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Speaker 4: Welcome to Patriots Unfiltered. But go into this game thinking

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Speaker 4: we're eleven and two. We're good, you know, and we

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Speaker 1: I don't know who you're trying to fight out or why?

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Speaker 2: And and the Oughts yeah and no chance. Okay, so

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Speaker 1: But Evan's right, why b YU only lost tex Texas?

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Speaker 1: They lost choice of Texas Tech?

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Speaker 2: We said we're gonna briefly talk about college.

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Speaker 1: I'm sorry every and I I'm sorry.

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Speaker 6: I'm so sorry. When we were talking about the Broncos

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Speaker 6: and the Raiders, I was joking. I was being facetious

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Speaker 6: for you. As they said. The amount of bitching that

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Speaker 6: included like, I'm not saying we're not crid of.

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Speaker 2: This, okay, and I imagine your timeline.

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Speaker 6: I say this with all the love in my heart.

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Speaker 6: Please go touch grass, like, go do something else? Do

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Speaker 6: you want the Patriots clinching scenarios this weekend.

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Speaker 2: Oh yes, please, sure, all right, they can clinch.

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Speaker 1: A playoff for its six different ways.

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Speaker 3: I don't care your punctuation, Jordan is absolutely terrible.

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Speaker 2: Okay. I don't know if you're doing that on purpose

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Speaker 3: The fact that I got through the email the way

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Speaker 2: All right, welcome the Patriots Unfiltered.

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Speaker 3: It is Wednesday here at to Let's Stadium, and Alex,

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Speaker 3: we need our show monitor on the board over here.

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Speaker 2: I can't see myself anyway. It is Alex.

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Speaker 1: Let's see how it all looks.

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Speaker 2: Alex in the booth.

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Speaker 3: It's Evan, it's Paul, it's me, it's Deuce, and we're

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Speaker 3: here talking about Patriots. It's uh, open the book day,

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Speaker 3: not turn the page. It's opened the book day on

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Speaker 7: Oh, my book's been open, friends. Oh yeah, I haven't

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Speaker 7: been grinding. Evan's even an eye on Baltimore too.

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Speaker 2: I think yes, Okay, you're already looking ahead. You're doing

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Speaker 2: the advanced scouting.

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Speaker 1: Watch the Little Ravens life.

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Speaker 3: So this weekend you want to not go to Gillette,

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Speaker 3: We'll send you to Baltimore to go watch that game.

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Speaker 6: I think it's a job. I'd actually really like doing

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Speaker 6: advanced scouting. Yeah, okay, how come on, I tell you that.

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Speaker 6: You say no, no, no, I'm not interested in because, like

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Speaker 6: I don't want to take myself that seriously. I don't

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Speaker 1: Why not? But I I that piece of it, I

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Speaker 2: I read your your you know what do you call it?

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Speaker 6: Yeah, I really Now. They do it to the end degree.

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Speaker 3: They told me they have a new nickname for me,

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Speaker 7: As someone who's lasting the picks against the spread, I

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Speaker 6: There's just it's such a different feel from yeah, you

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Speaker 1: Right against Buffaloe versus. You took it.

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Speaker 7: Yeah, it's just the situation of the first game. They

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Speaker 3: Den and and you know, not to make excuses, but

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Speaker 3: you're you're manned up and you know made you know,

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I just think it just means a lot in

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Speaker 8: You don't think know about how they win the game.

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Speaker 3: Like I know, but like and some and some overcome

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Speaker 7: Okay, yeah, I'm just trying to think back. I mean,

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Speaker 1: Lost thirty one to nothing to Buffalo and three.

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Speaker 8: I just think those are different situations because those were

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Speaker 1: You know, like once in a while, the Patriots got upset.

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Speaker 1: Ryan Patrick, he was like twenty six. There weren't very

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Speaker 6: They had some issues at the end of you know,

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Speaker 8: But I don't think there were a ton of close games.

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Speaker 1: Just a tiny bit of breaking news. Josh Allen AFC

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Speaker 2: Yeah that makes there you go, all right, okay.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, you asked more respect all the break gat makes

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Speaker 7: Well, I sure don't ever remember any of the games

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Speaker 7: Summers never good blue doors, you know, and that.

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Speaker 8: You know, there was a couple, you know, that little

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Speaker 1: They were I mean, they were formidable.

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Speaker 7: No, no, yeah, I think the one you might have

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Speaker 1: The Patriots are twelve and three, the Bills were ten

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Speaker 8: After that one, that was a rare time that they

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Speaker 8: You know, Salvage is split. The Patriots won both games

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Speaker 8: I was thinking about Patriots through the dynasty.

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Speaker 7: Bruski had the stroke and then they had to replace

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Speaker 2: Remember that they lost.

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Speaker 7: The Jets might have been I want to say the Jaggs,

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Speaker 1: That was Deion Branch still on that team or did

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Speaker 2: They lost Denver. They lost the lost Denver in Denver.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, that's why everybody.

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Speaker 6: I mean it was Brady's first loss in the playoffs

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Speaker 7: Bruskie came back, you know, and that was I remember

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Speaker 8: dam never missed when it counted.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, you know, it was a bad night, all right.

448
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Speaker 2: So I just, like I said, I need to ask

449
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Speaker 2: Paul what happened in two thousand and five?

450
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Speaker 1: You got, you got the whole panel, I know, I

451
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Speaker 1: just remember that.

452
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Speaker 6: I mean, they hadn't lost a playoff game with Brady yet,

453
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Speaker 6: So like my first memories are you know, beginning of

454
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Speaker 6: two thousand and two thousand and one time frame, So

455
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Speaker 6: like I had never experienced like losing a playoff game

456
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Speaker 6: before really as like a fan killing. And I just

457
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Speaker 6: remember being absolutely distraught after they lost to Denver that night.

458
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Speaker 1: Yeah me too, Me too.

459
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Speaker 7: It's like why I started blogging about the team. I

460
00:19:07,119 --> 00:19:08,640
Speaker 7: think just that loss against the guys.

461
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Speaker 8: Brady throws the pick in the end zone of all people,

462
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Speaker 8: Troy Brown, you know, muffs a punt and that led

463
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Speaker 8: to another turnover. And like I said, Adam missed a

464
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Speaker 8: field goal. It was just one of those nights like

465
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Speaker 8: this just ain't the patriotsy year.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I whooping it up in that press box. If

467
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Speaker 2: you remember, Paul.

468
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Speaker 8: Mike, remember what happened in the season, but you remember

469
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Speaker 8: the disrespect from the out of town press corps.

470
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Speaker 1: You got that right, That's that's Benjamin the.

471
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Speaker 2: Game I remember that. Well, now it's coming back, I know,

472
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Speaker 2: but now it comes back to me.

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Speaker 7: Yeah, Brabel had one hundred and five one hundred eight

474
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Speaker 7: combined tackles that year. I mean, clearly led the team

475
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Speaker 7: solo seventy three solo tackles. Next closest Tai Warn forty

476
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Speaker 7: had to play inside.

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Speaker 1: This, but he did it.

478
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Speaker 8: He did it well, and he did it really well.

479
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Speaker 2: Yeah, all right, So what were we talking about before?

480
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Speaker 2: I spread and spread and all.

481
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Speaker 6: One little thing about, uh, just housekeeping whatever the Uh.

482
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Speaker 6: The injuries are going to be interesting on both sides,

483
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Speaker 6: and you know, practice participation. The Bills got a bunch

484
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Speaker 6: of guys banged up. Uh, the Patriots had a bunch

485
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Speaker 6: of guys banged up before the bye, and then there's

486
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Speaker 6: no injury reports during the bye. So, uh, Robert Splane

487
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Speaker 6: has something going on that we still have unidentified. So

488
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Speaker 6: we'll find out later today what he's dealing with. But

489
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Speaker 6: he didn't play as much against the Giants as he

490
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Speaker 6: normally does. Then he was kind of limited not at practice,

491
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Speaker 6: like you know, not really participating the last couple of practices.

492
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Speaker 6: And then you know, Tonga school or you know, what

493
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Speaker 6: do you do on the offensive line of Jared Wilson

494
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Speaker 6: is healthy? Do you put him back in? You know,

495
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Speaker 6: like all these different types of things. And then Buffalo

496
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Speaker 6: it's Bernard and Spencer Brown. They're starting right tackle. Kinka

497
00:20:54,720 --> 00:20:57,879
Speaker 6: came back last week, but his seems kind of banged up.

498
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Speaker 6: Josh Palmer one of their receivers. So there's both teams

499
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Speaker 6: have some banged up guys that well they won't. Theay

500
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Speaker 6: on Sunday is Important.

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Speaker 1: Was like, a give it a go guy. I think

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Speaker 1: Glass he's not He's going to give.

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Speaker 10: It a go.

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Speaker 3: Well, but yeah, Knox And for those of you who

505
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Speaker 3: are into the pop culture, Cardi B has declared herself

506
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Speaker 3: a football b I won't use the crass word and

507
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Speaker 3: that she wants that Patriots smoke.

508
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Speaker 1: So really, where was this on her thing?

509
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Speaker 5: Whatever?

510
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Speaker 3: Yeah, so she's all in on the Patriots. Michael writes

511
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Speaker 3: in from Maine, Paul is one hundred percent correct. Fred

512
00:21:37,160 --> 00:21:39,800
Speaker 3: is off his rocker. There is not a single Patriots

513
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Speaker 3: fan on this planet that is dreading the game against Buffalo.

514
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Speaker 2: Every everybody can't flipping weight for this game. And if

515
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Speaker 2: we do lose, it's not the end of the world.

516
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Speaker 2: The show will go on.

517
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Speaker 3: So Fred go grab your brunts and get out your

518
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Speaker 3: snow blower and blow off some steam.

519
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Speaker 1: Okay, I have a small rant.

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Speaker 7: I get a smaller a little bit, a little bit

521
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Speaker 7: of ran towards you. No, it's funny, and then I

522
00:22:05,800 --> 00:22:07,960
Speaker 7: fully accept that. I fully accept, you know, being a

523
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Speaker 7: little like worried about what does it mean? But I

524
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Speaker 7: was just I was laughing thinking about it, because when

525
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Speaker 7: we talk about Paul shows like this is what it

526
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Speaker 7: is they live for, that they live for knowing all

527
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Speaker 7: these things, we know, all the talking points they're gonna

528
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Speaker 7: hit if they lose this Buffalo game.

529
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Speaker 1: So it's like, you know, one hand, you make fun

530
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Speaker 1: of those people, but.

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Speaker 7: At the same time, you need those people because those

532
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Speaker 7: are the ones who are gonna hate. Listen to felgroom

533
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Speaker 7: As after the game and be like, I don't want

534
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Speaker 7: to hear it.

535
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Speaker 1: Tells me you up, the schedule was soft and up.

536
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Speaker 1: Josh Allen still owns you, You know, like those are

537
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Speaker 1: the things that are beat into your head, like you

538
00:22:36,160 --> 00:22:39,159
Speaker 1: know it, right. I don't know how much that matters

539
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Speaker 1: to the people that actually matter, like the coach play.

540
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Speaker 1: Yeah yeah, yeah, No, it might a little bit.

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Speaker 6: Because like the soft schedule thing is a narrative and

542
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Speaker 6: if you go out into Buffalo and you're kind of

543
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Speaker 6: outclassed by the Bills on Sunday, then still you're it.

544
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Speaker 1: Just kind of proves them right, right, they could do that.

545
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Speaker 8: Yeah, But I agree with everything you guys are saying,

546
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Speaker 8: and I understand where Fred's coming from. I have a

547
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Speaker 8: feeling that this is going to be what we're talking

548
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Speaker 8: about on my show. Okay, So I do get it,

549
00:23:09,440 --> 00:23:11,960
Speaker 8: and you're right. I just would say, like, if you're

550
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Speaker 8: a Patriots fan and you believe, do you believe in

551
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Speaker 8: what you're seeing, then what do you care? Like why

552
00:23:20,480 --> 00:23:22,920
Speaker 8: this is the thing about Patriots fans I'll never get

553
00:23:23,480 --> 00:23:27,880
Speaker 8: is why they care so much about the noise. And yes,

554
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Speaker 8: Evan's right, they will have This will be perfect fodder

555
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Speaker 8: for Mike and Tony and everybody else that believes that

556
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Speaker 8: they're not as good as the record is right, right,

557
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Speaker 8: But if you believe they are as good as the record,

558
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Speaker 8: is you'll be disappointed that.

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Speaker 1: They lost, for sure. But maybe if you're but your

560
00:23:47,680 --> 00:23:52,920
Speaker 1: mind changes. But if you're what exactly what you ad

561
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Speaker 1: your mind changes with more information. If you're worried, that's

562
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Speaker 1: what you're worried about.

563
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Speaker 8: You're not worried about losing the game because of what

564
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Speaker 8: felgrit ma is are going to say, you're worried about

565
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Speaker 8: not being as good as you.

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Speaker 2: Think they are or being told right.

567
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Speaker 3: But Connor Aganster says of a topic, if we lose,

568
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Speaker 3: will people start to spiral what we all saying. The

569
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Speaker 3: hope is we're that we're playing meaningful football games in December.

570
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Speaker 3: News flash, that's what this is. We got what we

571
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Speaker 3: wish for.

572
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Speaker 2: Absolutely, Paul, you're the man.

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Speaker 7: Yeah, the colpost moved. Yeah, and that's and that's we're

574
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Speaker 7: sitting right now. And that's I think what is a

575
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Speaker 7: little maybe scary is the word. It's just like it's

576
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Speaker 7: all right there for the taking. Like, you win four games,

577
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Speaker 7: you're gonna win the division. There's a good chance maybe

578
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Speaker 7: you get a buye, you know, And so those thoughts

579
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Speaker 7: in the preseason of be great, they win eight games,

580
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Speaker 7: like eight nine games, that would be amazing. Now it's like, no,

581
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Speaker 7: they're already at eleven soust Accordingly, we've talked about the

582
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Speaker 7: opportunity that could exist this year with the teams that

583
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Speaker 7: are going to make the playoffs.

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Speaker 8: You imagine if they go thirteen and four, there will

585
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Speaker 8: be people and I think they will be right, that

586
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Speaker 8: will be disappointed. Yeah, yeah, yeah, But I think there's

587
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Speaker 8: I lose twice, like you lose Sunday like that.

588
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Speaker 1: Listen, we all know Buffalo's good. You guys upset it.

589
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Speaker 1: Buffalo's good.

590
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Speaker 8: They could come in the pictures, could play a really

591
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Speaker 8: good game on Sunday and lose because Buffalo just plays

592
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Speaker 8: a little bit better. But if you lose twice, that

593
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Speaker 8: means you lost to a team with a losing record

594
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Speaker 8: in one of the last three games. People are going

595
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Speaker 8: to be disappointed. Imagine that if you go thirteen and

596
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Speaker 8: four and when the people are going to be disappointed.

597
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Speaker 6: I just think there's also a little bit of like

598
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Speaker 6: twenty twenty one PTSD of like, yeah, sure they were

599
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Speaker 6: not in four in twenty twenty one. Then they lose

600
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Speaker 6: to Buffalo, then they they completely to me.

601
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Speaker 2: That's all about Matt Jones first, Drake Man, there is no.

602
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Speaker 6: But I think that that that's a pattern, right, that

603
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Speaker 6: you're just trying to avoid. But I agree, I think

604
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Speaker 6: that the difference is is like big picture, I'm with Paul,

605
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Speaker 6: like I have no concerns about where they're headed.

606
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Speaker 1: Big picture me too.

607
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Speaker 6: But in terms of the twenty twenty five season, losing

608
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Speaker 6: to Buffalo on Sunday does change You're you get a

609
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Speaker 6: little bit want to have a warm seat, You're a

610
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Speaker 6: little type.

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Speaker 8: But like, like, let's flip this to the Buffalo thing.

612
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Speaker 8: I was listening to my show yesterday because our good

613
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Speaker 8: friend Greg Greg was on. Greg Bdard was on, and

614
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Speaker 8: at the end they give him us all right, Greg

615
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Speaker 8: gave you know, give us, you know, sixty seconds on

616
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Speaker 8: the game. You know, I like the Patriots in this

617
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Speaker 8: spot coming off the bye I think they should get

618
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Speaker 8: some personnel back. And I just you know, Buffalo is

619
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Speaker 8: just not that good. And I just I just look

620
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Speaker 8: at it and I'm like, Okay, so Buffalo's nine and

621
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Speaker 8: four right now. And I'm not telling you that every

622
00:26:31,760 --> 00:26:34,200
Speaker 8: game has looked great, but a lot of their games

623
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Speaker 8: have looked they've looked kind of like vintage Buffalo. I mean, like,

624
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Speaker 8: you know, Caroline has given everybody fits to your point,

625
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Speaker 8: and they beat him like forty to nine on the road. Right,

626
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Speaker 8: So let's just not make this Buffalo team out to be,

627
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Speaker 8: you know, terrible underachievers.

628
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Speaker 1: Right, so they're nine and four.

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Speaker 8: The game that they played in week five in Buffalo,

630
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Speaker 8: let's just say for arguments, you can't do this, it's

631
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Speaker 8: a hypothetical. But let's just say the game unfold is

632
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Speaker 8: exactly the same way. And that play that Drake made

633
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Speaker 8: in the last drive when he almost shut it out,

634
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Speaker 8: let's say he got stripsacked and Buffalo wins twenty three

635
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Speaker 8: to twenty. So now Buffalo instead of being nine and

636
00:27:14,960 --> 00:27:17,200
Speaker 8: four is ten and three, and the Patriots instead of

637
00:27:17,240 --> 00:27:20,919
Speaker 8: being eleven and two is ten and three. Is Buffalo

638
00:27:21,040 --> 00:27:25,160
Speaker 8: now good because they made one play that they didn't

639
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Speaker 8: make in that game?

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Speaker 1: Is Buffalo? Does that make Buffalo a good team?

641
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Speaker 11: Now?

642
00:27:28,200 --> 00:27:29,000
Speaker 1: Buffalo is good?

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Speaker 8: You know what I'm saying, Like, that's the difference between

644
00:27:32,640 --> 00:27:36,880
Speaker 8: the teams right now is Drake made an unbelievable play

645
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Speaker 8: on the last drive to set up a field goal

646
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Speaker 8: and they won the game. That's the difference between Buffalo

647
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Speaker 8: being good or bad.

648
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Speaker 3: And I can pretty much guarante I can't buy that

649
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Speaker 3: I can pretty much guarantee that this game will come

650
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Speaker 3: down to a few plays, and.

651
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Speaker 8: If it does and the Patriots don't win it, I'm

652
00:27:52,280 --> 00:27:55,440
Speaker 8: not going to be shook as a Patriots fan. To

653
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Speaker 8: Evan's point, if Josh Allen does what he did in

654
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Speaker 8: twenty one and they don't make them punt and the

655
00:28:02,400 --> 00:28:06,600
Speaker 8: game's not overly competitive, that might change my opinion of

656
00:28:06,640 --> 00:28:09,359
Speaker 8: the twenty five Patriots. Not of Drake may and what's

657
00:28:09,400 --> 00:28:11,560
Speaker 8: going on with Mike Vabel and going forward, but the

658
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Speaker 8: twenty five. The twenty five outlook might change.

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Speaker 1: This is the worst Buffalo team that they will face

660
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Speaker 1: in quite some time.

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Speaker 2: I agree.

662
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Speaker 1: This is not vulnerable.

663
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Speaker 6: This is not as good as they've been, especially defensively. Offensively,

664
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Speaker 6: they're still lost.

665
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Speaker 8: The numbers are like better than the defense is in

666
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Speaker 8: my opinion. Yeah, I keep reading about their past defense

667
00:28:32,200 --> 00:28:34,639
Speaker 8: is ranked X or whatever, and I'm just like, I

668
00:28:34,720 --> 00:28:36,720
Speaker 8: watched them every weekend. Doesn't never look like they could

669
00:28:36,720 --> 00:28:37,359
Speaker 8: stop anybody.

670
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Speaker 6: Well, this is why things like DVOA help, because they

671
00:28:40,320 --> 00:28:42,880
Speaker 6: just for these types of things. They're seventeenth in past DVOA,

672
00:28:42,960 --> 00:28:45,680
Speaker 6: they're twenty second. This is the worst by DVA as

673
00:28:45,720 --> 00:28:48,800
Speaker 6: actually talking to Aaron about this, Aaron shats, this is

674
00:28:48,840 --> 00:28:52,600
Speaker 6: the worst Bill's defense of the McDermott era. That's nine seasons,

675
00:28:52,880 --> 00:28:57,400
Speaker 6: like you're going back to twenty seventeen. So they they're offensively,

676
00:28:57,520 --> 00:29:00,320
Speaker 6: they're top five and everything. They're top five and points

677
00:29:00,320 --> 00:29:03,640
Speaker 6: their top five in PA DVOA explosive player, like they're

678
00:29:03,680 --> 00:29:07,320
Speaker 6: they're a great offense, and he's great, Allen's great. Defensively,

679
00:29:07,400 --> 00:29:09,680
Speaker 6: this isn't as good as they've been. And I still

680
00:29:09,680 --> 00:29:12,520
Speaker 6: don't think there even though their offenses producing, I think

681
00:29:12,600 --> 00:29:14,080
Speaker 6: that's a lot because they have the m v P

682
00:29:14,280 --> 00:29:16,880
Speaker 6: playing quarterback, and I don't think their weapons are as

683
00:29:16,880 --> 00:29:17,720
Speaker 6: good as they have been.

684
00:29:18,000 --> 00:29:20,880
Speaker 8: No, and that they have been particularly hit with the

685
00:29:21,000 --> 00:29:23,560
Speaker 8: injuries on defense. Yeah, you know, and some of the

686
00:29:23,640 --> 00:29:25,840
Speaker 8: moves that they made, Like who's the guy from the

687
00:29:25,920 --> 00:29:27,640
Speaker 8: Rams that can never pronounce his name, that he came

688
00:29:27,720 --> 00:29:29,520
Speaker 8: and he played one great game against Kansas City and

689
00:29:29,560 --> 00:29:36,920
Speaker 8: blew out his achilles, that hate guy h oct Okay,

690
00:29:37,200 --> 00:29:38,960
Speaker 8: he was really good in that game when he blew

691
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Speaker 8: out his achilles.

692
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Speaker 1: He was really good for the Rams last year.

693
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Speaker 8: Yeah, like they were expected. That was a big move

694
00:29:43,520 --> 00:29:46,240
Speaker 8: that they made in the off season. He was suspended

695
00:29:46,400 --> 00:29:49,040
Speaker 8: when they got him, and then he comes back and

696
00:29:49,080 --> 00:29:52,040
Speaker 8: plays really well. He's out, you know, Milano is kind

697
00:29:52,080 --> 00:29:53,920
Speaker 8: of always hurt, so I'm not you know, but he's

698
00:29:53,960 --> 00:29:57,000
Speaker 8: been in that lineup at all of her excellent interior

699
00:29:57,080 --> 00:29:57,800
Speaker 8: defensive lineman.

700
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Speaker 1: He's been out for a while now.

701
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Speaker 6: Harston's there, first round pick or or least I forget

702
00:30:02,280 --> 00:30:04,160
Speaker 6: where exactly they picked him, but the corner and.

703
00:30:04,200 --> 00:30:06,840
Speaker 8: When he came back, he made an immediate impact for them.

704
00:30:07,600 --> 00:30:08,560
Speaker 8: He's missed some time.

705
00:30:09,640 --> 00:30:10,440
Speaker 1: Bernard Torell.

706
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Speaker 8: Bernard is a really active He's kind of like a

707
00:30:12,600 --> 00:30:15,920
Speaker 8: Robert Spallaine type linebacker, like a smaller athletic guy, but

708
00:30:16,000 --> 00:30:17,080
Speaker 8: he makes a lot of plays with them.

709
00:30:17,120 --> 00:30:18,400
Speaker 1: He's been in and out of the lineup.

710
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Speaker 2: Yeah.

711
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Speaker 6: Yeah, but this has been a really good specifically really

712
00:30:22,560 --> 00:30:25,680
Speaker 6: good pass defense in Buffalo for like the last this

713
00:30:25,760 --> 00:30:29,120
Speaker 6: whole run for the Bills, and they just they're they're

714
00:30:29,200 --> 00:30:31,600
Speaker 6: not as good there and they've had a lot of

715
00:30:31,720 --> 00:30:36,840
Speaker 6: trouble outside of Christian Benford, like they haven't really found

716
00:30:36,920 --> 00:30:39,280
Speaker 6: the right mix at safety.

717
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Speaker 1: White.

718
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Speaker 2: Yeah, what he was right?

719
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Speaker 5: Uh real?

720
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Speaker 7: Because did you guys hapen to see a keep to

721
00:30:45,480 --> 00:30:48,560
Speaker 7: leave it all yesterday online? I'm not saying that the

722
00:30:48,880 --> 00:30:50,800
Speaker 7: content like what he said I necessarily agree with. But

723
00:30:51,080 --> 00:30:52,840
Speaker 7: he was talking about the Texas, and you know, just

724
00:30:52,920 --> 00:30:55,120
Speaker 7: in that draw that he's got, and he's like, man,

725
00:30:55,240 --> 00:30:57,120
Speaker 7: tex is they gonna think let the fox throw and.

726
00:30:57,120 --> 00:31:01,160
Speaker 9: Get popped like he's just talking like McDaniel's seen it all.

727
00:31:02,040 --> 00:31:03,680
Speaker 7: They don't go that defense gonna get them all the

728
00:31:03,720 --> 00:31:05,520
Speaker 7: way to Foxville then they get him back, right.

729
00:31:05,760 --> 00:31:07,760
Speaker 1: It was just it was more about not the context

730
00:31:07,800 --> 00:31:08,960
Speaker 1: of what he said. It's just more the way he

731
00:31:09,040 --> 00:31:10,200
Speaker 1: says it. It's just hilarious.

732
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Speaker 8: Shouldn't that be what happens? Like the seventh seed if

733
00:31:12,680 --> 00:31:14,120
Speaker 8: they go to Foxborough is the two seed?

734
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Speaker 1: Should they?

735
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Speaker 2: They're playing better now than the beginning of the seed.

736
00:31:18,240 --> 00:31:20,560
Speaker 2: So I don't know. I have a lot of respect

737
00:31:20,600 --> 00:31:21,200
Speaker 2: for what Texans.

738
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Speaker 6: No, I think the Texans are going to be. I

739
00:31:23,280 --> 00:31:26,000
Speaker 6: think the Texans are going to win that division, and

740
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Speaker 6: I think that it's that could happen. I think the

741
00:31:27,760 --> 00:31:29,560
Speaker 6: Texans are going to win the division. The Bills will

742
00:31:29,560 --> 00:31:32,480
Speaker 6: be the five seed, Like everybody's worried right now because

743
00:31:32,800 --> 00:31:34,960
Speaker 6: the Bills are the Texans could be the seventh seed

744
00:31:35,040 --> 00:31:37,760
Speaker 6: playing the two Patriots set. You know here but I

745
00:31:37,800 --> 00:31:39,880
Speaker 6: think ultimately will be like Jacksonville or.

746
00:31:39,920 --> 00:31:41,680
Speaker 1: We're going to be the number of or whatever.

747
00:31:42,400 --> 00:31:44,640
Speaker 7: So I sorry, Fred, just one last thing, I just

748
00:31:44,840 --> 00:31:47,200
Speaker 7: I just it was a nice reminder that Josh McDaniels

749
00:31:47,240 --> 00:31:49,160
Speaker 7: has seen it all and so, you know, these good

750
00:31:49,200 --> 00:31:51,960
Speaker 7: defenses that we talk about. Sure, I respect these defenses,

751
00:31:52,000 --> 00:31:54,080
Speaker 7: but at the same time, you've got a guy that

752
00:31:54,200 --> 00:31:56,600
Speaker 7: has faced every kind of defense there is. And whether

753
00:31:56,680 --> 00:31:59,120
Speaker 7: or not they execute that's a different thing. But I

754
00:31:59,200 --> 00:32:00,800
Speaker 7: feel like, no matter who they play, Josh.

755
00:32:00,640 --> 00:32:01,720
Speaker 1: McDaniels will have a good plan.

756
00:32:02,160 --> 00:32:04,000
Speaker 3: Dan Wright, sin, is it fair to say if we

757
00:32:04,080 --> 00:32:06,720
Speaker 3: win this game we can categorize it as an official

758
00:32:06,920 --> 00:32:07,960
Speaker 3: we've arrived game?

759
00:32:08,760 --> 00:32:10,600
Speaker 2: Well, I think it depends on what you want the

760
00:32:10,680 --> 00:32:11,560
Speaker 2: destination to be.

761
00:32:12,680 --> 00:32:14,760
Speaker 7: I mean, yeah, I would say the destination is are

762
00:32:14,800 --> 00:32:16,560
Speaker 7: you going to be a consistent year in and year

763
00:32:16,600 --> 00:32:18,360
Speaker 7: out contender for the Super Bowl?

764
00:32:18,440 --> 00:32:20,280
Speaker 1: And I don't know if I go that far yet,

765
00:32:20,320 --> 00:32:21,280
Speaker 1: but mane.

766
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Speaker 9: Of that division and it is a great you know,

767
00:32:23,800 --> 00:32:25,680
Speaker 9: but you know you need to see some consistency to it.

768
00:32:25,760 --> 00:32:28,560
Speaker 7: There have been flashing the PAN teams, like, you know,

769
00:32:28,760 --> 00:32:31,440
Speaker 7: did Washington arrive last year or have they not arrived?

770
00:32:31,520 --> 00:32:32,840
Speaker 1: Like I mean, I still think they're, you know, a

771
00:32:32,880 --> 00:32:33,800
Speaker 1: good team when they're healthy.

772
00:32:33,880 --> 00:32:37,000
Speaker 7: But you know, it's just to do what the Patriots

773
00:32:37,040 --> 00:32:40,080
Speaker 7: did in the twenty and twenty tens of consistently every year.

774
00:32:40,200 --> 00:32:42,200
Speaker 1: I mean, that's nobody tells that. You know, if you

775
00:32:42,240 --> 00:32:44,800
Speaker 1: could get on a five year run where you're consistently

776
00:32:44,920 --> 00:32:47,480
Speaker 1: that's great. You know, that's that's actually.

777
00:32:47,280 --> 00:32:49,680
Speaker 2: Win the game for me. It's where we continue to

778
00:32:49,760 --> 00:32:51,760
Speaker 2: be on the road to arriving.

779
00:32:52,000 --> 00:32:54,600
Speaker 1: You know, Like, I don't Washington didn't win their division,

780
00:32:54,720 --> 00:32:56,320
Speaker 1: right for this year, You've arrived.

781
00:32:57,040 --> 00:32:58,000
Speaker 2: We've already arrived.

782
00:32:58,000 --> 00:33:00,840
Speaker 8: I don't know what it says going for you know,

783
00:33:01,240 --> 00:33:03,880
Speaker 8: but I like you guys have said, I I mean,

784
00:33:04,000 --> 00:33:06,120
Speaker 8: I don't know how you cannot be optimistic about them.

785
00:33:06,240 --> 00:33:08,880
Speaker 2: Yeah, I already believe, right, just get the title.

786
00:33:09,440 --> 00:33:11,120
Speaker 7: You know, you guys say, oh, it's it's kind of

787
00:33:11,280 --> 00:33:14,120
Speaker 7: like gonna happen for sure. I just I need to

788
00:33:14,160 --> 00:33:16,480
Speaker 7: see it, like that needs to be get to the playoffs.

789
00:33:16,520 --> 00:33:18,200
Speaker 7: We'll see what happens. But like, just to come out

790
00:33:18,240 --> 00:33:20,880
Speaker 7: of this season with a division title, I think that's

791
00:33:21,040 --> 00:33:22,880
Speaker 7: just a great thing to fall back on.

792
00:33:23,000 --> 00:33:26,120
Speaker 8: You. I can't imagine how I would try to console

793
00:33:26,160 --> 00:33:28,920
Speaker 8: you if something happens in disaster strikes and they somehow

794
00:33:29,000 --> 00:33:30,480
Speaker 8: find a way to lose three of their last four.

795
00:33:30,520 --> 00:33:32,400
Speaker 7: H oh, I know, but but like, but but but

796
00:33:32,960 --> 00:33:35,680
Speaker 7: off the let me play wimpy two right now, Like

797
00:33:36,640 --> 00:33:39,800
Speaker 7: loose to Lamar Jackson and Tua, who you've only beaten once.

798
00:33:40,040 --> 00:33:42,720
Speaker 1: I mean, it's not crazy to think that they could

799
00:33:42,800 --> 00:33:46,720
Speaker 1: possibly lose. They're lucky that the Baltimore game doesn't really matter.

800
00:33:46,840 --> 00:33:48,840
Speaker 8: Yeah, I look at Baltimore right now. I say something

801
00:33:48,880 --> 00:33:51,200
Speaker 8: crazy has to happen for you lose that. But both

802
00:33:51,240 --> 00:33:52,080
Speaker 8: the way they look at.

803
00:33:52,040 --> 00:33:54,680
Speaker 6: The game itself doesn't actually really matter, Like if they

804
00:33:54,760 --> 00:33:56,440
Speaker 6: lose to the Bills on Sunday, the only games that

805
00:33:56,520 --> 00:33:58,080
Speaker 6: matter are the two division games at the end of

806
00:33:58,120 --> 00:34:00,560
Speaker 6: the year. If you all you got to do is

807
00:34:00,600 --> 00:34:02,800
Speaker 6: beat the Jets and the Dolphins and you win the

808
00:34:02,880 --> 00:34:04,680
Speaker 6: division even if you lose to Baltimore.

809
00:34:05,680 --> 00:34:06,680
Speaker 1: So true.

810
00:34:06,960 --> 00:34:10,400
Speaker 6: Like I'm with you with Dolphins though, because the Dolphins

811
00:34:10,400 --> 00:34:13,200
Speaker 6: are frisky, they're six and seven, they're in it.

812
00:34:13,400 --> 00:34:15,880
Speaker 1: Yeah yeah, if they if that week, see what it

813
00:34:15,920 --> 00:34:16,919
Speaker 1: looks like after this week.

814
00:34:17,040 --> 00:34:19,920
Speaker 6: If Week eighteen is a meaningful game for both teams,

815
00:34:20,280 --> 00:34:23,879
Speaker 6: and the Dolphins have something to play for in that game, right,

816
00:34:24,000 --> 00:34:26,000
Speaker 6: and that that becomes a big spot and you'd have.

817
00:34:26,040 --> 00:34:28,400
Speaker 9: To lose two divisional games at home, which.

818
00:34:28,320 --> 00:34:32,640
Speaker 1: Is you know, it's easy to do. I mean there's games.

819
00:34:32,680 --> 00:34:34,440
Speaker 1: I mean, there are always battles.

820
00:34:34,560 --> 00:34:35,919
Speaker 6: You just don't want it to be a big spot

821
00:34:35,960 --> 00:34:38,959
Speaker 6: against Miami. No, you've seen you've seen good Patriots teams,

822
00:34:39,000 --> 00:34:41,960
Speaker 6: I mean twenty nineteen. Yeah, opportunity and lay it, lay

823
00:34:42,000 --> 00:34:43,000
Speaker 6: a turn in the last game.

824
00:34:43,040 --> 00:34:45,640
Speaker 7: I mean, it's I mean, I don't think you win

825
00:34:45,719 --> 00:34:47,680
Speaker 7: that one game over to and you know, but it's

826
00:34:47,719 --> 00:34:48,560
Speaker 7: like a reminder, like.

827
00:34:48,640 --> 00:34:50,640
Speaker 1: That's the only time you've beaten them. I don't know,

828
00:34:50,880 --> 00:34:52,040
Speaker 1: we'll see what that team looks like.

829
00:34:52,080 --> 00:34:52,400
Speaker 2: I don't know.

830
00:34:53,160 --> 00:34:54,439
Speaker 1: I feel like the Jets. I'm not worried.

831
00:34:54,480 --> 00:34:55,880
Speaker 7: I feel like the about the Jets, the way you

832
00:34:55,920 --> 00:34:58,799
Speaker 7: feel the right, like there's no way, but well, if

833
00:34:58,840 --> 00:34:59,680
Speaker 7: I still get PTSD.

834
00:34:59,840 --> 00:35:04,240
Speaker 1: Just looking at the Ravens uniforms, they're good. The Jets

835
00:35:04,320 --> 00:35:07,640
Speaker 1: with Brady, I can lose to the Ravens, okay, but.

836
00:35:07,680 --> 00:35:08,640
Speaker 2: It's all part of the thing.

837
00:35:08,719 --> 00:35:08,839
Speaker 12: Though.

838
00:35:08,920 --> 00:35:11,319
Speaker 9: It's like you lose one, then you lose a game,

839
00:35:11,440 --> 00:35:11,960
Speaker 9: it didn't matter.

840
00:35:12,080 --> 00:35:13,080
Speaker 1: Well, you lost two in a row.

841
00:35:13,200 --> 00:35:15,759
Speaker 8: Now you got to come back a couple on the

842
00:35:15,840 --> 00:35:19,160
Speaker 8: road games in twenty one to like Indianapolis and Buffalo,

843
00:35:19,239 --> 00:35:22,239
Speaker 8: and you're like, oh, that's okay, continue, and then you

844
00:35:22,360 --> 00:35:23,960
Speaker 8: lost the game you didn't expect to lose.

845
00:35:24,360 --> 00:35:28,359
Speaker 6: And also it also hurts that the Patriots last four

846
00:35:28,440 --> 00:35:31,920
Speaker 6: games are all in the AFC, so the Bills are

847
00:35:32,160 --> 00:35:34,560
Speaker 6: Their toughest game other than the Patriots is the Eagles,

848
00:35:34,600 --> 00:35:37,440
Speaker 6: but it's an NFC game, so that's not going to

849
00:35:37,440 --> 00:35:40,080
Speaker 6: be part of the time, and that's not tough part

850
00:35:40,120 --> 00:35:42,640
Speaker 6: of the tie breaker. So it goes head to head,

851
00:35:43,080 --> 00:35:45,520
Speaker 6: then it will go division record, and then I believe

852
00:35:45,560 --> 00:35:46,560
Speaker 6: it goes conference record.

853
00:35:46,680 --> 00:35:49,920
Speaker 1: I actually think that for the division. I think that's

854
00:35:50,000 --> 00:35:53,839
Speaker 1: the order. There's a conference before Common. I don't those

855
00:35:53,880 --> 00:35:55,759
Speaker 1: two are. I don't know which way those two.

856
00:35:55,840 --> 00:35:58,399
Speaker 2: Any Common comes first, but I don't know. I'm not sure.

857
00:35:58,840 --> 00:36:01,120
Speaker 3: All Right, A five five past five hundred is the

858
00:36:01,200 --> 00:36:03,360
Speaker 3: hot line. Let's see what you have to say. Mark's

859
00:36:03,400 --> 00:36:04,799
Speaker 3: in Connecticut. What's up, Mark?

860
00:36:06,120 --> 00:36:09,160
Speaker 13: Hey, guys, thanks for taking my call. I'm super excited.

861
00:36:09,200 --> 00:36:11,320
Speaker 14: I'm actually going to be at the game this weekend,

862
00:36:11,719 --> 00:36:12,759
Speaker 14: and I just.

863
00:36:12,880 --> 00:36:17,560
Speaker 13: Want to see us dominate as Buffalo Bills. The question

864
00:36:17,680 --> 00:36:19,120
Speaker 13: that I have is Milton Williams.

865
00:36:19,200 --> 00:36:22,640
Speaker 15: Do we know what his like re have processes right now?

866
00:36:22,800 --> 00:36:23,720
Speaker 3: Like how's he looking?

867
00:36:24,239 --> 00:36:27,560
Speaker 13: And is he eligible to return for the Baltimore game?

868
00:36:27,760 --> 00:36:28,880
Speaker 1: No, no, Miami.

869
00:36:29,000 --> 00:36:32,040
Speaker 7: He walked through the locker room on Monday, looked normal,

870
00:36:32,160 --> 00:36:34,080
Speaker 7: nothing on his leg or anything like that. I mean,

871
00:36:34,320 --> 00:36:36,400
Speaker 7: you know, he's just walking, so I mean high ankle sprain.

872
00:36:36,440 --> 00:36:38,600
Speaker 7: I don't think you'd really even notice anything really anyway,

873
00:36:38,640 --> 00:36:40,319
Speaker 7: but for what it's worked, he's in there.

874
00:36:40,600 --> 00:36:42,240
Speaker 1: He looked like he's rehaving.

875
00:36:42,360 --> 00:36:45,880
Speaker 6: Yeah, they said, I think when the eligible Iami Miami

876
00:36:46,000 --> 00:36:46,719
Speaker 6: week seventeen.

877
00:36:47,480 --> 00:36:53,840
Speaker 1: No, sorry, he's second Miami for Campbell is Miami. Yeah, yeah, gotcha.

878
00:36:54,239 --> 00:36:55,759
Speaker 14: Awesome, Thanks guys, Love you guys.

879
00:36:56,000 --> 00:36:57,000
Speaker 2: Okay, thank you too.

880
00:36:57,320 --> 00:36:57,520
Speaker 5: Yeah.

881
00:36:58,120 --> 00:36:59,880
Speaker 6: You know what I'll say, like when you go in

882
00:37:00,120 --> 00:37:02,520
Speaker 6: locker room and people are like, is he limp? Like

883
00:37:02,600 --> 00:37:03,960
Speaker 6: you have to analyze his limp?

884
00:37:04,200 --> 00:37:06,960
Speaker 1: And I did that the other day, watch watch everybody,

885
00:37:08,560 --> 00:37:09,160
Speaker 1: and like I just.

886
00:37:09,239 --> 00:37:11,160
Speaker 6: Have decided that, Like I'm not a doctor, like I

887
00:37:11,200 --> 00:37:13,400
Speaker 6: don't like all these guys. First of all, they're all

888
00:37:13,440 --> 00:37:15,880
Speaker 6: football players, so they all limp, Like all of them

889
00:37:15,960 --> 00:37:19,080
Speaker 6: have a little bit like a weird gait, especially the

890
00:37:19,200 --> 00:37:21,719
Speaker 6: veteran guys because they've been playing for so long. So

891
00:37:21,920 --> 00:37:25,160
Speaker 6: like I'm not going to like micro analyze like his

892
00:37:25,520 --> 00:37:27,120
Speaker 6: his gait, like how is he limping?

893
00:37:27,239 --> 00:37:27,360
Speaker 5: Is he?

894
00:37:27,440 --> 00:37:27,800
Speaker 2: I don't know.

895
00:37:27,920 --> 00:37:29,400
Speaker 7: I did it with Will Campbell when I saw him

896
00:37:29,440 --> 00:37:31,719
Speaker 7: in the locker, so I'm like, he looks fine, get

897
00:37:31,800 --> 00:37:32,200
Speaker 7: him out there.

898
00:37:32,320 --> 00:37:34,279
Speaker 1: The one guy I will say that looked fine was

899
00:37:34,360 --> 00:37:34,960
Speaker 1: Jared Wilson.

900
00:37:35,320 --> 00:37:37,200
Speaker 6: Jared Wilson as soon as we saw him after the

901
00:37:37,280 --> 00:37:39,879
Speaker 6: injury scare in Cincinnati, he looked fine.

902
00:37:40,560 --> 00:37:42,440
Speaker 1: I the other two I don't know, but let's talk

903
00:37:42,480 --> 00:37:43,360
Speaker 1: we talk about that for a second.

904
00:37:43,480 --> 00:37:45,280
Speaker 7: Just it's an interesting thing to me of a rookie

905
00:37:45,440 --> 00:37:47,720
Speaker 7: left guard who you know clearly was having a good season,

906
00:37:47,800 --> 00:37:50,000
Speaker 7: but you know, Ben Brown a little bit more experienced.

907
00:37:50,040 --> 00:37:52,800
Speaker 1: You've got Vederian Low. Do you put any consideration to that,

908
00:37:53,320 --> 00:37:55,560
Speaker 1: you know? Mix, Yeah, I don't know.

909
00:37:55,680 --> 00:37:58,640
Speaker 9: Maybe I just like he's a little more Again, I'm

910
00:37:58,680 --> 00:37:59,040
Speaker 9: not sure.

911
00:37:59,440 --> 00:38:02,480
Speaker 6: It's a question to me of like is it Jared

912
00:38:02,520 --> 00:38:05,440
Speaker 6: Wilson at eighty five percent versus Ben Brown at one

913
00:38:05,480 --> 00:38:09,279
Speaker 6: hundred or are they both fully healthy? Because I might

914
00:38:09,400 --> 00:38:11,960
Speaker 6: keep Ben Brown in there if Jared Wilson's less than

915
00:38:11,960 --> 00:38:12,600
Speaker 6: one hundred percent.

916
00:38:12,719 --> 00:38:14,680
Speaker 9: Is there anything to be said though for low being

917
00:38:14,719 --> 00:38:15,000
Speaker 9: out there?

918
00:38:15,000 --> 00:38:15,680
Speaker 1: You know, Like, I don't know.

919
00:38:16,080 --> 00:38:19,320
Speaker 7: I'm just saying, like Ben Brown a little bit more experienced,

920
00:38:19,400 --> 00:38:21,200
Speaker 7: Like is there any kind of connective tissue that you

921
00:38:21,200 --> 00:38:23,319
Speaker 7: would rather have a little bit more experienced guy between

922
00:38:23,360 --> 00:38:24,160
Speaker 7: the center and the tackle?

923
00:38:24,640 --> 00:38:27,480
Speaker 1: Just I don't know, because decision.

924
00:38:27,200 --> 00:38:31,640
Speaker 6: They didn't if Brown and low were like the backups

925
00:38:31,880 --> 00:38:34,279
Speaker 6: on that side all summer and they had all these

926
00:38:34,360 --> 00:38:38,160
Speaker 6: reps in the book, but they didn't because Vederian Lowe

927
00:38:38,239 --> 00:38:40,480
Speaker 6: was hurt for a lot of training camp. So I

928
00:38:40,840 --> 00:38:43,880
Speaker 6: remember talking to Viderian Lowe last week or the week before,

929
00:38:44,239 --> 00:38:46,359
Speaker 6: and he was like, up until this week, we really

930
00:38:46,440 --> 00:38:49,000
Speaker 6: haven't practiced together. Yeah, So like I don't think there's

931
00:38:49,080 --> 00:38:54,080
Speaker 6: any real like chemistry advantage necessarily, I just look at

932
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Speaker 6: it more.

933
00:38:55,360 --> 00:38:57,120
Speaker 1: I don't know if Jared Wilson is at.

934
00:38:57,040 --> 00:38:59,880
Speaker 6: That point where like it's not like it's Quentin Neilson

935
00:39:00,000 --> 00:39:02,160
Speaker 6: where it's like, okay, at eighty five percent, yeah we're putting,

936
00:39:02,480 --> 00:39:04,600
Speaker 6: we're putting your experience.

937
00:39:04,680 --> 00:39:04,919
Speaker 1: Point.

938
00:39:05,000 --> 00:39:07,399
Speaker 8: Brown doesn't have much experience playing guard.

939
00:39:07,560 --> 00:39:09,440
Speaker 2: Yeah that's fair, you know, Yeah, I.

940
00:39:09,440 --> 00:39:10,560
Speaker 1: Think it's an interesting question.

941
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Speaker 7: Yeah, I just wonder how much goes into it of

942
00:39:13,120 --> 00:39:15,080
Speaker 7: I mean, you're right for Wilson's one hundred percent.

943
00:39:15,120 --> 00:39:17,560
Speaker 8: He probably goes, I mean there's an argument to be

944
00:39:17,640 --> 00:39:19,880
Speaker 8: made that if they think that Ben Brown's better and

945
00:39:20,040 --> 00:39:22,520
Speaker 8: maybe they wait a little bit longer.

946
00:39:22,719 --> 00:39:25,799
Speaker 2: Yeah, I think that you could have two healthy guys

947
00:39:25,840 --> 00:39:26,400
Speaker 2: for the playoffs.

948
00:39:26,400 --> 00:39:27,360
Speaker 1: You could make an argument for that.

949
00:39:27,760 --> 00:39:32,080
Speaker 8: Tevan's probably right about the status for Wilson will determine.

950
00:39:31,719 --> 00:39:32,960
Speaker 2: It Ken las Vegas.

951
00:39:33,000 --> 00:39:36,520
Speaker 3: He says on December third, prior to the Buffalo Cincinnati game,

952
00:39:36,840 --> 00:39:39,759
Speaker 3: the Patriots were one and a half point favorites versus

953
00:39:39,760 --> 00:39:43,120
Speaker 3: Buffalo this week, and after the Buffalo Cincinnati game, the

954
00:39:43,200 --> 00:39:46,280
Speaker 3: line switched to Buffalo as a one point five point favorite.

955
00:39:46,280 --> 00:39:50,280
Speaker 3: According to Google ai quote, the initial odds saw money

956
00:39:50,360 --> 00:39:54,000
Speaker 3: pour in on the Bills flipping the line to favorite Buffalo.

957
00:39:54,320 --> 00:39:58,800
Speaker 8: Yeah, I saw, I definitely Last week saw that the

958
00:40:00,080 --> 00:40:03,239
Speaker 8: the future line had the Patriots favored, and I was

959
00:40:03,360 --> 00:40:07,120
Speaker 8: very surprised that the Patriots didn't play and the Bills

960
00:40:07,239 --> 00:40:10,759
Speaker 8: kind of struggled, sorry and survived have well.

961
00:40:11,239 --> 00:40:14,080
Speaker 1: So the future line was before the Bengals game. That

962
00:40:14,120 --> 00:40:16,920
Speaker 1: would be just before the Bengals game, So that was

963
00:40:16,960 --> 00:40:20,160
Speaker 1: coming off the Steelers game. For the right, but this

964
00:40:20,320 --> 00:40:22,160
Speaker 1: is like, what do you say, December third?

965
00:40:22,440 --> 00:40:26,839
Speaker 8: Yeah, yeah, so like pretty recent, like within a week, right.

966
00:40:26,960 --> 00:40:30,000
Speaker 6: I just was wondering which games the future line was

967
00:40:30,400 --> 00:40:32,560
Speaker 6: because like if you that line comes out after like

968
00:40:32,640 --> 00:40:35,160
Speaker 6: the Houston game for Buffalo, then I could understand thinking

969
00:40:35,239 --> 00:40:39,000
Speaker 6: that Buffalo is in trouble. I mean, they played, they

970
00:40:39,120 --> 00:40:40,480
Speaker 6: ran the ball really well again.

971
00:40:40,280 --> 00:40:42,319
Speaker 8: But it is it's all about the analytics that they

972
00:40:42,400 --> 00:40:46,560
Speaker 8: do and then it moves based on the money. And

973
00:40:47,080 --> 00:40:50,000
Speaker 8: I don't think that might be right what he said.

974
00:40:50,040 --> 00:40:52,120
Speaker 8: I don't think this significant money coming in on a

975
00:40:52,200 --> 00:40:57,360
Speaker 8: game to move a line like two weeks ahead of time, Like,

976
00:40:57,520 --> 00:41:00,360
Speaker 8: I don't. I don't think there's this significant line movement

977
00:41:00,400 --> 00:41:04,520
Speaker 8: based on that. I think it's weirdly to me, it's based.

978
00:41:04,280 --> 00:41:08,960
Speaker 2: On two weeks. He said. After the Cincinnati game the

979
00:41:09,080 --> 00:41:11,160
Speaker 2: money poured in, but the.

980
00:41:11,160 --> 00:41:14,759
Speaker 8: First line after the Cincinnati game had the Patriots underdogs, right.

981
00:41:14,840 --> 00:41:16,880
Speaker 8: I don't think the significant money coming in on the

982
00:41:17,000 --> 00:41:20,160
Speaker 8: Bills like in the immediate aftermath of the Bengals game.

983
00:41:20,320 --> 00:41:21,640
Speaker 2: That's what he said, That's what google.

984
00:41:22,520 --> 00:41:25,960
Speaker 6: But I could see how they were all in agreement

985
00:41:26,120 --> 00:41:31,080
Speaker 6: after the Texans Steelers game, where the Bills dominated the Steelers,

986
00:41:31,120 --> 00:41:32,319
Speaker 6: but it wasn't a flashy win.

987
00:41:32,760 --> 00:41:34,840
Speaker 1: They ran the ball forty five times, but you.

988
00:41:34,840 --> 00:41:37,080
Speaker 8: Could say, oh, you know, the defense shut him down

989
00:41:37,120 --> 00:41:39,399
Speaker 8: the running game, they kept the ball away for yeah,

990
00:41:39,440 --> 00:41:41,040
Speaker 8: but that didn't happen in the Cincinnati game.

991
00:41:41,120 --> 00:41:42,280
Speaker 1: The Cincinnati game was survival.

992
00:41:42,640 --> 00:41:45,280
Speaker 6: But the Cincinnati game, though, I think what I'm getting

993
00:41:45,280 --> 00:41:47,480
Speaker 6: at is like I could see the line moving because

994
00:41:47,480 --> 00:41:50,000
Speaker 6: Alan played like a near perfect game against the Bengals.

995
00:41:50,520 --> 00:41:51,640
Speaker 1: I mean, he was just awesome.

996
00:41:52,040 --> 00:41:55,080
Speaker 6: So if you watch that game and you see Josh

997
00:41:55,160 --> 00:41:59,440
Speaker 6: Allen put up like basically a perfect game against the Bengals,

998
00:41:59,520 --> 00:42:01,640
Speaker 6: you might think yourself, all right, maybe we need to

999
00:42:01,640 --> 00:42:03,720
Speaker 6: give the Bills some more respect.

1000
00:42:03,880 --> 00:42:05,520
Speaker 1: I don't know about the money side of it. That's

1001
00:42:05,560 --> 00:42:07,799
Speaker 1: what I would do. You know how I would react.

1002
00:42:07,560 --> 00:42:11,279
Speaker 2: To Williams in Montreal. Hey, william Hi.

1003
00:42:11,880 --> 00:42:15,960
Speaker 16: Last time I called, we were playing Buffalo, and I asked,

1004
00:42:16,280 --> 00:42:19,840
Speaker 16: if Drake Man goes into Buffalo and I'll duels Josh Allen,

1005
00:42:19,920 --> 00:42:21,239
Speaker 16: will he be considered m v P.

1006
00:42:23,160 --> 00:42:23,399
Speaker 5: Paul.

1007
00:42:23,640 --> 00:42:26,879
Speaker 16: You proceeded to say, no, he won't. It's too early

1008
00:42:26,960 --> 00:42:29,040
Speaker 16: into the season and nobody's looking at it too. And

1009
00:42:29,120 --> 00:42:33,839
Speaker 16: two team and their quarterback as MVP front runner now

1010
00:42:34,360 --> 00:42:37,719
Speaker 16: that Josh Allen is coming to Gelt Stadium, and like

1011
00:42:37,840 --> 00:42:42,320
Speaker 16: how Fred likes to say, we got our guy. I

1012
00:42:42,440 --> 00:42:48,719
Speaker 16: mean he outplays Allen again? Is he the clear uh?

1013
00:42:49,480 --> 00:42:50,600
Speaker 16: MVP front runner?

1014
00:42:50,800 --> 00:42:53,919
Speaker 2: Thank you and William. Are there a lot of Bills

1015
00:42:53,960 --> 00:42:54,840
Speaker 2: fans in Montreal?

1016
00:42:57,040 --> 00:43:01,480
Speaker 16: I mean, my, my, I have a few people I

1017
00:43:01,640 --> 00:43:06,480
Speaker 16: know that like Buffalo. Definitely not the closest people I'm with,

1018
00:43:07,080 --> 00:43:15,440
Speaker 16: But I try avoiding those people because friends are crazy. No,

1019
00:43:16,360 --> 00:43:20,680
Speaker 16: the majority of them, like Buffalo. There's a few Patriots

1020
00:43:20,719 --> 00:43:23,560
Speaker 16: signs here in Montreal. There's forty nine Ers fans. There's

1021
00:43:23,600 --> 00:43:24,720
Speaker 16: a bunch of bands everywhere.

1022
00:43:24,840 --> 00:43:27,880
Speaker 3: Okay, I'm just curious because I think the Bills like

1023
00:43:27,960 --> 00:43:31,880
Speaker 3: to fashion themselves as the team of Montreal and Toronto.

1024
00:43:33,880 --> 00:43:34,919
Speaker 1: Right across the Yeah.

1025
00:43:36,600 --> 00:43:41,040
Speaker 8: Yeah, I would say that the and I totally remember saying, no,

1026
00:43:41,200 --> 00:43:43,279
Speaker 8: that's not going to you know, like one game. But

1027
00:43:43,400 --> 00:43:47,440
Speaker 8: I would say that if Drake May didn't do what

1028
00:43:47,520 --> 00:43:49,400
Speaker 8: he did in every other game, he wouldn't be an

1029
00:43:49,480 --> 00:43:53,759
Speaker 8: MVP candidate based on one game in primetime. Now, he

1030
00:43:54,239 --> 00:43:56,920
Speaker 8: absolutely got on the radar that night, and the Patriots

1031
00:43:56,960 --> 00:43:59,320
Speaker 8: got on the radar that night with their performance. But

1032
00:43:59,440 --> 00:44:01,600
Speaker 8: Drake made that did it every week for the next

1033
00:44:01,840 --> 00:44:04,120
Speaker 8: nine weeks or whatever it was after that too, So

1034
00:44:04,640 --> 00:44:07,080
Speaker 8: that's why he's an MVP candidate. And if he does

1035
00:44:07,120 --> 00:44:10,280
Speaker 8: it again Sunday, I need to know what Matthew Stafford

1036
00:44:10,320 --> 00:44:12,000
Speaker 8: does because I don't really look at Josh Allen. I

1037
00:44:12,080 --> 00:44:14,279
Speaker 8: know Josh is probably creeping up.

1038
00:44:14,400 --> 00:44:14,839
Speaker 1: Is he third?

1039
00:44:14,960 --> 00:44:15,439
Speaker 2: Now fourth?

1040
00:44:15,640 --> 00:44:16,160
Speaker 1: He's fourth?

1041
00:44:16,400 --> 00:44:18,480
Speaker 8: Okay, so I know he's entering the pitcher. But to me,

1042
00:44:18,560 --> 00:44:20,720
Speaker 8: this is a two horse race. It's May and it's Stafford.

1043
00:44:20,840 --> 00:44:24,080
Speaker 6: The lines would agree with you, minus one eighty for Stafford,

1044
00:44:24,160 --> 00:44:25,239
Speaker 6: minus two ten for May.

1045
00:44:25,560 --> 00:44:27,160
Speaker 1: Then everybody else's You know.

1046
00:44:27,440 --> 00:44:30,480
Speaker 8: Does Stafford have another game like he did Sunday against

1047
00:44:30,520 --> 00:44:32,960
Speaker 8: the Cardinals where he's sort of on the sideline for

1048
00:44:33,000 --> 00:44:36,200
Speaker 8: the fourth quarter because he decimated Arizona so much? Or

1049
00:44:36,320 --> 00:44:39,640
Speaker 8: is it like the week before that in Carolina where

1050
00:44:40,320 --> 00:44:42,239
Speaker 8: for the first time in like ten weeks, he turned

1051
00:44:42,239 --> 00:44:43,399
Speaker 8: the ball over a couple of times.

1052
00:44:43,560 --> 00:44:45,759
Speaker 6: Yeah, I would say that these next two weeks, though,

1053
00:44:46,000 --> 00:44:48,160
Speaker 6: you know, Buffalo and Baltimore in prime time.

1054
00:44:48,320 --> 00:44:48,480
Speaker 5: Yep.

1055
00:44:48,600 --> 00:44:50,799
Speaker 6: If Drake May is two to zero and has two

1056
00:44:50,880 --> 00:44:54,200
Speaker 6: really good games against Alan Lamar, it's gonna be hard

1057
00:44:54,400 --> 00:44:57,319
Speaker 6: to not see him as the MVP like that, I.

1058
00:44:57,520 --> 00:44:59,839
Speaker 8: Think it's it's going to be up to what Stafford does.

1059
00:45:00,320 --> 00:45:01,800
Speaker 8: I think that's part of it. I don't think that

1060
00:45:01,920 --> 00:45:02,680
Speaker 8: May can just win.

1061
00:45:02,719 --> 00:45:04,520
Speaker 6: I just want to you know, I'm big on the

1062
00:45:04,600 --> 00:45:06,640
Speaker 6: MVP thing. I know I probably care about it too much.

1063
00:45:06,960 --> 00:45:10,160
Speaker 6: I just like I hope that voters are consistent with it.

1064
00:45:10,719 --> 00:45:13,439
Speaker 6: I do because if you voted for Josh Allen last

1065
00:45:13,520 --> 00:45:16,600
Speaker 6: year over Lamar, then you should be voting for Drake

1066
00:45:16,680 --> 00:45:19,080
Speaker 6: May over Matthew Stafford. The reason why Josh Allen won

1067
00:45:19,120 --> 00:45:21,000
Speaker 6: it last year is because everybody said he had a

1068
00:45:21,080 --> 00:45:25,279
Speaker 6: worse supporting cast than Lamar Jackson. If you give Drake May,

1069
00:45:26,200 --> 00:45:30,480
Speaker 6: Puka Nakua and DeVante Adams just like Stafford, you know,

1070
00:45:30,960 --> 00:45:31,360
Speaker 6: you don't know.

1071
00:45:31,840 --> 00:45:33,040
Speaker 1: It is a good argument.

1072
00:45:33,120 --> 00:45:34,840
Speaker 8: It's a really good argument because you look at the

1073
00:45:34,880 --> 00:45:37,600
Speaker 8: way Josh Allen won the games too. Had to have

1074
00:45:37,719 --> 00:45:40,520
Speaker 8: factored in because he won games last year down the

1075
00:45:40,560 --> 00:45:44,560
Speaker 8: stretch the way he did against Cincinnati, and as great

1076
00:45:44,600 --> 00:45:47,120
Speaker 8: as May has been, the Patriots have been so good

1077
00:45:47,320 --> 00:45:49,480
Speaker 8: that they haven't had to do that. Yeah, it's not

1078
00:45:49,600 --> 00:45:51,399
Speaker 8: Drake May's fault that he hasn't had to have fourth

1079
00:45:51,440 --> 00:45:53,759
Speaker 8: quarter comebacks because they have the lead all the time. Yep,

1080
00:45:54,320 --> 00:45:57,560
Speaker 8: you know, But unfortunately, I think in the voter's eyes

1081
00:45:57,640 --> 00:45:59,680
Speaker 8: sometimes that stuff is what stands out.

1082
00:46:00,719 --> 00:46:00,880
Speaker 5: You know.

1083
00:46:01,000 --> 00:46:03,520
Speaker 8: Even Caleb Williams has got like five come from behind

1084
00:46:03,560 --> 00:46:05,600
Speaker 8: wins this year, no one would say Caleb Williams has

1085
00:46:05,600 --> 00:46:06,680
Speaker 8: played better than Drake May.

1086
00:46:07,080 --> 00:46:10,040
Speaker 2: I'm close Tony's in Canada. What's up Tony?

1087
00:46:11,160 --> 00:46:11,319
Speaker 3: Hey?

1088
00:46:11,480 --> 00:46:16,040
Speaker 15: Guys? Yeah, Well, interested about that game this weekend. That's

1089
00:46:16,120 --> 00:46:19,200
Speaker 15: going to be really exciting. So many things I'd like

1090
00:46:19,320 --> 00:46:23,360
Speaker 15: to say, But regarding May, I think we really lucked

1091
00:46:23,360 --> 00:46:26,640
Speaker 15: out of the three that quarterbacks that came out that year,

1092
00:46:27,440 --> 00:46:30,520
Speaker 15: we got the best one, not just because of his talent,

1093
00:46:30,719 --> 00:46:34,320
Speaker 15: but because of his work ethic and his personality. And

1094
00:46:34,400 --> 00:46:38,040
Speaker 15: if you listen to Josh talk about him, he stresses that,

1095
00:46:38,400 --> 00:46:40,840
Speaker 15: you know, how much of a how smart he is,

1096
00:46:41,000 --> 00:46:45,360
Speaker 15: how quick he picks up his personality. But here's what

1097
00:46:45,480 --> 00:46:48,520
Speaker 15: I called in about. Do you think maybe not enough

1098
00:46:48,680 --> 00:46:53,360
Speaker 15: is being said about the Patriots' red zone, the issues

1099
00:46:54,000 --> 00:46:56,239
Speaker 15: in terms of being able to get into the red

1100
00:46:56,400 --> 00:46:59,280
Speaker 15: zone score touchdowns rather than field goals.

1101
00:47:00,080 --> 00:47:01,359
Speaker 2: It's certainly been talked about.

1102
00:47:01,400 --> 00:47:04,640
Speaker 15: It's going to be Yeah, I know that's gonna have

1103
00:47:04,760 --> 00:47:08,240
Speaker 15: a critical decision in terms of our outcome for games.

1104
00:47:08,280 --> 00:47:10,799
Speaker 15: So wondering if you guys think, how are we going

1105
00:47:10,920 --> 00:47:15,239
Speaker 15: to change things up? I heard Bart and Alex they

1106
00:47:15,320 --> 00:47:19,000
Speaker 15: talked about possibly running kind of like plays running May

1107
00:47:19,120 --> 00:47:21,400
Speaker 15: more trying to run me into the end zone release

1108
00:47:21,480 --> 00:47:24,040
Speaker 15: making a threat. Do you guys think that'll happen?

1109
00:47:24,480 --> 00:47:27,400
Speaker 3: What you guys see, Well, listen, I mean your original

1110
00:47:27,480 --> 00:47:29,480
Speaker 3: thing is is it being talked about enough? I mean

1111
00:47:29,520 --> 00:47:31,799
Speaker 3: even Vrabel mentioned it that that's something that they're going

1112
00:47:31,880 --> 00:47:34,560
Speaker 3: to be working on during the bye.

1113
00:47:34,920 --> 00:47:37,000
Speaker 2: Yeah, the bye. I mean they know what's a problem.

1114
00:47:37,200 --> 00:47:40,279
Speaker 6: That's all I've thought about for two weeks. Yeah, you know,

1115
00:47:40,480 --> 00:47:42,120
Speaker 6: but like mixing the red zone.

1116
00:47:41,960 --> 00:47:45,080
Speaker 2: May, establishing May as a threat down there can't hurt.

1117
00:47:45,480 --> 00:47:45,680
Speaker 1: Yeah.

1118
00:47:45,719 --> 00:47:47,840
Speaker 6: Yeah, And they're twenty fourth in the league right now

1119
00:47:47,920 --> 00:47:51,600
Speaker 6: in red zone offense, they're down near the bottom of

1120
00:47:51,600 --> 00:47:54,080
Speaker 6: the league and goal to go as well. If you're

1121
00:47:54,120 --> 00:47:56,040
Speaker 6: not going to win in the playoffs like that. Now,

1122
00:47:56,120 --> 00:47:58,200
Speaker 6: I think there's two ways you can look at it.

1123
00:47:58,280 --> 00:48:00,879
Speaker 6: One would be to expand the p book down there,

1124
00:48:01,040 --> 00:48:03,799
Speaker 6: you know, with May's legs or you know, whether it's

1125
00:48:04,200 --> 00:48:06,680
Speaker 6: RPO zone read whatever, move in the pocket you know,

1126
00:48:06,920 --> 00:48:10,200
Speaker 6: just incorporating his legs somehow. The other way, which might

1127
00:48:10,239 --> 00:48:12,719
Speaker 6: be the way they end up having to go, is well,

1128
00:48:12,960 --> 00:48:14,520
Speaker 6: if you can't score in the red zone, just to

1129
00:48:14,600 --> 00:48:17,239
Speaker 6: start taking shots from right outside the red zone, like

1130
00:48:17,320 --> 00:48:20,560
Speaker 6: once you get to the twenty five. Yeah, just just

1131
00:48:20,760 --> 00:48:23,239
Speaker 6: you know, to have him throw, you know, vertically into

1132
00:48:23,280 --> 00:48:25,880
Speaker 6: the end zone from from outside the red zone. So

1133
00:48:26,640 --> 00:48:28,600
Speaker 6: you know, those high red zone shot plays might be

1134
00:48:28,680 --> 00:48:31,400
Speaker 6: another way that they can kind of get around that.

1135
00:48:32,239 --> 00:48:35,320
Speaker 6: But they don't have the the personnel right now on

1136
00:48:35,440 --> 00:48:38,040
Speaker 6: the offensive line to like move people on the goal line.

1137
00:48:38,160 --> 00:48:40,640
Speaker 1: It's just they just haven't been able to run the

1138
00:48:40,680 --> 00:48:41,440
Speaker 1: football down there.

1139
00:48:41,480 --> 00:48:43,400
Speaker 7: Do you have any hope that Ramandro Stevenson with the

1140
00:48:43,440 --> 00:48:45,560
Speaker 7: bye week, just has a little bit more juice.

1141
00:48:45,400 --> 00:48:47,279
Speaker 9: Like I felt the last couple of games when he

1142
00:48:47,360 --> 00:48:47,799
Speaker 9: came back.

1143
00:48:47,880 --> 00:48:49,960
Speaker 2: I just feel like, I think it's all about the line.

1144
00:48:50,440 --> 00:48:53,000
Speaker 8: And this is one of these ridiculous things that I

1145
00:48:53,120 --> 00:48:56,000
Speaker 8: throw out there that I have no information on. I

1146
00:48:56,040 --> 00:48:58,440
Speaker 8: feel like the red zone problem kind of started when

1147
00:48:58,480 --> 00:49:00,759
Speaker 8: he got hurt. I don't remember earlier in the year

1148
00:49:00,800 --> 00:49:02,480
Speaker 8: that I'm having as many problems running, and I.

1149
00:49:02,520 --> 00:49:05,399
Speaker 6: Think it started when he fumbled. When he started having

1150
00:49:05,440 --> 00:49:08,040
Speaker 6: the fumble issues, and it could it could be, it.

1151
00:49:08,040 --> 00:49:10,800
Speaker 8: Could be, but I do think that he's an important

1152
00:49:10,840 --> 00:49:13,600
Speaker 8: part of that. They need him, They need him to

1153
00:49:13,640 --> 00:49:15,560
Speaker 8: be the batter and ram that he has always been.

1154
00:49:15,719 --> 00:49:18,399
Speaker 1: I just like I I when you're running the ball

1155
00:49:18,520 --> 00:49:20,879
Speaker 1: on the one yard line, like you can run through

1156
00:49:20,960 --> 00:49:23,760
Speaker 1: somebody in school, you think that maybe he's too tentative.

1157
00:49:23,880 --> 00:49:24,719
Speaker 8: I just try that.

1158
00:49:25,040 --> 00:49:27,200
Speaker 1: Like, I understand that it would be ideal to block

1159
00:49:27,239 --> 00:49:28,960
Speaker 1: it up and get a nice clean.

1160
00:49:28,920 --> 00:49:32,520
Speaker 8: Shot at it, but mostly that's not how you got right.

1161
00:49:32,640 --> 00:49:35,919
Speaker 6: And so you know, hopefully they can put Toga back

1162
00:49:36,000 --> 00:49:39,160
Speaker 6: there and they put you know, Remondra behind Tonga, and

1163
00:49:39,400 --> 00:49:41,879
Speaker 6: you know, you just ram it into the end zone,

1164
00:49:42,000 --> 00:49:44,839
Speaker 6: like and that shouldn't be this hard, Yeah, nobody should.

1165
00:49:45,040 --> 00:49:47,520
Speaker 7: I still just remember the Remondery of Week one last year,

1166
00:49:47,560 --> 00:49:50,640
Speaker 7: you know, breaking tackles left and right in the backfield.

1167
00:49:50,680 --> 00:49:51,800
Speaker 1: I mean, not a necessity.

1168
00:49:51,880 --> 00:49:53,640
Speaker 7: But you know, we just we talked to him in

1169
00:49:53,640 --> 00:49:56,880
Speaker 7: the locker room a couple of weeks style about fumble.

1170
00:49:56,960 --> 00:49:59,840
Speaker 8: That point that Evan made about the fumbles is probably accurate.

1171
00:50:00,160 --> 00:50:02,120
Speaker 8: Maybe why because you don't get a lot. I mean,

1172
00:50:02,200 --> 00:50:03,920
Speaker 8: it happens once in a while where it just opens

1173
00:50:04,000 --> 00:50:05,440
Speaker 8: up in the goal line the guy Waltz is in.

1174
00:50:05,560 --> 00:50:07,920
Speaker 8: That doesn't happen a lot. Yeah, yeah, you know, usually

1175
00:50:07,960 --> 00:50:09,560
Speaker 8: you've got to make some you got to you know,

1176
00:50:09,760 --> 00:50:11,840
Speaker 8: fight through a linebacker or in the gap or something.

1177
00:50:11,960 --> 00:50:14,080
Speaker 8: And I mean, you say, so many guys you can

1178
00:50:14,120 --> 00:50:14,440
Speaker 8: block it.

1179
00:50:14,680 --> 00:50:15,319
Speaker 1: Just it makes me wonder.

1180
00:50:15,320 --> 00:50:17,480
Speaker 7: I brought this topic up thinking about his toe and

1181
00:50:17,600 --> 00:50:19,640
Speaker 7: just health, but maybe it's even a mental thing where

1182
00:50:19,640 --> 00:50:22,359
Speaker 7: it's like we're eleven and two almost.

1183
00:50:23,480 --> 00:50:23,600
Speaker 3: You know.

1184
00:50:23,719 --> 00:50:25,040
Speaker 7: But I was gonna say, we talked to him in

1185
00:50:25,040 --> 00:50:26,360
Speaker 7: the locker room a couple weeks ago, and it just,

1186
00:50:26,440 --> 00:50:27,920
Speaker 7: you know, when he first came back, and it seemed

1187
00:50:27,960 --> 00:50:30,920
Speaker 7: to me like he's still really fighting through something.

1188
00:50:31,000 --> 00:50:32,719
Speaker 1: It's not like, oh, I'm healthy, now I'm back it.

1189
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Speaker 17: You know.

1190
00:50:33,239 --> 00:50:34,560
Speaker 1: It feels like this is going to be a process

1191
00:50:34,680 --> 00:50:36,360
Speaker 1: to get over this toe thing, whatever it was.

1192
00:50:36,520 --> 00:50:41,000
Speaker 6: So that's that's why the mad like option plays could help,

1193
00:50:41,600 --> 00:50:44,120
Speaker 6: because like you're when you're down by the goal line,

1194
00:50:44,280 --> 00:50:45,680
Speaker 6: you don't have to put a safety in the deep

1195
00:50:45,719 --> 00:50:47,200
Speaker 6: part of the field because there is no deep part

1196
00:50:47,239 --> 00:50:48,960
Speaker 6: of the field. So now that safety is in the

1197
00:50:49,000 --> 00:50:51,160
Speaker 6: box sure, near the line of scrimmage. So now you're

1198
00:50:51,480 --> 00:50:54,200
Speaker 6: you're you can't, like to Paul's point, you can't block

1199
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Speaker 6: them all. And so if you have Drake, then you're

1200
00:50:57,080 --> 00:51:00,239
Speaker 6: able to use him to hold the backside and it

1201
00:51:00,440 --> 00:51:03,640
Speaker 6: occupies a defender, maybe even two defenders depending on how

1202
00:51:03,719 --> 00:51:06,520
Speaker 6: you design it. So that way there, you're actually gonna

1203
00:51:06,560 --> 00:51:09,440
Speaker 6: leave those guys purposely unblocked and you're gonna hope that

1204
00:51:09,520 --> 00:51:12,000
Speaker 6: they react to the quarterback and then you can get

1205
00:51:12,120 --> 00:51:14,960
Speaker 6: the numbers to where you're actually trying to run the football.

1206
00:51:15,360 --> 00:51:18,000
Speaker 6: So like in theory that that's why those plays work

1207
00:51:18,120 --> 00:51:20,600
Speaker 6: so well in like short yardage and low red zone

1208
00:51:20,600 --> 00:51:23,640
Speaker 6: opportunities is because you're you're evening up the numbers. Now

1209
00:51:23,680 --> 00:51:26,240
Speaker 6: you're playing eleven on eleven instead of ten on eleven

1210
00:51:26,440 --> 00:51:27,280
Speaker 6: if you're the offense.

1211
00:51:27,560 --> 00:51:33,839
Speaker 7: Jordan is in Canada, Jordan, Yes, Jordan, or Jordan's Jordan.

1212
00:51:34,000 --> 00:51:34,080
Speaker 10: Hi.

1213
00:51:34,200 --> 00:51:41,439
Speaker 18: Guys as just generally anxious person and anxious Patriots fan.

1214
00:51:41,960 --> 00:51:44,799
Speaker 18: I want so badly to just jump on the Drake

1215
00:51:44,880 --> 00:51:48,000
Speaker 18: May thing and like be like, yes, he saved us,

1216
00:51:48,120 --> 00:51:51,840
Speaker 18: He's our guy, you know, And I'm starting to become convinced.

1217
00:51:51,880 --> 00:51:53,280
Speaker 18: But something that Evan said.

1218
00:51:53,239 --> 00:51:56,560
Speaker 19: Yesterday kind of made me question or it made me think,

1219
00:51:56,640 --> 00:52:00,360
Speaker 19: so the cause Evan yesterday you said something along the

1220
00:52:00,440 --> 00:52:06,279
Speaker 19: lines of the Patriots won't will likely not lose in

1221
00:52:06,360 --> 00:52:10,440
Speaker 19: a fashion of like a defensive rock fight. You can

1222
00:52:10,840 --> 00:52:14,880
Speaker 19: more likely see them losing in like a shootout, like

1223
00:52:15,200 --> 00:52:16,319
Speaker 19: a battle to the end.

1224
00:52:17,040 --> 00:52:19,920
Speaker 18: And I was just wondering why you guys think that,

1225
00:52:20,200 --> 00:52:24,000
Speaker 18: because honestly, the offense hasn't scored over like twenty something

1226
00:52:24,120 --> 00:52:27,200
Speaker 18: points all season, So why do you think that we

1227
00:52:27,400 --> 00:52:30,720
Speaker 18: have a better shot in winning a game like forty

1228
00:52:30,840 --> 00:52:33,960
Speaker 18: five to forty three? Like, I don't know, I just

1229
00:52:34,040 --> 00:52:37,080
Speaker 18: don't see it. I want to that's exciting, but like,

1230
00:52:37,840 --> 00:52:40,200
Speaker 18: I don't know, I'm just not convinced. I want to

1231
00:52:40,280 --> 00:52:43,480
Speaker 18: be convinced. So what are your guys just thow?

1232
00:52:43,680 --> 00:52:45,840
Speaker 2: Yeah, I think question or flopped it.

1233
00:52:46,080 --> 00:52:49,799
Speaker 1: I think you're better off winning a game, a lower

1234
00:52:49,920 --> 00:52:51,480
Speaker 1: scoring game, So you.

1235
00:52:51,520 --> 00:52:53,640
Speaker 2: Think there's more chance they win a rock fight than

1236
00:52:53,680 --> 00:52:54,240
Speaker 2: a shootout.

1237
00:52:54,360 --> 00:52:57,439
Speaker 1: Correct. I haven't seen them win a shootout. They haven't

1238
00:52:57,440 --> 00:52:59,760
Speaker 1: really had to, right, right, So that's that's valid.

1239
00:53:00,000 --> 00:53:02,560
Speaker 8: That would be My argument is, like we talk about

1240
00:53:02,719 --> 00:53:06,879
Speaker 8: that they haven't scored that many points, like offensive points, well,

1241
00:53:07,440 --> 00:53:10,319
Speaker 8: the most points they've allowed is what twenty seven? Yeah,

1242
00:53:10,920 --> 00:53:13,280
Speaker 8: and that was once with a kick with a punt return,

1243
00:53:13,320 --> 00:53:14,080
Speaker 8: it was twenty three.

1244
00:53:14,160 --> 00:53:17,279
Speaker 6: Otherwise, it's under twenty three that during the entire winning streak,

1245
00:53:17,320 --> 00:53:19,160
Speaker 6: they haven't given up more than twenty three in ten.

1246
00:53:19,080 --> 00:53:21,040
Speaker 8: Stright, right, I mean, the only the only time they

1247
00:53:21,080 --> 00:53:23,080
Speaker 8: give up twenty three in any game was the Miami

1248
00:53:23,200 --> 00:53:25,320
Speaker 8: game that they give up the punt return for a touchdown.

1249
00:53:25,640 --> 00:53:27,840
Speaker 6: I guess that was really only twenty that one. I

1250
00:53:27,920 --> 00:53:30,359
Speaker 6: guess you could it was a mini shootout. I don't

1251
00:53:30,400 --> 00:53:32,520
Speaker 6: know if that was a full flag shootout, and I.

1252
00:53:32,520 --> 00:53:35,200
Speaker 8: Would, you know, sub mini shootout, subtract the seven for both,

1253
00:53:35,320 --> 00:53:38,879
Speaker 8: because right, you know, the Patriots then in turn turned

1254
00:53:38,920 --> 00:53:41,320
Speaker 8: the kick off of the punt return for a touchdown.

1255
00:53:41,760 --> 00:53:45,279
Speaker 8: But yeah, to Jordan's point, they haven't really been in

1256
00:53:45,360 --> 00:53:47,640
Speaker 8: those shootouts, and maybe you don't know if they can

1257
00:53:47,800 --> 00:53:48,560
Speaker 8: they can win one.

1258
00:53:50,800 --> 00:53:51,440
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, I.

1259
00:53:53,840 --> 00:53:56,840
Speaker 8: I don't know how i'd feel relying on the defense

1260
00:53:56,880 --> 00:53:58,560
Speaker 8: to win the game. I think the defense has not

1261
00:53:58,680 --> 00:54:01,040
Speaker 8: been put in a ton of really bad spots. When

1262
00:54:01,080 --> 00:54:05,120
Speaker 8: they have, they've come through every time I've chronicled Miami, Cincinnati,

1263
00:54:05,239 --> 00:54:07,680
Speaker 8: New Orleans like they've when they've had to stop the

1264
00:54:07,719 --> 00:54:09,080
Speaker 8: other team at the end of the game they have.

1265
00:54:09,920 --> 00:54:11,760
Speaker 1: I don't know if you want to be in that situation.

1266
00:54:12,400 --> 00:54:14,640
Speaker 6: I think I more look at it just from like

1267
00:54:15,480 --> 00:54:17,919
Speaker 6: how the script of the game, like how the game

1268
00:54:18,000 --> 00:54:20,880
Speaker 6: flow goes, Like I don't know if it's necessarily relying

1269
00:54:20,960 --> 00:54:22,880
Speaker 6: on the defense, but maybe it's a short it's a

1270
00:54:22,920 --> 00:54:26,200
Speaker 6: shortened game where each team only has like eight possessions,

1271
00:54:26,280 --> 00:54:28,600
Speaker 6: and like I just feel like the Patriots, I'm more

1272
00:54:29,000 --> 00:54:31,800
Speaker 6: look at them as an efficient offense, not necessarily a

1273
00:54:31,920 --> 00:54:35,160
Speaker 6: volume offense, Like they're very, very efficient, but in the

1274
00:54:35,160 --> 00:54:36,000
Speaker 6: plays that they run.

1275
00:54:36,400 --> 00:54:37,600
Speaker 1: But I haven't seen them.

1276
00:54:38,160 --> 00:54:41,360
Speaker 6: You know, I haven't seen Drake mego against Josh Allen

1277
00:54:41,400 --> 00:54:42,680
Speaker 6: and win forty five to forty.

1278
00:54:42,719 --> 00:54:43,640
Speaker 1: I'm not saying you can't.

1279
00:54:44,000 --> 00:54:46,000
Speaker 6: I'm just saying you haven't seen it, right, So I

1280
00:54:46,160 --> 00:54:48,880
Speaker 6: just I would rather all year long, they've been playing

1281
00:54:49,440 --> 00:54:52,680
Speaker 6: games that are are like you know in this that

1282
00:54:52,920 --> 00:54:57,920
Speaker 6: that twenty three point range right, Like I.

1283
00:54:58,000 --> 00:55:00,600
Speaker 8: Haven't really lit the school board up. Even their offense

1284
00:55:00,640 --> 00:55:01,279
Speaker 8: has been really good.

1285
00:55:01,360 --> 00:55:03,319
Speaker 7: Yeah, yeah, I'm just thinking of the Bengals Bills game

1286
00:55:03,400 --> 00:55:05,640
Speaker 7: last weekend where you know, it's all of a sudden,

1287
00:55:05,719 --> 00:55:07,520
Speaker 7: Joe Burrow is taking the field and he needs to

1288
00:55:07,600 --> 00:55:10,720
Speaker 7: go score. You know, those kind of situations you haven't

1289
00:55:10,760 --> 00:55:13,400
Speaker 7: really seen them in And that's maybe one of the

1290
00:55:13,440 --> 00:55:15,680
Speaker 7: things I'm wondering most about this game. Is this game

1291
00:55:16,320 --> 00:55:18,480
Speaker 7: going to be a game that's a little off script

1292
00:55:18,560 --> 00:55:20,279
Speaker 7: from what we've seen, because I mean, I mean, and

1293
00:55:20,320 --> 00:55:21,920
Speaker 7: maybe this is I don't know, I'm just this is

1294
00:55:21,960 --> 00:55:23,320
Speaker 7: off the top of my head. But I would say generally,

1295
00:55:23,400 --> 00:55:25,200
Speaker 7: like the games have all kind of felt the same, like,

1296
00:55:25,280 --> 00:55:27,600
Speaker 7: you know, there's maybe some little lulls, but generally they

1297
00:55:27,719 --> 00:55:29,840
Speaker 7: kind of just keep pulling away and then in the

1298
00:55:29,920 --> 00:55:32,120
Speaker 7: second half they're able to ice it out and you know,

1299
00:55:32,239 --> 00:55:35,040
Speaker 7: the other team never really makes that late push where

1300
00:55:35,040 --> 00:55:37,200
Speaker 7: you're like, Okay, Drake, there's four minutes left in the

1301
00:55:37,239 --> 00:55:37,719
Speaker 7: fourth quarter.

1302
00:55:38,400 --> 00:55:40,160
Speaker 1: Josh Allen just let his team down the field. Now

1303
00:55:40,200 --> 00:55:41,239
Speaker 1: it's your turn to go do it.

1304
00:55:41,320 --> 00:55:45,120
Speaker 7: And to me, that's the perfect like MVP showcase, you know,

1305
00:55:45,239 --> 00:55:46,920
Speaker 7: like it's just that that could line up to.

1306
00:55:46,960 --> 00:55:50,320
Speaker 1: Be a perfect feather and Drake mayscap.

1307
00:55:49,960 --> 00:55:51,440
Speaker 8: And I know you want to go to the emails, Freddie,

1308
00:55:51,440 --> 00:55:53,080
Speaker 8: I'll give you one more thing that I would like

1309
00:55:53,160 --> 00:55:55,239
Speaker 8: about the Patriots chances in one of those rock fight

1310
00:55:55,360 --> 00:55:57,600
Speaker 8: kind of games, is I think Rabel and stretch have

1311
00:55:58,000 --> 00:56:02,239
Speaker 8: demonstrated a really good asp of game situations. You know,

1312
00:56:03,440 --> 00:56:07,080
Speaker 8: you asked me yesterday any clock management an that kind,

1313
00:56:07,120 --> 00:56:09,560
Speaker 8: you know, any ref bashing? Well, I left out an

1314
00:56:09,719 --> 00:56:11,400
Speaker 8: enormous one from one of the guys that I have

1315
00:56:11,480 --> 00:56:14,440
Speaker 8: the most respect for. And Andy Reid going for a

1316
00:56:14,520 --> 00:56:17,279
Speaker 8: fourth down, you know, in a ten ten game at

1317
00:56:17,320 --> 00:56:22,080
Speaker 8: that time, was certainly risky. Now I understand probably more

1318
00:56:22,120 --> 00:56:25,800
Speaker 8: than most. Like everybody says, you know, so people that

1319
00:56:25,880 --> 00:56:28,560
Speaker 8: don't know it was tie game, fourth quarter, they're in there.

1320
00:56:28,640 --> 00:56:30,200
Speaker 8: I think they're on their own thirty one. They went

1321
00:56:30,280 --> 00:56:33,279
Speaker 8: for a fourth and a long one and I think

1322
00:56:33,360 --> 00:56:37,200
Speaker 8: Rashi Rice dropped a pass and I'll obviously kind of

1323
00:56:37,320 --> 00:56:41,800
Speaker 8: just handed Houston to go ahead points. Everybody said that

1324
00:56:41,960 --> 00:56:45,000
Speaker 8: was dumb. He should have punted. Your defense was playing

1325
00:56:45,040 --> 00:56:48,480
Speaker 8: really well. I would kind of counter. Now, I would

1326
00:56:48,520 --> 00:56:51,800
Speaker 8: have punted, full disclosure, I absolutely would have punted. But

1327
00:56:53,120 --> 00:56:54,800
Speaker 8: if the reason I would have punted it was because

1328
00:56:54,800 --> 00:56:58,240
Speaker 8: my defense was playing really well, well, shouldn't I expect

1329
00:56:58,280 --> 00:57:00,239
Speaker 8: the defense to continue to play really well and up

1330
00:57:00,239 --> 00:57:01,120
Speaker 8: with a stop and make him.

1331
00:57:01,040 --> 00:57:01,640
Speaker 1: Kick a field goal.

1332
00:57:02,000 --> 00:57:04,360
Speaker 8: You make it a little bit tougher, but you'll let

1333
00:57:04,440 --> 00:57:06,960
Speaker 8: him go six place thirty one yards touchdown, like if

1334
00:57:07,000 --> 00:57:08,960
Speaker 8: you if you give up a field goal there, my

1335
00:57:09,080 --> 00:57:11,840
Speaker 8: defense continued to play well, like I think he was

1336
00:57:11,920 --> 00:57:13,759
Speaker 8: showing confidence in his defense.

1337
00:57:13,480 --> 00:57:13,919
Speaker 1: Is my point?

1338
00:57:13,960 --> 00:57:14,080
Speaker 12: Oh?

1339
00:57:14,120 --> 00:57:17,440
Speaker 6: Yes, you just that you just made the nerd argument.

1340
00:57:17,960 --> 00:57:20,400
Speaker 6: That's what that that's the nerd argument right there. But

1341
00:57:20,480 --> 00:57:22,720
Speaker 6: then is that if you look at you that way,

1342
00:57:22,840 --> 00:57:25,360
Speaker 6: if you rely on it, if you're saying I don't

1343
00:57:25,360 --> 00:57:27,840
Speaker 6: really like myself right now, if you're saying that your

1344
00:57:27,960 --> 00:57:31,520
Speaker 6: defense is the strength, then shouldn't you trust your defense

1345
00:57:31,640 --> 00:57:32,280
Speaker 6: to hold.

1346
00:57:32,080 --> 00:57:37,200
Speaker 2: That your defense? If I don't get it, my defense

1347
00:57:37,320 --> 00:57:38,000
Speaker 2: is going to come through.

1348
00:57:38,400 --> 00:57:41,440
Speaker 8: And but there's ten minutes left, I'm okay being down three, right,

1349
00:57:42,120 --> 00:57:43,400
Speaker 8: I'll give them because.

1350
00:57:43,320 --> 00:57:44,800
Speaker 1: He did he did it, but he didn't know he

1351
00:57:44,840 --> 00:57:46,880
Speaker 1: did it, and I like that you No, No, I

1352
00:57:47,120 --> 00:57:49,240
Speaker 1: backed into it. I knew what I was doing.

1353
00:57:49,320 --> 00:57:49,520
Speaker 5: Yeah.

1354
00:57:50,320 --> 00:57:52,760
Speaker 1: But the thing that that really stood out to me

1355
00:57:53,040 --> 00:57:56,400
Speaker 1: was it's not like.

1356
00:57:57,920 --> 00:58:01,720
Speaker 8: This whole thing about the analytics that never like they

1357
00:58:01,800 --> 00:58:03,960
Speaker 8: don't take the game situation. That's why I would have

1358
00:58:04,000 --> 00:58:07,920
Speaker 8: punted because I don't need to get the yard. The

1359
00:58:08,080 --> 00:58:10,240
Speaker 8: yard like to me, is not like going to translate

1360
00:58:10,280 --> 00:58:12,640
Speaker 8: to points. Like let's just say they got it. It's

1361
00:58:12,720 --> 00:58:15,160
Speaker 8: a rock fight. That doesn't mean you're that you're eminently

1362
00:58:15,200 --> 00:58:17,880
Speaker 8: going to score now. You might ultimately end up having

1363
00:58:17,920 --> 00:58:19,320
Speaker 8: a punt anyway, So just punt.

1364
00:58:19,400 --> 00:58:20,040
Speaker 1: Play it safe.

1365
00:58:20,560 --> 00:58:23,240
Speaker 8: Don't put yourself in a situation where and Evan will

1366
00:58:23,280 --> 00:58:24,960
Speaker 8: have the numbers. I don't know what it is, like

1367
00:58:25,200 --> 00:58:29,000
Speaker 8: fourth and fourth and one. You probably have like an

1368
00:58:29,120 --> 00:58:31,280
Speaker 8: eighty plus percent chance of converting.

1369
00:58:30,960 --> 00:58:33,800
Speaker 1: That very high, Like I don't know exactly what it

1370
00:58:33,880 --> 00:58:34,560
Speaker 1: is for twenty twenty.

1371
00:58:35,680 --> 00:58:39,200
Speaker 8: A situation where one like you have the one of

1372
00:58:39,280 --> 00:58:41,520
Speaker 8: the ten percent is going to cost you a game.

1373
00:58:41,680 --> 00:58:42,640
Speaker 1: Right, And they don't.

1374
00:58:43,320 --> 00:58:46,480
Speaker 3: They don't do the analytics, don't take in game situations

1375
00:58:46,560 --> 00:58:48,800
Speaker 3: not part of the Curry Street mentioned it in the

1376
00:58:48,960 --> 00:58:49,480
Speaker 3: last game.

1377
00:58:49,720 --> 00:58:51,840
Speaker 8: Time and scorer is not really a big part of

1378
00:58:51,920 --> 00:58:52,600
Speaker 8: those analytics.

1379
00:58:52,720 --> 00:58:55,680
Speaker 3: It's also like, let's just say what a key defensive

1380
00:58:55,680 --> 00:58:59,240
Speaker 3: player is hurt your guy in this particular game, and

1381
00:58:59,320 --> 00:59:00,080
Speaker 3: that changes it.

1382
00:59:00,160 --> 00:59:02,520
Speaker 8: Don't take time, I know, which is not true.

1383
00:59:02,920 --> 00:59:03,800
Speaker 1: I'm just thanking you for that.

1384
00:59:03,840 --> 00:59:04,240
Speaker 2: That's okay.

1385
00:59:06,120 --> 00:59:07,919
Speaker 7: Let me ask you a question going into this game

1386
00:59:08,080 --> 00:59:10,560
Speaker 7: for the Patriots perspective, would you go in with an

1387
00:59:10,640 --> 00:59:11,560
Speaker 7: aggressive attitude?

1388
00:59:11,600 --> 00:59:13,240
Speaker 9: Would you be saying to your team we need to

1389
00:59:13,280 --> 00:59:14,040
Speaker 9: be aggressive tonight.

1390
00:59:14,080 --> 00:59:15,720
Speaker 7: We need to you know, if we have a fourth

1391
00:59:15,800 --> 00:59:18,080
Speaker 7: and two or you know, inside the twenty and we're

1392
00:59:18,120 --> 00:59:19,320
Speaker 7: gonna need touchdowns to beat this.

1393
00:59:19,400 --> 00:59:21,600
Speaker 8: Guy in Yes, I would have that, but it can

1394
00:59:21,800 --> 00:59:24,200
Speaker 8: like this is why I would have caught game to players,

1395
00:59:24,200 --> 00:59:26,200
Speaker 8: of course, because it's ten ten in the fourth quarter

1396
00:59:26,360 --> 00:59:28,360
Speaker 8: in a freezing cold night where the offenses are not

1397
00:59:28,440 --> 00:59:29,320
Speaker 8: really doing a whole lot.

1398
00:59:29,400 --> 00:59:32,120
Speaker 6: Now, Yeah, that that's a That's the type of stuff

1399
00:59:32,160 --> 00:59:35,160
Speaker 6: that that the math won't necessarily take into account, is

1400
00:59:35,440 --> 00:59:37,560
Speaker 6: like what kind of game is unfolding in front of us?

1401
00:59:37,680 --> 00:59:39,080
Speaker 1: What are the conditions? Who's hurt?

1402
00:59:39,280 --> 00:59:41,640
Speaker 6: Like all those different types of things. But down in

1403
00:59:41,720 --> 00:59:44,160
Speaker 6: distance and time left in the game is that's what

1404
00:59:44,320 --> 00:59:47,160
Speaker 6: goes into the computer, Like the computer you spin, you

1405
00:59:47,200 --> 00:59:49,920
Speaker 6: put in the computer, it's fourth and one, it's ten

1406
00:59:50,000 --> 00:59:52,800
Speaker 6: to ten, there's eight minutes left. Should I go for

1407
00:59:52,960 --> 00:59:54,040
Speaker 6: it or should I not go for it?

1408
00:59:54,480 --> 00:59:57,040
Speaker 2: Yeah, but there are other factors in I just say

1409
00:59:57,120 --> 00:59:59,880
Speaker 2: that I know what I'm saying. It doesn't it's not.

1410
01:00:00,320 --> 01:00:00,360
Speaker 10: No.

1411
01:00:01,240 --> 01:00:04,280
Speaker 3: All all these analytics do is say what happened in

1412
01:00:04,360 --> 01:00:06,920
Speaker 3: the past it and that's all it does.

1413
01:00:06,960 --> 01:00:08,520
Speaker 1: That's how I understand it. If I'm wrong.

1414
01:00:08,600 --> 01:00:10,640
Speaker 8: If I'm wrong, I'm wrong, and I'm not telling you

1415
01:00:10,680 --> 01:00:12,720
Speaker 8: that i'm right because I do not do the nerd stuff.

1416
01:00:13,480 --> 01:00:16,560
Speaker 8: But I think that the percentages when when the game,

1417
01:00:17,040 --> 01:00:19,600
Speaker 8: when you're watching a game and they put up ESPN says, go,

1418
01:00:20,760 --> 01:00:24,360
Speaker 8: they're not doing that. They're putting in it's a it's

1419
01:00:24,400 --> 01:00:27,160
Speaker 8: a fourth and two. These are the percentages of fourth

1420
01:00:27,240 --> 01:00:28,520
Speaker 8: and two's that have been converted.

1421
01:00:28,680 --> 01:00:32,200
Speaker 6: That's not how that, like our guys, Stretch is not

1422
01:00:32,320 --> 01:00:35,280
Speaker 6: doing it that way that they put into the computer.

1423
01:00:36,160 --> 01:00:39,400
Speaker 6: It's fourth and two, it's ten to ten, there's nine

1424
01:00:39,440 --> 01:00:40,360
Speaker 6: minutes left in the game.

1425
01:00:40,560 --> 01:00:41,960
Speaker 1: Now it doesn't put in that.

1426
01:00:42,040 --> 01:00:44,560
Speaker 6: It's the bills without ed Oliver and without it doesn't

1427
01:00:44,680 --> 01:00:45,680
Speaker 6: have all those factors.

1428
01:00:45,720 --> 01:00:47,200
Speaker 1: And maybe they have a way to do that because

1429
01:00:47,240 --> 01:00:50,959
Speaker 1: it does better. But I'm telling you, I'm just telling

1430
01:00:51,040 --> 01:00:54,680
Speaker 1: you what it does, Okay, and then it doesn't. That's

1431
01:00:54,920 --> 01:00:57,080
Speaker 1: that's it is, word for it. That's how it goes.

1432
01:00:57,520 --> 01:00:57,720
Speaker 16: Well.

1433
01:00:57,800 --> 01:01:00,160
Speaker 1: I have, like I don't have our calculator, and I

1434
01:01:00,240 --> 01:01:02,160
Speaker 1: have a calculator that's public.

1435
01:01:02,160 --> 01:01:04,760
Speaker 6: That that this is the You put the field position,

1436
01:01:05,200 --> 01:01:07,919
Speaker 6: you put the time and score, you put the down

1437
01:01:08,000 --> 01:01:10,560
Speaker 6: and distance, and it spits out whether or not you

1438
01:01:10,600 --> 01:01:11,400
Speaker 6: should go forward or.

1439
01:01:11,440 --> 01:01:14,600
Speaker 3: Not, and you better also be putting in how has

1440
01:01:14,640 --> 01:01:17,720
Speaker 3: our defense been performing this game, so that any other

1441
01:01:17,840 --> 01:01:18,360
Speaker 3: factor that.

1442
01:01:18,520 --> 01:01:21,200
Speaker 6: To me is why the Atriot system works so well

1443
01:01:21,840 --> 01:01:25,000
Speaker 6: or has worked, is because I think Stretching, the guys

1444
01:01:25,080 --> 01:01:26,960
Speaker 6: up top are doing the computers.

1445
01:01:27,120 --> 01:01:28,880
Speaker 1: And that's the point that I stayed with.

1446
01:01:29,480 --> 01:01:31,960
Speaker 8: I feel like Rabel and Stretch have demonstrated a good

1447
01:01:32,080 --> 01:01:33,720
Speaker 8: grasp of game situation.

1448
01:01:33,440 --> 01:01:37,240
Speaker 6: Because I think Rabel is what Fred is saying, and

1449
01:01:37,360 --> 01:01:40,360
Speaker 6: he puts that thought into it. Stretch puts the nerd

1450
01:01:40,440 --> 01:01:42,560
Speaker 6: math into it, and they come in the middle and

1451
01:01:42,600 --> 01:01:43,880
Speaker 6: they say, this is what we're going to do.

1452
01:01:44,040 --> 01:01:44,200
Speaker 8: Now.

1453
01:01:44,480 --> 01:01:47,680
Speaker 6: Most of their decisions do go by the numbers, just

1454
01:01:48,200 --> 01:01:51,040
Speaker 6: in terms of being lockstep with the numbers. But I

1455
01:01:51,120 --> 01:01:53,120
Speaker 6: think the bigger thing in terms of, like, you know,

1456
01:01:53,200 --> 01:01:55,680
Speaker 6: the analytics with all these game situation type of things,

1457
01:01:56,240 --> 01:02:00,560
Speaker 6: it does also account for what is your win percentage

1458
01:02:00,600 --> 01:02:03,000
Speaker 6: if you fail and what is your win percentage if

1459
01:02:03,000 --> 01:02:06,640
Speaker 6: you succeed, And it takes into count the fact that

1460
01:02:06,760 --> 01:02:10,480
Speaker 6: you could fail. Now your win percentage when you fail

1461
01:02:11,040 --> 01:02:15,040
Speaker 6: might be only one percentage point less than if you

1462
01:02:15,320 --> 01:02:18,280
Speaker 6: you know, if you fail if you punt right, So

1463
01:02:18,440 --> 01:02:20,840
Speaker 6: that is why that comes into this as well. Like

1464
01:02:20,880 --> 01:02:23,000
Speaker 6: if we kick a field goal here, we have a

1465
01:02:23,080 --> 01:02:26,320
Speaker 6: seventy six percent chance of winning, but if we fail

1466
01:02:26,760 --> 01:02:29,919
Speaker 6: this fourth down, we have a seventy five percent chance

1467
01:02:29,960 --> 01:02:33,439
Speaker 6: of winning. So for the one percentage point difference, we're

1468
01:02:33,480 --> 01:02:33,800
Speaker 6: gonna go.

1469
01:02:34,080 --> 01:02:34,320
Speaker 1: Yeah.

1470
01:02:34,360 --> 01:02:37,880
Speaker 3: I just like it when the people making the decisions

1471
01:02:38,480 --> 01:02:40,439
Speaker 3: have either played the game or coach the game.

1472
01:02:41,000 --> 01:02:42,120
Speaker 2: That makes me feel better.

1473
01:02:42,400 --> 01:02:44,520
Speaker 1: But don't you wantry doing it?

1474
01:02:44,640 --> 01:02:46,560
Speaker 7: Like? I think I could have confidence you were doing

1475
01:02:46,600 --> 01:02:48,040
Speaker 7: it like, I mean, I think you're pretty aware of

1476
01:02:48,120 --> 01:02:48,480
Speaker 7: these all.

1477
01:02:48,560 --> 01:02:50,600
Speaker 8: I mean, I I'm sure I would choke like a

1478
01:02:50,680 --> 01:02:52,960
Speaker 8: dog if I was doing it for real, as opposed

1479
01:02:53,000 --> 01:02:55,680
Speaker 8: to making fun of Stark Hanson on Red Zone.

1480
01:02:55,800 --> 01:02:57,520
Speaker 6: I think it's I think it's really cool how the

1481
01:02:57,600 --> 01:03:00,800
Speaker 6: Patriots do it because they have they have them, they

1482
01:03:00,880 --> 01:03:03,040
Speaker 6: have the algorithms, and then they make a decisions and

1483
01:03:03,080 --> 01:03:05,320
Speaker 6: then Vray Bulk is able to have a great feel

1484
01:03:05,400 --> 01:03:08,480
Speaker 6: of like what's the situation, how are we feeling?

1485
01:03:08,680 --> 01:03:11,919
Speaker 1: What's the you know, what's who were we playing? Who's hurt,

1486
01:03:12,000 --> 01:03:13,840
Speaker 1: who's not hurt? What player are we getting to?

1487
01:03:15,080 --> 01:03:15,200
Speaker 8: Right?

1488
01:03:15,320 --> 01:03:18,400
Speaker 6: You know, they kicked the field goal on the goal

1489
01:03:18,440 --> 01:03:20,800
Speaker 6: line in Buffalo before the half, make it six to three.

1490
01:03:21,120 --> 01:03:23,280
Speaker 6: Then they had the same exact situation later on in

1491
01:03:23,360 --> 01:03:25,400
Speaker 6: the season and they went for it on fourth down

1492
01:03:25,440 --> 01:03:27,400
Speaker 6: and scored a touchdown before the half in Tampa Bay.

1493
01:03:27,960 --> 01:03:29,560
Speaker 1: And he's the exact same situation.

1494
01:03:29,720 --> 01:03:32,959
Speaker 3: I guarantee you, and I know it's impossible to prove

1495
01:03:33,040 --> 01:03:36,160
Speaker 3: something that will never happen or hasn't happened. But if

1496
01:03:36,760 --> 01:03:39,240
Speaker 3: for you know, if for the next five years or

1497
01:03:39,520 --> 01:03:43,120
Speaker 3: you know, every team just went strictly by the analytics,

1498
01:03:43,640 --> 01:03:45,600
Speaker 3: in ten years, the analytics would change.

1499
01:03:47,800 --> 01:03:48,880
Speaker 2: Maybe see what I'm saying.

1500
01:03:49,120 --> 01:03:51,280
Speaker 6: I doe, Yeah, but I just want to Yeah, I

1501
01:03:51,880 --> 01:03:54,920
Speaker 6: think that I think that there's a happy median of it,

1502
01:03:55,000 --> 01:03:57,560
Speaker 6: and I think the Patriots have struck that exact middle

1503
01:03:57,760 --> 01:03:59,440
Speaker 6: of where and I think that's why there.

1504
01:03:59,360 --> 01:03:59,840
Speaker 2: To be that way.

1505
01:04:00,240 --> 01:04:03,200
Speaker 3: It's it's just common sense. You have to look at

1506
01:04:03,280 --> 01:04:07,600
Speaker 3: your situation in that particular game. Fine, look at history.

1507
01:04:07,960 --> 01:04:12,160
Speaker 3: But today is today, and Milton Williams just went out

1508
01:04:12,560 --> 01:04:15,200
Speaker 3: and he's gone for the game, and that affects my

1509
01:04:15,320 --> 01:04:16,120
Speaker 3: decision making.

1510
01:04:16,520 --> 01:04:18,000
Speaker 2: That didn't affect the analytics.

1511
01:04:18,360 --> 01:04:20,880
Speaker 8: That's why I like the way Mike in stretch have

1512
01:04:21,080 --> 01:04:23,600
Speaker 8: done it so far. You know, hopefully they'll continue because

1513
01:04:23,600 --> 01:04:27,360
Speaker 8: they do, I think, adjust based on what's actually happening

1514
01:04:27,440 --> 01:04:29,280
Speaker 8: that day as opposed to all of the data that

1515
01:04:29,360 --> 01:04:30,240
Speaker 8: they bring to the game.

1516
01:04:30,680 --> 01:04:32,800
Speaker 1: Yeah I have to go to Vrabel, but I just

1517
01:04:32,880 --> 01:04:33,440
Speaker 1: you don't have to.

1518
01:04:34,880 --> 01:04:35,520
Speaker 2: What's this day?

1519
01:04:38,640 --> 01:04:39,040
Speaker 1: Oh great?

1520
01:04:39,120 --> 01:04:43,080
Speaker 6: Cool, exactly what I wanted to hear. I just think

1521
01:04:43,120 --> 01:04:46,520
Speaker 6: that I wish it's different than like debating like should

1522
01:04:46,520 --> 01:04:46,960
Speaker 6: they have gone?

1523
01:04:46,960 --> 01:04:47,760
Speaker 1: Should they not? Ever?

1524
01:04:47,920 --> 01:04:50,160
Speaker 6: Like the down nine go for two things like you

1525
01:04:50,240 --> 01:04:52,240
Speaker 6: can have your own opinions on that. I just wish

1526
01:04:52,320 --> 01:04:56,480
Speaker 6: there was a better like what I just broke down

1527
01:04:56,520 --> 01:04:58,520
Speaker 6: of how what like what you actually put into the

1528
01:04:58,600 --> 01:05:00,800
Speaker 6: model and what it actually spits out. Like I don't

1529
01:05:00,800 --> 01:05:04,080
Speaker 6: think that there's a great grasp in the actual like

1530
01:05:04,520 --> 01:05:09,720
Speaker 6: national NFL zeitgeist of like how these analytics models work.

1531
01:05:09,920 --> 01:05:12,560
Speaker 6: Because Paul what Paul said, I understand. I think Paul

1532
01:05:13,080 --> 01:05:16,000
Speaker 6: is in the majority that think that it's just in

1533
01:05:16,160 --> 01:05:19,240
Speaker 6: any blanket fourth and two situation, you know what's the

1534
01:05:19,560 --> 01:05:22,920
Speaker 6: mass say, and there's there is more like factors that

1535
01:05:23,000 --> 01:05:24,120
Speaker 6: get plugged into the computer.

1536
01:05:24,240 --> 01:05:26,440
Speaker 8: They're just telling you when they put the numbers up

1537
01:05:26,520 --> 01:05:29,960
Speaker 8: on ESPN. They're not factoring in time and score. They're

1538
01:05:30,040 --> 01:05:31,640
Speaker 8: just saying this is the amount of this is the

1539
01:05:31,680 --> 01:05:32,600
Speaker 8: percentage of making it.

1540
01:05:32,840 --> 01:05:35,920
Speaker 1: I would like to know who like what they're doing then,

1541
01:05:36,040 --> 01:05:38,840
Speaker 1: because the teams, obviously I agree with you.

1542
01:05:39,400 --> 01:05:41,200
Speaker 8: I would just want to hear you, boy Alex, say

1543
01:05:41,240 --> 01:05:43,040
Speaker 8: that they don't do that, because I was always under

1544
01:05:43,040 --> 01:05:43,760
Speaker 8: the impression that they do.

1545
01:05:44,480 --> 01:05:47,720
Speaker 2: Even putting time and scoring isn't enough in my opinion.

1546
01:05:47,840 --> 01:05:49,040
Speaker 1: What else would you like them to put in?

1547
01:05:49,200 --> 01:05:52,400
Speaker 2: I'm sious, like, how has my defense been playing?

1548
01:05:52,480 --> 01:05:54,280
Speaker 1: Well, you can't. How do you quantify that?

1549
01:05:54,520 --> 01:05:55,440
Speaker 2: Like exactly?

1550
01:05:55,880 --> 01:05:58,240
Speaker 8: But I just know, but how my defense is playing

1551
01:05:58,320 --> 01:05:59,960
Speaker 8: this game, I could make an argument to do either

1552
01:06:00,120 --> 01:06:03,440
Speaker 8: one like I just sort of mapped it out. I

1553
01:06:03,760 --> 01:06:06,600
Speaker 8: could make a strong argument to defend Andy reached decision

1554
01:06:06,640 --> 01:06:07,840
Speaker 8: based on how his defense.

1555
01:06:07,640 --> 01:06:10,280
Speaker 2: Was in that particular case, right yeah, okay.

1556
01:06:10,080 --> 01:06:12,320
Speaker 8: But everybody else said the opposite because the way the

1557
01:06:12,360 --> 01:06:14,720
Speaker 8: defense was playing, I punted the ball, right yeah.

1558
01:06:14,840 --> 01:06:16,560
Speaker 6: I just think that I just wish that when we

1559
01:06:16,640 --> 01:06:19,000
Speaker 6: talk about these things there was a little bit more

1560
01:06:19,160 --> 01:06:21,280
Speaker 6: education on the part of the people doing the talking

1561
01:06:21,720 --> 01:06:24,520
Speaker 6: to explain exactly how the teams are using it, because

1562
01:06:24,560 --> 01:06:28,920
Speaker 6: it has such a negative like stigma right now of

1563
01:06:29,240 --> 01:06:34,320
Speaker 6: like anti like of analytics, and yet this is what's driving.

1564
01:06:34,480 --> 01:06:36,840
Speaker 1: Ninety nine point nine percent of the decisions, and.

1565
01:06:36,800 --> 01:06:39,960
Speaker 3: The analytics were created to give nerds a reason to

1566
01:06:40,040 --> 01:06:43,560
Speaker 3: be involved. They grew up cannot be able to be

1567
01:06:43,720 --> 01:06:46,400
Speaker 3: involved in sports, and they've created a way. And I

1568
01:06:46,480 --> 01:06:49,720
Speaker 3: give them credit. They're very creative to be now involved

1569
01:06:49,760 --> 01:06:53,520
Speaker 3: in sports is where they grew up, not having a

1570
01:06:53,640 --> 01:06:54,480
Speaker 3: role in sports.

1571
01:06:54,520 --> 01:06:57,160
Speaker 2: They were one who's the side? I mean, so I

1572
01:06:57,200 --> 01:06:58,160
Speaker 2: would marginalize.

1573
01:06:58,200 --> 01:07:00,280
Speaker 3: I guess now they've become right in the middle, love

1574
01:07:00,320 --> 01:07:03,240
Speaker 3: it because they've creatively figured out a way to become

1575
01:07:03,320 --> 01:07:04,160
Speaker 3: involved in sports.

1576
01:07:04,280 --> 01:07:08,240
Speaker 2: All credit goes to them. Well, we just attack.

1577
01:07:10,040 --> 01:07:14,400
Speaker 1: At the So before you go real quick, Yes, you'd

1578
01:07:14,440 --> 01:07:14,959
Speaker 1: have to start.

1579
01:07:15,080 --> 01:07:16,920
Speaker 8: You'd have to do a lot to convince me that

1580
01:07:17,040 --> 01:07:20,360
Speaker 8: Dan Campbell was punching in time and score in the

1581
01:07:20,480 --> 01:07:22,440
Speaker 8: NFC Championship Game a couple of years ago.

1582
01:07:24,240 --> 01:07:26,320
Speaker 1: With a seventeen point lead. Yeah. I don't know.

1583
01:07:26,600 --> 01:07:29,520
Speaker 6: I I know that their nerds do. I don't know

1584
01:07:29,600 --> 01:07:32,840
Speaker 6: what Dan Campbell goes by. That's Dan Campbell question. But

1585
01:07:33,000 --> 01:07:36,680
Speaker 6: I again, it's not so much about like I just

1586
01:07:36,800 --> 01:07:40,200
Speaker 6: wish that we educated people better on because I'm telling

1587
01:07:40,280 --> 01:07:43,439
Speaker 6: you that all thirty two teams now have a nerd

1588
01:07:43,840 --> 01:07:46,360
Speaker 6: in the coaches booth that's telling them what the math

1589
01:07:46,480 --> 01:07:49,960
Speaker 6: is telling them. So like, this is what's driving the decisions.

1590
01:07:50,720 --> 01:07:53,920
Speaker 6: So instead of doing the Fred and finger wagging at it, like,

1591
01:07:54,080 --> 01:07:55,520
Speaker 6: let's just try to explain.

1592
01:07:56,760 --> 01:07:58,280
Speaker 1: Let's just try to explain it to people.

1593
01:07:58,760 --> 01:08:01,040
Speaker 6: You don't have to agree with it, yeah, but let's

1594
01:08:01,040 --> 01:08:03,040
Speaker 6: at least get the right messaging out there of this

1595
01:08:03,240 --> 01:08:04,280
Speaker 6: is what's going into it.

1596
01:08:04,600 --> 01:08:06,160
Speaker 1: I know what goes into it, so then you can

1597
01:08:06,200 --> 01:08:06,960
Speaker 1: make the decision.

1598
01:08:07,000 --> 01:08:09,160
Speaker 6: So I actually say, and I'm not saying you have

1599
01:08:09,280 --> 01:08:11,960
Speaker 6: to agree, I'm just saying, like, I just don't think

1600
01:08:12,000 --> 01:08:14,920
Speaker 6: that there's a very good education of what actually is happening.

1601
01:08:15,400 --> 01:08:16,280
Speaker 1: Yeah, I don't think.

1602
01:08:16,280 --> 01:08:18,040
Speaker 7: Well, it's the assumption that people are punching numbers in

1603
01:08:18,080 --> 01:08:20,360
Speaker 7: a computer and then whatever it says they're just doing.

1604
01:08:20,880 --> 01:08:23,320
Speaker 1: Yeah, okay, thank you, all right.

1605
01:08:24,240 --> 01:08:26,400
Speaker 8: And I would say like as a whole, and this

1606
01:08:26,520 --> 01:08:29,720
Speaker 8: is people might be surprised because while I've not done

1607
01:08:29,760 --> 01:08:32,920
Speaker 8: what Fred just did to dismiss the the the uh

1608
01:08:33,360 --> 01:08:35,800
Speaker 8: oh you want you want to do the nerds, I

1609
01:08:35,960 --> 01:08:38,280
Speaker 8: I generally do push back against the nerds a lot.

1610
01:08:38,920 --> 01:08:42,439
Speaker 8: I love that the nerds have at least allowed the

1611
01:08:42,520 --> 01:08:44,400
Speaker 8: coaches to open their minds a little bit and be

1612
01:08:44,439 --> 01:08:46,360
Speaker 8: a little bit more creative when it comes to some

1613
01:08:46,439 --> 01:08:48,599
Speaker 8: of these in game decisions. I think that's a good

1614
01:08:48,680 --> 01:08:51,680
Speaker 8: development for the league. Too often it was, well, it's

1615
01:08:51,760 --> 01:08:54,720
Speaker 8: fourth down, we kick here, whether it be field goal

1616
01:08:54,880 --> 01:08:56,759
Speaker 8: or punt, let's go to Mike Vrabel.

1617
01:08:57,360 --> 01:09:03,360
Speaker 5: Send anything we can. Well, wishes to Kevin and Letitia Falk.

1618
01:09:03,439 --> 01:09:06,960
Speaker 5: Obviously we're all heartbroken. Kevin was a teammate. He's a

1619
01:09:07,320 --> 01:09:11,760
Speaker 5: huge part of this legacy here, this football team, and

1620
01:09:12,720 --> 01:09:15,760
Speaker 5: you know the impact that he made and here and

1621
01:09:16,080 --> 01:09:18,479
Speaker 5: coaching in college, and how much he loved LSU. And

1622
01:09:18,520 --> 01:09:21,160
Speaker 5: I'm sure that they like there's no words to describe

1623
01:09:21,200 --> 01:09:24,599
Speaker 5: what they're going through, but just wanted to make sure

1624
01:09:24,680 --> 01:09:29,160
Speaker 5: that everybody knows that we care deeply about Kevin and

1625
01:09:29,240 --> 01:09:31,599
Speaker 5: his family, and our thoughts and our prayers are with them.

1626
01:09:31,720 --> 01:09:37,160
Speaker 5: So obviously a tough time for that, but we have to,

1627
01:09:37,439 --> 01:09:39,960
Speaker 5: you know, prepare here. I appreciate it.

1628
01:09:40,240 --> 01:09:46,880
Speaker 6: Thank you, given mistakes of the atmosphere, the opponent win

1629
01:09:47,000 --> 01:09:50,280
Speaker 6: or lose. Do you see this game as kind of being.

1630
01:09:50,400 --> 01:09:52,439
Speaker 1: Valuable prep for what might apply.

1631
01:09:52,400 --> 01:09:55,439
Speaker 5: Ahead assuming you get in Puss Well, I hope that

1632
01:09:55,560 --> 01:09:58,720
Speaker 5: everything we do we only get seventeen opportunities, right, so

1633
01:09:59,000 --> 01:10:01,160
Speaker 5: that all of that hap us to be valuable. Prep

1634
01:10:04,720 --> 01:10:06,680
Speaker 5: you know, they all they all count the same at

1635
01:10:06,680 --> 01:10:10,160
Speaker 5: the end. You know, this is a great stage that

1636
01:10:10,240 --> 01:10:14,080
Speaker 5: we put ourselves on and that's exciting. But obviously hopefully

1637
01:10:14,160 --> 01:10:19,000
Speaker 5: we've been able to draw from from different opportunities that

1638
01:10:19,120 --> 01:10:22,800
Speaker 5: we've had too to help us. And so what we're

1639
01:10:22,840 --> 01:10:27,240
Speaker 5: focused on is is the previous opportunities that can help

1640
01:10:27,320 --> 01:10:30,760
Speaker 5: us this week, and then whatever we're able to learn

1641
01:10:31,840 --> 01:10:34,080
Speaker 5: from the game on Sunday going forward to help us

1642
01:10:34,120 --> 01:10:35,479
Speaker 5: the next week. That's what we're trying to do.

1643
01:10:36,240 --> 01:10:37,960
Speaker 2: Like what are some of the challenges of the second

1644
01:10:38,000 --> 01:10:39,879
Speaker 2: meeting in the the vision that you've seen.

1645
01:10:39,720 --> 01:10:45,479
Speaker 5: Over the years, they've they've changed, they've continued to evolve,

1646
01:10:45,600 --> 01:10:50,680
Speaker 5: and you know, they've continued to improve. And again we

1647
01:10:50,800 --> 01:10:53,840
Speaker 5: talked about the respect that that we have for them

1648
01:10:53,920 --> 01:10:59,280
Speaker 5: as a as a football team. Players and coaches. Just

1649
01:10:59,720 --> 01:11:02,840
Speaker 5: draw on some games here in the past. I mean,

1650
01:11:02,880 --> 01:11:06,400
Speaker 5: it's twenty to ten. In our game, they didn't bat

1651
01:11:06,479 --> 01:11:08,120
Speaker 5: an eye. They came back and tied it in the

1652
01:11:08,160 --> 01:11:10,760
Speaker 5: fourth quarter. We were up two scores in the fourth quarter.

1653
01:11:11,560 --> 01:11:14,120
Speaker 5: You know, we needed our best execution and kick to

1654
01:11:14,200 --> 01:11:17,800
Speaker 5: win it. Well, it was the Tampa Bay game, you know,

1655
01:11:17,960 --> 01:11:24,680
Speaker 5: being down and then winning the game going away, Pittsburgh

1656
01:11:24,840 --> 01:11:27,519
Speaker 5: down seven to three and then really just played tremendous

1657
01:11:27,520 --> 01:11:31,200
Speaker 5: football in a second half, and then last week to

1658
01:11:31,400 --> 01:11:33,760
Speaker 5: score a game with eight minutes to go in the

1659
01:11:33,840 --> 01:11:37,200
Speaker 5: fourth quarter. So never any panic over there. That's a

1660
01:11:37,320 --> 01:11:40,800
Speaker 5: veteran team. This is They're familiar with their program. So

1661
01:11:41,760 --> 01:11:44,880
Speaker 5: however the game unfolds, it'll we'll have to do everything

1662
01:11:44,960 --> 01:11:49,280
Speaker 5: that we can to play the entire four quarters or

1663
01:11:49,600 --> 01:11:51,720
Speaker 5: then some if we need to. Mike, I know that

1664
01:11:52,560 --> 01:11:54,719
Speaker 5: Buffalo is chalented all across the board.

1665
01:11:54,800 --> 01:11:57,719
Speaker 17: But in terms of their offense, how important did Josh

1666
01:11:57,760 --> 01:11:59,720
Speaker 17: Allen is the tight end part of that?

1667
01:12:00,080 --> 01:12:03,000
Speaker 5: That's I think that's grown. I think that you know,

1668
01:12:03,040 --> 01:12:05,280
Speaker 5: I mean, you could see when ken Kaid's back out there,

1669
01:12:05,360 --> 01:12:09,120
Speaker 5: the the matchup and his skill set and in the

1670
01:12:09,200 --> 01:12:14,519
Speaker 5: passing game, you know, great speed and athleticism, catch radius,

1671
01:12:16,080 --> 01:12:21,760
Speaker 5: very quarterback friendly. Obviously Dawson does a little bit of both,

1672
01:12:23,439 --> 01:12:25,280
Speaker 5: and the Hawes has just you know, been able to

1673
01:12:25,920 --> 01:12:32,240
Speaker 5: really I would say, not only neutralized, but moved the

1674
01:12:32,320 --> 01:12:36,920
Speaker 5: line of scrimmage on his responsibilities, and I think they

1675
01:12:37,040 --> 01:12:41,200
Speaker 5: just continued to evolve in that regard and using you know,

1676
01:12:41,479 --> 01:12:42,360
Speaker 5: all three of those.

1677
01:12:42,240 --> 01:12:45,920
Speaker 1: Guys, like the people in Las Vegas, have you guys

1678
01:12:46,080 --> 01:12:47,000
Speaker 1: as underdogs?

1679
01:12:47,160 --> 01:12:47,640
Speaker 5: Sunday An?

1680
01:12:47,800 --> 01:12:48,479
Speaker 1: Who are the people?

1681
01:12:48,600 --> 01:12:48,760
Speaker 5: Ben?

1682
01:12:50,280 --> 01:12:50,439
Speaker 10: There?

1683
01:12:50,520 --> 01:12:54,040
Speaker 5: You go are? They're called odds makers, not people. There's

1684
01:12:54,040 --> 01:12:56,080
Speaker 5: a lot of people in Las Vegas like they only

1685
01:12:56,479 --> 01:12:58,240
Speaker 5: there's only a few of them that they trust to

1686
01:12:59,080 --> 01:12:59,719
Speaker 5: set the line.

1687
01:13:00,320 --> 01:13:03,200
Speaker 1: So do you pay attention to that? I mean, do

1688
01:13:03,320 --> 01:13:03,840
Speaker 1: you notice that?

1689
01:13:04,600 --> 01:13:06,320
Speaker 10: M No?

1690
01:13:06,560 --> 01:13:09,040
Speaker 5: I mean again it gets brought to attention. I don't

1691
01:13:09,080 --> 01:13:13,400
Speaker 5: think that, you know. I mean it's every week you see,

1692
01:13:15,160 --> 01:13:18,479
Speaker 5: you know in this league that records really don't mean anything,

1693
01:13:18,640 --> 01:13:23,559
Speaker 5: and you know, the point spreads and survivor polls get

1694
01:13:23,640 --> 01:13:26,120
Speaker 5: blown up every week and all that other stuff. So

1695
01:13:27,120 --> 01:13:29,640
Speaker 5: we're just trying to focus on our preparation here and

1696
01:13:29,680 --> 01:13:33,519
Speaker 5: get back into it. You know, had a good day Monday,

1697
01:13:34,120 --> 01:13:37,920
Speaker 5: excited about the meetings thus far today and then you know,

1698
01:13:38,240 --> 01:13:42,280
Speaker 5: progressed through the week, been out for the last couple

1699
01:13:42,320 --> 01:13:42,679
Speaker 5: of games.

1700
01:13:42,720 --> 01:13:44,320
Speaker 1: What have you seen the proper Jonsters?

1701
01:13:44,320 --> 01:13:45,920
Speaker 10: Because some good guys like Quarter and Eric.

1702
01:13:47,600 --> 01:13:50,599
Speaker 5: Yeah, and I think Corey's continue to improve and play

1703
01:13:50,600 --> 01:13:53,320
Speaker 5: a lot of football for us and Eric's you know,

1704
01:13:53,439 --> 01:13:56,080
Speaker 5: taking the opportunities on Thursdays that we've had and those

1705
01:13:56,120 --> 01:14:00,920
Speaker 5: competitive practices to get better and to get better, and

1706
01:14:01,640 --> 01:14:04,040
Speaker 5: you know, again we'll need everybody up front. You know

1707
01:14:04,760 --> 01:14:08,120
Speaker 5: how important the ability to stop the run is this week,

1708
01:14:08,240 --> 01:14:10,960
Speaker 5: and you know that's just a large part of what

1709
01:14:11,080 --> 01:14:12,720
Speaker 5: they do. They have a lot of confidence in it.

1710
01:14:13,200 --> 01:14:14,960
Speaker 5: Not the only thing that they do. They do a

1711
01:14:15,000 --> 01:14:18,320
Speaker 5: lot of things well, but you know, certainly they're gonna

1712
01:14:18,360 --> 01:14:21,559
Speaker 5: run it until you stop them, and then they're gonna

1713
01:14:21,560 --> 01:14:22,400
Speaker 5: have everything off of it.

1714
01:14:23,960 --> 01:14:27,400
Speaker 12: Josh Allen's long touchdown around last week, so it was

1715
01:14:27,400 --> 01:14:29,799
Speaker 12: a defensive back who was still covering a wide receiver.

1716
01:14:30,640 --> 01:14:33,599
Speaker 12: Is Josh Allen's running into the end zone And I'm

1717
01:14:33,600 --> 01:14:35,720
Speaker 12: just thinking on that's the perfect example why you don't

1718
01:14:35,720 --> 01:14:38,000
Speaker 12: want to play man against Alan.

1719
01:14:38,040 --> 01:14:40,680
Speaker 1: Does he remove things that you can do defensively because of.

1720
01:14:40,720 --> 01:14:43,120
Speaker 5: His worth killing Well, you just have to Again, I

1721
01:14:43,160 --> 01:14:45,640
Speaker 5: don't think you can sit in any one thing. And

1722
01:14:47,080 --> 01:14:49,600
Speaker 5: certainly there's situations where you have to play man in

1723
01:14:49,680 --> 01:14:54,640
Speaker 5: this league and you have to be on body. But

1724
01:14:54,760 --> 01:14:56,920
Speaker 5: then again there's other things that then have to account

1725
01:14:56,960 --> 01:15:00,760
Speaker 5: when you have an athletic quarterback you're gonna account for

1726
01:15:00,800 --> 01:15:03,960
Speaker 5: the extra gap or the ability to scramble, uh to

1727
01:15:04,280 --> 01:15:08,559
Speaker 5: extend plays and all those different things. So I don't

1728
01:15:08,560 --> 01:15:11,759
Speaker 5: think that there's one particular coverage or defense or blitz

1729
01:15:11,800 --> 01:15:14,720
Speaker 5: that you can sit there and be in the entire game.

1730
01:15:14,800 --> 01:15:18,760
Speaker 5: I think it's about picking the opportunities and then you know,

1731
01:15:18,800 --> 01:15:22,000
Speaker 5: when you get an opportunity to make a play on him,

1732
01:15:22,040 --> 01:15:24,479
Speaker 5: you got to do everything that you can to you know,

1733
01:15:24,560 --> 01:15:26,240
Speaker 5: to get him on the ground and not jump when

1734
01:15:26,240 --> 01:15:29,320
Speaker 5: he pumped fakes or fall down when he's steph arms

1735
01:15:29,360 --> 01:15:30,080
Speaker 5: you or anything else.

1736
01:15:31,439 --> 01:15:34,439
Speaker 20: Five when you were you held kamstupt on your fifty

1737
01:15:34,960 --> 01:15:35,639
Speaker 20: rushing yards.

1738
01:15:35,920 --> 01:15:37,519
Speaker 6: I'm just curious when you look back at that film,

1739
01:15:37,560 --> 01:15:40,920
Speaker 6: what allowed defense to be so effective in limiting that

1740
01:15:41,000 --> 01:15:41,400
Speaker 6: run game?

1741
01:15:43,240 --> 01:15:44,960
Speaker 5: Well, I mean, I think the way that we got

1742
01:15:45,040 --> 01:15:46,800
Speaker 5: you know, we were able to get a lead there

1743
01:15:46,920 --> 01:15:50,200
Speaker 5: and probably limited some of the carries in the second half,

1744
01:15:50,280 --> 01:15:53,280
Speaker 5: and that the way that the game unfolded. But you know,

1745
01:15:53,640 --> 01:15:56,040
Speaker 5: I think early on in the ability for our offense

1746
01:15:56,120 --> 01:16:00,960
Speaker 5: to you possess the ball, you know, we'll have to

1747
01:16:01,040 --> 01:16:03,400
Speaker 5: do everything we did in that game and then some

1748
01:16:03,680 --> 01:16:07,880
Speaker 5: to you know, try to neutralize him in the run game.

1749
01:16:08,360 --> 01:16:11,040
Speaker 2: I'll enjoyable has been to coach Mac Hollins this season

1750
01:16:11,080 --> 01:16:11,559
Speaker 2: and what's he.

1751
01:16:11,600 --> 01:16:12,280
Speaker 1: Meant to his team?

1752
01:16:12,680 --> 01:16:15,320
Speaker 5: Mat brings a great spirit, you know, to work every day.

1753
01:16:16,280 --> 01:16:19,800
Speaker 5: It's a great teammate. You know. I actually showed a clip,

1754
01:16:20,439 --> 01:16:22,679
Speaker 5: you know, from the first game on a kickoff coverage

1755
01:16:22,720 --> 01:16:26,439
Speaker 5: and maxed over there, excited and not going in the game,

1756
01:16:26,520 --> 01:16:31,639
Speaker 5: but he's into it. Somebody made a tackle and Max

1757
01:16:31,760 --> 01:16:34,000
Speaker 5: the first one cheering on the sidelines. And those are

1758
01:16:34,040 --> 01:16:36,720
Speaker 5: the little things that that mean a lot, I think

1759
01:16:36,800 --> 01:16:40,160
Speaker 5: to me. So again, we we asked him to do

1760
01:16:40,200 --> 01:16:42,760
Speaker 5: a lot of different things, and you know, again, I

1761
01:16:42,840 --> 01:16:44,800
Speaker 5: think just the spirit that he brings to work and

1762
01:16:45,600 --> 01:16:46,560
Speaker 5: the teammate that he is.

1763
01:16:47,320 --> 01:16:49,240
Speaker 4: Believe the Bills us fought me in protection to one

1764
01:16:49,240 --> 01:16:50,479
Speaker 4: of the highest rates in the league.

1765
01:16:50,600 --> 01:16:52,080
Speaker 5: What allows him to live in that world?

1766
01:16:52,160 --> 01:16:54,320
Speaker 1: And also how do you weigh the balance between wanted.

1767
01:16:54,080 --> 01:16:56,080
Speaker 5: To play coverage and rushing against that kind of stame.

1768
01:16:58,640 --> 01:17:01,320
Speaker 5: I mean, I think when a quarterback and again you

1769
01:17:01,439 --> 01:17:05,240
Speaker 5: bring six and they block five quarterbacks got the sixth one,

1770
01:17:05,400 --> 01:17:11,400
Speaker 5: so he pump fakes him or spins or stiff arms him.

1771
01:17:13,840 --> 01:17:15,960
Speaker 5: You know, I think Josh just has a good ability

1772
01:17:16,040 --> 01:17:21,519
Speaker 5: to know when he's hot or no, you know where

1773
01:17:21,560 --> 01:17:24,360
Speaker 5: he needs to go with football, and and you know,

1774
01:17:24,840 --> 01:17:26,640
Speaker 5: even if it's a four man rush, I don't think

1775
01:17:26,680 --> 01:17:30,800
Speaker 5: he ever really panics and he's able to extend or

1776
01:17:31,120 --> 01:17:33,760
Speaker 5: just find where he wants to go with football and

1777
01:17:34,439 --> 01:17:39,160
Speaker 5: when they do get five out and so. And then

1778
01:17:39,160 --> 01:17:43,040
Speaker 5: the other question was what did you ask me about

1779
01:17:43,400 --> 01:17:45,879
Speaker 5: when do we need to pressure and when we decide

1780
01:17:45,880 --> 01:17:50,519
Speaker 5: to just again we have to mix it up. I

1781
01:17:50,640 --> 01:17:56,120
Speaker 5: think you just have to, huh, you know, pick and

1782
01:17:56,200 --> 01:17:58,280
Speaker 5: choose your spots. And again, you wanna be sound and

1783
01:17:58,680 --> 01:18:00,760
Speaker 5: everything that you do, you know, you don't want to

1784
01:18:01,880 --> 01:18:03,920
Speaker 5: just leave it up to chance and hope that he's

1785
01:18:03,960 --> 01:18:05,680
Speaker 5: not gonna find somebody. You want to make sure that

1786
01:18:05,760 --> 01:18:08,200
Speaker 5: everybody's covered or that zones are accounted for and that

1787
01:18:09,400 --> 01:18:12,439
Speaker 5: you know, the rush lanes are sound and that you

1788
01:18:12,600 --> 01:18:17,320
Speaker 5: have an ability to you know, defend and you can't

1789
01:18:17,520 --> 01:18:20,240
Speaker 5: be cautious, but you have to, you know, be sound.

1790
01:18:20,280 --> 01:18:21,559
Speaker 5: I think like all your.

1791
01:18:21,479 --> 01:18:24,400
Speaker 10: Time in the league, what common allies have you seen,

1792
01:18:24,720 --> 01:18:27,160
Speaker 10: the rivalries you've participated in, do you see any of

1793
01:18:27,200 --> 01:18:29,160
Speaker 10: those elements possibly here with Bubbalo?

1794
01:18:31,640 --> 01:18:34,720
Speaker 5: M I just got here. So I mean again, I

1795
01:18:34,840 --> 01:18:37,000
Speaker 5: know that they've won the division five years in a row.

1796
01:18:37,720 --> 01:18:39,960
Speaker 5: I don't think there's really much of a rivalry for

1797
01:18:40,560 --> 01:18:43,360
Speaker 5: those years. Maybe not. I don't know. I wasn't paying

1798
01:18:43,400 --> 01:18:46,920
Speaker 5: any attention to it. I'm just focused on a very

1799
01:18:46,960 --> 01:18:51,320
Speaker 5: good football team that you know is used to winning,

1800
01:18:51,560 --> 01:18:56,320
Speaker 5: and they're determined and they're resilient, and you know we'll

1801
01:18:56,360 --> 01:18:57,120
Speaker 5: have to be at our best.

1802
01:18:57,960 --> 01:19:01,120
Speaker 10: So mentioned sound rush lanes you're blitzing or not? And

1803
01:19:01,560 --> 01:19:04,160
Speaker 10: how important is it this week against Allen to try to.

1804
01:19:04,280 --> 01:19:05,080
Speaker 1: Keep him in the pocket.

1805
01:19:07,040 --> 01:19:08,479
Speaker 5: Well, you keep me in the pocket, and he's just

1806
01:19:08,520 --> 01:19:10,640
Speaker 5: gonna stand there and wait for somebody to uncover. So

1807
01:19:12,000 --> 01:19:14,360
Speaker 5: you know, I mean again that's there. I mean you

1808
01:19:14,400 --> 01:19:16,040
Speaker 5: can keep me in the pocket. You can stand there

1809
01:19:16,040 --> 01:19:17,800
Speaker 5: and we can we can all just stand there and

1810
01:19:18,600 --> 01:19:22,160
Speaker 5: he'll do you know, he'll do this, And I mean

1811
01:19:22,200 --> 01:19:27,400
Speaker 5: you have to just again, coordinated and relentless is probably

1812
01:19:27,520 --> 01:19:33,280
Speaker 5: the best way to to phrase it. And because again

1813
01:19:33,360 --> 01:19:34,920
Speaker 5: you say we'll keep me in the pocket, and then

1814
01:19:34,960 --> 01:19:37,200
Speaker 5: guys are just standing there and they're cautious, and we

1815
01:19:37,280 --> 01:19:39,400
Speaker 5: don't want to we want to coach that way. We

1816
01:19:39,680 --> 01:19:44,000
Speaker 5: want to make sure that we're trying to remain aggressive.

1817
01:19:44,360 --> 01:19:49,519
Speaker 5: But certainly sound and you know when he does extend,

1818
01:19:49,560 --> 01:19:52,360
Speaker 5: then we're gonna need a plaster and you know, have guys,

1819
01:19:52,600 --> 01:19:54,680
Speaker 5: you know, be able to to come up and help us.

1820
01:19:55,240 --> 01:19:58,560
Speaker 8: Like, how do you feel about the offense's ability to

1821
01:19:58,680 --> 01:20:01,560
Speaker 8: improve some of the short yard and red zone and

1822
01:20:01,600 --> 01:20:03,200
Speaker 8: issues that have acrop the last few weeks?

1823
01:20:05,560 --> 01:20:07,479
Speaker 5: Feel good? Feel good like I do about everything that

1824
01:20:07,520 --> 01:20:10,360
Speaker 5: we're trying to coach and improve. And you know, there's

1825
01:20:10,400 --> 01:20:12,280
Speaker 5: things that we've done really well, there's things that we've

1826
01:20:12,320 --> 01:20:18,840
Speaker 5: done okay. So again, whatever situation it is that comes up,

1827
01:20:18,920 --> 01:20:23,400
Speaker 5: will have to be prepared for it and be able

1828
01:20:23,479 --> 01:20:27,840
Speaker 5: to extend drives no matter what the down and distance is.

1829
01:20:27,920 --> 01:20:33,080
Speaker 5: And I think most importantly, you know, have a understanding

1830
01:20:33,120 --> 01:20:36,000
Speaker 5: of how critical the red zone is when you get

1831
01:20:36,040 --> 01:20:39,960
Speaker 5: down there, and that everything that we've been preaching and

1832
01:20:40,040 --> 01:20:44,160
Speaker 5: talking about will have to continue to execute and make

1833
01:20:44,240 --> 01:20:48,960
Speaker 5: sure that we're doing everything we can to get touchdowns

1834
01:20:48,960 --> 01:20:52,559
Speaker 5: and the difference that that makes and close ball games

1835
01:20:52,720 --> 01:20:55,680
Speaker 5: and force them to kick field goals. The same thing

1836
01:20:55,720 --> 01:20:59,479
Speaker 5: can be said defensively. So I think we were both

1837
01:20:59,560 --> 01:21:02,920
Speaker 5: too for or last game. And you know again that

1838
01:21:03,520 --> 01:21:06,760
Speaker 5: in a close game, that's about what it turned out

1839
01:21:06,800 --> 01:21:08,560
Speaker 5: to be we made a kick at the end, and

1840
01:21:08,680 --> 01:21:10,360
Speaker 5: so if we can try to get him the kickfield

1841
01:21:10,400 --> 01:21:13,360
Speaker 5: goals or attemp field goals, and we'll have to try

1842
01:21:13,400 --> 01:21:15,000
Speaker 5: to do everything we can to score touchdowns.

1843
01:21:15,439 --> 01:21:17,880
Speaker 10: Joe Brady the way he calls the game, obviously they're

1844
01:21:17,920 --> 01:21:19,439
Speaker 10: confident of the run game. And Josh, do you see

1845
01:21:19,479 --> 01:21:21,759
Speaker 10: them as more of a game plan week tweak offense

1846
01:21:21,840 --> 01:21:22,240
Speaker 10: or kind of do.

1847
01:21:22,360 --> 01:21:24,200
Speaker 1: What we do operation?

1848
01:21:25,080 --> 01:21:26,960
Speaker 5: I mean, I think there's elements of both. I think

1849
01:21:27,000 --> 01:21:29,439
Speaker 5: that they have their stuff that's staple that they dress

1850
01:21:29,520 --> 01:21:32,160
Speaker 5: up a little bit, and they have this sometimes some

1851
01:21:32,320 --> 01:21:36,800
Speaker 5: game plan plays that that show up. You know that

1852
01:21:36,880 --> 01:21:40,240
Speaker 5: they find great ways to disguise and give it a

1853
01:21:40,320 --> 01:21:42,680
Speaker 5: different presentation. Thank you.

1854
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1893
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Speaker 4: Are indeed the champions of the Americans Football Conference with.

1894
01:23:54,320 --> 01:23:56,920
Speaker 7: The National Football rad What do you remember about the

1895
01:23:57,000 --> 01:23:58,360
Speaker 7: nineteen eighty five Patriots.

1896
01:23:58,640 --> 01:23:59,559
Speaker 14: We got the sun.

1897
01:24:00,680 --> 01:24:01,439
Speaker 4: Now we're gonna win the.

1898
01:24:01,479 --> 01:24:04,800
Speaker 1: Next team that made New England believe.

1899
01:24:05,040 --> 01:24:07,320
Speaker 7: If you have a group of people that can pull

1900
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1901
01:24:10,640 --> 01:24:13,200
Speaker 7: what you can do. Now forty years later, we're going

1902
01:24:13,280 --> 01:24:15,280
Speaker 7: back to revisit the team that changed everything.

1903
01:24:15,479 --> 01:24:18,879
Speaker 8: That eighty five season really put us in the spotlight

1904
01:24:18,960 --> 01:24:21,360
Speaker 8: of Boston and Massachusetts and New England.

1905
01:24:21,439 --> 01:24:26,600
Speaker 17: We were the first whoever breakthrough in the playoffs and

1906
01:24:26,840 --> 01:24:29,400
Speaker 17: breakthrough could get to the super Bowl.

1907
01:24:29,760 --> 01:24:31,840
Speaker 1: We're the first game to ever go to the super Bowl.

1908
01:24:32,000 --> 01:24:36,160
Speaker 2: Let me rest we were the very first to get

1909
01:24:36,240 --> 01:24:38,400
Speaker 2: this franchise to a super Bowl.

1910
01:24:38,640 --> 01:24:40,880
Speaker 1: Here reflections from the players and coaches who lived it.

1911
01:24:41,360 --> 01:24:46,759
Speaker 21: Raymond Barry brought that team together, and team was the reason,

1912
01:24:47,120 --> 01:24:49,080
Speaker 21: there's no question about if he goes to read and

1913
01:24:49,960 --> 01:24:52,080
Speaker 21: we got to the super Bowl and we had a

1914
01:24:52,160 --> 01:24:54,800
Speaker 21: lot of fun getting them, know.

1915
01:24:54,920 --> 01:25:04,120
Speaker 11: You man, they were a special grip in roll right

1916
01:25:04,240 --> 01:25:07,920
Speaker 11: because they were well grounded and they came to the

1917
01:25:08,040 --> 01:25:13,479
Speaker 11: mentality that of what it really does pay to be

1918
01:25:13,720 --> 01:25:14,920
Speaker 11: a good football team.

1919
01:25:15,200 --> 01:25:17,960
Speaker 7: Mixed with the unforgettable sounds of the nineteen eighty five season.

1920
01:25:18,120 --> 01:25:19,400
Speaker 1: Let's go, Let's.

1921
01:25:25,200 --> 01:25:28,280
Speaker 12: Stays Jason's day, Baby, I'm too young to remove that

1922
01:25:28,360 --> 01:25:29,760
Speaker 12: in nobody.

1923
01:25:29,520 --> 01:25:31,920
Speaker 7: Is from the fumble drills and the goalposts walking down

1924
01:25:32,000 --> 01:25:34,679
Speaker 7: Route one to squish the fish and bury the Bears.

1925
01:25:34,920 --> 01:25:37,280
Speaker 7: Join us for another edition of the Patriots Super Bowl

1926
01:25:37,400 --> 01:25:40,799
Speaker 7: Sound Odyssey nineteen eighty five, a ten part podcast available

1927
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1928
01:25:51,920 --> 01:25:53,960
Speaker 1: And now great moments in.

1929
01:25:56,280 --> 01:26:01,840
Speaker 8: History, time of day, like second minute, hour is the

1930
01:26:01,920 --> 01:26:04,600
Speaker 8: agent that word silent it is They also have the

1931
01:26:04,640 --> 01:26:05,040
Speaker 8: same to me.

1932
01:26:05,600 --> 01:26:08,800
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's that's the that's how that's the difference hour.

1933
01:26:09,000 --> 01:26:12,760
Speaker 22: You are correct, Mike, How to most of us. Is

1934
01:26:12,840 --> 01:26:16,920
Speaker 22: it our house or our house? Our house in the

1935
01:26:16,960 --> 01:26:19,320
Speaker 22: middle of the street. Eric, you you know what a

1936
01:26:19,439 --> 01:26:20,040
Speaker 22: dictionary is.

1937
01:26:20,120 --> 01:26:21,240
Speaker 1: You just look it up.

1938
01:26:21,439 --> 01:26:24,000
Speaker 7: You just completely butchered the name of a town in

1939
01:26:24,120 --> 01:26:26,320
Speaker 7: Massachusetts on a call earlier this morning.

1940
01:26:26,360 --> 01:26:29,520
Speaker 2: Syllable you should easily know. Look it up, Eric, Gloucester.

1941
01:26:29,800 --> 01:26:33,240
Speaker 22: Don't take my I live in Gloucester, mad Eric, don't

1942
01:26:33,280 --> 01:26:34,720
Speaker 22: take my word for Gloucester.

1943
01:26:35,080 --> 01:26:37,000
Speaker 2: Eric, do not take my word for it.

1944
01:26:37,680 --> 01:26:38,320
Speaker 1: I don't look.

1945
01:26:38,360 --> 01:26:39,960
Speaker 2: I don't make your word for anything. Look it up.

1946
01:26:40,080 --> 01:26:41,760
Speaker 2: How many syllables does oh you are?

1947
01:26:41,920 --> 01:26:41,960
Speaker 5: Have?

1948
01:26:42,280 --> 01:26:42,760
Speaker 2: Look it up.

1949
01:26:42,960 --> 01:26:44,240
Speaker 1: I don't have a dictionary in front of me.

1950
01:26:45,960 --> 01:26:48,240
Speaker 2: Have one upstairs. Don't print it out. We have this

1951
01:26:48,360 --> 01:26:50,639
Speaker 2: thing called the internet, you know. Look it up. Don't

1952
01:26:50,640 --> 01:26:51,519
Speaker 2: take my word for it.

1953
01:26:52,080 --> 01:26:55,080
Speaker 1: Matt, go ahead, look it up. How many syllables in

1954
01:26:55,200 --> 01:26:57,720
Speaker 1: the word oh you are? And what are you saying? One?

1955
01:26:57,920 --> 01:26:58,080
Speaker 2: One?

1956
01:26:58,280 --> 01:26:58,400
Speaker 21: One?

1957
01:26:59,320 --> 01:27:01,439
Speaker 9: He's saying that word a R E and oh you

1958
01:27:01,560 --> 01:27:03,679
Speaker 9: are are pronounced exactly the same our.

1959
01:27:05,880 --> 01:27:07,479
Speaker 2: One. One.

1960
01:27:08,400 --> 01:27:12,519
Speaker 1: There you go, and there it is our Paul, and

1961
01:27:12,640 --> 01:27:13,439
Speaker 1: there it is Paul.

1962
01:27:14,040 --> 01:27:16,000
Speaker 9: It's technology right now.

1963
01:27:18,439 --> 01:27:22,840
Speaker 2: Our who's saying that? Somebody from China?

1964
01:27:22,960 --> 01:27:27,080
Speaker 7: Dictionary the dictionary pronunciation you told me to look it up.

1965
01:27:27,640 --> 01:27:29,760
Speaker 1: I looked it up in the dictionary and it has

1966
01:27:29,840 --> 01:27:30,480
Speaker 1: the pronunciation.

1967
01:27:30,560 --> 01:27:34,000
Speaker 2: How many audibles our? Hour? He just said one?

1968
01:27:34,439 --> 01:27:35,840
Speaker 1: Well, I just I'm just playing.

1969
01:27:35,840 --> 01:27:38,880
Speaker 2: Am not listening to the position. Let me see that hour,

1970
01:27:39,040 --> 01:27:39,560
Speaker 2: Let me see it.

1971
01:27:41,200 --> 01:27:43,840
Speaker 5: Let me so.

1972
01:27:43,920 --> 01:27:44,920
Speaker 1: Fred's picking up the phone.

1973
01:27:44,960 --> 01:27:45,120
Speaker 3: Now.

1974
01:27:45,320 --> 01:27:49,040
Speaker 8: It has the little it has the little pronunciation. Guy,

1975
01:27:49,600 --> 01:27:50,439
Speaker 8: how you pronounce it?

1976
01:27:51,240 --> 01:27:52,599
Speaker 1: Did you hear how it was pronounced?

1977
01:27:52,760 --> 01:27:53,160
Speaker 2: It's one.

1978
01:27:53,360 --> 01:27:56,160
Speaker 1: I don't know how many syllables it is. It's pronounced our.

1979
01:27:56,439 --> 01:27:58,479
Speaker 2: Yeah, hour, it is not our.

1980
01:27:58,920 --> 01:28:03,439
Speaker 1: That's another great moment, Paul.

1981
01:28:03,479 --> 01:28:06,840
Speaker 2: You've done with your Christmas shop and yet yeah you are?

1982
01:28:07,040 --> 01:28:09,439
Speaker 8: I am, well not everyone is, no, I know some

1983
01:28:09,560 --> 01:28:10,440
Speaker 8: people procrastinate.

1984
01:28:10,520 --> 01:28:10,720
Speaker 1: Fred.

1985
01:28:10,840 --> 01:28:13,320
Speaker 3: And if you're still searching for the perfect holiday gift,

1986
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1987
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Speaker 3: gifting now at Bob's Shop everything from feature pack living

1988
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Speaker 3: room seating to cozy electric fireplaces just in time for

1989
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Speaker 3: Game Day. Plus discover storage solutions and versatile bedroom options

1990
01:28:30,200 --> 01:28:33,920
Speaker 3: for any space, making holiday hosting easier than ever. Stop

1991
01:28:34,000 --> 01:28:38,879
Speaker 3: in or shop online by December eighteenth for delivery by Christmas.

1992
01:28:39,120 --> 01:28:41,479
Speaker 3: So if you want to buy Christmas by December eighteenth,

1993
01:28:41,720 --> 01:28:44,599
Speaker 3: you need to place your order and snag winning offers

1994
01:28:44,640 --> 01:28:47,519
Speaker 3: on gifts this year with Bob's Discount Furniture, the official

1995
01:28:47,560 --> 01:28:49,839
Speaker 3: furniture store of the New England Patriots.

1996
01:28:51,160 --> 01:28:53,080
Speaker 2: It's kind of hard to wrap a couch.

1997
01:28:52,880 --> 01:28:57,600
Speaker 1: Though, you know, Yeah, got a big, big TV for

1998
01:28:57,720 --> 01:28:58,280
Speaker 1: my parents.

1999
01:28:58,439 --> 01:29:00,840
Speaker 8: Yeah that were you know, all the kids are giving

2000
01:29:00,880 --> 01:29:03,840
Speaker 8: them and having a hard time wrapping that right now.

2001
01:29:04,200 --> 01:29:06,000
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, it's big big.

2002
01:29:06,200 --> 01:29:07,720
Speaker 8: I think Beth is going to try to get one

2003
01:29:07,760 --> 01:29:09,280
Speaker 8: of those bags. So this is what you do it

2004
01:29:09,360 --> 01:29:11,120
Speaker 8: in and you're like, almost like a sack.

2005
01:29:11,240 --> 01:29:12,760
Speaker 2: This is what you do. This is how you do it.

2006
01:29:12,880 --> 01:29:13,400
Speaker 5: How do you do it?

2007
01:29:14,600 --> 01:29:18,439
Speaker 3: They open up a car and it says, go into

2008
01:29:18,520 --> 01:29:21,880
Speaker 3: the other room to see what this is. So that

2009
01:29:21,960 --> 01:29:23,760
Speaker 3: way you don't have to worry about it sitting there.

2010
01:29:23,800 --> 01:29:26,160
Speaker 3: It's like, wha, that's a TV. You put it in enough,

2011
01:29:26,240 --> 01:29:27,960
Speaker 3: you hide it somewhere in the house and then they

2012
01:29:28,040 --> 01:29:29,600
Speaker 3: have to go get it and then they see it.

2013
01:29:29,840 --> 01:29:32,400
Speaker 1: Oh, so don't wrap it. You don't have to wrap it, right, Yeah.

2014
01:29:32,439 --> 01:29:34,040
Speaker 1: I think we'll probably wrap it, okay.

2015
01:29:34,160 --> 01:29:37,560
Speaker 8: I think that Beth is very anti Christmas gifts that

2016
01:29:37,600 --> 01:29:41,320
Speaker 8: aren't wrapped, Like even like stocking stuffers need to be right.

2017
01:29:41,200 --> 01:29:42,519
Speaker 3: Well, I guess you can still wrap it, but you

2018
01:29:42,640 --> 01:29:44,320
Speaker 3: put it in the other room, so it's not evident

2019
01:29:44,560 --> 01:29:46,760
Speaker 3: it's not sitting out there that Oh this is a TV.

2020
01:29:47,800 --> 01:29:48,960
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, I don't know. It could be a

2021
01:29:49,000 --> 01:29:50,840
Speaker 1: lot of things. Okay, it does look like a TV,

2022
01:29:50,960 --> 01:29:52,960
Speaker 1: though I would agree it's kind of hard to say.

2023
01:29:53,040 --> 01:29:54,320
Speaker 1: You ever, I don't think that's a TV.

2024
01:29:54,760 --> 01:29:58,040
Speaker 2: You ever listen to Sebastian Menaschoolo in a medium.

2025
01:29:58,479 --> 01:30:01,040
Speaker 3: Yes, he's got a funny bit where his father because

2026
01:30:01,080 --> 01:30:02,280
Speaker 3: everything his father looks at.

2027
01:30:02,439 --> 01:30:04,519
Speaker 2: How much you pay for that? And he goes, yes,

2028
01:30:05,280 --> 01:30:07,519
Speaker 2: you pick what I could have made that. You can

2029
01:30:07,640 --> 01:30:08,960
Speaker 2: make a seventy five inch TV.

2030
01:30:09,040 --> 01:30:10,120
Speaker 1: You could have made it for a buck.

2031
01:30:10,600 --> 01:30:12,200
Speaker 2: You could make a seventy five inch TV.

2032
01:30:13,200 --> 01:30:15,000
Speaker 1: I love some of those. Those bits are great.

2033
01:30:15,160 --> 01:30:17,840
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, all right, eight five five pass five hundred.

2034
01:30:18,160 --> 01:30:20,640
Speaker 3: Evan has gone because you know, he needs to go

2035
01:30:21,479 --> 01:30:23,720
Speaker 3: talk to the players and deuces out there because he

2036
01:30:23,840 --> 01:30:24,840
Speaker 3: needs to talk to the players.

2037
01:30:24,920 --> 01:30:27,320
Speaker 2: But they'll be back, right, Oh No, Evan won't be.

2038
01:30:27,439 --> 01:30:30,839
Speaker 8: Yeah, Mike will be and Evan. I'm not sure Evan's

2039
01:30:30,840 --> 01:30:33,400
Speaker 8: coming back tomorrow. You little mean to him before the break?

2040
01:30:33,520 --> 01:30:35,320
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, you think I heard him in two. I

2041
01:30:35,360 --> 01:30:37,479
Speaker 3: think I heard him with the analytics don't shine.

2042
01:30:38,200 --> 01:30:42,439
Speaker 8: I think you hurt his feelings with the analytics. Don't shine.

2043
01:30:42,520 --> 01:30:44,280
Speaker 2: He's gonna analytics ass right now.

2044
01:30:45,280 --> 01:30:45,519
Speaker 1: Yeah.

2045
01:30:45,640 --> 01:30:50,800
Speaker 8: I mean, like I said, I do think there the

2046
01:30:51,040 --> 01:30:54,000
Speaker 8: the infusion of the nerds. I think overall has been

2047
01:30:54,040 --> 01:30:56,920
Speaker 8: a very good thing for the NFL because I think

2048
01:30:56,960 --> 01:30:59,640
Speaker 8: it has allowed coaches to show more creativity and not

2049
01:30:59,760 --> 01:31:03,640
Speaker 8: just do what they've always done for decades. I do

2050
01:31:03,800 --> 01:31:05,760
Speaker 8: think there needs to be a balance. I think the

2051
01:31:05,880 --> 01:31:10,719
Speaker 8: best coaches have demonstrated the ability to adapt and change

2052
01:31:10,760 --> 01:31:13,000
Speaker 8: based on what's going on. And like I said, I

2053
01:31:13,040 --> 01:31:15,880
Speaker 8: think that's one thing that I would give Mike Rabel

2054
01:31:18,040 --> 01:31:20,200
Speaker 8: and edge in is if the game unfolds in a

2055
01:31:20,240 --> 01:31:22,400
Speaker 8: certain way. I don't think we're going to be necessarily

2056
01:31:23,080 --> 01:31:25,600
Speaker 8: critiquing his decisions. I haven't agreed with every one of

2057
01:31:25,640 --> 01:31:26,640
Speaker 8: them that he's made this year.

2058
01:31:26,760 --> 01:31:26,960
Speaker 5: Yep.

2059
01:31:27,240 --> 01:31:29,120
Speaker 8: I'm not telling you that everything that they've done the

2060
01:31:29,160 --> 01:31:30,160
Speaker 8: Patriots have done well.

2061
01:31:30,200 --> 01:31:31,560
Speaker 1: I agree with that.

2062
01:31:31,960 --> 01:31:34,080
Speaker 8: The one that they went for from their own like

2063
01:31:34,240 --> 01:31:36,200
Speaker 8: fifteen yard line early in the year, I think it

2064
01:31:36,200 --> 01:31:36,800
Speaker 8: was Pittsburgh.

2065
01:31:36,960 --> 01:31:38,799
Speaker 1: They ended up getting it. I thought that was insane.

2066
01:31:40,200 --> 01:31:41,800
Speaker 1: But for the most part.

2067
01:31:41,840 --> 01:31:44,559
Speaker 8: I think his ability to adapt, based on the way

2068
01:31:44,640 --> 01:31:48,000
Speaker 8: the game is unfolding, I think has been insane. Well

2069
01:31:48,040 --> 01:31:50,120
Speaker 8: it's been different, you know what I mean. It's not

2070
01:31:50,320 --> 01:31:52,880
Speaker 8: just that it's not like, well, I'm going for it

2071
01:31:52,960 --> 01:31:54,680
Speaker 8: every time because the book tells me to go for it.

2072
01:31:54,960 --> 01:31:56,519
Speaker 8: He's shown the ability to adapt.

2073
01:31:57,000 --> 01:32:00,800
Speaker 3: He's a reasonable and common sense person. In other words,

2074
01:32:01,600 --> 01:32:04,559
Speaker 3: Jeffrey and Canada writes in first Off, great to hear

2075
01:32:04,680 --> 01:32:07,600
Speaker 3: all the fellow Canadians chiming in. Today must be a

2076
01:32:07,680 --> 01:32:08,559
Speaker 3: day off up in canon.

2077
01:32:08,600 --> 01:32:10,479
Speaker 8: We did get a lot of Canadian phone calls today.

2078
01:32:10,560 --> 01:32:11,120
Speaker 2: Y's weird.

2079
01:32:11,880 --> 01:32:14,760
Speaker 3: The Patriots do have a large following Canada, especially on

2080
01:32:14,840 --> 01:32:18,240
Speaker 3: the East coast. Bills are a Toronto team. I believe

2081
01:32:18,280 --> 01:32:21,360
Speaker 3: a third of their season tickets are owned by Canadians. However,

2082
01:32:22,080 --> 01:32:26,040
Speaker 3: I must defend Jordan who called Evan did say shootout

2083
01:32:26,720 --> 01:32:29,360
Speaker 3: was how we'd win, And maybe he misspoke, but he

2084
01:32:29,479 --> 01:32:32,400
Speaker 3: said he's not worried about the Texans or Broncos because

2085
01:32:32,400 --> 01:32:35,200
Speaker 3: they have weaker offenses, which I'm not saying he's wrong,

2086
01:32:35,520 --> 01:32:36,839
Speaker 3: but the caller was correct.

2087
01:32:37,040 --> 01:32:37,240
Speaker 5: Yeah.

2088
01:32:37,240 --> 01:32:40,080
Speaker 8: I don't remember what Evans said in terms of shootout

2089
01:32:40,280 --> 01:32:41,840
Speaker 8: or if he did or didn't say it. I think

2090
01:32:42,240 --> 01:32:44,799
Speaker 8: what Evan's point was, and he can speak for himself tomorrow.

2091
01:32:45,520 --> 01:32:47,880
Speaker 8: If you said he may not come back anymore, that's true.

2092
01:32:48,960 --> 01:32:53,040
Speaker 8: But I think his point is he doesn't see anybody

2093
01:32:53,160 --> 01:32:56,200
Speaker 8: being able to completely shut down Drake May, so they'll

2094
01:32:56,200 --> 01:32:58,680
Speaker 8: be able to score enough points. In the case of

2095
01:32:58,920 --> 01:33:01,120
Speaker 8: Denver and Houston, these are the two teams that have

2096
01:33:01,200 --> 01:33:04,840
Speaker 8: particularly rankled his feathers. I think, yeah, he doesn't feel

2097
01:33:04,880 --> 01:33:06,960
Speaker 8: that they have the offenses to keep up with the Patriots.

2098
01:33:07,000 --> 01:33:08,960
Speaker 8: That doesn't necessarily mean you have to win thirty eight

2099
01:33:09,040 --> 01:33:12,280
Speaker 8: thirty five. Yeah, Like in other words, he thinks, if

2100
01:33:12,320 --> 01:33:14,519
Speaker 8: I can get to twenty four against those teams, I'm

2101
01:33:14,560 --> 01:33:17,680
Speaker 8: gonna win because the other team can't get there. I

2102
01:33:17,760 --> 01:33:21,320
Speaker 8: think that's Evans point. It might be semantic argument, which

2103
01:33:21,360 --> 01:33:24,320
Speaker 8: is the basis of oh so many of our arguments

2104
01:33:24,360 --> 01:33:25,479
Speaker 8: here on Patriots Unfiltered.

2105
01:33:25,600 --> 01:33:29,400
Speaker 3: Yeah, all right, back to the phones. Marty is in

2106
01:33:29,520 --> 01:33:37,280
Speaker 3: the Pacific Northwest. Hey, Marty, Marty, Maty maighty. Oh, we

2107
01:33:37,360 --> 01:33:40,880
Speaker 3: didn't talk about Mike Vrabel any anything come out of

2108
01:33:40,960 --> 01:33:42,160
Speaker 3: that of interest?

2109
01:33:42,240 --> 01:33:42,559
Speaker 2: Do you think?

2110
01:33:42,640 --> 01:33:42,680
Speaker 3: No?

2111
01:33:42,800 --> 01:33:46,120
Speaker 8: We should mention though, and he opened up his press conference.

2112
01:33:46,160 --> 01:33:51,080
Speaker 8: It's a tragedy with Kevin Falk lost his second daughter, Yeah,

2113
01:33:51,200 --> 01:33:55,360
Speaker 8: thirty year old daughter. I don't really know any of

2114
01:33:55,400 --> 01:33:57,280
Speaker 8: the details other than she passed away.

2115
01:33:57,400 --> 01:33:58,360
Speaker 2: He was in the hospital.

2116
01:34:00,120 --> 01:34:02,880
Speaker 8: Mike did open that up and talked about, you know,

2117
01:34:03,160 --> 01:34:10,800
Speaker 8: just that's how that's Yeah, that's an unspeakable tragedy. But yeah,

2118
01:34:10,840 --> 01:34:13,320
Speaker 8: I mean I thought a lot of you know, a

2119
01:34:13,360 --> 01:34:16,400
Speaker 8: lot of respect obviously from Vrabel for Buffalo and for

2120
01:34:16,520 --> 01:34:19,040
Speaker 8: Josh Allen in particular. That's where it mostly centatored on,

2121
01:34:21,240 --> 01:34:23,160
Speaker 8: you know, But you know, like the whole thing about

2122
01:34:23,160 --> 01:34:27,519
Speaker 8: how to attack him, I think Mike is right. There's

2123
01:34:27,600 --> 01:34:30,280
Speaker 8: no you can't attack him one way, Like if you

2124
01:34:30,320 --> 01:34:32,120
Speaker 8: want to try to be passive in the past rush

2125
01:34:32,160 --> 01:34:33,479
Speaker 8: and keep him in the pocket, He's just going to

2126
01:34:33,560 --> 01:34:34,880
Speaker 8: stand back there in direct traffic.

2127
01:34:35,280 --> 01:34:36,439
Speaker 1: If you want to go after.

2128
01:34:36,360 --> 01:34:38,760
Speaker 8: Him, then you better get him, right So, you know,

2129
01:34:39,320 --> 01:34:42,360
Speaker 8: I think Taylor Kyle's asked him about Buffalo's propensity to

2130
01:34:42,720 --> 01:34:46,880
Speaker 8: only keep five in and protection, you know, and Mike said, yeah,

2131
01:34:46,920 --> 01:34:48,720
Speaker 8: you can send six if they're only going to block five,

2132
01:34:48,760 --> 01:34:50,880
Speaker 8: but you better have that six guy. Better get him, yep,

2133
01:34:51,240 --> 01:34:55,280
Speaker 8: otherwise you're in trouble. So I think Tom Curran asked

2134
01:34:55,320 --> 01:34:57,280
Speaker 8: him about the long touchdown run that Allen had in

2135
01:34:57,320 --> 01:34:59,920
Speaker 8: the Cincinnati game. Is that why you can't play man?

2136
01:35:00,200 --> 01:35:02,760
Speaker 8: He said, well, if you only do one thing, you know,

2137
01:35:02,840 --> 01:35:04,519
Speaker 8: that's that's not the right way to do it either.

2138
01:35:04,560 --> 01:35:06,400
Speaker 8: And we did look it up, but Mike was still here.

2139
01:35:07,200 --> 01:35:08,600
Speaker 8: That was one of their higher.

2140
01:35:09,840 --> 01:35:10,519
Speaker 1: Man games.

2141
01:35:10,840 --> 01:35:13,479
Speaker 8: That was the first time against Buffalo, and I think

2142
01:35:13,520 --> 01:35:18,799
Speaker 8: that speaks to the lack of explosiveness in the Bill's

2143
01:35:18,920 --> 01:35:21,040
Speaker 8: receiving cores. I think they feel like they can shut

2144
01:35:21,160 --> 01:35:25,439
Speaker 8: down these guys with man coverage, so I think that's

2145
01:35:25,479 --> 01:35:27,040
Speaker 8: the way he goes about it. But yeah, you know,

2146
01:35:27,200 --> 01:35:31,160
Speaker 8: Allen's ability to run in those situations obviously is a concern.

2147
01:35:31,439 --> 01:35:31,599
Speaker 5: Yep.

2148
01:35:33,040 --> 01:35:35,920
Speaker 3: If Sean is in Boston, I hope I'm pronouncing your

2149
01:35:35,960 --> 01:35:37,120
Speaker 3: name correctly as Sean.

2150
01:35:38,360 --> 01:35:41,559
Speaker 14: Yep, you're pronouncing it correct. Hey, guys, I'm a first

2151
01:35:41,600 --> 01:35:43,000
Speaker 14: time caller, a long time listener.

2152
01:35:43,240 --> 01:35:43,479
Speaker 5: Nice.

2153
01:35:43,560 --> 01:35:46,000
Speaker 14: Well, I think you guys might have talked about this earlier,

2154
01:35:46,080 --> 01:35:48,840
Speaker 14: with the idea of like whether we can compete in

2155
01:35:48,880 --> 01:35:51,760
Speaker 14: a shootout. I just didn't catch it. My question was

2156
01:35:51,920 --> 01:35:55,240
Speaker 14: about I know we've talked a lot about we're not

2157
01:35:55,360 --> 01:35:57,960
Speaker 14: sure if this offense can keep up in I guess,

2158
01:35:58,040 --> 01:36:01,360
Speaker 14: like a shootout like game. But Mike question was, is

2159
01:36:01,439 --> 01:36:06,680
Speaker 14: there not concern about seeing this Patriots team win in

2160
01:36:06,760 --> 01:36:09,919
Speaker 14: a comeback fashion? And I'm talking about like down fourteen

2161
01:36:09,920 --> 01:36:13,519
Speaker 14: to seventeen points at half, because I think it's much

2162
01:36:13,680 --> 01:36:16,719
Speaker 14: easier for a defense to let up a lot of points.

2163
01:36:16,760 --> 01:36:18,880
Speaker 14: But if the quarterback is kind of like the engine

2164
01:36:18,920 --> 01:36:21,080
Speaker 14: of the team, you could have Drake maygo off for

2165
01:36:21,200 --> 01:36:23,360
Speaker 14: four touchdowns and keep you in the game in the shootouts,

2166
01:36:23,640 --> 01:36:27,080
Speaker 14: but I think it becomes a lot more difficult when

2167
01:36:27,120 --> 01:36:30,400
Speaker 14: the offense is struggling for the defense to hold up

2168
01:36:30,439 --> 01:36:32,200
Speaker 14: its end of the bargain, because I think that the

2169
01:36:32,400 --> 01:36:35,800
Speaker 14: energy across the team might be a bit lower when

2170
01:36:35,840 --> 01:36:37,800
Speaker 14: the offense is struggling. So I'm just wondering on your guys'

2171
01:36:37,960 --> 01:36:42,240
Speaker 14: opinion on the importance of seeing a major comeback game

2172
01:36:42,280 --> 01:36:44,600
Speaker 14: before we hit the playoffs as opposed to something like

2173
01:36:44,600 --> 01:36:46,240
Speaker 14: a shootout where we know our offense can score a

2174
01:36:46,280 --> 01:36:46,759
Speaker 14: lot of points.

2175
01:36:47,840 --> 01:36:50,720
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, you know, but I hear what you're saying.

2176
01:36:50,760 --> 01:36:52,840
Speaker 3: It's so hard to manufacture those things.

2177
01:36:52,800 --> 01:36:54,960
Speaker 1: Well, and I understand this question totally.

2178
01:36:55,280 --> 01:36:58,519
Speaker 8: I just think that I don't ever want to be

2179
01:36:58,600 --> 01:37:02,280
Speaker 8: down seventeen, right, and forget about manufacturing something. I don't

2180
01:37:02,320 --> 01:37:04,600
Speaker 8: think if you come back from down seventeen in the

2181
01:37:04,640 --> 01:37:07,559
Speaker 8: regular season, I still that doesn't mean it doesn't make

2182
01:37:07,640 --> 01:37:10,960
Speaker 8: me any more confident in the playoffs if I'm down seventeen.

2183
01:37:11,800 --> 01:37:14,439
Speaker 8: Now I understand what his point is, like, the players

2184
01:37:14,479 --> 01:37:16,040
Speaker 8: will know what we've been here before.

2185
01:37:16,520 --> 01:37:17,120
Speaker 2: We can do this.

2186
01:37:17,320 --> 01:37:17,760
Speaker 1: I get it.

2187
01:37:18,400 --> 01:37:20,479
Speaker 8: It's not gonna make it's not gonna make the situation

2188
01:37:20,560 --> 01:37:21,360
Speaker 8: any less dire.

2189
01:37:21,520 --> 01:37:24,439
Speaker 3: And we're impatient, you know, because, like you said it

2190
01:37:24,560 --> 01:37:27,000
Speaker 3: right there, we've been there before. In order to have

2191
01:37:27,080 --> 01:37:31,000
Speaker 3: been there before, you kind of need time to experience

2192
01:37:31,160 --> 01:37:35,280
Speaker 3: all those different scenarios. Really, we're only talking one season

2193
01:37:35,400 --> 01:37:37,640
Speaker 3: so far. Last forget about last season. I mean right,

2194
01:37:37,680 --> 01:37:40,680
Speaker 3: I wipe that from my memory. So there's only so

2195
01:37:40,760 --> 01:37:43,800
Speaker 3: many games in which to experience different scenarios. We haven't

2196
01:37:43,840 --> 01:37:47,240
Speaker 3: seen everything yet, and it's gonna take time before this

2197
01:37:47,520 --> 01:37:49,880
Speaker 3: version of the Patriots sees all those conditions.

2198
01:37:50,000 --> 01:37:52,560
Speaker 8: So I totally get it. They haven't really had to

2199
01:37:52,640 --> 01:37:56,120
Speaker 8: come back. And you know what you're talking about is,

2200
01:37:56,240 --> 01:37:58,840
Speaker 8: you know, multi score of deficits late in the game.

2201
01:38:00,439 --> 01:38:04,000
Speaker 8: That's desperation time. I don't care how many times that.

2202
01:38:04,080 --> 01:38:04,800
Speaker 5: You you do it.

2203
01:38:04,920 --> 01:38:07,679
Speaker 2: When was the first time Brady experienced that in his career?

2204
01:38:07,840 --> 01:38:11,240
Speaker 8: Oh, like his first home was a second home winning Chargers.

2205
01:38:11,680 --> 01:38:14,680
Speaker 8: Yeah right right, yeah, down ten with like three minutes left.

2206
01:38:15,160 --> 01:38:16,160
Speaker 2: It was that San Diego.

2207
01:38:16,320 --> 01:38:18,040
Speaker 8: Yeah, they ended up winning in overtime.

2208
01:38:18,240 --> 01:38:18,799
Speaker 2: I remember.

2209
01:38:20,280 --> 01:38:23,479
Speaker 8: So yeah, I mean I get it, you know, Like,

2210
01:38:24,400 --> 01:38:27,320
Speaker 8: here's the most glaring example, coming back from twenty eight

2211
01:38:27,360 --> 01:38:31,599
Speaker 8: to three in the Super Bowl. I don't know if

2212
01:38:32,120 --> 01:38:34,320
Speaker 8: you felt better about it because, well, the Patriots have

2213
01:38:34,400 --> 01:38:35,040
Speaker 8: done this before.

2214
01:38:35,560 --> 01:38:36,000
Speaker 1: I didn't.

2215
01:38:36,120 --> 01:38:40,080
Speaker 3: I well, they never did that before. Well, the Denver

2216
01:38:40,200 --> 01:38:42,799
Speaker 3: game they were down twenty four to nothing or something.

2217
01:38:42,640 --> 01:38:45,920
Speaker 8: Like that, twenty four to nothing. Yeah, but like I don't,

2218
01:38:46,600 --> 01:38:50,960
Speaker 8: like Tom Brady had established his ability to come from behind, right,

2219
01:38:51,040 --> 01:38:53,240
Speaker 8: And I think there was a belief in Brady. And

2220
01:38:53,320 --> 01:38:56,559
Speaker 8: I think you heard you've heard anecdotes from defensive players

2221
01:38:56,600 --> 01:38:58,800
Speaker 8: in the sidelin No, no, no, we got Brady from

2222
01:38:58,800 --> 01:39:01,160
Speaker 8: the other team to the other right. Mohamed Sanu I

2223
01:39:01,160 --> 01:39:05,519
Speaker 8: think said it. Yeah, but that's not a situation that

2224
01:39:05,600 --> 01:39:07,519
Speaker 8: you want to find yourself in in the playoffs. Like

2225
01:39:08,120 --> 01:39:11,320
Speaker 8: there's nobody that would say, like it's okay because we've

2226
01:39:11,360 --> 01:39:14,960
Speaker 8: been the here before. Right now, everything's got to be perfect.

2227
01:39:15,160 --> 01:39:17,320
Speaker 2: But you know, like if your team's that good, you

2228
01:39:17,400 --> 01:39:19,720
Speaker 2: don't have that situation, So like, which do you.

2229
01:39:19,800 --> 01:39:20,519
Speaker 1: Are the other team?

2230
01:39:20,600 --> 01:39:21,080
Speaker 5: Is that bad?

2231
01:39:21,439 --> 01:39:23,000
Speaker 3: They're not good enough to get that kind of a

2232
01:39:23,080 --> 01:39:26,120
Speaker 3: lead on right, So which that's the Yeah, it's true.

2233
01:39:26,160 --> 01:39:29,000
Speaker 3: We haven't really experienced that yet, so we don't know.

2234
01:39:29,240 --> 01:39:32,080
Speaker 2: But you know, it is what it is.

2235
01:39:33,880 --> 01:39:36,800
Speaker 3: There'll be a first time for everything, hopefully because this

2236
01:39:37,000 --> 01:39:38,680
Speaker 3: is going to last for a while with this head

2237
01:39:38,720 --> 01:39:41,759
Speaker 3: coach in this quarterback Sean's and Vancouver.

2238
01:39:42,479 --> 01:39:43,639
Speaker 2: What's up Sean, Sean?

2239
01:39:44,760 --> 01:39:48,120
Speaker 13: I really hope that song is going to play this week,

2240
01:39:48,520 --> 01:39:51,439
Speaker 13: not amongst the PU crew but general NFL chatter. He's

2241
01:39:51,479 --> 01:39:54,320
Speaker 13: been a real unsugg hero and it's going to help

2242
01:39:54,680 --> 01:39:57,720
Speaker 13: on the defensive line, but also in short yardage and

2243
01:39:57,840 --> 01:40:01,240
Speaker 13: running the ball because his blocking is than anything close

2244
01:40:01,280 --> 01:40:04,559
Speaker 13: to real fullback. So that's someone now the Patriots Kapillion

2245
01:40:05,080 --> 01:40:06,360
Speaker 13: used all this lady on.

2246
01:40:06,400 --> 01:40:10,640
Speaker 8: That Okay, Yeah, I think I think his his his

2247
01:40:10,800 --> 01:40:13,880
Speaker 8: return would be a welcome one to handle James Cook.

2248
01:40:13,920 --> 01:40:16,320
Speaker 8: I'm less concerned about the handful of snaps that he

2249
01:40:16,400 --> 01:40:18,160
Speaker 8: get as a full back. I don't dismiss it. I

2250
01:40:18,240 --> 01:40:19,800
Speaker 8: think you know he did it, does it? You know

2251
01:40:19,840 --> 01:40:21,640
Speaker 8: he does a fairly good job in that regard. But

2252
01:40:22,320 --> 01:40:24,639
Speaker 8: the run defense has been sagging, and I think part

2253
01:40:24,680 --> 01:40:27,720
Speaker 8: of it is everybody talks about Milton Williams, but I

2254
01:40:27,840 --> 01:40:29,800
Speaker 8: think you know Tong has been part of that too.

2255
01:40:30,040 --> 01:40:32,360
Speaker 8: So yeah, you know, to have those guys back as

2256
01:40:32,400 --> 01:40:35,559
Speaker 8: many of those guys back, Yeah, yep, the more the merrier.

2257
01:40:36,160 --> 01:40:40,120
Speaker 3: Let's see Bruno Wright saying subject line, how to enhance

2258
01:40:40,240 --> 01:40:43,200
Speaker 3: analytics with how my defense is doing.

2259
01:40:43,520 --> 01:40:44,280
Speaker 2: It's pretty easy.

2260
01:40:44,720 --> 01:40:48,080
Speaker 3: Besides scoreclocking down a distance, you factor an EPA and

2261
01:40:48,160 --> 01:40:51,120
Speaker 3: success rate for both teams into the equation. That should

2262
01:40:51,160 --> 01:40:53,840
Speaker 3: be pretty straightforward. You only need to figure out the

2263
01:40:54,240 --> 01:40:58,000
Speaker 3: coefficients for each metric. A more advanced version could also

2264
01:40:58,120 --> 01:41:01,519
Speaker 3: take into account season advanced for the teams as well

2265
01:41:01,560 --> 01:41:04,599
Speaker 3: as players individually, so you can factor in key injuries

2266
01:41:04,600 --> 01:41:04,960
Speaker 3: as well.

2267
01:41:05,240 --> 01:41:07,439
Speaker 2: But at this point you might be needing.

2268
01:41:07,280 --> 01:41:10,920
Speaker 3: The Guys Coding Chat GPT to join the NFL analytics team.

2269
01:41:11,000 --> 01:41:13,760
Speaker 3: But in any case, it's only just odds, and the

2270
01:41:13,840 --> 01:41:16,080
Speaker 3: fun part of sports is that on any given Sunday

2271
01:41:16,120 --> 01:41:16,800
Speaker 3: you can beat them.

2272
01:41:17,080 --> 01:41:20,760
Speaker 8: I want to do less odds, like I want to

2273
01:41:20,960 --> 01:41:22,639
Speaker 8: like I think like I said, I think that that's

2274
01:41:22,680 --> 01:41:25,600
Speaker 8: been a welcome change, that teams are more willing to

2275
01:41:25,680 --> 01:41:27,639
Speaker 8: take some of that into consideration. But I don't want

2276
01:41:27,680 --> 01:41:30,479
Speaker 8: to do it based on strictly based on numbers. I

2277
01:41:30,520 --> 01:41:34,880
Speaker 8: don't want to add more numbers, especially EPA like expected

2278
01:41:35,080 --> 01:41:39,400
Speaker 8: stuff that's not real. I don't want to necessarily add

2279
01:41:39,600 --> 01:41:44,720
Speaker 8: more numbers into my thought process. Yep, you understand what

2280
01:41:44,760 --> 01:41:47,599
Speaker 8: I'm saying. Yeah, but I do think like I will.

2281
01:41:48,520 --> 01:41:50,560
Speaker 8: I know people probably don't believe me, but I do

2282
01:41:50,960 --> 01:41:52,760
Speaker 8: like the fact that teams go for it on fullth

2283
01:41:52,800 --> 01:41:55,760
Speaker 8: down far more, far more frequently, and I think that's

2284
01:41:55,800 --> 01:41:57,080
Speaker 8: been a good development for the league.

2285
01:41:57,520 --> 01:42:00,639
Speaker 3: Matt from Saskatchewan says, I meant to send this into

2286
01:42:00,720 --> 01:42:03,439
Speaker 3: Catch twenty two, and as I assume Barth probably knows

2287
01:42:03,560 --> 01:42:05,840
Speaker 3: this information off the top of his head, I was

2288
01:42:05,920 --> 01:42:08,679
Speaker 3: wondering how everyone feels about Drake May in the clutch,

2289
01:42:09,320 --> 01:42:12,479
Speaker 3: as we haven't really seen it outside the Buffalo game

2290
01:42:12,560 --> 01:42:15,360
Speaker 3: in Week four. I vaguely remember during the draft cycle

2291
01:42:15,439 --> 01:42:17,640
Speaker 3: that he did not have a great record and come

2292
01:42:17,720 --> 01:42:20,960
Speaker 3: from behind games in college, and I was wondering if

2293
01:42:21,000 --> 01:42:22,920
Speaker 3: you have any concerns about his ability to do so

2294
01:42:23,080 --> 01:42:25,920
Speaker 3: as we approach the playoffs will inevitably have to come

2295
01:42:26,000 --> 01:42:29,680
Speaker 3: from behind to win against better teams. So in the

2296
01:42:29,800 --> 01:42:32,479
Speaker 3: clutch a little bit different than come from behind, you know,

2297
01:42:32,920 --> 01:42:34,880
Speaker 3: seventeen points, just got.

2298
01:42:34,880 --> 01:42:35,200
Speaker 5: To have it.

2299
01:42:35,560 --> 01:42:37,519
Speaker 8: Yeah, and he hasn't really had any of those. Yeah,

2300
01:42:37,600 --> 01:42:40,559
Speaker 8: even the one that we're talking about was a tie game. Yep,

2301
01:42:40,720 --> 01:42:44,120
Speaker 8: so he didn't have to do it right. No, I

2302
01:42:44,160 --> 01:42:47,400
Speaker 8: don't have concerns only because I would be concerned if

2303
01:42:47,439 --> 01:42:51,280
Speaker 8: I had seen him fail in those situations, you know,

2304
01:42:51,400 --> 01:42:54,719
Speaker 8: like last year, I'm with you, I completely throw away

2305
01:42:54,800 --> 01:42:57,720
Speaker 8: last year. Yeah, this year, with this team and this

2306
01:42:58,200 --> 01:43:01,479
Speaker 8: personnel around him, they haven't. They haven't failed in those situations.

2307
01:43:01,520 --> 01:43:03,880
Speaker 8: But and you know the other thing about that is,

2308
01:43:04,040 --> 01:43:06,439
Speaker 8: I guess that's not really true. They were down, they

2309
01:43:06,439 --> 01:43:09,200
Speaker 8: were down a touchdown against Pittsburgh and he fumbled, So I, yes,

2310
01:43:09,320 --> 01:43:12,160
Speaker 8: that's but that's one and it's.

2311
01:43:12,080 --> 01:43:14,439
Speaker 3: Not one hundred percent fair to just say, how is

2312
01:43:14,680 --> 01:43:16,519
Speaker 3: Drake May in the clutch? How is your team in

2313
01:43:16,560 --> 01:43:19,720
Speaker 3: the clutch? Because even during the Brady years, when you know,

2314
01:43:19,840 --> 01:43:22,719
Speaker 3: you had those times where you had to convert third

2315
01:43:22,800 --> 01:43:25,439
Speaker 3: down after third down and critical games, you know, in

2316
01:43:25,520 --> 01:43:29,000
Speaker 3: the fourth quarter, it was great plays by Gronk, great

2317
01:43:29,040 --> 01:43:32,439
Speaker 3: plays by Edelman, a stupid play by the other team,

2318
01:43:32,600 --> 01:43:33,519
Speaker 3: you know, all those things.

2319
01:43:33,800 --> 01:43:36,599
Speaker 2: You know, so you got to look at your team too.

2320
01:43:36,760 --> 01:43:39,759
Speaker 3: How is the pet how other guys been in the clutch?

2321
01:43:40,240 --> 01:43:44,519
Speaker 3: Do they have mental you know, brain farts and you know,

2322
01:43:45,040 --> 01:43:46,280
Speaker 3: have off size.

2323
01:43:46,560 --> 01:43:46,720
Speaker 8: You know.

2324
01:43:46,920 --> 01:43:49,400
Speaker 1: So it's there's so much that it's about the quarterback though.

2325
01:43:49,439 --> 01:43:51,960
Speaker 1: I mean, let's face it, well it is, you know

2326
01:43:52,120 --> 01:43:53,760
Speaker 1: he he can't screw up either.

2327
01:43:53,880 --> 01:43:57,640
Speaker 3: But is it a team like that has a propensity

2328
01:43:57,720 --> 01:44:01,360
Speaker 3: to do a stupid play like they did the last

2329
01:44:01,400 --> 01:44:05,040
Speaker 3: four years? You know, I don't think so. I think

2330
01:44:05,120 --> 01:44:10,360
Speaker 3: fundamentally they're more sound. Santo is by the way, he's

2331
01:44:10,360 --> 01:44:12,599
Speaker 3: a PhD. So you got to listen to what he's saying.

2332
01:44:12,760 --> 01:44:15,479
Speaker 3: Good for you, I says. In terms of Evan being

2333
01:44:15,520 --> 01:44:18,760
Speaker 3: an advanced scout, he says, I agree, Evan could fit

2334
01:44:18,880 --> 01:44:21,240
Speaker 3: in as an advanced scout. I've been so impressed with

2335
01:44:21,280 --> 01:44:24,839
Speaker 3: his insights and more so with his rationale of his opinions.

2336
01:44:24,960 --> 01:44:28,120
Speaker 3: Clearly he does his homework. I even enjoyed his analysis

2337
01:44:28,160 --> 01:44:30,680
Speaker 3: of the upcoming drafts looking at all the talent coming out,

2338
01:44:30,960 --> 01:44:34,120
Speaker 3: can't believe the scouts the Patriots have are that much superior.

2339
01:44:35,479 --> 01:44:36,320
Speaker 2: Well, there you go.

2340
01:44:37,280 --> 01:44:39,120
Speaker 1: I and this is not a joke.

2341
01:44:39,520 --> 01:44:42,120
Speaker 8: I've said this to him since he started working with us,

2342
01:44:42,439 --> 01:44:44,600
Speaker 8: and you know, we sort of got to know what

2343
01:44:44,720 --> 01:44:47,240
Speaker 8: he's all about. And I've asked them many times if

2344
01:44:47,240 --> 01:44:49,680
Speaker 8: he's ever given any any thought to try and to

2345
01:44:49,760 --> 01:44:52,000
Speaker 8: get into the business, and he says, no, it's a

2346
01:44:52,080 --> 01:44:53,559
Speaker 8: tough life, not really tough life.

2347
01:44:53,600 --> 01:44:54,280
Speaker 1: It's a tough life.

2348
01:44:54,840 --> 01:44:56,720
Speaker 3: On a side note, what is the logic for the

2349
01:44:56,840 --> 01:44:59,599
Speaker 3: title of Catch twenty two? Is it related to the book?

2350
01:44:59,640 --> 01:45:01,360
Speaker 3: If so, well, it is kind of a nod to

2351
01:45:01,439 --> 01:45:06,360
Speaker 3: the book and you know the twenty All twenty two film. Yea,

2352
01:45:06,560 --> 01:45:08,479
Speaker 3: the All twenty two film is so much.

2353
01:45:08,320 --> 01:45:11,120
Speaker 8: About what he and Barth do they hatch, what all

2354
01:45:11,240 --> 01:45:13,720
Speaker 8: twenty two are doing, as well as like it's a

2355
01:45:13,760 --> 01:45:16,040
Speaker 8: pun on the play on words with twenty two.

2356
01:45:16,200 --> 01:45:18,360
Speaker 3: So you know, they use the All twenty two film

2357
01:45:18,439 --> 01:45:20,600
Speaker 3: as a part of their research. And so it's a

2358
01:45:21,200 --> 01:45:23,920
Speaker 3: is that you Yeah, is that Catch twenty two?

2359
01:45:24,040 --> 01:45:24,200
Speaker 1: Yeah?

2360
01:45:24,320 --> 01:45:25,280
Speaker 2: I came up with that, of course.

2361
01:45:25,479 --> 01:45:27,560
Speaker 8: I mean, in all seriousness, Yeah, it's one of the

2362
01:45:27,640 --> 01:45:29,920
Speaker 8: best titles that I've heard for anything like that.

2363
01:45:30,160 --> 01:45:32,760
Speaker 3: Yeah, But obviously it's an ode. It's an o to

2364
01:45:33,439 --> 01:45:37,200
Speaker 3: the movie and the book. It's perfect yeap Joseph Heller's book.

2365
01:45:37,200 --> 01:45:41,120
Speaker 3: I believe Catch twenty two predictions. If I planned against

2366
01:45:41,240 --> 01:45:44,760
Speaker 3: the Patriots' Sunday, I would try to win by keeping

2367
01:45:44,840 --> 01:45:47,640
Speaker 3: May on the sideline, so the running game would need

2368
01:45:47,680 --> 01:45:50,519
Speaker 3: to be important. Still, I would not be surprised that

2369
01:45:50,600 --> 01:45:52,840
Speaker 3: the Patriots would be ready for that game plan. So

2370
01:45:53,240 --> 01:45:55,840
Speaker 3: the Patriots win because we have a better coaching staff

2371
01:45:56,080 --> 01:45:57,800
Speaker 3: and dare I say, the better quarterback.

2372
01:46:00,680 --> 01:46:01,439
Speaker 2: I think it's a toss.

2373
01:46:01,600 --> 01:46:03,320
Speaker 8: I think both of those things remained to be seen.

2374
01:46:03,840 --> 01:46:08,120
Speaker 3: Yeah, I think it's a toss up. So it's gonna

2375
01:46:08,160 --> 01:46:09,519
Speaker 3: come down to just a few plays.

2376
01:46:10,640 --> 01:46:11,200
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean.

2377
01:46:12,880 --> 01:46:18,320
Speaker 8: The first game people, I think it was so long ago.

2378
01:46:18,360 --> 01:46:20,800
Speaker 8: I don't think people remember just how badly Buffalo played

2379
01:46:20,840 --> 01:46:23,759
Speaker 8: in that game. Like they had three turnovers and eleven

2380
01:46:23,800 --> 01:46:27,679
Speaker 8: penalties yep, and still had the ball with a chance

2381
01:46:27,760 --> 01:46:32,839
Speaker 8: to go ahead, and had a very close pass breakup

2382
01:46:33,439 --> 01:46:38,000
Speaker 8: that could have gone either way. That's interference or it's

2383
01:46:38,040 --> 01:46:40,439
Speaker 8: a pass breakup, right, and the Bills could have taken

2384
01:46:40,479 --> 01:46:44,920
Speaker 8: the lead, and they couldn't have played much worse. So

2385
01:46:45,280 --> 01:46:47,080
Speaker 8: I just would caution on the whole you have the

2386
01:46:47,160 --> 01:46:48,479
Speaker 8: edge here, you have the edge here, you have the

2387
01:46:48,600 --> 01:46:48,920
Speaker 8: edge here.

2388
01:46:49,120 --> 01:46:50,760
Speaker 1: Stuff like this is.

2389
01:46:52,280 --> 01:46:54,240
Speaker 8: I think Buffalo is pretty good. They're not having a

2390
01:46:54,320 --> 01:46:56,840
Speaker 8: great year, They're not healthy. I think you're catching them

2391
01:46:56,840 --> 01:46:59,839
Speaker 8: at a great spot. I think they've sort of invested

2392
01:46:59,880 --> 01:47:01,600
Speaker 8: a lot of energy the last couple of weeks. The

2393
01:47:01,640 --> 01:47:04,280
Speaker 8: Patriots have a very good chance to win this game.

2394
01:47:04,280 --> 01:47:06,920
Speaker 8: That's why I'm picking them. I think all the intangibles

2395
01:47:06,920 --> 01:47:07,880
Speaker 8: are in the Patriots side.

2396
01:47:07,880 --> 01:47:11,160
Speaker 3: Do you think like picking up Brandon Cooks and who's

2397
01:47:11,160 --> 01:47:14,240
Speaker 3: the other guy they picked up off the street?

2398
01:47:14,320 --> 01:47:17,760
Speaker 2: I forget another veteran. Is it any sign that they

2399
01:47:17,920 --> 01:47:19,960
Speaker 2: believe we got to do this now?

2400
01:47:20,240 --> 01:47:22,640
Speaker 8: They don't have anybody, That's what It's a sign, and

2401
01:47:23,000 --> 01:47:26,240
Speaker 8: all their guys are hurt. Well, Curtis Samuel's on I are.

2402
01:47:26,400 --> 01:47:28,120
Speaker 8: Josh Palmer has been out the last couple of weeks.

2403
01:47:28,160 --> 01:47:30,720
Speaker 8: Dalton Kinkaid missed a month. Like they needed guys to

2404
01:47:30,800 --> 01:47:31,680
Speaker 8: come in and catch the ball.

2405
01:47:32,160 --> 01:47:36,639
Speaker 2: He was available, Yeah, Dylan and Nashville.

2406
01:47:36,680 --> 01:47:38,800
Speaker 3: I just want to point out that belichick six Super

2407
01:47:38,840 --> 01:47:41,759
Speaker 3: bowls in New England came with two offensive coordinators, Charlie

2408
01:47:41,800 --> 01:47:48,519
Speaker 3: Weiss and Josh Mcdaniels's McDaniels our most important offseason acquisition. Well,

2409
01:47:48,520 --> 01:47:53,600
Speaker 3: I would say it's vyable, but he's number two maybe acquisitions.

2410
01:47:53,840 --> 01:47:57,519
Speaker 8: I mean, I don't know. They They signed a lot

2411
01:47:57,560 --> 01:47:59,720
Speaker 8: of players that have been very, very important to.

2412
01:47:59,760 --> 01:48:02,839
Speaker 2: The but any more important than Daniels.

2413
01:48:03,000 --> 01:48:04,759
Speaker 8: Yeah, players are more important than coaches.

2414
01:48:04,880 --> 01:48:07,519
Speaker 2: Okay, all right, I.

2415
01:48:07,560 --> 01:48:10,800
Speaker 8: Mean, I'm not dismissing the coaching in this, but I'm

2416
01:48:10,800 --> 01:48:11,519
Speaker 8: not doing this again.

2417
01:48:11,960 --> 01:48:12,120
Speaker 3: I was.

2418
01:48:12,520 --> 01:48:15,720
Speaker 8: I was on the wrong side of history before. I

2419
01:48:15,760 --> 01:48:19,479
Speaker 8: ain't doing it again. I'm serious. I was on the

2420
01:48:19,520 --> 01:48:23,760
Speaker 8: bill over Brady until like I was wrong. Yeah, like

2421
01:48:24,040 --> 01:48:24,920
Speaker 8: you know, fool me once.

2422
01:48:27,080 --> 01:48:30,519
Speaker 3: Dylan in South Florida says, the anti Patriot disdain online

2423
01:48:30,640 --> 01:48:35,280
Speaker 3: is back. Uh to start off, It's fantastic to be

2424
01:48:35,479 --> 01:48:39,680
Speaker 3: back again. Now online, the vitriol against the Patriots and

2425
01:48:39,760 --> 01:48:41,240
Speaker 3: fans is back in full strength.

2426
01:48:41,320 --> 01:48:41,759
Speaker 2: On Twitter.

2427
01:48:42,080 --> 01:48:45,760
Speaker 3: You got idiotic Denver fanboys yapping off and now, for

2428
01:48:45,880 --> 01:48:47,400
Speaker 3: some reason, Baltimore fans.

2429
01:48:47,880 --> 01:48:48,679
Speaker 2: We're so back.

2430
01:48:49,200 --> 01:48:52,520
Speaker 3: Not one tweet by opposing fans goes by without downplaying

2431
01:48:52,840 --> 01:48:53,559
Speaker 3: May and the team.

2432
01:48:53,880 --> 01:48:57,040
Speaker 2: It's pathetic. Really, I'm basking it. We are back.

2433
01:48:57,200 --> 01:49:01,000
Speaker 3: Happy holidays to all go Pats AC title may be

2434
01:49:01,920 --> 01:49:02,800
Speaker 3: February sixth.

2435
01:49:04,960 --> 01:49:13,240
Speaker 2: So there you go. Let's see BB in New Hampshire, right, Sin,

2436
01:49:14,240 --> 01:49:16,599
Speaker 2: I'm so hungry. I know you didn't.

2437
01:49:16,680 --> 01:49:20,320
Speaker 8: You got stiff today, but did It's not like our

2438
01:49:20,400 --> 01:49:20,960
Speaker 8: boys there.

2439
01:49:21,720 --> 01:49:23,560
Speaker 2: I see Alex leaving now, but I don't know.

2440
01:49:23,800 --> 01:49:26,760
Speaker 1: Maybe he's calling they forgot about me.

2441
01:49:27,320 --> 01:49:29,000
Speaker 3: What kind of offense do you think we'll see this

2442
01:49:29,080 --> 01:49:31,720
Speaker 3: week against Buffalo? Do you predict we see lots from

2443
01:49:32,400 --> 01:49:35,240
Speaker 3: Hunter Henry more of a digs and booty game. I

2444
01:49:35,360 --> 01:49:38,280
Speaker 3: personally don't know what to expect, but I'm interested to

2445
01:49:38,320 --> 01:49:40,879
Speaker 3: see how this approach is different from our first matchup

2446
01:49:41,120 --> 01:49:45,840
Speaker 3: with Buffalo. Who has other than May who has to

2447
01:49:46,040 --> 01:49:47,920
Speaker 3: stand out for the Patris to win this game?

2448
01:49:48,560 --> 01:49:51,719
Speaker 8: I would say the front seven. They can't allow James

2449
01:49:51,800 --> 01:49:58,599
Speaker 8: Cook to pile up the yards. Defensive, yeah, yeah, defense, yeah, oh,

2450
01:49:58,960 --> 01:49:59,960
Speaker 8: just offense we're talking about?

2451
01:50:00,040 --> 01:50:02,280
Speaker 2: Yeah, he was talking about I'm talking about offense. Who

2452
01:50:02,360 --> 01:50:03,600
Speaker 2: has to you know?

2453
01:50:03,880 --> 01:50:06,120
Speaker 3: Is it a tight end game? Is it a running game?

2454
01:50:06,439 --> 01:50:09,080
Speaker 3: Is it you know, downfield opening it up for the

2455
01:50:09,240 --> 01:50:09,800
Speaker 3: running game.

2456
01:50:09,840 --> 01:50:12,200
Speaker 8: I think it's a good thing. You know, it's a

2457
01:50:12,240 --> 01:50:15,960
Speaker 8: positive sign that Josh McDaniels has set this up, and

2458
01:50:17,120 --> 01:50:18,800
Speaker 8: you just never know from week to week who that

2459
01:50:18,880 --> 01:50:21,639
Speaker 8: guy is going to be. You know, the first Buffalo game,

2460
01:50:21,680 --> 01:50:24,479
Speaker 8: it was Digs. But how many times have we seen

2461
01:50:24,520 --> 01:50:27,759
Speaker 8: to be a different guy? Five it was MATC Collins,

2462
01:50:27,800 --> 01:50:30,040
Speaker 8: a week, it was Kay Shambouti a week, it was

2463
01:50:30,200 --> 01:50:32,960
Speaker 8: Hunter Henry a week. You know, like it could be

2464
01:50:33,040 --> 01:50:36,040
Speaker 8: anybody to Mario Douglas. I just don't know, Like I

2465
01:50:36,080 --> 01:50:39,599
Speaker 8: wouldn't know who to pick to predict that it's going

2466
01:50:39,640 --> 01:50:42,960
Speaker 8: to be this guy this week, right, but somebody, somebody

2467
01:50:43,000 --> 01:50:45,000
Speaker 8: would have to have, you know, a good game and

2468
01:50:45,439 --> 01:50:46,400
Speaker 8: you know someone.

2469
01:50:46,400 --> 01:50:47,719
Speaker 1: I'd have to be productive.

2470
01:50:47,800 --> 01:50:50,760
Speaker 3: I'd love to see as we get closer to the playoffs,

2471
01:50:51,240 --> 01:50:55,760
Speaker 3: week to week, Diggs having high production games, you know,

2472
01:50:56,000 --> 01:50:58,200
Speaker 3: establishing that guy similar.

2473
01:50:57,880 --> 01:50:59,879
Speaker 2: To like how other teams number one.

2474
01:51:01,640 --> 01:51:04,519
Speaker 3: Does it every week, Like where Diggs is getting at

2475
01:51:04,640 --> 01:51:07,559
Speaker 3: least you know, seventy eighty yards minimum every game.

2476
01:51:07,640 --> 01:51:09,879
Speaker 8: Yeah, I just don't think that he's that guy anymore

2477
01:51:10,280 --> 01:51:13,040
Speaker 8: that can do. I mean, and it's not really anything

2478
01:51:13,080 --> 01:51:14,920
Speaker 8: to do with his ACL. Like he wasn't that guy

2479
01:51:14,960 --> 01:51:17,000
Speaker 8: in Houston last year before the ACL he was on

2480
01:51:17,120 --> 01:51:19,240
Speaker 8: pace for like a thousand yard season, Like that's what

2481
01:51:19,320 --> 01:51:22,519
Speaker 8: he's gonna do. He's he's their number one but I

2482
01:51:22,560 --> 01:51:25,000
Speaker 8: don't think he's like a fifteen hundred yard guy, fourteen

2483
01:51:25,080 --> 01:51:26,759
Speaker 8: hundred yard guy like he was in the past.

2484
01:51:26,960 --> 01:51:27,160
Speaker 14: Yeah.

2485
01:51:27,280 --> 01:51:29,560
Speaker 8: The thing that I like about it, Fred is that

2486
01:51:29,920 --> 01:51:32,559
Speaker 8: maybe he isn't doing the six or seven for one

2487
01:51:32,600 --> 01:51:36,120
Speaker 8: hundred every week, but it seems pretty much every week

2488
01:51:37,360 --> 01:51:40,360
Speaker 8: when he has a low production game, it's one or

2489
01:51:40,400 --> 01:51:41,959
Speaker 8: two that come on third.

2490
01:51:41,760 --> 01:51:42,360
Speaker 1: And fourth down.

2491
01:51:42,520 --> 01:51:43,920
Speaker 2: Yes, he's the third down guy.

2492
01:51:43,880 --> 01:51:44,559
Speaker 1: The fourth down.

2493
01:51:45,280 --> 01:51:47,320
Speaker 8: Really, he's been the guy almost every time.

2494
01:51:47,520 --> 01:51:49,559
Speaker 2: Yeah, No, he's he's definitely.

2495
01:51:49,680 --> 01:51:51,360
Speaker 8: He might not have a big week, he might get

2496
01:51:51,400 --> 01:51:53,960
Speaker 8: three for thirty two yards, but two of those are

2497
01:51:54,040 --> 01:51:56,960
Speaker 8: on fourth down that are instrumental when you're winning the game.

2498
01:51:58,360 --> 01:52:00,560
Speaker 2: Let's see who's thish.

2499
01:52:00,920 --> 01:52:04,560
Speaker 3: No, he doesn't say, but his headline subject line is

2500
01:52:04,640 --> 01:52:07,799
Speaker 3: don't fear the Bills, Ravens and Texans and reasons why.

2501
01:52:09,560 --> 01:52:10,160
Speaker 2: I hear all this?

2502
01:52:10,320 --> 01:52:13,080
Speaker 8: You know the previous email that said we're back. Yeah,

2503
01:52:13,760 --> 01:52:15,760
Speaker 8: that to me is the proof that we're back. We

2504
01:52:15,920 --> 01:52:18,160
Speaker 8: have now completely dismissed everybody else.

2505
01:52:18,479 --> 01:52:21,360
Speaker 3: I hear all the fear back, So this person says,

2506
01:52:21,560 --> 01:52:24,400
Speaker 3: I hear all the fear about facing the Texans in

2507
01:52:24,479 --> 01:52:27,799
Speaker 3: the playoffs. Let's not forget how absolutely dialed in. Digs

2508
01:52:27,960 --> 01:52:30,720
Speaker 3: was the first time against the Bills. I'm confident he

2509
01:52:30,760 --> 01:52:33,120
Speaker 3: will be at least as dialed in against the Texans,

2510
01:52:33,360 --> 01:52:36,360
Speaker 3: who decided to not invest in him after a season

2511
01:52:36,479 --> 01:52:39,760
Speaker 3: ending injury for that team. Motivation. Hell yeah, I'm not

2512
01:52:39,840 --> 01:52:42,200
Speaker 3: fearing the Bills and Ravens games. I think our teams

2513
01:52:42,240 --> 01:52:45,080
Speaker 3: are players, and our coaches will show up. They might

2514
01:52:45,160 --> 01:52:48,400
Speaker 3: not get a dub, but they will show up, compete,

2515
01:52:48,800 --> 01:52:51,080
Speaker 3: and they will learn about themselves and work on any

2516
01:52:51,200 --> 01:52:52,679
Speaker 3: remaining holes in their operation.

2517
01:52:53,200 --> 01:52:55,320
Speaker 8: Yeah, the Ravens aren't in this conversation. They're not a

2518
01:52:55,360 --> 01:52:56,080
Speaker 8: good team this year.

2519
01:52:56,280 --> 01:52:57,160
Speaker 1: I mean it is what it is.

2520
01:52:57,360 --> 01:53:01,920
Speaker 8: They're six and seven, right, Yeah, No the other ones, Yeah,

2521
01:53:02,439 --> 01:53:05,000
Speaker 8: I don't dismiss No, I don't dismiss nine and fourteen.

2522
01:53:05,080 --> 01:53:07,280
Speaker 2: They go in the wrong direction, the Ravens. Right.

2523
01:53:07,800 --> 01:53:13,720
Speaker 3: Jared in La has a problem with show attendance. My

2524
01:53:13,840 --> 01:53:15,920
Speaker 3: only major great with the show is that the cast

2525
01:53:16,080 --> 01:53:18,880
Speaker 3: is so infrequent. Even Paul's starting to not appear on

2526
01:53:19,000 --> 01:53:21,560
Speaker 3: show days. The day before Thanksgiving was poor to me.

2527
01:53:22,720 --> 01:53:24,759
Speaker 8: So I'll just let you know. The day before Christmas

2528
01:53:24,800 --> 01:53:25,599
Speaker 8: Eve will be another one.

2529
01:53:25,640 --> 01:53:29,720
Speaker 2: You're gonna do. I have my show holiday.

2530
01:53:29,400 --> 01:53:32,320
Speaker 8: Filling holiday filling work. You know, I have two hundred

2531
01:53:32,320 --> 01:53:34,439
Speaker 8: and eighty one thousand miles on my car. I need

2532
01:53:34,640 --> 01:53:37,400
Speaker 8: something we should do. Oh that starts at two, right, Yeah,

2533
01:53:37,439 --> 01:53:37,760
Speaker 8: it's two.

2534
01:53:37,760 --> 01:53:41,599
Speaker 2: Okay. I was going to say we could do a crossover. Yeah.

2535
01:53:42,439 --> 01:53:45,479
Speaker 3: But the most bothersome miss almost every week is Evan

2536
01:53:45,600 --> 01:53:48,840
Speaker 3: not being at picks. I'm sorry, you cannot convince me

2537
01:53:49,240 --> 01:53:51,439
Speaker 3: that you need to be gone for that to catch

2538
01:53:51,560 --> 01:53:54,439
Speaker 3: quotes from Vrabel and even I have acted that even

2539
01:53:54,520 --> 01:53:57,400
Speaker 3: I have access to. Even Alex makes the picks, and

2540
01:53:57,479 --> 01:54:01,280
Speaker 3: it's annoying that she's never there to accept them.

2541
01:54:01,920 --> 01:54:04,200
Speaker 2: I don't know what that means. I truly think you

2542
01:54:04,320 --> 01:54:04,760
Speaker 2: all need.

2543
01:54:04,720 --> 01:54:07,360
Speaker 3: To do better and should treat this more seriously rather

2544
01:54:07,479 --> 01:54:10,639
Speaker 3: than taken for granted approach. Most of you have now

2545
01:54:11,160 --> 01:54:14,040
Speaker 3: love the show. I skip Christian in LA's time on

2546
01:54:14,120 --> 01:54:16,280
Speaker 3: the show every time. If I ever run into him,

2547
01:54:16,640 --> 01:54:18,040
Speaker 3: I will think about tripping him.

2548
01:54:18,960 --> 01:54:20,880
Speaker 2: Okay, j kinch.

2549
01:54:20,920 --> 01:54:23,320
Speaker 8: I would assume that that's a little tongue in cheek,

2550
01:54:23,400 --> 01:54:25,760
Speaker 8: but if it's not, if it's serious, I would just

2551
01:54:25,800 --> 01:54:29,640
Speaker 8: say there are other things that go on, like I

2552
01:54:29,720 --> 01:54:31,800
Speaker 8: almost never miss a show. Like when I miss a show,

2553
01:54:31,840 --> 01:54:35,000
Speaker 8: it's because I get an opportunity to fill in, as

2554
01:54:35,080 --> 01:54:36,840
Speaker 8: Fred likes to make fun of me for the holiday

2555
01:54:36,880 --> 01:54:39,120
Speaker 8: fill in guy. Otherwise, I'm here every show for the

2556
01:54:39,200 --> 01:54:43,880
Speaker 8: full show, but for Mike and Hevin, the locker.

2557
01:54:43,680 --> 01:54:44,280
Speaker 1: Room is open.

2558
01:54:45,160 --> 01:54:48,120
Speaker 8: There are things that they need to do, like that's

2559
01:54:48,160 --> 01:54:50,400
Speaker 8: part of what we do here, Like it's not just

2560
01:54:50,520 --> 01:54:53,520
Speaker 8: this show. I love the show. Fred loves the show.

2561
01:54:53,560 --> 01:54:56,520
Speaker 8: That's why we're here more often than not. But I

2562
01:54:56,600 --> 01:54:59,040
Speaker 8: don't necessarily make fun of the others that have to

2563
01:54:59,120 --> 01:55:00,800
Speaker 8: go to the locker room as an example.

2564
01:55:00,880 --> 01:55:05,800
Speaker 3: Yeah, Nate and Connecticut rights in Buffalo doesn't scare me

2565
01:55:05,920 --> 01:55:06,360
Speaker 3: too much.

2566
01:55:07,000 --> 01:55:07,840
Speaker 2: Don't get me wrong.

2567
01:55:07,920 --> 01:55:09,680
Speaker 3: I think there's a fifty to fifty chance that who

2568
01:55:09,680 --> 01:55:11,280
Speaker 3: will win the game on Sunday, But I think the

2569
01:55:11,360 --> 01:55:13,400
Speaker 3: Patriots have the ability to beat any team in the

2570
01:55:13,520 --> 01:55:14,400
Speaker 3: NFL this season.

2571
01:55:14,840 --> 01:55:17,600
Speaker 2: I'm just hoping for a very competitive and entertaining game.

2572
01:55:18,040 --> 01:55:20,760
Speaker 3: The Patriots have surpassed my expectations this season, and no

2573
01:55:20,880 --> 01:55:23,080
Speaker 3: matter how the rest of the season goes, I'll be

2574
01:55:23,160 --> 01:55:23,760
Speaker 3: pretty happy.

2575
01:55:24,120 --> 01:55:25,680
Speaker 2: But of course I'm rooting for them to win the

2576
01:55:25,760 --> 01:55:28,080
Speaker 2: Super Bowl. I love the show. Coming up on twenty

2577
01:55:28,200 --> 01:55:29,400
Speaker 2: years of listening, well.

2578
01:55:29,640 --> 01:55:32,960
Speaker 8: I would agree with that the tenor of that email, like, Yeah,

2579
01:55:33,000 --> 01:55:34,640
Speaker 8: I don't think you should be afraid of any of

2580
01:55:34,720 --> 01:55:38,000
Speaker 8: these teams, So if you want to use that word scared,

2581
01:55:38,000 --> 01:55:40,760
Speaker 8: I'm not. Yeah, I would agree, I just but you

2582
01:55:40,880 --> 01:55:43,440
Speaker 8: also said I think it's like a fifty to fifty game.

2583
01:55:43,680 --> 01:55:46,240
Speaker 8: I would agree with that too. I could see Buffalo winning.

2584
01:55:46,280 --> 01:55:48,959
Speaker 8: I could see the Patriots winning. I think the Patriots

2585
01:55:49,000 --> 01:55:50,560
Speaker 8: have some edges in this game that are going to

2586
01:55:50,640 --> 01:55:51,240
Speaker 8: be the difference.

2587
01:55:52,680 --> 01:55:56,640
Speaker 3: Tay from Nebraska rights in, We've got a big game,

2588
01:55:56,720 --> 01:55:58,960
Speaker 3: not only this weekend but also next. I do think

2589
01:55:59,000 --> 01:56:01,160
Speaker 3: they both potentially could really tell us about if this

2590
01:56:01,280 --> 01:56:03,000
Speaker 3: team at this point in the year is ready to

2591
01:56:03,080 --> 01:56:04,160
Speaker 3: make a postseason run.

2592
01:56:04,480 --> 01:56:07,560
Speaker 2: Look, speaking of runs.

2593
01:56:09,120 --> 01:56:12,280
Speaker 3: Friendly to that, none of them looked like Devik, Henry

2594
01:56:12,400 --> 01:56:12,880
Speaker 3: and Mike.

2595
01:56:13,320 --> 01:56:14,040
Speaker 4: What was it like?

2596
01:56:14,280 --> 01:56:17,400
Speaker 9: Wow, just under the bar here, jus, it was crazy

2597
01:56:17,480 --> 01:56:17,720
Speaker 9: in there.

2598
01:56:17,800 --> 01:56:19,520
Speaker 7: This is like I haven't seen a locker room like

2599
01:56:19,600 --> 01:56:22,080
Speaker 7: this busy and maybe go back to twenty nine.

2600
01:56:22,760 --> 01:56:25,200
Speaker 1: Was there a lot out of town and just a

2601
01:56:25,280 --> 01:56:25,760
Speaker 1: lot of new.

2602
01:56:25,680 --> 01:56:29,160
Speaker 7: Faces, A couple out of town, but reporters, cameras just

2603
01:56:29,440 --> 01:56:32,400
Speaker 7: I mean, scrom scrom scrum, I mean we did a bunch.

2604
01:56:32,520 --> 01:56:34,560
Speaker 7: We talked to Diggs at the top as we always do,

2605
01:56:34,720 --> 01:56:40,400
Speaker 7: but him Gonzalez, Tonga, Vederian Lowe mac Hollins, and usually

2606
01:56:40,440 --> 01:56:40,840
Speaker 7: we get.

2607
01:56:40,720 --> 01:56:43,200
Speaker 8: Like maybe two or three, but it's and there was

2608
01:56:43,680 --> 01:56:44,280
Speaker 8: from Tonga.

2609
01:56:44,400 --> 01:56:46,120
Speaker 1: Did you get he was asking.

2610
01:56:45,960 --> 01:56:48,480
Speaker 7: About it and I think he's still dealing with something

2611
01:56:48,560 --> 01:56:51,360
Speaker 7: I you know, but roach he asked him, you know, specifically,

2612
01:56:51,440 --> 01:56:53,040
Speaker 7: how you feeling you're ready to play both sides of

2613
01:56:53,080 --> 01:56:53,320
Speaker 7: the ball.

2614
01:56:53,400 --> 01:56:54,880
Speaker 1: He's like, yeah, you know, I'm feeling pretty good.

2615
01:56:55,000 --> 01:56:57,920
Speaker 7: You know, it's kind of playing a little koy, you know,

2616
01:56:58,000 --> 01:56:59,320
Speaker 7: and the big theme I would just say.

2617
01:56:59,320 --> 01:57:01,480
Speaker 2: But he asked the eating question, not are you going

2618
01:57:01,520 --> 01:57:03,040
Speaker 2: to play? But how do you feel about playing?

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01:57:03,360 --> 01:57:03,520
Speaker 11: Yeah?

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01:57:03,600 --> 01:57:06,800
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, yeah, Now that that's classic broachy. But a

2621
01:57:06,840 --> 01:57:09,040
Speaker 1: lot of stuff about just playing a team a second time?

2622
01:57:09,160 --> 01:57:09,920
Speaker 1: What is a game plan?

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01:57:10,160 --> 01:57:10,480
Speaker 5: Like now?

2624
01:57:10,600 --> 01:57:12,880
Speaker 7: You know, just saying everything is kind of on tape

2625
01:57:12,920 --> 01:57:14,640
Speaker 7: and you know, teams are ultimately going to do what

2626
01:57:14,760 --> 01:57:16,800
Speaker 7: they do best. They might have some wrinkles, but they're

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01:57:16,800 --> 01:57:18,280
Speaker 7: going to get back to what they've done best.

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01:57:19,040 --> 01:57:20,320
Speaker 1: But I just I can't say.

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01:57:20,240 --> 01:57:22,320
Speaker 7: Enough about the atmosphere in the locker room today. And

2630
01:57:22,600 --> 01:57:24,160
Speaker 7: you know a lot of guys are you're underdogs now?

2631
01:57:24,600 --> 01:57:26,320
Speaker 7: Diggs was like I hadn't heard that, and I didn't know.

2632
01:57:26,440 --> 01:57:28,080
Speaker 2: You know, it was it upbeat, it.

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01:57:28,200 --> 01:57:30,640
Speaker 7: Was very up be Yeah, I mean it was any music, no,

2634
01:57:30,800 --> 01:57:32,960
Speaker 7: no music, but just you know, commotion. I mean, there's

2635
01:57:33,000 --> 01:57:34,680
Speaker 7: just so many people in the locker room. I mean

2636
01:57:34,760 --> 01:57:36,840
Speaker 7: it's you know, Paul, you know on Friday, it's just

2637
01:57:36,880 --> 01:57:38,040
Speaker 7: like a little clump usually in.

2638
01:57:38,040 --> 01:57:40,240
Speaker 2: The middle, but this is Jenny elbowing and spread out.

2639
01:57:40,440 --> 01:57:42,760
Speaker 1: Not really well, you know, I like respect my person

2640
01:57:42,800 --> 01:57:43,360
Speaker 1: in the space.

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01:57:44,120 --> 01:57:48,160
Speaker 2: Usually the camera they start yelling at writers that get

2642
01:57:48,160 --> 01:57:49,040
Speaker 2: in front of their camera.

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01:57:49,760 --> 01:57:51,800
Speaker 8: Yeah, yeah, bang in the head with the micro But

2644
01:57:52,160 --> 01:57:52,720
Speaker 8: Diggs was funny.

2645
01:57:52,720 --> 01:57:54,120
Speaker 1: He's like, you know, are you excited. He's like, yeah,

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01:57:54,120 --> 01:57:54,520
Speaker 1: I'm excited.

2647
01:57:54,560 --> 01:57:56,360
Speaker 7: You probably can't tell though, you know, so he's playing

2648
01:57:56,480 --> 01:57:59,360
Speaker 7: cool to the best, close to the best. But yeah,

2649
01:57:59,440 --> 01:58:01,800
Speaker 7: it's just you can tell the energy is really good

2650
01:58:01,880 --> 01:58:05,200
Speaker 7: right now and they're getting ready. I couldn't even see him.

2651
01:58:05,200 --> 01:58:07,120
Speaker 7: I mean I see him in there, but like, there's

2652
01:58:07,160 --> 01:58:09,240
Speaker 7: just it's just a massive humanity the whole locker room.

2653
01:58:10,360 --> 01:58:11,920
Speaker 8: Might make it to the locker room because I think

2654
01:58:12,000 --> 01:58:15,400
Speaker 8: Fred I think, yeah, I might have hit a nerve there, and.

2655
01:58:17,000 --> 01:58:18,200
Speaker 1: He seemed okay, he's the idea.

2656
01:58:18,240 --> 01:58:19,880
Speaker 7: I mean I crossed paths with him a couple of times,

2657
01:58:19,880 --> 01:58:21,480
Speaker 7: but I didn't see what he was, you know, getting

2658
01:58:21,560 --> 01:58:22,080
Speaker 7: himself into.

2659
01:58:22,200 --> 01:58:25,919
Speaker 8: But it was good news for your foods here afterwards

2660
01:58:26,240 --> 01:58:27,120
Speaker 8: you might have to find any.

2661
01:58:27,320 --> 01:58:27,800
Speaker 2: Late than never.

2662
01:58:28,680 --> 01:58:29,200
Speaker 1: So there it is.

2663
01:58:29,240 --> 01:58:30,800
Speaker 7: I ran back because we were just going scrum to

2664
01:58:30,800 --> 01:58:32,160
Speaker 7: scrumb to scrumb, and then I'm like, man, I got

2665
01:58:32,280 --> 01:58:33,880
Speaker 7: to get back to tell the guys like this was

2666
01:58:33,960 --> 01:58:36,280
Speaker 7: you know, really active locker room. From what I see,

2667
01:58:36,360 --> 01:58:38,200
Speaker 7: feels like a playoff, you know, it feels like, you know,

2668
01:58:39,600 --> 01:58:42,600
Speaker 7: games going to get bigger is a big game.

2669
01:58:42,800 --> 01:58:44,760
Speaker 2: They all get harder, and you know next year.

2670
01:58:44,600 --> 01:58:47,240
Speaker 3: They'll have a bigger locker room, so they're gonna need

2671
01:58:47,280 --> 01:58:49,200
Speaker 3: it hopefully. All Right, Well that's going to be it

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01:58:49,280 --> 01:58:53,800
Speaker 3: for this edition of Patriots Unfiltered. Good show, good show,

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01:58:53,840 --> 01:58:58,040
Speaker 3: a lot of analytics talking to bunkery. Uh, we'll be

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01:58:58,120 --> 01:59:01,680
Speaker 3: back tomorrow at noon, a big show because we've got

2675
01:59:01,760 --> 01:59:05,520
Speaker 3: picks in a hurry. Yeah, let's see if that line changes,

2676
01:59:05,600 --> 01:59:06,720
Speaker 3: but we'll see you tomorrow.

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01:59:10,240 --> 01:59:11,080
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