1 00:00:00,280 --> 00:00:02,160 Speaker 1: Hi, it's me Bridger. 2 00:00:04,000 --> 00:00:07,960 Speaker 2: The plan obviously was to have a new episode this week, 3 00:00:08,039 --> 00:00:10,960 Speaker 2: but you know, if you're a news junkie like me, 4 00:00:11,200 --> 00:00:15,400 Speaker 2: you may may have read a story about Los Angeles 5 00:00:15,480 --> 00:00:19,360 Speaker 2: being on fire. That's kind of the current state of affairs. 6 00:00:19,360 --> 00:00:22,439 Speaker 2: I'm sitting in my kitchen. There's a lot of stuff 7 00:00:22,480 --> 00:00:28,320 Speaker 2: on fire, and it's just hell. I really can't help 8 00:00:28,360 --> 00:00:31,240 Speaker 2: but feel like this is sort of punishment for all 9 00:00:31,280 --> 00:00:34,440 Speaker 2: of the complaining I've done about rain on this podcast, 10 00:00:34,880 --> 00:00:38,280 Speaker 2: and for that, I'm sorry. I'll try to learn from this, 11 00:00:39,400 --> 00:00:43,279 Speaker 2: but you know, I whine about rain for years, and 12 00:00:43,440 --> 00:00:45,840 Speaker 2: now I seem to have a problem with wind and 13 00:00:46,000 --> 00:00:49,640 Speaker 2: fire and it's just starting to feel like there's no 14 00:00:49,840 --> 00:00:53,280 Speaker 2: extreme weather pattern that will make me happy. I don't 15 00:00:53,280 --> 00:00:56,160 Speaker 2: know what to say, but anyway, you know, it is 16 00:00:56,520 --> 00:01:01,360 Speaker 2: a horrible, horrible nightmare. Fortunately, I'm all right, and I 17 00:01:01,440 --> 00:01:07,000 Speaker 2: appreciate everybody emailing and messaging and commenting concerned about me 18 00:01:07,319 --> 00:01:11,280 Speaker 2: and on a lease in the backyard and everything. And 19 00:01:11,680 --> 00:01:15,120 Speaker 2: obviously not everyone did, and those people are now on 20 00:01:15,160 --> 00:01:20,479 Speaker 2: my list. I'll deal with you later, but yeah, I've 21 00:01:20,520 --> 00:01:22,320 Speaker 2: been very fortunate so far. 22 00:01:22,560 --> 00:01:27,600 Speaker 1: I'm okay. The backyard is still there. There's a light layer. 23 00:01:27,319 --> 00:01:30,800 Speaker 2: Of ash, so we probably won't be recording episodes back 24 00:01:30,840 --> 00:01:34,560 Speaker 2: there for a minute just due to everything in general, 25 00:01:35,080 --> 00:01:36,880 Speaker 2: but hopefully we can get back there soon. 26 00:01:37,959 --> 00:01:38,640 Speaker 1: If you feel like. 27 00:01:38,920 --> 00:01:44,000 Speaker 2: Helping with this horrible, terrible nightmare scenario that we're currently 28 00:01:44,040 --> 00:01:47,440 Speaker 2: living through, this is an easy way to help. You 29 00:01:47,480 --> 00:01:53,080 Speaker 2: can google LA two zero five zero fire guide and 30 00:01:53,320 --> 00:01:57,480 Speaker 2: the top result should be a volunteer and support guide 31 00:01:57,480 --> 00:02:01,080 Speaker 2: with links to donate or to volunteer if you happen 32 00:02:01,120 --> 00:02:03,080 Speaker 2: to be in the area all kinds of things. There 33 00:02:03,120 --> 00:02:06,920 Speaker 2: are at least a thousand ways to help, so just 34 00:02:06,960 --> 00:02:10,840 Speaker 2: take your pick, and if you can't or do not 35 00:02:11,000 --> 00:02:14,680 Speaker 2: want to do any of that, that's also fine. 36 00:02:14,960 --> 00:02:19,240 Speaker 1: Do your thing. I'm not your mom anyway. This episode is. 37 00:02:19,240 --> 00:02:25,760 Speaker 2: A rerun with Cola Scola, who is just an absolute miracle. 38 00:02:25,800 --> 00:02:29,160 Speaker 2: We all agree on that if you haven't heard it already, 39 00:02:29,160 --> 00:02:31,880 Speaker 2: you'll enjoy it. If you've heard it before, you will 40 00:02:31,960 --> 00:02:37,240 Speaker 2: enjoy it. I guess those are the two options. Oh 41 00:02:37,280 --> 00:02:41,400 Speaker 2: an update on this episode. Actually, at the time, my 42 00:02:41,600 --> 00:02:45,359 Speaker 2: doctor had just revealed to me that he was starting 43 00:02:45,360 --> 00:02:49,359 Speaker 2: a podcast, and as far as I know, as of 44 00:02:49,400 --> 00:02:54,800 Speaker 2: twenty twenty five, that podcast is no longer a podcast. 45 00:02:54,880 --> 00:02:59,160 Speaker 2: It stopped existing, and yet this one is still standing. 46 00:03:00,160 --> 00:03:02,760 Speaker 2: And I didn't have to go to medical school, so 47 00:03:03,960 --> 00:03:08,839 Speaker 2: look who came out on top doctor. Anyway, feel free 48 00:03:08,880 --> 00:03:11,960 Speaker 2: to listen to this episode or to dip into our 49 00:03:12,080 --> 00:03:16,960 Speaker 2: rich back catalog of other episodes. Try to enjoy something, 50 00:03:17,040 --> 00:03:20,760 Speaker 2: try to take care of yourself, or or don't. Again, 51 00:03:21,720 --> 00:03:25,800 Speaker 2: maybe you feel like letting yourself go. That's also an option. 52 00:03:26,240 --> 00:03:28,800 Speaker 2: I'm not here to force you to do anything. I 53 00:03:29,040 --> 00:03:32,600 Speaker 2: just offered these suggestions. You take them and you use 54 00:03:32,680 --> 00:03:34,560 Speaker 2: them to color your life in whatever. 55 00:03:34,280 --> 00:03:38,920 Speaker 1: Way you see fit. Oh my god, let's get into 56 00:03:38,960 --> 00:03:49,720 Speaker 1: the show. Invit. 57 00:03:49,800 --> 00:03:57,120 Speaker 3: Did you hear fun a man? Myself? Perfectly clear? But 58 00:03:57,280 --> 00:04:03,600 Speaker 3: you're I guess Tom, you gotta come to me empty 59 00:04:03,960 --> 00:04:11,880 Speaker 3: and I said, no, guest, your presences, presents, and I'm 60 00:04:11,960 --> 00:04:14,400 Speaker 3: already too much stuff. 61 00:04:15,200 --> 00:04:16,559 Speaker 1: So how do you dad? 62 00:04:16,720 --> 00:04:18,280 Speaker 3: Disurbey me? 63 00:04:26,920 --> 00:04:32,000 Speaker 2: Welcome to I said, no gifts. I am Bridger Wineger. 64 00:04:33,839 --> 00:04:36,719 Speaker 2: I hope you're doing okay. I hope you're having a 65 00:04:36,839 --> 00:04:42,159 Speaker 2: nice day. I what's going on? Let's see this morning, 66 00:04:42,160 --> 00:04:45,479 Speaker 2: I went to the doctor, you know, for just a 67 00:04:45,520 --> 00:04:51,200 Speaker 2: general checkup, and he told me that he has a podcast. 68 00:04:52,240 --> 00:04:54,719 Speaker 2: This was unprompted and of his little shocking for me. 69 00:04:55,320 --> 00:04:56,880 Speaker 2: So I just thought i'd let you know that there 70 00:04:56,960 --> 00:05:01,560 Speaker 2: is some level of competition out there, and I won't 71 00:05:01,600 --> 00:05:04,200 Speaker 2: be naming the doctor or the podcast. He's not getting 72 00:05:04,240 --> 00:05:08,480 Speaker 2: any advertising here. We have to move on. I'm today's guests. 73 00:05:08,480 --> 00:05:12,839 Speaker 2: I could not be more thrilled. One of the absolute funniest, 74 00:05:13,040 --> 00:05:17,360 Speaker 2: none other than Cola Scola Coal High Bridger. 75 00:05:17,800 --> 00:05:19,719 Speaker 1: Welcome to I said, no gifts, How are you? 76 00:05:20,120 --> 00:05:26,200 Speaker 4: I'm great. I just I'm sorry about the mole. The well. 77 00:05:26,360 --> 00:05:30,680 Speaker 4: I was listening to your Doctor's podcasts and today's topic 78 00:05:30,839 --> 00:05:32,440 Speaker 4: was your your mole. 79 00:05:32,760 --> 00:05:35,600 Speaker 2: Right, and it doesn't look like things are it's going 80 00:05:35,600 --> 00:05:37,239 Speaker 2: to be an issue, right. 81 00:05:37,200 --> 00:05:42,280 Speaker 1: He said? He said, it's not cancerous, but it is ugly, right, so. 82 00:05:42,800 --> 00:05:45,960 Speaker 2: And kind of just an unremovable It's just something I 83 00:05:46,000 --> 00:05:47,479 Speaker 2: have to live with at this point. 84 00:05:47,600 --> 00:05:50,799 Speaker 1: Yeah, insurance won't cover that, and yeah. 85 00:05:51,160 --> 00:05:54,240 Speaker 2: I'm not paying out of pocket, right, I'll live ugly 86 00:05:54,480 --> 00:05:57,440 Speaker 2: with this ugly mole before I spend a penny. So great, 87 00:05:58,320 --> 00:06:01,440 Speaker 2: I mean, I didn't obviously realized he was recording at 88 00:06:01,480 --> 00:06:04,640 Speaker 2: the time I was in the room, but I did 89 00:06:04,680 --> 00:06:07,359 Speaker 2: sign all of the sheets before going into the office. 90 00:06:07,920 --> 00:06:10,760 Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean it sounded like you were doing a 91 00:06:10,800 --> 00:06:13,680 Speaker 4: mic check. I mean it's opened with the two of 92 00:06:13,680 --> 00:06:15,520 Speaker 4: you going check check check one two. 93 00:06:15,680 --> 00:06:16,400 Speaker 1: This is Bridger. 94 00:06:17,000 --> 00:06:19,839 Speaker 2: Well, when somebody, when somebody tells me to do something, 95 00:06:19,920 --> 00:06:21,760 Speaker 2: I just kind of followed directions. I got at the 96 00:06:21,800 --> 00:06:23,720 Speaker 2: doctor's office to cause trouble. 97 00:06:23,560 --> 00:06:24,400 Speaker 1: Right, right, right right. 98 00:06:24,440 --> 00:06:27,760 Speaker 2: You're from Utah, right, And he's a medical professional, for 99 00:06:27,839 --> 00:06:30,200 Speaker 2: all I know. He just wanted to check my throat 100 00:06:30,360 --> 00:06:33,280 Speaker 2: or what have you. Yes, and I trust him. I've 101 00:06:33,640 --> 00:06:38,480 Speaker 2: seen him three times now, so that's enough. There's the charm. Yeah, RTA, 102 00:06:38,560 --> 00:06:41,000 Speaker 2: And I know you know he's taken some sort of oath. 103 00:06:41,800 --> 00:06:42,279 Speaker 1: Mm hmmm. 104 00:06:43,000 --> 00:06:46,200 Speaker 2: I had had listen. I actually had a very stressful 105 00:06:46,240 --> 00:06:48,400 Speaker 2: time on my way to the doctor. There was the 106 00:06:48,440 --> 00:06:53,960 Speaker 2: world's longest train stopping. There was a train that truly 107 00:06:54,080 --> 00:06:56,120 Speaker 2: was bisecting Los Angeles. 108 00:06:56,520 --> 00:06:59,320 Speaker 4: Oh ye, So you're in your car and then you're 109 00:06:59,360 --> 00:07:01,320 Speaker 4: waiting for train to pass. 110 00:07:01,240 --> 00:07:04,720 Speaker 2: Right, and the train wasn't passing, and I ended up 111 00:07:04,720 --> 00:07:06,640 Speaker 2: having to drive beyond the train. 112 00:07:07,200 --> 00:07:09,640 Speaker 4: Wait, so you are your neck and neck, you're racing 113 00:07:09,680 --> 00:07:13,680 Speaker 4: the train, get around it your neck and neck, and 114 00:07:13,720 --> 00:07:15,760 Speaker 4: you cut it off in order to make it to 115 00:07:15,840 --> 00:07:17,840 Speaker 4: the doctor's appointment. 116 00:07:17,600 --> 00:07:23,680 Speaker 2: Right only to be secretly recording this kind of personal issue, 117 00:07:24,520 --> 00:07:27,880 Speaker 2: this mole that I've been living with through the pandemic worryings. 118 00:07:28,200 --> 00:07:31,000 Speaker 2: Just am I going to be having this hideous thing 119 00:07:31,040 --> 00:07:31,680 Speaker 2: on me forever? 120 00:07:32,040 --> 00:07:34,440 Speaker 1: And now you know you you will? I will? How 121 00:07:34,440 --> 00:07:36,800 Speaker 1: do you move forward? You don't? 122 00:07:37,120 --> 00:07:40,640 Speaker 2: You have to dwell, you have to live there. This 123 00:07:40,840 --> 00:07:44,320 Speaker 2: is just eat you from the inside out. And just 124 00:07:45,320 --> 00:07:46,760 Speaker 2: that's the sort of situation there. 125 00:07:46,840 --> 00:07:47,680 Speaker 1: You are now. 126 00:07:49,800 --> 00:07:52,320 Speaker 2: Kind of one of those dead like you see those 127 00:07:52,320 --> 00:07:54,600 Speaker 2: photos of a fox that's kind of just been eaten 128 00:07:54,640 --> 00:07:58,480 Speaker 2: from the inside out lying in the snow carcass. 129 00:07:58,120 --> 00:08:01,840 Speaker 1: I think we have the same search hist Bridger. I'm 130 00:08:01,840 --> 00:08:05,480 Speaker 1: not sure what you're searching. I you know, I'm constantly 131 00:08:05,520 --> 00:08:10,360 Speaker 1: looking for a rotting foxes. What are you talking about? 132 00:08:10,600 --> 00:08:14,360 Speaker 2: I feel like I've seen you must. I actually don't 133 00:08:14,360 --> 00:08:15,960 Speaker 2: know where this would have come from, but I feel 134 00:08:16,000 --> 00:08:19,040 Speaker 2: like at some point, some sort of time lapse footage 135 00:08:19,080 --> 00:08:22,040 Speaker 2: has crossed my desk of a fox being kind of 136 00:08:22,080 --> 00:08:23,240 Speaker 2: devoured by nature. 137 00:08:23,400 --> 00:08:25,640 Speaker 1: You know what, I won't lie, I can. 138 00:08:25,840 --> 00:08:28,120 Speaker 4: I can conjure that image in my mind, which means 139 00:08:28,120 --> 00:08:30,480 Speaker 4: I must have seen it at some point as well. 140 00:08:30,800 --> 00:08:33,920 Speaker 2: There must be some sort of maybe I don't know, 141 00:08:33,920 --> 00:08:37,000 Speaker 2: a National geographic or Planet Earth or where they're showing 142 00:08:37,080 --> 00:08:40,240 Speaker 2: right where they kind of blindside you with dead animal. 143 00:08:40,440 --> 00:08:44,320 Speaker 2: The view they must view they have the they will 144 00:08:44,360 --> 00:08:47,480 Speaker 2: just bring in various animal corpse and put them in 145 00:08:47,520 --> 00:08:50,320 Speaker 2: the table and just let that be topic of conversation. 146 00:08:50,400 --> 00:08:53,200 Speaker 1: Occasionally they just let it be something to cut to, 147 00:08:53,720 --> 00:08:58,200 Speaker 1: you know, just the swarm of flies devouring of all 148 00:08:58,240 --> 00:09:04,160 Speaker 1: the ladies talk. It's my favorite part. Yeah, Cole, what 149 00:09:04,200 --> 00:09:05,000 Speaker 1: have you been up to? 150 00:09:06,000 --> 00:09:06,200 Speaker 3: Oh? 151 00:09:06,440 --> 00:09:07,000 Speaker 1: I don't know. 152 00:09:07,840 --> 00:09:13,200 Speaker 4: I don't know, I don't know nothing. Everything I've been 153 00:09:13,360 --> 00:09:16,079 Speaker 4: you know, everything's a chore. 154 00:09:16,840 --> 00:09:19,439 Speaker 1: Right. Do you feel like it's getting harder and harder? 155 00:09:20,400 --> 00:09:24,679 Speaker 1: I always, ever since I was a child, everything's been 156 00:09:24,720 --> 00:09:29,320 Speaker 1: getting harder and harder, And maybe everything will just continue 157 00:09:29,360 --> 00:09:33,120 Speaker 1: to get harder and harder until it's unbearable and then death. 158 00:09:33,640 --> 00:09:35,400 Speaker 1: I think that's probably true. 159 00:09:35,440 --> 00:09:38,000 Speaker 2: I think that there's like a through your twenties, things 160 00:09:38,280 --> 00:09:41,760 Speaker 2: get a little bit easier and then I mean, isn't 161 00:09:41,840 --> 00:09:44,959 Speaker 2: it just the inevitable that you grow weaker, more tired, 162 00:09:45,520 --> 00:09:45,800 Speaker 2: and the. 163 00:09:45,840 --> 00:09:51,200 Speaker 4: Challenges the body? Yeah, I this time lapse. We are 164 00:09:51,240 --> 00:09:54,640 Speaker 4: all the fox on the table at the View, just 165 00:09:55,480 --> 00:09:59,200 Speaker 4: being eaten from the inside while the ladies talk about, 166 00:09:59,679 --> 00:10:02,360 Speaker 4: you know, whatever they talk about. 167 00:10:03,880 --> 00:10:04,280 Speaker 1: I haven't. 168 00:10:05,080 --> 00:10:06,520 Speaker 2: I don't know the last time. I don't know that 169 00:10:06,520 --> 00:10:08,480 Speaker 2: I've actually ever watched a full episode of the View. 170 00:10:08,520 --> 00:10:11,120 Speaker 2: Do you have you ever sat down and just set 171 00:10:11,200 --> 00:10:13,199 Speaker 2: through the View? You still love it? 172 00:10:13,520 --> 00:10:14,360 Speaker 1: Really? I don't. 173 00:10:14,520 --> 00:10:16,079 Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean actually I don't know why I ask 174 00:10:16,200 --> 00:10:19,040 Speaker 2: like that. Of course, it's it's a very entertaining thing 175 00:10:19,080 --> 00:10:22,480 Speaker 2: to watch them. Yeah, but now anything, I don't like 176 00:10:22,559 --> 00:10:25,719 Speaker 2: reality anything. Reality is too stressful for me. 177 00:10:26,040 --> 00:10:32,760 Speaker 4: Right, competition shows, Real Housewives, Oh, that's so anxiety inducing. 178 00:10:33,559 --> 00:10:38,160 Speaker 2: I'm only recently watching the Housewives, which and only because 179 00:10:38,200 --> 00:10:40,320 Speaker 2: it's the Salt Lake City Housewives, and so it's Oh, 180 00:10:41,120 --> 00:10:43,120 Speaker 2: I feel like I had no choice. And then it 181 00:10:43,160 --> 00:10:45,520 Speaker 2: took over for me, it really because once I settled 182 00:10:45,520 --> 00:10:49,760 Speaker 2: into that energy, which was too much for me. Yeah, 183 00:10:49,800 --> 00:10:52,199 Speaker 2: I'm enjoying it, but I can't the rest of them. 184 00:10:52,559 --> 00:10:55,120 Speaker 2: I can't get into. Well, you got to support your mom. 185 00:10:55,280 --> 00:10:59,240 Speaker 2: I know that she's sort of the star of that show. Well, look, 186 00:10:59,280 --> 00:11:03,320 Speaker 2: they put her hell and those auditions, and she did 187 00:11:03,480 --> 00:11:06,280 Speaker 2: everything to get on. She started her own little business, 188 00:11:06,440 --> 00:11:09,679 Speaker 2: turned it into an empire. Have you really been watching 189 00:11:09,760 --> 00:11:12,720 Speaker 2: the whole show. Oh, I've seen every episode of that season, 190 00:11:12,760 --> 00:11:16,520 Speaker 2: and you do like it. I do enjoy watching it, Okay. 191 00:11:16,559 --> 00:11:19,240 Speaker 2: I didn't expect to, because I have I know a 192 00:11:19,240 --> 00:11:21,200 Speaker 2: lot of people and I'm sure you do too, a 193 00:11:21,200 --> 00:11:23,960 Speaker 2: lot of people who love all of the housewives. 194 00:11:24,000 --> 00:11:25,720 Speaker 1: Yes, and I could not. 195 00:11:26,280 --> 00:11:29,000 Speaker 2: I tried maybe Beverly Hills or something at some point, 196 00:11:29,559 --> 00:11:31,840 Speaker 2: and I think I watched two episodes and that was 197 00:11:31,880 --> 00:11:36,040 Speaker 2: it for me. But the Salt Lake Housewives are so 198 00:11:36,640 --> 00:11:41,040 Speaker 2: unbelievably low rent, and I just feel like they're always 199 00:11:41,080 --> 00:11:45,880 Speaker 2: in an extremely drafty room and there's something about them 200 00:11:46,960 --> 00:11:50,720 Speaker 2: that feels right and I can get into it. And 201 00:11:50,840 --> 00:11:53,800 Speaker 2: it's also like it's just fun to see them hosting 202 00:11:54,679 --> 00:11:58,560 Speaker 2: at events that are supposedly classy and that I'm like, oh, 203 00:11:58,840 --> 00:11:59,840 Speaker 2: that's next to them. 204 00:11:59,679 --> 00:12:04,240 Speaker 4: All right, right, right, right today we're at the tcby 205 00:12:05,120 --> 00:12:06,440 Speaker 4: for the big charity event. 206 00:12:06,920 --> 00:12:09,640 Speaker 1: Yeah. Yeah, I mean. 207 00:12:10,000 --> 00:12:14,320 Speaker 2: The shows are so convoluted and so I mean everything 208 00:12:14,360 --> 00:12:18,000 Speaker 2: about no one goes to that many events or even 209 00:12:18,000 --> 00:12:19,400 Speaker 2: interacts with their friends that much. 210 00:12:19,800 --> 00:12:22,800 Speaker 1: Oh yeah, or I don't. 211 00:12:22,840 --> 00:12:26,480 Speaker 4: I can't imagine like seeing like fighting with people and 212 00:12:26,520 --> 00:12:30,080 Speaker 4: then continuing to see them for years and years, you know, 213 00:12:30,280 --> 00:12:36,400 Speaker 4: like I've maybe had like like one disagreement with like 214 00:12:36,480 --> 00:12:39,760 Speaker 4: maybe three friends. You know, then it took like a 215 00:12:39,840 --> 00:12:41,719 Speaker 4: year to recover from that, you know. 216 00:12:42,320 --> 00:12:44,320 Speaker 2: Right, Like I'll go to a wonderful dinner with a 217 00:12:44,360 --> 00:12:46,000 Speaker 2: friend and not see them for two of yous. 218 00:12:46,040 --> 00:12:50,360 Speaker 4: Sure, sure, and nothing bad happened at all, Right, but these. 219 00:12:50,160 --> 00:12:52,000 Speaker 1: Shows are made to just stress you out. 220 00:12:52,080 --> 00:12:55,200 Speaker 4: And it's like, oh, is Amber going to show up 221 00:12:55,200 --> 00:12:58,000 Speaker 4: to the party and You're just on the edge of 222 00:12:58,040 --> 00:13:00,600 Speaker 4: your seat and I just find my self like my 223 00:13:00,720 --> 00:13:04,280 Speaker 4: stomach is in knots over like something I don't care 224 00:13:04,360 --> 00:13:07,600 Speaker 4: about about people that I don't care about that I 225 00:13:07,600 --> 00:13:09,920 Speaker 4: would hate in real life, And I think, why am 226 00:13:09,920 --> 00:13:14,280 Speaker 4: I doing this myself? So instead I've been watching a 227 00:13:14,360 --> 00:13:18,360 Speaker 4: lecture on the plague? Wait, you've been watching a lecture 228 00:13:18,360 --> 00:13:22,680 Speaker 4: on the plague? Yes, who is doing a lecture? It's 229 00:13:22,800 --> 00:13:25,920 Speaker 4: through the Great Courses. Plus do they s this podcast? 230 00:13:26,120 --> 00:13:26,760 Speaker 4: They should? 231 00:13:27,000 --> 00:13:28,560 Speaker 1: I can't believe they haven't yet. 232 00:13:28,760 --> 00:13:34,240 Speaker 4: It's like it's like Masterclass, but Masterclass is really slick 233 00:13:34,400 --> 00:13:38,480 Speaker 4: and sexy and like celebrities, right, It's sort of like 234 00:13:38,559 --> 00:13:41,280 Speaker 4: Masterclass goes to these celebrities and says like, do you 235 00:13:41,320 --> 00:13:44,080 Speaker 4: want to hear some money. 236 00:13:43,240 --> 00:13:46,480 Speaker 1: Talk, right, it doesn't have to be about anything. Yeah, 237 00:13:46,480 --> 00:13:48,760 Speaker 1: and you don't really learn anything. It's just Aaron Zork 238 00:13:48,800 --> 00:13:52,080 Speaker 1: and being like, man, I love cocaine and writing, and 239 00:13:52,120 --> 00:13:54,400 Speaker 1: you're like, oh, why am I paying for this? Okay? 240 00:13:55,679 --> 00:13:59,240 Speaker 4: But then the Great Courses plus is people that should 241 00:13:59,320 --> 00:14:04,920 Speaker 4: never be on It's these college professors who have no charisma. 242 00:14:05,000 --> 00:14:08,160 Speaker 4: They're on these horrible sets. It's like a substitute teacher 243 00:14:08,679 --> 00:14:09,760 Speaker 4: sort of energy. 244 00:14:10,040 --> 00:14:13,760 Speaker 2: It's like tele learning at college that was called something 245 00:14:13,800 --> 00:14:14,880 Speaker 2: like distance learning, or. 246 00:14:14,920 --> 00:14:19,040 Speaker 4: They're reading off of a teleprompter. They don't do any cuts, 247 00:14:19,120 --> 00:14:24,080 Speaker 4: so often they'll stumble, Oh that sounds incredible to me. Yeah, 248 00:14:24,120 --> 00:14:28,600 Speaker 4: it's very soothing. But I just finished the twenty four 249 00:14:28,640 --> 00:14:29,840 Speaker 4: part lecture on the plague. 250 00:14:30,320 --> 00:14:34,720 Speaker 1: Twenty four parts? How long is each part? Half an hour? Oh? 251 00:14:34,760 --> 00:14:38,240 Speaker 2: Okay, so that's not bad. No, And do you feel 252 00:14:38,280 --> 00:14:39,400 Speaker 2: like you learned about the plague? 253 00:14:39,960 --> 00:14:40,760 Speaker 1: Yeah? I do. 254 00:14:41,200 --> 00:14:43,360 Speaker 2: I want to hear what you've learned. I mean, just 255 00:14:43,400 --> 00:14:44,480 Speaker 2: a brief summary would be. 256 00:14:44,400 --> 00:14:48,680 Speaker 4: I learned that it was actually really bad, like despite 257 00:14:48,720 --> 00:14:52,520 Speaker 4: all the you know, like movies and popular songs and 258 00:14:52,640 --> 00:14:57,960 Speaker 4: like you know, culture, it was actually at the time 259 00:14:59,520 --> 00:15:04,440 Speaker 4: people I didn't love it, and that is it took me, 260 00:15:04,800 --> 00:15:09,040 Speaker 4: you know, twelve hours of that lecture to sort of 261 00:15:09,080 --> 00:15:09,840 Speaker 4: put that together. 262 00:15:10,080 --> 00:15:12,000 Speaker 2: I imagine you're so a little bit in denial. 263 00:15:12,600 --> 00:15:15,480 Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean I learned about, you know, how they 264 00:15:15,520 --> 00:15:17,080 Speaker 4: blamed the Jews. 265 00:15:18,080 --> 00:15:19,160 Speaker 1: I learned. 266 00:15:20,800 --> 00:15:24,120 Speaker 4: Just all sorts of awful, awful things about how there's 267 00:15:24,240 --> 00:15:28,240 Speaker 4: even some some people think there was more than the 268 00:15:28,280 --> 00:15:31,320 Speaker 4: plague going on, that there was anthrax. 269 00:15:30,920 --> 00:15:32,840 Speaker 1: Or you know, anthrags. 270 00:15:32,920 --> 00:15:36,320 Speaker 4: Yeah, which is I didn't realize is like a naturally 271 00:15:36,440 --> 00:15:39,720 Speaker 4: occurring thing, right, It was so so much. 272 00:15:39,560 --> 00:15:43,120 Speaker 2: To me like a ninety like a sexy nineties thousands poison. 273 00:15:43,160 --> 00:15:44,480 Speaker 1: I thought it was from the nineties. 274 00:15:45,400 --> 00:15:49,760 Speaker 2: Yeah, wow, anthrugs, Wait is it a bacteria? 275 00:15:50,200 --> 00:15:51,800 Speaker 1: I guess I don't know. 276 00:15:51,480 --> 00:15:55,440 Speaker 4: I'm saying yes, but I but only because I want 277 00:15:55,440 --> 00:15:56,520 Speaker 4: to have an answer for you. 278 00:15:56,720 --> 00:15:59,200 Speaker 1: But the truth is I don't. I don't really remember, 279 00:16:00,200 --> 00:16:00,600 Speaker 1: like maybe. 280 00:16:00,640 --> 00:16:04,120 Speaker 2: And the reason I associate anthrax with like a more 281 00:16:04,240 --> 00:16:08,320 Speaker 2: modern thing is well outside of the early thousands scare 282 00:16:08,640 --> 00:16:12,600 Speaker 2: is that I think there's like the metal band Anthrax. 283 00:16:13,280 --> 00:16:15,280 Speaker 2: It's kind of in the metallica. 284 00:16:14,720 --> 00:16:16,000 Speaker 1: Realm, that kind of thing. 285 00:16:16,080 --> 00:16:21,240 Speaker 4: So those are my two big associations with anthrax. Some 286 00:16:21,320 --> 00:16:27,280 Speaker 4: people slash themselves with urine. Okay, they thought, like the 287 00:16:27,280 --> 00:16:31,000 Speaker 4: fumes from urine and like from the latrines would would 288 00:16:31,120 --> 00:16:33,720 Speaker 4: like kill the bad plague air. 289 00:16:33,880 --> 00:16:38,680 Speaker 2: Right, Well, I mean urine kind of has some medicinal 290 00:16:38,880 --> 00:16:41,360 Speaker 2: I mean, don't they tell you to pee on yourself if. 291 00:16:41,240 --> 00:16:43,400 Speaker 1: You get your doctor? 292 00:16:44,720 --> 00:16:47,160 Speaker 2: I remember he got me up on the table and said, okay, 293 00:16:47,160 --> 00:16:50,280 Speaker 2: now just pee, just let it go, let it go, 294 00:16:50,920 --> 00:16:52,680 Speaker 2: Let's get the mic on you, and then just start 295 00:16:52,720 --> 00:16:53,640 Speaker 2: to pee. 296 00:16:54,480 --> 00:16:58,640 Speaker 1: Like I really want to talk about this mole. But okay, yeah. 297 00:16:58,960 --> 00:17:01,600 Speaker 2: Yeah, well I was going to say, I think, I mean, 298 00:17:01,640 --> 00:17:03,760 Speaker 2: I could be wrong. If you get stung by a 299 00:17:03,840 --> 00:17:09,080 Speaker 2: sting ray, you're supposed to pee pee or someone jellyfish, jellyfish, 300 00:17:09,119 --> 00:17:12,720 Speaker 2: that's right. Yes, That's why I've had so many problems 301 00:17:12,720 --> 00:17:13,640 Speaker 2: with stingrays. 302 00:17:14,960 --> 00:17:19,080 Speaker 4: You're always pissing on yourself after these stingray attacks. Rest 303 00:17:19,080 --> 00:17:23,200 Speaker 4: in peace, Steve Irwin, who was coming by? Yeah, which 304 00:17:23,240 --> 00:17:24,920 Speaker 4: is I know why you had me on here. 305 00:17:25,800 --> 00:17:27,800 Speaker 1: I asked you to come on. Well, you wrote the poem. 306 00:17:28,560 --> 00:17:31,840 Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, stingray, stingray. 307 00:17:31,920 --> 00:17:34,760 Speaker 1: You killed Steve Stingray, Stingray. 308 00:17:34,840 --> 00:17:38,439 Speaker 2: I'm relieved you wrote kind of you it's kind of 309 00:17:38,440 --> 00:17:42,359 Speaker 2: a hit piece that you wrote. Yeah, you've been waiting 310 00:17:42,480 --> 00:17:44,120 Speaker 2: years to finally get this out. 311 00:17:44,280 --> 00:17:48,480 Speaker 4: Oh yeah, well, speaking of poetry, the lecture on the 312 00:17:48,520 --> 00:17:51,159 Speaker 4: plague ended, and then I won't talk about it anymore. 313 00:17:51,200 --> 00:17:53,439 Speaker 1: But I need to get my money for I'm happy 314 00:17:53,480 --> 00:17:54,199 Speaker 1: to talk about this. 315 00:17:54,280 --> 00:17:55,720 Speaker 2: I don't want you to feel like we can't talk 316 00:17:55,760 --> 00:17:58,200 Speaker 2: about the great Like the only reason I don't want 317 00:17:58,200 --> 00:18:00,720 Speaker 2: to talk about it is because I actually haven't retained 318 00:18:00,760 --> 00:18:03,320 Speaker 2: that much information, right, And now you're kind of being 319 00:18:03,359 --> 00:18:05,920 Speaker 2: exposed the moment that you tell someone you read something 320 00:18:06,000 --> 00:18:07,359 Speaker 2: or have seen something. 321 00:18:07,240 --> 00:18:10,080 Speaker 4: Like, oh yeah, it's a fear to get it. Yeah, 322 00:18:10,200 --> 00:18:17,000 Speaker 4: I'm terrified. I'm sweating. But it ended with it was 323 00:18:17,720 --> 00:18:21,480 Speaker 4: made like in twenty seventeen, so it was pre COVID, right, 324 00:18:21,960 --> 00:18:26,760 Speaker 4: But basically she said there are more, bigger, worse plagues coming. 325 00:18:26,800 --> 00:18:30,000 Speaker 4: There was even an outbreak of the plague in the 326 00:18:30,119 --> 00:18:34,000 Speaker 4: nineties in India and now and then there was a 327 00:18:34,119 --> 00:18:38,280 Speaker 4: variant of it that ended up on Madagascar that is 328 00:18:38,760 --> 00:18:44,720 Speaker 4: resistant to all antibiotics. But then she for some reason 329 00:18:44,800 --> 00:18:47,919 Speaker 4: decided like, oh, well, you know what, but it's not 330 00:18:48,000 --> 00:18:50,480 Speaker 4: all bad, Like she had to have like end on 331 00:18:50,520 --> 00:18:54,760 Speaker 4: a positive note, and her positive note was if we 332 00:18:54,920 --> 00:19:02,160 Speaker 4: hadn't had the plague, Chaucer might not have had benefactors 333 00:19:02,920 --> 00:19:06,600 Speaker 4: who came into money because of the plague, So we 334 00:19:06,720 --> 00:19:10,560 Speaker 4: might not have had Chaucer. Yeah, so it's like, oh good, 335 00:19:10,600 --> 00:19:13,960 Speaker 4: I feel better that there might be some great poetry. 336 00:19:15,000 --> 00:19:16,040 Speaker 1: I can't believe. 337 00:19:16,720 --> 00:19:20,119 Speaker 2: I mean, I feel like there have been several excellent 338 00:19:21,119 --> 00:19:25,640 Speaker 2: COVID produced you know, there's the Netflix show, and we're 339 00:19:25,640 --> 00:19:28,760 Speaker 2: all grateful for these crown You mean The Crowd was 340 00:19:29,680 --> 00:19:31,240 Speaker 2: kind of produced because of COVID. 341 00:19:31,440 --> 00:19:31,680 Speaker 1: Yeah. 342 00:19:31,800 --> 00:19:37,000 Speaker 2: Yeah, Actually, speaking of that, I will say and say it, 343 00:19:37,040 --> 00:19:39,480 Speaker 2: but I'm just going to say, the one person that 344 00:19:39,520 --> 00:19:44,040 Speaker 2: has created anything within this pandemic worth watching, and I'm 345 00:19:44,040 --> 00:19:46,920 Speaker 2: so glad you're here is you. And you produce it 346 00:19:47,400 --> 00:19:52,560 Speaker 2: very fast. When you put you made your special like 347 00:19:52,960 --> 00:19:56,399 Speaker 2: late April of last year or something. Yeah, yeah, so 348 00:19:56,440 --> 00:19:58,840 Speaker 2: we were like a month into the pandemic and you 349 00:19:58,960 --> 00:19:59,720 Speaker 2: had like a. 350 00:20:00,040 --> 00:20:04,840 Speaker 4: One opportunity, and I said, here we go. This is 351 00:20:04,920 --> 00:20:08,800 Speaker 4: going to be it, and I this is going to 352 00:20:09,000 --> 00:20:14,679 Speaker 4: launch me into the stratosphere. And lo and behold, a 353 00:20:14,720 --> 00:20:16,960 Speaker 4: few people have watched it and it have been very 354 00:20:17,040 --> 00:20:18,000 Speaker 4: nice about it. 355 00:20:18,000 --> 00:20:21,879 Speaker 2: It is the only only thing that has been producing 356 00:20:21,920 --> 00:20:24,560 Speaker 2: the last year in COVID conditions that I think is 357 00:20:24,600 --> 00:20:25,879 Speaker 2: worth consuming. 358 00:20:26,320 --> 00:20:27,280 Speaker 1: Thanks Bragerie. 359 00:20:27,320 --> 00:20:30,120 Speaker 2: I'm not I'm not just saying if the listener has 360 00:20:30,160 --> 00:20:33,920 Speaker 2: not seen help, I'm stuck. Yeah, it's an absolute I've 361 00:20:33,960 --> 00:20:37,000 Speaker 2: seen it twice now, and I mean I had seen 362 00:20:37,040 --> 00:20:39,679 Speaker 2: the live show, which is wonderful, but it translated so 363 00:20:39,760 --> 00:20:43,760 Speaker 2: well to you've shot on like an iPhone camera or something, right, Yeah, 364 00:20:44,280 --> 00:20:46,439 Speaker 2: had you been planning on doing it or was it 365 00:20:46,520 --> 00:20:47,520 Speaker 2: just like I'm bored? 366 00:20:47,560 --> 00:20:50,760 Speaker 4: And it was like, I really I did the live 367 00:20:50,840 --> 00:20:55,040 Speaker 4: show and I wanted I hoped it would be made 368 00:20:55,040 --> 00:20:59,920 Speaker 4: into a special, but then nobody wanted it. And also, well, 369 00:21:00,200 --> 00:21:04,880 Speaker 4: you know, people don't have the best taste, and by 370 00:21:04,920 --> 00:21:09,240 Speaker 4: people I mean me. But I always wondered, like, how 371 00:21:09,240 --> 00:21:13,320 Speaker 4: would I produce this as a special anyway when so 372 00:21:13,440 --> 00:21:17,000 Speaker 4: much of it hinges on the fact that I'm just 373 00:21:17,119 --> 00:21:21,439 Speaker 4: alone on stage doing costume changes. Very low stakes, right, 374 00:21:21,720 --> 00:21:24,520 Speaker 4: So actually having to do it alone in my apartment 375 00:21:24,600 --> 00:21:29,440 Speaker 4: was the perfect like you know, the correct steaks for that. 376 00:21:29,800 --> 00:21:32,080 Speaker 1: Right? Was it hard? 377 00:21:33,040 --> 00:21:36,760 Speaker 2: It was shooting anything? I mean on any level, it's 378 00:21:36,760 --> 00:21:38,320 Speaker 2: difficult and it looks very good. 379 00:21:38,680 --> 00:21:42,320 Speaker 4: Oh stop, I think it looks terrible, But I'm still 380 00:21:42,440 --> 00:21:44,840 Speaker 4: very pleased with under the conditions, the. 381 00:21:44,800 --> 00:21:47,159 Speaker 1: Fact that it was shot by one person, and I 382 00:21:47,160 --> 00:21:52,800 Speaker 1: mean sh I edited it. I did everything, my makeup, hair, everything. 383 00:21:52,800 --> 00:21:56,919 Speaker 1: How long did it take? Like ten days? Because everything 384 00:21:56,960 --> 00:21:59,600 Speaker 1: had been written already, and so then I just sort 385 00:21:59,600 --> 00:22:02,159 Speaker 1: of made a schedule and I filmed it all at 386 00:22:02,240 --> 00:22:06,040 Speaker 1: night because my neighbors are loud and there's street noise 387 00:22:06,080 --> 00:22:07,120 Speaker 1: because I live in New York. 388 00:22:07,440 --> 00:22:10,159 Speaker 2: So yeah, And did it ever feel like it was? 389 00:22:10,520 --> 00:22:12,679 Speaker 2: Did you feel like, oh I should just stop? I 390 00:22:12,680 --> 00:22:15,200 Speaker 2: feel like after two days of that, I'm like, never mind, 391 00:22:15,240 --> 00:22:16,320 Speaker 2: I'm not Now. 392 00:22:16,359 --> 00:22:19,680 Speaker 1: When I start doing something, I'm too afraid to stop. 393 00:22:21,080 --> 00:22:24,520 Speaker 1: I'm afraid. I'm afraid of stopping anything right right. 394 00:22:24,600 --> 00:22:28,600 Speaker 4: I'm afraid to stop talking right now because what if 395 00:22:28,640 --> 00:22:29,040 Speaker 4: I die? 396 00:22:29,520 --> 00:22:30,640 Speaker 1: You know that sort of thing. 397 00:22:30,800 --> 00:22:33,359 Speaker 2: I'm just going to sit in silence for about Oh God, 398 00:22:34,160 --> 00:22:36,399 Speaker 2: it's kind you a little pelican cutting board? 399 00:22:36,760 --> 00:22:37,679 Speaker 1: Oh it is. 400 00:22:37,760 --> 00:22:41,200 Speaker 2: It's a little I bought that at a thrift store 401 00:22:41,240 --> 00:22:46,720 Speaker 2: in Utah called Deseret Industries and maybe two thousand and two. 402 00:22:47,320 --> 00:22:49,920 Speaker 2: It's just like, I don't I really love it. It's 403 00:22:49,960 --> 00:22:52,640 Speaker 2: like a piece of art of a pelican that somebody 404 00:22:52,640 --> 00:22:55,480 Speaker 2: made it. I think it's called someone signed the name 405 00:22:55,600 --> 00:22:58,760 Speaker 2: Scoota or something in the bottom corner, and I've never 406 00:22:59,160 --> 00:23:00,679 Speaker 2: known where it came from or. 407 00:23:01,119 --> 00:23:03,240 Speaker 1: What was the point for the for the listeners. 408 00:23:03,280 --> 00:23:06,000 Speaker 4: When you post this episode, will you also post a 409 00:23:06,040 --> 00:23:09,879 Speaker 4: photo of that cutting course, so that of the course 410 00:23:10,400 --> 00:23:13,800 Speaker 4: I have something to, you know, look forward to a 411 00:23:13,840 --> 00:23:15,080 Speaker 4: companion piece. 412 00:23:15,480 --> 00:23:17,959 Speaker 2: That we have to They will see that. It's like 413 00:23:18,000 --> 00:23:20,879 Speaker 2: a weird fabric. It's not a cutting board. It's like 414 00:23:20,920 --> 00:23:23,760 Speaker 2: someone painted on a piece of fabric. And I really 415 00:23:23,840 --> 00:23:28,560 Speaker 2: appreciate it. I either stole it or paid very little 416 00:23:28,560 --> 00:23:29,959 Speaker 2: for it. There was a period when I did a 417 00:23:29,960 --> 00:23:34,000 Speaker 2: decent amount of shoplifting, and but that I feel like 418 00:23:34,040 --> 00:23:34,360 Speaker 2: it was. 419 00:23:34,320 --> 00:23:36,760 Speaker 1: Too big too. What do you do to get that rush? Now? 420 00:23:37,160 --> 00:23:41,920 Speaker 2: I consider shoplifting? Oh, okay, Occasionally I'll be in a store. Yeah, yeah, 421 00:23:41,920 --> 00:23:45,120 Speaker 2: I haven't shoplifted since I was a teenager, But occasional 422 00:23:45,119 --> 00:23:47,280 Speaker 2: I'll be like, what if I just stole this right now? 423 00:23:47,520 --> 00:23:48,280 Speaker 1: Yeah? 424 00:23:48,359 --> 00:23:50,600 Speaker 2: And then I think, and then what happens when everyone 425 00:23:50,640 --> 00:23:52,879 Speaker 2: finds out that I've been arrested for shoplifting? 426 00:23:53,119 --> 00:23:58,600 Speaker 1: Right? Have you ever shoplifted? No? Have you ever been tempted? No? 427 00:23:59,240 --> 00:24:03,200 Speaker 4: I'm too aared of that. I'm even afraid of people 428 00:24:03,280 --> 00:24:07,760 Speaker 4: thinking I'm shoplifting. So if I'm like and I always 429 00:24:07,760 --> 00:24:10,520 Speaker 4: try to make my presence known at a store, if 430 00:24:10,560 --> 00:24:14,159 Speaker 4: there's a camera in the store, I like sort of 431 00:24:14,160 --> 00:24:16,960 Speaker 4: acknowledge it, and I'm very careful with how I hold 432 00:24:16,960 --> 00:24:20,160 Speaker 4: my items, like yes, I look at the camera as 433 00:24:20,160 --> 00:24:23,680 Speaker 4: if to say, yes, this toothpaste is going in this basket. 434 00:24:24,000 --> 00:24:27,080 Speaker 4: No funny business here, don't worry about me. 435 00:24:27,760 --> 00:24:29,680 Speaker 2: But that, to me feels like you're drawing even more 436 00:24:29,720 --> 00:24:33,080 Speaker 2: attention to I feel like whoever's watching the security camera 437 00:24:33,160 --> 00:24:34,880 Speaker 2: thinks they're trying to pull one over on us. 438 00:24:34,920 --> 00:24:38,160 Speaker 1: And well, maybe I don't know, you'd have to, you'd 439 00:24:38,200 --> 00:24:38,399 Speaker 1: have to. 440 00:24:39,040 --> 00:24:41,320 Speaker 4: Maybe we should well do a part two of this 441 00:24:42,240 --> 00:24:45,800 Speaker 4: interview where I go to the rite Aid on the 442 00:24:45,840 --> 00:24:50,680 Speaker 4: corner right to speak to the security guards and get 443 00:24:50,760 --> 00:24:51,240 Speaker 4: their take. 444 00:24:51,880 --> 00:24:55,000 Speaker 2: Now, there was a point, you know, I wander through 445 00:24:55,040 --> 00:24:57,280 Speaker 2: a lot of stores. I love wandering through stores and 446 00:24:57,359 --> 00:24:59,879 Speaker 2: just looking at objects with that with no intention of buying. 447 00:25:00,800 --> 00:25:02,800 Speaker 1: And there was a period that I feel like. 448 00:25:04,400 --> 00:25:06,119 Speaker 2: When I first moved to La that I would go 449 00:25:06,119 --> 00:25:09,320 Speaker 2: to a seven eleven on occasion just wander around to 450 00:25:09,440 --> 00:25:12,200 Speaker 2: just free my mind. And I think the person occasionally 451 00:25:13,080 --> 00:25:16,119 Speaker 2: or eventually thought that I was shoplifting and asked me 452 00:25:16,160 --> 00:25:19,560 Speaker 2: not to come back, which is probably just what was 453 00:25:19,560 --> 00:25:21,399 Speaker 2: happening in my life that I thought seven eleven was 454 00:25:21,440 --> 00:25:22,919 Speaker 2: a relaxing place to be. 455 00:25:23,440 --> 00:25:28,840 Speaker 4: It's you know, it's familiar. Yeah, it's got to be. 456 00:25:28,720 --> 00:25:30,440 Speaker 1: A sort of sterile comfort. 457 00:25:30,760 --> 00:25:30,960 Speaker 3: You know. 458 00:25:31,119 --> 00:25:35,640 Speaker 4: The air conditioning at a seven eleven is always exquisite, right, 459 00:25:35,720 --> 00:25:41,359 Speaker 4: freezing cold, freezing cold, freezing cold. It's like a retirement home, 460 00:25:43,080 --> 00:25:46,679 Speaker 4: you know. But I used to hang out at a 461 00:25:46,680 --> 00:25:48,640 Speaker 4: pharmacy when I was a little kid, and I got 462 00:25:48,680 --> 00:25:50,720 Speaker 4: kicked out for spending too much time there. 463 00:25:51,080 --> 00:25:54,720 Speaker 2: Really, yeah, And how old were you when this was happening. 464 00:25:54,760 --> 00:25:57,320 Speaker 4: It's like ten, and my friends and I would just 465 00:25:57,400 --> 00:26:02,680 Speaker 4: go to this pharmacy and ask people if they needed help, 466 00:26:03,560 --> 00:26:04,680 Speaker 4: like finding things. 467 00:26:05,000 --> 00:26:06,119 Speaker 1: Did you ever help anyone? 468 00:26:07,160 --> 00:26:11,120 Speaker 4: Sometimes sometimes I think people were just humoring us. And right, 469 00:26:11,560 --> 00:26:13,879 Speaker 4: we were children. We had nothing to do. It was 470 00:26:13,920 --> 00:26:19,440 Speaker 4: so boring, you know, childhood, well cole miserable. 471 00:26:19,720 --> 00:26:26,240 Speaker 2: Oh what I don't I don't know. Look, look, okay, 472 00:26:26,320 --> 00:26:28,680 Speaker 2: so obviously you're here. 473 00:26:28,840 --> 00:26:29,320 Speaker 1: I'm here. 474 00:26:29,800 --> 00:26:32,560 Speaker 2: Yes, a few weeks ago you agreed to be on 475 00:26:32,600 --> 00:26:36,920 Speaker 2: the podcast. I was so happy. Yeah, yeah, I love 476 00:26:37,000 --> 00:26:41,960 Speaker 2: Cole reluctantly. Of course I kind of dragged you into this, 477 00:26:42,600 --> 00:26:46,600 Speaker 2: and uh, all that said, it seemed like you were 478 00:26:46,640 --> 00:26:49,240 Speaker 2: at least going to play fair and just be here 479 00:26:49,280 --> 00:26:52,040 Speaker 2: as a pleasant guest. We would have a nice little 480 00:26:52,080 --> 00:26:54,560 Speaker 2: chat and then move on with our lives, hopefully never 481 00:26:54,600 --> 00:26:59,919 Speaker 2: see each other again. Yeah. And then a couple nights 482 00:27:00,040 --> 00:27:05,760 Speaker 2: to go, the doorbell rang. Yeah, I believe it was night. Wow, 483 00:27:05,960 --> 00:27:11,639 Speaker 2: believe Uh, which is frightening for any purpose. Sure, we 484 00:27:11,680 --> 00:27:15,080 Speaker 2: don't have a lot of visitors. And I opened the 485 00:27:15,080 --> 00:27:18,600 Speaker 2: door and there was a box there, large square box 486 00:27:19,000 --> 00:27:23,960 Speaker 2: addressed to me, uh return address on No, I mean, 487 00:27:24,200 --> 00:27:28,720 Speaker 2: not unknown, but from Williams Sonoma. I had not ordered 488 00:27:28,720 --> 00:27:32,080 Speaker 2: anything from Williams Sonoma. Love william Sonoma. I have never 489 00:27:32,119 --> 00:27:35,040 Speaker 2: purchased anything there because it's a little above my you know. 490 00:27:35,320 --> 00:27:38,280 Speaker 2: It's more of a going and brows and dream of 491 00:27:38,320 --> 00:27:43,320 Speaker 2: a life of the Williams Sonoma shopper, right, see the 492 00:27:43,400 --> 00:27:46,719 Speaker 2: latest novelty, that kind of thing. So I brought it 493 00:27:46,760 --> 00:27:52,960 Speaker 2: in and my mind started circling what possibilities this could have, 494 00:27:53,680 --> 00:27:55,520 Speaker 2: where this could have possibly come from, And then it 495 00:27:55,560 --> 00:28:00,840 Speaker 2: occurred to me Cole as the last person I contact with. 496 00:28:02,400 --> 00:28:08,359 Speaker 2: They've got my address, and obviously I I don't know. 497 00:28:08,520 --> 00:28:08,840 Speaker 1: I was. 498 00:28:09,000 --> 00:28:10,359 Speaker 2: I was a little broken up about it. And now 499 00:28:10,359 --> 00:28:13,399 Speaker 2: I'm just going to ask you. Okay, this podcast is 500 00:28:13,440 --> 00:28:17,920 Speaker 2: called I said no gifts, and I have to assume 501 00:28:18,119 --> 00:28:21,480 Speaker 2: I opened the box and there was a gift wrapped box. 502 00:28:24,040 --> 00:28:28,840 Speaker 1: Is this a gift for me? Yes? Okay? Should I 503 00:28:28,880 --> 00:28:30,280 Speaker 1: open it here on the podcast? 504 00:28:31,040 --> 00:28:34,919 Speaker 4: Yeah? You should open it and then I'll explain. I 505 00:28:34,960 --> 00:28:38,840 Speaker 4: know you said no gifts, and I respect that boundary. 506 00:28:38,880 --> 00:28:41,920 Speaker 4: But once once you open it, I can explain and 507 00:28:42,080 --> 00:28:43,200 Speaker 4: hopefully it'll make sense. 508 00:28:43,680 --> 00:28:46,080 Speaker 1: Okay, and you'll understand why I had to. 509 00:28:53,440 --> 00:28:56,920 Speaker 2: Okay, for the listener, this is a heavy white box, 510 00:28:57,080 --> 00:29:00,320 Speaker 2: maybe the heaviest gift on this podcast so far, I 511 00:29:00,360 --> 00:29:00,840 Speaker 2: would hope. 512 00:29:00,880 --> 00:29:06,080 Speaker 1: So you left you give gifts by weight. Yeah, oh yeah, 513 00:29:06,200 --> 00:29:08,560 Speaker 1: Let's just open it up here and see what happens. 514 00:29:08,720 --> 00:29:11,040 Speaker 1: This looks like a beautiful wedding gift if I were 515 00:29:11,080 --> 00:29:13,520 Speaker 1: ever to get married. This is how it would feel like. Right, 516 00:29:13,880 --> 00:29:16,960 Speaker 1: I think that's probably what what these things are usually. 517 00:29:17,560 --> 00:29:19,360 Speaker 1: And keep going, keep right right. 518 00:29:19,400 --> 00:29:22,000 Speaker 2: I'm not gonna I'm going to keep my eyes away 519 00:29:22,120 --> 00:29:23,120 Speaker 2: from the box. 520 00:29:23,240 --> 00:29:31,560 Speaker 1: Until completely open, kind of do a doing my best 521 00:29:31,800 --> 00:29:41,760 Speaker 1: to keep it a complete surprise. Oh my god. Yeah, 522 00:29:41,800 --> 00:29:47,120 Speaker 1: this is a beautiful waffle maker. Yeah, a vertical waffle maker, 523 00:29:47,120 --> 00:29:51,040 Speaker 1: which a vertical waffle maker I'm not even familiar with. Well, 524 00:29:51,480 --> 00:29:53,680 Speaker 1: the reason that I got it for you is because 525 00:29:53,680 --> 00:30:01,560 Speaker 1: I've been having this recurring nightmare of you making waffles 526 00:30:01,880 --> 00:30:07,200 Speaker 1: and just getting waffle batter everywhere because it's hard with 527 00:30:07,280 --> 00:30:09,719 Speaker 1: a regular waffle iron. You pour the batter on and 528 00:30:09,760 --> 00:30:13,440 Speaker 1: it usually spills over the sides. Yes, And I just 529 00:30:13,680 --> 00:30:17,920 Speaker 1: I keep waking up in a cold sweat because I'm 530 00:30:18,360 --> 00:30:23,200 Speaker 1: I just see you just waffle batter everywhere, just a disaster, 531 00:30:23,320 --> 00:30:25,560 Speaker 1: and you're cleaning it up and then the waffle's burning, 532 00:30:26,120 --> 00:30:29,640 Speaker 1: and like you know, it happened once, And I thought, oh, 533 00:30:29,680 --> 00:30:34,760 Speaker 1: that's a weird dream. Sure after six years. 534 00:30:35,800 --> 00:30:39,680 Speaker 4: Pretty consistently every night of dreaming, and I've known you 535 00:30:39,720 --> 00:30:41,240 Speaker 4: like what three right? 536 00:30:41,360 --> 00:30:43,960 Speaker 1: So yeah, and I was probably a kind of a 537 00:30:43,960 --> 00:30:45,120 Speaker 1: stranger in a dream. 538 00:30:44,920 --> 00:30:48,920 Speaker 5: Initially, Yeah, absolutely, I was like, well, that's weird. 539 00:30:48,920 --> 00:30:54,160 Speaker 4: Why would I dream about that? Just yeah, So I 540 00:30:54,360 --> 00:30:58,120 Speaker 4: found this on the Williams Norma website. It's a vertical 541 00:30:58,720 --> 00:31:02,400 Speaker 4: waffle maker. You poor the batter in on top so 542 00:31:02,440 --> 00:31:05,000 Speaker 4: that it doesn't spill out the sides. 543 00:31:05,760 --> 00:31:09,280 Speaker 1: Wow. Yeah, you can then kind of like a coin 544 00:31:09,400 --> 00:31:11,200 Speaker 1: slot almost, yes. 545 00:31:11,120 --> 00:31:16,080 Speaker 4: Exactly, and then you know, when it's done, you can 546 00:31:16,120 --> 00:31:18,200 Speaker 4: open it up and the waffle comes out. 547 00:31:18,360 --> 00:31:21,520 Speaker 1: And you do you own one of these? No? You don't. 548 00:31:22,240 --> 00:31:24,880 Speaker 2: No, it's just this dream where that's kind of just 549 00:31:24,880 --> 00:31:28,520 Speaker 2: been this image of the waffle maker for that. 550 00:31:28,480 --> 00:31:30,800 Speaker 1: Kind of thing. I would hate to own something like that. 551 00:31:30,960 --> 00:31:36,719 Speaker 1: But I thought, if I want to sleep tonight or 552 00:31:36,760 --> 00:31:39,320 Speaker 1: any night, I need to make this. I need to 553 00:31:39,360 --> 00:31:40,640 Speaker 1: fix this. Right. 554 00:31:40,720 --> 00:31:43,160 Speaker 2: It's hard to say what effect this is going to 555 00:31:43,200 --> 00:31:46,600 Speaker 2: have on your dreams moving forward, whether it will continue, 556 00:31:46,800 --> 00:31:50,320 Speaker 2: and maybe a new element will be introduced to the dream. 557 00:31:50,680 --> 00:31:53,320 Speaker 2: I mean, God knows what message I was trying to 558 00:31:53,360 --> 00:31:57,320 Speaker 2: get through to you or whoever's places dream in your. 559 00:31:57,160 --> 00:31:58,600 Speaker 1: Head, right, yeah? 560 00:31:58,720 --> 00:32:00,920 Speaker 2: I mean, were there any other elements of the dream 561 00:32:00,960 --> 00:32:04,000 Speaker 2: that you could remember? Or is it I just remember 562 00:32:04,200 --> 00:32:08,600 Speaker 2: hating you so much? And then when I met you, 563 00:32:09,280 --> 00:32:11,120 Speaker 2: I remember I hated you, and I was like, why 564 00:32:11,120 --> 00:32:13,480 Speaker 2: do I hate Why do I hate him? 565 00:32:13,960 --> 00:32:16,600 Speaker 4: We've never met before, And then I was like, oh, 566 00:32:16,760 --> 00:32:18,320 Speaker 4: it's the dream. 567 00:32:18,720 --> 00:32:20,520 Speaker 1: I hate him because of the dream. 568 00:32:20,520 --> 00:32:23,320 Speaker 4: And then eventually I sort of was able to separate 569 00:32:23,400 --> 00:32:28,360 Speaker 4: the you know, the nightmare from right, the nightmare. 570 00:32:28,880 --> 00:32:33,440 Speaker 2: Right and now reality you're just a strong dislike yes, yeah, 571 00:32:33,480 --> 00:32:35,360 Speaker 2: and the dream continues, I imagine it. 572 00:32:35,400 --> 00:32:36,520 Speaker 1: Yes, yes. 573 00:32:36,880 --> 00:32:41,360 Speaker 2: Is it an increasing hatred or just kind of a baseline, Well. 574 00:32:41,200 --> 00:32:44,479 Speaker 1: Now it's sort of comforting, you know, it's a comforting hatred. 575 00:32:44,600 --> 00:32:49,680 Speaker 1: It's toxic. It's a codependent hatred, you know. 576 00:32:50,480 --> 00:32:54,480 Speaker 2: Yeah, and that one without that hatred, I mean, you're 577 00:32:54,520 --> 00:32:56,880 Speaker 2: going to be completely off balanced. 578 00:32:56,920 --> 00:32:57,400 Speaker 1: We'll see. 579 00:32:57,520 --> 00:33:00,600 Speaker 4: I mean that's I need something to break up the 580 00:33:00,640 --> 00:33:05,920 Speaker 4: monotony of you know, this pandemic life. So maybe not 581 00:33:06,080 --> 00:33:12,000 Speaker 4: hating you could be just what I need shake things up. 582 00:33:12,920 --> 00:33:15,320 Speaker 1: Do you own the waffle maker of any type? I 583 00:33:15,400 --> 00:33:17,040 Speaker 1: don't want to like a waffle. 584 00:33:17,680 --> 00:33:22,440 Speaker 4: I love a waffle, but I would never I don't 585 00:33:22,440 --> 00:33:24,120 Speaker 4: have a lot of counter space, you know. I live 586 00:33:24,120 --> 00:33:27,000 Speaker 4: in New York, right, I already have a kitchen aid mixer, 587 00:33:27,160 --> 00:33:30,320 Speaker 4: I have a Vita mix I have a toaster, my 588 00:33:30,480 --> 00:33:33,480 Speaker 4: like crsee I have. You know, There's just there's no 589 00:33:33,560 --> 00:33:37,320 Speaker 4: counter space. There's no cabinet space, you know, right, what 590 00:33:37,360 --> 00:33:37,560 Speaker 4: are you. 591 00:33:37,600 --> 00:33:41,040 Speaker 1: Making in your kitchen aid? So far? 592 00:33:41,520 --> 00:33:47,000 Speaker 4: I have only made one batch of cookies. And when 593 00:33:47,120 --> 00:33:51,080 Speaker 4: was that? That was like two months ago? Oh okay, 594 00:33:51,120 --> 00:33:54,520 Speaker 4: so recently. This is a new question. But I bought 595 00:33:54,600 --> 00:33:57,440 Speaker 4: the kitchen Aid mixer like six months ago and I've 596 00:33:57,520 --> 00:34:02,360 Speaker 4: used it once. How was your I realized in the 597 00:34:02,600 --> 00:34:05,520 Speaker 4: for this exact cookie recipe it would have been easier 598 00:34:05,560 --> 00:34:10,200 Speaker 4: to mix my hand. Actually, it was just like a 599 00:34:10,280 --> 00:34:14,239 Speaker 4: simple chocolate chip recipe, oatmeal chocolate chip recipe, and. 600 00:34:15,360 --> 00:34:18,560 Speaker 1: There was just no need for the mixer. But I 601 00:34:18,600 --> 00:34:20,759 Speaker 1: think a mixer mikes the butter up. 602 00:34:20,800 --> 00:34:23,520 Speaker 4: Sorry, this is for the listeners who are falling asleep 603 00:34:23,840 --> 00:34:25,200 Speaker 4: their cars. 604 00:34:25,640 --> 00:34:26,840 Speaker 1: Okay, okay, okay. 605 00:34:27,320 --> 00:34:31,920 Speaker 2: The listener loves a cookie recipe discussion. Okay, who doesn't. 606 00:34:31,960 --> 00:34:35,120 Speaker 2: If somebody has a problem with that, I don't know. 607 00:34:35,200 --> 00:34:37,560 Speaker 2: I don't know what to tell anyone. 608 00:34:38,320 --> 00:34:41,080 Speaker 1: That's fair. Oh so it was a you. It felt 609 00:34:41,080 --> 00:34:43,880 Speaker 1: like overkill for you. Yeah. 610 00:34:43,960 --> 00:34:47,680 Speaker 4: I bought it originally because I wanted the like I 611 00:34:47,760 --> 00:34:53,680 Speaker 4: made merangue once and like a vegan meringue, and my 612 00:34:54,400 --> 00:34:56,319 Speaker 4: hands and arms hurt so much. 613 00:34:56,520 --> 00:34:58,520 Speaker 1: I thought, you know what I need to do. 614 00:34:59,080 --> 00:35:01,719 Speaker 4: I need to spend hundreds of dollars to make sure 615 00:35:01,719 --> 00:35:04,799 Speaker 4: I never feel this pain. In three years when I 616 00:35:04,840 --> 00:35:07,839 Speaker 4: make this thing again, but I need to spend it 617 00:35:08,040 --> 00:35:08,720 Speaker 4: right now. 618 00:35:09,000 --> 00:35:11,080 Speaker 1: Do you think you'll make vegan moraine again? 619 00:35:12,840 --> 00:35:17,600 Speaker 4: Maybe it's just not fun to make stuff for myself, 620 00:35:17,880 --> 00:35:20,400 Speaker 4: you know what I mean? Right, Like, maybe when I 621 00:35:20,440 --> 00:35:23,759 Speaker 4: can see people again. The fun of making things for 622 00:35:23,840 --> 00:35:26,040 Speaker 4: me is people being like, oh my. 623 00:35:26,080 --> 00:35:30,520 Speaker 1: God, you know, I can't believe you were able to. 624 00:35:30,840 --> 00:35:35,319 Speaker 4: Yeah, sorry, I had extra you know, I would have 625 00:35:35,360 --> 00:35:37,879 Speaker 4: made this nice for just me, but I thought, why 626 00:35:37,920 --> 00:35:38,560 Speaker 4: not bring it? 627 00:35:38,800 --> 00:35:38,960 Speaker 3: Well? 628 00:35:39,040 --> 00:35:41,480 Speaker 2: I think a kitchen aid is also just kind of 629 00:35:41,560 --> 00:35:43,759 Speaker 2: nice looking. It's just a nice thing to have on 630 00:35:43,800 --> 00:35:47,000 Speaker 2: your counter, right, Yeah, absolutely, It's a status symbol. And 631 00:35:47,040 --> 00:35:51,520 Speaker 2: I grew up, you know, poor trashy. 632 00:35:51,800 --> 00:35:56,160 Speaker 4: I say, like I was Niles Crane, like a young 633 00:35:56,280 --> 00:36:00,960 Speaker 4: Niles Crane, but in Roseanne's house, you know. 634 00:36:01,520 --> 00:36:03,760 Speaker 1: Right, that makes perfect sense. Yeah. 635 00:36:03,800 --> 00:36:08,160 Speaker 4: So I just always, you know, wanted things like a 636 00:36:08,239 --> 00:36:12,960 Speaker 4: KitchenAid mixer or to listen to NPR, right of course. 637 00:36:13,200 --> 00:36:17,239 Speaker 2: Yeah, And so I'm sorry to hear you've only used 638 00:36:17,239 --> 00:36:19,279 Speaker 2: the kitchen aid once. Do you feel like you got 639 00:36:19,440 --> 00:36:20,880 Speaker 2: it kind of burned you and you're just not going 640 00:36:20,960 --> 00:36:21,879 Speaker 2: to go back to it. 641 00:36:22,600 --> 00:36:27,160 Speaker 1: I really just hate washing things, and you know, in 642 00:36:27,160 --> 00:36:27,640 Speaker 1: New York. 643 00:36:28,000 --> 00:36:30,239 Speaker 4: Do you have a dishwasher? Do you have a dishwasher? 644 00:36:30,400 --> 00:36:32,680 Speaker 4: But you know those things aren't dishwashed. You know they're 645 00:36:32,680 --> 00:36:35,680 Speaker 4: supposed to be hand washed. You know, the bowl, the bowl, 646 00:36:35,760 --> 00:36:37,439 Speaker 4: I think so yeah, the metal book. 647 00:36:37,480 --> 00:36:40,239 Speaker 1: I don't know that I'll go through the dishwasher three 648 00:36:40,280 --> 00:36:42,640 Speaker 1: times a week. I mean, maybe it's about it. Maybe 649 00:36:42,680 --> 00:36:45,240 Speaker 1: that's why that mole is getting so much bigger. 650 00:36:45,600 --> 00:36:47,879 Speaker 2: Every time I wash it, I feel kind of a 651 00:36:47,920 --> 00:36:52,600 Speaker 2: pulse in my leg and I just the heat radiating down. 652 00:36:53,080 --> 00:36:56,279 Speaker 2: But I've just ignored it. But it's worth it. If 653 00:36:56,280 --> 00:37:00,720 Speaker 2: it saves me an extra ten minutes, I mean, turning into. 654 00:37:00,600 --> 00:37:05,080 Speaker 1: A monster, maybe I will cool. You can absolutely. 655 00:37:05,800 --> 00:37:08,600 Speaker 2: Maybe this is just the Kitchen Aid Hotline podcast at 656 00:37:08,600 --> 00:37:11,319 Speaker 2: this point, but I hope so. I mean, I can 657 00:37:11,360 --> 00:37:13,560 Speaker 2: tell you I recently had a problem. It wasn't mine 658 00:37:13,680 --> 00:37:14,600 Speaker 2: wasn't mixing correctly. 659 00:37:14,600 --> 00:37:15,920 Speaker 1: I looked it up. You have to drop a. 660 00:37:15,880 --> 00:37:19,239 Speaker 2: Dime in the bowl and mix it around, and if 661 00:37:19,280 --> 00:37:21,839 Speaker 2: the dime does it's this weird old trick that like, 662 00:37:22,040 --> 00:37:24,560 Speaker 2: if the mixer doesn't move the dime enough, it means 663 00:37:24,600 --> 00:37:27,440 Speaker 2: it's not adjusted properly. I know a lot about a 664 00:37:27,520 --> 00:37:28,360 Speaker 2: kitchen Aid mixer. 665 00:37:28,600 --> 00:37:33,280 Speaker 1: Wow, is this like some secret blog like like KitchenAid. 666 00:37:33,320 --> 00:37:36,000 Speaker 1: Queen's like like, listen, honey, we've been around, Like I 667 00:37:36,040 --> 00:37:39,360 Speaker 1: love those kinds of It's everywhere, Okay. 668 00:37:39,080 --> 00:37:41,719 Speaker 2: I think like literally, Kitchen Aid, I think like the 669 00:37:41,800 --> 00:37:44,680 Speaker 2: company line is like, well, if it's not mixing properly 670 00:37:44,719 --> 00:37:47,400 Speaker 2: put it for whatever reason. A dime is the exact 671 00:37:48,560 --> 00:37:50,480 Speaker 2: object that you need at the bottom of the bowl 672 00:37:50,520 --> 00:37:53,080 Speaker 2: to make sure it's correct. 673 00:37:53,480 --> 00:38:00,239 Speaker 4: That's nickel erase chair. That is total? Do you book 674 00:38:00,320 --> 00:38:00,799 Speaker 4: much at home? 675 00:38:01,400 --> 00:38:03,520 Speaker 1: I like to bake. I like baking. 676 00:38:05,160 --> 00:38:07,960 Speaker 4: It's prettier, you know, you get like a pretty thing 677 00:38:07,960 --> 00:38:10,280 Speaker 4: at the end. And there's too much intuition in cooking, 678 00:38:10,800 --> 00:38:13,480 Speaker 4: and I don't trust my intuition. 679 00:38:13,719 --> 00:38:14,799 Speaker 1: What do you like to bake them? 680 00:38:15,120 --> 00:38:18,239 Speaker 4: Well, I'm vegan I and so I make a lot 681 00:38:18,239 --> 00:38:21,280 Speaker 4: of just like vegan things. 682 00:38:21,480 --> 00:38:22,799 Speaker 1: And I made a. 683 00:38:24,640 --> 00:38:28,719 Speaker 4: Key lime cake with Italian meringue butter cream frosting. 684 00:38:28,960 --> 00:38:31,520 Speaker 1: Oh that sounds incredible and like a. 685 00:38:31,520 --> 00:38:35,160 Speaker 4: Gram cracker cream cheese filling. It was way too sweet. 686 00:38:35,200 --> 00:38:38,880 Speaker 4: It was too much. Oh okay, sure, Like that wasn't 687 00:38:38,920 --> 00:38:41,279 Speaker 4: the recipe at all. I just sort of imagined like, oh, 688 00:38:41,320 --> 00:38:43,280 Speaker 4: this would be I bet this would be amazing. 689 00:38:43,520 --> 00:38:46,520 Speaker 1: Did it look nice? It looked great, It looked great. 690 00:38:46,560 --> 00:38:48,920 Speaker 4: It took me two days to make it because I 691 00:38:48,960 --> 00:38:51,640 Speaker 4: had to repeat every step twice because I've you know, 692 00:38:51,960 --> 00:38:55,520 Speaker 4: messed something up every step along the way, like the 693 00:38:55,560 --> 00:39:01,840 Speaker 4: temperature of the sugar for the meringue, you know, using 694 00:39:03,960 --> 00:39:07,600 Speaker 4: the wrong amount of flower, you know that sort of thing. 695 00:39:07,880 --> 00:39:11,120 Speaker 2: Did you in high school have cooking classes or that 696 00:39:11,160 --> 00:39:11,600 Speaker 2: sort of thing? 697 00:39:11,760 --> 00:39:12,840 Speaker 1: You didn't, did you? 698 00:39:13,600 --> 00:39:16,880 Speaker 2: I took so many cooking I mean it was essentially 699 00:39:16,960 --> 00:39:19,120 Speaker 2: I think it was just a failure of the Utah 700 00:39:19,280 --> 00:39:22,320 Speaker 2: public school system that I think I took a foods 701 00:39:22,600 --> 00:39:24,840 Speaker 2: they were called foods classes. I would take one of 702 00:39:24,920 --> 00:39:28,240 Speaker 2: probably every semester and learned absolutely nothing. 703 00:39:28,480 --> 00:39:31,280 Speaker 4: Hollmeck was gone by the time I got to high school. 704 00:39:31,600 --> 00:39:34,680 Speaker 4: There was wood shop. I had to make a bird house. 705 00:39:35,640 --> 00:39:39,319 Speaker 4: But some this guy, Branden Lever, who came from a 706 00:39:39,440 --> 00:39:43,000 Speaker 4: very big Apostolic Lutheran family, made the birdhouse for me, 707 00:39:44,360 --> 00:39:47,400 Speaker 4: and that was a sexual awakening for me. 708 00:39:47,880 --> 00:39:50,120 Speaker 1: Of course. It was I was like, why do I 709 00:39:50,239 --> 00:39:52,319 Speaker 1: love that he's making my birdhouse for me? 710 00:39:53,880 --> 00:39:53,960 Speaker 3: Like? 711 00:39:54,040 --> 00:39:58,440 Speaker 1: Why do I why is my face read from this? Yeah? 712 00:39:58,880 --> 00:40:01,640 Speaker 1: Did you take other elect classes in high school? Just 713 00:40:01,680 --> 00:40:07,520 Speaker 1: like I took a children's theater class, a children's theater class. Well, 714 00:40:07,560 --> 00:40:10,120 Speaker 1: this was like in a bigger school that I transferred 715 00:40:10,120 --> 00:40:11,680 Speaker 1: to my junior year, and there. 716 00:40:11,600 --> 00:40:14,800 Speaker 4: Was like a theater class that was right before lunch 717 00:40:15,160 --> 00:40:20,960 Speaker 4: and we would take a children's story, improvise a show, 718 00:40:21,760 --> 00:40:24,640 Speaker 4: said it, and then during lunch we took the show 719 00:40:24,680 --> 00:40:25,920 Speaker 4: to different grade schools. 720 00:40:26,320 --> 00:40:28,280 Speaker 1: Oh, that's wonderful. Yeah, it's very sweet. 721 00:40:28,600 --> 00:40:32,040 Speaker 4: Yeah, I loved it. I felt like, well, we're on tour. 722 00:40:31,840 --> 00:40:34,920 Speaker 1: Now, right, And I'm sure the elementary schoolers looked at 723 00:40:34,920 --> 00:40:35,520 Speaker 1: you as a star. 724 00:40:36,560 --> 00:40:39,560 Speaker 4: I don't remember like the audience reaction. I just remember 725 00:40:39,600 --> 00:40:43,280 Speaker 4: feeling so glad, like rushing to eat my food before 726 00:40:43,320 --> 00:40:45,839 Speaker 4: class because like I had just performed, and it felt 727 00:40:45,920 --> 00:40:49,600 Speaker 4: so like God, no time to eat because we just 728 00:40:49,719 --> 00:40:53,160 Speaker 4: we just did two shows, you know what I mean? 729 00:40:53,920 --> 00:40:55,359 Speaker 4: Was there feeling put upon? 730 00:40:55,760 --> 00:40:59,600 Speaker 2: Was there like any inter class drama or anything where 731 00:41:00,120 --> 00:41:02,799 Speaker 2: someone that felt there was a star or someone wasn't 732 00:41:02,800 --> 00:41:03,439 Speaker 2: pulling their weight. 733 00:41:03,800 --> 00:41:08,920 Speaker 1: There was a murder right outside of the death. Outside 734 00:41:08,920 --> 00:41:12,360 Speaker 1: of the death. No, everyone got along. 735 00:41:12,440 --> 00:41:15,319 Speaker 4: It was like fun, And that might have been like 736 00:41:15,400 --> 00:41:19,439 Speaker 4: the best experience I've ever had in a school setting. Wow, 737 00:41:19,600 --> 00:41:25,080 Speaker 4: aside from Brandon Lever making my God bless yeah, God. 738 00:41:24,960 --> 00:41:29,280 Speaker 1: Bless him. God. I wonder where he is dead. 739 00:41:30,120 --> 00:41:33,879 Speaker 2: Do you think the murder you had kind of pulled 740 00:41:33,960 --> 00:41:37,239 Speaker 2: him into the class with promise of touring elementary schools. 741 00:41:37,360 --> 00:41:41,200 Speaker 1: I said, look, you're gonna you're gonna be huge, to 742 00:41:41,239 --> 00:41:46,880 Speaker 1: make you a star. A star. This waffle maker is wonderful. 743 00:41:46,920 --> 00:41:51,080 Speaker 1: I have a a regular one, a regular waffle maker 744 00:41:51,120 --> 00:41:54,600 Speaker 1: which I have kind of converted into just a well 745 00:41:54,640 --> 00:41:56,640 Speaker 1: it's no longer a waffle maker because I just use 746 00:41:56,680 --> 00:42:00,520 Speaker 1: it to reheat regular I'm essentially using it as panini 747 00:42:00,560 --> 00:42:03,160 Speaker 1: press or like when I left over pizza or whatever, 748 00:42:03,680 --> 00:42:05,880 Speaker 1: I throw it in there, which I can't recommend. 749 00:42:05,600 --> 00:42:09,200 Speaker 2: Enough into a waffle iron. It's fantastic. It's the only 750 00:42:09,239 --> 00:42:12,560 Speaker 2: way I'll ever reheat, at least pizza. You basically fold 751 00:42:12,600 --> 00:42:14,640 Speaker 2: it into a sandwich and burn it. 752 00:42:15,320 --> 00:42:18,319 Speaker 5: You do you do you have a toaster oven. I 753 00:42:18,320 --> 00:42:20,480 Speaker 5: don't have a toaster oven. Okay, yeah, neither do I. 754 00:42:20,560 --> 00:42:23,040 Speaker 5: But if I did, that's how I would reheat pizza. 755 00:42:23,400 --> 00:42:25,320 Speaker 5: So it doesn't not As. 756 00:42:25,200 --> 00:42:30,000 Speaker 4: For anyone who was wondering, maybe tease that at the 757 00:42:30,000 --> 00:42:33,320 Speaker 4: top of the episode, when you're like hear what Cole's 758 00:42:33,640 --> 00:42:36,120 Speaker 4: preferred method of reheating pizza is. 759 00:42:37,480 --> 00:42:40,479 Speaker 1: After the break, After the break, we finally get to cold. 760 00:42:40,880 --> 00:42:45,640 Speaker 2: Yeah, I know my current waffle iron is not just 761 00:42:45,640 --> 00:42:49,320 Speaker 2: full of pizza grease most of the time. I guess 762 00:42:49,480 --> 00:42:51,239 Speaker 2: I washed that in the sink. I don't know that 763 00:42:51,239 --> 00:42:53,880 Speaker 2: you're even supposed to wash a waffle maker. 764 00:42:54,400 --> 00:42:57,120 Speaker 1: I think you probably should, right, but. 765 00:42:57,120 --> 00:42:59,720 Speaker 2: It feels like, you know, kind of an electronic device 766 00:42:59,719 --> 00:43:02,319 Speaker 2: that I dropping the sink and suddenly I'm splashing water 767 00:43:02,400 --> 00:43:04,120 Speaker 2: all over it, and how do you dry it out? 768 00:43:04,200 --> 00:43:08,200 Speaker 1: This kind of like how to clean a cast iron skillet? Right? 769 00:43:08,280 --> 00:43:11,120 Speaker 1: Do you have a cast iron skillet? I do? But 770 00:43:11,200 --> 00:43:12,720 Speaker 1: do you use it? 771 00:43:12,840 --> 00:43:17,000 Speaker 4: I don't because I'm so anal about the cleaning of it, 772 00:43:17,520 --> 00:43:21,320 Speaker 4: like re seasoning it. And it's like, why bother making 773 00:43:21,360 --> 00:43:24,040 Speaker 4: something in it if it's going to take me four 774 00:43:24,080 --> 00:43:27,480 Speaker 4: hours afterwards to you know, re season it and make 775 00:43:27,520 --> 00:43:29,680 Speaker 4: sure it has that gorgeous sheen on top. 776 00:43:30,160 --> 00:43:33,400 Speaker 1: Have you ever made anything in it? My boyfriend made 777 00:43:34,239 --> 00:43:35,640 Speaker 1: pancakes in it once. 778 00:43:37,040 --> 00:43:39,400 Speaker 4: And then I passed it aggressively, was like, well, no, 779 00:43:39,520 --> 00:43:42,200 Speaker 4: I have to clean it. 780 00:43:42,440 --> 00:43:42,640 Speaker 3: You know. 781 00:43:42,800 --> 00:43:47,080 Speaker 2: Those to me, just the like getting into it, it 782 00:43:47,120 --> 00:43:50,000 Speaker 2: seems like a giant challenge, the seasoning all of this. 783 00:43:50,160 --> 00:43:52,920 Speaker 1: It doesn't. I don't know that that's for me. It 784 00:43:52,960 --> 00:43:55,720 Speaker 1: feels like a full lifestyle. You have to accept. 785 00:43:55,640 --> 00:44:01,920 Speaker 4: It's a religion. Ultimately, it's a religion. Ultimately it's for 786 00:44:02,000 --> 00:44:04,279 Speaker 4: people who need God and. 787 00:44:04,239 --> 00:44:07,320 Speaker 2: Then they find them and they find Yeah. 788 00:44:07,360 --> 00:44:07,600 Speaker 1: Cool. 789 00:44:07,640 --> 00:44:09,839 Speaker 2: I feel like it's time to play a game. Okay, 790 00:44:09,840 --> 00:44:12,920 Speaker 2: do you want to play a game called Tic tac toe? 791 00:44:13,400 --> 00:44:17,400 Speaker 2: Or we could do a crossword puzzle or word search. 792 00:44:17,440 --> 00:44:19,479 Speaker 2: I'll just hold it up to the zoom and we'll 793 00:44:19,520 --> 00:44:24,640 Speaker 2: just quietly say what I see right. No, do you 794 00:44:24,680 --> 00:44:26,960 Speaker 2: want to play a game called gift Master or gift 795 00:44:27,040 --> 00:44:27,520 Speaker 2: or a Curse. 796 00:44:28,840 --> 00:44:29,840 Speaker 1: I'll play gift Master. 797 00:44:30,280 --> 00:44:33,960 Speaker 2: Okay, I need a number between one and ten seven. Okay, 798 00:44:34,440 --> 00:44:37,040 Speaker 2: for a minute, I have to do some calculating. So 799 00:44:37,239 --> 00:44:39,920 Speaker 2: you're going to have the microphone. You can promote something, 800 00:44:39,960 --> 00:44:42,560 Speaker 2: you can recommend something, you can do whatever you want. 801 00:44:42,600 --> 00:44:44,359 Speaker 2: I don't care. I'll be right back. 802 00:44:45,360 --> 00:44:47,960 Speaker 1: Hello. Do you want to make more money? 803 00:44:48,320 --> 00:44:48,600 Speaker 3: Sure? 804 00:44:48,960 --> 00:44:51,799 Speaker 1: We all do. Do you guys remember that commercial with 805 00:44:51,920 --> 00:44:56,400 Speaker 1: Sally Struthers. I'm going to do some free association here 806 00:44:56,640 --> 00:45:02,359 Speaker 1: on Norman Lear. There were a lot of shows when 807 00:45:02,360 --> 00:45:06,399 Speaker 1: I was a child, especially Norman Lear shows that had 808 00:45:06,400 --> 00:45:10,640 Speaker 1: a sort of orange yellowy brown. I think because they 809 00:45:10,640 --> 00:45:13,960 Speaker 1: were shot on film, but they really I really didn't 810 00:45:14,040 --> 00:45:17,840 Speaker 1: like them. Watching them, I could smell cigarette smoke and 811 00:45:18,080 --> 00:45:22,239 Speaker 1: I really, I just I didn't like it. This is 812 00:45:22,280 --> 00:45:24,440 Speaker 1: the same reason I didn't like Roseanne. It was like, 813 00:45:24,600 --> 00:45:26,319 Speaker 1: this is my life, Why do I want to see 814 00:45:26,320 --> 00:45:29,880 Speaker 1: this reflected back at me. I was much more into, 815 00:45:30,160 --> 00:45:34,759 Speaker 1: you know, something aspirational like Sybil, which apparently and I 816 00:45:34,880 --> 00:45:39,000 Speaker 1: don't know if Sybil Shepherd or Christine Baranski will ever 817 00:45:39,040 --> 00:45:43,600 Speaker 1: be guests on this podcast, but apparently they did not 818 00:45:44,120 --> 00:45:48,080 Speaker 1: get along at all. 819 00:45:46,920 --> 00:45:49,640 Speaker 4: And that is hard for me because I would like 820 00:45:49,680 --> 00:45:51,760 Speaker 4: to imagine that they were friends. 821 00:45:53,800 --> 00:45:56,360 Speaker 2: Oh are we kind of I kind of want you 822 00:45:56,440 --> 00:45:59,640 Speaker 2: to just continue talking for a while. No, No, I 823 00:45:59,640 --> 00:46:02,120 Speaker 2: think I think I'm done. I think I've said what 824 00:46:02,160 --> 00:46:06,160 Speaker 2: I needed to say, half heard whatever was happening, and 825 00:46:05,640 --> 00:46:08,600 Speaker 2: I support everything you were saying. 826 00:46:08,840 --> 00:46:09,520 Speaker 1: Great, thank you. 827 00:46:09,880 --> 00:46:12,239 Speaker 2: Sybil Shepherd is becoming kind of a recurring theme on 828 00:46:12,280 --> 00:46:16,360 Speaker 2: this podcast because I made that Shepherd mouse pad, or 829 00:46:16,400 --> 00:46:21,479 Speaker 2: I did, and she sent it to me, and that's 830 00:46:21,560 --> 00:46:22,359 Speaker 2: neither here nor there. 831 00:46:22,360 --> 00:46:24,040 Speaker 1: We need to play the game okay. 832 00:46:24,160 --> 00:46:27,200 Speaker 2: But also just excellent use of that time. This is 833 00:46:27,239 --> 00:46:30,240 Speaker 2: how this game works. I'm going to tell you three 834 00:46:30,360 --> 00:46:32,880 Speaker 2: potential gifts things you're going to give to people, and 835 00:46:32,920 --> 00:46:36,560 Speaker 2: then three celebrities or famous people, and you're going to 836 00:46:36,600 --> 00:46:38,839 Speaker 2: tell me which gift you'll give which person and why 837 00:46:38,880 --> 00:46:39,840 Speaker 2: does that make any sense? 838 00:46:40,040 --> 00:46:43,560 Speaker 1: Yes? Okay? Perfect? These are the three gifts that you'll 839 00:46:43,600 --> 00:46:44,800 Speaker 1: be giving. Okay. 840 00:46:45,160 --> 00:46:49,880 Speaker 2: Number one is a trip to White Sands National Monument. 841 00:46:50,080 --> 00:46:52,720 Speaker 2: Now I believe it's New Mexico. 842 00:46:53,360 --> 00:46:53,719 Speaker 1: Mm hmm. 843 00:46:54,360 --> 00:46:57,840 Speaker 2: It came across my desk because I feel like a 844 00:46:57,880 --> 00:47:00,000 Speaker 2: lot of people post about it on Instagram's you know, 845 00:47:00,200 --> 00:47:04,719 Speaker 2: sand Dune's White Sand Picturesque. That's what you're dealing with there. 846 00:47:05,760 --> 00:47:11,240 Speaker 2: Number two is homemade fudge. Homemade fudge like that I made, yes, okay, 847 00:47:12,040 --> 00:47:15,600 Speaker 2: And finally, guitar lessons. Those are the three gifts can 848 00:47:15,600 --> 00:47:16,399 Speaker 2: you'll be giving two? 849 00:47:17,200 --> 00:47:18,239 Speaker 1: Let me find them. 850 00:47:18,280 --> 00:47:21,880 Speaker 2: I'm getting slightly better at this. Sometimes I struggle, sometimes 851 00:47:21,920 --> 00:47:25,480 Speaker 2: I nail it, okay. Number one this is two people. 852 00:47:25,560 --> 00:47:27,759 Speaker 2: This is Derek and Julianne Huff. 853 00:47:28,280 --> 00:47:28,560 Speaker 1: Okay. 854 00:47:28,719 --> 00:47:31,600 Speaker 2: They're the brothers sister team on Dancing with the Stars. 855 00:47:32,719 --> 00:47:38,080 Speaker 2: Number two is celebrity chef Bobby Flay and number three 856 00:47:38,120 --> 00:47:41,040 Speaker 2: this I don't know how many people. This is the 857 00:47:41,120 --> 00:47:46,040 Speaker 2: Sackler family now, right, kind of the family behind the 858 00:47:46,560 --> 00:47:55,359 Speaker 2: opioid crisis. Yes, of the I believe Purdue Pharmaceutical. Yeah, well, okay, yes, 859 00:47:55,520 --> 00:47:59,160 Speaker 2: so go ahead immediately, I'm poisoning that fudge and giving 860 00:47:59,160 --> 00:48:00,200 Speaker 2: it to the Sackler. 861 00:48:01,440 --> 00:48:04,560 Speaker 1: It's coming from my heart. That's lazier focused, I love. 862 00:48:04,719 --> 00:48:04,919 Speaker 3: Yeah. 863 00:48:06,200 --> 00:48:09,279 Speaker 4: Oh, poisoning them, by the way, with an overdose of 864 00:48:09,360 --> 00:48:16,520 Speaker 4: the opioids that they produce or finance. Okay, so we 865 00:48:16,600 --> 00:48:24,920 Speaker 4: have Bobby Flay. Hmm, okay. The last thing I want 866 00:48:25,480 --> 00:48:30,799 Speaker 4: is either of them playing like Derek and Juliana. I 867 00:48:30,880 --> 00:48:35,160 Speaker 4: don't want them. I feel like the Juliana maybe play 868 00:48:35,440 --> 00:48:41,120 Speaker 4: is Julianna or Juliana Julianne Julianne Juliana makes more sense. Yeah, 869 00:48:41,239 --> 00:48:44,000 Speaker 4: it does, but I'm not I'll talk to her about 870 00:48:44,040 --> 00:48:44,719 Speaker 4: it afterwards. 871 00:48:45,280 --> 00:48:51,759 Speaker 1: For now, get on the phone. Oh yeah, Julianne, I 872 00:48:51,760 --> 00:48:56,920 Speaker 1: feel like already plays the guitar. Oh, that sounds right, interesting, 873 00:48:57,440 --> 00:48:59,120 Speaker 1: So maybe I would give her. 874 00:48:59,520 --> 00:49:01,600 Speaker 4: I would give them the guitar lessons as a sort 875 00:49:01,640 --> 00:49:07,440 Speaker 4: of passive aggressive way of saying, like, keep trying babe, 876 00:49:08,200 --> 00:49:14,560 Speaker 4: and then Bobby Flay sort of seems a little like, uh, 877 00:49:14,600 --> 00:49:17,000 Speaker 4: what are the humors? I learned about this in the 878 00:49:17,040 --> 00:49:22,520 Speaker 4: plague lecture, Like there's like yellow like bile, and then 879 00:49:22,560 --> 00:49:26,360 Speaker 4: there's like he's whichever one is like cold and flemy 880 00:49:26,840 --> 00:49:30,920 Speaker 4: and probably needs to be in like an arid climate 881 00:49:31,280 --> 00:49:34,000 Speaker 4: for his health kind of like write out almost. 882 00:49:33,880 --> 00:49:37,399 Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, so I would. I would send him there. 883 00:49:38,600 --> 00:49:42,359 Speaker 2: I think that's an excellent I mean, if you, If 884 00:49:42,800 --> 00:49:45,360 Speaker 2: not you, someone should be sending that poison fudge to 885 00:49:45,400 --> 00:49:46,840 Speaker 2: the same I hope. 886 00:49:46,880 --> 00:49:49,880 Speaker 1: So somebody's got to get them. I hope it's Julian Huff. 887 00:49:50,040 --> 00:49:53,200 Speaker 1: I hope she sends you. Hope. I hope she sends 888 00:49:53,280 --> 00:49:56,360 Speaker 1: poison fudge to the Sackler family. I would if I 889 00:49:56,440 --> 00:49:57,000 Speaker 1: woke up to. 890 00:49:56,960 --> 00:50:00,560 Speaker 4: That headline tomorrow, I would kill myself because of get 891 00:50:00,560 --> 00:50:01,560 Speaker 4: any better than there. 892 00:50:01,520 --> 00:50:06,200 Speaker 1: Was absolutely nothing better than that Juliane becoming an unexpected 893 00:50:06,280 --> 00:50:07,280 Speaker 1: kind of hero. 894 00:50:07,880 --> 00:50:12,120 Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, kind of on this mission of revenge on 895 00:50:12,200 --> 00:50:16,840 Speaker 2: behalf of America, of the world of the world. Yeah, 896 00:50:16,880 --> 00:50:19,760 Speaker 2: well that's wonderful. Do you give Do you like giving gifts? 897 00:50:19,960 --> 00:50:24,239 Speaker 4: I do like giving gifts. Yeah, you know what I do? 898 00:50:24,239 --> 00:50:28,160 Speaker 5: You know that finally, Yeah, fuck you, I like I 899 00:50:28,239 --> 00:50:29,120 Speaker 5: like giving gifts. 900 00:50:30,480 --> 00:50:35,520 Speaker 1: I don't care what you think. Yeah, I do like it. 901 00:50:35,640 --> 00:50:38,360 Speaker 2: Do you give unexpected gifts or just on occasions? 902 00:50:40,760 --> 00:50:41,640 Speaker 1: I'm trying. 903 00:50:41,719 --> 00:50:45,279 Speaker 4: You know who's the best gift giver is Amy Sedaris, 904 00:50:45,640 --> 00:50:50,920 Speaker 4: and she gives like gifts at random times. If she 905 00:50:51,080 --> 00:50:55,120 Speaker 4: sees something that makes her think of you, right, she'll 906 00:50:55,160 --> 00:50:59,319 Speaker 4: send people things. And I really like that, and so 907 00:50:59,400 --> 00:51:02,200 Speaker 4: I've tried too, or it sort of inspired me. 908 00:51:02,239 --> 00:51:04,840 Speaker 1: To just keep my eye out for things, like. 909 00:51:05,640 --> 00:51:08,120 Speaker 2: Just to be thinking of other people while you're out 910 00:51:08,160 --> 00:51:08,720 Speaker 2: in the world. 911 00:51:09,160 --> 00:51:15,040 Speaker 4: But I still mostly just give gifts for you know, housewarming, right, 912 00:51:15,520 --> 00:51:16,760 Speaker 4: you know, birthdays. 913 00:51:17,200 --> 00:51:20,560 Speaker 1: I love bringing toilet paper. Is that true? Yeah? Because 914 00:51:20,600 --> 00:51:21,640 Speaker 1: who doesn't need it? 915 00:51:21,840 --> 00:51:22,040 Speaker 3: You know? 916 00:51:22,200 --> 00:51:25,200 Speaker 2: Right, It's just a thing. It's very practical. Yeah, we'll 917 00:51:25,239 --> 00:51:28,359 Speaker 2: always be used. Is there have you given any type 918 00:51:28,360 --> 00:51:29,960 Speaker 2: of gift that you've been particularly proud of? 919 00:51:30,440 --> 00:51:30,960 Speaker 1: Oh? 920 00:51:30,960 --> 00:51:35,520 Speaker 4: Well, the best gift was I got a Toto washlet 921 00:51:35,560 --> 00:51:38,560 Speaker 4: you know, like those little bidet toilet seats. Oh sure, 922 00:51:39,719 --> 00:51:43,400 Speaker 4: that are like heated to my mother for Christmas, and 923 00:51:43,600 --> 00:51:44,320 Speaker 4: that's wonderful. 924 00:51:44,400 --> 00:51:47,359 Speaker 1: Did she like it? She used to ray. 925 00:51:47,520 --> 00:51:51,399 Speaker 4: My aunt had one, and she would just always rave 926 00:51:51,440 --> 00:51:54,640 Speaker 4: about it, Like for ten years she would talk about like, 927 00:51:55,080 --> 00:51:58,160 Speaker 4: oh my god, that toilet seat, and so I finally 928 00:51:58,160 --> 00:52:00,640 Speaker 4: got I got it for her, and I don't think 929 00:52:00,840 --> 00:52:03,480 Speaker 4: I can ever top that, at least to her. 930 00:52:03,719 --> 00:52:07,759 Speaker 2: Yeah, and has Amy Sidaria's given you anything good? I mean, 931 00:52:07,800 --> 00:52:09,440 Speaker 2: like what anything exciting? 932 00:52:10,120 --> 00:52:14,760 Speaker 4: She gave me a portrait of me as chassis painted 933 00:52:14,760 --> 00:52:16,840 Speaker 4: by David's husband Hugh Hamrick. 934 00:52:17,000 --> 00:52:19,080 Speaker 1: Oh my god, that's incredible. Yeah. 935 00:52:19,200 --> 00:52:27,560 Speaker 4: She gave me this letter that Joan Crawford sent to someone. Yeah, 936 00:52:27,640 --> 00:52:31,280 Speaker 4: she just sends me thus are beautiful gifts. Yeah, yeah, 937 00:52:31,560 --> 00:52:34,680 Speaker 4: sends me acep soaps and lotions lovely. 938 00:52:35,120 --> 00:52:35,520 Speaker 1: Yeah. 939 00:52:36,120 --> 00:52:38,080 Speaker 2: I mean, listener, if you haven't seen At Home with 940 00:52:38,280 --> 00:52:40,640 Speaker 2: Amy Sidaris, obviously, Amy Sidaris. 941 00:52:40,239 --> 00:52:44,279 Speaker 1: Is very funny and a bit cold. It's also extraordinary. Thanks. 942 00:52:44,800 --> 00:52:47,239 Speaker 2: You didn't use your time to promote anything. I'm not 943 00:52:47,560 --> 00:52:50,880 Speaker 2: anything to promote pp matter. That's another thing, another thing 944 00:52:50,920 --> 00:52:52,880 Speaker 2: people should look up years ago. 945 00:52:53,160 --> 00:52:57,239 Speaker 1: Thanks? Thanks? Is that years? That feels recent? Two three? 946 00:52:57,560 --> 00:52:59,480 Speaker 1: I don't know nothing matters anymore. 947 00:52:59,480 --> 00:52:59,920 Speaker 3: I don't know. 948 00:53:00,560 --> 00:53:03,160 Speaker 2: Okay, we played the game and then we got into 949 00:53:03,200 --> 00:53:05,760 Speaker 2: another thing. We have to answer a listener question. Yes, 950 00:53:06,320 --> 00:53:09,759 Speaker 2: this is called I said no emails people are writing 951 00:53:09,800 --> 00:53:11,920 Speaker 2: into I said no gifts at gmail dot com. They 952 00:53:11,920 --> 00:53:15,200 Speaker 2: have just various issues. Let's see if we can answer 953 00:53:15,320 --> 00:53:20,520 Speaker 2: something here one moment. Okay, this says, Hello Bridger and 954 00:53:21,400 --> 00:53:24,760 Speaker 2: insightful guest. I'm in the process of purchasing my first 955 00:53:24,760 --> 00:53:28,879 Speaker 2: home and my parents are graciously loaning me a part 956 00:53:28,920 --> 00:53:32,440 Speaker 2: of my down payment. This is a true loan plus 957 00:53:32,520 --> 00:53:35,160 Speaker 2: interest that I will be paying them back for in full. 958 00:53:35,600 --> 00:53:37,560 Speaker 2: I'd like to get them something that says thank you 959 00:53:37,600 --> 00:53:42,080 Speaker 2: without spending too much because they are loaning me the money. 960 00:53:42,120 --> 00:53:45,640 Speaker 2: After all. My parents are semi retired, have three small 961 00:53:45,680 --> 00:53:49,000 Speaker 2: rescue dogs, a cat, and a chicken. They mostly hang 962 00:53:49,040 --> 00:53:52,200 Speaker 2: out of their suburban home, don't drink much, and prefer 963 00:53:52,239 --> 00:53:54,640 Speaker 2: to be working in the yard when it's warm outside 964 00:53:54,640 --> 00:53:57,880 Speaker 2: with all the animals. Can you give me some ideas 965 00:53:57,880 --> 00:54:01,080 Speaker 2: for an appreciation gift that are one easy on the 966 00:54:01,120 --> 00:54:06,080 Speaker 2: wallet and two aren't tacky or overplayed? And thanks? Ashley 967 00:54:06,200 --> 00:54:10,600 Speaker 2: in Dallas. Okay, So Ashley's parents are, as far as 968 00:54:10,640 --> 00:54:16,640 Speaker 2: I can tell, predatory lenders. I don't it seems like 969 00:54:16,880 --> 00:54:20,279 Speaker 2: someone has just found herself. She's tangled up in something 970 00:54:20,360 --> 00:54:23,959 Speaker 2: that's going to only become worse. Yeah, and she wants 971 00:54:23,960 --> 00:54:24,760 Speaker 2: to give them a gift. 972 00:54:25,960 --> 00:54:29,319 Speaker 4: This is like PhD level gift giving because it's like, 973 00:54:30,560 --> 00:54:33,520 Speaker 4: what do you get for someone who's loaning you money? 974 00:54:33,640 --> 00:54:36,960 Speaker 4: That's because you know, you get something too expensive. It's 975 00:54:37,000 --> 00:54:38,480 Speaker 4: like what do you do? 976 00:54:38,719 --> 00:54:41,840 Speaker 1: Like, right, that money could be going towards the Yeah. 977 00:54:41,920 --> 00:54:50,239 Speaker 4: Yeah, so but I understand, you know, wanting to a 978 00:54:50,360 --> 00:54:52,560 Speaker 4: gesture a gesture. 979 00:54:53,120 --> 00:54:57,759 Speaker 2: Right, what we're looking at here, and then also we're 980 00:54:57,760 --> 00:55:01,279 Speaker 2: getting details like there's a chicken, which I don't know that. 981 00:55:02,640 --> 00:55:05,160 Speaker 2: You know, it's the complication here is what do you 982 00:55:05,200 --> 00:55:05,960 Speaker 2: get your banker. 983 00:55:06,480 --> 00:55:08,880 Speaker 1: I don't. I'm not in the habit of giving my 984 00:55:08,920 --> 00:55:10,440 Speaker 1: banker a gift, right. 985 00:55:11,640 --> 00:55:16,279 Speaker 2: But mom and dad have apparently some level of money yea. 986 00:55:16,360 --> 00:55:20,200 Speaker 2: And but look, she's moving into a house. This is 987 00:55:20,239 --> 00:55:22,960 Speaker 2: what I think is. It's making a nice dinner and 988 00:55:23,040 --> 00:55:25,319 Speaker 2: having them over, kind of like kids made dinner and 989 00:55:27,200 --> 00:55:28,080 Speaker 2: mom and dad are going to. 990 00:55:28,120 --> 00:55:30,520 Speaker 4: Have I was going to say, it sounds like, you know, 991 00:55:30,800 --> 00:55:32,959 Speaker 4: maybe I don't know what the travel situation is. Maybe 992 00:55:33,000 --> 00:55:35,360 Speaker 4: this house is somewhere on the other side of the country. 993 00:55:35,400 --> 00:55:38,319 Speaker 4: They're like, we don't want to travel, right, you know, 994 00:55:40,239 --> 00:55:43,120 Speaker 4: maybe they're not you know, maybe they're anti vaxers. Who 995 00:55:43,200 --> 00:55:45,799 Speaker 4: don't you know she didn't include any of that information. 996 00:55:46,800 --> 00:55:51,680 Speaker 4: I wish, I wish she had. Please respond and Bridger 997 00:55:51,960 --> 00:55:55,320 Speaker 4: will update the audience accordingly. I'm kidding he never will. 998 00:55:56,480 --> 00:56:02,279 Speaker 4: But I think, honestly, you just have to, like you 999 00:56:02,360 --> 00:56:05,919 Speaker 4: have to. It has to be something that you make, 1000 00:56:06,640 --> 00:56:09,560 Speaker 4: I think, honestly, a thank you card, like a like 1001 00:56:09,600 --> 00:56:13,600 Speaker 4: a letter, like a like an actually thoughtful letter, an 1002 00:56:13,640 --> 00:56:18,240 Speaker 4: actually thoughtful letter with some details about their relationship. 1003 00:56:18,520 --> 00:56:22,640 Speaker 2: Yes, yes, it's nice. I mean, unless she's a terrible writer. 1004 00:56:22,840 --> 00:56:25,680 Speaker 4: A framed photograph of her in front of the house 1005 00:56:26,280 --> 00:56:29,520 Speaker 4: not bad, yeah. 1006 00:56:28,680 --> 00:56:32,680 Speaker 1: Or maybe like a actually I don't know, sen some 1007 00:56:33,520 --> 00:56:37,320 Speaker 1: dog treats or something, some corn kernels for the chickens. 1008 00:56:37,360 --> 00:56:40,600 Speaker 1: So what you do is you chicken feed a photo 1009 00:56:40,600 --> 00:56:42,399 Speaker 1: of you in front of the house in a nice 1010 00:56:42,440 --> 00:56:45,319 Speaker 1: thank you card, and then if you can fit a 1011 00:56:45,400 --> 00:56:48,719 Speaker 1: dog one of the little flat little milkbone treats in 1012 00:56:48,800 --> 00:56:53,400 Speaker 1: the envelope, as well as some corn dried corn for 1013 00:56:53,440 --> 00:56:54,440 Speaker 1: the chicken, they. 1014 00:56:54,360 --> 00:56:58,319 Speaker 2: Just end up with a dusty letter, which I'll appreciate it. 1015 00:56:58,320 --> 00:57:01,960 Speaker 2: I'll have kind of a homie fee A great yeah. 1016 00:57:02,080 --> 00:57:06,280 Speaker 2: I mean I don't see any that's neither techy nor overplayed. Yeah, 1017 00:57:06,600 --> 00:57:09,040 Speaker 2: and mom and dad are also going to be getting 1018 00:57:09,040 --> 00:57:13,000 Speaker 2: a monthly mortgage payment, yes, which maybe there's just a 1019 00:57:13,000 --> 00:57:14,920 Speaker 2: thoughtful note every time you pay them. 1020 00:57:15,200 --> 00:57:18,760 Speaker 1: Yeah, Like hope you're enjoying this interest. I hope you're 1021 00:57:18,840 --> 00:57:21,880 Speaker 1: enjoying making money off of me as I fall further 1022 00:57:21,920 --> 00:57:24,840 Speaker 1: and further into debt, just. 1023 00:57:24,920 --> 00:57:29,000 Speaker 4: Alone on the down payment though, so well, I don't know, 1024 00:57:29,360 --> 00:57:33,360 Speaker 4: but honestly, like just a photo of you, like so 1025 00:57:33,600 --> 00:57:36,080 Speaker 4: happy in front of the house. Yeah, I think that's 1026 00:57:36,120 --> 00:57:39,560 Speaker 4: like perfectly look at how happy I am because of 1027 00:57:39,800 --> 00:57:43,600 Speaker 4: something you did, and then maybe they'll lower the interest 1028 00:57:43,640 --> 00:57:43,960 Speaker 4: for you. 1029 00:57:46,320 --> 00:57:48,600 Speaker 1: Yeah. I think that that's all perfectly nice. 1030 00:57:48,720 --> 00:57:52,560 Speaker 4: Amy had this chapter in her book about entertaining, like 1031 00:57:52,600 --> 00:57:55,840 Speaker 4: if you have a rich uncle over you, try to 1032 00:57:55,920 --> 00:57:59,360 Speaker 4: like present very poor so that he'll maybe give you 1033 00:57:59,360 --> 00:58:02,560 Speaker 4: more money. Like a photograph in front of the house. 1034 00:58:02,640 --> 00:58:06,560 Speaker 4: Maybe make it make the house look sort of dingy. 1035 00:58:06,680 --> 00:58:08,880 Speaker 5: Put a tarpa on the window that are sort of 1036 00:58:08,960 --> 00:58:13,440 Speaker 5: falling apart, you know, maybe get the photo in the 1037 00:58:13,520 --> 00:58:17,000 Speaker 5: rain without like a rain jacket or something like thank 1038 00:58:17,040 --> 00:58:20,760 Speaker 5: you so much, like just really dust you know, like 1039 00:58:21,640 --> 00:58:24,800 Speaker 5: get the envelope dirty, as if maybe you found it 1040 00:58:25,360 --> 00:58:25,560 Speaker 5: you know. 1041 00:58:26,000 --> 00:58:30,480 Speaker 2: Yeah, I think that's great. Maybe try to send it 1042 00:58:30,520 --> 00:58:33,920 Speaker 2: without a stamp so it's a first returned there's no 1043 00:58:34,040 --> 00:58:37,800 Speaker 2: money for even for postage at this point, and cover. 1044 00:58:37,600 --> 00:58:42,280 Speaker 1: It in two cent stamps. Yeah, yeah, I. 1045 00:58:42,200 --> 00:58:46,200 Speaker 2: Think that's wonderful. That question is could not be more 1046 00:58:46,280 --> 00:58:47,680 Speaker 2: comprehensively answered. 1047 00:58:48,480 --> 00:58:51,000 Speaker 1: Can we answer one more? Do you mind? I would 1048 00:58:51,040 --> 00:58:56,040 Speaker 1: love to something hopefully a little easier. Yeah, maybe not. 1049 00:58:56,720 --> 00:58:58,560 Speaker 2: I mean we're just going to go to the next 1050 00:58:58,600 --> 00:59:02,280 Speaker 2: thing here. Okay, this is hybridger and guest. My name 1051 00:59:02,320 --> 00:59:05,320 Speaker 2: is Bobby, and I need gift advice for my boyfriend's parents. 1052 00:59:05,560 --> 00:59:08,640 Speaker 2: We've been together for five years and he has five siblings. Okay, 1053 00:59:09,320 --> 00:59:11,960 Speaker 2: he and his siblings go in together on the gifts 1054 00:59:11,960 --> 00:59:14,480 Speaker 2: for every holiday and do not include me in their 1055 00:59:14,480 --> 00:59:17,720 Speaker 2: big presence. Well, this is feeling weird. Let's see. So 1056 00:59:17,840 --> 00:59:19,800 Speaker 2: I am on my own to buy a Mother's Day, 1057 00:59:19,800 --> 00:59:23,200 Speaker 2: Father's Day, Birthdays, Christmas. I ran up out of ideas 1058 00:59:23,240 --> 00:59:26,080 Speaker 2: about three years ago and they have since just been 1059 00:59:26,120 --> 00:59:28,680 Speaker 2: getting boo I've been getting booze and restaurant gift cards 1060 00:59:28,680 --> 00:59:31,640 Speaker 2: every holiday. It's getting embarrassing. These people are in their 1061 00:59:31,680 --> 00:59:35,000 Speaker 2: early fifties, have a lake house and they ride motorcycles. 1062 00:59:35,040 --> 00:59:37,240 Speaker 2: Please help. And it doesn't look like there's a name there. 1063 00:59:37,280 --> 00:59:41,040 Speaker 2: That's probably my mistake, probably copying pasting. But this is 1064 00:59:41,080 --> 00:59:45,320 Speaker 2: now an unknown person. Bobby, Oh, Bobby is at the beginning. 1065 00:59:45,480 --> 00:59:47,920 Speaker 2: This is a reading reading comprehension problem. 1066 00:59:48,320 --> 00:59:48,920 Speaker 1: I knew it. 1067 00:59:49,640 --> 00:59:52,760 Speaker 4: How many eggs are there still in the basket? If 1068 00:59:52,840 --> 00:59:58,720 Speaker 4: Robby has given way hold on? What do you get 1069 00:59:58,760 --> 01:00:00,560 Speaker 4: for your d are you? 1070 01:00:01,320 --> 01:00:01,880 Speaker 1: I don't get. 1071 01:00:01,760 --> 01:00:04,440 Speaker 2: Jim's I've never gotten them. I mean maybe that's a 1072 01:00:04,640 --> 01:00:08,480 Speaker 2: problem on my I let him get the presence. Yeah, 1073 01:00:08,200 --> 01:00:11,560 Speaker 2: I'm not in charge. He doesn't get my parents anything, right, 1074 01:00:11,920 --> 01:00:14,880 Speaker 2: I feel like you're just and also there's not this. 1075 01:00:15,120 --> 01:00:18,080 Speaker 2: I feel like this is kind of a psychologically complicated 1076 01:00:18,080 --> 01:00:21,400 Speaker 2: thing where the boyfriend and siblings are all going in 1077 01:00:21,440 --> 01:00:23,760 Speaker 2: on these gifts and leaving Bobby out. 1078 01:00:24,360 --> 01:00:24,600 Speaker 1: Yeah. 1079 01:00:24,680 --> 01:00:26,960 Speaker 4: I think it would be up to the boyfriend to 1080 01:00:28,080 --> 01:00:31,440 Speaker 4: be like either say like, hey, can we put my 1081 01:00:31,520 --> 01:00:36,320 Speaker 4: boyfriend's name on this? Or he should help you find like, 1082 01:00:36,720 --> 01:00:38,120 Speaker 4: you know what my parents would like? 1083 01:00:38,440 --> 01:00:40,760 Speaker 1: Here's this? Get them? Yeah? 1084 01:00:41,640 --> 01:00:44,000 Speaker 2: I think, I mean, why this person is putting in 1085 01:00:44,520 --> 01:00:48,480 Speaker 2: a lot of energy to these parents. It doesn't make 1086 01:00:48,480 --> 01:00:53,440 Speaker 2: any sense. Yeah, I say, just stop altogether. Although now 1087 01:00:53,440 --> 01:00:56,000 Speaker 2: you've created kind of a pattern that's going to feel 1088 01:00:56,040 --> 01:00:57,160 Speaker 2: strange when it ends. 1089 01:00:57,600 --> 01:01:02,000 Speaker 4: Right, Well, I'm curious do what we can't get Bobby 1090 01:01:02,000 --> 01:01:07,400 Speaker 4: on the line, But does he get gifts from them? 1091 01:01:07,720 --> 01:01:08,800 Speaker 1: That's a good question. 1092 01:01:08,600 --> 01:01:11,480 Speaker 4: Because Bobby also mentioned Father's Day and Mother's Day and 1093 01:01:11,600 --> 01:01:15,160 Speaker 4: like that's all like, yeah, are they getting you gifts 1094 01:01:15,200 --> 01:01:17,160 Speaker 4: for your birthday and for Christmas? 1095 01:01:17,200 --> 01:01:19,560 Speaker 1: And you know, do you get an Easter basket? 1096 01:01:19,680 --> 01:01:19,880 Speaker 3: You know? 1097 01:01:20,080 --> 01:01:24,680 Speaker 4: Is it that sort of thing like or or do 1098 01:01:24,760 --> 01:01:27,880 Speaker 4: the parents get you and your boyfriend like a joint gift? 1099 01:01:28,040 --> 01:01:30,000 Speaker 4: Like right, isn't that case? 1100 01:01:30,160 --> 01:01:31,720 Speaker 1: Yeah? I don't know. You wouldn't kill him. 1101 01:01:32,600 --> 01:01:35,040 Speaker 2: Bobby has kind of been dragged into this high level 1102 01:01:35,200 --> 01:01:40,040 Speaker 2: gift giving scam the ghost where for whatever reason, gifts 1103 01:01:40,040 --> 01:01:44,520 Speaker 2: are being given over and over. But these six children 1104 01:01:45,440 --> 01:01:48,720 Speaker 2: want nothing to do with Bobby's gifts. I think Bobby 1105 01:01:48,920 --> 01:01:52,600 Speaker 2: should take whatever. Another thing that's really good. 1106 01:01:54,680 --> 01:01:58,160 Speaker 4: For rich people is like donating money for like to 1107 01:01:58,280 --> 01:01:59,520 Speaker 4: charity to their name. 1108 01:02:00,160 --> 01:02:02,720 Speaker 1: Yes, that really is. 1109 01:02:02,680 --> 01:02:05,720 Speaker 4: Like some sort of like one upmanship of like I 1110 01:02:05,760 --> 01:02:08,800 Speaker 4: know you want something, but guess what people need things. 1111 01:02:09,920 --> 01:02:11,720 Speaker 1: While you're buzzing around the lake house. 1112 01:02:12,040 --> 01:02:16,560 Speaker 4: Yeah yeah, so yeah, making a donation in their name 1113 01:02:16,800 --> 01:02:18,600 Speaker 4: is really it's really classy. 1114 01:02:19,000 --> 01:02:22,800 Speaker 1: But just get like a very expensive card with that. 1115 01:02:23,160 --> 01:02:25,120 Speaker 1: Oh that's beautiful, one of these cards. 1116 01:02:25,160 --> 01:02:25,320 Speaker 3: You know. 1117 01:02:25,880 --> 01:02:28,960 Speaker 2: Well, I feel like, did they go out of business? 1118 01:02:28,960 --> 01:02:30,240 Speaker 2: I feel like a walk. 1119 01:02:30,080 --> 01:02:31,560 Speaker 1: Away from me. You're kidding. 1120 01:02:31,920 --> 01:02:36,040 Speaker 2: No, At the beginning of this pandemic, I right before 1121 01:02:36,240 --> 01:02:37,120 Speaker 2: you saw to it. 1122 01:02:37,120 --> 01:02:38,400 Speaker 1: That they would go out a business. 1123 01:02:38,600 --> 01:02:43,080 Speaker 2: I swore, if it's the last thing I do, Papyrus 1124 01:02:43,080 --> 01:02:44,040 Speaker 2: will go out of business. 1125 01:02:44,040 --> 01:02:46,120 Speaker 1: Their brick and mortar stores will close. 1126 01:02:46,760 --> 01:02:46,840 Speaker 3: No. 1127 01:02:47,600 --> 01:02:49,320 Speaker 1: When we were getting ready before. 1128 01:02:49,040 --> 01:02:52,920 Speaker 2: This podcast began, I needed help wrapping gifts, and so 1129 01:02:52,960 --> 01:02:55,240 Speaker 2: I went to Papyrus because I'm so bad at wrapping 1130 01:02:55,240 --> 01:02:58,760 Speaker 2: gifts and they were having a fire sale going out 1131 01:02:58,760 --> 01:03:02,040 Speaker 2: of business, and a tea there. Very sweet teen wrapped 1132 01:03:02,040 --> 01:03:07,640 Speaker 2: all these gifts on discount, heavily discounted because they were 1133 01:03:07,680 --> 01:03:10,400 Speaker 2: going out of business. But apparently you've kind of got 1134 01:03:10,440 --> 01:03:13,320 Speaker 2: this rogue Papyrus that's running. 1135 01:03:13,320 --> 01:03:16,360 Speaker 1: Should I go say something? I think they don't know right, 1136 01:03:16,360 --> 01:03:19,160 Speaker 1: they're just kind of like automatic. Our phone's been ringing. 1137 01:03:20,120 --> 01:03:22,840 Speaker 1: We haven't been paid in months. But is that what's 1138 01:03:22,880 --> 01:03:25,680 Speaker 1: going on? Yeah? 1139 01:03:25,720 --> 01:03:28,760 Speaker 2: But yeah, an expensive card. Maybe find one of those 1140 01:03:28,840 --> 01:03:30,840 Speaker 2: charities where they put your name on a bench or 1141 01:03:30,880 --> 01:03:34,640 Speaker 2: a brick or that kind of thing. That's a thing, right, 1142 01:03:34,800 --> 01:03:36,680 Speaker 2: I think I've seen that before. 1143 01:03:36,920 --> 01:03:39,360 Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, we're going to put your name on a 1144 01:03:39,520 --> 01:03:43,640 Speaker 1: on a on something, right, a charity where they put 1145 01:03:43,680 --> 01:03:48,560 Speaker 1: your name on something. I think those are more expensive though. 1146 01:03:49,320 --> 01:03:53,160 Speaker 2: Right, that's a Christmas gift, that's a fiftieth anniversary gift. 1147 01:03:53,160 --> 01:03:59,000 Speaker 2: But a Mother's Day, Father's Day. Maybe animal charity or something. 1148 01:03:58,760 --> 01:04:05,560 Speaker 1: The ASPCA, right, or something really like dismal. Right, something 1149 01:04:05,720 --> 01:04:08,800 Speaker 1: just really just sad, and that reminds everyone of how 1150 01:04:08,840 --> 01:04:13,200 Speaker 1: horrible so many dead children's funds goes to kind of 1151 01:04:13,440 --> 01:04:18,000 Speaker 1: propelling children's deaths. So just to remind everyone that they're 1152 01:04:18,040 --> 01:04:19,160 Speaker 1: dead children. 1153 01:04:21,080 --> 01:04:25,600 Speaker 4: Awareness my charity of raising awareness for dead children. 1154 01:04:28,160 --> 01:04:31,760 Speaker 2: Cole, Okay, we're done answering questions. 1155 01:04:32,720 --> 01:04:32,959 Speaker 1: Cole. 1156 01:04:33,040 --> 01:04:35,040 Speaker 2: I'm so happy to see you. I'm so glad you 1157 01:04:35,640 --> 01:04:38,520 Speaker 2: be here, and this CAFL maker is wonderful. 1158 01:04:38,840 --> 01:04:42,320 Speaker 4: I really wanted to show up everyone else who's ever done. 1159 01:04:43,040 --> 01:04:45,520 Speaker 1: I mean, this is something that would be want to do. 1160 01:04:45,560 --> 01:04:51,600 Speaker 1: Embarrass your Frankly, you have good multiple time. Good for 1161 01:04:51,720 --> 01:04:52,080 Speaker 1: a moment. 1162 01:04:52,120 --> 01:04:55,240 Speaker 2: One of this podcasts have been humiliated. And we're just 1163 01:04:55,280 --> 01:05:00,520 Speaker 2: going to exit on that note, and uh, listen, this 1164 01:05:00,560 --> 01:05:06,040 Speaker 2: is the end. Thank you for being here, and do 1165 01:05:06,160 --> 01:05:07,360 Speaker 2: whatever you need to do now. 1166 01:05:07,440 --> 01:05:07,960 Speaker 1: I don't care. 1167 01:05:08,520 --> 01:05:16,400 Speaker 2: I have a nice day, bye bye. I said, No 1168 01:05:16,480 --> 01:05:19,760 Speaker 2: Gifts is an exactly right production. It's engineered by our 1169 01:05:19,800 --> 01:05:22,680 Speaker 2: dear friend Annalise Nelson and the theme song is by 1170 01:05:22,760 --> 01:05:26,760 Speaker 2: miracle worker Amy Mann. You must follow the show on 1171 01:05:26,840 --> 01:05:30,240 Speaker 2: Instagram at I said No Gifts, that's where you're going 1172 01:05:30,280 --> 01:05:32,600 Speaker 2: to see pictures of all these wonderful gifts I'm getting. 1173 01:05:32,760 --> 01:05:36,680 Speaker 2: Listen and subscribe on Apple Podcasts, Stitcher or wherever you 1174 01:05:36,760 --> 01:05:37,160 Speaker 2: found me. 1175 01:05:37,480 --> 01:05:39,560 Speaker 1: And why not leave a review while you're there. It's 1176 01:05:39,680 --> 01:05:40,840 Speaker 1: really the least you could do. 1177 01:05:41,160 --> 01:05:44,320 Speaker 2: And if you're interested in advertising on the show, go 1178 01:05:44,480 --> 01:05:47,120 Speaker 2: to midroll dot com slash ads. 1179 01:05:48,480 --> 01:05:55,480 Speaker 3: Hello invit did you hear fun? A man? Myself perfectly clear? 1180 01:05:56,800 --> 01:06:02,240 Speaker 3: But you're a guess, Tom, you gotta come to me 1181 01:06:02,720 --> 01:06:08,640 Speaker 3: empty And I said, no, guest, your own presence is 1182 01:06:08,920 --> 01:06:14,920 Speaker 3: present in no. I already had too much stuff, So 1183 01:06:15,120 --> 01:06:18,000 Speaker 3: how do you dare to surbey me