1 00:00:00,120 --> 00:00:02,480 Speaker 1: Hey discos, you can listen to an extended version of 2 00:00:02,520 --> 00:00:06,240 Speaker 1: this after party episode by becoming a member of Disgraceland 3 00:00:06,440 --> 00:00:11,360 Speaker 1: All Access. Just go to disgracelanmdpod dot com slash membership 4 00:00:11,400 --> 00:00:14,360 Speaker 1: for more details and to sign up. Hey guys, welcome 5 00:00:14,400 --> 00:00:16,840 Speaker 1: to Disgraceland, which is brought to you by Double Elvis. 6 00:00:16,880 --> 00:00:18,800 Speaker 1: This week we have a brand new episode on van 7 00:00:18,880 --> 00:00:22,640 Speaker 1: Halen in the Disgraceland Feed. We also have a brand 8 00:00:22,680 --> 00:00:27,320 Speaker 1: new exclusive episode on Lanes Daily of Alison chains Now 9 00:00:27,360 --> 00:00:30,000 Speaker 1: that is available to our all Access members and our 10 00:00:30,040 --> 00:00:33,040 Speaker 1: Patreon and Apple subscription feeds, So be sure to make 11 00:00:33,040 --> 00:00:36,240 Speaker 1: sure you're all signed up for our all access content 12 00:00:36,520 --> 00:00:40,000 Speaker 1: either on Apple Podcasts or on Patreon. And speaking of 13 00:00:40,080 --> 00:00:43,519 Speaker 1: van Halen, over in the Shred with Shifty Feed, Chris 14 00:00:43,600 --> 00:00:46,040 Speaker 1: from the Foo Fighters Chris Shiftlett has a new episode 15 00:00:46,040 --> 00:00:49,720 Speaker 1: featuring Eddie van Halen's son, Wolfgang van Halen. So check 16 00:00:49,760 --> 00:00:51,599 Speaker 1: that out. That's a Double Elvis production. You're gonna want 17 00:00:51,600 --> 00:00:54,279 Speaker 1: to hear that all Right, after Party, here we go, 18 00:00:57,280 --> 00:01:00,320 Speaker 1: Hey discos, need a little more disgrace Land in your life? 19 00:01:00,680 --> 00:01:03,560 Speaker 2: Just a touch to get you through? Yeah, me too. 20 00:01:04,240 --> 00:01:07,480 Speaker 1: This is the podcast that comes after the podcast Welcome 21 00:01:07,520 --> 00:01:26,280 Speaker 1: to Disgraceland The after Party. Welcome to the Disgraceland bonus episode, 22 00:01:26,360 --> 00:01:28,680 Speaker 1: a little thing we like to call the after Party. 23 00:01:28,880 --> 00:01:31,360 Speaker 1: This is the show after the show, the party after 24 00:01:31,360 --> 00:01:33,119 Speaker 1: the party, the bridge to gave from one full episode 25 00:01:33,120 --> 00:01:35,720 Speaker 1: of Disgraceland to the other, the backyard to dig into 26 00:01:35,840 --> 00:01:39,280 Speaker 1: the dirt. On this episode, we are talking about our 27 00:01:39,400 --> 00:01:42,800 Speaker 1: brand new episode on Van Halen, the sources we use 28 00:01:42,840 --> 00:01:45,600 Speaker 1: for this episode which helped us uncover a crazy story 29 00:01:45,600 --> 00:01:48,000 Speaker 1: about how the band partnered with the US Marshals to 30 00:01:48,040 --> 00:01:52,000 Speaker 1: bust a bootleg merchandise ring. Also another brand new episode 31 00:01:52,000 --> 00:01:55,400 Speaker 1: this week, an exclusive episode on Lane stately of Alison Chains, 32 00:01:55,400 --> 00:01:59,160 Speaker 1: available to our All Access members and of course your voicemails, 33 00:01:59,200 --> 00:02:01,920 Speaker 1: text DM and more and as always, a whole lot 34 00:02:01,920 --> 00:02:02,320 Speaker 1: of Rosie. 35 00:02:02,320 --> 00:02:06,080 Speaker 2: All right, disc goes, Let's get into it. 36 00:02:18,760 --> 00:02:22,000 Speaker 1: I made my parents buy me a knockoff red stratocaster 37 00:02:22,120 --> 00:02:24,720 Speaker 1: from the Sears catalog just so I could hockey tape 38 00:02:24,760 --> 00:02:27,120 Speaker 1: the shit out of it. The first riff I ever 39 00:02:27,160 --> 00:02:29,720 Speaker 1: attempted to play on guitar was you Really Got Me? 40 00:02:29,760 --> 00:02:32,359 Speaker 1: And it wasn't because of the Kinks. First bong hit 41 00:02:32,360 --> 00:02:34,359 Speaker 1: I ever took was in the backseat of Richie Hoak's 42 00:02:34,360 --> 00:02:38,200 Speaker 1: shipbox with eruption bleeding my ears and blowing my mind. 43 00:02:38,880 --> 00:02:42,399 Speaker 1: Eddie van Halen made his guitar in that song sound 44 00:02:42,520 --> 00:02:46,200 Speaker 1: like aliens were landing, and his music made me feel 45 00:02:46,240 --> 00:02:50,680 Speaker 1: something different, older, dangerous, like a card carrying member of 46 00:02:50,720 --> 00:02:54,960 Speaker 1: teenage Wasteland. Eddie van Halen was everywhere during my youth, 47 00:02:55,240 --> 00:02:58,120 Speaker 1: and he deserved to be. He was that good, that 48 00:02:58,360 --> 00:03:04,600 Speaker 1: inventive mind blowing, a fucking beast whose influence is immeasurable. 49 00:03:05,240 --> 00:03:09,200 Speaker 1: I even secretly like those awful Van hagartoons that came later. 50 00:03:09,320 --> 00:03:11,840 Speaker 1: I still do, but don't tell anyone. Rest in peace, 51 00:03:12,280 --> 00:03:15,560 Speaker 1: Eddie van Hallen. I wrote those words back in October 52 00:03:15,560 --> 00:03:17,959 Speaker 1: twenty twenty when Eddie van Halen passed away, and I 53 00:03:18,000 --> 00:03:20,080 Speaker 1: went and dug them up this morning before recording this, 54 00:03:20,120 --> 00:03:22,919 Speaker 1: to remind myself of what Eddie van Halen has meant 55 00:03:22,960 --> 00:03:25,280 Speaker 1: to me, not just as a musician, which I barely 56 00:03:25,320 --> 00:03:29,360 Speaker 1: am anymore, but more as a music listener. It's hard 57 00:03:29,360 --> 00:03:33,440 Speaker 1: to expect anyone who was not a teenager in the 58 00:03:33,520 --> 00:03:36,680 Speaker 1: nineteen seventies, the nineteen eighties, or the nineteen nineties to 59 00:03:36,880 --> 00:03:42,280 Speaker 1: understand the actual importance of Eddie Van Halen. Sure you 60 00:03:42,320 --> 00:03:44,640 Speaker 1: can imagine that the guy had a thing, that he 61 00:03:44,800 --> 00:03:47,640 Speaker 1: was a thing, that he was a guy. Okay, you 62 00:03:47,680 --> 00:03:50,160 Speaker 1: can imagine that he even he that he was or 63 00:03:50,360 --> 00:03:55,640 Speaker 1: is iconic, that sly smile, that that wacko, like I 64 00:03:55,720 --> 00:03:59,120 Speaker 1: mentioned before, hockey tape guitar design, the red strat with 65 00:03:59,120 --> 00:04:02,760 Speaker 1: the white stripes may even when you hear him, you 66 00:04:02,800 --> 00:04:05,840 Speaker 1: start to understand that his sound was unique and that 67 00:04:05,920 --> 00:04:10,280 Speaker 1: he was this unique player in rock and roll. But 68 00:04:10,960 --> 00:04:13,920 Speaker 1: to fully understand, I think it's a you had to 69 00:04:14,000 --> 00:04:15,840 Speaker 1: be there kind of thing. And I'm not trying to 70 00:04:15,880 --> 00:04:19,240 Speaker 1: sound like the old cool dude nothing that those things 71 00:04:19,279 --> 00:04:21,400 Speaker 1: can co exist old and cool. Of course they can, 72 00:04:21,680 --> 00:04:23,440 Speaker 1: but that's not what I'm trying to do. When we 73 00:04:23,440 --> 00:04:26,480 Speaker 1: were kids, we would argue about who the greatest living 74 00:04:26,480 --> 00:04:29,320 Speaker 1: guitar player was, and you almost wouldn't even talk about 75 00:04:29,360 --> 00:04:31,560 Speaker 1: Eddie Van Hallen in the context of that argument because 76 00:04:31,560 --> 00:04:34,640 Speaker 1: it was a conversation ender. It was just known that 77 00:04:34,720 --> 00:04:37,600 Speaker 1: he was the best. Sure, you could argue about angs 78 00:04:37,680 --> 00:04:41,160 Speaker 1: young Steve I or pick your guitar player whoever else 79 00:04:41,200 --> 00:04:43,440 Speaker 1: was gracing the pages of Hipparader that month, but you 80 00:04:43,440 --> 00:04:46,159 Speaker 1: couldn't choose Eddie unless you wanted to shut the conversation 81 00:04:46,320 --> 00:04:49,560 Speaker 1: down and you know, talk about something else, football or 82 00:04:49,720 --> 00:04:52,200 Speaker 1: maybe steer the hang toward a game and spin the 83 00:04:52,200 --> 00:04:55,320 Speaker 1: bottle or something. Eddie van Halen was truly the best, 84 00:04:56,000 --> 00:04:59,080 Speaker 1: and van Halen, the David Lee Roth version and the 85 00:04:59,120 --> 00:05:03,600 Speaker 1: Sammy Hagar were worthy of Eddie's immense talents. They made 86 00:05:03,760 --> 00:05:06,440 Speaker 1: great music, and in the here and now, a day 87 00:05:06,440 --> 00:05:09,080 Speaker 1: after the release of our Van Halen Disgraceland episode, as 88 00:05:09,080 --> 00:05:11,440 Speaker 1: I walk around the world thinking about the band, I 89 00:05:11,520 --> 00:05:14,000 Speaker 1: find them to be wildly compelling. Still to this day. 90 00:05:14,040 --> 00:05:17,120 Speaker 1: They prompt a lot of fucking questions, all right. The 91 00:05:17,200 --> 00:05:19,600 Speaker 1: obvious one was Eddie van Haleen, the greatest rock and 92 00:05:19,680 --> 00:05:22,039 Speaker 1: roll guitarist of all time. I put a list of 93 00:05:22,120 --> 00:05:25,279 Speaker 1: five five guitar players together up on Instagram yesterday and 94 00:05:25,320 --> 00:05:28,240 Speaker 1: it was like throwing bloody chum into a pool of 95 00:05:28,760 --> 00:05:33,279 Speaker 1: fucking hammerheads. Everyone has an opinion relative to Eddie's greatness. 96 00:05:33,279 --> 00:05:37,720 Speaker 1: The five guitarists I listed were Eddie Hendrix, Jimmy Page, 97 00:05:38,040 --> 00:05:40,960 Speaker 1: Eric Clapton, and Stevie Rayvaughn. Now, of course it's a list, 98 00:05:41,000 --> 00:05:44,120 Speaker 1: it's subjective. It's just my opinion. Man, Actually it's not 99 00:05:44,160 --> 00:05:46,880 Speaker 1: even my opinion. I just wanted five guitarists that I 100 00:05:46,880 --> 00:05:49,840 Speaker 1: thought were universally thought of as being the greatest in 101 00:05:49,960 --> 00:05:52,599 Speaker 1: rock and roll. Clapton and Stevie Yvaughn wouldn't be on 102 00:05:52,680 --> 00:05:54,960 Speaker 1: my list, but that's not the point. Eddie would be 103 00:05:54,960 --> 00:05:56,919 Speaker 1: at worse second, and like I said in the post, 104 00:05:56,920 --> 00:05:58,640 Speaker 1: I can make an argument as to why he could 105 00:05:58,680 --> 00:06:02,760 Speaker 1: be first. People, of course were super passionate about their 106 00:06:02,800 --> 00:06:05,960 Speaker 1: five picks, but almost no one doubted the importance and 107 00:06:06,000 --> 00:06:08,320 Speaker 1: the placement of Eddie van Halen on the list, and 108 00:06:08,400 --> 00:06:10,320 Speaker 1: I can't say the same for any of the others 109 00:06:10,320 --> 00:06:13,640 Speaker 1: except for Hendrix. That makes my point Eddie van Halen 110 00:06:13,880 --> 00:06:17,839 Speaker 1: totally unique, not just another great guitar player. One of 111 00:06:17,920 --> 00:06:21,360 Speaker 1: the greatest, may be the greatest, definitely in the top two. 112 00:06:21,720 --> 00:06:25,680 Speaker 1: That's my opinion. Come at me with Jeff Beck. All 113 00:06:25,760 --> 00:06:29,680 Speaker 1: you want Eddie van Halen all day, every day over 114 00:06:29,760 --> 00:06:35,320 Speaker 1: Jeff Beck just saying so. Driving around yesterday admittedly probably 115 00:06:35,360 --> 00:06:38,240 Speaker 1: a little too fast, and listening to Dreams by Sammy 116 00:06:38,279 --> 00:06:41,120 Speaker 1: Hagar from the Sammy Hagar version of Van Halen, I 117 00:06:41,120 --> 00:06:44,560 Speaker 1: should say, a song that I hated growing up but 118 00:06:44,680 --> 00:06:47,760 Speaker 1: have now somehow found space four Nostalgia will do that, 119 00:06:47,800 --> 00:06:51,440 Speaker 1: I guess. But anyways, when listening to Dreams and Best 120 00:06:51,480 --> 00:06:53,919 Speaker 1: of Both Worlds, I can't believe I'm saying this and 121 00:06:53,960 --> 00:06:58,440 Speaker 1: other Hagar tunes. It prompted another question, this one I've 122 00:06:58,520 --> 00:07:00,680 Speaker 1: yet to ask, and it's this, is Van Halen the 123 00:07:00,680 --> 00:07:04,040 Speaker 1: greatest band ever rebound from the departure of the original singer? 124 00:07:04,440 --> 00:07:09,840 Speaker 1: The contenders ACDC? Of course, Black Sabbath Foreigner. I guess 125 00:07:10,120 --> 00:07:12,520 Speaker 1: Audio Slave and Velvet Revolver need to be included in 126 00:07:12,560 --> 00:07:15,720 Speaker 1: this list, even though they changed the names from Arraging 127 00:07:15,720 --> 00:07:20,320 Speaker 1: Against the Machine and Guns n' Roses, and I know 128 00:07:20,440 --> 00:07:23,720 Speaker 1: Van Hallen and they prompt this question, and I like that. 129 00:07:24,280 --> 00:07:29,040 Speaker 1: But HM better than Dio's version of Black Sabbath. I 130 00:07:29,120 --> 00:07:34,239 Speaker 1: don't know, maybe maybe certainly a bigger impact I think 131 00:07:34,600 --> 00:07:37,160 Speaker 1: culturally now that I'm thinking about it, But better than 132 00:07:37,200 --> 00:07:40,920 Speaker 1: ACDC Brian Johnson's ACDC. Not that I'm saying Brian Johnson's 133 00:07:40,960 --> 00:07:43,960 Speaker 1: ACDC was better than Bond Scott's ACDC, because it definitely 134 00:07:44,000 --> 00:07:47,680 Speaker 1: was not. But I still think Brian Johnson's ACDC is 135 00:07:47,720 --> 00:07:50,600 Speaker 1: better than Sammy Hagar's Van Halen. Now do we dock 136 00:07:50,760 --> 00:07:53,280 Speaker 1: Van Halen for the Gary Sharon era. That is the 137 00:07:53,360 --> 00:07:56,560 Speaker 1: real question. No, no shade to Gary Sharon. But I mean, 138 00:07:56,560 --> 00:08:00,240 Speaker 1: come on, all right. Another question, this one prompted also 139 00:08:00,280 --> 00:08:02,480 Speaker 1: while driving around yesterday and listening to Van Halen but 140 00:08:02,520 --> 00:08:05,240 Speaker 1: listening to the David Lee Roth era. There are good 141 00:08:05,280 --> 00:08:08,080 Speaker 1: cover songs and there are great cover songs. To me, 142 00:08:08,560 --> 00:08:11,280 Speaker 1: good cover songs are fine. There are plenty of them, 143 00:08:11,400 --> 00:08:13,240 Speaker 1: and sometimes it's just fun to hear a band that 144 00:08:13,760 --> 00:08:15,640 Speaker 1: you really like mess with the song with another band 145 00:08:15,640 --> 00:08:17,840 Speaker 1: that you really like. Those are good cover songs. Faith 146 00:08:17,880 --> 00:08:21,120 Speaker 1: No More covering Warpigs by Black Sabbath, The Beatles covering 147 00:08:21,200 --> 00:08:24,559 Speaker 1: Anna by Arthur Alexander, The Supersuckers, and Steve Earle covering 148 00:08:24,640 --> 00:08:26,960 Speaker 1: Keith richards Is before They Make Me Run. These are 149 00:08:27,000 --> 00:08:30,600 Speaker 1: all perfectly good cover songs. Songs. I love versions, I 150 00:08:30,680 --> 00:08:34,160 Speaker 1: love covers I actually seek out to listen to. But 151 00:08:34,280 --> 00:08:39,640 Speaker 1: then there are great cover songs. The difference is any 152 00:08:39,760 --> 00:08:42,040 Speaker 1: musician can learn someone else's song and learn how to 153 00:08:42,040 --> 00:08:44,800 Speaker 1: play it and play it well, even even do it 154 00:08:44,800 --> 00:08:47,840 Speaker 1: in their own style. But it takes a special musician 155 00:08:47,920 --> 00:08:51,400 Speaker 1: to record someone else's song and make you forget about 156 00:08:51,400 --> 00:08:54,679 Speaker 1: the original or to be more kind to record someone 157 00:08:54,679 --> 00:08:57,600 Speaker 1: else's song and completely turn it into their own, into 158 00:08:57,640 --> 00:09:01,160 Speaker 1: something totally new and unique, something that wouldn't have existed 159 00:09:01,200 --> 00:09:05,040 Speaker 1: without their hands being on it. Stevie Rayvaughn's version of 160 00:09:05,040 --> 00:09:07,480 Speaker 1: Little Wing by Jimmy Hendricks is a good cover, but 161 00:09:07,559 --> 00:09:11,000 Speaker 1: it doesn't take the song anywhere new now Jimmy Hendricks 162 00:09:11,000 --> 00:09:14,000 Speaker 1: cover of All Along the Watchtower by Bob Dylan made 163 00:09:14,080 --> 00:09:17,480 Speaker 1: Bob Dylan never want to play his song his way again. 164 00:09:17,800 --> 00:09:21,480 Speaker 1: He only now plays it Hendrix's way. Okay, that's what 165 00:09:21,559 --> 00:09:24,719 Speaker 1: I'm talking about. I love Roy Orbison, and I love 166 00:09:24,840 --> 00:09:28,120 Speaker 1: Roy Orbison's Pretty Woman, but Roy Orbison's Pretty Woman doesn't 167 00:09:28,160 --> 00:09:29,880 Speaker 1: make me feel like I'm in a deleted scene from 168 00:09:29,920 --> 00:09:33,000 Speaker 1: Fast Times at Ridgemont High. Roy Orbison's Pretty Woman doesn't 169 00:09:33,000 --> 00:09:34,680 Speaker 1: make me feel like I want to go pound beers 170 00:09:34,720 --> 00:09:36,560 Speaker 1: up at the tracks with my friends from high school. 171 00:09:36,760 --> 00:09:38,760 Speaker 1: Roy Orbison's Pretty Woman doesn't make me want to learn 172 00:09:38,800 --> 00:09:42,040 Speaker 1: how to play guitar. Eddie Van Halen's version a Pretty 173 00:09:42,040 --> 00:09:44,720 Speaker 1: Woman makes me want to do all those things and more, 174 00:09:44,840 --> 00:09:47,040 Speaker 1: and has since the first time I heard it, and 175 00:09:47,080 --> 00:09:50,000 Speaker 1: hearing it again yesterday when driving around it walloped me 176 00:09:50,440 --> 00:09:53,880 Speaker 1: that guitar playing that sound in tone, the harmonies from 177 00:09:53,920 --> 00:09:57,080 Speaker 1: the band, the incredible charisma from David Lee Roth, and 178 00:09:57,200 --> 00:09:59,600 Speaker 1: light of the greatest guitar player question we're asking, I 179 00:09:59,600 --> 00:10:03,040 Speaker 1: got to ask ask another super obvious question. Is Pretty 180 00:10:03,040 --> 00:10:06,160 Speaker 1: Woman the greatest example of a cover being better than 181 00:10:06,200 --> 00:10:06,840 Speaker 1: the original? 182 00:10:07,120 --> 00:10:08,400 Speaker 2: If not, let me. 183 00:10:08,400 --> 00:10:10,679 Speaker 1: Know what is six one seven, nine oh six six 184 00:10:10,800 --> 00:10:13,040 Speaker 1: six three eight. And while we're at it, also let 185 00:10:13,040 --> 00:10:14,920 Speaker 1: me know who your number one pick for greatest rock 186 00:10:14,920 --> 00:10:17,280 Speaker 1: and roll guitar player of all time is? Is it 187 00:10:17,400 --> 00:10:20,920 Speaker 1: Eddie Van Halen? Is it Jimmy Hendrix? Is it Gulp? There, 188 00:10:20,960 --> 00:10:24,800 Speaker 1: I say, Tom Morello, Jeff Beck, Jack fucking White, It's not. 189 00:10:24,960 --> 00:10:26,160 Speaker 2: But I just got to throw it out there. 190 00:10:26,240 --> 00:10:28,880 Speaker 1: Someone else let me know six one seven, nine oh 191 00:10:28,920 --> 00:10:31,320 Speaker 1: six six six three eight. I'm gonna take a quick 192 00:10:31,320 --> 00:10:33,720 Speaker 1: break and I'll be back in the flash to discuss 193 00:10:33,760 --> 00:10:36,520 Speaker 1: some of the sources behind this episode. And some dude 194 00:10:36,520 --> 00:11:00,839 Speaker 1: with a red baseball cap. All right, let's talk Van 195 00:11:00,880 --> 00:11:03,320 Speaker 1: Halen sources. There are two primary books that we use 196 00:11:03,360 --> 00:11:05,880 Speaker 1: for this episode. And remember this episode focuses entirely on 197 00:11:05,920 --> 00:11:08,360 Speaker 1: the first incarnation of Van Hallen, with Davidlye Roth as 198 00:11:08,400 --> 00:11:10,960 Speaker 1: the front man. Will we do a van Hagar episode, 199 00:11:11,000 --> 00:11:13,800 Speaker 1: Will we get back into the later David Lee Roth 200 00:11:13,840 --> 00:11:17,160 Speaker 1: Reunited days? We got to do it, all right, I'm 201 00:11:17,160 --> 00:11:19,880 Speaker 1: just saying it now, even though, like two after parties ago, 202 00:11:19,960 --> 00:11:22,679 Speaker 1: I said no more two part episodes, But there's so 203 00:11:22,880 --> 00:11:26,000 Speaker 1: much more to this freaking band story that Yeah, at 204 00:11:26,040 --> 00:11:28,080 Speaker 1: some point we will do a part two, I'm sure 205 00:11:28,080 --> 00:11:31,560 Speaker 1: of it. The first book we used for this episode 206 00:11:31,640 --> 00:11:33,920 Speaker 1: is called Running with the Devil, A backstage Pass to 207 00:11:33,960 --> 00:11:36,360 Speaker 1: the Wild Times, Loud, Rocking Down and Dirty Truth Beyond 208 00:11:36,400 --> 00:11:37,200 Speaker 1: the Making of Van Halen. 209 00:11:37,240 --> 00:11:39,800 Speaker 2: This was written by Noel Monk. Okay, this guy. 210 00:11:39,840 --> 00:11:41,719 Speaker 1: You might recognize this name if you just listen to 211 00:11:41,720 --> 00:11:45,640 Speaker 1: the van Halen episode we released. Noel Monk features prominently 212 00:11:45,679 --> 00:11:48,760 Speaker 1: in that episode. He was at the time van Halen's manager. 213 00:11:48,800 --> 00:11:51,520 Speaker 1: He was first their tour manager and then he became 214 00:11:51,559 --> 00:11:55,240 Speaker 1: their actual manager later on. And this book is jam 215 00:11:55,400 --> 00:11:59,560 Speaker 1: packed with not so not so behavior crazy Shit's where 216 00:11:59,559 --> 00:12:01,640 Speaker 1: we got all the stuff on van Halen's team going 217 00:12:01,679 --> 00:12:03,960 Speaker 1: after merch bootleggers with the help of US marshals, The 218 00:12:03,960 --> 00:12:06,120 Speaker 1: story about smashing the Black Sabbath fan over the head 219 00:12:06,160 --> 00:12:09,120 Speaker 1: with a beer bottle, the stuff about the Sleezball manager 220 00:12:09,120 --> 00:12:11,280 Speaker 1: who taped the pornos and played them for the secretaries 221 00:12:11,280 --> 00:12:14,000 Speaker 1: at Warner Brothers. And I must clarify right now that 222 00:12:13,480 --> 00:12:16,560 Speaker 1: that was not Noel Monk, who was the manager at 223 00:12:16,559 --> 00:12:18,280 Speaker 1: the time, who did that. Okay, it was another guy 224 00:12:18,679 --> 00:12:21,439 Speaker 1: that Monk is writing about. And honestly, there were a 225 00:12:21,480 --> 00:12:23,559 Speaker 1: lot of people on the payroll with very similar titles 226 00:12:23,600 --> 00:12:25,880 Speaker 1: at the time, so it's easy to get confused. There's 227 00:12:25,920 --> 00:12:28,560 Speaker 1: also in the history of van Halen, as I'm sure 228 00:12:28,600 --> 00:12:31,280 Speaker 1: you know, and I know you know, forgive me, don't 229 00:12:31,320 --> 00:12:31,720 Speaker 1: forgive me. 230 00:12:31,960 --> 00:12:32,920 Speaker 2: I just got to address this. 231 00:12:32,960 --> 00:12:38,080 Speaker 1: There's lots lots of childish rockstar antics in Monk's book 232 00:12:38,240 --> 00:12:43,280 Speaker 1: in the past, in van Halen's history, which honestly, you know, 233 00:12:43,760 --> 00:12:45,840 Speaker 1: it's become a bit of a cliche. So we didn't 234 00:12:45,840 --> 00:12:48,360 Speaker 1: want to make this episode all about guacamole fights and 235 00:12:48,440 --> 00:12:53,200 Speaker 1: groupies smeared in ketchup and all that fucking brown eminem bullshit. Okay, 236 00:12:53,679 --> 00:12:55,680 Speaker 1: it's there, if you want it, you can get it elsewhere. 237 00:12:56,160 --> 00:12:58,079 Speaker 1: Our themes for this episode were a little bit different, 238 00:12:58,120 --> 00:13:02,640 Speaker 1: themes of innovation, of protecting those innovations, even if it 239 00:13:02,720 --> 00:13:07,360 Speaker 1: means being ruthless in your defense of your innovation. All 240 00:13:07,440 --> 00:13:10,120 Speaker 1: that comes from a different book, a book called Eruption, 241 00:13:10,520 --> 00:13:13,360 Speaker 1: Conversations with Eddie Van Halen that was written by Brad 242 00:13:13,400 --> 00:13:16,440 Speaker 1: Tlinsky and Chris Gil. Talinsky was the editor in chief 243 00:13:16,440 --> 00:13:19,719 Speaker 1: at Guitar World magazine. Gill was a regular contributor, and 244 00:13:19,800 --> 00:13:22,000 Speaker 1: for years decades even the two of them went up 245 00:13:22,000 --> 00:13:24,040 Speaker 1: to Eddie van Halen's fifty one to fifty studio to 246 00:13:24,040 --> 00:13:26,679 Speaker 1: hang out and talk. And this book Eruption, stems from 247 00:13:26,679 --> 00:13:29,480 Speaker 1: over fifty hours of unreleased interviews that they recorded before 248 00:13:29,559 --> 00:13:31,880 Speaker 1: Eddie's death in twenty twenty. It is a great read. 249 00:13:32,160 --> 00:13:33,839 Speaker 1: If you're a fan of Van Halen and a fan 250 00:13:33,880 --> 00:13:36,000 Speaker 1: of Eddie's playing, if you're into the guitar, you want 251 00:13:36,040 --> 00:13:37,440 Speaker 1: to get inside the head of one of the greatest 252 00:13:37,440 --> 00:13:39,800 Speaker 1: guitarists to ever do it that I highly recommend. This 253 00:13:40,160 --> 00:13:42,840 Speaker 1: also sheds light on why, and this is the key thing, 254 00:13:43,080 --> 00:13:45,600 Speaker 1: why Eddie van Halen innovated the way that he did, 255 00:13:45,880 --> 00:13:47,840 Speaker 1: not only because he didn't have any money and he 256 00:13:47,920 --> 00:13:50,000 Speaker 1: literally had to build the guitar, he had to build 257 00:13:50,000 --> 00:13:52,240 Speaker 1: a thing that he wanted from cheap scraps, but because 258 00:13:52,400 --> 00:13:55,240 Speaker 1: he was bullied as a kid. Okay, That's something I'm 259 00:13:55,240 --> 00:13:57,800 Speaker 1: sure we can all of a certain age relate to. 260 00:13:58,000 --> 00:14:00,560 Speaker 1: When we weren't so protected as chill, and we went 261 00:14:00,600 --> 00:14:02,680 Speaker 1: out into the neighborhood no matter where we were front, 262 00:14:02,840 --> 00:14:06,079 Speaker 1: we ventured beyond those neighborhood boundaries. We got our asses kicked. 263 00:14:06,240 --> 00:14:08,760 Speaker 1: Some of us even got our asses kicked in the neighborhood. 264 00:14:08,840 --> 00:14:10,680 Speaker 1: Some of us were from other places with hard to 265 00:14:10,679 --> 00:14:12,880 Speaker 1: pronounce names, and had hard to pronounce names like Eddie 266 00:14:12,960 --> 00:14:15,120 Speaker 1: van Halen, and they were bullied no matter where the 267 00:14:15,120 --> 00:14:17,880 Speaker 1: fuck they went. A kid moving from Halland to America, 268 00:14:17,880 --> 00:14:20,520 Speaker 1: he was bullied and humiliated in the outside world, and 269 00:14:20,520 --> 00:14:24,040 Speaker 1: that drove him inside into his bedroom where he channeled 270 00:14:24,080 --> 00:14:27,400 Speaker 1: all of his frustration and complicated feelings into his guitar, playing, 271 00:14:27,440 --> 00:14:31,440 Speaker 1: into building his guitar, and his guitar sound fascinating stuff, 272 00:14:31,560 --> 00:14:34,680 Speaker 1: and it comes from this book eruption conversations with eddievan Halen. 273 00:14:34,720 --> 00:14:36,680 Speaker 1: You're going to want to check that out. I related 274 00:14:36,720 --> 00:14:40,360 Speaker 1: to this. I know Zeth who wrote this episode related 275 00:14:40,400 --> 00:14:42,920 Speaker 1: to this. This is something I think we can You 276 00:14:42,920 --> 00:14:44,760 Speaker 1: know I was driven inside my room all the time 277 00:14:44,800 --> 00:14:46,840 Speaker 1: for different reasons, basically because I was a little fuck 278 00:14:46,920 --> 00:14:48,560 Speaker 1: up and my mom was grounding me all the time, 279 00:14:48,600 --> 00:14:51,680 Speaker 1: but it drove me straight into books, straight into guitar, 280 00:14:52,000 --> 00:14:54,960 Speaker 1: straight into music, straight into writing, straight in to figure 281 00:14:55,000 --> 00:14:56,880 Speaker 1: out and making who I am today. So this was 282 00:14:57,080 --> 00:14:59,760 Speaker 1: very very relatable to me. Not that I'm comparing myself 283 00:14:59,760 --> 00:15:03,000 Speaker 1: to van Halen. I am, however, comparing myself somewhat to 284 00:15:03,120 --> 00:15:05,800 Speaker 1: his experiences. I'm sure you guys can as well. I 285 00:15:05,880 --> 00:15:08,120 Speaker 1: want to know your thoughts on van Halen. Is Eddie 286 00:15:08,160 --> 00:15:10,280 Speaker 1: van Halen the greatest guitar player of all time? Like 287 00:15:10,320 --> 00:15:13,520 Speaker 1: I asked before, is Pretty Woman the greatest example of 288 00:15:13,600 --> 00:15:17,360 Speaker 1: a cover being better exceeding blowing the original. 289 00:15:16,880 --> 00:15:17,720 Speaker 2: Out of the water? 290 00:15:18,120 --> 00:15:21,280 Speaker 1: And is van Halen the greatest band to recover from 291 00:15:21,320 --> 00:15:24,240 Speaker 1: the departure of their lead singer? I don't think so, 292 00:15:24,320 --> 00:15:26,240 Speaker 1: but I had to ask six one seven nine oh 293 00:15:26,360 --> 00:15:29,840 Speaker 1: six six six three eight voicemail and text to let 294 00:15:29,840 --> 00:15:34,240 Speaker 1: me know, just like the nine ozher four with this voicemail. 295 00:15:34,520 --> 00:15:38,280 Speaker 3: Good morning, Marcello just goes and Jake Man, the van 296 00:15:38,360 --> 00:15:41,720 Speaker 3: Halen episode is this and you broke it right at 297 00:15:41,760 --> 00:15:44,440 Speaker 3: the right spot too much the text that I'm driving, 298 00:15:44,640 --> 00:15:47,520 Speaker 3: but the U you brought up the end and. 299 00:15:47,640 --> 00:15:49,120 Speaker 4: MS, which is hilarious. 300 00:15:49,720 --> 00:15:53,680 Speaker 3: Uh, that was on their tour Rider, and they wanted. 301 00:15:53,440 --> 00:15:56,680 Speaker 4: To make sure that they actually read the tour Rider, so. 302 00:15:56,600 --> 00:15:59,880 Speaker 3: They put in a ridiculous shit like a bowl full 303 00:15:59,880 --> 00:16:02,040 Speaker 3: of m and ms with all the brown ones removed. 304 00:16:03,160 --> 00:16:04,520 Speaker 2: But yeah, man, you broke get. 305 00:16:04,400 --> 00:16:05,720 Speaker 4: In the right place, you know. 306 00:16:05,800 --> 00:16:08,240 Speaker 3: Oh who's fo already? Is that that Fammies? 307 00:16:08,600 --> 00:16:11,840 Speaker 4: Ah and the page turn Van Hayguard is born? 308 00:16:12,640 --> 00:16:16,040 Speaker 3: Good stuff. Man, can't wait for the part two. Can't 309 00:16:16,080 --> 00:16:18,280 Speaker 3: wait for Lane Stay and Outs. 310 00:16:18,040 --> 00:16:23,040 Speaker 1: And Chames keep it going, keep rolling later you got 311 00:16:23,040 --> 00:16:24,560 Speaker 1: it nine oh four. We can't wait for the part 312 00:16:24,600 --> 00:16:26,920 Speaker 1: two either. That episode just it just teed up the 313 00:16:26,920 --> 00:16:29,240 Speaker 1: part two. We weren't even trying to do that, Frankly, 314 00:16:29,320 --> 00:16:31,920 Speaker 1: it just did it. Glad you picked up on that. 315 00:16:31,960 --> 00:16:34,560 Speaker 1: Appreciate the call. Drive safe out there? All right, all, 316 00:16:34,720 --> 00:16:37,240 Speaker 1: let's check out this voicemail from the seven to seventy three. 317 00:16:37,720 --> 00:16:40,080 Speaker 4: Hey, what's up man? I love the show. I just 318 00:16:40,080 --> 00:16:42,320 Speaker 4: wanted to put in a word for a show about 319 00:16:42,520 --> 00:16:47,280 Speaker 4: hr from Bad Brains arrested constantly. I had tickets to 320 00:16:47,320 --> 00:16:49,520 Speaker 4: see him twice and missed both shows because he was 321 00:16:49,560 --> 00:16:56,520 Speaker 4: in jail. Recorded Sacred Love from Jail, Alleged rapists, homophobic 322 00:16:57,080 --> 00:17:02,440 Speaker 4: aggravated assault, you name it, schizophrenic. I think I think 323 00:17:02,440 --> 00:17:04,800 Speaker 4: it would make a great show. Keep doing what you do, 324 00:17:05,040 --> 00:17:07,800 Speaker 4: keep on rolling. Love it so much and thanks man. 325 00:17:08,000 --> 00:17:10,240 Speaker 1: Seven seven three, Thanks for the show, thanks for the 326 00:17:10,280 --> 00:17:12,720 Speaker 1: excuse me, thanks thanks for the voicemail, and thanks for 327 00:17:12,760 --> 00:17:15,520 Speaker 1: the episode recommendation. You know, Bad Brains is one of 328 00:17:15,520 --> 00:17:20,560 Speaker 1: my favorite bands ever and like top five of all time. 329 00:17:21,359 --> 00:17:23,920 Speaker 1: And I know very little about their history. I've read 330 00:17:24,040 --> 00:17:27,400 Speaker 1: next to nothing. I've never seen them live. I mean 331 00:17:27,840 --> 00:17:30,720 Speaker 1: that's not true. I did see them live like ten 332 00:17:31,280 --> 00:17:33,959 Speaker 1: twelve years ago something like that, but it wasn't you know. 333 00:17:34,040 --> 00:17:35,520 Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying. I've never seen them live, 334 00:17:37,560 --> 00:17:40,000 Speaker 1: and I don't know a lot about them. Of course, 335 00:17:40,000 --> 00:17:42,600 Speaker 1: I knew about the homophobia, Don't Blow No Bubbles, that 336 00:17:42,680 --> 00:17:47,000 Speaker 1: song from with the Quickness from Quickness, excuse me, rapist, 337 00:17:47,200 --> 00:17:49,280 Speaker 1: never heard that before. I need to look into that 338 00:17:49,359 --> 00:17:52,520 Speaker 1: see if that's true. I think I knew that Sacred 339 00:17:52,560 --> 00:17:58,840 Speaker 1: Love was recorded from jail and the schizophrenic thing. Schizophrenia 340 00:17:58,960 --> 00:18:01,679 Speaker 1: is new to me. This is all shaping up in 341 00:18:01,720 --> 00:18:04,120 Speaker 1: my head to be an episode I want to write, 342 00:18:04,119 --> 00:18:07,080 Speaker 1: and I want to write soon, and ZETHLNDI please make 343 00:18:07,119 --> 00:18:10,240 Speaker 1: a note of that sounds like something we could get 344 00:18:10,240 --> 00:18:13,160 Speaker 1: into in a really interesting way. So thank you seven 345 00:18:13,240 --> 00:18:17,040 Speaker 1: seven three. I appreciate that. Plus four to six over 346 00:18:17,160 --> 00:18:20,280 Speaker 1: in Europe, writes to us Steve McQueen, Hey, listening here 347 00:18:20,320 --> 00:18:22,560 Speaker 1: from Sweden. Maybe it's just because I'm European, but I 348 00:18:22,600 --> 00:18:25,240 Speaker 1: always felt Steve McQueen was influenced by French actors much 349 00:18:25,240 --> 00:18:30,040 Speaker 1: more than his native contemporaries, folks like Eas Montagne, Elaine Delon. 350 00:18:30,160 --> 00:18:31,840 Speaker 1: There's some others here. I'm not gonna mention them because 351 00:18:31,840 --> 00:18:33,840 Speaker 1: I'm going to fuck up their pronunciation of their names, 352 00:18:33,880 --> 00:18:36,240 Speaker 1: and I'm gonna sound like an idiot. But the texterter 353 00:18:36,280 --> 00:18:38,560 Speaker 1: goes on to say, beautiful, tough guys who sometimes speak 354 00:18:38,640 --> 00:18:42,320 Speaker 1: louder in silence than words. Love the pod, stay cool. 355 00:18:42,800 --> 00:18:45,920 Speaker 1: Is Elaine Delon? Is that the guy in French connection? 356 00:18:46,040 --> 00:18:50,200 Speaker 1: I think it is. I could be wrong. Text back 357 00:18:50,280 --> 00:18:51,879 Speaker 1: and let me know, and you know, give me a 358 00:18:51,880 --> 00:18:55,840 Speaker 1: couple movies here plus four six over in Sweden if 359 00:18:55,840 --> 00:18:59,360 Speaker 1: you don't mind, text me a couple movies from these 360 00:18:59,359 --> 00:19:01,840 Speaker 1: actors you met that are good starting points. Don't give 361 00:19:01,880 --> 00:19:04,200 Speaker 1: me a bunch if just you know, just like one each, 362 00:19:04,359 --> 00:19:07,040 Speaker 1: like if I want to watch an Elaine de lam movie. 363 00:19:07,200 --> 00:19:07,879 Speaker 2: Which one is it? 364 00:19:08,400 --> 00:19:11,600 Speaker 1: Maurice Rene movie? Which one is it? Give me some 365 00:19:11,640 --> 00:19:14,920 Speaker 1: res I would appreciate that. Uh, Sarah text her is 366 00:19:14,960 --> 00:19:17,320 Speaker 1: Sarah here, she says, love the pod, Stay cool, Sarah, 367 00:19:17,359 --> 00:19:19,760 Speaker 1: You got it, Sarah, I'll do my best. The nine 368 00:19:19,800 --> 00:19:22,680 Speaker 1: one seven rights and the ads on your podcast make 369 00:19:22,760 --> 00:19:25,439 Speaker 1: me want to shoot myself. Well nine one seven. I 370 00:19:25,480 --> 00:19:28,000 Speaker 1: gotta tell you, man, you know, first of all, don't 371 00:19:28,000 --> 00:19:31,000 Speaker 1: shoot yourself. Do not do that. That's not gonna be 372 00:19:31,000 --> 00:19:32,240 Speaker 1: good for anyone, especially you. 373 00:19:32,800 --> 00:19:33,080 Speaker 2: Uh. 374 00:19:33,640 --> 00:19:35,640 Speaker 1: Second, there's a solution. 375 00:19:35,640 --> 00:19:37,280 Speaker 2: And it's you. Just It's just. 376 00:19:37,400 --> 00:19:39,760 Speaker 1: It's a cheap solution. It's an easy one. 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All right, we are back. 384 00:20:13,480 --> 00:20:15,320 Speaker 1: And as I mentioned at the top of the show, 385 00:20:15,359 --> 00:20:17,680 Speaker 1: in addition to our new episode on Van Hallen this week, 386 00:20:17,680 --> 00:20:20,000 Speaker 1: we also have a brand new episode on Lane Stay 387 00:20:20,040 --> 00:20:22,080 Speaker 1: of Alice in Chains and it's out right now and 388 00:20:22,080 --> 00:20:23,560 Speaker 1: you can go listen to it right now. But to 389 00:20:23,600 --> 00:20:26,920 Speaker 1: do so, you gotta become a member of Disgraceland All Access. 390 00:20:26,920 --> 00:20:29,040 Speaker 1: And the good news is that that is super easy 391 00:20:29,240 --> 00:20:31,720 Speaker 1: to do, super easy to become a member. Just go 392 00:20:31,760 --> 00:20:34,760 Speaker 1: to disgracelandpod dot com slash membership and sign up with 393 00:20:34,800 --> 00:20:36,840 Speaker 1: the click of a button. 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Man in the 401 00:20:58,480 --> 00:21:01,359 Speaker 1: Box also help get Alice in Chains on the Clash 402 00:21:01,400 --> 00:21:04,480 Speaker 1: of the Titans tour during that same year, openly for 403 00:21:04,600 --> 00:21:06,560 Speaker 1: Megadeth slayer Anthrax. 404 00:21:07,600 --> 00:21:09,480 Speaker 2: But just because Alice and Chains. 405 00:21:09,160 --> 00:21:13,080 Speaker 1: Who were Seattle heavy, they were not Anthrax heavy. They 406 00:21:13,080 --> 00:21:17,040 Speaker 1: weren't even Megadeth heavy. Dave Mustain Megadeth reminded them of 407 00:21:17,040 --> 00:21:19,359 Speaker 1: this factor. The posters he had printed up and tasted 408 00:21:19,480 --> 00:21:22,520 Speaker 1: all over the massive arenas that they played in posters 409 00:21:22,520 --> 00:21:26,920 Speaker 1: of Alice in Chains for years back, hair teaste, spandex tight, 410 00:21:27,280 --> 00:21:30,360 Speaker 1: still spelling their name Alice n Chains. 411 00:21:30,720 --> 00:21:32,680 Speaker 2: That's aptostrophe capital. 412 00:21:32,440 --> 00:21:36,679 Speaker 1: En getting trolled by fucking Dave Mustange of all people, 413 00:21:37,000 --> 00:21:39,520 Speaker 1: that must have stopped, But not as bad as the 414 00:21:39,560 --> 00:21:42,840 Speaker 1: physical violence Alice in Chains endured up on that stage, 415 00:21:43,200 --> 00:21:44,760 Speaker 1: paized by Slayer fans. 416 00:21:45,040 --> 00:21:47,760 Speaker 2: Fans that did not get a shit for Alice in 417 00:21:47,880 --> 00:21:49,040 Speaker 2: Chains and or. 418 00:21:49,080 --> 00:21:52,720 Speaker 1: Known in They helped them with all manners of subterfuge 419 00:21:53,080 --> 00:21:57,120 Speaker 1: spin on them through the mercilessly Wayne Staley, for one, 420 00:21:57,280 --> 00:21:59,760 Speaker 1: wasn't just gonna stand there and take it. He started 421 00:22:00,160 --> 00:22:02,000 Speaker 1: and all that shit back at the crowd. He didn't, 422 00:22:02,040 --> 00:22:04,080 Speaker 1: jumped the barricade and got right in their faces and 423 00:22:04,160 --> 00:22:09,120 Speaker 1: spat back at the lane. Staley fought back, fought off 424 00:22:09,160 --> 00:22:12,000 Speaker 1: the hordes, did well in the process, stood up for 425 00:22:12,119 --> 00:22:15,639 Speaker 1: himself and had the last laugh, or so he thought. 426 00:22:17,040 --> 00:22:19,359 Speaker 1: After the show, he and the others were greeted by 427 00:22:19,359 --> 00:22:22,199 Speaker 1: a group of Slayer fans waiting outside their tour bus. 428 00:22:22,560 --> 00:22:26,200 Speaker 1: Slayer fanatics that is, and fanatics being the operative word. 429 00:22:26,280 --> 00:22:30,639 Speaker 1: These dudes were hard. Lane braced himself did oh for 430 00:22:30,760 --> 00:22:33,919 Speaker 1: Jerry and the others. No longer protected by the stage, 431 00:22:34,080 --> 00:22:36,719 Speaker 1: they were about to endure an extreme ass kicking by 432 00:22:36,760 --> 00:22:39,480 Speaker 1: a bunch of pissed off metal heads. Lane and the 433 00:22:39,520 --> 00:22:42,439 Speaker 1: boys got closer and the Slayer kids were blocking the 434 00:22:42,560 --> 00:22:43,560 Speaker 1: entrance to their bus. 435 00:22:44,280 --> 00:22:45,560 Speaker 2: Lane's pulse quickened. 436 00:22:45,800 --> 00:22:48,000 Speaker 1: He looked around for some kind of blunt instrument that 437 00:22:48,040 --> 00:22:49,760 Speaker 1: he could use if shit went the way he thought 438 00:22:49,800 --> 00:22:52,840 Speaker 1: it was going to. And then one of the Slayer 439 00:22:52,920 --> 00:22:56,600 Speaker 1: fans gave the Alice and Chains guys ahead nod. Hey, 440 00:22:56,920 --> 00:22:59,560 Speaker 1: the kid said, you guys are all right. You didn't 441 00:22:59,560 --> 00:23:04,600 Speaker 1: puss out back there. The hardcore Slayer dudes parted and 442 00:23:04,800 --> 00:23:07,440 Speaker 1: let Alice in Chains get onto their bus, and then 443 00:23:07,480 --> 00:23:09,040 Speaker 1: it was off to the next stop to do it 444 00:23:09,080 --> 00:23:13,520 Speaker 1: all over again, to be humiliated, attacked, and ultimately forgiven 445 00:23:14,040 --> 00:23:16,679 Speaker 1: a roller coaster of emotions that took its toll on 446 00:23:16,760 --> 00:23:19,879 Speaker 1: Maine Staley despite the brave face he put on night 447 00:23:19,920 --> 00:23:23,240 Speaker 1: after night, and soon he would need more than just 448 00:23:23,280 --> 00:23:25,280 Speaker 1: a brave face and a big voice to keep it 449 00:23:25,320 --> 00:23:29,040 Speaker 1: all at bay, a different kind of coping mechanism. 450 00:23:29,720 --> 00:23:34,440 Speaker 2: Heroin all Right. That was a clip from our brand 451 00:23:34,440 --> 00:23:36,520 Speaker 2: new episode on Lane Staley of Alison. 452 00:23:36,240 --> 00:23:38,119 Speaker 1: Chains, which you can hear right now by going to 453 00:23:38,160 --> 00:23:40,879 Speaker 1: disgrace lampod dot com slash membership is signing up for 454 00:23:40,920 --> 00:23:44,399 Speaker 1: disgrace Land All Access. There's another exclusive episode available for 455 00:23:44,560 --> 00:23:47,399 Speaker 1: you there as well on Hunter S. Thompson. And every 456 00:23:47,440 --> 00:23:50,840 Speaker 1: month we're gonna be dropping a new, fully scripted exclusive 457 00:23:50,840 --> 00:23:54,880 Speaker 1: episode for Remembers Baskach coming up after Lane Staley, Chris Cornell, 458 00:23:55,200 --> 00:23:58,280 Speaker 1: a Soundgarden and audio Slave of course, Waylon Jennings, and 459 00:23:58,320 --> 00:24:00,439 Speaker 1: so many more. 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Next week in the Disgraceland Feed, a 493 00:25:45,080 --> 00:25:48,640 Speaker 1: classic episode for you on Monday, not Tuesday, number six. 494 00:25:48,720 --> 00:25:50,800 Speaker 1: My number is six one seven, nine oh six, six 495 00:25:50,920 --> 00:25:53,520 Speaker 1: sixty three eight. Call me on the telephone or text 496 00:25:53,520 --> 00:25:55,800 Speaker 1: me number seven. Remember no one cares about the music 497 00:25:55,800 --> 00:25:57,479 Speaker 1: that you love more than you do, and well that 498 00:25:57,640 --> 00:26:00,400 Speaker 1: is a disgrace. And now my moment of bliss in 499 00:26:00,440 --> 00:26:03,600 Speaker 1: honor of this week's episode on Van Halen, me reading 500 00:26:03,640 --> 00:26:07,360 Speaker 1: you the Pasadena, California phone book from nineteen twenty six, 501 00:26:07,440 --> 00:26:10,480 Speaker 1: some thirty something years before Eddie, Alex and their parents 502 00:26:10,520 --> 00:26:11,960 Speaker 1: relocated there from. 503 00:26:11,840 --> 00:26:13,120 Speaker 2: Their native Holland. 504 00:26:14,440 --> 00:26:19,280 Speaker 1: Keene F three oh nine West walnut Terrace eight four 505 00:26:19,400 --> 00:26:25,359 Speaker 1: seven four Dash w keenan Ec, Colorado Dash one six 506 00:26:25,720 --> 00:26:31,920 Speaker 1: five five, Keene Alice, Colorado, Dash one nine seven five, 507 00:26:32,960 --> 00:26:38,520 Speaker 1: Kenny F twelve twenty six, Stevenson, Niagara Dash one six 508 00:26:38,800 --> 00:26:44,879 Speaker 1: four six keepers, Kenneth Sterling Dash eight zero sixty three, 509 00:26:44,960 --> 00:26:50,320 Speaker 1: Keith Age three seven nine East Colorado terrace. 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