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Speaker 1: Players Lounge. I'll be your host, g Scott. We're alive

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Speaker 1: here at the Cortes Kennedy Players Lounge and one of

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Speaker 1: my favorite guests it likes to show up. And y'all

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Speaker 1: know him as Richard Sherman. But man, Richard Sherman, is

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Speaker 1: there ever a time that you don't just talk trash

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Speaker 1: to me or about me? Why? I mean, how do

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Speaker 1: you not that my feelings aren't hurt by what you say?

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Speaker 1: Because you decided to wear that. It takes a lot

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Speaker 1: wear them today and uh, if you did not want

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Speaker 1: ed Hardy? Do you remember ed Hardy? Does how think

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Speaker 1: what I should have heard what Doug said about me today,

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Speaker 1: worst worst burn I've ever had in fourteen years of

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Speaker 1: being around you guys. What did you say? You said?

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Speaker 1: If I can repeat it on on the players loud, Okay,

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Speaker 1: I want to get right to it. With everything that

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Speaker 1: using the word tragic, tragedies, all kinds of bad stuff.

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Speaker 1: My question for you guys is how do you guys

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Speaker 1: it's like, this is not this is not our final destination.

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Speaker 1: really undress everything about life, like what truly matters in life,

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Speaker 1: So maybe maybe let's just take the conversations, let's say,

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Speaker 1: just like you, get tired, just like you. I get frustrated,

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Speaker 1: they they people are frustrated that we don't have all

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Speaker 1: the answers. But sometimes you should look in the mirror

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Speaker 1: and ask yourself, do you have all the answers? Do

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Speaker 1: you have every solution? What would you do in a situation?

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Speaker 1: What you have done things differently? And if the answer

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Speaker 1: you look at these athletes shut it down? Um, what

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Speaker 1: was the question? Sorry? If I know, I know, Okay,

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Speaker 1: come on now, all right, sorry? Doug. Has the political climate,

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Speaker 1: um our more recent history changed my views of what

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Speaker 1: I want to do after football and done? Um, I

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Speaker 1: wouldn't say it's changed the idea of what I want

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Speaker 1: I think, you know, especially with the recent political climate,

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Speaker 1: I think it's really taught me the importance of empathy

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Speaker 1: with me, but I'm talking about kids who look to me,

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Speaker 1: Like Shrem said, they think we have the answers, but

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Speaker 1: when I can empathize with them and tell them, look,

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Speaker 1: I don't have the answers. I made the same mistakes

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Speaker 1: situations that I've had to go through more recently, you know,

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Speaker 1: not just the political climate that we're going through, but

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Speaker 1: I think right now the political climate is just make it.

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Speaker 1: It's given us as athletes and as people who are

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Speaker 1: more involved with things that are going on. It gives

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Speaker 1: us an opportunity to reevaluate how we would handle ourselves

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Speaker 1: if we were those kids, you know listening to athletes,

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Speaker 1: if we were those individuals, those fans that you know,

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Speaker 1: had out the different perspective, you know, how would we

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Speaker 1: handle ourselves, how would we think, how would we go

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Speaker 1: about trying to empathize with the other side. And I

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Speaker 1: think that's given me more of a platform, or more

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Speaker 1: of an understanding of not necessarily what I would do,

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Speaker 1: but how I would do things well, fellas, I appreciate

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Speaker 1: you guys jumping off another edition of the Players Louse,

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Speaker 1: and I hope we can do this again. I really

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Speaker 1: appreciated Doug Bawling and Richard Sherman. Appreciate everybody for listening.

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Speaker 1: Love you for that. Until next time, Ugly and Pretty