WEBVTT - Fantasy Suites... and Overnights! 0:00:02.160 --> 0:00:04.040 Hey, everyone, welcome back to Better Happy Hour. 0:00:04.080 --> 0:00:05.360 I'm Joe and I'm Serena. 0:00:06.080 --> 0:00:13.000 We are here too. Recap Fantasy Sweets, Overnights, Fantasy Sweets. 0:00:12.440 --> 0:00:17.800 Overnights, Yes, yes, Fantasy Sweets and Overnight one and the same. 0:00:18.120 --> 0:00:19.239 What did you think overall? 0:00:19.720 --> 0:00:20.440 I thought it was good. 0:00:20.440 --> 0:00:24.000 I feel like Fantasy Sweets is usually a very juicy episode. 0:00:24.040 --> 0:00:29.120 I wouldn't say this was that juicy because the physicality 0:00:29.200 --> 0:00:32.120 of it all kind of stayed out of the picture. 0:00:32.200 --> 0:00:34.280 Yeah, because we didn't have Teresa there. Do you remember 0:00:34.360 --> 0:00:36.280 Gary and Teresa's Fantasy Sweets? 0:00:36.320 --> 0:00:36.559 I do. 0:00:37.240 --> 0:00:40.720 That was juicy, that awesome, and she was in like 0:00:40.760 --> 0:00:44.159 a little wrong for and she looks so cute and 0:00:44.400 --> 0:00:45.720 they yeah, I liked. 0:00:45.960 --> 0:00:48.199 That's when they knew. That's when they knew that this 0:00:48.280 --> 0:00:50.000 show is going to get renewed. 0:00:50.479 --> 0:00:52.960 When Gary was going around doing all this Fantasy Sweets. 0:00:53.040 --> 0:00:56.160 Yeah, yeah, like this is this is good. We got 0:00:56.160 --> 0:00:56.720 something here. 0:00:56.920 --> 0:00:59.760 Yeah, well, a little less juicy this season, but also 0:01:00.880 --> 0:01:01.840 totally respectable. 0:01:02.080 --> 0:01:03.720 Yeah, Joe made the decision to. 0:01:05.400 --> 0:01:08.720 Not bring the physical intimacy into any of her relationships. 0:01:08.800 --> 0:01:11.480 Okay, so well we're obviously we're gonna break down the 0:01:11.520 --> 0:01:14.320 whole episode but I do want to comment on that 0:01:14.480 --> 0:01:20.720 at up top. Yeah, sure, great, wonderful, lovely, lovely, lovely 0:01:20.760 --> 0:01:24.520 thing to say. But if you're gonna do that, in 0:01:24.640 --> 0:01:30.160 my opinion, just keep it to yourself because it takes 0:01:30.200 --> 0:01:31.919 away the fun for. 0:01:31.920 --> 0:01:35.120 Us of wondering like did they get freaky? 0:01:35.400 --> 0:01:38.400 Yeah, yeah, like this is like late, let's not forget 0:01:39.319 --> 0:01:43.039 this is the reality TV and I want my reality 0:01:43.040 --> 0:01:46.480 television to be a little messy. And when you do 0:01:46.600 --> 0:01:49.080 that up front, like that's essentially what she did was 0:01:49.120 --> 0:01:52.520 what Zach Shallcross tried. 0:01:52.600 --> 0:01:55.320 To do and yeah and fail immediately failed. 0:01:55.400 --> 0:02:00.360 Yeah, which was great, great, and much more enjoy as 0:02:00.360 --> 0:02:02.520 a viewer that he did fail at that task. 0:02:02.600 --> 0:02:06.000 And like, I totally respect her doing that, And like, 0:02:06.400 --> 0:02:08.240 if I'm the guy that she picks at the end 0:02:08.280 --> 0:02:10.240 and I watch that, it would make me feel so 0:02:10.320 --> 0:02:13.800 much more secure. So I get it. I do get it. 0:02:13.800 --> 0:02:17.359 It is probably the right decision, but selfishly, as a viewer, 0:02:17.800 --> 0:02:19.080 I don't need that shit in my world. 0:02:19.639 --> 0:02:22.040 Yeah, it's definitely a conversation that could be had in 0:02:22.080 --> 0:02:24.200 the fantasy speed, like once the cameras are gone, just 0:02:24.240 --> 0:02:27.560 being like, hey, before you try to jump my bones, 0:02:27.600 --> 0:02:30.120 I'm just letting you know that's not going to happen tonight, yeah, 0:02:30.200 --> 0:02:33.320 or just like opening the floor to like, you know 0:02:33.440 --> 0:02:37.000 where the boundaries are at, but let me speculate. But 0:02:37.160 --> 0:02:38.640 the thing is that she said it because she didn't 0:02:38.680 --> 0:02:40.400 want us to speculate, you know, she wanted us to 0:02:40.440 --> 0:02:43.000 know she has viewers that like that was her intention. 0:02:43.200 --> 0:02:46.680 Calculated, smart move. But yeah, said, Okay, So where are they. 0:02:47.160 --> 0:02:51.520 They're in Tahiti and they are living it up on 0:02:51.560 --> 0:02:55.359 a cruise ship, which we haven't seen since Gabby and 0:02:55.440 --> 0:02:58.360 Rachel's season. This is a little different because they're living 0:02:58.360 --> 0:03:00.840 on the cruise ship, but they're like going out to 0:03:00.960 --> 0:03:02.919 land and doing things as well. 0:03:03.040 --> 0:03:03.880 Who's first up? 0:03:04.280 --> 0:03:04.839 First up? 0:03:04.960 --> 0:03:07.440 We have, well, first up, we have a visit from Nancy, Yeah, 0:03:07.919 --> 0:03:10.200 who we actually are going to be having as our 0:03:10.240 --> 0:03:12.880 guests this week for an interview, so stay tuned for that. 0:03:13.480 --> 0:03:14.720 But I love Nancy. 0:03:14.919 --> 0:03:17.160 I actually forgot how much I love Nancy because we 0:03:17.240 --> 0:03:18.680 haven't seen her face in a minute. 0:03:18.800 --> 0:03:21.920 I keep saying that Nancy is the star of a 0:03:21.960 --> 0:03:25.560 Nancy Meyers movie she has and I watch it and 0:03:25.600 --> 0:03:27.560 I'm like, damn, Like, I think Joan was a great 0:03:27.680 --> 0:03:30.720 Golden Bachelorette. But I would have also liked Nancy. I 0:03:31.320 --> 0:03:32.919 was always like pro Nancy. 0:03:33.200 --> 0:03:35.560 I agree, I agree if. 0:03:35.480 --> 0:03:37.640 I wish she would have had I don't. I feel 0:03:37.640 --> 0:03:40.400 like she didn't really have a big story when it 0:03:40.440 --> 0:03:42.440 came to her and Gary. I think it was kind 0:03:42.480 --> 0:03:44.960 of just like I don't even really remember it, to 0:03:45.000 --> 0:03:45.600 be honest. 0:03:45.400 --> 0:03:48.520 Her and Gary didn't have much going on in terms 0:03:48.520 --> 0:03:49.080 of connection. 0:03:49.440 --> 0:03:54.360 But I think if they did, she was definitely a contender. 0:03:54.720 --> 0:03:54.960 Yeah. 0:03:55.000 --> 0:03:57.400 Like, I think if it was a different Golden Bachelor 0:03:57.440 --> 0:04:00.200 that did have a connection with Nancy, she would really 0:04:00.320 --> 0:04:01.360 shine on the season. 0:04:01.440 --> 0:04:02.720 And she is so beautiful. 0:04:03.320 --> 0:04:06.280 So if there is a Golden Bathroom Paradise, would love 0:04:06.320 --> 0:04:06.720 to see. 0:04:06.560 --> 0:04:07.000 Her on it. 0:04:07.280 --> 0:04:10.560 I could also see a lot of these guys from 0:04:11.400 --> 0:04:15.240 Joan season reaching out to Nancy. 0:04:15.440 --> 0:04:18.640 Yeah, there's a lot of Golden women that I hope 0:04:18.760 --> 0:04:20.080 get matched up with the Golden men. 0:04:20.520 --> 0:04:20.919 Yeah. 0:04:21.279 --> 0:04:22.680 Well see, that's the fun of it. 0:04:22.920 --> 0:04:26.240 I'm waiting for like these like soft launches of the 0:04:26.240 --> 0:04:28.200 golden relationships, Like what are those even going? 0:04:28.400 --> 0:04:29.880 Do you think they know what a soft lunch is? 0:04:30.240 --> 0:04:30.719 Probably not. 0:04:31.120 --> 0:04:32.680 Yeah, I think they got people that will help. I 0:04:32.680 --> 0:04:33.520 think their kids will. 0:04:33.360 --> 0:04:34.400 Help their kids will help. 0:04:34.480 --> 0:04:38.880 Yeah, so yeah, but essentially their conversation was just kind 0:04:38.920 --> 0:04:42.120 of like, yeah, like having a friend there to comfort 0:04:42.160 --> 0:04:46.400 you and be like you deserve you deserve this, deserve 0:04:46.480 --> 0:04:48.039 to be in love, which I'm sure. 0:04:47.880 --> 0:04:50.719 Helps, I think so. And what Joan kind of broke 0:04:50.800 --> 0:04:53.560 down for Nancy for each guy, her like main thing 0:04:53.720 --> 0:04:57.320 was guy is further along than Joan is, which I 0:04:57.320 --> 0:05:00.880 think we've kind of seen. Yeah, I personally think that 0:05:01.040 --> 0:05:05.479 can be detrimental if it's the girl is further along 0:05:05.520 --> 0:05:08.520 than the guy is. I feel like that dynamic doesn't 0:05:08.600 --> 0:05:11.839 all usually doesn't play out great. But if the guy 0:05:12.000 --> 0:05:14.800 is further along than the girl is, there's still potential 0:05:15.279 --> 0:05:18.599 for the girl to catch up in the dating world. 0:05:18.720 --> 0:05:20.000 Yeah, both on and off the show. 0:05:20.640 --> 0:05:21.039 Yeah. 0:05:21.279 --> 0:05:24.680 Well, like, let's example it between you and I. 0:05:24.680 --> 0:05:27.200 If I was really into you and you were like, 0:05:27.240 --> 0:05:28.680 this girl is way more into me than I am 0:05:28.720 --> 0:05:31.520 into him, I don't think. I don't think we would 0:05:31.520 --> 0:05:35.640 have worked out, Okay, but if you were more into me, 0:05:36.880 --> 0:05:38.600 I think we still would have had a chance. Luckily, 0:05:38.600 --> 0:05:40.280 we were equally into each other. But this is just 0:05:40.360 --> 0:05:40.960 an example. 0:05:41.120 --> 0:05:43.120 Okay, So you're saying there's still a chance. 0:05:43.120 --> 0:05:44.680 Yeah, I'm saying there's still a shows I was going. 0:05:44.680 --> 0:05:49.440 To say, I think Guy and Chock are both equally like. 0:05:49.480 --> 0:05:52.839 I would say they're both more into Joan than she 0:05:54.000 --> 0:05:54.880 might be into them. 0:05:55.480 --> 0:05:58.200 Yeah, she's keeping our cards close to her chest, for sure. 0:05:58.560 --> 0:06:02.920 And then she tells Nancy that Pascal reminds her of 0:06:03.279 --> 0:06:06.240 her late husband John, which she said multiple times, so 0:06:06.240 --> 0:06:08.520 we do know that, and that he's the most guarded one. 0:06:08.560 --> 0:06:11.960 I don't know if I really have seen him be guarded, 0:06:13.000 --> 0:06:15.160 but it's definitely been mentioned multiple times. 0:06:15.440 --> 0:06:19.520 I think I don't know if I mean, well, we okay, 0:06:19.560 --> 0:06:25.520 so spoiler, you know, we see that Pascal leaves. 0:06:25.760 --> 0:06:27.839 Yeah, fake spoiler, fake spoiler. 0:06:27.839 --> 0:06:29.960 I guess he happens at the end of the episode, 0:06:30.120 --> 0:06:32.479 but we see that he leaves, and I don't think it. 0:06:32.720 --> 0:06:35.600 I think the guarded thing is kind of bullshit. I 0:06:35.720 --> 0:06:41.160 just really think it's the case of like's not he's 0:06:41.200 --> 0:06:42.240 just not that into. 0:06:41.960 --> 0:06:44.680 You, and I think it moved faster than what he 0:06:44.720 --> 0:06:47.400 was ready for. Yeah, but we can break that down 0:06:48.040 --> 0:06:51.159 more on his one on one And then Chalk, she 0:06:51.279 --> 0:06:54.000 says he's too good to be true, which I feel 0:06:54.040 --> 0:06:58.679 like is usually a cop out that the leads say 0:06:59.000 --> 0:07:01.599 when they're looking for a problem with a relationship but 0:07:01.640 --> 0:07:04.200 there isn't one. Like, I feel like Chalk and Joan 0:07:04.320 --> 0:07:08.880 haven't really had any actual issues and she doesn't have 0:07:09.000 --> 0:07:11.480 any major concerns with him, And I feel like when 0:07:11.520 --> 0:07:13.440 that's the case, the default is like, is it too 0:07:13.480 --> 0:07:14.160 good to be true? 0:07:14.880 --> 0:07:17.720 Yeah? And I think that's I think that it's fair 0:07:17.760 --> 0:07:20.360 at any age, because I could see people being like, well, 0:07:20.400 --> 0:07:26.200 you know, at at Joan's stage in life, like to 0:07:26.480 --> 0:07:29.800 you know, it's probably unimaginable to find someone who is 0:07:29.960 --> 0:07:33.360 like checks all the boxes and is absolutely perfect. 0:07:33.960 --> 0:07:36.480 Especially when she feels like she had that already. 0:07:36.520 --> 0:07:38.800 She's probably like, am I really gonna find this twice 0:07:38.840 --> 0:07:39.480 in my life? 0:07:39.520 --> 0:07:41.440 But I mean maybe, Joan, you're lucky. 0:07:41.920 --> 0:07:45.080 I also just like, you can find a problem with anyone. 0:07:45.240 --> 0:07:47.400 Let's stick a little deeper. I'm sure we could find 0:07:47.400 --> 0:07:51.120 a concern here. Yeah, let's let's let's look for one. 0:07:51.200 --> 0:07:53.320 I bet you it's there. There's a you can always 0:07:53.360 --> 0:07:55.720 find a concern with someone that you're dating. Yeah, there's 0:07:55.760 --> 0:07:58.000 never no concern. It's never too good to be true 0:07:58.720 --> 0:08:00.640 on paper, emotionally or something. 0:08:00.720 --> 0:08:01.480 There's something in the. 0:08:01.440 --> 0:08:03.960 Mix that we can stress ourselves out about inspiral about 0:08:04.280 --> 0:08:04.560 we just. 0:08:04.680 --> 0:08:06.240 I don't know what you're saying right now, but. 0:08:08.280 --> 0:08:11.800 You know what I'm saying, Oh joking, joking, never mind, 0:08:12.240 --> 0:08:13.240 but do you know what I mean? 0:08:13.440 --> 0:08:14.760 Yeah? I agree, I agree. 0:08:14.840 --> 0:08:17.840 Not everyone is no one is too good to be true. 0:08:18.200 --> 0:08:21.320 Yeah, not everyone's perfect. Like there's gonna be things that 0:08:21.360 --> 0:08:23.640 you like disagree on or something, or you're like this 0:08:23.800 --> 0:08:24.520 is I can't. 0:08:24.280 --> 0:08:27.040 Believe this, yeah yeah, or like you know, this is 0:08:27.080 --> 0:08:29.880 an ideal and that's my concern. 0:08:30.080 --> 0:08:36.920 Yeah. 0:08:37.160 --> 0:08:42.240 First date we have is guy boat date. 0:08:42.480 --> 0:08:45.840 Yeah, pretty similar vibes to the hometown. They're on the water, 0:08:45.880 --> 0:08:48.600 they're on a boat, they do some snorkeling. 0:08:49.200 --> 0:08:53.240 Yeah. Yeah, I'm just trying to like really be like, Okay, 0:08:54.240 --> 0:08:58.840 she's saying everything that Joan's saying is making me feel 0:08:58.880 --> 0:09:03.400 like she really is enamored and in love with guy. 0:09:04.360 --> 0:09:09.560 But when I watch them, something seems to be missing. 0:09:10.080 --> 0:09:15.840 Right, Yeah, I agree, it is feeling and looking like 0:09:16.280 --> 0:09:19.079 he's more into her than she. 0:09:19.160 --> 0:09:25.800 It could also just be that she's torn. She's in 0:09:25.840 --> 0:09:28.600 love with multiple guys and she doesn't want to. 0:09:29.280 --> 0:09:31.000 Like go all in and hurt someone's feelings. 0:09:31.400 --> 0:09:31.480 One. 0:09:32.480 --> 0:09:34.360 Like I said, I think she's holding her cards pretty 0:09:34.360 --> 0:09:36.360 close to her chest across the board with all three 0:09:36.400 --> 0:09:40.000 of these relationships, and you know we see that when 0:09:40.240 --> 0:09:42.520 you know Pascal leaves, she was more upset than I 0:09:42.559 --> 0:09:43.559 think I expected her to. 0:09:43.520 --> 0:09:44.520 Be for sure. 0:09:46.440 --> 0:09:50.720 So they seem to have a really fun, nice day. Yeah, 0:09:51.320 --> 0:09:52.040 it was just nice. 0:09:52.120 --> 0:09:52.760 It was nice. 0:09:52.880 --> 0:09:57.720 You know, there wasn't really anything heavy or dramatic or controversial. 0:09:57.720 --> 0:09:59.080 It's just a really nice day. No. 0:09:59.240 --> 0:10:01.679 And then at the the cocktail portion of it, of 0:10:01.760 --> 0:10:07.920 the dinner portion, she invites him into overnight but tells 0:10:07.960 --> 0:10:12.160 him like, hey, but we're not going to be intimate. 0:10:12.400 --> 0:10:12.800 Yeah. 0:10:12.920 --> 0:10:14.600 Do you think they're like at least like making out. 0:10:15.000 --> 0:10:16.200 I think they're definitely making out. 0:10:16.720 --> 0:10:18.320 So this is a makeout session. 0:10:18.760 --> 0:10:21.240 Yeah, I think they're just chatting and kissing. 0:10:21.520 --> 0:10:25.200 What do you think? What do you think the heavy 0:10:25.280 --> 0:10:27.960 questions are when they get into that room, Like how 0:10:27.960 --> 0:10:30.839 do you see this working outside here? 0:10:31.160 --> 0:10:31.439 Yeah? 0:10:31.480 --> 0:10:31.960 Probably? 0:10:32.120 --> 0:10:35.440 I mean I think every. 0:10:37.000 --> 0:10:41.439 I would love to compare the lead's fantasy speed experiences, 0:10:41.880 --> 0:10:43.880 Like I feel like every lead kind of goes in 0:10:43.920 --> 0:10:46.680 handling it different. Yeah, And I think it also depends 0:10:46.720 --> 0:10:50.079 on like where their feelings are at for that person, 0:10:50.240 --> 0:10:52.160 And there's like a lot of different factors, But I 0:10:52.200 --> 0:10:58.840 would assume the conversations are like financial situation. He's working 0:10:58.880 --> 0:11:01.960 but going to be retiring soon, Like logistically when is 0:11:01.960 --> 0:11:06.480 he retiring? They live on opposite sides of the country, Ish, 0:11:06.520 --> 0:11:08.040 how are we making that work? 0:11:08.559 --> 0:11:12.440 That's a big problem. The living opposite opposite sides of 0:11:12.440 --> 0:11:16.720 the country. Three hour time change, yeah, big, big, big. 0:11:16.520 --> 0:11:19.640 Deal, big deal. But I mean they could also like 0:11:20.200 --> 0:11:23.320 be by coastal. They could do is Lake like his 0:11:23.480 --> 0:11:27.000 Tahoe place for four months of the year, and then 0:11:27.280 --> 0:11:28.840 new where she's New Jersey. 0:11:28.920 --> 0:11:29.800 She's not New Jersey. 0:11:29.800 --> 0:11:32.959 I think she is Maryland, Maryland, Okay, But. 0:11:32.960 --> 0:11:35.160 Every time I see her, I think she's from like Berkeley. 0:11:35.720 --> 0:11:39.600 Where's that California, California. She looks like a California girl. Yeah, 0:11:40.200 --> 0:11:42.439 And then they could do, you know, like the rest 0:11:42.440 --> 0:11:43.720 of the year in Maryland. 0:11:43.920 --> 0:11:45.800 Like she seems from when we've. 0:11:45.600 --> 0:11:50.000 Talked to her, she seems open to an unconventional situation 0:11:50.040 --> 0:11:52.120 where they don't just like pick a place move in together. 0:11:53.080 --> 0:11:54.800 Because I think she is aware that she doesn't want 0:11:54.840 --> 0:11:57.800 to sacrifice her family, and she doesn't want to force 0:11:57.840 --> 0:11:59.120 someone to sacrifice everything is. 0:11:59.080 --> 0:11:59.760 The most important thing. 0:11:59.800 --> 0:12:01.960 That family is the most iportant thing to Joan, don't 0:12:02.000 --> 0:12:02.319 forget it. 0:12:02.800 --> 0:12:06.760 Uh, okay, so this date, this date's fine, it ends. 0:12:06.960 --> 0:12:08.560 Was there a morning after interview? 0:12:09.920 --> 0:12:13.800 Did they show them the next morning, like waking up cuddling, Like, oh, then, I. 0:12:13.800 --> 0:12:14.960 Was, I don't think so. 0:12:15.080 --> 0:12:16.679 I don't think so either. I was just like, did 0:12:16.720 --> 0:12:18.640 I like disassociate what's going on. 0:12:19.120 --> 0:12:22.640 Leaving this date? Though? I'm not like, I wouldn't be. 0:12:22.760 --> 0:12:27.360 I guess I wouldn't be shocked either way, Like if 0:12:27.400 --> 0:12:31.559 she if she chose guy, I wouldn't be like I 0:12:31.559 --> 0:12:35.280 can't believe she chose him, and if she doesn't choose 0:12:35.360 --> 0:12:38.360 I'm like, yeah, it's all that also makes sense. 0:12:38.640 --> 0:12:40.880 Yeah, she kind of which is probably not a good sign. No, 0:12:41.040 --> 0:12:43.440 it's probably not. It's probably not a good sign. 0:12:43.800 --> 0:12:48.120 But I get what you're saying, Like she's saying all 0:12:48.160 --> 0:12:51.920 the things that like she should be saying about him 0:12:51.960 --> 0:12:54.240 at this point. I just don't think like we're really 0:12:54.280 --> 0:12:56.280 seeing that like emotion there yet. 0:12:56.520 --> 0:12:57.199 Yeah. 0:12:57.240 --> 0:12:59.600 But I think he's all in on her and he's 0:12:59.760 --> 0:13:02.959 very sweet with her, and I like him. 0:13:03.000 --> 0:13:04.280 I like them together. I think it's great. 0:13:05.120 --> 0:13:08.720 Next up, we have chock. Now Chock, we see Chock 0:13:08.920 --> 0:13:12.520 talking to Jesse Palmer and he's basically like, I'm ready, 0:13:12.600 --> 0:13:15.640 I'm getting down on one knee. I love her, like 0:13:15.800 --> 0:13:18.920 Chock is, Chock's been all in. I think he's been 0:13:18.960 --> 0:13:23.439 all in since Disneyland. Truly, Chock has been all in 0:13:23.480 --> 0:13:24.600 since the Teacups. 0:13:25.920 --> 0:13:28.280 I think you're right for sure. I think you're right. 0:13:28.800 --> 0:13:30.880 He's been smitten since State one. 0:13:30.920 --> 0:13:32.480 And we said it like he wouldn't have come back 0:13:32.520 --> 0:13:35.400 after his mom passed if he was not pretty like 0:13:35.480 --> 0:13:36.400 all in on this ground. 0:13:36.480 --> 0:13:40.680 Yeah, which which yeah, I guess also is I don't 0:13:40.679 --> 0:13:42.719 want to use that as like being like, oh, that's 0:13:42.760 --> 0:13:47.880 an advantage to Chock, but it it definitely. I think 0:13:47.960 --> 0:13:53.800 that helped Joan be more comfortable with like falling for Chock, 0:13:54.000 --> 0:13:57.640 knowing that like he is really into her. 0:13:58.040 --> 0:14:01.679 No, I agree, I think I know what you mean 0:14:01.720 --> 0:14:04.640 by saying it's an advantage. I mean, the situation of 0:14:04.679 --> 0:14:10.040 losing his mom was incredibly tragic and sad, but it 0:14:10.160 --> 0:14:14.160 did strengthen their bond and their relationship and was able. 0:14:14.440 --> 0:14:17.240 They were able to overcome something together and he was 0:14:17.280 --> 0:14:20.240 able to lean on her, and that definitely builds a bond. 0:14:21.680 --> 0:14:23.880 But yeah, Chalk is like kind of the dream in 0:14:23.880 --> 0:14:26.400 this situation, guy is feeling this way too, But like 0:14:26.680 --> 0:14:27.760 Chalk is literally saying it be. 0:14:27.800 --> 0:14:30.200 Like, I am marrying this woman. I'm proposing to her. 0:14:30.240 --> 0:14:30.880 I am all in. 0:14:31.040 --> 0:14:33.600 Like he has no hesitations, Like he doesn't feel like 0:14:33.640 --> 0:14:34.600 it's too fast. 0:14:34.720 --> 0:14:36.040 He's like, this is it? 0:14:36.240 --> 0:14:37.880 But what do we think, Joan? Like, what are we 0:14:37.920 --> 0:14:40.160 seeing on the state? What do we think Joan? How 0:14:40.200 --> 0:14:41.680 do we think Joan feels about him? 0:14:41.800 --> 0:14:43.680 I think she feels really good. She you know, they 0:14:43.680 --> 0:14:45.400 were ATVing, it was very fun. 0:14:46.080 --> 0:14:47.520 She feels very safe with him. 0:14:47.640 --> 0:14:50.040 She feels safe with him. Joan definitely is looking to 0:14:50.080 --> 0:14:52.960 live a certain kind of life after this, and she 0:14:53.360 --> 0:14:56.680 is looking for a partner that also wants to live 0:14:56.720 --> 0:14:57.880 like an exciting, adventurous life. 0:14:57.960 --> 0:15:01.560 Okay, but I do think I do think all three 0:15:01.600 --> 0:15:02.640 of those guys fit. 0:15:02.520 --> 0:15:06.480 That bell I agree, I agree, But I admire her 0:15:06.520 --> 0:15:06.760 for that. 0:15:07.080 --> 0:15:11.000 Yeah, Like she's obviously been very selective through this process 0:15:11.080 --> 0:15:13.800 because all three of her final three guys kind of 0:15:13.840 --> 0:15:17.800 fall into that same bracket right where they like are 0:15:17.920 --> 0:15:20.720 adventurous and they want to travel and they have you know, 0:15:20.800 --> 0:15:24.360 the freedom and the means to do so. Yeah, but 0:15:24.600 --> 0:15:27.160 the day goes great. I mean they're very smitt with 0:15:27.200 --> 0:15:31.920 each other. Chalk is also just like he's Goshi and 0:15:31.960 --> 0:15:34.000 he wears his heart on his sleeve, and I think 0:15:34.040 --> 0:15:36.240 it brings up the emotion of Joan a little bit 0:15:36.240 --> 0:15:37.440 more than we see with guys. 0:15:37.720 --> 0:15:41.800 Their body language is just much it's just there. Yeah, 0:15:41.960 --> 0:15:44.240 it's just it's just it's just much stronger. 0:15:44.280 --> 0:15:47.280 It seems like, Yeah, the body language does feel stronger. 0:15:47.440 --> 0:15:49.720 I feel like, yeah, we see Chock, Yeah it is. 0:15:50.120 --> 0:15:53.040 I guess like the word smitten makes sense because like 0:15:53.080 --> 0:15:56.720 when he's like you could see Chuck like gazing into 0:15:56.760 --> 0:15:59.400 her eyes and it's just kind of like I'm in love. 0:15:59.400 --> 0:16:00.400 And he's the only one. 0:16:00.440 --> 0:16:02.120 I feel like we really see her like make out 0:16:02.160 --> 0:16:04.960 with Like they kind of started like making out a 0:16:04.960 --> 0:16:05.520 few times. 0:16:05.680 --> 0:16:07.880 Yeah. Well, I think they all make I think they 0:16:08.080 --> 0:16:09.840 all make out. We just may not see it as well. 0:16:09.920 --> 0:16:13.840 Yeah, that's true. That's true. They do fantasy suites. 0:16:13.960 --> 0:16:19.880 Let me ask you this hypothetical. If she is going 0:16:19.960 --> 0:16:22.240 to choose Chok or she is going to choose guy, 0:16:23.280 --> 0:16:25.880 do you think she does hick up with them? 0:16:26.280 --> 0:16:27.680 I don't think so, you do. 0:16:27.760 --> 0:16:30.600 I think that's very possible that it's happened in the past, 0:16:30.640 --> 0:16:34.320 where people are like nothing happened and nothing's gonna happen. Yeah, 0:16:34.360 --> 0:16:37.600 where things have gone down because like you'll just never know, 0:16:37.760 --> 0:16:39.720 you know. And also people have the right to their privacy. 0:16:39.840 --> 0:16:41.720 We also said that was Zach. Really Zach didn't need 0:16:41.760 --> 0:16:44.960 to come out and be like we boned, Yeah it happened, 0:16:45.280 --> 0:16:46.280 Like he could have just kept. 0:16:46.200 --> 0:16:47.920 That to himself, like there's no mics or cameras, no 0:16:47.920 --> 0:16:48.560 one would have known. 0:16:51.040 --> 0:16:52.720 Yeah, So I think, I mean, yeah, I. 0:16:53.280 --> 0:16:55.400 Think she's standing by it. I feel like she wouldn't 0:16:55.440 --> 0:16:58.440 have said it. She's giving like she would like they're sixty, 0:16:58.560 --> 0:16:59.320 like who cares. 0:16:59.360 --> 0:17:00.800 Like if they don't want to do something, they're not 0:17:00.800 --> 0:17:01.880 gonna do And if they want to do something, I 0:17:01.920 --> 0:17:03.320 feel like they're just gonna say it and they're gonna 0:17:03.360 --> 0:17:03.560 do it. 0:17:03.840 --> 0:17:08.560 Yeah. But I would say, after all, after overnights with 0:17:08.760 --> 0:17:11.840 Overnight with Chok, and after watching this date, I feel 0:17:13.920 --> 0:17:18.320 pretty strongly that they're good. 0:17:18.119 --> 0:17:20.000 Right Yeah, oh yeah, they're in a good place for sure, 0:17:20.000 --> 0:17:22.639 and they had the cute little morning after. 0:17:23.160 --> 0:17:32.240 Yep, there's really no there's no doubt, like the only 0:17:33.680 --> 0:17:35.879 there's no doubt in Joan, But I are in chock, 0:17:36.040 --> 0:17:39.880 but I will see then seeing her the Pascal day, 0:17:40.160 --> 0:17:43.240 and she was She's was way more in the Pascal 0:17:43.280 --> 0:17:44.200 than I thought. She was. 0:17:44.400 --> 0:17:45.800 Me too, me too. 0:17:45.880 --> 0:17:49.000 I was like, oh wow, she like And for a 0:17:49.040 --> 0:17:51.000 while I was like, is the only thing that is 0:17:51.080 --> 0:17:54.840 kind of pulling her to Pascal that feeling of familiarity 0:17:55.080 --> 0:17:57.600 because he reminds her of her her husband? 0:17:58.680 --> 0:18:02.320 Or do you or is there anything like Pascal's playing 0:18:02.600 --> 0:18:04.480 a little close to his chest. He's playing a little 0:18:04.520 --> 0:18:07.399 hard to get and that makes Joan maybe want him 0:18:07.400 --> 0:18:09.359 a little more because he's the only guy out of 0:18:09.400 --> 0:18:12.760 these Out of these three, Pascal is the only guy 0:18:12.880 --> 0:18:15.240 kind of like, eh, I'm not sure yet. 0:18:15.400 --> 0:18:17.239 Yeah, but he's still like schmoozing her. 0:18:18.160 --> 0:18:21.560 That's the that's that's where it becomes like she gets 0:18:21.560 --> 0:18:24.080 a little in her head like is he into me 0:18:24.200 --> 0:18:25.720 or it isn't? And then it becomes more of a 0:18:25.800 --> 0:18:26.240 game and. 0:18:26.320 --> 0:18:27.879 Ye, it's a little psychological. 0:18:28.080 --> 0:18:32.040 Yeah, yeah, I know it's fun fun to watch. 0:18:32.160 --> 0:18:34.200 Yeah, yeah, I love you Pascal. 0:18:36.920 --> 0:18:41.679 But he he definitely was freaked out and she says 0:18:41.760 --> 0:18:43.840 like I hope that it goes great and that he's 0:18:43.880 --> 0:18:46.000 going to be meeting my family next week. Like, so 0:18:46.040 --> 0:18:49.480 she definitely went in with the hopes that I think 0:18:49.560 --> 0:18:52.040 she was thinking like there was a chance it was 0:18:52.080 --> 0:18:55.879 going to be him going to next week. And I 0:18:55.920 --> 0:18:59.880 think that her body language with Pascal is really good. 0:19:02.720 --> 0:19:06.440