1 00:00:15,760 --> 00:00:18,680 Speaker 1: Hellone, and welcome back to another episode of Are You 2 00:00:18,800 --> 00:00:22,239 Speaker 1: Their Dad? It's me Yoko, And to kick things off 3 00:00:22,280 --> 00:00:24,640 Speaker 1: this week, we're going to spend this segment of They 4 00:00:24,760 --> 00:00:28,800 Speaker 1: Should Have Known talking about the one, the only, the 5 00:00:28,960 --> 00:00:31,240 Speaker 1: Bermuda Triangle. Now, for those of you who are dumb 6 00:00:31,240 --> 00:00:33,519 Speaker 1: and don't know what that is, it's a triangle in 7 00:00:33,640 --> 00:00:37,640 Speaker 1: Bermuda or around Bermuda that people just like randomly disappeared, 8 00:00:38,000 --> 00:00:40,040 Speaker 1: like a lot of ships and a lot of planes 9 00:00:40,440 --> 00:00:43,240 Speaker 1: have gone missing there. And here's the thing. Here's the thing. 10 00:00:43,760 --> 00:00:46,040 Speaker 1: It's like people just don't have on fine my friends 11 00:00:46,080 --> 00:00:48,080 Speaker 1: because if you don't have fine my friends, then you'll die. 12 00:00:48,520 --> 00:00:50,960 Speaker 1: And that's their fault. So all those people they died 13 00:00:50,960 --> 00:00:52,800 Speaker 1: because of that. And I never turned my off, like 14 00:00:52,800 --> 00:00:55,000 Speaker 1: I want all my friends to know where I am constantly. 15 00:00:55,400 --> 00:00:58,320 Speaker 1: And you know what, my dad actually just turned his 16 00:00:58,440 --> 00:01:00,959 Speaker 1: off for me recently, which is fine. I'm not mad 17 00:01:00,960 --> 00:01:03,520 Speaker 1: about it, but it is weird because I just saw 18 00:01:03,720 --> 00:01:06,920 Speaker 1: his other family's child, like, wait, what's that called Olivia? 19 00:01:06,959 --> 00:01:09,440 Speaker 1: What's that called half sister? I just saw my half 20 00:01:09,440 --> 00:01:14,240 Speaker 1: sister's Instagram story and I saw her posting about how 21 00:01:14,280 --> 00:01:17,360 Speaker 1: he took them to Disney World. Recently, which is fine. 22 00:01:17,720 --> 00:01:20,640 Speaker 1: It's fine really, and every wanted to go and I've 23 00:01:20,640 --> 00:01:22,959 Speaker 1: never wanted to go to Disneyland or Disney World. So 24 00:01:23,000 --> 00:01:25,679 Speaker 1: it's fine that they're going without me. And it's fine 25 00:01:25,720 --> 00:01:28,520 Speaker 1: that they're ready to tea cups and sharing a churro together. 26 00:01:28,520 --> 00:01:30,360 Speaker 1: It's fine that my house to share churro with her 27 00:01:30,440 --> 00:01:33,440 Speaker 1: dad my dad while they watched fireworks and stay at 28 00:01:33,440 --> 00:01:37,200 Speaker 1: the Polynesian which is on sale right now during the 29 00:01:37,200 --> 00:01:39,319 Speaker 1: off season. That's fine. I didn't want that. I didn't 30 00:01:39,319 --> 00:01:42,960 Speaker 1: want that for myself anyway, So it's fine. M oh yeah. 31 00:01:42,959 --> 00:01:44,440 Speaker 1: But back to the Bermdia try and go. Yeah, so 32 00:01:44,440 --> 00:01:45,720 Speaker 1: it's like, come on, people, just turn to find my 33 00:01:45,760 --> 00:01:48,320 Speaker 1: friends on or just get to your hot their CRV 34 00:01:48,440 --> 00:01:50,360 Speaker 1: and like turn on the GPS and get out of it. 35 00:01:50,400 --> 00:01:53,160 Speaker 1: You know, it's like the don't die. So anyway, that's 36 00:01:53,520 --> 00:02:01,120 Speaker 1: they should have known. Okay, well, now we're onto the 37 00:02:01,280 --> 00:02:03,720 Speaker 1: next portion of the podcast where we and by we, 38 00:02:04,120 --> 00:02:07,280 Speaker 1: I mean you all because I'm very smart and I 39 00:02:07,320 --> 00:02:09,240 Speaker 1: know everything we're about to talk about. We're gonna learn 40 00:02:09,280 --> 00:02:12,080 Speaker 1: about a new topic and this is you should have 41 00:02:12,200 --> 00:02:15,560 Speaker 1: known and how fitting that we're going to be talking 42 00:02:15,600 --> 00:02:18,600 Speaker 1: to Professor Alan Grundell, who's the vice dean and former 43 00:02:18,600 --> 00:02:28,840 Speaker 1: head of marine biology at Stanford University. Welcome, professor, thank 44 00:02:28,840 --> 00:02:30,360 Speaker 1: you so much for having me. Thank you for that 45 00:02:30,520 --> 00:02:33,680 Speaker 1: lovely introduction. It's so so, so tremendous to be here 46 00:02:33,680 --> 00:02:36,720 Speaker 1: with another fan of the ocean. Wow, that's so great. 47 00:02:36,800 --> 00:02:39,840 Speaker 1: And just a quick correction. I am the vice Weistein. 48 00:02:40,040 --> 00:02:43,320 Speaker 1: I'm the vistein to the Weisteine as it stands right now. 49 00:02:43,600 --> 00:02:47,160 Speaker 1: Oh what, okay, so exactly I know this isn't your expertise, 50 00:02:47,240 --> 00:02:50,960 Speaker 1: but what exactly does a vistein do well? I wouldn't 51 00:02:50,960 --> 00:02:53,240 Speaker 1: know that. That's above my pay grade. I'm the vice 52 00:02:53,320 --> 00:02:56,720 Speaker 1: deane to the vistein. So yeah, I don't really participate 53 00:02:56,720 --> 00:03:00,280 Speaker 1: in those conversations at this time. So what do you do? 54 00:03:01,440 --> 00:03:04,679 Speaker 1: Anything that the visteine neat? A lot of it right 55 00:03:04,720 --> 00:03:08,400 Speaker 1: now is we're trying to find some fish to study 56 00:03:08,400 --> 00:03:13,200 Speaker 1: and look at, because well that's mostly my purview and 57 00:03:13,560 --> 00:03:15,800 Speaker 1: my department is to find and study fish, and right 58 00:03:15,800 --> 00:03:18,639 Speaker 1: now we're having a really hard time finding fish because 59 00:03:19,520 --> 00:03:22,960 Speaker 1: the ocean, as you know, is relatively enormous. I mean, 60 00:03:23,040 --> 00:03:25,720 Speaker 1: you can't even I can't. I'm trying to use my 61 00:03:25,720 --> 00:03:27,440 Speaker 1: hands right now to show how big it is. But 62 00:03:27,919 --> 00:03:29,640 Speaker 1: it's much much bigger than I can show you with 63 00:03:29,680 --> 00:03:32,360 Speaker 1: my hands. And the other really kooky thing about the 64 00:03:32,400 --> 00:03:35,080 Speaker 1: ocean is it doesn't have any corners, so there's no 65 00:03:35,120 --> 00:03:38,920 Speaker 1: way to really get the fish into a specific spot 66 00:03:38,960 --> 00:03:40,600 Speaker 1: or get them into a corner. You gotta let them 67 00:03:40,680 --> 00:03:43,280 Speaker 1: kind of come to you. And that's something that is 68 00:03:43,320 --> 00:03:46,320 Speaker 1: one of the more difficult parts of getting an eyeball 69 00:03:46,360 --> 00:03:48,840 Speaker 1: on these fish is because they kind of go wherever 70 00:03:48,880 --> 00:03:52,280 Speaker 1: they want to. Oh wow, Okay, do you have a 71 00:03:52,320 --> 00:03:56,120 Speaker 1: favorite fish? Wow? It's hard to choose out of the 72 00:03:56,200 --> 00:04:00,000 Speaker 1: so many dozens of fish. I don't have a favorite 73 00:04:00,080 --> 00:04:03,320 Speaker 1: at fish. I think all fish are ruthless and I 74 00:04:03,360 --> 00:04:05,960 Speaker 1: don't really side with any of them, but I respect 75 00:04:06,000 --> 00:04:08,600 Speaker 1: all fish. Okay, So I have a question for you, 76 00:04:09,000 --> 00:04:13,320 Speaker 1: m F. Mary kill a killer whale, a narwhale, and 77 00:04:13,360 --> 00:04:16,320 Speaker 1: a hammerhead shark. Go. There is one ethical correct answer? 78 00:04:18,000 --> 00:04:20,800 Speaker 1: I can you? Can you give me the three again? 79 00:04:20,880 --> 00:04:24,240 Speaker 1: I'm sorry. I was in a bike accident today and 80 00:04:24,279 --> 00:04:27,920 Speaker 1: I I'm having trouble remembering. Yeah, yeah, Stanford right, Um, Yes, 81 00:04:28,480 --> 00:04:32,919 Speaker 1: a killer whale, a narwhale, and a hammerhead shark go. 82 00:04:34,080 --> 00:04:37,600 Speaker 1: I think if I had to have sex with one, 83 00:04:38,360 --> 00:04:41,599 Speaker 1: it would probably be the killer whale. They're sort of 84 00:04:41,640 --> 00:04:43,960 Speaker 1: the bad boys of the ocean, and I think I 85 00:04:43,960 --> 00:04:47,440 Speaker 1: think they could really bring it Mary the narwhale. It's 86 00:04:47,440 --> 00:04:52,120 Speaker 1: a stable, even tempered creature where I wouldn't like I said, 87 00:04:52,160 --> 00:04:55,160 Speaker 1: I respect an orca, but I don't trust an orca, 88 00:04:55,240 --> 00:04:58,800 Speaker 1: and then kill the hammerhead shark. Frankly, it's just it's 89 00:04:58,800 --> 00:05:01,719 Speaker 1: a weird and it's a bad fish. Um. In this job, 90 00:05:01,760 --> 00:05:04,480 Speaker 1: you don't try to make rulings on if fish are 91 00:05:04,480 --> 00:05:07,520 Speaker 1: good or bad. But it's pretty It's it's held sort 92 00:05:07,560 --> 00:05:10,320 Speaker 1: of a standard in the industry that hammerheads are are 93 00:05:10,360 --> 00:05:13,480 Speaker 1: a bad fish. M Did you know that When I 94 00:05:13,560 --> 00:05:17,320 Speaker 1: was younger, Um, people called me Shammou in Florida. I 95 00:05:17,360 --> 00:05:19,479 Speaker 1: did not know that the whale from Sea World that 96 00:05:19,520 --> 00:05:22,240 Speaker 1: was my nickname. Was it because you were in a 97 00:05:22,279 --> 00:05:24,520 Speaker 1: prison made of water? No, it's because I was an 98 00:05:24,600 --> 00:05:28,520 Speaker 1: Orlando transplant against my will. Oh well, that makes sense. 99 00:05:28,560 --> 00:05:31,159 Speaker 1: And I also have a fear of white families watching 100 00:05:31,200 --> 00:05:34,280 Speaker 1: me swim. Oh. I think that's a very reasonable fear. 101 00:05:34,320 --> 00:05:36,640 Speaker 1: I think, um, yeah, I don't think anybody should be 102 00:05:36,680 --> 00:05:39,600 Speaker 1: comfortable with a white family watching them swim. I think 103 00:05:39,640 --> 00:05:42,480 Speaker 1: that's uh. I think you're you're in the right, and 104 00:05:42,520 --> 00:05:45,919 Speaker 1: your instincts feel correct to me. Thank you. Okay. So 105 00:05:45,920 --> 00:05:47,400 Speaker 1: I have a lot of questions about the ocean because 106 00:05:47,400 --> 00:05:49,960 Speaker 1: it's just so big, you know, Yeah, me too. It's 107 00:05:50,040 --> 00:05:54,320 Speaker 1: it's enormous. So I'm understood, I was. I know this already, 108 00:05:54,279 --> 00:05:57,359 Speaker 1: and I'm asking you those questions so that the listeners know. 109 00:05:57,600 --> 00:06:01,680 Speaker 1: Really it's very helpful. So I'm to understand that at 110 00:06:01,680 --> 00:06:04,080 Speaker 1: the bottom of the ocean floor there's tectonic plates that 111 00:06:04,200 --> 00:06:08,040 Speaker 1: meet m you know, and those cause earthquakes, right or 112 00:06:08,120 --> 00:06:12,880 Speaker 1: tsunamism both. Yes, it might understand that earthquakes and tsunamis 113 00:06:12,960 --> 00:06:16,919 Speaker 1: that's just the Earth's cheeks clapping together. Yes, that's a 114 00:06:17,000 --> 00:06:20,719 Speaker 1: that's a really really good way of describing it. Okay, 115 00:06:21,040 --> 00:06:23,240 Speaker 1: it really is. If you do think of the tectonic 116 00:06:23,279 --> 00:06:26,880 Speaker 1: plates as the Earth's cheeks, you know, in the same 117 00:06:26,920 --> 00:06:30,200 Speaker 1: way that say, somebody was shaking their cheeks right in 118 00:06:30,240 --> 00:06:33,000 Speaker 1: front of your face, right, you'd hear the sense like this, 119 00:06:33,800 --> 00:06:37,000 Speaker 1: you'd hear that sound of the cheeks hitting each other, 120 00:06:37,440 --> 00:06:41,279 Speaker 1: and that sound is obviously the result of sonic waves 121 00:06:41,400 --> 00:06:45,719 Speaker 1: being created as the cheeks hit and reflect off of 122 00:06:45,760 --> 00:06:49,240 Speaker 1: each other exactly. And so if you think of the 123 00:06:49,279 --> 00:06:53,160 Speaker 1: tectonic plates as cheeks when they hit together, they are 124 00:06:53,200 --> 00:06:57,159 Speaker 1: also releasing sonic energy. When it happens under water. We 125 00:06:57,200 --> 00:07:00,080 Speaker 1: see that in the form of tsunamis. You know, the 126 00:07:00,080 --> 00:07:04,279 Speaker 1: the sound of those cheeks clapping essentially moves water across 127 00:07:04,320 --> 00:07:06,919 Speaker 1: the ocean, and when it happens in a drier area, 128 00:07:06,960 --> 00:07:10,440 Speaker 1: that's reflected as an earthquake. So yeah, I'd say that's 129 00:07:10,480 --> 00:07:13,920 Speaker 1: a pretty accurate description. And as we know, you know, 130 00:07:13,960 --> 00:07:17,160 Speaker 1: we like to refer to nature as Mother Earth. You know, 131 00:07:17,200 --> 00:07:19,640 Speaker 1: I've written a couple papers about this that you could 132 00:07:19,680 --> 00:07:22,800 Speaker 1: say that Mother Earth, from an academic standpoint, has a 133 00:07:22,880 --> 00:07:27,040 Speaker 1: dump truck ass. Wow, mother Earth has a dump truck ass. 134 00:07:27,440 --> 00:07:30,080 Speaker 1: That's correct. Yes, you know, I've always thought that myself, 135 00:07:30,120 --> 00:07:31,960 Speaker 1: so I'm glad that someone else is affirming it up 136 00:07:31,960 --> 00:07:34,320 Speaker 1: for me. Yes, there's a lot of research to back 137 00:07:34,360 --> 00:07:38,320 Speaker 1: that up, back it up exactly. Yes, Okay, So moving on, 138 00:07:38,800 --> 00:07:41,120 Speaker 1: what do you think is the most evil creature in 139 00:07:41,160 --> 00:07:44,160 Speaker 1: the ocean. Oh, the most evil creature is by far 140 00:07:44,280 --> 00:07:47,720 Speaker 1: the octopus. It's not really a contest now, to be clear, 141 00:07:47,720 --> 00:07:50,680 Speaker 1: the octopus isn't the smartest creature in the ocean. It's 142 00:07:50,760 --> 00:07:54,080 Speaker 1: one of the smarter ones, but it is the most evil. Okay, 143 00:07:54,280 --> 00:07:58,760 Speaker 1: I think in terms of true malice of intent, the 144 00:07:58,800 --> 00:08:02,160 Speaker 1: octopus is number one. All octopi are up to no good. 145 00:08:02,360 --> 00:08:05,360 Speaker 1: They want to hurt us, they want to hurt each other, 146 00:08:05,960 --> 00:08:09,080 Speaker 1: and therein lies the problem in their quest to seek 147 00:08:09,160 --> 00:08:12,000 Speaker 1: domination over the ocean as well as the land, is 148 00:08:12,040 --> 00:08:14,840 Speaker 1: because they have a hard time working together, mainly because 149 00:08:14,880 --> 00:08:18,760 Speaker 1: the octopus has the largest ego of any underwater creature. 150 00:08:19,160 --> 00:08:22,000 Speaker 1: For that reason, it doesn't work well in teams. Now. 151 00:08:22,280 --> 00:08:25,680 Speaker 1: A smarter but less evil animal, but one that I 152 00:08:25,720 --> 00:08:28,440 Speaker 1: still think we should be worried about is the oracle whale, 153 00:08:28,560 --> 00:08:32,080 Speaker 1: as you said earlier, because oracle whales, according to our research, 154 00:08:32,080 --> 00:08:36,160 Speaker 1: are much orders of magnitude more intelligent than human beings. 155 00:08:36,440 --> 00:08:41,439 Speaker 1: The only thing that has stopped oracle whales from being 156 00:08:41,480 --> 00:08:44,680 Speaker 1: the dominant society, the dominant food chain in and out 157 00:08:44,679 --> 00:08:46,600 Speaker 1: of the water, is the fact that oracle whales can't 158 00:08:46,600 --> 00:08:50,319 Speaker 1: hold a gun. They don't have hands. Oh my god. 159 00:08:50,600 --> 00:08:54,479 Speaker 1: And so a lot of my research is in essentially 160 00:08:54,920 --> 00:08:57,920 Speaker 1: the most drastically bad thing that could happen to human 161 00:08:57,960 --> 00:09:00,880 Speaker 1: beings or really any other living creature is for orcas 162 00:09:00,880 --> 00:09:03,640 Speaker 1: to acquire hands, and so we've done a lot of 163 00:09:03,640 --> 00:09:05,680 Speaker 1: research on how do we make sure that orcas don't 164 00:09:05,679 --> 00:09:09,200 Speaker 1: get hands, Because they're considerably smarter than us. It's really 165 00:09:09,200 --> 00:09:12,800 Speaker 1: just an issue of dexterity. Now, that's not to say 166 00:09:12,800 --> 00:09:17,840 Speaker 1: all orca whales are bad, but orca whales, given the opportunity, 167 00:09:18,080 --> 00:09:22,720 Speaker 1: could become the dominant species on earth where Octopi, although 168 00:09:23,040 --> 00:09:27,040 Speaker 1: more evil than orca whales, again too evil to work 169 00:09:27,080 --> 00:09:30,640 Speaker 1: together on anything. They're kind of all out for their 170 00:09:30,679 --> 00:09:37,360 Speaker 1: own purposes, whether those be scams, murders, robbery, trafficking, those 171 00:09:37,400 --> 00:09:40,800 Speaker 1: type of things. Wait, so orcahales could kill us, well, 172 00:09:41,080 --> 00:09:44,480 Speaker 1: they are called killer whales just as a reminder. They 173 00:09:44,480 --> 00:09:46,240 Speaker 1: can definitely kill us. But here's the thing. They can't 174 00:09:46,280 --> 00:09:48,880 Speaker 1: kill us from a distance. And here's the number one 175 00:09:48,880 --> 00:09:51,000 Speaker 1: thing I would want all of your listeners to take away. 176 00:09:51,160 --> 00:09:55,320 Speaker 1: You should never ever, ever, ever go into the water. 177 00:09:55,480 --> 00:09:58,160 Speaker 1: You should never go into an ocean because that's where 178 00:09:58,200 --> 00:10:01,000 Speaker 1: orcas can get you. Orcas at this point in time, 179 00:10:01,280 --> 00:10:04,040 Speaker 1: can't get you on land, and so if you're living 180 00:10:04,040 --> 00:10:06,920 Speaker 1: on land, you should sleep safe at night, at least 181 00:10:06,920 --> 00:10:10,720 Speaker 1: for now. Okay, well, that's very upsetting because I have 182 00:10:10,720 --> 00:10:13,600 Speaker 1: a bachelorette party I'm going to next week in the ocean. 183 00:10:14,080 --> 00:10:17,959 Speaker 1: It's on a boat, so I shouldn't go. I would 184 00:10:18,000 --> 00:10:20,080 Speaker 1: say that you should not go, but if you are 185 00:10:20,200 --> 00:10:23,960 Speaker 1: to go, you definitely want to be very, very heavily armed. 186 00:10:24,120 --> 00:10:26,800 Speaker 1: Are you sure? Because this is Fergie's bachelorette party and 187 00:10:26,840 --> 00:10:31,360 Speaker 1: I feel like I should go. Fergie's bachelorette party's coming up. Yeah, 188 00:10:31,520 --> 00:10:37,000 Speaker 1: Stacy Ferguson, my friend Fergie. Boys, that's a pickle. So 189 00:10:37,120 --> 00:10:40,360 Speaker 1: can I go. Let me think about this for just 190 00:10:40,400 --> 00:10:44,680 Speaker 1: a moment. How close are you to Stacy Ferguson. I'm 191 00:10:44,679 --> 00:10:47,240 Speaker 1: pretty close. I was the third person she called after 192 00:10:47,280 --> 00:10:50,320 Speaker 1: she botched the national anthem. Okay, then yeah you have 193 00:10:50,400 --> 00:10:52,760 Speaker 1: to go. That's so I should go. But should I 194 00:10:52,800 --> 00:10:55,400 Speaker 1: go with a gun? Yeah, you should go, and you 195 00:10:55,400 --> 00:10:59,280 Speaker 1: should bring a gun or a sword. The other thing 196 00:10:59,280 --> 00:11:02,800 Speaker 1: you could do is just where something that tastes really, 197 00:11:02,800 --> 00:11:06,480 Speaker 1: really bad. Okay, that would be another good option. Yeah, Okay, 198 00:11:06,600 --> 00:11:09,040 Speaker 1: if you're listening to this, Freggie, I'll be there. But 199 00:11:09,320 --> 00:11:11,480 Speaker 1: if I'm weird on the boat, know that it's because 200 00:11:11,480 --> 00:11:14,560 Speaker 1: of Let's it's because of him. Here's the thing orcus 201 00:11:14,640 --> 00:11:18,400 Speaker 1: present tremendous danger to us. But friendships, that's the family 202 00:11:18,440 --> 00:11:20,559 Speaker 1: you choose, so you know you really have to put 203 00:11:20,600 --> 00:11:37,560 Speaker 1: that above all else. Okay, Well, to go back to 204 00:11:37,559 --> 00:11:39,480 Speaker 1: the octopus is being evil thing, because the way that 205 00:11:39,480 --> 00:11:41,640 Speaker 1: you're describing it sounds kind of like my stepmom Sharon. 206 00:11:42,360 --> 00:11:47,400 Speaker 1: Oh interesting, you know, evil and sure conniving. So what's 207 00:11:47,440 --> 00:11:49,560 Speaker 1: the most evil thing that you think an octopus could do? 208 00:11:49,640 --> 00:11:53,920 Speaker 1: Because whatever it is probably what my stepmom Sharon's gonna do. Gosh, 209 00:11:53,960 --> 00:11:58,120 Speaker 1: that's a really really good question. What's the most evil 210 00:11:58,200 --> 00:12:00,839 Speaker 1: thing that I think an octopus could do? Or actually, 211 00:12:00,960 --> 00:12:02,959 Speaker 1: let me, let me change that question on you sure, 212 00:12:03,200 --> 00:12:04,959 Speaker 1: what's the most evil thing that you think my stepmom 213 00:12:05,000 --> 00:12:08,360 Speaker 1: Sharon could do? Given that everything you said about octopus 214 00:12:08,480 --> 00:12:11,920 Speaker 1: is a little while ago reminding me of my stepmom Sharon. Great. Great, 215 00:12:11,960 --> 00:12:15,520 Speaker 1: So if your stepmom Sharon is anything like an octopus, 216 00:12:15,960 --> 00:12:21,000 Speaker 1: first of all, she's into emotional manipulation yeah, and is 217 00:12:21,160 --> 00:12:24,439 Speaker 1: probably to my guests, very very clever at it. She 218 00:12:24,520 --> 00:12:28,040 Speaker 1: checks me all the time exactly and making you question 219 00:12:28,120 --> 00:12:32,480 Speaker 1: your own reality. I could see something like, for example, 220 00:12:32,600 --> 00:12:36,480 Speaker 1: changing the size of items in your apartment only slightly 221 00:12:36,520 --> 00:12:39,320 Speaker 1: to make you think that you've grown bigger or smaller. 222 00:12:39,600 --> 00:12:43,280 Speaker 1: What say, for example, she replaces your bed with a 223 00:12:43,360 --> 00:12:47,600 Speaker 1: bed that's three inches wider, making you think that you've shrunk, 224 00:12:47,760 --> 00:12:50,800 Speaker 1: or you know, the obviously the inverse, making your bed 225 00:12:51,040 --> 00:12:54,000 Speaker 1: a few inches narrower, making you think that you've grown, 226 00:12:54,080 --> 00:12:57,280 Speaker 1: replacing your cups was slightly smaller cups. That sort of 227 00:12:57,280 --> 00:12:59,480 Speaker 1: thing making you think that maybe you're turning into some 228 00:12:59,520 --> 00:13:03,600 Speaker 1: sort of iron, or maybe you're slowly shrinking. That's the 229 00:13:03,640 --> 00:13:07,719 Speaker 1: type of thing that, given the capabilities of a bipedal organism, 230 00:13:07,760 --> 00:13:11,600 Speaker 1: that we could easily see transferring from the octopus psyche 231 00:13:11,640 --> 00:13:14,880 Speaker 1: onto a human being. But she's not bipedal. She's only 232 00:13:14,920 --> 00:13:18,440 Speaker 1: into men. She's only into my dad. M okay, So 233 00:13:18,720 --> 00:13:22,320 Speaker 1: I don't think that that part doesn't really track gotcha, gotcha. 234 00:13:22,440 --> 00:13:25,480 Speaker 1: But she's kind of done stuff like that before. Like 235 00:13:25,520 --> 00:13:27,480 Speaker 1: one time she came into my apartment and she moved 236 00:13:27,600 --> 00:13:34,079 Speaker 1: everything three inches to the left except for my computer. Gotcha. 237 00:13:34,160 --> 00:13:36,520 Speaker 1: So I thought I was going crazy. So you walk 238 00:13:36,559 --> 00:13:40,880 Speaker 1: in and immediately you feel off balance, Immediately you feel 239 00:13:40,880 --> 00:13:43,079 Speaker 1: off kilter. Yeah, she did that, and then I was 240 00:13:43,120 --> 00:13:46,719 Speaker 1: so distructed by that I missed my graduation. Wow, I'm 241 00:13:46,760 --> 00:13:50,439 Speaker 1: really sorry to hear that. Yeah, okay, so it sounds 242 00:13:50,440 --> 00:13:52,920 Speaker 1: like you're an expert on my stepmom Sharon too. So okay, 243 00:13:52,960 --> 00:13:55,360 Speaker 1: I have a question then. So if your stepmom, I mean, 244 00:13:55,440 --> 00:14:00,720 Speaker 1: if let's say, an octopus named Sharon in your lab um, 245 00:14:01,520 --> 00:14:05,640 Speaker 1: I don't know, let's say, stopping you from talking to 246 00:14:06,240 --> 00:14:14,160 Speaker 1: your other octopus parent and was changing one digit off 247 00:14:14,240 --> 00:14:17,000 Speaker 1: of his phone number in your octopus phone so that 248 00:14:17,040 --> 00:14:21,480 Speaker 1: you keep texting some random person in Albuquerque instead, and 249 00:14:21,520 --> 00:14:25,120 Speaker 1: then getting confused why it's not your octopus dad? What 250 00:14:25,200 --> 00:14:28,960 Speaker 1: would you do to confront this octopus about that? So, 251 00:14:29,480 --> 00:14:32,240 Speaker 1: like I said earlier, I was in a bike accident 252 00:14:32,280 --> 00:14:34,160 Speaker 1: today and so I kind of I kind of had 253 00:14:34,200 --> 00:14:38,120 Speaker 1: trouble following. You know, what things are octopus specific and 254 00:14:38,160 --> 00:14:41,560 Speaker 1: what pieces of building sort of building out the universe 255 00:14:41,560 --> 00:14:44,600 Speaker 1: in my head of an octopus phone and an octopus 256 00:14:44,600 --> 00:14:47,520 Speaker 1: mom and an octopus dad. But I would say that, um, 257 00:14:47,920 --> 00:14:51,000 Speaker 1: standing up for yourself, that's always a good bat to 258 00:14:51,160 --> 00:14:55,480 Speaker 1: the octopus. Charon. You have to stand up for yourself 259 00:14:56,040 --> 00:15:00,480 Speaker 1: to the octopus. Okay, here's here's the thing. You cannot 260 00:15:00,520 --> 00:15:04,960 Speaker 1: trust an octopus. So any sort of truce or surrender 261 00:15:05,000 --> 00:15:07,440 Speaker 1: to an octopus. They're never going to honor the terms 262 00:15:07,440 --> 00:15:10,560 Speaker 1: and conditions of any sort of agreement. The only way 263 00:15:10,600 --> 00:15:14,440 Speaker 1: to beat them is with pure raw power, physical force, 264 00:15:14,880 --> 00:15:18,280 Speaker 1: and emotional domination. So I wouldn't rely on any sort 265 00:15:18,320 --> 00:15:21,880 Speaker 1: of acquiescence or deal making, because an octopus is going 266 00:15:21,920 --> 00:15:23,920 Speaker 1: to violate the terms of that deal. It'll shake you 267 00:15:23,960 --> 00:15:26,280 Speaker 1: with one hand, and it'll stab you in the back 268 00:15:26,400 --> 00:15:29,000 Speaker 1: with another, and it'll still have six more hands with 269 00:15:29,040 --> 00:15:32,359 Speaker 1: which to do whatever it wants. Professor, did the octopus 270 00:15:32,440 --> 00:15:34,400 Speaker 1: hurt you in your life recently? Because it sounds like 271 00:15:34,440 --> 00:15:39,480 Speaker 1: you're kind of talking from personal experience. I've met several 272 00:15:39,560 --> 00:15:43,760 Speaker 1: octopie in my life. None of them has ever been 273 00:15:43,800 --> 00:15:48,760 Speaker 1: so much as cordial to me. They're all disgusting, slimy 274 00:15:49,360 --> 00:15:53,640 Speaker 1: little villains, and I don't mean to get angry on 275 00:15:53,640 --> 00:15:57,360 Speaker 1: the podcast, but I want to fight them. I want 276 00:15:57,360 --> 00:16:00,960 Speaker 1: to beat the shit out of them. They're discussing little 277 00:16:01,280 --> 00:16:08,320 Speaker 1: slimy creeps. Frankly, they're, in my opinion, gross misogynists. Oh 278 00:16:08,360 --> 00:16:16,680 Speaker 1: and also, um just habitually late to arrangements? Okay, um? 279 00:16:17,040 --> 00:16:22,840 Speaker 1: Is this octopus? Uh? Similarly to four mel four four 280 00:16:23,160 --> 00:16:29,360 Speaker 1: for something? No, I'm literally talking about octopuses. Oh okay, 281 00:16:29,440 --> 00:16:32,200 Speaker 1: I though ye know where you found him? Guys, sorry, 282 00:16:32,200 --> 00:16:35,400 Speaker 1: oh my mic is on. Okay, um, professor, okay, let's 283 00:16:35,400 --> 00:16:38,720 Speaker 1: move on. M. What's the weirdest thing that you've ever 284 00:16:38,720 --> 00:16:43,600 Speaker 1: found in the whales? Blowhole? Oh? Great question. Um, it's 285 00:16:43,600 --> 00:16:46,240 Speaker 1: hard to say because blow holes themselves are so weird, 286 00:16:46,520 --> 00:16:48,600 Speaker 1: you know what I mean? Yeah, and so I think 287 00:16:48,680 --> 00:16:51,360 Speaker 1: I might answer that question with a blow hole itself. 288 00:16:51,400 --> 00:16:52,920 Speaker 1: Every time I get a look at a blow hole, 289 00:16:52,960 --> 00:16:57,160 Speaker 1: I think that's crazy. Frankly, yuck, my ex is blow 290 00:16:57,200 --> 00:17:01,960 Speaker 1: hole is crazy too. It's nasty in what way, just 291 00:17:02,360 --> 00:17:08,040 Speaker 1: looks weird. M. It's like a cavernous but shallow m 292 00:17:08,400 --> 00:17:12,359 Speaker 1: so wide but shallow, like like a ramkin or a 293 00:17:12,440 --> 00:17:15,240 Speaker 1: four rounds mason jar. Yeah. Maybe it's a ramicin the 294 00:17:15,280 --> 00:17:19,640 Speaker 1: thing that you used to make M delicious tooflets and tarts. Yes, 295 00:17:19,720 --> 00:17:23,520 Speaker 1: you would put like a like a crembrulet in a ramkin. Okay, 296 00:17:23,520 --> 00:17:25,480 Speaker 1: you could put like a like a chocolate like a 297 00:17:25,560 --> 00:17:30,280 Speaker 1: lava cake and the ramic cake. Yes, yes, exactly exactly. Okay, Yeah, 298 00:17:30,359 --> 00:17:32,760 Speaker 1: his blowhole is like a rambicin. Then great, Yeah, I 299 00:17:32,840 --> 00:17:36,040 Speaker 1: totally understand. It's grooved. Kind of like it too, I 300 00:17:36,080 --> 00:17:39,800 Speaker 1: don't like it. Oh interesting, interesting, So that's the weirdest 301 00:17:39,800 --> 00:17:43,639 Speaker 1: blowhole I've seen, gotcha? Gotcha? Yeah? Well, every every blowhole 302 00:17:43,720 --> 00:17:46,480 Speaker 1: I've ever seen has been weird in its own way. 303 00:17:46,520 --> 00:17:48,159 Speaker 1: You know. Sometimes I think to myself, why did I 304 00:17:48,200 --> 00:17:52,600 Speaker 1: get into this business? The fish are all over the place, 305 00:17:52,640 --> 00:17:54,440 Speaker 1: the ocean so big. We have no idea how big 306 00:17:54,480 --> 00:17:56,320 Speaker 1: it is. We don't know where it goes. We know 307 00:17:56,359 --> 00:17:57,919 Speaker 1: it goes all over the place, but we don't know 308 00:17:57,960 --> 00:18:01,480 Speaker 1: exactly where. Every time I might look at one of 309 00:18:01,480 --> 00:18:07,000 Speaker 1: these slippery, slimy scumbags, and by that I mean aquatic life, 310 00:18:07,359 --> 00:18:09,720 Speaker 1: I'm more grossed out than the last time. So it 311 00:18:09,760 --> 00:18:11,840 Speaker 1: really is. It's a it's an interesting and it's a 312 00:18:11,840 --> 00:18:18,760 Speaker 1: fickle business. Okay, speaking of that, how rich are you? Well? 313 00:18:18,880 --> 00:18:22,320 Speaker 1: Right now, I'm still I have a negative net worth, 314 00:18:23,119 --> 00:18:27,600 Speaker 1: you know, from nine years of grad school studying marine 315 00:18:27,600 --> 00:18:32,560 Speaker 1: biology and oceanography. So yeah, so at this point I 316 00:18:32,600 --> 00:18:37,720 Speaker 1: am am worth less than zero financially. But I'm hoping 317 00:18:37,760 --> 00:18:41,359 Speaker 1: to discover some sort of unbelievable fish that makes me 318 00:18:41,400 --> 00:18:43,400 Speaker 1: a lot of money somehow, a fish maybe that people 319 00:18:43,400 --> 00:18:45,919 Speaker 1: can invest in or something like that. I miss you 320 00:18:45,960 --> 00:18:48,760 Speaker 1: the best on that endeavor. Thank you so much. And 321 00:18:48,880 --> 00:18:53,280 Speaker 1: I thought you were rich. This kind of sucks. Okay, Well, 322 00:18:53,359 --> 00:18:56,080 Speaker 1: question then, have you ever been to the Tampa Bay Aquarium, 323 00:18:56,200 --> 00:19:00,080 Speaker 1: because if so, I have some follow up questions. I 324 00:19:00,080 --> 00:19:02,800 Speaker 1: have never been to the Tampa Bay Aquarium, but I 325 00:19:02,920 --> 00:19:06,000 Speaker 1: have seen beautiful pictures of it. Oh, so you've never 326 00:19:06,040 --> 00:19:09,399 Speaker 1: been to the Tampa Bay Aquarium. No, because I lost 327 00:19:09,480 --> 00:19:12,400 Speaker 1: my retainer there and I need someone to find it. Oh, okay, 328 00:19:12,880 --> 00:19:14,760 Speaker 1: I can put in a call if you like. No, 329 00:19:14,760 --> 00:19:16,439 Speaker 1: it's okay. I do have some colleagues that work there. 330 00:19:16,440 --> 00:19:18,439 Speaker 1: Are you sure, that's fine, It's fine, fine, fine. I 331 00:19:18,480 --> 00:19:21,080 Speaker 1: just thought maybe you would know. You have my email. 332 00:19:21,119 --> 00:19:22,359 Speaker 1: You let me know if you change your mind, and 333 00:19:22,400 --> 00:19:24,399 Speaker 1: I'll make a call to the Tampa Bay Aquarium. And 334 00:19:25,320 --> 00:19:27,640 Speaker 1: I have a friend there, Jean Pierre, who could actually 335 00:19:27,960 --> 00:19:30,760 Speaker 1: take a look and see if you could find your retainer. Fessor, 336 00:19:30,840 --> 00:19:33,560 Speaker 1: that's the nicest thing ends ever said to me. Oh, 337 00:19:33,600 --> 00:19:36,200 Speaker 1: I'm so sorry to hear this. So kind. I would 338 00:19:36,200 --> 00:19:38,480 Speaker 1: hope that by this time in your life people would 339 00:19:38,480 --> 00:19:42,800 Speaker 1: have said kinder things to you. No, not really tell 340 00:19:42,800 --> 00:19:44,200 Speaker 1: you what, my friend, You've got an awful lot of 341 00:19:44,280 --> 00:19:47,880 Speaker 1: hurt in that voice. No, I'm fine. Anything you want 342 00:19:47,880 --> 00:19:49,879 Speaker 1: to share, anything you want to talk about. No, I 343 00:19:49,920 --> 00:19:52,600 Speaker 1: want to ask this question. Just let me Okay, Like, 344 00:19:52,800 --> 00:19:54,520 Speaker 1: is it is? It? Is it root to poop in 345 00:19:54,560 --> 00:19:57,920 Speaker 1: the ocean? Is my question? No? No, No. You should 346 00:19:57,920 --> 00:20:00,240 Speaker 1: feel free to poop in the ocean at any time. Yeah, 347 00:20:00,240 --> 00:20:03,480 Speaker 1: that's That's an extremely natural part of life. There's nothing 348 00:20:03,520 --> 00:20:06,520 Speaker 1: wrong with that at all. Okay, because I pooped in 349 00:20:06,560 --> 00:20:09,439 Speaker 1: the ocean one time and then my stepmom Sharon was 350 00:20:09,520 --> 00:20:11,320 Speaker 1: screaming at me in front of everyone, saying that I 351 00:20:11,320 --> 00:20:13,600 Speaker 1: can't take hot dumps in the ocean because I'm the 352 00:20:13,640 --> 00:20:16,600 Speaker 1: reason why turtles are dying. No, no, no, The reason 353 00:20:16,680 --> 00:20:21,800 Speaker 1: turtles are dying is the gradual escalation of ocean temperatures, 354 00:20:21,840 --> 00:20:24,520 Speaker 1: as well as the fact that they're extremely slow. They 355 00:20:24,520 --> 00:20:26,600 Speaker 1: didn't get anywhere quickly, and that makes it hard to 356 00:20:26,680 --> 00:20:31,800 Speaker 1: run away. Your dumps of any temperature are no problem 357 00:20:31,840 --> 00:20:34,920 Speaker 1: for the ocean. They're not going to hurt it, absolutely not. 358 00:20:34,960 --> 00:20:39,400 Speaker 1: You shouldn't feel ashamed of that, and you should feel free, honestly, 359 00:20:39,520 --> 00:20:42,119 Speaker 1: feel free. Okay, because I took a dump on the 360 00:20:42,160 --> 00:20:44,480 Speaker 1: ocean the other day at a different bachelorette party, that 361 00:20:44,560 --> 00:20:46,840 Speaker 1: I was at. I was at a different black Eyed 362 00:20:46,880 --> 00:20:49,920 Speaker 1: Peas bachelorette party on the ocean, and I took a 363 00:20:49,960 --> 00:20:52,520 Speaker 1: dumb on that everyone kept making fun of me. Everyone 364 00:20:52,600 --> 00:20:56,040 Speaker 1: can't make fun of me, gotcha. Yeah. Everyone was like, yoka, stop, 365 00:20:56,119 --> 00:20:58,040 Speaker 1: so why are you doing? Why are you taking it? Dump? 366 00:20:58,119 --> 00:21:00,560 Speaker 1: Stop squatting over the deck? Stop? And I said, it's 367 00:21:00,560 --> 00:21:02,359 Speaker 1: a poop deck. It's called a poop deck for a reason. 368 00:21:02,440 --> 00:21:05,440 Speaker 1: And I to go, fat hot dump into the ocean 369 00:21:05,480 --> 00:21:07,280 Speaker 1: and everyone's like stop, stop. And then one person made 370 00:21:07,320 --> 00:21:09,439 Speaker 1: a boomerang of it coming out of my butthole. So 371 00:21:09,480 --> 00:21:11,240 Speaker 1: then it's like me squatting over the ocean and the 372 00:21:11,280 --> 00:21:13,480 Speaker 1: poop goes back up and down, up and down, and 373 00:21:13,480 --> 00:21:15,040 Speaker 1: then it's all made an NFT out of it, and 374 00:21:15,080 --> 00:21:18,240 Speaker 1: now it's just like living on the internet forever. Sure, sure, 375 00:21:19,119 --> 00:21:21,480 Speaker 1: so you have my email. If you do feel comfortable 376 00:21:21,600 --> 00:21:23,960 Speaker 1: sending that to me, that would be you know, no 377 00:21:24,040 --> 00:21:25,800 Speaker 1: pressure at all. But do you feel free to send 378 00:21:25,880 --> 00:21:28,440 Speaker 1: that my way? Okay, yeah, I don't. I don't think 379 00:21:28,440 --> 00:21:31,960 Speaker 1: you should feel any shame, any shame whatsoever, perfectly natural 380 00:21:31,960 --> 00:21:34,320 Speaker 1: part of life. It's good to know. It's like throwing 381 00:21:34,440 --> 00:21:38,360 Speaker 1: up or peeing a little bit when you laugh or 382 00:21:38,359 --> 00:21:40,040 Speaker 1: something like, you know, it's just it's just part of 383 00:21:40,040 --> 00:21:43,280 Speaker 1: being a person. So then it's peeing in the ocean also, okay, 384 00:21:43,520 --> 00:21:46,800 Speaker 1: peeing in the ocean absolutely, Okay. Wow. So if there's 385 00:21:46,840 --> 00:21:49,000 Speaker 1: any takeaway I would want people to get from this 386 00:21:49,160 --> 00:22:06,840 Speaker 1: peeing and pooping in the ocean, it's a green light. Okay, Professor, 387 00:22:06,960 --> 00:22:12,040 Speaker 1: this has been really encouraging. Are you looking to adopt? Adopt? 388 00:22:13,400 --> 00:22:19,680 Speaker 1: Adopt a child in his mid twenties? You know, it's 389 00:22:19,720 --> 00:22:24,479 Speaker 1: so crazy you ask that because I've been thinking in 390 00:22:24,520 --> 00:22:29,560 Speaker 1: this life of the high seas, I'd love to share 391 00:22:30,000 --> 00:22:32,320 Speaker 1: it with someone. I'd love to pass on what I've 392 00:22:32,400 --> 00:22:36,359 Speaker 1: learned from the ocean to somebody. And this could just 393 00:22:36,400 --> 00:22:38,439 Speaker 1: be the bike accident that I was in earlier talking. 394 00:22:38,480 --> 00:22:40,720 Speaker 1: But I don't know if I have it in me 395 00:22:41,359 --> 00:22:44,080 Speaker 1: to raise a child from birth, or to raise a 396 00:22:44,160 --> 00:22:47,439 Speaker 1: child from a small little kid into a fully grown adult. 397 00:22:47,840 --> 00:22:51,800 Speaker 1: But to adopt and I sort of bring into my 398 00:22:52,000 --> 00:22:55,199 Speaker 1: family a twenty year old that feels like just my speed. Actually, 399 00:22:55,240 --> 00:22:58,000 Speaker 1: So I don't know if that was made in jest 400 00:22:58,160 --> 00:23:02,359 Speaker 1: or anything, but no, it's my step mom Sharon that 401 00:23:02,560 --> 00:23:04,400 Speaker 1: I can't go back into the house for the next 402 00:23:04,400 --> 00:23:07,119 Speaker 1: few weeks. Sure, and I picked up on this, like, 403 00:23:07,640 --> 00:23:10,639 Speaker 1: you know, have you seen the movie up? Absolutely? You know, 404 00:23:10,680 --> 00:23:15,640 Speaker 1: the old guy and the little little Asian boy. Absolutely. Yeah. 405 00:23:15,680 --> 00:23:17,159 Speaker 1: I feel like you and I could kind of be 406 00:23:17,240 --> 00:23:21,560 Speaker 1: like that. I don't see why not. This is awesome. 407 00:23:22,080 --> 00:23:26,720 Speaker 1: This is my favorite episode ever. I got a parent. Look, 408 00:23:26,800 --> 00:23:29,639 Speaker 1: it's gonna be extensive paperwork, It's gonna take some time. 409 00:23:30,400 --> 00:23:32,160 Speaker 1: Like I said, I don't have a lot of money, 410 00:23:32,160 --> 00:23:33,920 Speaker 1: but what I do have is a knowledge and a 411 00:23:34,000 --> 00:23:35,879 Speaker 1: love for the sea that I would be happy for 412 00:23:35,920 --> 00:23:40,959 Speaker 1: you to join me. Yet. That's awesome. Wait, so that 413 00:23:41,000 --> 00:23:43,000 Speaker 1: means that I don't have to go back to Sharon. 414 00:23:43,280 --> 00:23:45,760 Speaker 1: That means I don't have to go back to my dad. Well, 415 00:23:45,800 --> 00:23:47,879 Speaker 1: well that's your choice. You can if you like to, 416 00:23:48,040 --> 00:23:50,480 Speaker 1: but you don't have to. No, no, no, I don't 417 00:23:50,480 --> 00:23:52,320 Speaker 1: want to go back. I hate them. Now I have 418 00:23:52,400 --> 00:23:54,919 Speaker 1: a new Hey, dad, you hear that. I have a 419 00:23:55,000 --> 00:23:58,879 Speaker 1: new dad now. Wow. I don't need you. Wow, I 420 00:23:58,880 --> 00:24:01,560 Speaker 1: don't need you. I don't I don't care about you. 421 00:24:01,760 --> 00:24:04,200 Speaker 1: I don't need your validation. I don't even care if 422 00:24:04,200 --> 00:24:06,639 Speaker 1: you show up to my cello recital next week. I 423 00:24:06,680 --> 00:24:09,200 Speaker 1: don't care about any of that. You have a cello 424 00:24:09,240 --> 00:24:12,200 Speaker 1: recital next week? I do. Will you come? I love 425 00:24:12,240 --> 00:24:17,399 Speaker 1: the cello, beautiful instrument, absolutely tremendous instrument. Thanks. I'm not 426 00:24:17,520 --> 00:24:21,680 Speaker 1: very good, but I'll make you proud. Here's the thing. 427 00:24:22,000 --> 00:24:23,800 Speaker 1: I can be proud of you. I cannot be proud 428 00:24:23,840 --> 00:24:25,520 Speaker 1: of you. Your dad can be proud of you. He 429 00:24:25,520 --> 00:24:28,520 Speaker 1: cannot be proud of you. The most important thing, sorry, 430 00:24:28,600 --> 00:24:32,399 Speaker 1: proud of yourself. That's shared. Are you listening to this? 431 00:24:32,760 --> 00:24:34,520 Speaker 1: You need to talk like this to me a little 432 00:24:34,520 --> 00:24:39,600 Speaker 1: bit more often. That's wild. That's wild. Well, professor, I 433 00:24:39,680 --> 00:24:41,520 Speaker 1: have one last question about the ocean before we move 434 00:24:41,560 --> 00:24:45,520 Speaker 1: on to our next segment. Great, okay, So in the 435 00:24:45,560 --> 00:24:48,920 Speaker 1: ocean you said there's a lot of evil creatures. Yes, absolutely, 436 00:24:49,000 --> 00:24:52,200 Speaker 1: And so there's a lot of smart creatures. Yes. Who 437 00:24:52,240 --> 00:24:56,520 Speaker 1: do you think is the dumbest but nicest creature? Oh, 438 00:24:56,520 --> 00:25:00,200 Speaker 1: that's easy. Whales? Whales, and by that I do don't 439 00:25:00,240 --> 00:25:03,760 Speaker 1: mean dolphins. Killer whales are actually part of the dolphin families, 440 00:25:03,760 --> 00:25:06,399 Speaker 1: so they're a little bit different. But whales. Whales are 441 00:25:06,440 --> 00:25:10,960 Speaker 1: incredibly kind and not that sharp. Whales can't do math, 442 00:25:11,560 --> 00:25:14,639 Speaker 1: they can barely read. I'd say the only thing that 443 00:25:14,760 --> 00:25:16,960 Speaker 1: saves them is they have a decent sense of direction. 444 00:25:17,640 --> 00:25:23,680 Speaker 1: They have okay emotional intelligence, but in terms of hard skills, computation, etc. 445 00:25:24,720 --> 00:25:28,119 Speaker 1: Not very good. Also, whales, they don't really understand sarcasm 446 00:25:28,200 --> 00:25:31,720 Speaker 1: or irony at all. Whales have a really, really hard 447 00:25:31,760 --> 00:25:36,359 Speaker 1: time understanding any sort of complex humor. But whales really 448 00:25:36,440 --> 00:25:42,320 Speaker 1: never hurt anybody. They make amazing pets, they're wonderful travel companions, 449 00:25:42,920 --> 00:25:47,919 Speaker 1: and they're extremely trustworthy and loyal. You know, Look, every 450 00:25:48,000 --> 00:25:51,680 Speaker 1: creature has its pros and cons. Whales overall, they're all 451 00:25:51,760 --> 00:25:54,960 Speaker 1: right with me. It sounds like you really like whales, Professor. 452 00:25:56,800 --> 00:26:03,800 Speaker 1: I find whales useful. I find whaless interesting. Look again, 453 00:26:03,840 --> 00:26:05,159 Speaker 1: I try not to get into good and bad. I 454 00:26:05,200 --> 00:26:07,440 Speaker 1: know earlier I kind of slipped up. I let some 455 00:26:07,760 --> 00:26:11,560 Speaker 1: passions overtake me, and I mentioned how hammerhead sharks are bad. 456 00:26:11,920 --> 00:26:14,880 Speaker 1: Whales on the spectrum probably good. I guess you could 457 00:26:14,920 --> 00:26:18,560 Speaker 1: say that I like them. But again, what am I 458 00:26:18,560 --> 00:26:20,800 Speaker 1: going to Essentially, here's how i'd put it. What am 459 00:26:20,800 --> 00:26:22,760 Speaker 1: I going to talk about with a whale? What am 460 00:26:22,760 --> 00:26:25,280 Speaker 1: I going to do with a whale? There's not much. 461 00:26:25,720 --> 00:26:28,679 Speaker 1: I respect them, I give them their distance, they respect me, 462 00:26:28,720 --> 00:26:30,800 Speaker 1: They give me my distance. If we see each other, 463 00:26:30,880 --> 00:26:34,040 Speaker 1: we might say hello, that sort of thing, but overall, 464 00:26:34,119 --> 00:26:36,639 Speaker 1: there's not I don't have that much in common with 465 00:26:36,680 --> 00:26:39,000 Speaker 1: a whale. If that makes sense, Well, then what's your 466 00:26:39,000 --> 00:26:46,520 Speaker 1: favorite creature? Oh, my favorite sea creature? Gosh, it's crazy 467 00:26:46,600 --> 00:26:49,640 Speaker 1: nothing you bring it up. I guess I don't really 468 00:26:49,640 --> 00:26:52,200 Speaker 1: have one. And that makes me realize I've been spending 469 00:26:52,200 --> 00:26:54,399 Speaker 1: all this time in the ocean making observations, but I 470 00:26:54,440 --> 00:27:00,000 Speaker 1: haven't really been making friends. And you'd think after all 471 00:27:00,119 --> 00:27:03,000 Speaker 1: these years in the ocean, I would have a couple 472 00:27:03,000 --> 00:27:04,479 Speaker 1: of friends that I could call on. And I think 473 00:27:04,520 --> 00:27:06,719 Speaker 1: it wasn't until this moment that I realized, you know, 474 00:27:06,840 --> 00:27:08,760 Speaker 1: in the ocean, I have a lot of work colleagues. 475 00:27:09,560 --> 00:27:12,399 Speaker 1: I have a lot of ocean dwellers that respect me 476 00:27:12,440 --> 00:27:14,560 Speaker 1: and whom I respect, but nobody that I could really 477 00:27:15,640 --> 00:27:18,800 Speaker 1: call on in hard times. And I think that's something 478 00:27:18,800 --> 00:27:20,600 Speaker 1: that I needed to wait to think about. I'll be 479 00:27:20,680 --> 00:27:24,640 Speaker 1: your faith, I'll be your favorite creature. What about me? 480 00:27:26,080 --> 00:27:29,520 Speaker 1: You're a person, but I can be your favorite I 481 00:27:29,600 --> 00:27:33,119 Speaker 1: just want to be someone's favorite thing. I can't be 482 00:27:33,160 --> 00:27:36,760 Speaker 1: your favorite ocean creature, but you're not. Just so it 483 00:27:36,840 --> 00:27:38,320 Speaker 1: just sounds like when you're talking about whales that you 484 00:27:38,359 --> 00:27:40,400 Speaker 1: like whales more than me and I don't know. I'm 485 00:27:40,440 --> 00:27:42,680 Speaker 1: just I just Hey, have you ever heard of a 486 00:27:42,760 --> 00:27:47,280 Speaker 1: zero sum game? No? What's that? So it's this idea 487 00:27:47,320 --> 00:27:49,439 Speaker 1: that for one person to win the other has to 488 00:27:49,480 --> 00:27:53,040 Speaker 1: lose and Buddy, just because I like whales doesn't mean 489 00:27:53,080 --> 00:27:55,879 Speaker 1: I like you any less. I can like both things. 490 00:27:56,119 --> 00:27:58,800 Speaker 1: This sounds like when someone's trying to explain to me Wortle. 491 00:27:58,920 --> 00:28:02,960 Speaker 1: I don't get it. I don't get it. Hey, can 492 00:28:02,960 --> 00:28:07,080 Speaker 1: I whale play the cello? No, that's right, it doesn't 493 00:28:07,119 --> 00:28:09,679 Speaker 1: have hands. You can play the cello, and I can 494 00:28:09,680 --> 00:28:12,960 Speaker 1: shoot a gun and you can shoot a gun. Yeah, 495 00:28:13,000 --> 00:28:15,359 Speaker 1: And you can host a podcast and I can hear 496 00:28:15,400 --> 00:28:18,280 Speaker 1: the podcast. Do you hear that? Sharon? You have a 497 00:28:18,320 --> 00:28:20,720 Speaker 1: lot of things going for you, okay, And I don't 498 00:28:20,720 --> 00:28:24,960 Speaker 1: want you to overlook those. Thanks. And that concludes this 499 00:28:25,040 --> 00:28:34,520 Speaker 1: segment that before we say goodbye, we're gonna do our 500 00:28:34,600 --> 00:28:38,160 Speaker 1: last segment called I should have known, where our guest 501 00:28:38,200 --> 00:28:41,160 Speaker 1: has to answer questions about me to prove that I 502 00:28:41,280 --> 00:28:44,240 Speaker 1: may be an expert and professor Grundle's field, but he's 503 00:28:44,240 --> 00:28:48,280 Speaker 1: probably not an expert in mind are you ready? Yes? Okay, 504 00:28:48,360 --> 00:28:51,120 Speaker 1: let's go. Okay. Question number one, what do I like 505 00:28:51,320 --> 00:28:58,000 Speaker 1: more cats or dogs? Dogs? Wrong? Picking is homophobic? The 506 00:28:58,040 --> 00:29:02,240 Speaker 1: Bible taught me that. Question number two, who is my 507 00:29:02,480 --> 00:29:11,800 Speaker 1: dream emergency contact? Free? No, I am Freggie's emergency contact, 508 00:29:11,840 --> 00:29:15,560 Speaker 1: but she's not my emergency contact. My dream emergency contact 509 00:29:15,600 --> 00:29:18,640 Speaker 1: would be Mariah Carey. I think she seems reliable, do 510 00:29:18,640 --> 00:29:21,040 Speaker 1: you know what I mean? Totally? Yes, she'll be there. 511 00:29:21,480 --> 00:29:23,840 Speaker 1: She's a song about that. Yeah. She just seems like 512 00:29:23,880 --> 00:29:26,760 Speaker 1: she'll drop everything to be there for me. But I 513 00:29:26,800 --> 00:29:30,320 Speaker 1: hope I'm not hers. She seems like a giver exactly. Okay. 514 00:29:30,400 --> 00:29:35,120 Speaker 1: Number three, what's my favorite restaurant? I know you definitely 515 00:29:35,160 --> 00:29:38,600 Speaker 1: don't know this one. For whatever reason, Chili's popped into 516 00:29:38,600 --> 00:29:43,560 Speaker 1: my head, but I don't know if that's accurate. No. Wrong. 517 00:29:44,000 --> 00:29:47,600 Speaker 1: The answer is the Cafeteria and the Tampa Bay Aquarium. 518 00:29:47,600 --> 00:29:49,600 Speaker 1: And I know you don't know that because you've never 519 00:29:49,680 --> 00:29:53,000 Speaker 1: been correct, But they have delicious French fries. And that 520 00:29:53,080 --> 00:29:54,920 Speaker 1: now explains to me how you lost your retainer. My 521 00:29:54,960 --> 00:29:57,240 Speaker 1: guess is you took it out to eat the French fries, 522 00:29:57,880 --> 00:29:59,680 Speaker 1: set it down, and either somebody took it or you 523 00:29:59,720 --> 00:30:02,240 Speaker 1: forgot to put it back in it. This is the 524 00:30:02,360 --> 00:30:06,800 Speaker 1: Vice Dean, Vice Dean of Stanford right here, exactly right, professor. Okay, 525 00:30:06,920 --> 00:30:13,760 Speaker 1: number four, what's the worst movie I've ever seen? Musucci? Wrong? 526 00:30:13,920 --> 00:30:17,000 Speaker 1: The answer is my stupid step mom Sharon's home birth 527 00:30:17,040 --> 00:30:21,280 Speaker 1: flog that my dad made me watch. Wow, it's awful. 528 00:30:21,320 --> 00:30:23,920 Speaker 1: It was gross, and it was just so stupid because 529 00:30:23,920 --> 00:30:25,800 Speaker 1: he just seems so happy to meet this baby. And 530 00:30:25,840 --> 00:30:28,280 Speaker 1: I've seen his video of meeting me at my mom's 531 00:30:28,320 --> 00:30:30,520 Speaker 1: birth and he did not seem that happy to see me. 532 00:30:31,040 --> 00:30:34,680 Speaker 1: It's just ridiculous. That's really tough. Who my producer, Olivia's selling? 533 00:30:34,680 --> 00:30:37,200 Speaker 1: I have to move on? Okay, and last question, who's 534 00:30:37,240 --> 00:30:47,280 Speaker 1: my favorite poet? Ed Garland Poe? Wrong? It's me. I'm 535 00:30:47,320 --> 00:30:49,560 Speaker 1: my favorite poet. Would you like to do one of 536 00:30:49,560 --> 00:30:54,240 Speaker 1: your poems for me? Really? Dad? I would love to 537 00:30:54,240 --> 00:31:05,520 Speaker 1: hear one of your poems. Okay, um uh too. Thanks 538 00:31:05,520 --> 00:31:08,440 Speaker 1: for listening to this week's episode of Are You There? Dad? 539 00:31:08,480 --> 00:31:15,720 Speaker 1: It's me Yoko. Until next time. Bye,