WEBVTT - Special Teams: The Music City Miracle

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<v Speaker 1>Welcome to Special Teams, a production of I Heart Radio

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<v Speaker 1>Greetings and Welcome Inside Special Teams with Jason Smith and

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<v Speaker 1>Mike Harmon, a podcast where we look back at history

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<v Speaker 1>at a team and what made them so special a

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<v Speaker 1>very specific year in sports. We've been doing this for

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<v Speaker 1>a while now and getting to play around with the

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<v Speaker 1>material and the format a little bit is one of

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<v Speaker 1>the more fun things we get to do. And one

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<v Speaker 1>thing we're gonna do here now in the coming weeks

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<v Speaker 1>is we're gonna look back at a couple of special

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<v Speaker 1>teams each week. What we're gonna do is go back

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<v Speaker 1>and re examine famous games in NFL college football, Major

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<v Speaker 1>League Baseball history, the special teams that participated in them,

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<v Speaker 1>and what became afterwards for both of those teams. Our

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<v Speaker 1>sport tonight is the National Football League, and we are

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<v Speaker 1>looking back at the Music City Miracle, one of the

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<v Speaker 1>most famous plays in sports history. But we're gonna do

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<v Speaker 1>it a little differently. You've seen it all from the

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<v Speaker 1>Tennessee Titans point of view and NASA coming around and

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<v Speaker 1>figuring out just how did that Pasco Right along the

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<v Speaker 1>line from I check over to Diyson had it all?

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<v Speaker 1>We've seen that but we're gonna get into what made

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<v Speaker 1>that play possible. And when you look at it from

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<v Speaker 1>the Buffalo Bill side of things, this play takes even

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<v Speaker 1>more mythic proportions, right, madness all around. Right, Well, you

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<v Speaker 1>know the play, you know the family, As you said,

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<v Speaker 1>it's been broken down by everybody way smarter than us.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, Elon musks kid with all the mutant uh

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<v Speaker 1>symbols and these hot hot hike, I mean, the ex

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<v Speaker 1>exponents uh exponential growth for the child as we go.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, there's a lot of great theories on it.

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<v Speaker 1>But you just remember the Buffalo Bills and the time

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<v Speaker 1>in space and what this meant to the trajectory and

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<v Speaker 1>and kind of bouncing football history in a whole other angle.

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<v Speaker 1>So the two thousand Playoffs, the Music City Miracle which

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<v Speaker 1>the Titans beat the Bills sixteen, is on our docket today.

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<v Speaker 1>How before we get to the game, how did these

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<v Speaker 1>teams arrive at this point? For the Buffalo Bills in

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<v Speaker 1>the thousand season, Doug Flutie was entering his second year

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<v Speaker 1>as starter after his Electric Folk Hero debut the year before.

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<v Speaker 1>Flutie comes back from the CFL after being away for years.

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<v Speaker 1>He is amazing. He is incredibly smart, he makes plays,

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<v Speaker 1>he throws in lanes, and Flutie flakes were everywhere, and

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<v Speaker 1>Doug Flutie was the cult icon in the National Football League.

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<v Speaker 1>But Doug Flutie versus Rob Johnson wouldn't go away because

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<v Speaker 1>they got Doug Flutie as a flyer. Rob Johnson is

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<v Speaker 1>someone that the Buffalo bill said, Hey, we gotta go

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<v Speaker 1>get him because when he was in relief of Mark

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<v Speaker 1>Brunell a couple of years before with the Jacksonville Jaguars,

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<v Speaker 1>he played pretty well. So after the nineties seven season,

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<v Speaker 1>the Bills trade a first and fourth rounder and they

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<v Speaker 1>signed Rob Johnson for five years and twenty five million dollars,

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<v Speaker 1>which is a really big contract for a quarterback back then.

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<v Speaker 1>So they were invested in him no matter what. And

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<v Speaker 1>this is the crazy part, Mike that I remember is

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<v Speaker 1>that as good as Flute he was, and you couldn't

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<v Speaker 1>go anywhere without talking about Flute and and and how

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<v Speaker 1>much he meant to the game and what a big

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<v Speaker 1>story was. But still in Buffalo they wanted Rob Johnson

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<v Speaker 1>to play. Yeah, it felt like every week Flute was

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<v Speaker 1>playing for his job in Buffalo, when in the rest

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<v Speaker 1>of the league. He was a superstar because, hey, the

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<v Speaker 1>Bills made a big move for Rob Johnson. They looked

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<v Speaker 1>pretty bad if he could win the starting job. Well,

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<v Speaker 1>it wasn't winning with style, right, there's different levels. We

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<v Speaker 1>live in Los Angeles right reside here. When the Lakers

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<v Speaker 1>are good, there's gotta be some flare to it. Right.

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<v Speaker 1>The whole campaign that the Clippers put together of you know,

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<v Speaker 1>the mean streets versus the league lights or and all

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<v Speaker 1>of those nonsensical billboard even though you went and got

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<v Speaker 1>two of the top five players in the game, you

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<v Speaker 1>know that. You know, we're street tough versus the Lakers. Man,

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<v Speaker 1>it's high flying, it's showtime all around. In Buffalo. They

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<v Speaker 1>wanted a little bit of that. That's what Rob Johnson

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<v Speaker 1>was supposed to bring them, right. The guy with the

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<v Speaker 1>big arm as opposed to Doug Flutie while we had

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<v Speaker 1>the Hail Mary from his college days in the pros,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, made some plays with his legs, extended drives,

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<v Speaker 1>but wasn't a big explosive offensive threat. And people kept wondering, well,

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<v Speaker 1>this is good. But with the big armed guy that

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<v Speaker 1>we spent so much to get, perhaps it could be

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<v Speaker 1>even that much more dominant, So when are we going

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<v Speaker 1>to pull the trigger? So yeah, every week was that debate.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, how how much and how well did he

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<v Speaker 1>have to play to retain that job. So Flutie plays

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<v Speaker 1>well in ninety nine, he goes ten and five and

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<v Speaker 1>the Bills clinch a playoff spot. And now Flutie wasn't

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<v Speaker 1>as great as he was his first year. But the

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<v Speaker 1>big thing the Buffalo defense was really good. They allowed

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<v Speaker 1>the second fewest points in the NFL low in franchise history,

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<v Speaker 1>to nine. This is Ted Washington in the middle of

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<v Speaker 1>that defense and Sam Cowart who was phenomenal, and the

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<v Speaker 1>Bills had a really good young defense and thousand was

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<v Speaker 1>their big coming out party. But they go ten and

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<v Speaker 1>five and they have a meaningless final week game against Indianapolis.

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<v Speaker 1>Now Indianapolis was terrific this year. They had won eleven

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<v Speaker 1>games in a row. What happens, Well, with nothing to

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<v Speaker 1>play for, the Bills decide, well, we're gonna start Rob

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<v Speaker 1>Johnson this game and rest Doug Flutie. What happens Buffalo

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<v Speaker 1>ends Indianapolis is eleven game win streak thirty one to six.

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<v Speaker 1>Rob Johnson throws for two eighties, seven and two touchdowns. Okay,

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<v Speaker 1>well that's nice. He had a nice final week game

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<v Speaker 1>Week sixteen. Except Buffalo. After seeing this, the Bills bench

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<v Speaker 1>Doug Flutie for Johnson for the playoffs. The players were stunned,

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<v Speaker 1>they were pissed. I can't blame him. Wade Phillips, head

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<v Speaker 1>coach of the Buffalo Bills, said afterward that Ralph Wilson,

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<v Speaker 1>the owner, ordered him to make the chain. I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>Flutie always won more than Rob Johnson. Right, Johnson got

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<v Speaker 1>hurt when he got the job. Flutie came in and

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<v Speaker 1>was great. Flutie was great in ninety nine. Then when

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<v Speaker 1>you get into two thousand, a year after, Johnson was

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<v Speaker 1>terrible again. I mean, it's like the Bills didn't know

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<v Speaker 1>how good they had, and it's like, you know, they

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<v Speaker 1>were football karma, saying, no, flute is really your guy.

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<v Speaker 1>Every time Rob Johnson gets a chance, he gets hurt

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<v Speaker 1>or he's ineffective, and Doug Flutie is the guy. And

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<v Speaker 1>can you imagine making a change at quarterback solely because

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<v Speaker 1>the guy you you picked finally had one good game

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<v Speaker 1>and you go away from your starter the entire season.

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<v Speaker 1>I can't believe there wasn't a mutiny for the Bills

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<v Speaker 1>going into the game against the Titans. Well, just the

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<v Speaker 1>fact that Wade Phillips, Hey, it was him, he ordered me,

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<v Speaker 1>he ordered I didn't do it. Yeah, no, he I

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<v Speaker 1>voted for Kodos like the you he gets. Certainly, Flutie

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<v Speaker 1>was the locker room guy, right, Everybody rallied around him.

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<v Speaker 1>They played well. Johnson was the hot shot guy. All

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<v Speaker 1>these years later, Right, it's still the I don't understand

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<v Speaker 1>and that I got screwed, and and there's a lot

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<v Speaker 1>of negativity that flows out of it. It's like, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>we we see it in sports all the time, and

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<v Speaker 1>look at look back to Philadelphia. Right, there's just always

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<v Speaker 1>this weird dynamic has gone on these last couple of

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<v Speaker 1>years with Carson Wentz. What happened when he went down

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<v Speaker 1>and Nick Foles went in, everybody rallied around that guy.

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<v Speaker 1>Doesn't make sense on a larger scale, no, because when

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<v Speaker 1>starting played, Okay had his moments, but certainly nothing like

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<v Speaker 1>the magic of that playoff run that earned him a

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<v Speaker 1>statue outside the stadium. Same thing here with Doug Flutie.

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<v Speaker 1>There was just something about him where you rally. So

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<v Speaker 1>this always became a sticking point and today with social media,

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<v Speaker 1>sports talk radio, sports television, uh, to the level that

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<v Speaker 1>it is now. I mean, you'd be shunned if you

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<v Speaker 1>you try to do this again. I mean, as an owner,

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<v Speaker 1>this this is what it gets you to start turning

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<v Speaker 1>over front office people, coaches, and players with great regularity

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<v Speaker 1>because you're hearing it from all ends. Yeah, this is

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<v Speaker 1>something that, if it was now, would dominate sports talk

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<v Speaker 1>radio every week. Can you believe that the bill still

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<v Speaker 1>want to play Rock Johnson all Doug Fluti does his

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<v Speaker 1>win and he has spark plug plays, and he runs

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<v Speaker 1>for first downs on third and fifteen and makes clutch

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<v Speaker 1>throws to the end zone on on fade patterns. I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>it would be it wouldn't make sense that this would

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<v Speaker 1>be going on. And we'll be talking about it all

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<v Speaker 1>the time. But this is the drama the Bills carried

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<v Speaker 1>with them into the wild card game against the Titans. Now,

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<v Speaker 1>the Titans had a great year, all right. They cruised

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<v Speaker 1>through the regular season. It was the first year they

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<v Speaker 1>were the Titans. You know, they drafted Javon Curse, who

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<v Speaker 1>turned into a superstar player for a few years. They

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<v Speaker 1>went thirteen and three. Eddie George was a stud. This

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<v Speaker 1>was one of those solid, all around quintessential heritage NFL

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<v Speaker 1>teams that you would see going to Super Bowls in

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<v Speaker 1>the seventies and eighties. Boy, they got a really good defense,

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<v Speaker 1>they got a really good running game, they got a

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<v Speaker 1>quarterback and makes play is They get everything they need.

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<v Speaker 1>Jeff Fisher is is a young up and coming head coach.

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<v Speaker 1>You know before he was, oh my god, Jeff Fisher. Seriously,

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<v Speaker 1>this is when Jeff Fisher was, Oh Jeff Fisher. We

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<v Speaker 1>gotta go get Jeff Fisher. And they go thirteen and three.

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<v Speaker 1>But Jacksonville goes fourteen and two, so that relegates the

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<v Speaker 1>Titans into the wild card game. Steve McNair, as great

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<v Speaker 1>of a reputation as he had on the field as

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<v Speaker 1>a playmaker, didn't have a great season. All right. The

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<v Speaker 1>Titans didn't score a ton of points. He only threw

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<v Speaker 1>twelve touchdowns, you know, when he ran for eight, which

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<v Speaker 1>would put his total up, you know, respectable twenty. He

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<v Speaker 1>also only played in eleven games because McNair was a

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<v Speaker 1>guy that had tough time staying healthy and really the

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<v Speaker 1>spark plug. And I can't believe I'm saying this because people.

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<v Speaker 1>I remember what he was like with the Jets. But

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<v Speaker 1>nil o'donald started five games when you thought his career

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<v Speaker 1>was over all, right, what you go to the Jets

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<v Speaker 1>and you fail, your career is done. But no, no, no,

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<v Speaker 1>he comes in relief of McNair, starts five games, throws

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<v Speaker 1>ten touchdowns in five games. All right, that's to lesson

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<v Speaker 1>McNair in six less games. So o'donald was really good.

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<v Speaker 1>The Marcus Mariota, Ryan Tannehill winging around kind of idea, right,

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<v Speaker 1>But still McNair was the starter. He was beloved, and

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<v Speaker 1>he was you know, and he still look he engineered

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<v Speaker 1>them to a lot of wins. It was nice to

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<v Speaker 1>have o'donald in relief. So when the wild card game comes,

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<v Speaker 1>McNair is the quarterback. But it's not like this was

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<v Speaker 1>a team that boy Tennessee put up a lot of points.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, this was Tennessee is winning all around solid play,

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<v Speaker 1>and now we're gonna see what can they do in

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<v Speaker 1>the playoffs? How far can this take them? So the Titans,

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<v Speaker 1>who were eight no at home and healthy, match up

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<v Speaker 1>against the Bills and what turns into the Music City

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<v Speaker 1>miracle Coming up next will relive the play, the game,

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<v Speaker 1>and the crazy things that actually made it possible that

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<v Speaker 1>I still can't believe twenty years later. That's coming up

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<v Speaker 1>next right here on Special Teams. We're continuing on with

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<v Speaker 1>Special Teams as we look back at the Music City Miracle.

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<v Speaker 1>The special teams involved the Bills and the Tennessee Titans,

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<v Speaker 1>and we'll get to the Music City Miracle play coming

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<v Speaker 1>up in a couple of minutes. But this playoff game

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<v Speaker 1>that was won by the Titans sixteen and what he's

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<v Speaker 1>going down with one of the most famous plays in

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<v Speaker 1>NFL history. In fact, you could probably say, outside of

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<v Speaker 1>the Immaculate Reception, this is the next most famous play

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<v Speaker 1>in NFL history. We've seen it a million times and

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<v Speaker 1>we've broken it down, but this play, the big home

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<v Speaker 1>run throwback and Frank why Chick just has some kind

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<v Speaker 1>of place mythologically. But to say that this was a

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<v Speaker 1>great game was a bit of a misconception because this game,

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<v Speaker 1>like this was a terrible game. This is one of

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<v Speaker 1>those games you watch and go, well, it's an NFL

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<v Speaker 1>playoff aim on TV, so I'm gonna watch it. I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>it really had everything was in that final Music City

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<v Speaker 1>Miracle play. Oh no, absolutely, it was a lot of

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<v Speaker 1>build up. At least you got the big finish to it,

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<v Speaker 1>because I mean when when you're big plays earlier, I

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<v Speaker 1>think I took a safety. Really, that's that's the guy

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<v Speaker 1>you're fighting. Yeah, we got a safety. He takes the safety.

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<v Speaker 1>And yes you celebrate because everybody stands up, does the

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<v Speaker 1>I Dream a Genie dance and does all that with it.

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<v Speaker 1>That you get a little bit excited there, but certainly

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<v Speaker 1>it's it's not one that inspires great, great confidence overall

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<v Speaker 1>as to what your offense is bringing to the table.

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<v Speaker 1>And he got a scoreless first quarter and Buffalo doesn't

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<v Speaker 1>get out of the gates. This game can be summarized

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<v Speaker 1>with this sentence. Steve McNair through for seventy six yards

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<v Speaker 1>in this game. Yeah, Rob Johnson threw for one thirty

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<v Speaker 1>one and he actually had a worst game the McNair.

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<v Speaker 1>You're talking about the two starting quarterbacks that combined in

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<v Speaker 1>a playoff game to throw for two yards. All right, now, Johnson,

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<v Speaker 1>like I said, he was worse. He was ten out

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<v Speaker 1>of twenty two. He got sacked six times and he

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<v Speaker 1>fumbled three times. What's the biggest shock is that, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>this is how much from above this game with Ralph Wilson,

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<v Speaker 1>because as bad as they struggled, Doug Flute was never

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<v Speaker 1>put into the game. He doesn't get off the badch

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<v Speaker 1>How do you not get in the game when Rob

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<v Speaker 1>Johnson is this bad and and and you have no

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<v Speaker 1>offense for three and a half, three and two thirds

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<v Speaker 1>quarters in this game. And because Flutie had played so

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<v Speaker 1>well during the year, that's the thing, right, It's not

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<v Speaker 1>like he was hurt or that he'd been grossly ineffective

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<v Speaker 1>to where you had a true competition even though you're

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<v Speaker 1>making the playoffs and you're and you're pushing forward. I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>he played well for you, and he's sitting there just

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<v Speaker 1>on the on the bench. Hey, someone just hied his helmet.

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<v Speaker 1>He's not getting in. I mean that that's I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>I look at it now. So there's no way they

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<v Speaker 1>wouldn't go to Flutie if was not bad. There's no

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<v Speaker 1>way they wouldn't have done. You know, if that, if

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<v Speaker 1>that was the decision to be made by Wade Phillips,

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<v Speaker 1>there's there's no question about it. I mean that that's

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<v Speaker 1>done at the end of the first quarter, if not before. Yeah,

0:14:12.120 --> 0:14:15.440
<v Speaker 1>it's it's it's field goals, field goals, field goals. And

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<v Speaker 1>this game comes down to the end, the final couple

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<v Speaker 1>of minutes. Let's just say the final couple of minutes,

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<v Speaker 1>because we had some drama before the Music City Miracle.

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<v Speaker 1>Buffalo was down. Well that's the other thing, is that

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<v Speaker 1>as badly as they played there in the game. Yeah, no, no, no,

0:14:32.600 --> 0:14:35.120
<v Speaker 1>they were in the game. You're right, Buffalo as bad

0:14:35.160 --> 0:14:37.480
<v Speaker 1>as they were, but their defense was really good. So

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<v Speaker 1>was the Titans. And that's why, you know, I wanted

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<v Speaker 1>to make sure we mentioned that the Bill's defense is

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<v Speaker 1>really the hallmark of this team as much as it

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<v Speaker 1>was Flute. He was, like I said, Ted Washington was

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<v Speaker 1>a big dude man and you couldn't move him and

0:14:48.440 --> 0:14:50.400
<v Speaker 1>coward and you had a lot of talent on on

0:14:50.480 --> 0:14:53.400
<v Speaker 1>that Bill's defense, and they were really tough to score on.

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<v Speaker 1>So the fact that this was that kind of game

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<v Speaker 1>is really not that shocking. But when you can't put

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<v Speaker 1>any offense on the board and your quarterback is getting

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<v Speaker 1>sacked what they called Johnson robosack, you know, because you

0:15:05.720 --> 0:15:07.480
<v Speaker 1>know he couldn't stop getting sacked. He was staying in

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<v Speaker 1>the pocket and get hit. I mean, you have to

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<v Speaker 1>make a move. You try to, you know, get a

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<v Speaker 1>get up, some kind of spark on your offense, but

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<v Speaker 1>they stick with Rob Johnson, and Johnson actually gets Buffalo

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<v Speaker 1>the sixteen fifteen lead right there, down by two with

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<v Speaker 1>a minute forty eight left to go. Right because you're

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<v Speaker 1>you're talking field goals, field goals, field goals. Rob Johnson

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<v Speaker 1>throws for a big first down without a shoe on

0:15:32.480 --> 0:15:35.080
<v Speaker 1>to get Buffalo to the twenty four yard line, and

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<v Speaker 1>now you're getting inside a minute. He had lost a

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<v Speaker 1>shoe the play before, he couldn't put it back on.

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<v Speaker 1>He throws for a big first down, and now with

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<v Speaker 1>twenty seconds left, Buffalo's got the football at the twenty

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<v Speaker 1>four yard line of the Titans. They're down by a

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<v Speaker 1>field goal. Twenty seconds left, the Bills have no time outs.

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<v Speaker 1>And this is where things get interesting. Why don't the

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<v Speaker 1>Bills have any time outs? Well, because they burned one

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<v Speaker 1>the previous drive on defense because they were all yelling

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<v Speaker 1>at each other because the Titans had the lead and

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<v Speaker 1>and they were trying to run the clock out, and

0:16:10.200 --> 0:16:13.440
<v Speaker 1>the Bills lost their composure and they had to use

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<v Speaker 1>the time out when they didn't have the ball. Just

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<v Speaker 1>to hey, hey, guys, let's cooler heads prevail here. Let's

0:16:19.520 --> 0:16:22.000
<v Speaker 1>make sure we stopped them. Now, it worked, they stopped

0:16:22.000 --> 0:16:23.920
<v Speaker 1>there and got the ball back, but they had no

0:16:24.000 --> 0:16:26.640
<v Speaker 1>timeouts because of this. So the Bills are now faced

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<v Speaker 1>with twenty seconds left in the game. They have first

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<v Speaker 1>down at the twenty four yard line. Now this is

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<v Speaker 1>an eternity, right, and if this was now in the

0:16:35.280 --> 0:16:37.600
<v Speaker 1>National Football League teams, it's all right. We got plenty

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<v Speaker 1>of time. We can run a play anywhere we want to.

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<v Speaker 1>We can throw the ball to either whatever we want

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<v Speaker 1>to do and get inside the twenty, get inside the

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<v Speaker 1>ten and run up, spike it and then come out

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<v Speaker 1>and kick a field goal. I mean, twenty seconds is

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<v Speaker 1>an eternity to do that. All you have to do

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<v Speaker 1>is hope Rob Johnson doesn't get sacked. And you know,

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<v Speaker 1>look Rob Johnson liked to get sacked. But still yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>but still you would think they would now they would

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<v Speaker 1>run a play easy a league. No, the Bills decide

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<v Speaker 1>instead of that, we are going to kick the field

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<v Speaker 1>goal with twenty seconds left, Whereas conventional wisdom now says,

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<v Speaker 1>we'll run a play, we'll get up there, we'll let

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<v Speaker 1>the clock tick down to two or three seconds because

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<v Speaker 1>we have no time out, so it doesn't matter with

0:17:15.920 --> 0:17:18.159
<v Speaker 1>a bad snap. We can't just call time out and

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<v Speaker 1>try to kick the ball again on the next play.

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<v Speaker 1>So we let it go down to two or three seconds,

0:17:22.160 --> 0:17:24.080
<v Speaker 1>called time out, and we kicked the game winner on

0:17:24.119 --> 0:17:26.720
<v Speaker 1>the final play. That's what every team would do, but

0:17:26.840 --> 0:17:29.320
<v Speaker 1>the Bills didn't do it. Many of the coaches on

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<v Speaker 1>the sideline wanted the Bills to call run another play,

0:17:32.560 --> 0:17:34.920
<v Speaker 1>but Wade Phillips said, no, I want to send out

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<v Speaker 1>Steve Christie to try to kick this field goal. And

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<v Speaker 1>now there are few kickers that were that were as

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<v Speaker 1>accurate as Steve Christie. Christie gets on the field makes

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<v Speaker 1>it forty one yards out. Bills have the lead with

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<v Speaker 1>twenty seconds left. Rob Johnson looks like a hero. All

0:17:49.560 --> 0:17:52.000
<v Speaker 1>the Bills have to do is defend for sixteen seconds

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<v Speaker 1>and things are gonna be great. But now you're seeing

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<v Speaker 1>some of the things that played into the fact why

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<v Speaker 1>the Music City Miracle was able to happen. Bad lock management,

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<v Speaker 1>yelling at each other on defense. You go back and

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<v Speaker 1>watch the video and it's laughable because we see that

0:18:07.600 --> 0:18:10.000
<v Speaker 1>in games, and now it doesn't force you to call

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<v Speaker 1>time out, might be a busted play, might be a

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<v Speaker 1>little out of position, whatever, but your management is usually

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<v Speaker 1>a little bit better than that. So then we get

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<v Speaker 1>the Music City miracle and we get the home run

0:18:22.280 --> 0:18:24.920
<v Speaker 1>throwback and Frank white check throws it back to Kevin

0:18:24.960 --> 0:18:28.040
<v Speaker 1>Dyson who catches the lateral and goes seventy five yards

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<v Speaker 1>for a touchdown. Uh. I remember when this happened, watching

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<v Speaker 1>it live. I was producing uh sports for KBC here

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<v Speaker 1>in l A. We were going on the air after

0:18:38.000 --> 0:18:40.320
<v Speaker 1>the game was over and we had a big football

0:18:40.359 --> 0:18:42.920
<v Speaker 1>show going on. We're saying to ourselves, I'm like, man,

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<v Speaker 1>this is a terrible game. What the hell are we

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<v Speaker 1>gonna talk about? We got this, we got field goals.

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<v Speaker 1>It's you know, it's all right, but we can talk

0:18:48.440 --> 0:18:50.480
<v Speaker 1>about it's a terrible game. But it's still the one

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<v Speaker 1>point game, right right, but still but it's like, okay,

0:18:53.119 --> 0:18:54.800
<v Speaker 1>you're looking for some kind of excitement. This has been

0:18:54.800 --> 0:18:58.200
<v Speaker 1>a crappy game. And then the Music City miracle happens

0:18:58.240 --> 0:19:00.080
<v Speaker 1>and Dyson goes in for a touchdown, and this all

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<v Speaker 1>kinds of questions, is the play? Is the play legal?

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<v Speaker 1>Are they gonna can they all go back and and

0:19:06.920 --> 0:19:10.200
<v Speaker 1>and look at there was all these different things that

0:19:10.240 --> 0:19:12.720
<v Speaker 1>we were wondering because it happens like, oh my god, really,

0:19:12.760 --> 0:19:16.080
<v Speaker 1>just take one throwback to the other side and and

0:19:16.600 --> 0:19:19.000
<v Speaker 1>Dicon goes all the way for a touchdown. Because that's

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<v Speaker 1>what that's what it came to me, was that we've

0:19:21.680 --> 0:19:24.280
<v Speaker 1>seen crazy plays before, and we've seen touch on. Look

0:19:24.320 --> 0:19:27.600
<v Speaker 1>the Dolphins touchdown to beat the Patriots on the on

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<v Speaker 1>the final play a couple of years ago. But you

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<v Speaker 1>see a lot of change of directions and and and

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<v Speaker 1>players moving, and then you get too many people on

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<v Speaker 1>one side of the field, and there's a couple of

0:19:36.480 --> 0:19:38.960
<v Speaker 1>blocks that are thrown. But this is after the play

0:19:39.080 --> 0:19:41.960
<v Speaker 1>change direction two or three times. This was just here's

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<v Speaker 1>a kick to white Check, who picks it up, throws

0:19:44.320 --> 0:19:47.439
<v Speaker 1>it across the field, and there's nobody there because Bills

0:19:47.600 --> 0:19:50.120
<v Speaker 1>have no one there and diceon. It's not like Dyson's

0:19:50.119 --> 0:19:53.480
<v Speaker 1>gotta run and make this incredible uh play, or there's

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<v Speaker 1>any more laterals. He's got a convoy all the way

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<v Speaker 1>to the end zone. So I'm like, how did that happen?

0:19:59.400 --> 0:20:01.200
<v Speaker 1>Did the Bills just think they were gonna go down

0:20:01.200 --> 0:20:05.040
<v Speaker 1>the field like zombies and and just and and the Titans,

0:20:05.040 --> 0:20:06.800
<v Speaker 1>we're gonna fall on the football. I mean, even if

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<v Speaker 1>you're staying in your lane on the kickoff team, which

0:20:09.400 --> 0:20:11.199
<v Speaker 1>is what you're supposed to do in a situation like this.

0:20:11.440 --> 0:20:13.480
<v Speaker 1>Believe me, I was a kickoff team star in high school.

0:20:13.480 --> 0:20:17.200
<v Speaker 1>And you've talked about it's really been on hands and everything.

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<v Speaker 1>I always stayed in my lane. I did not know

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<v Speaker 1>even if you stayed you're listening to LaVar Ball before

0:20:21.840 --> 0:20:24.280
<v Speaker 1>you knew, you were listening to lay in yo lane.

0:20:24.600 --> 0:20:27.000
<v Speaker 1>And even if you do that, you're gonna make a

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<v Speaker 1>play on Dipe. But there's nothing even close to a

0:20:28.760 --> 0:20:31.680
<v Speaker 1>play on Dison on this even close. No, He's able

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<v Speaker 1>to stroll straight in and it's it all just becomes

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<v Speaker 1>a You start arguing. He's like, well, we knew the

0:20:37.160 --> 0:20:40.879
<v Speaker 1>play should have been disallowed. Was the only defense that

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<v Speaker 1>you had for a lackluster effort to get after Dyson

0:20:44.920 --> 0:20:48.200
<v Speaker 1>and make any type of play on this? Uh? Is, Well,

0:20:48.280 --> 0:20:51.440
<v Speaker 1>it was an illegal pass, so it shouldn't account it.

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<v Speaker 1>So we didn't run after him as hard as we

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<v Speaker 1>should have or any anything of that nature. But yeah,

0:20:56.800 --> 0:20:59.000
<v Speaker 1>caught with their pants down on special teams in a

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<v Speaker 1>big way because white Check runs all the way to

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<v Speaker 1>the right side of the field, and all the bills

0:21:04.280 --> 0:21:07.040
<v Speaker 1>they broke containment, and it's do you really, Frank white

0:21:07.080 --> 0:21:09.040
<v Speaker 1>Check is not gonna run by all of you into

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<v Speaker 1>the end zone. Okay, if white Check's got the football,

0:21:11.680 --> 0:21:13.800
<v Speaker 1>you just gotta wait. He'll run. He'll find you eventually.

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<v Speaker 1>All right. The guy's a tight end, but they all

0:21:15.920 --> 0:21:18.040
<v Speaker 1>broke contain was able to throw it all the way

0:21:18.040 --> 0:21:20.280
<v Speaker 1>back to the other side of the field. Dyson goes

0:21:20.320 --> 0:21:22.840
<v Speaker 1>in for a touchdown, and then they stopped because they

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<v Speaker 1>had to look at it to see if the play

0:21:24.520 --> 0:21:27.199
<v Speaker 1>was a lateral because if it was, obviously the Titans

0:21:27.200 --> 0:21:30.280
<v Speaker 1>get penalized for the legal forward pass. And the referee

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<v Speaker 1>who is gonna make this decision is Phil Luckett, who

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<v Speaker 1>you know from all kinds of other controversies, the the

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<v Speaker 1>the coin flip and Thanksgiving with the Steelers and the Lions,

0:21:41.200 --> 0:21:45.800
<v Speaker 1>the Vinny Testa Verdi touchdown against the the Seahawks, in

0:21:47.080 --> 0:21:49.959
<v Speaker 1>all kinds of Phil Lucket stuff that there were, and

0:21:50.040 --> 0:21:52.480
<v Speaker 1>he was the referee in this game, and he really

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<v Speaker 1>doesn't even have a role in it because as we

0:21:55.000 --> 0:21:57.800
<v Speaker 1>see by replays that we've seen hundreds of times. It

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<v Speaker 1>looks in every angle we've seen to be a clear lateral.

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<v Speaker 1>Is one of those rare plays that it goes right

0:22:04.280 --> 0:22:07.000
<v Speaker 1>along a plane and that's a legal play. It's been

0:22:07.040 --> 0:22:10.560
<v Speaker 1>dissected so many different ways, right, and you wish you

0:22:10.600 --> 0:22:13.560
<v Speaker 1>had more cameras. You wish you had this that the other.

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<v Speaker 1>From all analysis, it works. It stands up one of

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<v Speaker 1>the more controversial plays of recent memory and one that

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<v Speaker 1>always gets replay conversations and people wringing their hands about

0:22:28.160 --> 0:22:31.399
<v Speaker 1>the whole concept. Right, not not the result of this

0:22:31.480 --> 0:22:35.159
<v Speaker 1>particular play, but what it means on a larger scale

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<v Speaker 1>when we get deep into this for football, baseball, whatever

0:22:38.320 --> 0:22:41.520
<v Speaker 1>it is. But play that is now one of the

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<v Speaker 1>most famous, as you say on the metal stand for

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<v Speaker 1>all of NFL history and legend making and career and

0:22:50.280 --> 0:22:54.640
<v Speaker 1>franchise defining on so many levels. And the reason they're

0:22:54.640 --> 0:22:58.000
<v Speaker 1>able to review this is because instant replay had come

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<v Speaker 1>back to the NFL just this year. There were some

0:23:01.600 --> 0:23:04.360
<v Speaker 1>miscalls and games that that fans are upset about. There

0:23:04.400 --> 0:23:08.800
<v Speaker 1>was a big push for review. In fact, Jerry rice

0:23:08.880 --> 0:23:10.960
<v Speaker 1>Is non fumble call in the wild card game between

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<v Speaker 1>the Niners and the Packers that was the play that

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<v Speaker 1>really convinced the NFL that all right, we gotta have

0:23:17.000 --> 0:23:20.639
<v Speaker 1>replay now. So they have replay in for n And

0:23:20.640 --> 0:23:22.840
<v Speaker 1>what Phil Luckett is looking at is he's looking at

0:23:22.880 --> 0:23:26.320
<v Speaker 1>justice see if it is a lateral, it's called a lateral.

0:23:26.720 --> 0:23:30.640
<v Speaker 1>And Dyson in pre in interviews afterwards said he thought

0:23:30.680 --> 0:23:33.040
<v Speaker 1>about going out of bounds because they needed just a

0:23:33.040 --> 0:23:34.440
<v Speaker 1>field goal to win the game, and there was all

0:23:34.520 --> 0:23:36.439
<v Speaker 1>kinds of time left right because they kicked off with

0:23:36.640 --> 0:23:44.720
<v Speaker 1>sixteen too much time on the lock. But for that's

0:23:44.760 --> 0:23:48.040
<v Speaker 1>never been said ever. Rob Johnson never didn't even get

0:23:50.000 --> 0:23:52.199
<v Speaker 1>But Dyson said, the only guy that had shot at

0:23:52.200 --> 0:23:54.119
<v Speaker 1>me was Steve Christie, and we were blocking him. So

0:23:54.160 --> 0:23:56.040
<v Speaker 1>I'm just gonna run into the end zone and that's

0:23:56.119 --> 0:23:58.959
<v Speaker 1>that's what he did, and the Music City miracle happens,

0:23:58.960 --> 0:24:01.000
<v Speaker 1>and the Titans win and they use this as a

0:24:01.080 --> 0:24:03.479
<v Speaker 1>huge run to the super Bowl, and the Bills are

0:24:03.520 --> 0:24:07.040
<v Speaker 1>going home saying what happened to us? But really it's

0:24:07.119 --> 0:24:09.879
<v Speaker 1>it's you know, they didn't execute on the play, but

0:24:10.000 --> 0:24:12.440
<v Speaker 1>it was everything leading up to it. There were three

0:24:12.560 --> 0:24:14.520
<v Speaker 1>or four things they could have done that could have

0:24:14.520 --> 0:24:16.520
<v Speaker 1>stopped this play from happening. Don't have to worry about

0:24:16.600 --> 0:24:18.240
<v Speaker 1>using your time outs when you're yelling at each other

0:24:18.240 --> 0:24:20.840
<v Speaker 1>on defense. Uh, you know, let the clock tick down,

0:24:20.920 --> 0:24:23.720
<v Speaker 1>run another play, do something, because had they just run

0:24:23.760 --> 0:24:26.879
<v Speaker 1>another play and let's say they spiked it with you know,

0:24:26.960 --> 0:24:30.520
<v Speaker 1>eight seconds left or ten seconds left, Dyson's probably running

0:24:30.560 --> 0:24:32.159
<v Speaker 1>out of bounds. Oh my god, if I don't get

0:24:32.200 --> 0:24:33.760
<v Speaker 1>in the end, no no, no, no no, no, maybe he's

0:24:33.880 --> 0:24:35.600
<v Speaker 1>he's okay this eight. I gotta get out. We gotta

0:24:35.680 --> 0:24:37.359
<v Speaker 1>kick the game winning field goal to try to win.

0:24:37.440 --> 0:24:41.080
<v Speaker 1>Just that psychology, all those things the Bills could have done,

0:24:41.119 --> 0:24:43.560
<v Speaker 1>and instead they did none of them, and they allowed

0:24:43.600 --> 0:24:45.760
<v Speaker 1>this play to happen. I mean, it's fascinating to look

0:24:45.800 --> 0:24:50.399
<v Speaker 1>at it from the Bill's perspective. Buffalo, Yo, all of

0:24:50.440 --> 0:24:55.640
<v Speaker 1>that disaster, all of those failures throughout the game. Yet wait,

0:24:55.920 --> 0:24:59.520
<v Speaker 1>and the defense kept them in, made just enough plays

0:25:00.040 --> 0:25:04.200
<v Speaker 1>except well, one fail. So the Titans go on to

0:25:04.280 --> 0:25:06.600
<v Speaker 1>the super Bowl, the Bills go to the off season.

0:25:07.200 --> 0:25:09.560
<v Speaker 1>What happened with both of these teams, Well, it was

0:25:09.680 --> 0:25:12.640
<v Speaker 1>the end of an absolute error for one of them,

0:25:12.640 --> 0:25:16.040
<v Speaker 1>and another one well, let's just say the fortunes of

0:25:16.040 --> 0:25:20.360
<v Speaker 1>the NFL changed forever because the home run throwback went

0:25:20.440 --> 0:25:23.080
<v Speaker 1>for a touchdown that's coming up next on special teams.

0:25:39.640 --> 0:25:42.399
<v Speaker 1>So America is gasping at one of the most thrilling

0:25:42.480 --> 0:25:45.160
<v Speaker 1>ends to a football game in NFL history. And as

0:25:45.200 --> 0:25:47.159
<v Speaker 1>we said many times in the podcast, it's going down

0:25:47.240 --> 0:25:49.359
<v Speaker 1>to one of the top two or three plays of

0:25:49.520 --> 0:25:53.040
<v Speaker 1>all time. What did this game? What did this result

0:25:53.119 --> 0:25:55.679
<v Speaker 1>mean for both teams? Well, for the Bills, it was

0:25:55.720 --> 0:25:57.680
<v Speaker 1>really the end of the Bill's era. I mean, these

0:25:57.680 --> 0:26:00.200
<v Speaker 1>teams that we watched go to the Super Bowl year

0:26:00.200 --> 0:26:02.920
<v Speaker 1>after year after year in the early nineteen nineties. It

0:26:02.960 --> 0:26:05.639
<v Speaker 1>was the last year for Bruce Smith, Andre Reid, and

0:26:05.680 --> 0:26:09.560
<v Speaker 1>Thurman Thomas. At this point they were not quite spare parts,

0:26:09.560 --> 0:26:12.480
<v Speaker 1>but these were the veterans that are that had seeded

0:26:12.520 --> 0:26:14.640
<v Speaker 1>the way two younger players. Look, the Bills had gone

0:26:14.640 --> 0:26:17.480
<v Speaker 1>to Antoine Smith at running back, and you know, these

0:26:17.480 --> 0:26:21.600
<v Speaker 1>guys were done. They were all released after the season

0:26:21.640 --> 0:26:24.560
<v Speaker 1>for salary cap reasons. So this really was the end

0:26:24.680 --> 0:26:27.680
<v Speaker 1>of that era of the Bills up even though Jim

0:26:27.720 --> 0:26:29.920
<v Speaker 1>Kelly had left a quarterback. You know a few years ago,

0:26:30.560 --> 0:26:33.920
<v Speaker 1>Buffalo actually goes through one more year with both Doug

0:26:33.960 --> 0:26:36.240
<v Speaker 1>Flutie and Rob Johnson the quarterback. I mean, how insane

0:26:36.320 --> 0:26:38.160
<v Speaker 1>is this? They say, no, No, we're gonna go one

0:26:38.160 --> 0:26:40.879
<v Speaker 1>more year with both of these guys. They finally commit

0:26:40.960 --> 0:26:44.760
<v Speaker 1>to Rob Johnson and trade Flutie to San Diego after

0:26:44.840 --> 0:26:48.600
<v Speaker 1>two thousand, Right, all right, finally Rob's our guy and

0:26:48.720 --> 0:26:52.679
<v Speaker 1>we're gonna move on. Well. Rob Johnson with a concussion

0:26:52.680 --> 0:26:55.840
<v Speaker 1>and a rib injury and a leg injury in two thousand,

0:26:55.920 --> 0:26:59.960
<v Speaker 1>a broken collarbone in two thousand one. Could never stay healthy,

0:27:00.000 --> 0:27:02.440
<v Speaker 1>couldn't keep the job, always held on to the football

0:27:02.480 --> 0:27:05.320
<v Speaker 1>way too long, got sacked way too much, and the

0:27:05.359 --> 0:27:08.840
<v Speaker 1>Bills eventually had to start completely over again. This shows

0:27:08.840 --> 0:27:12.320
<v Speaker 1>you what happens when you're going a downward spiral when

0:27:12.320 --> 0:27:14.359
<v Speaker 1>you picked the wrong quarterback. Because it was like, I

0:27:14.359 --> 0:27:16.240
<v Speaker 1>feel like the Bills they had this in front of them,

0:27:16.400 --> 0:27:19.440
<v Speaker 1>they fluty, what about john Tonana? But fluty na, what

0:27:19.440 --> 0:27:22.520
<v Speaker 1>about all right? It's like the football God said, listen,

0:27:22.560 --> 0:27:24.920
<v Speaker 1>we we've given the Bills all kinds of signs. They're

0:27:24.960 --> 0:27:26.600
<v Speaker 1>not taking them now. They got to start over again,

0:27:26.800 --> 0:27:28.680
<v Speaker 1>and it took the Bills a long time to get back.

0:27:28.800 --> 0:27:30.760
<v Speaker 1>Took him a long time to get back to the playoffs,

0:27:30.800 --> 0:27:32.840
<v Speaker 1>which they didn't do until a couple of years ago. Yeah,

0:27:32.880 --> 0:27:35.760
<v Speaker 1>I think that's the curiosity of it, right, is you're

0:27:35.760 --> 0:27:38.480
<v Speaker 1>always trying to figure out what's the how long is

0:27:38.520 --> 0:27:40.359
<v Speaker 1>the tail on the back end? Right when you do

0:27:40.400 --> 0:27:43.040
<v Speaker 1>your statistics and you see you know how you how

0:27:43.080 --> 0:27:45.960
<v Speaker 1>you roll through? What what are you gonna get for fluty?

0:27:46.000 --> 0:27:49.760
<v Speaker 1>How long does it ride? Well? But it's working, right.

0:27:49.800 --> 0:27:52.040
<v Speaker 1>You want to make sure you've got the competent backup,

0:27:52.600 --> 0:27:55.320
<v Speaker 1>but you don't want to create the controversy and problems

0:27:55.400 --> 0:27:58.800
<v Speaker 1>and instead what you have here because you paid money,

0:27:58.880 --> 0:28:01.200
<v Speaker 1>you feel compelled that he's got to be on the field,

0:28:01.280 --> 0:28:05.040
<v Speaker 1>or at least that's the thought for management. So it

0:28:05.200 --> 0:28:09.520
<v Speaker 1>just creates an unnecessary distraction in the locker room and

0:28:09.880 --> 0:28:12.920
<v Speaker 1>problem on the field, as we see, because well he

0:28:13.359 --> 0:28:15.960
<v Speaker 1>was never that guy. He was not the guy to

0:28:16.040 --> 0:28:18.879
<v Speaker 1>lead them forward. And who's to say how long flute

0:28:18.880 --> 0:28:22.480
<v Speaker 1>he's rain would have been. But certainly you do what

0:28:23.000 --> 0:28:26.240
<v Speaker 1>they play, other players did when he was on the field,

0:28:26.280 --> 0:28:30.680
<v Speaker 1>what he meant to that city, and you just tore

0:28:30.760 --> 0:28:33.320
<v Speaker 1>that asunder. Now for the Titans, they go on to

0:28:33.400 --> 0:28:36.000
<v Speaker 1>the Super Bowl before losing to the Rams. With one

0:28:36.040 --> 0:28:38.120
<v Speaker 1>of the other most top five most famous plays in

0:28:38.120 --> 0:28:41.240
<v Speaker 1>the NFL history Mike Jones tackle on the final play

0:28:41.240 --> 0:28:43.880
<v Speaker 1>of the game and the Titans fall a yard short

0:28:44.400 --> 0:28:48.040
<v Speaker 1>of potentially going to overtime. The Rams win the Super Bowl.

0:28:48.400 --> 0:28:50.080
<v Speaker 1>But if you're the Titans, you go, all right, well,

0:28:50.080 --> 0:28:52.040
<v Speaker 1>we had one incredible play that went our way. I think,

0:28:52.080 --> 0:28:54.560
<v Speaker 1>you know, Lady Luck kind of was, you know, drew

0:28:54.640 --> 0:28:56.800
<v Speaker 1>us even at the end of the Super Bowl. But

0:28:56.880 --> 0:29:00.000
<v Speaker 1>still that moment became so huge. It's still the big

0:29:00.000 --> 0:29:02.719
<v Speaker 1>It's in team history, the Music City Miracle and that

0:29:02.800 --> 0:29:06.400
<v Speaker 1>team and that Titans team of thousand is always going

0:29:06.440 --> 0:29:09.200
<v Speaker 1>to be legendary. But here's where things get really interesting,

0:29:09.240 --> 0:29:12.160
<v Speaker 1>because you know, we say once in a while there

0:29:12.160 --> 0:29:15.320
<v Speaker 1>are flashpoints. So there are moments in the history of

0:29:15.400 --> 0:29:18.280
<v Speaker 1>sports where if one result goes one way, just one

0:29:18.360 --> 0:29:24.280
<v Speaker 1>play goes one way, then NFL history changes. And it's

0:29:24.320 --> 0:29:26.560
<v Speaker 1>incredible to think that way. But you know, we we

0:29:26.640 --> 0:29:30.200
<v Speaker 1>talked about this on our radio show earlier this year

0:29:30.280 --> 0:29:33.360
<v Speaker 1>when Don Shula passed away, had the Jets one Super

0:29:33.360 --> 0:29:36.240
<v Speaker 1>Bowl three, everything changes, you know, the a f L.

0:29:36.640 --> 0:29:39.200
<v Speaker 1>If the Jets don't win, they don't merge with the NFL.

0:29:39.560 --> 0:29:42.840
<v Speaker 1>Don Shula probably stays as head coach in Baltimore, doesn't

0:29:42.840 --> 0:29:46.880
<v Speaker 1>go to Miami, and Miami maybe doesn't go undefeated win

0:29:46.920 --> 0:29:49.400
<v Speaker 1>the Super Bowl back to back years, and maybe the

0:29:49.400 --> 0:29:53.360
<v Speaker 1>Colts franchise doesn't move and maybe Elway plays there instead

0:29:53.360 --> 0:29:56.080
<v Speaker 1>of Denver, and you know all these things happen. Well, yeah,

0:29:56.160 --> 0:29:58.000
<v Speaker 1>and then Shula was in the middle of it again

0:29:58.040 --> 0:30:00.800
<v Speaker 1>with the fake Spike games. You know, will well, well,

0:30:01.200 --> 0:30:03.479
<v Speaker 1>I promise you will do the fake Spike game in

0:30:03.480 --> 0:30:07.080
<v Speaker 1>a future episode. Carroll and everything else. It's the same.

0:30:07.400 --> 0:30:12.920
<v Speaker 1>It's the same idea. Yeah, I'm sorry, I I I

0:30:12.960 --> 0:30:14.960
<v Speaker 1>get it. It's just you know, I need to be

0:30:15.040 --> 0:30:16.240
<v Speaker 1>in the right frame of mind to do it, to

0:30:16.280 --> 0:30:19.479
<v Speaker 1>go through. Understand. And that Kevin Diyson was also in

0:30:19.480 --> 0:30:22.160
<v Speaker 1>both these plays. It's kind of exactly. You know, Dyson

0:30:22.280 --> 0:30:23.880
<v Speaker 1>is the big hero and then he's one yard short

0:30:23.920 --> 0:30:25.840
<v Speaker 1>at the end, but clearly he was one yard short

0:30:26.480 --> 0:30:29.200
<v Speaker 1>or half the yard short, and it was boy, he

0:30:29.240 --> 0:30:32.120
<v Speaker 1>went from I can't believe my fortune too, I can't

0:30:32.120 --> 0:30:36.920
<v Speaker 1>believe my fortune. Yeah. But let's just say the Music

0:30:36.960 --> 0:30:39.640
<v Speaker 1>City miracle goes the other way and the Buffalo Bills

0:30:39.680 --> 0:30:42.280
<v Speaker 1>win the game. All right, Let's just say Phil Luckett

0:30:42.320 --> 0:30:45.080
<v Speaker 1>decides dah looked like the ball in a little bit forward,

0:30:45.160 --> 0:30:47.680
<v Speaker 1>so he all right, I'm gonna say that that's a

0:30:47.720 --> 0:30:51.360
<v Speaker 1>forward pass. The Bills win the game. If that happens,

0:30:52.560 --> 0:30:56.200
<v Speaker 1>NFL history changes because Rob Johnson wins a playoff game

0:30:56.600 --> 0:30:59.200
<v Speaker 1>and he is cemented in as the Buffalo Bill started.

0:30:59.240 --> 0:31:03.040
<v Speaker 1>I don't know how far they go in the playoffs,

0:31:03.080 --> 0:31:05.760
<v Speaker 1>but he clearly is the starter. Buffalo commits to him

0:31:05.760 --> 0:31:08.040
<v Speaker 1>and they move on from Doug Flutie then, and they

0:31:08.080 --> 0:31:11.680
<v Speaker 1>trade him when Flutie has got a lot of value. Now,

0:31:11.720 --> 0:31:15.120
<v Speaker 1>if they trade Flutie after that offseason, then the Chargers

0:31:15.120 --> 0:31:19.040
<v Speaker 1>don't get him after two thousand So do the Chargers

0:31:19.080 --> 0:31:22.240
<v Speaker 1>still draft Drew Brees after that? Or they have a

0:31:22.280 --> 0:31:25.440
<v Speaker 1>different situation at quarterback because they don't have Flutie, because

0:31:25.480 --> 0:31:28.760
<v Speaker 1>Flutie goes someplace else, and maybe Breeze is not a Charger,

0:31:28.800 --> 0:31:30.520
<v Speaker 1>which means maybe then he doesn't wind up with the

0:31:30.520 --> 0:31:34.680
<v Speaker 1>New Orleans Saints and that changes. Or maybe the Chargers decide, well,

0:31:35.080 --> 0:31:37.920
<v Speaker 1>we didn't really solve our quarterback problem because we don't

0:31:37.920 --> 0:31:40.360
<v Speaker 1>have Doug Flutie, so maybe we'll take Michael Vick with

0:31:40.480 --> 0:31:42.720
<v Speaker 1>the first overall pick in the two thousand and one draft,

0:31:42.760 --> 0:31:46.160
<v Speaker 1>and maybe then Ladanian Tomlinson winds up with another team,

0:31:46.200 --> 0:31:48.960
<v Speaker 1>and all of these things push all these star players

0:31:49.240 --> 0:31:52.360
<v Speaker 1>in a whole bunch of different directions. Now, maybe maybe

0:31:52.400 --> 0:31:55.959
<v Speaker 1>things do happen a little bit, you know, alongside those lines,

0:31:56.240 --> 0:31:59.480
<v Speaker 1>but still without Doug Flutie going to the Chargers a

0:31:59.600 --> 0:32:02.440
<v Speaker 1>year eater, then maybe things change and Vic is on

0:32:02.480 --> 0:32:05.760
<v Speaker 1>the Charges in LaDainian tomlinsons somewhere else and he's going

0:32:05.800 --> 0:32:08.280
<v Speaker 1>to the Hall of Fame as somewhere as with another team,

0:32:08.320 --> 0:32:11.080
<v Speaker 1>and you know, all those dominoes fall that way. But

0:32:11.480 --> 0:32:13.480
<v Speaker 1>he never becomes a Jet, so you don't get to

0:32:13.520 --> 0:32:16.160
<v Speaker 1>claim him as a Jet. Maybe the Jets trade up

0:32:16.160 --> 0:32:18.920
<v Speaker 1>and get him early. We had him for his entire career. Wow,

0:32:18.920 --> 0:32:21.480
<v Speaker 1>how about that? Maybe they do. But yeah, it just

0:32:21.520 --> 0:32:24.200
<v Speaker 1>shows the it's a game of inches. We we joke

0:32:24.280 --> 0:32:28.080
<v Speaker 1>about that on Sundays and we talk about the margin

0:32:28.160 --> 0:32:31.600
<v Speaker 1>of victory. Right, It's most games are seven points are fewer.

0:32:32.000 --> 0:32:35.400
<v Speaker 1>And the National Football League and here you're talking about

0:32:35.840 --> 0:32:39.920
<v Speaker 1>three ft less than three ft change the fortunes of

0:32:39.960 --> 0:32:42.600
<v Speaker 1>a lot of top picks and where they ended up

0:32:42.640 --> 0:32:45.720
<v Speaker 1>with their careers, and be curious to throw this theory

0:32:45.880 --> 0:32:49.640
<v Speaker 1>up at them. So through our Fox family, I think

0:32:49.640 --> 0:32:52.800
<v Speaker 1>we're gonna have to uh start knocking on some doors. Hey,

0:32:52.840 --> 0:32:56.040
<v Speaker 1>we talked about this. What do you think. I don't

0:32:56.040 --> 0:32:57.840
<v Speaker 1>even think life would have been like if we If

0:32:57.840 --> 0:33:00.000
<v Speaker 1>this is how it going down, well I still got

0:33:00.040 --> 0:33:04.320
<v Speaker 1>one more for you, and it affects the current National

0:33:04.320 --> 0:33:07.360
<v Speaker 1>Football League. Right, So Jeff Fisher is still up and

0:33:07.400 --> 0:33:10.600
<v Speaker 1>coming head coach Jeff Fisher. They go to the Super

0:33:10.640 --> 0:33:13.840
<v Speaker 1>Bowl and Jeff Fisher gets to stay with the Titans

0:33:13.840 --> 0:33:17.360
<v Speaker 1>four years now. I mean he goes all you know,

0:33:17.400 --> 0:33:20.800
<v Speaker 1>I mean he goes all the way through to as

0:33:20.840 --> 0:33:24.920
<v Speaker 1>the Titans head coach. He never got to the levels

0:33:24.960 --> 0:33:26.560
<v Speaker 1>that he got to go to the Super Bowl in

0:33:26.560 --> 0:33:29.720
<v Speaker 1>that year. So let's just say he loses that playoff game.

0:33:30.600 --> 0:33:34.520
<v Speaker 1>Jeff Fisher's resume doesn't look as great as it was, right,

0:33:34.560 --> 0:33:37.120
<v Speaker 1>So does he really make it to his head coach

0:33:37.120 --> 0:33:40.320
<v Speaker 1>of the Titans. Probably not, So the Titans hire somebody else.

0:33:40.560 --> 0:33:43.920
<v Speaker 1>Jeff Fisher goes someplace else, and maybe Jeff Fisher is

0:33:43.960 --> 0:33:46.880
<v Speaker 1>not coaching the Rams, who then replaced him with Sean

0:33:47.000 --> 0:33:49.640
<v Speaker 1>McVeigh and he gets them to the super Bowl and

0:33:49.640 --> 0:33:51.840
<v Speaker 1>turns the Rams into a super relevant team. So this

0:33:51.920 --> 0:33:54.800
<v Speaker 1>is you're going back twenty years with one play. Maybe

0:33:54.800 --> 0:33:56.680
<v Speaker 1>the Rams don't get to the super Bowl two years

0:33:56.680 --> 0:34:00.360
<v Speaker 1>ago because of it. I mean about that, and it

0:34:00.560 --> 0:34:03.760
<v Speaker 1>never becomes an issue on our show with Eric Dickerson

0:34:03.800 --> 0:34:07.560
<v Speaker 1>where they've got a call for his ouster Jason Cole

0:34:07.880 --> 0:34:10.720
<v Speaker 1>or any of our friends of the show. In terms

0:34:10.760 --> 0:34:13.520
<v Speaker 1>of what it all meant with Jeff Fisher, yeah, I mean,

0:34:13.560 --> 0:34:15.640
<v Speaker 1>because you know, going to a super Bowl, he generally

0:34:15.640 --> 0:34:18.520
<v Speaker 1>buys you a couple of years. Sometimes you have owners

0:34:18.520 --> 0:34:21.319
<v Speaker 1>that are a little quicker with the trigger finger, or

0:34:21.680 --> 0:34:24.440
<v Speaker 1>or a guy leaves and doesn't get that legacy because

0:34:24.440 --> 0:34:27.880
<v Speaker 1>he gets the better offer and bolts. But yeah, for

0:34:27.960 --> 0:34:30.000
<v Speaker 1>Jeff Fisher, this bought him a lot of time. He

0:34:30.080 --> 0:34:33.280
<v Speaker 1>was the guy that you know, was successfully moving teams

0:34:33.320 --> 0:34:36.560
<v Speaker 1>and all that other stuff to buy him. And he

0:34:36.640 --> 0:34:39.280
<v Speaker 1>was on the competition committee. You don't forget that. Always

0:34:39.320 --> 0:34:42.040
<v Speaker 1>forget he was there. Yes, he was there. Yeah, So

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<v Speaker 1>that helps. So let's play it out, because this tells

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<v Speaker 1>you about Jeff Fisher is that they go thirteen and

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<v Speaker 1>three this year and they go to the Super Bowl

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<v Speaker 1>and lose. Well, they go thirteen and three the next year,

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<v Speaker 1>but they lose in the first round of the playoffs.

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<v Speaker 1>Then they go seven and nine Jeff Fisher's first seven

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<v Speaker 1>and nine year. Uh. Then they're eleven and five and

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<v Speaker 1>twelve and four and things are still pretty good. But

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<v Speaker 1>then in two thousand four, two thousand five, two thousand six,

0:35:05.280 --> 0:35:08.200
<v Speaker 1>Fisher goes five at eleven four and twelve, eight and eight.

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<v Speaker 1>At this point, does Fisher still keep his job? Because

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<v Speaker 1>if that gets you bounce, if you don't have that

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<v Speaker 1>Super Bowl, you're saying, well, we've been to the playoffs

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<v Speaker 1>four times, but we haven't really gotten in very far,

0:35:18.719 --> 0:35:21.800
<v Speaker 1>and we haven't been there in three years. And Vince

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<v Speaker 1>Young is in now and he's the offensive rookie of

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<v Speaker 1>the year, so maybe now is it time to make

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<v Speaker 1>a change at head coach. And so then Jeff Fisher

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<v Speaker 1>is out of their years earlier, which means, as I said,

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<v Speaker 1>he gets a job someplace else, in someplace else, and

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<v Speaker 1>maybe he doesn't end up with the Rams and then

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<v Speaker 1>ending up with Sean mcvagh succeeding him. Yeah, Domino's fall,

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<v Speaker 1>no question about it, because five at eleven, four and twelve,

0:35:45.239 --> 0:35:49.319
<v Speaker 1>those two years you're done. You're done. That Super Bowl

0:35:49.400 --> 0:35:52.760
<v Speaker 1>is already five years, six years in the rear view, mirror,

0:35:53.800 --> 0:35:55.400
<v Speaker 1>and even though you got back to another a f

0:35:55.480 --> 0:35:58.520
<v Speaker 1>C title game, you lost that one off at eleven

0:35:58.560 --> 0:36:01.600
<v Speaker 1>and five season, and then a divisional game against the

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<v Speaker 1>Patriots two thousand three after another twelve and four season.

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<v Speaker 1>So I mean, you you had everything stats, you dominated

0:36:08.719 --> 0:36:11.160
<v Speaker 1>the regular season. Then it couldn't get over. You know,

0:36:11.320 --> 0:36:15.360
<v Speaker 1>you don't get anymore. Super Bowl bought him, but another

0:36:15.520 --> 0:36:18.759
<v Speaker 1>four years beyond that, I mean, it's amazing. Alright, Mike,

0:36:18.800 --> 0:36:20.560
<v Speaker 1>how'm a little where are they now from the Music

0:36:20.600 --> 0:36:22.160
<v Speaker 1>City Miracle game? What do you got for us? All right,

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<v Speaker 1>let's have a little bit of fun. You've got Jason Fisks,

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<v Speaker 1>defensive tackle. He's an AP chemistry teacher in Vacaville, California. Really,

0:36:31.880 --> 0:36:35.040
<v Speaker 1>I was terrible at AP chemistry. I was off. I'm like,

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<v Speaker 1>just right sixty because I'll do enough work to pass,

0:36:37.680 --> 0:36:39.279
<v Speaker 1>but I'm not gonna do any better than just let

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<v Speaker 1>me through succeeds. Yeah, he was a Stanford grad. So

0:36:43.760 --> 0:36:47.320
<v Speaker 1>smart guy went back to northern California getting it done.

0:36:47.880 --> 0:36:53.239
<v Speaker 1>You got Dusty Ziegler, Benny. This takes two prongs. The

0:36:53.280 --> 0:36:57.800
<v Speaker 1>first part decided, Hey, I'm gonna run for Republican and

0:36:57.920 --> 0:37:02.080
<v Speaker 1>a Republican ticket for a county commission her seat in Georgia.

0:37:03.239 --> 0:37:06.120
<v Speaker 1>And then after all of that process of being involved

0:37:06.120 --> 0:37:09.160
<v Speaker 1>in that sphere, well he became an offensive line coach.

0:37:09.520 --> 0:37:16.000
<v Speaker 1>So there you have Kurt Schultz, the safety. So he

0:37:16.120 --> 0:37:21.720
<v Speaker 1>was good. He works for Merrill Lynch and since Kevin

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<v Speaker 1>Dyson is the man on display, I mean in the

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<v Speaker 1>hero and well the guy that you had to hug

0:37:27.960 --> 0:37:31.520
<v Speaker 1>after being one yard short, he got his m s d.

0:37:32.800 --> 0:37:37.120
<v Speaker 1>And then he works at a middle school where he

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<v Speaker 1>is the principal grassling in Franklin, Tennessee. Wow, do you

0:37:43.280 --> 0:37:45.400
<v Speaker 1>think the kids can up and go hey, Mr Dyson?

0:37:45.440 --> 0:37:47.279
<v Speaker 1>They put their arm out like they're trying to cross

0:37:47.320 --> 0:37:51.720
<v Speaker 1>the gold line. He came up with a great dance

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<v Speaker 1>number for this assembly. What's this? The whole the whole

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<v Speaker 1>motto for our year is don't be one yard short

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<v Speaker 1>from by You know, I remember being the Super Bowl

0:38:03.520 --> 0:38:06.560
<v Speaker 1>we finished one yard short. Don't let this happen to you.

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