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Speaker 1: Hello Texans, welcome to the show. It's Thursday night. Like

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Speaker 1: you needed me to tell you that, because you're getting

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Speaker 1: so close to the weekend, you.

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Speaker 2: Can taste it, you can feel it.

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Speaker 1: Texans football in the air, as they'll be in the

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Speaker 1: air on Saturday, flying to Wisconsin to play the Green

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Speaker 1: Bay Packers on Sunday, only the third ever regular season

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Speaker 1: visit to Green Bay.

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Speaker 2: So it's me John Harris.

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Speaker 1: I'm Mark Vandermere, by the way, voice of your Houston Texans,

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Speaker 1: John Harris, and let's start it off with the General

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Speaker 1: John McClain. Before we get to John though, or a

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Speaker 1: reminder that we have Corey Undlin, who's the defensive passing

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Speaker 1: game coordinator with us on the show in about twenty

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Speaker 1: five thirty minutes, so you want to hear him for sure.

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Speaker 1: A very interesting guy. It's been with a lot of teams,

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Speaker 1: as a Super Bowl ring, as an assistant coach with

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Speaker 1: the Philadelphia Eagles, and a bunch of other stuff. But

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Speaker 1: let's begin with from Houston Texans dot Com, the General

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Speaker 1: John McClain.

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Speaker 2: John, how you doing.

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Speaker 3: I'm doing great, guys, And I have to tell you

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Speaker 3: about something I did last night.

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Speaker 4: Okay, I went.

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Speaker 3: To the I think it was the kickoff reception for

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Speaker 3: the Bear Bryan Awards at Brennan's Downtown. It's a great evan,

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Speaker 3: a lot of really good people there to benefit the

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Speaker 3: American Heart Association, and the master's ceremonies did a great job.

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Speaker 3: Everybody was so impressed. It was that bow tide.

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Speaker 5: John Harris Wait, bow tie and.

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Speaker 2: So let me explain, you didn't have any other kind

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Speaker 6: No, I didn't want to put a tie on. I

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Speaker 6: in fact thought about not wearing a tie. And when

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Speaker 6: I reached in for a pocket square, I saw the

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Speaker 6: bow tie and I thought, well, I could do this.

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Speaker 6: I could just you know, just clip it on or whatever.

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Speaker 6: It's a little clip on boat. This is a clip

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Speaker 6: on bow tie. Just clipped it on or the way

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Speaker 6: I go. And I know when my wife's these pictures

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Speaker 6: from that general, she is going to absolutely kill me.

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Speaker 3: She told me it was a clip on. You couldn't

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I couldn't tell. But no, no, she's gonna be

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Speaker 2: mad that I just had the bow tie. I looked

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Speaker 1: So I was going to play once where I had

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Speaker 1: to do the actual I had to tie the bow

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Speaker 2: I couldn't do it now I forgot how to do

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Speaker 6: General to that end, you were there because with Paul

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Speaker 6: Barrett with the Bear Bryan Award Lifetime Achievement Award, Grant

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Speaker 6: Taff is being celebrated as the Lifetime Achievement Award winner.

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Speaker 6: Just your thoughts about him being our recipient this year.

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Speaker 3: I was a sophomore when he was our in nineteen

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Speaker 5: He was the tenth choice.

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Speaker 3: So yeah, how bad Baylor's program was, and how nobody

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Speaker 3: they went to the tenth choice, Grant Tief. Everybody thought

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Speaker 3: Jack Patterson's house for an interview with his wife Donell.

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Speaker 3: And as they were walking through the den from the garage,

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Speaker 3: Taff was walking behind Grant and noticed he had stepped

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Speaker 3: Oh no, now, Jack Patterson, who was leading, didn't see it.

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Speaker 3: So while they walked into the other room, Donelle ran

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Speaker 3: well enough because he got hired, turned out to be

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Speaker 3: the greatest coach in Baylor history, in one of the

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Speaker 3: it's great and I'm so glad that the Bear Bryann

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Speaker 3: to play Misigan, Ohio State. He plays Nebraska this weekend.

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Speaker 3: But man, oh Man, they're great. And two others that

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Speaker 3: both unbeaten for the first time since.

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Speaker 6: Agin Jeff Bunkin, Brian Newberry, Oh my god, the reach

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Speaker 3: Two at your service academies are unbeaten this late in

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Speaker 3: the season, I think for since World War before World

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Speaker 1: Wait, so do we wait till the playoffs are over

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Speaker 6: No, the finalists actually are going to be announced. The

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Speaker 6: winner is after the playoff. Okay, the vote happens between

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Speaker 6: those three days after the playoff and then the event

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Speaker 6: is on January twenty second, Posto Coulture. The playoffs factor

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Speaker 2: They do not. We do the finalists after the championship weekend.

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Speaker 1: What if the twelfth team wins the championship and the

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Speaker 1: coach of the twelve team was not a finalist.

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Speaker 2: That it happened. It's happened, It's happened. It's that kind

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Speaker 6: There's never been one right right right now, We've got it.

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Speaker 6: We've got it right for the most part. We've kind

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Speaker 6: been a lot of people over the years like, hey,

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Speaker 6: why don't you just invite one coach the winner and

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Speaker 6: let that coach know. But we've always had a great

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Speaker 2: Know they're not winning. Well, they don't know. They don't

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Speaker 1: It's like the Oscars. I'm going to attend this thing

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Speaker 1: and I don't know if I'm going right. Okay, good,

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Speaker 1: that's right, big time.

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Speaker 6: I give you two thousand and nine. You love this one.

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Speaker 6: Two thousand and nine National champion at YEQ West oh

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Speaker 2: Nick Saban is a finalist, he's there for the event.

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Speaker 2: It's awesome.

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Speaker 6: Also that year undefeated but didn't get a shot to

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Speaker 6: the whole place is Alabama, it's decked out. They're thinking

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Speaker 2: In the room. All we votes on it, and coach

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Speaker 2: Saban has never been back.

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Speaker 6: It is the national what is the NWSA National Sports

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Speaker 3: If the NFL did it like that and waited to

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Speaker 3: laughter the playoffs, Tomiico Ryans, that's Ryan Coach of the

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Speaker 3: Dimiico got beat by what one vote yep, because Stefanski

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Speaker 3: way AP does it, but does why Damiko didn't get it?

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Speaker 4: Yeah?

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Speaker 1: Backup quarterback. I mean taking nothing away from Case. We

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Speaker 6: Clearly the evidence is there, so general, since we kind

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Speaker 6: of went there, I want to we'll get to Texans

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Speaker 6: in a second. Kevin Stefanski ends up being coach of

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Speaker 2: There are many.

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Speaker 6: Coaches that ended up winning Coaching the Year in the

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Speaker 6: NFL twice. Who could get fired? Right, what happens? Do

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Speaker 6: you think that he ends up getting fired? Who's longer

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Speaker 3: Oh Stefanski? Because number one, they're doing this to tank.

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Speaker 3: You know, they don't want to win. They want to tank.

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Speaker 3: They want to get a high picked. They want to

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Speaker 3: be able to get Watson's replacement. Keep him one more year,

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Speaker 3: So he'll be back next year. But that's why they're

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Speaker 3: doing what they're doing. They'll never admit it. Of course,

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Speaker 1: So do you think they think, and yeah, we'll get

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Speaker 1: a good pick. We're replenishing the cupboard. We already traded Cooper.

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Speaker 3: They don't win, want to win four five games, then

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Speaker 3: you got to trade up or get lucky. Right now.

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Speaker 3: There was a great story written by Bill Barnwell of

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Speaker 3: the ESPN I Think on Tuesday, in which he did

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Speaker 3: a deep analytic analytical dive using all these statistics to

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Speaker 3: show how Deshaun's having one of the worst seasons of

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Speaker 6: Yeah, it's been bad. But on the good side of this,

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Speaker 6: Jordan Love and c. J. Stroud and those two will

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Speaker 6: meet on Sunday General. Now, there's not good your level

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Speaker 3: I'm excited like I was excited about that road trip

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Speaker 3: to Minnesota with Sam Darnell. I don't think they're gonna

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Speaker 3: get blown out like that. But the Packers are good.

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Speaker 3: Love's got eight touchdown passes in his last two games.

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Speaker 3: They're number two in rushing. I've got a column on

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Speaker 3: Houston Texas dot Com looking at the Bengals, and the

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Speaker 3: Raiders did not want Joe Mixing and Josh Jacobs anymore,

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Speaker 3: doing great, and the Bengals are twenty six then rushing,

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Speaker 3: and the Raiders are thirty first, and they don't have

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Speaker 3: anybody close to replacing him. And I still don't understand.

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Speaker 3: Maybe Jacobs came down to money. I don't think so.

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Speaker 3: They just decided at twenty six years old it was

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Speaker 3: time to move on. And I still have no idea

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Speaker 3: about mixing. Jacobs was hurt the last four games. He

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Speaker 3: and twelve touchdowns, and they were gonna cut him, and

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Speaker 3: the many great moves Nicks made.

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Speaker 1: Do you think they can move the ball on green Bay?

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Speaker 1: Green Bay number one and turnover March in take away?

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Speaker 3: That's because of McKenny. Kenny leads the NFL with five interceptions.

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Speaker 1: Are you surprised that Jets push more chips to the

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Speaker 2: Back to Russell Wilson.

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Speaker 6: He said if I played better, they wouldn't be making

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Speaker 2: But I I think they will eventually go back to

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Speaker 2: This is awful.

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Speaker 1: Absolutely, it doesn't feel right to me. But I agree

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Speaker 1: What's the locker room saying privately? Because to me, the

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Speaker 3: General, the two people at manor Tomlin and Arthur Smith.

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Speaker 3: With the number one defense in the NFL. Yeah, I

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Speaker 3: It's amazing to me. You didn't hear the other night

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Speaker 4: Yeah?

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Speaker 5: Players don't like that.

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Speaker 2: He's gonna throw you under the bus. There's no there's

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Speaker 1: My goodness, you want to know my gut reaction to that,

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Speaker 3: Yeah?

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Speaker 2: All right, I mean.

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Speaker 4: I would.

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Speaker 2: It would be so bad.

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Speaker 1: I'd be pretty checked to the porcelain God for days,

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Speaker 1: I don't wish that on Hop, but I don't want

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Speaker 2: I know we're gonna play him twice if he stays

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Speaker 1: I get that, but I feel confident we'll be able

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Speaker 3: Like right now, the Jaguars are terrible and the Titans

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Speaker 3: they should, they could run the division.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, it would be nice. I want to see them

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Speaker 1: Yeah, that's true. You're right, You're right, but the Chiefs

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Speaker 1: doing well. But that's twenty four to nothing and now

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Speaker 1: you're there. I don't like that at all, Like Justin

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Speaker 1: Reid went there after twenty four to nothing.

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Speaker 6: All right, don't get me on this Chiefs thing, Johnny,

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Speaker 6: I didn't need to. I've got another trade. I thought

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Speaker 6: it was interesting because it mentions DeAndre Hopkins. He has

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Speaker 6: another one that mentions the Dolphins trading. Oh no Young,

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Speaker 6: the Dolphins. Oh right now, with two of them.

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Speaker 5: Coming back, why why are they talking?

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Speaker 1: Yeah, but quarterbacks being but we don't so they say

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Speaker 1: he's coming back, he's coming back.

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Speaker 2: Okay, we don't know when.

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Speaker 5: No, they don't know that.

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Speaker 2: But but what do you think Mike McDaniel could do

450
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Speaker 2: with Bryce Young?

451
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Speaker 5: Not much at this point.

452
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Speaker 2: Maybe maybe he could do something. Who knows.

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Speaker 1: All right, So for both of you, Monday night football

454
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Speaker 1: is another staggered start.

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Speaker 2: Doubleheader, if you will.

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Speaker 1: I don't know what you call this, just two games

457
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Speaker 1: going on at the same time, but staggered start with.

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Speaker 2: The Ravens visiting the Buccaneers. Okay, that's good.

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Speaker 1: And the other one is on ESPN Plus only I'm

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Speaker 1: for the league doing Prime fall. The other one is

461
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Speaker 1: Chargers at Cardinals. I'm for the league doing Prime. I'm

462
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Speaker 1: okay with the Netflix Christmas. It's fine, it's fine, it's fine.

463
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Speaker 1: ESPN Plus feels a little out of bounds.

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Speaker 3: I would be angry if I were the Chargers and

465
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Speaker 3: the Cardinals. Now, the Cardinals deserve it, but the Chargers

466
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Speaker 3: are still a good story because of hardball. Who's gonna

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Speaker 3: watch that? Help people in La and in Arizona. They're

468
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Speaker 3: not gonna be watching that game. They're gonna be watching

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Speaker 3: the Bucks in the raven.

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Speaker 2: Here's the thing.

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Speaker 1: If you're gonna do the ESPN Plus thing, you have

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Speaker 1: to do on a standalone game. If you're gonna make

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Speaker 1: people buy ESPN Plus for the game with another game

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Speaker 1: going on, you don't take my chances with Ravens Buccaneers.

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Speaker 1: I don't need to order ESPN Plus assuming I don't

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Speaker 1: have it to see the Chargers and the Cardinals, unless

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Speaker 1: I'm an out of state Chargers Cardinals fan. If I

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Speaker 1: don't have YouTube, especially, that's a fantastic game. Ravens Bucks,

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Speaker 1: it's baker.

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Speaker 2: Remember you're watching Chargers Cardinals.

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Speaker 6: I mean a lot of people will find a way

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Speaker 6: if they follow the NFL et cetera. But that's a

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Speaker 6: great game of Monday Night Baltimore and Tampa Bay. I

484
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Speaker 6: don't know about the game tonight general, but Sean Payton's

485
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Speaker 6: going back to New Orleans.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, that is all kinds of dice you.

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Speaker 6: We're gonna see Specs Ratler for Twokey's actually Bo Nicks

488
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Speaker 6: for the bronxo.

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Speaker 5: Starting the Senior Bowl and you were there.

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Speaker 2: That's right.

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Speaker 6: I saw both of the had Senior Bowl, and I

492
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Speaker 6: thought Ratler was better at the Senior Bowl. Who you

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Speaker 6: got tonight Broncos in New Orleans at the Superdome.

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Speaker 3: Rattler played really well for a guy in that situation,

495
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Speaker 3: but they got a lot of injuries, they got receivers out.

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Speaker 3: I'm going with Peyton. I don't want Peyton to win,

497
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Speaker 3: but I'm going with Peyton in his homecoming.

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Speaker 1: So who's the next coach possibly fired here? Is it Peterson?

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Speaker 1: Is it Dennis Allen?

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Speaker 3: Because Dennis Allen's done a terrible job. His defense is terrible,

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Speaker 3: that's his specialty. Peterson is an offensive coach, that's his

502
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Speaker 3: special If the Giants implode, I don't think that it

503
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Speaker 3: was fired bying day Ball during the season.

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Speaker 2: Okay, anybody else that candidate here.

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Speaker 3: Mick McCarthy, even though he's not. What if they have

506
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Speaker 3: a couple more embarrassing performances like that.

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Speaker 1: You know one thing that we didn't talk about, and

508
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Speaker 1: it came up this week again, and I thought this

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Speaker 1: was a fact of the first time I ever saw

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Speaker 1: that stadium in an open situation, late afternoon game, the

511
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Speaker 1: sun shining through the window and your home team driving

512
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Speaker 1: into the sun and you can't see anything. What is

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Speaker 1: how do they not see that coming when they're constructing

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Speaker 1: the stadium. No, it's it's coming in from the angle

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Speaker 1: of sunset. You know, it's beaming in from this from

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Speaker 1: the end zone. You cannot cover.

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Speaker 5: You need curtains about it?

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Speaker 2: Before I've complained about it. Well, I guess maybe I don't.

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Speaker 2: Whenever they get that late afternoon game at this time

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Speaker 2: of year, it's brutal late afternoon games, Thanksgiving games.

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Speaker 5: If it's brutal on the Cowboys, great.

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Speaker 6: General, Okay, general, I got one. It's almost rhetorical in

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Speaker 6: a sense. But how would the hell can Tom Brady

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Speaker 6: be a minority owner of the Raiders and continue his

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Speaker 6: f broadcasting job.

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Speaker 3: Well, first of all, Fox gave him three undred seventy

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Speaker 3: five million, so he's not going to walk away from it.

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Speaker 3: And even though he owns five percent, he probably had

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Speaker 3: to write a check to Mark Davis for that three

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Speaker 3: and seventy five million. And Florio wrote a thing today

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Speaker 3: that everybody Brady works with can go to these meetings

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Speaker 3: and then tell Brady everything he saw so they can

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Speaker 3: take notes. So Brady's watching tape, he doesn't need to

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Speaker 3: go into those meetings. He might be better off just

535
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Speaker 3: going by what he thinks and not why they've tried

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Speaker 3: to influence him. But the key is how much authority

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Speaker 3: is he going to have as a five percenter? And

538
00:25:36,440 --> 00:25:40,639
Speaker 3: is Tom Telesco, the GM who was fired by the Chargers.

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Speaker 3: Is Brady going to tell him, well, I want you

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Speaker 3: to do this, or what do you think about this?

541
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Speaker 3: Or I think this? Mark Davis acted like they wanted

542
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Speaker 3: to utilize his opinions on things like maybe finding the

543
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Speaker 3: next quarterback. But it's an unprecedented situation, and I'm just

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Speaker 3: I think Brady's got all kind of irons and the

545
00:26:00,960 --> 00:26:04,159
Speaker 3: fire in so many businesses that he's not just going

546
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Speaker 3: to be solely focused on helping the Raiders general.

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Speaker 2: What do you have going on in Houston? Texans dot Com.

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Speaker 3: Well, I'm writing one for Friday about the Texans defense

549
00:26:12,840 --> 00:26:16,919
Speaker 3: with players out having to worry about Josh Jacobs and

550
00:26:16,960 --> 00:26:20,800
Speaker 3: the number two running game in the NFL and the

551
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Speaker 3: play action game of Jordan Love which is really really good,

552
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Speaker 3: one of the best in the league. And how is

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Speaker 3: the defense going to continue to get kind of pressure

554
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Speaker 3: the way they did last week? And then I've got

555
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Speaker 3: the one up today on the two running backs who

556
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Speaker 3: were discarded and now they well they've done with the

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Speaker 3: Texans and the Packers. Thank you, Thank you guys very much.

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Speaker 3: John once then you look spiffy in your bow tie.

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Speaker 3: You did a great job.

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Speaker 2: Thank you very much. General, I was glad you were there.

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Speaker 2: That was great. All right?

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Speaker 1: Coming up defensive passing Game coordinator Corey Undlin. Also in

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Speaker 1: the final segment the injury report dot is.

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Speaker 4: It that bad?

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Speaker 1: Little but look, this is football. You got to play

566
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Speaker 1: your way through it. So we'll talk about it. It's

567
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Speaker 1: Texans Radio right back into the flow of it here

568
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Speaker 1: on Texans All Access. Mark Vandermaer and John Harris with you,

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Speaker 1: and we have a special guest in studio, defensive passing

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Speaker 1: game coordinator Corey Undlin.

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Speaker 2: Coach We have a lot of football to talk about.

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Speaker 1: But first, in prepping for this interview, Johnny and I

573
00:27:22,160 --> 00:27:26,720
Speaker 1: discovered any given hunday you riding along with Melissa Stark

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Speaker 1: when you were with the Eagles being interviewed by Melissa Stark, Like,

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Speaker 1: what is that Comedians and cars getting coffee that show?

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Speaker 2: So what was that experience?

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Speaker 8: Like?

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Speaker 7: That was outstanding. That was the first time I met her.

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Speaker 7: It was good, very impressed. And then she just I

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Speaker 7: mean cruising around Philly that was I think that was

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Speaker 7: was up post that was post Super Bowl.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, definitely, because you talked about the rank.

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Speaker 4: Going down Broad Street.

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Speaker 7: Yeah all that went by the skatepark underneath the bridge

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Speaker 7: right there.

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Speaker 4: M hm, down there in South Philly. That was cool.

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Speaker 4: And then got the fishing pool. Yes, yeah, still got that.

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Speaker 2: That was a gift. We still have that. When your

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Speaker 2: gift is a fish.

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Speaker 7: Yeah, it was the butt of the rock. It was

591
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Speaker 7: just a butt of the rock. Was there was no

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Speaker 7: I mean it was in the glovebox. So that's all

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Speaker 7: she gave to me. But it was it was really cool.

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Speaker 7: She's an awesome person, yep. And she was here for

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Speaker 7: our earlier game every time. Every time, Uh my daughters

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Speaker 7: and my wife give me a hard time. They think

597
00:28:18,920 --> 00:28:22,840
Speaker 7: I got a crush on her, but oh who doesn't. Yeah,

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Speaker 7: she's awesome. And my daughters and my wife all took

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Speaker 7: a picture with her. Was that Chicago?

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Speaker 2: That was Chicago football?

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Speaker 4: Yeah?

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Speaker 6: What was the level of sandy like in that city

603
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Speaker 6: when you guys won the championship?

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Speaker 4: Yeah? Whatever you think it was, it was probably times ten.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, sure, well we need that here, right, we're working.

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Speaker 4: On of course, we're working on it.

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Speaker 6: So I want to read you something. We're gonna get

608
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Speaker 6: it talking football a little bit, but I'm going to

609
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Speaker 6: read you something. I want you to explain this because

610
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Speaker 6: I think you and I have a little bit in common.

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Speaker 6: Fresh out of college, Corey Unlin was set to begin

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Speaker 6: his professional career. Well the job lined up as a

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Speaker 6: fourth grade teacher. He embarked on his first year in

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Speaker 6: the classroom. Safe to say, things have changed a bit

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Speaker 6: since then. So how long did you teach fourth grade?

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Speaker 6: And what did teaching fourth graders kind of teach you

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Speaker 6: that you've carried forward into your coaching career.

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Speaker 7: Yeah, I top fourth grade for one year and then

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Speaker 7: the principal said you need to teach junior High. So

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Speaker 7: then I went up and then taught seventh and eighth.

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Speaker 7: Oh yeah, you're done, and then yeah, I'm like, yeah,

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Speaker 7: I'm doing this. So then and then I took a job.

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Speaker 7: I took a job at Malibu High School right on

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Speaker 7: p looking down on Malibu Beach.

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Speaker 4: Zuma what.

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Speaker 7: And then I did that for a year, and then

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Speaker 7: they offered me the a D job at the end

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Speaker 7: of that year.

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Speaker 2: Uh huh.

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Speaker 4: And then I went back to KLOU.

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Speaker 7: Which is where I played yep, because a friend of

632
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Speaker 7: mine who coached me when I was playing at KLU,

633
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Speaker 7: got the head job. So I left and I went

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Speaker 7: back and started coaching and teaching at KLOU. And there

635
00:29:46,640 --> 00:29:49,120
Speaker 7: are many times where I think about My dad was

636
00:29:49,120 --> 00:29:50,680
Speaker 7: the one He's like, man, you should just take that

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Speaker 7: ad job and then.

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Speaker 1: You'd beat You're good like you Yeah, just stay there

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Speaker 1: forever as long as they provide a home to live in,

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Speaker 1: because I would imagine the real estate prices.

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Speaker 4: At it was expensive there, It's yeah, it was expensive.

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Speaker 4: Then it's I can't even imagine.

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Speaker 6: Now I didn't even I didn't even know about the

644
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Speaker 6: ad job. But you and I have definitely a lot

645
00:30:06,600 --> 00:30:09,120
Speaker 6: in common. Before I came back to Houston to do radio.

646
00:30:09,160 --> 00:30:11,880
Speaker 6: I was offered the athletic tructor job at Episcopal in Jacksonville,

647
00:30:11,960 --> 00:30:14,640
Speaker 6: same sort of thing. Took a different path like, no,

648
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Speaker 6: I want to do this, and I ended up here

649
00:30:16,520 --> 00:30:19,200
Speaker 6: kind of the same spot. But what what was it

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Speaker 6: like being a teacher. I mean, obviously that's something you

651
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Speaker 6: carried forward into your coaching, But what were some of

652
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Speaker 6: the things you took out of your teaching?

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Speaker 7: Yeah, I would say the age difference obviously drastically different. Sure,

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Speaker 7: the teaching aspect of like being putting information and then

655
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Speaker 7: trying to teach and give it to them in a

656
00:30:34,880 --> 00:30:36,320
Speaker 7: way that they can understand it.

657
00:30:36,400 --> 00:30:38,480
Speaker 4: And then I don't know if this word really worked.

658
00:30:38,520 --> 00:30:40,280
Speaker 7: I mean my philosophy right now is you teach and

659
00:30:40,280 --> 00:30:42,000
Speaker 7: then you demand, so you give it to them, and

660
00:30:42,000 --> 00:30:43,400
Speaker 7: then you demand that they go out and they work

661
00:30:43,440 --> 00:30:45,600
Speaker 7: and they get it right right, help them along the way.

662
00:30:46,000 --> 00:30:48,040
Speaker 7: There's a little bit of demand probably in fourth grade,

663
00:30:48,080 --> 00:30:50,600
Speaker 7: but you know, as fourth graders they just stare at

664
00:30:50,680 --> 00:30:52,680
Speaker 7: you and then whatever you say, they just try to

665
00:30:52,680 --> 00:30:55,320
Speaker 7: do it. They can't because that struggled. Then you got

666
00:30:55,360 --> 00:30:57,520
Speaker 7: to spend extra time with them, which is pretty much

667
00:30:57,520 --> 00:30:59,440
Speaker 7: the same A guy that's not picking up a scheme.

668
00:30:59,480 --> 00:31:01,080
Speaker 7: Then you man, you've got to come into my office

669
00:31:01,120 --> 00:31:02,360
Speaker 7: and we got to do some more here. We got

670
00:31:02,360 --> 00:31:04,680
Speaker 7: to spend more time on the board whatever. So I

671
00:31:04,680 --> 00:31:07,280
Speaker 7: mean the teaching aspect, I say it all the time.

672
00:31:07,280 --> 00:31:08,640
Speaker 7: People ask me what I do. I said, I.

673
00:31:08,600 --> 00:31:10,040
Speaker 4: Teach, Yeah, that's what I'm doing.

674
00:31:10,240 --> 00:31:12,360
Speaker 7: Yeah, and then make them try to guess and if

675
00:31:12,360 --> 00:31:13,960
Speaker 7: they want to hang out long enough and get to

676
00:31:14,000 --> 00:31:16,320
Speaker 7: the football piece. Some people don't have the patience to

677
00:31:16,360 --> 00:31:17,600
Speaker 7: do that, so they don't know.

678
00:31:17,800 --> 00:31:21,280
Speaker 1: Corey Undlin is the defensive passing game coordinator for the Texans,

679
00:31:21,280 --> 00:31:23,560
Speaker 1: and I'm always interested in the chicken and egg thing

680
00:31:23,720 --> 00:31:27,920
Speaker 1: about pass rush versus coverage, because coverage can help you

681
00:31:27,960 --> 00:31:31,440
Speaker 1: get a sack if the quarterback pulls off that first option.

682
00:31:31,680 --> 00:31:34,360
Speaker 1: Obviously pressure can help you get picked. So how do

683
00:31:34,400 --> 00:31:35,160
Speaker 1: you see all of that?

684
00:31:35,640 --> 00:31:38,520
Speaker 7: Yeah, I mean you know, you guys know the reference

685
00:31:38,600 --> 00:31:41,880
Speaker 7: that there's a marriage between the rush and the coverage.

686
00:31:41,920 --> 00:31:44,600
Speaker 7: They go hand in hand, and you can probably make

687
00:31:44,640 --> 00:31:46,960
Speaker 7: a case for both. I mean, you just did interceptions.

688
00:31:47,040 --> 00:31:50,360
Speaker 7: Good coverage make the quarterback path the ball, and the

689
00:31:50,480 --> 00:31:54,920
Speaker 7: rush can get there and then most people probably think

690
00:31:54,960 --> 00:31:57,640
Speaker 7: you want the coverage piece first I would I would

691
00:31:57,760 --> 00:32:00,760
Speaker 7: lean the other way because obviously, the faster you can

692
00:32:00,760 --> 00:32:04,280
Speaker 7: get to the quarterbacks, especially with the four man rush,

693
00:32:04,720 --> 00:32:08,160
Speaker 7: everything speeds up and then typically not with everybody, typically

694
00:32:08,240 --> 00:32:13,160
Speaker 7: then those more bad decisions come. So, I mean we're

695
00:32:13,200 --> 00:32:15,480
Speaker 7: in that position right now with fifty one and fifty

696
00:32:15,480 --> 00:32:18,360
Speaker 7: five obviously, and then I mean, let's talk. You could

697
00:32:18,560 --> 00:32:22,400
Speaker 7: like enlist the other d tackles as well, But when

698
00:32:22,440 --> 00:32:26,440
Speaker 7: you have that scenario out there, Dimiko doesn't technically feel

699
00:32:26,440 --> 00:32:30,080
Speaker 7: like he has to every time bring five or bring six.

700
00:32:30,160 --> 00:32:32,600
Speaker 4: You can just let those guys go. And then now

701
00:32:32,640 --> 00:32:33,720
Speaker 4: you're staring at the quarterback.

702
00:32:33,720 --> 00:32:35,720
Speaker 7: Hopefully you can play some vision defense, you can still

703
00:32:35,720 --> 00:32:39,120
Speaker 7: play man make it tighter, but the pass rush.

704
00:32:39,000 --> 00:32:40,959
Speaker 4: Is always for me, is always going to be what

705
00:32:41,040 --> 00:32:41,480
Speaker 4: makes it go.

706
00:32:42,200 --> 00:32:44,440
Speaker 6: So let's get to the coverage part. Coach, what have

707
00:32:44,520 --> 00:32:46,400
Speaker 6: you seen from the coverage this year? Do you like

708
00:32:46,440 --> 00:32:49,160
Speaker 6: where it is, where the guys are their improvement into coverage?

709
00:32:49,160 --> 00:32:51,600
Speaker 2: How do you kind of like the coverage this year?

710
00:32:51,720 --> 00:32:56,160
Speaker 4: Yeah, I would say it's it's it's still in progress.

711
00:32:56,280 --> 00:32:59,080
Speaker 7: Yeah, I mean you can just go back to New

712
00:32:59,080 --> 00:33:03,240
Speaker 7: England right there, end up giving twenty one.

713
00:33:03,120 --> 00:33:04,600
Speaker 4: Points up is what it is, and.

714
00:33:06,320 --> 00:33:08,960
Speaker 7: There were some things in there that we that are

715
00:33:09,000 --> 00:33:11,480
Speaker 7: in this defense that we have been practicing since the

716
00:33:11,720 --> 00:33:15,440
Speaker 7: first day we got here in OTA's and it just

717
00:33:15,520 --> 00:33:17,160
Speaker 7: it didn't work out that way, so you end up

718
00:33:17,160 --> 00:33:19,480
Speaker 7: with some leaky yardage. They gave us a couple of different,

719
00:33:19,520 --> 00:33:21,600
Speaker 7: weird routes, just the routes that we had played before,

720
00:33:21,640 --> 00:33:23,680
Speaker 7: but they did it a little bit different, so we

721
00:33:23,760 --> 00:33:26,760
Speaker 7: ended up loosing a couple. So it's always going to

722
00:33:26,800 --> 00:33:29,600
Speaker 7: be a work in progress. The thing that I would

723
00:33:29,640 --> 00:33:32,760
Speaker 7: say we're blessed about is just the men that we have,

724
00:33:32,880 --> 00:33:34,479
Speaker 7: the young men that we have in the room. I mean,

725
00:33:34,520 --> 00:33:36,240
Speaker 7: they show up every single day. They want to work,

726
00:33:36,280 --> 00:33:40,480
Speaker 7: they want to learn. Just came off the field probably

727
00:33:40,520 --> 00:33:42,840
Speaker 7: one of our best I felt I might not be right,

728
00:33:42,920 --> 00:33:47,120
Speaker 7: but one of our best Thursday practices, third down install

729
00:33:47,200 --> 00:33:51,200
Speaker 7: this morning and we put like I mean, we don't

730
00:33:51,200 --> 00:33:55,600
Speaker 7: really technically do that much ever, but just watching them

731
00:33:55,600 --> 00:33:57,600
Speaker 7: come off the field, I mean, that's that like walking

732
00:33:57,600 --> 00:34:00,160
Speaker 7: off the field right there, I've walked off with JP's

733
00:34:00,440 --> 00:34:02,360
Speaker 7: That's why you do that, you know, That's why you coach,

734
00:34:02,360 --> 00:34:02,840
Speaker 7: That's why you.

735
00:34:02,760 --> 00:34:04,880
Speaker 4: Spend all the time, and you're you're in here all

736
00:34:04,920 --> 00:34:05,520
Speaker 4: the time.

737
00:34:06,000 --> 00:34:08,280
Speaker 7: So that you can put those those guys in position

738
00:34:08,360 --> 00:34:10,799
Speaker 7: to go out and play fast and execute. And then

739
00:34:10,800 --> 00:34:11,920
Speaker 7: when you get to go out and practice it and

740
00:34:12,000 --> 00:34:14,640
Speaker 7: watch it, then then you're like, all right, this is

741
00:34:14,920 --> 00:34:17,239
Speaker 7: what we're trying to get done. And then the kids

742
00:34:17,280 --> 00:34:19,440
Speaker 7: feel it. They those guys feel it, and then it

743
00:34:19,560 --> 00:34:25,000
Speaker 7: just keeps going. But it's always going to be a

744
00:34:25,080 --> 00:34:29,120
Speaker 7: work in progress. This is a good offense. Yeah, quarterback

745
00:34:29,239 --> 00:34:33,280
Speaker 7: is good, All three of those wide outs good players.

746
00:34:33,280 --> 00:34:34,839
Speaker 4: They got to run. I mean, we got our hands

747
00:34:34,880 --> 00:34:35,279
Speaker 4: full here.

748
00:34:35,360 --> 00:34:38,279
Speaker 1: So yeah, yeah, what about them because going up there,

749
00:34:38,320 --> 00:34:41,480
Speaker 1: you're in their building and it'll be quiet on offense

750
00:34:41,560 --> 00:34:44,600
Speaker 1: for them. But that helps communication sometimes with the defense,

751
00:34:44,800 --> 00:34:46,040
Speaker 1: does it does that kind of.

752
00:34:46,760 --> 00:34:48,480
Speaker 7: Yeah, to the point where you got to be careful

753
00:34:48,520 --> 00:34:51,399
Speaker 7: sometimes so you're not giving it to them, like giving

754
00:34:51,440 --> 00:34:54,000
Speaker 7: the information to them with the communication piece. So there's

755
00:34:54,040 --> 00:34:56,360
Speaker 7: always that you got to deal with when the noise

756
00:34:56,400 --> 00:34:58,799
Speaker 7: is down. But what about when you're at home? How

757
00:34:58,840 --> 00:35:00,800
Speaker 7: hard is that for the guys? Yeah, there's a little

758
00:35:00,920 --> 00:35:02,759
Speaker 7: there's a little bit more that you've got to be

759
00:35:02,840 --> 00:35:04,920
Speaker 7: on it. Everybody's got to get a little bit closer

760
00:35:04,920 --> 00:35:07,239
Speaker 7: to the huddle. You got to make sure everybody's on

761
00:35:07,280 --> 00:35:09,000
Speaker 7: the same page because you know, Ail, it takes us

762
00:35:09,000 --> 00:35:12,279
Speaker 7: one and it doesn't look very good. So but I

763
00:35:12,320 --> 00:35:15,839
Speaker 7: would rather be in that scenario than than the other.

764
00:35:16,000 --> 00:35:18,600
Speaker 7: So sure, these guys are all professionals, they know how

765
00:35:18,600 --> 00:35:19,120
Speaker 7: to deal with that.

766
00:35:19,239 --> 00:35:22,600
Speaker 2: But how hard How hard is love to impersonate on

767
00:35:22,680 --> 00:35:23,319
Speaker 2: the look team?

768
00:35:23,840 --> 00:35:26,879
Speaker 7: Yeah it's not easy. Yeah, it's not it's not easy. Yeah,

769
00:35:26,920 --> 00:35:29,759
Speaker 7: it's not easy. He's he's a good player. Obviously didn't

770
00:35:29,760 --> 00:35:31,440
Speaker 7: spend a lot of time last year because obviously we

771
00:35:31,440 --> 00:35:34,760
Speaker 7: didn't we didn't play him last year. So now spending

772
00:35:34,760 --> 00:35:37,319
Speaker 7: the last five days whatever, even going into last week

773
00:35:37,360 --> 00:35:40,160
Speaker 7: watching them, he's going to be a good he's going

774
00:35:40,239 --> 00:35:40,960
Speaker 7: to be a good player.

775
00:35:41,239 --> 00:35:42,759
Speaker 4: Yeah, he's a good player right now.

776
00:35:43,480 --> 00:35:46,799
Speaker 6: Could you mentioned JP Jaylen Petrie now in his third

777
00:35:46,840 --> 00:35:48,640
Speaker 6: year with the Texans. You've been around it for a

778
00:35:48,640 --> 00:35:50,719
Speaker 6: couple of years. What's the progress that you've seen in

779
00:35:50,800 --> 00:35:51,319
Speaker 6: him thus far?

780
00:35:51,440 --> 00:35:55,080
Speaker 7: Yeah, it's been really cool to watch. I mean even

781
00:35:55,160 --> 00:35:57,080
Speaker 7: last year when we got here for the first time

782
00:35:57,120 --> 00:36:01,160
Speaker 7: and putting him out there. Obviously was playing safety, but uh,

783
00:36:01,280 --> 00:36:03,480
Speaker 7: he's that kid. Whether you're teaching fourth grade, junior high,

784
00:36:03,520 --> 00:36:06,919
Speaker 7: or high school, you know, he's one of those young

785
00:36:06,960 --> 00:36:09,040
Speaker 7: men that you're like, this is why you show up

786
00:36:09,040 --> 00:36:12,080
Speaker 7: to work because he's just on it every day, no

787
00:36:12,200 --> 00:36:15,160
Speaker 7: mood swings, Hey man, how can you help me get better?

788
00:36:15,239 --> 00:36:17,640
Speaker 7: What do I need to do? Can we work on this?

789
00:36:17,719 --> 00:36:19,239
Speaker 7: Can we work on that? I don't feel like this

790
00:36:19,400 --> 00:36:21,919
Speaker 7: is good? And you've got to have your you got

791
00:36:21,920 --> 00:36:25,799
Speaker 7: to have your stuff like all lined up, because if

792
00:36:25,840 --> 00:36:28,440
Speaker 7: you don't, then he's going to know. Like even in

793
00:36:28,480 --> 00:36:30,279
Speaker 7: the meetings, he's not afraid to be like, hey, can

794
00:36:30,320 --> 00:36:31,120
Speaker 7: you do that one more time?

795
00:36:31,160 --> 00:36:32,600
Speaker 4: I'm not really sure? Is that right?

796
00:36:32,680 --> 00:36:36,799
Speaker 7: Like are you yeah? It's yeah. So that part in

797
00:36:36,840 --> 00:36:38,600
Speaker 7: the meeting room too, what you guys don't see. Nobody

798
00:36:38,640 --> 00:36:41,160
Speaker 7: sees that part. That's the other part because we spend

799
00:36:41,160 --> 00:36:44,840
Speaker 7: a lot of time in that room pre practice, post practice,

800
00:36:45,040 --> 00:36:47,680
Speaker 7: OTAs whatever that is. And so like when you have

801
00:36:47,760 --> 00:36:49,720
Speaker 7: men in there that are actually like into the tape

802
00:36:49,760 --> 00:36:52,920
Speaker 7: and watching and like, well, actually I wouldn't say question,

803
00:36:53,080 --> 00:36:55,040
Speaker 7: but you know that they're into the tape and they're

804
00:36:55,040 --> 00:36:57,759
Speaker 7: asking questions because they care and they want to make

805
00:36:57,760 --> 00:36:58,720
Speaker 7: sure that they know everything.

806
00:36:58,800 --> 00:37:00,960
Speaker 4: So and I just think.

807
00:37:02,560 --> 00:37:06,720
Speaker 7: Him closer down this year, as in that Nickel spot,

808
00:37:07,160 --> 00:37:09,920
Speaker 7: his instincts in as fast as he plays and pulls

809
00:37:09,960 --> 00:37:13,440
Speaker 7: the trigger. It's been cool to watch him have a

810
00:37:13,440 --> 00:37:16,640
Speaker 7: lot of production and help us and he's made plays

811
00:37:16,640 --> 00:37:17,399
Speaker 7: in every game.

812
00:37:17,480 --> 00:37:17,640
Speaker 5: Yep.

813
00:37:17,760 --> 00:37:20,560
Speaker 1: Yeah, Corey Undlin with US defensive passing game coordinator with

814
00:37:20,600 --> 00:37:23,400
Speaker 1: the Texans. You've worked for a lot of different coaches.

815
00:37:23,680 --> 00:37:27,959
Speaker 1: Romeo Crennell back in Cleveland, John Fox, I'm gonna miss

816
00:37:28,000 --> 00:37:30,120
Speaker 1: guys here. You won a Super Bowl with the Eagles

817
00:37:30,120 --> 00:37:32,279
Speaker 1: and you were with Dimico in San Francisco. What does

818
00:37:32,320 --> 00:37:35,640
Speaker 1: it like to work for Demiko Ryans the head coach? Yeah,

819
00:37:35,680 --> 00:37:38,320
Speaker 1: same it was to coach him. Yeah, I mean the

820
00:37:38,360 --> 00:37:41,480
Speaker 1: guy you talk about JP and guys that show up

821
00:37:41,520 --> 00:37:43,040
Speaker 1: to work every day and they want to get it done.

822
00:37:43,040 --> 00:37:47,719
Speaker 1: That's that's my that's my snapshot of Demico. Uh, when

823
00:37:47,719 --> 00:37:49,960
Speaker 1: he was a player and I just it was just

824
00:37:49,960 --> 00:37:53,719
Speaker 1: that one year in Philly, but same guy, every single day,

825
00:37:55,160 --> 00:37:58,240
Speaker 1: all gas like go, go go. One of the smartest

826
00:37:58,280 --> 00:38:00,840
Speaker 1: guys I'd been around, and in that scheme that we

827
00:38:00,880 --> 00:38:02,839
Speaker 1: had at that point, there was a lot, a lot

828
00:38:02,880 --> 00:38:06,759
Speaker 1: of information, a lot of defense, and he's one of

829
00:38:06,760 --> 00:38:09,080
Speaker 1: the few guys that can operate at a high level

830
00:38:09,080 --> 00:38:10,800
Speaker 1: on that because there's just so many things that changed

831
00:38:10,880 --> 00:38:13,280
Speaker 1: on the tight end, gets up off the ball in motions,

832
00:38:13,320 --> 00:38:16,799
Speaker 1: the entire thing flips. So it was a bonus to

833
00:38:16,840 --> 00:38:19,640
Speaker 1: have him for that year because he can just unwind it.

834
00:38:19,719 --> 00:38:22,560
Speaker 1: And then people have asked me, I get this question

835
00:38:22,600 --> 00:38:26,480
Speaker 1: a few times, like is there I get it more

836
00:38:26,520 --> 00:38:28,480
Speaker 1: so like what was it like working for him as

837
00:38:28,480 --> 00:38:33,200
Speaker 1: a decordinator? How much different is he as the head coach?

838
00:38:33,920 --> 00:38:35,920
Speaker 1: And I would say that absolutely zero.

839
00:38:38,320 --> 00:38:40,399
Speaker 7: Same guy, the same guy that he was in front

840
00:38:40,440 --> 00:38:41,840
Speaker 7: of the defense, the same guy that he is in

841
00:38:41,880 --> 00:38:44,360
Speaker 7: front of the team, and still obvious because he's in

842
00:38:44,360 --> 00:38:47,239
Speaker 7: front of the defense here too. But there's not even

843
00:38:47,320 --> 00:38:49,880
Speaker 7: one change. Now, there's a lot of changes, probably for him,

844
00:38:49,920 --> 00:38:50,239
Speaker 7: he got.

845
00:38:50,160 --> 00:38:51,320
Speaker 4: A lot more stuff on his plate.

846
00:38:51,400 --> 00:38:53,880
Speaker 7: But as far as the teacher, the mentor, the coach,

847
00:38:54,320 --> 00:38:57,440
Speaker 7: the motivator, the guy that is demanding everything out of

848
00:38:57,440 --> 00:38:58,839
Speaker 7: these players, it's exactly the same.

849
00:38:58,880 --> 00:39:01,480
Speaker 4: It's so cool, blessed even be here.

850
00:39:01,960 --> 00:39:03,800
Speaker 2: Coach. You mentioned cal Lutheran a few times. There's a

851
00:39:03,840 --> 00:39:05,320
Speaker 2: lot of connections to cal Lutheran.

852
00:39:05,400 --> 00:39:08,799
Speaker 6: In fact, I ran into one of those, and I

853
00:39:08,840 --> 00:39:10,359
Speaker 6: believe he either played with you but is a good

854
00:39:10,360 --> 00:39:13,400
Speaker 6: friend of yours. Dave Randa Baylor, a lot of connections

855
00:39:13,440 --> 00:39:16,279
Speaker 6: to cal Lutheran, not only around NFL, but around Collge

856
00:39:16,320 --> 00:39:17,000
Speaker 6: football as well.

857
00:39:17,040 --> 00:39:19,960
Speaker 7: Is there not There is a few. Yeah, I would

858
00:39:20,000 --> 00:39:22,520
Speaker 7: mess it up if I got it. But Dave being one,

859
00:39:22,800 --> 00:39:27,200
Speaker 7: Tom Herman and coach in Texas. Yeah, so me, Tom

860
00:39:27,239 --> 00:39:29,480
Speaker 7: and Dave overlapped at one point. I'm older than both

861
00:39:29,520 --> 00:39:32,920
Speaker 7: of those guys. But Dave played Forrest, then started coaching

862
00:39:32,920 --> 00:39:35,799
Speaker 7: for US, Tom played for started coaching, and then those

863
00:39:35,800 --> 00:39:38,560
Speaker 7: guys left and then I mean, it is what it is.

864
00:39:38,640 --> 00:39:41,960
Speaker 7: Rod Marinelli is head coach of the Lions, arguably probably

865
00:39:41,960 --> 00:39:45,719
Speaker 7: like one of the best defensive line coaches that there was.

866
00:39:47,800 --> 00:39:52,160
Speaker 7: And I'm probably missing some people. The Hagen Brothers, Steve

867
00:39:52,280 --> 00:39:56,840
Speaker 7: coached in the league for a long time. Hank Bauer

868
00:39:56,920 --> 00:40:01,640
Speaker 7: played for CALU played Charge Chargers, And you're still doing

869
00:40:01,680 --> 00:40:02,480
Speaker 7: TV radio.

870
00:40:02,680 --> 00:40:03,719
Speaker 4: I think you're still.

871
00:40:03,440 --> 00:40:05,560
Speaker 2: Doing stuff something.

872
00:40:05,680 --> 00:40:08,560
Speaker 7: Yeah, and there's a few other ones in there too.

873
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Speaker 4: But yeah, it's been It's cool. There's a bunch of

874
00:40:10,480 --> 00:40:11,520
Speaker 4: bunch of people that come out of that.

875
00:40:11,640 --> 00:40:13,760
Speaker 6: Was there something that that drew everybody to that school

876
00:40:13,880 --> 00:40:17,279
Speaker 6: or was it just just kind of happenstances so many

877
00:40:17,280 --> 00:40:18,080
Speaker 6: guys in there.

878
00:40:18,120 --> 00:40:20,839
Speaker 7: I couldn't answer that but I think the pride that

879
00:40:20,880 --> 00:40:23,240
Speaker 7: the school has and just that it's a small school

880
00:40:23,680 --> 00:40:27,440
Speaker 7: Division III. But playing at that place there was a

881
00:40:27,440 --> 00:40:30,200
Speaker 7: special thing. They won national championship back dur in the seventies,

882
00:40:30,239 --> 00:40:31,719
Speaker 7: and then that group came out of there, and it

883
00:40:31,800 --> 00:40:35,280
Speaker 7: kind of just like people kind of just kept bringing

884
00:40:35,360 --> 00:40:39,400
Speaker 7: football people in there, right and then a few different

885
00:40:39,400 --> 00:40:42,640
Speaker 7: head coaches through that timeline, from Joe Harper and then

886
00:40:42,880 --> 00:40:46,719
Speaker 7: Joe was there for a long time, and then coach

887
00:40:46,760 --> 00:40:48,600
Speaker 7: Shelp was there the one that started the whole thing,

888
00:40:48,640 --> 00:40:51,200
Speaker 7: and then it went to Joe Harper, and then we

889
00:40:51,239 --> 00:40:54,080
Speaker 7: all showed up with Harp and then some of those coaches,

890
00:40:54,120 --> 00:40:56,080
Speaker 7: and it just just the program and then the way

891
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Speaker 7: that they go about it right there.

892
00:40:57,400 --> 00:40:58,400
Speaker 4: Just yeah, people.

893
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Speaker 7: Passionate about it, you know, and a bunch of us

894
00:41:01,000 --> 00:41:04,040
Speaker 7: ended up staying in the profession and kind of moving along.

895
00:41:04,160 --> 00:41:04,359
Speaker 4: Yeah.

896
00:41:04,520 --> 00:41:05,960
Speaker 2: Yeah, all right, one more for you.

897
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Speaker 1: In the car interview with Melissa Stark, you talked about hunting.

898
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Speaker 1: Have you been hunting in Texas yet?

899
00:41:12,840 --> 00:41:13,200
Speaker 4: I have?

900
00:41:13,600 --> 00:41:17,000
Speaker 7: Yeah, Okay, I'm my big I got a bird dog

901
00:41:17,719 --> 00:41:20,760
Speaker 7: and a lab, so I've done a lot of upland

902
00:41:20,840 --> 00:41:27,200
Speaker 7: hunting quail, chucker, pheasant and then been fortunate to do

903
00:41:27,239 --> 00:41:31,200
Speaker 7: some duck hunting as well in Texas. Yeah, it's hard

904
00:41:31,200 --> 00:41:34,560
Speaker 7: obviously during the season our with our schedule. Yeah, just

905
00:41:34,600 --> 00:41:38,160
Speaker 7: a little bit. But yeah, I like it here a lot,

906
00:41:38,560 --> 00:41:40,440
Speaker 7: and I like it for a lot of reasons, but

907
00:41:40,800 --> 00:41:42,719
Speaker 7: talking about the hunting and the fishing part, and then

908
00:41:42,760 --> 00:41:44,440
Speaker 7: you can go down to Port O'Connor, you can go

909
00:41:44,520 --> 00:41:48,680
Speaker 7: down anywhere down there onto the coast, and I have

910
00:41:48,719 --> 00:41:51,600
Speaker 7: a huge enormous passion for fly fishing as well, and

911
00:41:51,640 --> 00:41:52,880
Speaker 7: the red fishing down there on the.

912
00:41:52,880 --> 00:41:55,480
Speaker 4: Floor with a fly rod is acts the best as there.

913
00:41:55,600 --> 00:41:58,040
Speaker 7: I mean it's not New Orleans, but the amount of

914
00:41:58,040 --> 00:42:00,239
Speaker 7: big fish, but there's the same amount of fish, so

915
00:42:00,320 --> 00:42:04,279
Speaker 7: let's yeah, it's a special special place for yeah, those

916
00:42:04,640 --> 00:42:06,160
Speaker 7: those categories, so that's a bonus.

917
00:42:06,239 --> 00:42:09,120
Speaker 1: Yeah, absolutely, coach, thanks a lot, good welcome, Thank you guys.

918
00:42:09,280 --> 00:42:12,760
Speaker 1: All right, there is defensive passing game coordinator Corey Undlin

919
00:42:12,920 --> 00:42:16,680
Speaker 1: coming up, the injury report, who's on it, who practiced,

920
00:42:16,719 --> 00:42:19,719
Speaker 1: who didn't, plus Houston Methodist minutes. It's all happening here

921
00:42:19,840 --> 00:42:23,319
Speaker 1: on Texans All Access. Final segment of the show, and

922
00:42:23,360 --> 00:42:27,520
Speaker 1: it's packed with information hot reads presented by Mattress Firm

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Speaker 1: the official sleep partner of the Houston Texans, and it's

924
00:42:30,480 --> 00:42:32,279
Speaker 1: not exactly a hot read. I don't want to call

925
00:42:32,320 --> 00:42:36,640
Speaker 1: it a buzzkill either. For the second consecutive day missing

926
00:42:36,920 --> 00:42:43,399
Speaker 1: practice as he's au Schier, Florunzo Faticassi, Kamari Lassiter, Henry Toatoo,

927
00:42:44,080 --> 00:42:48,719
Speaker 1: Jimmy Ward, Robert Woods. Those guys all missed practiced yesterday

928
00:42:48,800 --> 00:42:51,920
Speaker 1: and they missed practice today, So that's not good limited

929
00:42:51,920 --> 00:42:55,000
Speaker 1: today again, Joe Mixon with an ankle, del Sean Phillips

930
00:42:55,360 --> 00:42:59,799
Speaker 1: with a hip, and Laramie tunsl full participation today. That's

931
00:42:59,800 --> 00:43:01,840
Speaker 1: good news with an ankle injury. As far as the

932
00:43:01,840 --> 00:43:04,360
Speaker 1: guys who did not practice today, I have no idea

933
00:43:04,680 --> 00:43:06,960
Speaker 1: whether or not they will be available for the game.

934
00:43:07,160 --> 00:43:10,000
Speaker 1: Obviously they're not on IR since they're on this report,

935
00:43:10,560 --> 00:43:13,239
Speaker 1: So that doesn't mean, as Bill O'Brien would say, this

936
00:43:13,360 --> 00:43:15,920
Speaker 1: means it's not life threatening, meaning they're not going to

937
00:43:15,920 --> 00:43:18,560
Speaker 1: be out for a long time. But man, you got

938
00:43:18,560 --> 00:43:21,680
Speaker 1: to get those linebackers back because if a Zz and

939
00:43:21,840 --> 00:43:25,000
Speaker 1: Henry can't go, you are looking at Neville Hewitt and

940
00:43:25,120 --> 00:43:26,920
Speaker 1: Jake Hanson. Now that's not the worst thing in the

941
00:43:26,920 --> 00:43:28,960
Speaker 1: world at all. Those guys are good players, but you

942
00:43:29,040 --> 00:43:32,279
Speaker 1: get really thin in a hurry behind those guys because

943
00:43:32,360 --> 00:43:35,319
Speaker 1: Dell Shawn is actually on this report as limited he's

944
00:43:35,360 --> 00:43:38,360
Speaker 1: a linebacker, and you still have Jamal Hill rookie.

945
00:43:38,400 --> 00:43:39,400
Speaker 2: All right, let's get to this.

946
00:43:39,760 --> 00:43:43,680
Speaker 1: As we mentioned last week, it's Houston Methodist Minutes and

947
00:43:43,680 --> 00:43:46,160
Speaker 1: it's Breast Cancer Awareness Month, and we had part one

948
00:43:46,200 --> 00:43:50,480
Speaker 1: of our conversation with doctor Ashcott Pury of Houston Methodists.

949
00:43:50,640 --> 00:43:53,400
Speaker 1: Let's get to part two and talk about detection. Do

950
00:43:53,480 --> 00:43:57,400
Speaker 1: you have to go in? Is self examination a possibility

951
00:43:57,440 --> 00:43:59,640
Speaker 1: to find out if you actually have breast cancer or

952
00:43:59,680 --> 00:44:00,359
Speaker 1: could have it?

953
00:44:00,520 --> 00:44:01,360
Speaker 2: Here's the doctor.

954
00:44:01,880 --> 00:44:05,040
Speaker 8: Yeah, So we always educate our patients to be very

955
00:44:05,080 --> 00:44:09,120
Speaker 8: aware of their breast. Self examination definitely helps in appreciating

956
00:44:09,160 --> 00:44:13,160
Speaker 8: any differences, whether it's skin changes, nipple changes, any in

957
00:44:13,400 --> 00:44:16,239
Speaker 8: like you know, deviation from normal. So I think it's

958
00:44:16,320 --> 00:44:19,280
Speaker 8: really good to be aware of your body and notify

959
00:44:19,360 --> 00:44:23,080
Speaker 8: of your provider for any changes that come up. But

960
00:44:23,080 --> 00:44:26,720
Speaker 8: by the time patients feel something, it's generally a little

961
00:44:26,719 --> 00:44:30,000
Speaker 8: bit bigger and the chances to spread to limb sndes

962
00:44:30,080 --> 00:44:35,120
Speaker 8: do increase, So I would not rely on self exam alone.

963
00:44:35,400 --> 00:44:38,680
Speaker 8: That is why the mimmographies come into practice because to

964
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Speaker 8: pick up these findings really early on, before you can

965
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Speaker 8: even feel something. So it's technically very difficult to feel

966
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Speaker 8: a breast cancer that's less than one centimeter, which is

967
00:44:48,239 --> 00:44:51,360
Speaker 8: less than half an inch basically, So I would imagine

968
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Speaker 8: a mammography would pick that up very easily. We can

969
00:44:54,680 --> 00:44:58,520
Speaker 8: cure it, you know, surgery, radiation, everything it takes, and

970
00:44:58,560 --> 00:45:01,680
Speaker 8: then you know, women lead differently normal lives. But if

971
00:45:01,680 --> 00:45:03,640
Speaker 8: you wait too long, then that breast mass grows a

972
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Speaker 8: little bit until you feel it, and then the treatments

973
00:45:06,120 --> 00:45:08,640
Speaker 8: can be a little bit more extensive than they would

974
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Speaker 8: have been if we got it on the memography earlier.

975
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Speaker 2: So treatment is better than ever.

976
00:45:13,160 --> 00:45:17,000
Speaker 1: But what about the number of people who are actually diagnosed?

977
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Speaker 1: That number seems to be increasing. Am I right about that?

978
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Speaker 1: Could you take us through that a little bit.

979
00:45:21,520 --> 00:45:24,719
Speaker 8: Yeah, So the breast cancer incidents, like all other cancers,

980
00:45:24,760 --> 00:45:27,680
Speaker 8: has been increasing every year. I think this has to

981
00:45:27,760 --> 00:45:33,440
Speaker 8: do with a factor of the many manufactors, including our environment.

982
00:45:33,680 --> 00:45:37,719
Speaker 8: You know, North America, b city is very prevalent, and

983
00:45:38,160 --> 00:45:42,320
Speaker 8: we tend to eat everything, drink everything, and our lifestyle

984
00:45:42,320 --> 00:45:44,840
Speaker 8: does not have a lot of physical activity. For most

985
00:45:44,840 --> 00:45:49,000
Speaker 8: people in their normal routine. So I think these factors

986
00:45:49,040 --> 00:45:52,200
Speaker 8: are very big contributing factors to the increasing incidents of

987
00:45:52,239 --> 00:45:56,160
Speaker 8: cancer in general and especially for women. It has been

988
00:45:56,200 --> 00:45:59,000
Speaker 8: shown that women who are overweighted, who are less physically active,

989
00:45:59,160 --> 00:46:01,440
Speaker 8: the breast cancer incident is generally higher in this with

990
00:46:01,520 --> 00:46:05,520
Speaker 8: these patient groups as well. So I would say because

991
00:46:05,520 --> 00:46:10,120
Speaker 8: of these full factors environmental, lifestyle, genetic our cancer risk

992
00:46:10,280 --> 00:46:13,320
Speaker 8: is increasing over time, and we're seeing much younger women

993
00:46:13,400 --> 00:46:16,560
Speaker 8: get diagnosed with breast cancer as well. In fact, even

994
00:46:16,600 --> 00:46:19,320
Speaker 8: patients who don't have any genetic mutations like the Braca

995
00:46:19,440 --> 00:46:22,200
Speaker 8: mutation are now getting diagnosed with breast cancer at a

996
00:46:22,320 --> 00:46:24,879
Speaker 8: very young age. So the things to keep in mind

997
00:46:24,920 --> 00:46:28,080
Speaker 8: would be really lifestyle changes. Making sure you get your

998
00:46:28,160 --> 00:46:30,719
Speaker 8: high intensity exercise at least two to four times a week,

999
00:46:31,440 --> 00:46:36,400
Speaker 8: eat healthy increased fruits and vegetables, and eat a very protein,

1000
00:46:36,600 --> 00:46:39,760
Speaker 8: high fiber diet and just stay healthy.

1001
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Speaker 2: Doctor, that's great information, Thanks so much for joining.

1002
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Speaker 8: Us, Hirai, Thank you so much for having me.

1003
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Speaker 2: Mark.

1004
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Speaker 1: Now that's doctor Ashcott Purrie of Houston Methodist and that's

1005
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Speaker 1: part two of our conversation on breast cancer for this month,

1006
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Speaker 1: Breast Cancer Awareness Month. It's the official healthcare provider of

1007
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Speaker 1: the Houston Texans, Houston Methodist leading medicine that's going to

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Speaker 1: do it for the show Texans at Green Bay Sunday

1009
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Speaker 1: at noon. You know it, I know it. We can't

1010
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Speaker 1: wait for the action. It'll be live right here on

1011
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1012
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1013
00:47:13,920 --> 00:47:17,720
Speaker 1: Tank Dell, Jonathan Alexander of the Chronicle, a whole bunch

1014
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Speaker 1: of other stuff, So tune in at six. Have a

1015
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