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Speaker 3: Yes, Marvin, remember tomorrow our music theme music acts from

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Speaker 3: the city that you think show he's going to.

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Speaker 2: That's right, that's right. So I'm picking San Francisco. I

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Speaker 2: already have my musical group. Got it now that I

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Speaker 2: had a lot to choose from from the Bay Area,

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Speaker 2: but I already got mine. But everybody has to wherever

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Speaker 2: you think he's going. Of course it fits back to

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Speaker 2: the Angels and Orange County music. Maybe it's Sublime or

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Speaker 2: Gwen Stefani. Yes, San Francisco has a lot. Yeah, holy cow. Yeah.

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Speaker 4: When I hit a couple of heavyweights Slide the Family Stone,

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Speaker 4: Steve Miller Band, Santana, Metallica, I had no idea of

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Speaker 2: Them, Creeden's Clearwater Revival.

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Speaker 4: Dead Kennedy Seaton, Is that correct?

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Speaker 2: Okay? Huey Lewis you love Huey and the News? The

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Speaker 2: news and the News. I do love the News with Hughey. Geez. Yeah.

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Speaker 2: So if he goes back to ain't Anaheim, then he

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Speaker 2: got to pick an Orange County band. There is Blink

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Speaker 2: one eighty two. Are they Orange County? Seaton?

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Speaker 5: I think they're San Diego, San Diego. I think Sublime

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Speaker 5: Los Angeles County. Oh, okay, Los Angeles County. Very upset

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Speaker 5: for suggesting that Sublime would be from Orange County.

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Speaker 2: By bad, very upset. Sorry, sorry, okay, real big fish.

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Speaker 5: Sure, Orange County all day, But how dare you say Sublime?

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Speaker 2: I need to stay in my lane. Need to stay

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Speaker 5: What unusual amount of SKA bands from that area?

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Speaker 2: Okay? We've also been following this other story. We talked

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Speaker 2: about the Jets situation and Zack Wilson's going to play

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Speaker 2: apparently the organization moves on with Zack Wilson and they

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Speaker 2: will face the Texans and then the other situation. After

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Speaker 2: report that there's a lot of turmoil. It's it's rough, rough,

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Speaker 2: MOI waters there Carolina Panthers with what's going on described

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Speaker 2: as hunger games and David Tepper, the owner Panthers owner,

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Speaker 2: what's going on? Backstabbing stuff behind people's back, and Joseph

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Speaker 2: person Joe covers the Carolina Panthers for the Athletic. He

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Speaker 2: was part of this expose on the Carolina Panthers kind

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Speaker 2: enough to join us. By the way, there's a press

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Speaker 2: so Joe is in route to that. Sum up your

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Speaker 6: So, Dan really at root of this, and it's was

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Speaker 6: you know, you remember they had Matt Rule. One of

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Speaker 6: Then I think there weren't those built in loyalties, and

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Speaker 2: How involved is David Tepper with actually game plan play calling.

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Speaker 6: Now, I'm glad you asked that. I mean, he's very

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Speaker 6: But what what he's not in there watching film. I

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Speaker 6: So after Fitter had talked to Reich about that, I

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Speaker 6: But then there was a group that did go talk

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Speaker 6: it's not like Tepper's watching film and calling you know,

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Speaker 6: Frank Reich and others with playtips, but certainly a very

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Speaker 2: What do you think the reaction is going to be

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Speaker 6: Yeah, so I was out here yesterday and I'm sure

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Speaker 6: heard from other people it's like, oh, yeah, that's that's accurate.

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Speaker 6: This is uh, you know, And I think in fairness, Dan,

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Speaker 6: I think a lot of this goes on in a

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Speaker 6: Frank got fired, you know, And I think I think

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Speaker 6: just what accentuated this case is, as I mentioned, there

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Speaker 6: And so when things got bad, as I mentioned, guys

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Speaker 6: getting agitated, not even really by that he was being

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Speaker 6: He was ticked because the mortgaging of the future that

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Speaker 6: And he was watching Bryce Young go out there every

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Speaker 2: Did you get a specified seat? Are you up front?

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Speaker 2: Are you do you want to sit up front today? Joe?

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Speaker 6: You know, this is like, first of all, this was

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Speaker 6: a previously we should mention that this was not like

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Speaker 6: a hastily called press conference workers. This is the offensive coordinator,

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Speaker 6: Thomas Brown. We meet with him every Thursday at this time. Now,

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Speaker 6: I listen when I put my name on a story,

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Speaker 6: and that was a co byline with Diana Rossini, and

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Speaker 6: I know she feels the same way. Yeah, I'm going

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Speaker 6: to show up. I'm going to be there and if

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Speaker 6: anyone's got an issue, we'll talk about it. I mean,

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Speaker 6: I'm not saying I'm like being confrontational, but I'm going

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Speaker 6: to make myself available if if people have issues, let's,

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Speaker 2: I love it, all right, play nice today, there, Joseph,

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Speaker 2: and thanks for joining us.

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Speaker 6: Thanks for having me all da.

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Speaker 2: All right, that's Joe person. He covers Carolina Panthers for

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Speaker 2: the Athletic. Yeah, when the franchise is labeled Hunger Games,

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Speaker 2: that's not good popular movie. But you don't want your

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Speaker 2: franchise to be Lord of the Flies. No, no, no,

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Speaker 2: not a good thing. No good thing. A couple of

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Speaker 2: that nobody said anything. Then Dave Roberts of the Dodgers

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Speaker 2: said something, and now nobody's saying anything after that. Somebody

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Speaker 2: are going to be saying something here real soon. Newton

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Speaker 2: in Richmond, Hey Newton, what's on your mind today?

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Speaker 7: Hey Dan, thanks for taking the call. So I've got

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Speaker 7: a topic that I wanted to talk about real quick,

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Speaker 7: but I wanted to a side note that I really

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Speaker 7: am disappointed that John ram is making the choice he's making,

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Speaker 7: and he is the only one that I will actually miss.

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Speaker 7: Him and Rory are my two favorites, and so I

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Speaker 7: will miss him. But I never watched any of the

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Speaker 7: Live Tour, and I don't miss any of those other guys.

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Speaker 7: But you had made you had made a comment earlier

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Speaker 7: about the problems that the NFL is having with quarterbacks,

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Speaker 7: and my curiosity is, you know how many.

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Speaker 8: Of these injuries are happening in the pocket versus out

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Speaker 8: of the pocket, And I also have an opinion that

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Speaker 8: some of it is I just don't when I watched

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Speaker 8: the game. I'm fifty eight, and I've been watching football

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Speaker 8: fairly consistently since about seventy two or seventy three, and

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Speaker 8: it just seems to me that, like a lot of things,

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Speaker 8: that the quarterback position has been dummied down quite a

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Speaker 8: many prepared quarterbacks as there were when I was younger,

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Speaker 8: And I think that we see fewer good, solid prospects

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Speaker 8: Now I side with the idea that the athletic quarterback

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Speaker 8: is more versatile and brings more to the team, But

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Speaker 8: overall has the position gotten any better as a result

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Speaker 8: of that, Because when you think of people like.

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Speaker 9: Tom with New England, Tom Brady and other quarterbacks who

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Speaker 9: aren't as athletics but had just huge success, and it

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Speaker 9: was more about their smarts and their abilities with their

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Speaker 9: pocket passer. And I'm wondering if those things combined.

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Speaker 2: Well, I think that these kids are going to camps

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Speaker 2: when they're in junior high and high school, they're learning

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Speaker 2: a spread offense, they're learning more quicker and quarterbacks when

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Speaker 2: I was growing up would sometimes sit one or two

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Speaker 2: or three years before they got to play. These quarterbacks

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Speaker 2: are being thrust in there right away. Well, you develop

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Speaker 2: bad habits, you're on a bad team, and then we

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Speaker 2: see bad quarterback play. I think it's systemic because if

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Speaker 2: I got the worst draft, you know, or the number

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Speaker 2: one pick because we were the worst team, I'm going

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Speaker 2: to bring somebody in. I'm going to ask him to

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Speaker 2: be a savior on a team that wasn't good. To

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Speaker 2: begin with, Well, how fair is that to the quarterback?

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Speaker 2: And we've seen quarterbacks flame out because they're not in

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Speaker 2: the right situation. We've seen quarterbacks who thrive because they're

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Speaker 11: After their own franchise contract that they gave Judge a

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Speaker 11: year ago, and then for the Padres, certainly it is

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Speaker 11: a pivot from a standpoint of their payroll. It's going

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Speaker 11: to be lower. They tragically lost their owner, Peter Sidler

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Speaker 11: within the last couple of months. I think it's it's

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Speaker 11: a pivot for their franchise to a lower number and

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Speaker 11: a different level of spending. But they believe Dan that

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Speaker 11: they can still compete as long as Tatis and Machado

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Speaker 11: and Boguards have seasons like they've had in the past,

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Speaker 11: and then they bring in a lot of pitching from

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Speaker 11: the Yankees to fill out what's been a pretty thin

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Speaker 11: rotation as the season has ended.

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Speaker 2: All Right, we played the game yesterday with Otani where

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Speaker 2: he goes? We also did the price todd Oh, you

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Speaker 2: piggybacked mine, I said, I said the San Francisco Giants, Seaton.

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Speaker 2: You said where Otani ends up staying with the Angels?

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Speaker 2: All right? Marvin Dodgers, all right.

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Speaker 11: Paulie Dodgers five sixty five?

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Speaker 2: All right? So John not as a reporter, can you

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Speaker 2: can you just be like, you know, John calling into

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Speaker 2: the Dan Patrick Show. Sure, where do you think? Show? Hey,

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Speaker 2: Otani ends up?

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Speaker 11: John Call from Michigan, fri end of the show. I'm

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Speaker 11: going to agree with Paulie. I'm gonna say Dodgers at

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Speaker 11: five sixty five. I think that was a very very

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Speaker 11: good number, strong prediction. They're still the favorites until someone

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Speaker 11: proves otherwise. But the team again that I think has

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Speaker 11: the second best chance right now to get him is Toronto.

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Speaker 2: John, and Michigan doesn't know anything. If he's agreeing with you,

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Speaker 2: Paul fairpoint, Yeah, what is he doing?

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Speaker 3: Is he going?

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Speaker 2: Good luck there, John, Thanks for joining us as always.

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Speaker 11: Thanks d Happy Hollis to everybody.

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Speaker 2: Thank you so much to John Rossi MLB Network Insider.

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Speaker 2: They have the George Brett documentary tonight on MLB Network

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Speaker 2: at eight eastern. And I have no idea. I don't

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Speaker 2: know if anybody has any idea. And I kind of

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Speaker 2: like that nobody has any idea about this right until

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Speaker 2: it happens. What about if everybody knew, yes, well, I

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Speaker 2: told you last week this was gonna happen. What what

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Speaker 2: if he goes back to the Angels? Go, are you

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Speaker 2: at this point going? Okay, we got to this point

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Speaker 2: now I want him to go someplace else? Or do

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Speaker 2: you go? You know what, it's better for baseball if

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Speaker 2: he goes back to the Angels, which I don't know

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Speaker 2: if it's better. If it's better for baseball, if we

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Speaker 2: see him more often in bigger games, then it's better

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Speaker 2: for baseball. If he goes back, it's better for the Angels.

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Speaker 2: I guess you know, if you can validate spending that

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Speaker 2: kind of money on him, But if you're Showhyu Tani's agent,

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Speaker 2: where do you want him to go? I have to

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Speaker 2: figure marketing plays a role in this. It's not going

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Speaker 2: to be New York, but it's going to be LA,

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Speaker 2: or it could be La. I keep hearing from people saying,

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Speaker 2: don't count out Seattle, Like, okay, haven't heard about Seattle.

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Speaker 2: I've heard about the other teams. Toronto is the interesting

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Speaker 2: one that seems to be the outlier where you're going. Hmm, okay,

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Speaker 2: put him in that lineup. That's an international city, so

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Speaker 2: I you know, I think you can kind of validate

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Speaker 2: that I could see him there. It's just we don't know.

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Speaker 2: He's so private. He wouldn't even tell you his dog's

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Speaker 2: name when he won the MVP, Right, yeah, Hey, what's

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Speaker 2: your dog's name. I'm gonna keep that quiet.

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Speaker 6: I have to.

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Speaker 2: I have to respect his progress.

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Speaker 5: Yes, see, this is why I think he's staying with

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Speaker 5: the Angels. He doesn't have to go through all this

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Speaker 5: stuff anymore. He's already done it. Everybody knows how this works.

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Speaker 5: They're just gonna be happy that he stayed they're gonna

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Speaker 5: give him a bunch of money. Uh, and he gets

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Speaker 5: to go on business as usual in a place that

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Speaker 5: he's very comfortable.

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Speaker 2: Okay, but if this is where he wants to stay,

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Speaker 2: then why do this? If he says, look, I'm willing

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Speaker 2: to stay, I want this, you give me this price,

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Speaker 2: you due diligence, but then you don't have to do

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Speaker 2: the tour. And you know, it's just I want to

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Speaker 2: stay with the Angels. I want to stay with you.

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Speaker 2: If you pay me five sixty five, I'm staying here,

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Speaker 2: then you don't have to go to La or Toronto

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Speaker 2: or the Cubs or the Giant. Then you don't have

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Speaker 2: to go through any of this. So I don't know,

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Speaker 2: it feels like if he has a number, unless he's saying,

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Speaker 2: you know, would be crazy not to have these teams

514
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Speaker 2: bid up the price and then we take it back

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Speaker 2: to the Angels. But if you don't want to go

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Speaker 2: through this, you don't have to go through this. Yeah, pull,

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Speaker 2: I always.

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Speaker 4: Wonder if an agent in this situation, asked Sotani, which

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Speaker 4: place will make you the most happy, because if he answers,

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Speaker 4: the place that offers the least amount of money. As

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Speaker 4: an agent, you don't want to hear that answer. As

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Speaker 4: an agent, my guess is an agent leans towards the

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Speaker 4: biggest offer because then they get the next client off

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Speaker 4: that offer. I always like to see how behind the

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Speaker 4: scenes out agents would work in a situation.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, but I have to know my personality. That person

527
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Speaker 2: I have to know Otani. And there's certain players that

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Speaker 2: didn't do well in New York and their agents did

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Speaker 2: them a disservice because hey, they're paying you all this money,

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Speaker 2: ed witson, you'll get to love New York. Well, No,

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Speaker 2: not necessarily the case. It's a different way of life.

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Speaker 2: Just getting to the ballpark, that's work, dealing with the

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Speaker 2: media fans. So that's where my agent has to know

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Speaker 2: where I would be happiest, and that is I start with,

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Speaker 2: not the money. You're going to get money. Now you're

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Speaker 2: going to you're familiar with this location, or you have

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Speaker 2: somebody former teammates on this team, you like the direction,

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Speaker 2: they're going to be a playoff contender for years to come,

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Speaker 2: or it might just come down to, you know, I

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Speaker 2: don't need the big lights. I'm going to have it,

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Speaker 2: but I don't need it every day. I have a

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Speaker 2: comfortable life in Anaheim. Maybe it comes down to that. Maybe,

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Speaker 2: but John did say that Anaheim's not out of it yet,

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Speaker 2: So that's like, you're kind of in, but are you

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Speaker 2: really in?

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Speaker 4: So yeah, Paul, I'm going to ask you this one

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Speaker 4: if you were in his shoes. If you're a baseball player,

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Speaker 4: would the location matter from a lifestyle living standpoint? Because

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Speaker 4: during the season, you're traveling all the time. Would the

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Speaker 4: actual city you're in matter that much in comparison to

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Speaker 4: maybe an NFL player you practice all the time, you're

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Speaker 4: home much more often, well.

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Speaker 2: Half the season, you're in that town, that city. I

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Speaker 2: would say yes, it would matter. And then do you

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Speaker 2: stay there in the off season. Certain players may play

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Speaker 2: in a cold weather climate in football and then in

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Speaker 2: the off season they live in Vegas or Scottsdale. You know,

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Speaker 2: Jokic goes home, Luca probably, and I don't know if

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Speaker 2: Luca goes home. But I would think that that would

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Speaker 2: matter to me, certainly baseball because of the conditions, the weather.

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Speaker 2: When you're playing in LA you get to play in

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Speaker 2: that environment. Now you go on the road, but you

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Speaker 2: always have Los Angeles to come back and play in

564
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Speaker 2: that kind of climate. I think that that's really important,

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Speaker 2: instead of you're playing on the East Coast and you

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Speaker 2: have to deal with the weather in April and May

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Speaker 2: with Yankee Stadium and the Red Sox. Then later in

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Speaker 2: October when it gets a little icy. Yeah, I think

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Speaker 2: that would matter.

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Speaker 3: Yes, yes, Mark, if he stays with the Angels, he

571
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Speaker 3: doesn't have to worry about October.

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Speaker 2: He does not, He does not. All right, let's take

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Speaker 2: a break, glass goll for phone calls. What we learn,

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Speaker 2: what's in store tomorrow? Make sure you pick up some

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Speaker 2: peppermint moonshine available at Danpatrick dot com. We're back after this.

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Speaker 1: Be sure to catch the live edition of The Dan

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Speaker 1: Patrick Show weekdays at nine am Eastern six am Pacific

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Speaker 1: on Fox Sports Radio and the iHeartRadio WAP.

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Speaker 2: That's the Strokes, Yes, yeah, I was just listening to

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Speaker 2: them yesterday. Many they were a house on fire there

581
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Speaker 2: when they started out. Was that Julian Casablanca's blanket, Big

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Speaker 2: Mets fan? Yeah? Yeah?

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Speaker 6: What we learn?

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Speaker 2: What's in store tomorrow? Todd, I don't know what's going on.

585
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Speaker 2: It's not Friday. You're you're fired up, you're doing your

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Speaker 2: stand up act, you're singing, yelling.

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Speaker 12: I'm told it's the holidays. Tonight's the first night of Hanukah.

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Speaker 12: My kids are coming home next week. I'm in good spirits.

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Speaker 12: Rob Gronkowski is coming on the show tomorrow. We've been

590
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Speaker 12: having a lot of fun and laughs, and I hope

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Speaker 12: we're all in a fun good night. I went to

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Speaker 12: the eurologist yesterday. I got a good report about my

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Speaker 12: kidneys and bladder. Everything's coming up, Roses.

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Speaker 6: What's the big do?

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Speaker 2: Okay? Good?

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Speaker 3: You should have loved with that. Let's all be happy

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Speaker 3: and this is a good time of year to be

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Speaker 3: extra happy.

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Speaker 12: And the medications finally working and seem just covered up

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Speaker 12: the glass with the soccer scar.

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Speaker 2: Oh my god. Okay, just want to make sure I

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Speaker 2: think we're good. I know what.

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Speaker 3: I finally got the meds right.

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Speaker 12: Takes a while.

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Speaker 5: I would disagree with that.

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Speaker 2: I feel bad for the other people in the building

607
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Speaker 2: because Todd keeps going around and he's got this stand

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Speaker 2: up act, and he'll go from room to room and

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Speaker 2: he just keeps.

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Speaker 3: Telling a few things out. I sung the on the

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Speaker 3: Family theme song right before I did the escoreboard.

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Speaker 2: But those guys can't leave, like they're stuck here and

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Speaker 2: they have to listen.

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Speaker 3: To you exactly. They can't walk out and hopefully they

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Speaker 3: won't Boo and Hess. They have to deal with it.

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Speaker 2: Rob Gronkowski will be on the show tomorrow. Last come

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Speaker 2: for phone calls. What we learned. Chad in Wisconsin, Hi Chad,

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Speaker 2: what's on your mind? Hey Chad, Thanks Chad. Maria in Michigan,

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Speaker 2: Hey Maria, Hi, Hi, Hi everybody.

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Speaker 13: I'm glad you took my call. I was surprised I

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Speaker 13: was on, but I came in on the topic when

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Speaker 13: you and Marvin was changing three point shooters in the

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Speaker 13: nineties versus a lot of them now, I didn't hear

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Speaker 13: you mentioned.

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Speaker 7: I wanted to add on to the list.

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Speaker 13: Dennis Scott. He was a three point shooter for the

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Speaker 13: Orlando Magic and of course at the beginning of his

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Speaker 13: career with the Seattle SuperSonics and the Milwaukee Books.

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Speaker 2: Yeah. I love Dennis Gutt. Yeah, three D.

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Speaker 3: Great name, a good magic team.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, Shack Yeah, yeah.

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Speaker 3: Shaq was only two hundred and eighty pounds at that time.

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Speaker 2: Georgia Tech. That's right, Georgia Tech. They had some talent

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Speaker 2: on that team. We three he could he could shoot

635
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Speaker 2: one of the purest shooters. Him and Del Curry, Steph's dad.

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Speaker 2: They were similar. They weren't jumpers. They were more of

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Speaker 2: just a a tippy toe or a set shot type

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Speaker 2: of shooter. But Del Curry was a wonderful shooter, not

639
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Speaker 2: like his son. But who is no, you're right, greatest

640
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Speaker 2: shooter of all time. Jason Kelsey, the Eagles center, he

641
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Speaker 2: was on his podcast with his brother. They were talking

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Speaker 2: about now the commissioner apparently reportedly wants to maybe ban

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Speaker 2: the tush push coming up next season, and here is

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Speaker 2: the Eagles center.

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Speaker 14: Man, I really at this point, I don't care. I'm

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Speaker 14: over the discussion about it.

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Speaker 3: And to be fair, we'd just be banning like the

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Speaker 3: push it in the back. You got everybody still be

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Speaker 3: able to run the key quarterbacky.

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Speaker 14: I think, yeah, well that's where I'm kind of like,

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Speaker 14: you know whatever, just were we were really good at

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Speaker 14: running quarterbacks. Think before we did the push, I don't

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Speaker 14: think that it's a necessary part for it. It certainly helps,

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Speaker 14: there's no question about it. But I think, listen, I

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Speaker 14: just I don't have the energy to care about whether

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Speaker 2: Okay, it feels like, but here's the thing, nobody else

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Speaker 2: can do it as well as they can. And there's

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Speaker 2: a reason they have a very very good offensive line

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Speaker 2: and your quarterback has unbelievable lower body strength. How many

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Speaker 2: other teams are capable of doing this? They do it,

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Speaker 2: They're really successful, and it's almost like the extra point

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Speaker 2: before they moved it. It's like it's automatic and people

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Speaker 2: have it. So can you you do? Quarterback sneaks, I

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Speaker 2: just can't push you from behind? If we do this,

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Speaker 2: could they still accomplish the brotherly shove without somebody behind?

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Speaker 2: Jalen Hurts, I'm guessing they probably could. Just guessing, but

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Speaker 2: I do think it's a football move. I think it's

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Speaker 2: the ultimate football move. I'm telling you exactly what I'm

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Speaker 2: going to do. Try to stop it. It's tug a war.

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Speaker 2: Stop us. You can't. Okay, that's an advantage for us,

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Speaker 2: But that's the only team. I don't know anybody else

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Speaker 2: where they go. Man, they're automatic when they do that.

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Speaker 2: But it feels like the commissioner and plus, keep this

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Speaker 2: in mind, there's somebody from the Cowboys and the Giants

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Speaker 2: in the same division with the Eagles who are on

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Speaker 2: the competition committee. Could that factor in that they vote

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Speaker 2: against the toush push? Perhaps this day in sports history

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Speaker 2: Pauline Woode.

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Speaker 4: Nineteen thirty nine, lou Gerrigt elected the Baseball's Hall of

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Speaker 4: Fame too soon d the blowback. He was the first

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Speaker 4: player to not have to wait a year to be

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Speaker 4: retired to be elected in the Hall of Fame, the

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Speaker 4: waiver because of his health issues. Nineteen sixty three, CBS

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Speaker 4: invented instant replay, first ever used during the Army Navy

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Speaker 4: football game.

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Speaker 2: And this year, like this, Dan, this is for Tomorrow.

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Speaker 4: Nineteen eighty six, Huey Lewis and the News sang the

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Speaker 4: national anthem a cappella before a Niners Jets football game

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Speaker 4: of Candlestick.

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Speaker 2: Okay, uh, headline of off tonight's game. Headline tomorrow off

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Speaker 2: Tonight's game, Todd'll start with you.

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Speaker 3: Backups, make us back out lowest ratings and years.

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Speaker 2: I don't know if we need the voice seat O'Connor.

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Speaker 5: M ummm. I think the headline is going to be

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Speaker 5: hot seat related. Okay, um, Maybe it's a Who's hotter?

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Speaker 3: Okay?

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Speaker 2: Marvin Tomorrow's headline.

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Speaker 3: Today bailed out Patriots a lot of close ones.

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Speaker 4: Pauli Amazon asked NFL if they could flex future Thursday

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Speaker 4: night games.

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Speaker 2: M hm uh zappany dode all day?

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Speaker 3: What a wonderful day?

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Speaker 2: You're plays? Are yourself on that.

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Speaker 3: A little bit?

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Speaker 2: Pretty good?

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Speaker 11: Yeah?

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Speaker 2: Pretty good? Still got it? Still got it? I have zap,

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Speaker 2: Thank you done? Don don stay the hell out of

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Speaker 2: my neighborhood here.

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Speaker 11: And the Santisco Giants gone.

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Speaker 3: I think you said it too.

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Speaker 2: I just crushed.

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Speaker 3: Did your predict Santis?

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Speaker 7: Damn?

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Speaker 3: Not even two minutes?

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Speaker 2: I don't let it Linger, let it linger?

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Speaker 3: She was great. Yeah, I'm such a ful No, no, turn.

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Speaker 2: Off his microphone. He's done forever. Seatan, what did you

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Speaker 2: learn today? Marvin? What did you learn today?

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Speaker 3: Seatan's taking one for the team.

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Speaker 2: Tonight tonightat Oh, yeah's right, he's gonna watch the entire game.

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Speaker 2: I got it, you guys taking that off. Todd, Okay,

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Speaker 2: don't give me MOPy dick there. What did you learn?

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Speaker 12: Peter King says Panther's owner David Tepper is like George

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Speaker 12: Steinberg without the winning.

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Speaker 3: He's a disaster.

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Speaker 2: Paul, what you learn today?

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Speaker 3: Every day?

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Speaker 4: I think Otani's going to a different team, Todd?

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Speaker 2: What did I learn today?

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Speaker 11: MLB next?

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Speaker 3: John Marcy believes the final group. I have a good

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Speaker 3: shot at show.

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Speaker 12: Hey will be the Dodgers, Blue Jays, Giants, Cubs, or

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Speaker 12: he stays in Anaheim.

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