WEBVTT - BTK Returns [7] 0:00:02.720 --> 0:00:06.760 New episodes of Monster BTK are released every Monday and 0:00:06.800 --> 0:00:10.480 brought to you absolutely free. But if you want to 0:00:10.480 --> 0:00:13.880 hear the whole season right now, it's available ad free 0:00:13.920 --> 0:00:18.200 on iHeart True Crime Plus. For more information, check out 0:00:18.200 --> 0:00:22.480 the show notes. Enjoy the episode. 0:00:24.520 --> 0:00:29.200 You're listening to Monster BTK, a production of iHeart Podcasts 0:00:29.440 --> 0:00:33.400 and Tenderfoot TV. Listener discretion is advised. 0:00:39.240 --> 0:00:42.920 On June thirteenth, two thousand and four, a man was 0:00:43.040 --> 0:00:46.720 walking to work in a secluded part of Whichital. As 0:00:46.720 --> 0:00:50.320 he reached the intersection of First in Kansas, he noticed 0:00:50.320 --> 0:00:54.680 something odd, a plastic bag taped to the back of 0:00:54.720 --> 0:00:58.440 a stop sign. He opened it and found a letter 0:00:58.480 --> 0:01:04.200 inside with a label that read BTK Field Ground. It 0:01:04.280 --> 0:01:07.880 was a three page story written by BTK in the 0:01:07.920 --> 0:01:10.520 third person. Here is what it said. 0:01:11.600 --> 0:01:13.920 If a person happens to be out on one of 0:01:13.959 --> 0:01:17.320 these cold mornings in a certain part of Wichitah, that 0:01:17.560 --> 0:01:21.360 is the northeast part, on a particular morning in January, 0:01:22.040 --> 0:01:24.560 he might have noticed a man park his car in 0:01:24.600 --> 0:01:28.600 a store parking lot, pause briefly, then walk across the 0:01:28.640 --> 0:01:33.080 street and disappear among the houses and commercial buildings. If 0:01:33.120 --> 0:01:35.680 they had followed him, they would have noticed his head 0:01:35.959 --> 0:01:39.520 bent load the ground and wearing a heavy parka. If 0:01:39.600 --> 0:01:42.760 they would have looked closer, they would notice his eyes 0:01:42.840 --> 0:01:46.319 dark back and forth across the street, checking the house 0:01:46.560 --> 0:01:50.640 windows and door. As he nears a house on the corner, 0:01:50.960 --> 0:01:54.560 he quickly glanced around and jumped the wooded fence surrounding 0:01:54.600 --> 0:01:57.520 the house. He knew the family left the house at 0:01:57.560 --> 0:02:00.960 approximately eight forty five and would walk out to the 0:02:01.000 --> 0:02:05.680 car and leave for school, and in approximately seven minutes 0:02:06.080 --> 0:02:10.560 the lady Judy would return home. He had earlier in 0:02:10.600 --> 0:02:13.720 the week seen them leave for school. One day, he 0:02:13.840 --> 0:02:19.239 thought to himself, say, this may be it a perfect setup. 0:02:19.919 --> 0:02:22.480 A house on the corner, a garage set off from 0:02:22.480 --> 0:02:25.920 the house, a fenced yard, a large space from the 0:02:25.960 --> 0:02:31.160 nearby neighbor's house, especially the back door. It was a 0:02:31.160 --> 0:02:33.720 few days later that he stopped across the street and 0:02:33.760 --> 0:02:36.400 followed the family car to see where they went. That morning, 0:02:37.080 --> 0:02:41.200 she took the kids to school each and returned. A 0:02:41.360 --> 0:02:45.280 perfect setup. It was close to his fantasy of a 0:02:45.360 --> 0:02:51.400 victim all to himself, a person he could tie up, torture, 0:02:52.280 --> 0:02:53.240 and maybe. 0:02:53.000 --> 0:03:02.600 Kill, killed four members of a family. 0:03:02.840 --> 0:03:05.720 Had you vanished from her home, suddenly last weekend, her 0:03:05.760 --> 0:03:08.080 phone lines had been cut, her door left open. 0:03:08.360 --> 0:03:11.639 You see the victim playing there with plastic bags over 0:03:11.680 --> 0:03:12.799 their heads, strangled. 0:03:13.240 --> 0:03:15.880 You could tell it was a plan scenario. 0:03:16.120 --> 0:03:18.560 Well, police have said no more about the contents of 0:03:18.600 --> 0:03:21.400 the letter. It does contain some sort of threat and 0:03:21.440 --> 0:03:23.680 implies the killer may strike again. 0:03:24.000 --> 0:03:25.480 He's going to play with these victims. 0:03:26.160 --> 0:03:28.760 He'd get him to the point of death and then 0:03:28.800 --> 0:03:29.359 bring them. 0:03:29.200 --> 0:03:32.280 Back and then brings them back to the point of death. 0:03:33.880 --> 0:03:39.360 From My Heart Podcasts and Tenderfoot TV, I'm Susan Peters 0:03:40.000 --> 0:03:49.760 and this is Monster BTK. It was June of two 0:03:49.840 --> 0:03:54.600 thousand and four and BTK was back. Starting in March 0:03:54.600 --> 0:03:57.720 of that year, BTK had begun to send letters to 0:03:57.840 --> 0:04:02.720 news outlets and police with haunting and threatening messages. At 0:04:02.840 --> 0:04:07.880 KKE TV, this was a massive by far the biggest 0:04:07.920 --> 0:04:12.280 story since btk's first murders in the nineteen seventies. 0:04:13.000 --> 0:04:15.880 And Good Evening we have exclusive details a new communication 0:04:16.040 --> 0:04:21.560 that could be from the serial killer BTK. On June thirteenth, 0:04:21.760 --> 0:04:24.680 Whichita police recovered the letter which you heard about at 0:04:24.720 --> 0:04:27.640 the top of the episode. It was discovered by a 0:04:27.680 --> 0:04:30.840 man who was walking to work taped to the back 0:04:30.880 --> 0:04:35.400 of a stop sign. It was btk's third correspondent since 0:04:35.440 --> 0:04:40.799 his return and his longest letter to date. Previous letters 0:04:40.800 --> 0:04:44.520 had been short, vague packages sent to local news outlets, 0:04:45.040 --> 0:04:46.159 but this was different. 0:04:46.800 --> 0:04:51.239 It was a lengthy and detailed recounting of his first murder, 0:04:51.800 --> 0:04:56.080 the nineteen seventy four killing of the Otero family. He 0:04:56.200 --> 0:05:00.200 gave a detailed, first hand account of the event from 0:05:00.200 --> 0:05:01.320 thirty years earlier. 0:05:02.560 --> 0:05:06.080 About twenty minutes before nine, the door unlocked and the 0:05:06.120 --> 0:05:10.240 boy stepped outside. In just a flash, he ordered him 0:05:10.279 --> 0:05:14.799 back inside, confronting the family, armed with a pistol and knife, 0:05:15.120 --> 0:05:17.760 he told them that this was a stick up and 0:05:17.839 --> 0:05:18.880 not to be alarmed. 0:05:20.640 --> 0:05:24.440 This letter was handed over to Wichita PD. Police detective 0:05:24.520 --> 0:05:29.000 Kenny Landwaer quickly noticed that the letter was actually a photocopy, 0:05:29.600 --> 0:05:33.200 most likely of a journal entry about the murder written 0:05:33.240 --> 0:05:36.920 by BTK right after the killing in nineteen seventy four. 0:05:38.320 --> 0:05:41.440 The family was preparing to leave. The kids were packing 0:05:41.480 --> 0:05:43.800 their lunches and they had to gather their coats by 0:05:43.880 --> 0:05:47.520 the table. The mother, Judy, asked what was going on 0:05:47.880 --> 0:05:50.400 and said they had no money or anything of value. 0:05:51.040 --> 0:05:54.279 The boy was by his folk's side looking scared, and 0:05:54.360 --> 0:05:59.039 the girl Josephine was beginning to cry. All of them 0:05:59.160 --> 0:06:03.400 gathered in the hall. He told them their orders. He 0:06:03.520 --> 0:06:07.480 was wanted and needed the car money in food. Joe 0:06:07.520 --> 0:06:10.440 noticed his gun hand shake and told the family to 0:06:10.480 --> 0:06:15.480 settle down and all would be okay. 0:06:16.520 --> 0:06:21.200 The letter also included a graphic hand drawing titled the 0:06:21.320 --> 0:06:26.200 sexual Thrill is My Bill. It depicted a naked and 0:06:26.320 --> 0:06:30.000 tied up woman hanging by the neck from a rope. 0:06:31.240 --> 0:06:35.240 Why this letter, why recount the Otero story once again? 0:06:35.800 --> 0:06:38.120 And why did he leave it in a remote location? 0:06:39.040 --> 0:06:42.400 Raider would answer some of these questions years later in 0:06:42.480 --> 0:06:44.839 the book Confession of a Serial Killer. 0:06:46.040 --> 0:06:49.680 I left the package at first in Kansas. This symbolic 0:06:49.800 --> 0:06:52.920 meaning was important to me. We live in a symbolic world. 0:06:53.440 --> 0:06:55.880 I didn't pick the spot just because it was handy. 0:06:55.960 --> 0:06:59.680 There was a purpose. The stop sign was stop and 0:06:59.720 --> 0:07:03.560 look people of Kansas. The poll was the male symbol. 0:07:04.040 --> 0:07:07.520 I picked the number three type date attached the package 0:07:07.560 --> 0:07:10.880 on June twelfth. The package was wrapped in plastic and 0:07:11.000 --> 0:07:14.800 duct tape, a symbol of bondage and staple items in 0:07:14.840 --> 0:07:18.640 a BTK hit kit. By posting it here, I figured 0:07:18.760 --> 0:07:22.280 an amateur would handle it before the police that would 0:07:22.320 --> 0:07:23.560 destroy key evidence. 0:07:25.080 --> 0:07:28.160 As we mentioned at the beginning of the episode, BTK 0:07:28.440 --> 0:07:32.320 labeled the letter as a quote field gram. Raider would 0:07:32.400 --> 0:07:34.440 later explain what this meant. 0:07:35.560 --> 0:07:39.360 The BTK field gram is like a telegram. It short 0:07:39.480 --> 0:07:43.800 has important news coding from Morse code in the cat 0:07:43.800 --> 0:07:46.280 and Mouse game. I envisioned the chapter of the first 0:07:46.360 --> 0:07:50.920 BTK hit, chapter one, being the oteros. 0:07:51.760 --> 0:07:55.760 So this was chapter one of the BTK autobiography that 0:07:55.800 --> 0:07:59.040 he had promised in a previous letter. If you remember 0:07:59.040 --> 0:08:03.720 from the last episode, one of btk's earlier packages included 0:08:03.800 --> 0:08:07.920 an outline for a thirteen chapter book about his deeds. 0:08:08.640 --> 0:08:13.080 Rader intended to share each chapter of his story one 0:08:13.160 --> 0:08:20.680 at a time, and this was just the beginning. Rader 0:08:20.720 --> 0:08:23.720 wanted to keep the momentum going, and so the pace 0:08:23.800 --> 0:08:26.600 of his letter started to pick up. The next one 0:08:26.680 --> 0:08:30.120 came only a month later. This time it was found 0:08:30.160 --> 0:08:33.000 somewhere that no one expected to find it. 0:08:34.360 --> 0:08:37.040 This is the strongest warning yet police have issued for 0:08:37.120 --> 0:08:40.600 widgetans to watch out and take extra precautions. After a 0:08:40.679 --> 0:08:44.120 letter was found at the Wichitaw Public Library early Saturday morning. 0:08:45.480 --> 0:08:49.160 This new package was discovered by a Wichita library employee 0:08:49.440 --> 0:08:52.640 on the morning of July seventeenth, two thousand and four. 0:08:54.120 --> 0:08:58.800 Speculation immediately went to BTK and another possible communication from 0:08:58.800 --> 0:09:02.120 the serial killer. Police now confirming they are turning the 0:09:02.200 --> 0:09:04.880 letter as such while they wait for the FBI to 0:09:04.920 --> 0:09:07.800 confirm whether the letter is in fact from BTK. 0:09:09.600 --> 0:09:12.240 At Cake, we didn't know the contents of this letter. 0:09:12.480 --> 0:09:15.600 Police had confiscated it before any journalists had a chance 0:09:15.640 --> 0:09:19.160 to see it, but investigators had it and they were 0:09:19.280 --> 0:09:25.040 shocked by what it said. In it, BTK claimed responsibility 0:09:25.360 --> 0:09:30.200 for a new victim. This letter was titled Jakie, and 0:09:30.280 --> 0:09:34.079 this time BTK says he met and killed a nineteen 0:09:34.160 --> 0:09:39.440 year old named Jake Allen. Just a few weeks earlier, 0:09:39.600 --> 0:09:43.040 a Jake Allen had been found dead near Wellington, Kansas, 0:09:43.480 --> 0:09:47.200 just outside of Wichita, but police hadn't determined the cause 0:09:47.200 --> 0:09:51.679 of death just yet. And then this new letter arrives, 0:09:52.240 --> 0:09:54.000 where BTK writes. 0:09:55.160 --> 0:09:57.400 I had to stop work on chapter two of the 0:09:57.400 --> 0:10:01.480 BTK story due to the death of j I was 0:10:01.559 --> 0:10:04.160 so excited about this incident that I had to tell 0:10:04.200 --> 0:10:05.560 the story. 0:10:06.200 --> 0:10:09.560 BTK goes on to say that he supposedly corresponded with 0:10:09.640 --> 0:10:12.920 Jake over email. According to the letter, the two men 0:10:13.000 --> 0:10:15.800 talked about explicit sexual desires. 0:10:17.080 --> 0:10:21.800 Jakie had fantasies about sexual masturbation in unusual ways with 0:10:21.960 --> 0:10:24.560 bondage and homosexual thrills. 0:10:25.880 --> 0:10:30.079 The letter implies that at some point BTK convinced Jake 0:10:30.160 --> 0:10:34.880 to meet him in person, and that BTK then murdered him. 0:10:35.800 --> 0:10:39.840 Also included in this library package were photos of a 0:10:39.880 --> 0:10:43.920 hooded figure in bondage and a crew drawing of a 0:10:43.960 --> 0:10:48.120 bound up mail. The BTK Task Force looked into the 0:10:48.160 --> 0:10:52.000 supposed connection to Jake Allen, but they found no evidence 0:10:52.040 --> 0:10:56.360 that BTK was actually involved, and in fact, it was 0:10:56.400 --> 0:11:01.320 eventually determined that Jake Allen had actually come headed suicide. 0:11:03.160 --> 0:11:06.959 So what was this all about? Just a prank raider 0:11:06.960 --> 0:11:10.280 would later admit that he was just toying with police. 0:11:10.880 --> 0:11:14.760 Here's what he said years later, we're counting the library package. 0:11:15.720 --> 0:11:18.320 I posted the Jaki letter under the cover story of 0:11:18.559 --> 0:11:22.160 Erin's on a Saturday morning. I handled the Jakie package 0:11:22.200 --> 0:11:24.880 with gloves. I saw the article about him in the 0:11:24.880 --> 0:11:29.120 Wichita Eagle. I meant no disrespect to his family. I 0:11:29.160 --> 0:11:31.679 only used him as a symbol to stir the pot. 0:11:32.320 --> 0:11:35.760 I used some male slick ads to draw off. With 0:11:35.880 --> 0:11:38.600 this letter, I let the police know that I was older, 0:11:38.840 --> 0:11:42.360 but perhaps smarter with age, even if they didn't know 0:11:42.440 --> 0:11:45.360 my age. At the age of fifty nine, I was 0:11:45.480 --> 0:11:48.280 pretty old for a serial killer to be on the prowl. 0:11:52.480 --> 0:11:55.360 Raider was pretty happy with himself. He thought he had 0:11:55.360 --> 0:11:58.280 thrown the police for a loop. At the very least, 0:11:58.559 --> 0:12:01.560 he made them suspect that he was still dangerous, that 0:12:01.640 --> 0:12:05.800 he might be able to kill again all these years later, 0:12:06.720 --> 0:12:11.360 and in fact, Raider was considering it throughout two thousand 0:12:11.400 --> 0:12:15.040 and four. While sending these letters. He was still prowling, 0:12:15.559 --> 0:12:19.120 planning to kill again, and he had his eyes on 0:12:19.200 --> 0:12:22.600 a new target, which he discovered while working his job 0:12:22.640 --> 0:12:27.040 with Wichita Animal Control. It was his first real project 0:12:27.400 --> 0:12:28.720 in fifteen years. 0:12:30.000 --> 0:12:33.400 My first attempt was October twenty second, two thousand and four. 0:12:34.000 --> 0:12:36.560 As I drove back and forth to the Wichita Animal 0:12:36.600 --> 0:12:40.520 shelter on North Hillside, I watched the address alone hydraulic. 0:12:41.120 --> 0:12:44.080 The houses were set back a little. The house had 0:12:44.120 --> 0:12:46.960 a female, a high school girl, and a male at 0:12:47.000 --> 0:12:52.200 one time, but he disappeared or left as the days passed. 0:12:52.200 --> 0:12:54.240 I would write in a log book the dates and 0:12:54.320 --> 0:12:58.360 times of her routines. She had a perfect pattern. She 0:12:58.520 --> 0:13:01.439 was a brunette, a bit heavy, medium height, in her 0:13:01.480 --> 0:13:04.760 thirties or forties. She worked at a machine shop on 0:13:04.800 --> 0:13:08.000 the corner of Hillside in thirty seventh, just north of 0:13:08.040 --> 0:13:11.240 the shelter, so easy for me to stalk. 0:13:12.520 --> 0:13:15.400 We don't know her real name, but Raider called her 0:13:15.679 --> 0:13:20.760 project board Water. After enough stalking, he finally picked a 0:13:20.840 --> 0:13:23.480 day in the fall of two thousand and four and 0:13:23.640 --> 0:13:24.680 made his move. 0:13:25.960 --> 0:13:29.400 On Friday, October twenty second. I packed up my hit kit, 0:13:29.640 --> 0:13:31.760 bike and gear I was going to use on her 0:13:31.760 --> 0:13:35.520 at the house, so I was ready. I drove by 0:13:35.520 --> 0:13:38.280 the house all pent up. I saw a crew working 0:13:38.320 --> 0:13:43.080 at the curb near her house. The unknown always and unknown, 0:13:43.559 --> 0:13:47.680 too many people around. I waited the time ran out. 0:13:48.200 --> 0:13:50.880 I was disappointed. I wasn't going to do the hit, 0:13:51.000 --> 0:13:53.200 but I thought I would try again in the spring 0:13:53.440 --> 0:13:55.200 when I had an excuse for fishing. 0:13:57.200 --> 0:14:00.520 It was a failed attempt. He got to buy the 0:14:00.600 --> 0:14:04.000 number of people surrounding our house, most of them apparently 0:14:04.040 --> 0:14:09.240 construction workers. But Raider wasn't done that day. He decided 0:14:09.280 --> 0:14:13.000 to do something else instead. Before going home, on October 0:14:13.040 --> 0:14:16.920 twenty second, he made a detour. He stopped off at 0:14:16.960 --> 0:14:18.840 the Omni Center in Wichita. 0:14:19.800 --> 0:14:22.680 A UPS worker comes and goes with nothing to say, 0:14:22.800 --> 0:14:25.200 not willing to talk about his colleague who's believed to 0:14:25.240 --> 0:14:28.120 have found a suspicious package in this dropbox on Friday, 0:14:28.120 --> 0:14:31.920 October twenty second, and this FedEx worker says, the employee 0:14:31.920 --> 0:14:34.840 who usually runs by here has to be taken off 0:14:34.840 --> 0:14:38.160 this stop because of what happened Friday night. This email 0:14:38.280 --> 0:14:42.120 is all police would release concerning the package, it says. Recently, 0:14:42.160 --> 0:14:45.280 the Wichita Police Department obtained another letter that could be 0:14:45.360 --> 0:14:49.960 connected to the BTK investigation. It comes on October twenty second, 0:14:50.240 --> 0:14:54.480 the thirtieth anniversary of his first communication with police concerning 0:14:54.520 --> 0:14:55.760 his string of killings. 0:14:57.120 --> 0:15:00.800 It was a big day for BTK. This new letter 0:15:00.840 --> 0:15:06.000 included information about his background and upbringing. This was chapter two, 0:15:06.560 --> 0:15:11.920 titled Dawn. It included his supposed birth year and told 0:15:12.000 --> 0:15:15.600 stories from his childhood. He admitted to being a peeping 0:15:15.680 --> 0:15:18.720 tom and even gave away that he had been in 0:15:18.760 --> 0:15:22.880 the Air Force. This very likely gave Raider a confidence 0:15:22.920 --> 0:15:26.800 boost his story was getting out there. But this new 0:15:26.840 --> 0:15:31.720 information also emboldened the police. They started looking for men 0:15:31.840 --> 0:15:48.280 matching his age and history, and very soon they found someone. 0:15:48.560 --> 0:15:52.920 On December one, two thousand and four, investigators honed in 0:15:52.960 --> 0:15:57.600 on a promising BTK suspect. All day, police staked out 0:15:57.640 --> 0:16:01.080 the house where the suspect lived. Then at around seven 0:16:01.160 --> 0:16:05.000 thirty pm, they raided the house guns drawn. 0:16:06.320 --> 0:16:08.760 I had thought what I heard were knocks on the door, 0:16:09.320 --> 0:16:12.720 like hard knocks, and I wasn't feeling well that day. 0:16:13.360 --> 0:16:16.120 I had already turned in for the night, and the 0:16:16.160 --> 0:16:19.320 next thing I knew there were people in my house, 0:16:20.080 --> 0:16:24.160 several plain clothes policemen and some uniform There were at 0:16:24.240 --> 0:16:26.600 least five nine milimeters pointing at me. 0:16:28.120 --> 0:16:31.760 The man they arrested was sixty four year old Roger Valadez. 0:16:32.360 --> 0:16:35.480 He was born in nineteen thirty nine, the year BTK 0:16:35.600 --> 0:16:38.000 had claimed was his birth year in the last letter, 0:16:38.440 --> 0:16:42.280 and he lived near railroad tracks, something BTK had also 0:16:42.440 --> 0:16:46.200 alluded to in the letter. I remember this night well. 0:16:46.600 --> 0:16:48.520 My news director and I had to spend the night 0:16:48.560 --> 0:16:51.680 in the newsroom just in case an announcement was made, 0:16:52.120 --> 0:16:56.240 so Cake could be the first to announce btk's arrest. 0:16:57.200 --> 0:17:02.400 They arrested Validez on some small charges misdemeanors like trespassing, 0:17:02.480 --> 0:17:06.320 our housing code violations. Police made a mess of his 0:17:06.400 --> 0:17:11.080 house and interrogated him for the next twenty four hours. 0:17:11.520 --> 0:17:13.520 They broke the storm door open, and they broke the 0:17:14.119 --> 0:17:16.720 wooden entry door to gain entry into my house, and 0:17:17.119 --> 0:17:19.960 there they were. They told me that I had given DNA. 0:17:20.359 --> 0:17:22.960 They held me down and they swabbed my cheek and 0:17:23.000 --> 0:17:23.920 they took it forciately. 0:17:25.440 --> 0:17:29.760 After the DNA swab, they waited for the results. But 0:17:29.840 --> 0:17:34.320 a few days later KSNTV announced that BTK had been 0:17:34.400 --> 0:17:38.640 caught and that his name was Roger Valadez. They had 0:17:38.720 --> 0:17:42.760 jumped the gun because soon the DNA results did come back. 0:17:43.520 --> 0:17:50.640 Roger was innocent and cleared of suspicion, but the damage 0:17:50.640 --> 0:17:55.000 on Roger's life was already done. He was supposedly branded 0:17:55.040 --> 0:17:58.320 a killer by some people in the community and struggled 0:17:58.320 --> 0:18:01.960 to regain his trust with local He later sued the 0:18:01.960 --> 0:18:06.040 TV station for one point one million dollars and one. 0:18:07.040 --> 0:18:11.040 My name was in My family's name was besmirched and 0:18:11.320 --> 0:18:14.800 damaged by the media in a negative way. I want 0:18:14.800 --> 0:18:17.879 this to come out and be known that there was 0:18:17.920 --> 0:18:19.200 a travesty of justice here. 0:18:20.560 --> 0:18:24.600 This false alarm was only a temporary distraction, because a 0:18:24.640 --> 0:18:28.679 few weeks later BTK would remind everyone that he was 0:18:28.760 --> 0:18:33.639 still out there. Here's former Wichita Deputy District Attorney Kevin O'Connor. 0:18:34.960 --> 0:18:37.679 Dennis Raider called a quick trip, told a kid that 0:18:37.760 --> 0:18:41.359 was working there that there was a package in a park, 0:18:41.840 --> 0:18:44.840 gave directions to it, but he gave the wrong directions 0:18:44.960 --> 0:18:47.760 and the police couldn't find it. There was a gentleman 0:18:47.800 --> 0:18:49.919 that was walking through the park about a week or 0:18:49.920 --> 0:18:53.320 so later that saw a package, picked it up, took 0:18:53.359 --> 0:18:53.720 it home. 0:18:55.000 --> 0:18:58.399 This discovery took place on December thirteenth, two thousand and 0:18:58.440 --> 0:19:00.280 four in Murdoch Park. 0:19:01.480 --> 0:19:02.400 He lived with his mother. 0:19:02.880 --> 0:19:07.320 They opened it up and it was a doll purported 0:19:07.359 --> 0:19:10.240 to be Nancy Fox and a description of the Nancy 0:19:10.280 --> 0:19:11.000 Fox murder. 0:19:12.320 --> 0:19:15.880 I spotted Nancy one day while cruising the area, found 0:19:15.920 --> 0:19:18.719 out her name by checking her mailbox, and tracked her 0:19:18.760 --> 0:19:22.399 to work up close. I visited the store where she worked, 0:19:22.840 --> 0:19:23.440 asking for. 0:19:23.440 --> 0:19:28.440 Some jewelry, and they did what all good citizens would 0:19:28.480 --> 0:19:31.920 do in this situation like this. They called KKE TV. 0:19:32.920 --> 0:19:35.440 And I'm being sarcastic because they didn't call the police 0:19:35.480 --> 0:19:38.520 like they probably should have. But they called kke TV 0:19:39.160 --> 0:19:43.199 and KTV reporter went out there, Janine Keasling, who's a 0:19:43.200 --> 0:19:46.159 friend of mine. Janine was the reporter on the street. 0:19:47.040 --> 0:19:50.119 Police have not confirmed this latest package was from the killer, 0:19:50.400 --> 0:19:54.119 but also inside was a note with what previous investigators 0:19:54.119 --> 0:19:57.920 say appears to be BTK signature. We've been asked not 0:19:58.000 --> 0:19:58.600 to show that. 0:20:00.000 --> 0:20:02.879 What ended up happening is is that they wanted to 0:20:03.040 --> 0:20:06.720 film police opening up the things, and the police, of 0:20:06.720 --> 0:20:08.800 course we're not going to let them do it. I 0:20:08.800 --> 0:20:11.040 think that created some animosity. 0:20:13.960 --> 0:20:17.280 I can remember about this time, tensions were rising between 0:20:17.400 --> 0:20:20.600 us in the newsroom and the police. All of us 0:20:20.640 --> 0:20:24.199 wanted to catch BTK, but there were some disagreements about 0:20:24.240 --> 0:20:27.560 what to make public and what to withhold. That would 0:20:27.600 --> 0:20:31.280 become an issue once more when BTK sent a slew 0:20:31.320 --> 0:20:34.359 of new letters toss at KTV. 0:20:35.320 --> 0:20:40.879 It appears BTK is communicating again. KKTV receiving another mysterious 0:20:40.920 --> 0:20:41.800 message today. 0:20:42.160 --> 0:20:45.160 This one contains both a message to Cake and police 0:20:45.160 --> 0:20:48.200 on Janine Keasling, all the exclusive details coming up in 0:20:48.240 --> 0:20:50.240 a live report. 0:20:50.760 --> 0:20:53.720 The first of these was a letter received on January 0:20:53.760 --> 0:20:55.680 twenty fifth, two thousand and five. 0:20:56.320 --> 0:21:00.879 It said date week of January seventeen eight, two thousand 0:21:00.880 --> 0:21:05.080 and five, where between sixty ninth Street North and seventy 0:21:05.160 --> 0:21:10.520 seventh Street North on Seneca Street contents post toasties box, 0:21:11.080 --> 0:21:16.600 PJ Little Mix and doll, punt of KS, acronym list 0:21:16.920 --> 0:21:17.679 and jewelry. 0:21:18.960 --> 0:21:21.600 This time, the Cake news director sent reporters to the 0:21:21.640 --> 0:21:24.800 site to gather the package, which was in fact a 0:21:24.880 --> 0:21:28.359 post hosty cereal box. It contained a list of his 0:21:28.480 --> 0:21:36.280 favorite acronyms, including DBS for death by strangulation and DTPG 0:21:37.040 --> 0:21:41.520 for death to Pretty Girl. It also contained a naked 0:21:41.560 --> 0:21:46.000 barbie doll with a noose around its neck. Police thought 0:21:46.280 --> 0:21:49.720 PJ Littlemechs might be referring to the murder of twelve 0:21:49.760 --> 0:21:53.199 year old Josephinotaro, along with the other three members of 0:21:53.200 --> 0:21:56.879 her family, who were killed in nineteen seventy four. The 0:21:56.960 --> 0:22:00.239 Cake team brought the package back to the station and 0:22:00.280 --> 0:22:02.960 the news director wanted to use it as a bargaining 0:22:02.960 --> 0:22:07.840 ship with the police. 0:22:06.320 --> 0:22:09.960 And the police weren't having that, and it created some difficulties, 0:22:09.960 --> 0:22:12.000 and I even had to get on the phone and 0:22:12.119 --> 0:22:15.920 talk to KKETV saying this is a homicide investigation and 0:22:16.359 --> 0:22:18.280 we were going to get that information one way. 0:22:18.280 --> 0:22:18.640 Or the other. 0:22:19.840 --> 0:22:22.760 Even KKTV anchor Larry Hattiberg thought it was a bad 0:22:22.840 --> 0:22:25.439 idea to keep the new package hostage. 0:22:26.480 --> 0:22:31.520 We had one instance in which a news director started 0:22:31.560 --> 0:22:35.320 to withhold one of the postcards and try to trade 0:22:35.359 --> 0:22:38.679 it for an interview with the police chief. I was 0:22:38.720 --> 0:22:41.720 standing there when he said that I had encouraged him 0:22:41.800 --> 0:22:45.200 not to do that at any time. The police got 0:22:45.280 --> 0:22:49.560 very mad and he came within ten seconds of being 0:22:49.680 --> 0:22:52.439 arrested and hauled them to the jail. 0:22:53.400 --> 0:22:56.280 The situation did create some sourdness. 0:22:57.440 --> 0:23:00.879 So what Cake ended up doing is sending a film 0:23:00.960 --> 0:23:04.920 crew out to where the cereal box was. That created 0:23:04.960 --> 0:23:08.040 some hard feelings since they drove into a potential crime scene. 0:23:08.680 --> 0:23:12.439 They ran over some tracks in the gravel road with 0:23:12.520 --> 0:23:15.800 their car. That's a big no no, and it was 0:23:15.840 --> 0:23:19.560 because the two were a little bit inexperienced. Police are 0:23:19.560 --> 0:23:23.000 probably not happy about that and certainly let us know. 0:23:23.880 --> 0:23:26.800 That was a difficult time. But I also tried to 0:23:26.840 --> 0:23:29.480 take into account the pressure that the media had too, 0:23:30.160 --> 0:23:34.440 the need to be the first reporting. So it was understood, 0:23:34.480 --> 0:23:37.280 but it did create an animosity that hadn't been there before. 0:23:37.560 --> 0:23:40.159 Because I think if you go through this case, you 0:23:40.200 --> 0:23:44.320 see the media doing their best they can to help 0:23:44.520 --> 0:23:47.679 as much as they can and still be responsible journalists. 0:23:48.800 --> 0:23:51.639 My opinion on the matter is this, it was a 0:23:51.760 --> 0:23:54.639 very tricky time for all the media in which it all. 0:23:55.240 --> 0:23:58.199 I agree with Larry as a longtime news anchor, it 0:23:58.280 --> 0:24:01.960 was a very tough balancing app This on one hand, 0:24:02.400 --> 0:24:05.400 was the biggest story any of us would ever cover 0:24:05.520 --> 0:24:08.520 in our career. While we felt the drive to do 0:24:08.600 --> 0:24:11.919 it better than our competitors, we were also aware that 0:24:12.000 --> 0:24:15.560 at this point we were literally partnering with the police 0:24:15.600 --> 0:24:21.639 department to try and catch a killer. After this event, 0:24:21.840 --> 0:24:25.439 we all collectively decided to cut the in fighting. We 0:24:25.480 --> 0:24:28.320 all had a more important job to do and we 0:24:28.400 --> 0:24:32.240 didn't want BTK to win. The next time a BTK 0:24:32.359 --> 0:24:35.280 letter came through, we were all on the same page, 0:24:35.680 --> 0:24:39.480 and that next letter only came about a week later. 0:24:40.600 --> 0:24:44.240 Today's message is aily similar to a postcard Cake received 0:24:44.520 --> 0:24:47.360 last week. Keate Janine Keysling is live outside the Cake 0:24:47.400 --> 0:24:50.440 studios in northwest Wichita, Jenny Well Larry. 0:24:50.440 --> 0:24:52.280 For the second time in just more than a week, 0:24:52.320 --> 0:24:57.040 another possible communication from BTK arrives here at our studios. 0:24:57.280 --> 0:25:00.360 The communications are getting more frequent and a lot more 0:25:00.359 --> 0:25:03.760 personal which top police have asked us not to reveal 0:25:03.840 --> 0:25:07.520 certain information contained in the communications sent to Cake News. 0:25:07.920 --> 0:25:12.880 Investigators are concerned it could hamper the BTK investigation. To date, 0:25:12.960 --> 0:25:15.440 we have honored all of their requests. 0:25:16.280 --> 0:25:22.400 This letter, though, contained a troubling message from BTK, thanks to. 0:25:22.359 --> 0:25:25.840 The news team for their efforts. Sorry about Susan and 0:25:25.920 --> 0:25:26.920 Jeff's colds. 0:25:28.320 --> 0:25:31.080 As we told you about in episode one, Cake was 0:25:31.119 --> 0:25:35.200