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Speaker 2: what you miss We have been talking off and on

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Speaker 2: about all afternoon the two planes that flew into Sacramento

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Speaker 2: carrying thirty six illegal immigrants. DeSantis set this up with

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Speaker 2: a flight from New Mexico. And I found what speech

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Speaker 2: that Newsom gave because Newsom's very upset. He's threatening kidnapping charges,

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Speaker 2: human trafficking charges against DeSantis. He said back in January

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Speaker 2: twenty nineteen when he first got inaugurated governor that California

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Speaker 2: will quote be a sanctuary to all who seek it.

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Speaker 2: That was among his first words spoke. And is the

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Speaker 2: governor of California a sanctuary to all?

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Speaker 3: Well, he's not saying they're not going to welcome them,

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Speaker 3: but he just thinks it was underhanded to do this.

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Speaker 1: So what that they were deceived? This is the best place.

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Speaker 2: What you're being imagined being deceived and you're sent to

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Speaker 2: the best place in America.

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Speaker 1: Huh.

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Speaker 3: They're complaining because they have court date papers in the

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Speaker 3: courts are in New York and places far away from.

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Speaker 2: Sacond so you could fix that. We got court was cruel.

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Speaker 2: We got to take a bus. But wow, I mean

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Speaker 2: that was That was one of those opening lines. Well

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Speaker 2: he's a phony.

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Speaker 3: Now, we have spent a lot of time since the

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Speaker 3: pandemic talking about the rampant fraud that affected the Employment

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Speaker 3: Development Department, that's California's unemployment office. Thirty billion plus dollars

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Speaker 3: ripped off from our unemployment system by all sorts of fraudsters.

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Speaker 1: Including prisoners and prisoners friends.

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Speaker 3: Uh, We've mentioned this story many times, but now we're

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Speaker 3: going to move to another one that's kind of under

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Speaker 3: the radar, and it comes from a term that has

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Speaker 3: really gotten popular in the last few years. It is

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Speaker 3: the term ghosting. John, You've heard the term ghosting. People

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Speaker 3: say this a lot when with dates or people they know.

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Speaker 3: I got ghosted.

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Speaker 2: I've heard it with a couple of guys who run

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Speaker 2: restaurants have told me they get ghosted by job applicants.

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Speaker 2: They're hired, but they never show even what's.

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Speaker 3: The loss there, except you feel like you've got the

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Speaker 3: position filled and then you don't.

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Speaker 1: But you're not paying anything, like.

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Speaker 2: They've been ghosted. It's like, yeah, you start.

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Speaker 1: Monday, Monday comes no sign of them.

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Speaker 3: Well, this is about the California community college system and

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Speaker 3: ghost students. You see, colleges are very aggressive and trying

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Speaker 3: very popular in the last I don't know, ten years.

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Speaker 3: You see all the commercials. You can get your degree online.

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Speaker 3: That's right. You don't have to actually physically come to

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Speaker 3: a classroom, study online, take your tests online, get your

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Speaker 3: diploma online.

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Speaker 2: We have a fake school. We're offering a fake degree online.

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Speaker 3: Well, in this case, they aren't fake schools, they're real

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Speaker 3: community colleges, but the students are fake and it's because

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Speaker 3: the fraudsters are looking for financial aid. The story starts

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Speaker 3: out with a great one manned by the name of

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Speaker 3: Richard Valacenti. He got a check in the mail for

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Speaker 3: notified him the money was a mistake. It was an

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Speaker 3: overpayment of a three thousand dollars pel grant. He used

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Speaker 3: to attend Saddleback College in Orange County. Well Valescenti is

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Speaker 3: sixty four years old, and he never applied for any pelgrants.

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Speaker 3: He's actually a radiation on collegist at UC Davis. He's

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Speaker 1: So they used his.

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Speaker 3: Personal information to make him a student, a ghost student,

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Speaker 3: to apply for money grant money.

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Speaker 1: That's what the fraudsters are up to.

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Speaker 3: And when you read this story in the San Francisco

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Speaker 3: College online application system since July alone, it's about twenty

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Speaker 1: Those numbers can pile.

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Speaker 2: Up, what's four hundred and sixty thousand times how many dollars?

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Speaker 3: Community Colleges are required to accept any student in the

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Speaker 2: And there you go, because you let in so many

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Speaker 2: security number. That's just not fair. Well, this is what happens.

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Speaker 2: And then they close the schools because of their stupid

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Speaker 2: COVID Bannock. Look at all the layers of stupid here. Okay, yeah,

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Speaker 2: there's no social Security number. COVID shuts down the schools forever.

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Speaker 1: And then you're allowed to take.

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Speaker 2: Your course online. Nobody ever has to see your face.

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Speaker 2: You can take your online course. You don't have to

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Speaker 2: have your screen on.

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Speaker 3: If the fraudsters are human, but they use bots, software

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Speaker 3: algorithms to mimic enrolled students. They talk to Kim Rich,

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Speaker 1: These fake students.

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Speaker 3: She looks for consecutive ID numbers, similar email patterns that

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Speaker 3: and seventies and indicate that these people are too.

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Speaker 1: Old for community college. Well, why didn't you make them

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Speaker 1: come in to get their loan? Well, eventually they do.

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Speaker 1: That is that often happens? Yes? Do you think banks

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Speaker 2: You think Bank of America does it for people who

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Speaker 3: The Chancellor's office now requires colleges to send monthly reports

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Speaker 3: of their fake students and administrators. Apparently in one case

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Speaker 3: at City College in San Francisco, twenty nine bogus students

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Speaker 3: received over twenty two thousand dollars in pelgrants. Administrators just

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Speaker 3: blocked five hundred and five ghost students from this summer's

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Speaker 3: classes and more than forty three hundred suspicious enrollments. More

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Speaker 1: And how many got through.

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Speaker 2: They're only talking about the ones that they that they caught, right,

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Speaker 2: but there's probably hundreds and thousands that blew through.

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Speaker 3: So this Pierce College story, this woman had two eight

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Speaker 3: it was the same bots right well, one department eliminated

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Speaker 3: eighty ghost students and another eighty showed up within an hour.

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Speaker 1: Eighty ghosts an hour.

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Speaker 3: Total enrollment appears was at seventy seven hundred before the

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Speaker 2: Just like that, So like a third of the enrollment

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Speaker 3: Well, you can see how easy this is to do

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Speaker 3: this because you're just doing this all by remote.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, explications. So why did you end all that?

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Speaker 2: How about you want to enroll and you want money,

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Speaker 2: then you have to show up, and you show up

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Speaker 2: and we want to see ID and we want your fingerprint.

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Speaker 3: Well, some have rules you have to show up at

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Speaker 3: least once to the class, because that would defeat the

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Speaker 3: point of recruiting more students who can who can't get

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Speaker 3: they want to work on their own time. Are stealing

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Speaker 3: the idea of people who are sixty five years old.

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Speaker 1: Right, Yeah, that's what he did, right, They took this

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Speaker 2: Right, So when you have to show up, then okay,

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Speaker 2: that scam is toast. There's no way around it. Once

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Speaker 2: that's the whole bureaucracy in California, from top to bottom,

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Speaker 2: this money that gets blown out. It's nobody cares start

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Speaker 1: Well, apparently some.

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Speaker 3: Of the college people interviewed here, the strisils are trying

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Speaker 2: Yes, the professor cares because she has a class scheduled

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Speaker 2: So yeah, she cares. But the people who set up

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Speaker 2: what's gonna happen if we never require a human being

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Speaker 1: Of course, this goes on constantly, all day, all night.

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Speaker 2: There are thousands, hundreds of thousands of people around the planet.

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Speaker 2: We're scamming one program or another. All right, we got

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Speaker 3: six forty dot com or use the iHeartRadio app. We

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Speaker 3: had mentioned last week that a major insurance company had

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Speaker 3: All State is also not taking on any new home

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Speaker 3: insurance policies. This, of course, is the way business is

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Speaker 3: companies like the oil companies are all evil, right, so

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Speaker 1: One of the reasons for this.

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Speaker 3: Problem in California is these insurance companies are limited in

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Speaker 3: how much they can raise the rates to cover their losses.

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Speaker 1: So if your response is, well, they're bluffing.

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Speaker 3: They're probably making record profits and paying their executive way

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Speaker 1: Well, if that.

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Speaker 3: Were true, then they would continue to do business because

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Speaker 3: they'd be reaping the rewards. Instead, these two insurance companies

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Speaker 3: and loss, not in the government world, is that when businesses,

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Speaker 3: you've got to make decisions, and when business hits a downturn,

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Speaker 3: you have to decide what to do. And in this case,

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Speaker 3: they're going to allow the insurance who are already with

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Speaker 3: buy homes because a lot of people want homeowners insurance, right,

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Speaker 3: that's protection it is.

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Speaker 2: I know firsthand it is harder to get insurance and

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Speaker 2: everything is more expensive, and part of it is the

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Speaker 2: policies from the idiot California government. This this cal fart Lara,

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Speaker 2: who's the insurance commissioner that the dumb poops in California elected.

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Speaker 2: He could not run a vegetable stand and he's in

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Speaker 2: they're gonna go and and this is what happened at

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Speaker 1: Well, you know what, I like the way they put that

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Speaker 2: You know, eventually some places become unensurable. I've read about

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Speaker 1: Yes, kay, he runs. He runs that entire.

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Speaker 2: But no, it didn't really work on our roof, just

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Speaker 2: the way our roof is designed.

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Speaker 1: Oh really, it's too complicated to explain.

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Speaker 3: But if I live in a cooler area, so that

444
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Speaker 3: don't really have outrageous condition.

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Speaker 2: But there was just not room the way the roof

446
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Speaker 2: was designed for them to put it put on enough

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Speaker 2: panels to make it worthwhile.

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Speaker 1: Oh okay, uh says here.

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Speaker 3: In many cases, solar units become relatively uneconomical before they

450
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Speaker 3: reach the end of their expected lifespan, but now more

451
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Speaker 3: efficient designs of all that regular intervals, meaning it can

452
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Speaker 3: prove cheaper to replace solar panels that are only ten

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Speaker 3: or fifteen years old with updated versions. I didn't think

454
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Speaker 3: of that. You're right, if a better solar panel comes

455
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Speaker 3: along that's more efficient and better for your home, you

456
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Speaker 3: might replace it sooner than the twenty five year life

457
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Speaker 3: I cited earlier, because this could be better for your

458
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Speaker 3: energy usage. So that means there could be more of

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Speaker 3: these removed and headed to the scrap bin well somewhere.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, there's the copper, silicon, and the silver, and over

461
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Speaker 2: sixty percent of the value is in three percent of

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Speaker 2: the weight of a solar panel, so it's difficult to

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Speaker 2: extract the copper, the silicon, and the silver from the

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Speaker 2: overall panel.

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Speaker 1: One plant.

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Speaker 3: In France, solar panels are painstakingly taken apart to recover

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Speaker 3: those precious metals that you mentioned. Each solar panel contains

468
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Speaker 3: only tiny fragments of these precious materials, and those fragments

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Speaker 3: are so intertwined with the other com oons that until

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Speaker 3: now it had not been economically viable to separate them.

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Speaker 3: But I guess this plant in France has figured out

472
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Speaker 3: some way to do it, maybe more efficiently. Yeah, you're right,

473
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Speaker 3: over sixty percent of the values contained in three percent

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Speaker 3: of the weight of the panels. Yeah, so that tells

475
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Speaker 3: you how on ei of that is and how you

476
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Speaker 3: really have to dig for what's worth anything in there?

477
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Speaker 3: Right right now, they just crush them right and shred

478
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Speaker 3: the waste.

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Speaker 1: Right. These are things that nobody thought about.

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Speaker 3: The same thing with the battery disposal for you know,

481
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Speaker 3: electric cars, No one really thought about how that could

482
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Speaker 3: be some sort of a nightmare, you know.

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Speaker 2: You know, there's everything is about excessive hype and hysteria now,

484
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Speaker 2: and I think I am reading now more and more

485
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Speaker 2: articles about people in politics and in the media and

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Speaker 2: other people in the industry going well, yeah, we don't have.

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Speaker 1: An electrical grid.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, there's nowhere to expose of these batteries after they

489
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Speaker 2: run its course, What are we gonna do with them?

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Speaker 5: Uh?

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Speaker 2: Yeah, we don't really have the materials to make the batteries,

492
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Speaker 2: do we They're all in other foreign countries. We don't

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Speaker 2: have any control over that. Like wow, and you just

494
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Speaker 2: read a few of these and they're not advocacy articles,

495
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Speaker 2: they're realistic. It's like, yeah, we don't control most of

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Speaker 2: the materials.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, we don't.

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Speaker 3: We don't have an electrical grid not probably not big

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Speaker 3: enough to support what we're planning. More coming up, Johnny

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Speaker 3: Ken k if I AM six forty. We're live everywhere.

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Speaker 2: It's the iHeartRadio app. I'm hungry, me too, debor Mark

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Speaker 2: Live the twenty four hour. Well, we can't split anything

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Speaker 2: right now.

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Speaker 1: I'm gonna go important. I'm gonna make some veggie stir fry.

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Speaker 1: I mean, if you want, somebody can bring you some

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Speaker 1: extra tomorrow. No, that's right. Thanks.

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Speaker 4: So you're listening to John and Ken on demand from

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Speaker 4: KFI AM six forty.

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Speaker 2: We're finishing up here after four o'clock. You've probably missed

510
00:27:05,640 --> 00:27:08,440
Speaker 2: a lot. Go to the iHeartRadio app for Johnny Cannon

511
00:27:08,480 --> 00:27:10,959
Speaker 2: demand the podcast. Catch up on it all. We had

512
00:27:10,960 --> 00:27:12,240
Speaker 2: a lot of stuff went on today.

513
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Speaker 3: More, you know, Slip John a message and maybe you'll

514
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Speaker 3: come to your house and do another three hour show.

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Speaker 1: Live and in person.

516
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Speaker 3: You know, I complain to get done too early now,

517
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Speaker 3: so I got plenty in me here, do you?

518
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Speaker 1: So I'm going to start doing personal shows for people.

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Speaker 3: We were just talking, I think in the last segment

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Speaker 3: about you know some places that go after the very

521
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Speaker 3: wealthy in extreme ways.

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Speaker 1: We had actor Mark Ruffalow talk about taxing billionaires ninety percent.

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Speaker 3: One of the places where the wealthy do get fined

524
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Speaker 3: and taxed pretty heavily is Europe. Loved this story because

525
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Speaker 3: the headline is great and maybe you know, California, the

526
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Speaker 3: city of Los Angeles might want to adopt this idea.

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Speaker 3: There's a very wealthy man who apparently was speeding in Finland.

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Speaker 3: He is one of Finland's richest men, and he got

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Speaker 3: one hundred and seventy four thousand dollars speeding ticket. He

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Speaker 3: was driving eighty two kilometers per hour and a fifty

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Speaker 3: kilometer per hour zone. But because he's wealthy, and apparently

532
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Speaker 3: the rule in Finland is that you are fined based

533
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Speaker 3: on your income level, and the specifics for the speeding

534
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Speaker 3: ticket basically equal to fourteen days of your income, which

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Speaker 3: for this rather wealthy man, Yeah, I'm no kidding, boy,

536
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Speaker 3: would translate into one hundred and seventy four thousand dollars

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Speaker 3: speeding ticket.

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Speaker 2: That's I know he's making that much money.

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Speaker 3: Well, he's older. I guess he's been at this for hour.

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Speaker 3: He got a company called will Wicklough Holding.

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Speaker 2: This is part of this stupid equity movement and there's

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Speaker 2: a lot of nutty stuff that comes out of Scandinavia. Now,

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Speaker 2: I thought it was about making the fines cheap for

544
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Speaker 2: poor people, right, that.

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Speaker 1: Is an effort in California, right.

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Speaker 2: But it never occurred to me there'd be another side

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Speaker 2: of this where they would make finds ridiculously expensive for

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Speaker 2: the wealthy.

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Speaker 3: Think about how the other side of this is more

550
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Speaker 3: attractive to these types because now you have more money

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Speaker 3: to spend on whatever.

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Speaker 1: All right, I don't know what's in this case.

553
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Speaker 3: This rich guy said, well, at least it might go

554
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Speaker 3: to some good charity that I paid this much money.

555
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Speaker 1: Oh yeah, it's going to go to a charity.

556
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Speaker 2: It's going to go to whatever finish black hole exists.

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Speaker 1: In the government there, probably, I don't think.

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Speaker 2: I don't think the fins is that what you call them,

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Speaker 2: the fins? The finians, Well, they're finish the finish. The

560
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Speaker 2: finish aren't any different than anybody else. Everybody in government

561
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Speaker 2: is corrupt.

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Speaker 1: He's been fined before.

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Speaker 3: In twenty thirteen he is fine for doing forty seven

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Speaker 3: and a thirty mile per hour zone, and in twenty

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Speaker 3: eighteen he also paid another huge speed.

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Speaker 1: Thing is fine. Obviously.

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Speaker 2: I don't know what's in the Finnish constitution, but in

568
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Speaker 2: America there's this proportionality personality that the fine or the

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Speaker 2: prison sentence has to be in proportion to the crime

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Speaker 2: that a legislature can't pass, you know, some outrageous sentence

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Speaker 2: just because that that it has to really equate to

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Speaker 2: what harm you did. No, So I don't think they

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Speaker 2: could get away with that here.

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Speaker 3: Well, I mean considering that they're already talking about charging

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Speaker 3: wealthier people more on their electric bills. You know, that's

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Speaker 3: something they're talking that's a real bill in Sacramento.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, well, that's that's got to be challenged too, because

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Speaker 2: that doesn't that doesn't sound right. This idea pay that

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Speaker 2: you pay for a commodity based on how much income

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Speaker 2: you make, not I mean, I mean, wealthy people already

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Speaker 2: use more electricity, so they're going to pay more for

582
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Speaker 2: that commodity, right, But it sounds unconstitutional that I'm going

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Speaker 2: to be discriminated against and have to pay disproportionately just

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Speaker 2: because I'm successful.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, that's well, you can do that with taxes.

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Speaker 3: They shouldn't because he at tell you as well, because

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Speaker 3: you're wealthy, you think, because if it's only a fifty

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Speaker 3: dollars fine, who cares, you know, small change, and you

589
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Speaker 3: got to make it it's a bigger fine, so you

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Speaker 3: are more impacted, and think twice before you speak and

591
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Speaker 3: kill people.

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Speaker 2: Got to change the subject. It's not your business. You're

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Speaker 2: not entitled to the money. You don't get to decide

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Speaker 2: what I think. You think, I don't care, well, I

595
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Speaker 2: do care.

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Speaker 1: How about that?

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Speaker 2: I don't care if it's it's a tiny little bit

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Speaker 2: of my income, that's my income, that's not yours. You're

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Speaker 2: not entitled to tell me what I'm supposed to think,

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Speaker 2: what I'm supposed to tolerate. Again, none of your business.

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Speaker 3: He's apparently the chair of a holding company includes businesses

602
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Speaker 3: in theistics, helicopter services, real estate trade, and tourism, so

603
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Speaker 3: he apparently is a very wealthy. He's an older guy

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Speaker 3: taking in the seventies. Apparently there was a guy a

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Speaker 3: few years ago, a Swedish driver who got fined a

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Speaker 3: huge amount because he was doing one twenty five and

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Speaker 3: a twenty mile prior zone.

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Speaker 1: You know what, he had to move out of Finland

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Speaker 1: for a year. That's right, take his tax his tax

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Speaker 1: base with him, right, all right? Conway's here, hey now, hey, now, hey.

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Speaker 5: Man was found shot to death down near the Grand

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Speaker 5: Park metro station. Another one of these metro deaths. Yeah,

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Speaker 5: you know, I was thinking when family and friends come

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Speaker 5: in to town, I no longer take him to Hollywood

615
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Speaker 5: Boulevard because I don't like to have my relatives come

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Speaker 5: back to my house with their throat slashed. That's a

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Speaker 5: generous host, thank you. So I say, hey, go ride

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Speaker 5: the metro for a couple hours.

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Speaker 1: Go get lost on the metro.

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Speaker 5: You'll have some stories when you go back to Detroit

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Speaker 5: and Cleveland.

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Speaker 1: Man, that's wild. I don't know.

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Speaker 2: They got to they got to get a hold of that,

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Speaker 2: you know, I mean some there was some dopey uh

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Speaker 2: La County supervisor Lindsay Horvath. She she posted a picture

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Speaker 2: of herself and two of her idiotic aids smiling on

627
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Speaker 2: on on the metro train just to show how wonderful

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Speaker 2: it is to travel.

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Speaker 1: Oh, that's great, do that all day. See how long

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Speaker 1: you last?

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Speaker 5: I got mug, Mosquito and Burbank test positive for West Nile.

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Speaker 1: So I'm moving out.

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Speaker 5: And then train sirs Orange County San Clemente again stopped

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Speaker 5: because of the landslide. Every couple of weeks is a

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Speaker 5: landslide in South Orange County.

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Speaker 1: Maybe maybe they.

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Speaker 2: Ought to move those trains the tracks right, but yeah,

638
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Speaker 2: they should move the tracks inland.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, exactly. It's a nice and scenic to be right

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Speaker 1: on the oce.

641
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Speaker 2: The ocean's moving in and and the rock wall is

642
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Speaker 2: crumbling and it can't support the tracks.

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Speaker 5: And then I'm going to cancel my costco membership because

644
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Speaker 5: they're going to raise the membership fees.

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Speaker 1: Oh how much is it now? I don't know. I

646
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Speaker 1: think it's like, I don't know, is it? Uh seven?

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Speaker 1: You're too rich to keep track of these.

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Speaker 5: No, my wife does the membership by you know, and

649
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Speaker 5: I try not to be with her because I get

650
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Speaker 5: hot when that happens. Right, I'm like, wait, I'm paying

651
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Speaker 5: the shop here. I got to pay you to shop here,

652
00:34:13,320 --> 00:34:13,920
Speaker 5: like jem.

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Speaker 1: Coat when I was growing up.

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Speaker 3: But it's still like only a dollar fifty for a

655
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Speaker 3: hot dog Annesota, Right right, How could you beat that

656
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Speaker 3: deal with the food court?

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Speaker 1: Yeah?

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Speaker 5: But man, all those food courts look like and a

659
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Speaker 5: five dollar chicken, that's right, you know, and more ice

660
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Speaker 5: cream than a family can handle in one cot Dig

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Speaker 5: dig Dog with that cost, Go.

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Speaker 1: Day comes Sting Dog.

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