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One up in SELEC States 11 00:00:30,320 --> 00:00:32,320 Speaker 1: first on nine Really any way, your only tandell firstpose required, 12 00:00:32,320 --> 00:00:34,640 Speaker 1: Own this issue and with expliers fourteen days AF receipt 13 00:00:34,640 --> 00:00:38,080 Speaker 1: restrictions applies. He terms a sportsookvan dot com problem gambler 14 00:00:39,040 --> 00:00:48,199 Speaker 1: the volume. Welcome to the Richard Sherman Podcast. I got 15 00:00:48,320 --> 00:00:52,199 Speaker 1: a special guest, my guy, Tyler Lockett. I call him 16 00:00:52,240 --> 00:00:55,160 Speaker 1: no he nobody knows why because apparently I'm old now 17 00:00:55,240 --> 00:01:00,240 Speaker 1: and and there's not another Locket on the team. But 18 00:01:00,280 --> 00:01:02,120 Speaker 1: I appreciate you joining. I mean, how you how you 19 00:01:02,200 --> 00:01:04,880 Speaker 1: doing man? I'm doing good man? And if you're old 20 00:01:05,040 --> 00:01:07,040 Speaker 1: and that means I'm still young because I came in 21 00:01:07,360 --> 00:01:12,039 Speaker 1: way way after you, right, and you the vet vet. 22 00:01:12,160 --> 00:01:15,400 Speaker 1: Now you're you're the super vecu Right. I didn't. I 23 00:01:15,440 --> 00:01:17,600 Speaker 1: didn't been here so long, man, I didn't seen draft 24 00:01:17,680 --> 00:01:20,200 Speaker 1: classes come and go. That's that's when I knew it was. 25 00:01:20,440 --> 00:01:23,440 Speaker 1: I'm like, dang, man, do you remember when you were 26 00:01:23,480 --> 00:01:26,440 Speaker 1: all innocent? You thought the lead was just you know, sunshine, 27 00:01:26,440 --> 00:01:29,400 Speaker 1: the rainbows. This is a cool place. I remember when 28 00:01:29,440 --> 00:01:31,640 Speaker 1: I first day I got there. This's a shoot all. 29 00:01:33,120 --> 00:01:36,640 Speaker 1: It's way different from case stay. I might enjoyed being here. 30 00:01:37,480 --> 00:01:41,720 Speaker 1: This was like an hour and a half, right, that's it, right, 31 00:01:42,200 --> 00:01:44,640 Speaker 1: And you've been there ever since, and you've been thriving. Man, 32 00:01:45,280 --> 00:01:49,800 Speaker 1: how's the hand doing? The hand is doing pretty good? Man. Honestly, 33 00:01:49,880 --> 00:01:52,560 Speaker 1: I think you know, I'm kind of blessing the situation 34 00:01:52,640 --> 00:01:55,120 Speaker 1: that I mean, just because it wasn't like it was 35 00:01:55,240 --> 00:01:58,000 Speaker 1: a broken hand or where I had to sit out, 36 00:01:58,320 --> 00:02:00,200 Speaker 1: you know, for four or five months and was the 37 00:02:00,320 --> 00:02:02,520 Speaker 1: end of my season. I actually got a chance to 38 00:02:02,560 --> 00:02:05,200 Speaker 1: be able to see how much work I could put 39 00:02:05,280 --> 00:02:06,880 Speaker 1: in just to be able to come back out and 40 00:02:07,120 --> 00:02:09,239 Speaker 1: try to be able to play a help team. I 41 00:02:09,320 --> 00:02:12,480 Speaker 1: don't understand no, because you've been balling. You know, this 42 00:02:12,720 --> 00:02:15,760 Speaker 1: is your um team season of being consistent, and you 43 00:02:15,840 --> 00:02:18,320 Speaker 1: need a couple more yards for your thousand. But you 44 00:02:18,440 --> 00:02:20,600 Speaker 1: in d K just like like they always just act 45 00:02:20,639 --> 00:02:22,840 Speaker 1: like you're not out there balling, you're not killing like 46 00:02:23,000 --> 00:02:25,280 Speaker 1: and and that goes for a lot of people. Why 47 00:02:25,280 --> 00:02:27,200 Speaker 1: do you think that is? You know, I mean, you've 48 00:02:27,200 --> 00:02:28,919 Speaker 1: been doing it for a long time. D K came 49 00:02:28,960 --> 00:02:30,840 Speaker 1: on the scene and he's been playing at a high level. 50 00:02:30,919 --> 00:02:33,440 Speaker 1: But it's still no matter how many yards and touchdowns 51 00:02:33,480 --> 00:02:36,480 Speaker 1: your second all time and touchdowns and Seahawks history, but 52 00:02:36,960 --> 00:02:39,359 Speaker 1: people still don't give you that love. Yeah, you know, 53 00:02:39,480 --> 00:02:42,000 Speaker 1: I really don't know why, bro Um. It's one of 54 00:02:42,040 --> 00:02:44,200 Speaker 1: those things where ever since I got here, I mean, 55 00:02:44,280 --> 00:02:46,239 Speaker 1: even when you were here, like Doug didn't get any 56 00:02:46,320 --> 00:02:49,519 Speaker 1: love too, you know, and was phenomenal with everything that 57 00:02:49,639 --> 00:02:51,960 Speaker 1: he did, the releases, being able to catch the ball. 58 00:02:52,360 --> 00:02:54,400 Speaker 1: I don't know if it's just kind of a Puget 59 00:02:54,480 --> 00:02:56,919 Speaker 1: sound thing out here that a lot of people don't 60 00:02:56,960 --> 00:02:59,000 Speaker 1: get the chance just to be able to watch us. 61 00:02:59,080 --> 00:03:01,560 Speaker 1: But I mean I've kind of come to a place, man, 62 00:03:01,600 --> 00:03:04,440 Speaker 1: where I've accepted the fact that the best I might 63 00:03:04,520 --> 00:03:08,000 Speaker 1: ever be in a people's minds is underrated. And I 64 00:03:08,080 --> 00:03:10,799 Speaker 1: mean that's okay, because it seems like underrated is the 65 00:03:10,880 --> 00:03:13,679 Speaker 1: most consistent thing they could say, because they can't say 66 00:03:13,800 --> 00:03:16,880 Speaker 1: he's top ten or or top fifteen, because then that 67 00:03:16,960 --> 00:03:20,120 Speaker 1: means he's better than underrated, and so underrated is a 68 00:03:20,200 --> 00:03:23,160 Speaker 1: way to just say he's good. But we're not going 69 00:03:23,200 --> 00:03:26,080 Speaker 1: to acknowledge him as a player that we probably should. 70 00:03:26,240 --> 00:03:30,400 Speaker 1: Stat's wise, So we're just gonna continue to keep it underrated, right. 71 00:03:30,600 --> 00:03:32,880 Speaker 1: But it's frustrating because it was frustrating for me when 72 00:03:32,919 --> 00:03:34,400 Speaker 1: Doe was there. That's what it was. Thankful Doug at 73 00:03:34,480 --> 00:03:36,640 Speaker 1: least made the Pro Bowl and and and got people 74 00:03:36,680 --> 00:03:38,160 Speaker 1: to see it at least one time, you know what 75 00:03:38,240 --> 00:03:41,200 Speaker 1: I mean, they should have saw it his old career, 76 00:03:41,360 --> 00:03:43,800 Speaker 1: but they at least got to acknowledge his greatness for 77 00:03:43,960 --> 00:03:47,120 Speaker 1: that year. But I don't know, man, are you excited 78 00:03:47,160 --> 00:03:48,880 Speaker 1: to come back this week because they need they needed 79 00:03:48,880 --> 00:03:51,200 Speaker 1: you last week? You know, obviously you wouldn't have been 80 00:03:51,200 --> 00:03:53,160 Speaker 1: out there with your shirt off. No, I'm not gonna say. 81 00:03:53,360 --> 00:03:55,240 Speaker 1: I'm not gonna say, you know, builing like everybody else. 82 00:03:55,280 --> 00:03:56,840 Speaker 1: But it has just been a difficuld of shirt off. 83 00:03:56,960 --> 00:04:00,200 Speaker 1: You know experience I told, I told the receivers, I 84 00:04:00,360 --> 00:04:02,080 Speaker 1: wasn't gonna go out there until it was time to 85 00:04:02,160 --> 00:04:04,800 Speaker 1: catch punts. Well, I would have been out there no 86 00:04:05,000 --> 00:04:13,160 Speaker 1: shirt compressions, just like, oh man, but no, man, I'm 87 00:04:13,200 --> 00:04:15,480 Speaker 1: not gonna lie. Man. It's it's hard just being able 88 00:04:15,520 --> 00:04:18,000 Speaker 1: to watch the game. Like you know, when I knew 89 00:04:18,000 --> 00:04:20,440 Speaker 1: I wasn't gonna be able to play, I was just like, man, 90 00:04:20,520 --> 00:04:23,160 Speaker 1: it's gonna be tough just watching the game. Especially I 91 00:04:23,240 --> 00:04:25,360 Speaker 1: went to Case State. It would have been like a 92 00:04:25,480 --> 00:04:27,440 Speaker 1: home game for me, you know what I mean. All 93 00:04:27,480 --> 00:04:29,560 Speaker 1: the Case State fans was there, my dad played with 94 00:04:29,640 --> 00:04:32,160 Speaker 1: the Chiefs. It was a game that I was really 95 00:04:32,240 --> 00:04:34,800 Speaker 1: looking forward to. And then, you know, for for something 96 00:04:34,880 --> 00:04:38,600 Speaker 1: like that to happen, I was like super frustrated, but 97 00:04:38,839 --> 00:04:41,000 Speaker 1: at the same time, like I said, man, it was 98 00:04:41,040 --> 00:04:43,240 Speaker 1: one of those blessings in the skies to where I 99 00:04:43,320 --> 00:04:46,160 Speaker 1: felt like I get a week off, I get my 100 00:04:46,279 --> 00:04:49,160 Speaker 1: mindset right, and you know when we talk about this 101 00:04:49,400 --> 00:04:51,640 Speaker 1: underrating and stuff too, it's like I get a chance 102 00:04:51,680 --> 00:04:54,000 Speaker 1: to go to another place in my career because I 103 00:04:54,160 --> 00:04:56,480 Speaker 1: never had surgery and had to come back and play. 104 00:04:56,839 --> 00:04:58,800 Speaker 1: So now it's like I get to tap into that 105 00:04:58,920 --> 00:05:02,480 Speaker 1: new mindset, that new hunger, that new you know, motivation, 106 00:05:02,600 --> 00:05:05,160 Speaker 1: especially with these two games left and then there's no 107 00:05:05,320 --> 00:05:07,960 Speaker 1: telling what can happen. It's like, all right, like remember 108 00:05:08,000 --> 00:05:10,320 Speaker 1: why you grind it? Remember you know what it was 109 00:05:10,360 --> 00:05:12,599 Speaker 1: like when you were training for camping in the off season, 110 00:05:12,680 --> 00:05:14,400 Speaker 1: just to be able to get right. It was like, 111 00:05:14,520 --> 00:05:17,159 Speaker 1: that's what that week was for me. It was super frustrating. 112 00:05:17,600 --> 00:05:20,240 Speaker 1: I couldn't rest mentally out going through it, just because 113 00:05:20,279 --> 00:05:24,560 Speaker 1: I was like, it's now or never, right, Hey, hey, 114 00:05:24,640 --> 00:05:29,000 Speaker 1: you got me chills, like motivating, Let's go get because 115 00:05:29,000 --> 00:05:31,760 Speaker 1: anything cared happened these last two weeks, you gotta happen though. 116 00:05:31,880 --> 00:05:35,000 Speaker 1: You gotta have last two. No, you're right, and you 117 00:05:35,279 --> 00:05:37,080 Speaker 1: you as a leader, you know, I mean they missed 118 00:05:37,080 --> 00:05:39,280 Speaker 1: you more than your production, your leadership. I mean, I 119 00:05:39,360 --> 00:05:41,600 Speaker 1: remember when you didn't say nothing. Well, you always got 120 00:05:41,640 --> 00:05:44,880 Speaker 1: your spoken word and your yeah yeah, your great advice, 121 00:05:45,000 --> 00:05:46,760 Speaker 1: but you know you weren't speaking as much. But now 122 00:05:46,880 --> 00:05:50,400 Speaker 1: you're you're obviously a leader and the captain of this team. Uh, 123 00:05:50,560 --> 00:05:52,480 Speaker 1: you were live tweeting during the game. You know, that 124 00:05:52,640 --> 00:05:55,400 Speaker 1: had to be totally different. I had to watch what 125 00:05:55,520 --> 00:05:57,760 Speaker 1: I said because I didn't want to get fine. I 126 00:05:57,839 --> 00:05:59,880 Speaker 1: told himself I might have to retire and then say 127 00:06:00,000 --> 00:06:02,080 Speaker 1: what I want to say, and they come back next week. 128 00:06:03,200 --> 00:06:06,160 Speaker 1: It was so bad man like then, you know. But 129 00:06:06,279 --> 00:06:08,520 Speaker 1: it's like we see that as players too, even when 130 00:06:08,560 --> 00:06:11,279 Speaker 1: we're done playing. We see the stuff that fans could 131 00:06:11,279 --> 00:06:14,280 Speaker 1: say are just people in general, and they could get frustrated. 132 00:06:14,320 --> 00:06:17,040 Speaker 1: But at the same time, it's just like, man, if 133 00:06:17,080 --> 00:06:19,240 Speaker 1: they was in that position, they probably do the same 134 00:06:19,320 --> 00:06:21,960 Speaker 1: thing or probably couldn't even do it at all. You know, 135 00:06:22,279 --> 00:06:24,720 Speaker 1: people get mad at me for catching the ball and 136 00:06:24,800 --> 00:06:27,200 Speaker 1: I get what I could get it fall and it's 137 00:06:27,240 --> 00:06:29,640 Speaker 1: like they think that's all that I do. And it's like, 138 00:06:30,279 --> 00:06:32,640 Speaker 1: all right, well, why don't you have people like Fred 139 00:06:32,720 --> 00:06:35,360 Speaker 1: Warner and Bobby Wagener punching the ball out two and 140 00:06:35,440 --> 00:06:40,280 Speaker 1: seven to see what you do? Know you ain't all 141 00:06:40,320 --> 00:06:43,960 Speaker 1: you own? The people no explanation, like that's why I'm 142 00:06:43,960 --> 00:06:46,560 Speaker 1: sitting there listening to people talk, and it's like there's 143 00:06:46,600 --> 00:06:49,320 Speaker 1: no winning with y'all. The man the man is it's 144 00:06:49,360 --> 00:06:51,160 Speaker 1: it got a hundred and fifty yards. You don't want 145 00:06:51,200 --> 00:06:53,520 Speaker 1: him to get an extra yard. But then if you 146 00:06:53,520 --> 00:06:55,400 Speaker 1: get injured the out for two games. Then you're like, 147 00:06:55,839 --> 00:06:58,120 Speaker 1: why didn't you just get down? Like you're never gonna 148 00:06:58,120 --> 00:07:02,440 Speaker 1: please say I'm get injured. They mad you get down 149 00:07:02,520 --> 00:07:04,600 Speaker 1: and get what you can get. They mad, you know 150 00:07:04,720 --> 00:07:08,080 Speaker 1: what your pockets and field, your teammates is happy. How 151 00:07:08,160 --> 00:07:10,680 Speaker 1: all you can worry about? Man. I heard this pastors 152 00:07:10,720 --> 00:07:12,400 Speaker 1: say this. My mom had me listen to it a 153 00:07:12,440 --> 00:07:15,200 Speaker 1: long time ago. He said, whether you change your dream, 154 00:07:15,280 --> 00:07:17,360 Speaker 1: people gonna talk, and if you don't change your dream, 155 00:07:17,400 --> 00:07:19,840 Speaker 1: people gonna talk. So the one thing that you do 156 00:07:20,000 --> 00:07:22,480 Speaker 1: know is whatever you choose to do, people still gonna talk. 157 00:07:22,560 --> 00:07:25,480 Speaker 1: People gonna talk. They're gonna criticize. You know what I mean, 158 00:07:25,600 --> 00:07:27,200 Speaker 1: I ain't. I ain't the most religious man, but they 159 00:07:27,200 --> 00:07:30,400 Speaker 1: say they criticize Jesus. They can criticize Jesus knowing God 160 00:07:31,160 --> 00:07:33,760 Speaker 1: ain't nobody got a chance. Man. At the end of 161 00:07:33,840 --> 00:07:35,760 Speaker 1: the day, bro, what I've learned is this game is 162 00:07:35,760 --> 00:07:39,640 Speaker 1: about durability because even like me missing this game versus 163 00:07:39,760 --> 00:07:42,480 Speaker 1: chiefs like, people don't understand that's that's the next man 164 00:07:42,560 --> 00:07:46,200 Speaker 1: of mentality. And when people step up and people start bawling, 165 00:07:46,640 --> 00:07:49,880 Speaker 1: then it starts to bring in curiosity, like oh, do 166 00:07:50,000 --> 00:07:51,960 Speaker 1: we really need him anymore? Like do we want to 167 00:07:52,000 --> 00:07:54,600 Speaker 1: pay him this month? Like, people don't understand the business 168 00:07:54,640 --> 00:07:56,840 Speaker 1: side of it, you know. So even when I got 169 00:07:56,920 --> 00:07:59,720 Speaker 1: the opportunity to be able to like step in and 170 00:07:59,800 --> 00:08:03,240 Speaker 1: get more targets and stuff, it was unfortunate because that's 171 00:08:03,240 --> 00:08:05,760 Speaker 1: when Doug was kind of dealing with his injuries and stuff. 172 00:08:06,040 --> 00:08:08,640 Speaker 1: But people don't understand that next man of mentality. And 173 00:08:08,720 --> 00:08:11,480 Speaker 1: that's how a lot of people get opportunities, and you don't. 174 00:08:11,680 --> 00:08:14,480 Speaker 1: You don't pray on people's downfall, but it's like, you 175 00:08:14,520 --> 00:08:17,720 Speaker 1: don't really get opportunities unless you know something happens and 176 00:08:17,760 --> 00:08:20,400 Speaker 1: then you step in and play. And that's the unfortunate 177 00:08:20,480 --> 00:08:23,400 Speaker 1: part about football because you want everybody to win because 178 00:08:23,400 --> 00:08:26,559 Speaker 1: there's enough success and love and and all that stuff 179 00:08:26,600 --> 00:08:30,320 Speaker 1: to go around, no question. And speaking of bowling, obviously 180 00:08:30,640 --> 00:08:33,160 Speaker 1: you had Russ last year and Gino came in and 181 00:08:33,240 --> 00:08:36,000 Speaker 1: everybody had the conversation like, what is you know gonna be? 182 00:08:36,160 --> 00:08:37,960 Speaker 1: Has been a backup for a while, he has been 183 00:08:37,960 --> 00:08:42,280 Speaker 1: struggling and he come out there striking. You know what's striking? 184 00:08:42,360 --> 00:08:44,520 Speaker 1: You get a Pro Bowl year? How happy are you 185 00:08:44,600 --> 00:08:47,199 Speaker 1: for him? Man? I'm real happy for Geno, man, Like 186 00:08:48,000 --> 00:08:49,680 Speaker 1: just to be able to see how far he's come. 187 00:08:49,800 --> 00:08:52,840 Speaker 1: Like his story, like everybody's story in the NFL isn't 188 00:08:52,840 --> 00:08:54,839 Speaker 1: the same. And when you kind of sit down and 189 00:08:54,920 --> 00:08:57,319 Speaker 1: you talk to people, it kind of just reminds you, 190 00:08:57,720 --> 00:08:59,880 Speaker 1: like the mentality that you gotta be able to have 191 00:09:00,040 --> 00:09:02,719 Speaker 1: to keep fighting because not everybody gets to come into 192 00:09:02,760 --> 00:09:05,360 Speaker 1: the league their first year and be able to beat 193 00:09:05,440 --> 00:09:08,120 Speaker 1: everything that they was in college. And so sometimes you 194 00:09:08,200 --> 00:09:10,480 Speaker 1: gotta be able to be patient, you gotta wait your turn, 195 00:09:10,679 --> 00:09:13,160 Speaker 1: like we said, the next man up mentality, and just 196 00:09:13,360 --> 00:09:16,800 Speaker 1: for him to just continue working, continue grinding, like staying 197 00:09:16,840 --> 00:09:19,200 Speaker 1: in it because he's been out of it for so long, bro, 198 00:09:19,360 --> 00:09:21,760 Speaker 1: So just to mentally still be able to stay in 199 00:09:21,840 --> 00:09:24,480 Speaker 1: it and mentally still be able to like do that 200 00:09:24,640 --> 00:09:26,679 Speaker 1: work in the off season as if he was preparing 201 00:09:26,720 --> 00:09:29,120 Speaker 1: to be able to play. Like I think that's the 202 00:09:29,160 --> 00:09:32,719 Speaker 1: stuff that goes past people's mindsets because they don't understand, like, 203 00:09:33,440 --> 00:09:35,640 Speaker 1: what six seven years he didn't really have a chance 204 00:09:35,720 --> 00:09:38,360 Speaker 1: to play. Imagine chasing a dream for six seven years 205 00:09:38,400 --> 00:09:41,000 Speaker 1: and you had to wait till year, year ten or 206 00:09:41,240 --> 00:09:43,400 Speaker 1: eleven just to be able to finally get your shot. 207 00:09:43,800 --> 00:09:45,959 Speaker 1: And once he got that opportunity, bro, like you could 208 00:09:46,000 --> 00:09:48,240 Speaker 1: tell he was ready, like you could tell like he 209 00:09:48,400 --> 00:09:50,760 Speaker 1: wanted it. And I'm just really happy that, like the 210 00:09:50,840 --> 00:09:53,640 Speaker 1: world is starting to notice like who he is as 211 00:09:53,679 --> 00:09:56,199 Speaker 1: a person, the type of quarterback he was. But I 212 00:09:56,240 --> 00:09:58,040 Speaker 1: mean I've seen him when he was playing Call of Duty. 213 00:10:02,040 --> 00:10:04,200 Speaker 1: I love you. You saw the greatness of the Call 214 00:10:04,280 --> 00:10:07,559 Speaker 1: of Duty game. Man, I knew I even had to 215 00:10:07,640 --> 00:10:09,800 Speaker 1: be on my stuff and he's gonna say, where's my team? 216 00:10:10,360 --> 00:10:14,000 Speaker 1: Where's my team? I had no choice but to come 217 00:10:14,080 --> 00:10:18,080 Speaker 1: to right right right? So how different is that? Because 218 00:10:18,080 --> 00:10:20,840 Speaker 1: I'm not sure Russ plays video games, but it got 219 00:10:20,960 --> 00:10:23,640 Speaker 1: to be different. I mean, I've never played video games 220 00:10:23,760 --> 00:10:25,640 Speaker 1: my quarterback, but that had to build. I mean I 221 00:10:25,720 --> 00:10:27,640 Speaker 1: heard Patrick my homes talk about it, you know, I 222 00:10:27,800 --> 00:10:31,680 Speaker 1: heard um Juju Smith Schuster. The relationship kind of got 223 00:10:31,720 --> 00:10:33,880 Speaker 1: built over Call of Duty and things like that. Like 224 00:10:34,000 --> 00:10:37,240 Speaker 1: does that does that help on the field production? Uh? Well, 225 00:10:37,280 --> 00:10:39,880 Speaker 1: I think I think everything goes hand in hand. I think, 226 00:10:40,000 --> 00:10:42,520 Speaker 1: like you know, even when Russ was here, I think 227 00:10:42,559 --> 00:10:44,719 Speaker 1: the thing that helped me out too was like when 228 00:10:44,760 --> 00:10:47,240 Speaker 1: you get to know people outside the field, you know, 229 00:10:47,400 --> 00:10:49,199 Speaker 1: you kind of get to hang with people outside and 230 00:10:49,280 --> 00:10:51,439 Speaker 1: kind of see what their interests are and stuff. Like that, 231 00:10:51,559 --> 00:10:54,719 Speaker 1: and you find similarities like just conversations even with me 232 00:10:54,840 --> 00:10:57,480 Speaker 1: and you like you start learning how people think. And 233 00:10:57,600 --> 00:11:00,240 Speaker 1: it's weird how like that translates to the field because 234 00:11:00,280 --> 00:11:03,360 Speaker 1: sometimes it's like I could have seen Russ running around 235 00:11:03,720 --> 00:11:06,320 Speaker 1: and I've seen him turn before he ever even turned, 236 00:11:06,440 --> 00:11:08,640 Speaker 1: and then I'm able to just get you know, get 237 00:11:08,679 --> 00:11:10,280 Speaker 1: out of my route and try to go get open. 238 00:11:10,760 --> 00:11:12,880 Speaker 1: And so I think it's similar like with Gino, Like 239 00:11:13,240 --> 00:11:15,320 Speaker 1: you know, we we started talking more and more off 240 00:11:15,360 --> 00:11:17,520 Speaker 1: the field, like when we started playing the game a lot, 241 00:11:18,040 --> 00:11:19,800 Speaker 1: And when you play the game a lot, it's like 242 00:11:19,920 --> 00:11:23,760 Speaker 1: you learn different strategies, you learn different techniques like do 243 00:11:23,840 --> 00:11:25,839 Speaker 1: you want to be aggressive? What type of team do 244 00:11:25,960 --> 00:11:28,240 Speaker 1: we have? Like we can't be as an aggressive, you know. 245 00:11:28,679 --> 00:11:30,959 Speaker 1: And so there's so many things that you learn, like 246 00:11:31,120 --> 00:11:33,160 Speaker 1: alone the way when you you gotta learn how to 247 00:11:33,200 --> 00:11:35,600 Speaker 1: play with different teammates and stuff like that. Some people 248 00:11:35,640 --> 00:11:38,120 Speaker 1: want to be the captain and Gino's like, no, I'm 249 00:11:38,120 --> 00:11:40,120 Speaker 1: the captain, Like I'm the quarterback, y'all listen to me, 250 00:11:40,559 --> 00:11:43,280 Speaker 1: you know. So it's really interesting. But the biggest thing 251 00:11:43,440 --> 00:11:45,360 Speaker 1: is like we gotta be able to learn how to 252 00:11:45,400 --> 00:11:47,600 Speaker 1: be all in and so I think you learn how 253 00:11:47,640 --> 00:11:50,200 Speaker 1: to do that, you know, with whoever is your quarterback, 254 00:11:50,559 --> 00:11:52,719 Speaker 1: once you learn who they are outside the field, and 255 00:11:53,200 --> 00:11:56,920 Speaker 1: everything internally starts to be able to click. Well, earlier 256 00:11:57,000 --> 00:11:59,400 Speaker 1: this year, you said, it's amazing what you can accomplish 257 00:11:59,480 --> 00:12:01,720 Speaker 1: with nobody of kids who gets the credit. They're talking 258 00:12:01,720 --> 00:12:05,439 Speaker 1: about the selflessness of the team and sacrifice, Like do 259 00:12:05,559 --> 00:12:07,880 Speaker 1: you think that mindset? And where did that come from? 260 00:12:07,960 --> 00:12:09,439 Speaker 1: What does that? You know what I mean, where where 261 00:12:09,480 --> 00:12:11,760 Speaker 1: did that come from? In your mind? Um? And has 262 00:12:11,800 --> 00:12:14,079 Speaker 1: that healthy team a lot this year? Man? It it 263 00:12:14,280 --> 00:12:16,959 Speaker 1: came so when we was playing basketball in high school, 264 00:12:16,960 --> 00:12:19,400 Speaker 1: our our coach Sha Sills used to always say it, 265 00:12:19,840 --> 00:12:22,120 Speaker 1: used to come up with a quote, and we all 266 00:12:22,200 --> 00:12:24,679 Speaker 1: used to be like this, dude, can't stop giving quotes. 267 00:12:25,080 --> 00:12:27,120 Speaker 1: But it was like you never know when you're gonna 268 00:12:27,200 --> 00:12:29,400 Speaker 1: need it, you know. And like for me, when you 269 00:12:29,480 --> 00:12:32,440 Speaker 1: come to the league, it's not like college because college 270 00:12:32,520 --> 00:12:35,400 Speaker 1: is more like a team thing, like his team oriented. 271 00:12:35,720 --> 00:12:37,360 Speaker 1: But you get to the league and it's like they 272 00:12:37,440 --> 00:12:40,280 Speaker 1: teach you how to be a business like sole proprietorship, 273 00:12:40,440 --> 00:12:42,480 Speaker 1: Like it's all about you gotta look out for yourself. 274 00:12:43,160 --> 00:12:46,000 Speaker 1: And I think like with that mentality, is hard to 275 00:12:46,200 --> 00:12:48,480 Speaker 1: kind of like get a group of guys together to 276 00:12:48,559 --> 00:12:50,959 Speaker 1: be a team. And so I think for me, like 277 00:12:51,240 --> 00:12:55,320 Speaker 1: just being able to still have that same approach of like, Okay, 278 00:12:55,559 --> 00:12:58,440 Speaker 1: stats doesn't matter as much as people say stats matter, 279 00:12:58,800 --> 00:13:00,880 Speaker 1: but then it's like, but stats is what gets you paid, 280 00:13:01,360 --> 00:13:02,800 Speaker 1: you know what I mean. So you gotta be able 281 00:13:02,800 --> 00:13:05,319 Speaker 1: to find that balance. And so for me it kind 282 00:13:05,360 --> 00:13:09,520 Speaker 1: of helps me like stay steadfast, like I'm balanced in 283 00:13:09,679 --> 00:13:11,719 Speaker 1: my approach because it's like I don't want to get 284 00:13:11,760 --> 00:13:15,000 Speaker 1: too selfish to where it's all about me, because that receiver, 285 00:13:15,720 --> 00:13:17,360 Speaker 1: the only way that you shine is if you get 286 00:13:17,400 --> 00:13:19,480 Speaker 1: the ball, you know what I mean. Like they don't 287 00:13:19,480 --> 00:13:22,640 Speaker 1: really talk about you making blocks like that or you 288 00:13:22,800 --> 00:13:24,680 Speaker 1: being able to run arounds to get other people open, 289 00:13:24,760 --> 00:13:27,000 Speaker 1: but those are other aspects of the game that help 290 00:13:27,120 --> 00:13:29,880 Speaker 1: you and that help your team. So I think for me, 291 00:13:30,040 --> 00:13:32,520 Speaker 1: like when we talk about like it's amazing what we 292 00:13:32,559 --> 00:13:34,600 Speaker 1: can accomplish when no one cares who gets the credit. 293 00:13:35,000 --> 00:13:37,520 Speaker 1: I mean, you know, it sounds cliche, but I think 294 00:13:37,559 --> 00:13:39,920 Speaker 1: of y'all as a defense. I used to kind of 295 00:13:40,000 --> 00:13:42,200 Speaker 1: define it by that a little bit. Um when y'all 296 00:13:42,240 --> 00:13:44,480 Speaker 1: had ll ob out there, it was like it didn't 297 00:13:44,480 --> 00:13:46,599 Speaker 1: matter who got the pick. Like, you know, if it 298 00:13:46,720 --> 00:13:49,200 Speaker 1: was Bobby, y'all was over there happy and celebrating. If 299 00:13:49,240 --> 00:13:51,840 Speaker 1: it was Early, y'all were celebrating. If Cam had a hit, 300 00:13:52,200 --> 00:13:55,360 Speaker 1: it was like y'all were celebrating as if it was 301 00:13:55,880 --> 00:13:58,880 Speaker 1: you making the play. And so it was like, you know, 302 00:13:59,040 --> 00:14:00,640 Speaker 1: that's something that I was trying to learn how to 303 00:14:00,679 --> 00:14:02,679 Speaker 1: be able to do as an offense. And so, you know, 304 00:14:02,760 --> 00:14:04,600 Speaker 1: I think early on in the season, I think it's 305 00:14:04,600 --> 00:14:06,800 Speaker 1: helped us out a lot because you know, we got 306 00:14:06,880 --> 00:14:09,280 Speaker 1: such a young team too, so we have that team 307 00:14:09,360 --> 00:14:11,920 Speaker 1: oriented feel and we don't have to get caught up 308 00:14:12,000 --> 00:14:14,040 Speaker 1: in I need to get my yards, I need to 309 00:14:14,120 --> 00:14:16,800 Speaker 1: get these touchdowns, I need to get these throws. It's 310 00:14:16,840 --> 00:14:18,400 Speaker 1: like we could kind of just go out there and 311 00:14:18,520 --> 00:14:21,640 Speaker 1: play and kind of like symbolic what it's like to 312 00:14:21,680 --> 00:14:23,400 Speaker 1: be able to play in high school in college. Again, 313 00:14:23,560 --> 00:14:25,840 Speaker 1: it's been really cool to watch the evolution, you know, 314 00:14:26,040 --> 00:14:28,240 Speaker 1: because the beginning of the year there was so much 315 00:14:28,440 --> 00:14:33,080 Speaker 1: like turmoil and controversy, you know, and and division, especially 316 00:14:33,120 --> 00:14:35,640 Speaker 1: when you talk about the Pete and Russ you know, 317 00:14:35,680 --> 00:14:38,240 Speaker 1: I mean even before the year before, before everything happened, 318 00:14:38,280 --> 00:14:40,360 Speaker 1: you know, you know, they were talking about firing Pete 319 00:14:40,840 --> 00:14:42,720 Speaker 1: and what they're gonna do with Russ and then you 320 00:14:42,800 --> 00:14:45,800 Speaker 1: know the trade happened. Then you got well, Pete, Pete's 321 00:14:45,840 --> 00:14:49,200 Speaker 1: gonna be lost. How how has that affected your mindset 322 00:14:49,320 --> 00:14:51,360 Speaker 1: in terms of like like leading the team, you know 323 00:14:51,400 --> 00:14:52,840 Speaker 1: what I mean? Because you knew it was gonna be 324 00:14:52,880 --> 00:14:55,080 Speaker 1: a lot on his plate. He had to be different 325 00:14:55,160 --> 00:14:56,640 Speaker 1: this year a little bit. You know. I know, Pete, 326 00:14:56,840 --> 00:14:59,920 Speaker 1: it's total regiment and and straight, like I'm gonna stay 327 00:15:00,080 --> 00:15:02,480 Speaker 1: same jokes, I'm gonna tell the same stories. I'm gonna 328 00:15:02,480 --> 00:15:05,520 Speaker 1: talk about the psychology of the game, but that he 329 00:15:05,680 --> 00:15:07,360 Speaker 1: had to feel it a little bit. You can tell 330 00:15:07,400 --> 00:15:09,680 Speaker 1: a little bit in his press conferences that he kind 331 00:15:09,680 --> 00:15:11,640 Speaker 1: of like felt the relief and felt you know what 332 00:15:11,680 --> 00:15:13,880 Speaker 1: I mean, Like he was he was jabbing back a 333 00:15:13,920 --> 00:15:15,680 Speaker 1: little bit more this year that I think he's ever 334 00:15:15,800 --> 00:15:19,000 Speaker 1: app Have you seen a difference to him, Uh? Yeah, 335 00:15:19,040 --> 00:15:20,960 Speaker 1: I think I have seen a difference in Pete. I 336 00:15:20,960 --> 00:15:23,920 Speaker 1: would I would say, like to start it off, I 337 00:15:24,000 --> 00:15:26,800 Speaker 1: think it was it was hard being able to lose Rus, 338 00:15:27,120 --> 00:15:29,240 Speaker 1: Like that's the first quarterback I was able to play 339 00:15:29,280 --> 00:15:32,160 Speaker 1: with for for seven straight years. You know what I mean, 340 00:15:32,280 --> 00:15:36,120 Speaker 1: and you just get used to knowing like, Okay, he's 341 00:15:36,160 --> 00:15:38,400 Speaker 1: gonna lead the team, like you know what I mean, 342 00:15:38,520 --> 00:15:40,320 Speaker 1: I just gotta be able to follow suit, like I 343 00:15:40,440 --> 00:15:42,320 Speaker 1: just gotta do my part, like whatever you need me 344 00:15:42,360 --> 00:15:44,400 Speaker 1: to do, like I got you like. So it's like 345 00:15:44,520 --> 00:15:47,320 Speaker 1: for seven years, I was able to grow little by 346 00:15:47,440 --> 00:15:50,800 Speaker 1: little each year into being able to have a different position, 347 00:15:51,200 --> 00:15:52,880 Speaker 1: and then all of a sudden, you know, then we 348 00:15:53,040 --> 00:15:55,560 Speaker 1: let Bobby go as well, and it's like we are 349 00:15:55,680 --> 00:15:58,440 Speaker 1: two main leaders who we depend on, who we rely on, 350 00:15:58,680 --> 00:16:01,040 Speaker 1: who we listened to, who can kind of steer the 351 00:16:01,120 --> 00:16:04,680 Speaker 1: ship because they've been here like almost throughout a decade. 352 00:16:05,080 --> 00:16:07,080 Speaker 1: It was able to help us, you know, like me 353 00:16:07,360 --> 00:16:11,040 Speaker 1: Al Wood, Quandre Digs, Jamal Adams like and many more 354 00:16:11,160 --> 00:16:14,760 Speaker 1: players like even Gabe Jackson. But now that we lost them, 355 00:16:15,240 --> 00:16:17,680 Speaker 1: it's like we've all had to be able to step 356 00:16:17,800 --> 00:16:19,640 Speaker 1: up in our own way to where we don't want 357 00:16:19,720 --> 00:16:21,920 Speaker 1: one person to just steer the ship. And so I 358 00:16:22,000 --> 00:16:24,040 Speaker 1: think Pete has done a great job and just being 359 00:16:24,080 --> 00:16:27,680 Speaker 1: able to allow us to to explore other options, like 360 00:16:27,840 --> 00:16:30,360 Speaker 1: you know, we've always had three captains, but now he 361 00:16:30,480 --> 00:16:32,360 Speaker 1: made it to where like, okay, we can have four 362 00:16:32,440 --> 00:16:34,920 Speaker 1: now maybe we can have five or more because you 363 00:16:35,040 --> 00:16:38,200 Speaker 1: never know what a title brings and how other people 364 00:16:38,240 --> 00:16:40,240 Speaker 1: can be able to step up in that position to 365 00:16:40,440 --> 00:16:43,720 Speaker 1: like help us be successful. But sometimes when you when 366 00:16:43,800 --> 00:16:46,360 Speaker 1: we only have we would have three, like I wouldn't 367 00:16:46,360 --> 00:16:48,920 Speaker 1: want to speak up, like Quandre wouldn't want to speak up, 368 00:16:49,000 --> 00:16:50,200 Speaker 1: you know what I mean, because we don't want to 369 00:16:50,320 --> 00:16:53,840 Speaker 1: overstep anybody's toes. But now, like since we lost our 370 00:16:53,920 --> 00:16:57,440 Speaker 1: two best leaders, we kind of created this this thing 371 00:16:57,560 --> 00:16:59,560 Speaker 1: that works for us where it's like, man, it doesn't 372 00:16:59,560 --> 00:17:01,400 Speaker 1: matter if you player, if you don't play, like if 373 00:17:01,440 --> 00:17:04,040 Speaker 1: you see something, speak up, like because we got to 374 00:17:04,080 --> 00:17:06,960 Speaker 1: be able to keep each other accountable because we lost 375 00:17:07,080 --> 00:17:09,399 Speaker 1: like the two best players that help us stay accountable, 376 00:17:09,920 --> 00:17:12,000 Speaker 1: no question, no question. You see something to say something, 377 00:17:12,240 --> 00:17:15,600 Speaker 1: But tell me about how how Russ's leadership had helped 378 00:17:15,640 --> 00:17:17,760 Speaker 1: you grow and and the things you learned from him 379 00:17:17,800 --> 00:17:19,800 Speaker 1: and the things you learned from Bobby. You know, those 380 00:17:19,840 --> 00:17:21,679 Speaker 1: are two great players for a long time, and then 381 00:17:21,880 --> 00:17:24,480 Speaker 1: they have to rub off of you. Oh yeah, man, 382 00:17:24,560 --> 00:17:27,920 Speaker 1: I mean you almost had no choice for everything to 383 00:17:28,040 --> 00:17:30,440 Speaker 1: rub off on you. Like it's like when you're in 384 00:17:30,480 --> 00:17:32,959 Speaker 1: the room full of wise people, like you're gonna come 385 00:17:33,000 --> 00:17:34,920 Speaker 1: out and you're gonna remember a whole bunch of stuff 386 00:17:34,920 --> 00:17:37,600 Speaker 1: in that conversation. That may be different when you know 387 00:17:37,720 --> 00:17:40,560 Speaker 1: you're around people that that don't know how that much 388 00:17:40,600 --> 00:17:43,360 Speaker 1: acknowledges them. So I was just sitting there being able 389 00:17:43,400 --> 00:17:46,240 Speaker 1: to talk to Bobby, like to start off with him, 390 00:17:46,320 --> 00:17:49,040 Speaker 1: like man, you know we're talking about how you and 391 00:17:49,160 --> 00:17:52,000 Speaker 1: him branched off and became your own agent, you know, 392 00:17:52,160 --> 00:17:54,879 Speaker 1: being able to learn like different segments like that, like 393 00:17:55,400 --> 00:17:57,480 Speaker 1: being able to learn from Bobby about some of the 394 00:17:57,800 --> 00:18:01,040 Speaker 1: um the work he does outside in the unity. Um 395 00:18:01,119 --> 00:18:04,000 Speaker 1: people don't understand. They think players don't never do anything, 396 00:18:04,400 --> 00:18:06,840 Speaker 1: and it's like, no, we do. We just don't want 397 00:18:06,880 --> 00:18:09,439 Speaker 1: the credit. You know, when you watch like how Bobby 398 00:18:09,520 --> 00:18:11,920 Speaker 1: has always been a pro. He goes about his business. 399 00:18:12,200 --> 00:18:14,440 Speaker 1: He doesn't say much, but he doesn't have to because 400 00:18:14,480 --> 00:18:17,320 Speaker 1: when he when he speaks, everybody listens, you know what 401 00:18:17,400 --> 00:18:19,720 Speaker 1: I mean. It's like it's really cool to be able 402 00:18:19,760 --> 00:18:21,800 Speaker 1: to see and and I mean you you also see 403 00:18:21,840 --> 00:18:24,280 Speaker 1: it like um, when he's over there with the rams, 404 00:18:24,359 --> 00:18:27,320 Speaker 1: like how everybody's talking about him and stuff. It's like, well, 405 00:18:27,359 --> 00:18:29,440 Speaker 1: I mean that's how he always been. You know what 406 00:18:29,520 --> 00:18:31,360 Speaker 1: I mean, he's always been that person how to look 407 00:18:31,400 --> 00:18:33,680 Speaker 1: out for you, and I needed to talk to him 408 00:18:33,880 --> 00:18:36,800 Speaker 1: like in and he sat outside with me and talk 409 00:18:36,920 --> 00:18:39,399 Speaker 1: to me like you know, and it's weird talking to 410 00:18:39,520 --> 00:18:41,720 Speaker 1: a grown man, bro, Like don't give me wrong, Like 411 00:18:42,080 --> 00:18:43,840 Speaker 1: you don't never want to tell people what's going on 412 00:18:43,960 --> 00:18:46,320 Speaker 1: with your life. But it was like he was able 413 00:18:46,359 --> 00:18:47,879 Speaker 1: to sit there and talk to me. And I mean, 414 00:18:47,960 --> 00:18:50,120 Speaker 1: and it's the same with Russ to like the things 415 00:18:50,200 --> 00:18:52,480 Speaker 1: that I've learned from Russ, like his approach to the game, 416 00:18:53,000 --> 00:18:55,159 Speaker 1: like he wants to be great, Like he wants to 417 00:18:55,240 --> 00:18:57,520 Speaker 1: be the best honestly, bro, I don't think I've ever 418 00:18:57,600 --> 00:18:59,359 Speaker 1: seen a time when he came into the building and 419 00:18:59,400 --> 00:19:01,719 Speaker 1: he wasn't ready to work, you know what I mean. 420 00:19:01,800 --> 00:19:04,320 Speaker 1: And so sometimes when you have people at that mindset 421 00:19:04,840 --> 00:19:07,440 Speaker 1: that's like I'm gonna do whatever it takes, regardless of 422 00:19:07,560 --> 00:19:09,440 Speaker 1: what it is that I gotta do. You want to 423 00:19:09,480 --> 00:19:11,880 Speaker 1: be able to attach yourself to that, and you want 424 00:19:11,920 --> 00:19:13,680 Speaker 1: to be able to say, look, bro, it don't matter. 425 00:19:13,760 --> 00:19:15,280 Speaker 1: So for me, it's like it don't matter if it's 426 00:19:15,320 --> 00:19:17,920 Speaker 1: cold outside, it don't matter if it's snowing. This is 427 00:19:18,000 --> 00:19:21,120 Speaker 1: my job. Like I can't make any excuses. So it's 428 00:19:21,160 --> 00:19:23,280 Speaker 1: like the things that I learned from Russ is like, 429 00:19:23,800 --> 00:19:26,480 Speaker 1: there's no excuses to what it is that you're trying 430 00:19:26,480 --> 00:19:28,879 Speaker 1: to accomplish in this life, Like either you're gonna do 431 00:19:29,000 --> 00:19:31,159 Speaker 1: it or you're not gonna do it. And so just 432 00:19:31,240 --> 00:19:33,080 Speaker 1: to be able to see his approach, to be able 433 00:19:33,119 --> 00:19:35,520 Speaker 1: to see how he would he would take the leading things. 434 00:19:36,000 --> 00:19:38,080 Speaker 1: And that's the biggest thing I've learned as a captain 435 00:19:38,280 --> 00:19:40,800 Speaker 1: is um penny Hart said that he was like, it's 436 00:19:40,840 --> 00:19:43,520 Speaker 1: hard to be a captain and be a friend. And 437 00:19:44,320 --> 00:19:46,000 Speaker 1: you know, when you're a captain, there's gonna be some 438 00:19:46,119 --> 00:19:48,200 Speaker 1: words that have to be said. You're gonna have to 439 00:19:48,280 --> 00:19:50,720 Speaker 1: call people out, You're gonna have to keep people accountable. 440 00:19:51,160 --> 00:19:53,560 Speaker 1: And that's the stuff that we don't like because you know, 441 00:19:53,720 --> 00:19:57,040 Speaker 1: relationships going this league. But when you're a captain, like 442 00:19:57,680 --> 00:20:00,520 Speaker 1: you on that thin line of like all right, let 443 00:20:00,560 --> 00:20:02,520 Speaker 1: me let me learn how to speak to people. I 444 00:20:02,600 --> 00:20:04,480 Speaker 1: gotta learn how to meet people where there I can't 445 00:20:04,520 --> 00:20:07,119 Speaker 1: talk to everybody the same. You gotta be able to 446 00:20:07,240 --> 00:20:09,400 Speaker 1: know and so those are the things that I've kind 447 00:20:09,440 --> 00:20:11,880 Speaker 1: of learned, bro. And and it's interesting because you even 448 00:20:11,920 --> 00:20:14,760 Speaker 1: take that approach with the coaches. It's not just the players, 449 00:20:14,800 --> 00:20:16,520 Speaker 1: but you got to know how to talk to the coaches. 450 00:20:16,880 --> 00:20:19,520 Speaker 1: You gotta understand how to talk to the players. And 451 00:20:19,920 --> 00:20:27,760 Speaker 1: that stuff helps you a long way. Even when you're married. Well, 452 00:20:27,840 --> 00:20:29,960 Speaker 1: I'm telling you it's hard to it's hard to keep 453 00:20:30,000 --> 00:20:33,680 Speaker 1: a girl happy. But just just just do your part. Yeah, 454 00:20:33,760 --> 00:20:36,520 Speaker 1: do your part. Look, look understand. And that's a huge 455 00:20:36,560 --> 00:20:38,920 Speaker 1: part of the leadership in general, leading the football team 456 00:20:39,000 --> 00:20:41,280 Speaker 1: and being a leader and being uh having guy's look 457 00:20:41,280 --> 00:20:43,720 Speaker 1: at it. It's not about pleasing everybody. It's it's it's 458 00:20:43,720 --> 00:20:47,600 Speaker 1: about having respect and love for everybody and understanding, Hey, hey, 459 00:20:47,880 --> 00:20:49,600 Speaker 1: I need more from you and you ain't got an 460 00:20:49,720 --> 00:20:52,119 Speaker 1: m F nobody to get more from Hey. There's a 461 00:20:52,200 --> 00:20:55,040 Speaker 1: way I can talk to you to say, hey, you 462 00:20:55,119 --> 00:20:56,919 Speaker 1: gotta be better than this, and I know you are 463 00:20:57,000 --> 00:20:58,840 Speaker 1: better than this than to say you suck man, what 464 00:20:58,920 --> 00:21:00,840 Speaker 1: are you doing? No, it ain't that. Ain't that ain't 465 00:21:00,840 --> 00:21:02,840 Speaker 1: gonna get you the results you're looking for. It's like, hey, 466 00:21:02,920 --> 00:21:05,400 Speaker 1: come up to you, Hey, brother, let's let's work. Let's work. 467 00:21:05,480 --> 00:21:07,600 Speaker 1: Let's do Hey, what can we do to improve this? 468 00:21:07,800 --> 00:21:09,159 Speaker 1: Like I know you better than this, We know you 469 00:21:09,240 --> 00:21:11,160 Speaker 1: better than what's going on, so that we can get 470 00:21:11,200 --> 00:21:12,879 Speaker 1: you to play how you used to play and how 471 00:21:12,960 --> 00:21:15,040 Speaker 1: we know you can play. And I think that's something 472 00:21:15,520 --> 00:21:17,359 Speaker 1: I learned, I mean throughout my time in Seattle, in 473 00:21:17,400 --> 00:21:19,280 Speaker 1: my time in San Francisco. You know, when they were 474 00:21:19,359 --> 00:21:22,000 Speaker 1: just looking at me like an old man. Um is 475 00:21:22,080 --> 00:21:25,200 Speaker 1: that it ain't about being being liked by everybody. It's 476 00:21:25,240 --> 00:21:28,600 Speaker 1: it's it's when everybody knows that we're working towards the 477 00:21:28,680 --> 00:21:30,639 Speaker 1: same thing, and we're working in the same direction, that 478 00:21:31,040 --> 00:21:33,960 Speaker 1: your every action is working towards that, then there's nothing 479 00:21:34,000 --> 00:21:36,480 Speaker 1: but respect there. And it's not nobody's gonna be upset 480 00:21:36,520 --> 00:21:39,280 Speaker 1: with that. If winning is their goal, if winning a 481 00:21:39,400 --> 00:21:41,840 Speaker 1: championship in the Super Bowl is their goal, then they'll 482 00:21:41,920 --> 00:21:44,680 Speaker 1: never get upset because every they'll know that every action 483 00:21:44,760 --> 00:21:47,640 Speaker 1: that you're doing, every every movement, every thought that you're 484 00:21:47,680 --> 00:21:52,280 Speaker 1: processing is moving us in that direction. Hey, yes, sir, Yes, sir. 485 00:21:52,359 --> 00:21:54,359 Speaker 1: And that's why Bobby, I'm sure Bobby ain't what didn't 486 00:21:54,359 --> 00:21:57,800 Speaker 1: feel uncomfortable at all in that conversation, Like that's that's 487 00:21:57,880 --> 00:22:00,080 Speaker 1: that's what we lose in the black community, subtized, like 488 00:22:00,359 --> 00:22:02,280 Speaker 1: we feel like we can't talk to each other as 489 00:22:02,320 --> 00:22:04,880 Speaker 1: grown man and and talk about our issues, talk about 490 00:22:04,880 --> 00:22:06,840 Speaker 1: our problems, talk about it, you know, what's going on, 491 00:22:07,040 --> 00:22:10,720 Speaker 1: and help each other. You can, Yeah, you can. I 492 00:22:10,800 --> 00:22:13,119 Speaker 1: mean my thing is you can. But like the way 493 00:22:13,240 --> 00:22:16,840 Speaker 1: society is, bro, they they want you to be vulnerable, 494 00:22:17,240 --> 00:22:19,360 Speaker 1: and then as soon as you're vulnerable, they that's when 495 00:22:19,359 --> 00:22:21,440 Speaker 1: they tear you down. Yeah. But but you know, a 496 00:22:21,520 --> 00:22:25,479 Speaker 1: locker roommate ain't really a society. Not in the locker room. Bro, 497 00:22:25,640 --> 00:22:28,679 Speaker 1: you can be as vulnerable as needed. Because that's the thing, bro, 498 00:22:28,800 --> 00:22:31,479 Speaker 1: Like these are not only your teammates, but like these 499 00:22:31,520 --> 00:22:34,560 Speaker 1: are your brothers. And like this is why businesses try 500 00:22:34,600 --> 00:22:36,720 Speaker 1: to be able to like emulate what we do on 501 00:22:36,800 --> 00:22:39,359 Speaker 1: the football field and what we do within you know, 502 00:22:39,520 --> 00:22:42,680 Speaker 1: our team, because it's like, how do you all come 503 00:22:42,760 --> 00:22:45,200 Speaker 1: to play every single day? Well, I mean some people 504 00:22:45,240 --> 00:22:47,040 Speaker 1: want to play for money, some people play for their 505 00:22:47,080 --> 00:22:49,159 Speaker 1: faith in God, some people play for their family, some 506 00:22:49,280 --> 00:22:51,600 Speaker 1: people play for them. But you gotta be able to 507 00:22:51,680 --> 00:22:54,159 Speaker 1: like talk to everybody because not everybody's gonna come in 508 00:22:55,200 --> 00:22:58,000 Speaker 1: all the time just ready to go. There's only a 509 00:22:58,080 --> 00:23:00,680 Speaker 1: few people that's like that, and so some people gonna 510 00:23:00,680 --> 00:23:02,560 Speaker 1: be down. They're not gonna feel like practicing and you 511 00:23:02,600 --> 00:23:04,159 Speaker 1: gotta go talk to him and be like, hey, bro, 512 00:23:04,320 --> 00:23:06,840 Speaker 1: like whatever you need, I'm right here with you. And 513 00:23:07,000 --> 00:23:08,800 Speaker 1: even when I started going through it, I gotta be 514 00:23:08,840 --> 00:23:10,600 Speaker 1: able to have people that say, hey, I'm right there 515 00:23:10,680 --> 00:23:12,840 Speaker 1: with you. And so like, for me, the biggest thing 516 00:23:12,880 --> 00:23:15,800 Speaker 1: I've learned throughout my life SHIRM is just you know, 517 00:23:16,680 --> 00:23:19,240 Speaker 1: relate to people, you know what I mean. Like, so 518 00:23:19,320 --> 00:23:21,480 Speaker 1: when I talk to people and they say, man, I 519 00:23:21,640 --> 00:23:23,640 Speaker 1: I struggle with this and I do this, and I'm 520 00:23:23,680 --> 00:23:26,840 Speaker 1: like right there with you, and then I start telling 521 00:23:26,920 --> 00:23:30,160 Speaker 1: them stories and they'd be like whoa, I'm like, don't 522 00:23:30,160 --> 00:23:35,800 Speaker 1: repeat that. Yeah, like like only use it if you 523 00:23:35,880 --> 00:23:38,119 Speaker 1: got to help somebody or something, but but just no, 524 00:23:38,880 --> 00:23:40,920 Speaker 1: at the end of the day, if it does come out, 525 00:23:40,960 --> 00:23:42,480 Speaker 1: like at the end of day, I struggled, just like 526 00:23:42,600 --> 00:23:45,560 Speaker 1: you struggle, but we all in this together. Like, And 527 00:23:45,880 --> 00:23:48,240 Speaker 1: that's the biggest thing I told people. And they asked me, like, 528 00:23:48,280 --> 00:23:51,080 Speaker 1: who is your best teammate? I always say you, But 529 00:23:51,280 --> 00:23:53,920 Speaker 1: it's just like but it's because like it amazed me 530 00:23:54,040 --> 00:23:56,920 Speaker 1: how you would always stay out there with people even 531 00:23:57,000 --> 00:24:00,639 Speaker 1: if you knew they might not make the team. And 532 00:24:00,720 --> 00:24:02,560 Speaker 1: it was just the fact that I'm like you just 533 00:24:02,680 --> 00:24:04,920 Speaker 1: sitting there and teaching them and teaching them, and you know, 534 00:24:05,040 --> 00:24:07,680 Speaker 1: you would think like, oh, like, okay, if it was 535 00:24:07,720 --> 00:24:10,640 Speaker 1: somebody like a Tarik Wool and he's having an amazing year, 536 00:24:10,680 --> 00:24:12,840 Speaker 1: that you would teach somebody like him because you see 537 00:24:12,880 --> 00:24:15,480 Speaker 1: how great that he can be, and it's like, okay, 538 00:24:15,600 --> 00:24:17,639 Speaker 1: Like I helped him because of that. But it was like, no, 539 00:24:18,520 --> 00:24:21,720 Speaker 1: it didn't matter who it was, like, if they were good, 540 00:24:21,840 --> 00:24:23,879 Speaker 1: if they weren't as good, if they belonged in the 541 00:24:23,960 --> 00:24:26,240 Speaker 1: league or not, Like you took out the time to listen. 542 00:24:26,680 --> 00:24:28,720 Speaker 1: You took out the time to help him. And when 543 00:24:28,760 --> 00:24:30,240 Speaker 1: they asked me, like, what was some of the best 544 00:24:30,280 --> 00:24:33,480 Speaker 1: advice you got, I told him one was from my dad, 545 00:24:33,520 --> 00:24:36,280 Speaker 1: who talked about, like, you're gonna see a lot of 546 00:24:36,359 --> 00:24:38,480 Speaker 1: people out there that's great at what they do, but 547 00:24:38,640 --> 00:24:41,320 Speaker 1: just remember they drafted you because they already liked what 548 00:24:41,520 --> 00:24:43,600 Speaker 1: you do and what you bring to the table. So 549 00:24:43,800 --> 00:24:46,240 Speaker 1: never changed that. And then the one that I would 550 00:24:46,240 --> 00:24:48,880 Speaker 1: tell him that you told me was that you're gonna 551 00:24:48,960 --> 00:24:51,600 Speaker 1: lose a lot in practice, but you're gonna win a 552 00:24:51,680 --> 00:24:53,720 Speaker 1: lot in the games. And I mean a lot of 553 00:24:53,800 --> 00:24:55,600 Speaker 1: that was because of the defense we were going against 554 00:24:55,640 --> 00:24:57,960 Speaker 1: for sure, but you said that, you talked about how 555 00:24:58,000 --> 00:25:00,600 Speaker 1: the games were gonna be a lot easier in practice. 556 00:25:01,080 --> 00:25:03,440 Speaker 1: And when I learned that approach, I was like, man, 557 00:25:03,560 --> 00:25:05,560 Speaker 1: like my rookie year, I'm like, bro, this is way 558 00:25:05,760 --> 00:25:09,000 Speaker 1: easier than I expected. But you had to be able 559 00:25:09,000 --> 00:25:11,719 Speaker 1: to understand that, Okay, you might lose your going against 560 00:25:11,800 --> 00:25:14,160 Speaker 1: like the best safety in the world, the best corner 561 00:25:14,200 --> 00:25:16,080 Speaker 1: in the world, the best strong safety in the world. 562 00:25:16,080 --> 00:25:17,840 Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying is so if you can 563 00:25:18,000 --> 00:25:20,320 Speaker 1: figure out how to compete with these guys every day, 564 00:25:20,640 --> 00:25:22,120 Speaker 1: if you could try to figure out how to beat 565 00:25:22,160 --> 00:25:24,560 Speaker 1: them every single day, I want to get you all 566 00:25:24,640 --> 00:25:27,200 Speaker 1: the time on the right side. And if I beat 567 00:25:27,240 --> 00:25:29,480 Speaker 1: you one play, I couldn't do that same route for 568 00:25:29,600 --> 00:25:32,720 Speaker 1: like five weeks because you were you know what I mean. 569 00:25:33,160 --> 00:25:35,440 Speaker 1: So it just taught me how to be able to 570 00:25:35,680 --> 00:25:38,040 Speaker 1: like be a better player, and it taught me how 571 00:25:38,080 --> 00:25:40,760 Speaker 1: to be able to go into that different mentality looking 572 00:25:40,840 --> 00:25:43,480 Speaker 1: to get more out of this NFL season. Well, now 573 00:25:43,760 --> 00:25:47,280 Speaker 1: was the perfect time to download FanDuel America's number one 574 00:25:47,359 --> 00:25:50,760 Speaker 1: sports book because new customers getta No Sweat first beat 575 00:25:51,000 --> 00:25:54,560 Speaker 1: up to one thousand dollars. 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You watch your table like, okay, no, 593 00:26:46,200 --> 00:26:48,960 Speaker 1: now you you didn't dip and Doug bet. I see 594 00:26:49,000 --> 00:26:50,600 Speaker 1: a little bit of this, I see a little bit 595 00:26:50,640 --> 00:26:54,560 Speaker 1: of that. I say Okay, all right, you cook. I 596 00:26:54,680 --> 00:26:57,600 Speaker 1: tell people bro like they don't understand like a lot 597 00:26:57,680 --> 00:26:59,760 Speaker 1: of it is. Yeah, you look, you learn from people, 598 00:27:00,280 --> 00:27:02,240 Speaker 1: but you know, there was also a lot of stuff 599 00:27:02,240 --> 00:27:04,320 Speaker 1: that I didn't do that I always did in college. 600 00:27:04,720 --> 00:27:07,159 Speaker 1: But it's about scheme, you know what I mean, And 601 00:27:07,200 --> 00:27:10,920 Speaker 1: they don't understand. Like there's some offensive coordinators where when 602 00:27:10,960 --> 00:27:13,920 Speaker 1: you're you, you gotta adapt your game. To me, that's 603 00:27:13,960 --> 00:27:15,880 Speaker 1: the biggest way of how you stay in the league. 604 00:27:16,320 --> 00:27:19,080 Speaker 1: And so it's like you get one coordinator and they're 605 00:27:19,119 --> 00:27:21,880 Speaker 1: like a man, one move and go. I can't sit 606 00:27:21,920 --> 00:27:24,119 Speaker 1: at the line, or they'd be like, once you make 607 00:27:24,200 --> 00:27:26,240 Speaker 1: your move, they'd be like, get out your break, don't 608 00:27:26,280 --> 00:27:28,639 Speaker 1: do nothing at the top, just speak cut it and 609 00:27:28,760 --> 00:27:31,240 Speaker 1: the ball gotta be there. And so it's like, you know, 610 00:27:31,359 --> 00:27:33,840 Speaker 1: through the course of me having bevel, through the course 611 00:27:33,880 --> 00:27:36,359 Speaker 1: of me having shoddy, like I've learned how to be 612 00:27:36,440 --> 00:27:39,160 Speaker 1: able to adapt my game to where I got better 613 00:27:39,359 --> 00:27:41,560 Speaker 1: in some of the areas that I never even knew 614 00:27:41,560 --> 00:27:44,159 Speaker 1: I needed to work on. Now. When Shane came in, 615 00:27:44,760 --> 00:27:46,719 Speaker 1: he like, hey man, you can freak it a little bit, 616 00:27:46,800 --> 00:27:49,280 Speaker 1: like you can do this and this, And I'm like, okay, 617 00:27:49,680 --> 00:27:52,920 Speaker 1: how you speaking my language. So it's like you gotta 618 00:27:53,040 --> 00:27:55,000 Speaker 1: learn how to be able to adapt in the league 619 00:27:55,040 --> 00:27:58,639 Speaker 1: because that's what ultimately helps keep you here as well. Right, 620 00:27:58,920 --> 00:28:01,200 Speaker 1: and and speaking of you, brought Reek up. What a 621 00:28:01,320 --> 00:28:04,080 Speaker 1: year he having. I mean, think about how far he's 622 00:28:04,160 --> 00:28:07,280 Speaker 1: come from from training camp and you know, real raw 623 00:28:07,480 --> 00:28:10,720 Speaker 1: dude and a pro bowler in his rookie year leading 624 00:28:10,760 --> 00:28:13,280 Speaker 1: the league and picks like, tell me about him and 625 00:28:13,359 --> 00:28:16,160 Speaker 1: what you've seen from him throughout the year. Bro, him 626 00:28:16,240 --> 00:28:20,199 Speaker 1: and d K I it just don't make any sense. Bro, 627 00:28:21,280 --> 00:28:28,080 Speaker 1: this this these are people we created on Maddens speed 628 00:28:29,760 --> 00:28:33,720 Speaker 1: like jumping. Like when I seen when I seen DK 629 00:28:33,880 --> 00:28:36,399 Speaker 1: and Re goo at it in camp and I was 630 00:28:36,480 --> 00:28:40,440 Speaker 1: just like, Bro, like DK fast too, you know, and 631 00:28:40,520 --> 00:28:42,720 Speaker 1: I'm I'm seeing a Ree like side by side and 632 00:28:43,200 --> 00:28:45,000 Speaker 1: then all of a sudden, like just throughout camp and 633 00:28:45,080 --> 00:28:47,920 Speaker 1: going into the season, I'm like, Bro, I'm like, if 634 00:28:48,000 --> 00:28:51,320 Speaker 1: this dude understands like his ability, I'm like, he could 635 00:28:51,400 --> 00:28:54,200 Speaker 1: sit on whatever around he want to sit on, because 636 00:28:54,240 --> 00:28:57,000 Speaker 1: it don't I'm like, in the league, bro, quarterbacks is 637 00:28:57,080 --> 00:28:59,440 Speaker 1: on point. They're gonna throw the ball, keep you on stride. 638 00:28:59,480 --> 00:29:01,520 Speaker 1: All that. When I saw with my homes through that 639 00:29:01,680 --> 00:29:05,640 Speaker 1: post and Riek was like four yards behind dude and 640 00:29:05,800 --> 00:29:08,880 Speaker 1: came back and almost picked it. I was like, yeah, 641 00:29:08,920 --> 00:29:13,440 Speaker 1: at this point, bro, just leave alone. At this point, Bro, 642 00:29:13,520 --> 00:29:16,280 Speaker 1: it's like, as long as he just stays the course. 643 00:29:16,720 --> 00:29:20,000 Speaker 1: There's some things, Bro, within technique we can't get away 644 00:29:20,080 --> 00:29:24,400 Speaker 1: with his players, but like he could lose certain things 645 00:29:24,440 --> 00:29:27,440 Speaker 1: and technique and still win. And so if he can 646 00:29:27,480 --> 00:29:33,240 Speaker 1: continue to get that technique. On that play, his footwork 647 00:29:33,280 --> 00:29:35,840 Speaker 1: at the line was terrible. He was beat so bad 648 00:29:35,920 --> 00:29:38,800 Speaker 1: he started pointing at the safety. He realized the safety 649 00:29:38,920 --> 00:29:40,680 Speaker 1: wasn't gonna be there. It was like I just gotta 650 00:29:40,760 --> 00:29:45,080 Speaker 1: run and almost booked it. Like this is his rookie years. 651 00:29:45,160 --> 00:29:47,240 Speaker 1: The biggest leap you take as a players from your 652 00:29:47,280 --> 00:29:49,440 Speaker 1: rookie to your second year because because then you're going 653 00:29:49,480 --> 00:29:51,960 Speaker 1: into your second year, like your confidence is through the roof. 654 00:29:52,200 --> 00:29:54,600 Speaker 1: Like I'm practicing with a whole different mentality, because it's 655 00:29:54,640 --> 00:29:56,000 Speaker 1: not like I'm trying to figure out if I be 656 00:29:56,040 --> 00:29:57,760 Speaker 1: long or not. I'm trying to figure out if I 657 00:29:57,800 --> 00:29:59,320 Speaker 1: can do it. I know I can do it, Like 658 00:29:59,440 --> 00:30:02,360 Speaker 1: I know I'm the dude. Now I'm just I'm sharpening 659 00:30:02,480 --> 00:30:04,960 Speaker 1: the knife. Like now I'm not trying to find a knife. 660 00:30:04,960 --> 00:30:07,800 Speaker 1: I'm sharpened and like y'all know, it's sharp, like let 661 00:30:07,880 --> 00:30:10,480 Speaker 1: me know. And that's what's been so cool to see 662 00:30:10,520 --> 00:30:13,000 Speaker 1: with him. And this week y'all got I mean, between 663 00:30:13,080 --> 00:30:15,040 Speaker 1: him and Sauce for rookie of the deepest rookie of 664 00:30:15,080 --> 00:30:17,080 Speaker 1: the year. And and you gotta you gotta deal with 665 00:30:17,160 --> 00:30:22,400 Speaker 1: the Jets and young DJ Reid sa my dog, your dog, DJ. 666 00:30:22,640 --> 00:30:26,120 Speaker 1: What you what you're seeing from them? Many they're doing 667 00:30:26,160 --> 00:30:28,960 Speaker 1: the same thing. Man, they bawling. I mean we you know, 668 00:30:29,040 --> 00:30:31,040 Speaker 1: I've seen what it was like to already be with 669 00:30:31,200 --> 00:30:34,400 Speaker 1: DJ on the team, Like dude as a dog. You know, 670 00:30:34,520 --> 00:30:36,440 Speaker 1: he don't get the respect that he deserves as well, 671 00:30:36,560 --> 00:30:39,000 Speaker 1: Like I felt like he had a chance to be 672 00:30:39,120 --> 00:30:41,600 Speaker 1: able to go on the Pro Bowl. Um had a 673 00:30:41,640 --> 00:30:44,280 Speaker 1: Pro Bowl like season, but he just real sticky man, 674 00:30:44,480 --> 00:30:46,920 Speaker 1: like you know, I always say, like him and Trey 675 00:30:46,960 --> 00:30:49,560 Speaker 1: Brown remind me of a nat They just all in 676 00:30:49,680 --> 00:30:52,560 Speaker 1: the way, you know, but you gotta be able to 677 00:30:52,640 --> 00:30:54,840 Speaker 1: learn how to play maneuver around that. I feel like 678 00:30:54,880 --> 00:30:57,120 Speaker 1: he's done everything and more that the Jets even wanted 679 00:30:57,160 --> 00:30:59,600 Speaker 1: him to do. Like you look at Sauce, like Sauce 680 00:30:59,720 --> 00:31:02,320 Speaker 1: and a man Bro as a first round pick, and 681 00:31:02,400 --> 00:31:05,160 Speaker 1: he is not disappointed. You know, he's lived up to 682 00:31:05,200 --> 00:31:09,080 Speaker 1: that first round hype and probably even outplayed the first 683 00:31:09,200 --> 00:31:11,720 Speaker 1: round hype. And that's something that's really really hard to 684 00:31:11,800 --> 00:31:14,560 Speaker 1: be able to do. You know, you're talking about Sauce 685 00:31:14,680 --> 00:31:17,320 Speaker 1: and Reek having a chance to be all pro, you know, 686 00:31:17,440 --> 00:31:22,520 Speaker 1: and and and what's what's scary, bro, is they're still learning, right, 687 00:31:22,760 --> 00:31:24,520 Speaker 1: Like you know what I mean, Like when you're in 688 00:31:24,560 --> 00:31:27,320 Speaker 1: the league, it's like you're learning each and every year, 689 00:31:27,440 --> 00:31:31,080 Speaker 1: but at some point you're like, all right, ability kind 690 00:31:31,120 --> 00:31:34,680 Speaker 1: of starts to outweigh you know, everything else. But it's like, Bro, 691 00:31:34,800 --> 00:31:38,760 Speaker 1: these dudes are in year one and they're learning. If 692 00:31:38,800 --> 00:31:42,120 Speaker 1: they continue to learn the pace that they're going, like, Bro, 693 00:31:42,560 --> 00:31:44,200 Speaker 1: they have a chance to be like one of the 694 00:31:44,280 --> 00:31:46,840 Speaker 1: best at the game of football has ever seen. They're 695 00:31:47,000 --> 00:31:50,800 Speaker 1: learning there, They're they're growing, and the moment isn't too 696 00:31:50,880 --> 00:31:53,160 Speaker 1: big for him. At corner. It's hard. It's hard to 697 00:31:53,200 --> 00:31:55,480 Speaker 1: play sixteen games in the league at corner as a vet. 698 00:31:55,960 --> 00:31:57,800 Speaker 1: You know, as a rookie, you kind of like you 699 00:31:57,920 --> 00:31:59,320 Speaker 1: kind of like they're gonna throw at me a lot. 700 00:32:00,120 --> 00:32:02,280 Speaker 1: I don't know, this Dude's technique. I don't know what 701 00:32:02,400 --> 00:32:05,240 Speaker 1: I'm gonna get like, and these dudes are just embracing 702 00:32:05,280 --> 00:32:08,400 Speaker 1: the moment, living in it, thriving in it. It's cool 703 00:32:08,440 --> 00:32:09,600 Speaker 1: to see. I mean one of them, I mean they 704 00:32:09,840 --> 00:32:11,920 Speaker 1: both might make the All Protein first or second team, 705 00:32:11,960 --> 00:32:13,400 Speaker 1: you know what I mean. I mean, it's it's a 706 00:32:13,440 --> 00:32:15,720 Speaker 1: crazy year for them too. You got any questions for me? No? 707 00:32:16,000 --> 00:32:18,640 Speaker 1: Before we get out of here, Man, if I would 708 00:32:18,640 --> 00:32:20,120 Speaker 1: have known, I was gonna have a chance to ask 709 00:32:20,160 --> 00:32:24,600 Speaker 1: you questions. Um, let's see, how how how has everything 710 00:32:24,760 --> 00:32:28,560 Speaker 1: been with just like you leaving football? Like you know 711 00:32:28,600 --> 00:32:30,680 Speaker 1: how A lot of times people say, like you go 712 00:32:30,880 --> 00:32:34,600 Speaker 1: through that that crazy, not crazy, but the depression and 713 00:32:34,640 --> 00:32:37,400 Speaker 1: stuff whenever you're done playing, Like, was it easier for 714 00:32:37,480 --> 00:32:39,600 Speaker 1: you because I heard you always wanted to kind of 715 00:32:39,680 --> 00:32:42,320 Speaker 1: do what it is that you're doing now. Well, well, 716 00:32:42,400 --> 00:32:46,920 Speaker 1: I'm crazy in general. We're all a little crazy in general. 717 00:32:47,200 --> 00:32:49,239 Speaker 1: So I think the hardest thing for people when they 718 00:32:49,320 --> 00:32:53,640 Speaker 1: transition is the loss of structure, Like for I don't know, 719 00:32:55,000 --> 00:32:57,600 Speaker 1: thirty years, for some of us, you got structured. You know, 720 00:32:57,720 --> 00:32:59,920 Speaker 1: at this time of the year, it's gonna be training care. 721 00:33:00,320 --> 00:33:01,840 Speaker 1: You know, at this time of the year, it's gonna 722 00:33:01,840 --> 00:33:03,480 Speaker 1: be the season. You know, I'm gonna be training in 723 00:33:03,520 --> 00:33:06,040 Speaker 1: this time of the year. You, I mean from college 724 00:33:06,200 --> 00:33:08,640 Speaker 1: till now. You gotta schedule, like you gotta schedule in 725 00:33:08,680 --> 00:33:11,720 Speaker 1: your locker you know what time, meetings at eight, breakfast 726 00:33:11,760 --> 00:33:14,440 Speaker 1: at this time, this and this and this, and when 727 00:33:14,520 --> 00:33:17,160 Speaker 1: you lose that and when you show up in August 728 00:33:17,280 --> 00:33:19,080 Speaker 1: of your life and you don't have a training camp 729 00:33:19,440 --> 00:33:21,240 Speaker 1: and you don't have a schedule, and you don't know 730 00:33:21,280 --> 00:33:23,120 Speaker 1: what you're gonna do. You might have all the money 731 00:33:23,160 --> 00:33:24,960 Speaker 1: in the world in your account, but you don't have 732 00:33:25,640 --> 00:33:27,640 Speaker 1: you don't feel like you have direction or purpose like 733 00:33:27,680 --> 00:33:30,000 Speaker 1: I've been putting all my not just putting my eggs 734 00:33:30,000 --> 00:33:32,120 Speaker 1: in one bucket. Because even if you're like I got 735 00:33:32,200 --> 00:33:33,840 Speaker 1: money in real estate, I got this, I got that, 736 00:33:34,120 --> 00:33:36,640 Speaker 1: I got passive income, you're not an expert at that. 737 00:33:36,840 --> 00:33:38,600 Speaker 1: You're about to move out of a space that you're 738 00:33:38,600 --> 00:33:41,800 Speaker 1: an expert in and go be a novice somewhere else. 739 00:33:42,480 --> 00:33:44,520 Speaker 1: And I think that's the hardest part for guys, is 740 00:33:44,560 --> 00:33:48,480 Speaker 1: to find purpose and to find the locker room and 741 00:33:48,520 --> 00:33:50,840 Speaker 1: the mentality and everything, and so all that kind of 742 00:33:50,960 --> 00:33:52,560 Speaker 1: all that weight kind of starts to follow on you 743 00:33:52,640 --> 00:33:54,160 Speaker 1: at the same time, and if you don't get from 744 00:33:54,240 --> 00:33:57,840 Speaker 1: under it and go find something, get stuff. Yeah, So 745 00:33:58,360 --> 00:34:00,720 Speaker 1: I would say my last question would be it is so, 746 00:34:00,920 --> 00:34:04,240 Speaker 1: you've been a Pro Bowler, hall of Fame, you're about 747 00:34:04,240 --> 00:34:06,080 Speaker 1: to be a Hall of Famer at some point. You've 748 00:34:06,120 --> 00:34:09,759 Speaker 1: been an All Pro. So outside of football, what's your 749 00:34:09,920 --> 00:34:13,600 Speaker 1: Pro Bowl? What's your Hall of Fame, and what's your 750 00:34:14,000 --> 00:34:17,160 Speaker 1: all pro? I think being dad, you got you got 751 00:34:17,239 --> 00:34:19,279 Speaker 1: some time before before it happened, but you might want 752 00:34:19,280 --> 00:34:21,160 Speaker 1: to get on it. But being a dad, bro, that's 753 00:34:21,520 --> 00:34:23,400 Speaker 1: that's gonna be my hall of Fame, my all pro. 754 00:34:23,880 --> 00:34:25,560 Speaker 1: Not everything, you know, being that trying to be a 755 00:34:25,600 --> 00:34:28,880 Speaker 1: good husband. You know, obviously the transition there was different 756 00:34:28,920 --> 00:34:31,799 Speaker 1: to the relationship kind of changes because you go from 757 00:34:31,880 --> 00:34:34,000 Speaker 1: not being here a majority of the time, you know 758 00:34:34,040 --> 00:34:36,000 Speaker 1: what I mean. You got your time, your season, your 759 00:34:36,080 --> 00:34:37,919 Speaker 1: nd season, you're out of season too, here all the time, 760 00:34:38,120 --> 00:34:40,080 Speaker 1: and your wife gotta adjusted that. She should be like, hey, 761 00:34:40,160 --> 00:34:41,719 Speaker 1: go somewhere, get out of here. I'm used to you 762 00:34:41,840 --> 00:34:43,759 Speaker 1: not being in here all the time. So to go 763 00:34:44,200 --> 00:34:47,680 Speaker 1: make yourself busy. And so that's it now, just trying 764 00:34:47,680 --> 00:34:49,640 Speaker 1: to be great at my career, you know, trying to 765 00:34:49,680 --> 00:34:51,560 Speaker 1: set a great example from my son and my daughter, 766 00:34:52,160 --> 00:34:54,239 Speaker 1: trying to raise them right, you know, trying to coach. 767 00:34:54,280 --> 00:34:58,120 Speaker 1: I'm coaching his basketball team just coming up this season 768 00:34:58,200 --> 00:35:02,680 Speaker 1: in January, and and I think when you when you lose, 769 00:35:02,840 --> 00:35:07,400 Speaker 1: like the drive are are are not the drive? But like, uh, 770 00:35:07,800 --> 00:35:10,840 Speaker 1: I'm not consumed with football anymore, so, so I'm not 771 00:35:11,520 --> 00:35:13,719 Speaker 1: obsessed with being the best of that. So now I'm 772 00:35:13,760 --> 00:35:15,719 Speaker 1: obsessed with being the best dad. And not that I 773 00:35:15,840 --> 00:35:17,719 Speaker 1: wasn't obsessed with being the best dad while I was playing, 774 00:35:17,840 --> 00:35:20,000 Speaker 1: but it's hard to be obsessed with two things. Yeah, 775 00:35:20,000 --> 00:35:23,480 Speaker 1: it's tough. So now I'm totally obsessed. Like I'm at 776 00:35:23,520 --> 00:35:27,200 Speaker 1: every practice, at every every meet, at every meeting. I'm 777 00:35:27,280 --> 00:35:29,479 Speaker 1: in everything I can be in and it it gives 778 00:35:29,520 --> 00:35:31,960 Speaker 1: me purpose. It gives me so much fulfillment because I'm 779 00:35:31,960 --> 00:35:33,480 Speaker 1: having fun. I get to see them grow, I can 780 00:35:33,560 --> 00:35:35,840 Speaker 1: see them learn. So that's it right now, that's just 781 00:35:35,960 --> 00:35:38,160 Speaker 1: being a great dad, a great father. In this job. 782 00:35:38,280 --> 00:35:39,759 Speaker 1: You know, I get to talk football. I get to 783 00:35:39,800 --> 00:35:42,400 Speaker 1: talk football all the time. And um, I get to 784 00:35:42,400 --> 00:35:44,520 Speaker 1: see you guys and can talk to you. It brings 785 00:35:44,600 --> 00:35:47,400 Speaker 1: me joy. Well, I appreciate it, man, I you know, 786 00:35:47,560 --> 00:35:50,120 Speaker 1: like I said last year, I was like, you know, 787 00:35:50,239 --> 00:35:51,880 Speaker 1: the more and more I got better, I was like, 788 00:35:52,120 --> 00:35:54,479 Speaker 1: you know, if it was one person that I would 789 00:35:54,480 --> 00:35:56,440 Speaker 1: want to be, like, oh yeah, I could see the 790 00:35:56,560 --> 00:35:58,799 Speaker 1: transition because you see me from when I first came 791 00:35:58,880 --> 00:36:01,399 Speaker 1: in and like you see everything that I'm doing now, 792 00:36:02,080 --> 00:36:04,520 Speaker 1: and you know, like I said, regardless of anybody ever 793 00:36:04,600 --> 00:36:07,279 Speaker 1: appreciates it, Like for me, I had to learn how 794 00:36:07,320 --> 00:36:09,840 Speaker 1: to appreciate it myself. I wanted to go to at 795 00:36:09,920 --> 00:36:12,960 Speaker 1: least one Pro Bowl receiver because I already did it 796 00:36:13,040 --> 00:36:15,800 Speaker 1: as special teams. But I mean for me, it's like 797 00:36:16,760 --> 00:36:18,600 Speaker 1: I'm a pro bowler in my heart, Like you know 798 00:36:18,600 --> 00:36:20,320 Speaker 1: what I mean, I'm a pro bowler from my team. 799 00:36:20,440 --> 00:36:23,040 Speaker 1: Like everything that I'm looking for, it taught me not 800 00:36:23,239 --> 00:36:24,880 Speaker 1: to look for it and let it come find you. 801 00:36:25,440 --> 00:36:27,640 Speaker 1: And so like I'm I'm learning how to appreciate all 802 00:36:27,680 --> 00:36:30,520 Speaker 1: the stuff that's right there, like people say, being where 803 00:36:30,560 --> 00:36:32,640 Speaker 1: your feet are, because I can always sit here and 804 00:36:32,719 --> 00:36:35,840 Speaker 1: like you said, be upset about why am I not 805 00:36:35,920 --> 00:36:38,600 Speaker 1: getting credit? Why this isn't it? Or I can appreciate 806 00:36:39,280 --> 00:36:41,319 Speaker 1: like this my second time being Walter pay the man 807 00:36:41,400 --> 00:36:44,480 Speaker 1: of the Year, you know, a second well, I don't 808 00:36:44,480 --> 00:36:46,960 Speaker 1: think I can say the other one yet. The other 809 00:36:47,000 --> 00:36:50,920 Speaker 1: one hadn't happen yet. Oh the Steve Largen Award, Like 810 00:36:50,960 --> 00:36:54,000 Speaker 1: it's my second time I won that, so yeah. So 811 00:36:54,120 --> 00:36:56,640 Speaker 1: I mean it's like learning how to be, you know, 812 00:36:56,880 --> 00:36:59,680 Speaker 1: thankful for everything around you, like like you said, man, 813 00:36:59,760 --> 00:37:02,520 Speaker 1: Like man, I got a fiance, I got friends from 814 00:37:02,600 --> 00:37:05,200 Speaker 1: high school, from middle school that that I still talked to. 815 00:37:05,320 --> 00:37:07,320 Speaker 1: I got a chance to help my family and friends. 816 00:37:07,440 --> 00:37:09,960 Speaker 1: Like you know, Claypool said it a long time ago. 817 00:37:10,040 --> 00:37:13,239 Speaker 1: He said he already won, you know, right way said 818 00:37:13,280 --> 00:37:16,000 Speaker 1: he already won. So like for me, it's like, bro, 819 00:37:16,120 --> 00:37:19,160 Speaker 1: I've already won. Everything else is just an addition. You know, 820 00:37:19,480 --> 00:37:22,200 Speaker 1: when you hang up the cleats in fifty years and 821 00:37:22,320 --> 00:37:24,200 Speaker 1: you and you look back on it all the cool 822 00:37:24,280 --> 00:37:26,040 Speaker 1: things you did as a player, you gonna be like, man, 823 00:37:26,120 --> 00:37:27,800 Speaker 1: that was pretty cool. Like I was, I was special. 824 00:37:27,840 --> 00:37:29,640 Speaker 1: I was out there cooking, I did my thing. And 825 00:37:29,719 --> 00:37:31,439 Speaker 1: then you're gonna start to do stuff with your kids 826 00:37:31,480 --> 00:37:32,920 Speaker 1: and with your wife and with your family, and you're 827 00:37:32,920 --> 00:37:36,320 Speaker 1: gonna be like, I mean, that was fun, but watching 828 00:37:36,400 --> 00:37:38,680 Speaker 1: my kid do it, it's gonna be like and I'm 829 00:37:38,680 --> 00:37:40,400 Speaker 1: sure your dad would tell you the same thing. It 830 00:37:40,560 --> 00:37:44,480 Speaker 1: brings you a different level of like, like, man, that's 831 00:37:44,600 --> 00:37:47,320 Speaker 1: like it almost feels better than when you did it 832 00:37:47,400 --> 00:37:50,759 Speaker 1: because you created somebody, you worked with him. You you you, 833 00:37:51,040 --> 00:37:53,160 Speaker 1: you see them through the ups and downs. You know. 834 00:37:53,280 --> 00:37:55,040 Speaker 1: It's almost like the young kids you work with. I'm 835 00:37:55,080 --> 00:37:57,680 Speaker 1: sure young receivers you see you work with over your 836 00:37:57,719 --> 00:37:59,520 Speaker 1: career and you see him do better, and you're like 837 00:38:00,040 --> 00:38:02,759 Speaker 1: and like, I remember when you was here, and now 838 00:38:02,840 --> 00:38:06,400 Speaker 1: you're here when it's your son, Oh my god. I 839 00:38:06,440 --> 00:38:08,200 Speaker 1: see him make baskets or I see him win a 840 00:38:08,280 --> 00:38:10,120 Speaker 1: track meet, and I'll be sitting there. I'll be the 841 00:38:10,120 --> 00:38:12,279 Speaker 1: first want to pick him up from the Finnish. I'll 842 00:38:12,280 --> 00:38:14,680 Speaker 1: be like, hey, I don't care, and it don't even 843 00:38:14,719 --> 00:38:17,279 Speaker 1: matter if you want. It matters that I've seen you 844 00:38:17,480 --> 00:38:20,680 Speaker 1: get better and sometimes we win, sometimes we don't. But 845 00:38:21,120 --> 00:38:23,200 Speaker 1: if we got better, I don't give a dangn what 846 00:38:23,280 --> 00:38:27,360 Speaker 1: the result is. The process approach. That's the best approach, bro, 847 00:38:27,440 --> 00:38:29,640 Speaker 1: because if you teach your kid it's all about winning, 848 00:38:30,320 --> 00:38:35,000 Speaker 1: then you you lose sight on progression over perfection. Falling 849 00:38:35,000 --> 00:38:36,759 Speaker 1: in love with the process, That's what I tell him 850 00:38:36,800 --> 00:38:38,520 Speaker 1: every time. Falling up. We're gonna get in love with 851 00:38:38,560 --> 00:38:41,600 Speaker 1: the process, the results will come. Like eventually we win everything, 852 00:38:41,920 --> 00:38:43,879 Speaker 1: but we got to fall in love with getting better 853 00:38:44,040 --> 00:38:47,920 Speaker 1: day after day, play after play, practice after practice. The 854 00:38:48,000 --> 00:38:51,839 Speaker 1: results to come. If we work, it'll come. Yeah, Well, 855 00:38:51,880 --> 00:38:54,680 Speaker 1: he's speaking like dad of the year. Man, I appreciate that. 856 00:38:55,120 --> 00:38:56,759 Speaker 1: I can't wait till you have a kid. I'll be 857 00:38:57,360 --> 00:38:59,839 Speaker 1: we bring him out there with the track with our kids. Man, 858 00:39:00,000 --> 00:39:02,879 Speaker 1: I have a kid. It's on right right, he's gonna 859 00:39:02,880 --> 00:39:06,359 Speaker 1: be a little scooter too. Hopefully he about six pot 860 00:39:06,440 --> 00:39:12,600 Speaker 1: six five. Look, I don't know, but we're gonna we're 861 00:39:12,600 --> 00:39:15,200 Speaker 1: gonna pay on the six six five like five too 862 00:39:15,360 --> 00:39:22,719 Speaker 1: five three. I appreciate you. Yeah, I ain gonna take 863 00:39:22,760 --> 00:39:24,359 Speaker 1: too much more of your time. I know you got 864 00:39:24,560 --> 00:39:26,799 Speaker 1: more treatment and you get better, but it's damn good 865 00:39:26,840 --> 00:39:30,360 Speaker 1: to hear from you always the same man likewise appreciate you. 866 00:39:30,440 --> 00:39:32,520 Speaker 1: Even asked me to be on Man, I was waiting 867 00:39:32,560 --> 00:39:35,160 Speaker 1: for the call. Well, you gotta pick up you as 868 00:39:35,200 --> 00:39:36,920 Speaker 1: your time, you know what I mean. I try to 869 00:39:37,000 --> 00:39:38,960 Speaker 1: catch you on your hot and then it was hard. 870 00:39:39,320 --> 00:39:41,560 Speaker 1: We asked around and then we caught you injured, and 871 00:39:41,600 --> 00:39:45,239 Speaker 1: I was like, yeah, I'm glad we was able to 872 00:39:45,280 --> 00:39:48,160 Speaker 1: make it work. Man, I really appreciate it. I appreciate 873 00:39:48,200 --> 00:39:50,279 Speaker 1: you to know you have a great day. Brother, all right, 874 00:39:50,320 --> 00:40:11,440 Speaker 1: you to love you, bro, I love you too. The 875 00:40:11,680 --> 00:40:12,080 Speaker 1: volume