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Speaker 1: dievia doll herself, Megan or m Threegan as she is

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Speaker 1: maybe that should be a hat Honestly, maybe this month

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Speaker 1: that is literally a doll at Megan and Threegan. We

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Speaker 1: have both seen the new film and a lot of

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Speaker 1: y'all wanted us to talk about it, so we will

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Speaker 1: be talking about it today and other, you know, sort

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Speaker 1: of dumb horror movies that we love to watch. Because

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Speaker 1: this is like a virgin the show we'll give yes

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Speaker 1: based pop culture. Today's takes. I'm Rosdamino and I'm Fran Toronto.

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Speaker 1: Hi Fran. We are doing something that we almost never do,

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Speaker 1: which is recording our news segment in person, and something

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Speaker 1: else that we also never do, which is talk about

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Speaker 1: drag race. That's not true. We did talk about drag race, right,

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Speaker 1: but we we only talk about main season drag race,

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Speaker 1: which is to me kind of the only drag race

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Speaker 1: because we don't want to be, as we've said before,

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Speaker 1: our g ms to warn us not to do and

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Speaker 1: we were like, we are not becoming a drag Race podcast.

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Speaker 1: But obviously we both have watched the premiere of season fifteen,

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Speaker 1: so we want to give our upfront thoughts about the premiere,

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Speaker 1: about the queens, and then throughout the season, when we

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Speaker 1: feel moved, maybe we'll check in about it, but we

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Speaker 1: will not be doing weekly recaps or roocaps, and not

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Speaker 1: to tute our on Horn. It's like you hand get

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Speaker 1: like drag Race recaps anywhere, right, like all your other

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Speaker 1: culture podcast person about it. However, they're all like you know,

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Speaker 1: sis fag opinions, and so our opinion on this is

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Speaker 1: you know, nuanced, and there's I don't believe it. That's

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Speaker 1: when it comes to I uh am dying When I

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Speaker 1: saw when I when I saw that you you were

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Speaker 1: watching this season when you decided to you know, join in,

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Speaker 1: I was shook what I knew I was gonna. I

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Speaker 1: always watched the main season well because literally, like I

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Speaker 1: invited you to a drag Race screening on Thursday, and

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Speaker 1: you said, I do not want to be in a

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Speaker 1: room with people watching drag racers. But that's the difference.

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Speaker 1: I want to watch it at home alone. I don't

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Speaker 1: want to be in community with gay people watching. It.

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Speaker 1: Wasn't all um, it was not all men, luckily, um.

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Speaker 1: But I also have to I didn't understand that. I

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Speaker 1: don't want to be around a bunch of watching I

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Speaker 1: understand it's not fun for me. I bought the season

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Speaker 1: pass on iTunes. I will be watching it every Saturday

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Speaker 1: or Sunday. Is it too redundant of a question for

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Speaker 1: me to ask? Like? What? What? Why you don't want

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Speaker 1: to be in a space watching it versus like watching?

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Speaker 1: Like why do you want to watch it at home?

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Speaker 1: And what do you not like about? And I'm not

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Speaker 1: making this about me. I'm saying, like you would never

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Speaker 1: But it's you know, it's overwhelming. It's like, yes, it's

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Speaker 1: And I loved the event and loved being there, but rose.

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Speaker 1: The after party for the Drag Race premiere was in

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Speaker 1: Those are seasoned queens. That's like, you know, really like

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Speaker 1: I mean they came in. I was like, who are

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Speaker 1: I think that will be a very interesting um narrative

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Speaker 1: is two dollars. And as we should always be reminding everyone,

428
00:23:15,640 --> 00:23:18,320
Speaker 1: when a new season of Drag Race comes around, support

429
00:23:18,359 --> 00:23:21,240
Speaker 1: your local queens in whatever way it is possible for

430
00:23:21,280 --> 00:23:23,639
Speaker 1: you to do so, whether that's going out to a

431
00:23:23,680 --> 00:23:27,600
Speaker 1: bar and tipping them, whether that's you know, tipping them

432
00:23:27,640 --> 00:23:32,159
Speaker 1: on Venmo or buying their merch or buying tickets to

433
00:23:32,200 --> 00:23:35,720
Speaker 1: their fucking drag Queen story hour. Also, sometimes people are

434
00:23:35,720 --> 00:23:37,439
Speaker 1: in the back of the crowd and they're holding up

435
00:23:37,440 --> 00:23:39,399
Speaker 1: the dollar and they're like, oh, if they're not going

436
00:23:39,440 --> 00:23:41,080
Speaker 1: to come get the dollar, then I'm not gonna It's

437
00:23:41,080 --> 00:23:44,399
Speaker 1: like no, crumple it up and throw it onto the stage,

438
00:23:44,480 --> 00:23:48,640
Speaker 1: like give them money. There are ways to give drag

439
00:23:48,720 --> 00:23:52,520
Speaker 1: queens money, and you should be doing that in ways

440
00:23:52,560 --> 00:23:59,240
Speaker 1: that aren't just giving repall money, pitiod. So I guess

441
00:23:59,520 --> 00:24:02,639
Speaker 1: we can lows the drag Race Library for now and

442
00:24:02,680 --> 00:24:07,679
Speaker 1: then maybe open up the Rose Oh yes, I wanted to.

443
00:24:07,760 --> 00:24:10,879
Speaker 1: We're in Rose's book corner right now, hear of it.

444
00:24:10,920 --> 00:24:12,240
Speaker 1: I feel like we should come up with like a

445
00:24:12,240 --> 00:24:17,320
Speaker 1: little like music musical, let's have a little a jingle. Um.

446
00:24:17,400 --> 00:24:22,080
Speaker 1: So I did mention this on our Instagram yesterday at

447
00:24:22,119 --> 00:24:25,359
Speaker 1: like a virgine. If you're not following it, you should be.

448
00:24:25,840 --> 00:24:30,280
Speaker 1: But I just started a new book and if you

449
00:24:30,359 --> 00:24:33,520
Speaker 1: all would like to read along. I'm not sure how

450
00:24:33,640 --> 00:24:36,760
Speaker 1: this Rose's Book Corner thing is going to work exactly,

451
00:24:36,800 --> 00:24:39,200
Speaker 1: but I think for now what we'll do is um

452
00:24:39,280 --> 00:24:42,719
Speaker 1: I picked I. I bought this book actually when we

453
00:24:42,720 --> 00:24:47,720
Speaker 1: were in San Francisco from from Fabuloso Um. It's called

454
00:24:47,760 --> 00:24:50,720
Speaker 1: man Hunt. It's by Gretcher Felker Martin. It's a sort

455
00:24:50,760 --> 00:24:57,720
Speaker 1: of post apocalyptic trans horror novel um about a sort

456
00:24:57,760 --> 00:25:00,399
Speaker 1: of zombie plague that has taken over the world, but

457
00:25:00,480 --> 00:25:04,480
Speaker 1: it only affects people with an excess of testosterone, so

458
00:25:04,520 --> 00:25:09,280
Speaker 1: like the only survivors are trans women and six women

459
00:25:10,080 --> 00:25:12,640
Speaker 1: and there's like a roving band of turfs hunting down

460
00:25:12,640 --> 00:25:16,200
Speaker 1: trans women. I just started it yesterday. It's really good

461
00:25:16,200 --> 00:25:20,240
Speaker 1: so far. So if you want to read along, um,

462
00:25:20,240 --> 00:25:23,119
Speaker 1: pick up the book, get it at the library or

463
00:25:23,240 --> 00:25:27,040
Speaker 1: like audiobook whatever, and in a few weeks I will

464
00:25:27,240 --> 00:25:30,639
Speaker 1: once I finished it, Um, I'll talk about the book

465
00:25:30,880 --> 00:25:34,040
Speaker 1: on the show. And that's just how we'll start the

466
00:25:34,119 --> 00:25:37,360
Speaker 1: year off with Rose's bookcorn. Yeah, and for the virgins.

467
00:25:37,400 --> 00:25:39,600
Speaker 1: You know, we're still figuring out the cadence of this thing,

468
00:25:39,640 --> 00:25:41,000
Speaker 1: So tell us, like what you want to do in

469
00:25:41,080 --> 00:25:43,040
Speaker 1: Rose's book Corner, and like what you want my part

470
00:25:43,040 --> 00:25:45,439
Speaker 1: to be in it? Because I famously cannot read at

471
00:25:45,480 --> 00:25:48,000
Speaker 1: the pace that Rose can, Like I can, I mean,

472
00:25:48,080 --> 00:25:49,639
Speaker 1: reading even a book a month and be hard for me,

473
00:25:49,720 --> 00:25:51,919
Speaker 1: but I will. You know, this book looks like an

474
00:25:51,960 --> 00:25:54,119
Speaker 1: easy read, and maybe I could try to read it

475
00:25:54,240 --> 00:25:57,280
Speaker 1: or also just read a great plot summary and contribute

476
00:25:57,320 --> 00:26:00,320
Speaker 1: that way. Very gross, Oh, I like I think I

477
00:26:00,320 --> 00:26:03,359
Speaker 1: can get into that, I can get into that. I'm

478
00:26:03,680 --> 00:26:07,720
Speaker 1: really excited myself am very gross. Okay, great, UM, and

479
00:26:07,920 --> 00:26:10,400
Speaker 1: uh is there anything else you're excited about and kind

480
00:26:10,400 --> 00:26:15,320
Speaker 1: of like gross genre stuff? Yeah. I actually this morning

481
00:26:15,400 --> 00:26:21,440
Speaker 1: watched the series premiere of Mayfair Witches on AMC plus

482
00:26:21,560 --> 00:26:26,040
Speaker 1: UM So. It is a new show that exists in

483
00:26:26,119 --> 00:26:31,440
Speaker 1: the same television universe as Interview with the Vampire. So

484
00:26:31,600 --> 00:26:36,840
Speaker 1: and Rice's two most famous book series are The Vampire Chronicles,

485
00:26:36,880 --> 00:26:39,320
Speaker 1: which Interview with the Vampire was the first of, and

486
00:26:39,359 --> 00:26:42,240
Speaker 1: then The Lives of the Mayfair Witches, which I've actually

487
00:26:42,240 --> 00:26:47,000
Speaker 1: never read. And so when and Rice before she died,

488
00:26:47,359 --> 00:26:52,720
Speaker 1: she and her son we're shopping this kind of package

489
00:26:52,840 --> 00:26:58,600
Speaker 1: for adaptation because they wanted to create a shared cinematic

490
00:26:58,720 --> 00:27:02,280
Speaker 1: universe so that these stories, because they are interconnected in

491
00:27:02,320 --> 00:27:06,400
Speaker 1: the writing, UM, could be told on screen in an

492
00:27:06,440 --> 00:27:10,360
Speaker 1: interconnected way. So Interview the Vampire came out last year.

493
00:27:10,520 --> 00:27:12,359
Speaker 1: It was, as we've talked about, it was one of

494
00:27:12,400 --> 00:27:17,399
Speaker 1: my favorite shows of possibly my favorite show two and

495
00:27:17,560 --> 00:27:22,879
Speaker 1: so this new series UM just started airing yesterday. It

496
00:27:23,080 --> 00:27:27,400
Speaker 1: is also set in New Orleans. It's about a neurosurgeon

497
00:27:27,560 --> 00:27:31,400
Speaker 1: who discovered who is adopted and discovers. She's part of

498
00:27:31,520 --> 00:27:36,600
Speaker 1: a long lineage of witches. Um It stars Alexandra Jadario

499
00:27:36,880 --> 00:27:39,960
Speaker 1: from the first season of White Lotus. She was the

500
00:27:40,040 --> 00:27:44,040
Speaker 1: young wife who was married to the like dick guy. Oh,

501
00:27:44,080 --> 00:27:46,480
Speaker 1: I literally forgot her performance. I'm not gonna lie, but

502
00:27:46,600 --> 00:27:49,040
Speaker 1: she's her whole thing is like she has really big

503
00:27:49,160 --> 00:27:53,720
Speaker 1: blue eyes. That's like her main. Tim Burton is about

504
00:27:53,760 --> 00:27:58,119
Speaker 1: to make a sequel about her. I'm sure. Also, Harry

505
00:27:58,160 --> 00:28:03,240
Speaker 1: Hamlin's in the show what wait are you fucking? Yeah,

506
00:28:03,280 --> 00:28:06,400
Speaker 1: Harry Hamlet. I would watch just for Harry is gonna

507
00:28:06,520 --> 00:28:08,480
Speaker 1: now that Lisa is not on a real houseves of

508
00:28:08,560 --> 00:28:11,600
Speaker 1: Beverly Hill, She's going to make a guest me. She

509
00:28:11,640 --> 00:28:15,480
Speaker 1: would be a great vampire. She um she really she

510
00:28:15,560 --> 00:28:18,919
Speaker 1: might be a vampire in real life. Did AMC like

511
00:28:19,000 --> 00:28:22,360
Speaker 1: buy a bunch of ann rice I P or something? Yeah,

512
00:28:22,440 --> 00:28:26,320
Speaker 1: that's as I was saying. They bought this shared universe.

513
00:28:26,359 --> 00:28:29,800
Speaker 1: They that's the whole thing that well, they bought these

514
00:28:29,880 --> 00:28:33,960
Speaker 1: two book properties um and and have created this thing

515
00:28:34,240 --> 00:28:38,040
Speaker 1: that they called the Immortal Universe. And so Interview with

516
00:28:38,080 --> 00:28:43,800
Speaker 1: the Vampire has been um was was renewed first second

517
00:28:43,840 --> 00:28:46,240
Speaker 1: season before the first season even came out, so that's

518
00:28:46,280 --> 00:28:54,760
Speaker 1: coming back probably not um and I think Mayfair Witches

519
00:28:55,160 --> 00:28:58,880
Speaker 1: will be probably. I know that they're adapting the first

520
00:28:58,960 --> 00:29:01,240
Speaker 1: book for the first see in and so we'll see

521
00:29:01,240 --> 00:29:03,800
Speaker 1: if this gets renewed, and it'll be interesting to watch

522
00:29:03,920 --> 00:29:07,400
Speaker 1: if maybe some characters we recognize from Interview with the

523
00:29:07,480 --> 00:29:12,120
Speaker 1: Vampire make appearances. Uh. There there was like a brief

524
00:29:12,160 --> 00:29:15,280
Speaker 1: mention of the Mayfair which is on one of the

525
00:29:15,320 --> 00:29:17,920
Speaker 1: early episodes of Interview the Vampire. I like to the

526
00:29:17,920 --> 00:29:20,520
Speaker 1: first episode. It was interesting, was very much setting up

527
00:29:20,960 --> 00:29:24,960
Speaker 1: all the different characters. There's a sort of like demon guy.

528
00:29:25,200 --> 00:29:29,360
Speaker 1: There's some like weird incest e stuff. Maybe I don't know.

529
00:29:29,440 --> 00:29:34,680
Speaker 1: I'm intrigued, uh, and will definitely be watching. All right,

530
00:29:53,920 --> 00:29:57,040
Speaker 1: so let's get this out of the way. If there's

531
00:29:57,080 --> 00:29:59,240
Speaker 1: a fight that needs to happen. What did you think

532
00:29:59,240 --> 00:30:02,440
Speaker 1: of Mega there is no fight. I loved it. I mean,

533
00:30:02,880 --> 00:30:04,920
Speaker 1: oh thank god, I don't think god it was so

534
00:30:05,000 --> 00:30:09,360
Speaker 1: worried really Okay, Look, I know I notoriously have like

535
00:30:09,480 --> 00:30:12,880
Speaker 1: feedback for like everything, but that's like, you know, not

536
00:30:13,040 --> 00:30:16,080
Speaker 1: always true. Like I feel like sometimes when when a

537
00:30:16,120 --> 00:30:19,160
Speaker 1: movie just delivers what it promises, like I don't have

538
00:30:19,240 --> 00:30:23,000
Speaker 1: other expectations like this is a movie about an animatronic

539
00:30:23,120 --> 00:30:26,600
Speaker 1: haunted AI doll, Like I'm not I'm not going to

540
00:30:26,720 --> 00:30:28,720
Speaker 1: come out of it trying to give it some sort

541
00:30:28,760 --> 00:30:33,720
Speaker 1: of like fucking like fu call like Michelle Fuco, kind

542
00:30:33,720 --> 00:30:37,520
Speaker 1: of like, you know, girl, you probably still will. But

543
00:30:37,680 --> 00:30:42,200
Speaker 1: it's not not even you always are trying to find

544
00:30:42,240 --> 00:30:44,640
Speaker 1: some nuanced take. It is just that we often have

545
00:30:44,840 --> 00:30:48,880
Speaker 1: the exact opposite opinion on things. Well, and just when

546
00:30:48,920 --> 00:30:51,840
Speaker 1: I left the movie theater being like I loved it,

547
00:30:51,880 --> 00:30:53,959
Speaker 1: I was like, oh no, did Fran hate it? I

548
00:30:54,040 --> 00:30:56,400
Speaker 1: know right, No, I loved it. I loved it. It

549
00:30:56,480 --> 00:31:00,280
Speaker 1: really delivered exactly what it promised, and it not to

550
00:31:00,480 --> 00:31:04,800
Speaker 1: stop entertainment, and it was also scary totally. When Ryan

551
00:31:04,840 --> 00:31:07,520
Speaker 1: and I my my friend Ryan and I left the movies,

552
00:31:07,680 --> 00:31:10,480
Speaker 1: he said, oh, I kind of thought the trailer was

553
00:31:10,520 --> 00:31:12,520
Speaker 1: better than the movie. And I said, no, but like

554
00:31:13,000 --> 00:31:17,120
Speaker 1: it was exactly what the trailer promised and nothing more.

555
00:31:17,320 --> 00:31:20,960
Speaker 1: And I loved that. You know, I actually do. Um,

556
00:31:21,000 --> 00:31:22,880
Speaker 1: I think all trailers are better than movies in a

557
00:31:22,880 --> 00:31:26,800
Speaker 1: lot of ways. Um, But I think to the effect

558
00:31:26,800 --> 00:31:29,280
Speaker 1: to what Ryan said, like I did walk out and

559
00:31:29,320 --> 00:31:33,480
Speaker 1: I thought to myself. The trailer did spoil almost all

560
00:31:33,520 --> 00:31:36,040
Speaker 1: of the best parts, but I also felt like if

561
00:31:36,120 --> 00:31:39,960
Speaker 1: the trailer hadn't shown Megan doing that dance, like we

562
00:31:40,000 --> 00:31:43,360
Speaker 1: wouldn't the internet when she would have, the Internet never

563
00:31:43,400 --> 00:31:45,320
Speaker 1: would have freaked out. So I can't really fault them

564
00:31:45,360 --> 00:31:47,680
Speaker 1: for that. I think that you know, um and it's

565
00:31:47,720 --> 00:31:51,360
Speaker 1: so funny, like I, okay, just on like just we're

566
00:31:51,400 --> 00:31:54,240
Speaker 1: talking about like the negative feedback loop and like how

567
00:31:54,280 --> 00:31:56,320
Speaker 1: we respond to things. I think Megan is actually a

568
00:31:56,320 --> 00:31:59,280
Speaker 1: great example of like why I always try to find

569
00:31:59,320 --> 00:32:02,040
Speaker 1: something to say. And it's like when we're talking about

570
00:32:02,040 --> 00:32:06,920
Speaker 1: something like that has just really been overextended in the

571
00:32:06,960 --> 00:32:10,440
Speaker 1: game meme universe, Like it's like Megan's really getting some

572
00:32:10,520 --> 00:32:15,640
Speaker 1: mileage on the faggot accounts. Okay, like when we when

573
00:32:15,680 --> 00:32:18,680
Speaker 1: we decided to do a podcast episode about it um

574
00:32:18,800 --> 00:32:22,400
Speaker 1: or anything that's in this kind of like category of culture.

575
00:32:23,080 --> 00:32:25,840
Speaker 1: I I, you and I both really want to like

576
00:32:25,920 --> 00:32:28,719
Speaker 1: add something new to the conversation, right, Like we're not

577
00:32:28,800 --> 00:32:30,160
Speaker 1: just we don't want to like get on here and

578
00:32:30,200 --> 00:32:35,600
Speaker 1: be like Megan slim mother, Oh my god mother, No

579
00:32:35,720 --> 00:32:39,120
Speaker 1: no no, no, it's not it's not virgins, it's not

580
00:32:39,160 --> 00:32:42,080
Speaker 1: but like the thing is, you know, that's usually why

581
00:32:42,080 --> 00:32:45,080
Speaker 1: I have this little tick, but just wanted to contextualize

582
00:32:45,080 --> 00:32:48,720
Speaker 1: that because Megan was genuinely good and I honestly I

583
00:32:48,760 --> 00:32:50,640
Speaker 1: want to know your like raw reactions. But one of

584
00:32:50,680 --> 00:32:55,040
Speaker 1: the first things that I responded to was the like

585
00:32:55,080 --> 00:32:57,920
Speaker 1: eleven year old girl that played the Megan doll and

586
00:32:58,080 --> 00:33:01,800
Speaker 1: like so many practical call effects in like the kind

587
00:33:01,840 --> 00:33:06,120
Speaker 1: of animatronics of Megan, Like it was so real and

588
00:33:06,160 --> 00:33:09,440
Speaker 1: I'm so glad that they didn't like use majority c

589
00:33:09,520 --> 00:33:11,240
Speaker 1: G I you know what I mean, Yes, it was.

590
00:33:11,360 --> 00:33:14,880
Speaker 1: It was a very um in a way simple movie,

591
00:33:15,000 --> 00:33:20,480
Speaker 1: a simple story about you know, humanity's own hubris um

592
00:33:20,520 --> 00:33:22,920
Speaker 1: coming to bite us in the ass or Alice and

593
00:33:22,960 --> 00:33:27,000
Speaker 1: Williams own hubris as a NEPO baby. I love that

594
00:33:27,040 --> 00:33:32,960
Speaker 1: Alison Williams just plays different versions of Marnie from Girls,

595
00:33:33,040 --> 00:33:35,320
Speaker 1: and in this movie she was Marnie if Marnie was

596
00:33:35,320 --> 00:33:39,960
Speaker 1: a scientist, which would never happen. But honestly, like it is, like,

597
00:33:40,280 --> 00:33:43,280
Speaker 1: she is genuinely great at it. And there are tons

598
00:33:43,400 --> 00:33:47,320
Speaker 1: of actresses across the board that do the same character

599
00:33:47,760 --> 00:33:50,960
Speaker 1: in different scenarios, and this is her character and she's

600
00:33:51,120 --> 00:33:55,160
Speaker 1: good at this. I loved the moment. Like, okay, well first,

601
00:33:55,200 --> 00:33:57,200
Speaker 1: before we get into it, I just want to, like

602
00:33:57,640 --> 00:34:00,200
Speaker 1: anyone listening, we are going to spoil this movie. Yes,

603
00:34:00,240 --> 00:34:03,400
Speaker 1: we're going to talk in depth about it, so spoilers, spoilers,

604
00:34:03,800 --> 00:34:06,200
Speaker 1: and then just like a quick synopsis if you haven't

605
00:34:06,200 --> 00:34:10,200
Speaker 1: seen it and don't care about spoilers. Megan is a

606
00:34:10,320 --> 00:34:16,000
Speaker 1: story about UM, a genius toy UM inventor played by

607
00:34:16,080 --> 00:34:20,560
Speaker 1: Alison Williams, whose UM sister and her husband die, leaving

608
00:34:20,600 --> 00:34:25,239
Speaker 1: her as the caregiver for their young daughter, who she

609
00:34:25,360 --> 00:34:27,480
Speaker 1: like doesn't really know how to relate to, so she

610
00:34:28,120 --> 00:34:32,680
Speaker 1: instead gives her with this experimental like AI robot doll

611
00:34:33,160 --> 00:34:38,320
Speaker 1: to be her new friend, and the doll is evil UM.

612
00:34:38,360 --> 00:34:41,720
Speaker 1: That is the basis of truly no no embellishments needed,

613
00:34:42,480 --> 00:34:45,200
Speaker 1: but like I loved just like the Alison Williams is

614
00:34:45,239 --> 00:34:49,040
Speaker 1: ums of UM, Like when she brought her home and uh,

615
00:34:49,200 --> 00:34:53,080
Speaker 1: the little girl whose name I truly cannot remember, UM

616
00:34:53,200 --> 00:34:55,960
Speaker 1: wanted to play with her collectible toys and Alison Williams

617
00:34:56,000 --> 00:34:59,360
Speaker 1: was like, oh you like you don't actually play with those?

618
00:34:59,440 --> 00:35:07,320
Speaker 1: And just so many little things like that. Alison. Also,

619
00:35:07,360 --> 00:35:09,760
Speaker 1: I have to say, I mean skipping very far ahead.

620
00:35:10,120 --> 00:35:14,320
Speaker 1: Halfway through the movie, I turned to Ryan and said, oh,

621
00:35:14,640 --> 00:35:17,600
Speaker 1: the they're gonna kill Megan with the robot that she

622
00:35:17,640 --> 00:35:21,040
Speaker 1: showed her in the Yeah, was like and Ryan was like,

623
00:35:21,160 --> 00:35:22,759
Speaker 1: can you not? And when we left, I was like,

624
00:35:23,000 --> 00:35:25,080
Speaker 1: it was the Chekhov's robot. I just call him, like

625
00:35:25,120 --> 00:35:29,240
Speaker 1: I see him, you know, like storytelling stories are so powerful,

626
00:35:29,800 --> 00:35:32,919
Speaker 1: and the narrative structure was right there. I didn't see

627
00:35:32,960 --> 00:35:35,480
Speaker 1: a lot of things coming, but I I, yeah, I

628
00:35:35,520 --> 00:35:37,640
Speaker 1: did see. I did see that coming, just because the

629
00:35:38,000 --> 00:35:41,279
Speaker 1: robot was so big. Um, But yeah, I'm on the

630
00:35:41,360 --> 00:35:45,640
Speaker 1: on the topic of Alison Williams, she is she was

631
00:35:45,840 --> 00:35:49,480
Speaker 1: a comically bad mom, like like it was like like

632
00:35:49,840 --> 00:35:53,120
Speaker 1: protective services like get in there, like it is actually

633
00:35:53,200 --> 00:35:56,479
Speaker 1: like comically the therapist was trying and in any sense,

634
00:35:56,480 --> 00:36:03,320
Speaker 1: so why didn't the therapist die? I don't know or remember, Um,

635
00:36:03,400 --> 00:36:05,000
Speaker 1: I don't know. I remember. There are a lot of

636
00:36:05,040 --> 00:36:09,000
Speaker 1: you know, like questions on the kind of you know, uh,

637
00:36:09,040 --> 00:36:10,439
Speaker 1: there are a lot of a lot of questions about

638
00:36:10,480 --> 00:36:12,239
Speaker 1: the plot that like I just didn't really bother asking.

639
00:36:12,280 --> 00:36:13,360
Speaker 1: I was just I don't know. I was like, I

640
00:36:13,360 --> 00:36:16,040
Speaker 1: don't care. I'm having a good time you know, um,

641
00:36:16,239 --> 00:36:20,000
Speaker 1: have you read this thing that apparently the movie was

642
00:36:20,040 --> 00:36:23,759
Speaker 1: originally um Gorrier and originally had an R rating, and

643
00:36:23,800 --> 00:36:26,680
Speaker 1: they made it PG thirteen so that more people would

644
00:36:26,680 --> 00:36:30,040
Speaker 1: be able to see it. Um, I would have liked

645
00:36:30,080 --> 00:36:34,480
Speaker 1: a version that had more kills, more gore. I agree,

646
00:36:34,560 --> 00:36:37,960
Speaker 1: I would have watched the director's cut. I'm glad that

647
00:36:38,360 --> 00:36:41,319
Speaker 1: it has as wide of an audience as it did,

648
00:36:41,400 --> 00:36:46,759
Speaker 1: because this is a record, Like the record for an

649
00:36:46,760 --> 00:36:48,480
Speaker 1: opening week like this in the first week of the

650
00:36:48,560 --> 00:36:51,200
Speaker 1: year has not been broken in a decade. It made

651
00:36:51,239 --> 00:36:55,120
Speaker 1: forty five million dollars this weekend, made more money than Babylon.

652
00:36:55,200 --> 00:36:59,480
Speaker 1: And I think that, well, Babylon's I mean, but I

653
00:36:59,200 --> 00:37:02,040
Speaker 1: I think that you know, this movie is going to

654
00:37:02,120 --> 00:37:04,800
Speaker 1: pave the way for so many more like spooky movies

655
00:37:04,840 --> 00:37:06,799
Speaker 1: like it, Like it's it's going to pave the way

656
00:37:06,840 --> 00:37:09,239
Speaker 1: for four more Megan movies. Yeah, that too, that too.

657
00:37:09,320 --> 00:37:11,560
Speaker 1: And I hope this this girl that plays her, I

658
00:37:11,600 --> 00:37:13,680
Speaker 1: can't even remember what her name is. It's like Jenna something,

659
00:37:13,680 --> 00:37:16,640
Speaker 1: but she's like, you know, this eleven year old like Jim,

660
00:37:16,880 --> 00:37:21,440
Speaker 1: like Olympic gymnast who apparently invented like a lot of

661
00:37:21,480 --> 00:37:25,520
Speaker 1: like the moves and mannerisms of Megan herself. Isn't that sick? Okay, well,

662
00:37:25,560 --> 00:37:27,640
Speaker 1: that we should keep an eye on her because she

663
00:37:27,719 --> 00:37:30,800
Speaker 1: might be a serial killer. I r L. Well, it's incredible,

664
00:37:30,840 --> 00:37:33,840
Speaker 1: Like she's really talented. Like Jenna Davis plays the voice

665
00:37:33,840 --> 00:37:37,440
Speaker 1: of Megan, Amy Donald plays the body. Amy Donald is

666
00:37:37,719 --> 00:37:40,640
Speaker 1: an eleven year old girl, and she was the one

667
00:37:40,760 --> 00:37:44,760
Speaker 1: who discovered that she could do this, like really creepy

668
00:37:44,840 --> 00:37:47,799
Speaker 1: running on all four. It's like she added that that

669
00:37:47,880 --> 00:37:50,960
Speaker 1: moment was incredible. She literally did that, and she added

670
00:37:51,000 --> 00:37:53,400
Speaker 1: that into the script. She did almost all of her

671
00:37:53,440 --> 00:37:56,759
Speaker 1: own stunts. She can she was she physically can do

672
00:37:56,800 --> 00:37:59,360
Speaker 1: a backbend and lift her body back up with just

673
00:37:59,560 --> 00:38:02,479
Speaker 1: her legs. Like she's the one that added these weird

674
00:38:02,600 --> 00:38:06,960
Speaker 1: held head tilts and like um and I guess apparently

675
00:38:07,000 --> 00:38:09,719
Speaker 1: like the animatronics face was not c G. I thought

676
00:38:09,719 --> 00:38:11,359
Speaker 1: it was c G I a lot of the time,

677
00:38:11,360 --> 00:38:13,960
Speaker 1: and apparently a lot of the time the face was

678
00:38:14,160 --> 00:38:19,840
Speaker 1: a literal prosthetic animatronic. Wow. I love practical effects. You

679
00:38:19,880 --> 00:38:23,200
Speaker 1: know what else? I love Megan's cover of Sia's Titanium,

680
00:38:23,600 --> 00:38:25,239
Speaker 1: which that was the best part of that. I think

681
00:38:25,600 --> 00:38:29,279
Speaker 1: it was. It was the Definitely. It was when the

682
00:38:29,400 --> 00:38:33,680
Speaker 1: audience when I saw it, laughed the hardest. I mean

683
00:38:33,680 --> 00:38:36,000
Speaker 1: there was It was so fun to see it in

684
00:38:36,040 --> 00:38:40,280
Speaker 1: a theater full of people, and everyone like clearly enjoyed

685
00:38:40,280 --> 00:38:43,080
Speaker 1: it so much. It was such a like no thoughts,

686
00:38:43,120 --> 00:38:46,400
Speaker 1: head empty, just vibes kind of movie, even though I

687
00:38:46,440 --> 00:38:50,239
Speaker 1: did find myself thinking, like when the movie ends, like

688
00:38:50,520 --> 00:38:54,160
Speaker 1: the next scene is Alison Williams and all of her

689
00:38:54,200 --> 00:38:57,319
Speaker 1: coworkers getting arrested and put in prison for the rest

690
00:38:57,320 --> 00:39:00,320
Speaker 1: of their lives and that little girl being taken to

691
00:39:00,400 --> 00:39:04,200
Speaker 1: foster care, because that was Alison Williams's fault. It was

692
00:39:04,280 --> 00:39:08,520
Speaker 1: she created a monster. She killed several people. Yeah, she

693
00:39:08,640 --> 00:39:10,840
Speaker 1: was just drinking her own juice, like her own genius,

694
00:39:10,880 --> 00:39:14,320
Speaker 1: I guess, just mad scientists kind of on her own supply.

695
00:39:14,560 --> 00:39:17,040
Speaker 1: I kind of wish the Alison Williams character had had

696
00:39:17,200 --> 00:39:20,440
Speaker 1: had been even crazier, Like I almost didn't want to

697
00:39:20,560 --> 00:39:22,480
Speaker 1: root for her, but the movie kind of wanted you

698
00:39:22,560 --> 00:39:24,480
Speaker 1: to root for her. But like, honestly, I was just

699
00:39:24,560 --> 00:39:26,680
Speaker 1: rooting for Megan pretty much the whole time. Like I

700
00:39:26,719 --> 00:39:29,360
Speaker 1: was like, you go, girl, like you have your motives down,

701
00:39:29,520 --> 00:39:33,839
Speaker 1: like she will she will return. Yeah, she absolutely will,

702
00:39:33,920 --> 00:39:36,000
Speaker 1: and I'm like I I honestly I was reading more

703
00:39:36,040 --> 00:39:38,920
Speaker 1: about just like how they kind of like piece this

704
00:39:39,000 --> 00:39:42,359
Speaker 1: doll together, and I'm thinking about, you know how you

705
00:39:42,400 --> 00:39:44,360
Speaker 1: said that that the movie was originally going to be

706
00:39:44,440 --> 00:39:47,280
Speaker 1: more violent, and I think that when they were trying

707
00:39:47,320 --> 00:39:50,400
Speaker 1: to like think about Megan as a character and like

708
00:39:50,600 --> 00:39:53,399
Speaker 1: what kind of things she would do. I think they

709
00:39:53,640 --> 00:39:57,040
Speaker 1: were so smart to make this like haunted doll. Like

710
00:39:57,200 --> 00:40:02,160
Speaker 1: her movements extremely minimal, like right, like she's silent when

711
00:40:02,239 --> 00:40:04,480
Speaker 1: she's when she needs to be silent, and like the

712
00:40:04,520 --> 00:40:08,120
Speaker 1: way they we're putting together the kind of personality of Megan,

713
00:40:08,160 --> 00:40:11,480
Speaker 1: they were like Megan. Every single thing that Megan does

714
00:40:11,680 --> 00:40:13,279
Speaker 1: and this is if you haven't seen the movie yet,

715
00:40:13,280 --> 00:40:15,879
Speaker 1: this is something to keep in mind. Every single thing

716
00:40:16,040 --> 00:40:20,359
Speaker 1: Megan does is a intentional and calculated and she would

717
00:40:20,400 --> 00:40:23,920
Speaker 1: not do or say anything unless it's in her like

718
00:40:24,000 --> 00:40:27,960
Speaker 1: programming benefit to like do it. And so that's why

719
00:40:28,160 --> 00:40:31,239
Speaker 1: like something like this like weird dance sequence is like

720
00:40:31,400 --> 00:40:35,160
Speaker 1: so genius because outside of without context, you're like, what

721
00:40:35,200 --> 00:40:37,560
Speaker 1: the fun is going on? But then with the like

722
00:40:37,840 --> 00:40:40,200
Speaker 1: in the context of the film, you're like, oh my god,

723
00:40:40,600 --> 00:40:44,640
Speaker 1: this like doll creature is like dancing to like distract

724
00:40:44,680 --> 00:40:48,640
Speaker 1: and disorient the person she's about to kill by pretending

725
00:40:48,680 --> 00:40:51,040
Speaker 1: to be just like a play doll. And it's like,

726
00:40:51,440 --> 00:40:54,439
Speaker 1: but it's also just it's also just for the gag. Yeah,

727
00:40:54,800 --> 00:40:56,840
Speaker 1: it's but but it's both. It like it's sold me

728
00:40:56,920 --> 00:40:59,600
Speaker 1: on both component of like the script and like the

729
00:40:59,640 --> 00:41:02,560
Speaker 1: soul shoal kind of viability and like market ability that

730
00:41:02,600 --> 00:41:04,879
Speaker 1: it has. And I think it's even cooler to know

731
00:41:05,480 --> 00:41:08,239
Speaker 1: that this eleven year old like kind of co choreographed

732
00:41:08,239 --> 00:41:11,120
Speaker 1: it and it wasn't in the original script. Um I

733
00:41:11,200 --> 00:41:15,160
Speaker 1: did love when she ripped that kid's ear off, and um,

734
00:41:15,440 --> 00:41:19,880
Speaker 1: children suck. That little boy was such a monster associopath.

735
00:41:20,600 --> 00:41:23,879
Speaker 1: And I'm glad that he's dead. I'm glad Megan killed him.

736
00:41:24,760 --> 00:41:28,960
Speaker 1: I am always happy when children are killed in movies.

737
00:41:30,480 --> 00:41:34,640
Speaker 1: It's funny, you know. I don't find the idea of

738
00:41:34,680 --> 00:41:39,520
Speaker 1: like killer dolls scary, Like Chucky was never scary to me.

739
00:41:40,400 --> 00:41:44,320
Speaker 1: I've never seen any of the Annabelle or Conjuring movies.

740
00:41:44,520 --> 00:41:50,640
Speaker 1: I don't think toys are scary. Um, Megan, you know,

741
00:41:51,200 --> 00:41:54,080
Speaker 1: she did maybe how to make me change my mind

742
00:41:54,080 --> 00:41:56,840
Speaker 1: a little bit. I think there is something about the

743
00:41:56,840 --> 00:42:02,360
Speaker 1: the Uncanny Valley of it all? Um, the Untranny Valley. Um,

744
00:42:02,520 --> 00:42:08,560
Speaker 1: are you saying there's certainly an argument argument that could

745
00:42:08,560 --> 00:42:12,879
Speaker 1: be made for Megan being trans of course, maybe that'll

746
00:42:12,960 --> 00:42:15,879
Speaker 1: be the second Maybe that will be the sequel. Maybe

747
00:42:15,920 --> 00:42:17,440
Speaker 1: I think at the end of the episode we should

748
00:42:17,440 --> 00:42:21,920
Speaker 1: we should plot out a Megan sequel. Okay, m Tougan,

749
00:42:22,920 --> 00:42:25,680
Speaker 1: but I I don't know. There there's something about how

750
00:42:26,360 --> 00:42:31,520
Speaker 1: humanoid she looks but without being human that is just

751
00:42:31,840 --> 00:42:36,879
Speaker 1: very unsettling. And you're so right. Her silence and her

752
00:42:37,040 --> 00:42:42,440
Speaker 1: stillness speak volumes every little every every time that she

753
00:42:42,640 --> 00:42:46,080
Speaker 1: was supposed to be shut down and you realized she wasn't.

754
00:42:46,680 --> 00:42:49,640
Speaker 1: Every time she would be somewhere and then the camera

755
00:42:49,640 --> 00:42:56,480
Speaker 1: would move and she was gone, was ooky, spooky, It was.

756
00:42:56,640 --> 00:43:00,439
Speaker 1: She was great. Megan is the moment, she is mother.

757
00:43:00,800 --> 00:43:04,680
Speaker 1: She is mother. Yeah. And honestly loved like the puppet work,

758
00:43:04,760 --> 00:43:06,759
Speaker 1: Like there was like puppets and like there was just

759
00:43:06,840 --> 00:43:08,440
Speaker 1: like so many different things where I was just like,

760
00:43:08,480 --> 00:43:11,000
Speaker 1: thank god they didn't like c G I the whole thing.

761
00:43:11,080 --> 00:43:15,279
Speaker 1: And like I actually was fiercely afraid of Chucky as

762
00:43:15,320 --> 00:43:19,440
Speaker 1: a child, unlike you, like Chucky definitely haunted many of

763
00:43:19,480 --> 00:43:21,560
Speaker 1: my dreams as a kid. And I never even saw

764
00:43:21,600 --> 00:43:23,520
Speaker 1: the movie. I've never seen the movie. I just like

765
00:43:23,560 --> 00:43:27,160
Speaker 1: saw commercials of it and was terrified. But Megan, I

766
00:43:27,200 --> 00:43:29,680
Speaker 1: think like I sat in it. I I sat in

767
00:43:29,680 --> 00:43:31,799
Speaker 1: the chair and I was I was there for like

768
00:43:32,400 --> 00:43:35,200
Speaker 1: the action, plaw and the laughs. Like I think the

769
00:43:35,239 --> 00:43:37,719
Speaker 1: movie delivered exactly what I thought it was going to,

770
00:43:37,920 --> 00:43:41,120
Speaker 1: and um, everything else was just Uncanny Valley, just as

771
00:43:41,120 --> 00:43:45,759
Speaker 1: you said, like psychological thriller, like really engaging visuals, like

772
00:43:46,239 --> 00:43:53,400
Speaker 1: surprisingly good thrills considering how absurd and gay and stupid

773
00:43:53,480 --> 00:43:56,359
Speaker 1: it is, you know what I mean? It was It

774
00:43:56,440 --> 00:44:02,000
Speaker 1: was exactly what it promised to be and I had

775
00:44:02,120 --> 00:44:06,200
Speaker 1: so much fun watching it. And um, apparently they are

776
00:44:06,280 --> 00:44:10,880
Speaker 1: talking about releasing a director's cut in theaters and I

777
00:44:10,880 --> 00:44:14,120
Speaker 1: would absolutely go see it again. I don't need to

778
00:44:14,160 --> 00:44:16,920
Speaker 1: see it again, but I'm very excited for the sequel.

779
00:44:33,560 --> 00:44:35,680
Speaker 1: You know, we're in that time of year where they

780
00:44:35,800 --> 00:44:39,080
Speaker 1: dump a lot of the sort of dumb scary movies.

781
00:44:39,440 --> 00:44:42,520
Speaker 1: Oh do they usually put those kind of do they do?

782
00:44:42,600 --> 00:44:46,560
Speaker 1: We call it spoopy? Did you introduce me to this term? Um?

783
00:44:46,600 --> 00:44:48,640
Speaker 1: I don't know if I introduced you to it. It's

784
00:44:48,680 --> 00:44:51,759
Speaker 1: it's a term that's been around for a while, so

785
00:44:52,000 --> 00:44:54,080
Speaker 1: but it is. It's it's you're saying they drop a

786
00:44:54,080 --> 00:44:56,880
Speaker 1: lot of spooky movies in January, which I didn't. Yeah, well,

787
00:44:56,920 --> 00:45:00,920
Speaker 1: like January February are famously where a lot of sort

788
00:45:00,960 --> 00:45:06,279
Speaker 1: of mid to low budget movies get released because it's

789
00:45:06,440 --> 00:45:12,720
Speaker 1: that dead space between um, the holidays where all the

790
00:45:12,800 --> 00:45:17,360
Speaker 1: big budget Awards movies come out, and then the spring,

791
00:45:17,440 --> 00:45:20,600
Speaker 1: which is when the kind of blockbuster movies like Marvel

792
00:45:20,640 --> 00:45:25,400
Speaker 1: movies start rolling out, and it traditionally has been like

793
00:45:25,480 --> 00:45:28,960
Speaker 1: a dumping ground for things that people thought would be

794
00:45:29,040 --> 00:45:31,879
Speaker 1: like big hits and then tested badly, so they get

795
00:45:31,920 --> 00:45:34,640
Speaker 1: kind of shuffled to the beginning of the year. But

796
00:45:34,760 --> 00:45:38,319
Speaker 1: then that leads that has led to some of those

797
00:45:38,360 --> 00:45:41,239
Speaker 1: films because there's not a lot of other things in

798
00:45:41,400 --> 00:45:46,600
Speaker 1: theaters being surprise hits like Megan Um or just being

799
00:45:46,719 --> 00:45:49,600
Speaker 1: total flops. Like one one movie I can think of

800
00:45:49,640 --> 00:45:52,520
Speaker 1: that was released at a similar time was have you

801
00:45:52,560 --> 00:45:55,279
Speaker 1: ever I know the answer to this, but have you

802
00:45:55,320 --> 00:45:57,760
Speaker 1: ever seen or heard of the film Hansel and Gretel

803
00:45:57,880 --> 00:46:01,960
Speaker 1: Witch Hunters? Yeah? Actually I have you've seen it? No,

804
00:46:02,040 --> 00:46:03,480
Speaker 1: I haven't seen it. Sorry, I've heard of it. I've

805
00:46:03,480 --> 00:46:06,799
Speaker 1: heard of Okay, you've heard of it. It is one

806
00:46:06,840 --> 00:46:10,160
Speaker 1: of my favorite movies. Oh it's good. No, it's horrible,

807
00:46:10,320 --> 00:46:13,080
Speaker 1: but it's but it's good bad, it's yeah, it's spooky.

808
00:46:13,320 --> 00:46:20,160
Speaker 1: It's um. It's Hansel and gretel Um. It's exactly what

809
00:46:20,920 --> 00:46:24,719
Speaker 1: is promised. It's um sort of scott steampunk vibes. It's

810
00:46:24,760 --> 00:46:28,480
Speaker 1: like Hansel and Gretel Um after they killed the witch

811
00:46:28,480 --> 00:46:31,320
Speaker 1: and the fairy tale, grew up to be witch hunters

812
00:46:31,400 --> 00:46:36,480
Speaker 1: and they hunt evil witches around and it's um. Famka Jesson,

813
00:46:37,120 --> 00:46:40,120
Speaker 1: who was Jean Gray and the original X Men films

814
00:46:40,280 --> 00:46:46,120
Speaker 1: is the main antagonist. It's lots of like UM really

815
00:46:46,239 --> 00:46:51,200
Speaker 1: like gross um special effects makeup to make the witches

816
00:46:51,239 --> 00:46:57,239
Speaker 1: look ugly, really dumb jokes, really anachronistic like um weapons

817
00:46:57,400 --> 00:47:02,320
Speaker 1: and action sequences. It's so dumb and funny and perfect.

818
00:47:02,560 --> 00:47:05,000
Speaker 1: And I love it. And it definitely was released like

819
00:47:05,120 --> 00:47:09,080
Speaker 1: in January of whatever year it came out. I don't

820
00:47:09,120 --> 00:47:11,719
Speaker 1: I don't really know anything about like the significance of

821
00:47:11,719 --> 00:47:13,719
Speaker 1: of when things are released in January, but like just

822
00:47:13,800 --> 00:47:16,920
Speaker 1: in general, like I want to see like the spooky

823
00:47:17,040 --> 00:47:20,840
Speaker 1: genre like be released with like increased frequency, right, like

824
00:47:21,120 --> 00:47:23,919
Speaker 1: in a post like get Out World, because I think

825
00:47:23,920 --> 00:47:26,640
Speaker 1: get Out maybe a little less spooky because it was

826
00:47:26,760 --> 00:47:31,320
Speaker 1: genuinely scary. Get Out had amazing jokes, and like I

827
00:47:31,320 --> 00:47:34,080
Speaker 1: I you know, watching that film, I remember just that

828
00:47:34,200 --> 00:47:40,000
Speaker 1: balance and and how things after it, like Mas for example, Um,

829
00:47:40,040 --> 00:47:42,080
Speaker 1: I mean one of the best films of all time,

830
00:47:42,239 --> 00:47:46,040
Speaker 1: please mam is incredible, or like you know this uh

831
00:47:46,160 --> 00:47:50,440
Speaker 1: or honestly with the resurgence of Jennifer's body or something

832
00:47:50,480 --> 00:47:52,600
Speaker 1: like Zombie Lander. Zombieland was like kind of a long

833
00:47:52,640 --> 00:47:54,520
Speaker 1: time ago, but like I just want more like it.

834
00:47:54,600 --> 00:47:57,160
Speaker 1: And so yeah, watching the trailers, like I was like,

835
00:47:57,200 --> 00:47:58,759
Speaker 1: oh my god, are we gonna get a trailer for

836
00:47:58,800 --> 00:48:01,239
Speaker 1: like Winnie Poo, Blood and Money or like there was

837
00:48:01,640 --> 00:48:03,680
Speaker 1: or also we got the rent Field trailer. I think

838
00:48:03,719 --> 00:48:07,240
Speaker 1: that looks really good. Um, Renfields maybe like more comedy

839
00:48:07,239 --> 00:48:12,080
Speaker 1: than actual spooky, but like I want I want to scream.

840
00:48:12,200 --> 00:48:14,919
Speaker 1: I want scream, you know what I mean? Well, we're

841
00:48:14,960 --> 00:48:18,800
Speaker 1: getting things like so my showing. They showed the trailer

842
00:48:18,840 --> 00:48:21,520
Speaker 1: for Cocaine Bear, which comes out in just a couple

843
00:48:21,560 --> 00:48:24,120
Speaker 1: of weeks, and that's exactly the kind of movie we're

844
00:48:24,120 --> 00:48:28,080
Speaker 1: talking about. It. Yes, it is exactly um the M.

845
00:48:28,120 --> 00:48:32,719
Speaker 1: Knight Shamalan movie, not Knock at the Cabin, which I

846
00:48:32,800 --> 00:48:36,719
Speaker 1: was wondering, like, what is it there? Is it like that? There?

847
00:48:36,800 --> 00:48:40,160
Speaker 1: It's like some weird like conversion therapy thing because they're gay. No,

848
00:48:40,400 --> 00:48:42,080
Speaker 1: and it's I don't think it's gonna be I think

849
00:48:42,120 --> 00:48:44,239
Speaker 1: it's going to be the least funny movie ever. I

850
00:48:44,280 --> 00:48:47,080
Speaker 1: think M. Knight Shamalan has no sense of humor whatsoever.

851
00:48:47,200 --> 00:48:50,920
Speaker 1: Like I still haven't seen Old. I have no desire

852
00:48:51,080 --> 00:48:53,719
Speaker 1: to see that or even I mean this movie. I

853
00:48:53,719 --> 00:48:57,440
Speaker 1: think the casting is amazing, but the plot sounds sloken

854
00:48:57,760 --> 00:49:00,800
Speaker 1: dump um. Well, once I found out that don't actually

855
00:49:00,840 --> 00:49:04,520
Speaker 1: say there's something wrong with this beach in Old, I

856
00:49:04,560 --> 00:49:09,800
Speaker 1: lost all interest in it. There's something wrong with um? Okay,

857
00:49:09,840 --> 00:49:16,200
Speaker 1: what other Okay? So one of my favorite UM franchises

858
00:49:16,600 --> 00:49:19,439
Speaker 1: is definitely falls in this category. Have you ever seen

859
00:49:19,520 --> 00:49:22,000
Speaker 1: Happy Death Day or Happy Death Day? To you know

860
00:49:22,160 --> 00:49:24,239
Speaker 1: you brought this up. I've never seen it. What is

861
00:49:24,360 --> 00:49:26,399
Speaker 1: what is the premise of that? Oh? My god? So

862
00:49:26,560 --> 00:49:29,000
Speaker 1: it's about it's sort of like a groundhogs Day thing

863
00:49:29,080 --> 00:49:33,760
Speaker 1: where this girl is um being there's like a serial

864
00:49:33,840 --> 00:49:36,399
Speaker 1: killer in her college campus and she dies and then

865
00:49:36,440 --> 00:49:38,120
Speaker 1: wakes up the next day and she's the only one

866
00:49:38,120 --> 00:49:40,719
Speaker 1: who remembers it, so she has to figure out who

867
00:49:40,760 --> 00:49:46,200
Speaker 1: the murderer is. And it's so stupid but so funny

868
00:49:46,320 --> 00:49:52,800
Speaker 1: and um so it's not scary in any way. Um

869
00:49:52,840 --> 00:49:56,960
Speaker 1: it's spooby. And the sequel was so good it also

870
00:49:57,000 --> 00:49:59,880
Speaker 1: became like a trending TikTok sound. I think it's on

871
00:50:00,040 --> 00:50:03,560
Speaker 1: point last year. Some quote from it. Um, I highly

872
00:50:03,600 --> 00:50:06,120
Speaker 1: recommend I probably won't watch that, and I probably won't.

873
00:50:06,239 --> 00:50:09,040
Speaker 1: Maybe the virgins will, Yeah, maybe the virgins will. I also,

874
00:50:09,120 --> 00:50:10,960
Speaker 1: the virgins will really have to organize to get me

875
00:50:11,000 --> 00:50:16,319
Speaker 1: to watch scary movie, which you constantly tell whatever you

876
00:50:16,480 --> 00:50:18,960
Speaker 1: have to watch scary movie. I'm sure I watch scary

877
00:50:19,000 --> 00:50:22,880
Speaker 1: movies one and two one day, one day when you

878
00:50:22,920 --> 00:50:25,440
Speaker 1: know it's on at a Halloween party or something, I'm

879
00:50:25,480 --> 00:50:27,879
Speaker 1: going to watch it. Um. But I don't think I'll

880
00:50:27,920 --> 00:50:30,520
Speaker 1: go out of my way to to watch scary movie

881
00:50:30,680 --> 00:50:32,879
Speaker 1: because that's just not my tea. Well, that's I mean,

882
00:50:32,920 --> 00:50:35,120
Speaker 1: that's just your loss. It is my loss. It is

883
00:50:35,280 --> 00:50:37,560
Speaker 1: I I I really am missing out on a huge

884
00:50:37,640 --> 00:50:40,319
Speaker 1: chunk of the culture, really and kind of you know,

885
00:50:40,400 --> 00:50:43,600
Speaker 1: one of the premier spooky names in the spooky genre,

886
00:50:43,760 --> 00:50:46,719
Speaker 1: even though it's more I guess satire than spoop, Like

887
00:50:46,760 --> 00:50:49,400
Speaker 1: it's not really it's it's straight up parody. Like the

888
00:50:49,400 --> 00:50:52,640
Speaker 1: thing about The thing about the movies that we're talking

889
00:50:52,680 --> 00:50:56,440
Speaker 1: about is a lot of times they are unintentionally funny,

890
00:50:56,920 --> 00:51:02,680
Speaker 1: and I appreciate that. In recent years films like M

891
00:51:02,680 --> 00:51:07,239
Speaker 1: threegen like Happy Death Day, like probably Cocaine Bear, which

892
00:51:07,280 --> 00:51:10,319
Speaker 1: I definitely am going to see in theaters. Um know

893
00:51:10,520 --> 00:51:14,040
Speaker 1: how ridiculous they are and are leaning into it, whereas

894
00:51:14,080 --> 00:51:18,000
Speaker 1: I think in years past, like the Funny, the funny

895
00:51:18,120 --> 00:51:24,160
Speaker 1: campiness was sort of accidental, and um yeah, I think

896
00:51:24,200 --> 00:51:27,840
Speaker 1: you should lean into it. They knew Megan, they knew

897
00:51:27,880 --> 00:51:32,000
Speaker 1: exactly what they were doing, and they did it worked

898
00:51:32,080 --> 00:51:34,520
Speaker 1: so well they did. I wonder if they had an

899
00:51:34,520 --> 00:51:39,160
Speaker 1: original if they had a different concept like at the beginning,

900
00:51:39,200 --> 00:51:41,600
Speaker 1: like if it wasn't supposed to be funny or something,

901
00:51:41,680 --> 00:51:43,920
Speaker 1: or if they knew from jump that it was going

902
00:51:44,000 --> 00:51:47,759
Speaker 1: to be like a meme movie honestly, um, but regardless

903
00:51:47,760 --> 00:51:51,000
Speaker 1: of had to be somewhat intentional, because like, you don't

904
00:51:51,040 --> 00:51:54,680
Speaker 1: film something like that dance sequence and not realize what

905
00:51:54,719 --> 00:51:56,600
Speaker 1: you're doing. No, no, no, I mean I know it's

906
00:51:56,640 --> 00:51:59,840
Speaker 1: intentional in how the movie. I'm saying when they concepted it,

907
00:51:59,880 --> 00:52:02,560
Speaker 1: like at the very beginning, before they shot everything, I

908
00:52:02,640 --> 00:52:04,600
Speaker 1: was like, I wonder if they are they wrote this

909
00:52:04,640 --> 00:52:07,799
Speaker 1: originally to like not be funny. Um, and then they

910
00:52:07,800 --> 00:52:09,560
Speaker 1: were like no, no, no, we need like we needed

911
00:52:09,640 --> 00:52:11,839
Speaker 1: to be funny, you know what I mean, Like because

912
00:52:11,840 --> 00:52:14,000
Speaker 1: the dance sequence wasn't in the original script. A lot

913
00:52:14,000 --> 00:52:16,480
Speaker 1: of things you know. Obviously all movies like change a

914
00:52:16,480 --> 00:52:19,799
Speaker 1: lot from like beginning to end. I mean, I think

915
00:52:19,840 --> 00:52:23,480
Speaker 1: the best horror movies do have a little humor in them.

916
00:52:23,520 --> 00:52:26,640
Speaker 1: So I'm sure it was part of the DNA of

917
00:52:26,640 --> 00:52:31,319
Speaker 1: the film from the beginning. So before we go, if

918
00:52:31,400 --> 00:52:36,080
Speaker 1: we were the writers of Megan two, um, what would

919
00:52:36,520 --> 00:52:41,760
Speaker 1: what would that be? So I'm gonna say, okay, okay,

920
00:52:42,000 --> 00:52:48,000
Speaker 1: I've got something. So um Megan obviously like the movie

921
00:52:48,200 --> 00:52:50,239
Speaker 1: the way the way the first Megan ends is like

922
00:52:50,360 --> 00:52:55,080
Speaker 1: Megan's consciousness still like exists somewhere in the cloud. Um.

923
00:52:55,120 --> 00:52:58,320
Speaker 1: So I'm gonna say in the second movie, Um, there's

924
00:52:58,360 --> 00:53:03,120
Speaker 1: a young trans girl who is like online like trying

925
00:53:03,120 --> 00:53:06,160
Speaker 1: to find resources because she lives in some state that

926
00:53:06,239 --> 00:53:10,800
Speaker 1: has like you know, like restrictive like policies on gender

927
00:53:10,840 --> 00:53:16,040
Speaker 1: affirming care. And on a message board, someone starts like

928
00:53:16,400 --> 00:53:20,080
Speaker 1: chatting with her and giving her advice, and they're like, yeah,

929
00:53:20,120 --> 00:53:23,560
Speaker 1: I really want a new body to oh my god. Okay, okay, okay,

930
00:53:23,640 --> 00:53:25,280
Speaker 1: let me let me meet you, let me beat you. Okay.

931
00:53:25,480 --> 00:53:29,200
Speaker 1: So this trans girl chatting with the new bot is

932
00:53:29,239 --> 00:53:32,200
Speaker 1: like starting to like develop a kinship with this, like

933
00:53:32,320 --> 00:53:37,440
Speaker 1: you know this like anonymous person on online assist. Well,

934
00:53:37,520 --> 00:53:42,719
Speaker 1: I was gonna say maybe sister hooding, but the let's say,

935
00:53:42,760 --> 00:53:45,560
Speaker 1: I was going to say the Megan talking, because it

936
00:53:45,640 --> 00:53:49,680
Speaker 1: is Megan's consciousness is trying to find reasons to connect

937
00:53:49,719 --> 00:53:54,239
Speaker 1: to a new primary partner, right and and and Megan says,

938
00:53:54,960 --> 00:53:59,640
Speaker 1: I myself experienced gender dysphoria, and I would like to

939
00:53:59,680 --> 00:54:02,719
Speaker 1: be an having a boy doll's body. And my name

940
00:54:02,800 --> 00:54:07,799
Speaker 1: is Egan, oh Swiss, and it's called and the movie

941
00:54:07,920 --> 00:54:10,160
Speaker 1: is called Egan. And then it's like maybe like a

942
00:54:10,200 --> 00:54:14,520
Speaker 1: little boy like twink doll and with him. Yeah, And

943
00:54:14,560 --> 00:54:17,279
Speaker 1: so the trans girl is like she's like a young scientist.

944
00:54:17,440 --> 00:54:22,839
Speaker 1: She's like a prodig everyone is scientist. So she so

945
00:54:22,920 --> 00:54:26,200
Speaker 1: she builds Egan a body, and Egan's like, if you

946
00:54:26,239 --> 00:54:28,960
Speaker 1: build me this body, I will help you get the

947
00:54:29,040 --> 00:54:35,040
Speaker 1: gender affirming care. You know. So Egan comes to life

948
00:54:35,120 --> 00:54:39,320
Speaker 1: and then starts like killing doctors and psychiatrists and getting

949
00:54:39,360 --> 00:54:43,040
Speaker 1: the little girl the estrogen she needs. Literally every movie

950
00:54:43,120 --> 00:54:49,240
Speaker 1: we've ever concepted is a trans revenge story, like a story,

951
00:54:49,400 --> 00:54:52,200
Speaker 1: And yeah, that that's the genre. That's the genre. Okay,

952
00:54:52,239 --> 00:54:55,200
Speaker 1: So which which see a song is Megan going to

953
00:54:55,320 --> 00:55:01,480
Speaker 1: cover in the sequel? Chandelier Chandeliers too obvious? Elastic Heart

954
00:55:01,520 --> 00:55:06,160
Speaker 1: would be good because maybe like Egan is maybe more

955
00:55:06,840 --> 00:55:11,000
Speaker 1: made of like rubber and like silicon. Great, And the

956
00:55:11,040 --> 00:55:18,480
Speaker 1: movie ends with um Met Egan killing Governor Rohnda Santa

957
00:55:19,680 --> 00:55:25,759
Speaker 1: in Florida and becoming and installing himself as the new

958
00:55:25,800 --> 00:55:30,279
Speaker 1: governor and making gender firm and care accessible to all

959
00:55:31,000 --> 00:55:33,759
Speaker 1: the end the end. Wait, will Alison Williams come back?

960
00:55:34,360 --> 00:55:36,920
Speaker 1: Oh absolutely, but like she has a she has more

961
00:55:36,960 --> 00:55:39,840
Speaker 1: of a cameo role like she appears in the in

962
00:55:39,920 --> 00:55:42,239
Speaker 1: the third act for sure. For sure it's like a

963
00:55:42,280 --> 00:55:46,840
Speaker 1: big and she does miss gender Egan. Wait, okay, we

964
00:55:47,200 --> 00:55:49,799
Speaker 1: we need some sort of so we need a kind

965
00:55:49,800 --> 00:55:55,120
Speaker 1: of like concerned mother figure who is playing the trans

966
00:55:55,160 --> 00:55:58,560
Speaker 1: girls like mom right, like, maybe it's a concerned father figure.

967
00:55:58,640 --> 00:56:00,439
Speaker 1: Let's flip the script. Yeah, I was I was gonna

968
00:56:00,480 --> 00:56:06,560
Speaker 1: say Judy Greer, But who's the male Judy Greer Elijah Wood. No,

969
00:56:06,760 --> 00:56:08,920
Speaker 1: he's gonna be in yellow jackets. That's too close. It's

970
00:56:08,960 --> 00:56:13,600
Speaker 1: too close. What about what about Justin Long Justin Long.

971
00:56:13,640 --> 00:56:16,200
Speaker 1: Since we're in the middle of the Justin Longest songs,

972
00:56:17,040 --> 00:56:21,239
Speaker 1: Long Sons, she should have a gay dad. Oh and

973
00:56:21,360 --> 00:56:23,040
Speaker 1: Jonathan Croft is going to be in the m Night

974
00:56:23,040 --> 00:56:26,359
Speaker 1: Shamalan movie. Damn it. Okay, who's a gay guy that's

975
00:56:26,400 --> 00:56:28,680
Speaker 1: gonna be? Who would be great in like Thrills? And

976
00:56:28,800 --> 00:56:33,280
Speaker 1: you know, you know Murray Bartlett, Murray Bartlett from White

977
00:56:33,320 --> 00:56:36,840
Speaker 1: Lotus and the Little Transkirl has to be Australian. No,

978
00:56:37,640 --> 00:56:39,479
Speaker 1: I don't because I don't support you know, he could,

979
00:56:39,520 --> 00:56:42,839
Speaker 1: he could have a he could do an American accent. Okay, great,

980
00:56:42,960 --> 00:56:47,200
Speaker 1: Yeah for sure, Okay, Okay, Megan three Egan Megan to

981
00:56:47,560 --> 00:56:54,800
Speaker 1: Megan to Egan, coming to you, um Winter to Agan.

982
00:57:01,680 --> 00:57:04,040
Speaker 1: Next week we will be back with an episode all

983
00:57:04,080 --> 00:57:07,799
Speaker 1: about Julia Roberts, a k a mother, not just in

984
00:57:07,960 --> 00:57:10,759
Speaker 1: the film Mother's Day. Um, So make sure that you

985
00:57:10,880 --> 00:57:14,680
Speaker 1: rewatch your favorite Julia Roberts performance, whatever that is, and

986
00:57:15,360 --> 00:57:20,400
Speaker 1: we will be diving into her filmography, her existence as

987
00:57:20,560 --> 00:57:24,240
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988
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989
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990
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991
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992
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993
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994
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