1 00:00:11,480 --> 00:00:12,840 Speaker 1: And welcome in lay Kick is Live. 2 00:00:12,840 --> 00:00:15,160 Speaker 2: It is Sunday Night, May Night, the Year of Our Lord, 3 00:00:15,200 --> 00:00:19,840 Speaker 2: twenty twenty one, a jam packed show as always on 4 00:00:19,920 --> 00:00:22,639 Speaker 2: deck for you tonight T minus one hundred and eighteen 5 00:00:22,760 --> 00:00:25,200 Speaker 2: days until kickoff, and we've really got no time to 6 00:00:25,200 --> 00:00:27,639 Speaker 2: waste cost to be honest with you, well hold on, 7 00:00:27,720 --> 00:00:30,080 Speaker 2: let me all right now, I'm looking at our content 8 00:00:30,120 --> 00:00:32,880 Speaker 2: map over the next few months, and to be honest, 9 00:00:32,920 --> 00:00:35,040 Speaker 2: as everyone else says the dreaded O word out there, 10 00:00:35,120 --> 00:00:36,559 Speaker 2: I have no clue how we're gonna fit all this in. 11 00:00:36,640 --> 00:00:38,559 Speaker 2: So we got a ton to get to. Hey, he 12 00:00:38,640 --> 00:00:40,920 Speaker 2: warned you, He warned you. It's what we're going to 13 00:00:41,040 --> 00:00:42,879 Speaker 2: lead the show with in just a few minutes. I 14 00:00:42,920 --> 00:00:45,640 Speaker 2: know we believe in pronouns around here. At the moment, 15 00:00:45,680 --> 00:00:47,960 Speaker 2: I'm just gonna leave it at he he warned you. 16 00:00:48,080 --> 00:00:49,640 Speaker 2: I'll tell you what I mean. How about the Pac 17 00:00:49,720 --> 00:00:51,959 Speaker 2: twelve and the Big twelve. I record the Late Kick 18 00:00:51,960 --> 00:00:54,279 Speaker 2: Extra podcast every Tuesday and Thursday morning, and it's all 19 00:00:54,320 --> 00:00:54,680 Speaker 2: Q and A. 20 00:00:54,760 --> 00:00:57,280 Speaker 1: It's all you submitting and then me responding. 21 00:00:57,840 --> 00:01:01,560 Speaker 2: But Bryce, friend of the program, submitted a question for 22 00:01:01,760 --> 00:01:03,960 Speaker 2: a podcast this coming week that I said, Well, let's 23 00:01:03,960 --> 00:01:05,520 Speaker 2: not wait, because that's going to go really good on 24 00:01:05,520 --> 00:01:06,360 Speaker 2: the Sunday Night show. 25 00:01:06,720 --> 00:01:07,240 Speaker 1: Who do you think? 26 00:01:07,560 --> 00:01:09,000 Speaker 2: I'm gonna put the question out there, and I'll give 27 00:01:09,000 --> 00:01:10,479 Speaker 2: you some time to think about it. If I were 28 00:01:10,520 --> 00:01:13,560 Speaker 2: to tell you, conference wise, doesn't matter who wins it, 29 00:01:13,600 --> 00:01:17,120 Speaker 2: but conference wise, which of those conferences needs a national title? 30 00:01:17,160 --> 00:01:20,120 Speaker 2: More Pac twelve Big twelve. You can have your own reasoning. 31 00:01:20,200 --> 00:01:21,840 Speaker 2: Just think about that. We'll get to it in a second. 32 00:01:22,040 --> 00:01:25,280 Speaker 2: How about the gap for Ohio State? I had one 33 00:01:25,280 --> 00:01:28,720 Speaker 2: of you last week, ironically enough, on one of those podcasts, 34 00:01:28,840 --> 00:01:32,200 Speaker 2: suggests that there's still a gap, a big gap between 35 00:01:32,200 --> 00:01:35,960 Speaker 2: Ohio State Alabama. I've always wondered how we quantify these gaps. 36 00:01:36,080 --> 00:01:38,320 Speaker 2: On any given day, it's called a point spread. On 37 00:01:38,360 --> 00:01:40,840 Speaker 2: any given afternoon, at the end of a game, it's 38 00:01:40,840 --> 00:01:43,480 Speaker 2: called a scoreboard. But yet, program wise, how do you 39 00:01:43,520 --> 00:01:46,360 Speaker 2: really quantify a gap? Think on that, because I don't 40 00:01:46,360 --> 00:01:48,760 Speaker 2: think there is really one, but I apparently may be 41 00:01:48,880 --> 00:01:51,480 Speaker 2: in the minority there. And also here at twenty four 42 00:01:51,480 --> 00:01:54,280 Speaker 2: to seven Sports, we debuted our brand new post spring 43 00:01:54,680 --> 00:01:55,640 Speaker 2: top twenty five. 44 00:01:55,720 --> 00:01:57,080 Speaker 1: It's right here, it's at the bottom. 45 00:01:57,240 --> 00:02:00,520 Speaker 2: I can still feel the heat gently resonated off of 46 00:02:00,560 --> 00:02:02,960 Speaker 2: this piece of paper because Number one colin I got 47 00:02:03,000 --> 00:02:05,440 Speaker 2: the printer to work from my laptop, so congratulations to me. 48 00:02:05,480 --> 00:02:07,400 Speaker 2: And number two just printed that bad boy off not 49 00:02:07,440 --> 00:02:09,040 Speaker 2: too long ago. So we got a ton to get into. 50 00:02:09,400 --> 00:02:12,320 Speaker 2: A little nugget I dropped on. I think the Thursday 51 00:02:12,360 --> 00:02:14,040 Speaker 2: show really made a splash. 52 00:02:14,120 --> 00:02:16,040 Speaker 1: I mentioned to you guys very subtly. 53 00:02:16,080 --> 00:02:18,639 Speaker 2: I thought about whispering it that we're gonna be doing 54 00:02:18,639 --> 00:02:22,360 Speaker 2: some pretty creative stuff with Instagram Live this coming season. 55 00:02:22,800 --> 00:02:26,000 Speaker 2: A lot of our betting content will be pushed over there. 56 00:02:26,000 --> 00:02:28,040 Speaker 2: Now I'm gonna talk a ton of college football betting 57 00:02:28,080 --> 00:02:28,840 Speaker 2: on the shows. 58 00:02:28,880 --> 00:02:30,320 Speaker 1: Don't think that a bunch of you. 59 00:02:30,240 --> 00:02:32,880 Speaker 2: Thought I was outsourcing or pushing all of my betting 60 00:02:32,960 --> 00:02:36,520 Speaker 2: content off. No, the ram Noodle Express will chug right 61 00:02:36,560 --> 00:02:38,600 Speaker 2: through the station that is Late Cake Live every single 62 00:02:38,639 --> 00:02:40,160 Speaker 2: week in the season like it did last year. 63 00:02:40,880 --> 00:02:43,440 Speaker 1: But we just we can't go in depth. 64 00:02:43,200 --> 00:02:45,720 Speaker 2: On Wyoming versus San Diego State on the show, and 65 00:02:45,800 --> 00:02:47,840 Speaker 2: I think the reasons are obvious. But what we can 66 00:02:47,880 --> 00:02:50,240 Speaker 2: do is crank up the eye Josh and go Instagram 67 00:02:50,280 --> 00:02:52,320 Speaker 2: Live for you guys, maybe on Sunday night, maybe on 68 00:02:52,400 --> 00:02:54,519 Speaker 2: Friday night, and we can talk about that stuff to 69 00:02:54,560 --> 00:02:56,880 Speaker 2: we're blue in the face, So yeah, that's coming. 70 00:02:57,160 --> 00:02:59,240 Speaker 1: That's why I strongly encourage you beat the rush. 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And 84 00:03:29,720 --> 00:03:31,359 Speaker 2: you know what I really love as we dive into 85 00:03:31,400 --> 00:03:34,600 Speaker 2: the show is when you guys send me or tag 86 00:03:34,720 --> 00:03:38,080 Speaker 2: me in evidence and pictures that you're listening to the pod, 87 00:03:38,280 --> 00:03:40,200 Speaker 2: especially when you tell me where you're listening to it at. 88 00:03:40,320 --> 00:03:42,560 Speaker 2: I'll shoot that stuff, I'll retweet that stuff, and I 89 00:03:42,600 --> 00:03:44,480 Speaker 2: will share that in my story all day long. So 90 00:03:44,520 --> 00:03:45,680 Speaker 2: thank you for that, because a lot of you did 91 00:03:45,720 --> 00:03:49,280 Speaker 2: that this week. All right, let me dust my hands 92 00:03:49,280 --> 00:03:52,320 Speaker 2: off and let's dive in tonight. Nick Saban tried to 93 00:03:52,360 --> 00:03:56,120 Speaker 2: warn you once and twice and three times, a warning 94 00:03:56,160 --> 00:03:58,760 Speaker 2: if you will, and some of you listened, and some 95 00:03:58,800 --> 00:04:01,960 Speaker 2: of you didn't listen, And now here we go. Henry 96 00:04:01,960 --> 00:04:04,360 Speaker 2: Totoo is the very first thing I want to talk about. 97 00:04:04,360 --> 00:04:06,440 Speaker 2: But then I want to expand this much broader than 98 00:04:06,480 --> 00:04:11,280 Speaker 2: just one linebacker transferring from Tennessee to Alabama. Henry Toatoo 99 00:04:11,400 --> 00:04:14,720 Speaker 2: yesterday did make it official. He has transferred from Tennessee 100 00:04:14,800 --> 00:04:17,880 Speaker 2: to Alabama. Now, this did not send off alarm bells 101 00:04:17,880 --> 00:04:19,680 Speaker 2: around here. We told you two months ago it was 102 00:04:19,680 --> 00:04:22,080 Speaker 2: probably happening. I know there was some Ohio state smoke, 103 00:04:22,200 --> 00:04:25,119 Speaker 2: but that was not smoke that was resonating from any fire. 104 00:04:25,720 --> 00:04:28,200 Speaker 2: We had pretty good guidance the whole time that if 105 00:04:28,240 --> 00:04:30,800 Speaker 2: the SEC was going to pass that rule where you 106 00:04:30,800 --> 00:04:34,280 Speaker 2: could immediately transfer within the conference without sitting out, Alabama 107 00:04:34,400 --> 00:04:37,520 Speaker 2: was going to be the destination for his dad's role 108 00:04:37,560 --> 00:04:39,960 Speaker 2: in all of this. He made that abundantly clear when 109 00:04:40,000 --> 00:04:42,000 Speaker 2: he talked to Hank South and the guys over at 110 00:04:42,000 --> 00:04:44,160 Speaker 2: Bama online dot Com a couple of months ago, and 111 00:04:44,200 --> 00:04:46,640 Speaker 2: we were given no reason to believe anything along those 112 00:04:46,680 --> 00:04:47,560 Speaker 2: lines had changed. 113 00:04:47,800 --> 00:04:48,760 Speaker 1: Well, now it's happened. 114 00:04:48,839 --> 00:04:51,719 Speaker 2: Okay, So just when it comes to the player, because 115 00:04:51,760 --> 00:04:53,880 Speaker 2: I haven't spoken to you about this, when it comes 116 00:04:53,920 --> 00:04:57,039 Speaker 2: to the player, he is an immediate impact player, but 117 00:04:57,240 --> 00:04:59,200 Speaker 2: more so, he's a guy that gives them the kind 118 00:04:59,200 --> 00:05:00,400 Speaker 2: of depth that they had had. 119 00:05:00,600 --> 00:05:02,880 Speaker 1: Alabama hasn't had linebacker depth in a couple of years. 120 00:05:02,880 --> 00:05:05,200 Speaker 2: One of the dirty secrets, even if they have maintained 121 00:05:05,400 --> 00:05:08,039 Speaker 2: their status is one of the best in America, is 122 00:05:08,120 --> 00:05:11,120 Speaker 2: linebacker's been a weakness for him. Wide receivers masked that 123 00:05:11,200 --> 00:05:14,200 Speaker 2: quarterback has masked it. Offensive line hasn't taken a drop, 124 00:05:14,440 --> 00:05:18,520 Speaker 2: linebacker has, and Alabama got perilously thin there. 125 00:05:18,520 --> 00:05:20,920 Speaker 1: You know how rarely I use that word. And now 126 00:05:20,920 --> 00:05:21,760 Speaker 1: they're not anymore. 127 00:05:21,880 --> 00:05:24,880 Speaker 2: You could make an argument, as preview magazine season approaches. 128 00:05:24,920 --> 00:05:26,560 Speaker 2: You know how much we love that, you can make 129 00:05:26,560 --> 00:05:30,200 Speaker 2: an argument. They're inside linebacker room and their outside linebacker 130 00:05:30,279 --> 00:05:32,719 Speaker 2: room are among, if not at the very top of 131 00:05:32,720 --> 00:05:33,159 Speaker 2: the sport. 132 00:05:33,200 --> 00:05:33,479 Speaker 1: Again. 133 00:05:33,760 --> 00:05:36,160 Speaker 2: And also, what they can do is a concept that's 134 00:05:36,200 --> 00:05:38,520 Speaker 2: almost foreign. It's been so long since they could do it. 135 00:05:39,000 --> 00:05:42,120 Speaker 2: There's this word, and sometimes you can use this word 136 00:05:42,200 --> 00:05:43,920 Speaker 2: in a sentence about how you're going to approach a 137 00:05:43,960 --> 00:05:47,120 Speaker 2: game when you have depth, and it's called rotate, you 138 00:05:47,160 --> 00:05:49,679 Speaker 2: can rotate. So everyone's looking at this as an either 139 00:05:49,839 --> 00:05:52,400 Speaker 2: or Oh my goodness, Toatoo's coming in. What are they 140 00:05:52,400 --> 00:05:55,080 Speaker 2: going to do with Jalen Moody. He's bided his time, 141 00:05:55,160 --> 00:05:57,440 Speaker 2: he's waited his turn. Well, what they'll probably do is 142 00:05:57,520 --> 00:05:59,680 Speaker 2: just end up playing both of them, maybe one more 143 00:05:59,720 --> 00:06:01,640 Speaker 2: than the other. But what they'll probably do is find 144 00:06:01,680 --> 00:06:04,560 Speaker 2: ways and various personnel packages to get a number of 145 00:06:04,960 --> 00:06:07,120 Speaker 2: number of guys' reps because man, they're so loaded, and 146 00:06:07,160 --> 00:06:10,159 Speaker 2: a lot of young guys coming in too. But I 147 00:06:10,200 --> 00:06:11,760 Speaker 2: didn't want to talk about toe of Toe. I just 148 00:06:11,800 --> 00:06:13,400 Speaker 2: wanted to touch on him. What I want to do 149 00:06:13,440 --> 00:06:15,440 Speaker 2: is broaden this out a little bit because I seem 150 00:06:15,520 --> 00:06:20,080 Speaker 2: to remember some people, maybe some more notable than others, 151 00:06:20,080 --> 00:06:23,440 Speaker 2: but some people indicating to me that this whole transfer 152 00:06:23,560 --> 00:06:25,560 Speaker 2: portal deal, it was going to even out the sport. 153 00:06:25,680 --> 00:06:27,800 Speaker 2: You know, it was going to take from the halves, 154 00:06:27,839 --> 00:06:29,440 Speaker 2: it was going to give the have nots and all 155 00:06:29,440 --> 00:06:32,920 Speaker 2: of these megapower programs, Alabama chief among them. They weren't 156 00:06:32,960 --> 00:06:34,560 Speaker 2: just going to be able to stack all these good 157 00:06:34,600 --> 00:06:36,800 Speaker 2: players on a roster. And so those guys were going 158 00:06:36,880 --> 00:06:38,479 Speaker 2: to go in there, and the ones that started they 159 00:06:38,520 --> 00:06:40,680 Speaker 2: were probably gonna stay, and then the ones that were 160 00:06:40,760 --> 00:06:42,720 Speaker 2: riding the bench when they knew they could start elsewhere, 161 00:06:42,800 --> 00:06:45,480 Speaker 2: there was going to be this mass exodus every single year. 162 00:06:45,520 --> 00:06:48,359 Speaker 2: I seem to remember that. But I also seem to 163 00:06:48,400 --> 00:06:52,040 Speaker 2: remember that we came on this program and said, oh, 164 00:06:52,120 --> 00:06:54,960 Speaker 2: I don't know, I don't know about that, And here 165 00:06:55,000 --> 00:06:57,880 Speaker 2: we are now. Granted we're still only a couple of 166 00:06:57,920 --> 00:07:00,160 Speaker 2: years into what we could call the transfer portal air era. 167 00:07:00,480 --> 00:07:02,080 Speaker 1: We're now several years. 168 00:07:01,800 --> 00:07:05,200 Speaker 2: In comparatively to the college football playoff era, so we've 169 00:07:05,240 --> 00:07:06,960 Speaker 2: figured out a little bit more of the impact that's 170 00:07:06,960 --> 00:07:09,200 Speaker 2: happened on the game. But now we're starting to learn 171 00:07:09,480 --> 00:07:12,680 Speaker 2: about the transfer portal. We will eventually learn about name, 172 00:07:12,800 --> 00:07:15,480 Speaker 2: image and likeness. If you ever expand the playoff past 173 00:07:15,480 --> 00:07:18,480 Speaker 2: four you're going to learn about that. But what I 174 00:07:18,560 --> 00:07:21,760 Speaker 2: want to talk about at the moment is the group 175 00:07:21,800 --> 00:07:24,280 Speaker 2: of people, and it's a sizeable group. And I don't 176 00:07:24,320 --> 00:07:27,120 Speaker 2: mention this disrespectfully. It's just a difference of opinion when 177 00:07:27,160 --> 00:07:31,200 Speaker 2: it comes to something like college football, Okay, But I 178 00:07:31,200 --> 00:07:33,760 Speaker 2: want to talk to those of you who continue to 179 00:07:33,760 --> 00:07:38,240 Speaker 2: support these measures and support these as advancements and progress 180 00:07:38,360 --> 00:07:40,400 Speaker 2: towards balancing the sport out. 181 00:07:41,120 --> 00:07:42,720 Speaker 1: I just want to ask, is it working out the 182 00:07:42,720 --> 00:07:44,040 Speaker 1: way that you thought it was going to? 183 00:07:45,160 --> 00:07:46,800 Speaker 2: In fact, I would like to ask you to name 184 00:07:46,840 --> 00:07:49,600 Speaker 2: me a single change that college football has undergone that 185 00:07:49,640 --> 00:07:52,280 Speaker 2: has brought Alabama and the like closer to the pack 186 00:07:52,400 --> 00:07:54,720 Speaker 2: or brought the pack closer to Alabama, because I'm thinking 187 00:07:54,760 --> 00:07:57,080 Speaker 2: about everything back to the sab And rule. When they 188 00:07:57,120 --> 00:07:59,240 Speaker 2: passed it. Head coaches can't be on the road to 189 00:07:59,280 --> 00:08:02,360 Speaker 2: evaluate and recruit and spring. Well, the guy has finished 190 00:08:02,400 --> 00:08:04,680 Speaker 2: first in the recruiting rankings nine out of the last 191 00:08:04,720 --> 00:08:08,840 Speaker 2: eleven years. And then you had not supporting standardizing the 192 00:08:08,920 --> 00:08:11,080 Speaker 2: rules where RPOs wouldn't take over the game and you 193 00:08:11,120 --> 00:08:13,120 Speaker 2: had the offensive lineman three yards downfield. 194 00:08:13,360 --> 00:08:15,560 Speaker 1: He wanted the NFL rule. You said no. 195 00:08:15,840 --> 00:08:17,720 Speaker 2: He said, okay, is this what you want college football 196 00:08:17,760 --> 00:08:19,400 Speaker 2: to be a lot of You said yes. So he 197 00:08:19,560 --> 00:08:21,880 Speaker 2: just built an entire buzzsaw of an offense, and now 198 00:08:22,160 --> 00:08:24,280 Speaker 2: you're lucky if you keep him under fifty points a game. 199 00:08:24,840 --> 00:08:26,360 Speaker 1: And then the College Football. 200 00:08:26,000 --> 00:08:29,200 Speaker 2: Playoff comes along because Alabama gotten a twenty eleven title 201 00:08:29,240 --> 00:08:30,200 Speaker 2: game that you didn't. 202 00:08:29,960 --> 00:08:31,120 Speaker 1: Think they had any business in. 203 00:08:31,440 --> 00:08:34,120 Speaker 2: I disagree, but nevertheless, he said, hey, this is going 204 00:08:34,200 --> 00:08:36,600 Speaker 2: to devalue Bowl season. And what he didn't say, but 205 00:08:36,720 --> 00:08:38,360 Speaker 2: it was true, is we're gonna make it in and 206 00:08:38,440 --> 00:08:41,240 Speaker 2: we're going to win anyway. And so you created your 207 00:08:41,240 --> 00:08:43,840 Speaker 2: playoff and they've won three more since then, they've only 208 00:08:43,880 --> 00:08:47,000 Speaker 2: missed one. And so there we are with the playoff 209 00:08:47,120 --> 00:08:48,880 Speaker 2: and now we're talking about expanding it again. 210 00:08:49,200 --> 00:08:53,120 Speaker 1: But then the whole transfer portal issue comes up. Everybody's excited. 211 00:08:53,160 --> 00:08:54,920 Speaker 2: This is what's going to get Alabama, this is what's 212 00:08:54,920 --> 00:08:56,200 Speaker 2: going to really bring him back to earth. 213 00:08:56,559 --> 00:08:59,040 Speaker 1: And he says, we're going to take advantage of this. 214 00:08:59,160 --> 00:09:01,920 Speaker 2: We're going to lose good we're gonna go get great players, 215 00:09:01,960 --> 00:09:03,480 Speaker 2: and the rich are gonna get richer. 216 00:09:03,640 --> 00:09:05,280 Speaker 1: And he says it all the while with this calm 217 00:09:05,280 --> 00:09:06,160 Speaker 1: demeanor on his face. 218 00:09:06,200 --> 00:09:10,080 Speaker 2: It's almost like a concerned but very docile father saying 219 00:09:11,040 --> 00:09:12,920 Speaker 2: you can make the decisions, son, you're just gonna have 220 00:09:12,960 --> 00:09:15,640 Speaker 2: to live with the consequences. And right now, college football, 221 00:09:15,760 --> 00:09:18,040 Speaker 2: essentially what they're doing in order to get rid of 222 00:09:18,080 --> 00:09:20,120 Speaker 2: their Alabama debt is they're just going and buying more 223 00:09:20,120 --> 00:09:23,160 Speaker 2: credit cards. College football is the twenty year old that 224 00:09:23,200 --> 00:09:25,560 Speaker 2: thinks he's figured out the solution to his debt, and 225 00:09:25,559 --> 00:09:27,080 Speaker 2: he goes and buys the credit card to pay off 226 00:09:27,120 --> 00:09:29,160 Speaker 2: his debt. He's got more credit card debt, and then 227 00:09:29,559 --> 00:09:33,040 Speaker 2: so on and so forth until you can't get out 228 00:09:33,080 --> 00:09:33,679 Speaker 2: of the debt. 229 00:09:33,920 --> 00:09:36,800 Speaker 1: And right now, Alabama, the sum. 230 00:09:36,720 --> 00:09:38,920 Speaker 2: Of all these changes that have been made to college 231 00:09:38,920 --> 00:09:41,200 Speaker 2: football is they are as good as they've ever been. 232 00:09:41,480 --> 00:09:43,760 Speaker 2: The sum of all these changes, as Nick Saban is 233 00:09:43,760 --> 00:09:45,720 Speaker 2: as good as he's ever been. And the sum to 234 00:09:45,800 --> 00:09:48,800 Speaker 2: all these changes is there is a bigger gulf between 235 00:09:48,840 --> 00:09:51,440 Speaker 2: the haves and the have nots. And so here comes 236 00:09:51,520 --> 00:09:54,480 Speaker 2: that same crowd again, and that same crowd, as sure 237 00:09:54,480 --> 00:09:56,839 Speaker 2: as the sun rises in the morning, someone will find 238 00:09:56,840 --> 00:09:59,280 Speaker 2: a way into my Twitter mentions and they'll start talking 239 00:09:59,280 --> 00:10:02,040 Speaker 2: about how expanding the playoff is going to be different. 240 00:10:02,440 --> 00:10:04,599 Speaker 1: Now, this this, and this didn't. 241 00:10:04,360 --> 00:10:07,120 Speaker 2: Work out, but expanding this playoff that's going to be 242 00:10:07,120 --> 00:10:10,200 Speaker 2: the answer to all of our problems. And I'm telling you, 243 00:10:10,280 --> 00:10:12,440 Speaker 2: please learn from history. Not that you're gonna make the 244 00:10:12,600 --> 00:10:15,160 Speaker 2: call on this, but please learn from history. Just because 245 00:10:15,200 --> 00:10:17,920 Speaker 2: it doesn't make sense to you doesn't mean it doesn't 246 00:10:17,920 --> 00:10:22,600 Speaker 2: make sense. What's gonna end up happening is Nick Saban's 247 00:10:22,600 --> 00:10:24,720 Speaker 2: gonna look at you like he already is, and he's 248 00:10:24,760 --> 00:10:27,440 Speaker 2: gonna not support expansion, and a lot of other ones 249 00:10:27,440 --> 00:10:31,080 Speaker 2: are shocker because it's their only way in, and a 250 00:10:31,080 --> 00:10:32,920 Speaker 2: lot of people are going to look at it and say, well, 251 00:10:32,920 --> 00:10:35,600 Speaker 2: that's just I think that's what's best for the game. Really, 252 00:10:35,600 --> 00:10:37,600 Speaker 2: what you mean is it's what's best for your program 253 00:10:37,600 --> 00:10:40,120 Speaker 2: because it probably gives you, percentage wise a better. 254 00:10:40,000 --> 00:10:43,200 Speaker 1: Chance right now. But what I simply ask with all these. 255 00:10:43,160 --> 00:10:47,160 Speaker 2: Changes is this, do you know any fair system out 256 00:10:47,200 --> 00:10:50,480 Speaker 2: there thus far designed well, I wouldn't say designed by 257 00:10:50,520 --> 00:10:52,920 Speaker 2: anyone in college football. I'll put it like this, do 258 00:10:52,960 --> 00:10:56,319 Speaker 2: you know any fair system out there thus far designed 259 00:10:56,360 --> 00:11:00,720 Speaker 2: by man period that has built in a mechan that 260 00:11:00,840 --> 00:11:04,000 Speaker 2: can balance superiority and can balance greatness. 261 00:11:04,000 --> 00:11:04,679 Speaker 1: Because I don't. 262 00:11:04,960 --> 00:11:07,600 Speaker 2: I'm looking around, and I'm looking at whether it's recruiting 263 00:11:07,679 --> 00:11:10,840 Speaker 2: rules in the spring, or whether it's lineman three yards 264 00:11:10,840 --> 00:11:14,080 Speaker 2: downfield or one yard downfield, or whether it's expanding a 265 00:11:14,120 --> 00:11:16,920 Speaker 2: playoff or the transfer portal or nil. I just keep 266 00:11:16,960 --> 00:11:19,079 Speaker 2: seeing the greatest in the game. In this case, Nick 267 00:11:19,120 --> 00:11:22,400 Speaker 2: Saban able to leverage it better than anyone else, and 268 00:11:22,520 --> 00:11:25,000 Speaker 2: him using it as a launching pad to further distance 269 00:11:25,040 --> 00:11:28,360 Speaker 2: his program from the rest of the sport. You say, 270 00:11:28,400 --> 00:11:31,480 Speaker 2: expanding this and tweaking that and changing this will be 271 00:11:31,600 --> 00:11:34,280 Speaker 2: what provides more balance in the sport. I say, him 272 00:11:34,280 --> 00:11:37,040 Speaker 2: retiring is at this point the only way or you 273 00:11:37,200 --> 00:11:39,280 Speaker 2: beating him is the only way that you're going to 274 00:11:39,320 --> 00:11:42,720 Speaker 2: balance out Alabama. But here he is telling you again, 275 00:11:43,080 --> 00:11:44,800 Speaker 2: like he's been nice and kind enough to do so 276 00:11:44,800 --> 00:11:48,240 Speaker 2: many times before, don't expand it, don't do it. And 277 00:11:48,559 --> 00:11:51,120 Speaker 2: he's got that docile look on his face again. He's 278 00:11:51,120 --> 00:11:53,680 Speaker 2: not smiling, he's not winking, kind of like when Jimbo 279 00:11:53,720 --> 00:11:55,320 Speaker 2: the other day said he was going to do you 280 00:11:55,360 --> 00:11:59,160 Speaker 2: know what to him. I mean, the most logical explanation 281 00:11:59,280 --> 00:12:02,240 Speaker 2: that came to Nick Saban's mind when his biggest competition 282 00:12:02,320 --> 00:12:04,760 Speaker 2: in the West talked about beating him, was is he 283 00:12:04,800 --> 00:12:06,760 Speaker 2: even talking about football or is he what? 284 00:12:07,000 --> 00:12:09,000 Speaker 1: Is he talking about another sport? So that's where we 285 00:12:09,040 --> 00:12:09,840 Speaker 1: are right now in the West. 286 00:12:09,840 --> 00:12:12,880 Speaker 2: But by all means, keep tweaking that, keep tweaking that 287 00:12:12,920 --> 00:12:14,720 Speaker 2: rule book twenty five percent every year. I'm sure it'll 288 00:12:14,720 --> 00:12:18,760 Speaker 2: eventually play off our payoff. I had a question from 289 00:12:19,040 --> 00:12:22,360 Speaker 2: Bryce the Late Kick Extra podcast, As I said, we 290 00:12:22,400 --> 00:12:25,160 Speaker 2: record every Tuesday and Thursday and it's all Q and A. 291 00:12:26,440 --> 00:12:29,040 Speaker 2: So Bryce submits a question for the Late Kick Extra podcast. 292 00:12:29,040 --> 00:12:31,120 Speaker 2: But I said, let's not wait, let's do it right now, 293 00:12:31,440 --> 00:12:33,680 Speaker 2: and Bryce wanted to ask about the Big twelve on 294 00:12:33,720 --> 00:12:34,240 Speaker 2: the PAC twelve. 295 00:12:34,320 --> 00:12:35,320 Speaker 1: You can think along with me. 296 00:12:35,360 --> 00:12:38,079 Speaker 2: I'm going to do a good old fashioned countdown, no hesitation, 297 00:12:38,240 --> 00:12:39,880 Speaker 2: answer out loud, and then we'll go into it. 298 00:12:40,200 --> 00:12:41,360 Speaker 1: Three two one. 299 00:12:41,600 --> 00:12:44,319 Speaker 2: Who do you think needs a national championship in a 300 00:12:44,360 --> 00:12:46,680 Speaker 2: worse way right now? The Big twelve or the PAC twelve. 301 00:12:47,440 --> 00:12:49,760 Speaker 2: My answer is the PAC twelve. I ran a poll 302 00:12:49,800 --> 00:12:52,320 Speaker 2: on Twitter today. This thing was oh like sixty five 303 00:12:52,440 --> 00:12:55,199 Speaker 2: thirty five. I would say most of you leaned PAC twelve. 304 00:12:55,400 --> 00:12:58,800 Speaker 2: I had PAC twelve zero hesitation. And I'll tell you 305 00:12:58,880 --> 00:13:01,760 Speaker 2: it's the same thing I think right now that saves 306 00:13:01,800 --> 00:13:06,560 Speaker 2: the ACC. See, the ACC should have a severe image 307 00:13:06,559 --> 00:13:09,719 Speaker 2: problem across college football. The conference as a whole has 308 00:13:09,760 --> 00:13:13,480 Speaker 2: been inexcusably terrible. Really when you talk about the direct 309 00:13:13,480 --> 00:13:16,440 Speaker 2: access to big media markets, the direct access to really 310 00:13:16,480 --> 00:13:20,319 Speaker 2: really good recruiting pipelines, especially in relation to some of 311 00:13:20,360 --> 00:13:22,320 Speaker 2: their brethren in the Big twelve and in the PAC twelve. 312 00:13:23,080 --> 00:13:25,880 Speaker 2: But you haven't heard a ton of widespread criticism about 313 00:13:25,880 --> 00:13:29,480 Speaker 2: the ACC and why is that? Well, that tiger paw, 314 00:13:29,600 --> 00:13:33,840 Speaker 2: that Orange Tiger pauw. That's why, because Clemson has, for 315 00:13:33,920 --> 00:13:36,240 Speaker 2: better or for worse when it comes to perception, they 316 00:13:36,240 --> 00:13:40,040 Speaker 2: have masked a lot of the inferiority that really exists, 317 00:13:40,040 --> 00:13:43,680 Speaker 2: and the rest has existed in the rest of the ACC. Again, 318 00:13:43,800 --> 00:13:46,559 Speaker 2: fair or not, the vast majority of the college football 319 00:13:46,600 --> 00:13:49,480 Speaker 2: public judges a conference by the top. That's why the 320 00:13:49,520 --> 00:13:51,959 Speaker 2: SEC has no problem. The Big Ten has no problem 321 00:13:52,000 --> 00:13:54,960 Speaker 2: because they've got Ohio State. The ACC has had no 322 00:13:55,040 --> 00:13:58,360 Speaker 2: problem because they've had Clemson. I would also say the 323 00:13:58,360 --> 00:14:02,080 Speaker 2: Big twelve has been able to avoid this spotlight for 324 00:14:02,120 --> 00:14:04,640 Speaker 2: the wrong reasons because they've got Oklahoma. 325 00:14:04,720 --> 00:14:06,840 Speaker 1: But the Pac twelve doesn't have that. Who's the alpha 326 00:14:06,840 --> 00:14:08,720 Speaker 1: dog in the Pac twelve? Who's it been? 327 00:14:09,160 --> 00:14:11,760 Speaker 2: The answer probably right now is Oregon. But what has 328 00:14:11,800 --> 00:14:14,280 Speaker 2: Oregon really done relative to a lot of these other programs. 329 00:14:14,320 --> 00:14:17,120 Speaker 2: I mean, Oklahoma is a perennial contender at the very 330 00:14:17,200 --> 00:14:19,640 Speaker 2: least to make the playoff. The Pac twelve. We don't 331 00:14:19,680 --> 00:14:21,960 Speaker 2: even ask about one team. We just ask as a whole, 332 00:14:22,400 --> 00:14:23,680 Speaker 2: anyone going to be able to make it? If you're 333 00:14:23,680 --> 00:14:26,880 Speaker 2: watching it on YouTube right now. Jesse's throwing up the 334 00:14:27,040 --> 00:14:29,560 Speaker 2: entire history of the college football Playoff for the PAC twelve, 335 00:14:29,560 --> 00:14:31,400 Speaker 2: and that is from twenty fourteen to now. 336 00:14:31,600 --> 00:14:32,040 Speaker 1: Oregon. 337 00:14:32,080 --> 00:14:33,960 Speaker 2: I think a lot of people almost forget Oregon played 338 00:14:33,960 --> 00:14:36,600 Speaker 2: for a national championship that first year. I think it 339 00:14:36,680 --> 00:14:39,840 Speaker 2: was yeah, and they lost to Ohio State pretty convincingly. 340 00:14:39,920 --> 00:14:44,400 Speaker 2: But you had Washington in twenty sixteen against Alabama. 341 00:14:44,600 --> 00:14:47,960 Speaker 1: They lost and that was it. That's all she wrote. 342 00:14:48,160 --> 00:14:50,640 Speaker 1: So who is it? Nobody is the answer in the 343 00:14:50,640 --> 00:14:51,080 Speaker 1: PAC twelve. 344 00:14:51,080 --> 00:14:53,480 Speaker 2: That's why there is this big identity crisis out there, 345 00:14:53,640 --> 00:14:58,200 Speaker 2: especially relative to these other conferences. Oklahoma contender every year. 346 00:14:58,240 --> 00:15:00,240 Speaker 2: And I also think in the back of people's mind, 347 00:15:00,640 --> 00:15:02,800 Speaker 2: not only do you think of Texas, you got Iowa 348 00:15:02,840 --> 00:15:05,320 Speaker 2: State there. Iowa State has been very good for several years, 349 00:15:05,480 --> 00:15:08,160 Speaker 2: but the Texas card is always there because even though 350 00:15:08,320 --> 00:15:12,720 Speaker 2: they have massively underachieved for several years now. Everyone knows 351 00:15:13,200 --> 00:15:16,600 Speaker 2: what the recruiting rankings say, and the recruiting rankings are 352 00:15:16,600 --> 00:15:16,880 Speaker 2: not the. 353 00:15:16,880 --> 00:15:17,440 Speaker 1: End all be all. 354 00:15:17,440 --> 00:15:19,880 Speaker 2: But what I mean by that is, like Director Emeritus 355 00:15:19,920 --> 00:15:22,360 Speaker 2: Colin and I were talking like thirty minutes ago, the 356 00:15:22,440 --> 00:15:24,280 Speaker 2: thing about Texas that's always in the back of your 357 00:15:24,320 --> 00:15:27,320 Speaker 2: mind is you may not expect them to do anything, 358 00:15:27,720 --> 00:15:29,760 Speaker 2: but you know, like whatever. 359 00:15:29,480 --> 00:15:31,760 Speaker 1: That thing is where a team just pops. 360 00:15:32,680 --> 00:15:35,480 Speaker 2: Some teams out there, if they pop their maximum potentials 361 00:15:35,480 --> 00:15:38,400 Speaker 2: eight and four. If Texas ever pops, and they hadn't 362 00:15:38,440 --> 00:15:40,440 Speaker 2: in a while, but if they ever pop, you know, 363 00:15:40,680 --> 00:15:43,280 Speaker 2: based on the sheer volume of talent in their locker room, 364 00:15:43,400 --> 00:15:45,240 Speaker 2: they're capable of doing a lot more than just eight 365 00:15:45,240 --> 00:15:47,880 Speaker 2: and four. Not to mention that Longhorn brand is iconic 366 00:15:47,920 --> 00:15:50,720 Speaker 2: and means a whole lot around college football, and that 367 00:15:50,760 --> 00:15:53,080 Speaker 2: brand equity means a whole lot, and you again. 368 00:15:52,840 --> 00:15:55,440 Speaker 1: Do not have that on the West coast right now. 369 00:15:55,840 --> 00:15:59,200 Speaker 2: So the Big twelve does not have that Larry Scott 370 00:15:59,440 --> 00:16:00,800 Speaker 2: Packed twelve stench on it. 371 00:16:01,120 --> 00:16:03,120 Speaker 1: The PAC twelve obviously does. Now. 372 00:16:03,120 --> 00:16:05,920 Speaker 2: There were even rumors today and I'm not gonna repeat 373 00:16:05,920 --> 00:16:07,960 Speaker 2: them because I can't back them up about who may 374 00:16:08,040 --> 00:16:10,680 Speaker 2: take over as PAC twelve commissioner out there. But whoever 375 00:16:10,760 --> 00:16:14,000 Speaker 2: takes over, they're gonna be proposals thrown at that person 376 00:16:14,040 --> 00:16:16,680 Speaker 2: all over the place about how to rectify and repair 377 00:16:16,720 --> 00:16:18,760 Speaker 2: the PAC twelve's image. And it's gonna have a lot 378 00:16:18,760 --> 00:16:21,080 Speaker 2: to do with how the conference is marketed, and it's 379 00:16:21,080 --> 00:16:23,040 Speaker 2: going to have a lot to do with where we play. 380 00:16:22,920 --> 00:16:24,280 Speaker 1: Our conference championship game. 381 00:16:24,360 --> 00:16:26,760 Speaker 2: Of course, the media deals are going to be paramount, 382 00:16:27,160 --> 00:16:29,440 Speaker 2: but none of that solves anything if you don't play 383 00:16:29,440 --> 00:16:32,040 Speaker 2: good football. Really, at the end of the day, that's 384 00:16:32,040 --> 00:16:35,080 Speaker 2: what it comes down to. That's what began this slide 385 00:16:35,080 --> 00:16:38,080 Speaker 2: into mediocrity or less. And that's the only thing that's 386 00:16:38,080 --> 00:16:41,640 Speaker 2: really gonna save it. Because you can execute the most 387 00:16:41,760 --> 00:16:45,280 Speaker 2: shrewd media deals known to man. You could have the 388 00:16:45,320 --> 00:16:48,440 Speaker 2: best person or group of people in the commissioner seats 389 00:16:48,440 --> 00:16:50,440 Speaker 2: and the president's seats out there and known to man. 390 00:16:50,680 --> 00:16:53,600 Speaker 2: None of this makes up for inferior product on the field, 391 00:16:53,960 --> 00:16:55,800 Speaker 2: None of it. You gotta have it a lot of 392 00:16:55,840 --> 00:16:58,400 Speaker 2: those others. There are variables. This is a constant, it's 393 00:16:58,400 --> 00:17:00,440 Speaker 2: a requirement. You got to have better football. If Clay 394 00:17:00,480 --> 00:17:02,360 Speaker 2: Helton's not the guy at USC you gotta go find 395 00:17:02,400 --> 00:17:05,040 Speaker 2: the guy. Mario Cristobal and what he's doing at Oregon 396 00:17:05,119 --> 00:17:07,919 Speaker 2: needs to be duplicated elsewhere. Jimmy Lake, Let's fingers crossed. 397 00:17:08,240 --> 00:17:10,480 Speaker 2: It pays off at Washington, but you got to get 398 00:17:10,520 --> 00:17:13,320 Speaker 2: your football product in order and then magically, and this 399 00:17:13,359 --> 00:17:15,520 Speaker 2: is going to shock some people, but magically it will 400 00:17:15,560 --> 00:17:17,840 Speaker 2: increase the value of the product. In long term, you'll 401 00:17:17,880 --> 00:17:20,720 Speaker 2: be able to acquire proper media rights because the thing 402 00:17:20,760 --> 00:17:25,040 Speaker 2: about when people watch your program is other networks take 403 00:17:25,119 --> 00:17:27,040 Speaker 2: notice and they tend to want to invest in that. 404 00:17:27,800 --> 00:17:30,800 Speaker 1: There has been a time in the very recent. 405 00:17:30,640 --> 00:17:35,240 Speaker 2: Past that the PAC twelve actively sought a media partner 406 00:17:35,400 --> 00:17:38,040 Speaker 2: and couldn't find one. Before I move on, let me 407 00:17:38,080 --> 00:17:39,960 Speaker 2: explain what I just said. It doesn't take long, like 408 00:17:40,000 --> 00:17:40,840 Speaker 2: fifteen seconds. 409 00:17:41,080 --> 00:17:44,280 Speaker 1: The PAC twelve they have the PAC twelve network, and 410 00:17:44,320 --> 00:17:47,159 Speaker 1: they lobbed themselves publicly out there because they own it. 411 00:17:47,200 --> 00:17:47,359 Speaker 1: You know. 412 00:17:47,400 --> 00:17:51,040 Speaker 2: They didn't partner with anyone that was out of necessity people, 413 00:17:51,119 --> 00:17:51,960 Speaker 2: not choice. 414 00:17:52,200 --> 00:17:53,760 Speaker 1: They lobbied ESPN. 415 00:17:54,320 --> 00:17:58,080 Speaker 2: ESPN essentially looked, and not just the ESPN, other networks too. 416 00:17:58,320 --> 00:18:00,400 Speaker 2: They looked, this is me looking out west and they 417 00:18:00,440 --> 00:18:05,159 Speaker 2: said no thanks, and that was it. That's why the 418 00:18:05,160 --> 00:18:08,959 Speaker 2: PAC twelve is an independently run network in some ways 419 00:18:09,359 --> 00:18:13,240 Speaker 2: pretty and effectively run right up to where the network 420 00:18:13,320 --> 00:18:16,640 Speaker 2: was located geographically. So I think the PAC twelve needs 421 00:18:16,680 --> 00:18:21,400 Speaker 2: this thing a lot more than the Big twelve. Ohio 422 00:18:21,440 --> 00:18:23,160 Speaker 2: State is what I want to talk about next. As 423 00:18:23,160 --> 00:18:26,840 Speaker 2: we roll on, here tonight, I want to ask you something. 424 00:18:26,960 --> 00:18:28,800 Speaker 2: How big a gap do you think there is between 425 00:18:28,800 --> 00:18:32,200 Speaker 2: Ohio State and Alabama. I think the common answer, well, 426 00:18:32,240 --> 00:18:34,280 Speaker 2: not common. I think a frequent answer I would get 427 00:18:34,320 --> 00:18:36,600 Speaker 2: on this is well, they just played, so let's go 428 00:18:36,640 --> 00:18:39,359 Speaker 2: to the scoreboard. Fifty two to twenty four. Well, it 429 00:18:39,400 --> 00:18:42,400 Speaker 2: seems to me like the gap is right at four touchdowns. Well, 430 00:18:42,480 --> 00:18:45,560 Speaker 2: that is to me ridiculous using that logic. Let me 431 00:18:45,600 --> 00:18:48,399 Speaker 2: tell you how ridiculous it is. Using that logic, that 432 00:18:48,400 --> 00:18:51,600 Speaker 2: would mean there was also a thirteen point gap between 433 00:18:51,640 --> 00:18:54,080 Speaker 2: Old Miss and Ohio State last year in favor of 434 00:18:54,080 --> 00:18:56,520 Speaker 2: Old Miss. Because Old Miss played Bama they only lost 435 00:18:56,520 --> 00:18:59,640 Speaker 2: by fifteen. So if we're doing the whole transitive property 436 00:19:00,240 --> 00:19:03,280 Speaker 2: final score tells everything about the status of a program deal, 437 00:19:03,320 --> 00:19:05,320 Speaker 2: then that means the Old Miss is greater than Ohio State. 438 00:19:05,320 --> 00:19:07,919 Speaker 1: And I don't think anyone thinks that. So what do 439 00:19:07,960 --> 00:19:08,920 Speaker 1: we really think here? 440 00:19:09,000 --> 00:19:10,320 Speaker 2: So I'm gonna tell you my thoughts, but I want 441 00:19:10,359 --> 00:19:11,600 Speaker 2: to get your thoughts too, so you can give him 442 00:19:11,600 --> 00:19:14,159 Speaker 2: in the comment section wherever you're listening. I want to 443 00:19:14,160 --> 00:19:16,520 Speaker 2: know how big the gap actually is. I was over 444 00:19:16,560 --> 00:19:18,800 Speaker 2: on the Athletic reading some of Bill Landis's stuff. He 445 00:19:18,840 --> 00:19:21,080 Speaker 2: covers Ohio State for the athletic and he was doing 446 00:19:21,080 --> 00:19:23,840 Speaker 2: a state of the program for the Buckeyes, and I 447 00:19:24,200 --> 00:19:27,440 Speaker 2: was really caught and it really caught my attention about 448 00:19:27,440 --> 00:19:30,879 Speaker 2: one of his main observations. One of his main observations was, 449 00:19:31,280 --> 00:19:33,159 Speaker 2: you know, Ryan Day has gone through this. 450 00:19:33,040 --> 00:19:36,560 Speaker 1: Off season, excuse me x season, and he could have 451 00:19:36,560 --> 00:19:37,479 Speaker 1: made a lot of changes. 452 00:19:38,359 --> 00:19:41,320 Speaker 2: Ryan Day, coming off a national championship lost to the 453 00:19:41,359 --> 00:19:44,760 Speaker 2: degree they had against Alabama, or someone in his position 454 00:19:45,280 --> 00:19:47,880 Speaker 2: may be inclined to make major changes because the knee 455 00:19:47,920 --> 00:19:50,159 Speaker 2: jerk reaction is we're not close to the team we 456 00:19:50,200 --> 00:19:52,440 Speaker 2: got to beat because the scoreboard says so fifty two 457 00:19:52,480 --> 00:19:54,840 Speaker 2: to twenty four. My goodness, that's four touchdowns. So we 458 00:19:54,920 --> 00:19:56,479 Speaker 2: got to make wholesale changes. 459 00:19:56,640 --> 00:19:57,040 Speaker 1: We got to. 460 00:19:57,040 --> 00:19:59,359 Speaker 2: Overturn the staff. Ryan Day didn't do that. We got 461 00:19:59,400 --> 00:20:00,720 Speaker 2: to go get a quarter back. We can't be starting 462 00:20:00,720 --> 00:20:02,240 Speaker 2: a true freshman next year. We got to go to 463 00:20:02,240 --> 00:20:04,560 Speaker 2: the portal. Ryan Day didn't do that. In fact, we 464 00:20:04,680 --> 00:20:07,000 Speaker 2: got to go attack the transfer portal at several positions. 465 00:20:07,200 --> 00:20:09,439 Speaker 2: Ryan Day did not do that. Well. We certainly have 466 00:20:09,480 --> 00:20:11,359 Speaker 2: to overhaul philosophy, right, I mean, we got to get 467 00:20:11,400 --> 00:20:12,680 Speaker 2: a new defense, new offense in here. 468 00:20:12,800 --> 00:20:13,760 Speaker 1: He didn't do any of that. 469 00:20:14,080 --> 00:20:17,480 Speaker 2: Ryan Day largely sat there and said, I think we're 470 00:20:17,560 --> 00:20:18,440 Speaker 2: pretty much where we. 471 00:20:18,400 --> 00:20:20,760 Speaker 1: Need to be, with maybe some minor tweaks needed here 472 00:20:20,760 --> 00:20:22,280 Speaker 1: and there. And he's right. 473 00:20:22,840 --> 00:20:25,239 Speaker 2: If that's what Ryan Day's thinking and his actions are 474 00:20:25,240 --> 00:20:27,360 Speaker 2: what I'm using to judge this, I think he's right. 475 00:20:27,560 --> 00:20:29,960 Speaker 2: Ohio State's there. There is no big gap. To me, 476 00:20:30,040 --> 00:20:33,000 Speaker 2: there is no large gap. There was on that given 477 00:20:33,119 --> 00:20:35,840 Speaker 2: night in that given game. That's what the final score dictated. 478 00:20:35,880 --> 00:20:38,959 Speaker 2: But really the difference here is not a grand canyon. 479 00:20:39,240 --> 00:20:42,600 Speaker 2: The difference is just degrees, small degrees that can make 480 00:20:42,600 --> 00:20:45,200 Speaker 2: a big difference. Obviously over the span of a season. 481 00:20:46,000 --> 00:20:48,800 Speaker 2: Ryan Day knows he's there. Ryan Day knows there are 482 00:20:48,800 --> 00:20:52,040 Speaker 2: just fractions and degrees separating his program from even the 483 00:20:52,080 --> 00:20:54,840 Speaker 2: Alabamas of the world. I was reading the other day actually, 484 00:20:54,920 --> 00:20:57,439 Speaker 2: and it applies very well here. It's just kind of morbid. 485 00:20:58,080 --> 00:21:00,480 Speaker 2: In nineteen seventy nine, there was a sight seeing expedition 486 00:21:01,520 --> 00:21:03,360 Speaker 2: a big commercial airliner. 487 00:21:03,400 --> 00:21:04,920 Speaker 1: They rented it. I don't know who they were. 488 00:21:05,040 --> 00:21:07,280 Speaker 2: They were well off, and they packed that thing with 489 00:21:07,320 --> 00:21:09,320 Speaker 2: over two hundred and fifty people. They flew from New 490 00:21:09,400 --> 00:21:13,280 Speaker 2: Zealand to Antarctica. They were just gonna fly over and 491 00:21:13,280 --> 00:21:15,400 Speaker 2: they were gonna check it out. Look, there's a polar bear. 492 00:21:15,600 --> 00:21:16,240 Speaker 2: Snap snap. 493 00:21:17,119 --> 00:21:18,000 Speaker 1: And instead they. 494 00:21:17,920 --> 00:21:20,280 Speaker 2: Crashed into the side of a volcano and everyone got killed. 495 00:21:20,320 --> 00:21:22,280 Speaker 2: I told you this was morbid. Those are while bag 496 00:21:22,280 --> 00:21:23,520 Speaker 2: So it's okay to talk about it now. 497 00:21:25,200 --> 00:21:25,880 Speaker 1: What happened? 498 00:21:26,359 --> 00:21:30,160 Speaker 2: That was the immediate question, how could an aviation disaster 499 00:21:30,320 --> 00:21:31,680 Speaker 2: of this magnitude occur? 500 00:21:32,440 --> 00:21:33,920 Speaker 1: So everyone started diving in. 501 00:21:33,920 --> 00:21:37,600 Speaker 2: Investigations start happening, and everyone asks, all right, where is 502 00:21:37,680 --> 00:21:42,000 Speaker 2: the big mechanical error, or where's the equipment malfunction or failure, 503 00:21:42,160 --> 00:21:45,240 Speaker 2: or where's the massive amount of human error that had 504 00:21:45,280 --> 00:21:49,159 Speaker 2: to have occurred for an aviation disaster of this magnitude 505 00:21:49,160 --> 00:21:51,400 Speaker 2: to take place. And they kept looking and they didn't 506 00:21:51,440 --> 00:21:53,320 Speaker 2: find one. And then they looked some more and they 507 00:21:53,320 --> 00:21:55,720 Speaker 2: didn't find one. Well, here was the problem. They were 508 00:21:55,720 --> 00:21:59,600 Speaker 2: looking for something that was this bright, blinking red light. 509 00:21:59,760 --> 00:22:03,760 Speaker 2: And actually what they were looking for were degrees, two 510 00:22:03,880 --> 00:22:08,000 Speaker 2: of them, not in temperature, but in navigation terms, two degrees. 511 00:22:08,240 --> 00:22:10,280 Speaker 2: And what they ended up finding out at the conclusion 512 00:22:10,320 --> 00:22:13,800 Speaker 2: of their report is everything was fine, nothing wrong with 513 00:22:13,840 --> 00:22:17,240 Speaker 2: the plane. The only malfunction was that when they were 514 00:22:17,280 --> 00:22:21,640 Speaker 2: plotting their navigation points, they miscalculated by two degrees. Now, 515 00:22:21,640 --> 00:22:23,760 Speaker 2: two degrees is not a whole lot. I ran the numbers. 516 00:22:23,920 --> 00:22:25,560 Speaker 2: I didn't even have stats and info bother with this. 517 00:22:25,640 --> 00:22:27,159 Speaker 2: I ran the numbers. If you and I were standing 518 00:22:27,200 --> 00:22:29,239 Speaker 2: on a goal line on a football field, and we 519 00:22:29,280 --> 00:22:30,919 Speaker 2: walked to the other end of the field, so one 520 00:22:30,960 --> 00:22:33,000 Speaker 2: hundred yards in other words, and I took a two 521 00:22:33,000 --> 00:22:34,639 Speaker 2: degree different angle than you when we got to that 522 00:22:34,720 --> 00:22:36,520 Speaker 2: other goal line, do you know how. 523 00:22:36,440 --> 00:22:37,199 Speaker 1: Far apart we'd be? 524 00:22:37,359 --> 00:22:39,840 Speaker 2: Would be about ten and a half to eleven feet apart. 525 00:22:39,880 --> 00:22:42,040 Speaker 2: I could flick a paper football further than that. So 526 00:22:42,119 --> 00:22:44,440 Speaker 2: you think two degrees not a big deal. Well, when 527 00:22:44,440 --> 00:22:47,679 Speaker 2: you fly from New Zealand to Antarctica, it's the difference 528 00:22:47,720 --> 00:22:50,160 Speaker 2: in twenty eight miles, and it's the difference between being 529 00:22:50,160 --> 00:22:53,560 Speaker 2: able to look at some nice ice glaciers versus how 530 00:22:53,600 --> 00:22:56,920 Speaker 2: that story ended. So to draw it to much less 531 00:22:56,960 --> 00:23:00,600 Speaker 2: consequential matters, let me clearly state that this being called football, 532 00:23:00,960 --> 00:23:02,840 Speaker 2: you can either look at the end of Ohio State 533 00:23:02,920 --> 00:23:05,320 Speaker 2: season and you can say that was terrible. 534 00:23:05,480 --> 00:23:07,080 Speaker 1: They got blown out. Oh we got to blow this 535 00:23:07,119 --> 00:23:07,600 Speaker 1: whole thing up. 536 00:23:07,600 --> 00:23:10,440 Speaker 2: We got to start over, or you can realize there 537 00:23:10,440 --> 00:23:12,680 Speaker 2: aren't really big changes that have to be made here. 538 00:23:12,800 --> 00:23:15,600 Speaker 2: The rosters there, the coaching staff's there, we've got the 539 00:23:15,600 --> 00:23:18,720 Speaker 2: head coach, We've got everything we need. Program, energy is right, 540 00:23:18,760 --> 00:23:23,280 Speaker 2: culture is right. Four touchdowns. That's what the scoreboard says. Well, I, 541 00:23:23,480 --> 00:23:27,720 Speaker 2: being Ryan Day, say it's just incremental fractions here and there. 542 00:23:28,119 --> 00:23:29,919 Speaker 2: You may, for example, look at it and say, oh, 543 00:23:29,920 --> 00:23:32,119 Speaker 2: we got to blow up the offense and start again entirely. 544 00:23:32,400 --> 00:23:33,880 Speaker 2: He may look at it and say, all right, where 545 00:23:33,920 --> 00:23:36,080 Speaker 2: are the tweaks? And this is the key, because even 546 00:23:36,119 --> 00:23:38,040 Speaker 2: if there is a minor gap, you still got to 547 00:23:38,080 --> 00:23:40,800 Speaker 2: know where are the small areas that we can make 548 00:23:40,840 --> 00:23:44,480 Speaker 2: up stuff in. But asking around to coaches, the actual 549 00:23:44,720 --> 00:23:46,760 Speaker 2: changes that are made sound a lot more like this. 550 00:23:47,720 --> 00:23:50,600 Speaker 2: You may look at your defensive backs and you may 551 00:23:50,720 --> 00:23:53,600 Speaker 2: tie into your strength and conditioning program a twenty two 552 00:23:53,720 --> 00:23:58,200 Speaker 2: percent increased workload on hip flexers and quads based on 553 00:23:58,240 --> 00:24:00,679 Speaker 2: some of the data and feedback in GPS information that 554 00:24:00,760 --> 00:24:03,760 Speaker 2: you get. That's the kind of actual change that's made here. 555 00:24:03,880 --> 00:24:06,320 Speaker 2: You may look at your defensive lineman and you may 556 00:24:06,560 --> 00:24:10,679 Speaker 2: cut carb count and calorikin count by eight percent to 557 00:24:10,720 --> 00:24:12,800 Speaker 2: ten percent. Here and there, and you think that that's 558 00:24:12,840 --> 00:24:15,320 Speaker 2: going to manifest itself on the field of play, you 559 00:24:15,400 --> 00:24:19,480 Speaker 2: may change your running back rooms average sleep time from 560 00:24:19,560 --> 00:24:22,200 Speaker 2: seven hours fifty five minutes a night to eight hours 561 00:24:22,240 --> 00:24:25,000 Speaker 2: twelve minutes because the data said so these are little 562 00:24:25,040 --> 00:24:29,560 Speaker 2: nothing changes. These are fractions of degrees of change that cumulatively, 563 00:24:29,720 --> 00:24:32,560 Speaker 2: when added up over the course of a season, could 564 00:24:32,600 --> 00:24:34,400 Speaker 2: actually pay off. Could be the difference in a win 565 00:24:34,520 --> 00:24:35,080 Speaker 2: and a loss. 566 00:24:35,119 --> 00:24:35,520 Speaker 1: You never know. 567 00:24:35,600 --> 00:24:38,280 Speaker 2: It's hard to quantify that stuff, but you trust your process. 568 00:24:38,320 --> 00:24:42,440 Speaker 2: But I would argue this, This is going to sound crazy, 569 00:24:42,600 --> 00:24:44,679 Speaker 2: but I think it may end up coming to fruition 570 00:24:44,840 --> 00:24:47,560 Speaker 2: that this could be the easiest coaching job that Ryan 571 00:24:47,640 --> 00:24:50,840 Speaker 2: Day's ever had. The twenty twenty one college football season 572 00:24:51,240 --> 00:24:54,119 Speaker 2: could end up being the easiest coaching job for the 573 00:24:54,160 --> 00:24:56,719 Speaker 2: rest of Ryan Day's career. I'm not saying it's going 574 00:24:56,800 --> 00:24:59,760 Speaker 2: to be easy. I'm saying relative to what could come 575 00:25:00,119 --> 00:25:02,080 Speaker 2: if they end up winning at all, it could because 576 00:25:02,119 --> 00:25:04,919 Speaker 2: think about where Ohio State is right now. He doesn't 577 00:25:04,960 --> 00:25:07,480 Speaker 2: have to worry about any kind of hunger, any kind 578 00:25:07,520 --> 00:25:10,400 Speaker 2: of motivation. He doesn't have to worry about anyone's mentality 579 00:25:10,400 --> 00:25:12,040 Speaker 2: and where they are from the neck up when they 580 00:25:12,080 --> 00:25:15,439 Speaker 2: show up to work in the morning, players and coaches alike. 581 00:25:16,160 --> 00:25:18,879 Speaker 2: There is no complacency. There's not even a whiff or 582 00:25:18,880 --> 00:25:22,000 Speaker 2: a thread of it. There is no what can Ohio 583 00:25:22,119 --> 00:25:24,160 Speaker 2: State do for me? In that locker room, it's all 584 00:25:24,160 --> 00:25:26,560 Speaker 2: what can I do for Ohio State? Because again, that 585 00:25:26,680 --> 00:25:29,359 Speaker 2: selfishness and complacency, it's never even had a chance to 586 00:25:29,400 --> 00:25:32,120 Speaker 2: set in. Yet his staff is still intact, and he's 587 00:25:32,160 --> 00:25:34,960 Speaker 2: got a good staff there, and he's got a roster 588 00:25:35,040 --> 00:25:38,080 Speaker 2: full of studs. There's no talent disadvantage. He's got all 589 00:25:38,119 --> 00:25:41,280 Speaker 2: the ingredients for a championship season. So whether they win 590 00:25:41,320 --> 00:25:44,080 Speaker 2: it or not, that's a whole nother story. Ryan Day 591 00:25:44,480 --> 00:25:48,119 Speaker 2: has got Relative to what the challenges would be if 592 00:25:48,119 --> 00:25:50,840 Speaker 2: he wins one, that right there is about as ready 593 00:25:50,840 --> 00:25:53,320 Speaker 2: made a coaching situation as any head coach could ever 594 00:25:53,359 --> 00:25:55,440 Speaker 2: hope to walk into. So I don't think there's any 595 00:25:55,520 --> 00:25:57,760 Speaker 2: kind of gap. If the gap is there, it's minuscule. 596 00:25:57,840 --> 00:26:00,880 Speaker 2: And for all we know, the day of the NFL Draft, 597 00:26:01,359 --> 00:26:04,000 Speaker 2: maybe Ohio State passed Alabama. Maybe Ohio State right now 598 00:26:04,040 --> 00:26:05,600 Speaker 2: is the best team in the country. We won't know 599 00:26:05,640 --> 00:26:07,399 Speaker 2: that yet until the end of the year or at 600 00:26:07,400 --> 00:26:09,440 Speaker 2: the very least the beginning of the year. But I 601 00:26:09,480 --> 00:26:11,959 Speaker 2: don't think there's a gap at all. I don't talk 602 00:26:12,000 --> 00:26:14,159 Speaker 2: about a whole lot of polls on the show, with 603 00:26:14,200 --> 00:26:17,760 Speaker 2: one notable exception that we will debut later this fall. 604 00:26:17,800 --> 00:26:18,640 Speaker 1: But I was. 605 00:26:18,640 --> 00:26:21,680 Speaker 2: Involved in the twenty four to seven Sports National Experts 606 00:26:21,720 --> 00:26:24,040 Speaker 2: Can you believe that label they choose to put on 607 00:26:24,119 --> 00:26:27,200 Speaker 2: me National Experts? And we did the post spring Top 608 00:26:27,240 --> 00:26:29,520 Speaker 2: twenty five, which is available right now on the front 609 00:26:29,560 --> 00:26:31,879 Speaker 2: page of twenty four to seven sports dot Com. And 610 00:26:31,920 --> 00:26:34,480 Speaker 2: so I wanted to go through this because I had 611 00:26:34,520 --> 00:26:37,199 Speaker 2: some differences of opinion, at least when it came to 612 00:26:37,240 --> 00:26:40,240 Speaker 2: what the collective opinion was on the top twenty five. 613 00:26:40,520 --> 00:26:43,000 Speaker 1: Alabama at the top, that's not a shocker. 614 00:26:43,119 --> 00:26:45,639 Speaker 2: Oklahoma, I think number two maybe if you have been 615 00:26:45,680 --> 00:26:46,280 Speaker 2: tuned out. 616 00:26:46,200 --> 00:26:48,680 Speaker 1: Maybe a little bit of a surprise. But I agree with. 617 00:26:48,720 --> 00:26:51,000 Speaker 2: Our national guys, and this is kind of the average 618 00:26:51,000 --> 00:26:53,200 Speaker 2: of how we all voted. Oklahoma sitting there at number two. 619 00:26:53,200 --> 00:26:56,000 Speaker 2: Clumbs in Ohio state, Georgia three, four five. Think I 620 00:26:56,000 --> 00:26:58,360 Speaker 2: had Georgia and clums and flip, no big deal there 621 00:26:58,920 --> 00:27:01,639 Speaker 2: my Iowa state cyclone at number six. Now the question 622 00:27:01,800 --> 00:27:04,480 Speaker 2: is is our head pressed against the ceiling or can 623 00:27:04,520 --> 00:27:07,600 Speaker 2: we break through that ceiling? And can Matt Campbell lead 624 00:27:07,680 --> 00:27:10,359 Speaker 2: us to the Promised Land this year? And by us 625 00:27:10,480 --> 00:27:12,879 Speaker 2: I just mean the team no affiliation of course, North 626 00:27:12,880 --> 00:27:15,240 Speaker 2: Carolina just creeping around there inside the top ten A 627 00:27:15,320 --> 00:27:17,720 Speaker 2: and m Oregon Notre Dame rounds out the top ten. 628 00:27:17,920 --> 00:27:20,600 Speaker 2: So again, I think Jesse has a graphic so he 629 00:27:20,600 --> 00:27:22,359 Speaker 2: can just roll through him here, but I wanted to 630 00:27:22,400 --> 00:27:25,560 Speaker 2: point some things out again. These were released today, just 631 00:27:25,560 --> 00:27:27,520 Speaker 2: a few hours ago, so if you want to read 632 00:27:27,560 --> 00:27:30,960 Speaker 2: it in very very slow motion in your own speed, 633 00:27:31,000 --> 00:27:32,959 Speaker 2: you can go to twenty four to seven sports dot com. 634 00:27:33,760 --> 00:27:37,840 Speaker 2: Florida was number twelve at least when it came to 635 00:27:38,160 --> 00:27:41,239 Speaker 2: the cumulative, I had Florida at number ten. Now I 636 00:27:41,240 --> 00:27:42,880 Speaker 2: can readily admit to you they may be a little 637 00:27:42,960 --> 00:27:45,000 Speaker 2: high there. I just want to know this. Wherever you 638 00:27:45,080 --> 00:27:47,320 Speaker 2: rank Florida, you can do your own poll. Are we 639 00:27:47,440 --> 00:27:49,679 Speaker 2: remembering the end of the twenty twenty season or do 640 00:27:49,720 --> 00:27:52,920 Speaker 2: we just honestly believe this is what Florida is going 641 00:27:52,920 --> 00:27:54,679 Speaker 2: to be in the twenty twenty one season, or at 642 00:27:54,800 --> 00:27:57,120 Speaker 2: least this is where they start. And I was willing 643 00:27:57,160 --> 00:27:58,720 Speaker 2: to give him a little bit of benefit of doubt. 644 00:27:58,720 --> 00:28:00,760 Speaker 2: A lot of that just has to do with cumulative 645 00:28:00,800 --> 00:28:02,680 Speaker 2: talent on a roster. So I've got them at ten, 646 00:28:02,720 --> 00:28:04,080 Speaker 2: whereas we collectively have. 647 00:28:04,080 --> 00:28:05,520 Speaker 1: Them at twelve. Oregon. 648 00:28:05,840 --> 00:28:08,280 Speaker 2: I got a little bit different story on Oregon too. 649 00:28:08,760 --> 00:28:11,080 Speaker 2: I had Oregon down at eleven. We had them as 650 00:28:11,119 --> 00:28:14,160 Speaker 2: a group inside the top ten. Same deal here, It's 651 00:28:14,160 --> 00:28:16,360 Speaker 2: not there's a big difference. I really want to hear 652 00:28:16,400 --> 00:28:19,720 Speaker 2: more about Anthony Brownett quarterback entering the summer months, and 653 00:28:19,760 --> 00:28:23,080 Speaker 2: their offensive line. It's a mild concern for me. Probably 654 00:28:23,080 --> 00:28:25,199 Speaker 2: the biggest one on that team would be offensive line. 655 00:28:25,400 --> 00:28:27,359 Speaker 2: So again, just kind of a minor difference there. But 656 00:28:27,400 --> 00:28:30,880 Speaker 2: how about we agree My own poll in our collective 657 00:28:30,880 --> 00:28:32,400 Speaker 2: poll has LSU at thirteen. 658 00:28:33,200 --> 00:28:34,320 Speaker 1: Boy, that's a lot of trust. 659 00:28:34,880 --> 00:28:38,520 Speaker 2: That's a lot of stock put into the realization and 660 00:28:38,640 --> 00:28:42,360 Speaker 2: validation of players because they got a lot of players 661 00:28:42,760 --> 00:28:45,280 Speaker 2: on their talent roster both sides, and they got a 662 00:28:45,320 --> 00:28:47,000 Speaker 2: lot of guys where you look at I've said this 663 00:28:47,040 --> 00:28:50,480 Speaker 2: several times about LSU. You look at the names, including 664 00:28:50,480 --> 00:28:52,560 Speaker 2: the quarterback room, and you say, how are they going 665 00:28:52,640 --> 00:28:54,880 Speaker 2: to be terrible with all these names again this year? Well, 666 00:28:54,920 --> 00:28:56,320 Speaker 2: the short answer is, I don't think they're going to 667 00:28:56,360 --> 00:28:59,560 Speaker 2: be terrible. I think they certainly warrant a top fifteen consideration, 668 00:29:00,160 --> 00:29:02,800 Speaker 2: But again, it's a lot of trust to put into 669 00:29:04,200 --> 00:29:05,680 Speaker 2: I don't know how you say what I'm about to 670 00:29:05,680 --> 00:29:08,640 Speaker 2: say an unproven commodity. A head coach can't be unproven 671 00:29:08,640 --> 00:29:10,560 Speaker 2: if he's won a title within the last twenty four months. 672 00:29:10,600 --> 00:29:13,320 Speaker 1: So I'll just say this version of LSU is unproven. 673 00:29:13,400 --> 00:29:14,040 Speaker 1: Let me put it like. 674 00:29:14,000 --> 00:29:17,520 Speaker 2: That Southern Cal I had lower by three spots than 675 00:29:17,560 --> 00:29:19,680 Speaker 2: our national team did. They had him fourteen. I had 676 00:29:19,720 --> 00:29:23,320 Speaker 2: him seventeen. No individual spot. I just don't think as 677 00:29:23,400 --> 00:29:26,080 Speaker 2: highly of USC at the moment. But there was one 678 00:29:26,120 --> 00:29:27,720 Speaker 2: I had ranked all the way up to twenty one 679 00:29:28,120 --> 00:29:29,959 Speaker 2: that our national team did not rank at all, and 680 00:29:30,000 --> 00:29:34,360 Speaker 2: that's Kentucky. I am significantly higher on Kentucky being a 681 00:29:34,400 --> 00:29:38,040 Speaker 2: top twenty five caliber program entering twenty twenty one. But again, 682 00:29:38,080 --> 00:29:39,800 Speaker 2: there are still a lot of moving parts to play 683 00:29:39,800 --> 00:29:42,800 Speaker 2: out with the Cats, not to mention the quarterback position 684 00:29:43,120 --> 00:29:46,040 Speaker 2: being most among them. Will Levis if he were to 685 00:29:46,040 --> 00:29:47,600 Speaker 2: start for them, He's not even on campus. Hit he 686 00:29:47,640 --> 00:29:49,560 Speaker 2: hasn't even come in yet. And so I had some 687 00:29:49,640 --> 00:29:51,440 Speaker 2: back and forth with some folks the other day thinking 688 00:29:51,440 --> 00:29:53,920 Speaker 2: a guy like Gatewood maybe is better than will levis 689 00:29:54,000 --> 00:29:57,280 Speaker 2: better suited to take over. I'm just telling you, you 690 00:29:57,400 --> 00:29:59,760 Speaker 2: get a new offense in there. You don't get to 691 00:29:59,760 --> 00:30:02,400 Speaker 2: see the spring game. I don't really know that there 692 00:30:02,400 --> 00:30:04,680 Speaker 2: are many definitives for Kentucky football. 693 00:30:04,720 --> 00:30:07,680 Speaker 1: I just know as a whole I really like where 694 00:30:07,680 --> 00:30:07,920 Speaker 1: they are. 695 00:30:07,920 --> 00:30:09,360 Speaker 2: I like where they are now as much as I've 696 00:30:09,360 --> 00:30:11,200 Speaker 2: ever liked where they've been under Mark Stoops. 697 00:30:11,240 --> 00:30:12,840 Speaker 1: And again, I'm not telling you their top ten. 698 00:30:12,960 --> 00:30:16,640 Speaker 2: Okay, it's a little bit different that window to be 699 00:30:16,720 --> 00:30:18,560 Speaker 2: ranked inside the top twenty five. I mean this is 700 00:30:18,560 --> 00:30:20,720 Speaker 2: where the coastal Carolinas of the world were able to 701 00:30:20,760 --> 00:30:22,320 Speaker 2: hang out and rise above and beyond. 702 00:30:22,360 --> 00:30:22,840 Speaker 1: Last year. 703 00:30:23,120 --> 00:30:25,200 Speaker 2: Speaking of coastal, they had them ranked and I didn't, 704 00:30:25,880 --> 00:30:30,280 Speaker 2: but I did have Louisiana ranked, napier at Louisiana and 705 00:30:30,360 --> 00:30:33,440 Speaker 2: Luke Fickle with Cincinnati being ranked way higher in this 706 00:30:34,120 --> 00:30:36,280 Speaker 2: Think about where they are this year because a lot 707 00:30:36,360 --> 00:30:38,880 Speaker 2: of stocks been placed in their programs and their names, 708 00:30:38,920 --> 00:30:41,920 Speaker 2: and they are sky high right now on everyone's hot board. 709 00:30:42,280 --> 00:30:45,280 Speaker 2: They could long since have had major Power five jobs, 710 00:30:45,720 --> 00:30:47,440 Speaker 2: but they've got jobs that are better than a lot 711 00:30:47,440 --> 00:30:49,840 Speaker 2: of Power five jobs. Even I'll tell you that, I 712 00:30:49,920 --> 00:30:52,000 Speaker 2: wonder when we get to the end of this year, 713 00:30:52,320 --> 00:30:54,719 Speaker 2: will both of their stocks be equal to or higher 714 00:30:54,720 --> 00:30:58,160 Speaker 2: than they are right now or could one of maybe both, 715 00:30:58,240 --> 00:31:01,480 Speaker 2: but could one of them go the Jeff route. Now 716 00:31:01,600 --> 00:31:03,520 Speaker 2: Brom was at well he is at Purdue, so it's 717 00:31:03,600 --> 00:31:04,960 Speaker 2: not a G five, but it's still kind of the 718 00:31:04,960 --> 00:31:05,400 Speaker 2: same thing. 719 00:31:06,200 --> 00:31:08,240 Speaker 1: Brom's name was very hot. It was on everyone's radar, 720 00:31:08,440 --> 00:31:12,160 Speaker 1: and then a season and two seasons happened and the 721 00:31:12,200 --> 00:31:15,040 Speaker 1: production didn't get duplicated, and so now his name kind 722 00:31:15,040 --> 00:31:16,080 Speaker 1: of fell back a little bit. 723 00:31:16,560 --> 00:31:20,760 Speaker 2: So keep an eye on that Washington at According to 724 00:31:21,000 --> 00:31:24,640 Speaker 2: our collection number twenty three, Washington at twenty three feels 725 00:31:24,640 --> 00:31:26,920 Speaker 2: probably about a sneaky as any team in this thing. 726 00:31:26,960 --> 00:31:28,840 Speaker 2: I was watching Brad Powers the other day on Twitter 727 00:31:28,880 --> 00:31:30,880 Speaker 2: talk about this, and he made some good points. 728 00:31:31,200 --> 00:31:33,600 Speaker 1: If there weren't so many questions from. 729 00:31:33,320 --> 00:31:35,680 Speaker 2: Like the head coach and quarterback spots at Washington, this 730 00:31:35,680 --> 00:31:37,160 Speaker 2: would be the year for the Huskies, and maybe it 731 00:31:37,160 --> 00:31:39,440 Speaker 2: still will be. Question doesn't mean a bad thing if 732 00:31:39,480 --> 00:31:42,680 Speaker 2: it gets answered in the positive. They do not play Utah, 733 00:31:42,920 --> 00:31:45,360 Speaker 2: nor did they play Southern cal From the South. They 734 00:31:45,440 --> 00:31:49,520 Speaker 2: play I think Oregon and Arizona State at home. They 735 00:31:49,560 --> 00:31:51,880 Speaker 2: got Michigan for an out of conference and they go 736 00:31:51,920 --> 00:31:54,479 Speaker 2: there to play Michigan, I believe. But that's set up 737 00:31:54,480 --> 00:31:57,280 Speaker 2: really well for Jimmy Lake and company. Michigan not ranked. 738 00:31:57,960 --> 00:32:01,320 Speaker 2: Penn State meanwhile ranked in the nineteen to twenty range 739 00:32:01,760 --> 00:32:05,560 Speaker 2: by US right now collectively, and that's just something to keep. 740 00:32:05,400 --> 00:32:05,800 Speaker 1: An eye on. 741 00:32:05,800 --> 00:32:07,120 Speaker 2: I think a lot of people in the Big Ten 742 00:32:07,640 --> 00:32:10,960 Speaker 2: view those programs as being comparable. Both had very down 743 00:32:11,040 --> 00:32:15,240 Speaker 2: years last year, both overhauling portions offensively this year. 744 00:32:16,000 --> 00:32:17,440 Speaker 1: Neither one really. 745 00:32:17,280 --> 00:32:19,640 Speaker 2: Thinks they have every question answer to quarterback, even though 746 00:32:19,640 --> 00:32:22,120 Speaker 2: Sean Clifford is a multi year starter at this point. 747 00:32:23,040 --> 00:32:25,840 Speaker 2: But we'll see that game doesn't happen until later in November. 748 00:32:25,840 --> 00:32:30,200 Speaker 2: We'll see Louisiana at Texas in week one. Boy, won't 749 00:32:30,200 --> 00:32:34,280 Speaker 2: that be fun. Penn it was close. It almost went 750 00:32:34,320 --> 00:32:38,120 Speaker 2: down the wrong pipecolumn. Penn State plays Wisconsin in Week one. 751 00:32:38,440 --> 00:32:42,640 Speaker 2: Clemson obviously plays Georgia in Week one, and then there 752 00:32:42,680 --> 00:32:44,560 Speaker 2: are two games within the span of the first two 753 00:32:44,600 --> 00:32:46,720 Speaker 2: weeks from teams that are ranked in the ten to 754 00:32:46,720 --> 00:32:49,200 Speaker 2: fifteen range against teams that are ranked in the top five. 755 00:32:49,520 --> 00:32:53,240 Speaker 2: Miami plays Bama week one, Is it competitive? Of course, 756 00:32:53,280 --> 00:32:55,720 Speaker 2: an upset which shock the world. Is it competitive or 757 00:32:55,760 --> 00:32:58,080 Speaker 2: is it one of those situations where Miami gets broken 758 00:32:58,160 --> 00:33:01,880 Speaker 2: mentally and they don't recover until week seven book mark debt. 759 00:33:02,000 --> 00:33:05,080 Speaker 2: We'll talk about it later. Oregon in week two goes 760 00:33:05,120 --> 00:33:08,160 Speaker 2: to Ohio State. Probably gonna be at that one. That 761 00:33:08,400 --> 00:33:10,480 Speaker 2: is the same deal. This game was supposed to happen 762 00:33:10,520 --> 00:33:12,920 Speaker 2: in Eugene last year had to get canceled. So there 763 00:33:12,920 --> 00:33:14,920 Speaker 2: are a lot of things to look at here. This 764 00:33:14,960 --> 00:33:16,600 Speaker 2: is certainly not my final poll, and no where is 765 00:33:16,600 --> 00:33:19,000 Speaker 2: it our final poll. When we get to the regular season, 766 00:33:19,800 --> 00:33:22,280 Speaker 2: we'll raise the curtain on the JP poll and the 767 00:33:22,360 --> 00:33:25,160 Speaker 2: JP Pole no limits, no holds barred, We go anywhere 768 00:33:25,200 --> 00:33:26,760 Speaker 2: and everywhere. With that one, it's much more of an 769 00:33:26,840 --> 00:33:28,680 Speaker 2: odds maker power rating style poll. 770 00:33:28,960 --> 00:33:30,520 Speaker 1: You don't just win and move up or lose and 771 00:33:30,560 --> 00:33:32,400 Speaker 1: move down in that one. So thank you so much 772 00:33:32,400 --> 00:33:33,160 Speaker 1: for watching tonight. 773 00:33:33,160 --> 00:33:35,560 Speaker 2: Remember at Lake kick Josh on Instagram and Twitter if 774 00:33:35,560 --> 00:33:37,240 Speaker 2: you want to book a Zoom session. I think I 775 00:33:37,320 --> 00:33:40,720 Speaker 2: have two spots open this week, but it got pointed 776 00:33:40,760 --> 00:33:43,160 Speaker 2: out to me that it's not fair that I go 777 00:33:43,480 --> 00:33:47,160 Speaker 2: first served when I do a live show on Sunday night. 778 00:33:47,200 --> 00:33:48,080 Speaker 1: So here's what I'm gonna do. 779 00:33:48,400 --> 00:33:50,479 Speaker 2: I'm gonna tell you I got a couple of sessions 780 00:33:50,520 --> 00:33:53,320 Speaker 2: open this week for Zoom consultations, and I'm not gonna 781 00:33:53,360 --> 00:33:55,880 Speaker 2: check my inbox until tomorrow at noon, so. 782 00:33:55,840 --> 00:33:58,120 Speaker 1: You got until then and I'll just draw you up. 783 00:33:58,560 --> 00:34:00,800 Speaker 1: So until then, thank you again, and like the video 784 00:34:00,840 --> 00:34:02,760 Speaker 1: on the way out, subscribe you know the whole drill. 785 00:34:02,800 --> 00:34:05,360 Speaker 2: I don't have to beg you for Director Emeritus Colin, 786 00:34:05,640 --> 00:34:08,799 Speaker 2: for Jesse and the entire crew in Connecticut, where, by 787 00:34:08,840 --> 00:34:13,200 Speaker 2: the way, the citizens are known as Connecticuts, which I 788 00:34:13,320 --> 00:34:14,080 Speaker 2: was today. 789 00:34:13,880 --> 00:34:15,960 Speaker 1: Years old when I learned. How about that? 790 00:34:16,320 --> 00:34:18,560 Speaker 2: For all of them and myself, thank you for watching, 791 00:34:18,640 --> 00:34:25,760 Speaker 2: have a great start to your week, and God bless