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Speaker 2: I'm just about that Action Bols.

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Speaker 3: Welcome into The Action Network Podcast, presented by bet MGM,

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Speaker 3: the King of Sportsbooks. It is NFL Draft week. We

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Speaker 3: are here for another NFL Draft betting update. Brendan glas

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Speaker 3: Sheen and the host chair. We've got Travis Reed, Jacob Blaine,

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Speaker 3: Evan Abrams at this point. If you've been tuning in,

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Speaker 3: you're familiar with the crew. Travis and Jacob both contributors

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Speaker 3: over at Action Evan Abrams, as well as our director

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Speaker 3: of research and Media. Thursday night, it all goes down

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Speaker 3: in Detroit day one. We will dive into the particulars

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Speaker 3: in terms of where our schedule is this week. It

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Speaker 3: is not the first time we will join you. We'll

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Speaker 3: be back at some point Thursday, also overnight Thursday into

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Speaker 3: Friday morning. More to come at the end of the episode.

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Speaker 3: In terms of how you can hear us and get

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Speaker 3: ready to fire some bets on the NFL Draft, we

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Speaker 3: have a lot to get into because GMS, we're talking

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Speaker 3: as we suspected with these voluntary workouts last week, and

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Speaker 3: when guys are at the podium as we tease last week,

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Speaker 3: you have to take some of it with a grain

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Speaker 3: of salt and choose what you want to believe. So

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Speaker 3: we'll lead as we normally do, any bets at current

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Speaker 3: prices that you like at this moment right now, Travis Reed,

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Speaker 3: what do you got?

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Speaker 1: Yeah, we had some more markets come out for player

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Speaker 1: over unders. So they always start with maybe the top

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Speaker 1: five picks, top ten, but now we're getting into you know,

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Speaker 1: later and later into the first round, they're putting over

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Speaker 1: unders on some of those, and really a lot of

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Speaker 1: these I look at as coin flips. But if you

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Speaker 1: can get good plus money on these coin flips, I'm

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Speaker 1: going to take that side. So some examples JC Latham,

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Speaker 1: he's been getting some steam kind of this week, but

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Speaker 1: I'm going to go against that. Take over fourteen and

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Speaker 1: a half at plus one point thirty a lot too.

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Speaker 1: Is another guy. He's kind of got a wide range

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Speaker 1: of outcomes. He does have some medical questions, but I

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Speaker 1: like over seventeen and a half at plus one point

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Speaker 1: and looking at a lot of these, I think if

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Speaker 1: you're looking just that, if you have no idea what's

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Speaker 1: going to happen, and you just want to sprinkle in

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Speaker 1: some bets on some of these plus money over unders.

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Speaker 1: I think that's one of the best way to kind

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Speaker 1: of build out your card because it's still much of

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Speaker 1: a crapshoot right now. We still don't know a lot

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Speaker 1: of what's going to happen. So to be able to

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Speaker 1: get plus money on what, like I said, I considered

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Speaker 1: to be coin flips, is a good way to take advantage.

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Speaker 3: Hey, very good, Jacob Woyne. Anything at this moment on Monday,

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Speaker 3: April twenty second that you are interested in right now

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Speaker 3: at a current price.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, when I said over the weekend was ad Ni

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Speaker 4: Mitchell over twenty seven and a half on the trap position,

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Speaker 4: So not a plus money one. Like Travis was saying,

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Speaker 4: you do have some juice to the over on that,

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Speaker 4: But I'm just fading the scene that suggesting ad Ni

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Speaker 4: Mitchell is close to this top crop of wide receivers

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Speaker 4: in this class. There's a list of Round one receivers

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Speaker 4: to average within eighty five receiving yards in their best

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Speaker 4: game all right, sorry, in their best season, and it's

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Speaker 4: a who's who first round bus you got John Ross,

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Speaker 4: Sean Perriman, Joen Rager, Quintin Johnson. Like the list goes on,

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Speaker 4: and basically ad Ni Mitchell's production profile doesn't suggest that

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Speaker 4: he should be close to the top twenty picks, and

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Speaker 4: there's questions about his character now that are coming out

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Speaker 4: kind of a hit piece that I didn't love, and

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Speaker 4: I don't want to read too much into it, but

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Speaker 4: talking about his diabetes concerns, I don't want to go

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Speaker 4: some buzz around Brian Thomas falling a bit here based

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Speaker 4: on some undisclosed injury stuff that's coming out. So curious

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Speaker 4: to see how that affects ad Ni Mitchell's draft position,

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Speaker 4: because if Thomas falls further than expected, then it would

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Speaker 4: push Mitchell down the board. But overall, it's hard for

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Speaker 4: me to see where he lands before Buffalo at twenty eight,

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Speaker 4: and if we're betting the over twenty seven and a half,

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Speaker 3: Do you have a price point you'd play it too

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Speaker 4: Juice, I look for minus one fifty probably something on that.

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Speaker 4: I played it at minus one thirty five, but yeah

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Speaker 4: how about yourself.

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Speaker 5: Merry Christmas, everybody, Happy Draft Week. I'm just gonna go

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Speaker 5: I'm gonna I'm gonna go with the over unders since

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Speaker 5: I'll stick with that theme. I hit on a bunch,

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Speaker 5: with Mitchell. I took over twenty seven and a half.

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Speaker 5: I agree with Latham. I have over fourteen and a half,

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Speaker 5: kool Aid under twenty nine and a half, Chop under

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Speaker 5: twenty seven and a half. And I think a great

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Speaker 5: conversation right now is that Kingsley versus Morgan potentially for

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Speaker 1: A half as well.

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Speaker 5: And the one I'm really looking out for is Franklin.

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Speaker 5: I believe I saw forty three and a half. I think,

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Speaker 5: I mean he started. I believe in like the thirties

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Speaker 5: Maybe a little bit too high for me. I think

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Speaker 5: there's a chance he falls into one of those slots.

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Speaker 5: So in terms of just over unders, I have a

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Speaker 5: few of other things. Those are the ones that I've

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Speaker 5: attacked over the last forty eight hours. Let's call it

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Speaker 5: very good. So we did this.

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Speaker 3: We've been doing these every Monday, and a lot of

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Speaker 3: stuff has been coming out Tuesdays, including mock drafts, so

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Speaker 3: that's kind of annoying, but it gives us something to

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Speaker 3: send our teeth into for the next week. And this

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Speaker 3: is draft week, of course, and Peter Schrager had a

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Speaker 3: mock draft, and we were all going back and forth

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Speaker 3: in our slack channel reacting to Peter Schrager, who's pretty

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Speaker 3: tapped in. It was his first mock draft that he

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Speaker 3: put out there. I would like some knee jerk reactions, Jacob,

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Speaker 3: you're nodding. I'll go to you first on this. So

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Speaker 3: he's got jj mccarthying number four to the Giants, So

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Speaker 3: the Giants would be the team trading up to the Cardinals.

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Speaker 3: Cardinals would come back out of four, go to six,

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Speaker 3: and he's got them taken a receiver. Speaking of which receivers,

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Speaker 3: Schrager has eight receivers going in the first round. Nine

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Speaker 3: offensive Lineman, What is your leadoff thought when you read

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Speaker 3: Peter Schrager's mock draft from last week.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean you bring up the receivers. We're not

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Speaker 4: Right now, we're seeing Jalen Polk as seen as Peter

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Speaker 4: Schrager put that out, his first round odds plummeted down

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Speaker 4: not going in the first round. I'm comfortable putting my

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Speaker 4: stamp on that. Nothing wrong with a player. I think

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Speaker 4: he's a fine projection. But given the talent at this

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Speaker 4: wide receiver class, a big thing that I've been doing

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Speaker 4: in general. There's so many talented players at that position

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Speaker 4: on Day two, and we'll talk about some specific teams

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Speaker 3: Schrieger in his right up, he's got a blurb for

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Speaker 3: every pick that he lays out, and he did admit

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Speaker 3: with Jalen Polk to the Chiefs at thirty two, Polk

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Speaker 3: least he's admitting some bias there when he gives jad

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Speaker 3: Jalen Polk some love. And he also mentions how he

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Speaker 3: started his career at Texas Tech, Patrick Mahomes played for

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Speaker 3: the Red Raiders, etc. So how about you, Travis from

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Speaker 3: the Schraeger mock and what it's done to the market.

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Speaker 3: What's a jumping off point for you?

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Speaker 1: Did like the McCarthy did the Giants. I had mentioned

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Speaker 1: that on a couple of podcasts ago that I thought,

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Speaker 1: I don't think they're married to Daniel Jones at all.

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Speaker 1: I think a quarterback is definitely in play for them.

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Speaker 1: still to be seen. But my initial reaction I was like,

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Speaker 1: the over on McCarthy and so I actually, you know,

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Speaker 1: before that. You know, this guy's as plugged in as anybody,

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Speaker 1: and you just see tons of whiffs, and it just

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Speaker 1: was a good reminder of Okay, even these guys that

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Speaker 1: know way more than we'll ever forget, have no idea

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Speaker 1: what's going to happen on Thursday. Give me a little

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Speaker 1: bit more confidence. A lot of times when these insiders

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean a lot has changed in the JJ

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Speaker 3: McCarthy market, right like, yeah, number is shortened now to

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Speaker 3: go number two overall, Like that just happened overnight. You

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Speaker 3: it's some books eight to one to go number two overall.

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Speaker 3: just to tie it back to Schreger, he's got bo

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Speaker 3: Nix going to the Vikings at twenty three, so it

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Speaker 3: would be the Giants, and the Giants said they don't

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Speaker 3: to take a quarterback with their first pick. So how

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Speaker 3: do you how do you make sense of all of it?

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Speaker 3: With the McCarthy's stuff in the market movement, So.

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Speaker 5: There's a lot there. I guess I'll start with McCarthy.

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Speaker 5: So he was actually eighteen to one, twenty to one

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Speaker 5: to go to at some places. I actually bit at

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Speaker 5: seventeen eighteen to one myself. I could talk about that

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Speaker 5: more in a second, down to like eight to one,

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Speaker 5: seven to one. I think Traeger putting him at four

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Speaker 5: then kind of turned into could he go two? Because

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Speaker 5: I haven't really heard much about three. So I think

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Speaker 5: some of the conversation now is, you know Washington had

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Speaker 5: all the quarterbacks, there is Daniel's a guy. Then all

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Speaker 5: So the early a week ago in between that time,

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Speaker 5: and we've had Jaden Daniels a two. So I think

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Speaker 5: there is truth to the fact that the decision hadn't

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Speaker 5: potentially even now. So that that's my thought on the

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Speaker 2: I got it that at ten to one.

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Speaker 1: They want a quarterback. I'm not sure they've made up

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Speaker 3: Apparently something that apparently the Niners had done this. The

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Speaker 5: They tell them to all go to the grocery store.

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Speaker 3: Who returns the cart after? They don't just leave I'm

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Speaker 1: Definitely take them off your board if they don't return

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Speaker 3: And that brings up New England. Elliott Woolf was at

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Speaker 4: Okay, No, I think they're saying a three and taking

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Speaker 4: Looking at it now, Jase McCarthy, though, the team has

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Speaker 5: believing that either one of those two quarterbacks kind of

436
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Speaker 5: doesn't make their way into this group. So like, as

437
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Speaker 5: an example, Caleb JJ Drake Harrison ALT is one hundred

438
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Speaker 5: and twenty five to one, Caleb JJ Jaden Harrison ALT

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Speaker 5: is two hundred and fifty to one. So I think

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Speaker 5: there's probably just a few long shots that could be

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Speaker 5: taken at this point if you want to start betting

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Speaker 5: on a little bit of chaos in those first few picks.

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Speaker 1: Okay, there, I am.

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Speaker 3: I would have thoughts, and I'm Travis, I'm curious in

445
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Speaker 3: yours position here because last week it was JJ McCarthy,

446
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Speaker 3: or maybe the week before over five and a half

447
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Speaker 3: draft position. Now with this tragger mock what I mentioned

448
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Speaker 3: with the Chargers, GM said, those dots to me are

449
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Speaker 3: connecting to say, oh, well, McCarthy going top five might

450
00:22:09,960 --> 00:22:11,680
Speaker 3: be worth a look. Are you going to buy out

451
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Speaker 3: of that position? Is an exact of the route to

452
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Speaker 3: go if you want to try and not hedge but

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Speaker 3: create another position.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I'll probably just eat it if I lose. It's fine.

455
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Speaker 1: You know we're we're gonna lose.

456
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Speaker 3: I'm not trying to rub salt in the wound here

457
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Speaker 3: now where your mind is, That's what I'm interesting.

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Speaker 1: I mean this, Remember we had Levis at like two

459
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Speaker 1: and four at this time last year too, So just

460
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Speaker 1: because we're hearing all this smoke about JJ doesn't mean

461
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Speaker 1: it's true. I do think those long shot bets, though,

462
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Speaker 1: are fine because like Evans that could be the case,

463
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Speaker 1: and getting the price that you said, like one and

464
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Speaker 1: fifty to one something like that on things that look

465
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Speaker 1: very very viable, I think those are the type of

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Speaker 1: shots worth taking. I also think this is a time

467
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Speaker 1: where you can I looked at Joe Alt, He's minus

468
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Speaker 1: eight hundred to go in the top ten. I think

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Speaker 1: now that that's that's a fine ROI in four days time,

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Speaker 1: it feels weird putting, you know, one hundred dollars to

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Speaker 1: win twelve fifty or whatever it is. But he's gone

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Speaker 1: in the top ten and one hundred percent of mock drafts.

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Speaker 1: So I mean, if you think that's basically a lock,

474
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Speaker 1: you know, you can even start to go that way

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Speaker 1: with some of these. If you want to take Kalem

476
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Speaker 1: to go number one and you get you know, bonus

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Speaker 1: that's from your whatever place you're placing sports bets, and

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Speaker 1: you all right, it's one hundred percent lock. Yeah, go

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Speaker 1: ahead and bet into minus eight thousand.

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Speaker 3: It doesn't matter jacob reaction to the exacto.

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Speaker 4: I think it's a great angle to go if you

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Speaker 4: have a lean on what the commanders do at number two.

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Speaker 2: I get some extra value out of it. This think

484
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Speaker 2: it's interesting.

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Speaker 4: Dany Jeremiah dropped his final top one fifty prospects in

486
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Speaker 4: a class a couple hours ago, and he hasn't budged

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Speaker 4: on Drake May as a second quarterback. He has made

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Speaker 4: fifth overall, Daniel's sixth overall, and then Jase McCarthy down

489
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Speaker 4: in twentieth overall, so he hasn't moved up. McCarthy, I

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Speaker 4: don't think at all in this pre have process, and

491
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Speaker 4: of course these are his rankings and not necessarily what

492
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Speaker 4: he thinks teams are going to do, so you know,

493
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Speaker 4: take it with a grain of salt. But I do think,

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Speaker 4: like when I look at guys like Dane Jeremiah, Dan

495
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Speaker 4: rug where other industry minds who I respect this entire

496
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Speaker 4: time for the process, they've had Drake May as their

497
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Speaker 4: QB two and I'm still buying into Drake May at

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Speaker 4: that spot, looking at the exact as I think, if

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Speaker 4: you want to put May at two and then McCarthy

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Speaker 4: at three, the Patriots have been linked pretty heavily to

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Speaker 4: Jajon McCarthy and recently, so you get some diale out

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Speaker 4: of that.

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Speaker 2: I think it's sharp as well.

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Speaker 3: want to dive in quickly to the Broncos also were out.

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Speaker 3: Peyton had some quotes, their GM had some quotes about

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Speaker 3: not forcing it. This all ties back to the over

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Speaker 3: under quarterback market at four and a half and now

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Speaker 3: the numbers up overs at minus minus two fifty five

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Speaker 3: for over four and a half quarterbacks and you can

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Speaker 3: get plus two hundred on the under, and that of

519
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Speaker 3: course connects to Bonix Pennix. I saw a lot of

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Speaker 3: lot of rattler discussion about later rounds and that that

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Speaker 3: doesn't relate to the first round of course, but uh,

522
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Speaker 3: where where are we at on that market? Specifically Travis

523
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Speaker 3: with the over under quarterback? Is it?

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Speaker 1: Is it?

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Speaker 3: I guess The point is the play under is playing

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Speaker 3: under right now A good idea at plus two hundred.

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Speaker 1: I still think it's fine. So the tricky part is

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Speaker 1: the Vikings second pick, and.

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Speaker 3: Which is where knicks would go, of course, is.

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Speaker 1: Where yeah, either Knicks or Pinnix, whoever your you know

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Speaker 1: quarterback d jore is because if they don't trade up

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Speaker 1: into that top five to get a McCarthy or someone else,

533
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Speaker 1: and then one of those two guys is just sitting

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Speaker 1: there at their second pick, I think it'll be kind

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Speaker 1: of tough for them to pass and then just not

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Speaker 1: get either one of them and just you know, have

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Speaker 1: to roll into the season without drafting a quarterback. So

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Speaker 1: I think that's a tough one. If Minnesota does trade up,

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Speaker 1: then I think the the under is a really good

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Speaker 1: play because a lot of those teams in that back

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Speaker 1: half they don't want a quarterback and they probably don't

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Speaker 1: want to trade out unless they get really overwhelmed with

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Speaker 1: a deal. So once again, it all hinges on the

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Speaker 1: Minnesota Vikings trade since the pod number one, so we'll see.

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Speaker 1: I still think unders fine. I think we always, year

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Speaker 1: after year after year, we hype up the quarterbacks a lot.

547
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Speaker 1: We think there's a ton going and then we usually

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Speaker 1: get disappointed. So I still think the under there is

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Speaker 1: a fine.

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Speaker 3: Bet Evan thought in the under, I would be.

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Speaker 5: More inclined to take a stab at where Nix or

552
00:27:10,200 --> 00:27:13,480
Speaker 5: Pennix would go than for me to take a blanket

553
00:27:13,680 --> 00:27:17,120
Speaker 5: two to one on the under. So I know we've

554
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Speaker 5: talked about that in previous podcasts. I don't think I

555
00:27:19,840 --> 00:27:23,399
Speaker 5: really have a perfect situation at the moment that I would,

556
00:27:23,440 --> 00:27:25,600
Speaker 5: but if I were to try to attack that market,

557
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Speaker 5: that's probably one thing I was going to be looking at.

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00:27:30,760 --> 00:27:33,440
Speaker 3: Fair enough, and go back and listen if you haven't

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Speaker 3: done so already. Last week's episode, we did a whole

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Speaker 3: Bonix segment basically about the first round and the Broncos

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Speaker 3: to get them. Is that number is the same. I

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Speaker 3: just won seventy five for the Broncos to draft to

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Speaker 3: draft Bonex with their first pick, though with their first

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Speaker 3: pick minus one or no, maybe it's no just team

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Speaker 3: to land. Team to land Bonex would be the Broncos,

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Speaker 3: doesn't matter what pick it is. It could be first,

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Speaker 3: could be a second, so and they'll have a second

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Speaker 3: Actually right now, I don't think right Broncos don't have

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Speaker 3: a second round pick.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, okay, all right, that's kind of the thinking of

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Speaker 1: why they would have to take quarterback because they can't

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Speaker 1: wait until the second round just to grab one. So

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Speaker 1: that number seems ridiculous to me though. There's just there's

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Speaker 1: so many outcomes to lay minus one seventy five on

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Speaker 1: an exact match that just don't do that.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, there's better ways to do it. Neither think about

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00:28:21,720 --> 00:28:24,119
Speaker 5: the Vikings too. They have that pick and then they

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Speaker 5: don't pick again, I believe, till the fourth round. So

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Speaker 5: that is also why that slot at and that second

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Speaker 5: draft pick is very important for them and unless they

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Speaker 5: believe in Sam.

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Speaker 3: All right, Jacob, I'll let you. We'll wrap the quarterback

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Speaker 3: chatter the four and a half quarterbacks. What's your take

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Speaker 3: on that as of today?

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I played the under for small an article about it.

586
00:28:48,960 --> 00:28:52,160
Speaker 4: Bottom line to Meme, neither one of Bonex or Michael

587
00:28:52,160 --> 00:28:55,800
Speaker 4: Pennix is the first round caliber prospects. And you know,

588
00:28:55,840 --> 00:28:56,920
Speaker 4: it doesn't mean they're not going to go in the

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Speaker 4: first round. We've certainly seen some quarterbacks go earlier than

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Speaker 4: the should in the draft before. But I think Travis

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00:29:02,480 --> 00:29:04,200
Speaker 4: Broker down really well, it's going to come down to

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Speaker 4: the Vikings if they're still at twenty three, going to

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00:29:07,600 --> 00:29:09,960
Speaker 4: be tough for them to not take a quarterback given

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Speaker 4: their current situation. But I still think they find a

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Speaker 4: way to trade up and if they do, there's really

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Speaker 4: nobody else in the back half of the draft who

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Speaker 4: I think is going to be itching to take next

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Speaker 4: for Michael Pennix. I really don't see the Broncos or

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Speaker 4: Raiders doing it in the twelve to thirteen spots, So

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Speaker 4: to me, it's just going to come down to the Vikings,

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Speaker 4: and I think a bet on that under is a

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Speaker 4: bet that they trade up and a bet that Nix

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Speaker 4: and Penix just simply aren't first round caliber players.

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Speaker 3: Okay, there you go. I mean, and the Schrager thing

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00:29:44,360 --> 00:29:46,600
Speaker 3: is the Schrager Mack is a good way to bring

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00:29:46,640 --> 00:29:50,080
Speaker 3: this up again, right because he's got Nicks going twenty

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00:29:50,080 --> 00:29:52,440
Speaker 3: three with that second first round pick the Viking zone

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Speaker 3: as of right now. So that's why I think it's

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Speaker 3: still worth discussing and bringing up and now with the

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Speaker 3: overjuiced more than it's been really the whole process, and

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Speaker 3: you can still get two to one on the on

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00:30:04,400 --> 00:30:07,040
Speaker 3: the under worth bringing up. So you guys, all three

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Speaker 3: of you had you had thoughts at the beginning of

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Speaker 3: the show about draft position. So with that, I'll ask,

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Speaker 3: with some new markets populating and coming up, when is

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Speaker 3: the time this week? And we're gonna be back, and

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Speaker 3: I'll get to that a second. We'll tease what we

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Speaker 3: have coming up this week before Thursday and what we're

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Speaker 3: going to do for coverage over here at Action Network

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Speaker 3: on our podcast side. When is the time I'll go

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Speaker 3: around the horn. This is how we can wrap it

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Speaker 3: so with some new markets and if you guys have

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Speaker 3: more you want to give out, this is the time

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Speaker 3: to do so as well. With some of these new

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Speaker 3: markets that are coming up and that you're targeting. When

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Speaker 3: do you have to start having some conviction Travis on

627
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Speaker 3: things you're still kind of feeling iffy, uneasy, and you

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Speaker 3: start and you start firing. When when does that kind

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Speaker 3: of come to come to be come to fruition for

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Speaker 3: you this week?

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Speaker 1: Yeah, that was yesterday for me. So yesterday was when

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Speaker 1: I was like, all right, we're gonna start just hitting

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Speaker 1: a lot of these player over unders. I mentioned a

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Speaker 1: few of them at the top of the show, but

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Speaker 1: I think I ended up with eight total. Bowers was

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Speaker 1: another one over twelve and a half at plus one

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Speaker 1: sixty because basically, if the Jets don't take him at ten,

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Speaker 1: I could see him falling. You know, Colts is a

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00:31:17,000 --> 00:31:21,560
Speaker 1: popular spot, but titands are just tricky. They're just I mean,

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Speaker 1: there's a lot of positional value there versus Okay, it's

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Speaker 1: this guy an actual generational prospect. And also he didn't

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Speaker 1: actually test, and I think that's gonna it could possibly

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Speaker 1: hurt his draft stock. His taple looks really good, but

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Speaker 1: you know, if he didn't actually run the forty, is

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Speaker 1: that gonna, you know, hurt what he's called as like

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Speaker 1: I said, generational prospects. So I think he's another one.

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Speaker 1: And like I said, you're getting plus one sixty on

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Speaker 1: what I think is basically a coin fote of whether

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Speaker 1: or not the Jets take them. So that's another one

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Speaker 1: that I like. A new market that I thought was

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Speaker 1: interesting was over under six and a half first round trades.

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Speaker 1: Interested to get your thoughts on that. That seemed like

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Speaker 1: a really really high number to me, the fact that

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Speaker 1: I would have to hit seven trades to hit the over.

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Speaker 1: I think the under there is a good play as well.

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Speaker 1: I'm interested to see what you guys think about that.

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Speaker 4: I love I have written I haven't written down. Later today,

658
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Speaker 4: I'm going to go through some of the recent drafts

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Speaker 4: and figure out, like how many would have hit the

660
00:32:15,640 --> 00:32:18,080
Speaker 4: over under on that because I'm very curious by that market.

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00:32:18,560 --> 00:32:21,040
Speaker 4: No idea how to handicap it right now, but maybe

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Speaker 4: a bad time we get to Thursday. I lot some

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Speaker 4: more insight on that, but definitely interesting one.

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Speaker 3: Evin, you had some thoughts on that.

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Speaker 5: Oh it just yeah, it feels high, especially for just

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Speaker 5: a first round. I'd like to see the fine print

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Speaker 5: on that too, because there's you know, I'd like to

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Speaker 5: read the fine print.

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Speaker 1: I'll just leave it at that.

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Speaker 5: Just so I understand exactly what they're referring to in

671
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Speaker 5: terms of, you know, different picks and this and that.

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Speaker 2: But definitely a fun one.

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Speaker 3: I hadn't seen that, Jacob. Anything you're targeting now and

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Speaker 3: where you're going to take some more risks I think

675
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Speaker 3: at this stage, you know, because at some point you

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Speaker 3: got to say, all right, if I'm still weighing my

677
00:32:54,120 --> 00:33:00,080
Speaker 3: options here or there, Thursday's three days from now, right, So.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I'm looking to manage I'm looking to manage my

679
00:33:02,960 --> 00:33:05,480
Speaker 4: Dallas Turner position. I was giving that up pretty heavily,

680
00:33:06,520 --> 00:33:07,880
Speaker 4: you know, like a month and a half ago. I

681
00:33:07,920 --> 00:33:09,800
Speaker 4: was in on Dallas Turner to be the first defensive

682
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Speaker 4: player drafted at plus money. Smooths all the way back

683
00:33:13,680 --> 00:33:16,920
Speaker 4: down now to lat tos s. Team has been rising

684
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Speaker 4: a ton, and really it's just going to come down

685
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Speaker 4: to whether or not the Falcons can get past his

686
00:33:22,320 --> 00:33:25,920
Speaker 4: medicals talked about in the past. But their defensive coordinator,

687
00:33:26,000 --> 00:33:28,440
Speaker 4: Jimmy Lake was the coach at Washington when law too

688
00:33:28,640 --> 00:33:32,760
Speaker 4: initially medically retired, So some connection there and Lat two

689
00:33:32,840 --> 00:33:35,600
Speaker 4: ultimately just the most polished pass rusher in this class.

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00:33:35,640 --> 00:33:37,479
Speaker 4: So if the Falcons want somebody to come in right

691
00:33:37,480 --> 00:33:39,760
Speaker 4: away and push for ten sacks as a rookie, law

692
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Speaker 4: two is their guy. So I'm looking to manage that position.

693
00:33:43,360 --> 00:33:45,760
Speaker 4: I got some lot to first defensive player, some lot

694
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Speaker 4: to top ten. Those numbers have both dropped now and

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Speaker 4: then it did play a little bit to a Dallas

696
00:33:50,840 --> 00:33:54,040
Speaker 4: Turner over nine and a half. If he doesn't go

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00:33:54,160 --> 00:33:57,960
Speaker 4: to the Falcons at eight, I think that he's going

698
00:33:58,040 --> 00:34:00,800
Speaker 4: to drop out of the top ten. Also, I think

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00:34:00,960 --> 00:34:05,080
Speaker 4: the Falcons are a pretty prime trade down spot if

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00:34:05,120 --> 00:34:08,640
Speaker 4: somebody wants to jump the Bears for Roalmadoonza at that number,

701
00:34:09,520 --> 00:34:12,160
Speaker 4: So look for that because that would definitely alter some

702
00:34:12,160 --> 00:34:15,440
Speaker 4: of these defensive player markets, and you know, maybe the

703
00:34:15,480 --> 00:34:18,279
Speaker 4: Bears have a different feeling on who they like among.

704
00:34:18,040 --> 00:34:19,680
Speaker 2: This edge group than the Falcons would.

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00:34:19,719 --> 00:34:22,760
Speaker 4: But yeah, I'm looking to manage that Dallas Turner position

706
00:34:23,239 --> 00:34:24,239
Speaker 4: pretty heavily right now.

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00:34:25,480 --> 00:34:28,200
Speaker 3: Dallas Turner top ten is even money right now.

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00:34:28,960 --> 00:34:30,200
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's come all the way back then.

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00:34:32,040 --> 00:34:34,239
Speaker 3: And you're saying you wouldn't play that right now.

710
00:34:35,000 --> 00:34:38,560
Speaker 4: No, I would not, although I do think a scenario

711
00:34:38,560 --> 00:34:42,040
Speaker 4: that's interesting is the Jets, you know, obviously being heavily ranked,

712
00:34:42,040 --> 00:34:45,279
Speaker 4: heavily linked to brock Boers, definitely want to add to

713
00:34:45,360 --> 00:34:49,359
Speaker 4: their pass catching group. If they try to jump the

714
00:34:49,719 --> 00:34:52,400
Speaker 4: Bears at nine, go up to eight and get real madoonza,

715
00:34:52,960 --> 00:34:55,359
Speaker 4: that's going to shift a lot of things around. So

716
00:34:56,000 --> 00:34:58,080
Speaker 4: I keep an eye on that. And if the Falcons

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00:34:58,120 --> 00:35:00,000
Speaker 4: get back down to ten, maybe they still in to

718
00:35:00,040 --> 00:35:01,399
Speaker 4: taking Dallas Trainer at ten.

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00:35:01,520 --> 00:35:02,919
Speaker 2: So that's still in play.

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Speaker 3: Okay, Evan, you get the last word. Where are you

721
00:35:06,840 --> 00:35:09,360
Speaker 3: at between now and Thursday as far as when you

722
00:35:09,400 --> 00:35:12,759
Speaker 3: start getting uh, scratch the itch and try to be

723
00:35:12,760 --> 00:35:14,000
Speaker 3: a little more aggressive or not.

724
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Speaker 5: Yeah, I'm I'm a Travis. I mean I said I've

725
00:35:16,800 --> 00:35:19,360
Speaker 5: already been attacking and that's why I had like five

726
00:35:19,440 --> 00:35:22,160
Speaker 5: or six over unders that I thought were good. Initially,

727
00:35:22,800 --> 00:35:25,800
Speaker 5: the Dallas Turner stuff to go what Jacob said, I stopped.

728
00:35:26,560 --> 00:35:29,399
Speaker 5: I have enough of a position there. I'll probably at

729
00:35:29,440 --> 00:35:31,760
Speaker 5: some point by a little over nine and a half,

730
00:35:31,840 --> 00:35:35,480
Speaker 5: just because I've been the champion of the even money

731
00:35:35,520 --> 00:35:38,160
Speaker 5: top ten. I have enough of it, and I've kind

732
00:35:38,160 --> 00:35:39,920
Speaker 5: of been riding that train for a while now. But

733
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Speaker 5: the law two steam is real. He's probably one of

734
00:35:43,920 --> 00:35:46,360
Speaker 5: the more talented defenders, if not the most, so I

735
00:35:46,360 --> 00:35:49,800
Speaker 5: can understand why if Turner doesn't go there, he will

736
00:35:49,880 --> 00:35:53,400
Speaker 5: fall pretty hard. But I still do believe that, you know,

737
00:35:53,440 --> 00:35:56,040
Speaker 5: there's even a shot at nine, though I think the

738
00:35:56,080 --> 00:35:59,600
Speaker 5: bearer will go somewhere else. So that's how I feel there.

739
00:35:59,640 --> 00:36:02,439
Speaker 5: The one I've been trying to figure out, which might

740
00:36:02,480 --> 00:36:05,000
Speaker 5: be for Thursday or we might get more information, is

741
00:36:05,080 --> 00:36:11,520
Speaker 5: just after alt Fashanu Fuaga versus Fuatani, So the three

742
00:36:11,560 --> 00:36:14,799
Speaker 5: offensive linemen trying to figure out who's going to there

743
00:36:14,840 --> 00:36:18,120
Speaker 5: who's because max are really all over the place and

744
00:36:18,160 --> 00:36:21,759
Speaker 5: they're all really priced about the same to be the

745
00:36:21,800 --> 00:36:25,040
Speaker 5: second offensive lineman drafted. So that's some of the work

746
00:36:25,080 --> 00:36:27,840
Speaker 5: I've been doing. And one piece of advice, and I

747
00:36:27,880 --> 00:36:30,600
Speaker 5: probably maybe should have started with this, but I feel

748
00:36:30,600 --> 00:36:33,520
Speaker 5: like now that there's enough markets out when you go

749
00:36:33,600 --> 00:36:35,920
Speaker 5: to bet on these things, trying to figure out exactly

750
00:36:35,920 --> 00:36:38,680
Speaker 5: what you're looking for. Right, So if you like Bowers

751
00:36:38,680 --> 00:36:41,560
Speaker 5: to the Jets, there's probably four or five ways to

752
00:36:41,600 --> 00:36:44,200
Speaker 5: bet it, right, it's Bowers to the Jets. Specifically, it's

753
00:36:44,200 --> 00:36:48,440
Speaker 5: Bowers top ten, it's Jets first position drafted, or it's

754
00:36:48,560 --> 00:36:51,799
Speaker 5: Bowers over under. So just make sure you shop and

755
00:36:51,880 --> 00:36:54,360
Speaker 5: find the position you want because there might be better value.

756
00:36:54,440 --> 00:36:56,920
Speaker 5: So that's just a PSA.

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00:36:58,120 --> 00:36:59,319
Speaker 3: Hey, gentlemen, very good.

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Speaker 1: We are here.

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00:37:00,320 --> 00:37:02,960
Speaker 3: It is Draft week. We are back here. This is

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00:37:03,080 --> 00:37:05,239
Speaker 3: the deal. This is what we're doing this week. Two

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00:37:05,280 --> 00:37:08,520
Speaker 3: more episodes this week. So today is the twenty second

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Speaker 3: of April. That means we are back on Thursday, which

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Speaker 3: would bring us to Draft day day one, April twenty fifth.

764
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Speaker 3: We will have one last minute best Bets episode for

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Speaker 3: Round one of the draft. Thursday afternoon should go live

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Speaker 3: around one thirty two o'clock Eastern. That's episode one later

767
00:37:27,880 --> 00:37:31,279
Speaker 3: this week, and then our set including today, and then

768
00:37:31,320 --> 00:37:34,520
Speaker 3: the other episode we'll have out is overnight. We're gonna

769
00:37:34,560 --> 00:37:37,439
Speaker 3: get together after the first round of the draft late

770
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Speaker 3: in the night in the wee hours of the morning,

771
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Speaker 3: and we are going to do a quick round one react,

772
00:37:43,040 --> 00:37:46,799
Speaker 3: but a react to try to predict and set up

773
00:37:46,800 --> 00:37:50,080
Speaker 3: what might happen on Day two. And those markets can

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00:37:50,080 --> 00:37:53,200
Speaker 3: be very limited when we do go live and when

775
00:37:53,239 --> 00:37:55,439
Speaker 3: we get together to do that, but we're gonna whip

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00:37:55,520 --> 00:37:57,319
Speaker 3: something together. We did it last year and it was fun.

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00:37:57,880 --> 00:37:59,799
Speaker 3: I can't get over Michael Mayer still to the Raiders.

778
00:38:00,280 --> 00:38:03,319
Speaker 3: It was a fun overnight bonanza for us. So that's

779
00:38:03,360 --> 00:38:06,360
Speaker 3: the plan too, an overnight episode that we will record,

780
00:38:06,440 --> 00:38:09,760
Speaker 3: have out first thing, early early, first thing Friday morning

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00:38:10,040 --> 00:38:12,880
Speaker 3: that covers Day two of the NFL Draft, and then

782
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Speaker 3: look forward to this a week from now. A week

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Speaker 3: from today, we will have a special NFL Draft recap

784
00:38:19,719 --> 00:38:23,040
Speaker 3: and Draft grades episode with Chris Raybond and an old

785
00:38:23,120 --> 00:38:26,279
Speaker 3: friend of the Action Network podcast, Matthew Friedman. So they

786
00:38:26,280 --> 00:38:28,799
Speaker 3: will be back here next week when we know where

787
00:38:28,840 --> 00:38:31,080
Speaker 3: all the picks, we know where everyone is and how

788
00:38:31,120 --> 00:38:33,759
Speaker 3: it all shook out. That will be out next Monday afternoon.

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Speaker 3: So we look forward to being back with all of

790
00:38:35,440 --> 00:38:40,439
Speaker 3: you again on Thursday. Rapid Fire not a long show. Well,

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00:38:41,000 --> 00:38:43,680
Speaker 3: I'm fascinated and we'll get into I want to get

792
00:38:43,719 --> 00:38:48,000
Speaker 3: into that that the the draft trade market, which is

793
00:38:48,040 --> 00:38:50,480
Speaker 3: at six and a half unders it even money. How

794
00:38:50,520 --> 00:38:55,920
Speaker 3: many trades will there be on Thursday, that's fascinating. At

795
00:38:55,960 --> 00:38:58,120
Speaker 3: six and a half, that is the current price at

796
00:38:58,120 --> 00:39:01,480
Speaker 3: that market right now. So we will that can be

797
00:39:01,480 --> 00:39:03,840
Speaker 3: a jumping off point and hopefully at that stage Travis

798
00:39:03,840 --> 00:39:07,440
Speaker 3: will have more information to pick apart that particular market.

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Speaker 3: So that's what we're going to do. We'll be back

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00:39:08,840 --> 00:39:12,000
Speaker 3: here Thursday. Be on the lookout one thirty two o'clock

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Speaker 3: Eastern time for Travis Reed, Jacob Bayne, Evan Abrams, Brendan

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00:39:15,600 --> 00:39:17,680
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