Speaker 1: Hey, everyone, welcome back to Better Happy Hour.
Speaker 2: I'm Joe and I'm Serena.
Speaker 1: We are here too. Recap Fantasy Sweets, Overnights, Fantasy Sweets.
Speaker 3: Overnights, Yes, yes, Fantasy Sweets and Overnight one and the same.
Speaker 1: What did you think overall?
Speaker 2: I thought it was good.
Speaker 3: I feel like Fantasy Sweets is usually a very juicy episode.
Speaker 3: I wouldn't say this was that juicy because the physicality
Speaker 3: of it all kind of stayed out of the picture.
Speaker 1: Yeah, because we didn't have Teresa there. Do you remember
Speaker 1: Gary and Teresa's Fantasy Sweets?
Speaker 2: I do.
Speaker 3: That was juicy, that awesome, and she was in like
Speaker 3: a little wrong for and she looks so cute and
Speaker 3: they yeah, I liked.
Speaker 1: That's when they knew. That's when they knew that this
Speaker 1: show is going to get renewed.
Speaker 2: When Gary was going around doing all this Fantasy Sweets.
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, like this is this is good. We got
Speaker 1: something here.
Speaker 3: Yeah, well, a little less juicy this season, but also
Speaker 3: totally respectable.
Speaker 2: Yeah, Joe made the decision to.
Speaker 3: Not bring the physical intimacy into any of her relationships.
Speaker 1: Okay, so well we're obviously we're gonna break down the
Speaker 1: whole episode but I do want to comment on that
Speaker 1: at up top. Yeah, sure, great, wonderful, lovely, lovely, lovely
Speaker 1: thing to say. But if you're gonna do that, in
Speaker 1: my opinion, just keep it to yourself because it takes
Speaker 1: away the fun for.
Speaker 3: Us of wondering like did they get freaky?
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, like this is like late, let's not forget
Speaker 1: this is the reality TV and I want my reality
Speaker 1: television to be a little messy. And when you do
Speaker 1: that up front, like that's essentially what she did was
Speaker 1: what Zach Shallcross tried.
Speaker 2: To do and yeah and fail immediately failed.
Speaker 3: Yeah, which was great, great, and much more enjoy as
Speaker 3: a viewer that he did fail at that task.
Speaker 1: And like, I totally respect her doing that, And like,
Speaker 1: if I'm the guy that she picks at the end
Speaker 1: and I watch that, it would make me feel so
Speaker 1: much more secure. So I get it. I do get it.
Speaker 1: It is probably the right decision, but selfishly, as a viewer,
Speaker 1: I don't need that shit in my world.
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's definitely a conversation that could be had in
Speaker 3: the fantasy speed, like once the cameras are gone, just
Speaker 3: being like, hey, before you try to jump my bones,
Speaker 3: I'm just letting you know that's not going to happen tonight, yeah,
Speaker 3: or just like opening the floor to like, you know
Speaker 3: where the boundaries are at, but let me speculate. But
Speaker 3: the thing is that she said it because she didn't
Speaker 3: want us to speculate, you know, she wanted us to
Speaker 3: know she has viewers that like that was her intention.
Speaker 1: Calculated, smart move. But yeah, said, Okay, So where are they.
Speaker 3: They're in Tahiti and they are living it up on
Speaker 3: a cruise ship, which we haven't seen since Gabby and
Speaker 3: Rachel's season. This is a little different because they're living
Speaker 3: on the cruise ship, but they're like going out to
Speaker 3: land and doing things as well.
Speaker 1: Who's first up?
Speaker 2: First up?
Speaker 3: We have, well, first up, we have a visit from Nancy, Yeah,
Speaker 3: who we actually are going to be having as our
Speaker 3: guests this week for an interview, so stay tuned for that.
Speaker 2: But I love Nancy.
Speaker 3: I actually forgot how much I love Nancy because we
Speaker 3: haven't seen her face in a minute.
Speaker 1: I keep saying that Nancy is the star of a
Speaker 1: Nancy Meyers movie she has and I watch it and
Speaker 1: I'm like, damn, Like, I think Joan was a great
Speaker 1: Golden Bachelorette. But I would have also liked Nancy. I
Speaker 1: was always like pro Nancy.
Speaker 2: I agree, I agree if.
Speaker 1: I wish she would have had I don't. I feel
Speaker 1: like she didn't really have a big story when it
Speaker 1: came to her and Gary. I think it was kind
Speaker 1: of just like I don't even really remember it, to
Speaker 1: be honest.
Speaker 3: Her and Gary didn't have much going on in terms
Speaker 3: of connection.
Speaker 1: But I think if they did, she was definitely a contender.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 3: Like, I think if it was a different Golden Bachelor
Speaker 3: that did have a connection with Nancy, she would really
Speaker 3: shine on the season.
Speaker 2: And she is so beautiful.
Speaker 3: So if there is a Golden Bathroom Paradise, would love
Speaker 3: to see.
Speaker 2: Her on it.
Speaker 1: I could also see a lot of these guys from
Speaker 1: Joan season reaching out to Nancy.
Speaker 3: Yeah, there's a lot of Golden women that I hope
Speaker 3: get matched up with the Golden men.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 2: Well see, that's the fun of it.
Speaker 3: I'm waiting for like these like soft launches of the
Speaker 3: golden relationships, Like what are those even going?
Speaker 2: Do you think they know what a soft lunch is?
Speaker 2: Probably not.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I think they got people that will help. I
Speaker 1: think their kids will.
Speaker 2: Help their kids will help.
Speaker 1: Yeah, so yeah, but essentially their conversation was just kind
Speaker 1: of like, yeah, like having a friend there to comfort
Speaker 1: you and be like you deserve you deserve this, deserve
Speaker 1: to be in love, which I'm sure.
Speaker 3: Helps, I think so. And what Joan kind of broke
Speaker 3: down for Nancy for each guy, her like main thing
Speaker 3: was guy is further along than Joan is, which I
Speaker 3: think we've kind of seen. Yeah, I personally think that
Speaker 3: can be detrimental if it's the girl is further along
Speaker 3: than the guy is. I feel like that dynamic doesn't
Speaker 3: all usually doesn't play out great. But if the guy
Speaker 3: is further along than the girl is, there's still potential
Speaker 3: for the girl to catch up in the dating world.
Speaker 2: Yeah, both on and off the show.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 2: Well, like, let's example it between you and I.
Speaker 3: If I was really into you and you were like,
Speaker 3: this girl is way more into me than I am
Speaker 3: into him, I don't think. I don't think we would
Speaker 3: have worked out, Okay, but if you were more into me,
Speaker 3: I think we still would have had a chance. Luckily,
Speaker 3: we were equally into each other. But this is just
Speaker 3: an example.
Speaker 1: Okay, So you're saying there's still a chance.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm saying there's still a shows I was going.
Speaker 1: To say, I think Guy and Chock are both equally like.
Speaker 1: I would say they're both more into Joan than she
Speaker 1: might be into them.
Speaker 2: Yeah, she's keeping our cards close to her chest, for sure.
Speaker 3: And then she tells Nancy that Pascal reminds her of
Speaker 3: her late husband John, which she said multiple times, so
Speaker 3: we do know that, and that he's the most guarded one.
Speaker 3: I don't know if I really have seen him be guarded,
Speaker 3: but it's definitely been mentioned multiple times.
Speaker 1: I think I don't know if I mean, well, we okay,
Speaker 1: so spoiler, you know, we see that Pascal leaves.
Speaker 2: Yeah, fake spoiler, fake spoiler.
Speaker 1: I guess he happens at the end of the episode,
Speaker 1: but we see that he leaves, and I don't think it.
Speaker 1: I think the guarded thing is kind of bullshit. I
Speaker 1: just really think it's the case of like's not he's
Speaker 1: just not that into.
Speaker 3: You, and I think it moved faster than what he
Speaker 3: was ready for. Yeah, but we can break that down
Speaker 3: more on his one on one And then Chalk, she
Speaker 3: says he's too good to be true, which I feel
Speaker 3: like is usually a cop out that the leads say
Speaker 3: when they're looking for a problem with a relationship but
Speaker 3: there isn't one. Like, I feel like Chalk and Joan
Speaker 3: haven't really had any actual issues and she doesn't have
Speaker 3: any major concerns with him, And I feel like when
Speaker 3: that's the case, the default is like, is it too
Speaker 3: good to be true?
Speaker 1: Yeah? And I think that's I think that it's fair
Speaker 1: at any age, because I could see people being like, well,
Speaker 1: you know, at at Joan's stage in life, like to
Speaker 1: you know, it's probably unimaginable to find someone who is
Speaker 1: like checks all the boxes and is absolutely perfect.
Speaker 2: Especially when she feels like she had that already.
Speaker 3: She's probably like, am I really gonna find this twice
Speaker 3: in my life?
Speaker 1: But I mean maybe, Joan, you're lucky.
Speaker 3: I also just like, you can find a problem with anyone.
Speaker 3: Let's stick a little deeper. I'm sure we could find
Speaker 3: a concern here. Yeah, let's let's let's look for one.
Speaker 3: I bet you it's there. There's a you can always
Speaker 3: find a concern with someone that you're dating. Yeah, there's
Speaker 3: never no concern. It's never too good to be true
Speaker 3: on paper, emotionally or something.
Speaker 2: There's something in the.
Speaker 3: Mix that we can stress ourselves out about inspiral about
Speaker 3: we just.
Speaker 1: I don't know what you're saying right now, but.
Speaker 3: You know what I'm saying, Oh joking, joking, never mind,
Speaker 3: but do you know what I mean?
Speaker 1: Yeah? I agree, I agree.
Speaker 2: Not everyone is no one is too good to be true.
Speaker 1: Yeah, not everyone's perfect. Like there's gonna be things that
Speaker 1: you like disagree on or something, or you're like this
Speaker 1: is I can't.
Speaker 3: Believe this, yeah yeah, or like you know, this is
Speaker 3: an ideal and that's my concern.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 2: First date we have is guy boat date.
Speaker 3: Yeah, pretty similar vibes to the hometown. They're on the water,
Speaker 3: they're on a boat, they do some snorkeling.
Speaker 1: Yeah. Yeah, I'm just trying to like really be like, Okay,
Speaker 1: she's saying everything that Joan's saying is making me feel
Speaker 1: like she really is enamored and in love with guy.
Speaker 1: But when I watch them, something seems to be missing.
Speaker 3: Right, Yeah, I agree, it is feeling and looking like
Speaker 3: he's more into her than she.
Speaker 1: It could also just be that she's torn. She's in
Speaker 1: love with multiple guys and she doesn't want to.
Speaker 2: Like go all in and hurt someone's feelings.
Speaker 1: One.
Speaker 3: Like I said, I think she's holding her cards pretty
Speaker 3: close to her chest across the board with all three
Speaker 3: of these relationships, and you know we see that when
Speaker 3: you know Pascal leaves, she was more upset than I
Speaker 3: think I expected her to.
Speaker 1: Be for sure.
Speaker 2: So they seem to have a really fun, nice day. Yeah,
Speaker 2: it was just nice.
Speaker 1: It was nice.
Speaker 3: You know, there wasn't really anything heavy or dramatic or controversial.
Speaker 3: It's just a really nice day. No.
Speaker 1: And then at the the cocktail portion of it, of
Speaker 1: the dinner portion, she invites him into overnight but tells
Speaker 1: him like, hey, but we're not going to be intimate.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 1: Do you think they're like at least like making out.
Speaker 2: I think they're definitely making out.
Speaker 1: So this is a makeout session.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I think they're just chatting and kissing.
Speaker 1: What do you think? What do you think the heavy
Speaker 1: questions are when they get into that room, Like how
Speaker 1: do you see this working outside here?
Speaker 2: Yeah?
Speaker 1: Probably?
Speaker 2: I mean I think every.
Speaker 3: I would love to compare the lead's fantasy speed experiences,
Speaker 3: Like I feel like every lead kind of goes in
Speaker 3: handling it different. Yeah, And I think it also depends
Speaker 3: on like where their feelings are at for that person,
Speaker 3: And there's like a lot of different factors, But I
Speaker 3: would assume the conversations are like financial situation. He's working
Speaker 3: but going to be retiring soon, Like logistically when is
Speaker 3: he retiring? They live on opposite sides of the country, Ish,
Speaker 3: how are we making that work?
Speaker 1: That's a big problem. The living opposite opposite sides of
Speaker 1: the country. Three hour time change, yeah, big, big, big.
Speaker 3: Deal, big deal. But I mean they could also like
Speaker 3: be by coastal. They could do is Lake like his
Speaker 3: Tahoe place for four months of the year, and then
Speaker 3: new where she's New Jersey.
Speaker 1: She's not New Jersey.
Speaker 2: I think she is Maryland, Maryland, Okay, But.
Speaker 1: Every time I see her, I think she's from like Berkeley.
Speaker 3: Where's that California, California. She looks like a California girl. Yeah,
Speaker 3: And then they could do, you know, like the rest
Speaker 3: of the year in Maryland.
Speaker 2: Like she seems from when we've.
Speaker 3: Talked to her, she seems open to an unconventional situation
Speaker 3: where they don't just like pick a place move in together.
Speaker 3: Because I think she is aware that she doesn't want
Speaker 3: to sacrifice her family, and she doesn't want to force
Speaker 3: someone to sacrifice everything is.
Speaker 1: The most important thing.
Speaker 2: That family is the most iportant thing to Joan, don't
Speaker 2: forget it.
Speaker 1: Uh, okay, so this date, this date's fine, it ends.
Speaker 2: Was there a morning after interview?
Speaker 3: Did they show them the next morning, like waking up cuddling, Like, oh, then, I.
Speaker 1: Was, I don't think so.
Speaker 3: I don't think so either. I was just like, did
Speaker 3: I like disassociate what's going on.
Speaker 1: Leaving this date? Though? I'm not like, I wouldn't be.
Speaker 1: I guess I wouldn't be shocked either way, Like if
Speaker 1: she if she chose guy, I wouldn't be like I
Speaker 1: can't believe she chose him, and if she doesn't choose
Speaker 1: I'm like, yeah, it's all that also makes sense.
Speaker 2: Yeah, she kind of which is probably not a good sign. No,
Speaker 2: it's probably not. It's probably not a good sign.
Speaker 3: But I get what you're saying, Like she's saying all
Speaker 3: the things that like she should be saying about him
Speaker 3: at this point. I just don't think like we're really
Speaker 3: seeing that like emotion there yet.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 3: But I think he's all in on her and he's
Speaker 3: very sweet with her, and I like him.
Speaker 2: I like them together. I think it's great.
Speaker 1: Next up, we have chock. Now Chock, we see Chock
Speaker 1: talking to Jesse Palmer and he's basically like, I'm ready,
Speaker 1: I'm getting down on one knee. I love her, like
Speaker 1: Chock is, Chock's been all in. I think he's been
Speaker 1: all in since Disneyland. Truly, Chock has been all in
Speaker 1: since the Teacups.
Speaker 2: I think you're right for sure. I think you're right.
Speaker 2: He's been smitten since State one.
Speaker 3: And we said it like he wouldn't have come back
Speaker 3: after his mom passed if he was not pretty like
Speaker 3: all in on this ground.
Speaker 1: Yeah, which which yeah, I guess also is I don't
Speaker 1: want to use that as like being like, oh, that's
Speaker 1: an advantage to Chock, but it it definitely. I think
Speaker 1: that helped Joan be more comfortable with like falling for Chock,
Speaker 1: knowing that like he is really into her.
Speaker 3: No, I agree, I think I know what you mean
Speaker 3: by saying it's an advantage. I mean, the situation of
Speaker 3: losing his mom was incredibly tragic and sad, but it
Speaker 3: did strengthen their bond and their relationship and was able.
Speaker 3: They were able to overcome something together and he was
Speaker 3: able to lean on her, and that definitely builds a bond.
Speaker 3: But yeah, Chalk is like kind of the dream in
Speaker 3: this situation, guy is feeling this way too, But like
Speaker 3: Chalk is literally saying it be.
Speaker 2: Like, I am marrying this woman. I'm proposing to her.
Speaker 2: I am all in.
Speaker 3: Like he has no hesitations, Like he doesn't feel like
Speaker 3: it's too fast.
Speaker 2: He's like, this is it?
Speaker 1: But what do we think, Joan? Like, what are we
Speaker 1: seeing on the state? What do we think Joan? How
Speaker 1: do we think Joan feels about him?
Speaker 2: I think she feels really good. She you know, they
Speaker 2: were ATVing, it was very fun.
Speaker 1: She feels very safe with him.
Speaker 3: She feels safe with him. Joan definitely is looking to
Speaker 3: live a certain kind of life after this, and she
Speaker 3: is looking for a partner that also wants to live
Speaker 3: like an exciting, adventurous life.
Speaker 1: Okay, but I do think I do think all three
Speaker 1: of those guys fit.
Speaker 2: That bell I agree, I agree, But I admire her
Speaker 2: for that.
Speaker 3: Yeah, Like she's obviously been very selective through this process
Speaker 3: because all three of her final three guys kind of
Speaker 3: fall into that same bracket right where they like are
Speaker 3: adventurous and they want to travel and they have you know,
Speaker 3: the freedom and the means to do so. Yeah, but
Speaker 3: the day goes great. I mean they're very smitt with
Speaker 3: each other. Chalk is also just like he's Goshi and
Speaker 3: he wears his heart on his sleeve, and I think
Speaker 3: it brings up the emotion of Joan a little bit
Speaker 3: more than we see with guys.
Speaker 1: Their body language is just much it's just there. Yeah,
Speaker 1: it's just it's just it's just much stronger.
Speaker 2: It seems like, Yeah, the body language does feel stronger.
Speaker 1: I feel like, yeah, we see Chock, Yeah it is.
Speaker 1: I guess like the word smitten makes sense because like
Speaker 1: when he's like you could see Chuck like gazing into
Speaker 1: her eyes and it's just kind of like I'm in love.
Speaker 2: And he's the only one.
Speaker 3: I feel like we really see her like make out
Speaker 3: with Like they kind of started like making out a
Speaker 3: few times.
Speaker 1: Yeah. Well, I think they all make I think they
Speaker 1: all make out. We just may not see it as well.
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's true. That's true. They do fantasy suites.
Speaker 1: Let me ask you this hypothetical. If she is going
Speaker 1: to choose Chok or she is going to choose guy,
Speaker 1: do you think she does hick up with them?
Speaker 2: I don't think so, you do.
Speaker 3: I think that's very possible that it's happened in the past,
Speaker 3: where people are like nothing happened and nothing's gonna happen. Yeah,
Speaker 3: where things have gone down because like you'll just never know,
Speaker 3: you know. And also people have the right to their privacy.
Speaker 3: We also said that was Zach. Really Zach didn't need
Speaker 3: to come out and be like we boned, Yeah it happened,
Speaker 3: Like he could have just kept.
Speaker 2: That to himself, like there's no mics or cameras, no
Speaker 2: one would have known.
Speaker 1: Yeah, So I think, I mean, yeah, I.
Speaker 2: Think she's standing by it. I feel like she wouldn't
Speaker 2: have said it. She's giving like she would like they're sixty,
Speaker 2: like who cares.
Speaker 3: Like if they don't want to do something, they're not
Speaker 3: gonna do And if they want to do something, I
Speaker 3: feel like they're just gonna say it and they're gonna
Speaker 3: do it.
Speaker 1: Yeah. But I would say, after all, after overnights with
Speaker 1: Overnight with Chok, and after watching this date, I feel
Speaker 1: pretty strongly that they're good.
Speaker 3: Right Yeah, oh yeah, they're in a good place for sure,
Speaker 3: and they had the cute little morning after.
Speaker 1: Yep, there's really no there's no doubt, like the only
Speaker 1: there's no doubt in Joan, But I are in chock,
Speaker 1: but I will see then seeing her the Pascal day,
Speaker 1: and she was She's was way more in the Pascal
Speaker 1: than I thought. She was.
Speaker 2: Me too, me too.
Speaker 3: I was like, oh wow, she like And for a
Speaker 3: while I was like, is the only thing that is
Speaker 3: kind of pulling her to Pascal that feeling of familiarity
Speaker 3: because he reminds her of her her husband?
Speaker 1: Or do you or is there anything like Pascal's playing
Speaker 1: a little close to his chest. He's playing a little
Speaker 1: hard to get and that makes Joan maybe want him
Speaker 1: a little more because he's the only guy out of
Speaker 1: these Out of these three, Pascal is the only guy
Speaker 1: kind of like, eh, I'm not sure yet.
Speaker 2: Yeah, but he's still like schmoozing her.
Speaker 1: That's the that's that's where it becomes like she gets
Speaker 1: a little in her head like is he into me
Speaker 1: or it isn't? And then it becomes more of a
Speaker 1: game and.
Speaker 2: Ye, it's a little psychological.
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, I know it's fun fun to watch.
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, I love you Pascal.
Speaker 3: But he he definitely was freaked out and she says
Speaker 3: like I hope that it goes great and that he's
Speaker 3: going to be meeting my family next week. Like, so
Speaker 3: she definitely went in with the hopes that I think
Speaker 3: she was thinking like there was a chance it was
Speaker 3: going to be him going to next week. And I
Speaker 3: think that her body language with Pascal is really good.
Speaker 1: Talking through a burb No, I'm not, I'm not Jesus,
Speaker 1: go ahead.
Speaker 2: No, Eve embarrassed. No, that was that was kind of it.
Speaker 1: Don't worry, I talked through my person.
Speaker 2: I'm not talking.
Speaker 1: But yeah, I mean, yeah, we see him get freaked out.
Speaker 1: I think I think for Pascal he is using a
Speaker 1: lot of excuses. He's guarded. Now. We hear that he
Speaker 1: was in like this past relationship and it just ended
Speaker 1: a year ago. But for me watching it, it just
Speaker 1: really seems like and he kind of confirms that he's
Speaker 1: just like not He says it like I'm not here.
Speaker 1: I'm not there, like when you're in love you should
Speaker 1: feel that spark. He's like a Frenchman like I want
Speaker 1: to like really be swept off my feet and he's
Speaker 1: just not getting that.
Speaker 3: Yeah, And he even said, you know, the date was
Speaker 3: a lot of like feelings and emotions and it felt
Speaker 3: like Sarah and he was like in his interview, he's
Speaker 3: like whoa, whoa whoa Like I thought we were just
Speaker 3: going to be playing around, acting like kids.
Speaker 2: I have to talk about my feelings.
Speaker 3: It's like Pascal, like you are on the Bachelor, like
Speaker 3: you do like an engagement is right around the corner,
Speaker 3: like this can't be fun for forever. But at the
Speaker 3: same time, I just think that's where his emotions fell
Speaker 3: with Joan, Like he just liked to have like a flirty,
Speaker 3: fun relationship with her, and I feel like the date
Speaker 3: made him realize, like, hey, he's not ready. But b
Speaker 3: I just don't think like he had that like strength
Speaker 3: of feelings for Jones to where he was in love
Speaker 3: with her.
Speaker 1: To be honest, I'm surprised there wasn't more guys that were.
Speaker 2: Like that, that were like I like you.
Speaker 1: As a friend, yeah, or just just I would say,
Speaker 1: unprepared of how fast things move on this show.
Speaker 3: I think there was probably a lot of guys that
Speaker 3: felt that way but they went home.
Speaker 1: Yeah. I guess else.
Speaker 3: I think everyone when you go on the show is
Speaker 3: a little bit shell shocked by.
Speaker 2: The pace of it.
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's why it's always I guess it's I guess
Speaker 1: it's more shocking when when you have people like Chalk
Speaker 1: and Guy who are like, yeah, am.
Speaker 3: That's more shocking to me, like the Chalks and the
Speaker 3: Dowtons of the world that are like week six, like
Speaker 3: I'm so down.
Speaker 2: To propose to this person.
Speaker 3: Yeah, because I feel like I remember getting to hometowns
Speaker 3: and being like, there's not that much time left here,
Speaker 3: Like how did we get here? This moved super fast?
Speaker 3: But yeah, it's just about being intentional, and I feel
Speaker 3: like Chalk and Guy are very intentional with their time
Speaker 3: with her.
Speaker 1: How do we feel about Jones's reaction to the breakup.
Speaker 3: I think she was more upset than I expected her
Speaker 3: to be, but I also think it showed how much
Speaker 3: she cared for Pascal. I do think there was a
Speaker 3: good chance that it was going to be Chalk in Pascal,
Speaker 3: had Pascal been able to kind of let down his
Speaker 3: walls and commit emotionally to the relationship.
Speaker 2: I mean, he was pretty direct with her.
Speaker 3: He basically said, I care about your friends, but I'm
Speaker 3: not in love with you and I need that spark
Speaker 3: and I just don't have it with you.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I know he was direct. Yeah, he was directed.
Speaker 1: You know it. It's romanticized a little bit with the
Speaker 1: French accent, but but if that guy talked like me.
Speaker 1: That was fucking direct.
Speaker 3: Yeah, which honestly I think is like kind of the
Speaker 3: best way to handle a breakup.
Speaker 1: I think it's the best way too. But it's definitely
Speaker 1: not easy to.
Speaker 2: Be kind dry with me. Just tell me you don't
Speaker 2: like me and leave me alone.
Speaker 1: And no, I don't want to say like Joan has
Speaker 1: a big ego bite, No, I don't. I don't think that,
Speaker 1: But I do think there's something about being the lead,
Speaker 1: being essentially the star in in the ara, like the
Speaker 1: main attraction of why everyone's there. So I believe I
Speaker 1: think it's a little shocking in the moment of like,
Speaker 1: oh wait, you're not into You're not into me? Like
Speaker 1: what like this is? That's not how this works.
Speaker 3: I've always wanted to lead because you know, it happens
Speaker 3: usually every season someone sends themselves home, you know, and
Speaker 3: I feel like in earlier on it's like easier. It's
Speaker 3: still hard, but it's easier, but like final three on,
Speaker 3: like that's really you've gotten deep, you know. Yeah, I
Speaker 3: would love it if Joan was like I was actually
Speaker 3: going to send you home.
Speaker 2: I'm not into you. I don't feel to spark with you.
Speaker 3: Like they always are so mature about him, Like someone
Speaker 3: just like freak out and throw it back in their face.
Speaker 2: That would have been like, if that's what you would
Speaker 2: have done.
Speaker 1: If Joan would have just like.
Speaker 2: Like I was going to send you home space, she.
Speaker 1: Just like collected her thoughts kind of just been like
Speaker 1: could I have a moment walk off, come back like
Speaker 1: five minutes later and be like, Pascal, I just want
Speaker 1: to let you know that, like I just don't see
Speaker 1: it with us. I would have would have been unbelievable.
Speaker 2: That would have been crazy, though, because he just broke
Speaker 2: up with him.
Speaker 1: Yeah, that he would have been so shocked, and she'd
Speaker 1: have been like, so, unfortunately I can't take you.
Speaker 3: To overnights and you have to know that's maniac behavior. Yes,
Speaker 3: that's back in his face.
Speaker 1: Yeah, that would be great, Like, yeah, unfortunately, it's just
Speaker 1: not you.
Speaker 2: Unfortunately, it's just not you. I'm gonna have to send
Speaker 2: you home. He's like, well, I just told you I
Speaker 2: didn't like you.
Speaker 1: Both ads of that. That would be so funny.
Speaker 2: That would be funny.
Speaker 3: Unfortunately, Joan is a little too mature and a little
Speaker 3: too sane to act that way.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's unfortunate.
Speaker 3: But yeah, you could tell Pascal felt really badly. I
Speaker 3: mean he said I've hurt her, and I feel terrible
Speaker 3: about that. Honestly, Pascal is giving like diva energy in
Speaker 3: this moment and the best way. Like he's like shoving
Speaker 3: cameras like get these out of my face, like hugging Joan,
Speaker 3: like shielding her face, like don't look at us, like taking.
Speaker 1: Her away's heart, give.
Speaker 2: Her a second.
Speaker 3: Like it's just giving like diva energy, and I love
Speaker 3: all difficult for coat, like they're on a boat, like
Speaker 3: it's sexy.
Speaker 2: It was good.
Speaker 3: It was a really good It was a good breakup scene.
Speaker 3: As much as I was sad for Joan, I don't
Speaker 3: think Pascal was like her one and only. So there's
Speaker 3: still hope that you know, she's going to be able
Speaker 3: to find love with Chalk and God. I so like
Speaker 3: we can kind of we can't enjoy the drama of
Speaker 3: it all.
Speaker 1: Yeah, So yeah, I mean that that's kind of that's
Speaker 1: Pascal's gone and.
Speaker 2: It's basically already.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I know, I wouldn't hate so great. I wouldn't
Speaker 1: hate him as the Golden Bachelor. I wouldn't hate.
Speaker 2: It, not at all, not at all. I wouldn't hate it.
Speaker 1: Actually, he's going to act like this like great.
Speaker 3: One hundred percent. So we need to bring back a
Speaker 3: little drama. This season was so good, but it was
Speaker 3: very drama free, which you know, it's it's a wholesome
Speaker 3: season with it being golden men women.
Speaker 1: I mean, it's not going to stay like that, you know,
Speaker 1: first Golden first Golden Bachelorette.
Speaker 3: It's it's gonna get some people who want to want
Speaker 3: to fight, you want to shove the cameras out others.
Speaker 1: Get a real housewife in there, exactly.
Speaker 3: Get some more French people because honestly, Pascal was.
Speaker 1: A treat French version. Yeah, so guy or chock? Guy
Speaker 1: a chock? Who? Who are you thinking? I mean, she
Speaker 1: seems a little torn up in the trailer. There's gonna
Speaker 1: be terrors. What do you think? I mean? I mean, well, so.
Speaker 3: We do you think she's gonna get engaged? Because I
Speaker 3: feel like she hasn't talked at all about engagement. She's
Speaker 3: talked a lot about finding someone and falling in love,
Speaker 3: but I haven't really heard her talk about engagement at all.
Speaker 1: Well, she's going to get engaged, I would think it
Speaker 1: would be to chock because Chock is ready for an engagement.
Speaker 1: If she doesn't get is.
Speaker 2: Like calling Neil Lane being like bring the rings. I'm
Speaker 2: getting down on when.
Speaker 1: Poni, I don't know how ready guy is and he's
Speaker 1: you know, we see, we see.
Speaker 2: He's all in. I just don't know if he's like engagement.
Speaker 1: Yeah. And we also seemed like his you know, when
Speaker 1: he had his hometowns, he was they talked about how
Speaker 1: he was hurt and YadA, YadA, YadA. Uh so he
Speaker 1: may not be ready to do that. Oh and these
Speaker 1: guys also still have to meet Jones family. Yeah, I
Speaker 1: forget that could play a big part. Like I mean
Speaker 1: if the kids have like a big issue with one
Speaker 1: of the.
Speaker 3: Guys, Yeah, I sctually didn't think about that. That's very true.
Speaker 3: Like if they come in it feels like Chalk is
Speaker 3: maybe like a step ahead of Guy right now for sure.
Speaker 2: But if the kids come in and.
Speaker 3: Are like, we're not into that dude, and we love Guy,
Speaker 3: that could very well sway things.
Speaker 2: I mean, you can't like not take your kids into consideration.
Speaker 1: Yeah, and we know that Joan does do that.
Speaker 2: Yeah, she's big on family. It's all about family.
Speaker 1: Yeah, so that could definitely that that could definitely be
Speaker 1: a factor.
Speaker 3: Do you think either of these guys could be the
Speaker 3: next Golden Bachelor?
Speaker 1: Chock?
Speaker 2: Yeah, you don't think I could be.
Speaker 3: No, I kind of want like like promos of Guy
Speaker 3: and like a white er coat and like a step scope.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean I could definitely see that.
Speaker 2: My I'll catch it if he makes your heart skip
Speaker 2: a beat.
Speaker 1: My problem with Guy is he's a little hard to read.
Speaker 2: And he is harder to read.
Speaker 3: I don't and so is Joan, which is I feel
Speaker 3: like why we're having a harder time like unpacking their
Speaker 3: relationship than Chalk and Joan.
Speaker 2: Chalk is very easy to read.
Speaker 1: He's very direct, exactly, And I think for for the lead,
Speaker 1: especially the Bachelor, I think you want them to be
Speaker 1: easy to read, and I think you want to see
Speaker 1: them fall from multiple people. I don't need you to
Speaker 1: be you know, before you step into overnights telling the
Speaker 1: world that nothing's going to go down and like this
Speaker 1: is really job.
Speaker 2: We can't have a lead that's not going to sleep.
Speaker 1: It's not about that, it's not about that. Just don't
Speaker 1: talk about it. I just don't want to know. You know.
Speaker 1: It's a surprise.
Speaker 2: Yeah, Yeah, it's a surprise, but yeah.
Speaker 1: We'll see, we'll see what ends up happening. We'll see
Speaker 1: what ends up happening with these with these two at
Speaker 1: the end, and.
Speaker 3: Mental all next week, so be sure to tune into that.
Speaker 3: All your favorite men reunited and we're gonna have our
Speaker 3: fun speed dating interview coming out on that in two parts,
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Speaker 3: that and.
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