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Speaker 1: Hey, everyone, welcome back to Better Happy Hour.

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Speaker 2: I'm Joe and I'm Serena.

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Speaker 1: We are here too. Recap Fantasy Sweets, Overnights, Fantasy Sweets.

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Speaker 3: Overnights, Yes, yes, Fantasy Sweets and Overnight one and the same.

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Speaker 1: What did you think overall?

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Speaker 2: I thought it was good.

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Speaker 3: I feel like Fantasy Sweets is usually a very juicy episode.

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Speaker 3: I wouldn't say this was that juicy because the physicality

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Speaker 3: of it all kind of stayed out of the picture.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, because we didn't have Teresa there. Do you remember

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Speaker 1: Gary and Teresa's Fantasy Sweets?

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Speaker 2: I do.

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Speaker 3: That was juicy, that awesome, and she was in like

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Speaker 3: a little wrong for and she looks so cute and

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Speaker 3: they yeah, I liked.

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Speaker 1: That's when they knew. That's when they knew that this

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Speaker 1: show is going to get renewed.

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Speaker 2: When Gary was going around doing all this Fantasy Sweets.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, like this is this is good. We got

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Speaker 1: something here.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, well, a little less juicy this season, but also

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Speaker 3: totally respectable.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, Joe made the decision to.

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Speaker 3: Not bring the physical intimacy into any of her relationships.

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Speaker 1: Okay, so well we're obviously we're gonna break down the

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Speaker 1: whole episode but I do want to comment on that

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Speaker 1: at up top. Yeah, sure, great, wonderful, lovely, lovely, lovely

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Speaker 1: thing to say. But if you're gonna do that, in

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Speaker 1: my opinion, just keep it to yourself because it takes

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Speaker 1: away the fun for.

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Speaker 3: Us of wondering like did they get freaky?

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Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, like this is like late, let's not forget

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Speaker 1: this is the reality TV and I want my reality

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Speaker 1: television to be a little messy. And when you do

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Speaker 1: that up front, like that's essentially what she did was

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Speaker 1: what Zach Shallcross tried.

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Speaker 2: To do and yeah and fail immediately failed.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, which was great, great, and much more enjoy as

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Speaker 3: a viewer that he did fail at that task.

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Speaker 1: And like, I totally respect her doing that, And like,

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Speaker 1: if I'm the guy that she picks at the end

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Speaker 1: and I watch that, it would make me feel so

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Speaker 1: much more secure. So I get it. I do get it.

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Speaker 1: It is probably the right decision, but selfishly, as a viewer,

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Speaker 1: I don't need that shit in my world.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, it's definitely a conversation that could be had in

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Speaker 3: the fantasy speed, like once the cameras are gone, just

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Speaker 3: being like, hey, before you try to jump my bones,

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Speaker 3: I'm just letting you know that's not going to happen tonight, yeah,

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Speaker 3: or just like opening the floor to like, you know

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Speaker 3: where the boundaries are at, but let me speculate. But

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Speaker 3: the thing is that she said it because she didn't

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Speaker 3: want us to speculate, you know, she wanted us to

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Speaker 3: know she has viewers that like that was her intention.

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Speaker 1: Calculated, smart move. But yeah, said, Okay, So where are they.

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Speaker 3: They're in Tahiti and they are living it up on

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Speaker 3: a cruise ship, which we haven't seen since Gabby and

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Speaker 3: Rachel's season. This is a little different because they're living

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Speaker 3: on the cruise ship, but they're like going out to

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Speaker 3: land and doing things as well.

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Speaker 1: Who's first up?

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Speaker 2: First up?

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Speaker 3: We have, well, first up, we have a visit from Nancy, Yeah,

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Speaker 3: who we actually are going to be having as our

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Speaker 3: guests this week for an interview, so stay tuned for that.

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Speaker 2: But I love Nancy.

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Speaker 3: I actually forgot how much I love Nancy because we

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Speaker 3: haven't seen her face in a minute.

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Speaker 1: I keep saying that Nancy is the star of a

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Speaker 1: Nancy Meyers movie she has and I watch it and

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Speaker 1: I'm like, damn, Like, I think Joan was a great

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Speaker 1: Golden Bachelorette. But I would have also liked Nancy. I

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Speaker 1: was always like pro Nancy.

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Speaker 2: I agree, I agree if.

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Speaker 1: I wish she would have had I don't. I feel

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Speaker 1: like she didn't really have a big story when it

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Speaker 1: came to her and Gary. I think it was kind

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Speaker 1: of just like I don't even really remember it, to

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Speaker 3: Her and Gary didn't have much going on in terms

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Speaker 1: But I think if they did, she was definitely a contender.

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Speaker 2: Yeah.

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Speaker 3: Like, I think if it was a different Golden Bachelor

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Speaker 3: that did have a connection with Nancy, she would really

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Speaker 2: And she is so beautiful.

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Speaker 3: So if there is a Golden Bathroom Paradise, would love

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Speaker 3: to see.

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Speaker 2: Her on it.

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Speaker 1: I could also see a lot of these guys from

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Speaker 1: Joan season reaching out to Nancy.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, there's a lot of Golden women that I hope

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Speaker 3: get matched up with the Golden men.

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Speaker 1: Yeah.

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Speaker 2: Well see, that's the fun of it.

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Speaker 3: I'm waiting for like these like soft launches of the

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Speaker 3: golden relationships, Like what are those even going?

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Speaker 2: Do you think they know what a soft lunch is?

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Speaker 2: Probably not.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I think they got people that will help. I

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Speaker 1: think their kids will.

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Speaker 2: Help their kids will help.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, so yeah, but essentially their conversation was just kind

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Speaker 1: of like, yeah, like having a friend there to comfort

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Speaker 1: you and be like you deserve you deserve this, deserve

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Speaker 1: to be in love, which I'm sure.

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Speaker 3: Helps, I think so. And what Joan kind of broke

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Speaker 3: down for Nancy for each guy, her like main thing

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Speaker 3: was guy is further along than Joan is, which I

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Speaker 3: think we've kind of seen. Yeah, I personally think that

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Speaker 3: can be detrimental if it's the girl is further along

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Speaker 3: than the guy is. I feel like that dynamic doesn't

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Speaker 3: all usually doesn't play out great. But if the guy

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Speaker 3: is further along than the girl is, there's still potential

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Speaker 3: for the girl to catch up in the dating world.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, both on and off the show.

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Speaker 1: Yeah.

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Speaker 2: Well, like, let's example it between you and I.

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Speaker 3: If I was really into you and you were like,

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Speaker 3: this girl is way more into me than I am

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Speaker 3: into him, I don't think. I don't think we would

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Speaker 3: have worked out, Okay, but if you were more into me,

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Speaker 3: I think we still would have had a chance. Luckily,

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Speaker 3: we were equally into each other. But this is just

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Speaker 3: an example.

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Speaker 1: Okay, So you're saying there's still a chance.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm saying there's still a shows I was going.

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Speaker 1: To say, I think Guy and Chock are both equally like.

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Speaker 1: I would say they're both more into Joan than she

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Speaker 1: might be into them.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, she's keeping our cards close to her chest, for sure.

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Speaker 3: And then she tells Nancy that Pascal reminds her of

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Speaker 3: her late husband John, which she said multiple times, so

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Speaker 3: we do know that, and that he's the most guarded one.

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Speaker 3: I don't know if I really have seen him be guarded,

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Speaker 3: but it's definitely been mentioned multiple times.

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Speaker 1: I think I don't know if I mean, well, we okay,

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Speaker 1: so spoiler, you know, we see that Pascal leaves.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, fake spoiler, fake spoiler.

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Speaker 1: I guess he happens at the end of the episode,

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Speaker 1: but we see that he leaves, and I don't think it.

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Speaker 1: I think the guarded thing is kind of bullshit. I

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Speaker 1: just really think it's the case of like's not he's

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Speaker 3: You, and I think it moved faster than what he

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Speaker 3: was ready for. Yeah, but we can break that down

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Speaker 3: more on his one on one And then Chalk, she

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Speaker 3: says he's too good to be true, which I feel

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Speaker 3: like is usually a cop out that the leads say

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Speaker 3: when they're looking for a problem with a relationship but

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Speaker 3: there isn't one. Like, I feel like Chalk and Joan

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Speaker 1: Yeah? And I think that's I think that it's fair

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Speaker 1: at any age, because I could see people being like, well,

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Speaker 1: you know, at at Joan's stage in life, like to

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Speaker 1: you know, it's probably unimaginable to find someone who is

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Speaker 2: Especially when she feels like she had that already.

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Speaker 3: She's probably like, am I really gonna find this twice

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Speaker 1: But I mean maybe, Joan, you're lucky.

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Speaker 3: I also just like, you can find a problem with anyone.

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Speaker 3: Let's stick a little deeper. I'm sure we could find

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Speaker 3: a concern here. Yeah, let's let's let's look for one.

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Speaker 3: I bet you it's there. There's a you can always

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Speaker 3: find a concern with someone that you're dating. Yeah, there's

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Speaker 3: never no concern. It's never too good to be true

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Speaker 2: There's something in the.

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Speaker 3: Mix that we can stress ourselves out about inspiral about

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Speaker 3: we just.

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Speaker 1: I don't know what you're saying right now, but.

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Speaker 3: You know what I'm saying, Oh joking, joking, never mind,

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Speaker 3: but do you know what I mean?

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Speaker 1: Yeah? I agree, I agree.

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Speaker 2: Not everyone is no one is too good to be true.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, not everyone's perfect. Like there's gonna be things that

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Speaker 1: you like disagree on or something, or you're like this

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Speaker 1: is I can't.

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Speaker 3: Believe this, yeah yeah, or like you know, this is

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Speaker 3: an ideal and that's my concern.

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Speaker 1: Yeah.

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Speaker 2: First date we have is guy boat date.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, pretty similar vibes to the hometown. They're on the water,

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Speaker 3: they're on a boat, they do some snorkeling.

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Speaker 1: Yeah. Yeah, I'm just trying to like really be like, Okay,

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Speaker 1: she's saying everything that Joan's saying is making me feel

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Speaker 1: like she really is enamored and in love with guy.

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Speaker 1: But when I watch them, something seems to be missing.

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Speaker 3: Right, Yeah, I agree, it is feeling and looking like

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Speaker 3: he's more into her than she.

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Speaker 1: It could also just be that she's torn. She's in

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Speaker 2: Like go all in and hurt someone's feelings.

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Speaker 1: One.

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Speaker 3: Like I said, I think she's holding her cards pretty

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Speaker 3: of these relationships, and you know we see that when

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Speaker 3: you know Pascal leaves, she was more upset than I

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Speaker 3: think I expected her to.

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Speaker 1: Be for sure.

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Speaker 2: So they seem to have a really fun, nice day. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: it was just nice.

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Speaker 1: It was nice.

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Speaker 3: You know, there wasn't really anything heavy or dramatic or controversial.

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Speaker 3: It's just a really nice day. No.

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Speaker 1: And then at the the cocktail portion of it, of

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Speaker 1: the dinner portion, she invites him into overnight but tells

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Speaker 2: Yeah.

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Speaker 1: Do you think they're like at least like making out.

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Speaker 2: I think they're definitely making out.

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Speaker 1: So this is a makeout session.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I think they're just chatting and kissing.

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Speaker 1: What do you think? What do you think the heavy

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Speaker 1: questions are when they get into that room, Like how

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Speaker 1: do you see this working outside here?

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Speaker 2: Yeah?

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Speaker 1: Probably?

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Speaker 2: I mean I think every.

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Speaker 3: But I think he's all in on her and he's

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Speaker 2: I think you're right for sure. I think you're right.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, which which yeah, I guess also is I don't

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Speaker 3: No, I agree, I think I know what you mean

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Speaker 3: But yeah, Chalk is like kind of the dream in

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Speaker 3: Like he has no hesitations, Like he doesn't feel like

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Speaker 1: But what do we think, Joan? Like, what are we

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Speaker 2: I think she feels really good. She you know, they

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Speaker 3: She feels safe with him. Joan definitely is looking to

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Speaker 1: Okay, but I do think I do think all three

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Speaker 2: That bell I agree, I agree, But I admire her

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Speaker 3: Yeah, Like she's obviously been very selective through this process

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Speaker 1: Their body language is just much it's just there. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: it's just it's just it's just much stronger.

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Speaker 3: I feel like we really see her like make out

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Speaker 1: Yeah. Well, I think they all make I think they

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Speaker 1: Let me ask you this hypothetical. If she is going

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Speaker 2: I don't think so, you do.

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Speaker 3: We also said that was Zach. Really Zach didn't need

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Speaker 3: Like if they don't want to do something, they're not

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Speaker 1: Yeah. But I would say, after all, after overnights with

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Speaker 3: Right Yeah, oh yeah, they're in a good place for sure,

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Speaker 1: Yep, there's really no there's no doubt, like the only

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Speaker 1: but I will see then seeing her the Pascal day,

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Speaker 2: Me too, me too.

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Speaker 3: I was like, oh wow, she like And for a

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Speaker 1: That's the that's that's where it becomes like she gets

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Speaker 2: Ye, it's a little psychological.

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Speaker 3: But he he definitely was freaked out and she says

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Speaker 2: No, Eve embarrassed. No, that was that was kind of it.

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Speaker 1: I'm not there, like when you're in love you should

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Speaker 3: Yeah, And he even said, you know, the date was

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Speaker 3: It's like Pascal, like you are on the Bachelor, like

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Speaker 1: To be honest, I'm surprised there wasn't more guys that were.

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Speaker 1: As a friend, yeah, or just just I would say,

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Speaker 3: I think there was probably a lot of guys that

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Speaker 3: I think everyone when you go on the show is

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Speaker 1: and Guy who are like, yeah, am.

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00:21:12,560 --> 00:21:14,639
Speaker 3: That's more shocking to me, like the Chalks and the

447
00:21:14,680 --> 00:21:17,879
Speaker 3: Dowtons of the world that are like week six, like

448
00:21:18,000 --> 00:21:18,920
Speaker 3: I'm so down.

449
00:21:18,760 --> 00:21:19,959
Speaker 2: To propose to this person.

450
00:21:20,320 --> 00:21:25,320
Speaker 3: Yeah, because I feel like I remember getting to hometowns

451
00:21:25,320 --> 00:21:29,560
Speaker 3: and being like, there's not that much time left here,

452
00:21:29,640 --> 00:21:32,880
Speaker 3: Like how did we get here? This moved super fast?

453
00:21:34,720 --> 00:21:36,880
Speaker 3: But yeah, it's just about being intentional, and I feel

454
00:21:36,880 --> 00:21:39,160
Speaker 3: like Chalk and Guy are very intentional with their time

455
00:21:39,160 --> 00:21:39,439
Speaker 3: with her.

456
00:21:39,680 --> 00:21:44,320
Speaker 1: How do we feel about Jones's reaction to the breakup.

457
00:21:45,760 --> 00:21:48,040
Speaker 3: I think she was more upset than I expected her

458
00:21:48,080 --> 00:21:50,080
Speaker 3: to be, but I also think it showed how much

459
00:21:50,080 --> 00:21:51,879
Speaker 3: she cared for Pascal. I do think there was a

460
00:21:51,880 --> 00:21:54,359
Speaker 3: good chance that it was going to be Chalk in Pascal,

461
00:21:54,520 --> 00:21:56,280
Speaker 3: had Pascal been able to kind of let down his

462
00:21:56,359 --> 00:21:59,399
Speaker 3: walls and commit emotionally to the relationship.

463
00:22:01,160 --> 00:22:02,640
Speaker 2: I mean, he was pretty direct with her.

464
00:22:02,680 --> 00:22:04,560
Speaker 3: He basically said, I care about your friends, but I'm

465
00:22:04,600 --> 00:22:06,720
Speaker 3: not in love with you and I need that spark

466
00:22:06,720 --> 00:22:07,679
Speaker 3: and I just don't have it with you.

467
00:22:07,880 --> 00:22:09,920
Speaker 1: Yeah, I know he was direct. Yeah, he was directed.

468
00:22:10,200 --> 00:22:13,159
Speaker 1: You know it. It's romanticized a little bit with the

469
00:22:13,160 --> 00:22:16,240
Speaker 1: French accent, but but if that guy talked like me.

470
00:22:16,600 --> 00:22:17,760
Speaker 1: That was fucking direct.

471
00:22:17,920 --> 00:22:20,639
Speaker 3: Yeah, which honestly I think is like kind of the

472
00:22:20,640 --> 00:22:21,760
Speaker 3: best way to handle a breakup.

473
00:22:21,800 --> 00:22:23,720
Speaker 1: I think it's the best way too. But it's definitely

474
00:22:23,720 --> 00:22:24,199
Speaker 1: not easy to.

475
00:22:24,200 --> 00:22:25,720
Speaker 2: Be kind dry with me. Just tell me you don't

476
00:22:25,800 --> 00:22:27,640
Speaker 2: like me and leave me alone.

477
00:22:27,680 --> 00:22:29,840
Speaker 1: And no, I don't want to say like Joan has

478
00:22:29,840 --> 00:22:32,680
Speaker 1: a big ego bite, No, I don't. I don't think that,

479
00:22:32,920 --> 00:22:36,399
Speaker 1: But I do think there's something about being the lead,

480
00:22:37,359 --> 00:22:45,040
Speaker 1: being essentially the star in in the ara, like the

481
00:22:45,080 --> 00:22:50,560
Speaker 1: main attraction of why everyone's there. So I believe I

482
00:22:50,560 --> 00:22:53,600
Speaker 1: think it's a little shocking in the moment of like,

483
00:22:54,359 --> 00:22:57,520
Speaker 1: oh wait, you're not into You're not into me? Like

484
00:22:57,560 --> 00:22:59,879
Speaker 1: what like this is? That's not how this works.

485
00:23:00,000 --> 00:23:03,159
Speaker 3: I've always wanted to lead because you know, it happens

486
00:23:03,240 --> 00:23:06,359
Speaker 3: usually every season someone sends themselves home, you know, and

487
00:23:06,840 --> 00:23:09,240
Speaker 3: I feel like in earlier on it's like easier. It's

488
00:23:09,240 --> 00:23:12,640
Speaker 3: still hard, but it's easier, but like final three on,

489
00:23:12,880 --> 00:23:16,679
Speaker 3: like that's really you've gotten deep, you know. Yeah, I

490
00:23:16,720 --> 00:23:18,680
Speaker 3: would love it if Joan was like I was actually

491
00:23:18,720 --> 00:23:19,720
Speaker 3: going to send you home.

492
00:23:19,760 --> 00:23:22,160
Speaker 2: I'm not into you. I don't feel to spark with you.

493
00:23:22,440 --> 00:23:24,959
Speaker 3: Like they always are so mature about him, Like someone

494
00:23:25,040 --> 00:23:26,640
Speaker 3: just like freak out and throw it back in their face.

495
00:23:27,200 --> 00:23:28,720
Speaker 2: That would have been like, if that's what you would

496
00:23:28,720 --> 00:23:28,960
Speaker 2: have done.

497
00:23:29,080 --> 00:23:30,600
Speaker 1: If Joan would have just like.

498
00:23:32,280 --> 00:23:34,800
Speaker 2: Like I was going to send you home space, she.

499
00:23:34,880 --> 00:23:36,479
Speaker 1: Just like collected her thoughts kind of just been like

500
00:23:36,720 --> 00:23:40,159
Speaker 1: could I have a moment walk off, come back like

501
00:23:40,200 --> 00:23:43,000
Speaker 1: five minutes later and be like, Pascal, I just want

502
00:23:43,040 --> 00:23:45,000
Speaker 1: to let you know that, like I just don't see

503
00:23:45,000 --> 00:23:48,640
Speaker 1: it with us. I would have would have been unbelievable.

504
00:23:48,640 --> 00:23:51,240
Speaker 2: That would have been crazy, though, because he just broke

505
00:23:51,280 --> 00:23:51,680
Speaker 2: up with him.

506
00:23:51,720 --> 00:23:53,400
Speaker 1: Yeah, that he would have been so shocked, and she'd

507
00:23:53,400 --> 00:23:56,399
Speaker 1: have been like, so, unfortunately I can't take you.

508
00:23:56,440 --> 00:23:59,360
Speaker 3: To overnights and you have to know that's maniac behavior. Yes,

509
00:23:59,440 --> 00:24:00,840
Speaker 3: that's back in his face.

510
00:24:00,960 --> 00:24:04,119
Speaker 1: Yeah, that would be great, Like, yeah, unfortunately, it's just

511
00:24:04,160 --> 00:24:04,439
Speaker 1: not you.

512
00:24:04,720 --> 00:24:06,200
Speaker 2: Unfortunately, it's just not you. I'm gonna have to send

513
00:24:06,240 --> 00:24:07,720
Speaker 2: you home. He's like, well, I just told you I

514
00:24:07,760 --> 00:24:08,240
Speaker 2: didn't like you.

515
00:24:09,760 --> 00:24:11,760
Speaker 1: Both ads of that. That would be so funny.

516
00:24:11,920 --> 00:24:12,680
Speaker 2: That would be funny.

517
00:24:13,119 --> 00:24:15,200
Speaker 3: Unfortunately, Joan is a little too mature and a little

518
00:24:15,200 --> 00:24:16,760
Speaker 3: too sane to act that way.

519
00:24:17,000 --> 00:24:18,240
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's unfortunate.

520
00:24:19,000 --> 00:24:24,000
Speaker 3: But yeah, you could tell Pascal felt really badly. I

521
00:24:24,000 --> 00:24:25,720
Speaker 3: mean he said I've hurt her, and I feel terrible

522
00:24:25,720 --> 00:24:29,119
Speaker 3: about that. Honestly, Pascal is giving like diva energy in

523
00:24:29,160 --> 00:24:31,360
Speaker 3: this moment and the best way. Like he's like shoving

524
00:24:31,359 --> 00:24:34,440
Speaker 3: cameras like get these out of my face, like hugging Joan,

525
00:24:34,520 --> 00:24:38,320
Speaker 3: like shielding her face, like don't look at us, like taking.

526
00:24:38,040 --> 00:24:42,520
Speaker 1: Her away's heart, give.

527
00:24:41,320 --> 00:24:42,040
Speaker 2: Her a second.

528
00:24:42,119 --> 00:24:45,000
Speaker 3: Like it's just giving like diva energy, and I love

529
00:24:45,080 --> 00:24:48,879
Speaker 3: all difficult for coat, like they're on a boat, like

530
00:24:48,960 --> 00:24:50,040
Speaker 3: it's sexy.

531
00:24:50,240 --> 00:24:50,760
Speaker 2: It was good.

532
00:24:50,800 --> 00:24:52,840
Speaker 3: It was a really good It was a good breakup scene.

533
00:24:52,840 --> 00:24:54,120
Speaker 3: As much as I was sad for Joan, I don't

534
00:24:54,119 --> 00:24:57,040
Speaker 3: think Pascal was like her one and only. So there's

535
00:24:57,040 --> 00:24:58,760
Speaker 3: still hope that you know, she's going to be able

536
00:24:58,800 --> 00:25:01,359
Speaker 3: to find love with Chalk and God. I so like

537
00:25:01,400 --> 00:25:04,240
Speaker 3: we can kind of we can't enjoy the drama of

538
00:25:04,359 --> 00:25:04,680
Speaker 3: it all.

539
00:25:04,960 --> 00:25:08,400
Speaker 1: Yeah, So yeah, I mean that that's kind of that's

540
00:25:09,160 --> 00:25:10,520
Speaker 1: Pascal's gone and.

541
00:25:10,400 --> 00:25:11,960
Speaker 2: It's basically already.

542
00:25:12,240 --> 00:25:15,199
Speaker 1: Yeah, I know, I wouldn't hate so great. I wouldn't

543
00:25:15,240 --> 00:25:17,360
Speaker 1: hate him as the Golden Bachelor. I wouldn't hate.

544
00:25:17,160 --> 00:25:19,800
Speaker 2: It, not at all, not at all. I wouldn't hate it.

545
00:25:19,800 --> 00:25:22,280
Speaker 1: Actually, he's going to act like this like great.

546
00:25:22,960 --> 00:25:26,680
Speaker 3: One hundred percent. So we need to bring back a

547
00:25:26,720 --> 00:25:29,919
Speaker 3: little drama. This season was so good, but it was

548
00:25:30,040 --> 00:25:32,800
Speaker 3: very drama free, which you know, it's it's a wholesome

549
00:25:32,840 --> 00:25:36,240
Speaker 3: season with it being golden men women.

550
00:25:36,359 --> 00:25:38,199
Speaker 1: I mean, it's not going to stay like that, you know,

551
00:25:38,400 --> 00:25:40,639
Speaker 1: first Golden first Golden Bachelorette.

552
00:25:41,480 --> 00:25:44,639
Speaker 3: It's it's gonna get some people who want to want

553
00:25:44,680 --> 00:25:46,480
Speaker 3: to fight, you want to shove the cameras out others.

554
00:25:46,760 --> 00:25:49,720
Speaker 1: Get a real housewife in there, exactly.

555
00:25:50,119 --> 00:25:52,879
Speaker 3: Get some more French people because honestly, Pascal was.

556
00:25:52,880 --> 00:25:59,840
Speaker 1: A treat French version. Yeah, so guy or chock? Guy

557
00:25:59,840 --> 00:26:04,679
Speaker 1: a chock? Who? Who are you thinking? I mean, she

558
00:26:04,800 --> 00:26:10,840
Speaker 1: seems a little torn up in the trailer. There's gonna

559
00:26:10,840 --> 00:26:16,320
Speaker 1: be terrors. What do you think? I mean? I mean, well, so.

560
00:26:16,440 --> 00:26:18,119
Speaker 3: We do you think she's gonna get engaged? Because I

561
00:26:18,119 --> 00:26:21,000
Speaker 3: feel like she hasn't talked at all about engagement. She's

562
00:26:21,000 --> 00:26:22,800
Speaker 3: talked a lot about finding someone and falling in love,

563
00:26:22,800 --> 00:26:24,840
Speaker 3: but I haven't really heard her talk about engagement at all.

564
00:26:25,119 --> 00:26:27,359
Speaker 1: Well, she's going to get engaged, I would think it

565
00:26:27,400 --> 00:26:33,040
Speaker 1: would be to chock because Chock is ready for an engagement.

566
00:26:33,080 --> 00:26:34,840
Speaker 1: If she doesn't get is.

567
00:26:34,840 --> 00:26:37,080
Speaker 2: Like calling Neil Lane being like bring the rings. I'm

568
00:26:37,080 --> 00:26:37,880
Speaker 2: getting down on when.

569
00:26:38,160 --> 00:26:40,879
Speaker 1: Poni, I don't know how ready guy is and he's

570
00:26:41,000 --> 00:26:42,280
Speaker 1: you know, we see, we see.

571
00:26:42,119 --> 00:26:45,639
Speaker 2: He's all in. I just don't know if he's like engagement.

572
00:26:45,920 --> 00:26:48,080
Speaker 1: Yeah. And we also seemed like his you know, when

573
00:26:48,160 --> 00:26:54,040
Speaker 1: he had his hometowns, he was they talked about how

574
00:26:54,080 --> 00:26:58,120
Speaker 1: he was hurt and YadA, YadA, YadA. Uh so he

575
00:26:58,240 --> 00:27:01,440
Speaker 1: may not be ready to do that. Oh and these

576
00:27:01,440 --> 00:27:05,919
Speaker 1: guys also still have to meet Jones family. Yeah, I

577
00:27:05,960 --> 00:27:07,960
Speaker 1: forget that could play a big part. Like I mean

578
00:27:08,320 --> 00:27:10,320
Speaker 1: if the kids have like a big issue with one

579
00:27:10,320 --> 00:27:10,600
Speaker 1: of the.

580
00:27:10,560 --> 00:27:14,679
Speaker 3: Guys, Yeah, I sctually didn't think about that. That's very true.

581
00:27:14,960 --> 00:27:17,040
Speaker 3: Like if they come in it feels like Chalk is

582
00:27:17,080 --> 00:27:19,480
Speaker 3: maybe like a step ahead of Guy right now for sure.

583
00:27:19,880 --> 00:27:21,040
Speaker 2: But if the kids come in and.

584
00:27:21,000 --> 00:27:26,920
Speaker 3: Are like, we're not into that dude, and we love Guy,

585
00:27:27,119 --> 00:27:29,000
Speaker 3: that could very well sway things.

586
00:27:29,040 --> 00:27:31,560
Speaker 2: I mean, you can't like not take your kids into consideration.

587
00:27:32,440 --> 00:27:34,800
Speaker 1: Yeah, and we know that Joan does do that.

588
00:27:35,480 --> 00:27:37,680
Speaker 2: Yeah, she's big on family. It's all about family.

589
00:27:37,800 --> 00:27:40,439
Speaker 1: Yeah, so that could definitely that that could definitely be

590
00:27:40,480 --> 00:27:40,959
Speaker 1: a factor.

591
00:27:42,359 --> 00:27:44,480
Speaker 3: Do you think either of these guys could be the

592
00:27:44,520 --> 00:27:45,440
Speaker 3: next Golden Bachelor?

593
00:27:47,960 --> 00:27:48,200
Speaker 1: Chock?

594
00:27:48,920 --> 00:27:50,119
Speaker 2: Yeah, you don't think I could be.

595
00:27:52,600 --> 00:27:56,120
Speaker 3: No, I kind of want like like promos of Guy

596
00:27:56,400 --> 00:27:59,520
Speaker 3: and like a white er coat and like a step scope.

597
00:28:00,160 --> 00:28:01,600
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean I could definitely see that.

598
00:28:01,680 --> 00:28:03,840
Speaker 2: My I'll catch it if he makes your heart skip

599
00:28:03,880 --> 00:28:04,160
Speaker 2: a beat.

600
00:28:04,400 --> 00:28:09,159
Speaker 1: My problem with Guy is he's a little hard to read.

601
00:28:09,119 --> 00:28:10,280
Speaker 2: And he is harder to read.

602
00:28:10,440 --> 00:28:12,040
Speaker 3: I don't and so is Joan, which is I feel

603
00:28:12,080 --> 00:28:14,960
Speaker 3: like why we're having a harder time like unpacking their

604
00:28:15,119 --> 00:28:17,120
Speaker 3: relationship than Chalk and Joan.

605
00:28:17,480 --> 00:28:18,439
Speaker 2: Chalk is very easy to read.

606
00:28:18,480 --> 00:28:20,880
Speaker 1: He's very direct, exactly, And I think for for the lead,

607
00:28:20,960 --> 00:28:23,080
Speaker 1: especially the Bachelor, I think you want them to be

608
00:28:23,160 --> 00:28:25,040
Speaker 1: easy to read, and I think you want to see

609
00:28:25,040 --> 00:28:31,280
Speaker 1: them fall from multiple people. I don't need you to

610
00:28:31,400 --> 00:28:35,359
Speaker 1: be you know, before you step into overnights telling the

611
00:28:35,359 --> 00:28:37,280
Speaker 1: world that nothing's going to go down and like this

612
00:28:37,359 --> 00:28:39,800
Speaker 1: is really job.

613
00:28:40,320 --> 00:28:42,760
Speaker 2: We can't have a lead that's not going to sleep.

614
00:28:43,280 --> 00:28:45,160
Speaker 1: It's not about that, it's not about that. Just don't

615
00:28:45,200 --> 00:28:48,120
Speaker 1: talk about it. I just don't want to know. You know.

616
00:28:48,200 --> 00:28:48,920
Speaker 1: It's a surprise.

617
00:28:49,240 --> 00:28:51,400
Speaker 2: Yeah, Yeah, it's a surprise, but yeah.

618
00:28:51,320 --> 00:28:55,160
Speaker 1: We'll see, we'll see what ends up happening. We'll see

619
00:28:55,160 --> 00:28:57,840
Speaker 1: what ends up happening with these with these two at

620
00:28:57,840 --> 00:28:59,880
Speaker 1: the end, and.

621
00:29:00,200 --> 00:29:03,440
Speaker 3: Mental all next week, so be sure to tune into that.

622
00:29:03,600 --> 00:29:07,320
Speaker 3: All your favorite men reunited and we're gonna have our

623
00:29:07,840 --> 00:29:12,479
Speaker 3: fun speed dating interview coming out on that in two parts,

624
00:29:12,640 --> 00:29:15,040
Speaker 3: so you guys can you guys can stay tune for

625
00:29:15,120 --> 00:29:15,440
Speaker 3: that and.

626
00:29:15,440 --> 00:29:17,960
Speaker 1: Also our Nancy interview. Can't wait to talk to her.

627
00:29:18,800 --> 00:29:22,360
Speaker 1: And that's it everyone. Thank you so much for tuning

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Speaker 1: in to Betra Happy Hours.

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