YouTube or Google.

1230
00:57:46,680 --> 00:57:50,520
Speaker 3: And the putting two and two together is the thing

1231
00:57:50,520 --> 00:57:52,720
Speaker 3: that's lacking right now is they could, like I said,

1232
00:57:52,720 --> 00:57:54,800
Speaker 3: I can teach you how to code. I could. I can't,

1233
00:57:54,840 --> 00:57:57,440
Speaker 3: but someone could teach you how to code. And that's great.

1234
00:57:57,560 --> 00:57:59,960
Speaker 3: But you know, the but from taking this and make

1235
00:58:00,240 --> 00:58:03,200
Speaker 3: that that transition from what I'm saying, that's that's where

1236
00:58:03,240 --> 00:58:05,280
Speaker 3: people you know, that's where that's a lot of trial

1237
00:58:05,320 --> 00:58:05,720
Speaker 3: and error.

1238
00:58:05,800 --> 00:58:07,800
Speaker 5: Yeah, that's a fact. That's a fact. So all right,

1239
00:58:07,960 --> 00:58:09,760
Speaker 5: Troy Housekeeping.

1240
00:58:09,400 --> 00:58:09,840
Speaker 3: Yeah, man.

1241
00:58:09,920 --> 00:58:12,320
Speaker 2: Patreon dot com backslash Ernialsia.

1242
00:58:13,040 --> 00:58:13,240
Speaker 3: You know.

1243
00:58:13,360 --> 00:58:17,120
Speaker 2: Patreon, we're growing every week we get new members and

1244
00:58:17,200 --> 00:58:18,600
Speaker 2: like I said, it's just a way to support the

1245
00:58:18,600 --> 00:58:21,960
Speaker 2: podcast so that we can, you know, push certain initiatives

1246
00:58:22,000 --> 00:58:23,959
Speaker 2: in your area. We got a lot of people reaching

1247
00:58:23,960 --> 00:58:26,080
Speaker 2: out to us asking how can they help. Patreon is

1248
00:58:26,120 --> 00:58:28,480
Speaker 2: one of those ways, and it's good because we get

1249
00:58:28,480 --> 00:58:32,320
Speaker 2: to talk to our patrons directly. So we've had Sanna

1250
00:58:32,480 --> 00:58:36,200
Speaker 2: who's been a great patron, and Vicki we've scheduled a

1251
00:58:36,240 --> 00:58:39,160
Speaker 2: call with her. Charles Tony we spoke about last week.

1252
00:58:39,200 --> 00:58:41,720
Speaker 2: We had an amazing conversation with Uh and we got

1253
00:58:41,720 --> 00:58:43,520
Speaker 2: some new ones this week. So Mercy shout out to

1254
00:58:43,560 --> 00:58:48,480
Speaker 2: her and Dijon Uh and Brenda who literally joined right

1255
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Speaker 2: before we came.

1256
00:58:49,200 --> 00:58:50,720
Speaker 3: On to film this episode.

1257
00:58:50,720 --> 00:58:52,880
Speaker 2: And she said her sons listen and I think one

1258
00:58:52,880 --> 00:58:54,400
Speaker 2: of them plays football and one wants to be a

1259
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Speaker 2: sports agent.

1260
00:58:55,040 --> 00:58:56,040
Speaker 3: So shout out to her.

1261
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Speaker 2: She asked a small request that that we're actually going

1262
00:58:59,480 --> 00:59:01,280
Speaker 2: to fulfill in next companie. I want to give it away,

1263
00:59:01,280 --> 00:59:04,360
Speaker 2: but Branda, we got exactly what you you sent. The

1264
00:59:04,400 --> 00:59:07,760
Speaker 2: message about the episode is coming probably in the next

1265
00:59:07,760 --> 00:59:10,200
Speaker 2: two weeks. So shout out to her for joining and

1266
00:59:10,280 --> 00:59:13,640
Speaker 2: everybody that's been supporting the podcast, whether through Patreon, through

1267
00:59:13,800 --> 00:59:16,920
Speaker 2: any leisure dot com, wearing the merch, thank you for

1268
00:59:16,960 --> 00:59:19,919
Speaker 2: your support. It's growing, man, So thank you for growing

1269
00:59:19,960 --> 00:59:20,320
Speaker 2: with us.

1270
00:59:20,640 --> 00:59:23,400
Speaker 5: Yeah, yeah, the merchan. You know, I got my emoji

1271
00:59:23,440 --> 00:59:23,800
Speaker 5: shirt on.

1272
00:59:26,960 --> 00:59:28,120
Speaker 3: I got mine over there.

1273
00:59:29,920 --> 00:59:33,120
Speaker 5: For sure. So yeah, we want to you know, thank

1274
00:59:33,120 --> 00:59:33,680
Speaker 5: you for coming on.

1275
00:59:34,160 --> 00:59:35,800
Speaker 4: Man. The bookship of the week is going to be

1276
00:59:35,840 --> 00:59:39,720
Speaker 4: since we talked about tech, Steve jobs biography. That was

1277
00:59:39,760 --> 00:59:41,800
Speaker 4: a great book I read. I forget the name of it.

1278
00:59:41,880 --> 00:59:43,880
Speaker 4: I think it was called Jobs. That's the name of it.

1279
00:59:43,880 --> 00:59:47,160
Speaker 4: It's called Jobs, And I highly recommend the book because

1280
00:59:47,200 --> 00:59:52,040
Speaker 4: it talked, it outlined his journey and it's interesting.

1281
00:59:51,720 --> 00:59:53,360
Speaker 5: And he's a pretty complicated guy.

1282
00:59:53,720 --> 00:59:55,760
Speaker 4: But the tech, you know, since we're talking about tech,

1283
00:59:55,800 --> 00:59:58,200
Speaker 4: I think that's an appropriate book for entrepreneurs with people

1284
00:59:58,640 --> 00:59:59,880
Speaker 4: interested in business too.

1285
01:00:00,440 --> 01:00:03,160
Speaker 5: He's the Goat's Michael Jordan.

1286
01:00:03,960 --> 01:00:04,800
Speaker 3: I think he did something.

1287
01:00:04,880 --> 01:00:09,240
Speaker 4: Yeah, you're going to learn from anybody that's the guy.

1288
01:00:09,400 --> 01:00:11,280
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, absolutely So.

1289
01:00:11,200 --> 01:00:12,800
Speaker 5: All right, man, thank you for rocking with us. We

1290
01:00:12,800 --> 01:00:13,360
Speaker 5: will see you now.

1291
01:00:13,400 --> 01:00:16,520
Speaker 3: Yeah.

1292
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Speaker 7: An illegal alien from Guatemala charged with raping a child

1293
01:00:20,640 --> 01:00:24,440
Speaker 7: in Massachusetts. An MS thirteen gang member from Al Salvador

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Speaker 7: accused of murdering a Texas man of Venezuelan charged with

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Speaker 7: filming and selling child pornography in Michigan. These are just

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Speaker 7: some of the heinous migrant criminals caught because of President

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Speaker 7: Donald J. Trump's leadership. I'm Christy Noman, the United States

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Speaker 7: Secretary of Homeland Security. Under President Trump, attempted illegal border

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Speaker 7: crossings are at the lowest levels ever recorded, and over

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Speaker 7: one hundred thousand illegal aliens have been arrested. If you

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Speaker 7: are here illegally, your next you will be fine nearly

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Speaker 7: one thousand dollars a day, imprisoned and deported, you will

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Speaker 7: never return. But if you register using our CBP home

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Speaker 7: app and leave now, you could be allowed to return legally.

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Speaker 7: Do what's right. Leave now. Under President Trump, America's laws,

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Speaker 7: border and families will be protected.

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Speaker 3: Sponsored by the United States Department of Homeland Security,