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Speaker 1: What Is Up? Mets fans, Welcome back to another episode

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Speaker 1: of the Mets Up Podcast. What a horrible series in Cincinnati.

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Speaker 1: I mean, I guess it could have been worse. At

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Speaker 1: least we won one, but ugh, I honestly, James, I

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Speaker 1: might have to blame you. Might have to blame you.

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Speaker 1: We didn't give a full in depth pitching scouting report

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Speaker 1: as we normally do, so I'm just saying.

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Speaker 2: I agree with that, but you also kind of push

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Speaker 2: the conversation elsewhere during the series preview last week.

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Speaker 1: To be fair, it's on both of us, hand up,

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Speaker 1: both of us. We take full responsibility. It's thought Eric

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Speaker 1: Schabas's fault, never was, never will be. But bad series

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Speaker 1: not great. We did see the debut of Brandon Sprote,

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Speaker 1: we saw Jonah tom make a second MLB debut, and

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Speaker 1: we saw Dim Peterson pitch on Friday Night, so it's

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Speaker 1: there's some things to talk about. I don't know, it's

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Speaker 1: annoying to lose this series. I really was hoping that

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Speaker 1: after a little bit of the one PM slate of

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Speaker 1: NFL games we'd be a little happier than this because

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Speaker 1: the Mets would have maybe won the series. But that's

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Speaker 1: not the case. So of course, as always, make sure

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Speaker 1: and subscribe. But James, you said it, well, terrible series,

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Speaker 1: not great.

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Speaker 2: No, I would even argue the Mets didn't deserve to

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Speaker 2: win any of these games, which doesn't feel good to

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Speaker 2: say afterwards. You've blown the tiebreaker against the Reds with

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Speaker 2: the Giants have surge passed the Wildcot standings.

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Speaker 1: But now, just the way you play in.

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Speaker 2: This series, this kind of means that we are going

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Speaker 2: to have to really grind out this last month of

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Speaker 2: the season. There will not be a moment to rest

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Speaker 2: now the Giant Oh, the Diyingbacks. We've stormed to have

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Speaker 2: the Reds. This is crazy, like those two teams are

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Speaker 2: actually somehow scalding hot. We no longer have a tie

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Speaker 2: breaker over the Reds. It's just it was bad, like

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Speaker 2: miracle to win the game on Friday. Have a lot

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Speaker 2: to say about Tom and Sprope. We will save that

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Speaker 2: for a little bit later and get more in depth.

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Speaker 2: And that Saturday game I think was one of the

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Speaker 2: most frustrating because didn't really ever feel like Brady Singer

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Speaker 2: like had much like it's just again Slyther sweepers, sinkers

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Speaker 2: he couldn't really sustain anything. I know, Tom gave up

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Speaker 2: the home runs again. We'll talk about that. Then Ryan

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Speaker 2: Stanley comes into high leverage for the second day in

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Speaker 2: a row. Pitch is horrifically bad and it's just like bad.

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Speaker 1: That wasn't it?

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Speaker 2: Just that the way that game on Saturday got away

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Speaker 2: was really frustrating, knowing that the Reds had Hunter Green

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Speaker 2: waiting today and you knew you weren't going to hit him,

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Speaker 2: and that's fine. You hip the cap to Hunter Green.

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Speaker 2: He's a marvel to watch pitch, but there wasn't the

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Speaker 2: I don't even know, it's that urgency, like it just

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Speaker 2: didn't you didn't. They didn't have a lot of oom

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Speaker 1: The whole thing didn't feel that great. No, there was

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Speaker 1: no juice. This entire series just kind of had no

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Speaker 1: juice for the Mets. And this is a weird common

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Speaker 1: thing that we've seen when when this team hits the road,

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Speaker 1: they just do not have the same intensity, They don't

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Speaker 1: play excellent baseball. When the Mets are at home, one

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Speaker 2: Yeah, where you've dropped in nine games under five hundred

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Speaker 2: this isn't like exactly an anomaly among good teams. But yes,

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Speaker 2: it's disappointing when this happens. When again, I called this

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Speaker 2: have a chance to kill team, like if you could

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Speaker 2: Sweeping them, you destroy them, You would have killed them.

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Speaker 2: Their season would be absolutely over. And now it's not.

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Speaker 2: They're all they're very alive still and same the Giants,

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Speaker 1: Like it's a very it's become much more uncomfortable spot.

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Speaker 2: For this Mets team because of how poorly they played Yeah,

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Speaker 2: we're gonna do a little scoreboard watching during this podcast,

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Speaker 2: because right now the Giants are down four to three

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Speaker 1: Shout the Cardinals for winning on Saturday night as well.

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Speaker 1: That was insane that they came back and won that game.

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Speaker 1: But at the exact moment we're talking right now, Metro

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Speaker 2: But luckily against three of those four teams. No, wait,

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Speaker 2: I don't remember the car to Carlins, likek, we split

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Speaker 1: I don't know how to think I split with that, Yeah,

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Speaker 2: Yeah, but we have the tiebreakover both the Giants and

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Speaker 1: We did both the Dinmebacks last year.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, both series we played against them were terrible looking back, like,

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Speaker 2: Bad baseball in the second half, but that, especially that

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Speaker 2: The series, you talk about a miracle edwin.

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Speaker 1: Diaz loaded the bases without getting a single out and

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Speaker 1: There's no the like middle ground for this team has

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Speaker 1: It's either been the best team in baseball or one

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Speaker 2: I hate looking back at things, just all the little

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Speaker 2: the Marlins, the Nationals. It seems like we have these

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Speaker 2: I don't feel that. It's not that I don't feel

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I think the Mets are a playoff team. I

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Speaker 1: But we go Philly the next series. We have four

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Speaker 2: And you felt like they were coming to this series hot.

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Speaker 2: The three runs in the first standing strung that rally

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Speaker 1: Yeah, it's bad. This is not good enough.

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Speaker 2: And again absolutely absolve for not being able to score

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Speaker 1: But they singer nothing, and we were pretty sick. Bradish

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Speaker 1: Singer's never had anything. He's never been a.

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Speaker 2: Picture that is filed Braid Singer hanging around forever like

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Speaker 2: but you've been on him. You should be hitting Brady Singer.

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Speaker 2: It's crazy that did in jump all over him.

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Speaker 2: Tons of chances that those two just left left Army

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I feel good like he deserves another shot in

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Speaker 2: gassing out one hundred hundred wall when he was nearing

434
00:16:51,640 --> 00:16:53,920
Speaker 2: one hundred pitches Like that's that's the kind of guy

435
00:16:53,960 --> 00:16:55,880
Speaker 2: doesn't really exist on most major league teams.

436
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Speaker 1: Like good for the Reds. They have him because he's

437
00:16:57,320 --> 00:16:59,280
Speaker 1: a menace. Talk to me a little bit about Joanah

438
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Speaker 1: Tong because I think I think we need to throw

439
00:17:01,960 --> 00:17:03,800
Speaker 1: a little bit of water on what I think some

440
00:17:03,880 --> 00:17:05,879
Speaker 1: Mets fans could be thinking about Jonah Tong right now,

441
00:17:05,880 --> 00:17:07,760
Speaker 1: because I think when you see him give up all

442
00:17:07,760 --> 00:17:09,880
Speaker 1: those home runs in that game, you get a little

443
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Speaker 1: bit disappointed in the kind of player that he is.

444
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Speaker 1: But still, I think behind the curtain, the stuff looked

445
00:17:14,480 --> 00:17:14,920
Speaker 1: really good.

446
00:17:14,960 --> 00:17:17,400
Speaker 2: Still, I almost thought there rattlements that he did better

447
00:17:17,400 --> 00:17:19,280
Speaker 2: in this game than the first start. Truthfully, like I

448
00:17:19,280 --> 00:17:21,480
Speaker 2: think think the fact that he was elevating that fastball

449
00:17:21,600 --> 00:17:23,560
Speaker 2: more consistently, he was getting more swings and miss on.

450
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Speaker 1: It was cool.

451
00:17:24,320 --> 00:17:25,919
Speaker 2: The home runs are just going to kind of be

452
00:17:25,960 --> 00:17:29,200
Speaker 2: part of the Jonah Toong's game, especially guy I said

453
00:17:29,200 --> 00:17:30,879
Speaker 2: that on Twitter and people jumping down my throw with

454
00:17:30,960 --> 00:17:32,760
Speaker 2: you means part of his game. He's supposed to be good,

455
00:17:32,800 --> 00:17:34,840
Speaker 2: but that when you throw that kind of high spin

456
00:17:34,880 --> 00:17:37,359
Speaker 2: efficiency fastball with that vertical action top of the zone,

457
00:17:37,520 --> 00:17:40,000
Speaker 2: hitters are often getting under the ball, so you sometimes

458
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Speaker 2: you swing.

459
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Speaker 1: Under the ball.

460
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Speaker 2: Sometimes you get under and pop it up, like we

461
00:17:42,480 --> 00:17:43,880
Speaker 2: saw a lot in that Models game. If you score

462
00:17:43,880 --> 00:17:46,199
Speaker 2: it up a teeny bit, well enough, it's easy to

463
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Speaker 2: go out. And I think that the McLain home run,

464
00:17:48,760 --> 00:17:51,240
Speaker 2: it was an example of where Tom, especially in a

465
00:17:51,240 --> 00:17:52,760
Speaker 2: park like this, we don't play our home games here,

466
00:17:52,800 --> 00:17:54,640
Speaker 2: to play home game city fields very different. That Matt

467
00:17:54,680 --> 00:17:56,480
Speaker 2: McLain home run was now a home run city field.

468
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Speaker 2: I think the other two were though Stus Stewart's was

469
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Speaker 2: pretty well strung. What was destroyed, Yeah, they smoked those balls.

470
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Speaker 1: Those two were also less. I mean the Stewart went

471
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Speaker 1: also with high in the zone.

472
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Speaker 2: The mclaim one was hide in the zone, alstin haze

473
00:18:06,760 --> 00:18:07,760
Speaker 2: one was right down and it was just a bad

474
00:18:07,760 --> 00:18:08,560
Speaker 2: pitch and he got murdered.

475
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Speaker 1: But the McClain one just it was high. It was

476
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Speaker 1: a decent spot.

477
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Speaker 2: He just got just enough of the bat on it

478
00:18:13,119 --> 00:18:15,520
Speaker 2: to get enough backs on the batted ball to get

479
00:18:15,560 --> 00:18:18,720
Speaker 2: that ball out. But the Stewart won high fast on zone.

480
00:18:18,720 --> 00:18:19,800
Speaker 2: He just got his barrel and it was more of

481
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Speaker 2: a good piece of hitting from him. But that's just

482
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Speaker 2: besides those home runs he felt, I mean again, besides

483
00:18:24,440 --> 00:18:26,399
Speaker 2: those home runs, like this guy, besides his fucking home runs.

484
00:18:26,480 --> 00:18:29,920
Speaker 2: But like there were still the moments of dominance, and

485
00:18:29,960 --> 00:18:31,680
Speaker 2: there was still was the fact that not many people

486
00:18:31,720 --> 00:18:32,879
Speaker 2: were in based of those home runs. To give up

487
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Speaker 2: three home runs, only allowed four runs, to still pitch

488
00:18:34,600 --> 00:18:37,119
Speaker 2: six innings, that shows where the quality is. But these

489
00:18:37,160 --> 00:18:39,280
Speaker 2: home runs, again, when he's throwing these elevated fastballs, that's

490
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Speaker 2: just part of the game.

491
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Speaker 1: I also think, like to like you mentioned, people get

492
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Speaker 1: upset about the home runs, right because, oh my god,

493
00:18:45,080 --> 00:18:49,160
Speaker 1: home run bad. If nobody's on, it's not as dangerous

494
00:18:49,160 --> 00:18:52,680
Speaker 1: as when there're two guys on and not comparing, not comparing.

495
00:18:52,840 --> 00:18:56,360
Speaker 1: But like justin Verlander, Max Scherzer, Garrett Cole, these are

496
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Speaker 1: all guys who never walk anybody. They limit base runners

497
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Speaker 1: in that way. They get us a ton of swing

498
00:19:01,040 --> 00:19:04,080
Speaker 1: and miss a ton of strikeouts. Yeah, and if you look,

499
00:19:04,160 --> 00:19:06,440
Speaker 1: every single year there towards the top of home runs

500
00:19:06,440 --> 00:19:09,159
Speaker 1: given up, but they're solo shots. That's why they're able

501
00:19:09,200 --> 00:19:11,919
Speaker 1: to be these great pictures that they are. Jonah Tong's

502
00:19:12,000 --> 00:19:14,639
Speaker 1: repertoire and his arsenal leads towards that kind of profile

503
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Speaker 1: of giving up the home runs, like you mentioned, But

504
00:19:16,560 --> 00:19:19,639
Speaker 1: if he's not allowing base runners and the stuff is disgusting,

505
00:19:19,680 --> 00:19:22,800
Speaker 1: the pitches are really good. It's okay. You've talked to

506
00:19:22,800 --> 00:19:25,239
Speaker 1: me about this before off the podcast, that Dodgers are

507
00:19:25,280 --> 00:19:27,800
Speaker 1: so scared of giving up home runs that they forced

508
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Speaker 1: their pictures to throw low in the zone because they

509
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Speaker 1: can't really hurt you on one swing as often. That's

510
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Speaker 1: the risk you run with Jonah Tong, who loves us

511
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Speaker 1: to the high fastball totally.

512
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Speaker 2: And again maybe that was probably the game plan for

513
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Speaker 2: that first game against some moments for this game against

514
00:19:39,560 --> 00:19:41,439
Speaker 2: the Reds because elevating that fastball he did get more

515
00:19:41,440 --> 00:19:42,120
Speaker 2: swings and missige.

516
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Speaker 1: Yeah, of course it's a good pitch, and.

517
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Speaker 2: He was still able to tunnel the change up with

518
00:19:45,400 --> 00:19:46,800
Speaker 2: the two and he got tongues of whists on that too.

519
00:19:46,960 --> 00:19:48,760
Speaker 2: But you could see in this start without been telling

520
00:19:48,760 --> 00:19:51,879
Speaker 2: you about the curveball right, Yes, it's almost too slow.

521
00:19:52,119 --> 00:19:53,960
Speaker 2: It's like a little too obvious. They were spinning on

522
00:19:54,000 --> 00:19:56,159
Speaker 2: it very easily. He didn't get one chase out of

523
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Speaker 2: the strike zone on that curve ball. In this entire start,

524
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Speaker 2: we saw the little slother slo either color thing too,

525
00:20:00,840 --> 00:20:03,040
Speaker 2: a little bit like that was something that was so

526
00:20:03,080 --> 00:20:03,760
Speaker 2: at least him.

527
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Speaker 1: Showing the new call them, I think, yeah, I think.

528
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Speaker 2: That was after he got around the line of time

529
00:20:07,359 --> 00:20:08,919
Speaker 2: and a half he started to throw those which but

530
00:20:08,960 --> 00:20:12,080
Speaker 2: again it's just the home runs are a killer when

531
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Speaker 2: we have these starts with Joan Tongue and these ballparks.

532
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Speaker 2: That's why it was nice too. They pushed him back

533
00:20:15,640 --> 00:20:17,800
Speaker 2: to Saturday and not Friday, so I think we were

534
00:20:17,840 --> 00:20:19,439
Speaker 2: openly a bit worried about how he was going to

535
00:20:19,440 --> 00:20:21,680
Speaker 2: pitch in this park, and not that David Peterson and

536
00:20:21,680 --> 00:20:23,600
Speaker 2: bitch weall on Friday. But again just to ease Tongue in,

537
00:20:23,640 --> 00:20:24,920
Speaker 2: to have him take them out we already have a

538
00:20:24,960 --> 00:20:27,320
Speaker 2: win in our hands and still showing the same whimsy

539
00:20:27,320 --> 00:20:28,679
Speaker 2: on the mound, like, still showing the same grit whin

540
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Speaker 2: he gone situations.

541
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Speaker 1: But he was liked. I liked that he showed he

542
00:20:31,320 --> 00:20:32,560
Speaker 1: was a little pissed off at times too.

543
00:20:32,640 --> 00:20:34,560
Speaker 2: Oh, for sure he was. The frustration was real. But

544
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Speaker 2: also because when you throw those fastballs down the middle

545
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Speaker 2: to the.

546
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Speaker 1: Triple at Hithers, that's with pitch. Oh, they can't touch it.

547
00:20:39,320 --> 00:20:41,120
Speaker 2: And when you missed that spot against the major league

548
00:20:41,160 --> 00:20:42,840
Speaker 2: hitherers in a park like this, the ball gets crushed.

549
00:20:42,840 --> 00:20:44,960
Speaker 2: And that's something, especially when the Hithers are always prepared

550
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Speaker 2: for a lot of things that are moving kind of

551
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Speaker 2: fast and kind of straight, like Murphury Hoaks tells us. Yeah,

552
00:20:49,280 --> 00:20:52,520
Speaker 2: which again I think we everybody who listens to the

553
00:20:52,560 --> 00:20:54,720
Speaker 2: podcast knows what Jonah tongu is, knows what these young

554
00:20:54,760 --> 00:20:55,280
Speaker 2: pitchers are.

555
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Speaker 1: It's twenty two years old. I'm still unbelievably excited about

556
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Speaker 1: what the future looks like for him. And like even

557
00:21:00,720 --> 00:21:02,760
Speaker 1: the present, yeah, even the present. Let this be his

558
00:21:02,880 --> 00:21:05,960
Speaker 1: bad start, O six intings. We can't get our veterans

559
00:21:05,960 --> 00:21:07,920
Speaker 1: who are paying twenty million dollars a year ago six

560
00:21:08,000 --> 00:21:10,280
Speaker 1: intings right now? No, literally again like this, he did

561
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Speaker 1: st muddle through the six innings.

562
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Speaker 2: Every Also, every start one of these pitching prospects has made,

563
00:21:14,080 --> 00:21:16,600
Speaker 2: they've completed at least five innings. Every single one of them, yeah,

564
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Speaker 2: and I think Sick Yeah, it's awesome, and Tong the

565
00:21:18,720 --> 00:21:21,560
Speaker 2: one who's actually gone deep the least because Sproke completed six,

566
00:21:21,680 --> 00:21:23,160
Speaker 2: McLean's completed six multiple times.

567
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Speaker 1: Like that part's cool.

568
00:21:23,880 --> 00:21:25,760
Speaker 2: I'm interested to see, though, now as we keep moving

569
00:21:26,760 --> 00:21:29,000
Speaker 2: with this schedule, how it lines up for these guys

570
00:21:29,080 --> 00:21:31,560
Speaker 2: very differently, Like we're throwing the way we've reshuffled. Mclin's

571
00:21:31,560 --> 00:21:33,240
Speaker 2: been thrown into the fire, like he's starting in Game

572
00:21:33,280 --> 00:21:35,760
Speaker 2: one in Philadelphia and he's going to face the Rangers,

573
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Speaker 2: so their offense isn't really the same without Seeger and

574
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Speaker 2: what's it called without Seeger?

575
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Speaker 1: And and to sent me in right now?

576
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Speaker 2: And then at the end of the season, I'm really

577
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Speaker 2: looking at that Cup series that's going to be a

578
00:21:44,920 --> 00:21:47,080
Speaker 2: critical series because the linees up that it's I think

579
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Speaker 2: Sprot's going to miss that series, but Tom's going to

580
00:21:49,720 --> 00:21:51,960
Speaker 2: get that series. So I think that's going to long

581
00:21:52,359 --> 00:21:54,280
Speaker 2: In Chicago, we don't know what the weather's going to be,

582
00:21:54,320 --> 00:21:54,760
Speaker 2: like the win.

583
00:21:54,720 --> 00:21:55,640
Speaker 1: Can change everything there.

584
00:21:55,720 --> 00:21:58,320
Speaker 2: But I'm really intrigued to see how Joe and Tong

585
00:21:58,400 --> 00:22:00,480
Speaker 2: response this adversity, because he's never faced adversity. Is a

586
00:22:00,480 --> 00:22:03,760
Speaker 2: professional baseball player never literally not once to every level

587
00:22:03,760 --> 00:22:04,280
Speaker 2: of minor league.

588
00:22:04,320 --> 00:22:05,280
Speaker 1: Is the fastball been good enough?

589
00:22:05,280 --> 00:22:07,520
Speaker 2: And you saw him be like, I'm going to put

590
00:22:07,560 --> 00:22:09,440
Speaker 2: my head down and get through the line at one

591
00:22:09,440 --> 00:22:10,560
Speaker 2: time just with fastballs.

592
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Speaker 1: It didn't exactly works.

593
00:22:11,600 --> 00:22:13,760
Speaker 2: Maybe this adjustment next time, but it's interesting to watch

594
00:22:13,840 --> 00:22:15,760
Speaker 2: these guys grow and learn on the fly.

595
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Speaker 1: No, I'm I'm very encouraged. Again, Like sprot wasn't perfect,

596
00:22:19,720 --> 00:22:21,639
Speaker 1: tongue wasn't perfect, But there are things that you can

597
00:22:21,720 --> 00:22:25,200
Speaker 1: see that are really exciting about these guys. Again, seven

598
00:22:25,200 --> 00:22:28,040
Speaker 1: strikeouts was awesome, that's sick. It wasn't then three of

599
00:22:28,080 --> 00:22:29,040
Speaker 1: them come in that sixth ending.

600
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Speaker 2: Yeah, Like he clearly has a little bit of dog

601
00:22:31,840 --> 00:22:34,480
Speaker 2: in him. I have no doubt for sure that sec boy.

602
00:22:34,480 --> 00:22:34,800
Speaker 1: You love that.

603
00:22:34,840 --> 00:22:36,880
Speaker 2: And also like Fret Baby tried to ola that really

604
00:22:36,920 --> 00:22:39,400
Speaker 2: hard ground ball that let Eli daylo cs in. Also

605
00:22:39,480 --> 00:22:42,520
Speaker 2: Jeff McNeil throw home when the runner was clearly safe.

606
00:22:42,560 --> 00:22:44,480
Speaker 2: You give Elliot an extra base if that run doesn't

607
00:22:44,480 --> 00:22:44,760
Speaker 2: come home.

608
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Speaker 1: We might be having very different conversation defenses back. You know, No,

609
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Speaker 1: Bret Baby's playing in. I'm saying if Ellie's on second,

610
00:22:50,560 --> 00:22:53,640
Speaker 1: he's probably he's not and then he's a very easy play. Yeah.

611
00:22:53,760 --> 00:22:55,480
Speaker 2: Also again like it was, it was a bang Bank play.

612
00:22:55,480 --> 00:22:56,240
Speaker 2: It was a difficult play.

613
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Speaker 1: Ones.

614
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Speaker 2: I do wish you would have made one that I

615
00:22:57,640 --> 00:23:00,040
Speaker 2: did expect him to make honestly off the bat, but

616
00:23:00,080 --> 00:23:02,240
Speaker 2: that those are little things that you wish you could

617
00:23:02,280 --> 00:23:03,800
Speaker 2: get more right in a game like this, because this

618
00:23:03,880 --> 00:23:06,200
Speaker 2: is such an important game, and you know, if it's

619
00:23:06,200 --> 00:23:07,760
Speaker 2: a one run game in that ballpark, you always have

620
00:23:07,800 --> 00:23:08,720
Speaker 2: a shot to come back into it.

621
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Speaker 1: And it just wasn't. That was the problem. Yeah, pop

622
00:23:10,920 --> 00:23:12,639
Speaker 1: ups in that ballpark go out for home runs. Just

623
00:23:12,960 --> 00:23:15,159
Speaker 1: it sucks. It sucks to lose the series like this

624
00:23:15,240 --> 00:23:18,080
Speaker 1: because I mean, like you said, so lucky we didn't

625
00:23:18,080 --> 00:23:21,359
Speaker 1: get swept, really didn't deserve it. But at the same time,

626
00:23:21,680 --> 00:23:24,560
Speaker 1: this team has to wake up on the road. I

627
00:23:24,600 --> 00:23:26,880
Speaker 1: know they're not alone. You mentioned the Dodgers and the Padres,

628
00:23:26,960 --> 00:23:29,520
Speaker 1: but if you want to win a World Series or

629
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Speaker 1: even have a chance to win a playoff series, you

630
00:23:31,400 --> 00:23:33,679
Speaker 1: gotta win some games on a road, more games on

631
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Speaker 1: the road. The fact that with this far, I mean,

632
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Speaker 1: I'm not gonna say it's like.

633
00:23:36,960 --> 00:23:38,679
Speaker 2: That concerning because you get in too. If you do

634
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Speaker 2: get into a playoff series. I think everything is just different.

635
00:23:41,160 --> 00:23:41,439
Speaker 1: That's it.

636
00:23:42,200 --> 00:23:43,639
Speaker 2: I know these guys can win a game on the road,

637
00:23:43,640 --> 00:23:44,760
Speaker 2: they can win a game at home, They win the

638
00:23:44,760 --> 00:23:46,440
Speaker 2: game anywhere you want, with football park you want to play.

639
00:23:46,440 --> 00:23:47,679
Speaker 2: I think these guys can win a game. But it's

640
00:23:47,720 --> 00:23:50,120
Speaker 2: just it's about the maintaining the energy in these on.

641
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Speaker 1: These road trips. And now there's a big series come up.

642
00:23:52,680 --> 00:23:54,240
Speaker 2: There's something more SO want to talk about, but it's like,

643
00:23:54,240 --> 00:23:56,760
Speaker 2: it's I don't know, you felt like you had something

644
00:23:56,800 --> 00:23:58,320
Speaker 2: after that game on Friday, and you feel like you

645
00:23:58,359 --> 00:23:59,080
Speaker 2: lost it quick.

646
00:23:59,359 --> 00:24:02,280
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean Edwin Diaz got out of there in

647
00:24:02,320 --> 00:24:05,359
Speaker 1: a miracle. There's it's I still don't really understand fully

648
00:24:05,400 --> 00:24:08,359
Speaker 1: how he got out of that ending because he changed

649
00:24:08,400 --> 00:24:11,479
Speaker 1: his shoes, he changes cleats. You ever seen that before?

650
00:24:11,520 --> 00:24:12,080
Speaker 1: I haven't.

651
00:24:12,520 --> 00:24:15,200
Speaker 2: I texted my dad and my friend's dad shoutout mister

652
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Speaker 2: Orow because we all have a group chat together, and

653
00:24:16,520 --> 00:24:17,960
Speaker 2: I was like, literally, you guys have watched a lot

654
00:24:17,960 --> 00:24:19,840
Speaker 2: more baseball than I have. Have you ever seen this?

655
00:24:19,880 --> 00:24:21,919
Speaker 2: They were both like absolutely not. Can I read you

656
00:24:22,000 --> 00:24:23,960
Speaker 2: on when I wrote for the World about that ninth

657
00:24:24,040 --> 00:24:27,679
Speaker 2: nning and Edward dies, Oh here it was crazy. So

658
00:24:27,720 --> 00:24:30,160
Speaker 2: this is me posting for officially NBC Sports for the world.

659
00:24:30,200 --> 00:24:31,879
Speaker 2: You guys could probably tell if you read those updates

660
00:24:32,040 --> 00:24:33,600
Speaker 2: which ones are misuse. I really put some of our

661
00:24:33,640 --> 00:24:37,200
Speaker 2: bits into there. Simply put Edward Diez an adrenaline junkie

662
00:24:37,280 --> 00:24:39,560
Speaker 2: arrat Is cabrian Is in the single started the ninth

663
00:24:39,600 --> 00:24:41,240
Speaker 2: and Diez walked the next two battis to load the

664
00:24:41,280 --> 00:24:43,920
Speaker 2: bases with no outs in a one run game. Then

665
00:24:43,920 --> 00:24:46,000
Speaker 2: some weird things began to happen. Di has managed to

666
00:24:46,000 --> 00:24:47,760
Speaker 2: strike out in Weelvi Marte have to catch up. Francisco

667
00:24:47,800 --> 00:24:49,320
Speaker 2: Oliver stopped the game for a minute to adjust his

668
00:24:49,359 --> 00:24:49,840
Speaker 2: hat and mask.

669
00:24:50,080 --> 00:24:51,760
Speaker 1: That was very forgotten, so strange.

670
00:24:51,800 --> 00:24:54,160
Speaker 2: Yeah, I thought that was some gamesmanship by how definitely

671
00:24:54,200 --> 00:24:56,320
Speaker 2: is to give, and I think that Keith was alluding

672
00:24:56,320 --> 00:24:58,120
Speaker 2: to that without saying it out right in the broadcast,

673
00:24:58,119 --> 00:24:59,480
Speaker 2: which is a good thing that he picked up, but

674
00:24:59,560 --> 00:25:01,400
Speaker 2: just giving with a chance to catch his breath because

675
00:25:01,440 --> 00:25:03,200
Speaker 2: the Welvie bailed us out and Welby's good ball play.

676
00:25:03,400 --> 00:25:05,040
Speaker 2: He was in a lot of these rallies this series,

677
00:25:05,080 --> 00:25:07,280
Speaker 2: but that was a horrible bad from the swing of

678
00:25:07,280 --> 00:25:09,719
Speaker 2: the slider atstraction. I'll completely save Edwin Diaz, but then

679
00:25:09,760 --> 00:25:11,760
Speaker 2: I go on him and the other cruise up next,

680
00:25:11,760 --> 00:25:13,640
Speaker 2: and d stopped the game for nearly five minutes because

681
00:25:13,640 --> 00:25:15,120
Speaker 2: one of his cleats broke and he had to change

682
00:25:15,160 --> 00:25:17,200
Speaker 2: his shoes, Which was such a funny visual that made

683
00:25:17,200 --> 00:25:18,600
Speaker 2: his way around to whether war Edmund was like the

684
00:25:18,640 --> 00:25:20,960
Speaker 2: one the two new shoes next to the cleats he

685
00:25:21,000 --> 00:25:23,119
Speaker 2: was wearing. The fact that these guys have backup cleats

686
00:25:23,119 --> 00:25:24,720
Speaker 2: ready to go, it was so funny too, like I've

687
00:25:24,760 --> 00:25:25,679
Speaker 2: never considered that.

688
00:25:25,720 --> 00:25:27,679
Speaker 1: But then seeing the spike breaking, I was like, you

689
00:25:27,680 --> 00:25:29,760
Speaker 1: can't pitch like that. What's also crazy too, is like

690
00:25:29,880 --> 00:25:32,159
Speaker 1: metal cleats take forever to break in, So these are

691
00:25:32,200 --> 00:25:34,280
Speaker 1: cleats that he's been wearing that he's ready. Just yes,

692
00:25:34,400 --> 00:25:35,440
Speaker 1: I guess, yeah, I guess.

693
00:25:35,520 --> 00:25:38,080
Speaker 2: Then after so it said Edunda stopped the game for

694
00:25:38,160 --> 00:25:39,639
Speaker 2: nearly five minutes because one of his cleats broke and

695
00:25:39,640 --> 00:25:41,119
Speaker 2: he had to change his shoes on the mound. This

696
00:25:41,160 --> 00:25:42,760
Speaker 2: happened in the middle of an that bat with the

697
00:25:42,760 --> 00:25:44,240
Speaker 2: go ahead run a second base in the middle of

698
00:25:44,280 --> 00:25:47,000
Speaker 2: a Pennon race, only the Mets struck out day La

699
00:25:47,080 --> 00:25:49,320
Speaker 2: Cruz then then had to race Gavin Lux to first

700
00:25:49,320 --> 00:25:51,480
Speaker 2: base on a player with Luis and Helicuna made a

701
00:25:51,480 --> 00:25:53,480
Speaker 2: gorgeou stop and home to restrike the Daz who is

702
00:25:53,520 --> 00:25:55,760
Speaker 2: in the dead sprint to the bag. Just another save

703
00:25:55,800 --> 00:25:56,560
Speaker 2: from the box score.

704
00:25:57,080 --> 00:25:59,000
Speaker 1: He would have never known if he didn't watch the highlight,

705
00:25:59,040 --> 00:26:01,240
Speaker 1: so you'd be like, oh, mets one, this not bad.

706
00:26:01,680 --> 00:26:04,240
Speaker 2: That was a great play by both Akunya and ds

707
00:26:04,240 --> 00:26:06,959
Speaker 2: because we know how much struggled with with the pfps,

708
00:26:07,000 --> 00:26:09,439
Speaker 2: but he was the second happened off the mound. Akuni

709
00:26:09,520 --> 00:26:12,320
Speaker 2: in the hole threw a ball with Mustard and Diz

710
00:26:12,320 --> 00:26:14,240
Speaker 2: actually made the play and touched the back in one motion.

711
00:26:14,320 --> 00:26:14,520
Speaker 1: It was.

712
00:26:14,840 --> 00:26:16,760
Speaker 2: It was nice and just thinking back, if anything goes

713
00:26:16,760 --> 00:26:18,080
Speaker 2: wrong in that play and we just swept in this.

714
00:26:18,119 --> 00:26:20,280
Speaker 1: Series, it's threat level in night right now.

715
00:26:20,320 --> 00:26:22,399
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, it is such a miracle looking back and

716
00:26:22,400 --> 00:26:23,800
Speaker 2: appreciating that win that much more.

717
00:26:23,920 --> 00:26:26,560
Speaker 1: Yeah, I hate saying thank god we won one, but

718
00:26:26,760 --> 00:26:29,080
Speaker 1: thank god we won one game because the Red's only

719
00:26:29,080 --> 00:26:31,439
Speaker 1: gained one on us in a series that we played

720
00:26:31,560 --> 00:26:34,199
Speaker 1: like complete nutter dog shit, especially because the way this

721
00:26:34,240 --> 00:26:36,840
Speaker 1: game started felt like we were gonna hammer them that

722
00:26:36,920 --> 00:26:37,239
Speaker 1: home run.

723
00:26:37,320 --> 00:26:39,080
Speaker 2: The Vianto has hit off and rabb but four hundred

724
00:26:39,080 --> 00:26:41,880
Speaker 2: and twenty seven feet so a right center field. It's

725
00:26:41,920 --> 00:26:44,160
Speaker 2: the fifth furthest opposite field to run the whole league

726
00:26:44,160 --> 00:26:47,080
Speaker 2: this season. That's crazy crazy. It was Judge one, of

727
00:26:47,080 --> 00:26:49,080
Speaker 2: course Atani. There's a couple of other weird ones on there.

728
00:26:49,160 --> 00:26:50,920
Speaker 2: Jordan Beck has one of the longest ones, which is funny.

729
00:26:50,920 --> 00:26:51,600
Speaker 1: Powerful young man.

730
00:26:51,680 --> 00:26:53,760
Speaker 2: Yeah, but it's just you felt like we were ready

731
00:26:53,760 --> 00:26:55,720
Speaker 2: to pop the lid off this game and just put

732
00:26:55,800 --> 00:26:57,440
Speaker 2: up another ten runs like we've been doing for a

733
00:26:57,440 --> 00:26:59,680
Speaker 2: lot this week, and then everything stopped, and it feels

734
00:26:59,760 --> 00:27:01,520
Speaker 2: like it may have just actually stopped.

735
00:27:01,520 --> 00:27:01,639
Speaker 1: Now.

736
00:27:01,640 --> 00:27:04,000
Speaker 2: It feels like the offensive may have finally stopped being

737
00:27:04,040 --> 00:27:04,560
Speaker 2: super hot.

738
00:27:04,640 --> 00:27:07,160
Speaker 1: Yeah, I hope that maybe getting into Philly and that

739
00:27:07,280 --> 00:27:10,120
Speaker 1: insane atmosphere and the fact that that stave is gonna

740
00:27:10,119 --> 00:27:11,679
Speaker 1: be packed every night, I'm hoping that wakes them up

741
00:27:11,680 --> 00:27:14,520
Speaker 1: a little bit again, because it's if the stadium isn't

742
00:27:14,560 --> 00:27:17,320
Speaker 1: absolutely rocking from the first pitch, it feels like they

743
00:27:17,320 --> 00:27:20,119
Speaker 1: don't show up, which is crazy. No physical anddoring. They

744
00:27:20,119 --> 00:27:22,080
Speaker 1: came on Friday to on base five times. They go.

745
00:27:22,200 --> 00:27:24,040
Speaker 1: Ps is back officially above eight hundred.

746
00:27:24,440 --> 00:27:27,120
Speaker 2: So though two was just ripping that double here, ripped

747
00:27:27,119 --> 00:27:28,719
Speaker 2: down the line with Lindor and second they went back

748
00:27:28,760 --> 00:27:29,080
Speaker 2: to back.

749
00:27:29,000 --> 00:27:29,760
Speaker 1: Doubles to two outs.

750
00:27:29,760 --> 00:27:32,040
Speaker 2: I was like, this is nice, but we're in another

751
00:27:32,080 --> 00:27:34,920
Speaker 2: spot where now some of these concerns about David Peterson

752
00:27:35,000 --> 00:27:37,120
Speaker 2: are real coming to fruition.

753
00:27:37,960 --> 00:27:40,720
Speaker 1: I think a sneaky thing that like, I don't know

754
00:27:41,119 --> 00:27:42,960
Speaker 1: how you feel about it yet, but we've talked about

755
00:27:43,040 --> 00:27:45,800
Speaker 1: this podcast Clay Homes innings, these younger pitchers innings. Oh

756
00:27:45,840 --> 00:27:48,440
Speaker 1: for sure, David Peterson's way higher than he's ever thrown

757
00:27:48,760 --> 00:27:51,800
Speaker 1: innings wise in his career. Not making any excuse, but

758
00:27:51,840 --> 00:27:53,520
Speaker 1: could that be part of the reason maybe why the

759
00:27:54,240 --> 00:27:56,440
Speaker 1: production is diminished a little bit? Oh, no doubt.

760
00:27:56,440 --> 00:27:58,080
Speaker 2: You could feel that people were talking about that on

761
00:27:58,119 --> 00:28:00,159
Speaker 2: twyter this weekend. Last year, I mean two years goes

762
00:28:00,200 --> 00:28:01,920
Speaker 2: one hundred three, yers go one hundred five. Two years

763
00:28:01,920 --> 00:28:04,240
Speaker 2: ago one hundred eleven, last year one hundred and twenty one.

764
00:28:04,280 --> 00:28:06,879
Speaker 2: But when you add the postseason into last year that

765
00:28:06,920 --> 00:28:08,160
Speaker 2: one twenty one, you get twelve more.

766
00:28:08,160 --> 00:28:09,200
Speaker 1: He gets one thirty three.

767
00:28:09,440 --> 00:28:10,720
Speaker 2: And last year he did pitch a bit in the

768
00:28:10,760 --> 00:28:13,080
Speaker 2: minor leagues two to begin the season as he was rehabbing.

769
00:28:13,080 --> 00:28:15,719
Speaker 2: So we also last year than the miners threw another

770
00:28:15,800 --> 00:28:17,280
Speaker 2: twenty five innings, so he's.

771
00:28:17,119 --> 00:28:18,440
Speaker 1: One hundred and fifty sotting.

772
00:28:18,440 --> 00:28:20,280
Speaker 2: He got to one hundred fifty last year across all levels,

773
00:28:20,280 --> 00:28:22,000
Speaker 2: and right now he's at one hundred and fifty seven.

774
00:28:22,119 --> 00:28:24,160
Speaker 2: So you he should have one hundred seventy one hundred

775
00:28:24,160 --> 00:28:25,560
Speaker 2: and eight in the tank pretty easily, and he's on

776
00:28:25,600 --> 00:28:26,840
Speaker 2: pace for that. It's on pace to goal a little

777
00:28:26,880 --> 00:28:29,600
Speaker 2: bit more than that. But seeing the lack of consistency

778
00:28:29,680 --> 00:28:33,040
Speaker 2: was breaking balls now for the entire second half, Seeing

779
00:28:33,040 --> 00:28:35,600
Speaker 2: the fact that he cruised early, got into trouble.

780
00:28:35,640 --> 00:28:37,359
Speaker 1: Then he was in that sixth inning of seventy pitches.

781
00:28:37,400 --> 00:28:38,600
Speaker 1: I was like, all right, this is back, is gonna

782
00:28:38,600 --> 00:28:38,800
Speaker 1: be good.

783
00:28:38,840 --> 00:28:41,920
Speaker 2: David Peterson start and then twenty one pitches to face

784
00:28:41,960 --> 00:28:44,000
Speaker 2: three batters, got one out and got pulled from the game.

785
00:28:44,920 --> 00:28:48,320
Speaker 1: It's uh, he's just gotta be better. But this is

786
00:28:48,320 --> 00:28:51,600
Speaker 1: also like why we've always cautioned everybody that David Peterson's

787
00:28:51,600 --> 00:28:54,000
Speaker 1: on number one is for this exact reason right here,

788
00:28:54,160 --> 00:28:56,120
Speaker 1: totally nor number two. But that's also okay.

789
00:28:56,160 --> 00:28:58,360
Speaker 2: Like him having a three seven yard right now, it's great,

790
00:28:58,720 --> 00:29:01,200
Speaker 2: feels like what was more? Were so expected him having

791
00:29:01,200 --> 00:29:03,880
Speaker 2: a two weight into July that may have hurt the

792
00:29:04,360 --> 00:29:06,560
Speaker 2: perception of him because that's not who he is. Like

793
00:29:06,640 --> 00:29:08,800
Speaker 2: him being between the three, five and three A guy

794
00:29:09,520 --> 00:29:11,440
Speaker 2: is cool, it's fine, it's totally accepted.

795
00:29:11,480 --> 00:29:12,440
Speaker 1: It's the total reverse.

796
00:29:12,560 --> 00:29:15,600
Speaker 2: What's happened with Mark Fiento's la Mark Fiento's I tweet

797
00:29:15,640 --> 00:29:17,480
Speaker 2: that Friday, he's about the back door seven fifty oh

798
00:29:17,520 --> 00:29:19,320
Speaker 2: ps twenty home run season, which is like what the

799
00:29:19,320 --> 00:29:21,600
Speaker 2: projections called for him. Whe Peterson sadly going to back

800
00:29:21,640 --> 00:29:24,080
Speaker 2: door like a three seven yard season, which the projection

801
00:29:24,120 --> 00:29:26,040
Speaker 2: set for him. So just these things all winds up

802
00:29:26,040 --> 00:29:28,800
Speaker 2: the way we kind of think they're going to be early.

803
00:29:29,120 --> 00:29:30,840
Speaker 2: Then during the season we start having fun. We started

804
00:29:30,840 --> 00:29:32,200
Speaker 2: to see things start to change their mind. By the

805
00:29:32,280 --> 00:29:34,120
Speaker 2: end of the year, it's kind of exactly what you

806
00:29:34,200 --> 00:29:34,720
Speaker 2: expected to be.

807
00:29:34,960 --> 00:29:38,560
Speaker 1: Yeah, no crazy that we've never learned, But one hundred

808
00:29:38,560 --> 00:29:40,400
Speaker 1: and six two game season, pretty much all the stuff

809
00:29:40,400 --> 00:29:43,200
Speaker 1: that's supposed to happen ends up happening by the end, sadly, and.

810
00:29:43,200 --> 00:29:45,600
Speaker 2: Again like a great job by the bullpeny in that game,

811
00:29:45,640 --> 00:29:48,440
Speaker 2: holding on like standing Lanny Big Standing Friday was good,

812
00:29:48,440 --> 00:29:50,400
Speaker 2: Stanning Saturday was bad, Brooks Raley was awesome.

813
00:29:50,480 --> 00:29:53,000
Speaker 1: Tyler Rodgers was awesome. Another one of the cheapest hits

814
00:29:53,000 --> 00:29:55,440
Speaker 1: I've ever seen in my life. Crazy how many others

815
00:29:55,520 --> 00:29:57,840
Speaker 1: he gives up. I can't believe it. I know, I

816
00:29:57,880 --> 00:30:02,600
Speaker 1: know it's because he pitches the contact, but somebody everyone

817
00:30:02,640 --> 00:30:04,560
Speaker 1: else pictures the contact too, and they don't give up

818
00:30:04,560 --> 00:30:05,760
Speaker 1: these hits for sure.

819
00:30:05,800 --> 00:30:07,880
Speaker 2: But this this Thursday start that Peterson's going to make

820
00:30:07,920 --> 00:30:09,720
Speaker 2: against the Phillies. I have a big circle line it

821
00:30:09,760 --> 00:30:11,400
Speaker 2: to watch case. I think that's one that's going to

822
00:30:11,440 --> 00:30:14,680
Speaker 2: become interesting. But do you have anything else you had

823
00:30:14,720 --> 00:30:18,400
Speaker 2: from this series? I mean, no Skyline chili for you,

824
00:30:18,400 --> 00:30:20,240
Speaker 2: No no Skyle chilly from me. Shout lawa Albanis to

825
00:30:20,240 --> 00:30:22,240
Speaker 2: see the video she posted herself trying skyleon chili for

826
00:30:22,280 --> 00:30:24,640
Speaker 2: the first time, that the look of disgust on her

827
00:30:24,680 --> 00:30:28,120
Speaker 2: face when she took the first bite and called her gelatinous.

828
00:30:28,160 --> 00:30:32,000
Speaker 1: It was. It was incredible content. Gelatinous. Gelatinous was to

829
00:30:32,000 --> 00:30:33,360
Speaker 1: worry for it. It was really be.

830
00:30:33,280 --> 00:30:35,680
Speaker 2: Described as gelatinous. You should you should find that video

831
00:30:35,680 --> 00:30:37,720
Speaker 2: and watching take a watch out for this. Yeah, yeah,

832
00:30:37,800 --> 00:30:39,680
Speaker 2: very well done. But again it was it seems like

833
00:30:39,680 --> 00:30:41,680
Speaker 2: these guys love being Cincinnati between like the announcers like

834
00:30:41,680 --> 00:30:44,040
Speaker 2: Gary Keith, Like it seems like Keith and Ron just

835
00:30:44,040 --> 00:30:46,760
Speaker 2: have baseball memories of Cincinnati themselves.

836
00:30:46,520 --> 00:30:49,640
Speaker 1: Probably go out to uh North Kentucky, Kentucky.

837
00:30:49,640 --> 00:30:51,160
Speaker 2: But I know that Keith had those wars against the

838
00:30:51,240 --> 00:30:53,000
Speaker 2: Reds in the seventies with the Cardinals, Like that's a

839
00:30:53,080 --> 00:30:55,600
Speaker 2: mess too. Yeah, No, definitely because the Mets and the

840
00:30:55,600 --> 00:30:58,000
Speaker 2: Reds are a bit more of a historical rivalry.

841
00:30:58,040 --> 00:30:59,800
Speaker 1: Yeah, because they were both in the NL East. So

842
00:31:00,080 --> 00:31:02,080
Speaker 1: the fact that those teams battled for a long time,

843
00:31:02,240 --> 00:31:05,040
Speaker 1: Like it's kind of weird to think about. But the

844
00:31:05,080 --> 00:31:08,160
Speaker 1: Mets like have way more of a rivalry technically with

845
00:31:08,240 --> 00:31:10,520
Speaker 1: the Reds than they do like the Nationals or the Marlins.

846
00:31:10,800 --> 00:31:12,920
Speaker 1: And this Reds team was hyped for this series. They

847
00:31:12,960 --> 00:31:13,840
Speaker 1: came out ready to rick.

848
00:31:14,840 --> 00:31:17,640
Speaker 2: They were ready to go. They knew how important a

849
00:31:17,640 --> 00:31:20,320
Speaker 2: series it was. They were prepared for it. Sometimes they

850
00:31:20,360 --> 00:31:22,400
Speaker 2: didn't play very well themselves, but they definitely played better.

851
00:31:22,440 --> 00:31:25,040
Speaker 2: They probably outplayed the Mets almost not someone get them Friday,

852
00:31:25,080 --> 00:31:26,480
Speaker 2: but the next twek games they certainly play this.

853
00:31:26,560 --> 00:31:27,880
Speaker 1: But it's the same thing as like when we played

854
00:31:27,880 --> 00:31:30,280
Speaker 1: them here. Like the Reds don't play good baseball by

855
00:31:30,320 --> 00:31:32,520
Speaker 1: any means. They play fine. The play great baseball. I'll

856
00:31:32,520 --> 00:31:34,480
Speaker 1: play fine base They play fine baseball. It's like when

857
00:31:34,520 --> 00:31:36,960
Speaker 1: you it's I mean, Terry Francona is their manager. They

858
00:31:36,960 --> 00:31:39,160
Speaker 1: feel like so much like the Guardians as well, like

859
00:31:39,160 --> 00:31:41,200
Speaker 1: they have more, a little more version, they have a

860
00:31:41,200 --> 00:31:43,240
Speaker 1: little more juice, but at the same time, like you

861
00:31:43,360 --> 00:31:45,000
Speaker 1: wash them, Like, how do you keep winning as many

862
00:31:45,040 --> 00:31:46,680
Speaker 1: games as you do? I don't get it.

863
00:31:46,720 --> 00:31:48,920
Speaker 5: Fully, we spend a lot of time on the road.

864
00:31:49,120 --> 00:31:52,760
Speaker 3: We are often concerned about our online security when you're

865
00:31:52,920 --> 00:31:55,120
Speaker 3: logging in from all over the globe.

866
00:31:55,280 --> 00:31:58,240
Speaker 5: Really, so you should maybe look into a VPN. What

867
00:31:58,240 --> 00:31:58,959
Speaker 5: does that stand for?

868
00:31:59,040 --> 00:32:01,760
Speaker 1: Crafts Virtual Private network?

869
00:32:02,360 --> 00:32:05,440
Speaker 3: Boom nailed it, and that virtual private network that you

870
00:32:05,440 --> 00:32:08,520
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Speaker 2: Again, like we always say it, like they're fifty million

884
00:32:51,160 --> 00:32:53,080
Speaker 2: dollars in fusion away from being a world series content

885
00:32:53,160 --> 00:32:53,800
Speaker 2: like the Guardians.

886
00:32:54,120 --> 00:32:57,640
Speaker 1: Yeah, same thing here. Who we're also sneaking their way

887
00:32:57,640 --> 00:32:59,200
Speaker 1: back into the wildcard. I don't know if you've seen that.

888
00:32:59,200 --> 00:33:01,120
Speaker 2: They're two games back, as they always do, all these

889
00:33:01,160 --> 00:33:03,240
Speaker 2: teams always do. But it's just it's it's frustrating to

890
00:33:03,320 --> 00:33:06,240
Speaker 2: leave this series feeling this way, Like I really was

891
00:33:06,280 --> 00:33:08,120
Speaker 2: hoping that this would be a happier episode. I was

892
00:33:08,120 --> 00:33:10,239
Speaker 2: really happy to we'd put this team to bed and

893
00:33:10,280 --> 00:33:12,280
Speaker 2: now it's got a dog fight for the next thre weeks.

894
00:33:12,280 --> 00:33:15,040
Speaker 1: I hope everyone's ready. No, it's game on before we

895
00:33:15,280 --> 00:33:19,000
Speaker 1: going into this Phillies season or season series preview, although

896
00:33:19,040 --> 00:33:20,920
Speaker 1: it does feel like the season's pretty much on the

897
00:33:20,920 --> 00:33:23,360
Speaker 1: line in this series. There's a lot going on here. Yeah,

898
00:33:23,640 --> 00:33:25,880
Speaker 1: gotta give of course, a little uh, I don't know,

899
00:33:25,920 --> 00:33:28,440
Speaker 1: shoutouts not the right word, but talking about yeah, pouring

900
00:33:28,480 --> 00:33:32,560
Speaker 1: out for Davey Johnson this weekend. Obviously Mets legendary manager

901
00:33:32,600 --> 00:33:34,720
Speaker 1: won the eighty six World Series with them. I passed

902
00:33:34,720 --> 00:33:36,920
Speaker 1: away this weekend. Sad to see big, big part of

903
00:33:36,920 --> 00:33:39,760
Speaker 1: the baseball world. Good guys, base huge part of the

904
00:33:39,800 --> 00:33:41,360
Speaker 1: Mets family. Heard.

905
00:33:41,440 --> 00:33:44,440
Speaker 2: Hearing Gary Keith and Ron talk about him between Saturday

906
00:33:44,480 --> 00:33:46,800
Speaker 2: and Sunday's games was nice, Like the stories just how

907
00:33:46,880 --> 00:33:48,280
Speaker 2: much they rode for him, how much of a player's

908
00:33:48,280 --> 00:33:49,760
Speaker 2: manager he was. I think that's like the one thing

909
00:33:49,800 --> 00:33:51,280
Speaker 2: that we shines through with David Johnson.

910
00:33:51,440 --> 00:33:54,360
Speaker 1: That was the story about with the plane.

911
00:33:54,720 --> 00:33:57,120
Speaker 2: Yeah, when after the Mets tore out their playing after

912
00:33:57,280 --> 00:33:59,960
Speaker 2: beating the Astras in the NLCS and they completely destroyed

913
00:34:00,080 --> 00:34:03,040
Speaker 2: a private jet they I think who was Frank cashon

914
00:34:03,080 --> 00:34:04,760
Speaker 2: one of them, either the Mets owner or Frank Cash,

915
00:34:04,800 --> 00:34:06,720
Speaker 2: And a gm at told David Johnson's like, these guys

916
00:34:06,720 --> 00:34:08,279
Speaker 2: got to foot the bill and it was like a

917
00:34:08,280 --> 00:34:10,359
Speaker 2: weird moment because like you you just made the World

918
00:34:10,400 --> 00:34:12,160
Speaker 2: Series with people in your organization are kind of rallying

919
00:34:12,160 --> 00:34:12,600
Speaker 2: against you.

920
00:34:12,840 --> 00:34:14,480
Speaker 1: And then Davy apparently went to the clubhouse and tore

921
00:34:14,560 --> 00:34:15,279
Speaker 1: up the bills we're not.

922
00:34:16,320 --> 00:34:18,600
Speaker 2: Yeah, that was like a galvanizing moment for the guys,

923
00:34:18,719 --> 00:34:21,600
Speaker 2: but it's it's sad said.

924
00:34:21,600 --> 00:34:22,640
Speaker 1: He's a big probably the mess history.

925
00:34:22,680 --> 00:34:24,120
Speaker 2: Hearing those guys talk about him and really kind of

926
00:34:24,120 --> 00:34:25,680
Speaker 2: locks in how much they loved him.

927
00:34:25,719 --> 00:34:28,680
Speaker 1: It's another baseball lifer. He was managing the Nationals like

928
00:34:28,760 --> 00:34:31,680
Speaker 1: late late in his career ten years ago. Yeah, like

929
00:34:32,520 --> 00:34:34,880
Speaker 1: David Johnson was playing and playing himself in the six

930
00:34:34,960 --> 00:34:36,719
Speaker 1: sixties and fifties or sixties by the time he was

931
00:34:36,760 --> 00:34:38,800
Speaker 1: a player. Yeah, No, he's a he's a baseball lifer.

932
00:34:39,239 --> 00:34:42,279
Speaker 1: Rip to David Johnson as we now jump into this

933
00:34:42,440 --> 00:34:45,840
Speaker 1: Phillies season series preview. I did it against just because

934
00:34:45,920 --> 00:34:48,440
Speaker 1: it's because there's just so much pressure for what this

935
00:34:48,520 --> 00:34:51,080
Speaker 1: season could be. Because I'll tell you what, as much

936
00:34:51,080 --> 00:34:52,799
Speaker 1: as we owned the Phillies at City Field, and I

937
00:34:52,840 --> 00:34:55,080
Speaker 1: know we've had a good run against the messits bank

938
00:34:55,520 --> 00:34:58,200
Speaker 1: one more David Johnson. David Johnson at MVP votes one year.

939
00:34:58,320 --> 00:34:59,000
Speaker 1: Really what year?

940
00:34:59,200 --> 00:35:01,280
Speaker 2: Nineteen seventy one and he came in nineteenth for the MVP.

941
00:35:01,400 --> 00:35:02,319
Speaker 2: He wasn't even an All Star.

942
00:35:03,000 --> 00:35:05,560
Speaker 1: Hey shout David Johnson. Four and a half win player, man,

943
00:35:05,880 --> 00:35:09,120
Speaker 1: But uh, the Phillies are playing better. The Mets are not.

944
00:35:09,760 --> 00:35:11,600
Speaker 1: Phillies are good, dude. The Philly is one of the

945
00:35:11,600 --> 00:35:15,880
Speaker 1: most complete teams in the league. I'm not gonna say anything,

946
00:35:15,960 --> 00:35:17,960
Speaker 1: not gonna say anything, but you're right. It's big series.

947
00:35:18,040 --> 00:35:19,919
Speaker 1: They have the second best record in the National League

948
00:35:20,000 --> 00:35:22,080
Speaker 1: right now, they're they're on pace for a bye. So

949
00:35:22,360 --> 00:35:25,000
Speaker 1: we've got a big series. We've got the pitching matchups, James,

950
00:35:25,400 --> 00:35:26,960
Speaker 1: I know we got four of them. It's gonna be tough,

951
00:35:26,960 --> 00:35:29,000
Speaker 1: but you're gonna have to give us every single thing

952
00:35:29,000 --> 00:35:30,880
Speaker 1: you know about every pitcher that could possibly pitch the

953
00:35:30,920 --> 00:35:32,680
Speaker 1: series we need. I got it. Two of them.

954
00:35:32,719 --> 00:35:35,399
Speaker 2: We just saw between Christopher Sanchez and Hey sus Lazar

955
00:35:35,440 --> 00:35:37,000
Speaker 2: though the last two games of the series.

956
00:35:36,760 --> 00:35:39,680
Speaker 1: Click refresher for the people, how or for Eric Chavez

957
00:35:39,719 --> 00:35:41,520
Speaker 1: and Jeby Barnes, if they're listening, how do we hit

958
00:35:41,560 --> 00:35:43,759
Speaker 1: these guys. We'll get there. We'll go chronologically, but first

959
00:35:43,760 --> 00:35:45,640
Speaker 1: we're gonna have Nola Monday Night. Aaron Nola.

960
00:35:46,239 --> 00:35:48,719
Speaker 2: Factually, to this point the season hasn't pitched up to

961
00:35:48,760 --> 00:35:50,000
Speaker 2: his usual career standards.

962
00:35:50,080 --> 00:35:50,640
Speaker 1: Aaronola.

963
00:35:51,080 --> 00:35:53,319
Speaker 2: Earlier in the season, he struggled a lot to get

964
00:35:53,360 --> 00:35:55,120
Speaker 2: his VOSS in the backup. Aaron Nola kind of famously

965
00:35:55,160 --> 00:35:57,200
Speaker 2: shows up to the season without his peak velosity. But

966
00:35:57,320 --> 00:35:59,239
Speaker 2: Aeronola's peak colossi is a big deal because he sits

967
00:35:59,239 --> 00:36:01,520
Speaker 2: like between ninety one ninety two, and sometimes he would

968
00:36:01,560 --> 00:36:03,600
Speaker 2: drop to ninety There's a big difference right there in

969
00:36:03,600 --> 00:36:05,600
Speaker 2: that gradient and aitch where the hitter is going to

970
00:36:05,640 --> 00:36:07,440
Speaker 2: have to face. Now he's come back, he is back

971
00:36:07,440 --> 00:36:09,320
Speaker 2: around ninety two, and he's leaned way more into a

972
00:36:09,360 --> 00:36:11,960
Speaker 2: knuckle curve ball has a pitch to get called strikes

973
00:36:12,000 --> 00:36:14,239
Speaker 2: and get swings and misses. So I think, just you

974
00:36:14,320 --> 00:36:16,319
Speaker 2: gotta kind of sit on that curve ball and then

975
00:36:16,320 --> 00:36:18,120
Speaker 2: try to adjust to the fastball, which is kind of

976
00:36:18,120 --> 00:36:19,880
Speaker 2: the thing that Noel has done to get hit hiss

977
00:36:19,920 --> 00:36:23,160
Speaker 2: a whole career, but especially the more he's throwing it

978
00:36:23,200 --> 00:36:25,239
Speaker 2: in the strike zone. I would like to see them

979
00:36:25,680 --> 00:36:27,279
Speaker 2: kind of jump, try to jump on that pitch and

980
00:36:27,320 --> 00:36:28,720
Speaker 2: see if you can get him to make some mistakes,

981
00:36:28,760 --> 00:36:30,319
Speaker 2: get some guys on base, and see if you can

982
00:36:30,600 --> 00:36:32,520
Speaker 2: start that ball rolling. The Brewers score five runs with

983
00:36:32,600 --> 00:36:34,040
Speaker 2: him the first inning in his last start, so I

984
00:36:34,040 --> 00:36:35,600
Speaker 2: think there's a world where But then he settled in

985
00:36:35,640 --> 00:36:37,160
Speaker 2: really well after that doesn't look like it because the

986
00:36:37,160 --> 00:36:39,480
Speaker 2: five runs. But you kind of have to hit him

987
00:36:39,480 --> 00:36:41,480
Speaker 2: when you can because he will find grows. He's still

988
00:36:41,480 --> 00:36:43,640
Speaker 2: Aaron Nola, but he's been hit the ball this year,

989
00:36:43,680 --> 00:36:44,880
Speaker 2: so you got to go out the ray the hit.

990
00:36:45,000 --> 00:36:46,600
Speaker 1: Yeah. I feel like the Mets recently have been hitting

991
00:36:46,680 --> 00:36:49,920
Speaker 1: Nola better than they had prior. So maybe part of

992
00:36:50,000 --> 00:36:51,960
Speaker 1: that is being a little more aggressive and jumping on

993
00:36:52,360 --> 00:36:55,319
Speaker 1: what is a pretty mediocre fastball. Definitely and again waiting

994
00:36:55,360 --> 00:36:57,560
Speaker 1: for that curve ball. Richards Warez is very good.

995
00:36:57,640 --> 00:36:59,239
Speaker 2: We're gonna face on Tuesday night this year is even just

996
00:36:59,239 --> 00:37:00,560
Speaker 2: to give you guys the magic I've talked about the

997
00:37:00,560 --> 00:37:01,080
Speaker 2: Mets guys.

998
00:37:01,600 --> 00:37:04,160
Speaker 1: Also, six forty five games this series.

999
00:37:04,160 --> 00:37:09,480
Speaker 2: Again, everybody be ready Monday, Tuesday, Wednesday, six forty five games.

1000
00:37:09,640 --> 00:37:11,839
Speaker 2: Nolan McClain was Aaron Nola. Sham and I are range

1001
00:37:11,840 --> 00:37:15,080
Speaker 2: of Suarez left the off Clay Holmes with Christopher Sanchez

1002
00:37:15,440 --> 00:37:19,560
Speaker 2: and David Petersibers. Heyesus Lozarno. So again I'm talking about Suarez.

1003
00:37:19,680 --> 00:37:21,719
Speaker 2: It's just a it's a bag of tricks. Suarez has

1004
00:37:21,719 --> 00:37:23,759
Speaker 2: got so many different looks that he will be able

1005
00:37:23,760 --> 00:37:26,279
Speaker 2: to show, especially hit There's from the right side, the

1006
00:37:26,360 --> 00:37:28,160
Speaker 2: change up's really good, the singer is good when he

1007
00:37:28,200 --> 00:37:31,200
Speaker 2: placed it against them. And then he's throwing fewer curve

1008
00:37:31,239 --> 00:37:33,640
Speaker 2: balls this year, more colors and changes, but again he

1009
00:37:33,719 --> 00:37:36,239
Speaker 2: will he will mix all of those in any count.

1010
00:37:36,280 --> 00:37:37,840
Speaker 2: It's a very difficult at back because he has so

1011
00:37:37,840 --> 00:37:39,239
Speaker 2: many different ways to get beat you.

1012
00:37:39,480 --> 00:37:41,200
Speaker 1: He's a guy who like every time I watch, I

1013
00:37:41,280 --> 00:37:43,000
Speaker 1: go when is it gonna end? And it just never

1014
00:37:43,040 --> 00:37:45,120
Speaker 1: it never does. He just continues to pitch really really

1015
00:37:45,160 --> 00:37:47,160
Speaker 1: well throughout his career. I don't know, why do you

1016
00:37:47,160 --> 00:37:50,520
Speaker 1: think it's gonna end? I think he's an unimpressive pitcher

1017
00:37:50,520 --> 00:37:52,800
Speaker 1: to watch. I don't think you watch Ranger Swaz and

1018
00:37:52,800 --> 00:37:54,120
Speaker 1: you're blown away? Is that fair?

1019
00:37:54,200 --> 00:37:56,279
Speaker 2: But no, because he's a pitcher though, like the way

1020
00:37:56,320 --> 00:37:58,800
Speaker 2: that he mixes the different but he counts.

1021
00:37:58,920 --> 00:38:01,520
Speaker 1: But it's just like it's a cool guy. Yeah, exactly,

1022
00:38:01,560 --> 00:38:05,000
Speaker 1: it's a it's an unimpressive watch like it's like similarly

1023
00:38:05,040 --> 00:38:07,279
Speaker 1: to not Hunter Green. I'm not saying they're the same.

1024
00:38:07,320 --> 00:38:08,880
Speaker 1: I'm not saying they're the same, but similar to when

1025
00:38:08,960 --> 00:38:12,040
Speaker 1: David Peterson pitch as well, you're not like impressed, You're

1026
00:38:12,080 --> 00:38:16,440
Speaker 1: not like whoa like he's you away. Yeah, No, you're

1027
00:38:16,480 --> 00:38:17,040
Speaker 1: a leftist.

1028
00:38:17,120 --> 00:38:19,520
Speaker 2: You don't like lefty pictures, Yeah, don't respect so hard,

1029
00:38:19,719 --> 00:38:22,920
Speaker 2: throw harder the lefty average fastball floss he's like two

1030
00:38:22,920 --> 00:38:25,160
Speaker 2: for mile an hours below the average righty fastball.

1031
00:38:25,400 --> 00:38:25,480
Speaker 5: Right.

1032
00:38:25,520 --> 00:38:27,040
Speaker 1: No, Yeah, they don't. They don't got the juice.

1033
00:38:27,160 --> 00:38:28,759
Speaker 2: It's like ninety five and a half for ninety three

1034
00:38:28,760 --> 00:38:31,920
Speaker 2: and a half. Suarez himself sits at ninety That's what

1035
00:38:31,960 --> 00:38:34,600
Speaker 2: I'm talking about. Unimpressive to watch, for sure, But at

1036
00:38:34,600 --> 00:38:36,000
Speaker 2: the same time he's mixing out everything.

1037
00:38:36,040 --> 00:38:37,759
Speaker 1: You don't know what you're getting. Sure, he's good. I'm

1038
00:38:37,760 --> 00:38:40,359
Speaker 1: not saying he's bad. I'm just saying he's an watch

1039
00:38:40,880 --> 00:38:43,799
Speaker 1: you're not. You're not like, Oh, Ranger Suarez pitching tonight.

1040
00:38:43,880 --> 00:38:45,360
Speaker 1: Let me tune in and see what he's up to.

1041
00:38:46,000 --> 00:38:48,239
Speaker 1: I might tune in. Is he Ranger is up sick

1042
00:38:48,239 --> 00:38:49,880
Speaker 1: in the head. You have a disease. I do have

1043
00:38:49,920 --> 00:38:51,760
Speaker 1: a disease. I like watch your pictures.

1044
00:38:51,800 --> 00:38:54,520
Speaker 2: But he's it's gonna be frustrating because again, like like's

1045
00:38:54,560 --> 00:38:56,239
Speaker 2: Mark saying, he's not blowing you away, it's going to

1046
00:38:56,280 --> 00:38:58,560
Speaker 2: be around strikes showing doesn't walk anybody. We're just gonna

1047
00:38:58,600 --> 00:39:00,000
Speaker 2: keep handing the ball into the ground and hitting the

1048
00:39:00,160 --> 00:39:02,280
Speaker 2: lazy fly balls because you're just barely missing the barrel

1049
00:39:02,280 --> 00:39:04,040
Speaker 2: because you do not know which pitch is coming. And

1050
00:39:04,040 --> 00:39:06,400
Speaker 2: they all move kind of similarly. They're all kind of

1051
00:39:06,440 --> 00:39:09,120
Speaker 2: around the same area. Especially you're mostly going to see fastball, sinkers,

1052
00:39:09,120 --> 00:39:11,400
Speaker 2: colors and changeups, and they're all right there. It's all

1053
00:39:11,440 --> 00:39:13,640
Speaker 2: like a little tiny this, this, this, every different directions.

1054
00:39:13,640 --> 00:39:14,280
Speaker 1: It's frustrating.

1055
00:39:14,320 --> 00:39:16,520
Speaker 2: And in the next two guys, Sanchez and Lazar, though

1056
00:39:16,840 --> 00:39:19,759
Speaker 2: we hit them last time, I think the same idea. Sanchez,

1057
00:39:19,800 --> 00:39:21,440
Speaker 2: he's going to be throwing the strikes. You have to

1058
00:39:21,480 --> 00:39:23,839
Speaker 2: try and jump on him, put pressure on, get guys

1059
00:39:23,880 --> 00:39:25,440
Speaker 2: on base, and see if you can make him uncomfortable

1060
00:39:25,480 --> 00:39:27,440
Speaker 2: like we did. Where Lazardo is kind of the opposite,

1061
00:39:27,640 --> 00:39:29,279
Speaker 2: sitting way back, is coming off a good start. We

1062
00:39:29,280 --> 00:39:32,040
Speaker 2: all always know lazarre Tho's next bad star is always

1063
00:39:32,080 --> 00:39:32,840
Speaker 2: right around the corner.

1064
00:39:32,880 --> 00:39:34,399
Speaker 1: But that's kind of way back.

1065
00:39:34,440 --> 00:39:36,359
Speaker 2: Wait for him to make the mistake where Sanchez jump

1066
00:39:36,400 --> 00:39:37,640
Speaker 2: on all the balls and strikes, so I try to

1067
00:39:37,640 --> 00:39:38,719
Speaker 2: make the contact work for you.

1068
00:39:38,800 --> 00:39:40,719
Speaker 1: I don't know if you saw these comments James to

1069
00:39:40,760 --> 00:39:42,719
Speaker 1: everybody listening to the podcast, Me and James sort of

1070
00:39:42,760 --> 00:39:45,360
Speaker 1: Baseball Channel together to talk about more baseball called The

1071
00:39:45,400 --> 00:39:47,400
Speaker 1: wind Up. Definitely go check it out. We appreciate it.

1072
00:39:47,840 --> 00:39:50,799
Speaker 1: But on our specifically our like short form content, when

1073
00:39:50,800 --> 00:39:53,279
Speaker 1: we said that Alec Boom and Hazels Lozardo were the

1074
00:39:53,320 --> 00:39:56,719
Speaker 1: most overrated players on the Phillies team, people were like,

1075
00:39:56,760 --> 00:39:59,960
Speaker 1: Alec Bolm's hitting two eighty hazes Lozardo's got a three.

1076
00:40:00,000 --> 00:40:01,640
Speaker 1: Ad right, I think it's up to four now. But

1077
00:40:01,680 --> 00:40:03,680
Speaker 1: it is so funny. I'm like, you're you're proving our point,

1078
00:40:03,719 --> 00:40:05,560
Speaker 1: You're doing you're doing the work for us. Thank you

1079
00:40:05,600 --> 00:40:07,560
Speaker 1: so much. Yeah, that's literally the whole thing. But that

1080
00:40:07,640 --> 00:40:08,240
Speaker 1: is who Lazarre.

1081
00:40:08,280 --> 00:40:10,799
Speaker 2: The wh is like every sometimes you will get good looks,

1082
00:40:10,800 --> 00:40:14,239
Speaker 2: like a suntouched untouchable Yeah, where Sanchez. Weirdly, he is

1083
00:40:14,400 --> 00:40:15,680
Speaker 2: like that kind of guy. So I do hope we

1084
00:40:15,680 --> 00:40:17,399
Speaker 2: got to him last time again. Hope the same game plan,

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00:40:17,440 --> 00:40:18,960
Speaker 2: but I know Hill just he'll do something different this

1086
00:40:19,000 --> 00:40:21,439
Speaker 2: time as well. But it's this is a good team.

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Speaker 2: These are good pictures. You see Max Kepler also sneakily

1088
00:40:24,480 --> 00:40:26,880
Speaker 2: is now blazing hot. I don't know really, yes, And

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00:40:26,920 --> 00:40:28,560
Speaker 2: we have a couple of picture guys going this series

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00:40:28,600 --> 00:40:30,239
Speaker 2: where I know he's going to get those starts against

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00:40:30,280 --> 00:40:32,480
Speaker 2: Noan McLain and Clay Holmes. I know McClain's been great

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00:40:32,480 --> 00:40:35,200
Speaker 2: against lefties, but both of these guys objectively will struggle

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00:40:35,239 --> 00:40:37,120
Speaker 2: more against lefties than righty, so that that's probably a

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00:40:37,120 --> 00:40:39,560
Speaker 2: player to watch who's under the radar, not the stars

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Speaker 2: that we know about.

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Speaker 1: I think Brandon marsh has been playing better as well

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00:40:42,200 --> 00:40:44,719
Speaker 1: too recently. He always does thing. But Trey Turner did

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00:40:44,760 --> 00:40:47,200
Speaker 1: just leave their game on Sunday with some hamstring tightness.

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Speaker 2: No comment, no comment, but no comment. I know we

1100
00:40:51,360 --> 00:40:53,319
Speaker 2: beat this team. I know it feels like sometimes we

1101
00:40:53,400 --> 00:40:55,960
Speaker 2: have their number. It's a really, really good baseball team

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00:40:55,960 --> 00:40:58,000
Speaker 2: in the Phillies. They should not be taken lightly. It's a

1103
00:40:58,000 --> 00:41:00,319
Speaker 2: really important series because we have four games against the team,

1104
00:41:00,360 --> 00:41:02,440
Speaker 2: and we need to start sacking wins desperately because we

1105
00:41:02,480 --> 00:41:04,440
Speaker 2: do not want to give these other National League teams

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00:41:04,600 --> 00:41:06,160
Speaker 2: any more life than we've already given them.

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00:41:06,200 --> 00:41:08,720
Speaker 1: Can't let them hang around. The Mets need to finish

1108
00:41:09,160 --> 00:41:11,680
Speaker 1: the next few games till the end of the season.

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00:41:12,040 --> 00:41:14,120
Speaker 1: Three four, five games over five hundred. You can't be

1110
00:41:14,120 --> 00:41:16,840
Speaker 1: playing even five hundred baseball and feel comfortable about what

1111
00:41:16,880 --> 00:41:18,319
Speaker 1: you're doing. No, absolutely not.

1112
00:41:18,320 --> 00:41:20,239
Speaker 2: And again it starts with beating these good teams, Like

1113
00:41:20,239 --> 00:41:21,960
Speaker 2: that's kind of a that's a big part of this show.

1114
00:41:22,080 --> 00:41:23,960
Speaker 1: Show we're a good team. Prove it. Prove it to

1115
00:41:23,960 --> 00:41:25,880
Speaker 1: the Mets fans, prove to baseball fans, Prove it to

1116
00:41:25,880 --> 00:41:27,560
Speaker 1: people that the Mets are a good team that deserve

1117
00:41:27,600 --> 00:41:29,319
Speaker 1: to be in the playoffs because we think they are,

1118
00:41:29,880 --> 00:41:32,880
Speaker 1: but they haven't shown it fully just yet. And again,

1119
00:41:32,960 --> 00:41:33,319
Speaker 1: like this.

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00:41:33,360 --> 00:41:35,600
Speaker 2: Long of a road trip this time this season is difficult,

1121
00:41:35,640 --> 00:41:37,799
Speaker 2: and the fact that even if you just split with

1122
00:41:37,840 --> 00:41:40,160
Speaker 2: the Phillies, do you go five hundred on the road trip,

1123
00:41:40,200 --> 00:41:42,239
Speaker 2: Like that's fine, Like go five hundred in this road trip,

1124
00:41:42,239 --> 00:41:44,120
Speaker 2: you said at the beginning, going facing against three teams

1125
00:41:44,120 --> 00:41:46,279
Speaker 2: over five hundred, two teams who are in the top

1126
00:41:46,560 --> 00:41:48,520
Speaker 2: four in all Major League Baseball win totals. It's like,

1127
00:41:48,520 --> 00:41:50,440
Speaker 2: all right, you split, you get that, this, you get

1128
00:41:50,440 --> 00:41:52,319
Speaker 2: back home, let's keep playing baseball. But this is it's

1129
00:41:52,480 --> 00:41:56,080
Speaker 2: very important to not let this team keep bleeding right

1130
00:41:56,160 --> 00:41:57,120
Speaker 2: away against the Phillies.

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00:41:57,160 --> 00:41:59,760
Speaker 1: And I do think we'll find out almost instantly on Monday,

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00:41:59,760 --> 00:42:00,799
Speaker 1: how series gonna go.

1133
00:42:01,040 --> 00:42:02,959
Speaker 2: I don't think so, because the exact opposite that happened

1134
00:42:02,960 --> 00:42:05,040
Speaker 2: this year is against the Reds. I don't know, did

1135
00:42:05,040 --> 00:42:07,239
Speaker 2: it though, Yeah, because we jumped all over them the

1136
00:42:07,239 --> 00:42:08,879
Speaker 2: first half hour of that game, but then like twenty

1137
00:42:08,920 --> 00:42:11,240
Speaker 2: minutes later you were like, oh, we're not like forty

1138
00:42:11,239 --> 00:42:12,920
Speaker 2: five minutes there. It took like the six, seven and

1139
00:42:12,920 --> 00:42:14,480
Speaker 2: eighth ninth inning until we really felt that. But I

1140
00:42:14,520 --> 00:42:16,160
Speaker 2: thought I felt like we had much more momentum than

1141
00:42:16,200 --> 00:42:17,040
Speaker 2: we wound up leaving.

1142
00:42:16,880 --> 00:42:18,680
Speaker 1: With we'll see, we'll find out, we'll see what we got.

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00:42:18,680 --> 00:42:20,759
Speaker 1: We got. We got Frankie Peppers here to help close

1144
00:42:20,760 --> 00:42:22,439
Speaker 1: out this episode a little bit of a shorter one,

1145
00:42:22,480 --> 00:42:25,040
Speaker 1: but truthfully, it's just so much to talk about. I'm

1146
00:42:25,040 --> 00:42:26,319
Speaker 1: not sure that Frankie Peppers as well.

1147
00:42:26,360 --> 00:42:29,759
Speaker 2: Seventeen seconds to send us ash because Sunday, Yeah, here

1148
00:42:29,920 --> 00:42:30,920
Speaker 2: comes Frankie.

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00:42:31,520 --> 00:42:38,480
Speaker 1: Gentlemen, this is Franky. I don't want to eat Skyline Chilly.

1150
00:42:38,640 --> 00:42:40,040
Speaker 1: I don't know.

1151
00:42:40,880 --> 00:42:42,040
Speaker 2: I don't want to do it.

1152
00:42:42,719 --> 00:42:44,440
Speaker 1: I have to do it, I shaid, I do it.

1153
00:42:44,480 --> 00:42:45,399
Speaker 2: I don't want to do it.

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00:42:46,680 --> 00:42:50,479
Speaker 1: Let's go miss that's the promise. If we lost serious

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00:42:50,480 --> 00:42:53,320
Speaker 1: Skyline Jiller, that's a defeated man. I mean, obviously we

1156
00:42:53,719 --> 00:42:56,120
Speaker 1: would never What are you playing that was the Instagram

1157
00:42:56,160 --> 00:42:59,400
Speaker 1: popped up our real popped up shout to wind up. Obviously,

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00:42:59,440 --> 00:43:03,040
Speaker 1: we would never want to compromise the identity of Frankie Peppers,

1159
00:43:03,080 --> 00:43:06,480
Speaker 1: but a video of Frankie Pepper's eating some Bolonie or

1160
00:43:06,560 --> 00:43:09,320
Speaker 1: us eating some Skyline chili would definitely hit the algorithm

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00:43:09,360 --> 00:43:12,480
Speaker 1: pretty hard. I think the people would appreciate that. Frankie. Yes,

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00:43:13,400 --> 00:43:15,080
Speaker 1: we'll let you decide. You're an artist. We would never

1163
00:43:15,120 --> 00:43:16,839
Speaker 1: tell you how to how to work your game. One

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Speaker 1: hundred percent. I think that's all we got. I think

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00:43:18,719 --> 00:43:21,040
Speaker 1: that's pretty much all we got. Guys. Thank you for listening,

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00:43:23,040 --> 00:43:25,600
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00:43:28,160 --> 00:43:29,719
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Speaker 1: you for watching. We'll catch you all on the next episode.

1175
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Speaker 1: Let's go Mets. Let's go Mets guys. Peace out