1 00:00:00,280 --> 00:00:04,080 Speaker 1: Hello the Internet, and welcome to this episode of No Trend. 2 00:00:04,200 --> 00:00:04,760 Speaker 2: November. 3 00:00:05,240 --> 00:00:08,360 Speaker 1: Mmmm except for today. Except today, We're gonna We're gonna 4 00:00:08,360 --> 00:00:12,520 Speaker 1: try no trend. Yeah, I can't. I can't help myself, man, 5 00:00:12,880 --> 00:00:18,200 Speaker 1: you know. Shout out to to somebody. A large adult 6 00:00:18,320 --> 00:00:23,200 Speaker 1: adult son of Frankenstein tweeted, November sucks, can't shave, can't 7 00:00:23,280 --> 00:00:26,680 Speaker 1: not and you have to write fifty thousand word novel. 8 00:00:27,440 --> 00:00:33,040 Speaker 1: And somebody replied the Shining, which I guess. Yeah, anyways, 9 00:00:34,000 --> 00:00:37,360 Speaker 1: play is that? Yeah, benboy wors and well suited the Shining, 10 00:00:37,520 --> 00:00:39,760 Speaker 1: which I think that was the reference, wasn't it? 11 00:00:39,840 --> 00:00:42,120 Speaker 3: No beer, no TV? Make Homer go something. 12 00:00:41,880 --> 00:00:46,680 Speaker 2: Something something something something. I'm Jack, that's Miles. 13 00:00:46,320 --> 00:00:46,440 Speaker 1: Uh. 14 00:00:46,840 --> 00:00:52,920 Speaker 2: This is our first post Halloween recording. Yeah, how is 15 00:00:52,960 --> 00:00:53,599 Speaker 2: your Halloween? 16 00:00:53,640 --> 00:00:56,920 Speaker 4: Miles bro We took the Geist Child out dressed as 17 00:00:57,000 --> 00:01:00,640 Speaker 4: Fucking gray Goo or Grogu, the child from the Mandalorian 18 00:01:00,680 --> 00:01:03,600 Speaker 4: Baby Yoda. 19 00:01:04,600 --> 00:01:06,039 Speaker 3: No, I was. I was thinking about that. 20 00:01:06,080 --> 00:01:08,600 Speaker 4: I wanted this is to here's the thing I got 21 00:01:08,640 --> 00:01:11,160 Speaker 4: my first costume idea got vetoed by her majesty. 22 00:01:11,240 --> 00:01:14,280 Speaker 3: I wanted to be Quatto from Total people like. I 23 00:01:14,319 --> 00:01:14,759 Speaker 3: wanted to. 24 00:01:15,040 --> 00:01:17,920 Speaker 2: Get child like. Yeah, I wanted to wear your belly. 25 00:01:17,800 --> 00:01:19,960 Speaker 4: Exactly because I'm like, oh, you could use a carrier 26 00:01:20,000 --> 00:01:22,000 Speaker 4: and just kind of put like a skin colored shirt 27 00:01:22,000 --> 00:01:23,400 Speaker 4: over and cut it out and then he looked like 28 00:01:23,480 --> 00:01:24,840 Speaker 4: quatto just growing out of me. 29 00:01:25,120 --> 00:01:26,560 Speaker 2: Got across the belly. 30 00:01:26,640 --> 00:01:30,319 Speaker 4: Indeed, didn't like that one, so we went with Grogu. 31 00:01:31,000 --> 00:01:31,840 Speaker 3: But yeah, it was cool. 32 00:01:31,920 --> 00:01:35,080 Speaker 4: I I noticed some new someone gave handed out, was 33 00:01:35,080 --> 00:01:38,880 Speaker 4: handing on mister Beast branded candy like this is too much. 34 00:01:38,959 --> 00:01:41,640 Speaker 3: Yeah, and it was called uh D's Nuts. 35 00:01:41,959 --> 00:01:44,360 Speaker 2: Was one of the miles it was. 36 00:01:44,800 --> 00:01:46,480 Speaker 1: That's why I like such an old head. I was 37 00:01:46,480 --> 00:01:49,720 Speaker 1: like having a kid these days, this nonsense. Don't get 38 00:01:49,720 --> 00:01:51,480 Speaker 1: me started on their fucking work ethic. 39 00:01:51,680 --> 00:01:52,280 Speaker 2: Am I right? 40 00:01:52,880 --> 00:01:54,280 Speaker 3: I just want to lay down all day? 41 00:01:56,000 --> 00:01:56,960 Speaker 2: What did you? 42 00:01:57,000 --> 00:01:59,800 Speaker 1: So? You know, we had a lot of trigger treaters 43 00:01:59,800 --> 00:02:04,040 Speaker 1: as usual. As usual, I like, got a lot of candy, 44 00:02:04,160 --> 00:02:06,600 Speaker 1: and then by the end, I was like, just just handfuls, 45 00:02:06,720 --> 00:02:10,000 Speaker 1: just giving them handfuls. Just please just take the candy. 46 00:02:10,080 --> 00:02:13,960 Speaker 1: I need to I need to be done. But so 47 00:02:14,040 --> 00:02:16,920 Speaker 1: we got a lot of costumes through the house, and 48 00:02:17,000 --> 00:02:23,240 Speaker 1: the ghost Face from Scream. Yeah, the most popular Halloween 49 00:02:23,280 --> 00:02:26,200 Speaker 1: costume by a lot, I think, Oh wow. 50 00:02:26,240 --> 00:02:26,960 Speaker 2: Like by a lot. 51 00:02:27,080 --> 00:02:29,200 Speaker 1: I don't know if it's just an easy one or what, 52 00:02:29,520 --> 00:02:33,519 Speaker 1: but man, it like that Scream six really caught the 53 00:02:33,560 --> 00:02:34,880 Speaker 1: attention of the youth. 54 00:02:34,919 --> 00:02:36,800 Speaker 2: Then yeah, the uthe. 55 00:02:36,639 --> 00:02:39,720 Speaker 3: Them I saw, the youths I saw were so much. 56 00:02:39,600 --> 00:02:43,440 Speaker 4: Bluey actually, and I saw a lot of a lot 57 00:02:43,440 --> 00:02:45,720 Speaker 4: of a lot a lot of army shit too. 58 00:02:45,760 --> 00:02:48,920 Speaker 3: I saw, Yeah, I see like look his intact gear 59 00:02:48,919 --> 00:02:49,200 Speaker 3: and shit. 60 00:02:49,240 --> 00:02:50,560 Speaker 1: I was like, this is kind of yeah, I did 61 00:02:50,680 --> 00:02:54,240 Speaker 1: see like yeah, And also my seven year old is 62 00:02:55,040 --> 00:02:58,120 Speaker 1: like Star Wars has been a feeder for him into 63 00:02:58,160 --> 00:03:00,920 Speaker 1: like being really interested in the military, which I couldn't 64 00:03:00,960 --> 00:03:08,399 Speaker 1: tell Jack further from where I saw this going. But yeah, 65 00:03:08,440 --> 00:03:14,080 Speaker 1: now we're a military family. Now we're super conservative. Yeah, 66 00:03:14,320 --> 00:03:19,080 Speaker 1: we salute one another. Also, Adam's family a lot of 67 00:03:19,120 --> 00:03:25,919 Speaker 1: great uh family wide Adam's family costumes, which was LOVELYE 68 00:03:26,639 --> 00:03:28,800 Speaker 1: we did, we did all full Star Wars. It was 69 00:03:28,800 --> 00:03:29,320 Speaker 1: a blast. 70 00:03:29,720 --> 00:03:31,240 Speaker 3: Total recall thing was right there. 71 00:03:31,320 --> 00:03:33,960 Speaker 4: The baby's quatdo her magicty could have been the lady 72 00:03:34,000 --> 00:03:35,880 Speaker 4: with the three boobs from total Recall. 73 00:03:36,320 --> 00:03:37,680 Speaker 2: I can't believe she rejected it. 74 00:03:37,960 --> 00:03:40,920 Speaker 4: I didn't even even bring up that was the coup 75 00:03:40,920 --> 00:03:43,000 Speaker 4: de gras. I didn't even bring that up first, I 76 00:03:43,120 --> 00:03:45,320 Speaker 4: was always had that in my pocket. First, need to 77 00:03:45,360 --> 00:03:46,920 Speaker 4: make sure we got Quato over the line. And when 78 00:03:46,920 --> 00:03:48,320 Speaker 4: we did it, I said, was even probably want to 79 00:03:48,320 --> 00:03:49,520 Speaker 4: hear about the three breast lady. 80 00:03:50,240 --> 00:03:54,280 Speaker 1: I want to hear about my next idea that you're 81 00:03:54,280 --> 00:03:57,280 Speaker 1: always finding yourself saying that, then you're probably not gonna 82 00:03:57,280 --> 00:03:58,760 Speaker 1: want to hear about my next idea. 83 00:03:58,800 --> 00:04:00,960 Speaker 4: The second one I want to do is krying from 84 00:04:01,040 --> 00:04:03,640 Speaker 4: teenage un and Ninja tyas also really good. It would 85 00:04:03,640 --> 00:04:05,800 Speaker 4: have been a lot of like like pink paint, like 86 00:04:05,840 --> 00:04:08,560 Speaker 4: he's too cute to look like, too beautiful. 87 00:04:08,960 --> 00:04:11,360 Speaker 3: I don't know why it was like fine, but. 88 00:04:11,560 --> 00:04:17,600 Speaker 1: Yeah, rely on one of the most beautiful humans I've 89 00:04:17,600 --> 00:04:21,640 Speaker 1: ever seen to look ugly, just like I feel like 90 00:04:21,680 --> 00:04:23,120 Speaker 1: you got to play to your strength. 91 00:04:22,839 --> 00:04:23,520 Speaker 2: A little bit here. 92 00:04:23,800 --> 00:04:25,640 Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, exactly exactly. 93 00:04:25,839 --> 00:04:28,960 Speaker 1: But anyways, I hope everybody had a happy, safe Halloween. 94 00:04:29,440 --> 00:04:34,360 Speaker 1: Let us know any trends you picked up in your 95 00:04:34,720 --> 00:04:40,520 Speaker 1: Halloween costume observation, Any any great ideas you saw well executed. 96 00:04:40,640 --> 00:04:42,440 Speaker 4: Oh you know what I like though, and I wish 97 00:04:42,520 --> 00:04:45,000 Speaker 4: I don't really have trigger treaters in my neighborhood. But 98 00:04:45,240 --> 00:04:46,880 Speaker 4: we went to this part of town where there were, 99 00:04:47,360 --> 00:04:50,240 Speaker 4: and I like when people have. 100 00:04:50,200 --> 00:04:52,279 Speaker 3: An adult something for the adults. 101 00:04:52,480 --> 00:04:54,880 Speaker 4: Don't got the alcohol, but like someone's like, hey, I 102 00:04:54,880 --> 00:04:57,279 Speaker 4: got like y'all want some food, Like I got bags 103 00:04:57,279 --> 00:04:59,760 Speaker 4: of chips, like like as if it were like a marathon, 104 00:05:00,160 --> 00:05:01,760 Speaker 4: like hating some oreng slices because I know you're like 105 00:05:01,760 --> 00:05:04,120 Speaker 4: you're just gonna be walking around with Kizzie candy, but 106 00:05:04,240 --> 00:05:06,840 Speaker 4: you're like a hot dog like someone was grilling and shit. 107 00:05:07,240 --> 00:05:09,599 Speaker 3: I was like, yeah, that's a nice community service. 108 00:05:09,640 --> 00:05:12,200 Speaker 1: I like that dimension of shar the out I was 109 00:05:12,240 --> 00:05:15,239 Speaker 1: giving myself as nobody wants like something outside of a package, 110 00:05:15,400 --> 00:05:17,600 Speaker 1: like they're not going to trust it, you know, no. 111 00:05:17,680 --> 00:05:18,039 Speaker 3: For sure. 112 00:05:18,080 --> 00:05:20,920 Speaker 4: I mean I trust me. That was my first instinct. 113 00:05:20,960 --> 00:05:22,960 Speaker 4: But yeah, I was like, man, as. 114 00:05:22,800 --> 00:05:25,240 Speaker 2: The night wears on, you're like, yeah, actually give me 115 00:05:25,240 --> 00:05:27,159 Speaker 2: that ship. Yeah. 116 00:05:27,200 --> 00:05:30,320 Speaker 4: I'm at the will of people. I'm trusting people every 117 00:05:30,400 --> 00:05:33,279 Speaker 4: damn day, So fuck it. If you got a hot 118 00:05:33,320 --> 00:05:37,440 Speaker 4: dog and if you're flipping Lucy Glizzies out here, fine, yeah. 119 00:05:37,720 --> 00:05:39,520 Speaker 1: And they also were like kind of grossed out because 120 00:05:39,520 --> 00:05:41,320 Speaker 1: I had already taken a bite of it before I 121 00:05:41,360 --> 00:05:41,880 Speaker 1: offered them. 122 00:05:42,320 --> 00:05:45,400 Speaker 3: But you know, you're like, actually, I don't like it. 123 00:05:45,440 --> 00:05:46,000 Speaker 3: But here. 124 00:05:48,040 --> 00:05:48,880 Speaker 2: You could have it back. 125 00:05:51,000 --> 00:05:57,039 Speaker 1: All right, let's talk about the hyper caffeination. Oh God, America, dude. 126 00:05:57,720 --> 00:05:59,640 Speaker 3: So this coincides with something to happen. 127 00:05:59,720 --> 00:06:01,919 Speaker 4: I was recently had a Panera bread and I was 128 00:06:02,000 --> 00:06:04,839 Speaker 4: getting soup in a bread bowl, as one does on 129 00:06:04,920 --> 00:06:08,560 Speaker 4: a hot Los Angeles day, you have to. But when 130 00:06:08,560 --> 00:06:10,000 Speaker 4: I was at the fountain trying to figure out what 131 00:06:10,080 --> 00:06:12,800 Speaker 4: to drink, I saw a bunch of these like charged lemonades, 132 00:06:13,200 --> 00:06:15,440 Speaker 4: and the flavors were like interesting. It was just like 133 00:06:15,560 --> 00:06:20,320 Speaker 4: it was like mango, yuzouz, citrus, strawberry, lemon mint, although. 134 00:06:20,160 --> 00:06:22,480 Speaker 3: Lemon seams redundant because we're dealing with lemonade here. 135 00:06:22,480 --> 00:06:25,560 Speaker 4: But anyway, and then when I looked at the description, 136 00:06:25,680 --> 00:06:28,680 Speaker 4: it said had added caffeine, and that made it a 137 00:06:28,720 --> 00:06:31,120 Speaker 4: no for me, dog since energy drinks aren't my shit, 138 00:06:31,240 --> 00:06:34,000 Speaker 4: and also like they're not like I don't think of 139 00:06:34,200 --> 00:06:37,719 Speaker 4: caffeine caffeita shit as being refreshing. But then I really 140 00:06:37,760 --> 00:06:40,960 Speaker 4: looked at the amount of caffeine and the servings, and 141 00:06:41,120 --> 00:06:43,040 Speaker 4: I like, there are a lot of people have posted this 142 00:06:43,120 --> 00:06:44,640 Speaker 4: is a picture that I took, but I posted in 143 00:06:44,640 --> 00:06:47,200 Speaker 4: the dock just to get Jack's take on Yeah, what 144 00:06:47,240 --> 00:06:49,960 Speaker 4: we're looking at here in terms of milligrams per serving. 145 00:06:50,000 --> 00:06:53,719 Speaker 4: So if you get a thirty ounce version of this drink, 146 00:06:53,800 --> 00:06:56,760 Speaker 4: it has three almost what three hundred and ninety milligrams 147 00:06:56,800 --> 00:06:57,920 Speaker 4: of caffeine. 148 00:06:57,560 --> 00:07:02,520 Speaker 1: Yes, three hundred ninety milligrams of the That is a 149 00:07:02,600 --> 00:07:05,480 Speaker 1: spicy meat ball of caffeine. That is a crazy making 150 00:07:05,520 --> 00:07:12,840 Speaker 1: amount of caffeine. Man, That is seven Mountain dews. That 151 00:07:12,960 --> 00:07:19,320 Speaker 1: is Starbucks Trent Tuck the thirty ounce coffee like that, 152 00:07:19,880 --> 00:07:22,280 Speaker 1: the Starbucks train Di I've always assumed is like that's 153 00:07:22,480 --> 00:07:26,000 Speaker 1: gotta be the most caffeine that like one can consume 154 00:07:26,040 --> 00:07:30,040 Speaker 1: in a single like with one hand, you know, keeping 155 00:07:30,080 --> 00:07:33,760 Speaker 1: one hand for hand. No, we are, we are beyond that. 156 00:07:33,920 --> 00:07:38,000 Speaker 1: We're it's it's almost two of those in what looks 157 00:07:38,080 --> 00:07:42,320 Speaker 1: like a non caffeinated beverage like this is it's. 158 00:07:42,200 --> 00:07:44,760 Speaker 4: All those circulator fountain things like where you can see 159 00:07:44,800 --> 00:07:46,640 Speaker 4: the liquid. It's not coming out of like a tap 160 00:07:46,760 --> 00:07:50,040 Speaker 4: behind like you can see the lemonade in the clear container, like, oh, 161 00:07:50,120 --> 00:07:50,680 Speaker 4: this one's pink. 162 00:07:50,920 --> 00:07:56,920 Speaker 1: Okay, it's it's two no dose pills exactly. That's they 163 00:07:57,000 --> 00:07:59,840 Speaker 1: just I and it feels like they probably just ground 164 00:07:59,920 --> 00:08:02,400 Speaker 1: up no dose pills and put them in there like 165 00:08:02,480 --> 00:08:05,760 Speaker 1: that's it's so much caffeine. 166 00:08:06,000 --> 00:08:08,720 Speaker 4: I've never taken a fucking no dose, but that sounds 167 00:08:08,760 --> 00:08:10,200 Speaker 4: like a nightmare. 168 00:08:10,440 --> 00:08:14,200 Speaker 1: I did a sleepover when I was in middle school, 169 00:08:14,440 --> 00:08:17,840 Speaker 1: and uh, like we were like, we're staying up all 170 00:08:17,920 --> 00:08:22,280 Speaker 1: night and one kid, one kid took two and lost 171 00:08:22,320 --> 00:08:24,560 Speaker 1: his mind and also threw up, Like. 172 00:08:24,600 --> 00:08:27,600 Speaker 4: Okay, yeah, could to keep in mind that it will 173 00:08:27,640 --> 00:08:31,120 Speaker 4: put a child into some kind of terrible state. So anyway, 174 00:08:31,120 --> 00:08:33,160 Speaker 4: I just read a story in Rolling Stone about how 175 00:08:33,160 --> 00:08:37,240 Speaker 4: a young college student, this woman died after drinking this 176 00:08:37,679 --> 00:08:40,240 Speaker 4: and now the FDA is looking into it. Now obviously 177 00:08:40,320 --> 00:08:42,920 Speaker 4: these are this is what is being alleged by her family, 178 00:08:44,120 --> 00:08:46,960 Speaker 4: but they are they're basically saying like they're suing Panera 179 00:08:46,960 --> 00:08:49,400 Speaker 4: because they felt her daughter had quote a reasonably comp 180 00:08:49,520 --> 00:08:52,320 Speaker 4: like was reasonably confident it was a traditional lemonade or 181 00:08:52,360 --> 00:08:56,320 Speaker 4: electrolyte sports drink containing a reasonable amount of caffeine for 182 00:08:56,400 --> 00:08:58,160 Speaker 4: her to drink, because I don't know if it was 183 00:08:58,240 --> 00:09:02,480 Speaker 4: labeled to this extent. The lawsuit also said, tragically, the 184 00:09:02,520 --> 00:09:05,360 Speaker 4: reason why most likely that this could have brought on 185 00:09:05,600 --> 00:09:07,960 Speaker 4: the death of this woman was that she had like 186 00:09:08,040 --> 00:09:12,240 Speaker 4: a very specific heart condition that can cause arrhythmias or 187 00:09:12,360 --> 00:09:16,839 Speaker 4: like abnormal heart rhythms when you have a huge amount 188 00:09:16,880 --> 00:09:20,760 Speaker 4: of caffeine or doing a lot of strenuous exercise. So 189 00:09:20,840 --> 00:09:23,079 Speaker 4: you're like, oh my god, that sounds like the perfect 190 00:09:23,120 --> 00:09:25,240 Speaker 4: storm for tragedy, and it seems like it was. And 191 00:09:25,280 --> 00:09:27,880 Speaker 4: Panera responded not by pulling the product. They just put 192 00:09:27,960 --> 00:09:30,800 Speaker 4: up a little fucking placard that's like, hey, this thing 193 00:09:30,840 --> 00:09:33,520 Speaker 4: has caught caffeine consuming moderation. 194 00:09:33,679 --> 00:09:36,239 Speaker 3: Not recommended for the softies. 195 00:09:36,480 --> 00:09:41,400 Speaker 1: I almost got caught in a elevator because they had 196 00:09:41,440 --> 00:09:44,880 Speaker 1: a similar they had this elevator is broken signed, but 197 00:09:44,920 --> 00:09:47,240 Speaker 1: it was like off to the side on the wall, 198 00:09:47,440 --> 00:09:50,000 Speaker 1: Like I almost I did get stuck in an elevator 199 00:09:50,000 --> 00:09:53,600 Speaker 1: for like three minutes with on my way with my 200 00:09:54,160 --> 00:09:55,600 Speaker 1: one of my kids to go pee. 201 00:09:55,679 --> 00:09:58,439 Speaker 2: So he was the real nightmare. 202 00:09:58,800 --> 00:10:02,720 Speaker 1: And like that, you can't just put up a sign 203 00:10:02,960 --> 00:10:06,640 Speaker 1: to the side of a thing and assume that it's going, 204 00:10:06,960 --> 00:10:11,440 Speaker 1: like when it's a thing that could like endanger people. Yeah, 205 00:10:11,480 --> 00:10:16,640 Speaker 1: and again like there's too much institutional memory of drinks 206 00:10:16,720 --> 00:10:20,080 Speaker 1: like this that aren't hyper caffeinated, right, people said, you 207 00:10:20,080 --> 00:10:20,920 Speaker 1: know it's. 208 00:10:20,960 --> 00:10:23,839 Speaker 4: When you're like, oh, lemonade okay charged, Yeah, like yo, 209 00:10:23,960 --> 00:10:28,400 Speaker 4: turn up on this lemonade. But yeah, I already yeah, 210 00:10:28,600 --> 00:10:30,880 Speaker 4: no charge lemonade. But I remember when I went in, 211 00:10:31,200 --> 00:10:33,160 Speaker 4: like on that side, it just says like like with 212 00:10:33,240 --> 00:10:36,880 Speaker 4: like with added caffeine for energy. Never told you the milligrams, 213 00:10:36,920 --> 00:10:38,640 Speaker 4: but again that was enough to put me off of it. 214 00:10:39,600 --> 00:10:42,360 Speaker 4: And it's wild because people on TikTok have been like 215 00:10:42,480 --> 00:10:45,680 Speaker 4: pointing out that these drinks are a fucking hellspun mixture 216 00:10:46,200 --> 00:10:48,880 Speaker 4: that has some people just like having the jitters all 217 00:10:49,000 --> 00:10:51,559 Speaker 4: fucking day, or people literally saying, quote, I feel like. 218 00:10:51,559 --> 00:10:54,000 Speaker 3: I was like dying from this thing. 219 00:10:54,360 --> 00:10:56,760 Speaker 4: And you know, like the Panera bread, like the subreddit, 220 00:10:56,880 --> 00:10:59,439 Speaker 4: like there's employees that are like, honestly, we should be 221 00:10:59,520 --> 00:11:02,040 Speaker 4: keeping this ship behind the counter, like this is not 222 00:11:02,640 --> 00:11:04,760 Speaker 4: like then they're like icee kids drink this shit all 223 00:11:04,760 --> 00:11:05,080 Speaker 4: the time. 224 00:11:05,120 --> 00:11:06,280 Speaker 3: It just seems super wild. 225 00:11:06,600 --> 00:11:08,640 Speaker 4: And at first I always figured these kinds of drinks 226 00:11:08,640 --> 00:11:11,600 Speaker 4: were like just our capitalist jet fuel to like help 227 00:11:11,640 --> 00:11:15,960 Speaker 4: people get through their work day. But like the increasing amounts, 228 00:11:16,000 --> 00:11:18,760 Speaker 4: like we're talking about Prime and now this like there 229 00:11:18,800 --> 00:11:22,559 Speaker 4: just feels like there's something like darker going on, like 230 00:11:22,559 --> 00:11:25,240 Speaker 4: like these are just becoming cheap drugs. 231 00:11:25,320 --> 00:11:27,240 Speaker 3: Or something that we can just get anywhere, yeah, or 232 00:11:27,280 --> 00:11:28,120 Speaker 3: something I think, you know what I mean. 233 00:11:28,080 --> 00:11:30,440 Speaker 1: Right, Like, I think it's obviously a combination of the two, 234 00:11:30,520 --> 00:11:32,640 Speaker 1: like a jet fuel to get us through the day, 235 00:11:33,080 --> 00:11:35,520 Speaker 1: but also like the fact that we need something to 236 00:11:35,600 --> 00:11:38,120 Speaker 1: get us through the day is kind of dark, like 237 00:11:38,240 --> 00:11:39,080 Speaker 1: the day. 238 00:11:39,280 --> 00:11:43,040 Speaker 2: Yeah, we're I feel like we are. We have been 239 00:11:43,080 --> 00:11:43,720 Speaker 2: for a while. 240 00:11:43,840 --> 00:11:47,680 Speaker 1: But you know, we're a nation of addicts, and we 241 00:11:47,800 --> 00:11:52,040 Speaker 1: just want something to deliver us from feeling what we're 242 00:11:52,080 --> 00:11:55,360 Speaker 1: feeling at all times, you know, like deliver us from 243 00:11:55,360 --> 00:11:59,760 Speaker 1: feeling the baseline human condition. We either want noise, we 244 00:11:59,800 --> 00:12:04,200 Speaker 1: want you know, the characters we worship are always like 245 00:12:04,240 --> 00:12:08,280 Speaker 1: triumphing over feelings set like they just don't feel vulnerable. 246 00:12:08,559 --> 00:12:11,320 Speaker 3: Yeah, they're not drinking energy drinks that. 247 00:12:11,360 --> 00:12:14,080 Speaker 1: They don't need it, they're just yeah, and like, so 248 00:12:14,200 --> 00:12:18,400 Speaker 1: we just pursue an escape through drugs or you know, 249 00:12:18,480 --> 00:12:22,280 Speaker 1: caffeine or consumerism, or you know, fighting each other on 250 00:12:22,320 --> 00:12:28,280 Speaker 1: social media or you know, just an unhealthy relationship with guns. 251 00:12:28,320 --> 00:12:30,439 Speaker 3: You know, just ye for everyone. 252 00:12:31,000 --> 00:12:33,960 Speaker 1: Yeah, but it does feel like one of the cheat 253 00:12:34,000 --> 00:12:40,560 Speaker 1: codes for capitalism is by selling addictive or mind all 254 00:12:40,640 --> 00:12:41,760 Speaker 1: drink substances. 255 00:12:41,840 --> 00:12:44,960 Speaker 2: Like that seems to really help like get them hooked. 256 00:12:45,200 --> 00:12:49,760 Speaker 3: Yeah, and yeah, down your three hundred and ninety mils yea. 257 00:12:51,240 --> 00:12:54,760 Speaker 1: Yeah, it's it feels, it feels unhealthy where if like 258 00:12:54,880 --> 00:12:58,840 Speaker 1: we're in a I feel like people don't want to 259 00:12:58,880 --> 00:13:02,360 Speaker 1: admit that we're in the it's like kind of dark 260 00:13:02,600 --> 00:13:07,120 Speaker 1: and meaningless eddy in the course of like human history, 261 00:13:07,160 --> 00:13:11,920 Speaker 1: and so we just need something to make us, to 262 00:13:11,960 --> 00:13:13,160 Speaker 1: make us gilding. 263 00:13:13,240 --> 00:13:14,240 Speaker 2: Else get to. 264 00:13:14,280 --> 00:13:18,920 Speaker 3: The next sunrise and just maybe it'll be different. That's yeah, grim. 265 00:13:18,640 --> 00:13:21,760 Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, like the history of like the sustainably 266 00:13:21,840 --> 00:13:25,600 Speaker 1: profitable things, a lot of them have like addictive substances 267 00:13:25,640 --> 00:13:28,960 Speaker 1: behind them, like the tobacco stuff, Like a lot of 268 00:13:29,000 --> 00:13:32,520 Speaker 1: the like unhealthy foods and shit. There's always something that's 269 00:13:32,559 --> 00:13:35,200 Speaker 1: like coming forward, just like I was. I was just 270 00:13:35,280 --> 00:13:39,560 Speaker 1: thinking about nicotine addiction, like now that I have like 271 00:13:39,600 --> 00:13:43,560 Speaker 1: a little distance personally and like historically, I think from 272 00:13:43,600 --> 00:13:46,240 Speaker 1: like the peak of my personal nicotine addiction. 273 00:13:46,320 --> 00:13:48,640 Speaker 2: But like also you know when people just. 274 00:13:48,600 --> 00:13:52,880 Speaker 1: Smoked everywhere, right, it's truly wild that like we spent 275 00:13:53,040 --> 00:13:55,760 Speaker 1: so much time addicted to a drug that doesn't even 276 00:13:55,800 --> 00:13:57,920 Speaker 1: make you feel good. 277 00:13:58,679 --> 00:14:05,160 Speaker 4: It's just is your appetite a little bit, Just like. 278 00:14:03,760 --> 00:14:06,240 Speaker 1: It can like give you a momentary feeling of relief, 279 00:14:06,280 --> 00:14:08,600 Speaker 1: but like it's I don't know it gives you. I 280 00:14:08,600 --> 00:14:11,560 Speaker 1: think for me, I'll just speak for myself. The thing 281 00:14:11,559 --> 00:14:14,240 Speaker 1: that it gave me was like something to focus on 282 00:14:14,960 --> 00:14:20,080 Speaker 1: besides in the middle distance, you know, besides the human condition. 283 00:14:20,200 --> 00:14:23,400 Speaker 1: It gave me like another thing to be like, well, 284 00:14:23,400 --> 00:14:24,320 Speaker 1: it'll it'll all. 285 00:14:24,240 --> 00:14:24,720 Speaker 2: Be all right. 286 00:14:25,000 --> 00:14:25,200 Speaker 3: You know. 287 00:14:25,280 --> 00:14:27,680 Speaker 1: I didn't think that out loud, but that's what I 288 00:14:27,760 --> 00:14:30,320 Speaker 1: was thinking at some level, is like as soon as 289 00:14:30,360 --> 00:14:33,680 Speaker 1: I can get a little nicotine like that. 290 00:14:33,800 --> 00:14:34,840 Speaker 2: Yeah, or better. 291 00:14:35,120 --> 00:14:39,600 Speaker 4: I started smoking, like especially like in college and at 292 00:14:39,640 --> 00:14:42,600 Speaker 4: certain jobs, because it gave me a reason to get 293 00:14:42,600 --> 00:14:45,520 Speaker 4: the fuck out of the space I was in where 294 00:14:45,520 --> 00:14:46,920 Speaker 4: it's like if it was class, I'm like, man, the 295 00:14:46,920 --> 00:14:47,680 Speaker 4: second get I'll have. 296 00:14:47,680 --> 00:14:50,600 Speaker 1: A cigarette and then or it's like a second I 297 00:14:50,600 --> 00:14:51,040 Speaker 1: have a break. 298 00:14:51,040 --> 00:14:52,640 Speaker 3: I'm not gonna have a break in the break room. 299 00:14:52,680 --> 00:14:55,680 Speaker 4: I'm a goal fucker outside in the alley and then 300 00:14:55,720 --> 00:14:58,080 Speaker 4: at least like do that like ben Affleck meme where I'm. 301 00:14:58,000 --> 00:15:02,800 Speaker 2: Like looking at this stuff, looking at the sky. 302 00:15:03,280 --> 00:15:07,160 Speaker 1: Yeah, but anyways, you can't well there's one thing you 303 00:15:07,200 --> 00:15:10,080 Speaker 1: can always leave, even even if you don't aren't smoking 304 00:15:10,360 --> 00:15:12,520 Speaker 1: just walk out of the fucking place you are and 305 00:15:12,560 --> 00:15:14,720 Speaker 1: go outside and take a take a lap around the block. 306 00:15:14,840 --> 00:15:16,560 Speaker 4: I know. But see that's how it's like sort of 307 00:15:16,600 --> 00:15:19,400 Speaker 4: built in because a lot of times you're like shamed 308 00:15:19,400 --> 00:15:21,680 Speaker 4: at a job. We're like, where are you going? Yeah, 309 00:15:21,720 --> 00:15:23,600 Speaker 4: and you couldn't be like to sit on a bench out, 310 00:15:23,600 --> 00:15:25,480 Speaker 4: so what the fuck is your problem? But then but 311 00:15:25,520 --> 00:15:27,840 Speaker 4: if you go, oh, you're going for a cigarette, You're 312 00:15:27,840 --> 00:15:30,120 Speaker 4: like yeah, and then suddenly we're fine. 313 00:15:30,400 --> 00:15:33,120 Speaker 1: Yeah, anyways, maybe steer clear of this. I don't I 314 00:15:33,120 --> 00:15:35,800 Speaker 1: don't see it like I I was. My first thought 315 00:15:35,880 --> 00:15:37,760 Speaker 1: was like, well, I've got to try this ship and 316 00:15:37,840 --> 00:15:40,360 Speaker 1: just like see what it does to my brain and body. 317 00:15:40,400 --> 00:15:43,240 Speaker 1: And I still probably do for the purposes of science. 318 00:15:43,280 --> 00:15:46,960 Speaker 3: And yeah, for sure, try Vietnamese ice coffee before you 319 00:15:47,000 --> 00:15:47,200 Speaker 3: have this. 320 00:15:47,320 --> 00:15:48,280 Speaker 2: I know, I got a lot. 321 00:15:48,640 --> 00:15:50,960 Speaker 4: There's a hierarchy of caffeinated beverages you need to experience 322 00:15:51,000 --> 00:15:52,080 Speaker 4: before you ruin your life off this. 323 00:15:52,200 --> 00:15:55,120 Speaker 1: Yeah, me, my heart and my central nervous system have 324 00:15:55,160 --> 00:15:58,160 Speaker 1: a lot ahead of us in the coming months. 325 00:15:59,160 --> 00:16:01,080 Speaker 2: All right, let's take you quick break and we'll be 326 00:16:01,200 --> 00:16:13,280 Speaker 2: right back. And we're back. 327 00:16:14,040 --> 00:16:17,480 Speaker 1: And there's a pretty wild story about HBO that was 328 00:16:17,560 --> 00:16:18,920 Speaker 1: just published in Rolling Stone. 329 00:16:19,000 --> 00:16:19,440 Speaker 2: Rolling Stone. 330 00:16:19,440 --> 00:16:21,720 Speaker 1: Shout out to Rolling Stone. Still like doing some good 331 00:16:22,320 --> 00:16:29,800 Speaker 1: good work out here. Yeah. So, apparently HBO are being 332 00:16:29,840 --> 00:16:34,600 Speaker 1: sued for by a former employee who's claiming that he 333 00:16:34,720 --> 00:16:38,040 Speaker 1: was harassed and faced retaliation and discrimination after disclosing a 334 00:16:38,080 --> 00:16:39,840 Speaker 1: mental health diagnosis to his bosses. 335 00:16:40,720 --> 00:16:41,920 Speaker 2: HBO denies it. 336 00:16:41,920 --> 00:16:46,600 Speaker 1: It's in court, but the case and the discovery the 337 00:16:46,960 --> 00:16:53,800 Speaker 1: evidence revealed some things going on HBO, specifically with like 338 00:16:53,840 --> 00:16:56,480 Speaker 1: some of the executives who have since been promoted, Like 339 00:16:56,480 --> 00:17:00,840 Speaker 1: one of these executives has been promoted to CEO at HBO. 340 00:17:02,760 --> 00:17:07,760 Speaker 1: But HBO allegedly got this employee to quote perform menial 341 00:17:07,880 --> 00:17:11,120 Speaker 1: tasks not related to his work duties, which included creating 342 00:17:11,160 --> 00:17:16,840 Speaker 1: fake online accounts to respond to critics. Yes, yeahv shit 343 00:17:17,840 --> 00:17:22,959 Speaker 1: skinned ass motherfuckers. It's a normal sized caller. Yes, I 344 00:17:23,040 --> 00:17:27,240 Speaker 1: love that, love that big. It's a normal sized collar. 345 00:17:27,400 --> 00:17:31,159 Speaker 1: Find a new angle energy. So it all started in 346 00:17:31,160 --> 00:17:35,480 Speaker 1: twenty twenty when then president of Original Programming Casey bloy 347 00:17:35,600 --> 00:17:38,719 Speaker 1: Is recruited an employee to quote go on a mission 348 00:17:40,040 --> 00:17:43,720 Speaker 1: and they were mythed at, a Vulture TV critic who 349 00:17:43,760 --> 00:17:48,440 Speaker 1: criticized a single scene in a reboot of Perry Mason, 350 00:17:48,720 --> 00:17:51,640 Speaker 1: which that was a show that was like pretty well reviewed, right, 351 00:17:52,040 --> 00:17:56,959 Speaker 1: I believe my guess is that this scene was pushed 352 00:17:56,960 --> 00:18:02,399 Speaker 1: for by this executive and they were like, no, that 353 00:18:02,560 --> 00:18:07,360 Speaker 1: was my baby, not U asshole, not today. So an 354 00:18:07,359 --> 00:18:10,399 Speaker 1: annoyed Bloys hit up HBO Senior vice president of Drama 355 00:18:10,440 --> 00:18:15,720 Speaker 1: Programming Kathleen McCaffrey, suggesting they find a mole to post 356 00:18:15,760 --> 00:18:18,640 Speaker 1: something that could make the critic feel bad. 357 00:18:18,880 --> 00:18:22,639 Speaker 4: That's in quotes quote feel bad, Like that's the length, 358 00:18:22,720 --> 00:18:24,080 Speaker 4: like we wanted to feel bad. 359 00:18:24,240 --> 00:18:25,040 Speaker 3: Oh yeah wow. 360 00:18:25,359 --> 00:18:25,840 Speaker 2: Yeah. 361 00:18:26,400 --> 00:18:29,000 Speaker 1: They didn't ultimately go through with that one, but then 362 00:18:29,040 --> 00:18:33,560 Speaker 1: they did. When Alan Seppenwall from Rolling Stone gave a 363 00:18:33,600 --> 00:18:37,800 Speaker 1: middling review to a Joss Whedon show that literally does 364 00:18:37,840 --> 00:18:38,399 Speaker 1: not exist. 365 00:18:38,480 --> 00:18:40,640 Speaker 2: Nobody remembers it coming out at all. 366 00:18:41,480 --> 00:18:44,040 Speaker 3: Yeah, so nobody remembers Joss Whedon to be fair anyway. 367 00:18:45,480 --> 00:18:48,920 Speaker 1: Joe Whedon by the way, uh his name is just 368 00:18:49,000 --> 00:18:53,919 Speaker 1: Joseph Whedon, and he was like, Joss, Yeah, baby, we 369 00:18:53,960 --> 00:18:58,120 Speaker 1: did Josh Joss a Bank and Joss Whedon together. 370 00:18:58,040 --> 00:19:00,439 Speaker 3: By last Josien Josh Byron. 371 00:19:00,640 --> 00:19:02,520 Speaker 1: But they hired a low level employee to create an 372 00:19:02,560 --> 00:19:06,960 Speaker 1: account under the name Kelly Shephard, an uh Texas mom 373 00:19:07,119 --> 00:19:13,160 Speaker 1: and herbalist who just went after Alan Sephawall. And then 374 00:19:13,440 --> 00:19:17,480 Speaker 1: they they got mad, like they just used this to 375 00:19:18,280 --> 00:19:22,679 Speaker 1: just have thin skinned clap backs against people for daring 376 00:19:22,680 --> 00:19:26,720 Speaker 1: to criticized, like various pet projects of theirs. And Bloyse, 377 00:19:26,880 --> 00:19:32,119 Speaker 1: who is now the CEO HBO, got upset about a 378 00:19:32,280 --> 00:19:37,480 Speaker 1: comment from an anonymous user on a Deadline article complaining 379 00:19:37,600 --> 00:19:41,159 Speaker 1: about the cancelation of the show run. According to the article, 380 00:19:41,320 --> 00:19:45,280 Speaker 1: he texted McCaffrey, how dare someone write that double exclamation 381 00:19:45,320 --> 00:19:48,560 Speaker 1: point and suggested more Lineta. 382 00:19:47,960 --> 00:19:52,600 Speaker 4: Someone randomly commenting on a fucking website, like not a journalist, 383 00:19:52,880 --> 00:19:57,680 Speaker 4: someone like in the comments say exactly quote fucking why 384 00:19:57,720 --> 00:19:58,199 Speaker 4: did they like? 385 00:19:58,240 --> 00:20:00,600 Speaker 3: Why can't they bring it back? A? Are you for real? 386 00:20:00,960 --> 00:20:03,360 Speaker 2: Isn't that amazing? That? Yeah? 387 00:20:03,400 --> 00:20:05,840 Speaker 1: And this is just a again like somebody being like 388 00:20:06,000 --> 00:20:08,560 Speaker 1: I really like the thing that you once made and 389 00:20:08,680 --> 00:20:11,680 Speaker 1: wish you brought it back. And he said, how dare 390 00:20:11,680 --> 00:20:13,639 Speaker 1: they write something like this and then went on to 391 00:20:13,680 --> 00:20:17,960 Speaker 1: say I want to say something along the lines of lol, okay, 392 00:20:18,160 --> 00:20:22,160 Speaker 1: they're just counting their Emmys or something like that. Later 393 00:20:22,240 --> 00:20:24,919 Speaker 1: he suggested, maybe we say we must have passed on 394 00:20:24,960 --> 00:20:26,680 Speaker 1: their development and they are bitter. 395 00:20:27,240 --> 00:20:31,600 Speaker 4: What the fuck that is so fucked that's such an 396 00:20:31,840 --> 00:20:35,520 Speaker 4: l I'm sorry, Like for everybody here, there's no way 397 00:20:35,560 --> 00:20:40,000 Speaker 4: you can make compelling television if you cannot even hear 398 00:20:40,119 --> 00:20:43,679 Speaker 4: any kind of criticism, not even criticism, just yeah, the 399 00:20:43,920 --> 00:20:47,199 Speaker 4: observations of people who are interacting with your product that 400 00:20:47,240 --> 00:20:50,200 Speaker 4: you're like, oh, they just bucking haters. Yeah, okay, Yeah, 401 00:20:50,200 --> 00:20:52,080 Speaker 4: that's a really good energy to have when you're thinking 402 00:20:52,080 --> 00:20:53,800 Speaker 4: about what kind of the next thing you're going to 403 00:20:53,880 --> 00:20:54,879 Speaker 4: develop or market? 404 00:20:55,040 --> 00:20:56,840 Speaker 3: Will fuck off? Wow? 405 00:20:57,840 --> 00:20:59,800 Speaker 2: Yeah, come for me, Casey, you know what I mean. 406 00:21:00,800 --> 00:21:03,720 Speaker 4: Use your fucking use your handle though, and you never 407 00:21:03,760 --> 00:21:05,879 Speaker 4: passed on anything I had, because I could you go 408 00:21:06,040 --> 00:21:11,720 Speaker 4: kicked me out? O. 409 00:21:12,440 --> 00:21:18,679 Speaker 1: God, the shittiness of the like proposed well, okay, they're 410 00:21:18,720 --> 00:21:22,919 Speaker 1: just counting their Emmys, like to a random internet commentary, 411 00:21:23,000 --> 00:21:24,200 Speaker 1: I think they're gonna be like. 412 00:21:24,480 --> 00:21:26,440 Speaker 2: Oh, they do have Emmys. 413 00:21:26,520 --> 00:21:32,720 Speaker 3: Actually yeah, oh that's that's right. I'm not counting Emmy's 414 00:21:32,760 --> 00:21:33,400 Speaker 3: and they are. 415 00:21:33,600 --> 00:21:37,160 Speaker 1: You're right, they're so it's so funny, like you could 416 00:21:37,200 --> 00:21:40,919 Speaker 1: just tell which decisions he was involved with, because like 417 00:21:41,280 --> 00:21:46,439 Speaker 1: these are relatively like minor criticisms like they're not like 418 00:21:46,760 --> 00:21:48,800 Speaker 1: I wish that show wasn't canceled. 419 00:21:49,040 --> 00:21:52,960 Speaker 4: The thing that the Vulture TV critic wrote, Catherine van 420 00:21:53,040 --> 00:21:56,600 Speaker 4: Arendoon this is this is what she wrote about Perry 421 00:21:56,640 --> 00:21:59,119 Speaker 4: Mason that got this guy to fucking blow a fuse 422 00:22:00,119 --> 00:22:02,920 Speaker 4: is broke, and this is about there's like flashes. 423 00:22:02,480 --> 00:22:04,600 Speaker 3: Of him being in World War One, and this is 424 00:22:04,600 --> 00:22:05,520 Speaker 3: what she was directly talking about. 425 00:22:05,520 --> 00:22:08,960 Speaker 4: I said, quote, dear Prestige TV, please find some way 426 00:22:08,960 --> 00:22:12,639 Speaker 4: to communicate male trauma besides showing me a flashback to 427 00:22:12,680 --> 00:22:17,320 Speaker 4: the hero's memories of trench warfare. That's fair, that seems interesting. 428 00:22:17,720 --> 00:22:21,240 Speaker 4: I get that that's like an overuged trope that you know, 429 00:22:21,400 --> 00:22:25,200 Speaker 4: like these like male protagonists like their trauma only comes 430 00:22:25,200 --> 00:22:28,359 Speaker 4: from combat or whatever, like that's the only dimension of it. 431 00:22:28,520 --> 00:22:31,960 Speaker 3: But then to that, he's like fucking go fucking ham 432 00:22:32,000 --> 00:22:32,360 Speaker 3: on her. 433 00:22:32,440 --> 00:22:34,920 Speaker 2: Now she's she's over in this town. 434 00:22:35,640 --> 00:22:38,199 Speaker 1: So then we cut to Casey and there's like a 435 00:22:38,200 --> 00:22:42,119 Speaker 1: flashback and he was in World War One and like 436 00:22:42,240 --> 00:22:46,000 Speaker 1: that's where he gets his you know. But like clearly 437 00:22:46,080 --> 00:22:50,280 Speaker 1: he greenlit that scene and it was controversial and like 438 00:22:50,480 --> 00:22:53,800 Speaker 1: very expensive, you know, right right right, Like this is 439 00:22:54,040 --> 00:22:56,199 Speaker 1: a detective show and it has a scene of like 440 00:22:56,280 --> 00:22:59,879 Speaker 1: trench warfare and like that couldn't have been inexpensive. 441 00:23:01,000 --> 00:23:03,240 Speaker 4: And you know, my grandpa was in World War One, 442 00:23:03,480 --> 00:23:06,639 Speaker 4: really and I think that's why he never talked to 443 00:23:06,680 --> 00:23:07,520 Speaker 4: me or hugged me. 444 00:23:07,680 --> 00:23:08,960 Speaker 3: So maybe we can do that for Perry. 445 00:23:09,440 --> 00:23:12,520 Speaker 1: Yeah, so clearly, like did he ever go online after 446 00:23:12,520 --> 00:23:14,160 Speaker 1: a Game of Thrones finale? 447 00:23:14,640 --> 00:23:14,960 Speaker 2: Like that? 448 00:23:16,640 --> 00:23:19,080 Speaker 1: Probably like some of the meanest shit I've ever seen, 449 00:23:19,119 --> 00:23:20,200 Speaker 1: really about anything. 450 00:23:20,760 --> 00:23:25,520 Speaker 4: Look at this picture of David Zaslov and Casey Bloyse together. 451 00:23:26,119 --> 00:23:26,880 Speaker 2: Love them. 452 00:23:27,320 --> 00:23:32,960 Speaker 4: They just just absolute titans of industry with skin made 453 00:23:33,000 --> 00:23:33,760 Speaker 4: of asbestos. 454 00:23:37,160 --> 00:23:39,159 Speaker 1: All right, Well, those are some of the things that 455 00:23:39,280 --> 00:23:43,440 Speaker 1: are trending on this Wednesday, November. First, yep, we are 456 00:23:43,520 --> 00:23:45,840 Speaker 1: back tomorrow with a whole ass episode of the show. 457 00:23:46,080 --> 00:23:49,240 Speaker 1: Until then, be kind to each other, be kind to yourself, yep, 458 00:23:49,320 --> 00:23:52,360 Speaker 1: get the vaccine, don't do nothing about white supremacy, and 459 00:23:52,400 --> 00:23:53,600 Speaker 1: we will talk to you all tomorrow. 460 00:23:53,640 --> 00:24:01,000 Speaker 3: Fight bye.