1 00:00:10,560 --> 00:00:14,560 Speaker 1: Hey, everybody, welcome to another episode of I Saw What 2 00:00:14,600 --> 00:00:14,920 Speaker 1: You Did. 3 00:00:14,920 --> 00:00:16,560 Speaker 2: My name is Millie to Jericho. 4 00:00:16,800 --> 00:00:19,760 Speaker 3: I'm Danielle Henderson, and we're back. 5 00:00:19,520 --> 00:00:23,320 Speaker 1: With you again to talk about films and film stoves. 6 00:00:24,560 --> 00:00:27,680 Speaker 2: What's up, dude, film stoves stoves? 7 00:00:29,680 --> 00:00:32,559 Speaker 3: You all right? I'm doing good. I'm doing good. I 8 00:00:32,600 --> 00:00:37,320 Speaker 3: had I had a weird encounter with my town or 9 00:00:37,320 --> 00:00:40,200 Speaker 3: in my town, with my town, with the entire town 10 00:00:41,240 --> 00:00:45,080 Speaker 3: kind of kind of. One thing is weird to me 11 00:00:45,159 --> 00:00:47,040 Speaker 3: is like, so I go to the next town over 12 00:00:47,560 --> 00:00:50,600 Speaker 3: frequently to get Duncan Donuts there because they have a 13 00:00:50,680 --> 00:00:51,200 Speaker 3: drive through. 14 00:00:52,320 --> 00:00:54,720 Speaker 1: Should Duncan Donuts just sponsor the show? By the way, 15 00:00:54,760 --> 00:00:55,640 Speaker 1: I feel like they. 16 00:00:55,760 --> 00:00:57,360 Speaker 3: I know, I know, I drink it every day in 17 00:00:57,400 --> 00:01:00,000 Speaker 3: my life, like I would love it. I'm sorry, Dug, 18 00:01:00,320 --> 00:01:05,720 Speaker 3: who's dropping this opportunity to give us some Dunkin Donuts press? Listen? 19 00:01:05,760 --> 00:01:08,800 Speaker 2: I think we should do merch collabo with them. 20 00:01:10,360 --> 00:01:14,319 Speaker 3: I like those orange and pink colors. They work well together. Dude. 21 00:01:14,360 --> 00:01:16,840 Speaker 1: If anybody from Duncan Corporate is listening and you want 22 00:01:16,880 --> 00:01:19,039 Speaker 1: to go in on some sweatpants together, let us know. 23 00:01:19,160 --> 00:01:20,559 Speaker 2: I Saw what you did pot at gmail dot. 24 00:01:20,480 --> 00:01:23,039 Speaker 3: Com just real quick, because I am there every day 25 00:01:23,040 --> 00:01:25,880 Speaker 3: of my fucking life until in my kitchen is done, 26 00:01:25,920 --> 00:01:27,520 Speaker 3: and then I'm not gonna go to Duncan ever. Getting 27 00:01:27,520 --> 00:01:29,120 Speaker 3: I'm kidding, right, I can't say that. If we're trying 28 00:01:29,120 --> 00:01:33,039 Speaker 3: to get sponsored, I will continue to go every day 29 00:01:33,080 --> 00:01:36,680 Speaker 3: only if they sponsor us. So I went to my 30 00:01:38,440 --> 00:01:40,440 Speaker 3: kind of local dunk because they have to drive through. 31 00:01:41,000 --> 00:01:44,319 Speaker 3: And one thing that was very weird to me is 32 00:01:45,040 --> 00:01:47,160 Speaker 3: I kind of I try to fade into the background 33 00:01:47,200 --> 00:01:49,040 Speaker 3: as much as possible as a person, Like I'm not 34 00:01:49,120 --> 00:01:54,040 Speaker 3: outwardly very gregarious, but I am easily identifiable because I 35 00:01:54,080 --> 00:01:56,080 Speaker 3: wear a head wrap every day. I'm six feet tall, 36 00:01:56,280 --> 00:02:00,160 Speaker 3: Like I laugh all the time, like I'm identifiable. Pull 37 00:02:00,200 --> 00:02:01,919 Speaker 3: up to the drive through, which does not have a camera, 38 00:02:01,960 --> 00:02:05,200 Speaker 3: by the way, and I said, you know, my good mornings, 39 00:02:05,200 --> 00:02:07,200 Speaker 3: and I placed my order and said thank you. And 40 00:02:07,240 --> 00:02:10,200 Speaker 3: when I got to the window, there are these three 41 00:02:10,240 --> 00:02:12,560 Speaker 3: women that work there that are hilarious, three young women, 42 00:02:13,440 --> 00:02:16,280 Speaker 3: and one of them said, I love when you pull 43 00:02:16,360 --> 00:02:19,079 Speaker 3: up because we can always tell it's you because you're 44 00:02:19,120 --> 00:02:21,240 Speaker 3: the only person who says please and thank you. 45 00:02:22,160 --> 00:02:22,880 Speaker 2: Oh my god. 46 00:02:23,080 --> 00:02:25,160 Speaker 3: And I was like, what the fuck is going on 47 00:02:25,240 --> 00:02:27,720 Speaker 3: with this world? Where people are just rolling up to 48 00:02:27,880 --> 00:02:30,960 Speaker 3: order things and not even saying please and thank you. 49 00:02:32,080 --> 00:02:34,560 Speaker 2: Damn dude, that is depressing as shit. 50 00:02:34,800 --> 00:02:37,920 Speaker 3: Isn't that bleak as fuck? Like it's not because of 51 00:02:37,960 --> 00:02:40,280 Speaker 3: what I look like, not because of my boys, because 52 00:02:40,320 --> 00:02:41,800 Speaker 3: I say please and thank you. 53 00:02:43,280 --> 00:02:47,280 Speaker 1: I would be incredibly uncomfortable not doing that. 54 00:02:47,720 --> 00:02:48,400 Speaker 3: Do you really? 55 00:02:49,200 --> 00:02:50,440 Speaker 2: Yeah, it's the. 56 00:02:50,480 --> 00:02:52,720 Speaker 3: Least I can literally do where I can just say, hey, 57 00:02:53,880 --> 00:02:57,240 Speaker 3: good morning, how are you? May I please have an 58 00:02:57,440 --> 00:03:00,919 Speaker 3: iced coffee, uh, coffee, whatever it is, thank you so much? 59 00:03:01,200 --> 00:03:03,280 Speaker 3: Like what skin off of my back is that that 60 00:03:03,600 --> 00:03:06,240 Speaker 3: takes nothing. It takes nothing. I would never approach a 61 00:03:06,240 --> 00:03:08,520 Speaker 3: stranger without some kind of platitude. 62 00:03:09,000 --> 00:03:12,040 Speaker 1: Yeah, and you know too, It's like, I feel like 63 00:03:12,720 --> 00:03:14,760 Speaker 1: a lot is said about that kind of thing where 64 00:03:14,760 --> 00:03:18,040 Speaker 1: it's like, what, well, I used to wait tables or 65 00:03:18,080 --> 00:03:18,600 Speaker 1: I used. 66 00:03:18,400 --> 00:03:21,200 Speaker 2: To work in you know, customer service or something. 67 00:03:21,240 --> 00:03:23,760 Speaker 1: You know, I used to work a job where I 68 00:03:23,880 --> 00:03:27,840 Speaker 1: was forward facing, and so I can't imagine not saying 69 00:03:27,840 --> 00:03:29,680 Speaker 1: it to other people who work that job. 70 00:03:30,480 --> 00:03:30,720 Speaker 3: Uh. 71 00:03:30,760 --> 00:03:32,280 Speaker 1: And I know that that gets set a lot, and 72 00:03:32,320 --> 00:03:36,480 Speaker 1: I do that as well. But it's shocking because I 73 00:03:36,640 --> 00:03:39,120 Speaker 1: kept thinking, oh, well, certainly everybody. 74 00:03:38,680 --> 00:03:40,720 Speaker 2: Has had a job like that right. 75 00:03:41,080 --> 00:03:44,280 Speaker 1: Yeah, But I the more I live, I have realized 76 00:03:44,320 --> 00:03:48,080 Speaker 1: there's a lot of people that never worked in food or. 77 00:03:48,120 --> 00:03:51,960 Speaker 3: Oh, any service, any service posision at all. And I think, like, 78 00:03:52,040 --> 00:03:55,520 Speaker 3: I'm not someone who's into forced labor. But instead of 79 00:03:55,560 --> 00:03:58,560 Speaker 3: a gap year, I feel like America could start to 80 00:03:58,600 --> 00:04:02,960 Speaker 3: course correct by insisting that chill that people work for 81 00:04:03,080 --> 00:04:05,320 Speaker 3: a year out of high school in the service industry. 82 00:04:06,320 --> 00:04:10,800 Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm like, well, what did you do in high school? Like, yeah, 83 00:04:10,800 --> 00:04:12,960 Speaker 1: you didn't have a job. I had like two jobs 84 00:04:13,000 --> 00:04:13,680 Speaker 1: in high school. 85 00:04:13,880 --> 00:04:15,920 Speaker 3: I know. It's like so many people that didn't work 86 00:04:15,920 --> 00:04:19,640 Speaker 3: in high school that it is shocking, Like they just 87 00:04:19,640 --> 00:04:20,880 Speaker 3: got money from their parents. 88 00:04:21,640 --> 00:04:25,520 Speaker 1: Yeah, that is super weird. Like, and you know, working 89 00:04:25,560 --> 00:04:29,960 Speaker 1: in corporate America, I was like, oh, everybody here used 90 00:04:30,000 --> 00:04:34,360 Speaker 1: to work at you know, whatever duncan like I did, 91 00:04:34,480 --> 00:04:37,400 Speaker 1: and then they eventually got like this sit down job, 92 00:04:37,440 --> 00:04:41,359 Speaker 1: and people like no, like I came from college and 93 00:04:41,400 --> 00:04:44,200 Speaker 1: then went to grad school and then got an office job. 94 00:04:44,440 --> 00:04:46,160 Speaker 1: And I'm like, what the fuck? 95 00:04:46,240 --> 00:04:46,960 Speaker 2: That's crazy. 96 00:04:47,400 --> 00:04:49,960 Speaker 3: A lot of people that office job is their first 97 00:04:50,200 --> 00:04:55,120 Speaker 3: ever job. Yeah, which is why they're so wildly insane 98 00:04:55,160 --> 00:04:56,880 Speaker 3: about trying to go back to the office because they 99 00:04:56,920 --> 00:04:57,799 Speaker 3: don't know anything. 100 00:04:59,080 --> 00:05:01,640 Speaker 1: Well, these have to me the no please and thank 101 00:05:01,680 --> 00:05:04,960 Speaker 1: you people, right, I mean that's absolutely nuts to me, right. 102 00:05:04,839 --> 00:05:06,560 Speaker 3: And and for me, it's kind of a balance, like 103 00:05:06,600 --> 00:05:08,800 Speaker 3: I've seen I've seen some shit in this drive through, 104 00:05:09,279 --> 00:05:12,800 Speaker 3: and I've seen the the end that's kind of like 105 00:05:13,720 --> 00:05:16,640 Speaker 3: the trucker guys, like the guys who every single guy 106 00:05:16,640 --> 00:05:18,839 Speaker 3: who drives a truck here has a fucking Punisher sticker 107 00:05:18,880 --> 00:05:21,239 Speaker 3: on the back, and I'm like, you're not a comic 108 00:05:21,240 --> 00:05:23,520 Speaker 3: book superhero. You're just some fucking dirt bag that's going 109 00:05:23,560 --> 00:05:27,680 Speaker 3: to work, like calm down. Fuck. So it's like that 110 00:05:27,720 --> 00:05:29,800 Speaker 3: guy who just like has no time to be nice 111 00:05:29,800 --> 00:05:32,240 Speaker 3: to anybody. And I saw this one guy in a 112 00:05:32,279 --> 00:05:33,560 Speaker 3: truck in front of me one day and he was 113 00:05:33,600 --> 00:05:36,640 Speaker 3: given them shit and he was there for a long time, 114 00:05:36,720 --> 00:05:39,640 Speaker 3: like for drive by drive through standards, like five six minutes, 115 00:05:39,920 --> 00:05:41,480 Speaker 3: and so when I pulled up, I'm like, Hey, how's 116 00:05:41,480 --> 00:05:43,239 Speaker 3: it going. Was that guy like giving you the business, 117 00:05:43,279 --> 00:05:46,159 Speaker 3: like just kind of being conversational, and they're like, yeah, 118 00:05:46,200 --> 00:05:49,520 Speaker 3: he ordered the wrong thing, but then took like four 119 00:05:49,560 --> 00:05:52,120 Speaker 3: minutes to yell at us for making him what he ordered, 120 00:05:52,720 --> 00:05:55,240 Speaker 3: instead of just saying, oh, I'm sorry, I meant this. 121 00:05:56,720 --> 00:05:59,120 Speaker 3: He yelled at them for four minutes instead of being like, well, 122 00:05:59,120 --> 00:06:01,280 Speaker 3: this is what they're like, what do you actually want? Like, 123 00:06:01,400 --> 00:06:03,320 Speaker 3: we can make you what you want if you tell us. 124 00:06:03,440 --> 00:06:06,480 Speaker 3: But he would rather take the time to demean and 125 00:06:06,560 --> 00:06:09,440 Speaker 3: yell at them than just say, oh, I completely messed up. 126 00:06:09,640 --> 00:06:11,320 Speaker 3: What I meant was this, dude? 127 00:06:12,120 --> 00:06:15,560 Speaker 2: Honestly, what is happening? What is happening with this? 128 00:06:15,880 --> 00:06:19,520 Speaker 1: First of all, I want you to name a one 129 00:06:19,680 --> 00:06:25,160 Speaker 1: job that is so frantic and chaotic where you can't 130 00:06:25,160 --> 00:06:28,440 Speaker 1: say please and thank you exactly Like I mean, if 131 00:06:28,480 --> 00:06:32,480 Speaker 1: you were performing brain surgery, emergency brain surgery twenty four 132 00:06:32,520 --> 00:06:38,760 Speaker 1: hours a day, like without stopping and no breaks, possibly 133 00:06:39,240 --> 00:06:40,320 Speaker 1: you wouldn't have time. 134 00:06:40,720 --> 00:06:44,159 Speaker 3: Even then you hand me a scalpel, I'm saying thank you. Fuck. 135 00:06:44,320 --> 00:06:46,360 Speaker 2: That is just so so. 136 00:06:46,760 --> 00:06:49,679 Speaker 3: Bleak and yeah. And then the other end of it 137 00:06:49,760 --> 00:06:52,159 Speaker 3: is that person who's never worked service and who is 138 00:06:52,240 --> 00:06:54,440 Speaker 3: just like give me this bye, and like they just 139 00:06:54,520 --> 00:06:57,279 Speaker 3: like take take, take, take, take, But it's and again 140 00:06:57,360 --> 00:07:00,280 Speaker 3: like I am a different kind of person. Not only 141 00:07:00,279 --> 00:07:01,840 Speaker 3: do I say please and thank you, but because I'm 142 00:07:01,880 --> 00:07:05,080 Speaker 3: there so often, I'm always like, you know, hey, what's 143 00:07:05,120 --> 00:07:06,760 Speaker 3: your name? If they're not wearing a name tag or 144 00:07:06,800 --> 00:07:08,320 Speaker 3: like thank you so much, and like every once in 145 00:07:08,360 --> 00:07:11,240 Speaker 3: a while I'll roll through and just like tip them 146 00:07:11,240 --> 00:07:13,520 Speaker 3: twenty bucks because I don't tip every single day or 147 00:07:13,560 --> 00:07:16,000 Speaker 3: don't have cash every single day, but I'll just like 148 00:07:16,040 --> 00:07:18,160 Speaker 3: tip them twenty bucks because no one is tipping, and like, 149 00:07:18,160 --> 00:07:20,320 Speaker 3: I don't know, I just I feel like, you know, 150 00:07:20,360 --> 00:07:22,040 Speaker 3: I do the same thing at the hardware store where 151 00:07:22,080 --> 00:07:24,640 Speaker 3: I'm there so often that I just started like asking 152 00:07:24,640 --> 00:07:26,240 Speaker 3: people like, Hey, what's your name, and thank you so 153 00:07:26,320 --> 00:07:28,440 Speaker 3: much for always being so nice to me and helping me, 154 00:07:28,600 --> 00:07:31,840 Speaker 3: and it just seems normal to me. But I can't believe. 155 00:07:32,040 --> 00:07:34,120 Speaker 3: It's just weird to me that we've gotten to a 156 00:07:34,240 --> 00:07:37,480 Speaker 3: cultural point where kindness is not expected. 157 00:07:38,040 --> 00:07:40,760 Speaker 1: And I just have to say, as somebody who is 158 00:07:40,800 --> 00:07:43,360 Speaker 1: your friend and has known you for a considerable amount 159 00:07:43,360 --> 00:07:47,400 Speaker 1: of time is now your business partner, I can't like 160 00:07:47,480 --> 00:07:51,000 Speaker 1: you are I know that like sometimes you say on 161 00:07:51,080 --> 00:07:53,640 Speaker 1: this podcast that you're grumpy about certain things and that 162 00:07:53,680 --> 00:07:57,560 Speaker 1: you're not. You are one of the friendliest, nicest people 163 00:07:58,200 --> 00:08:01,920 Speaker 1: in public that I think I know, And I mean 164 00:08:01,920 --> 00:08:04,680 Speaker 1: to the point where I'm like, are you sacretly from 165 00:08:04,720 --> 00:08:08,120 Speaker 1: Georgia or the South because you are that friendly to people, 166 00:08:09,240 --> 00:08:11,200 Speaker 1: like you're asking people's names. 167 00:08:11,200 --> 00:08:14,120 Speaker 2: You're like, how's it going, how are you, how's the kid? 168 00:08:14,240 --> 00:08:14,720 Speaker 2: How's this? 169 00:08:14,880 --> 00:08:15,040 Speaker 3: You know? 170 00:08:15,080 --> 00:08:18,560 Speaker 1: And I'm just like, from a woman from New York, 171 00:08:18,760 --> 00:08:21,120 Speaker 1: you sure don't act like it. You act like you're 172 00:08:21,160 --> 00:08:24,679 Speaker 1: from Georgia or you know, South Carolina or someone. 173 00:08:24,920 --> 00:08:28,600 Speaker 2: Some were very very friendly so I am. 174 00:08:28,840 --> 00:08:30,760 Speaker 3: And that that to me is a New York value 175 00:08:30,760 --> 00:08:32,559 Speaker 3: to me, where it's like you see people all the time, 176 00:08:32,679 --> 00:08:34,720 Speaker 3: you just start talking to them, like you just know 177 00:08:34,760 --> 00:08:36,680 Speaker 3: that You're just like, hey, we take the same train 178 00:08:37,200 --> 00:08:39,880 Speaker 3: every day. Yeah, and like you know, I like your 179 00:08:39,880 --> 00:08:42,520 Speaker 3: shoes today, Like you just find a way in and 180 00:08:42,559 --> 00:08:44,160 Speaker 3: then when you see people, you can be friendly in 181 00:08:44,200 --> 00:08:46,199 Speaker 3: wave and it's kind of nice. Yeah. 182 00:08:46,280 --> 00:08:47,120 Speaker 2: I love that too. 183 00:08:47,240 --> 00:08:50,360 Speaker 1: I mean honestly, like when I was when I came 184 00:08:50,440 --> 00:08:53,800 Speaker 1: back to the South from you know whatever, my jaunt 185 00:08:54,120 --> 00:08:55,360 Speaker 1: on the West Coast or whatever. 186 00:08:55,920 --> 00:08:58,280 Speaker 2: I have a friend who owns a restaurant. 187 00:08:58,720 --> 00:09:01,920 Speaker 1: It's like a chicken sandwich place down in downtown, and 188 00:09:03,360 --> 00:09:06,360 Speaker 1: I went in there or like it had been so 189 00:09:06,440 --> 00:09:08,840 Speaker 1: long since I'd been into a business that was owned by. 190 00:09:08,679 --> 00:09:10,800 Speaker 2: My friend, do you know what I mean? Because it's like, yeah, 191 00:09:10,840 --> 00:09:12,160 Speaker 2: I wasn't living now. 192 00:09:12,200 --> 00:09:15,439 Speaker 1: I live where I grew up, so and I went 193 00:09:15,480 --> 00:09:18,760 Speaker 1: in there and like he was there, they called me 194 00:09:18,800 --> 00:09:21,960 Speaker 1: by name, they like hooked me up, gave me some 195 00:09:22,160 --> 00:09:23,840 Speaker 1: free pickles or whatever, and I'm. 196 00:09:23,760 --> 00:09:27,040 Speaker 2: Just like I left and I was like I might cry. 197 00:09:27,400 --> 00:09:27,760 Speaker 3: I don't know. 198 00:09:27,840 --> 00:09:32,720 Speaker 1: I'm so overwhelmed by the friendliness of like just having 199 00:09:32,720 --> 00:09:35,600 Speaker 1: that interaction. And I felt like I had not had 200 00:09:35,640 --> 00:09:38,079 Speaker 1: that just based on like COVID, but also. 201 00:09:37,840 --> 00:09:40,080 Speaker 2: Just sort of like you know, being in the world 202 00:09:40,120 --> 00:09:44,199 Speaker 2: and not having that friendliness with people in businesses. 203 00:09:44,240 --> 00:09:47,319 Speaker 1: And I just was like, I'm going to cry with 204 00:09:47,360 --> 00:09:51,040 Speaker 1: this chicken sandwich right now because I'm just overwhelmed with 205 00:09:51,160 --> 00:09:51,839 Speaker 1: the friendliness. 206 00:09:51,960 --> 00:09:54,240 Speaker 3: So because it's nice, and that's part of it, is 207 00:09:54,240 --> 00:09:57,280 Speaker 3: like you want to be the person you want to 208 00:09:57,280 --> 00:09:59,520 Speaker 3: see in the world. Like I want people to feel 209 00:09:59,520 --> 00:10:02,160 Speaker 3: like they can be friendly with me and they should 210 00:10:02,200 --> 00:10:04,640 Speaker 3: be friendly to each other. And it doesn't have to 211 00:10:04,679 --> 00:10:06,280 Speaker 3: be deep. It doesn't have to be like you know, 212 00:10:06,920 --> 00:10:08,880 Speaker 3: I like your shoes, tell me what your deep starke 213 00:10:08,880 --> 00:10:10,600 Speaker 3: at secret is, or like I'll take you to therapy 214 00:10:10,640 --> 00:10:12,880 Speaker 3: with me, Like it doesn't have to be deep. I 215 00:10:13,040 --> 00:10:14,840 Speaker 3: just I don't want to live in a place where 216 00:10:15,400 --> 00:10:18,800 Speaker 3: people are so outwardly dismissive or cruel to each other. 217 00:10:20,160 --> 00:10:23,200 Speaker 3: Which brings me to my other thing that happened, which 218 00:10:23,200 --> 00:10:25,440 Speaker 3: you know about because I texted you immediately I think, 219 00:10:25,640 --> 00:10:27,280 Speaker 3: actually sent you a voice memo immediately. 220 00:10:27,640 --> 00:10:27,880 Speaker 2: Yes. 221 00:10:28,000 --> 00:10:29,840 Speaker 1: I was like, I know it's serious because it's not 222 00:10:29,880 --> 00:10:31,800 Speaker 1: a text, that's a voice memo. 223 00:10:32,800 --> 00:10:35,960 Speaker 3: Like this motherfucker's talking for two solid minutes. Shit, something 224 00:10:36,000 --> 00:10:38,840 Speaker 3: popped off, dude, I love those. I love voice memos. 225 00:10:38,880 --> 00:10:40,960 Speaker 1: I was like, skip the text and just send me 226 00:10:41,920 --> 00:10:43,640 Speaker 1: a disappearable voice memo. 227 00:10:43,880 --> 00:10:48,079 Speaker 3: It's great and it just disappears without you even having 228 00:10:48,080 --> 00:10:50,480 Speaker 3: to do anything about it. I love it. Yeah, and 229 00:10:50,600 --> 00:10:52,760 Speaker 3: I freaked out, So I ended up writing a letter 230 00:10:52,800 --> 00:10:57,000 Speaker 3: to the editor of our local newspaper where I kind 231 00:10:57,080 --> 00:11:05,040 Speaker 3: of called the town evil. I didn't mean to insinuate 232 00:11:05,120 --> 00:11:08,040 Speaker 3: that everyone was evil, but there's something evil lurking at 233 00:11:08,080 --> 00:11:13,520 Speaker 3: the heart of this very stars hollowish town. And I 234 00:11:13,559 --> 00:11:16,760 Speaker 3: had this interaction with this stranger. I left this coffee shop. 235 00:11:17,320 --> 00:11:19,480 Speaker 3: One of the two coffee shops in town. As I've 236 00:11:19,640 --> 00:11:23,120 Speaker 3: already discussed, it's the one that didn't have the owner 237 00:11:23,160 --> 00:11:26,880 Speaker 3: who went to storm the fucking Capitol on January sixth, Right, 238 00:11:26,960 --> 00:11:33,400 Speaker 3: I remember, it's the not racist one. Jesus, such options. 239 00:11:33,840 --> 00:11:36,120 Speaker 3: Whenever I see anyone sitting in front of that cafe, 240 00:11:36,200 --> 00:11:38,080 Speaker 3: I'm like, so, you're a piece of shit, Like why 241 00:11:38,160 --> 00:11:40,040 Speaker 3: are you giving this man your money? You're a piece 242 00:11:40,080 --> 00:11:43,240 Speaker 3: of shit. So I go to the other one, and 243 00:11:43,240 --> 00:11:47,520 Speaker 3: it's next. It's across the street on the corner from 244 00:11:47,559 --> 00:11:50,720 Speaker 3: the local pharmacy, which has been there for my entire 245 00:11:50,800 --> 00:11:53,400 Speaker 3: life and my grandma still gets her meds there and everything. 246 00:11:53,440 --> 00:11:56,600 Speaker 3: So it's across the street from that, and there's a 247 00:11:56,600 --> 00:11:59,800 Speaker 3: little crosswalk in between. So I leave the coffee shop, 248 00:12:00,200 --> 00:12:02,960 Speaker 3: and as I'm walking towards the crosswalk, there is a 249 00:12:03,120 --> 00:12:07,760 Speaker 3: car parked directly in it, like just directly parked in there. 250 00:12:07,800 --> 00:12:10,560 Speaker 3: It's a one way street, and it's like, whoever's in 251 00:12:10,600 --> 00:12:14,480 Speaker 3: this car is blocking not only traffic but foot traffic. 252 00:12:15,720 --> 00:12:18,280 Speaker 3: So I do and you tell me. I want you 253 00:12:18,400 --> 00:12:21,000 Speaker 3: to tell me if my reaction was appropriate or not. 254 00:12:22,080 --> 00:12:25,080 Speaker 3: This is a stranger. The cars parked completely in the way. 255 00:12:25,760 --> 00:12:29,079 Speaker 3: I walked around the back kind of into the street, 256 00:12:29,280 --> 00:12:31,520 Speaker 3: and then I tapped on her trunk with two fingers 257 00:12:32,480 --> 00:12:34,439 Speaker 3: because there was a guy behind me. As I left 258 00:12:34,480 --> 00:12:37,000 Speaker 3: the coffee shop. I noticed there's a guy behind me 259 00:12:37,040 --> 00:12:39,960 Speaker 3: who was elderly walking to the pharmacy to do whatever 260 00:12:40,000 --> 00:12:42,400 Speaker 3: he's doing. So I tapped on her trunk, like I 261 00:12:42,440 --> 00:12:46,320 Speaker 3: can walk around you, but other people can't. Wow. She 262 00:12:46,480 --> 00:12:50,520 Speaker 3: rolled down her passenger window and proceeded to yell a 263 00:12:50,760 --> 00:12:54,440 Speaker 3: litany of curses at me. You're a fucking asshole for 264 00:12:54,520 --> 00:12:57,720 Speaker 3: doing then blah blah blah, and she's shouting. I walked 265 00:12:57,720 --> 00:12:59,280 Speaker 3: to my car and get in, which is parked on 266 00:12:59,320 --> 00:13:04,440 Speaker 3: the street. Then she gets out of her car, walks 267 00:13:04,480 --> 00:13:08,000 Speaker 3: to my car and starts pounding on the hood. She 268 00:13:08,080 --> 00:13:11,559 Speaker 3: scratched the hood of my car with her rings. Oh, 269 00:13:11,600 --> 00:13:14,240 Speaker 3: and she just pounding on the fucking hood like I 270 00:13:14,280 --> 00:13:17,760 Speaker 3: had run over one of her children. And in all 271 00:13:17,800 --> 00:13:20,360 Speaker 3: this time, she could have moved her car forward and 272 00:13:20,480 --> 00:13:25,480 Speaker 3: out of the crosswalk at least three four times, Like 273 00:13:25,520 --> 00:13:27,840 Speaker 3: all she had to do is move forward three feet, 274 00:13:28,920 --> 00:13:31,559 Speaker 3: that's it. Instead she chooses to get out of her 275 00:13:31,600 --> 00:13:33,680 Speaker 3: car and just start banging on the hood of my car, 276 00:13:33,720 --> 00:13:35,640 Speaker 3: and I just I drove away because I just didn't 277 00:13:35,640 --> 00:13:39,640 Speaker 3: want to deal and she was unhinged. But I wrote 278 00:13:39,679 --> 00:13:41,559 Speaker 3: a letter to the editor of the newspaper because I'm like, 279 00:13:41,600 --> 00:13:43,760 Speaker 3: what is going on in this town that used to 280 00:13:43,840 --> 00:13:47,160 Speaker 3: be at least outwardly friendly and now we have this. 281 00:13:47,360 --> 00:13:49,120 Speaker 3: And I've seen this in other ways, like I've seen 282 00:13:49,120 --> 00:13:51,800 Speaker 3: it at the grocery store, I've seen parents yelling at 283 00:13:52,120 --> 00:13:55,960 Speaker 3: families in the park, like there's just something horrible happening 284 00:13:56,000 --> 00:13:58,880 Speaker 3: in the world right now, and it has seeped into 285 00:13:58,880 --> 00:13:59,360 Speaker 3: this town. 286 00:14:00,920 --> 00:14:06,520 Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm gonna go back to like what your action 287 00:14:07,240 --> 00:14:10,839 Speaker 1: in the moment, which is correct in my opinion. I mean, 288 00:14:11,000 --> 00:14:13,720 Speaker 1: first of all, it's like illegal to park at a crosswalk, 289 00:14:13,840 --> 00:14:16,079 Speaker 1: right because it's like, I don't know, I mean, people 290 00:14:16,080 --> 00:14:18,319 Speaker 1: are walking. What if there was somebody who was using 291 00:14:18,360 --> 00:14:20,760 Speaker 1: a wheelchair or like a stroller. I mean, come on, 292 00:14:21,360 --> 00:14:25,120 Speaker 1: and as a driver, maybe you're up your own ass 293 00:14:25,120 --> 00:14:27,120 Speaker 1: and you don't even really know what's happening. But like 294 00:14:27,320 --> 00:14:30,640 Speaker 1: you know, if you're doing something illegal, if you're in 295 00:14:30,640 --> 00:14:35,680 Speaker 1: somebody's way and somebody tells you that you're in the way, 296 00:14:36,520 --> 00:14:38,640 Speaker 1: I would be like, okay, cool, Yes, yes I was 297 00:14:38,680 --> 00:14:40,840 Speaker 1: not paying attention, and yes I see that there's an 298 00:14:40,840 --> 00:14:43,720 Speaker 1: old man coming down the street wanting to use this 299 00:14:43,760 --> 00:14:44,800 Speaker 1: crosswalk that I'm in. 300 00:14:44,840 --> 00:14:47,920 Speaker 3: And she was texting. That's all she was doing. She 301 00:14:48,040 --> 00:14:48,560 Speaker 3: was texting. 302 00:14:48,840 --> 00:14:52,160 Speaker 1: It's like, but like, honestly, like, as a citizen, right, 303 00:14:52,200 --> 00:14:55,320 Speaker 1: you're sitting here going like, I see a situation that's incorrect. 304 00:14:55,640 --> 00:14:59,200 Speaker 1: I'm gonna lightly suggest, right, a two fingure tap to me. 305 00:15:00,080 --> 00:15:02,320 Speaker 1: So it's fine if somebody did a two finger tap 306 00:15:02,360 --> 00:15:05,960 Speaker 1: on my trunk, if I was in the way, I'd 307 00:15:06,000 --> 00:15:07,240 Speaker 1: be like, oh shit, yes. 308 00:15:07,200 --> 00:15:09,680 Speaker 2: Sorry, sorry, sorry, I see the situation. 309 00:15:10,080 --> 00:15:12,280 Speaker 3: People have done it to me, Like you're parking next 310 00:15:12,280 --> 00:15:14,840 Speaker 3: two clothes, I can't get out that kind of thing. Great, fine, 311 00:15:14,840 --> 00:15:16,720 Speaker 3: I'll move. But see, here's the. 312 00:15:16,680 --> 00:15:18,640 Speaker 1: Thing, like, and I don't know if this is a 313 00:15:18,800 --> 00:15:24,840 Speaker 1: more recent phenomenon maybe, but people do not want to 314 00:15:24,840 --> 00:15:26,760 Speaker 1: be told that they're wrong about some shit like that's 315 00:15:26,800 --> 00:15:28,680 Speaker 1: the thing I find that that's where that's where the 316 00:15:28,800 --> 00:15:30,480 Speaker 1: overreaction from her comes in. 317 00:15:30,560 --> 00:15:32,680 Speaker 2: Is where she's like, who the fuck is this bitch 318 00:15:32,760 --> 00:15:34,600 Speaker 2: touching my property? That's another thing. 319 00:15:34,840 --> 00:15:38,040 Speaker 1: People are really uptight about you touching their property. And 320 00:15:38,080 --> 00:15:40,080 Speaker 1: then she doesn't want to be told that she's wrong 321 00:15:40,080 --> 00:15:43,600 Speaker 1: about something, and she's just like, well, my reaction now 322 00:15:43,720 --> 00:15:46,680 Speaker 1: is to just completely lose it on this woman who 323 00:15:47,080 --> 00:15:49,200 Speaker 1: wasn't doing anything but trying to help me be a 324 00:15:49,200 --> 00:15:51,600 Speaker 1: better person or whatever life. 325 00:15:53,720 --> 00:15:55,640 Speaker 3: She didn't want to help. She doesn't want to be 326 00:15:55,640 --> 00:15:59,400 Speaker 3: a better person. She wants to be the oblivious asshole 327 00:15:59,440 --> 00:16:01,480 Speaker 3: that she is. And I'm like, this is not cool 328 00:16:01,520 --> 00:16:03,920 Speaker 3: to me, Like there is there is so right now, 329 00:16:03,960 --> 00:16:08,440 Speaker 3: there's an elderly man walking behind me and like truly shuffling, 330 00:16:08,800 --> 00:16:11,160 Speaker 3: like he's not like there are no sparks coming out 331 00:16:11,160 --> 00:16:13,480 Speaker 3: of those heels he is shuffling'. And I'm like, if 332 00:16:13,520 --> 00:16:15,960 Speaker 3: he approaches your car, he's gonna have to walk into 333 00:16:16,040 --> 00:16:18,920 Speaker 3: the fucking road. And I don't even know if he 334 00:16:18,960 --> 00:16:21,880 Speaker 3: can see, Like, I don't know anything about this dude 335 00:16:21,920 --> 00:16:24,520 Speaker 3: other than he is walking very slowly and needs some 336 00:16:25,200 --> 00:16:27,280 Speaker 3: at least the cushion of the crosswalk to get to 337 00:16:27,320 --> 00:16:27,960 Speaker 3: where he's going. 338 00:16:28,360 --> 00:16:30,240 Speaker 1: Well, but the problem is too, is that, like you know, 339 00:16:30,760 --> 00:16:33,000 Speaker 1: you being an advocate for this sweet old man, we 340 00:16:33,000 --> 00:16:33,880 Speaker 1: don't know anything about him. 341 00:16:33,880 --> 00:16:36,080 Speaker 3: Maybe he's a murderer we don't know, could be a Nazi, 342 00:16:36,120 --> 00:16:36,520 Speaker 3: we don't know. 343 00:16:36,800 --> 00:16:39,440 Speaker 1: But just as an old man, we don't know his vision, 344 00:16:39,560 --> 00:16:42,280 Speaker 1: we don't know his status, we don't know anything. But 345 00:16:42,440 --> 00:16:44,880 Speaker 1: Dad puts you in this weird position where now you 346 00:16:44,960 --> 00:16:47,600 Speaker 1: could potentially have some kind of weird fucking conflict with 347 00:16:47,640 --> 00:16:49,160 Speaker 1: somebody because you just want to. 348 00:16:49,120 --> 00:16:52,160 Speaker 2: Do the right thing. And I think that is what prevents. 349 00:16:51,840 --> 00:16:55,680 Speaker 1: People from wanting to do the right thing, is they're like, fuck, well, 350 00:16:55,760 --> 00:16:58,640 Speaker 1: if I, you know, tell this person that they're doing 351 00:16:58,640 --> 00:17:01,920 Speaker 1: something wrong, that they are gonna freak out on me. Yeah, 352 00:17:01,960 --> 00:17:04,080 Speaker 1: and it's gonna set off this whole chain of events. 353 00:17:04,119 --> 00:17:07,159 Speaker 1: So I'm gonna stay silent. I'm gonna stay like back 354 00:17:07,400 --> 00:17:09,640 Speaker 1: in the shadows and not help somebody that needs help, 355 00:17:09,680 --> 00:17:13,600 Speaker 1: because the consequence of getting you know, a fucking what 356 00:17:13,640 --> 00:17:14,800 Speaker 1: if this one pulled a gun on you. 357 00:17:14,840 --> 00:17:15,840 Speaker 2: I mean, it's just crazy. 358 00:17:16,040 --> 00:17:18,960 Speaker 3: Everything's crazy right now. And that's why I didn't like 359 00:17:19,040 --> 00:17:21,080 Speaker 3: go to her window and say, Hi, excuse me, you're 360 00:17:21,119 --> 00:17:22,520 Speaker 3: parked in the crosswalk, because she could have pulled a 361 00:17:22,520 --> 00:17:24,960 Speaker 3: gun on me and blown me away right there. I 362 00:17:24,960 --> 00:17:27,600 Speaker 3: didn't want to physically have to talk to a stranger 363 00:17:27,920 --> 00:17:32,080 Speaker 3: who was outwardly already very rude, yeah, in order to 364 00:17:32,119 --> 00:17:34,760 Speaker 3: get her to move out of the way. So I 365 00:17:34,760 --> 00:17:36,640 Speaker 3: did what I thought was the next best thing, which 366 00:17:36,720 --> 00:17:38,520 Speaker 3: was like a light tap on the trunk. Now, if 367 00:17:38,560 --> 00:17:40,720 Speaker 3: i'd broken her windshield or like punched through it like 368 00:17:40,760 --> 00:17:43,879 Speaker 3: fucking thor I understand she'd be pid. It's like if 369 00:17:43,880 --> 00:17:46,880 Speaker 3: I dent in or fucking drunk, But the way she 370 00:17:46,960 --> 00:17:50,320 Speaker 3: was pounding on my car, I'd understand that well. 371 00:17:50,320 --> 00:17:52,720 Speaker 1: But into in other cities, if she if y'all lived 372 00:17:52,720 --> 00:17:54,920 Speaker 1: in a bigger city, she would She's lucky to get 373 00:17:54,920 --> 00:17:56,520 Speaker 1: a two finger tap, if you know what I'm saying, 374 00:17:56,880 --> 00:17:58,399 Speaker 1: Like a lot of people just let you know up 375 00:17:58,400 --> 00:18:00,000 Speaker 1: front that you're in the way, like to just be like, 376 00:18:00,240 --> 00:18:01,520 Speaker 1: fuck you, get out of the way. 377 00:18:02,760 --> 00:18:02,920 Speaker 3: Right. 378 00:18:03,520 --> 00:18:05,440 Speaker 1: The fact that you were even at all nice about 379 00:18:05,480 --> 00:18:07,760 Speaker 1: it and didn't even want to speak to her is 380 00:18:08,080 --> 00:18:11,280 Speaker 1: I think a level of her straight that she should appreciate. 381 00:18:11,240 --> 00:18:13,080 Speaker 3: Right and for all she knows. This is the other 382 00:18:13,119 --> 00:18:15,120 Speaker 3: thing that's wild to me. So her she's face down 383 00:18:15,119 --> 00:18:18,159 Speaker 3: in her phone, not looking behind her. What if I 384 00:18:18,200 --> 00:18:20,359 Speaker 3: had fallen or slipped into her car? Like what if 385 00:18:20,400 --> 00:18:22,560 Speaker 3: I just like flipped and like I had to grab 386 00:18:22,600 --> 00:18:24,520 Speaker 3: onto her car where she gonna come after me like 387 00:18:24,560 --> 00:18:29,280 Speaker 3: a fucking asshole slipping into a car. She didn't know. 388 00:18:29,280 --> 00:18:32,760 Speaker 3: What if I roll it into her fucking car. She 389 00:18:32,840 --> 00:18:35,320 Speaker 3: didn't know. What if I had heelies on and one 390 00:18:35,359 --> 00:18:38,000 Speaker 3: of the heelies popped out when I wasn't expecting it, 391 00:18:38,040 --> 00:18:42,359 Speaker 3: and I grabbed onto her car for balance. She'dn't fucking know. 392 00:18:45,760 --> 00:18:47,520 Speaker 3: But it's just it made me so sad that I 393 00:18:47,600 --> 00:18:50,320 Speaker 3: genuinely wrote a letter and became that person that was like, 394 00:18:50,320 --> 00:18:53,359 Speaker 3: what happened to this town? Because truly, I know what 395 00:18:53,440 --> 00:18:56,080 Speaker 3: has happened to this town. I've been coming back here 396 00:18:56,640 --> 00:18:58,840 Speaker 3: for the you know, the twenty three years that I 397 00:18:58,880 --> 00:19:01,240 Speaker 3: didn't live here. My mother's lived here the whole time. 398 00:19:01,680 --> 00:19:05,200 Speaker 3: I've experienced the changes of this town. And it wasn't 399 00:19:05,440 --> 00:19:09,479 Speaker 3: that great to begin to it, But there wasn't that 400 00:19:09,560 --> 00:19:11,320 Speaker 3: I mean, I wrote a whole book about it wasn't 401 00:19:11,320 --> 00:19:13,440 Speaker 3: that great to begin with, but there was a level 402 00:19:13,520 --> 00:19:16,359 Speaker 3: of kindness and comfort here that is now gone. 403 00:19:16,680 --> 00:19:19,160 Speaker 1: I think that's that's happening all over the place, and 404 00:19:19,600 --> 00:19:23,600 Speaker 1: that's probably why, you know, I always see stickers on 405 00:19:23,640 --> 00:19:27,280 Speaker 1: people's cars and small towns like keep blank weird, keep 406 00:19:27,320 --> 00:19:27,840 Speaker 1: blank r. 407 00:19:27,880 --> 00:19:29,680 Speaker 2: You know, it's like, yeah, because. 408 00:19:30,080 --> 00:19:34,560 Speaker 1: Dick's are coming in and are disrupting all of the vibes. 409 00:19:34,800 --> 00:19:38,040 Speaker 3: So I don't know. My bumper sticker for a warwork 410 00:19:38,040 --> 00:19:41,560 Speaker 3: would be like keep Warwick mildly racist, but mostly nice. 411 00:19:43,480 --> 00:19:46,200 Speaker 3: I feel the longest bumper sticker in the world. Keep 412 00:19:46,240 --> 00:19:52,399 Speaker 3: Warwick super old fashioned, a little bit racist, and lots 413 00:19:52,400 --> 00:19:58,439 Speaker 3: of farms. Let's just keep it that way. But you know, 414 00:19:58,600 --> 00:19:58,920 Speaker 3: it's it. 415 00:19:59,480 --> 00:20:01,439 Speaker 1: It goes by to what you were saying though about 416 00:20:01,520 --> 00:20:05,679 Speaker 1: sort of your instinct to help people, because that is 417 00:20:05,680 --> 00:20:07,760 Speaker 1: something I also noticed about you. Not to make this 418 00:20:07,800 --> 00:20:11,199 Speaker 1: all about my observations of you, but I do believe 419 00:20:11,200 --> 00:20:13,400 Speaker 1: that you're the type of person that wants to make things. 420 00:20:13,240 --> 00:20:16,080 Speaker 3: Right, and I've seen it in action, like I've seen you. 421 00:20:15,760 --> 00:20:20,439 Speaker 1: Call out some bullshit in public, and you know, the 422 00:20:20,560 --> 00:20:23,639 Speaker 1: instinct to do it seems so natural. Like I'm just 423 00:20:23,640 --> 00:20:25,480 Speaker 1: sort of like, of course, you want the best for people, 424 00:20:25,600 --> 00:20:27,879 Speaker 1: especially elderly people, and may come on like you have 425 00:20:28,400 --> 00:20:32,680 Speaker 1: you know, you're you're so kind towards, you know, people 426 00:20:32,760 --> 00:20:35,040 Speaker 1: who are struggling and people who are older and people 427 00:20:35,080 --> 00:20:37,800 Speaker 1: who just you know, people who just aren't like out 428 00:20:37,800 --> 00:20:43,399 Speaker 1: in these streets like nimble and basically running around with 429 00:20:43,480 --> 00:20:46,280 Speaker 1: fucking platform feel a sneakers on and shit. 430 00:20:47,560 --> 00:20:49,960 Speaker 3: Like I help you, you got on platform feel a 431 00:20:50,000 --> 00:20:52,760 Speaker 3: sneakers you can't walk in those, I'll hold the door 432 00:20:52,800 --> 00:20:55,520 Speaker 3: for you. But yeah, I do I do, and again 433 00:20:55,560 --> 00:20:57,960 Speaker 3: it comes naturally to me just because that's it just does. 434 00:20:58,040 --> 00:21:00,359 Speaker 3: I can't even explain it, but I yeah, you know, 435 00:21:00,400 --> 00:21:02,600 Speaker 3: I can't tell you how many times in LA I've 436 00:21:02,600 --> 00:21:04,639 Speaker 3: seen someone struggling and been like, do you want me 437 00:21:04,720 --> 00:21:06,199 Speaker 3: to push you in your wheelchair as far as you 438 00:21:06,240 --> 00:21:08,240 Speaker 3: need to go? Like I don't have it, I'll take 439 00:21:08,240 --> 00:21:10,200 Speaker 3: the time you want to go two blocks away, I'll 440 00:21:10,200 --> 00:21:11,320 Speaker 3: push you like I don't care. 441 00:21:11,920 --> 00:21:12,240 Speaker 2: Yeah. 442 00:21:12,400 --> 00:21:14,600 Speaker 1: But at the same time too, it's like that that 443 00:21:14,760 --> 00:21:16,960 Speaker 1: is like what I love about you, but it also 444 00:21:17,160 --> 00:21:19,840 Speaker 1: like weirdly makes me worry about you sometimes because again, 445 00:21:19,960 --> 00:21:21,719 Speaker 1: like now, what if you come in contact with some 446 00:21:21,840 --> 00:21:23,960 Speaker 1: like fucking lunatic who's like. 447 00:21:24,000 --> 00:21:27,439 Speaker 2: Yeah, fuck you with your help. I don't you know, 448 00:21:27,640 --> 00:21:28,399 Speaker 2: Like I don't know. 449 00:21:28,480 --> 00:21:31,080 Speaker 1: I just am like I want you to continue like 450 00:21:31,119 --> 00:21:33,800 Speaker 1: being yourself and being a nice person and helping people. 451 00:21:33,840 --> 00:21:39,439 Speaker 2: But it's sad that that behavior is seen as aggressive 452 00:21:39,480 --> 00:21:40,120 Speaker 2: to certain people. 453 00:21:40,160 --> 00:21:42,840 Speaker 3: I don't know what that is, and I have the 454 00:21:42,880 --> 00:21:45,679 Speaker 3: temperate I think you're absolutely right that now I'm realizing 455 00:21:45,920 --> 00:21:48,240 Speaker 3: this is not a world. It doesn't mean I have 456 00:21:48,280 --> 00:21:50,480 Speaker 3: to stop doing kind things, but this is not a 457 00:21:50,480 --> 00:21:53,600 Speaker 3: world where I can expect that it will be met 458 00:21:53,640 --> 00:21:56,600 Speaker 3: with kindness in return, And so I just have to 459 00:21:56,680 --> 00:21:58,959 Speaker 3: kind of pick and choose where. Like the next time 460 00:21:58,960 --> 00:22:01,080 Speaker 3: I see someone parked in the mid a crosswalk, I'm 461 00:22:01,080 --> 00:22:04,160 Speaker 3: not saying shit. And if I see an older person 462 00:22:04,200 --> 00:22:05,920 Speaker 3: behind me trying to get across, what I'll do is 463 00:22:05,960 --> 00:22:08,359 Speaker 3: I will wait and help them instead of talking to 464 00:22:08,400 --> 00:22:09,560 Speaker 3: the asshole in the car. 465 00:22:10,520 --> 00:22:12,960 Speaker 1: Well, yeah, and it's just really like again, I think 466 00:22:13,000 --> 00:22:14,920 Speaker 1: it comes from a place where people just don't want 467 00:22:14,920 --> 00:22:16,439 Speaker 1: to be told anything about themselves. 468 00:22:16,480 --> 00:22:18,560 Speaker 2: They don't want to they don't want to feel like 469 00:22:18,560 --> 00:22:19,639 Speaker 2: they're doing anything wrong. 470 00:22:19,880 --> 00:22:22,399 Speaker 1: They don't want to take responsibility for Like it's not 471 00:22:22,480 --> 00:22:25,160 Speaker 1: as if she was like some evil person perhaps, but 472 00:22:25,240 --> 00:22:28,080 Speaker 1: like her just thoughtlessness, just being thoughtless and in the 473 00:22:28,119 --> 00:22:31,600 Speaker 1: moment and texting instead of realizing where she was right 474 00:22:31,680 --> 00:22:34,120 Speaker 1: right right, But you know, she doesn't want to take 475 00:22:34,160 --> 00:22:37,200 Speaker 1: responsibility for that, And in fact, she turns the situation 476 00:22:37,320 --> 00:22:39,960 Speaker 1: on you and says it's like you're the aggressor, you're 477 00:22:40,520 --> 00:22:43,320 Speaker 1: you know, attacking her or whatever the fuck. And that's 478 00:22:43,359 --> 00:22:48,480 Speaker 1: just scary. It's just scary to think that that could turn. 479 00:22:48,320 --> 00:22:51,640 Speaker 3: So easily completely Well, I just think I'm gonna keep 480 00:22:51,640 --> 00:22:53,560 Speaker 3: saying please and thank you With the drive through. I'm 481 00:22:53,600 --> 00:22:56,040 Speaker 3: gonna keep keep being kind to people where I see 482 00:22:56,040 --> 00:22:58,560 Speaker 3: that I can be kind to people, yes, because it 483 00:22:58,560 --> 00:23:00,000 Speaker 3: takes no time out of my day to do that, 484 00:23:00,320 --> 00:23:02,640 Speaker 3: and I just hope that maybe more people will start 485 00:23:02,640 --> 00:23:04,720 Speaker 3: doing that and we'll all calm the fuck down. 486 00:23:05,920 --> 00:23:07,680 Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm just I'm I really am. 487 00:23:07,720 --> 00:23:09,920 Speaker 1: I think as I've gotten older, I've really like leaned 488 00:23:09,960 --> 00:23:13,760 Speaker 1: into sort of like base level kindness with like public interactions, 489 00:23:13,960 --> 00:23:16,399 Speaker 1: because I think when I was a younger person, I 490 00:23:16,520 --> 00:23:18,040 Speaker 1: definitely had an attitude about some shit. 491 00:23:18,080 --> 00:23:19,960 Speaker 2: Like I would come into a public situation. 492 00:23:19,600 --> 00:23:22,920 Speaker 1: And be like, Okay, well I'm you know, like I'm 493 00:23:22,920 --> 00:23:25,040 Speaker 1: a bitch, I'm a boss bitch. 494 00:23:25,400 --> 00:23:28,440 Speaker 3: I'm just envisioning you like kicking through some levele doors 495 00:23:28,440 --> 00:23:29,920 Speaker 3: and me and like, I'm a bitch, I'm a lover, 496 00:23:30,040 --> 00:23:32,320 Speaker 3: I'm a child, I'm a mother, I'm a sinner and 497 00:23:32,359 --> 00:23:37,080 Speaker 3: a saint. Get the fuck out my way. You never 498 00:23:37,119 --> 00:23:40,480 Speaker 3: met Mellie to shirko, Yeah, but you're about to god 499 00:23:40,960 --> 00:23:45,359 Speaker 3: that I think of that. That is so not me, 500 00:23:45,800 --> 00:23:49,359 Speaker 3: Like that that vibe is so not me. I'm not sad. 501 00:23:49,920 --> 00:23:51,840 Speaker 3: And then in return I will say about you that 502 00:23:51,920 --> 00:23:55,520 Speaker 3: I have also witnessed you're the nicest person. You will 503 00:23:55,520 --> 00:23:59,120 Speaker 3: strike up a conversation with anyone. Oh god, you always 504 00:23:59,119 --> 00:24:02,680 Speaker 3: give a good life. I have like even because I remember, 505 00:24:02,800 --> 00:24:04,480 Speaker 3: like early on in our hanging out, like you would 506 00:24:04,480 --> 00:24:05,960 Speaker 3: look at me like I was nuts when I would 507 00:24:06,000 --> 00:24:09,119 Speaker 3: talk to people, And now you like kind of stand 508 00:24:09,160 --> 00:24:10,439 Speaker 3: back a little bit and be like, I don't know 509 00:24:10,440 --> 00:24:12,720 Speaker 3: where this is going. You're always like ready to take 510 00:24:12,760 --> 00:24:18,119 Speaker 3: the knife out. But then when people do talk with you, 511 00:24:18,200 --> 00:24:20,679 Speaker 3: or when you do talk with people, you're so kind 512 00:24:20,720 --> 00:24:24,080 Speaker 3: and you ask questions and you're generous, and like that 513 00:24:24,240 --> 00:24:25,760 Speaker 3: is who I know you to be. I don't know 514 00:24:25,800 --> 00:24:27,960 Speaker 3: you to be the like kind of you know, stuck 515 00:24:28,040 --> 00:24:29,520 Speaker 3: up like don't talk to me, motherfucker. 516 00:24:29,960 --> 00:24:30,440 Speaker 2: Yeah. 517 00:24:30,640 --> 00:24:33,760 Speaker 1: No, I appreciate that because I feel like that came 518 00:24:33,800 --> 00:24:38,800 Speaker 1: from my dad unfortunately, like like where he's like, mister, 519 00:24:38,960 --> 00:24:42,399 Speaker 1: I'm gonna tell you literally every personal detail of my 520 00:24:42,480 --> 00:24:46,040 Speaker 1: life to like yeah the woman at Chipotle, Like he 521 00:24:46,680 --> 00:24:49,240 Speaker 1: doesn't give a shit, and I would. I used to 522 00:24:49,280 --> 00:24:50,720 Speaker 1: be like, oh my god, I can't believe my dad 523 00:24:50,760 --> 00:24:52,760 Speaker 1: is going off like this, But now I'm like, holy fuck, 524 00:24:53,440 --> 00:24:54,000 Speaker 1: I'm not guy. 525 00:24:54,080 --> 00:24:56,520 Speaker 3: Now I'm my dad. Where I'm just like, hey, what's 526 00:24:56,560 --> 00:24:59,000 Speaker 3: going on? Yeah, you know, I adore it and I 527 00:24:59,080 --> 00:25:01,840 Speaker 3: think we need more it and not less of it. 528 00:25:01,960 --> 00:25:04,880 Speaker 3: But be careful if you're doing it, because people out 529 00:25:04,920 --> 00:25:06,320 Speaker 3: here are fucking wild right. 530 00:25:06,240 --> 00:25:15,560 Speaker 2: Now, speaking of dads, yeah, and. 531 00:25:15,480 --> 00:25:17,920 Speaker 3: Fucking wild dads. Mm hmmm. 532 00:25:18,359 --> 00:25:23,640 Speaker 2: So we have a theme this week that I. 533 00:25:23,600 --> 00:25:28,200 Speaker 1: Will say, first of all, it was you know, it's again, 534 00:25:28,240 --> 00:25:30,920 Speaker 1: we have another holiday coming up, right, we have a 535 00:25:31,000 --> 00:25:35,480 Speaker 1: we have a celebration of fathers coming up. And uh 536 00:25:35,560 --> 00:25:37,840 Speaker 1: we knew that obviously, and we were like, hey, we 537 00:25:38,119 --> 00:25:42,160 Speaker 1: should do something around Father's Day. And then Danielle came 538 00:25:42,320 --> 00:25:44,879 Speaker 1: up with the name of this theme and it was 539 00:25:45,000 --> 00:25:48,800 Speaker 1: in the calendar with no movies attached for like six months, 540 00:25:50,760 --> 00:25:53,160 Speaker 1: and every time I would go look at our shared document, 541 00:25:53,200 --> 00:25:57,000 Speaker 1: I'd be like, what is this? This is like theme 542 00:25:57,119 --> 00:26:00,320 Speaker 1: that's just dangling out there on the document and it 543 00:26:00,359 --> 00:26:04,160 Speaker 1: would make me laugh every single fucking time. So, Danyelle, 544 00:26:04,200 --> 00:26:07,040 Speaker 1: tell the people what the name of the theme. 545 00:26:06,840 --> 00:26:10,719 Speaker 3: Is this week. Our theme this week is dad murdered someone. 546 00:26:13,480 --> 00:26:20,399 Speaker 3: I want happy Father's Day, dad murdered someone. Yeah. 547 00:26:20,440 --> 00:26:23,160 Speaker 1: So last year when we did Father's Day, our theme 548 00:26:23,200 --> 00:26:24,159 Speaker 1: was robot dads. 549 00:26:24,480 --> 00:26:26,800 Speaker 3: Yeah, and we loved it. 550 00:26:26,920 --> 00:26:33,359 Speaker 1: We did RoboCop and Terminator to Judgment Day and it 551 00:26:33,400 --> 00:26:35,919 Speaker 1: was a blast, and we got to talk about robot dads, 552 00:26:35,960 --> 00:26:38,000 Speaker 1: which are very important. But you know, now we have 553 00:26:38,160 --> 00:26:43,359 Speaker 1: another side to fatherhood, which is sometimes father's murder people. 554 00:26:44,440 --> 00:26:47,520 Speaker 3: Yeah, a lot, a lot, And uh. 555 00:26:47,760 --> 00:26:51,480 Speaker 1: Honestly, I can't think of two better movies that properly 556 00:26:51,560 --> 00:26:53,080 Speaker 1: display this. 557 00:26:53,040 --> 00:26:54,640 Speaker 2: Concept than the ones. 558 00:26:54,480 --> 00:26:57,720 Speaker 3: That we picked. Well, I will. I will also remind 559 00:26:57,760 --> 00:27:01,120 Speaker 3: people that I've never met my dad, so a lot 560 00:27:01,160 --> 00:27:05,159 Speaker 3: of my dad feelings are maybe unhinged, maybe they come 561 00:27:05,200 --> 00:27:08,199 Speaker 3: out of nowhere, because all I know of dads is 562 00:27:08,320 --> 00:27:12,040 Speaker 3: other people's dads and movies like I don't know, like 563 00:27:12,160 --> 00:27:15,400 Speaker 3: the dads I've met and movies that's it. I've never 564 00:27:15,440 --> 00:27:18,520 Speaker 3: met my dad. So the concept that I love about 565 00:27:18,560 --> 00:27:22,399 Speaker 3: this theme, this dad murdered someone is that, for some reason, 566 00:27:22,560 --> 00:27:24,639 Speaker 3: I feel like a lot of movies tend to present 567 00:27:25,280 --> 00:27:28,919 Speaker 3: parents in general, but fathers in particular, as always on 568 00:27:29,040 --> 00:27:33,320 Speaker 3: the edge of going fucking nuts, Like parenthood is so 569 00:27:33,440 --> 00:27:36,880 Speaker 3: intense for them, yeah, that they will eventually snap. 570 00:27:37,440 --> 00:27:40,600 Speaker 1: Yes, And I have to say, from the other side 571 00:27:40,600 --> 00:27:44,800 Speaker 1: of the coin, I know my dad. He's in my 572 00:27:44,880 --> 00:27:49,399 Speaker 1: life almost every day. And I still fucking think of 573 00:27:49,560 --> 00:27:50,840 Speaker 1: Dad's as being unhinged. 574 00:27:51,000 --> 00:27:57,880 Speaker 2: Like to me, I feel like. 575 00:27:55,280 --> 00:27:56,920 Speaker 1: Like I was like, Oh, I had a really nice 576 00:27:57,000 --> 00:27:59,040 Speaker 1: dad that was there the entire time I was alive, 577 00:27:59,080 --> 00:28:00,000 Speaker 1: And I still think. 578 00:27:59,840 --> 00:28:06,120 Speaker 3: He could fucking kill somebody. Not gonna lie. He still 579 00:28:06,119 --> 00:28:07,919 Speaker 3: got it in him. He still got it in him, 580 00:28:07,960 --> 00:28:10,959 Speaker 3: just bubbling under the surface. Oh completely, completely, Oh good, 581 00:28:11,000 --> 00:28:12,600 Speaker 3: And your dad was in the military, so that like 582 00:28:12,680 --> 00:28:15,760 Speaker 3: doubles down on you might have already killed somebody. Who 583 00:28:15,840 --> 00:28:16,480 Speaker 3: have you ever. 584 00:28:16,359 --> 00:28:19,720 Speaker 1: Asked, Oh, listen, here's the thing about my dad in 585 00:28:19,760 --> 00:28:21,240 Speaker 1: the military, Okay. 586 00:28:21,480 --> 00:28:22,080 Speaker 3: I was. 587 00:28:22,280 --> 00:28:25,560 Speaker 1: I would frequently be like, Dad, did you go to Vietnam? 588 00:28:25,760 --> 00:28:27,359 Speaker 1: Did you blow up buildings? 589 00:28:27,359 --> 00:28:27,800 Speaker 3: Like what'd you do? 590 00:28:27,840 --> 00:28:29,600 Speaker 2: And He's like, no, I sat in an office for 591 00:28:29,600 --> 00:28:34,280 Speaker 2: forty years and did not planning planning that. 592 00:28:34,280 --> 00:28:35,120 Speaker 3: I was like, what is. 593 00:28:35,119 --> 00:28:35,879 Speaker 2: Planning, Dad? 594 00:28:36,240 --> 00:28:39,120 Speaker 1: I don't know, just a very you know, varied things 595 00:28:39,200 --> 00:28:43,480 Speaker 1: like you know, bringing boxes to this place. I'm like, okay, 596 00:28:43,560 --> 00:28:50,120 Speaker 1: so you your military time was not zero dark thirty. 597 00:28:50,200 --> 00:28:51,840 Speaker 3: That's what you're telling me. You're telling me where he 598 00:28:52,120 --> 00:28:53,560 Speaker 3: was and he's trying to cover. 599 00:28:56,120 --> 00:28:58,600 Speaker 1: My dad is like one of the nicest people of 600 00:28:58,640 --> 00:29:00,440 Speaker 1: all time, probably too fault. 601 00:29:00,480 --> 00:29:03,600 Speaker 2: Sometimes that doesn't mean he couldn't murder someone. 602 00:29:03,840 --> 00:29:07,120 Speaker 1: I mean, just him being extremely nice in fact is 603 00:29:07,280 --> 00:29:11,240 Speaker 1: real Susa. I hate say it, Dad, I love you, 604 00:29:11,320 --> 00:29:14,960 Speaker 1: but you know your demeanor is also sus for murdering. 605 00:29:15,160 --> 00:29:18,920 Speaker 3: I'm just which is kind of evident in your film. Yes, 606 00:29:19,880 --> 00:29:23,360 Speaker 3: for sure, Like we're a little too nice right now. 607 00:29:23,560 --> 00:29:27,160 Speaker 3: We needn't start checking this air the surrounding area. Yeah, 608 00:29:27,280 --> 00:29:30,960 Speaker 3: doesn't need like family like rampage killers going on here. 609 00:29:31,160 --> 00:29:34,520 Speaker 2: And listen your movie again a first time watch for me? 610 00:29:35,480 --> 00:29:35,560 Speaker 4: What? 611 00:29:36,360 --> 00:29:36,880 Speaker 3: Oh yes? 612 00:29:37,400 --> 00:29:40,440 Speaker 1: And it's shameful because I'm a huge fan of the 613 00:29:40,520 --> 00:29:42,960 Speaker 1: director at slash lead actor of your film, and I 614 00:29:43,040 --> 00:29:45,440 Speaker 1: never saw this but he was nice. 615 00:29:45,200 --> 00:29:47,960 Speaker 3: Too, and then he wasn't. Oh yeah, and then he 616 00:29:48,040 --> 00:29:49,920 Speaker 3: was nice in a very creepy way. 617 00:29:50,440 --> 00:29:52,719 Speaker 1: Well, I listen. I'm so excited to talk about these 618 00:29:52,720 --> 00:29:54,880 Speaker 1: films this week. I think the theme is really fun. 619 00:29:55,000 --> 00:29:57,280 Speaker 1: I'm so glad that we finally have movies for this 620 00:29:57,400 --> 00:29:59,920 Speaker 1: dangling theme that was just in a document. 621 00:30:00,120 --> 00:30:01,960 Speaker 2: You're like you're scrolling a sheet and you're like, Dad 622 00:30:02,040 --> 00:30:04,600 Speaker 2: murdered someone? Huh what is that again? 623 00:30:04,960 --> 00:30:05,600 Speaker 3: Who murdered? 624 00:30:06,760 --> 00:30:07,280 Speaker 2: We're doing this? 625 00:30:07,320 --> 00:30:09,800 Speaker 3: This is a theme? Is this something she found out. 626 00:30:10,000 --> 00:30:14,680 Speaker 1: This is an accidental least an accidental secret that just 627 00:30:14,720 --> 00:30:16,880 Speaker 1: got revealed on a Google document. 628 00:30:18,160 --> 00:30:21,560 Speaker 3: Also, I want to know if your dad still speaks 629 00:30:21,600 --> 00:30:27,080 Speaker 3: fluent Italian because I've been popping back into my opera lately. Yes, 630 00:30:27,080 --> 00:30:29,320 Speaker 3: and I need to know if I'm pronouncing some things 631 00:30:29,320 --> 00:30:31,840 Speaker 3: correctly when I am and shout singing. 632 00:30:32,320 --> 00:30:36,160 Speaker 1: Yes, he definitely speaks fluent Italian, and we'll do it 633 00:30:36,400 --> 00:30:38,800 Speaker 1: with anybody Italian that he meets in public. 634 00:30:41,040 --> 00:30:42,880 Speaker 3: He's like, let me test this out, and then he 635 00:30:42,880 --> 00:30:45,560 Speaker 3: starts speaking Italian and they're like, sir, I'm from bay Ridge, 636 00:30:45,880 --> 00:30:48,840 Speaker 3: Like I, I just work at Olive Garden. I don't 637 00:30:48,880 --> 00:30:54,360 Speaker 3: speak Italian when you're here your family, but we are 638 00:30:54,400 --> 00:30:56,440 Speaker 3: family that does not communicate with Italian. 639 00:30:57,320 --> 00:30:59,360 Speaker 1: Listen, but when it comes to like let's get on 640 00:30:59,360 --> 00:31:01,440 Speaker 1: a zoom call, he will help you out all. 641 00:31:01,400 --> 00:31:02,240 Speaker 2: Kinds of pronunciation. 642 00:31:02,840 --> 00:31:05,040 Speaker 3: Oh my god, I would be so excited. Okay, the 643 00:31:05,040 --> 00:31:06,920 Speaker 3: next time you go hang with your parents, we'll have 644 00:31:06,960 --> 00:31:09,680 Speaker 3: to zoom call and I'll keep a list and be like, 645 00:31:09,680 --> 00:31:13,520 Speaker 3: all right, am I pronouncing po correctly? You're like, what is? 646 00:31:14,000 --> 00:31:16,640 Speaker 3: What is? What am I doing here? YEA Mozart would 647 00:31:16,680 --> 00:31:19,960 Speaker 3: be pissed. Yeah, he'll help you out, no problem. I 648 00:31:19,960 --> 00:31:22,239 Speaker 3: can't wait. I'm so glad you know you're dad and 649 00:31:22,320 --> 00:31:25,880 Speaker 3: have it. Have a dad, and again, Happy Father's Day. 650 00:31:25,960 --> 00:31:32,480 Speaker 3: Let's get into some murder, murdering dead. My film was 651 00:31:32,520 --> 00:31:36,400 Speaker 3: released in two thousand and one. It was directed by 652 00:31:36,400 --> 00:31:41,320 Speaker 3: Bill Paxton, the screenplays by Brett Hanley, and the title 653 00:31:41,360 --> 00:31:43,920 Speaker 3: of my film is Frailty. 654 00:31:43,920 --> 00:31:47,280 Speaker 1: I've got something to tell you. There are demons among us. 655 00:31:48,400 --> 00:31:51,280 Speaker 3: I can see the demons while other people can. I'm 656 00:31:51,320 --> 00:31:55,040 Speaker 3: scared dead. So first time watch, let's do the checklist 657 00:31:55,880 --> 00:32:04,520 Speaker 3: from the two thousands stressful, correct, childhood trauma, sha, childhood trauma, 658 00:32:04,920 --> 00:32:05,960 Speaker 3: maybe gave me nightmares? 659 00:32:06,720 --> 00:32:09,320 Speaker 2: Definitely, all all check. 660 00:32:09,160 --> 00:32:13,840 Speaker 3: Marks, of course, so my record remains strong. 661 00:32:14,320 --> 00:32:18,040 Speaker 1: Oh my god, you are you know, one hundred for 662 00:32:18,080 --> 00:32:20,400 Speaker 1: one hundred at this point, you're just really you really 663 00:32:20,720 --> 00:32:24,400 Speaker 1: haven't strayed far from your intention to give me a 664 00:32:24,440 --> 00:32:25,600 Speaker 1: fucking heart attack? 665 00:32:27,640 --> 00:32:29,680 Speaker 3: Well to tell me, so I'm going to give I'll 666 00:32:29,680 --> 00:32:31,760 Speaker 3: give my one sentence synopsis in a little summary of 667 00:32:31,760 --> 00:32:34,560 Speaker 3: the film. But then I really I want to know 668 00:32:35,400 --> 00:32:37,080 Speaker 3: what you thought of this film before I get into 669 00:32:37,120 --> 00:32:40,000 Speaker 3: some more info about it. So my one sentence synopsis 670 00:32:40,000 --> 00:32:43,640 Speaker 3: a frailty. When a single father of two starts calling 671 00:32:43,640 --> 00:32:47,040 Speaker 3: people demons and killing them, a teenage boy has to 672 00:32:47,080 --> 00:32:50,760 Speaker 3: decide if his father has lost his mind or truly 673 00:32:50,800 --> 00:32:52,280 Speaker 3: hears the word of God. 674 00:32:52,680 --> 00:32:56,240 Speaker 1: Excellent excellent synopsis. 675 00:32:56,880 --> 00:33:00,080 Speaker 3: So this film is set in nineteen seventy nine and 676 00:33:00,240 --> 00:33:02,719 Speaker 3: it's about the Meek's family. And the Meek's family is 677 00:33:03,640 --> 00:33:06,840 Speaker 3: the father character who's just called Dad, played by Bill Paxton, 678 00:33:07,720 --> 00:33:12,200 Speaker 3: and these two young boys, Fenton Meeks who's thirteen, and 679 00:33:12,320 --> 00:33:15,880 Speaker 3: his younger brother Adam, who's like three years younger than 680 00:33:15,920 --> 00:33:20,440 Speaker 3: he is, and they have their mom died giving birth 681 00:33:20,480 --> 00:33:22,680 Speaker 3: to Adam, so it's kind of always been these three, 682 00:33:23,160 --> 00:33:25,200 Speaker 3: and Fenton is sort of the caretaker of the family, 683 00:33:25,240 --> 00:33:27,720 Speaker 3: like he makes dinner and even though he's a teenage boy, 684 00:33:27,760 --> 00:33:30,000 Speaker 3: it's nineteen seventy nine, and he kind of like helps out. 685 00:33:30,040 --> 00:33:32,600 Speaker 3: And they live behind this rose garden in town and 686 00:33:32,640 --> 00:33:36,640 Speaker 3: it's set in Texas, and his dad's a mechanic. So 687 00:33:36,800 --> 00:33:40,520 Speaker 3: but what really happens is that this dad is really 688 00:33:40,640 --> 00:33:45,560 Speaker 3: loving and kind and attentive, and then one day out 689 00:33:45,560 --> 00:33:49,600 Speaker 3: of nowhere, he wakes them up at night and basically says, hey, 690 00:33:50,400 --> 00:33:54,400 Speaker 3: so this angel came to me, and God wants me 691 00:33:54,480 --> 00:33:58,680 Speaker 3: to start killing demons, and he's going to send us 692 00:33:58,680 --> 00:34:01,040 Speaker 3: a list when the time comes, and he's going to 693 00:34:01,080 --> 00:34:03,160 Speaker 3: show us some secret weapons that we have to use 694 00:34:03,200 --> 00:34:12,480 Speaker 3: to kill them ninety nine and Fenton from Jump is like, 695 00:34:12,640 --> 00:34:16,319 Speaker 3: this is not okay. Adam is young enough and kind 696 00:34:16,360 --> 00:34:19,080 Speaker 3: of innocent enough to be like cool, I love my dad. 697 00:34:19,120 --> 00:34:20,719 Speaker 3: I'll help him do whatever he needs to do, but 698 00:34:20,800 --> 00:34:25,200 Speaker 3: Fenton is not on board, and so we do see 699 00:34:25,200 --> 00:34:28,480 Speaker 3: that he kind of he prefaces all of this murder 700 00:34:29,040 --> 00:34:32,520 Speaker 3: with it's kind of cloaked under the the auspices that 701 00:34:32,560 --> 00:34:36,120 Speaker 3: he's helping God, and he eventually comes to be known 702 00:34:36,160 --> 00:34:39,600 Speaker 3: as the God's hand Killer because there's a note left 703 00:34:39,640 --> 00:34:42,560 Speaker 3: with the first body that the FBI finds, but then 704 00:34:42,600 --> 00:34:45,440 Speaker 3: there's never another body again, so they just kind of 705 00:34:45,520 --> 00:34:48,520 Speaker 3: know this guy is like killing people and leaving notes, 706 00:34:48,520 --> 00:34:51,120 Speaker 3: but there's no trace, so that's how they know he's 707 00:34:51,120 --> 00:34:55,239 Speaker 3: still active. So just on its on its front, What 708 00:34:55,360 --> 00:34:57,239 Speaker 3: did you think of this movie? Oh? 709 00:34:57,360 --> 00:35:02,719 Speaker 2: Lord, on the front part of it, you know. 710 00:35:03,000 --> 00:35:08,200 Speaker 1: I to me, it made me immediately think about people 711 00:35:08,200 --> 00:35:12,600 Speaker 1: who grew up in like really religious households, And I 712 00:35:12,600 --> 00:35:16,080 Speaker 1: mean I grew up Catholic obviously, and but you know, 713 00:35:16,120 --> 00:35:19,680 Speaker 1: and there's a lot of baggage to unpack from that experience, 714 00:35:20,160 --> 00:35:25,960 Speaker 1: but the kind of fire and brimstony type of I 715 00:35:26,000 --> 00:35:28,800 Speaker 1: don't know, to me, I was like, oh fuck, Like 716 00:35:28,800 --> 00:35:29,879 Speaker 1: like he seemed. 717 00:35:31,320 --> 00:35:33,920 Speaker 2: The dad was great until he wasn't great. 718 00:35:34,200 --> 00:35:36,520 Speaker 1: And that's kind of like what I was kind of 719 00:35:36,600 --> 00:35:40,200 Speaker 1: questioning was that I was just like, you know, obviously 720 00:35:40,320 --> 00:35:41,200 Speaker 1: he's a single dad. 721 00:35:41,400 --> 00:35:44,319 Speaker 2: It's probably pretty hard for him to like raise these 722 00:35:44,360 --> 00:35:45,319 Speaker 2: two boys. 723 00:35:45,680 --> 00:35:48,040 Speaker 1: But that all of a sudden he's kind of turned 724 00:35:49,080 --> 00:35:52,000 Speaker 1: like he does this kind of like moment where all 725 00:35:52,000 --> 00:35:54,720 Speaker 1: of a sudden, it's just he's almost like a completely 726 00:35:54,760 --> 00:35:57,600 Speaker 1: different person than I was thinking like, oh, well, chances 727 00:35:57,600 --> 00:36:00,360 Speaker 1: are you know, they're probably religious, And then I was 728 00:36:00,400 --> 00:36:04,640 Speaker 1: thinking like, damn, it is so hardcore to be in 729 00:36:04,680 --> 00:36:08,560 Speaker 1: that type of environment, right, like to have the hardcore 730 00:36:09,280 --> 00:36:14,239 Speaker 1: again like super religious, super like you know, old testamenty 731 00:36:14,520 --> 00:36:18,440 Speaker 1: type of thing. And I don't know, I immediately felt for 732 00:36:18,520 --> 00:36:20,520 Speaker 1: those kids. I mean, that's kind of how I felt, 733 00:36:20,560 --> 00:36:21,680 Speaker 1: was that they just had. 734 00:36:21,520 --> 00:36:26,399 Speaker 2: Suddenly this huge, weird scenario. 735 00:36:26,280 --> 00:36:29,560 Speaker 1: In front of them and they don't know how to react, 736 00:36:29,760 --> 00:36:29,960 Speaker 1: you know. 737 00:36:30,600 --> 00:36:32,640 Speaker 3: I agree and was wild about that too, is that 738 00:36:33,840 --> 00:36:36,880 Speaker 3: it's the religion does kind of come out of nowhere, 739 00:36:37,040 --> 00:36:40,720 Speaker 3: Like when they show this family pre God's hand killing, 740 00:36:41,800 --> 00:36:43,840 Speaker 3: they're just like these two little boys who were excited 741 00:36:43,840 --> 00:36:45,920 Speaker 3: to go see the warriors or like go see the 742 00:36:45,960 --> 00:36:49,080 Speaker 3: movies and dad comes home and he doesn't like you know, 743 00:36:49,239 --> 00:36:51,200 Speaker 3: slap a Bible on the table and say like it's 744 00:36:51,200 --> 00:36:53,759 Speaker 3: time to pray. Like it doesn't seem like there's any 745 00:36:53,800 --> 00:36:56,759 Speaker 3: religion in their life until this moment, which is so 746 00:36:57,000 --> 00:37:00,759 Speaker 3: creepy to have religion introduced in that Fire and Brimstone 747 00:37:00,800 --> 00:37:03,799 Speaker 3: way when there seems to have been like Nune, Like, 748 00:37:03,880 --> 00:37:05,719 Speaker 3: they don't show them going to church, they don't show 749 00:37:05,719 --> 00:37:08,399 Speaker 3: them like you know, he does kind of. They do 750 00:37:08,480 --> 00:37:10,799 Speaker 3: actually show the kids in the beginning walking out of 751 00:37:11,560 --> 00:37:14,160 Speaker 3: like Adam singing a church a Catholic song or a 752 00:37:14,200 --> 00:37:17,200 Speaker 3: song from church, and it's like an after school kind 753 00:37:17,200 --> 00:37:20,520 Speaker 3: of place, like an after school Bible study kind of thing. 754 00:37:21,000 --> 00:37:23,200 Speaker 3: But that's the most of it, and that even to 755 00:37:23,280 --> 00:37:26,160 Speaker 3: me doesn't insinuate that they're super religious, but just like 756 00:37:26,320 --> 00:37:29,200 Speaker 3: that's kind of where kids in small towns go, yes, 757 00:37:29,480 --> 00:37:32,040 Speaker 3: in this timeframe after school when there's nowhere else to 758 00:37:32,080 --> 00:37:34,320 Speaker 3: go in nothing to do, like go to the Bible School. 759 00:37:34,640 --> 00:37:38,560 Speaker 1: Yeah, I gotta say I think that the movie could 760 00:37:38,600 --> 00:37:41,080 Speaker 1: have set that up a little bit better, you know, 761 00:37:42,080 --> 00:37:44,480 Speaker 1: although I did think about it in terms of, well, 762 00:37:44,680 --> 00:37:46,480 Speaker 1: the fact that it didn't set it up at all, 763 00:37:46,600 --> 00:37:49,920 Speaker 1: and it didn't give you any indication that the father 764 00:37:50,239 --> 00:37:55,719 Speaker 1: was either you know, suffering some from some psychotic episode 765 00:37:56,000 --> 00:37:58,080 Speaker 1: or was super religious or something. 766 00:37:58,239 --> 00:38:01,200 Speaker 2: The fact that it just comes from literal nowhere. It seems. 767 00:38:01,600 --> 00:38:04,200 Speaker 2: I was like, is that scarier? Is that like even 768 00:38:04,200 --> 00:38:04,880 Speaker 2: more terrifying? 769 00:38:04,920 --> 00:38:07,160 Speaker 1: And I was like, oh, Dad's making a macaroni and 770 00:38:07,200 --> 00:38:10,680 Speaker 1: cheese and the next day he's putting access through people, Like, well, 771 00:38:10,719 --> 00:38:15,560 Speaker 1: how the fuck does that happen? But I just assumed 772 00:38:15,640 --> 00:38:18,359 Speaker 1: that they were religious. But again, I don't think the 773 00:38:18,440 --> 00:38:19,200 Speaker 1: movie set it. 774 00:38:19,239 --> 00:38:21,319 Speaker 3: Up that way. Like you said, you're right, you're right, 775 00:38:21,360 --> 00:38:25,000 Speaker 3: and I completely agree that. I wish they'd either emphasized 776 00:38:25,040 --> 00:38:27,920 Speaker 3: it more or not included that scene with them walking 777 00:38:27,920 --> 00:38:30,879 Speaker 3: from the Bible School, so it seemed even more intense. Yeah, 778 00:38:30,880 --> 00:38:34,480 Speaker 3: when he's like, oh shit, Dad's talking about God. But 779 00:38:34,520 --> 00:38:37,279 Speaker 3: I think that what they do well though, even with 780 00:38:37,400 --> 00:38:40,319 Speaker 3: that scene is being in there. I think what they 781 00:38:40,360 --> 00:38:44,560 Speaker 3: do well is kind of telegraphing. How freaky it is 782 00:38:44,719 --> 00:38:48,719 Speaker 3: for kids when their parents do start saying shit out 783 00:38:48,719 --> 00:38:50,520 Speaker 3: of nowhere. Yeah, and it doesn't always have to be 784 00:38:50,600 --> 00:38:52,880 Speaker 3: like we're gonna be killing some demons. It could be 785 00:38:52,960 --> 00:38:56,040 Speaker 3: like we're moving to ann Arbor and they're like, what 786 00:38:56,520 --> 00:39:00,399 Speaker 3: like when like when adults kind of have their own 787 00:39:00,480 --> 00:39:03,960 Speaker 3: life and they don't discuss things with kids. That's how 788 00:39:04,000 --> 00:39:06,480 Speaker 3: it feels as a kid. It's like all this information 789 00:39:06,680 --> 00:39:11,760 Speaker 3: is completely off off kills her. Yeah. So I felt 790 00:39:11,760 --> 00:39:14,040 Speaker 3: that as a viewer because they don't really tell you 791 00:39:14,160 --> 00:39:17,920 Speaker 3: exactly what's happening. And the way that the way that 792 00:39:17,960 --> 00:39:20,799 Speaker 3: the movie is set up is that Matthew McConaughey, who 793 00:39:20,880 --> 00:39:26,120 Speaker 3: plays the older version of Fenton, Matthew McConaughey, walks into 794 00:39:26,160 --> 00:39:30,799 Speaker 3: the FBI station one day and says, I know who 795 00:39:30,800 --> 00:39:33,880 Speaker 3: the God's hand Killer is. It was my brother. And 796 00:39:33,920 --> 00:39:39,840 Speaker 3: then he uses that moment to kind of tell Agent Doyle, 797 00:39:39,880 --> 00:39:44,399 Speaker 3: who's played by Powers Booth, Yes, the story of how 798 00:39:44,440 --> 00:39:47,080 Speaker 3: his brother became the God's hand Killer and it started 799 00:39:47,080 --> 00:39:49,680 Speaker 3: with his dad. So I kind of like, there are 800 00:39:49,680 --> 00:39:51,680 Speaker 3: some tropes here that I really love, and that's one 801 00:39:51,719 --> 00:39:55,440 Speaker 3: of them. Like the notion of passing down this murder 802 00:39:55,920 --> 00:39:58,840 Speaker 3: instinct or this like you know, this is the family legacy. 803 00:39:58,960 --> 00:40:01,960 Speaker 3: Like not all family legacy, these are great. So that 804 00:40:02,080 --> 00:40:04,120 Speaker 3: was kind of cool to me. And I just really 805 00:40:04,239 --> 00:40:08,080 Speaker 3: liked I like the setup of the film being being 806 00:40:08,160 --> 00:40:10,520 Speaker 3: such that, like you never quite knew where it was 807 00:40:10,560 --> 00:40:12,200 Speaker 3: going or what was going on. 808 00:40:12,800 --> 00:40:14,319 Speaker 2: Definitely that definitely that. 809 00:40:15,080 --> 00:40:18,200 Speaker 3: So just to kind of talk, I did some research 810 00:40:18,200 --> 00:40:20,200 Speaker 3: for this, but I don't want to overwhelm people about it. 811 00:40:20,680 --> 00:40:23,759 Speaker 3: Bill Paxton died in twenty seventeen when he was sixty one. 812 00:40:24,239 --> 00:40:27,400 Speaker 3: It is so sad. I think about Bill Paxton and 813 00:40:27,440 --> 00:40:29,840 Speaker 3: Bernie Mack all the time. They were both taken for 814 00:40:29,960 --> 00:40:30,840 Speaker 3: most way too soon. 815 00:40:31,360 --> 00:40:34,759 Speaker 2: Definitely, no, I hate it. No, I hate it too. 816 00:40:35,120 --> 00:40:38,200 Speaker 1: And that was another thing that I kept thinking about 817 00:40:38,520 --> 00:40:42,839 Speaker 1: during this film is just how awesome Bill Paxton was. 818 00:40:43,480 --> 00:40:46,319 Speaker 2: I mean I basically didn't know. 819 00:40:46,880 --> 00:40:51,000 Speaker 1: I only knew about like his early stuff, like his 820 00:40:51,360 --> 00:40:54,240 Speaker 1: you know, I don't know, like when he was younger 821 00:40:54,239 --> 00:40:56,160 Speaker 1: and he was in LA and he was directing the 822 00:40:56,200 --> 00:40:59,640 Speaker 1: fish Heads video. Yes, I only knew that like in 823 00:40:59,640 --> 00:41:01,880 Speaker 1: the past, like maybe ten years or something. And it 824 00:41:02,000 --> 00:41:04,960 Speaker 1: just blew my mind because he seems so cool and 825 00:41:05,040 --> 00:41:08,319 Speaker 1: like I mean, I don't know if anybody has really 826 00:41:08,400 --> 00:41:11,840 Speaker 1: dug into like his early career, like his taking Tiger 827 00:41:11,920 --> 00:41:17,000 Speaker 1: Mountain type stuff, but I mean it's amazing, Like you go, oh, 828 00:41:17,120 --> 00:41:20,120 Speaker 1: he's he was chat from weird science, but then he 829 00:41:20,200 --> 00:41:24,160 Speaker 1: was also making like fucked up art films and absolutely, 830 00:41:24,280 --> 00:41:26,800 Speaker 1: you know, and I'm just like, God, that is so cool. 831 00:41:26,920 --> 00:41:28,239 Speaker 2: I love him and this. 832 00:41:28,480 --> 00:41:32,680 Speaker 3: I did find one article on Texas Monthly by Sean 833 00:41:32,760 --> 00:41:35,480 Speaker 3: O'Neil that was actually written just a couple of months 834 00:41:35,520 --> 00:41:39,720 Speaker 3: ago in April, and the article is about how Frailt 835 00:41:40,080 --> 00:41:42,680 Speaker 3: was this like wonderful film and Bill Paxton was this 836 00:41:42,719 --> 00:41:46,319 Speaker 3: wonderful guy. But basically in this article, the way that 837 00:41:47,840 --> 00:41:51,960 Speaker 3: the way that it starts, I think is really indicative 838 00:41:52,000 --> 00:41:53,759 Speaker 3: of kind of who Bill Paxson was. So if you're 839 00:41:53,800 --> 00:41:56,320 Speaker 3: only familiar with him from one or two movies, or 840 00:41:56,360 --> 00:42:00,640 Speaker 3: maybe you know only his movies, this article is really 841 00:42:00,880 --> 00:42:03,920 Speaker 3: a great read. I think that it kind of helps 842 00:42:04,600 --> 00:42:07,279 Speaker 3: cement and solidify who he was as a person and 843 00:42:07,280 --> 00:42:09,719 Speaker 3: not just who he was as like an actor or 844 00:42:09,760 --> 00:42:11,640 Speaker 3: a director or somebody who is working. It kind of 845 00:42:11,680 --> 00:42:14,319 Speaker 3: goes into his life a little bit. And I'm going 846 00:42:14,360 --> 00:42:18,879 Speaker 3: to quote here because I love this paragraph. The late 847 00:42:18,920 --> 00:42:22,520 Speaker 3: Bill Paxton was something of a renaissance man. The Texas 848 00:42:22,640 --> 00:42:25,320 Speaker 3: native got his start in movies as a set dresser, 849 00:42:26,000 --> 00:42:30,520 Speaker 3: procuring props for Roger Corman. He dabbled in music rather 850 00:42:30,560 --> 00:42:35,040 Speaker 3: successfully with his new wave band Martini Ranch. On screen, 851 00:42:35,239 --> 00:42:40,520 Speaker 3: Paxson contains similar multitudes, playing crude bullies and punk rock vampires, 852 00:42:40,960 --> 00:42:46,120 Speaker 3: chasing tornadoes and romancing Shirley MacLean and heroically not throttling 853 00:42:46,160 --> 00:42:48,920 Speaker 3: Gloria Stewart after she jerked him around for three hours 854 00:42:48,920 --> 00:42:54,560 Speaker 3: in Titanic. Paxson could do prestige HBO shows and silly 855 00:42:54,640 --> 00:42:59,239 Speaker 3: kids movies, cowboy westerns, and broad comedies. His sudden death 856 00:42:59,280 --> 00:43:02,239 Speaker 3: in two thousands seventeen was a tragedy, cutting short a 857 00:43:02,280 --> 00:43:05,760 Speaker 3: still thriving career at the too soon age of sixty 858 00:43:05,800 --> 00:43:08,920 Speaker 3: one and denying us all the pleasure of watching the 859 00:43:08,960 --> 00:43:12,560 Speaker 3: actor bloom gracefully into the more wizend roles like his 860 00:43:12,680 --> 00:43:17,279 Speaker 3: hero Clint Eastwood. But arguably Paxson had already lived enough 861 00:43:17,360 --> 00:43:22,400 Speaker 3: lives for several men. Wow, and I love that that paragraph. 862 00:43:22,440 --> 00:43:25,240 Speaker 3: I just love that description, Like I just imagine living 863 00:43:25,239 --> 00:43:28,960 Speaker 3: a life so big that it can't even be contained, 864 00:43:29,239 --> 00:43:32,360 Speaker 3: like he did. Everything he wanted to do. He tried 865 00:43:32,560 --> 00:43:35,000 Speaker 3: everything that was of interest to him. He tried it 866 00:43:35,520 --> 00:43:39,799 Speaker 3: and again. Musician in a new wave band. Yeah, and 867 00:43:39,840 --> 00:43:42,319 Speaker 3: he comes from like this time this hey come from 868 00:43:42,320 --> 00:43:44,680 Speaker 3: Fort Worth, Texas. Like he's just from this this place 869 00:43:44,719 --> 00:43:47,680 Speaker 3: that I don't think was at the time that he 870 00:43:47,760 --> 00:43:49,920 Speaker 3: was raised. At least it was natural for him to 871 00:43:50,000 --> 00:43:53,759 Speaker 3: really pursue this stuff in such a big way. And 872 00:43:53,800 --> 00:43:58,040 Speaker 3: so there's something really cool about his whole identity and 873 00:43:58,160 --> 00:44:00,960 Speaker 3: his whole person. I just I miss him as a person. 874 00:44:01,080 --> 00:44:05,160 Speaker 3: I think because he was weird and cool and tried 875 00:44:05,920 --> 00:44:08,680 Speaker 3: so many different things that based on what we've seen 876 00:44:08,719 --> 00:44:10,960 Speaker 3: on screen alone, I feel like he was probably a 877 00:44:10,960 --> 00:44:11,600 Speaker 3: great person. 878 00:44:12,440 --> 00:44:12,720 Speaker 2: Yeah. 879 00:44:12,800 --> 00:44:15,160 Speaker 1: Well, I just love the idea of somebody coming from 880 00:44:15,200 --> 00:44:17,840 Speaker 1: Texas to LA and just kind of falling into like 881 00:44:17,880 --> 00:44:20,640 Speaker 1: a new wave scene and you know, running around and 882 00:44:20,680 --> 00:44:23,600 Speaker 1: you know, making weird art films and hanging out with 883 00:44:23,640 --> 00:44:24,600 Speaker 1: cool people and stuff. 884 00:44:24,640 --> 00:44:26,360 Speaker 2: I mean, I don't know. I just think that's really cool. 885 00:44:26,440 --> 00:44:28,759 Speaker 2: And I feel like, yeah, we lost him way, way, 886 00:44:28,800 --> 00:44:29,680 Speaker 2: way too soon. 887 00:44:29,840 --> 00:44:32,200 Speaker 1: And this is a movie like this, I mean, anytime 888 00:44:32,200 --> 00:44:34,960 Speaker 1: I see him, actually, like anytime he pops up in 889 00:44:35,000 --> 00:44:37,959 Speaker 1: a movie, like I mean, shit, We played Near Dark 890 00:44:38,000 --> 00:44:39,880 Speaker 1: on TCM all the time, and every time we play it, 891 00:44:39,880 --> 00:44:41,880 Speaker 1: I'm like, God, I love Bill Paxson. 892 00:44:41,920 --> 00:44:42,720 Speaker 2: What the fuck? 893 00:44:42,920 --> 00:44:46,520 Speaker 1: I can't believe that he's dead, so I yeah, really 894 00:44:46,560 --> 00:44:49,799 Speaker 1: there was like a lot of missing him when I 895 00:44:49,840 --> 00:44:51,120 Speaker 1: was watching this movie, right. 896 00:44:51,440 --> 00:44:54,520 Speaker 3: Yeah, completely completely, And this this is also something I 897 00:44:54,560 --> 00:44:57,000 Speaker 3: love from this this article as well again Texas Monthly 898 00:44:57,040 --> 00:45:01,280 Speaker 3: Sean O'Neill look it up. He calls this movie Frailty, 899 00:45:01,360 --> 00:45:05,240 Speaker 3: a lean, psychological drama that's tinged with Southern Gothic flare. 900 00:45:05,440 --> 00:45:08,960 Speaker 3: And I do really dig that because that is exactly 901 00:45:09,120 --> 00:45:11,520 Speaker 3: what it is. It is a psychological drama that keeps 902 00:45:11,520 --> 00:45:15,040 Speaker 3: you on your toes throughout. But it has such it 903 00:45:15,040 --> 00:45:19,880 Speaker 3: has such a connection to that Southern Gothic kind of 904 00:45:21,400 --> 00:45:25,920 Speaker 3: mentality that it's almost evident to see his influences in 905 00:45:25,960 --> 00:45:28,040 Speaker 3: some of the shots. Like I don't know how to 906 00:45:28,080 --> 00:45:31,799 Speaker 3: explain it specifically, but like you can see you can 907 00:45:31,800 --> 00:45:35,080 Speaker 3: see Paxson's influences throughout this film, and he's not playing 908 00:45:35,120 --> 00:45:37,920 Speaker 3: it safe, and he's not doing what a lot of 909 00:45:37,920 --> 00:45:40,160 Speaker 3: first time directors would do, which is like I just 910 00:45:40,239 --> 00:45:43,160 Speaker 3: want to make sure I get another job. You know. 911 00:45:43,200 --> 00:45:44,719 Speaker 3: He's just kind of like, this is the story I 912 00:45:44,719 --> 00:45:46,640 Speaker 3: want to tell, no matter how weird it is, and 913 00:45:46,640 --> 00:45:50,080 Speaker 3: I'm going to tell it. And even Roger Ebert, you know, 914 00:45:50,120 --> 00:45:53,239 Speaker 3: this movie was not It was critically well received, but 915 00:45:53,280 --> 00:45:56,000 Speaker 3: it was not a big earner at the box office. 916 00:45:56,840 --> 00:46:00,160 Speaker 3: But in Roger Ebert's review, he said in a quote, 917 00:46:00,320 --> 00:46:03,200 Speaker 3: perhaps only a first time director an actor who does 918 00:46:03,239 --> 00:46:05,880 Speaker 3: not depend on directing for his next job, would have 919 00:46:05,920 --> 00:46:08,399 Speaker 3: had the nerve to make this movie. And I think 920 00:46:08,400 --> 00:46:10,480 Speaker 3: that's true, Like he was the exact right person to 921 00:46:10,520 --> 00:46:11,680 Speaker 3: make this film. 922 00:46:12,080 --> 00:46:13,319 Speaker 2: Yeah, and I was thinking that too. 923 00:46:13,480 --> 00:46:15,680 Speaker 1: I mean, just in terms of the religious turn that 924 00:46:15,760 --> 00:46:18,080 Speaker 1: the Father takes, I'm like, oh, growing up in Texas, 925 00:46:18,120 --> 00:46:20,719 Speaker 1: I'm sure he knew quite a number of dads who 926 00:46:21,040 --> 00:46:25,799 Speaker 1: believed that, you know, you should kill evil people, you know, 927 00:46:25,960 --> 00:46:27,319 Speaker 1: because God told you to, you know. 928 00:46:27,400 --> 00:46:28,839 Speaker 2: I mean the Southern. 929 00:46:28,560 --> 00:46:32,759 Speaker 1: Gothicness of that type of mentality, I feel like just 930 00:46:32,800 --> 00:46:35,640 Speaker 1: kind of like is always in stories like this, you 931 00:46:35,640 --> 00:46:36,120 Speaker 1: know what I mean. 932 00:46:36,280 --> 00:46:39,239 Speaker 3: Yeah, Yeah, I completely, yes, absolutely, because I think that 933 00:46:39,280 --> 00:46:42,240 Speaker 3: the other thing that I get from Southern Gothic films, 934 00:46:42,280 --> 00:46:45,359 Speaker 3: aside from what you just said, is there's always this 935 00:46:45,480 --> 00:46:49,120 Speaker 3: like thin line of punishment that runs through the narrative, 936 00:46:49,719 --> 00:46:52,240 Speaker 3: and a lot of times that punishment could come from religion, 937 00:46:52,320 --> 00:46:54,520 Speaker 3: or it could come from, you know, misogyny, or it 938 00:46:54,520 --> 00:46:57,719 Speaker 3: could come from like racism, lots of different ways. But 939 00:46:57,960 --> 00:47:00,760 Speaker 3: that to me is like a constant thing or trope 940 00:47:00,920 --> 00:47:03,600 Speaker 3: in Southern Gothic films. It's like where where does the 941 00:47:03,600 --> 00:47:06,200 Speaker 3: punishment come in, Who's being punished and why? And in 942 00:47:06,200 --> 00:47:09,080 Speaker 3: this film in particular, I feel like the punishment escalates 943 00:47:09,120 --> 00:47:12,880 Speaker 3: in such a wild way that you kind of can't 944 00:47:12,920 --> 00:47:17,000 Speaker 3: help but compare it to other films that you've seen 945 00:47:17,080 --> 00:47:19,279 Speaker 3: in this trope that have, you know, this kind of 946 00:47:21,000 --> 00:47:25,280 Speaker 3: allegiance to punishment. And so what I love about this 947 00:47:25,280 --> 00:47:28,360 Speaker 3: this movie is and I saw it in the theaters 948 00:47:28,360 --> 00:47:30,480 Speaker 3: and loved it right away. I was one of the 949 00:47:30,640 --> 00:47:32,040 Speaker 3: one of the people who saw it in the theaters 950 00:47:32,080 --> 00:47:36,720 Speaker 3: and absolutely adored it. It's because it's so goddamn weird. 951 00:47:36,880 --> 00:47:41,279 Speaker 3: It's just weird. But I also love the kids in 952 00:47:41,280 --> 00:47:44,479 Speaker 3: this movie, like I was in this movie, acted their 953 00:47:45,160 --> 00:47:48,880 Speaker 3: asses off, and I think that So you've got Matthew 954 00:47:48,920 --> 00:47:53,200 Speaker 3: McConaughey who plays an older Fenton Meeks, but matt O'Leary 955 00:47:53,600 --> 00:47:58,080 Speaker 3: plays the young Fenton and does such an incredible job. 956 00:47:59,000 --> 00:48:00,960 Speaker 2: Totally agree. Man, he was so. 957 00:48:01,040 --> 00:48:04,480 Speaker 3: Much good ought. The emotion that comes out of this 958 00:48:04,640 --> 00:48:07,920 Speaker 3: kid is wild to see it on screen and you 959 00:48:08,040 --> 00:48:10,680 Speaker 3: kind of it made me wonder and think like, well, 960 00:48:10,719 --> 00:48:13,240 Speaker 3: that has to also be a result of Bill Paxson 961 00:48:13,280 --> 00:48:16,359 Speaker 3: as a director, because an actor who's a director knows 962 00:48:16,360 --> 00:48:21,480 Speaker 3: how to really get emotion out of their cast, Like 963 00:48:21,520 --> 00:48:23,840 Speaker 3: they know what to say to kind of get actors going. 964 00:48:25,239 --> 00:48:29,120 Speaker 3: And Jeremy Sumter, who plays a young Adam, another just 965 00:48:29,320 --> 00:48:32,799 Speaker 3: beautiful job, like just really innocent but also kind of 966 00:48:33,520 --> 00:48:36,000 Speaker 3: that sniveling little brother, but who also shows so much 967 00:48:36,040 --> 00:48:39,000 Speaker 3: heart and so much care and so much worry. Oh. 968 00:48:39,040 --> 00:48:42,799 Speaker 3: I just thought these kids were perfectly cast. Yeah, they 969 00:48:42,840 --> 00:48:43,600 Speaker 3: are so good. 970 00:48:43,680 --> 00:48:47,479 Speaker 1: I mean honestly, like that little kid, I mean, Matt 971 00:48:47,480 --> 00:48:48,600 Speaker 1: O'Leary he was. 972 00:48:49,320 --> 00:48:51,120 Speaker 2: I was like, wow, what a great actor. I wonder 973 00:48:51,160 --> 00:48:53,880 Speaker 2: if he's still acting. I looked him up. It seems 974 00:48:53,920 --> 00:48:54,440 Speaker 2: like he is. 975 00:48:54,800 --> 00:48:58,640 Speaker 1: But as a like he communicates so much about like 976 00:48:58,680 --> 00:49:02,239 Speaker 1: the there's a part of the film where you know, 977 00:49:02,480 --> 00:49:07,840 Speaker 1: essentially as the as the situation is escalating between his 978 00:49:07,960 --> 00:49:12,200 Speaker 1: father and them, he gets like locked in a basement. 979 00:49:13,440 --> 00:49:15,960 Speaker 1: And again it's like you just said there's this concept 980 00:49:15,960 --> 00:49:18,839 Speaker 1: of punishment that's running throughout this film and within like 981 00:49:18,920 --> 00:49:25,680 Speaker 1: Southern Gothic storylines, and he's being punished essentially for not 982 00:49:25,840 --> 00:49:30,120 Speaker 1: being I guess a true believer or questioning his father's 983 00:49:30,920 --> 00:49:33,520 Speaker 1: you know, authenticity when it comes to this message that 984 00:49:33,560 --> 00:49:37,279 Speaker 1: he's receiving from God, and like it's scary as shit, 985 00:49:37,520 --> 00:49:39,680 Speaker 1: Like you're like, that's a part where I really began 986 00:49:39,719 --> 00:49:43,000 Speaker 1: to feel like the intensity of sort of religious conviction. 987 00:49:43,600 --> 00:49:45,239 Speaker 1: And I was like, man, this guy, this kid is 988 00:49:45,280 --> 00:49:47,120 Speaker 1: being locked in a basement and they're not giving him anything. 989 00:49:47,160 --> 00:49:49,240 Speaker 1: His brother's like trying to pour like drops of water 990 00:49:49,320 --> 00:49:52,759 Speaker 1: in the cracks of the fucking floor, and he's not 991 00:49:52,800 --> 00:49:53,680 Speaker 1: able to eat or anything. 992 00:49:53,719 --> 00:49:54,759 Speaker 2: And just like the. 993 00:49:54,800 --> 00:49:58,160 Speaker 1: Little kid, this kid actor is having to go through 994 00:49:58,200 --> 00:50:02,320 Speaker 1: all this, and he's doing a great job like communicating 995 00:50:03,280 --> 00:50:06,719 Speaker 1: the way that that is so inherently fucked up, you. 996 00:50:06,680 --> 00:50:10,279 Speaker 3: Know, completely, And there's some steps even before that that 997 00:50:10,360 --> 00:50:12,640 Speaker 3: make you that made me think he was so great 998 00:50:12,920 --> 00:50:16,440 Speaker 3: at this job because essentially, you know, Dad comes home 999 00:50:16,440 --> 00:50:18,080 Speaker 3: one day and he's like, our family was chosen for 1000 00:50:18,120 --> 00:50:20,680 Speaker 3: a job. God's gonna send me a list of seven 1001 00:50:20,760 --> 00:50:22,799 Speaker 3: names and reveal three weapons and then We're gonna kill 1002 00:50:22,840 --> 00:50:25,319 Speaker 3: some demons, and they're like what. So he does find 1003 00:50:25,360 --> 00:50:28,080 Speaker 3: this axe which has Otis carved in the handle, and 1004 00:50:28,360 --> 00:50:31,520 Speaker 3: I read somewhere that Bill Paxton wanted the Acts to 1005 00:50:31,600 --> 00:50:33,760 Speaker 3: kind of have its own personality. 1006 00:50:35,239 --> 00:50:38,439 Speaker 2: As they do, so he gave it this name. 1007 00:50:38,640 --> 00:50:41,120 Speaker 3: And then he finds a pair of gloves and a pipe. 1008 00:50:41,400 --> 00:50:43,280 Speaker 3: So it's like this real fucked up game of clue 1009 00:50:43,400 --> 00:50:46,239 Speaker 3: right off the bat, and then God sends this list 1010 00:50:46,280 --> 00:50:48,640 Speaker 3: of seven names, like why can't it be just be one? 1011 00:50:48,719 --> 00:50:51,000 Speaker 3: God always goes so big, it can't just be like 1012 00:50:51,040 --> 00:50:54,200 Speaker 3: here's a demon like one? Dude, maybe, but you know, 1013 00:50:54,320 --> 00:50:56,960 Speaker 3: Dad's like, nope, Judgment Day is here. I'm totally into this. 1014 00:50:58,000 --> 00:51:01,279 Speaker 3: And Fenton kind of feels like it's a dream at first, 1015 00:51:01,320 --> 00:51:04,440 Speaker 3: because the next morning after his dad reveals this story 1016 00:51:04,480 --> 00:51:07,319 Speaker 3: to him, he's like totally normal. And then the one 1017 00:51:07,320 --> 00:51:09,160 Speaker 3: of the greatest scenes is when he's getting out of 1018 00:51:09,160 --> 00:51:12,720 Speaker 3: the car. They're walking into school and Dad just leans 1019 00:51:12,760 --> 00:51:15,400 Speaker 3: over out of the car. When doing it's like, uh, yo, 1020 00:51:15,480 --> 00:51:17,400 Speaker 3: don't forget what I told you about those demons, and 1021 00:51:17,440 --> 00:51:23,359 Speaker 3: he's like, fucks am I right. 1022 00:51:23,440 --> 00:51:25,959 Speaker 2: He's like, God, damn it, I thought you forgot about 1023 00:51:25,960 --> 00:51:26,720 Speaker 2: that shit Dad. 1024 00:51:28,080 --> 00:51:30,239 Speaker 3: He stumps in his tracks and it's like, are you 1025 00:51:30,280 --> 00:51:34,839 Speaker 3: fucking getting Like what such a great scene, And then 1026 00:51:34,880 --> 00:51:36,960 Speaker 3: I love I also love the scene where he gets 1027 00:51:37,080 --> 00:51:39,480 Speaker 3: where he first gets the list. So Dad's a mechanic 1028 00:51:39,520 --> 00:51:42,120 Speaker 3: and he's under the car and there are these sparks flying, 1029 00:51:42,520 --> 00:51:44,040 Speaker 3: and then all of a sudden he sees this like 1030 00:51:44,200 --> 00:51:47,919 Speaker 3: very intense scene of like a church, Like the car 1031 00:51:47,960 --> 00:51:50,320 Speaker 3: turns into a church and then there's an angel descending 1032 00:51:50,360 --> 00:51:52,880 Speaker 3: with a flaming sword. But what I love about the 1033 00:51:52,920 --> 00:51:55,320 Speaker 3: scene is they pull back and all of a sudden, 1034 00:51:55,360 --> 00:51:57,600 Speaker 3: you just see him laying under this car with sparks 1035 00:51:57,600 --> 00:51:59,960 Speaker 3: flying around his head. So it does a really good 1036 00:52:00,120 --> 00:52:02,960 Speaker 3: job of pointing out this constant question of like is 1037 00:52:03,000 --> 00:52:05,600 Speaker 3: this guy unhinged or not? Like this he could be 1038 00:52:05,640 --> 00:52:08,160 Speaker 3: seeing this vision because he's in a place where there 1039 00:52:08,200 --> 00:52:10,920 Speaker 3: are sparks flying around his head. It's not a flaming sword, 1040 00:52:10,960 --> 00:52:13,640 Speaker 3: it's not an angel. So when it comes time to 1041 00:52:13,680 --> 00:52:16,120 Speaker 3: do the first kill, Dad comes home with this woman. 1042 00:52:16,239 --> 00:52:18,520 Speaker 3: She's tied up and gagged. The other thing that I 1043 00:52:18,560 --> 00:52:20,600 Speaker 3: really love I love Bill Paxson as a director of 1044 00:52:20,600 --> 00:52:22,400 Speaker 3: this film. What I love about him as an actor 1045 00:52:22,400 --> 00:52:25,680 Speaker 3: in this film is that he plays it scared every 1046 00:52:25,680 --> 00:52:28,719 Speaker 3: single kill. Most times he's talking to his kids, he's 1047 00:52:28,719 --> 00:52:32,520 Speaker 3: not being like that hard bully. He's like terrified. And 1048 00:52:32,680 --> 00:52:35,040 Speaker 3: so he is wearing these gloves because you know, once 1049 00:52:35,080 --> 00:52:37,080 Speaker 3: he touches their skin, he gets a vision of their 1050 00:52:37,120 --> 00:52:39,880 Speaker 3: evil deeds. But when he starts to kill, when he 1051 00:52:39,960 --> 00:52:42,279 Speaker 3: kills her with this axe, we don't see it. He 1052 00:52:42,320 --> 00:52:44,600 Speaker 3: plays it all off screen, which in that article with 1053 00:52:44,640 --> 00:52:48,360 Speaker 3: Sean O'Neil he pointed out was very HITCHCOCKI in like 1054 00:52:48,400 --> 00:52:51,719 Speaker 3: that kind of hitchcock dissolve. And then they bury her 1055 00:52:51,800 --> 00:52:54,320 Speaker 3: in the rose garden and guess what. The boys watch 1056 00:52:54,600 --> 00:52:58,000 Speaker 3: the whole thing from her being dragged into the fucking 1057 00:52:58,040 --> 00:53:01,200 Speaker 3: garage to being axed, and then they have to help 1058 00:53:01,280 --> 00:53:04,120 Speaker 3: bury her. So there is just like trauma all over 1059 00:53:04,160 --> 00:53:05,440 Speaker 3: the place right away. 1060 00:53:05,640 --> 00:53:06,680 Speaker 2: Oh god, no kidding. 1061 00:53:07,239 --> 00:53:09,200 Speaker 3: And adult Fenton, you know, we kind of are cutting 1062 00:53:09,239 --> 00:53:11,840 Speaker 3: back and forth, and adult Fenton is like, well, I 1063 00:53:11,960 --> 00:53:15,600 Speaker 3: know where all the bodies are buried. So Agent Doyle's like, 1064 00:53:15,600 --> 00:53:17,279 Speaker 3: all right, I'll go with you and we'll take a 1065 00:53:17,280 --> 00:53:19,120 Speaker 3: little road trip and you can show me these bodies. 1066 00:53:19,480 --> 00:53:23,440 Speaker 3: And ps. Doyle's mom was also killed in an unsolved murder. 1067 00:53:23,680 --> 00:53:26,520 Speaker 3: So he's like not feeling this guy who's like, oh, also, 1068 00:53:26,560 --> 00:53:29,680 Speaker 3: my family is all murderers. Yeah. 1069 00:53:29,840 --> 00:53:32,720 Speaker 1: What what did you think of McConaughey in this movie? 1070 00:53:32,800 --> 00:53:35,040 Speaker 1: It felt to me like because this was from two 1071 00:53:35,080 --> 00:53:37,000 Speaker 1: thousand and one, right, and I was like, this is 1072 00:53:37,040 --> 00:53:39,359 Speaker 1: pretty like early McConaughey almost right. 1073 00:53:39,880 --> 00:53:42,279 Speaker 3: I sort of got like the I sort of. 1074 00:53:42,280 --> 00:53:45,839 Speaker 1: Looked into the future after seeing this movie and thought, Oh, 1075 00:53:46,000 --> 00:53:47,120 Speaker 1: this is like a true detective. 1076 00:53:47,160 --> 00:53:48,600 Speaker 3: This is what he would do in true detective. 1077 00:53:48,640 --> 00:53:52,839 Speaker 1: He would be this like a spooky, haunted adult that 1078 00:53:53,040 --> 00:53:56,120 Speaker 1: has trauma from childhood or something, you know what I mean. 1079 00:53:56,680 --> 00:53:59,319 Speaker 3: Yes, And he doesn't smile, and he's very stoic, and 1080 00:53:59,400 --> 00:54:03,279 Speaker 3: he's also, oh, this is so early. Like when I 1081 00:54:03,320 --> 00:54:05,560 Speaker 3: was watching the film this time, I thought about him 1082 00:54:05,600 --> 00:54:08,960 Speaker 3: and Wolflf wall Street and he's so tempered in this movie, 1083 00:54:09,120 --> 00:54:12,560 Speaker 3: and he's so controlled, and I think that as his 1084 00:54:12,640 --> 00:54:16,279 Speaker 3: career developed, and this is even like pre rom com McConaughey, 1085 00:54:16,280 --> 00:54:18,920 Speaker 3: like all the you know, Kate Hudson movies and everything. 1086 00:54:20,320 --> 00:54:24,239 Speaker 3: So he's just very controlled and very like you can 1087 00:54:24,320 --> 00:54:26,279 Speaker 3: tell that he's he's still kind of a student of 1088 00:54:26,320 --> 00:54:29,200 Speaker 3: acting at this point. That's just something that tends to 1089 00:54:29,200 --> 00:54:31,080 Speaker 3: come third to me when I'm watching him in this 1090 00:54:31,600 --> 00:54:34,960 Speaker 3: because he takes he's like, he's playing it so closely, 1091 00:54:35,000 --> 00:54:36,319 Speaker 3: and a lot of it has to do with where 1092 00:54:36,320 --> 00:54:39,000 Speaker 3: the movie ends up going at the end of the film. 1093 00:54:40,040 --> 00:54:42,000 Speaker 3: But he's I don't know, I really I dig this 1094 00:54:42,120 --> 00:54:45,640 Speaker 3: McConaughey because I think he's he's really goofy in a 1095 00:54:45,640 --> 00:54:51,040 Speaker 3: lot of roles. Sometimes it's called for, sometimes intentionally, but 1096 00:54:51,120 --> 00:54:55,759 Speaker 3: I like seeing him have such a strong ability to act. Yeah, 1097 00:54:55,800 --> 00:54:58,920 Speaker 3: and those are my favorite McConaughey roles, like Dallas Buyers Club, 1098 00:54:59,280 --> 00:55:01,200 Speaker 3: Like I like him as a dramatic actor. 1099 00:55:01,520 --> 00:55:03,440 Speaker 2: Yeah, no kidding, it's awesome. 1100 00:55:04,040 --> 00:55:09,520 Speaker 3: So so so the second time Dad kills he buys 1101 00:55:09,520 --> 00:55:12,759 Speaker 3: a van, he buys some fucking murdermobile, and then he 1102 00:55:12,880 --> 00:55:16,160 Speaker 3: uses the kids to get to catch the killer, like 1103 00:55:16,200 --> 00:55:20,239 Speaker 3: to catch this guy. And so he's now one upped 1104 00:55:20,280 --> 00:55:22,160 Speaker 3: himself and he's like, Okay, we've got this murder van. 1105 00:55:22,520 --> 00:55:24,719 Speaker 3: Hop out and pretend your fucking dog got caught under 1106 00:55:24,719 --> 00:55:27,760 Speaker 3: this car so I can kill this dude. And Fenton's 1107 00:55:27,800 --> 00:55:29,960 Speaker 3: like it's the middle of the day, and Dad's like, 1108 00:55:30,000 --> 00:55:32,840 Speaker 3: don't worry, God's gonna protect us. Like God will blind 1109 00:55:32,840 --> 00:55:36,320 Speaker 3: people from from this, and he's like, what, we're in 1110 00:55:36,360 --> 00:55:38,960 Speaker 3: a Parklize the middle of the day. So he does 1111 00:55:39,000 --> 00:55:43,400 Speaker 3: this second kill and Benton is like again to his credit, 1112 00:55:43,800 --> 00:55:46,360 Speaker 3: he is telling his dad from jump like you've lost it, 1113 00:55:46,400 --> 00:55:49,400 Speaker 3: You've lost your mind. I want to run away. Adam 1114 00:55:49,440 --> 00:55:50,919 Speaker 3: does not want to come with him, so he won't 1115 00:55:51,000 --> 00:55:53,400 Speaker 3: leave his little brother behind, but he is trying, and 1116 00:55:53,440 --> 00:55:55,719 Speaker 3: he even goes to the sheriff at one point and 1117 00:55:55,760 --> 00:55:57,919 Speaker 3: tells him, you know, my dad's been killing some people 1118 00:55:57,960 --> 00:56:00,440 Speaker 3: and burying them in the town rose Garden and that 1119 00:56:00,480 --> 00:56:03,080 Speaker 3: does not end well. It does not end well. So 1120 00:56:04,080 --> 00:56:07,279 Speaker 3: this is all happening before that scene where Fenton gets 1121 00:56:07,320 --> 00:56:11,880 Speaker 3: trapped in the cellar, which, by the way, his dad 1122 00:56:11,960 --> 00:56:16,719 Speaker 3: makes him dig this ten by fifteen foot cellar because 1123 00:56:16,840 --> 00:56:19,279 Speaker 3: Fenton is not a believer, like he's not seeing these 1124 00:56:19,360 --> 00:56:22,279 Speaker 3: visions and he doesn't understand this mission. So it's that 1125 00:56:22,440 --> 00:56:24,879 Speaker 3: punishment again that's kind of leaking in. And you see 1126 00:56:24,920 --> 00:56:29,759 Speaker 3: Fenton's hands are covered in blisters, and he's also punishing himself, 1127 00:56:30,120 --> 00:56:32,360 Speaker 3: like he won't wear gloves and he won't you know, 1128 00:56:32,400 --> 00:56:37,040 Speaker 3: he just won't listen to his father, even an acts 1129 00:56:37,040 --> 00:56:38,839 Speaker 3: of even when he's trying to be kind even though 1130 00:56:38,840 --> 00:56:41,000 Speaker 3: he's having him dig this hole. He's like, you know, 1131 00:56:41,040 --> 00:56:43,520 Speaker 3: I won't take aspirin, and and his dad even says 1132 00:56:43,560 --> 00:56:45,520 Speaker 3: at one point, I know you're mad at me, but 1133 00:56:45,560 --> 00:56:47,919 Speaker 3: you don't have to like punish yourself, which I thought 1134 00:56:48,000 --> 00:56:53,520 Speaker 3: was very, very poignant. But Fenton's like, I'm not punishing myself. 1135 00:56:53,520 --> 00:56:55,680 Speaker 3: I just I can't do this shit. I hate this. 1136 00:56:56,239 --> 00:56:58,959 Speaker 3: So Dad traps him in the fucking cellar for the week, 1137 00:56:59,120 --> 00:57:03,040 Speaker 3: and it's so brutal, and Adam, the poor little thing, 1138 00:57:03,120 --> 00:57:05,319 Speaker 3: is trying to like, like you said, pour water down there, 1139 00:57:05,320 --> 00:57:08,359 Speaker 3: and he's not able to eat, and he's like, Adam says, well, 1140 00:57:08,440 --> 00:57:10,200 Speaker 3: Dad's thinking about letting you out at the end of 1141 00:57:10,200 --> 00:57:14,680 Speaker 3: the week, and Fenton's like a fucking week. What, Like 1142 00:57:14,760 --> 00:57:18,320 Speaker 3: it hits him then that his dad is really off 1143 00:57:18,400 --> 00:57:21,520 Speaker 3: kilter or he believes so much in what he's doing, 1144 00:57:22,160 --> 00:57:26,760 Speaker 3: especially since angels have told Dad that Fenton was a 1145 00:57:26,800 --> 00:57:32,880 Speaker 3: demon for not believing yikes. So that made me think 1146 00:57:33,000 --> 00:57:36,520 Speaker 3: of so many instances where in real life news and 1147 00:57:36,560 --> 00:57:39,080 Speaker 3: in films where we see parents, you know, like Carrie 1148 00:57:39,120 --> 00:57:42,120 Speaker 3: and like we just see parents who are so wrapped 1149 00:57:42,200 --> 00:57:45,800 Speaker 3: up in the mythos of religion that they take it 1150 00:57:45,840 --> 00:57:49,920 Speaker 3: to this very abusive point, very abusive point. Yeah. And 1151 00:57:49,960 --> 00:57:53,120 Speaker 3: what happens to Fenton in that cellar, as he in 1152 00:57:53,160 --> 00:57:55,280 Speaker 3: that storm cellar that he dug, is that he kind 1153 00:57:55,280 --> 00:57:57,880 Speaker 3: of he goes insane and he's like, yeah, I finally 1154 00:57:57,960 --> 00:58:01,360 Speaker 3: saw God because I went nuts with no food and 1155 00:58:01,600 --> 00:58:04,440 Speaker 3: only a little bit of water and in the dark 1156 00:58:04,680 --> 00:58:07,280 Speaker 3: in a hole for a week. Of course I saw God. Yeah. 1157 00:58:07,400 --> 00:58:11,040 Speaker 3: So but that that appeases his dad. He's like, Okay, cool, 1158 00:58:11,040 --> 00:58:12,520 Speaker 3: you saw God. I don't care that you had to 1159 00:58:12,560 --> 00:58:15,440 Speaker 3: go nuts to do it. You saw God. That's all 1160 00:58:15,480 --> 00:58:19,800 Speaker 3: that matters. So when he comes out, Dad's like, all right, 1161 00:58:19,840 --> 00:58:22,640 Speaker 3: I think you're ready. It's your turn to kill someone. 1162 00:58:22,840 --> 00:58:25,440 Speaker 3: And Fenton and at him. He you know, they go 1163 00:58:25,480 --> 00:58:29,800 Speaker 3: and get this this this demon, and Fenton and Adhim 1164 00:58:29,800 --> 00:58:33,160 Speaker 3: are standing over the body and Fenton's holding Otis the 1165 00:58:33,160 --> 00:58:37,240 Speaker 3: axe and he raises the axe and then the movie 1166 00:58:37,280 --> 00:58:39,920 Speaker 3: shifts into something completely different that you just have to 1167 00:58:39,920 --> 00:58:40,720 Speaker 3: see for yourself. 1168 00:58:40,880 --> 00:58:42,520 Speaker 2: Ah. 1169 00:58:42,640 --> 00:58:44,480 Speaker 1: Yeah, I was wondering. I was like, there's no way 1170 00:58:44,480 --> 00:58:46,280 Speaker 1: she's gonna be able to tell the ending of this film. 1171 00:58:46,520 --> 00:58:49,480 Speaker 3: Hell no, hell no, you have to see it. But 1172 00:58:49,720 --> 00:58:53,280 Speaker 3: I really was surprised by the ending the first time 1173 00:58:53,320 --> 00:58:55,080 Speaker 3: I saw it, and I think that's why this movie 1174 00:58:55,080 --> 00:58:56,360 Speaker 3: stuck with me so much. 1175 00:58:56,920 --> 00:59:01,640 Speaker 1: Yeah, it it changes course several times. 1176 00:59:02,440 --> 00:59:05,919 Speaker 3: Mm hmm. What did you think about that? Like, did 1177 00:59:05,960 --> 00:59:09,600 Speaker 3: you were like this is horrible or like, well, no, 1178 00:59:09,880 --> 00:59:11,160 Speaker 3: I actually. 1179 00:59:12,240 --> 00:59:13,760 Speaker 1: There was a moment I have to admit I was 1180 00:59:13,800 --> 00:59:16,320 Speaker 1: a little confused, I think where I was just like 1181 00:59:16,360 --> 00:59:17,440 Speaker 1: wait a minute, what happened? 1182 00:59:17,480 --> 00:59:18,560 Speaker 2: Oh wait once somewhere else? 1183 00:59:18,640 --> 00:59:21,640 Speaker 1: Wait a minute, but wait, who was you know, like 1184 00:59:21,640 --> 00:59:25,520 Speaker 1: it just the big questions without giving it away, of course, 1185 00:59:25,960 --> 00:59:30,080 Speaker 1: but I to me, it goes back to like what 1186 00:59:30,600 --> 00:59:32,800 Speaker 1: you know, I think maybe you had just mentioned about 1187 00:59:32,800 --> 00:59:35,080 Speaker 1: Bill Paxton trying to make this like, you know, pretty 1188 00:59:35,120 --> 00:59:38,360 Speaker 1: taut like thriller essentially. 1189 00:59:38,560 --> 00:59:39,160 Speaker 3: Yeah, and. 1190 00:59:40,720 --> 00:59:42,240 Speaker 2: I think he's he did a good job. 1191 00:59:42,280 --> 00:59:44,760 Speaker 1: I mean I think that obviously, like there's this whole 1192 00:59:44,800 --> 00:59:47,680 Speaker 1: setup at the beginning that maybe, you know, needed to 1193 00:59:47,720 --> 00:59:49,240 Speaker 1: be a little bit more fleshed out, but then I 1194 00:59:49,320 --> 00:59:50,680 Speaker 1: questioned whether or not it needed to be. 1195 00:59:51,120 --> 00:59:52,120 Speaker 3: And then the end. 1196 00:59:53,480 --> 00:59:55,680 Speaker 2: Definitely has that twist and turn. 1197 00:59:55,520 --> 00:59:57,880 Speaker 1: That you would probably expect from a thriller like this, 1198 00:59:58,120 --> 01:00:01,720 Speaker 1: like you know, and I feel like in doing its job, 1199 01:00:01,920 --> 01:00:03,520 Speaker 1: it did a good job, you know what I mean, 1200 01:00:04,240 --> 01:00:07,160 Speaker 1: But it was it's wild, it has a wild ending, 1201 01:00:08,080 --> 01:00:13,040 Speaker 1: and I don't know, I feel like having like not 1202 01:00:13,200 --> 01:00:17,200 Speaker 1: seen this movie before and knowing who's a part of it, 1203 01:00:17,560 --> 01:00:19,800 Speaker 1: like I think it made me like it. Like like 1204 01:00:19,840 --> 01:00:21,400 Speaker 1: if I if I had just seen a movie that 1205 01:00:21,440 --> 01:00:24,160 Speaker 1: was sort of similar to this without knowing anybody in 1206 01:00:24,160 --> 01:00:25,680 Speaker 1: the movie, I probably would. 1207 01:00:25,480 --> 01:00:26,600 Speaker 2: Be like, oh, okay, interesting. 1208 01:00:26,840 --> 01:00:29,520 Speaker 1: But I like the idea that it is something that 1209 01:00:29,640 --> 01:00:32,520 Speaker 1: Bill Paxton directed and started, and you know, just knowing 1210 01:00:32,600 --> 01:00:35,400 Speaker 1: sort of about him and about how you know the 1211 01:00:35,400 --> 01:00:37,440 Speaker 1: people in this film and their Southern and I don't know, 1212 01:00:37,520 --> 01:00:39,080 Speaker 1: I just liked it like that. I liked that it 1213 01:00:39,120 --> 01:00:42,040 Speaker 1: was more a Southern Gothic tale than just agree. 1214 01:00:42,320 --> 01:00:44,240 Speaker 3: You know, I agree, And I think that, like you said, 1215 01:00:44,280 --> 01:00:46,320 Speaker 3: because of who was involved and who was in the cast, 1216 01:00:46,360 --> 01:00:51,480 Speaker 3: but particularly because of Bill Paxton, I just really wanted 1217 01:00:51,520 --> 01:00:53,480 Speaker 3: to see what his vision was for this kind of 1218 01:00:53,520 --> 01:00:56,280 Speaker 3: thriller because it's it's not something he has done before. 1219 01:00:56,320 --> 01:00:58,439 Speaker 3: He's done alien movies, like you know, like we said 1220 01:00:58,440 --> 01:01:01,640 Speaker 3: in the beginning of this Red Through the Texas Monthly 1221 01:01:01,720 --> 01:01:05,160 Speaker 3: article paragraph about him, He's done a ton of different 1222 01:01:05,240 --> 01:01:08,160 Speaker 3: roles but not like this. Yeah, and so this was 1223 01:01:08,200 --> 01:01:11,320 Speaker 3: really cool to see him direct himself and to see 1224 01:01:11,400 --> 01:01:14,600 Speaker 3: him that this is something that he was interested in, 1225 01:01:14,600 --> 01:01:16,280 Speaker 3: That this type of movie is something that he was 1226 01:01:16,320 --> 01:01:21,160 Speaker 3: interested in, was very very cool. And Yeah, I think 1227 01:01:21,200 --> 01:01:23,080 Speaker 3: it's you know, it's been twenty years. I think that 1228 01:01:23,160 --> 01:01:26,960 Speaker 3: it deserves a rewatch. And if you're looking for like 1229 01:01:27,000 --> 01:01:29,920 Speaker 3: a spooky movie or you know, psychological thriller, it's a 1230 01:01:29,960 --> 01:01:32,880 Speaker 3: great film for that. And I just mix miss Bill 1231 01:01:32,880 --> 01:01:34,800 Speaker 3: Packson every day. I do too. 1232 01:01:35,160 --> 01:01:38,800 Speaker 1: And for the theme, Dad really surefucking murdered someone. I 1233 01:01:38,800 --> 01:01:41,360 Speaker 1: gotta tell you he could not stop murdering people. 1234 01:01:42,240 --> 01:01:44,720 Speaker 3: It's like on the MIT He's like, I got seven 1235 01:01:44,960 --> 01:01:48,120 Speaker 3: goddamn bodies I gotta collect for God. You understand the 1236 01:01:48,160 --> 01:01:50,160 Speaker 3: pressure of that, son, and I have to wait till 1237 01:01:50,200 --> 01:01:51,280 Speaker 3: he tells me to kill him. 1238 01:01:53,840 --> 01:01:56,520 Speaker 1: If he hadn't looked at that trophy or whatever the 1239 01:01:56,560 --> 01:01:58,600 Speaker 1: fuck he was looking at it, and we would. 1240 01:01:58,440 --> 01:02:00,640 Speaker 2: Have had a different theme this week. 1241 01:02:00,680 --> 01:02:03,640 Speaker 3: I'm just sayingstely, if he wasn't blinded by that trophy, 1242 01:02:03,680 --> 01:02:05,240 Speaker 3: would have we would have been like, dads are great, 1243 01:02:05,320 --> 01:02:07,919 Speaker 3: we love them, they never do anything wrong, and they 1244 01:02:08,680 --> 01:02:10,120 Speaker 3: are definitely not killers. 1245 01:02:10,440 --> 01:02:12,520 Speaker 1: I just have to say, I'm so glad again that 1246 01:02:12,600 --> 01:02:15,440 Speaker 1: you have brought me to a film that I've never 1247 01:02:15,480 --> 01:02:19,360 Speaker 1: seen before. And yeah, definitely made me miss Bill Paxton 1248 01:02:19,880 --> 01:02:23,880 Speaker 1: Rip to Our King and uh yeah, it was great, 1249 01:02:24,040 --> 01:02:25,240 Speaker 1: perfect movie for the theme. 1250 01:02:26,240 --> 01:02:29,640 Speaker 3: And then there's your film well, which is also relative 1251 01:02:29,760 --> 01:02:30,880 Speaker 3: really perfect for the theme. 1252 01:02:31,560 --> 01:02:34,440 Speaker 2: Oh, I would say, I would say definitely, I'd be 1253 01:02:34,440 --> 01:02:35,040 Speaker 2: willing to venture. 1254 01:02:35,040 --> 01:02:38,200 Speaker 1: You couldn't find two better movies to talk about this week, 1255 01:02:39,000 --> 01:02:42,280 Speaker 1: the only coveat being that mine is technically about a stepfather. 1256 01:02:42,400 --> 01:02:46,120 Speaker 2: But you know what, it still works, right. 1257 01:02:45,960 --> 01:02:48,640 Speaker 3: It's oh, it absolutely works. Okay, good. 1258 01:02:49,040 --> 01:02:55,280 Speaker 1: My movie for the theme, Dad Murdered Someone is a 1259 01:02:55,320 --> 01:03:01,320 Speaker 1: movie from nineteen eighty seven. It was written by Donald E. Westlake, 1260 01:03:02,320 --> 01:03:06,400 Speaker 1: directed by Joseph Ruben, and it's called The step Father. 1261 01:03:07,760 --> 01:03:11,840 Speaker 1: He's a wonderful man and he wants to care for 1262 01:03:12,920 --> 01:03:17,000 Speaker 1: I don't know, it's just something about him. 1263 01:03:17,320 --> 01:03:19,560 Speaker 3: When you picked this movie, I lost my mond. This 1264 01:03:19,640 --> 01:03:23,800 Speaker 3: was a consummate VHS rental classic in my household. 1265 01:03:24,080 --> 01:03:26,840 Speaker 1: Oh yes, ma'am, I mean, listen, I have seen this 1266 01:03:26,880 --> 01:03:30,840 Speaker 1: movie so many times. I mean it was First of all, 1267 01:03:30,920 --> 01:03:35,080 Speaker 1: what is more eighties than a step parent themed horror movie? 1268 01:03:35,600 --> 01:03:36,600 Speaker 3: Right for real. 1269 01:03:38,600 --> 01:03:41,160 Speaker 1: You know, lots of divorce going on in the eighties 1270 01:03:41,680 --> 01:03:49,200 Speaker 1: and lots of kids having stepparents come into the fold, 1271 01:03:49,440 --> 01:03:52,880 Speaker 1: and fuck this, this hits right on time for all that. 1272 01:03:52,760 --> 01:03:55,320 Speaker 3: Shit, and I don't think anyone was happy about it. 1273 01:03:55,360 --> 01:03:57,640 Speaker 3: I don't remember a single stepparent movie in the eighties 1274 01:03:57,680 --> 01:03:59,680 Speaker 3: that was like, yay, you joined our family. It was 1275 01:03:59,680 --> 01:04:04,000 Speaker 3: always like this motherfucker right here, yeah, exactly exactly. 1276 01:04:04,880 --> 01:04:07,240 Speaker 1: So I think it's perfect for that that little time 1277 01:04:07,280 --> 01:04:09,000 Speaker 1: and place that we had back then. 1278 01:04:09,520 --> 01:04:10,880 Speaker 3: And you know, we. 1279 01:04:10,920 --> 01:04:14,400 Speaker 1: Talked about slashers before in some of our earlier episodes, 1280 01:04:14,480 --> 01:04:16,800 Speaker 1: Like I think we talked about the concept of the 1281 01:04:16,800 --> 01:04:20,440 Speaker 1: slasher when I did like Black Christmas or something. But honestly, 1282 01:04:20,440 --> 01:04:23,000 Speaker 1: if you're hesitant, and there's a lot of people who are, 1283 01:04:23,080 --> 01:04:26,760 Speaker 1: if you're hesitant about watching slasher movies, Honestly, to me, 1284 01:04:26,920 --> 01:04:30,920 Speaker 1: the Stepfather is I know it's considered a slasher, but 1285 01:04:31,200 --> 01:04:33,480 Speaker 1: it's basically like an R rated Lifetime movie. 1286 01:04:33,520 --> 01:04:35,760 Speaker 3: And I'm meaning that with all due respect. That is, 1287 01:04:35,920 --> 01:04:37,200 Speaker 3: I mean that with all due respect. 1288 01:04:38,600 --> 01:04:41,560 Speaker 1: And you know, maybe maybe it is like six and 1289 01:04:41,560 --> 01:04:43,000 Speaker 1: one and a half dozen then the other when it 1290 01:04:43,000 --> 01:04:45,560 Speaker 1: comes to that, but you know, Anyway, I think this 1291 01:04:45,640 --> 01:04:48,200 Speaker 1: movie is both of our childhoods wrapped up into one 1292 01:04:48,280 --> 01:04:51,080 Speaker 1: VHS tape. I love talking about this being on Father's 1293 01:04:51,160 --> 01:04:54,400 Speaker 1: Day though, because here's the thing. I want to say 1294 01:04:54,440 --> 01:04:57,680 Speaker 1: this on reck on record. The star of this film 1295 01:04:57,720 --> 01:05:01,520 Speaker 1: is Terry O'Quinn, and I am sorry lost fans, I 1296 01:05:01,600 --> 01:05:05,439 Speaker 1: never saw it, but this is his quintessential role. 1297 01:05:05,880 --> 01:05:06,440 Speaker 3: Absolutely. 1298 01:05:06,640 --> 01:05:09,760 Speaker 1: I hate to disrupt your feelings about John Locke, but 1299 01:05:10,120 --> 01:05:15,520 Speaker 1: this is Terry o'quinn's diamond that I saw lost. 1300 01:05:15,280 --> 01:05:17,160 Speaker 3: And that guess what I said when I saw him 1301 01:05:17,200 --> 01:05:22,919 Speaker 3: un lost? Oh shit, there's a stepfather exactly, this is it. 1302 01:05:23,040 --> 01:05:26,520 Speaker 3: This is the role that made him a star in 1303 01:05:26,600 --> 01:05:29,919 Speaker 3: my eyes and in most of our eyes exactly. And listen. 1304 01:05:30,040 --> 01:05:33,560 Speaker 1: I say this as someone who truly believed that his 1305 01:05:33,840 --> 01:05:38,720 Speaker 1: role as the dad from the dB sweety classic The 1306 01:05:38,800 --> 01:05:40,880 Speaker 1: Cutting Edge was his best. 1307 01:05:42,480 --> 01:05:45,360 Speaker 3: Like I actually saw the stepfather. 1308 01:05:46,640 --> 01:05:49,240 Speaker 1: I think I saw the stepfather after the Cutting Edge, 1309 01:05:49,280 --> 01:05:52,960 Speaker 1: like not too far after the Cutting Edge, and I 1310 01:05:53,080 --> 01:05:53,400 Speaker 1: was like. 1311 01:05:53,800 --> 01:05:56,920 Speaker 2: Holy shit, what have I what have I been thinking? 1312 01:05:57,000 --> 01:05:59,479 Speaker 2: This just blows my mind, Like that's the dad. 1313 01:05:59,520 --> 01:06:03,320 Speaker 1: That's more Elly's dad from the Cutting Edge. 1314 01:06:03,840 --> 01:06:04,600 Speaker 2: But here's the thing. 1315 01:06:05,800 --> 01:06:09,880 Speaker 1: He is legit good in The Stepfather, and he doesn't 1316 01:06:09,880 --> 01:06:13,200 Speaker 1: even have to be He doesn't have to be exactly 1317 01:06:13,680 --> 01:06:16,360 Speaker 1: like he's a great actor, oh my god, like he 1318 01:06:17,800 --> 01:06:20,840 Speaker 1: listen for a slasher film, for an R rated Lifetime 1319 01:06:20,840 --> 01:06:21,959 Speaker 1: movie in nineteen eighty seven. 1320 01:06:22,080 --> 01:06:22,720 Speaker 3: He didn't have to be. 1321 01:06:22,800 --> 01:06:27,080 Speaker 1: As good, but he was, and this movie is made 1322 01:06:27,440 --> 01:06:30,600 Speaker 1: much better by him being in it, in my opinion. 1323 01:06:31,560 --> 01:06:35,280 Speaker 1: So now that we've stayed a legend, A one sentenced 1324 01:06:35,280 --> 01:06:37,840 Speaker 1: synopsis of The Stepfather, who. 1325 01:06:37,680 --> 01:06:39,680 Speaker 3: At this moment, at the time of recording, has not 1326 01:06:39,760 --> 01:06:41,000 Speaker 3: done anything wild. 1327 01:06:41,320 --> 01:06:46,800 Speaker 1: Yes, at the time of the recording, he seems to 1328 01:06:46,880 --> 01:06:50,000 Speaker 1: be okay, but as we know from this film, things 1329 01:06:50,000 --> 01:06:51,000 Speaker 1: can change on a time. 1330 01:06:51,240 --> 01:06:52,840 Speaker 2: Things can change on a fucking time. 1331 01:06:55,880 --> 01:06:59,960 Speaker 1: A one sentence synopsis of The Stepfather is a psych 1332 01:07:00,160 --> 01:07:05,320 Speaker 1: go serial killer uses a series of disguises to infiltrate 1333 01:07:05,440 --> 01:07:10,560 Speaker 1: the families of single mothers and their children and murdering 1334 01:07:10,680 --> 01:07:14,120 Speaker 1: them when they fail to live up to his incredibly 1335 01:07:14,240 --> 01:07:15,120 Speaker 1: high standards. 1336 01:07:16,040 --> 01:07:17,560 Speaker 3: Perfection. Perfection. 1337 01:07:19,680 --> 01:07:21,920 Speaker 1: All right, So just to kind of go over some 1338 01:07:21,960 --> 01:07:23,840 Speaker 1: of the beats of this film. First of all, like 1339 01:07:23,880 --> 01:07:25,720 Speaker 1: I always say, I love when a horror movie gets 1340 01:07:25,800 --> 01:07:27,360 Speaker 1: going in the first few minutes. 1341 01:07:27,480 --> 01:07:29,600 Speaker 2: That is fucking great. 1342 01:07:30,240 --> 01:07:33,400 Speaker 1: Because I have seen many horror movies where literally nothing 1343 01:07:33,440 --> 01:07:35,439 Speaker 1: happens for forty five minutes, and I'm like, I love 1344 01:07:35,440 --> 01:07:37,960 Speaker 1: it when it comes out the gate killing. 1345 01:07:39,040 --> 01:07:41,120 Speaker 3: Those movies were like the monster doesn't even appear to 1346 01:07:41,240 --> 01:07:45,120 Speaker 3: like the end, and you're like, come on, seriously, And 1347 01:07:45,160 --> 01:07:48,360 Speaker 3: then you have the Stepfather that's like, here's eighteen gallons 1348 01:07:48,360 --> 01:07:52,280 Speaker 3: of blood, let's get into it within two minutes. Yeah, 1349 01:07:52,280 --> 01:07:54,680 Speaker 3: you don't even you don't know what's going on, but 1350 01:07:54,760 --> 01:07:55,840 Speaker 3: here's a bunch of blood. 1351 01:07:56,080 --> 01:07:58,760 Speaker 1: Yeah, and here's the thing. The first few minutes of 1352 01:07:58,800 --> 01:08:01,280 Speaker 1: the fucking movie, it's like, oh, guess what. An entire 1353 01:08:01,360 --> 01:08:04,760 Speaker 1: family has been murdered, including the children, Okay, in this house, 1354 01:08:05,640 --> 01:08:10,160 Speaker 1: and there's this man named Henry Morrison, Okay, and he's 1355 01:08:10,160 --> 01:08:13,200 Speaker 1: stepping over the bodies, and it's very clear that he 1356 01:08:13,280 --> 01:08:13,880 Speaker 1: did this shit. 1357 01:08:13,960 --> 01:08:14,760 Speaker 3: It's very clear. 1358 01:08:14,760 --> 01:08:17,240 Speaker 1: And I said, first five minutes of the film is 1359 01:08:17,320 --> 01:08:19,559 Speaker 1: like right out the gate. So then he goes up 1360 01:08:19,600 --> 01:08:21,759 Speaker 1: to the bathroom of the house and he starts cleaning 1361 01:08:21,760 --> 01:08:25,280 Speaker 1: the blood off of his hands, takes a shower, and 1362 01:08:25,360 --> 01:08:31,880 Speaker 1: we immediately get a tario quinsick shot. Okay, five minutes 1363 01:08:31,920 --> 01:08:36,160 Speaker 1: in the film, there was full frontal mail and I 1364 01:08:36,200 --> 01:08:39,600 Speaker 1: know you're asking me, were you ready to see his 1365 01:08:39,800 --> 01:08:42,000 Speaker 1: complex sensual humanity. 1366 01:08:41,520 --> 01:08:42,120 Speaker 2: In this moment? 1367 01:08:44,000 --> 01:08:44,160 Speaker 3: Ah? 1368 01:08:44,880 --> 01:08:47,160 Speaker 2: Not really, to be honest. 1369 01:08:47,160 --> 01:08:49,800 Speaker 3: Not covered in blood after he just stepped over a 1370 01:08:50,040 --> 01:08:51,960 Speaker 3: child that he slashed up. 1371 01:08:52,640 --> 01:08:57,439 Speaker 1: Yes, was I ready to see him naked washing blood, 1372 01:08:58,160 --> 01:09:00,519 Speaker 1: the blood of his family off of his No and bondy. 1373 01:09:00,640 --> 01:09:03,040 Speaker 3: No, I was not ready for that. But are you 1374 01:09:03,080 --> 01:09:05,840 Speaker 3: ever really ready to see someone washing their family's blood 1375 01:09:05,840 --> 01:09:11,760 Speaker 3: off their dick? I don't know. Not my thing, it's 1376 01:09:11,840 --> 01:09:20,880 Speaker 3: not my thing. I just knocked my mic over. I'm sorry. 1377 01:09:21,400 --> 01:09:28,960 Speaker 2: I'm so completely flustered by that sheer notion. Oh well, so. 1378 01:09:29,040 --> 01:09:32,920 Speaker 1: Yes, right out the gate, it is intense, right And 1379 01:09:33,800 --> 01:09:36,559 Speaker 1: after this moment, you're like, oh, this Henry Morrison guy, 1380 01:09:36,640 --> 01:09:39,479 Speaker 1: he's changed his entire look. Like, he puts on his suit, 1381 01:09:40,240 --> 01:09:43,880 Speaker 1: he takes his like weird puby fake beard off, walks 1382 01:09:43,920 --> 01:09:46,639 Speaker 1: out the door, and you're like, oh shit, this guy 1383 01:09:46,680 --> 01:09:49,320 Speaker 1: has done this before, Like, come on, this guy's too 1384 01:09:49,600 --> 01:09:52,519 Speaker 1: slick of a customer to not have done this before. 1385 01:09:52,840 --> 01:09:56,599 Speaker 1: So then you cut to a year later. Henry is 1386 01:09:56,680 --> 01:10:00,000 Speaker 1: now a man named Jerry Blake. He's a real estate 1387 01:10:00,479 --> 01:10:04,479 Speaker 1: in a town in Seattle, or near Seattle, Washington and 1388 01:10:04,520 --> 01:10:07,439 Speaker 1: he has a brand new family. Okay, he's got a 1389 01:10:07,439 --> 01:10:10,920 Speaker 1: wife named Susan. She's played by the actress Shelley Hack, 1390 01:10:11,040 --> 01:10:13,919 Speaker 1: who I know was in a season of Charlie's Angels. 1391 01:10:14,520 --> 01:10:17,160 Speaker 1: But possibly more interesting for me personally is that she 1392 01:10:17,400 --> 01:10:22,600 Speaker 1: was a woman who was the representative of the Charlie perfume. 1393 01:10:23,840 --> 01:10:28,680 Speaker 1: Oh yeah, in the seventies and eighties. That is a 1394 01:10:28,720 --> 01:10:30,960 Speaker 1: perfume that it wore literally every day in fifth and 1395 01:10:31,000 --> 01:10:37,200 Speaker 1: sixth grade. Charlie White was my signature scent in middle school. 1396 01:10:38,120 --> 01:10:42,439 Speaker 1: So I know a little about Shelley Hack because of 1397 01:10:42,520 --> 01:10:43,160 Speaker 1: Charlie White. 1398 01:10:43,320 --> 01:10:45,519 Speaker 3: This ame I love so much. That there were all 1399 01:10:45,560 --> 01:10:49,360 Speaker 3: these perfumes that were marketed towards adult women but were 1400 01:10:49,400 --> 01:10:53,800 Speaker 3: only purchased by teenage girls. Yeah. 1401 01:10:53,840 --> 01:10:56,599 Speaker 1: It was like any kind of like drugstore perfume that 1402 01:10:57,439 --> 01:10:59,400 Speaker 1: looked like it was for a forty seven year old 1403 01:10:59,720 --> 01:11:00,240 Speaker 1: was my shit. 1404 01:11:00,360 --> 01:11:06,000 Speaker 2: Like, I'm like, Navy Charlie, what was the one? Fuck 1405 01:11:06,160 --> 01:11:08,200 Speaker 2: not it's not wind song, but it was something. 1406 01:11:08,400 --> 01:11:08,640 Speaker 1: It was. 1407 01:11:08,680 --> 01:11:14,479 Speaker 4: It had a very like oh, Angelie, I just saw 1408 01:11:14,520 --> 01:11:17,920 Speaker 4: your shoulders movement and I'm like, yeah, Ali, I could 1409 01:11:17,920 --> 01:11:19,840 Speaker 4: bring home the bacon fry it up in a pan 1410 01:11:21,040 --> 01:11:22,800 Speaker 4: and never let you forget your old man. 1411 01:11:25,360 --> 01:11:30,280 Speaker 1: At some point I changed my scent to Palumo Picasso. 1412 01:11:30,439 --> 01:11:34,280 Speaker 3: Oh hell dude, it was a mess. I was a mess. 1413 01:11:34,600 --> 01:11:38,480 Speaker 3: It was mall had Do you remember perfume Maania Fuck. 1414 01:11:38,680 --> 01:11:42,080 Speaker 1: Yes, the story that madiact So of course I knew 1415 01:11:42,080 --> 01:11:43,920 Speaker 1: the Perfumania. Ah. 1416 01:11:44,000 --> 01:11:47,799 Speaker 3: That story gave me an instant headache. My friends always 1417 01:11:47,800 --> 01:11:49,280 Speaker 3: wanted to go into it, and I'm like, I will 1418 01:11:49,280 --> 01:11:53,040 Speaker 3: be at cinnabun goodbye. 1419 01:11:53,920 --> 01:11:57,559 Speaker 1: Well that that was how I was able to, you know, 1420 01:11:57,760 --> 01:12:00,240 Speaker 1: show my opulence when I was twelve years old old, 1421 01:12:00,400 --> 01:12:05,040 Speaker 1: was to get really into signature sense. But anyway, Shelly 1422 01:12:05,040 --> 01:12:09,639 Speaker 1: Hack was the Charlie Girl. God bless so. Jerry Blake 1423 01:12:09,680 --> 01:12:13,080 Speaker 1: also now has a sixteen year old stepdaughter named Stephanie, 1424 01:12:13,120 --> 01:12:16,880 Speaker 1: who's played by the actress Jill Sholin. Okay, and right 1425 01:12:16,920 --> 01:12:20,559 Speaker 1: off the bat, Stephanie is creeped out by Jerry. She's like, 1426 01:12:21,160 --> 01:12:23,920 Speaker 1: I mean, he has a naturally psychotic look in his eye, 1427 01:12:24,120 --> 01:12:27,320 Speaker 1: don't get me wrong, but he also is this like 1428 01:12:27,400 --> 01:12:29,880 Speaker 1: weird traditionalist mm hm. 1429 01:12:30,720 --> 01:12:34,040 Speaker 3: Oh yeah, he's so old fashioned. And Stephanie is not 1430 01:12:34,080 --> 01:12:36,600 Speaker 3: only smart, but she has very good gut instincts. 1431 01:12:37,160 --> 01:12:40,160 Speaker 1: Oh for sure, which is great. I mean, we love that. 1432 01:12:40,240 --> 01:12:43,599 Speaker 1: In a final Girl in All Horror is like very smart, 1433 01:12:43,760 --> 01:12:47,559 Speaker 1: very intuitive, and she's like this fucking guy is obsessed 1434 01:12:47,560 --> 01:12:50,120 Speaker 1: with like the nineteen to fifties nuclear family and he's 1435 01:12:50,120 --> 01:12:53,200 Speaker 1: all about some mister ed and he loves like. 1436 01:12:53,600 --> 01:13:00,160 Speaker 2: Wearing a suit to Thanksgiving. Blew my mind seeing that. 1437 01:13:01,000 --> 01:13:05,439 Speaker 1: And so it's revealed in this in the beginning of 1438 01:13:05,479 --> 01:13:10,439 Speaker 1: the film that her real dad died like a year ago, 1439 01:13:10,600 --> 01:13:13,760 Speaker 1: a year before, and she's having a really hard time 1440 01:13:13,800 --> 01:13:15,880 Speaker 1: with it. And here's the thing too, is like I 1441 01:13:15,920 --> 01:13:17,680 Speaker 1: when I was watching it again for the episode, I 1442 01:13:17,720 --> 01:13:22,760 Speaker 1: was like, damn, so based on the timeline of the film, 1443 01:13:23,080 --> 01:13:26,000 Speaker 1: it seemed like the mom the father died and then 1444 01:13:26,000 --> 01:13:28,479 Speaker 1: the mom started immediately dating Jerry. 1445 01:13:28,880 --> 01:13:31,320 Speaker 3: Yeah, like within a month maybe, yeah. 1446 01:13:31,439 --> 01:13:37,080 Speaker 1: So naturally, Stephanie has been in therapy and she's also 1447 01:13:37,120 --> 01:13:39,360 Speaker 1: been getting in trouble at school. And there's this like 1448 01:13:39,520 --> 01:13:42,720 Speaker 1: epic fucking scene where Stephanie is fighting a girl in 1449 01:13:42,760 --> 01:13:44,000 Speaker 1: her art class. 1450 01:13:44,040 --> 01:13:47,439 Speaker 3: And it's rad. I love it. I love it. The 1451 01:13:47,479 --> 01:13:50,240 Speaker 3: green paint all over the place, and like she is 1452 01:13:50,280 --> 01:13:52,559 Speaker 3: a scrapper, like she's she's the kind of teenage girl 1453 01:13:52,600 --> 01:13:54,639 Speaker 3: that you're like if she discovered punk rock, she would 1454 01:13:54,640 --> 01:13:58,679 Speaker 3: be fine, Oh my god. Until then, she's just gonna 1455 01:13:58,680 --> 01:14:01,360 Speaker 3: have to fight her way through it. And Jerry is like, oh, 1456 01:14:01,439 --> 01:14:03,680 Speaker 3: are you still upset? Because she gets expelled and he's like, 1457 01:14:03,800 --> 01:14:06,799 Speaker 3: are you still upset? And I'm like, yeah, she gotta expelled, Jerry, 1458 01:14:07,360 --> 01:14:08,840 Speaker 3: of course she's fucking upset. 1459 01:14:08,920 --> 01:14:11,439 Speaker 1: Right, And then she's like listen. Stephanie is like, I 1460 01:14:11,479 --> 01:14:12,840 Speaker 1: want to get the fuck out of here. She's like, 1461 01:14:12,880 --> 01:14:15,200 Speaker 1: send me to boarding school. I'm so bad, send me 1462 01:14:15,240 --> 01:14:18,439 Speaker 1: to boarding school. And the weirdest part is that Jerry's like, oh, no, 1463 01:14:18,920 --> 01:14:21,120 Speaker 1: you can't leave, Like you can't leave the house, Like 1464 01:14:21,400 --> 01:14:23,720 Speaker 1: there's not a family without children. I think that's his 1465 01:14:23,840 --> 01:14:27,160 Speaker 1: like one of his classic lines, and it's very creepy. 1466 01:14:27,320 --> 01:14:30,200 Speaker 1: I'm like, I don't know, dad, like maybe she should 1467 01:14:30,200 --> 01:14:33,320 Speaker 1: go learn some law and order, but he refuses to letter, 1468 01:14:33,600 --> 01:14:34,559 Speaker 1: you know, and it's weird. 1469 01:14:34,760 --> 01:14:36,639 Speaker 3: That's a weird stance for a parent to take when 1470 01:14:36,680 --> 01:14:39,080 Speaker 3: your kid has been expelled, even if you're a stepparent, 1471 01:14:39,400 --> 01:14:42,200 Speaker 3: it's like, yeah, send her somewhere where she'll be happier 1472 01:14:42,280 --> 01:14:46,280 Speaker 3: and more well adjusted. Yeah, Like, especially if I'm a 1473 01:14:46,320 --> 01:14:49,080 Speaker 3: step mom and you're fighting in our class. Get the 1474 01:14:49,080 --> 01:14:50,240 Speaker 3: fuck out of here. I don't want to deal with 1475 01:14:50,240 --> 01:14:50,559 Speaker 3: this shit. 1476 01:14:51,120 --> 01:14:53,760 Speaker 1: Yeah, and most kids do not want to go to 1477 01:14:53,760 --> 01:14:57,120 Speaker 1: boarding school, but here's one that's like, please let me go, and. 1478 01:14:56,920 --> 01:14:57,719 Speaker 3: You're like no. 1479 01:14:58,640 --> 01:15:01,280 Speaker 1: But the thing we find out quickly about Jerry is 1480 01:15:01,320 --> 01:15:06,200 Speaker 1: that he's fucking obsessed with like the veneer of this 1481 01:15:06,479 --> 01:15:10,719 Speaker 1: perfect family because again he's obsessed with tradition and obsessed 1482 01:15:10,760 --> 01:15:14,599 Speaker 1: with like family values. And when shit goes wrong in 1483 01:15:14,640 --> 01:15:19,000 Speaker 1: that regard, he goes into the basement and flips the 1484 01:15:19,120 --> 01:15:20,759 Speaker 1: fuck out on some power tools. 1485 01:15:21,720 --> 01:15:27,360 Speaker 3: It is scary as shit. He he's again such a 1486 01:15:27,360 --> 01:15:31,559 Speaker 3: good actor. That scene is wild, but he is truly 1487 01:15:31,600 --> 01:15:32,280 Speaker 3: going through it. 1488 01:15:32,800 --> 01:15:35,679 Speaker 1: Yeah, this is when Terry O'Quinn really shows this chips 1489 01:15:35,720 --> 01:15:37,680 Speaker 1: as an actor, because you're like, man, he was like 1490 01:15:37,720 --> 01:15:41,080 Speaker 1: this really like mild mannered, like sweet man, and then 1491 01:15:41,120 --> 01:15:44,880 Speaker 1: he just fucking goes insane in the basement and you're like, 1492 01:15:45,760 --> 01:15:48,519 Speaker 1: dimn Like, this guy's got some fucking range. 1493 01:15:49,040 --> 01:15:51,680 Speaker 2: So while this is happening. 1494 01:15:51,400 --> 01:15:57,040 Speaker 1: The brother of the wife from his former family right 1495 01:15:57,120 --> 01:15:59,599 Speaker 1: that he murdered in the first five minutes of the film, 1496 01:16:00,520 --> 01:16:04,960 Speaker 1: this brother is trying to solve this case of his 1497 01:16:05,120 --> 01:16:06,920 Speaker 1: murdered sister and her entire. 1498 01:16:06,760 --> 01:16:11,320 Speaker 2: Family, which has somehow gone cold. Yeah, and this to 1499 01:16:11,400 --> 01:16:11,920 Speaker 2: me is. 1500 01:16:11,840 --> 01:16:14,840 Speaker 1: The big like WTF moment for this film for me, 1501 01:16:14,880 --> 01:16:18,599 Speaker 1: because Okay, apparently the case has gone cold because there's 1502 01:16:18,600 --> 01:16:22,400 Speaker 1: no prints, there's no leads, even though the paper, the 1503 01:16:22,520 --> 01:16:26,720 Speaker 1: local newspaper, happens to have like this full on headshot 1504 01:16:26,840 --> 01:16:28,040 Speaker 1: of Henry Morsey. 1505 01:16:28,680 --> 01:16:32,960 Speaker 3: Okay, we need to talk about this headshot. When I 1506 01:16:33,000 --> 01:16:36,479 Speaker 3: saw this picture, I'm like that alone, you're a suspect. 1507 01:16:36,520 --> 01:16:39,439 Speaker 3: To me, You're a fucking dude who breezes into town 1508 01:16:39,479 --> 01:16:43,920 Speaker 3: with a headshot and then you hang out with this 1509 01:16:44,000 --> 01:16:46,280 Speaker 3: family and you're gone, Like what. 1510 01:16:48,160 --> 01:16:50,559 Speaker 1: And I gotta say, I feel like the cops in 1511 01:16:50,600 --> 01:16:53,680 Speaker 1: Seattle or wherever the fact this is, they're possibly like. 1512 01:16:53,760 --> 01:16:58,240 Speaker 3: The dumbest cops in film history. Okay, especially because like 1513 01:16:58,360 --> 01:17:00,479 Speaker 3: this dude lived there and was pretending to be the 1514 01:17:00,560 --> 01:17:03,080 Speaker 3: dead of this family. He had to have left his 1515 01:17:03,120 --> 01:17:05,800 Speaker 3: prints on like the toaster or something. It's not like 1516 01:17:05,840 --> 01:17:07,600 Speaker 3: he lit a matchine walked away from the house and 1517 01:17:07,640 --> 01:17:09,920 Speaker 3: burnt it to the ground. Everything was still in there. 1518 01:17:10,320 --> 01:17:12,240 Speaker 1: Yeah, It's like, did he pick up like a fucking 1519 01:17:12,560 --> 01:17:14,320 Speaker 1: cross stitch pillow at one point? 1520 01:17:14,320 --> 01:17:16,000 Speaker 2: And put it back in the chair. You couldn't get 1521 01:17:16,040 --> 01:17:18,599 Speaker 2: prints off that or anything. 1522 01:17:18,760 --> 01:17:20,880 Speaker 3: Like, come on, dudes, he was swinging that dick all 1523 01:17:20,880 --> 01:17:26,759 Speaker 3: over the bathroom. He mustn't left DNA somewhere. He's dick, blood, DNA, 1524 01:17:27,040 --> 01:17:31,120 Speaker 3: nothing right, there's gotta be something in that bathroom alone. 1525 01:17:31,240 --> 01:17:31,680 Speaker 3: Come on. 1526 01:17:32,160 --> 01:17:33,280 Speaker 2: Well, and then here's the thing. 1527 01:17:33,400 --> 01:17:36,320 Speaker 1: So the brother is like coming in being like, yo, 1528 01:17:36,360 --> 01:17:39,040 Speaker 1: we gotta figure out who killed my sister. And they're like, sorry, 1529 01:17:39,120 --> 01:17:42,080 Speaker 1: we can't figure this out. Here's the thing. Maybe you 1530 01:17:42,120 --> 01:17:48,480 Speaker 1: should just kill him if you see him. The detective 1531 01:17:48,560 --> 01:17:50,800 Speaker 1: is like, you know what, you might have to kill 1532 01:17:50,880 --> 01:17:51,560 Speaker 1: him yourself. 1533 01:17:53,280 --> 01:17:57,240 Speaker 3: What That scene made me laugh so hard because he's 1534 01:17:57,360 --> 01:18:00,200 Speaker 3: his brother like this Jim Oglevie Guy's like, Yo, my 1535 01:18:00,240 --> 01:18:03,120 Speaker 3: sister and all my nieces and nephews were fucking stone 1536 01:18:03,160 --> 01:18:05,599 Speaker 3: cold and murdered. Can you do anything? And he's like, 1537 01:18:06,120 --> 01:18:08,479 Speaker 3: I don't know. Maybe maybe if I were you, I 1538 01:18:08,520 --> 01:18:10,760 Speaker 3: would just kill him, kill him myself. And I'm like, 1539 01:18:10,760 --> 01:18:13,599 Speaker 3: that is absolutely not what this like, you're completely misreading 1540 01:18:13,600 --> 01:18:17,000 Speaker 3: the situation. You are a cop. He is asking for 1541 01:18:17,040 --> 01:18:21,400 Speaker 3: your help. He's not asking for permission to become a vigilante. Yes, exactly. 1542 01:18:21,439 --> 01:18:22,880 Speaker 2: It's like, well, we couldn't figure it out, why don't 1543 01:18:22,880 --> 01:18:24,080 Speaker 2: you just go ahead and kill this person? 1544 01:18:26,200 --> 01:18:26,920 Speaker 3: So wild? 1545 01:18:27,120 --> 01:18:30,120 Speaker 1: So here's the thing, So steph you know, Stephanie at 1546 01:18:30,120 --> 01:18:33,160 Speaker 1: one point sees Jerry flipping out the basement as he does, 1547 01:18:33,200 --> 01:18:35,240 Speaker 1: and she's immediately all right, this guy sucks. 1548 01:18:35,240 --> 01:18:37,760 Speaker 2: I gotta figure this out. So she actually writes to 1549 01:18:37,760 --> 01:18:39,960 Speaker 2: the newspaper to be like, can I get. 1550 01:18:39,760 --> 01:18:43,840 Speaker 1: This headshot of this full body headshot that he did 1551 01:18:43,840 --> 01:18:46,800 Speaker 1: at Olin Mills or wherever the fuck? Like, can I 1552 01:18:46,840 --> 01:18:50,160 Speaker 1: get that from you guys? And like, again, they have 1553 01:18:50,160 --> 01:18:52,360 Speaker 1: a picture of this guy. They can't solve this. 1554 01:18:52,280 --> 01:18:53,200 Speaker 2: Thing at all. 1555 01:18:53,600 --> 01:18:56,880 Speaker 3: They got a picture of him. Yes, and when he 1556 01:18:56,960 --> 01:18:59,120 Speaker 3: was at fuck I remember when when Jerry was down 1557 01:18:59,160 --> 01:19:04,360 Speaker 3: at Zany's doing set and he got that headshot when 1558 01:19:04,360 --> 01:19:08,160 Speaker 3: he was in the comedy Seller's still nothing, nothing, dudes, 1559 01:19:08,200 --> 01:19:11,080 Speaker 3: You can't just like fucking and look, I was watching 1560 01:19:11,360 --> 01:19:13,400 Speaker 3: America's Most Wanted at this point. They could have done 1561 01:19:13,400 --> 01:19:16,240 Speaker 3: a clay head, they could have done a composite. Yes, 1562 01:19:16,320 --> 01:19:17,720 Speaker 3: they have the deck. Yes. 1563 01:19:18,000 --> 01:19:21,599 Speaker 1: I was like, there's no way that John Walsh would 1564 01:19:21,600 --> 01:19:24,479 Speaker 1: not be on this shit. Come on, that's a That's 1565 01:19:24,520 --> 01:19:26,040 Speaker 1: the one part of the movie that I'm like, but 1566 01:19:26,120 --> 01:19:28,120 Speaker 1: come on now, they would have shown the headshot and 1567 01:19:28,160 --> 01:19:30,880 Speaker 1: he would have been a caller would have figured it out, 1568 01:19:31,360 --> 01:19:32,040 Speaker 1: a meeting call. 1569 01:19:32,439 --> 01:19:34,320 Speaker 3: A caller would have been like, that is a fake 1570 01:19:34,360 --> 01:19:36,920 Speaker 3: ass beard held on with some spirit gum and I 1571 01:19:36,960 --> 01:19:38,840 Speaker 3: can't believe you all. Then figure this shit out. Just 1572 01:19:38,880 --> 01:19:41,840 Speaker 3: take that fucking just erase that fake beard from the picture, 1573 01:19:41,840 --> 01:19:42,679 Speaker 3: and you got him. 1574 01:19:42,880 --> 01:19:45,320 Speaker 2: Yeah, because Jerry Blake is out here. 1575 01:19:45,520 --> 01:19:47,519 Speaker 1: That's the thing is that he's not like he's not 1576 01:19:47,640 --> 01:19:49,600 Speaker 1: sitting in the basement and doing nothing else. He is 1577 01:19:49,680 --> 01:19:52,679 Speaker 1: out here, like co mingling with the neighborhood. He's having 1578 01:19:52,680 --> 01:19:56,160 Speaker 1: fucking barbecues. He's a fucking real estate agent, meaning his 1579 01:19:56,439 --> 01:19:59,759 Speaker 1: photo is probably on people's sides in the front yard. 1580 01:20:00,080 --> 01:20:03,440 Speaker 3: And you have to like, uh, who yo. 1581 01:20:03,240 --> 01:20:04,720 Speaker 1: I guess we're just gonna have to get some guy 1582 01:20:04,720 --> 01:20:06,920 Speaker 1: to kill him so we don't have to do anything. 1583 01:20:07,400 --> 01:20:10,759 Speaker 3: And he's like twenty minutes away. So crazy. 1584 01:20:11,960 --> 01:20:15,880 Speaker 2: So you know, Stephanie asks the paper for this photograph. 1585 01:20:15,280 --> 01:20:20,360 Speaker 1: And duh, you know, Jerry comes home, checks the mail, sees, huh, 1586 01:20:20,360 --> 01:20:24,080 Speaker 1: a newspaper is writing my stepdaughter, and then realizes that 1587 01:20:24,120 --> 01:20:26,040 Speaker 1: she asks for his goddamn. 1588 01:20:25,520 --> 01:20:29,400 Speaker 2: Photo, and then he's like, oh shit, she knows, and then. 1589 01:20:29,439 --> 01:20:33,679 Speaker 1: He transfers it with another headshot of some other person. 1590 01:20:34,360 --> 01:20:37,320 Speaker 3: He does he does some eighties photoshop, which is basically, 1591 01:20:37,400 --> 01:20:41,080 Speaker 3: I have to go to the photographer in town and 1592 01:20:41,200 --> 01:20:46,360 Speaker 3: just buy a fucking headshot from somebody else, and. 1593 01:20:46,280 --> 01:20:48,519 Speaker 1: Then I'm gonna put it in this envelope and put 1594 01:20:48,520 --> 01:20:49,439 Speaker 1: it back in the mailbox. 1595 01:20:49,439 --> 01:20:50,640 Speaker 2: And my daughter thinks it's not me. 1596 01:20:51,520 --> 01:20:53,840 Speaker 1: And so so what ends up happening is Stephanie gets 1597 01:20:53,840 --> 01:20:56,720 Speaker 1: her therapist involved, and you know, he of course, he's 1598 01:20:56,760 --> 01:20:58,800 Speaker 1: the only adult in her life that she can actually 1599 01:20:58,840 --> 01:21:01,680 Speaker 1: trust at this point, and so the therapist is like 1600 01:21:02,320 --> 01:21:04,000 Speaker 1: doing a little of his own dirty work. 1601 01:21:04,040 --> 01:21:06,360 Speaker 2: He actually goes he pretends. 1602 01:21:05,920 --> 01:21:10,200 Speaker 1: To be interested in a house and just so he 1603 01:21:10,200 --> 01:21:12,599 Speaker 1: could meet with Jerry to kind of sniff him out. 1604 01:21:12,960 --> 01:21:17,200 Speaker 1: And Jerry ends up murdering the therapist in the house. Okay, 1605 01:21:17,880 --> 01:21:21,080 Speaker 1: He puts the guy's body in his own damn car. 1606 01:21:21,720 --> 01:21:24,040 Speaker 1: He lights a rag in the gas stag and then 1607 01:21:24,160 --> 01:21:25,080 Speaker 1: pushes the car. 1608 01:21:25,000 --> 01:21:25,840 Speaker 2: Down the embankment. 1609 01:21:26,400 --> 01:21:29,120 Speaker 3: A classic murder move, dude. 1610 01:21:29,320 --> 01:21:33,559 Speaker 1: And this guy is no limit, as we know, and 1611 01:21:33,600 --> 01:21:35,240 Speaker 1: Stephanie meanwhile. 1612 01:21:36,520 --> 01:21:37,040 Speaker 2: Comes home. 1613 01:21:37,160 --> 01:21:38,880 Speaker 1: He comes home the next day and tells her that 1614 01:21:38,960 --> 01:21:42,320 Speaker 1: her therapist is dead. He drove down an embankment or 1615 01:21:42,320 --> 01:21:45,559 Speaker 1: whatever lie he created. And then, weirdly enough, I think 1616 01:21:45,600 --> 01:21:48,320 Speaker 1: Stephanie starting to like warm up to him a little bit, 1617 01:21:48,360 --> 01:21:50,559 Speaker 1: which is a really weird moment because you know, she 1618 01:21:50,600 --> 01:21:52,960 Speaker 1: was so suspicious of him. But then she's like, well, 1619 01:21:53,000 --> 01:21:55,080 Speaker 1: the paper sent me a photograph and it's not him, 1620 01:21:55,160 --> 01:21:56,960 Speaker 1: And then you know, I don't know, he seemed to 1621 01:21:57,000 --> 01:22:00,639 Speaker 1: be sensitive telling me that my therapist mysterious died. 1622 01:22:01,840 --> 01:22:03,519 Speaker 2: So she starts warming up to him. 1623 01:22:04,320 --> 01:22:07,840 Speaker 1: But then, of course that goes out the window when 1624 01:22:08,200 --> 01:22:10,320 Speaker 1: she's out one night with one of the guys from 1625 01:22:10,320 --> 01:22:13,160 Speaker 1: her school and it's a guy she has a crush on, 1626 01:22:13,360 --> 01:22:15,439 Speaker 1: and they start kissing a little bit in front of 1627 01:22:15,479 --> 01:22:19,599 Speaker 1: her house, and he opens the fucking door, seees it 1628 01:22:19,640 --> 01:22:25,679 Speaker 1: is happening and loses his goddamn mind. Is like claiming 1629 01:22:25,760 --> 01:22:30,680 Speaker 1: that this kid is like sexually molesting his daughter and 1630 01:22:31,880 --> 01:22:35,880 Speaker 1: it's disruptive to the perfect nuclear family which he wants 1631 01:22:35,920 --> 01:22:36,479 Speaker 1: so badly. 1632 01:22:36,680 --> 01:22:40,280 Speaker 2: And then truly, from this point, all hell breaks loose. 1633 01:22:40,320 --> 01:22:41,360 Speaker 2: I mean that's all I can say. 1634 01:22:41,800 --> 01:22:44,559 Speaker 3: Oh breaks loose all over the place. 1635 01:22:45,720 --> 01:22:50,040 Speaker 1: Yes, And like I said earlier, this entire film is 1636 01:22:50,120 --> 01:22:51,960 Speaker 1: Terry O'Quinn for me. I mean, he did not have 1637 01:22:52,080 --> 01:22:55,000 Speaker 1: to be this good at all, but he was, and 1638 01:22:55,040 --> 01:22:59,080 Speaker 1: we are thankful and they actually made They ended up 1639 01:22:59,080 --> 01:23:02,160 Speaker 1: making like two, I think two sequels to this movie, 1640 01:23:02,280 --> 01:23:04,400 Speaker 1: one in eighty nine and I think the other one 1641 01:23:04,400 --> 01:23:07,360 Speaker 1: was in like ninety two, and there was apparently a 1642 01:23:07,439 --> 01:23:11,320 Speaker 1: remake of it in two thousand and nine where I 1643 01:23:11,360 --> 01:23:14,880 Speaker 1: think that it's like Penn Badshly or somebody is like, 1644 01:23:15,320 --> 01:23:18,080 Speaker 1: there's not the daughter, it's like a son or something. 1645 01:23:19,920 --> 01:23:22,040 Speaker 1: All I know is that it has an eleven percent 1646 01:23:22,080 --> 01:23:24,719 Speaker 1: approval rating on Rotten Tomatoes, which I gotta be honest. 1647 01:23:25,320 --> 01:23:28,920 Speaker 1: Has that ever fucking stopped me from watching a goddamn thing? 1648 01:23:29,080 --> 01:23:31,800 Speaker 2: No, hell no, So I might have to. 1649 01:23:31,720 --> 01:23:36,479 Speaker 3: Crack it open. But I love that you picked this movie. 1650 01:23:36,640 --> 01:23:40,120 Speaker 3: I love this movie. I think that the ending of 1651 01:23:40,160 --> 01:23:42,760 Speaker 3: the movie is so It's still so great in that 1652 01:23:42,800 --> 01:23:47,400 Speaker 3: slasher tradition, but it takes to just another level and 1653 01:23:47,439 --> 01:23:50,640 Speaker 3: I love it. I just love watching him become unhinged 1654 01:23:51,040 --> 01:23:53,160 Speaker 3: all over this movie, because, like I said, I feel 1655 01:23:53,240 --> 01:23:56,280 Speaker 3: like all dads are always on the cusp of snapping. 1656 01:23:57,160 --> 01:24:02,160 Speaker 1: Oh yeah, and it's also again like nude equity, as 1657 01:24:02,200 --> 01:24:04,800 Speaker 1: we talked about in the Dongissance. I mean, this may 1658 01:24:04,800 --> 01:24:07,679 Speaker 1: be an early early entry into the donaissance, who knows, 1659 01:24:07,720 --> 01:24:10,439 Speaker 1: but like, there ain't a naked woman in this movie 1660 01:24:10,479 --> 01:24:13,679 Speaker 1: at all. And then you see dong within the first 1661 01:24:13,680 --> 01:24:16,599 Speaker 1: five minutes, I think, I mean, I don't know if 1662 01:24:16,640 --> 01:24:18,120 Speaker 1: that's feminists, but I'm. 1663 01:24:17,960 --> 01:24:22,280 Speaker 3: Just saying, and I gotta say, it's eighties dong. So 1664 01:24:22,320 --> 01:24:27,439 Speaker 3: there's no trimin happening. It is own natural dog. 1665 01:24:28,200 --> 01:24:32,320 Speaker 2: There's no dog extensions like they are apparently using in minks. 1666 01:24:35,280 --> 01:24:37,479 Speaker 1: People have been pointing that out to me, by the way, 1667 01:24:37,520 --> 01:24:39,800 Speaker 1: since we talked about the Donissants, They're like, well, did 1668 01:24:39,840 --> 01:24:43,040 Speaker 1: you know that they're using like prosthetic extensions on the 1669 01:24:43,080 --> 01:24:45,519 Speaker 1: dongs and minx And I'm like, what. 1670 01:24:46,240 --> 01:24:48,720 Speaker 3: Rememberwood Kurt Bronholer was on the show and he was 1671 01:24:48,800 --> 01:24:53,519 Speaker 3: telling us about the prosthetic they used it buggy nights, 1672 01:24:53,920 --> 01:24:57,080 Speaker 3: Like we've been on this prosthetic dig beat for a while, yes, 1673 01:24:57,200 --> 01:24:59,960 Speaker 3: And I like, again a salute Titario Quinn is like 1674 01:25:00,200 --> 01:25:03,320 Speaker 3: we're showing it warts and all, like this is just 1675 01:25:03,400 --> 01:25:06,759 Speaker 3: who I had this, my eighties dick in full view. 1676 01:25:07,920 --> 01:25:10,160 Speaker 2: Good for him. 1677 01:25:10,720 --> 01:25:15,799 Speaker 3: What a note to end on for the Stepfather. Listen. 1678 01:25:17,000 --> 01:25:21,360 Speaker 1: I truly loved talking about these movies this week, Like, 1679 01:25:21,720 --> 01:25:24,080 Speaker 1: I definitely think that, like they're perfect for our theme 1680 01:25:24,720 --> 01:25:25,719 Speaker 1: for Father's Day. 1681 01:25:26,600 --> 01:25:29,000 Speaker 2: Dad's out here murdering people left and right. 1682 01:25:30,280 --> 01:25:35,240 Speaker 1: Stepdads, biological Dads, Dad figures. And I hope you had 1683 01:25:35,280 --> 01:25:38,200 Speaker 1: a good time talking about these movies. Hopefully you watch them. 1684 01:25:38,800 --> 01:25:39,840 Speaker 1: Definitely got to watch them. 1685 01:25:40,160 --> 01:25:42,479 Speaker 3: You gotta watch them. I love these movies. I think 1686 01:25:42,560 --> 01:25:46,200 Speaker 3: it was a good mix this week. And yeah, like 1687 01:25:46,200 --> 01:25:47,600 Speaker 3: you said, that was hanging out on the calendar for 1688 01:25:47,680 --> 01:25:48,880 Speaker 3: a while and I'm like, what are we gonna do 1689 01:25:48,880 --> 01:25:51,080 Speaker 3: with this? I just feel like it's a good, something 1690 01:25:51,080 --> 01:25:54,000 Speaker 3: good to dig into. And then when it hit hard 1691 01:25:54,000 --> 01:25:56,200 Speaker 3: and you put in your movie, I laughed my ass off. 1692 01:25:57,680 --> 01:25:59,880 Speaker 3: And I love any chance to talk about Bill Paxson. 1693 01:26:00,000 --> 01:26:00,840 Speaker 3: We missed that dude. 1694 01:26:00,960 --> 01:26:01,639 Speaker 2: We missed him. 1695 01:26:02,000 --> 01:26:07,400 Speaker 1: Rip, we miss you, We miss your legend. Okay, So 1696 01:26:07,640 --> 01:26:10,760 Speaker 1: if you want to email us, please do so. We're 1697 01:26:10,760 --> 01:26:13,719 Speaker 1: at I saw what she did pot at gmail dot com. 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No one can see this, 1726 01:27:39,360 --> 01:27:41,719 Speaker 1: but Danielle's wearing one of our T shirts right now. 1727 01:27:42,520 --> 01:27:48,960 Speaker 1: There's stylish. Go over to exactlyrightmedia dot com. There's a 1728 01:27:49,040 --> 01:27:49,719 Speaker 1: shop there. 1729 01:27:49,920 --> 01:27:53,120 Speaker 3: You can get everything your heart's desire and right now. 1730 01:27:53,160 --> 01:27:55,040 Speaker 3: It's also the only place where you can get assigned 1731 01:27:55,080 --> 01:27:56,080 Speaker 3: copy of my book. 1732 01:27:56,840 --> 01:27:59,280 Speaker 2: Totally, and that is so awesome. 1733 01:27:59,360 --> 01:28:02,519 Speaker 1: I'm so glad that that exists for everybody, and everybody 1734 01:28:02,560 --> 01:28:06,519 Speaker 1: should read Daniel's book because it's amazing. Next week we 1735 01:28:06,600 --> 01:28:10,000 Speaker 1: get more doozies, we sure do. 1736 01:28:10,000 --> 01:28:11,639 Speaker 2: Do you want to tell them what we're watching? 1737 01:28:12,479 --> 01:28:16,519 Speaker 3: Oh? Of course. So our movies for next week are 1738 01:28:17,320 --> 01:28:21,960 Speaker 3: My Beautiful Laundrette from nineteen eighty five. But I'm a 1739 01:28:22,040 --> 01:28:24,040 Speaker 3: Cheerleader from nineteen ninety nine. 1740 01:28:24,280 --> 01:28:27,000 Speaker 2: Oh my god, so fun. I can't wait to see 1741 01:28:27,000 --> 01:28:30,400 Speaker 2: those both again. Danielle. 1742 01:28:30,439 --> 01:28:31,879 Speaker 3: As always, it's a pleasure. 1743 01:28:32,080 --> 01:28:35,759 Speaker 1: Thank you for being nice, thank you for being kind, 1744 01:28:36,280 --> 01:28:39,280 Speaker 1: thank you for sticking up for the people of the 1745 01:28:39,280 --> 01:28:43,040 Speaker 1: world that need it. And it was so glad talking 1746 01:28:43,080 --> 01:28:46,200 Speaker 1: to you about murdering fathers. 1747 01:28:46,640 --> 01:28:48,040 Speaker 3: Look, any day of the week doesn't even have to 1748 01:28:48,040 --> 01:28:49,800 Speaker 3: be Father's Day. We can talk about it next week too. 1749 01:28:51,760 --> 01:28:52,960 Speaker 2: I'm taking you up on that. 1750 01:28:54,479 --> 01:28:56,280 Speaker 3: I'm always ready to talk about a dad who's about 1751 01:28:56,280 --> 01:28:56,679 Speaker 3: to snap. 1752 01:28:59,479 --> 01:29:03,400 Speaker 1: See you guys, Yes, next time, boys lead. 1753 01:29:10,360 --> 01:29:13,080 Speaker 3: This has been an exactly right production, produced and mixed 1754 01:29:13,120 --> 01:29:16,200 Speaker 3: by Casey O'Brien. Our theme song is by Tom bry Fogel. 1755 01:29:16,520 --> 01:29:20,280 Speaker 3: Artwork by Garrett Ross. Our executive producers are Georgia Hartstark, 1756 01:29:20,320 --> 01:29:23,080 Speaker 3: Carnkle Garett, and Daniel Kramer. You can follow us on 1757 01:29:23,120 --> 01:29:26,080 Speaker 3: Instagram and Twitter at I Saw pod, and you can 1758 01:29:26,160 --> 01:29:28,439 Speaker 3: email us at I Saw What You Did Pod at 1759 01:29:28,439 --> 01:29:28,839 Speaker 3: gmail