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Speaker 1: and the official Dallas Cowboys at now Here are Bill Jones,
Speaker 1: Savannah Humoller, Everson Wolves, and Mickey Spagnola.
Speaker 3: Way to go, Chris, and things are already better here
Speaker 3: for chrisco. Yes, Savannah has made the open.
Speaker 4: I'm so happy, you know.
Speaker 3: And we're always trying to or I am always trying
Speaker 3: to spin it positive on this show.
Speaker 4: So good, block, I've.
Speaker 3: Got one positive right off the top. How about them Rangers.
Speaker 2: You met so funny.
Speaker 5: I was talking to my brother last night. I hadn't
Speaker 5: been checking them out, and he gave me the whole
Speaker 5: rundown on how they got topsy turvy. We went in
Speaker 5: trouble ye two weeks ago.
Speaker 3: Like lost four one six, lost four. Now they've won
Speaker 3: five in a row again.
Speaker 4: And so and have a magic number of five.
Speaker 3: Yeah, the magic number is down to five.
Speaker 5: I tell him give me some information because we don't
Speaker 5: want to talk cowboys today.
Speaker 3: That's right.
Speaker 2: So there you go.
Speaker 3: We got just the right topic. Instead of it's the
Speaker 3: final week of the baseball season.
Speaker 4: Instead of playing cowboys stampede, We're gonna play cowboys retreat.
Speaker 5: No, no, mamas, don't let your babies cowboys.
Speaker 2: That's what we're gonna do.
Speaker 3: I was wondering if the Rangers had a stampede song. Yeah,
Speaker 3: it was a stampeded Seattle, all right, So might as
Speaker 3: well jump right in everybody else.
Speaker 2: We jump into the deep end, jump into the pirana.
Speaker 3: Infested deep end, and uh, here we are. You know,
Speaker 3: there were like five unbeaten teams that lost on Sunday.
Speaker 3: By the end of this night, assuming there's a winner
Speaker 3: and not a tie between Philadelphia and Tampa Bay, there
Speaker 3: will be three unbeaten, untied teams left in the league, Miami,
Speaker 3: San Francisco, and the winner of tonight's Philadelphia Tampa Bay.
Speaker 2: Miami is going crazy.
Speaker 4: How do you give up seventy points?
Speaker 2: How do you score seventy points?
Speaker 3: You haven't I thought last I thought last year's Denver
Speaker 3: team was the worst.
Speaker 2: No, here comes Sean Payton. I can do better. I
Speaker 2: mean that I can do worse.
Speaker 4: That's high school stuff.
Speaker 5: Seven right, that's HBCU versus Power five schools. Come on,
Speaker 5: Gramley got beat by LSU. They put a seventy burger
Speaker 5: on us.
Speaker 4: It seems like the majority.
Speaker 2: Said that again, seventy burger.
Speaker 5: Yeah yeah, put seventy plus on us against L s U.
Speaker 2: It was seventy even, wasn't it?
Speaker 3: Was it? You know how they did that ten touchdowns?
Speaker 6: Wow?
Speaker 2: Yep, damn.
Speaker 6: I couldn't.
Speaker 2: I never would have thought of that. That's amazing.
Speaker 7: Man.
Speaker 3: Solo possessions, I'm not sure that Miami did yesterday. But
Speaker 3: we're digressing.
Speaker 2: Yes, well, we want to digress.
Speaker 4: The Cardinals didn't have any hollow possessions in the first half.
Speaker 4: That's right, went five for five.
Speaker 5: How about that run defense, guys, it was amazing the
Speaker 5: one that was fixed.
Speaker 2: Yes, the one that is well.
Speaker 3: I stayed up till two o'clock in the morning trying
Speaker 3: to fix that run defense. I looked at it. I've
Speaker 3: got some details. I don't have to jump right into
Speaker 3: the right off the bat and start with some general observations.
Speaker 5: General observation is every time we do our picks to click,
Speaker 5: we are always a week behind.
Speaker 4: We ain't doing those. We're not going to spend any
Speaker 4: time on any of that.
Speaker 2: We are horrible when it comes to try to fix
Speaker 2: this team out.
Speaker 3: It's just like Everson. You don't give out game balls
Speaker 3: when the team loses, and we don't review picks to click.
Speaker 4: Because nothing clicked. The scores weren't accurate.
Speaker 5: What was what was the model last week? Put away
Speaker 5: the anointing oil.
Speaker 4: Well, but that's the way that's for everybody outside. I'm
Speaker 4: not giving them that excuse that they went in there
Speaker 4: all high and mighty and weren't emotionally ready to play
Speaker 4: number one. To me, they had opportunities to win this
Speaker 4: game despite the injuries. And I know what the injuries
Speaker 4: on the offensive line did. Missing three fifths of your starters.
Speaker 3: All who have been to either at least one, if
Speaker 3: not to eight Pro Bowls.
Speaker 4: Yea, and being replaced by two guys that were making
Speaker 4: their first NFL starts and had gotten into the NFL
Speaker 4: as undrafted free agents. So I understand injuries matter. But
Speaker 4: there were no injuries that affected the run defense on defense, right,
Speaker 4: I know Diggs was not there, but it was the
Speaker 4: run defense giving up two one hundred and twenty two
Speaker 4: yards and I was thinking, man, when is the last
Speaker 4: time they gave up that many yards or more? Well,
Speaker 4: they gave up two hundred and forty to the Bears
Speaker 4: last year if you remember, but they won.
Speaker 2: Well, that was and there was a lot of the
Speaker 2: quarterback was as well.
Speaker 4: The quarterback did forty four start the game? Right, that's true, And.
Speaker 3: So worse than the two hundred and twenty two was
Speaker 3: the one hundred eighty two in the first.
Speaker 4: Ye which was the most since nineteen eighty one against
Speaker 4: I was gonna say against the Cowboys. Yeah, nineteen ninety one.
Speaker 2: Okay, I was going to say it may have been us.
Speaker 2: I was ready to fall on the sword. It was.
Speaker 4: It was nineteen ninety So the run defense and the
Speaker 4: entire defense, if they had just played average, you have
Speaker 4: a chance to win the game.
Speaker 2: Right.
Speaker 4: And then what we thought was, you know one of
Speaker 4: those things last week with problems in the red zone
Speaker 4: and goal to go, Well, it's a problem now because
Speaker 4: now there are three four to eleven scoring touchdowns inside
Speaker 4: the red zone. You can't win ball games like.
Speaker 3: And forget the red zone the offense and then goal
Speaker 3: to go even work. But I'm talking just in general.
Speaker 3: How many touchdowns has the offense scored in three games six? Right,
Speaker 3: they've got three passing touchdowns, one a four yard pass
Speaker 3: to Jacob Ferguson one a one yard pass to a
Speaker 3: tackle eligible tight end Luke Schoonmaker, and one in yesterday's
Speaker 3: game fifteen or sixteen yards whatever it was to Recodoubtle r.
Speaker 3: And so none to wide receiver.
Speaker 4: Well there should have been one. And if anybody has
Speaker 4: the front page of the sports section of the Dallas
Speaker 4: Morning News, there is a picture of number fifty, number
Speaker 4: twenty two in Michael Gallops grill. The ball is about
Speaker 4: from where I'm at to Savannah. He's got his arms
Speaker 4: reached out and the guy doesn't turn his head, smashes
Speaker 4: into him and there's a flag. Ye, some reason they
Speaker 4: picked it up.
Speaker 2: What did they say about that at the press costs?
Speaker 4: I didn't say, Dak.
Speaker 2: I meant the post game dak uh.
Speaker 4: He tap danced around it, saying you would have liked
Speaker 4: that call or something.
Speaker 3: Well, but the first thing, to his credit what Dak
Speaker 3: said was he should have. Yeah, it was a little
Speaker 3: under the thrown, so he was kind.
Speaker 2: Of putting very catchable. Yeah it's it was catchable.
Speaker 3: But he, as he said in his press conference afterwards,
Speaker 3: he should have got it out. Quicker got it out
Speaker 3: ahead of Gallup where he's making the catch.
Speaker 4: In the end stone but regardless.
Speaker 3: But yeah, I mean, but then he said, you know,
Speaker 3: Michael Gallup had the best perspective of everybody on it
Speaker 3: because he was the one that had the guy.
Speaker 4: And since I'm we just started there the holding on
Speaker 4: Michael Parsons, don't tell me the hold was at the
Speaker 4: one yard line. The hold was from the goal line.
Speaker 2: Wow, that really got me safety.
Speaker 5: I'm up here doing the LMO right dance touchdown celebration.
Speaker 5: I'm thinking, oh, we're going to get this safety right now.
Speaker 5: I'm just waiting on them to get together, talk it out,
Speaker 5: and he's gonna come back with it.
Speaker 4: And by the way, I can't wait to talk to
Speaker 4: John Fossil because I can't find the hold on Harper
Speaker 4: on the punt return.
Speaker 5: Oh, that was a hold where it was on the
Speaker 5: release after the snap. It wasn't during the return.
Speaker 4: Yeah, I know, because that's why they marked it. From
Speaker 4: where he comes now.
Speaker 3: He was engaged with him and then it targeted and
Speaker 3: it wouldn't let go.
Speaker 2: He wouldn't let.
Speaker 4: Go, and the guy turned he pushed them down.
Speaker 2: Well, no, he I think it was a jersey. He
Speaker 2: had jersey.
Speaker 5: He had jersey, and hey, you know, me. I'm with you,
Speaker 5: I know, but that that was a legitimate call. That
Speaker 5: was a legitimate call.
Speaker 4: I think you can call one of those on every.
Speaker 2: And that is another point. It's a legitimate call. But
Speaker 2: do you call that as diligently as you should?
Speaker 4: But anyway, the fact that they had opportunities to win
Speaker 4: the game and got beat twenty eight to sixteen, and
Speaker 4: even though they're in the game, when it's twenty one
Speaker 4: sixteen with nine thirty three to go, you don't have
Speaker 4: to give up a sixty nine yard pass that somebody
Speaker 4: no one even bothered to cover.
Speaker 2: Was it man to man or zone?
Speaker 4: Well, someone was playing I saw Gilmore playing man. He
Speaker 4: was and everybody else was playing the zone in zone.
Speaker 2: So he followed his man in side right. He should
Speaker 2: have been.
Speaker 4: Deep third and nobody was there.
Speaker 2: I thought he should have been deep there. I think, yeah, because.
Speaker 5: Sometimes they'll have a defense to wear the zone one
Speaker 5: side and then there's man one side. So maybe that
Speaker 5: was one of those defenses. I have no idea.
Speaker 4: Well, it wasn't a good defense.
Speaker 2: It was not. It was a bad cause.
Speaker 8: I mean ten penalties in this first half.
Speaker 4: Guess in the game.
Speaker 3: Yeah, the first thirteen.
Speaker 4: Yeah, the first half.
Speaker 8: I mean, what are your perspectives on just that first
Speaker 8: half as a whole. I mean that definitely set us
Speaker 8: back big time.
Speaker 5: That was that was lazy football to me. That's what
Speaker 5: I called it. Lazy football.
Speaker 4: The false starts I didn't get.
Speaker 2: And then it's like they all lost their minds at
Speaker 2: the same time.
Speaker 4: The off side, the off sides, and I saw Parson
Speaker 4: remarked about it that the officials said something to them
Speaker 4: about calling in the neutral zone before the game started,
Speaker 4: but the one he got called for that they I
Speaker 4: think they declined it. It looked like he was going
Speaker 4: to be off sides because he started, but he never
Speaker 4: crossed the line of scrimmage, and it's like, what are
Speaker 4: you doing?
Speaker 3: So, having said that, on the Parsons sack, yeah, Sam
Speaker 3: Williams jumped and I went back and looked at it
Speaker 3: and it was very close whether whether the ball had
Speaker 3: been snapped yet. Yeah, I on my TV at home.
Speaker 3: I had to sit there and I had to get
Speaker 3: it right. And you can get it to where the
Speaker 3: ball hasn't been snapped yet, and his hand is into
Speaker 3: the neutral zone where they could have called it, but
Speaker 3: they didn't call it. On the ground on the ground
Speaker 3: right like he started in the new tright he jumped forward,
Speaker 3: so Cowboys almost had Parson. I'm a little surprised that
Speaker 3: the Cowboys got the call on that, no call on that.
Speaker 4: Which, by the way, on the punt return, I thought
Speaker 4: it was Sam Williams holding because he looked like he
Speaker 4: was holding this guy up the middle, and I said, oh,
Speaker 4: he just got the number.
Speaker 5: Well, obviously they knew that this was an opportunity, so
Speaker 5: everyone was really concentrating on keeping the man from coming
Speaker 5: down the field, but just a little too vigorous.
Speaker 4: And it didn't have anything to do with the return.
Speaker 3: God, what a run that was.
Speaker 4: You could just see it. I thought he was going
Speaker 4: when when where you're in at the game, you can
Speaker 4: see the whole field at once, and you're looking up
Speaker 4: and going, oh, here we go. And that didn't happen,
Speaker 4: so anyway to me, you know, no, I understand the
Speaker 4: injuries and we'll find out more. The worst part about
Speaker 4: him was not until Saturday did they think anybody was
Speaker 4: going to miss a game. When I when I checked
Speaker 4: on Friday, it was like, we're making Beadish and Zach
Speaker 4: Martin questionable just to cover ourselves. Because they didn't practice
Speaker 4: or would not have practiced on Friday, but thought they
Speaker 4: could play.
Speaker 2: I was very surprised.
Speaker 4: And then on Saturday, on Saturday, yeah, on Saturday, and
Speaker 4: go ahead me. On Saturday, they're leaving for the get
Speaker 4: for for the charter, and it's like Tyron Smith now
Speaker 4: turns up on the injury report, and they said on
Speaker 4: Sunday that, well, we're going to work them out. And
Speaker 4: then when they did the inactives, they didn't make them
Speaker 4: an active. Yeah, and they didn't make him an active
Speaker 4: and they said I was told that he was available
Speaker 4: on an emergency situation. Well, at some point in the
Speaker 4: second quarter, I deemed it an emergency. Get his ass
Speaker 4: in there. Yeah, right, I don't need an injury the
Speaker 4: office is injured an emergency. And I wondered if they
Speaker 4: considered moving Tyler Smith from from left guard to well,
Speaker 4: I think, I think, except that he had not played.
Speaker 3: To your point on it was so late in the week,
Speaker 3: meaning the day before the game, before they realized they
Speaker 3: didn't have these guys. Now, Zach didn't practice all week,
Speaker 3: so they were they were fighting there. As far as
Speaker 3: his replacement, TJ Bass starts at right guard, and but
Speaker 3: as far as Beattish goes, and so Hoffman doesn't get
Speaker 3: the reps during practice this week, and Tyrone had worked
Speaker 3: out during the had been practicing during the week, and
Speaker 3: so Chumba hadn't got and so had they had Tyler
Speaker 3: come up lame. To your point, if Tyler had come
Speaker 3: up lame on Wednesday, Tyron Tyrone, I mean come up
Speaker 3: lame on Wednesday, then they might have kicked Tyler out.
Speaker 3: But we don't know for sure what Mike Clari's thoughts
Speaker 3: are on where Tyler Smith is. I mean, obviously he
Speaker 3: considered him from the outset. He's exclusively working at left
Speaker 3: guard right, but they did that last year and then
Speaker 3: Tyron got hurt and they kicked him out to left.
Speaker 4: Tackle because during the week Tuma Adugo was playing left
Speaker 4: basically left guard.
Speaker 3: So if Tyron was out for multiple weeks, I wonder
Speaker 3: could they would do.
Speaker 4: I know what I would have done.
Speaker 3: They would probably kick Tyler out to left tackle.
Speaker 4: I would think Tuma had guard.
Speaker 3: Yeah, so, but since Tyler had and he was just
Speaker 3: coming back getting his first activity of the season, well
Speaker 3: he hadn't played a game since last year.
Speaker 5: He looked like it looked like it. So it was
Speaker 5: a lot of penalties. I don't know if you have that, Savannah,
Speaker 5: how many penalties did he have?
Speaker 3: I don't have specifics.
Speaker 4: Tyler, Oh, I thought he just had one?
Speaker 2: Was it just one? Yeah? I saw something.
Speaker 5: I thought I saw at least two calls on him.
Speaker 2: All right, So.
Speaker 4: Well, so I don't know. That's That's what I thought,
Speaker 4: that that game was winnable even though they got beat.
Speaker 2: I agreed.
Speaker 4: Twenty eight six.
Speaker 2: I agree, I agree, it.
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Speaker 3: Okay and Everson asked the question about Tyler Smith in
Speaker 3: the offense. But you're thinking more Terrence Steele rather than
Speaker 3: Tyler Tyler, I've according to Pro Football Reference, Tyler did
Speaker 3: not have an offensive did not have a penalty in
Speaker 3: the game. So just to clear that up, thank you.
Speaker 3: Let's clear Tyler Smith's name. Now we'll look up Terrence
Speaker 3: Steele here in a second.
Speaker 4: But all right, So why were.
Speaker 3: The Cardinals able to run the football so well against
Speaker 3: the Cowboys in this game? I think, as you do
Speaker 3: as well, Mickey, that they took advantage of the aggression
Speaker 3: that dan Quinn's defense plays with.
Speaker 4: Right from the start.
Speaker 3: Second play of the game.
Speaker 4: Second play, josh Dobbs, Michael Parson's tackling James Connor and
Speaker 4: he ain't got the ball and there is nobody over there,
Speaker 4: and I mean nobody's there, and if Bland doesn't run
Speaker 4: him down, it's a touchdown.
Speaker 3: He's going with what the Cowboys had over there. Three,
Speaker 3: the formation, the personnel that the Cowboys had on the field,
Speaker 3: they had on the right side of the defense. Parsons
Speaker 3: was at right defensive end and he immediately rushed the
Speaker 3: passer okay, and Dobbs on the zone Raid took the
Speaker 3: ball out and headed right past him. And so then
Speaker 3: you had Donnava Wilson and jay Ron Curse out on
Speaker 3: the flank, and they had two tight ends blocking both
Speaker 3: of them, and Hole was right there. And right up
Speaker 3: the scene goes down the sideline goes Joshua Dobbs for
Speaker 3: forty four.
Speaker 4: Yards and they ended up double teaming curse over there, right,
Speaker 4: So they're in two tight end, but you're playing your
Speaker 4: nickel big defense, Yeah, would curse.
Speaker 3: And all the tight end Ertz had to do was
Speaker 3: seal the edge basically, right. It wasn't any great block
Speaker 3: that he had to put on curse. The Cowboys were
Speaker 3: so intent on playing forward aggressive defense, which has worked
Speaker 3: for them so much, that all the tight end had
Speaker 3: to do is getting the way and the back or
Speaker 3: the quarterback in this case, is down the sideline.
Speaker 4: And it's Donovan Williams's first game, right, so he takes
Speaker 4: a false step to his left and then and to me,
Speaker 4: that's all you got to do. It's amazing. He's a
Speaker 4: veteran one false step.
Speaker 3: The other linebackers were to the other side of the format,
Speaker 3: Clark and Vanders.
Speaker 2: Last year he was one of the best safeties in
Speaker 2: the league period, right.
Speaker 4: But he hadn't played.
Speaker 3: That's the second player.
Speaker 5: I don't care if you hadn't played, not hear my
Speaker 5: things facts. That's basic football.
Speaker 6: I know.
Speaker 2: That is basic football. He's got the tight end. I
Speaker 2: have leverage. That's basic football. I don't care how long
Speaker 2: you've been out.
Speaker 5: You got junior high, middle school, They know I need
Speaker 5: my outside shoulder free, and man, you can't come in.
Speaker 2: He was so aggressive, you know, mentally he was he
Speaker 2: was too far ahead of himself.
Speaker 3: Well, well, I think what we need to figure out
Speaker 3: who's who's setting the edge over there?
Speaker 4: He was, Now it should have been Parsons, Yes, because because.
Speaker 2: Go out and.
Speaker 4: Parsons is fell for. He fell for the handoff to Connor.
Speaker 5: Wilson was the one that was supposed to have outside leverage.
Speaker 5: That's all I'm telling you on that particular.
Speaker 4: Well, it's a second play since January. Think about it.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I do. And you know, once again, basics of basics,
Speaker 2: and we can.
Speaker 3: Say you don't know what the defense was.
Speaker 5: I'll bet you this dog on microphone here he's supposed
Speaker 5: to be outside. I'm sorry, guys, you know, I don't
Speaker 5: care how long it's been since she played Basics of
Speaker 5: basics and now in regards to being able to make
Speaker 5: the tackle, yes, that's one thing, but just the mentality
Speaker 5: of what I need to be is where I need
Speaker 5: to be.
Speaker 2: I don't care how long it's been.
Speaker 4: Going back to what Bill and I said, their over
Speaker 4: aggressiveness got them. And you know what I asked Donovan,
Speaker 4: I asked DeMarcus Lawrence that afterwards, and he said, you
Speaker 4: can say that that they were way too aggressive and
Speaker 4: didn't everybody It's going like hair on fire after the
Speaker 4: ball and not everybody playing their responsibilities.
Speaker 8: Yeah, he said it was a big wake up call
Speaker 8: for the team for defense with.
Speaker 3: The Cardinals did what we thought the Giants and Jets
Speaker 3: would do Cowboys, which was run the football against them. Okay,
Speaker 3: when you got an attacking defense like the Cowboys have had,
Speaker 3: and especially with the success the Cowboys have had with
Speaker 3: an attacking defense.
Speaker 2: What do you do?
Speaker 3: You run right at them, you know, and neutralize on that.
Speaker 5: Well, well, I look at it like this. The Jets
Speaker 5: and the Giants they ran at their strength. They ran
Speaker 5: to the numbers.
Speaker 2: They thought they could overpower them.
Speaker 5: What the Cardinals did, they went backside, and they had
Speaker 5: numbers to the weak side.
Speaker 3: They also had the overway. They had a quarterback run threat.
Speaker 5: To that's another that's just another player that you attacked backside.
Speaker 5: So I don't care how many, how what position you had,
Speaker 5: if you had a linebacker versus a safety over there,
Speaker 5: it didn't matter. They were out numbered to the weak
Speaker 5: side period. Every time you ran that way, the hole
Speaker 5: was big, not because there was a cornerback over there.
Speaker 5: I don't kill who was over there. They were still
Speaker 5: going to be out manned on that side.
Speaker 3: And the Cardinals could look at what the Giants did
Speaker 3: on the first drive of the game with Daniel Jones
Speaker 3: running the football, and you can see that this defense
Speaker 3: can be susceptible to it if you're gonna pin your
Speaker 3: ears back and go after a sack all the.
Speaker 2: Time, Zack Wilson did the same thing.
Speaker 4: Can mac Jones run the ball?
Speaker 3: Well, yeah, yesterday we go at a quarterback sneak and
Speaker 3: then they were playing it was the corner of Sauce
Speaker 3: Gardener at him got into it big dime after a
Speaker 3: quarterback sneak late in the game yesterday.
Speaker 4: So the second So then go to the next possession
Speaker 4: and the defense actually stood up inside the five yard
Speaker 4: line right and forced the field goal. Then they get
Speaker 4: the twenty. It was a twenty two yard past interference
Speaker 4: on Bland on the deep ball and it was basically.
Speaker 2: Him doing.
Speaker 4: To Brown what was done to Gallop And they didn't
Speaker 4: pick up that flag, by the way, and that got
Speaker 4: them all the way to the twenty three yard line.
Speaker 5: The best thing I can say about this game is
Speaker 5: they actually made some good run adjustments in the second half.
Speaker 4: Yep, and they you know, you think after one hundred
Speaker 4: and eighty two in the.
Speaker 2: First So is it tough to hell?
Speaker 5: I was there, I shouldn't know, but it shouldn't be
Speaker 5: that tough to make that adjustment after the first.
Speaker 4: Quesll As Mike McCarthy said, if you wait to halftime
Speaker 4: to make the adjustments, you're late. You got to make
Speaker 4: them right.
Speaker 2: Away, that's right. And we didn't do it into the second.
Speaker 4: Quarter because then that second possession when they ended up
Speaker 4: scoring the touchdown and then decided to go for two
Speaker 4: after the Cowboys, what did they do jump off sides?
Speaker 4: They jumped off side in the extra point? Is that right?
Speaker 2: That's true?
Speaker 4: Yeah, Osa was off side.
Speaker 2: I mean that's when they did.
Speaker 4: So they decided to go for two and then didn't
Speaker 4: make it and it was nine to nothing. But they
Speaker 4: also had there was also a little dump off to
Speaker 4: Connor for ten yards on third and two to make
Speaker 4: it first in going.
Speaker 5: Well, I think we jumped out sides on the field
Speaker 5: goal as well, didn't we And they tried to We
Speaker 5: had a penalty and they tried to go, oh yeah,
Speaker 5: and then they still kicked, still kicked the field goal.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 3: So let me ask you, ever since the mindset of
Speaker 3: the defense when you lose it coming into a game
Speaker 3: like this, I'm trying to account for. Is there something
Speaker 3: to be said for when you look at the aggressive
Speaker 3: play of the defense, trying to do too much to
Speaker 3: make a big play when you've lost your Pro Bowl
Speaker 3: cornerback Trayvon Diggs and you know your offense is down
Speaker 3: three starters on the offensive line where there it's not
Speaker 3: it's not a question of effort, it's it's an attacking
Speaker 3: frame of mind that they have that they got to
Speaker 3: make a big play. And the success they've had not
Speaker 3: only in two games this year, but two seasons of
Speaker 3: the calling card of this defense is coming up with takeaways.
Speaker 5: And when you look at defenses that are trying to
Speaker 5: have the reputation that the Cowboys are trying to have,
Speaker 5: it's going to be We're going to smother you no
Speaker 5: matter who you are or what you run.
Speaker 2: But the coaches have to make that adjustment.
Speaker 5: You can say we're gonna smother you all you want
Speaker 5: if you keep doing the same thing over and over again.
Speaker 5: Smart coaches are going to figure.
Speaker 3: Out what they've made that adjustment at halftime.
Speaker 5: Yeah, but once again, it's too late. You know, you
Speaker 5: could have you could have made that adjustment after the
Speaker 5: first quarter.
Speaker 2: Even after the first drive.
Speaker 5: You should at least say, Okay, guys, I see what
Speaker 5: they're trying to attack us.
Speaker 2: We saw it, the fan see it. What happened after
Speaker 2: the first drive. Okay, they're going backside.
Speaker 5: They're going to the weekside, overloading by one side, going
Speaker 5: back to the weak side. You could see that after
Speaker 5: the first drive. So where's the adjustment? Then that's what
Speaker 5: I'm looking for.
Speaker 4: So what did you see on Rondell Moore's forty five
Speaker 4: yard forty five yard touchdown the one that made it
Speaker 4: Cowboys had?
Speaker 3: I believe Michaeh. I'm looking at the TV copy, so
Speaker 3: it's hard to see some of the players, but I
Speaker 3: believe Michaeh was not on the field for that one.
Speaker 3: I believe Sam Williams was at right defensive end, and
Speaker 3: I wrote down he got blocked. He Samm Williams.
Speaker 4: He didn't set the edge, he got shoved inside.
Speaker 2: What happened to the linebacker coming over?
Speaker 3: The linebacker?
Speaker 4: He got blocked?
Speaker 2: You had had a tough day you had.
Speaker 3: Here was what they had up front?
Speaker 4: They had three wide and a tight end flanked out. Yes,
Speaker 4: I wrote down and it was.
Speaker 3: It was upfront they had Armstrong, Goldston Gallimore and Sam Williams.
Speaker 4: So they had the second second team line in on
Speaker 4: second and two at the Cowboys forty five.
Speaker 3: Then the same grouping was in on the previous play,
Speaker 3: which was a first down completion to More for eight
Speaker 3: yards forty seven, and the vander Esh and Marquise Bell
Speaker 3: were the linebackers, and vander Esh was to the left
Speaker 3: side of the defense and Bell was to the right side,
Speaker 3: which is where the play came right.
Speaker 4: See on that possession they had him third and eleven
Speaker 4: at the forty two, and that was the one. Not
Speaker 4: only did Parsons get called for off sides, Donovan Lewis
Speaker 4: got called for holding, and so they got five yards
Speaker 4: in a first down to set it up at the
Speaker 4: forty seven.
Speaker 3: Jordan Less, Jordan Less, I said, Donovan Lewis. Oh, okay,
Speaker 3: Jordan Lewis called for holding? Yep, Yeah, who's Donovan Lewis.
Speaker 3: I got a little bit of each right I was
Speaker 3: looking for Wait, wait, I got Jay Lewis there yeah,
Speaker 3: all right. So yeah, and Rondelle Moore, you get him
Speaker 3: in the open field and you're not.
Speaker 4: Catching him, and you know, you got to recognize they
Speaker 4: lined him up as a running back, right was he
Speaker 4: was in the BACKFI.
Speaker 2: Lined We start off big nickel? Right yeah? Why yeah?
Speaker 5: Why? I mean why because we knew what they were
Speaker 5: gonna try. We knew they were gonna travel on the ball.
Speaker 5: Why are we starting off big nickel?
Speaker 2: That's what we do.
Speaker 4: I don't know do we always start off because in
Speaker 4: the Jets they started off with three linebackers and they
Speaker 4: had Micah on the line of scrimmage.
Speaker 3: They started out The reason we started out big, Okay,
Speaker 3: that's the base defense basically for the Cowboys, it's a
Speaker 3: four to two five is a is the base defense.
Speaker 3: That's not And whether you got the big, the big
Speaker 3: Nichol is having a third safety regular Nichol is having
Speaker 3: Jordan Lewis on the field, there's a slot. The difference
Speaker 3: was they had two tight ends on the field. They
Speaker 3: went twelve personnel the first two plays of the game.
Speaker 3: And so that's why Donovan Wilson was on the field
Speaker 3: and not Jordan Lewis in that case.
Speaker 2: But you would think two tight ends. Let's put in
Speaker 2: once again, like a three or third.
Speaker 4: Parsons the linebacker.
Speaker 3: You would have a event Dorance Armstrong playing defensive end. Right,
Speaker 3: the Cowboys have not been doing that for whatever reason.
Speaker 5: That's not but you would think that the approach that
Speaker 5: they had against the Jets, personnel wise, that's what they
Speaker 5: would do against the Cardinals. And I say that because
Speaker 5: we necessarily don't respect Dobbs as a quarterback. We're looking
Speaker 5: at them running the ball with Connor. We knew that's
Speaker 5: what they were going to do with them out they
Speaker 5: come out with two tight ends.
Speaker 2: So okay, they're letting us know we were right. But no,
Speaker 2: we put in big Nickel. Why, I'm sorry, you know,
Speaker 2: I'm sorry.
Speaker 3: The the base defense basically has Michael Parsons as a
Speaker 3: defensive end.
Speaker 12: Not a linebacker. Right, yeah, so we got line you
Speaker 12: don't have enough linebackers. You have because you should. You
Speaker 12: could find the linebackers playing.
Speaker 3: Marquise Bell is your third linebacker, right, basically, either he
Speaker 3: or basically it was not necessary. Thomas had no snaps
Speaker 3: on defense yesterday, right, he was had no snaps on defense.
Speaker 3: Marquis Bell took the place of the marve on overshown.
Speaker 3: Who is going to be your third linebacker?
Speaker 4: Okay, so let me just seems to me when you
Speaker 4: do that, that's to defend a passing quarterback or a
Speaker 4: tight end that you can't come.
Speaker 2: Am I That's what I'm saying.
Speaker 5: This is so you tell me who who lined up?
Speaker 5: Who did they have against the Jets linebacker wise?
Speaker 2: Well, who they have?
Speaker 4: Well, I'm sure it ended up being either Curse or
Speaker 4: wan Yer Thomas because they because that was Darren Waller, right, No,
Speaker 4: was that the Giants Giant Giants, and they used Wanier
Speaker 4: Thomas to take on Waller in the first game. But
Speaker 4: I can't tell you who.
Speaker 3: And I do remember that first play the game, first
Speaker 3: play of the game against the Jets, when DeMarcus Law
Speaker 3: had Lawrence had a four yard tackles they were running
Speaker 3: on that particular play they had and I don't have
Speaker 3: it written down here. I'm going off memory here. They
Speaker 3: had d Law as a stand up linebacker on the
Speaker 3: left side. They had Chauncey Goldston at left defensive end,
Speaker 3: Jonathan Hankins in the middle, and Osa at right defensive
Speaker 3: end is like a five technique, and Micah was a
Speaker 3: stand up linebacker on the right side, and he had
Speaker 3: de Mont Clark and Leyton vander Esh at linebacker. We
Speaker 3: talked about it last week. It was your traditional Bill
Speaker 3: Parcells three four defensive look.
Speaker 8: Talk about that.
Speaker 5: Why not that?
Speaker 3: That's my and that's specifically why last night, late after
Speaker 3: I got off work, I went home to find to
Speaker 3: figure out what were they did they run that to
Speaker 3: start the game and they did.
Speaker 2: Not and so but but Phoenix, sorry, Arizona came out
Speaker 2: with twelve personnel.
Speaker 5: Okay, that was like, Okay, they're letting you know, this
Speaker 5: is what we need to do. We need to repeat
Speaker 5: what we did against the Jets.
Speaker 4: Zach Ertz has a nice name, but he ain't the
Speaker 4: Ertz from before.
Speaker 9: You.
Speaker 4: I don't think you had to worry about the tight
Speaker 4: end beating you right.
Speaker 2: Yes, yes, I understand.
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Speaker 8: I know we had a lot of negatives, but I
Speaker 8: was looking at one of the positives.
Speaker 4: All right, let's have it.
Speaker 8: Brandon Aubrey was three for three last night. Yes he will, Well,
Speaker 8: good news there. I mean he honestly it was his
Speaker 8: first you know, he's the first rookie kicker to make
Speaker 8: ten career field goals ten for ten that.
Speaker 4: Start the season.
Speaker 2: Yeah, for the Cowboys.
Speaker 8: So that's good news.
Speaker 3: Yeah, that's very good news.
Speaker 4: All right, good news, optimist. What are we going to
Speaker 4: do for the next thirteen.
Speaker 3: I like Hunter Lipke, you know what?
Speaker 4: Yeah, how about giving him the ball and the goal line?
Speaker 3: Now, you know we were asked that question last week.
Speaker 3: I just kind of dismissed it that, Oh, I amn't
Speaker 3: saying that whatever. I'm as soon as I saw him
Speaker 3: carry the ball.
Speaker 2: The game, I said, I'm good with that. He was
Speaker 2: leaning forward to and he's got.
Speaker 3: A lot of experience carrying the football.
Speaker 4: His one run, it was was it third and two
Speaker 4: or he went for eight yards?
Speaker 3: I don't know who it was. At first said that
Speaker 3: I think this guy ought to make the team.
Speaker 4: Man, that guy. Okay, there's your positive. You know what,
Speaker 4: when he's in there, he blocks well ye know.
Speaker 3: I mean you can see uh. And sometimes they set
Speaker 3: him up sort of in a tight end, roll on
Speaker 3: the wing and then he and I can see his versatility. Now,
Speaker 3: he doesn't have the length that you want to see
Speaker 3: in a tight end necessarily, but his versatility offsets that
Speaker 3: where you can they Sean McEwan rolled from last year,
Speaker 3: Lipke gives you more there.
Speaker 8: So question Darryl and Corpus Christy wants to know why
Speaker 8: no Turpin? Why Noduce last night?
Speaker 4: That's a good question.
Speaker 2: I thought of it.
Speaker 3: Deuce played no snaps on offense, one snap on special team.
Speaker 4: And Turpin only got a couple. I think I put
Speaker 4: it in here. Let's look, so why Mickey, I'm thinking
Speaker 4: they were just scared of that offensive line to do
Speaker 4: anything because at one point anything gadgety, Yeah, I said.
Speaker 4: At one point, I said they were getting close inside
Speaker 4: the twenty and I basically said out loud to Nick Harris,
Speaker 4: I said, they need a gadget play right now. And
Speaker 4: they tried the end around two CD.
Speaker 3: And it didn't work.
Speaker 5: But gadget players don't work when you have inexperienced offensive linemen,
Speaker 5: right because they're the ones that always screw up the
Speaker 5: blocking and because first of all, they're having a hard
Speaker 5: enough time just going ABC blocking. Now all of a
Speaker 5: sudden you're throwing some tricky stuff and it always leads
Speaker 5: to a disaster. I don't think I would have played
Speaker 5: them as much either, because the pace of the game
Speaker 5: wasn't in our favor. You play guys like Deuce and
Speaker 5: Turpin when you've got the game under control offensively, we
Speaker 5: will know where closer to that, We will know where
Speaker 5: close to that.
Speaker 4: Yeah, I think that's what happened. I think they had
Speaker 4: to when they saw on set, probably on the plane
Speaker 4: flight to Arizona, they're changing their offensive game when they
Speaker 4: knew those two guys weren't.
Speaker 2: Going because that's how we got in trouble last year.
Speaker 2: We tried trick stuff.
Speaker 5: He misses this all of a sudden, like oh crap,
Speaker 5: he's right in my face, and then we got a
Speaker 5: fumble or turnover, an interception or something, which is.
Speaker 3: Why there was more ephasis on running the football right
Speaker 3: because they.
Speaker 2: Just keep them going forward, keep them going.
Speaker 3: So ray o'dowdell was another positive from yesterday.
Speaker 5: The only thing I saw yesterday I was disappointed in
Speaker 5: Dak in regards to he's very passive on the on
Speaker 5: the RPO.
Speaker 2: It was a couple of times he's given the ball
Speaker 2: to Pilot. They all went with Pollot.
Speaker 4: He was I'm sorry, he actually said, he actually said
Speaker 4: after the game about the red zone or gold to
Speaker 4: gold albums. He goes, he said, I got to be better,
Speaker 4: and I probably need to use my feet.
Speaker 2: He's got to Two times it was wide open.
Speaker 5: If not for a touchdown, it could have been for
Speaker 5: a first down, right, and you put yourself in position
Speaker 5: now because you gave part of the ball. They were
Speaker 5: on it and it was a two to three yeard loss.
Speaker 5: So at least mitigate some of the losses by just
Speaker 5: using your feet a little bit. It may not be
Speaker 5: a touchdown, but you won't be sitting at third and
Speaker 5: six as opposed to you know, thirty and one.
Speaker 3: You know, even on the past to gallop in the
Speaker 3: end zone, he was a little slow, and he admitted
Speaker 3: afterwards he needed get it right.
Speaker 2: Yeah, and he was so wide open. What was yeah?
Speaker 3: And it was what was so interesting too, was after that, Okay,
Speaker 3: there were five about five twenty left in the game
Speaker 3: at that point when they picked up the flag and
Speaker 3: then five straight rushing place right, and then the last
Speaker 3: play of the interception, and so over two minutes of
Speaker 3: the clock comes off during those five rushing plays.
Speaker 2: And I'm sure a couple of those were r pos. Well,
Speaker 2: he probably could have kept the ball and done better
Speaker 2: with it.
Speaker 4: So did you have a problem with him going for
Speaker 4: it on fourth down and they got stopped instead of kick?
Speaker 3: Yeah, that they needed to kick the field goal there
Speaker 3: in my opinion, See, I thought, because it's just the
Speaker 3: the math on Okay, now you were you're down eight,
Speaker 3: you get it down to five, right, and then and
Speaker 3: with the time left, you know, and I know the
Speaker 3: coach is looking at it that okay, how many more
Speaker 3: possessions are we and a half and that sort of thing.
Speaker 2: And at that time they had made some defensive adjustments.
Speaker 3: It turned out they had enough time. Or if they
Speaker 3: had kicked the field goal. I mean, let's say, now
Speaker 3: the game wouldn't play out, maybe the same way because
Speaker 3: the field position is different, whatever, But let's say from
Speaker 3: a timing standpoint, they can't they if they had kicked
Speaker 3: the field goal and they'd gotten the ball back in
Speaker 3: the same timely fashion, they got down and they kicked
Speaker 3: another field goal. Now you're down two points rather than
Speaker 3: five points. At twenty one sixty you had been twenty
Speaker 3: one to nineteen, and now a field goal wins the
Speaker 3: game when you get the ball back.
Speaker 4: The next time was that at the end of the
Speaker 4: if you have.
Speaker 5: If you have your starters in, if you have your
Speaker 5: starters in, that's a good idea. So good, that's a
Speaker 5: good shock, I think. But you're gonna have your starters
Speaker 5: in on the old line.
Speaker 4: This is this is what happens.
Speaker 3: That's why I didn't I didn't have a confidence in
Speaker 3: scoring touchdowns.
Speaker 4: He Uh, he had in his mind. I think when
Speaker 4: it was third and goal at the three that this
Speaker 4: is two down, two more downs. I'm going four downs here.
Speaker 4: And then they got the hold on a doga.
Speaker 2: And so it it bended up.
Speaker 4: Going third and goal at the thirteen and then they
Speaker 4: they got nine yards, so they were almost back to
Speaker 4: the same situation because on third and goal at the three.
Speaker 4: Uh did he throw the ball on that one?
Speaker 2: See?
Speaker 4: Oh, that was the one he dropped the snap. Remember
Speaker 4: he dropped the snap and then they row that plate and.
Speaker 3: See that was that was with three minutes left in
Speaker 3: the third quarter.
Speaker 2: It was early fourth and four, fourth and four.
Speaker 3: The incompleation was with two fifty seven left in the
Speaker 3: third quarter.
Speaker 4: But in his mind he heard me saying, the more
Speaker 4: field goals you kicked, the closer.
Speaker 2: Your who says that all the time gets on my
Speaker 2: fucking there.
Speaker 4: Me And it's right too.
Speaker 2: By the way.
Speaker 3: Now, now, there was a game last night apparently where
Speaker 3: you or yesterday afternoon. I guess it was the Chargers.
Speaker 3: It No, it wasn't the Chargers. It was the Raiders
Speaker 3: and Josh McDaniel had a fourth down. They were down eight,
Speaker 3: and he decided late in the game and he decided
Speaker 3: to kick a field goal to get within five rather
Speaker 3: than going forward on fourth and that.
Speaker 4: They started, yeah winning right, No, they lost.
Speaker 3: They kicked the field goal, got five, and I did
Speaker 3: not see it myself. I'm hearing people on the radio
Speaker 3: talk about it today and he's getting roundly criticized, and
Speaker 3: it sounds like rightly so for uh not being more aggressive, Yeah,
Speaker 3: for kicking the field goal, just from a math standpoint, right,
Speaker 3: you know. And what he said after the game was, well, regardless,
Speaker 3: we had to get We're going to have to get
Speaker 3: the ball again. No, regardless, if you if you score
Speaker 3: a touchdown, get a two point conversion, you've tied the game.
Speaker 3: And even if you don't get the ball again, if
Speaker 3: you hold the team from scoring, you're going to overtime.
Speaker 3: You don't have to, you know how.
Speaker 2: You have some teams they want to just get they
Speaker 2: think they need two scores. Yeah, they said, let's just.
Speaker 3: Get the thinking about winning the game rather than yeah,
Speaker 3: forcing overtime.
Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, anyway, Cowboys would have loved overtime. And I
Speaker 4: can't remember. I think Dak said it. Dak, Dak said it.
Speaker 4: He said if we had if we was it him
Speaker 4: or McCarthy, one of the two said it, if we
Speaker 4: had scored touchdowns instead of kicking field goals, we'd still
Speaker 4: be playing right now, Meaning you gotta score touchdowns. And
Speaker 4: I know the offensive line, I get it, But you.
Speaker 3: Were so close, so you were good with him going
Speaker 3: for on fourth.
Speaker 4: I just thought he was going to do it. I
Speaker 4: thought he was going to do it on Would you
Speaker 4: have done it? Yes, okay, yes, I'm tired of score philosophy.
Speaker 3: You can't kick field.
Speaker 5: Well, he said it's going to be week five, so
Speaker 5: then he say week five to well, we have our
Speaker 5: red zone together, they into that on TV. You it
Speaker 5: won't be until we five to where red zone is
Speaker 5: gonna be where it needs to be.
Speaker 4: You get beat twenty eight nineteen, big deal twin Oh
Speaker 4: yeah if you kicked that field goal because they gave
Speaker 4: up a sixty nine yard pass after they were down
Speaker 4: by five points.
Speaker 3: Yeah, all right, that does it for this.
Speaker 2: Awful edition.
Speaker 4: No, it was a very good addition.
Speaker 3: Awful accomplished. Like we accomplished.
Speaker 4: We got the reason why they lost.
Speaker 2: We got it off. We got it off. I got
Speaker 2: off my chest, all right.
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