1 00:00:03,680 --> 00:00:06,399 Speaker 1: Hig and everybody. I'm Dan Hord and thanks for downloading 2 00:00:06,440 --> 00:00:10,440 Speaker 1: The Bengals Booth Podcast, The Ain't It Something? How the 3 00:00:10,520 --> 00:00:15,040 Speaker 1: Way Things Go? Edition as the Bengals nearly pull off 4 00:00:15,120 --> 00:00:18,480 Speaker 1: one of the greatest finishes in teen history before losing 5 00:00:18,560 --> 00:00:21,880 Speaker 1: to the Bears forty seven to forty two. 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Now here's a 13 00:00:48,880 --> 00:00:51,640 Speaker 1: quick reminder that you can have the latest edition of 14 00:00:51,680 --> 00:00:55,320 Speaker 1: this podcast delivered right to your phone, tablet, or computer 15 00:00:55,440 --> 00:00:59,520 Speaker 1: by subscribing wherever you get your podcasts. It's the Greatest 16 00:00:59,520 --> 00:01:04,479 Speaker 1: thing sent. Bob Trumpy, the all time Cincinnati great as 17 00:01:04,520 --> 00:01:08,440 Speaker 1: a player and broadcaster, passed away on Sunday at the 18 00:01:08,480 --> 00:01:11,959 Speaker 1: age of eighty. Bob was a twelfth round draft pick 19 00:01:12,240 --> 00:01:15,240 Speaker 1: in the bengals first ever draft in nineteen sixty eight, 20 00:01:15,520 --> 00:01:19,240 Speaker 1: who became a revolutionary player for his ability to stretch 21 00:01:19,240 --> 00:01:22,360 Speaker 1: the field like a wide receiver at the tight end position. 22 00:01:22,959 --> 00:01:26,880 Speaker 1: After ten seasons with the Bengals, featuring multiple Pro Bowl appearances, 23 00:01:27,240 --> 00:01:30,760 Speaker 1: Bob got into broadcasting and was the grandfather of sports 24 00:01:30,800 --> 00:01:35,360 Speaker 1: talk radio in Cincinnati. He eventually moved to NBC Sports, 25 00:01:35,400 --> 00:01:39,200 Speaker 1: where he called Super Bowls, the Olympics, the PGA Tour, 26 00:01:39,600 --> 00:01:42,319 Speaker 1: and much more. Bob is in the Pro Football Hall 27 00:01:42,360 --> 00:01:47,160 Speaker 1: of Fame for his lifetime achievement in broadcasting. My condolences 28 00:01:47,200 --> 00:01:50,840 Speaker 1: to his family and wide circle of friends from all 29 00:01:50,880 --> 00:01:54,520 Speaker 1: walks of life. And later in this podcast, I'll replay 30 00:01:54,560 --> 00:01:57,840 Speaker 1: my fun Facts conversation with Bob where he shares some 31 00:01:58,120 --> 00:02:03,240 Speaker 1: incredible stories about his remarkable life. But up first, it's 32 00:02:03,240 --> 00:02:07,960 Speaker 1: the radio replays from Sunday's roller coaster ride at pay 33 00:02:07,960 --> 00:02:12,000 Speaker 1: Course Stadium. This kick launched high and deep. Charlie Jones 34 00:02:12,040 --> 00:02:14,280 Speaker 1: catches at the one and sprints up the middle of 35 00:02:14,280 --> 00:02:16,799 Speaker 1: the field. He's to the twenty to thirty. It's him 36 00:02:16,880 --> 00:02:17,800 Speaker 1: versus the kicker. 37 00:02:18,120 --> 00:02:27,320 Speaker 2: Jones down the sideline thirty twenty ten five touchdown. Charlie 38 00:02:27,440 --> 00:02:33,120 Speaker 2: Jones with his second kick return touchdown of his NFL career. 39 00:02:33,680 --> 00:02:37,360 Speaker 2: He does a jungle jump into the crowd and the 40 00:02:37,520 --> 00:02:40,880 Speaker 2: Bengals have scored eleven seconds into the game. 41 00:02:41,040 --> 00:02:46,080 Speaker 3: That is incredible. Eleven seconds and the Bengals have seven 42 00:02:46,120 --> 00:02:46,680 Speaker 3: on the board. 43 00:02:46,800 --> 00:02:50,120 Speaker 1: Fourth down in goal from the two, Caleb Williams will 44 00:02:50,160 --> 00:02:52,639 Speaker 1: be in the gun, one receiver out to each side 45 00:02:52,639 --> 00:02:55,480 Speaker 1: of the formation. It is a reverse, then a flip 46 00:02:55,520 --> 00:02:57,639 Speaker 1: back to DJ Moore. He throws a pass for the 47 00:02:57,720 --> 00:03:02,440 Speaker 1: quarterback and it's caught in the end zone by Caleb Williams. 48 00:03:02,440 --> 00:03:06,120 Speaker 1: Where here's all by his loathsome Sakias goes in motion. 49 00:03:06,280 --> 00:03:08,640 Speaker 1: They toss it forward to him on a jet sweep. 50 00:03:08,800 --> 00:03:14,160 Speaker 1: He's inside the ten, lunging for the pylon. Touchdown. Chicago man. 51 00:03:14,160 --> 00:03:18,080 Speaker 1: That's clever player. Shotgun snap to Flacco, drops back five steps, 52 00:03:18,080 --> 00:03:20,040 Speaker 1: fires a deep ball left side. 53 00:03:20,160 --> 00:03:26,200 Speaker 4: T Higgins comes away with the football, touchdown Bengals. He 54 00:03:26,600 --> 00:03:30,280 Speaker 4: just ripped it away from the defensive back in coverage 55 00:03:30,560 --> 00:03:34,640 Speaker 4: and the Bengals take the lead with one twelve left 56 00:03:34,680 --> 00:03:35,480 Speaker 4: in the half. 57 00:03:36,040 --> 00:03:39,360 Speaker 5: He took it right off the backside of right right. 58 00:03:39,480 --> 00:03:41,760 Speaker 3: Never found the football. Right was wrong. 59 00:03:42,040 --> 00:03:43,840 Speaker 1: Three receivers out to the left went out to the 60 00:03:43,920 --> 00:03:46,440 Speaker 1: right Williams back to throw, fires a pass into the 61 00:03:46,480 --> 00:03:49,440 Speaker 1: end zone. Loveland with the catch, holds on to the 62 00:03:49,480 --> 00:03:53,360 Speaker 1: ball after being smacked by Geno Stone. It's a touchdown 63 00:03:53,400 --> 00:03:56,280 Speaker 1: for Chicago. Second down in goal. The balls in between 64 00:03:56,320 --> 00:03:59,320 Speaker 1: the two and the threes. Shotgun snap caught by Flacco, 65 00:03:59,400 --> 00:04:02,000 Speaker 1: throws into the end zone. T Higgins, you know the 66 00:04:02,080 --> 00:04:05,360 Speaker 1: catch knocks over the pilon. They are not giving him 67 00:04:05,400 --> 00:04:08,440 Speaker 1: the touchdown really, even though he knocked over the pylon. 68 00:04:09,520 --> 00:04:12,000 Speaker 1: It's going to be discussed for now. It has been 69 00:04:12,040 --> 00:04:13,640 Speaker 1: spotted just short, and I. 70 00:04:13,600 --> 00:04:17,440 Speaker 3: Think the bigger official on the back of the end zone, 71 00:04:17,720 --> 00:04:20,440 Speaker 3: I think he may overrule and say that was a touchdown. 72 00:04:20,760 --> 00:04:21,120 Speaker 6: It is. 73 00:04:21,200 --> 00:04:24,280 Speaker 1: There's the touchdown Singo Bears trying to take the lead back. 74 00:04:24,279 --> 00:04:27,320 Speaker 1: They're down by three here in the third quarter. Williams 75 00:04:27,360 --> 00:04:29,599 Speaker 1: tosses it. It's a run to the left for Brown 76 00:04:29,640 --> 00:04:34,760 Speaker 1: inside the fifteen ten five touchdown one to go at 77 00:04:34,760 --> 00:04:38,840 Speaker 1: the twenty three of Chicago. Shotgun snap Flaco throwing up 78 00:04:38,880 --> 00:04:42,560 Speaker 1: the field. It is caught by Noah Fans running up 79 00:04:42,560 --> 00:04:46,640 Speaker 1: the seam. He catches the touchdown pass and the Bengals 80 00:04:46,640 --> 00:04:49,760 Speaker 1: will go for two with one forty three to go. 81 00:04:50,240 --> 00:04:53,120 Speaker 1: Flaco drops back, throws it into the end zone and 82 00:04:53,200 --> 00:04:56,960 Speaker 1: it is caught for the two point conversion by t Higgins. 83 00:04:57,480 --> 00:05:01,160 Speaker 1: He has two touchdown catches and a two point conversion. 84 00:05:01,360 --> 00:05:05,799 Speaker 1: So the Bengals are down by six forty one thirty five. 85 00:05:06,040 --> 00:05:09,640 Speaker 1: They're gonna try for an on sidekick and if they 86 00:05:09,680 --> 00:05:12,640 Speaker 1: recover it, there would be plenty of time left to 87 00:05:12,720 --> 00:05:16,360 Speaker 1: try for a game winning touchdown. Five teammates on each 88 00:05:16,480 --> 00:05:19,599 Speaker 1: side of Evan McPherson, so it's hard to tell which 89 00:05:19,640 --> 00:05:22,320 Speaker 1: way he's going to kick it. He stands about three 90 00:05:22,400 --> 00:05:25,920 Speaker 1: yards away from the ball, He approaches it, kicks it left. 91 00:05:26,520 --> 00:05:29,440 Speaker 1: It is bouncing short of ten yards, but it hit 92 00:05:29,480 --> 00:05:32,960 Speaker 1: a member of the Chicago Bears, giving the Bengals a 93 00:05:33,080 --> 00:05:36,840 Speaker 1: chance to recover even though it did not go ten yards. 94 00:05:36,839 --> 00:05:39,320 Speaker 1: If the Bears touch it first, that makes it a 95 00:05:39,360 --> 00:05:40,080 Speaker 1: live ball, and. 96 00:05:40,120 --> 00:05:42,320 Speaker 5: There's a wrestling match going on for that football. 97 00:05:42,360 --> 00:05:47,640 Speaker 3: Now, Man strong hands win Benindo situations. Man is It's 98 00:05:47,720 --> 00:05:49,520 Speaker 3: like you're fighting for your life in that pot. 99 00:05:49,600 --> 00:05:52,920 Speaker 1: The officials are trying to pull players off the pile 100 00:05:53,720 --> 00:05:56,160 Speaker 1: as the fight goes on for the ball on the 101 00:05:56,160 --> 00:05:58,919 Speaker 1: ground at the forty three yard line. 102 00:05:59,120 --> 00:06:00,800 Speaker 5: One officials yell Bengals ball. 103 00:06:01,080 --> 00:06:02,239 Speaker 1: The Bengals have recovered. 104 00:06:02,320 --> 00:06:02,960 Speaker 2: Bengals ball. 105 00:06:03,480 --> 00:06:07,360 Speaker 1: The Bengals have recovered. With one minute and forty two 106 00:06:07,440 --> 00:06:11,040 Speaker 1: seconds to go, Flaco ready for the shotgun snap. He 107 00:06:11,200 --> 00:06:13,800 Speaker 1: catches short drop, firing. 108 00:06:13,440 --> 00:06:17,920 Speaker 2: Into the EG zone, caught by Andre Yo Si Bash. 109 00:06:18,480 --> 00:06:24,120 Speaker 1: The Bengals have tied it. Flacco raising both arms triumphantly, 110 00:06:24,640 --> 00:06:28,200 Speaker 1: and now an extra point by money Mack could give 111 00:06:28,320 --> 00:06:32,479 Speaker 1: Cincinnati a forty two to forty one lead with fifty 112 00:06:32,520 --> 00:06:35,120 Speaker 1: four seconds to go, and Joe Flacco. 113 00:06:34,920 --> 00:06:40,000 Speaker 3: Just calmly slapping skin, slapping palms with teammates and coaches 114 00:06:40,240 --> 00:06:42,800 Speaker 3: as he works his way to the Bengals bench. I'm 115 00:06:42,839 --> 00:06:46,280 Speaker 3: telling you, man, there's ice water in that man's veins. 116 00:06:46,480 --> 00:06:49,440 Speaker 1: Williams in the gun with Manungai to his left, Bengals 117 00:06:49,480 --> 00:06:52,840 Speaker 1: creeping up toward the line defensively. Williams drops back to throw. 118 00:06:52,880 --> 00:06:55,400 Speaker 1: Here comes a blitz, doesn't get home. Throw down the 119 00:06:55,440 --> 00:06:58,800 Speaker 1: middle of the field, caught Loveland at the twenty fifteen 120 00:06:59,160 --> 00:07:05,760 Speaker 1: ten five touchdown Chicago with seventeen seconds to go, a 121 00:07:05,880 --> 00:07:10,920 Speaker 1: fifty eight yard touchdown pass to tight end Colston Loveland 122 00:07:12,280 --> 00:07:16,560 Speaker 1: and the Chicago Bears are going to beat Cincinnati despite 123 00:07:16,880 --> 00:07:19,040 Speaker 1: the heroics of Joe Flaco. 124 00:07:19,040 --> 00:07:24,640 Speaker 3: Incredible, incredible and mean you score forty two points and 125 00:07:24,680 --> 00:07:29,360 Speaker 3: you're gonna lose' that's incomprehensible. And you have a quarterback 126 00:07:29,440 --> 00:07:33,560 Speaker 3: that throws for over four hundred yards and four touchdowns wasted. 127 00:07:35,680 --> 00:07:37,960 Speaker 5: Frustrating. It's a frustrating game. 128 00:07:38,360 --> 00:07:43,200 Speaker 1: The final score Chicago forty seven, Cincinnati forty two. If 129 00:07:43,240 --> 00:07:46,680 Speaker 1: not for Chicago's game winning touchdown with seventeen seconds to go, 130 00:07:47,000 --> 00:07:50,160 Speaker 1: it could have been, maybe should have been, one of 131 00:07:50,240 --> 00:07:53,880 Speaker 1: the most memorable wins in the bengals fifty eight year history. 132 00:07:54,440 --> 00:07:57,400 Speaker 1: And what can you say about Joe Flacco Playing at 133 00:07:57,400 --> 00:08:00,400 Speaker 1: his two hundred and twentieth NFL game with an injured 134 00:08:00,440 --> 00:08:04,080 Speaker 1: shoulder and a graying beard, Flacco threw for a career 135 00:08:04,200 --> 00:08:08,520 Speaker 1: high four hundred and seventy yards. His previous high was 136 00:08:08,560 --> 00:08:11,520 Speaker 1: three eighty nine, and it was so long ago that 137 00:08:11,600 --> 00:08:16,280 Speaker 1: the opponent was Saint Louis. In four starts for Cincinnati, 138 00:08:16,320 --> 00:08:19,800 Speaker 1: Flacco is averaging more than three hundred and thirteen passing 139 00:08:19,880 --> 00:08:23,760 Speaker 1: yards a game, with eleven touchdowns, two picks, and a 140 00:08:23,800 --> 00:08:27,800 Speaker 1: passer rating of one oh two point six. More importantly, 141 00:08:28,160 --> 00:08:31,840 Speaker 1: the Bengals are averaging nearly thirty three points a game 142 00:08:32,120 --> 00:08:36,199 Speaker 1: with Flacco as the starting quarterback. Here's Joe after another 143 00:08:36,640 --> 00:08:38,040 Speaker 1: remarkable performance. 144 00:08:39,200 --> 00:08:40,280 Speaker 5: Oh it's tough, you know. 145 00:08:40,559 --> 00:08:43,760 Speaker 7: I mean, but anytime you're on the losing end, it's tough. 146 00:08:45,080 --> 00:08:47,160 Speaker 7: I think when you've when you've played a lot of games, 147 00:08:47,720 --> 00:08:49,960 Speaker 7: it's not the way you lose doesn't make it any 148 00:08:49,960 --> 00:08:53,120 Speaker 7: worse necessarily, you know. I think you learn that these 149 00:08:53,280 --> 00:08:56,319 Speaker 7: these games come down to the last minute, and you 150 00:08:56,360 --> 00:08:58,920 Speaker 7: gotta be ready for anything. And you know a win 151 00:08:59,000 --> 00:09:01,720 Speaker 7: to win, a loss is lost. If you don't keep 152 00:09:01,760 --> 00:09:04,079 Speaker 7: your head down and and and and go to work, 153 00:09:04,880 --> 00:09:07,880 Speaker 7: then it's going to be a long, miserable season for you. 154 00:09:07,880 --> 00:09:10,760 Speaker 7: You can't get distracted, uh and you can't you know 155 00:09:10,840 --> 00:09:13,120 Speaker 7: you're going to be emotional after a game, but at 156 00:09:13,120 --> 00:09:15,920 Speaker 7: some point you've got to let that go. This is 157 00:09:15,960 --> 00:09:18,559 Speaker 7: our profession, you know. We we do this for a 158 00:09:18,760 --> 00:09:22,760 Speaker 7: living and we take pride in doing it. And I 159 00:09:22,800 --> 00:09:25,720 Speaker 7: hope that you would continue to take pride in doing 160 00:09:25,720 --> 00:09:28,280 Speaker 7: what you do for a living, no matter what the 161 00:09:28,320 --> 00:09:31,680 Speaker 7: outcome is. And yeah, I mean maybe that's easier said 162 00:09:31,679 --> 00:09:35,079 Speaker 7: than done, but that's what you got to do, because 163 00:09:35,440 --> 00:09:36,560 Speaker 7: you know this leg will eat. 164 00:09:36,480 --> 00:09:37,320 Speaker 6: You up and. 165 00:09:38,960 --> 00:09:42,920 Speaker 7: It will not be it will not be good. I'm sure. 166 00:09:43,320 --> 00:09:46,720 Speaker 7: I'm sure Baltimore isn't sitting there, you know, tucking their 167 00:09:46,760 --> 00:09:49,080 Speaker 7: tail between their legs. With the record they have, They're 168 00:09:49,120 --> 00:09:53,080 Speaker 7: probably motivated and excited about the opportunity, opportunity that they 169 00:09:53,120 --> 00:09:56,320 Speaker 7: have going forward. I don't think we can look at 170 00:09:56,360 --> 00:09:58,959 Speaker 7: it any different. Every one of us have enough to 171 00:09:58,960 --> 00:10:01,800 Speaker 7: worry about on our own that you can't be wiring 172 00:10:01,840 --> 00:10:04,840 Speaker 7: about everybody else, because then all of a sudden, once again, 173 00:10:04,880 --> 00:10:06,640 Speaker 7: it's going to be a tough eight weeks for us 174 00:10:06,760 --> 00:10:10,480 Speaker 7: if we're worrying about what other people are doing. I know, 175 00:10:11,040 --> 00:10:14,640 Speaker 7: team is one, it's one team. In order to have 176 00:10:14,720 --> 00:10:19,480 Speaker 7: that one team, you need to focus on yourself and 177 00:10:19,559 --> 00:10:20,280 Speaker 7: do your job. 178 00:10:21,040 --> 00:10:23,160 Speaker 8: And I get I get it. 179 00:10:23,160 --> 00:10:26,640 Speaker 7: It can get emotional. But you know, there's times to 180 00:10:26,640 --> 00:10:31,080 Speaker 7: be emotional and show people that. And but usually when 181 00:10:31,320 --> 00:10:34,920 Speaker 7: those times are good, in good things and towards people 182 00:10:34,960 --> 00:10:39,960 Speaker 7: you love. And I think if we're emotional, then we 183 00:10:40,000 --> 00:10:42,400 Speaker 7: should come at it with an angle of this is 184 00:10:42,440 --> 00:10:46,760 Speaker 7: my brother, as opposed to the opposite of that. I 185 00:10:46,800 --> 00:10:50,360 Speaker 7: just think that's what good, hardworking, tough people do. They 186 00:10:50,360 --> 00:10:52,400 Speaker 7: don't look at other people. They look inward and it 187 00:10:52,400 --> 00:10:56,240 Speaker 7: doesn't matter what the situation is. They look inward at 188 00:10:56,240 --> 00:10:56,960 Speaker 7: the tail end there. 189 00:10:57,040 --> 00:11:00,439 Speaker 1: Joe is obviously responding to questions about a potential rift 190 00:11:00,840 --> 00:11:04,200 Speaker 1: between the offense and defense after the Bengals scored eighty 191 00:11:04,240 --> 00:11:06,559 Speaker 1: points in the last two weeks and did not come 192 00:11:06,559 --> 00:11:10,520 Speaker 1: away with a win. Listen, it's human nature to be 193 00:11:10,640 --> 00:11:14,400 Speaker 1: frustrated and angry you are, so why wouldn't they be. 194 00:11:15,160 --> 00:11:18,800 Speaker 1: But football is the ultimate team sport, and on Monday, 195 00:11:19,200 --> 00:11:22,240 Speaker 1: roughly seventy players will be back in that locker room 196 00:11:22,600 --> 00:11:26,600 Speaker 1: working together toward a common goal. Here are Ted Carris, 197 00:11:26,920 --> 00:11:30,840 Speaker 1: Chase Brown, and Orrin Burks on one of the craziest 198 00:11:30,880 --> 00:11:32,600 Speaker 1: games they'll ever play. 199 00:11:33,640 --> 00:11:34,600 Speaker 5: It's a crazy ending. 200 00:11:36,240 --> 00:11:39,000 Speaker 9: You know, hard to denote something as a classic when 201 00:11:39,040 --> 00:11:40,079 Speaker 9: you lose, but that was. 202 00:11:41,520 --> 00:11:42,360 Speaker 6: At an all time game. 203 00:11:42,520 --> 00:11:44,120 Speaker 10: Just don't turn on each other, like we we know 204 00:11:44,160 --> 00:11:45,679 Speaker 10: how they can play. They played really well at the 205 00:11:45,720 --> 00:11:48,040 Speaker 10: start of the season, like they did, and they like 206 00:11:48,280 --> 00:11:50,400 Speaker 10: they were carrying us on their back, so, you know, 207 00:11:50,440 --> 00:11:53,679 Speaker 10: in other words, stepping up. I think like I think like, 208 00:11:54,840 --> 00:11:57,320 Speaker 10: you know, we just got to play complimentary football, like 209 00:11:57,360 --> 00:11:59,520 Speaker 10: we put the ball in the end zone and go 210 00:11:59,600 --> 00:12:03,640 Speaker 10: up a play at the end finish game like just ended. 211 00:12:04,080 --> 00:12:04,640 Speaker 6: Like that's it. 212 00:12:04,720 --> 00:12:06,800 Speaker 10: Like, that's that's like, that's what we need to do. 213 00:12:06,840 --> 00:12:10,440 Speaker 10: Just end game, like make them, make them get us 214 00:12:10,440 --> 00:12:12,680 Speaker 10: the ball back, let us go to twenty two victory 215 00:12:12,720 --> 00:12:14,600 Speaker 10: and let's end the game. That's how that's like, that's 216 00:12:14,600 --> 00:12:18,559 Speaker 10: how I feel. We're taking steps forward so offensively. 217 00:12:17,960 --> 00:12:18,520 Speaker 6: So that's good. 218 00:12:18,720 --> 00:12:20,280 Speaker 8: You know, the offense did a great job driving down 219 00:12:20,280 --> 00:12:21,840 Speaker 8: the field, putting this in a position to win, and 220 00:12:22,400 --> 00:12:25,040 Speaker 8: we just came up short. And you know, there's no 221 00:12:25,040 --> 00:12:27,480 Speaker 8: point in the fingers is again like everybody looking internally 222 00:12:27,520 --> 00:12:29,600 Speaker 8: at ourselves, how can I be better? Uh, just being 223 00:12:29,640 --> 00:12:31,800 Speaker 8: the best rison ourselves out there on the field and collectively, 224 00:12:31,800 --> 00:12:33,360 Speaker 8: that's what we're gonna like the results if we can 225 00:12:33,640 --> 00:12:34,360 Speaker 8: continue to do that. 226 00:12:34,679 --> 00:12:37,360 Speaker 9: I don't say anything to anyone right now. I'll let 227 00:12:37,400 --> 00:12:41,640 Speaker 9: everyone be raw in their own heads. And you know, 228 00:12:42,200 --> 00:12:44,880 Speaker 9: a lot of leadership. There's nothing you can say after 229 00:12:44,920 --> 00:12:46,600 Speaker 9: a heartbreaker like that. So you just got to come 230 00:12:46,600 --> 00:12:48,920 Speaker 9: to work. I think we're coming in tomorrow and then 231 00:12:48,920 --> 00:12:50,920 Speaker 9: when we get back from the break, I mean, you 232 00:12:51,000 --> 00:12:54,120 Speaker 9: just got to show up every day with a ferocity 233 00:12:54,240 --> 00:12:56,560 Speaker 9: to compete and to try and win ball games. So 234 00:12:57,160 --> 00:12:59,120 Speaker 9: I don't have some raw ross speech. It's going to 235 00:12:59,160 --> 00:13:03,960 Speaker 9: make anyone feel better today, but you know, excited for 236 00:13:04,000 --> 00:13:04,920 Speaker 9: the second half of the season. 237 00:13:05,760 --> 00:13:09,160 Speaker 1: The Bengals are now three and six after the defense 238 00:13:09,320 --> 00:13:11,920 Speaker 1: was the key to victory and a seventeen to sixteen 239 00:13:12,280 --> 00:13:15,520 Speaker 1: Week one win in Cleveland. The Bengals have allowed twenty 240 00:13:15,559 --> 00:13:19,320 Speaker 1: seven or more points in every game since. Here's Zach 241 00:13:19,400 --> 00:13:22,199 Speaker 1: Taylor after Sunday's loss to Chicago. 242 00:13:23,240 --> 00:13:27,600 Speaker 11: Can't believe it, can't believe it. Things right there, and 243 00:13:27,600 --> 00:13:29,560 Speaker 11: then we just we don't find a way to get 244 00:13:29,600 --> 00:13:30,839 Speaker 11: it done and win a game. We just got to 245 00:13:30,840 --> 00:13:33,040 Speaker 11: make one play, just one play, and some of these 246 00:13:33,040 --> 00:13:36,400 Speaker 11: losses turn into wins. And so again we just got 247 00:13:36,520 --> 00:13:39,600 Speaker 11: to his coaches, we're gonna find this week, finding a way, 248 00:13:41,760 --> 00:13:44,800 Speaker 11: finding a way to help everybody and get it done. 249 00:13:44,840 --> 00:13:48,160 Speaker 11: Because this is it's sick. It's sick to lose like that. 250 00:13:48,240 --> 00:13:48,679 Speaker 11: It's sick. 251 00:13:50,720 --> 00:13:51,400 Speaker 6: That's what happened. 252 00:13:51,440 --> 00:13:53,040 Speaker 11: So we got to own it, and we got to 253 00:13:53,080 --> 00:13:55,439 Speaker 11: keep finding ways to improve and keep finding ways to 254 00:13:55,480 --> 00:14:00,600 Speaker 11: find a win. The last two weeks hasn't happened sick 255 00:14:00,800 --> 00:14:03,120 Speaker 11: right now, But all we can do is pick ourselves 256 00:14:03,200 --> 00:14:05,760 Speaker 11: up and keep fighting and and That's the beauty of 257 00:14:05,760 --> 00:14:07,520 Speaker 11: being in this profession and be in this locker room 258 00:14:07,640 --> 00:14:08,959 Speaker 11: is is we see what. 259 00:14:08,880 --> 00:14:09,280 Speaker 3: We're made of. 260 00:14:09,360 --> 00:14:11,040 Speaker 11: We're gonna keep fighting. We we know it was gonna 261 00:14:11,040 --> 00:14:15,320 Speaker 11: be pretty loud noise out there, criticism, It's deserved when 262 00:14:15,400 --> 00:14:17,920 Speaker 11: when we're the record we are and the results we've had, 263 00:14:19,120 --> 00:14:21,080 Speaker 11: We're gonna keep showing our character and keep fighting and 264 00:14:21,120 --> 00:14:22,960 Speaker 11: find a way to lead these guys and find a 265 00:14:22,960 --> 00:14:26,200 Speaker 11: way to to make some plays and get some wins 266 00:14:26,240 --> 00:14:29,160 Speaker 11: and and keep the season alive. That's what we're gonna do. 267 00:14:29,920 --> 00:14:33,200 Speaker 11: What Joe Flacco did for us this week, You'll never forget, 268 00:14:33,520 --> 00:14:37,800 Speaker 11: you know. And and I mean just knowing what our 269 00:14:37,880 --> 00:14:40,000 Speaker 11: quarterback room is working through right now, what Joe Burrow 270 00:14:40,080 --> 00:14:42,480 Speaker 11: is doing to and Joe Flacco, and what Jake's all 271 00:14:42,520 --> 00:14:45,000 Speaker 11: the things he's done, It's a really mentally tough room 272 00:14:45,040 --> 00:14:48,560 Speaker 11: that leads by example. Joe Flacco got the opportunity to 273 00:14:48,560 --> 00:14:51,080 Speaker 11: show that this week. That's him. Joe Burrow working like 274 00:14:51,120 --> 00:14:53,440 Speaker 11: crazy behind the scenes to do everything he can to 275 00:14:53,440 --> 00:14:57,560 Speaker 11: help our team. Flacco, I mean, he couldn't. He could 276 00:14:57,800 --> 00:15:00,200 Speaker 11: barely lift his arm this week, you know, and he's 277 00:15:00,200 --> 00:15:01,760 Speaker 11: willing to go put himself out there for a bunch 278 00:15:01,800 --> 00:15:05,160 Speaker 11: of teammates that he's been with for three weeks. You know, 279 00:15:05,160 --> 00:15:06,600 Speaker 11: he's a football player, that's what he's out of here 280 00:15:06,640 --> 00:15:08,120 Speaker 11: and said, he said, I play football for a living. 281 00:15:08,160 --> 00:15:11,760 Speaker 11: That's what I do. And and oftentimes you need that 282 00:15:11,800 --> 00:15:12,600 Speaker 11: throughout the locker room. 283 00:15:12,640 --> 00:15:12,840 Speaker 1: Guys. 284 00:15:12,840 --> 00:15:15,280 Speaker 11: They're just football players and they remember that and they'll 285 00:15:15,280 --> 00:15:16,720 Speaker 11: go out there and do whatever it takes to help 286 00:15:16,720 --> 00:15:18,560 Speaker 11: their team win a game, no matter what normach of 287 00:15:18,560 --> 00:15:20,320 Speaker 11: the circumstances. Got a bye week next week, you get 288 00:15:20,360 --> 00:15:22,440 Speaker 11: a chance to get rested up. That's how Joe Flacco 289 00:15:22,520 --> 00:15:24,680 Speaker 11: looks at it. And so he went out there and 290 00:15:24,880 --> 00:15:26,480 Speaker 11: put himself on the line. I'm sure he's gonna be 291 00:15:26,480 --> 00:15:29,880 Speaker 11: in a ton of pain tomorrow, and we'll give him 292 00:15:29,920 --> 00:15:31,360 Speaker 11: ten days off and we'll see if you can come 293 00:15:31,400 --> 00:15:34,720 Speaker 11: back and do it again. It's frustrating for everybody to 294 00:15:34,760 --> 00:15:36,440 Speaker 11: put in the work that's being put in and this 295 00:15:36,520 --> 00:15:39,120 Speaker 11: is the result we've had. It's it's frustrating and and uh, 296 00:15:40,040 --> 00:15:41,800 Speaker 11: you know, sometimes you got to take a deep breath 297 00:15:42,000 --> 00:15:44,480 Speaker 11: and then then come back to work and try to 298 00:15:44,560 --> 00:15:48,440 Speaker 11: uplift others. That's I faced a lot of diversity here 299 00:15:50,000 --> 00:15:52,200 Speaker 11: and the only thing I know how to do is 300 00:15:52,480 --> 00:15:54,200 Speaker 11: keep trying to lift people up. That doesn't mean we 301 00:15:54,280 --> 00:15:57,480 Speaker 11: run from corrections, that doesn't mean we don't give criticism. 302 00:15:57,600 --> 00:15:59,520 Speaker 11: But at the same time, the easy thing to do 303 00:15:59,600 --> 00:16:02,320 Speaker 11: is question and everything and point fingers and and and 304 00:16:03,000 --> 00:16:06,040 Speaker 11: uh be negative and and be an energy vampire in 305 00:16:06,040 --> 00:16:08,160 Speaker 11: a lot of ways. And I think we got enough 306 00:16:08,200 --> 00:16:09,880 Speaker 11: guys that just want to continue to lift people up 307 00:16:09,920 --> 00:16:14,040 Speaker 11: and finanswers, find solutions, help where they can make myself better, 308 00:16:14,160 --> 00:16:16,360 Speaker 11: make the person next to me better. And that's that's 309 00:16:16,360 --> 00:16:18,400 Speaker 11: all I know how to do. That's how we built 310 00:16:18,400 --> 00:16:20,440 Speaker 11: the coaching staff that does that too. We built the 311 00:16:20,520 --> 00:16:23,200 Speaker 11: locker room full of leaders and great men that are 312 00:16:23,360 --> 00:16:25,560 Speaker 11: that are falling suit there and that's what I've seen 313 00:16:25,600 --> 00:16:27,200 Speaker 11: from them. And that's just what we're going to continue 314 00:16:27,240 --> 00:16:29,760 Speaker 11: to do. And I don't have something I can say 315 00:16:29,800 --> 00:16:31,680 Speaker 11: that's going to say we we We're just going to 316 00:16:31,720 --> 00:16:33,440 Speaker 11: fix this and things are going to be better. It's 317 00:16:33,440 --> 00:16:35,800 Speaker 11: not that simple. I wish it was, but I can 318 00:16:35,840 --> 00:16:38,440 Speaker 11: promise you we're gonna fight like kel to to keep 319 00:16:38,600 --> 00:16:40,800 Speaker 11: keep finding wins here and get the season turned around. 320 00:16:41,600 --> 00:16:44,120 Speaker 1: The Bengals have a by next Sunday before a road 321 00:16:44,160 --> 00:16:47,600 Speaker 1: game in Pittsburgh. The Steelers beat the Colts on Sunday 322 00:16:47,640 --> 00:16:50,640 Speaker 1: to improve to five and three, meaning the Bengals are 323 00:16:50,640 --> 00:16:53,760 Speaker 1: two and a half games back in the division. Cincinnati 324 00:16:53,880 --> 00:16:57,240 Speaker 1: is a half game behind the second place Ravens. So 325 00:16:57,600 --> 00:16:59,280 Speaker 1: if the Bengals are going to stay in the hunt 326 00:16:59,440 --> 00:17:01,520 Speaker 1: in the a f SEE North, they're going to have 327 00:17:01,560 --> 00:17:04,760 Speaker 1: to win their head to head matchups against those two teams. 328 00:17:05,280 --> 00:17:10,560 Speaker 1: Now time for the radio guy's recap. Let's start with 329 00:17:10,600 --> 00:17:14,400 Speaker 1: the obvious positive, and that is the latest remarkable performance 330 00:17:14,440 --> 00:17:17,639 Speaker 1: by Joe Flacco. Four hundred and seventy yards three oh 331 00:17:17,800 --> 00:17:21,159 Speaker 1: five in the second half, four touchdowns, what should have 332 00:17:21,200 --> 00:17:24,480 Speaker 1: been one of the great miraculous comeback victories in Bengals history. 333 00:17:25,400 --> 00:17:27,920 Speaker 1: I'm running out of words to describe the guy. It's incredible. 334 00:17:28,200 --> 00:17:30,440 Speaker 5: Three hundred and five yards in the second half, Are 335 00:17:30,440 --> 00:17:33,840 Speaker 5: you kidding me? That's absurd. I mean six and ten 336 00:17:33,920 --> 00:17:38,880 Speaker 5: yard passing day, that equates to eight touchdowns, that equates 337 00:17:38,920 --> 00:17:43,160 Speaker 5: to as well. Those numbers are incomprehensible, they're unattainable. Yet 338 00:17:43,200 --> 00:17:46,400 Speaker 5: he's doing it. You tip the cap to him. Boy, 339 00:17:46,560 --> 00:17:49,439 Speaker 5: here's a guy that understands the game of football. It 340 00:17:49,480 --> 00:17:52,400 Speaker 5: hasn't passed him by. He knows exactly what he's doing. 341 00:17:52,560 --> 00:17:55,399 Speaker 5: He knows how he's supposed to do it, what he's 342 00:17:55,400 --> 00:17:59,200 Speaker 5: supposed to do, and how he's supposed to get there 343 00:17:59,440 --> 00:18:04,119 Speaker 5: to get it done. And his teammates love him. They 344 00:18:04,200 --> 00:18:07,360 Speaker 5: worshiped the ground he walks on. Really, I mean, they're 345 00:18:08,080 --> 00:18:11,320 Speaker 5: waiting to hear his next words with baited breath. You know, 346 00:18:11,359 --> 00:18:15,680 Speaker 5: it's a remarkable thing to watch, and they're responding to him, 347 00:18:16,280 --> 00:18:19,840 Speaker 5: and you know he's got weapons to throw to. Jamar 348 00:18:19,920 --> 00:18:23,520 Speaker 5: Chase t. Higgins had big days. You'll see made some 349 00:18:23,560 --> 00:18:26,720 Speaker 5: big plays as well, But three hundred and five yards 350 00:18:27,119 --> 00:18:31,080 Speaker 5: is you know, you don't dream. I guess you do 351 00:18:31,200 --> 00:18:33,879 Speaker 5: dream about it when you're a young player, high school, 352 00:18:33,920 --> 00:18:38,000 Speaker 5: college or NFL player, but to actually achieve it is 353 00:18:38,359 --> 00:18:39,159 Speaker 5: yet another. 354 00:18:38,960 --> 00:18:44,040 Speaker 1: Thing in a half, just amazing, ridiculous. Let's discuss something 355 00:18:44,080 --> 00:18:46,880 Speaker 1: that we briefly discussed on the air late in the game. 356 00:18:47,280 --> 00:18:49,879 Speaker 1: Joe Flacco is forty years old. There have been a 357 00:18:49,880 --> 00:18:52,320 Speaker 1: couple of instances within the last few years where it 358 00:18:52,359 --> 00:18:55,560 Speaker 1: looked like his career was over. We both agreed late 359 00:18:55,600 --> 00:18:57,880 Speaker 1: in the broadcast that if he's interested in coming back 360 00:18:57,960 --> 00:19:01,880 Speaker 1: next year as Joe Burrows back up at age forty one. 361 00:19:02,240 --> 00:19:03,879 Speaker 1: I'd sign them to that deal right now. 362 00:19:04,160 --> 00:19:07,680 Speaker 5: I agree one hundred thousand percent. I think that would 363 00:19:07,720 --> 00:19:09,840 Speaker 5: be the best one to two punch, the best tandem 364 00:19:10,800 --> 00:19:13,920 Speaker 5: to quarterback tandem the National Football League has ever had. 365 00:19:14,359 --> 00:19:17,400 Speaker 5: I'm not talking about it just this year. I mean, 366 00:19:17,920 --> 00:19:21,520 Speaker 5: these two guys, they know how to play football. They 367 00:19:21,560 --> 00:19:24,320 Speaker 5: love the game. They're all about the game. The game 368 00:19:24,359 --> 00:19:27,119 Speaker 5: is a big part of their life. They're football players. 369 00:19:27,119 --> 00:19:29,719 Speaker 5: They're proud to be football players, loud and proud to 370 00:19:29,760 --> 00:19:32,800 Speaker 5: be football players. You know. And Joe Burrow is on 371 00:19:32,840 --> 00:19:36,399 Speaker 5: the field today supporting the efforts to Joe Flacco. That 372 00:19:36,520 --> 00:19:39,080 Speaker 5: was good to see. I think they've got a good relationship. 373 00:19:39,160 --> 00:19:44,280 Speaker 5: I think they've bonded. You know, they probably have spent 374 00:19:44,400 --> 00:19:47,720 Speaker 5: quite a bit of time together talking football, talking other things, 375 00:19:48,119 --> 00:19:50,800 Speaker 5: you know, in life about life. Blacko's that kind of guy. 376 00:19:51,200 --> 00:19:55,320 Speaker 5: Blacko's you know, he's he's a stage veteran football player, 377 00:19:55,359 --> 00:19:58,720 Speaker 5: eighteen seasons in the National Football League. That alone would 378 00:19:58,720 --> 00:20:01,400 Speaker 5: be something for Joe Burrow to into and find out 379 00:20:01,400 --> 00:20:04,000 Speaker 5: how the hell he's accomplished that. And being able to 380 00:20:04,359 --> 00:20:07,680 Speaker 5: stay out of harm's way and avoid injury for as 381 00:20:07,680 --> 00:20:10,120 Speaker 5: many snaps, as many hits as he's taken out there. 382 00:20:11,160 --> 00:20:15,480 Speaker 1: I think there are x'es and o's factors that could 383 00:20:15,480 --> 00:20:17,960 Speaker 1: be helpful for Joe Burrow of Flacco is still around. 384 00:20:17,960 --> 00:20:20,240 Speaker 1: But I think even more than that, he's just such 385 00:20:20,240 --> 00:20:23,960 Speaker 1: a normal guy. Joe has this crazy life that none 386 00:20:24,000 --> 00:20:26,760 Speaker 1: of us Joe Burrow, that is crazy life that none 387 00:20:26,800 --> 00:20:30,280 Speaker 1: of us can identify with. You know, every move that 388 00:20:30,320 --> 00:20:33,439 Speaker 1: he makes is scrutinized and seen by millions of people. 389 00:20:33,760 --> 00:20:36,160 Speaker 1: But maybe just being around a guy who's a father 390 00:20:36,240 --> 00:20:40,000 Speaker 1: of five nothing phases him. That part of it I 391 00:20:40,000 --> 00:20:41,359 Speaker 1: think would be good for Joe Burrow. 392 00:20:41,520 --> 00:20:44,080 Speaker 5: I think Joe Flacco is normal. I mean, he's a 393 00:20:44,119 --> 00:20:47,320 Speaker 5: normal dude that just happens to be able to play 394 00:20:47,680 --> 00:20:51,040 Speaker 5: football at the highest level it can be played, you know, 395 00:20:51,160 --> 00:20:55,119 Speaker 5: I mean he is. I mean, I don't know in 396 00:20:55,119 --> 00:20:58,440 Speaker 5: Bengals history if there's been another game where a quarterbacks 397 00:20:58,480 --> 00:21:00,000 Speaker 5: is frowing four with three hundred yards and a half. 398 00:21:00,200 --> 00:21:04,360 Speaker 5: I mean, that's like stratospheric stuff. That's Hall of Fame stuff. 399 00:21:04,720 --> 00:21:08,159 Speaker 5: I mean that football should go you right up to 400 00:21:08,600 --> 00:21:12,760 Speaker 5: right up to the Hall of Fame, you know. I 401 00:21:12,800 --> 00:21:15,320 Speaker 5: know Joe probably wouldn't want it to because he didn't 402 00:21:15,320 --> 00:21:18,720 Speaker 5: win the football game. And that's the reason you play, 403 00:21:19,359 --> 00:21:22,280 Speaker 5: as has been said many times, you play to win 404 00:21:22,720 --> 00:21:26,640 Speaker 5: the game. Period. That's end of sentence. That's what it's 405 00:21:26,680 --> 00:21:29,119 Speaker 5: all about. And Joe Flako is going to win a 406 00:21:29,119 --> 00:21:31,720 Speaker 5: lot more games for the Cincinnati Bengals this year. I 407 00:21:31,720 --> 00:21:33,119 Speaker 5: think it's only just begun. 408 00:21:33,600 --> 00:21:36,320 Speaker 1: All right, enough of the positive should we get to 409 00:21:35,720 --> 00:21:38,199 Speaker 1: the other side of the coin. Let's talk about the 410 00:21:38,240 --> 00:21:42,399 Speaker 1: defensive issues, and there are many up First, stopping the run, 411 00:21:43,640 --> 00:21:47,760 Speaker 1: the Bears top two running backs were out. Kyle m Nungai, 412 00:21:48,080 --> 00:21:51,240 Speaker 1: seventh round draft pick out of Rutgers, goes up and 413 00:21:51,280 --> 00:21:53,399 Speaker 1: down the field for most of the game. The Bengals 414 00:21:53,440 --> 00:21:56,560 Speaker 1: wind up allowing more than two hundred and fifty rushing yards. Again, 415 00:21:57,400 --> 00:21:59,200 Speaker 1: the problems begin up front. 416 00:21:59,200 --> 00:22:02,840 Speaker 5: Right absolutely. I mean when you give up two hundred 417 00:22:02,880 --> 00:22:08,880 Speaker 5: and fifty rushing yards, what what I mean more than 418 00:22:08,880 --> 00:22:11,840 Speaker 5: once in the same season. I don't think that's happened 419 00:22:12,119 --> 00:22:14,840 Speaker 5: in Bengal history either. So, I mean there's a lot 420 00:22:14,840 --> 00:22:17,800 Speaker 5: of things going on here, positively and negatively, and it's 421 00:22:17,800 --> 00:22:22,480 Speaker 5: a three and six football team trying to figure things out. Man, 422 00:22:23,280 --> 00:22:26,120 Speaker 5: there are It starts with the with the defensive line. 423 00:22:26,160 --> 00:22:28,680 Speaker 5: I agree with you. You know, they're they're getting beaten, 424 00:22:28,800 --> 00:22:31,679 Speaker 5: they're getting handled at the line of scrimmage. Too many times, 425 00:22:31,720 --> 00:22:36,359 Speaker 5: they get consumed, they're you know, covered up by blockers 426 00:22:36,400 --> 00:22:38,280 Speaker 5: and don't get off, don't get off the block, and 427 00:22:38,280 --> 00:22:42,560 Speaker 5: don't make plays, and there's too many yards after contact 428 00:22:44,400 --> 00:22:47,560 Speaker 5: that you know that that they allow, and it just 429 00:22:48,119 --> 00:22:50,240 Speaker 5: it's starting to get old. I bet Al Golden is 430 00:22:50,280 --> 00:22:53,200 Speaker 5: tearing his hair out by the roots. I bet he's 431 00:22:53,240 --> 00:22:55,480 Speaker 5: not pleasant to live with. I'm sure his wife could 432 00:22:55,520 --> 00:22:59,840 Speaker 5: attest to that. These kind of these kind of stretches 433 00:23:00,040 --> 00:23:02,679 Speaker 5: where your side of the football is not holding up 434 00:23:02,680 --> 00:23:05,199 Speaker 5: its center of the bargain, it's costume the football team wins. 435 00:23:05,960 --> 00:23:09,119 Speaker 5: Is very, very difficult to deal with because you know, 436 00:23:09,160 --> 00:23:10,479 Speaker 5: you have a lot of pride in what you do 437 00:23:10,520 --> 00:23:13,760 Speaker 5: as well, and you've risen to a very high level 438 00:23:13,760 --> 00:23:16,560 Speaker 5: of the highest level of football, and you know you're 439 00:23:16,600 --> 00:23:17,840 Speaker 5: embarrassed by what they're doing. 440 00:23:18,920 --> 00:23:21,360 Speaker 1: Al Golden's a good coach in my opinion. Lou Anarromo 441 00:23:21,480 --> 00:23:23,719 Speaker 1: is obviously a good coach too. The Bengals tried to 442 00:23:23,760 --> 00:23:26,520 Speaker 1: switch things up and see if maybe l could develop 443 00:23:26,600 --> 00:23:29,399 Speaker 1: the younger guys a little bit better than Lou had done. 444 00:23:29,520 --> 00:23:31,960 Speaker 1: The bottom line is this is a personnel issue. The 445 00:23:32,000 --> 00:23:36,280 Speaker 1: Bengals are going to need to continue to add defensive 446 00:23:36,320 --> 00:23:39,160 Speaker 1: talent in a big way in the next year. 447 00:23:39,560 --> 00:23:43,159 Speaker 5: There's no doubt. I mean, Duke Tobin, I know, we 448 00:23:43,600 --> 00:23:46,960 Speaker 5: know him very well. We understand and appreciate the fact 449 00:23:46,960 --> 00:23:49,760 Speaker 5: that he is a guy, is a football lifer, and 450 00:23:49,800 --> 00:23:52,359 Speaker 5: he understands the game of football. Social media is not 451 00:23:52,400 --> 00:23:55,360 Speaker 5: being kind to Duke Tobin right now. It's a very 452 00:23:55,480 --> 00:24:00,119 Speaker 5: difficult time for him. You know, he's he's been on 453 00:24:00,160 --> 00:24:03,800 Speaker 5: the game forever, played the game and then went to 454 00:24:03,840 --> 00:24:06,760 Speaker 5: work as a scout with his dad and Bill Tobin 455 00:24:06,880 --> 00:24:10,440 Speaker 5: legendary one of the best personnel guys to ever work 456 00:24:10,480 --> 00:24:13,200 Speaker 5: in the National Football They put together super Bowl winning 457 00:24:13,200 --> 00:24:17,160 Speaker 5: football teams. Duke Tobin was the guy who the architect 458 00:24:17,160 --> 00:24:20,119 Speaker 5: of the team went to the Super Bowl for the 459 00:24:20,119 --> 00:24:22,480 Speaker 5: Cincinnati Bengals as well. Did they win the Super Bowl? No, 460 00:24:23,040 --> 00:24:26,560 Speaker 5: That's what I would love to see. Somehow it can happen. 461 00:24:26,600 --> 00:24:30,440 Speaker 5: I'd love to see the Cincinnati Bengals win the division 462 00:24:31,240 --> 00:24:34,800 Speaker 5: to go to the win the playoff game, go to 463 00:24:34,840 --> 00:24:37,640 Speaker 5: the ANFC Championship, win that and go to the Super Bowl. 464 00:24:37,640 --> 00:24:39,720 Speaker 5: I mean, I'd like to see it before I'm done, 465 00:24:39,840 --> 00:24:42,400 Speaker 5: and they better do it sooner out and later, because 466 00:24:42,400 --> 00:24:43,480 Speaker 5: I ain't gonna be around forever. 467 00:24:45,400 --> 00:24:48,800 Speaker 1: The trade deadline is upon us. The Bengals historically have 468 00:24:48,960 --> 00:24:52,119 Speaker 1: not liked to trade away their best players, but in 469 00:24:52,240 --> 00:24:56,320 Speaker 1: light of the circumstances, their record, Joe Burrow's injury, the 470 00:24:56,480 --> 00:24:59,960 Speaker 1: need to upgrade their defensive personnel, do you think they're 471 00:25:00,520 --> 00:25:04,359 Speaker 1: more open to trading somebody like Trey Hendrickson or Logan 472 00:25:04,440 --> 00:25:06,840 Speaker 1: Wilson than they typically would have been in the past. 473 00:25:07,000 --> 00:25:08,840 Speaker 5: You know, you got to think, so, you got to 474 00:25:08,880 --> 00:25:12,720 Speaker 5: think that they would be in that mindset, particularly the 475 00:25:12,720 --> 00:25:18,000 Speaker 5: difficulty they're having getting a contract done, you know, and normally, 476 00:25:18,720 --> 00:25:20,720 Speaker 5: and that's the case, when Mike Brown has come to 477 00:25:20,760 --> 00:25:23,560 Speaker 5: a stalemate or you know, a roadblock or a difficult 478 00:25:23,600 --> 00:25:27,520 Speaker 5: situation in contract negotiations, that's when you start to think 479 00:25:27,520 --> 00:25:31,200 Speaker 5: about trading people. So, I mean, I'd hate to see 480 00:25:31,240 --> 00:25:36,040 Speaker 5: him trade Tray because I mean, they're having trouble pressure 481 00:25:36,080 --> 00:25:39,280 Speaker 5: in the quarterback. They just can't get any anything done, 482 00:25:39,400 --> 00:25:41,280 Speaker 5: and he is their best pass rusher by far. He's 483 00:25:41,280 --> 00:25:43,840 Speaker 5: probably one of the three best pass rushers the NFL 484 00:25:43,920 --> 00:25:47,560 Speaker 5: has to offer. So I would hate to see Trey 485 00:25:47,600 --> 00:25:51,720 Speaker 5: Henderson go elsewhere and be what that football team needed 486 00:25:51,760 --> 00:25:55,080 Speaker 5: to get over the top and you know, start winning 487 00:25:55,160 --> 00:25:59,320 Speaker 5: their division, winning the conference championship and going to the 488 00:25:59,320 --> 00:25:59,879 Speaker 5: super Bowl. 489 00:26:00,080 --> 00:26:03,159 Speaker 1: Else Yeah, nobody wants to see Tray go. On the 490 00:26:03,200 --> 00:26:06,440 Speaker 1: other hand, at this point, it's a if the price 491 00:26:06,520 --> 00:26:09,480 Speaker 1: is right type of situation really with all of those 492 00:26:09,520 --> 00:26:12,800 Speaker 1: guys that are being rumored as potential trade candidates. 493 00:26:12,920 --> 00:26:15,320 Speaker 5: Yeah, you're right, and if you get some kind of 494 00:26:15,359 --> 00:26:18,040 Speaker 5: an offer you can't refuse for anybody. I remember Paul 495 00:26:18,040 --> 00:26:20,640 Speaker 5: Brown telling us all, you know, standing up in front 496 00:26:20,680 --> 00:26:24,840 Speaker 5: of the entire football team, If you think you're going 497 00:26:24,920 --> 00:26:27,640 Speaker 5: to be here forever, if you think you're above being 498 00:26:27,720 --> 00:26:31,600 Speaker 5: let go or traded or whatever, think again, young man, 499 00:26:31,760 --> 00:26:33,840 Speaker 5: that's not the case. If we get an offer for 500 00:26:33,880 --> 00:26:36,760 Speaker 5: you that we can't refuse, we won't refuse it. You'll 501 00:26:36,760 --> 00:26:38,400 Speaker 5: be gone in a heartbeat. 502 00:26:38,720 --> 00:26:43,520 Speaker 1: Well, we almost had a chance to call arguably the 503 00:26:43,600 --> 00:26:46,879 Speaker 1: wackiest come from behind victory in Bengals history. We just 504 00:26:46,920 --> 00:26:48,960 Speaker 1: needed to eliminate the last fifty four seconds. 505 00:26:49,080 --> 00:26:53,000 Speaker 5: Yeah, that's right, one minute of our lives, one minute 506 00:26:53,000 --> 00:26:55,760 Speaker 5: of the Bengals football lives in this twenty twenty five season. 507 00:26:56,040 --> 00:26:58,800 Speaker 5: It has been a crazy, wacky year for sure, but 508 00:26:59,240 --> 00:27:02,360 Speaker 5: as we said Dan, far from over. There's a lot 509 00:27:02,359 --> 00:27:05,920 Speaker 5: of season left. Eight football games. It a lot can 510 00:27:06,000 --> 00:27:07,800 Speaker 5: happen in those eight games. 511 00:27:08,840 --> 00:27:11,320 Speaker 1: The Bengals Booth Podcast is brought to you by Pai Core, 512 00:27:11,440 --> 00:27:14,840 Speaker 1: Proud to be the Bengals official HR software provider, by 513 00:27:14,920 --> 00:27:18,399 Speaker 1: Alta Fiber, future proof Fiber Internet designed to elevate your home, 514 00:27:18,680 --> 00:27:22,240 Speaker 1: business and community to a new level, and by Kettering Health, 515 00:27:22,600 --> 00:27:25,320 Speaker 1: the best care for the best fans. Kettering Health is 516 00:27:25,359 --> 00:27:30,119 Speaker 1: the official healthcare provider of the Bengals. Finally, my latest 517 00:27:30,119 --> 00:27:33,360 Speaker 1: fun facts conversation this week was with tight end Noah Fan, 518 00:27:33,480 --> 00:27:36,119 Speaker 1: but we're going to save that for a future podcast 519 00:27:36,440 --> 00:27:39,919 Speaker 1: because I want to conclude this episode by replaying the 520 00:27:39,960 --> 00:27:42,960 Speaker 1: conversation I had a few years ago with Bob Trumpy, 521 00:27:43,160 --> 00:27:46,600 Speaker 1: who passed away on Sunday at the age of eighty. 522 00:27:47,960 --> 00:27:49,640 Speaker 1: Time for some fun facts with one of the great 523 00:27:49,640 --> 00:27:52,480 Speaker 1: players in Bengals history, a four time Pro Bowl tight 524 00:27:52,600 --> 00:27:54,760 Speaker 1: end who went on to have a great career in broadcasting, 525 00:27:55,240 --> 00:27:59,760 Speaker 1: the legendary Bob Trumpy, greatest twelfth round draft pick in 526 00:27:59,760 --> 00:28:03,720 Speaker 1: an NFL history. I would say, how did you learn 527 00:28:03,920 --> 00:28:06,199 Speaker 1: that you were selected by the Bengals? I remember was 528 00:28:06,240 --> 00:28:07,119 Speaker 1: something bizarre. 529 00:28:07,720 --> 00:28:11,200 Speaker 6: I was working as a bill collector for a beneficial finance. 530 00:28:12,560 --> 00:28:16,040 Speaker 6: The address is six oh seven Hill Street. Don't tell 531 00:28:16,080 --> 00:28:19,520 Speaker 6: me how I remember that. It was in downtown Los 532 00:28:19,560 --> 00:28:25,600 Speaker 6: Angeles and my wife called me and said, you just 533 00:28:25,640 --> 00:28:28,160 Speaker 6: got drafted. And I said that's impossible. I just got 534 00:28:28,160 --> 00:28:31,040 Speaker 6: out of the Navy. She said, no, no, no, by 535 00:28:31,160 --> 00:28:37,120 Speaker 6: some team in Cincinnati. Is that Ohio? And I said yeah. 536 00:28:37,359 --> 00:28:42,640 Speaker 6: She said it's the Cincinnati Beagles And I said, are 537 00:28:42,680 --> 00:28:47,000 Speaker 6: you kidding? She said no, I'm not kidding. And I said, 538 00:28:47,040 --> 00:28:49,320 Speaker 6: how do you know that? He said, there's a telegram 539 00:28:49,360 --> 00:28:53,400 Speaker 6: here from Paul Brown the congratulations you've been drafted in 540 00:28:53,440 --> 00:28:57,480 Speaker 6: the twelfth round by the Cincinnati Bengals. And I said, 541 00:28:58,360 --> 00:29:00,400 Speaker 6: you're sure you're not kidding me. This is no joke. 542 00:29:01,520 --> 00:29:04,000 Speaker 6: She said, yes, yes, aren't you excited? And I said 543 00:29:04,080 --> 00:29:07,480 Speaker 6: absolutely I am. And I walked into the boss of 544 00:29:07,720 --> 00:29:10,680 Speaker 6: beneficial finance at six oh seven Hill Street in downtown 545 00:29:10,720 --> 00:29:15,680 Speaker 6: Los Angeles and said I quit. I might mention I 546 00:29:15,760 --> 00:29:19,360 Speaker 6: had no clue how they knew about me or what 547 00:29:19,400 --> 00:29:23,360 Speaker 6: the connection was between the Cincinnati Bengals and one kid 548 00:29:23,480 --> 00:29:25,640 Speaker 6: named Trumpy. And when I made the team, my wife 549 00:29:25,720 --> 00:29:28,960 Speaker 6: and I moved in an apartment on Galworth Road. And 550 00:29:29,480 --> 00:29:32,920 Speaker 6: another person there was Al Locasel with his wife and 551 00:29:32,960 --> 00:29:37,640 Speaker 6: he was a director of player personnel. And we're sitting 552 00:29:37,680 --> 00:29:39,640 Speaker 6: down on the front stoop one night having a beer 553 00:29:39,800 --> 00:29:44,200 Speaker 6: and I said, Al, who's responsible for me being drafted? 554 00:29:44,880 --> 00:29:47,720 Speaker 6: He said me? And I said, what did you know 555 00:29:47,840 --> 00:29:50,000 Speaker 6: about me? Said? I saw you twice, once on the 556 00:29:50,040 --> 00:29:53,959 Speaker 6: beach in Daytona and once planned for the University of 557 00:29:54,040 --> 00:29:57,560 Speaker 6: Utah against Houston. And I just wrote your name down 558 00:29:57,560 --> 00:30:01,280 Speaker 6: and kept track, and the draft twelve around. Paul Brown says, 559 00:30:01,360 --> 00:30:06,760 Speaker 6: offense receiver, somebody with some speed. And he said, I'm 560 00:30:06,760 --> 00:30:10,760 Speaker 6: flipping through a spiral notebook and I get to the 561 00:30:10,800 --> 00:30:13,680 Speaker 6: t's and there's your name. Some total of the research 562 00:30:13,760 --> 00:30:15,360 Speaker 6: they did on me. That was it. 563 00:30:15,880 --> 00:30:17,720 Speaker 1: When he said on the beach in Daytona, what was 564 00:30:17,720 --> 00:30:18,360 Speaker 1: he referring to? 565 00:30:18,840 --> 00:30:21,800 Speaker 6: He was a scout for the San Diego Chargers. The 566 00:30:21,840 --> 00:30:25,120 Speaker 6: guy that owned the motel were four fraternity brothers and 567 00:30:25,160 --> 00:30:28,960 Speaker 6: I were staying for spring break was owned by a 568 00:30:29,080 --> 00:30:33,280 Speaker 6: guy named bud Asher. Bud Asher ran owned and coached 569 00:30:33,320 --> 00:30:36,960 Speaker 6: a minor league football team in Daytona Beach. We didn't 570 00:30:37,000 --> 00:30:42,280 Speaker 6: know that, just pure coincidence that we stopped there. A 571 00:30:42,360 --> 00:30:45,240 Speaker 6: guy comes up to me, some kid I had in 572 00:30:45,280 --> 00:30:48,120 Speaker 6: Illinois hooded sweatshirt on. He said, I understand you're a 573 00:30:48,200 --> 00:30:50,640 Speaker 6: receiver at the University of Illinois. Said yeah. This was 574 00:30:50,680 --> 00:30:53,680 Speaker 6: between my freshman and sophomore year. He said, I'm trying 575 00:30:53,680 --> 00:30:57,920 Speaker 6: to make this team. Would you mind catching some passes? 576 00:30:57,960 --> 00:31:01,320 Speaker 6: Format Oh, I don't mind at all, big beach, beautiful shirt. 577 00:31:02,280 --> 00:31:05,880 Speaker 6: Get done. Go back up by the pool. And one 578 00:31:05,920 --> 00:31:08,680 Speaker 6: of my paternity brothers said, some guy was asking about you, 579 00:31:09,360 --> 00:31:12,760 Speaker 6: and I said, what do you mean asking about me? Well, 580 00:31:13,760 --> 00:31:16,320 Speaker 6: the quarterback was trying out, not me, he said, no, 581 00:31:16,440 --> 00:31:18,840 Speaker 6: he was asking who you were. And he had a 582 00:31:18,840 --> 00:31:22,320 Speaker 6: big ring on. It was al locusl. 583 00:31:22,840 --> 00:31:25,040 Speaker 1: We're doing fun facts with Bob Trumpy. You used the 584 00:31:25,040 --> 00:31:29,320 Speaker 1: expression big receiver, tall and fast but not heavy. What 585 00:31:29,480 --> 00:31:31,800 Speaker 1: did you weigh when you first showed up at camp. 586 00:31:31,880 --> 00:31:35,160 Speaker 6: To eight legitimately, But I weighed in with a ten 587 00:31:35,200 --> 00:31:40,720 Speaker 6: pound weight in a towel on a shoe string underneath, 588 00:31:40,760 --> 00:31:43,480 Speaker 6: So I thought the first meeting. We had a meeting first, 589 00:31:43,520 --> 00:31:48,360 Speaker 6: as was always the case with Paul, and everybody was listening. 590 00:31:48,400 --> 00:31:52,360 Speaker 6: I was counting. I'm not joking. I was counting the 591 00:31:52,440 --> 00:31:55,520 Speaker 6: number of tight ends and the number of wide receivers. 592 00:31:56,000 --> 00:31:59,920 Speaker 6: And he went through the numbers as to what numbers 593 00:32:00,000 --> 00:32:02,360 Speaker 6: they were going to keep at what positions and who 594 00:32:03,320 --> 00:32:08,000 Speaker 6: might that be? And I thought, she was you know, 595 00:32:08,000 --> 00:32:11,520 Speaker 6: if I can be in both those lines, I got 596 00:32:11,600 --> 00:32:14,640 Speaker 6: a better chance to make the ball club. So the 597 00:32:14,640 --> 00:32:20,120 Speaker 6: first night I lost a roommate, Wally Scott. He was 598 00:32:20,160 --> 00:32:23,800 Speaker 6: cut before the first practice. But I gained an idea 599 00:32:24,080 --> 00:32:26,880 Speaker 6: as to how I could be in both lines, and 600 00:32:26,960 --> 00:32:31,160 Speaker 6: I the first year I weighed with that ten pound weight. 601 00:32:31,720 --> 00:32:34,920 Speaker 6: Now make the team. Last game of the season, we 602 00:32:35,000 --> 00:32:39,400 Speaker 6: played the New York Jets. They played what we referred 603 00:32:39,440 --> 00:32:43,120 Speaker 6: to as an over defense. The defensive end was on me. 604 00:32:44,920 --> 00:32:48,000 Speaker 6: If we were left, it was Erlin Biggs. If we 605 00:32:48,000 --> 00:32:53,360 Speaker 6: were to the right, it was Jerry Philban. Biggs was 606 00:32:53,360 --> 00:32:57,880 Speaker 6: two eighty Philman was two sixty five. And I weighed 607 00:32:57,880 --> 00:33:01,520 Speaker 6: in that week at one ninety six to myself. So 608 00:33:01,680 --> 00:33:04,640 Speaker 6: game ends, we get beat and Bill Walsh walks up 609 00:33:04,680 --> 00:33:06,479 Speaker 6: to me on the plane after the game. He said, man, 610 00:33:06,520 --> 00:33:09,040 Speaker 6: you had a tough day. I said, I can't block 611 00:33:09,080 --> 00:33:11,560 Speaker 6: those guys. And he said, well, is a technique, And 612 00:33:11,560 --> 00:33:13,880 Speaker 6: I said, no, I weigh one hundred and ninety six pounds. 613 00:33:14,200 --> 00:33:17,520 Speaker 6: And he just goes crazy, What why didn't you tell me? 614 00:33:18,040 --> 00:33:20,880 Speaker 6: You go no, no, no, no, no no. And I said, 615 00:33:20,920 --> 00:33:23,240 Speaker 6: you're not listed at one ninety six, You're listed at 616 00:33:23,240 --> 00:33:25,920 Speaker 6: to eighteen. I said, well, I weighed in with a 617 00:33:25,960 --> 00:33:28,840 Speaker 6: ten pound weight. So for the next two years I 618 00:33:28,880 --> 00:33:33,080 Speaker 6: had no weight naked, but I made the team. 619 00:33:33,240 --> 00:33:36,400 Speaker 1: We're doing fun Facts with Bob Trumpy. Describe your relationship 620 00:33:36,440 --> 00:33:37,080 Speaker 1: with Paul Brown. 621 00:33:39,120 --> 00:33:42,240 Speaker 6: I think he treated us all exactly the same. 622 00:33:43,480 --> 00:33:43,800 Speaker 1: Uh. 623 00:33:43,880 --> 00:33:48,440 Speaker 6: He was the boss. I don't ever remember him give 624 00:33:48,520 --> 00:33:51,440 Speaker 6: us a giving us a one one for the gip 625 00:33:51,560 --> 00:33:54,640 Speaker 6: or speech. I don't ever remember him. I don't ring 626 00:33:54,760 --> 00:33:55,360 Speaker 6: a cuss word. 627 00:33:56,600 --> 00:33:56,719 Speaker 10: Uh. 628 00:33:57,720 --> 00:34:03,320 Speaker 6: He treated me like everybody else. I was thankful for that. 629 00:34:03,320 --> 00:34:07,960 Speaker 6: That's all I wanted. Uh and uh. But he did 630 00:34:08,000 --> 00:34:12,760 Speaker 6: invite me wants to a golf tournament up in Dayton, 631 00:34:13,560 --> 00:34:16,040 Speaker 6: put on by a friend of his. And when he 632 00:34:16,120 --> 00:34:20,400 Speaker 6: called me, uh, he called my house. My wife answers, 633 00:34:20,440 --> 00:34:23,840 Speaker 6: and I'm at work at Pogues and Kenwood off season 634 00:34:23,920 --> 00:34:28,919 Speaker 6: job and my wife calls me and says Paul Brown 635 00:34:29,040 --> 00:34:32,440 Speaker 6: just called me. He wants to talk to you. My 636 00:34:32,520 --> 00:34:39,400 Speaker 6: first thought was Buffalo. I'm going to Buffalo, and I 637 00:34:39,480 --> 00:34:45,200 Speaker 6: quickly h called and Mary, who was going to turn 638 00:34:45,239 --> 00:34:48,319 Speaker 6: out to be his future wife, answered the phone. She said, 639 00:34:48,320 --> 00:34:50,799 Speaker 6: hold on just a minute. Coach does want to talk 640 00:34:50,840 --> 00:34:54,880 Speaker 6: to you. And he gets on the phone and he says, 641 00:34:54,920 --> 00:34:58,120 Speaker 6: my friend up in Dayton, Si Lauter has a golf 642 00:34:58,160 --> 00:35:01,960 Speaker 6: tournament I'd like to invite you, called the Bogie Busters. 643 00:35:02,040 --> 00:35:08,680 Speaker 6: And what bogie Busters? You mean? No, Buffalo, I'm not 644 00:35:08,680 --> 00:35:12,680 Speaker 6: going to Buffalo and he said, no, just play all okay? Fine. 645 00:35:12,920 --> 00:35:17,720 Speaker 6: So as a player, I enjoy the relationship. 646 00:35:18,680 --> 00:35:20,640 Speaker 1: Trump. As I mentioned at the beginning of the interview, 647 00:35:20,680 --> 00:35:22,440 Speaker 1: after your career, you went on to have a tremendous 648 00:35:22,480 --> 00:35:25,680 Speaker 1: career in broadcasting, got the opportunity to call Super Bowls 649 00:35:25,680 --> 00:35:28,560 Speaker 1: and so many other big events. What was more nerve 650 00:35:28,680 --> 00:35:31,120 Speaker 1: racking for you playing in a big game or being 651 00:35:31,160 --> 00:35:33,080 Speaker 1: behind the mic at a Super Bowl. 652 00:35:34,520 --> 00:35:38,320 Speaker 6: I never got the adrenaline rush broadcasting that I got playing, 653 00:35:39,400 --> 00:35:43,920 Speaker 6: and I've never found anything that matches that adrenaline rush. 654 00:35:43,960 --> 00:35:46,160 Speaker 6: I mean, I don't care if you're fifteen and one 655 00:35:46,680 --> 00:35:51,320 Speaker 6: or for US thirteen and one or one and thirteen. 656 00:35:51,360 --> 00:35:53,839 Speaker 6: The adrenaline rush you get before a football game, it's 657 00:35:53,920 --> 00:36:00,680 Speaker 6: just it's unmatched. So I was probably more nervous before 658 00:36:00,680 --> 00:36:05,480 Speaker 6: football games. You don't get the sense when you're broadcasting 659 00:36:05,560 --> 00:36:08,279 Speaker 6: that you might be talking to tens or hundreds and 660 00:36:08,280 --> 00:36:11,319 Speaker 6: millions of people. You got the guy sitting next to you, 661 00:36:11,480 --> 00:36:15,040 Speaker 6: and I had some good ones to it. You're in 662 00:36:15,120 --> 00:36:18,839 Speaker 6: this together. You don't have to be perfect neither. There's 663 00:36:18,880 --> 00:36:23,680 Speaker 6: that guy. We help each other. But in football, I 664 00:36:23,719 --> 00:36:25,239 Speaker 6: got a job, and if I don't do it, the 665 00:36:25,280 --> 00:36:28,799 Speaker 6: play doesn't work. It's not quite that way in broadcasting. 666 00:36:29,719 --> 00:36:33,799 Speaker 6: It was much easier to deal with the nervousness in broadcasting. 667 00:36:34,880 --> 00:36:36,560 Speaker 1: That's going to do it for this episode of the 668 00:36:36,560 --> 00:36:39,240 Speaker 1: Bengals Booth podcast, brought to you by Pai Core, Proud 669 00:36:39,280 --> 00:36:43,120 Speaker 1: to be the Bengals official HR software provider, by Alta 670 00:36:43,200 --> 00:36:46,320 Speaker 1: Fiber future proof fiber Internet designed to elevate your home, 671 00:36:46,560 --> 00:36:50,000 Speaker 1: business and community to a new level, and by Kettering 672 00:36:50,000 --> 00:36:53,120 Speaker 1: Health the best care for the best fans. Kettering Health 673 00:36:53,200 --> 00:36:56,560 Speaker 1: is the official healthcare provider of the Bengals. 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