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Speaker 1: But what about my grotto.

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Speaker 2: I need a grotto.

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Speaker 1: It's one more thing.

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Speaker 3: I can't imagine what this is going to be.

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Speaker 1: Grotto might be at like the top of the list

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Speaker 1: of words that aren't dirty but sound dirty.

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Speaker 3: I don't know. I just came out. I was just

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Speaker 3: scrolling through Twitter, and somebody saw an old ad for

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Speaker 3: this product and said, fluffer nutter might be the.

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Speaker 2: Worst name for any food ever. Fluffer nutter is pretty graphic.

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Speaker 2: Fluffer nutter Man. I used to need the fluffer nutter

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Speaker 1: I don't think a butter fluff and I'm sorry marshmallow

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Speaker 3: I don't think I've ever had fluffer nutter.

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Speaker 2: But that is a.

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Speaker 1: You know, it's funny because my mom in particular, was

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Speaker 1: you shouldn't, like so many people of our generation her generation.

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Speaker 1: But uh, I'm surprised she permitted me to eat peanut

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Speaker 1: butter and marshmallow fluff sandwich. Is especially because I was

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Speaker 2: With the fluff, I mean nearly to the point of absurdity.

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Speaker 3: But it does sound like a sex act slash insult

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Speaker 1: Well, because your offer is from is from porn, isn't it?

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Speaker 2: Yes?

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Speaker 1: Yes, indeed, helping the get you going.

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Speaker 2: Male actors maintain.

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Speaker 1: I make sure they're ready for the next take, exactly.

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Speaker 4: I just called one of my friends a fluffer the

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Speaker 4: other day. I can't remember why. Hm, huh, we throw

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Speaker 4: that around frequently.

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Speaker 2: Okay, here you go.

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Speaker 1: Wow an earthy young gal, no doubt. So. Uh, speaking

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Speaker 1: of my grotto, I'm sorry, was there more you wanted

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Speaker 1: to say, Katie, No, you're good.

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Speaker 2: Shocking and outrageous. I'm sure you.

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Speaker 3: You got sluffer nut aro on my grotto sounds horribly

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Speaker 3: the scene and it's not in the least.

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Speaker 1: Or there were a couple of fluffer nutters in my gratto.

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Speaker 1: I've going to have it professionally cleaned, exactly, or go

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Speaker 1: to the doctor or whatever. Don't attempt this at home.

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Speaker 1: So this is this was so funny. I've been wanting

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Speaker 1: ostensibly about a judge in Beverly Hills who got pissed

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Speaker 1: affordable housing. And the headline is in Beverly Hills, no

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Speaker 1: over lack of affordable housing. Essentially, he blocked the city

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Speaker 3: So I got a nice piece of property, I got

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Speaker 1: Expand your garage or remodel your kitchen or put in

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Speaker 2: Wow, And that's what gets done.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, Now that's freedom the property I own.

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Speaker 3: Somehow me taking my money and getting a grotto next

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Speaker 1: Well, and it's clearly an activist judge who's taking politics

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Speaker 3: That's just if you If somebody I don't even know

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Speaker 1: And like rich Enclaves couldn't keep people out. Maybe you

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Speaker 2: The part of the article.

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Speaker 1: So in nineteen seventy the population in Beverly Hills was

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Speaker 1: having no population growth, No poor people know nothing, in

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Speaker 3: Yeah, that's what we all want.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, over densification is kind of funny. So under the law,

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Speaker 1: in an effort to combat widespread housing affordability, reduce carbon emissions,

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Speaker 1: in the current period, Beverly Hill's target under the housing

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Speaker 1: So from three to thirty one hundred homes, you've got

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Speaker 1: California Housing Department officials said this city is overestimating how

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Speaker 1: Here's what I'm working up to. The judge, after they

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Speaker 3: This is the sort of thing Tucker Carlson Nois used

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Speaker 3: We don't want to have you know, low housing, income

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Speaker 1: their homes and how close any affordable housing is to them,

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Speaker 1: or even like a house that the median income earner

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Speaker 1: in California could afford.

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Speaker 2: I'll bet it's like miles to.

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Speaker 1: The nearest house that's under a million bucks, I mean

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Speaker 1: from a million.

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Speaker 2: Yeah.

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Speaker 3: Well, I hate this sort of law in general, but

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Speaker 3: if you're gonna let the super wealthy and connected get

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Speaker 3: away with not having to obey it, it's like ten

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Speaker 3: times worse.

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Speaker 2: Yeah.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, you know, there's plenty I disagree with Tucker on

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Speaker 1: these days, but that point he makes, it's what, Oh gosh,

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Speaker 1: who's Peggy Noonan. We're talking about her editorial recently that

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Speaker 1: was so good about why Trump has as much support

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Speaker 1: as he does, and she's talking about the protected.

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Speaker 2: Class and the unprotected class.

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Speaker 1: You can unleash whatever, stupid ass policies or decisions or

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Speaker 1: economic moves or whatever. The protected class isn't going to

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Speaker 1: suffer in iota. They'll be perfectly fine. And that's what

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Speaker 1: we're talking about here, the protected class that has gone

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Speaker 1: to lengths that are utterly comedic to make sure their

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Speaker 1: neighborhoods remain exclusively enclaves of the super rich and powerful,

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Speaker 1: even while demanding the rest of us, you know, go

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Speaker 1: through whatever gyrations they demand to do the good that

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Speaker 1: they think a happening to do.

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Speaker 3: They know how hypocritical they are when they are on

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Speaker 3: stage getting their oscar and talking about equality in the downtrodden,

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Speaker 3: but they won't let any lower income housing in their neighborhood.

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Speaker 3: I mean, do they realize that or do they somehow

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Speaker 3: do some mental gymnastics to get out of that.

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Speaker 1: I think, in my experience, including my personal experience inside

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Speaker 1: my own head. Uh, human beings have an unbelievable capacity

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Speaker 1: to shove something out.

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Speaker 3: Do they actually believe they're of like a different cast that.

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Speaker 2: Doesn't?

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Speaker 1: I think they again, they have like a lurking guilt,

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Speaker 1: but they keep it at bay.

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Speaker 3: Or I donate so much to charity that it's fine

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Speaker 3: that it doesn't allow.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, well, and and the drop in property values would

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Speaker 1: be absolutely catastrophic, and you just you can't ask. I

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Speaker 1: would not ask somebody in you know, the San Fernando Valley,

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Speaker 1: name your you know, your your suburb. I would not

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Speaker 1: ask somebody to have that sort of burden personally. And

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Speaker 1: and so then they get to portray themselves as I'm

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Speaker 1: I'm actually I'm not standing up for me. I'm standing

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Speaker 1: up for middle class people who who don't want to

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Speaker 1: see it so that it needs to be done care

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Speaker 1: I'm in favor of affordable housing, but it needs to

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Speaker 1: be done in a way that's smart and efficient. And

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Speaker 1: and wait a minute, what else would oh? And recognizes

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Speaker 1: environmental imperatives as right right, And we have a great

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Speaker 1: deal of green space here in Beverly Hills, and I

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Speaker 1: employ so many people. I employ gardeners and pool people

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Speaker 1: and a grotto scrubber, jeez, grotto scrubber for ever ruined

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Speaker 1: the word grotto.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, exactly. Grottos are no longer enjoyable.

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Speaker 4: Used to like to go to the Fisherman's Grotto in

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Speaker 4: San Francisco when it was still open.

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Speaker 2: Never again, it's ruined. You get mild owing, you're mildewing

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Speaker 2: your grotto.

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Speaker 1: Oh, I swear, I swear.

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Speaker 4: Gross. Usually you're the one that keeps the class in

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Speaker 4: the operation.

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Speaker 1: What are you doing?

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I don't know. I've given up.

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Speaker 1: Well, I guess that's it.