Speaker 1: This is the Ben and Ashley I Almost Famous podcast
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Speaker 2: Hey guys, welcome to the Almost Famous podcast. Today. Ben
Speaker 2: is like he's at a closet in the woods. He
Speaker 2: tells me.
Speaker 3: That's actually a very accurate description of where I sit
Speaker 3: right now. I am at Lost Valley Ranch, which probably
Speaker 3: some of our listeners have been to. It's a dude
Speaker 3: ranch in Colorado right now. And so I'm up here
Speaker 3: hanging out with a few like just business people for
Speaker 3: the next few days talking about generous and I cannot
Speaker 3: miss doing our podcast. So I jumped in the booth
Speaker 3: to get on here because Ashley, here's to do.
Speaker 2: We got some in the closet. We got some good
Speaker 2: headlines today. Yeah, so you want to kick me off.
Speaker 3: I do. The first one is this Kelsey Anderson's dad
Speaker 3: Mark dances with one Tree Hill Start Barbara Allan Woods
Speaker 3: in cute video Ashley. Last week during headlines, we kind
Speaker 3: of broke that the two of them had very publicly
Speaker 3: posted on social media like very much a hard launch
Speaker 3: from the very start and well it's not stopping.
Speaker 2: No no. So if you weren't convinced from the Halloween
Speaker 2: TikTok or picture that they had together. This is really
Speaker 2: this is confirming to me that they are a couple.
Speaker 2: So just to remind you, Barbara Allen played Nathan's mom
Speaker 2: on One Tree Hill and she is a few years
Speaker 2: older than Mark. She's sixty two, Mark fifty seven. And
Speaker 2: this is the second post that we've gotten from them
Speaker 2: in the past two weeks. They are in this video
Speaker 2: dancing in front of a romantic, brightly lit Christmas tree.
Speaker 2: And she posted this video and the caption said in
Speaker 2: good company. And the kicker here is that Kelsey seemingly
Speaker 2: sent in her seale of approval, mending the words well,
Speaker 2: the word aw underneath the video and the the in
Speaker 2: the comments. So Mark is off the market.
Speaker 3: This is this is big news from Mark, good news
Speaker 3: from Mark. We're happy he's happy, because honestly, that's all
Speaker 3: we've ever wanted from Mark is to be happy.
Speaker 2: Right. That is true. We did not need him to
Speaker 2: be the Golden Bachelor. It's just crazy that my two
Speaker 2: front rudders for Golden Bachelor have basically hard launched.
Speaker 3: Yeah, we're going to talk about Jonathan and his hard
Speaker 3: launch in just a second, but before we do, Ashley,
Speaker 3: I want you to explain to me and remind me
Speaker 3: of the backstory here. But here's the headline, Bachelor paradises
Speaker 3: Avan and Kylie. They seemingly reunite in Mexico after reconciliation
Speaker 3: and split. Now, if I remember right, we had the
Speaker 3: headline a few months ago about how Kylie kind of
Speaker 3: came out very much against Avan, kind of getting upset
Speaker 3: with him, and now they're reuniting again. Tell me what's
Speaker 3: going on here?
Speaker 2: Well, you and I kind of missed that. Back in June,
Speaker 2: she was on the Happy Hour podcast and she admitted
Speaker 2: that she and Avon had kind of reconciled, but at
Speaker 2: the point that she was on the podcast, they had
Speaker 2: already split again, so it was kind of like non news.
Speaker 2: But here they are again, six months after the recording
Speaker 2: of that podcast, and they were both spotted at the
Speaker 2: same resort in Cabo, although they were spotted together at
Speaker 2: the airport, but they both posted pictures from the resort
Speaker 2: in Cabo, so it was a birthday trip for him.
Speaker 2: It just seems like they're revisiting this relationship for the
Speaker 2: third time.
Speaker 3: I mean, Ashley, what do you think about this? Is
Speaker 3: this like, what do you think is going on behind
Speaker 3: the scenes here? That's making the two of them go, yes,
Speaker 3: you still are the right person for me.
Speaker 2: I think it's hard for the for you to give
Speaker 2: credit to the relationship the third time. Okay, the second
Speaker 2: time makes like I understand. The second time you're like, oh,
Speaker 2: you know what redo, especially because he totally effed up,
Speaker 2: like he pretty much publicly admitted to cheating on her
Speaker 2: soon after getting off a Bachelor in Paradises. They weren't engaged,
Speaker 2: but they were in a serious relationship and she was
Speaker 2: moving to San Diego for him, So that's that. I
Speaker 2: just I don't know. I think that if you just
Speaker 2: keep revisiting the same thing, Like obviously there's probably an
Speaker 2: insane physical attraction between the two of them, and I'm
Speaker 2: sure there's a lot of love too, But I don't
Speaker 2: know that I could say that it's like gonna last
Speaker 2: the long term.
Speaker 3: It's an interesting situation. We'll be tracking it. I mean,
Speaker 3: we'll be following it. We wish we had a paradise
Speaker 3: to follow a little closer. Well, actually, a lot of
Speaker 3: conversations this week, and I'm going to tie kind of
Speaker 3: all of the gin Tran headlines into one.
Speaker 2: If we can't, can we bring up the fact that
Speaker 2: you were the one that popped first and sent to
Speaker 2: the group message all of Devon's his responses to people
Speaker 2: because he was in a sassy mood the other day
Speaker 2: in his comment.
Speaker 3: Section, I would not just say a sassy mood like
Speaker 3: a dicky move. Yeah, like sassy, I think has this
Speaker 3: side of it that's like intelligently responding and you're like
Speaker 3: kind of getting at people like I'm sassy and I'm
Speaker 3: kind of dising people and like track, you know, getting
Speaker 3: them where they're at. These were just like outrageously weird comments,
Speaker 3: like he was mad and he was saying stuff that
Speaker 3: didn't make any sense. But the headline is this. Jen
Speaker 3: gives credit to Sasha, her Dance with the Stars partner,
Speaker 3: for grounding her during kind of the breakup and the
Speaker 3: aftermath of her season at the Bachelorette. Obviously, then from
Speaker 3: some of the videos posted this week that of Gin
Speaker 3: and Sasha, which is not uncommon. They've been posting a
Speaker 3: lot together since their time on't Dance with the Stars.
Speaker 3: Devin says, Hey, you know what I want to do tonight.
Speaker 3: I want to cause some more like issues and so
Speaker 3: here's the headline. That's very interesting. Jen transx Devonstrator throws
Speaker 3: shade at her Dancing with the Stars partner Sasha amid
Speaker 3: romance rumors. Here's the crazy part. Devin's big comeback to
Speaker 3: Sasha at the beginning is, Sasha is a girl's name. Well,
Speaker 3: Devin's a girl's name. I have friends that are named Devin.
Speaker 2: I know the name Sasha could go either way, and
Speaker 2: so can the name Devin. So it is ironic that
Speaker 2: he used that as the disc But that was in
Speaker 2: response to a comment that he got November ninth on
Speaker 2: an Instagram post where it said Jen found a great name.
Speaker 2: Great guy. His name is Sasha. He said, Sasa is
Speaker 2: a girl's name, and then I was interested to see
Speaker 2: that Sasha actually responded to this. He said, the name
Speaker 2: Sasha is short for Alexander. You know who also had
Speaker 2: the name Alexander, Alexander the Great FYI, Okay, you didn't
Speaker 2: even have to do that, Sasha. This kind of don't
Speaker 2: give him any attention, and it just seems like a
Speaker 2: corny response. In my opinion, he would have been cooler
Speaker 2: leaving it alone. I think it's also worth mentioning that
Speaker 2: in this spree of comments that he was sending off
Speaker 2: like he called one person fat.
Speaker 3: I think, yeah, he called this was all outrageously behavior.
Speaker 2: And then somebody said, oh wow, Devin's spiraling in the
Speaker 2: comments section, and then he and then in response to
Speaker 2: somebody saying that Jen was killing it when she and
Speaker 2: Sasha arrived at the Wicked premiere together, he responded under
Speaker 2: this saying jobless, supporting jobless, alluding to the fact that,
Speaker 2: like the person responding was jobless, and then Jen is
Speaker 2: also jobless. It's like, is he like on drugs?
Speaker 3: Like none of this is true. I mean, Jin just
Speaker 3: finished Dancing with the Stars. She just got paid a
Speaker 3: lot of money.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's a lot of money for not having a job.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean you're making money like he's she's doing
Speaker 3: something on television. It's it's just it feels like he's hurting,
Speaker 3: and so I think we have to acknowledge it. He
Speaker 3: is hurting. This is not good behavior. Sasha never needed
Speaker 3: to respond. Nobody here is going you know what, Devon's
Speaker 3: right like this, he is spot on it. It's just
Speaker 3: odd that Devin continues to pop up and like dig
Speaker 3: himself a bigger and bigger hole. You've never I've never
Speaker 3: seen somebody consistently come into the public light and just
Speaker 3: dig bigger holes. Like I didn't think he could get bigger,
Speaker 3: but yet he found a way to dig a bigger
Speaker 3: hole for himself, I know.
Speaker 2: And to think that we thought he was kind of
Speaker 2: fading away certainly was like, Hello, I'm still here with
Speaker 2: this activity.
Speaker 3: And I'm not going to say anything nice. I'm going
Speaker 3: to continue to be just just mean and that's going
Speaker 3: to create a headline that I need.
Speaker 2: Oh and one more comment. Somebody said like one of
Speaker 2: the things that he said, he said, Hey, shut the
Speaker 2: f up, this is my Instagram.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean I think she could probably say the
Speaker 3: same thing back to him then, like, it's my Instagram too.
Speaker 3: We're both doing this.
Speaker 2: Weird game about on Instagram.
Speaker 3: Yeah, we're both there, both doing it. I don't know, Ash,
Speaker 3: It's a very weird situation, and it continues to get weirder.
Speaker 2: Well, let's speculat Okay, let's just create some drama here.
Speaker 2: Do you think that Sasha and Jen have anything more
Speaker 2: than friendship?
Speaker 3: Yes, no question.
Speaker 2: Oh why do you think this?
Speaker 1: So?
Speaker 2: He split with Emmislator one of his Dancing with the
Speaker 2: Stars co stars. I want to say it was about
Speaker 2: a year ago that they announced their divorce, and so
Speaker 2: of course they're going to pair her with somebody single,
Speaker 2: and they have been out and about a little bit
Speaker 2: more together than your average pair that has already been
Speaker 2: eliminated from the show. Okay, okay, so you were certain?
Speaker 2: Why are you so certain?
Speaker 3: I just I mean, I think it goes to my
Speaker 3: theory that at some point, when you're both too attractive,
Speaker 3: people who are single, like you can be friends. I'm
Speaker 3: not saying you cannot be friends, but when you're hanging
Speaker 3: out together all the time, like there's there's something else
Speaker 3: going on. Yeah, Like she's hanging out his house, she's
Speaker 3: doing tiktoks at his house. I just think when you're
Speaker 3: around each other, there's gotta be some physical attraction. I'm
Speaker 3: not saying they're dating. I'm not saying it's a committed relationship.
Speaker 3: What I am saying is like, I'm sure there's been
Speaker 3: a lot of flirtation leading up to maybe some handholding.
Speaker 2: Can I say that, Like, I don't even know how
Speaker 2: attracted you have to be to the person to find
Speaker 2: yourself attracted to them when you're dancing, so it'sentally so
Speaker 2: often yeah, right, yeah, like may not be your type
Speaker 2: but you can find yourself attracted, you know what I mean.
Speaker 3: Well, I mean I think dancing is just you know,
Speaker 3: we've talked. We talked about with Joey and his partner
Speaker 3: on Dance with the Stars, Like I think it is
Speaker 3: like you want to get close to your partner, you
Speaker 3: want to find the chemistry. And I think when you're
Speaker 3: on Dancing with the Stars, I think oftentimes for two
Speaker 3: single people. I mean we saw it with Sasha and Emma, right,
Speaker 3: there was something that sparked from that environment. And why
Speaker 3: you know, if it's his job, if it's where he's
Speaker 3: spending a lot of his time, why would we be
Speaker 3: ones to question if it could happen again.
Speaker 2: Well, also with val and and Jenna. So Val and
Speaker 2: Jenna they're two stars of Dancing with the Stars and
Speaker 2: they got married. And what I think is really sweet
Speaker 2: is that Joey requested that he be paired with somebody
Speaker 2: a partner from the show who also was in a
Speaker 2: serious relationship, because he didn't want rumors swirling about a
Speaker 2: possible relationship or like there to be problems with Kelsey
Speaker 2: because of the dancing partner. And that's who he got
Speaker 2: paired with, Jenna. But even though he got paired with
Speaker 2: somebody married with child, there's still rumors that possibly Dancing
Speaker 2: with the Stars is coming between he and Kelsey.
Speaker 3: Bachelor's Kelsey Anderson addresses joey relationship status amid personal issues,
Speaker 3: and those are in quotes that is from Kelsey that
Speaker 3: she says, she's, you know, there's personal issues, Ashley, can
Speaker 3: you please expand on this?
Speaker 2: Okay, So she just went off social media. She said
Speaker 2: that she was like, you know, it's time to watch
Speaker 2: the election results. Like I'm here with a glass of wine.
Speaker 2: You know, let's just like take a step back. But
Speaker 2: she did say that like there was some personal reasons
Speaker 2: that did not pertain to Joey, which was why she
Speaker 2: was just offline for a little bit. But then she
Speaker 2: did kind of give shade to people who are talking
Speaker 2: about Getty with the Stars coming in between them and
Speaker 2: their relationship. She said, Kelsey, why is Jenna touching your
Speaker 2: man like that? Honestly, I don't know. Maybe it's because
Speaker 2: it's her job. Maybe it's because she's a professional dancer
Speaker 2: and she has to touch him to dance. I don't know,
Speaker 2: that's my understanding of it. She goes, I'm just so
Speaker 2: tired of everyone being like, Kelsey's so strong. I couldn't
Speaker 2: do this. I could not watch this if I were Kelsey.
Speaker 2: She goes, let's do a little recap here. This is
Speaker 2: a TikTok video. By the way, she said, do you
Speaker 2: remember how Joey and I met? We met on the Bachelor.
Speaker 2: He was dating thirty one other women while he was
Speaker 2: dating me, and I won the Super Bowl ring. So yeah,
Speaker 2: she is definitely clearly saying that it's not dancing with
Speaker 2: the Stars that's bothering her right now.
Speaker 3: We wish Kelsey the best because Kelsey, obviously it's been
Speaker 3: a wild ride. We know that no matter what I'm
Speaker 3: not saying or even insinuating, the dancing with the Stars
Speaker 3: is getting between them. But we know that dancing with
Speaker 3: the Stars is really hard on couples, no matter what,
Speaker 3: even if you've been married for twenty years. It's a
Speaker 3: lot of time away, it's a lot of stress, it's
Speaker 3: a lot of physical activity or tired. And so this
Speaker 3: ride for Kelsey since her time on the Bachelor has
Speaker 3: been a lot of kind of like, you know, supporting Joey,
Speaker 3: which is awesome. It's so cool that he has these opportunities,
Speaker 3: But we hope that at some point here they can
Speaker 3: both take a breather and get back to just being
Speaker 3: a happy couple.
Speaker 2: And guess what, They've been a happy couple for one
Speaker 2: year today. Let's go get anniversary to them. It was today,
Speaker 2: a year ago that they got engaged. And before we leave,
Speaker 2: Kelsey and j I do want to make a couple
Speaker 2: more comments about her dad with his new boo. Barbara
Speaker 2: Kelsey does follow her on Instagram, should be mentioned, and
Speaker 2: she is actually recently single. She split up with her
Speaker 2: husband John after more than twenty years in May. All right,
Speaker 2: moving on to the next headline again juicy.
Speaker 3: Well, two final headlines here. Golden bachelore It's Jonathan Rone
Speaker 3: found his second chance at love with girlfriend Michelle. Now
Speaker 3: we brought it up a second ago, obviously one of
Speaker 3: Ashley's absolute favorites from this Golden Bachelorette season. And he's
Speaker 3: now announcing that he's got a boo.
Speaker 2: He does, and I think he's saying I love you,
Speaker 2: he said, so I dropped the bomb. I started my
Speaker 2: journey looking for love, a love that is a forever love.
Speaker 2: This is what he captioned. And then he goes a
Speaker 2: love I thought I once had, but this was my
Speaker 2: second chance. So I went all in with no walls
Speaker 2: to protect my vulnerability, and I had no other intentions
Speaker 2: than that. This journey can be full of expectations, but
Speaker 2: the unexpected happened, and the bomb is the second chance
Speaker 2: I've been looking for. Either he said I love you
Speaker 2: to his girlfriend, or he refers to her as the bomb,
Speaker 2: because he continues to say, I'm happy to say that
Speaker 2: Michelle is truly my bomb, and thank you for all
Speaker 2: the support and kind words. Bachelor Nation.
Speaker 3: Do we know what like that exactly means?
Speaker 2: The bomb?
Speaker 3: Yeah?
Speaker 2: I don't know what he what he means by this.
Speaker 3: I thought it was like something the kids were saying
Speaker 3: these days that I don't know about.
Speaker 2: Oh, I guess it could be. And we're somewhere lost
Speaker 2: in between. We're sixty something year old Jonathan gets it
Speaker 2: and we don't.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I wouldn't be shocked, Ashley. I'd actually be not
Speaker 3: be shocked.
Speaker 2: That's so funny. That's interesting, truly my bomb.
Speaker 3: Yeah, nothing else, it's very interesting. Nicknamed call somebody you
Speaker 3: love the bomb, my bomb, you blow everything up. I
Speaker 3: don't know what exactly that could be insinuating, but well,
Speaker 3: my heart he's in a relationship. Well, finally, the Golden Bachelor.
Speaker 3: AT's Pascal would ask for younger women if he was
Speaker 3: the Golden Bachelor. Well, at this point, Ashley, here's the deal.
Speaker 3: He would have a really good shot at be in
Speaker 3: the Golden Bachelor. I mean, you got not a lot
Speaker 3: of guys left, and not a lot of guys left
Speaker 3: without a restraining order.
Speaker 2: This is true, facts, Ben, This is directing me to
Speaker 2: think that it's a possibility that Charles really could be
Speaker 2: our next Bachelor.
Speaker 3: I would love it best gratings ever.
Speaker 2: It would be a totally different show. But if you
Speaker 2: want what people love from the show, and that is
Speaker 2: its endearing quality, like you couldn't you're gonna have an
Speaker 2: enduring bomb with Charles.
Speaker 3: Do you just use the word bomb?
Speaker 2: Yeah? On purpose?
Speaker 3: Is this something we're gonna start saying here? Well?
Speaker 2: I just said it in reference to our last headline.
Speaker 3: Okay, yeah, all.
Speaker 2: Right, So yeah, Pascal, I don't know that he's doing
Speaker 2: himself any favors with this. I almost think that with
Speaker 2: this headline alone, he has limited himself from Golden Bachelor contention.
Speaker 2: He says they will have to lower the age. The
Speaker 2: age has got to be lower. Yes, I'm old, but
Speaker 2: I don't go out with a This is his quote
Speaker 2: a seventy two year old woman. He goes, when you're
Speaker 2: in your twenties, like Joey and Kelsey, you don't have
Speaker 2: any pot to pee in, you don't have a mortgage,
Speaker 2: you don't have a home. You you rent, you don't
Speaker 2: have a car, you take uber, you're into two jobs.
Speaker 2: You're trying to find an identity. I think we are
Speaker 2: now beyond his explanation as to why he would need
Speaker 2: younger women. But yeah, it was part of his ramble
Speaker 2: as to just like his standpoint on the show. But
Speaker 2: he goes like, I have my business, I have my home,
Speaker 2: I have my real estate, my friends, my kids, my
Speaker 2: health club, my restaurant. So I think with this show,
Speaker 2: so it's to sum it up. This is not a
Speaker 2: director Cloute anymore. But he's like, I'm gonna stay in Chicago,
Speaker 2: in the Chicago area. I think that it should be
Speaker 2: the Golden Bachelor of New York, the Golden Bachelor of
Speaker 2: the Bala, the Golden Bachelor of Miami, Dallas, blah blah
Speaker 2: blah blah. He said, you definitely can find me, like
Speaker 2: twenty five widows or divorces in this area because he
Speaker 2: just he's just trying to insulate that he would need
Speaker 2: to that the Golden usually prefers to stay closer to home. Totally.
Speaker 2: I want to know more about him needing younger women though,
Speaker 2: how much younger, sir.
Speaker 3: That'd be a good question to ask, how much younger?
Speaker 2: Well, we have to get him on or does this
Speaker 2: have his daughter back on and she'll tell.
Speaker 3: Us it's an interesting story. I can't you know. I'm glad.
Speaker 3: I mean, at least he's honest, right, at least he's honest.
Speaker 3: But I do think it probably eliminates him from becoming
Speaker 3: the Golden Bachelor.
Speaker 2: Because they're not going to do it, like, yeah, they're
Speaker 2: not necessarily going to be in their seventies, but they're
Speaker 2: going to be in their sixties, which is the norm,
Speaker 2: with Mark being the one exception to the norm as
Speaker 2: fifty seven. Uh, they've all been in their sixties. So Jude,
Speaker 2: if you don't want to date six year olds, I
Speaker 2: don't think you want to.
Speaker 3: Is it for you?
Speaker 2: It is not for you?
Speaker 3: For you? Hey, that's all the headlines we have for
Speaker 3: you today. Some good headlines out there, obviously, some of
Speaker 3: the takeaways as we're wishing Kelsey and Joey the best,
Speaker 3: and we believe that they are doing the best until
Speaker 3: they tell us differently. Also, I think Jen and Sasha
Speaker 3: are dating or having a lot of fun doing whatever
Speaker 3: they're doing.
Speaker 2: He stopped posting so much with Jonathan too. Yeah, who
Speaker 2: was her TikTok buddy there for a while.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I think there's more going on. And also congratulations
Speaker 3: to our two Golden Bachelor men who have found some
Speaker 3: type of relationship. Some would call it the bomb, other
Speaker 3: would call it love. Some would just say they're dating.
Speaker 3: I don't know exactly what's happening, but we're happy for them.
Speaker 3: So until next time, I've been Ben.
Speaker 2: I've been Ashley. See you guys.
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