1 00:00:00,440 --> 00:00:05,440 Speaker 1: Wake that ass up in the morning. Breakfast Club Morning. 2 00:00:05,440 --> 00:00:09,239 Speaker 2: Everybody is d J n V, jess Larius Chelamaine the God. 3 00:00:09,240 --> 00:00:11,280 Speaker 2: We are the Breakfast Club. We got a special guest. 4 00:00:11,080 --> 00:00:11,639 Speaker 1: In the building. 5 00:00:11,680 --> 00:00:14,760 Speaker 2: That's right, we have j O Brian Welcome. How are 6 00:00:14,760 --> 00:00:15,920 Speaker 2: you feeling. 7 00:00:16,400 --> 00:00:17,279 Speaker 3: I'm feeling so good. 8 00:00:17,320 --> 00:00:18,840 Speaker 2: I was gonna name all the stuff that the Real 9 00:00:18,880 --> 00:00:22,880 Speaker 2: Housewives of Potomac. I was gonna say, shady podcast podcast, 10 00:00:23,000 --> 00:00:27,480 Speaker 2: Straight and Reasonably Shady podcast, Rob and you show love Hotel. 11 00:00:27,520 --> 00:00:29,200 Speaker 2: You're doing so much. I'm doing a lot, making a 12 00:00:29,240 --> 00:00:30,040 Speaker 2: lot of money out there. 13 00:00:32,280 --> 00:00:33,839 Speaker 4: Yes, well, you know we got the dad for the 14 00:00:33,840 --> 00:00:44,480 Speaker 4: college tuition. Thank praise Sam, keep preaching, preacher. But Jesus, yes, yes, yes, 15 00:00:44,640 --> 00:00:46,360 Speaker 4: but yeah, I'm doing a lot, and I'm you know, 16 00:00:46,600 --> 00:00:49,080 Speaker 4: it's good. I'm at a place where I can say 17 00:00:49,120 --> 00:00:51,760 Speaker 4: no to things. I'm doing things that like make me happy. 18 00:00:52,440 --> 00:00:52,640 Speaker 3: Yes. 19 00:00:52,800 --> 00:00:54,680 Speaker 2: How was the Real Housewives franchise? 20 00:00:54,760 --> 00:00:54,840 Speaker 4: Right? 21 00:00:54,840 --> 00:00:59,800 Speaker 2: Because you see Housewives being fired, franchises being canceled, rebooted. 22 00:00:59,880 --> 00:01:03,560 Speaker 2: New York was canceled and rebooted. I think Dubai has 23 00:01:03,600 --> 00:01:06,560 Speaker 2: been canceled. Yes, and a lot of them is they're 24 00:01:06,560 --> 00:01:09,360 Speaker 2: saying it trash. So how is Potonmac. It's still being 25 00:01:09,360 --> 00:01:11,080 Speaker 2: able to survive for all of this stuff. 26 00:01:11,080 --> 00:01:14,880 Speaker 3: That's first, it's potomac. 27 00:01:14,920 --> 00:01:15,320 Speaker 2: I'm sorry. 28 00:01:15,400 --> 00:01:20,720 Speaker 4: Yes, it's hard, Like the reality TV space is extremely difficult, 29 00:01:20,760 --> 00:01:24,440 Speaker 4: and it's it's difficult to like have some longevity. You 30 00:01:24,600 --> 00:01:27,840 Speaker 4: have to for Housewives, it's not hard. You guys have 31 00:01:27,920 --> 00:01:31,160 Speaker 4: to be friends. It's a show about friendship. So when 32 00:01:31,280 --> 00:01:33,520 Speaker 4: you are trying to be toxic, when you're trying to 33 00:01:33,520 --> 00:01:36,000 Speaker 4: say stuff to your castmates that's toxic and it's at 34 00:01:36,040 --> 00:01:38,240 Speaker 4: the point of no return, then there goes the show. 35 00:01:38,600 --> 00:01:41,840 Speaker 4: You can't come back from that. And no viewer wants 36 00:01:41,880 --> 00:01:43,679 Speaker 4: to sit in week after week and look at a 37 00:01:43,720 --> 00:01:46,720 Speaker 4: show that there's a bunch of women that hate each other. 38 00:01:47,080 --> 00:01:48,160 Speaker 3: It becomes unreal. 39 00:01:48,640 --> 00:01:50,440 Speaker 1: Hold on, that's the whole point of reality. 40 00:01:50,600 --> 00:01:57,120 Speaker 2: But I thought the conflict in the toxic was what God. 41 00:01:56,600 --> 00:01:58,920 Speaker 3: But it's it's a fine line. It's like a dance 42 00:01:58,920 --> 00:01:59,400 Speaker 3: you gotta do. 43 00:01:59,480 --> 00:02:04,640 Speaker 4: So it's wake toxicity, it's not hardcore toxicity. And then 44 00:02:04,640 --> 00:02:06,960 Speaker 4: you got to have be able to come back and laugh. 45 00:02:07,480 --> 00:02:08,959 Speaker 4: You got to be able to come back and make 46 00:02:08,960 --> 00:02:12,400 Speaker 4: fun of each other. And it's a girlfriend thing. You know, 47 00:02:12,440 --> 00:02:15,640 Speaker 4: you have some toxic girlfriends, right, but you know that 48 00:02:15,720 --> 00:02:17,600 Speaker 4: y'all can go out on Saturday and. 49 00:02:17,520 --> 00:02:19,880 Speaker 3: Have fun, but somebody's getting cussed out. 50 00:02:20,000 --> 00:02:22,200 Speaker 4: Yeah, but it's okay because there's a love there and 51 00:02:22,240 --> 00:02:25,080 Speaker 4: you can still like rise above it. Yeah, and then 52 00:02:25,160 --> 00:02:27,520 Speaker 4: Sunday we can all talk about what happened, yes, and 53 00:02:27,560 --> 00:02:29,480 Speaker 4: that be it. Yeah, and then you know you have 54 00:02:30,200 --> 00:02:32,639 Speaker 4: it's a dynamic of like there's some girlfriends that are 55 00:02:32,720 --> 00:02:36,440 Speaker 4: just like the wild card, the drunk one, the one 56 00:02:36,480 --> 00:02:39,919 Speaker 4: that's always going to like be reserved. It's the dynamic 57 00:02:40,000 --> 00:02:41,920 Speaker 4: of the group. But it just can't get to a 58 00:02:41,919 --> 00:02:44,440 Speaker 4: toxic place otherwise you're yes, you're going to be cancered. 59 00:02:44,480 --> 00:02:47,440 Speaker 4: Has it ever been a part or a time where 60 00:02:47,440 --> 00:02:49,000 Speaker 4: you're like, I don't want to do this to be 61 00:02:49,040 --> 00:02:51,359 Speaker 4: able TV? Shit, more like Thursday, I'm about to throw 62 00:02:51,360 --> 00:02:52,760 Speaker 4: in a town, Jez. 63 00:02:53,080 --> 00:02:54,240 Speaker 3: You're about to give me five? 64 00:02:54,400 --> 00:03:01,200 Speaker 4: Yes, of course, I always say, because real TV is tough. 65 00:03:02,639 --> 00:03:04,959 Speaker 4: If there is a point in a season in which 66 00:03:04,960 --> 00:03:07,000 Speaker 4: you don't feel like you want to quit, then you're 67 00:03:07,000 --> 00:03:07,720 Speaker 4: not doing your job. 68 00:03:08,680 --> 00:03:10,359 Speaker 3: You have to get to that point. 69 00:03:10,600 --> 00:03:14,079 Speaker 4: And for instance, this season, I didn't feel it unto 70 00:03:14,160 --> 00:03:16,560 Speaker 4: the end, so and I was checking myself with it 71 00:03:16,600 --> 00:03:19,120 Speaker 4: because I was like, I've been kind of like feeling good. 72 00:03:19,600 --> 00:03:21,760 Speaker 3: I've been in a great place. I don't feel like 73 00:03:21,760 --> 00:03:22,400 Speaker 3: I want to quit. 74 00:03:23,080 --> 00:03:26,400 Speaker 4: And and then towards the end of season, I was like, yeah, there, gone, there, 75 00:03:26,480 --> 00:03:30,040 Speaker 4: go there, But you have to give it all. If 76 00:03:30,080 --> 00:03:31,679 Speaker 4: you don't, then you shouldn't be doing it. And is 77 00:03:31,720 --> 00:03:33,960 Speaker 4: that that's so that's recipe to a good season. 78 00:03:34,560 --> 00:03:37,160 Speaker 3: Get that feeling. Oh, I was like this, this season 79 00:03:37,200 --> 00:03:38,720 Speaker 3: is gonna be fire, and it is. 80 00:03:40,320 --> 00:03:41,800 Speaker 2: To you're the villain a lot and a lot of 81 00:03:41,840 --> 00:03:44,880 Speaker 2: these like, well, go at people's personal lives. You'll go 82 00:03:44,880 --> 00:03:49,360 Speaker 2: at d you have a relationship, personal env you know. 83 00:03:49,440 --> 00:03:51,480 Speaker 3: So we're friends and V I'm just asking. 84 00:03:51,560 --> 00:03:52,200 Speaker 2: I'm just asking. 85 00:03:52,680 --> 00:03:54,200 Speaker 1: I wanted to show my wife and I'm like, that's 86 00:03:54,200 --> 00:03:54,880 Speaker 1: not that youselle. 87 00:03:54,920 --> 00:03:55,360 Speaker 2: I know. 88 00:03:59,720 --> 00:04:03,880 Speaker 4: I think that anything that is out there on social 89 00:04:03,920 --> 00:04:07,040 Speaker 4: media is fair. It's semi fair game. I'll never go 90 00:04:07,200 --> 00:04:11,080 Speaker 4: after anybody's mother or child, but yeah, if it's out there, 91 00:04:11,240 --> 00:04:13,600 Speaker 4: let's talk about it. And and that's like a good 92 00:04:13,760 --> 00:04:17,200 Speaker 4: girlfriend relationship any right, take the cameras away. If something's 93 00:04:17,240 --> 00:04:19,240 Speaker 4: going on with my girlfriend, were gonna talk about it. 94 00:04:19,279 --> 00:04:21,080 Speaker 4: I'm not gonna get together with her and act like 95 00:04:21,080 --> 00:04:23,839 Speaker 4: it ain't happening. No, let's talk, and it does. And 96 00:04:23,920 --> 00:04:27,320 Speaker 4: just because the cameras are there doesn't mean it's shady. 97 00:04:27,440 --> 00:04:30,640 Speaker 4: It's how you handle the answer that that you feel 98 00:04:30,680 --> 00:04:31,920 Speaker 4: like it is shady. 99 00:04:32,040 --> 00:04:33,480 Speaker 5: I don't think you a villain. I think I think 100 00:04:33,520 --> 00:04:36,640 Speaker 5: you throw reasonable shade. Yes, he's the podcast. 101 00:04:36,720 --> 00:04:39,800 Speaker 4: Yes, you know, Rob is not with us this season, 102 00:04:40,120 --> 00:04:43,640 Speaker 4: and so the reasonable of the show has been like 103 00:04:44,000 --> 00:04:44,599 Speaker 4: you know, gone. 104 00:04:45,320 --> 00:04:46,280 Speaker 3: But I've had to. 105 00:04:46,200 --> 00:04:49,640 Speaker 4: Pick up that reasonable part A little bit about it 106 00:04:49,680 --> 00:04:53,200 Speaker 4: is that it's difficult part of my personality. 107 00:04:53,880 --> 00:04:56,119 Speaker 5: The thing I like about you though, because it's hard 108 00:04:56,200 --> 00:04:59,360 Speaker 5: to build the name outside of the reality show. A 109 00:04:59,400 --> 00:05:01,400 Speaker 5: lot of people that becomes their whole identity that have 110 00:05:01,560 --> 00:05:02,880 Speaker 5: not been the case for you. 111 00:05:02,960 --> 00:05:08,039 Speaker 4: No, because I leave it there so and that is 112 00:05:08,080 --> 00:05:10,239 Speaker 4: when we're filming. I leave it there when I come home. 113 00:05:10,640 --> 00:05:12,240 Speaker 4: I'm not trying to talk to my kids about it. 114 00:05:12,440 --> 00:05:15,840 Speaker 4: I'm not trying to think about it. It's I look 115 00:05:15,880 --> 00:05:18,480 Speaker 4: at it is, it's on camera stuff. I did it 116 00:05:18,520 --> 00:05:20,680 Speaker 4: on camera. Now that the cameras are gone, I'm done 117 00:05:20,680 --> 00:05:22,800 Speaker 4: with it. Now there's your your kids ever try to 118 00:05:22,800 --> 00:05:24,920 Speaker 4: talk to you about it. You got an older baby girl. Yeah, 119 00:05:25,360 --> 00:05:27,719 Speaker 4: that she questioned you about some things that she'll see 120 00:05:27,760 --> 00:05:31,960 Speaker 4: on there or does that ever happen? Well, they probably 121 00:05:31,960 --> 00:05:33,640 Speaker 4: won't mention it. And one of them is here today. 122 00:05:34,040 --> 00:05:35,159 Speaker 4: But they're shadier than me. 123 00:05:35,839 --> 00:05:36,560 Speaker 1: So if. 124 00:05:39,800 --> 00:05:41,839 Speaker 4: You know, their mama is me, their father is who 125 00:05:41,839 --> 00:05:44,240 Speaker 4: he is, they are some shady kids. So if I 126 00:05:44,279 --> 00:05:46,599 Speaker 4: come home and tell them what's going on, they you know, 127 00:05:46,600 --> 00:05:47,080 Speaker 4: they get. 128 00:05:46,920 --> 00:05:47,479 Speaker 3: A kick out of it. 129 00:05:47,560 --> 00:05:51,280 Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, so they there are times when they're like, ma, 130 00:05:51,839 --> 00:05:54,839 Speaker 4: you can't say that, But then there are times where 131 00:05:54,839 --> 00:05:56,800 Speaker 4: they're like, good, I'm glad you checked her. 132 00:05:56,920 --> 00:05:57,480 Speaker 1: Yeah. Yeah. 133 00:05:57,560 --> 00:05:59,040 Speaker 2: And how do you deal with the blogs right, because 134 00:05:59,040 --> 00:06:01,279 Speaker 2: they attack everything that you do? Yes, the way you 135 00:06:01,320 --> 00:06:04,800 Speaker 2: decorate your house, the way you dress good, She guccied out. 136 00:06:04,800 --> 00:06:05,920 Speaker 2: I don't see the problem like I. 137 00:06:05,880 --> 00:06:08,760 Speaker 1: See her all the time talk about promote me. 138 00:06:09,160 --> 00:06:11,279 Speaker 2: When people take thrives that you can talk about you 139 00:06:11,320 --> 00:06:13,440 Speaker 2: when you know it's bys right. 140 00:06:13,640 --> 00:06:17,040 Speaker 4: I find it funny because that means if you're talking 141 00:06:17,080 --> 00:06:18,520 Speaker 4: about the way that I dressed on my house whatever, 142 00:06:18,520 --> 00:06:20,920 Speaker 4: that means you have nothing else right and you're just 143 00:06:21,000 --> 00:06:22,920 Speaker 4: not now making up something. 144 00:06:22,920 --> 00:06:24,200 Speaker 3: And yeah, y'all keep talking about me. 145 00:06:24,240 --> 00:06:25,760 Speaker 4: So it's like I don't even have to get out 146 00:06:25,760 --> 00:06:28,120 Speaker 4: of bed in the morning, like, because y'all are talking 147 00:06:28,120 --> 00:06:30,440 Speaker 4: about me, so I actually appreciate it. 148 00:06:30,520 --> 00:06:31,200 Speaker 1: I like the haters. 149 00:06:31,240 --> 00:06:32,320 Speaker 3: Yeah, they're my friends. 150 00:06:32,480 --> 00:06:32,640 Speaker 1: Now. 151 00:06:32,680 --> 00:06:35,560 Speaker 4: You just did your your first twenty one Questions live 152 00:06:35,640 --> 00:06:36,799 Speaker 4: show in Chicago. 153 00:06:36,960 --> 00:06:39,080 Speaker 3: Yes, how do you know? 154 00:06:37,880 --> 00:06:39,159 Speaker 1: Well, what I know? 155 00:06:39,200 --> 00:06:45,000 Speaker 3: I know anything? Are there going to be other cities? Yes, 156 00:06:45,240 --> 00:06:47,360 Speaker 3: so I'm planning that right now. Thank you so much 157 00:06:47,400 --> 00:06:47,880 Speaker 3: for asking. 158 00:06:48,480 --> 00:06:51,520 Speaker 4: I just that was something that I did on my own. 159 00:06:51,680 --> 00:06:54,599 Speaker 4: So we've reasonably Shady has done live shows, yes, but 160 00:06:54,640 --> 00:06:57,160 Speaker 4: it's been me and Robin. So it was my first, 161 00:06:57,240 --> 00:06:59,880 Speaker 4: you know, Beyonce by herself. It was my first breakout 162 00:07:00,279 --> 00:07:05,080 Speaker 4: by myself. I was terrified and I did it and 163 00:07:05,160 --> 00:07:07,599 Speaker 4: I felt like I killed it, Like I felt like 164 00:07:08,080 --> 00:07:12,640 Speaker 4: I can do this. I felt comfortable, which was personally 165 00:07:12,840 --> 00:07:16,880 Speaker 4: I needed that. So yes, I'm now planning the whole tour. 166 00:07:17,000 --> 00:07:20,160 Speaker 4: So we're doing West Coast first and then we're gonna 167 00:07:20,160 --> 00:07:22,760 Speaker 4: come through Charlotte, do a little Houston, Dallas, and then 168 00:07:22,840 --> 00:07:27,080 Speaker 4: come back to New York Atlanta. Yes, so February. So 169 00:07:27,160 --> 00:07:29,480 Speaker 4: why were you nervous? What made you nervous? 170 00:07:30,120 --> 00:07:35,040 Speaker 3: Because I have a tendency to Okay. 171 00:07:35,080 --> 00:07:38,520 Speaker 4: To know me is to know that I'm very quiet 172 00:07:39,000 --> 00:07:41,920 Speaker 4: and to myself and I like to be home in 173 00:07:41,920 --> 00:07:42,840 Speaker 4: my my business. 174 00:07:43,160 --> 00:07:51,000 Speaker 3: What yes, yes, so, And I have. 175 00:07:51,000 --> 00:07:53,400 Speaker 4: A tendency to kind of say things that's really on 176 00:07:53,480 --> 00:07:56,000 Speaker 4: my mind and it could be a bit much. And 177 00:07:56,080 --> 00:07:58,120 Speaker 4: Robin always kind of like checks me in that and 178 00:07:58,160 --> 00:08:00,720 Speaker 4: she's just kind of like whoa, Like that was team 179 00:08:00,760 --> 00:08:03,720 Speaker 4: too much, like calm down. So I didn't have that person, 180 00:08:03,760 --> 00:08:06,080 Speaker 4: and just doing it by myself made me feel like 181 00:08:06,560 --> 00:08:11,240 Speaker 4: a I'm gonna mess up, and you know that's a 182 00:08:11,280 --> 00:08:13,360 Speaker 4: scary thing, like and if you don't have anybody like 183 00:08:13,400 --> 00:08:14,240 Speaker 4: to quote catch you. 184 00:08:14,880 --> 00:08:17,080 Speaker 3: So I did it well, it went well. 185 00:08:17,320 --> 00:08:20,320 Speaker 4: I was happy, and now I vis because you're adding 186 00:08:20,360 --> 00:08:21,560 Speaker 4: cities and I think that's good. 187 00:08:21,600 --> 00:08:23,880 Speaker 3: So congratulations own. 188 00:08:24,160 --> 00:08:25,440 Speaker 2: Yes, yeah. 189 00:08:25,480 --> 00:08:27,080 Speaker 1: How did you feel to have the house to yourself? 190 00:08:27,400 --> 00:08:28,280 Speaker 3: Oh my god? 191 00:08:28,320 --> 00:08:29,480 Speaker 1: Because you an empty enough? 192 00:08:29,600 --> 00:08:33,160 Speaker 3: Yes, okay, so let's talk about it because you're not there. 193 00:08:33,320 --> 00:08:33,800 Speaker 2: I'm nowhere. 194 00:08:34,200 --> 00:08:38,680 Speaker 3: You are nowhere near either of you, Okay, so let's 195 00:08:38,679 --> 00:08:39,280 Speaker 3: talk about it. 196 00:08:39,760 --> 00:08:42,000 Speaker 4: At first, I was like super sad because I dropped 197 00:08:42,040 --> 00:08:44,439 Speaker 4: off three kids in three cities in seventy two hours. 198 00:08:44,600 --> 00:08:46,640 Speaker 4: So it was like a thing and minds you all 199 00:08:46,640 --> 00:08:48,520 Speaker 4: my kids go to HBCU shout. 200 00:08:48,240 --> 00:08:52,000 Speaker 3: Out to the HBCU going to Hampton Hampton. No, no, no, no. 201 00:08:52,040 --> 00:08:54,319 Speaker 4: Grace is going to fam fam the ones in the 202 00:08:54,400 --> 00:08:58,960 Speaker 4: ones that Spelman And she's at a doors at Yes, 203 00:08:59,080 --> 00:09:01,880 Speaker 4: she's a freshman. She just finished all of her this 204 00:09:01,960 --> 00:09:04,040 Speaker 4: is her first semester. She's rocking. 205 00:09:04,080 --> 00:09:12,720 Speaker 3: What a three point nine four points? Don't get it twisted. 206 00:09:12,920 --> 00:09:15,000 Speaker 3: Don't get it twisted. That's next year's conversation. 207 00:09:15,120 --> 00:09:16,640 Speaker 2: Okay, I'm just I'm. 208 00:09:18,040 --> 00:09:18,400 Speaker 3: Okay. 209 00:09:20,000 --> 00:09:24,120 Speaker 4: So when I got home, I was super sad, like 210 00:09:25,120 --> 00:09:26,600 Speaker 4: I was just like, what am I going to do? 211 00:09:26,800 --> 00:09:28,240 Speaker 4: And then the next day I woke up and I 212 00:09:28,320 --> 00:09:30,440 Speaker 4: was like, I'm walking around the house naked. 213 00:09:31,160 --> 00:09:31,840 Speaker 3: I love that. 214 00:09:32,120 --> 00:09:35,520 Speaker 4: It's so freeing. I get up when I want to. 215 00:09:35,720 --> 00:09:37,240 Speaker 4: I don't have to go to the grocery store. I 216 00:09:37,240 --> 00:09:38,400 Speaker 4: don't have to feed anybody. 217 00:09:38,880 --> 00:09:39,720 Speaker 2: This is like. 218 00:09:41,800 --> 00:09:43,560 Speaker 3: And all I can, all I have to do is 219 00:09:43,559 --> 00:09:44,200 Speaker 3: just think about me. 220 00:09:45,080 --> 00:09:47,960 Speaker 4: And that's a great feeling to just think about yourself 221 00:09:47,960 --> 00:09:51,600 Speaker 4: after you've been thinking about and planning around somebody else's 222 00:09:51,640 --> 00:09:53,440 Speaker 4: life for a damn near twenty years. 223 00:09:53,800 --> 00:09:55,240 Speaker 3: Like it's a nice feeling. 224 00:09:55,080 --> 00:09:58,760 Speaker 4: Where you ever, I don't know how to say, have 225 00:09:58,800 --> 00:10:00,840 Speaker 4: you how did you feel about them? 226 00:10:00,880 --> 00:10:02,240 Speaker 1: Splitting up, like. 227 00:10:03,720 --> 00:10:04,959 Speaker 3: To Hampton and Angel. 228 00:10:05,520 --> 00:10:09,120 Speaker 4: So they both applied to both colleges and they both 229 00:10:09,160 --> 00:10:11,880 Speaker 4: got in to Hampton and Spellman. So I was thinking 230 00:10:11,880 --> 00:10:16,280 Speaker 4: they were just gonna make the decisions stay together. However, 231 00:10:16,640 --> 00:10:19,040 Speaker 4: Angels a better fit for Spellman. A door is a 232 00:10:19,040 --> 00:10:19,960 Speaker 4: better fit for Hampton. 233 00:10:21,040 --> 00:10:21,800 Speaker 3: A door at. 234 00:10:21,679 --> 00:10:25,120 Speaker 4: Spelman would kill her because it's just not a good 235 00:10:25,160 --> 00:10:27,920 Speaker 4: fit for her. It's they're they're very quiet, they're very studious. 236 00:10:28,480 --> 00:10:30,480 Speaker 4: They party like once a week. You know, she need 237 00:10:30,520 --> 00:10:32,560 Speaker 4: a party like three times a week, so she need 238 00:10:32,559 --> 00:10:33,079 Speaker 4: to get it in. 239 00:10:33,280 --> 00:10:33,520 Speaker 3: Yeah. 240 00:10:35,360 --> 00:10:38,840 Speaker 4: So I was concerned, but I knew that if they 241 00:10:38,840 --> 00:10:40,680 Speaker 4: were were going to split up, they would thrive, and 242 00:10:40,720 --> 00:10:41,040 Speaker 4: they are. 243 00:10:41,160 --> 00:10:41,720 Speaker 3: They're thriving. 244 00:10:42,440 --> 00:10:44,120 Speaker 5: How did that even feel having all three of your 245 00:10:44,200 --> 00:10:47,000 Speaker 5: kids go to college in h I got four daughters, 246 00:10:47,040 --> 00:10:48,439 Speaker 5: a whole ball of them go to college. 247 00:10:48,200 --> 00:10:51,360 Speaker 1: But they have all three, Yeah, ended up going to college. 248 00:10:52,120 --> 00:10:53,080 Speaker 3: I didn't realize that. 249 00:10:53,160 --> 00:10:56,120 Speaker 4: It was like, like I did a great job until 250 00:10:56,120 --> 00:10:58,079 Speaker 4: people started telling me, they're like, just so this is 251 00:10:58,120 --> 00:11:00,000 Speaker 4: a flex, Like you got all three of your girls 252 00:11:00,120 --> 00:11:03,040 Speaker 4: in college, a black college. 253 00:11:02,679 --> 00:11:04,640 Speaker 3: I'm super proud of them. 254 00:11:05,120 --> 00:11:08,720 Speaker 4: I you know, when you're in it, you don't realize 255 00:11:09,360 --> 00:11:11,440 Speaker 4: you're what you're doing. And when I was in it, 256 00:11:11,480 --> 00:11:14,559 Speaker 4: I didn't realize, like, yeah, I'm making my life all 257 00:11:14,600 --> 00:11:17,680 Speaker 4: about them. I'm making sure that they're doing all the 258 00:11:17,720 --> 00:11:20,679 Speaker 4: extracurricular stuff and that they're expanding their horizons. 259 00:11:21,280 --> 00:11:25,160 Speaker 3: So I felt like this is what I'm supposed to 260 00:11:25,160 --> 00:11:25,440 Speaker 3: be doing. 261 00:11:25,559 --> 00:11:28,480 Speaker 4: But now that I see the result of it, I'm like, damn, 262 00:11:28,559 --> 00:11:31,959 Speaker 4: I did that thing, and I'm just proud of them 263 00:11:31,960 --> 00:11:35,439 Speaker 4: because they are. You know, you want your kids to 264 00:11:36,320 --> 00:11:39,000 Speaker 4: live their best life, but they really are, so it's 265 00:11:39,280 --> 00:11:39,760 Speaker 4: nice to see. 266 00:11:39,760 --> 00:11:41,080 Speaker 1: And you didn't try to influence all of them to 267 00:11:41,080 --> 00:11:41,600 Speaker 1: go to Hampden. 268 00:11:41,960 --> 00:11:49,199 Speaker 3: I didn't, did I M I mean I wanted listen. 269 00:11:49,559 --> 00:11:51,920 Speaker 4: Their dad went to more House, so he wanted one 270 00:11:51,960 --> 00:11:54,600 Speaker 4: on them as Spelman, I wanted one of them at Hampton, 271 00:11:56,440 --> 00:11:57,200 Speaker 4: and it worked out. 272 00:11:57,520 --> 00:12:00,080 Speaker 2: I was gonna ask, when you know co parenting, how 273 00:12:00,120 --> 00:12:01,440 Speaker 2: did y'all get to the place where y'all can co 274 00:12:01,559 --> 00:12:03,480 Speaker 2: parent that way? Because y'all went through a divorce and 275 00:12:03,520 --> 00:12:04,880 Speaker 2: I'm sure it wasn't a nice divorce. 276 00:12:04,960 --> 00:12:05,680 Speaker 1: No, how did y'all get to. 277 00:12:05,640 --> 00:12:07,960 Speaker 2: A point where y're Of course, of course, so when 278 00:12:08,040 --> 00:12:09,600 Speaker 2: y'all got to a place where it was where y'all 279 00:12:09,600 --> 00:12:12,920 Speaker 2: both could really co parent and take all the emotions 280 00:12:12,920 --> 00:12:14,120 Speaker 2: out of it. How did y'all get there? 281 00:12:14,480 --> 00:12:16,480 Speaker 3: When did that have I'm gonna be honest, it was 282 00:12:16,559 --> 00:12:17,400 Speaker 3: it was a lot of me. 283 00:12:19,320 --> 00:12:20,040 Speaker 2: That was the problem. 284 00:12:20,520 --> 00:12:23,640 Speaker 4: No, No, it was a lot of I decided when 285 00:12:23,600 --> 00:12:25,640 Speaker 4: they because they we got divorced. They were little, they 286 00:12:25,640 --> 00:12:28,000 Speaker 4: were like two and three, and I decided. I got 287 00:12:28,360 --> 00:12:31,240 Speaker 4: my attorney told me, you got a long road with 288 00:12:31,320 --> 00:12:36,040 Speaker 4: this guy. So if you don't like him, if you 289 00:12:36,080 --> 00:12:38,920 Speaker 4: think he's a fool, you got to put that in 290 00:12:38,960 --> 00:12:40,800 Speaker 4: the back burner because it's about your kids. 291 00:12:41,240 --> 00:12:42,839 Speaker 3: So I had to just let it go. 292 00:12:43,559 --> 00:12:45,680 Speaker 4: Did he throughout the course of their life pissed me 293 00:12:45,720 --> 00:12:46,520 Speaker 4: off every other day? 294 00:12:46,640 --> 00:12:48,440 Speaker 3: Yes, But I had to let it go. 295 00:12:48,480 --> 00:12:50,480 Speaker 4: And I didn't want them to feel like because we're 296 00:12:50,480 --> 00:12:54,520 Speaker 4: getting a divorce, they didn't didn't have a family unit. 297 00:12:54,920 --> 00:12:57,840 Speaker 4: So I would invite him to everything. We're going on vacation, 298 00:12:58,080 --> 00:13:01,280 Speaker 4: he can come, we're doing dinners, he can come. And 299 00:13:01,320 --> 00:13:04,760 Speaker 4: as long as he didn't, you know, clearly pissed me off, 300 00:13:05,000 --> 00:13:08,160 Speaker 4: then we can continue to do it. So yeah, I 301 00:13:08,200 --> 00:13:10,040 Speaker 4: mean it's tough, but you got to just put your 302 00:13:10,120 --> 00:13:10,880 Speaker 4: kids first. 303 00:13:11,120 --> 00:13:13,000 Speaker 2: When you went on vacation or you invited him. Was 304 00:13:13,000 --> 00:13:15,600 Speaker 2: he able to bring his new girl or were you? 305 00:13:15,600 --> 00:13:18,680 Speaker 3: Now, I mean he could have, he just never did. 306 00:13:19,160 --> 00:13:22,760 Speaker 4: Yeah, and I in my vacations, I kept it about the. 307 00:13:22,800 --> 00:13:24,880 Speaker 3: Kids, okay, because I one was going to ask you 308 00:13:24,920 --> 00:13:28,480 Speaker 3: what would have happened to him? But never mind because 309 00:13:29,320 --> 00:13:29,679 Speaker 3: change it. 310 00:13:29,720 --> 00:13:32,400 Speaker 4: I mean we had we didn't stay in the same room, 311 00:13:32,480 --> 00:13:34,760 Speaker 4: so he might have had flown somebody out and I 312 00:13:34,760 --> 00:13:38,240 Speaker 4: never saw her. But he kept it respectable in front 313 00:13:38,240 --> 00:13:41,400 Speaker 4: of the kids, for sure, which I appreciate. 314 00:13:41,559 --> 00:13:43,520 Speaker 3: I appreciate that. But no, it's not easy. 315 00:13:43,840 --> 00:13:47,760 Speaker 4: And to Jamal's credit, because I had them the majority 316 00:13:47,800 --> 00:13:51,400 Speaker 4: of the time, he let me do my thing with 317 00:13:51,440 --> 00:13:54,600 Speaker 4: the girls. He wasn't like a helicopter parent and like 318 00:13:54,679 --> 00:13:58,680 Speaker 4: trying to question how I was parenting them. So that 319 00:13:59,120 --> 00:14:01,880 Speaker 4: was I appreciate that, let me do my thing. And 320 00:14:01,920 --> 00:14:05,000 Speaker 4: with you being an open nester, now yes, dating because 321 00:14:05,320 --> 00:14:22,120 Speaker 4: getting back to your naked knowledge, I'm sorry, I haven't 322 00:14:22,120 --> 00:14:26,800 Speaker 4: even heard the term open nest Jesus, what empty? 323 00:14:27,440 --> 00:14:32,040 Speaker 3: I like, open, open, open, open again. 324 00:14:33,680 --> 00:14:35,840 Speaker 4: So they facetimey all the time and they see I'm naked, 325 00:14:35,840 --> 00:14:39,160 Speaker 4: and they're like, please put some clothes on. So the 326 00:14:39,200 --> 00:14:41,480 Speaker 4: whole walking around naked is a thing. It's a good 327 00:14:41,560 --> 00:14:44,120 Speaker 4: thing because that like makes you feel sexy. 328 00:14:44,560 --> 00:14:47,120 Speaker 2: Yes, so yes, the landscape has come more than once 329 00:14:47,160 --> 00:14:47,920 Speaker 2: a week and show. 330 00:14:50,400 --> 00:14:51,040 Speaker 1: Three times a week. 331 00:14:52,920 --> 00:14:55,920 Speaker 4: I don't stand in front the window empty, right, So 332 00:14:56,240 --> 00:14:57,640 Speaker 4: it's it's a good feeling. 333 00:14:57,720 --> 00:14:59,880 Speaker 3: And yes, I have been dating. 334 00:15:00,080 --> 00:15:01,640 Speaker 4: Your question because I sing on the show you did 335 00:15:01,720 --> 00:15:03,840 Speaker 4: speed dating with Ash who was now divorced. 336 00:15:04,160 --> 00:15:06,640 Speaker 3: But yes, how was there? Are you still seeing the 337 00:15:06,680 --> 00:15:08,280 Speaker 3: guy from the speed data? 338 00:15:08,400 --> 00:15:12,640 Speaker 4: Yeah he's around, Yeah, there's several. You got a roster, Yes, 339 00:15:13,920 --> 00:15:16,880 Speaker 4: it's about that. It's because I have the time now. 340 00:15:17,280 --> 00:15:19,640 Speaker 3: Yes, So if you had time for a roster, you'd 341 00:15:19,640 --> 00:15:21,960 Speaker 3: have a roster, that's right. Yeah, and if you weren't 342 00:15:22,000 --> 00:15:24,600 Speaker 3: in committed relationships people, which all of you are in. 343 00:15:24,760 --> 00:15:27,240 Speaker 4: Yes, yes, okay, because I used to have a roster 344 00:15:27,280 --> 00:15:35,280 Speaker 4: girl up and down the streets, Chris, Chris, I just 345 00:15:35,280 --> 00:15:35,800 Speaker 4: settled down. 346 00:15:36,000 --> 00:15:38,160 Speaker 3: Yeah, No, I feel like it's my time. 347 00:15:38,320 --> 00:15:40,920 Speaker 4: I feel like I'm not going to settle into something 348 00:15:40,960 --> 00:15:42,280 Speaker 4: unless it's really, really really right. 349 00:15:42,480 --> 00:15:44,840 Speaker 3: Yeah, and I earned that. 350 00:15:45,040 --> 00:15:46,560 Speaker 2: Yeah, do you want to get married again? 351 00:15:47,360 --> 00:15:51,040 Speaker 4: So I have said for like the longest time, absolutely, 352 00:15:51,120 --> 00:15:53,080 Speaker 4: not like for what like what does that bring to me, 353 00:15:55,440 --> 00:15:55,960 Speaker 4: but I might. 354 00:15:56,400 --> 00:15:56,880 Speaker 3: I'm open. 355 00:15:57,520 --> 00:15:58,320 Speaker 2: What changed your mind? 356 00:15:58,760 --> 00:15:59,440 Speaker 1: What's his name? 357 00:16:00,480 --> 00:16:01,200 Speaker 3: Mind? Your business? 358 00:16:04,040 --> 00:16:08,080 Speaker 4: I'm open because I do feel, like, you know, my 359 00:16:08,160 --> 00:16:11,080 Speaker 4: kids have never seen like a straight up family unit, 360 00:16:12,160 --> 00:16:15,680 Speaker 4: and they don't really understand the concept of what that means. 361 00:16:16,200 --> 00:16:18,560 Speaker 3: So if I'm able to give. 362 00:16:18,400 --> 00:16:21,520 Speaker 4: That to them, and if the guy is I'm asane, 363 00:16:21,800 --> 00:16:22,360 Speaker 4: then I will. 364 00:16:23,000 --> 00:16:26,720 Speaker 3: And is that how? And there will be major prenups 365 00:16:26,920 --> 00:16:29,280 Speaker 3: trusts all that handled. 366 00:16:29,440 --> 00:16:33,120 Speaker 4: I was just gonna ask you about how you're moving 367 00:16:33,120 --> 00:16:35,720 Speaker 4: forward with, Like how do you date now? Because your 368 00:16:36,120 --> 00:16:38,840 Speaker 4: last marriage infidelity. 369 00:16:38,440 --> 00:16:39,440 Speaker 3: Played a big part in it. 370 00:16:39,760 --> 00:16:43,240 Speaker 4: So how are you with trusting who you're even dating 371 00:16:43,280 --> 00:16:44,520 Speaker 4: even if it's not exclusive? 372 00:16:44,600 --> 00:16:46,400 Speaker 3: Like are you scared? 373 00:16:46,760 --> 00:16:49,800 Speaker 4: Like, no, not scared at all. I mean, I think 374 00:16:49,840 --> 00:16:54,000 Speaker 4: all of us have trust issues just by nature, we 375 00:16:54,080 --> 00:16:58,640 Speaker 4: black people, Like who are we trusting? But at some 376 00:16:58,680 --> 00:17:02,280 Speaker 4: point in time you gotta let go. And I I'm 377 00:17:02,320 --> 00:17:04,800 Speaker 4: okay with that. I'm okay with being with a man 378 00:17:05,000 --> 00:17:07,520 Speaker 4: and I can finally just like let it go. Yeah, 379 00:17:07,840 --> 00:17:09,720 Speaker 4: And I'm not the girl to like, I don't know 380 00:17:09,720 --> 00:17:12,160 Speaker 4: about you, Jess, but I don't like look through people's 381 00:17:12,200 --> 00:17:17,920 Speaker 4: phones and I'm not I'm not like trying to find 382 00:17:17,960 --> 00:17:19,600 Speaker 4: I'm not trying to be FBI, I'm not trying to 383 00:17:19,600 --> 00:17:20,960 Speaker 4: find out what you're doing. 384 00:17:21,320 --> 00:17:22,600 Speaker 3: I actually just don't care. 385 00:17:23,480 --> 00:17:26,200 Speaker 4: So if you're out here doing something, I'm the easiest 386 00:17:26,200 --> 00:17:28,120 Speaker 4: girl to cheat on, because like I just I won't. 387 00:17:28,160 --> 00:17:28,400 Speaker 1: I won't. 388 00:17:28,400 --> 00:17:31,240 Speaker 4: I'll be the last to though. Yeah, So once you 389 00:17:31,280 --> 00:17:33,200 Speaker 4: break the trust, it's a problem. 390 00:17:33,600 --> 00:17:38,040 Speaker 3: Kids with your dating with. So they hate everybody. 391 00:17:38,200 --> 00:17:42,880 Speaker 2: I'm sure do they nobody good enough for moms. 392 00:17:43,640 --> 00:17:47,640 Speaker 4: But they feel like I just run through them. I mean, 393 00:17:47,640 --> 00:17:57,960 Speaker 4: not like that was terrible to let me clean that up, Okay, 394 00:17:57,960 --> 00:18:00,399 Speaker 4: do I run through Okay? So they just feel like 395 00:18:00,760 --> 00:18:03,840 Speaker 4: I don't take anybody seriously and I don't allow men 396 00:18:03,920 --> 00:18:04,440 Speaker 4: to make. 397 00:18:04,320 --> 00:18:06,680 Speaker 3: Mistakes that I'm just like onto the next. 398 00:18:07,119 --> 00:18:10,000 Speaker 4: So they don't really even get invested unless they really 399 00:18:10,040 --> 00:18:10,920 Speaker 4: see I'm invested. 400 00:18:11,480 --> 00:18:13,840 Speaker 1: Yeah, how they've been doing the show without Robin. 401 00:18:14,640 --> 00:18:17,360 Speaker 3: It was tough. It was tough, you know, Robin. Y'all 402 00:18:17,400 --> 00:18:18,480 Speaker 3: know she's notoriously late. 403 00:18:18,880 --> 00:18:21,080 Speaker 4: I was always thinking she was going to come into 404 00:18:21,119 --> 00:18:24,359 Speaker 4: the scene just late per usual. She was always kind 405 00:18:24,359 --> 00:18:26,480 Speaker 4: of like the voice of reason where people are going 406 00:18:26,600 --> 00:18:28,760 Speaker 4: left and screaming at each other. She was always looking 407 00:18:28,800 --> 00:18:31,520 Speaker 4: at like the bigger picture and we didn't have that. 408 00:18:33,359 --> 00:18:35,439 Speaker 3: So, yeah, I missed. I missed, definitely miss her. 409 00:18:35,800 --> 00:18:40,760 Speaker 4: Yeah, but she's just opened up a medspa in Colombia. 410 00:18:41,520 --> 00:18:44,400 Speaker 4: You know, the target in Columbia. Yeah, in that strip mall. 411 00:18:44,640 --> 00:18:46,119 Speaker 4: I hate that, I said the target and Columbia you 412 00:18:46,160 --> 00:18:46,639 Speaker 4: knew exactly. 413 00:18:47,280 --> 00:18:49,760 Speaker 3: Yeah, many targets in Colombia. 414 00:18:49,880 --> 00:18:53,119 Speaker 4: Yeah, okay, so it's in that in that mall. 415 00:18:53,160 --> 00:18:55,879 Speaker 3: Congratulations, Yeah, definitely. It's called Glow thirty. 416 00:18:56,359 --> 00:18:58,119 Speaker 4: Yeah. The next time you're in town and it's like 417 00:18:58,160 --> 00:18:59,760 Speaker 4: a subscription type of medspot. 418 00:18:59,800 --> 00:19:00,640 Speaker 3: She's she's doing great. 419 00:19:01,119 --> 00:19:03,840 Speaker 5: Did you ever think about walking because she said she 420 00:19:03,880 --> 00:19:05,919 Speaker 5: got fired? Did you ever think about walking when she 421 00:19:05,960 --> 00:19:06,239 Speaker 5: got fight? 422 00:19:06,800 --> 00:19:08,560 Speaker 3: I was supposed to quit my job because you got fired. 423 00:19:08,880 --> 00:19:12,359 Speaker 3: That's right, I know, that's right. I was supposed to 424 00:19:12,359 --> 00:19:13,040 Speaker 3: fumble my bag. 425 00:19:14,160 --> 00:19:14,440 Speaker 4: Doubt. 426 00:19:14,480 --> 00:19:15,600 Speaker 1: Did y'all have a combo about it? 427 00:19:15,760 --> 00:19:17,520 Speaker 3: I'm sure, of course. 428 00:19:17,560 --> 00:19:19,760 Speaker 4: Like after she got the call, she immediately called me, 429 00:19:20,400 --> 00:19:25,800 Speaker 4: but she kind of felt it coming, you know. Unfortunately, 430 00:19:25,880 --> 00:19:28,880 Speaker 4: she's in a situation in which she's with her her 431 00:19:28,920 --> 00:19:32,760 Speaker 4: guy Wan, but for whatever reason, people don't like that relationship, 432 00:19:33,000 --> 00:19:34,639 Speaker 4: and so year after year she would have to defend it, 433 00:19:34,680 --> 00:19:37,359 Speaker 4: and it was kind of like everybody was tired of this, 434 00:19:38,880 --> 00:19:41,760 Speaker 4: but you know you shouldn't. You shouldn't have to defend 435 00:19:41,880 --> 00:19:44,199 Speaker 4: the person that you have been married to, that you 436 00:19:44,320 --> 00:19:47,439 Speaker 4: love constantly, like let it be. 437 00:19:47,600 --> 00:19:48,680 Speaker 3: So she's she's not. 438 00:19:48,760 --> 00:19:50,760 Speaker 4: She's stressed free. Right now, I'm the one stressed out 439 00:19:50,760 --> 00:19:52,399 Speaker 4: because I'm still on the show. But she's like stress 440 00:19:52,440 --> 00:19:53,800 Speaker 4: free and living her best life? 441 00:19:54,000 --> 00:19:55,840 Speaker 2: Are you bringing those the people that you're dating on 442 00:19:55,840 --> 00:19:56,120 Speaker 2: the show? 443 00:19:56,119 --> 00:19:59,600 Speaker 4: And no, what what are you talkingous? Now? 444 00:20:00,520 --> 00:20:01,920 Speaker 1: Don't make the whole faith. 445 00:20:02,119 --> 00:20:04,240 Speaker 4: I mean, he's gotta be. So I did the speed dating, 446 00:20:04,640 --> 00:20:05,880 Speaker 4: so let me talk about the speed data. 447 00:20:06,920 --> 00:20:08,040 Speaker 3: So he we were. 448 00:20:07,960 --> 00:20:09,359 Speaker 4: Going out a couple of times, but then you know, 449 00:20:09,440 --> 00:20:12,440 Speaker 4: he really liked me, just like a little too much. 450 00:20:12,680 --> 00:20:14,200 Speaker 4: You know, he was like telling me all the time, 451 00:20:14,240 --> 00:20:16,160 Speaker 4: and that's kind of like the kiss of death. 452 00:20:16,200 --> 00:20:16,879 Speaker 2: You don't like affection. 453 00:20:17,720 --> 00:20:24,280 Speaker 1: I don't like infection affection affection. We don't affection. Of course, 454 00:20:24,280 --> 00:20:25,720 Speaker 1: you don't like infections affection. 455 00:20:26,720 --> 00:20:28,520 Speaker 4: I do, But it's it's a way that he did 456 00:20:28,560 --> 00:20:31,160 Speaker 4: too much, too quick, And it's like you just tell 457 00:20:31,200 --> 00:20:32,359 Speaker 4: me I'm great once. 458 00:20:32,960 --> 00:20:35,359 Speaker 3: Not like all day every day and keep praising yes, 459 00:20:35,920 --> 00:20:36,480 Speaker 3: yes that. 460 00:20:36,520 --> 00:20:36,679 Speaker 2: Is so. 461 00:20:38,520 --> 00:20:39,920 Speaker 1: What if I really feel that way. 462 00:20:40,000 --> 00:20:41,800 Speaker 5: What if I'm looking at you and I'm like, damn 463 00:20:41,880 --> 00:20:43,679 Speaker 5: your god, bless me, oh my god. 464 00:20:46,840 --> 00:20:49,360 Speaker 4: I mean, because then it's the challenge is over for me. 465 00:20:50,200 --> 00:20:52,800 Speaker 4: Then you know I got him. 466 00:20:53,440 --> 00:20:56,120 Speaker 3: Yeah, I to look forward to. Now what else? 467 00:20:56,240 --> 00:21:00,080 Speaker 4: Yeah, so or tell me in other ways, make it 468 00:21:00,200 --> 00:21:02,200 Speaker 4: be a gift, make it you know, don't tell me 469 00:21:02,240 --> 00:21:03,400 Speaker 4: what your words tell me with action. 470 00:21:03,800 --> 00:21:08,800 Speaker 3: Right, So I did something else in my life I did. 471 00:21:08,840 --> 00:21:11,879 Speaker 4: I can't say I did do a dating show, right, 472 00:21:12,400 --> 00:21:14,679 Speaker 4: So I told him about the show before I left, 473 00:21:14,720 --> 00:21:17,600 Speaker 4: and that kind of like threw him off and he 474 00:21:17,760 --> 00:21:19,359 Speaker 4: couldn't understand it, so he wouldn't thought. 475 00:21:19,200 --> 00:21:20,359 Speaker 2: He was the one and you went, you go ahead 476 00:21:20,359 --> 00:21:20,880 Speaker 2: and go on to dating. 477 00:21:20,920 --> 00:21:22,920 Speaker 4: Yeah, but I said, I I already got this bag 478 00:21:22,960 --> 00:21:24,920 Speaker 4: before I met you, so. 479 00:21:24,920 --> 00:21:25,800 Speaker 2: You should have understood. 480 00:21:26,520 --> 00:21:27,000 Speaker 3: And he did. 481 00:21:27,000 --> 00:21:29,080 Speaker 4: But he went away for like three months and then 482 00:21:29,280 --> 00:21:31,600 Speaker 4: when all of a sudden, he just like reappeared. 483 00:21:31,600 --> 00:21:34,320 Speaker 2: He went away for three months jail or no, went away. 484 00:21:34,080 --> 00:21:39,160 Speaker 4: Like out of my line talking. Yeah, way, I don't 485 00:21:39,160 --> 00:21:40,199 Speaker 4: mess with those guys anymore. 486 00:21:41,000 --> 00:21:41,879 Speaker 3: That's in my past. 487 00:21:43,359 --> 00:21:47,040 Speaker 4: So now he's back full throttle. He you know, he 488 00:21:47,080 --> 00:21:49,120 Speaker 4: wants to do trips and he wants to do all 489 00:21:49,119 --> 00:21:52,119 Speaker 4: the things because now he's putting his his full energy 490 00:21:52,160 --> 00:21:54,720 Speaker 4: and attention in it the way that I want to 491 00:21:54,760 --> 00:21:57,560 Speaker 4: receive it. That motivated him, That motivated him, So every 492 00:21:57,600 --> 00:21:59,439 Speaker 4: now and again, you just got to like let him. 493 00:22:00,480 --> 00:22:02,080 Speaker 5: So when you tell him that, when you say, look, man, 494 00:22:02,080 --> 00:22:03,560 Speaker 5: you don't got to tell me I'm great all the time, 495 00:22:03,840 --> 00:22:04,720 Speaker 5: how does he react to that? 496 00:22:05,480 --> 00:22:05,680 Speaker 1: Well? 497 00:22:05,840 --> 00:22:07,520 Speaker 4: Just so, I mean, it's just I just want to 498 00:22:07,520 --> 00:22:09,600 Speaker 4: express myself. I just want to let you know. And 499 00:22:09,680 --> 00:22:11,800 Speaker 4: I mean I haven't, like you know, I haven't. 500 00:22:11,840 --> 00:22:12,080 Speaker 2: I don't. 501 00:22:12,160 --> 00:22:13,880 Speaker 3: I don't really meet women like you all the time. 502 00:22:13,920 --> 00:22:17,560 Speaker 4: And it's just yeah, I know player, Like it's just like, wow, 503 00:22:18,359 --> 00:22:19,040 Speaker 4: you understand. 504 00:22:20,119 --> 00:22:20,800 Speaker 1: I understand. 505 00:22:22,040 --> 00:22:24,080 Speaker 2: Now you're dating somebody. You want to tell us she beautiful, 506 00:22:24,080 --> 00:22:25,240 Speaker 2: but you can only tell her once a year. 507 00:22:27,560 --> 00:22:29,720 Speaker 5: You know, people always I heard what she said. You said, 508 00:22:29,920 --> 00:22:32,119 Speaker 5: he should also show you. You got to tell me, 509 00:22:32,119 --> 00:22:34,960 Speaker 5: show me what your actions. Yes, I can understand that. 510 00:22:35,040 --> 00:22:37,040 Speaker 3: Yes. And my kids mad him and they was throwing 511 00:22:37,040 --> 00:22:37,720 Speaker 3: shade at him. 512 00:22:38,040 --> 00:22:40,080 Speaker 4: So it's just like, yeah, like I said, I need 513 00:22:40,400 --> 00:22:40,920 Speaker 4: three months. 514 00:22:40,920 --> 00:22:44,359 Speaker 2: So you can't do anybody that's quote unquote average or 515 00:22:44,400 --> 00:22:46,480 Speaker 2: broke you because you're talking trips. You took on buy 516 00:22:46,480 --> 00:22:47,240 Speaker 2: me expensive gifts. 517 00:22:47,560 --> 00:22:51,760 Speaker 4: Daughter is like, nope, okay, thank you putting words in 518 00:22:51,880 --> 00:22:52,399 Speaker 4: my mouth. 519 00:22:52,440 --> 00:22:54,000 Speaker 3: All right, you don't have to. 520 00:22:54,160 --> 00:22:56,160 Speaker 4: I'm not the Gucci Louis product girl, Like, you don't 521 00:22:56,160 --> 00:22:59,520 Speaker 4: have to. Yes on right now, how I bought this 522 00:22:59,520 --> 00:23:00,000 Speaker 4: for myself? 523 00:23:00,160 --> 00:23:01,480 Speaker 3: Okay, right, I don't. 524 00:23:01,720 --> 00:23:04,959 Speaker 4: I don't need that, but you can show me little flowers. 525 00:23:05,280 --> 00:23:08,160 Speaker 4: It doesn't have to be it's okay. So to answer 526 00:23:08,160 --> 00:23:12,680 Speaker 4: your question, my daddy a man that's broke, Now, that's 527 00:23:12,880 --> 00:23:15,520 Speaker 4: that's like, why would I do that? 528 00:23:15,440 --> 00:23:18,399 Speaker 1: That was because you're trying to get a politically correct Anthony're. 529 00:23:18,000 --> 00:23:23,600 Speaker 4: Like, look, I'm not, and Jess, you can appreciate this. 530 00:23:23,640 --> 00:23:27,080 Speaker 4: You've worked hard for where you are stability. 531 00:23:26,560 --> 00:23:30,119 Speaker 3: And financialist, right as have I. Why you don't need 532 00:23:30,160 --> 00:23:31,000 Speaker 3: to take care of a man? 533 00:23:31,160 --> 00:23:31,360 Speaker 2: No? 534 00:23:31,600 --> 00:23:35,160 Speaker 4: No, so it's no. And I don't know who you're with. Yeah, 535 00:23:35,320 --> 00:23:37,280 Speaker 4: it's I'm not with somebody I got to take care 536 00:23:37,640 --> 00:23:40,040 Speaker 4: thank you. Now. I was in a relationship like that, 537 00:23:40,320 --> 00:23:42,119 Speaker 4: a couple of relationships like that, so I definitely know 538 00:23:42,160 --> 00:23:44,840 Speaker 4: what you mean. No, I don't want to date nobody broke, 539 00:23:45,359 --> 00:23:47,720 Speaker 4: but and I know that because I've dated broke people. 540 00:23:48,320 --> 00:23:51,440 Speaker 6: So that's why I know that she probably never did. 541 00:23:51,520 --> 00:23:54,080 Speaker 4: I've dated broke men and been up you know what 542 00:23:54,119 --> 00:23:56,800 Speaker 4: I mean, and try to help and not no. 543 00:23:57,080 --> 00:24:00,320 Speaker 1: No, if he's a great man, everything, you just don't 544 00:24:00,320 --> 00:24:01,640 Speaker 1: have the finance. 545 00:24:01,880 --> 00:24:04,160 Speaker 4: So so that can only go so far, and I'm 546 00:24:04,200 --> 00:24:06,080 Speaker 4: fine with that, but it can only go like in 547 00:24:06,119 --> 00:24:09,280 Speaker 4: the bedroom, and then like where are we going to dinner? No, 548 00:24:09,320 --> 00:24:10,960 Speaker 4: you can't pay. Are we going on the trip? No, 549 00:24:11,240 --> 00:24:13,080 Speaker 4: I can't afford my tickets, you can't afford yours. 550 00:24:13,119 --> 00:24:14,480 Speaker 1: And of course they love you. 551 00:24:14,600 --> 00:24:17,479 Speaker 3: Yeah, so it's like, where what are we doing here? Yeah? 552 00:24:18,240 --> 00:24:20,680 Speaker 1: I got the show with love Hotel right, hotel? 553 00:24:21,160 --> 00:24:23,639 Speaker 2: Yes. Now I wanted to ask about the I know 554 00:24:23,680 --> 00:24:25,680 Speaker 2: you're still in a lawsuit with Eminem? Did that ever 555 00:24:25,880 --> 00:24:28,120 Speaker 2: finish that? Whatever happened with that? Is it over yet? 556 00:24:28,200 --> 00:24:31,520 Speaker 4: Y'all could probably appreciate this, y'all probably no more than me. Okay, 557 00:24:31,520 --> 00:24:34,919 Speaker 4: So y'all know a guy named Paul Rosenberg managing we 558 00:24:34,960 --> 00:24:39,600 Speaker 4: deposed him, and from that, okay, I can't say much. 559 00:24:39,680 --> 00:24:42,560 Speaker 3: From that, I think it's almost over. It's almost over. 560 00:24:43,040 --> 00:24:47,680 Speaker 4: So the our position was Eminem deposed. Eminem's team had 561 00:24:47,720 --> 00:24:50,320 Speaker 4: me and Robin deposed, So all is fair in love 562 00:24:50,320 --> 00:24:53,080 Speaker 4: and war. We're going to depose eminem. So when our 563 00:24:53,119 --> 00:24:55,439 Speaker 4: side said, okay, we need to post him, all hell 564 00:24:55,520 --> 00:24:58,960 Speaker 4: broke loose, it was like, oh, no, no, never, he 565 00:24:58,960 --> 00:25:01,520 Speaker 4: doesn't even know anything about Well if he doesn't know 566 00:25:01,560 --> 00:25:03,400 Speaker 4: anything about this, why are we here? 567 00:25:03,760 --> 00:25:06,200 Speaker 1: Because his name is all in the headline. 568 00:25:05,800 --> 00:25:07,720 Speaker 3: Right, But that's a lot. I mean you had to 569 00:25:07,760 --> 00:25:08,600 Speaker 3: have told him something. 570 00:25:09,240 --> 00:25:13,119 Speaker 4: So because of that, I think that there have decided, Okay, 571 00:25:13,240 --> 00:25:16,920 Speaker 4: these girls aren't going away, and like we got to 572 00:25:16,960 --> 00:25:19,000 Speaker 4: settle well, Patent and Trade is going to settle it 573 00:25:19,440 --> 00:25:21,080 Speaker 4: or figure it out because we're at the end of 574 00:25:21,119 --> 00:25:24,920 Speaker 4: the road. All depositions have been done, all disclosures, all all, 575 00:25:24,960 --> 00:25:26,120 Speaker 4: and yes, we've spent a lot of money. 576 00:25:26,320 --> 00:25:27,840 Speaker 2: Last how much do you pay your lawyer fees? 577 00:25:28,600 --> 00:25:32,120 Speaker 3: It's still ongoing, but a lot, a lot. 578 00:25:32,440 --> 00:25:34,560 Speaker 1: He didn't He don't own the word shady. 579 00:25:34,800 --> 00:25:39,120 Speaker 4: You don't own the word shady. And what they don't 580 00:25:39,359 --> 00:25:41,760 Speaker 4: and what we know is there have been other companies, 581 00:25:41,840 --> 00:25:45,720 Speaker 4: small companies, insignific not insignatany but small like upstarts, that 582 00:25:45,920 --> 00:25:48,359 Speaker 4: have had shady in their name, and they paid them all, 583 00:25:48,880 --> 00:25:50,439 Speaker 4: they paid them all to go away, just to make 584 00:25:50,480 --> 00:25:52,800 Speaker 4: it go away. We weren't going to do that or 585 00:25:52,840 --> 00:25:55,480 Speaker 4: unless y'all didn't offer something that could make us go away. 586 00:25:55,520 --> 00:25:59,119 Speaker 4: But no, we're too far in now, and no, it's no, 587 00:25:59,320 --> 00:26:01,399 Speaker 4: And I don't even get it, Like, why would you 588 00:26:01,480 --> 00:26:04,639 Speaker 4: be doing this to us because we, thank god we 589 00:26:04,720 --> 00:26:07,080 Speaker 4: had the money, but let's just say we didn't and 590 00:26:07,119 --> 00:26:08,960 Speaker 4: we're just two black women out here just trying to 591 00:26:09,000 --> 00:26:10,479 Speaker 4: make a dial out of fifteen cents. 592 00:26:10,600 --> 00:26:10,879 Speaker 2: Yeah. 593 00:26:10,960 --> 00:26:13,359 Speaker 5: Yeah, make sure you subscribe to the Reasonably Shady podcast 594 00:26:13,440 --> 00:26:16,159 Speaker 5: on the blacka Ieheart Radio podcast network, available everywhere you 595 00:26:16,240 --> 00:26:16,840 Speaker 5: listening to the podcasts. 596 00:26:16,880 --> 00:26:18,320 Speaker 3: There you go and we drop all my dates. 597 00:26:18,640 --> 00:26:21,520 Speaker 4: Yeah, world, quick, what is the real beef with Karen 598 00:26:22,000 --> 00:26:24,760 Speaker 4: and who you kring to me? 599 00:26:25,040 --> 00:26:25,399 Speaker 3: Yeah? 600 00:26:25,440 --> 00:26:28,200 Speaker 4: Because you know what one one minute, y'all throwing shade 601 00:26:28,359 --> 00:26:29,520 Speaker 4: and y'all supporting each other. 602 00:26:29,640 --> 00:26:30,440 Speaker 1: Is there a real beef? 603 00:26:30,480 --> 00:26:33,960 Speaker 6: Is what I should have said, beef any underlying issues. 604 00:26:34,200 --> 00:26:37,000 Speaker 4: To truth be told? I think Karen I obviously we 605 00:26:37,040 --> 00:26:39,600 Speaker 4: started to show together. Yeah, let's pray for Karen because 606 00:26:39,600 --> 00:26:44,560 Speaker 4: she's going to court next week. I think that in 607 00:26:44,680 --> 00:26:49,159 Speaker 4: Karen's mind, she wanted to be whatever she wanted to 608 00:26:49,160 --> 00:26:52,800 Speaker 4: be as far as the show was concerned, and she 609 00:26:52,840 --> 00:26:55,240 Speaker 4: had a lot of people in her ear and so 610 00:26:55,320 --> 00:26:56,879 Speaker 4: I think that that caused her to like come for 611 00:26:57,000 --> 00:26:59,000 Speaker 4: me and come for me. Yeah. But I've known Karen 612 00:26:59,000 --> 00:27:01,840 Speaker 4: since before the show started, like we were friends, so 613 00:27:01,960 --> 00:27:04,040 Speaker 4: I knew what she was doing sometimes on camera was 614 00:27:04,080 --> 00:27:04,720 Speaker 4: just some nonsense. 615 00:27:04,760 --> 00:27:06,480 Speaker 3: And I was gonna ride with you with this nonsense. 616 00:27:06,880 --> 00:27:08,680 Speaker 4: But I mean, we've been doing this for so long now, 617 00:27:08,760 --> 00:27:11,560 Speaker 4: Like at its core, we love each other. At its core, 618 00:27:11,680 --> 00:27:13,960 Speaker 4: we root for each other. But she just comes from 619 00:27:13,960 --> 00:27:14,400 Speaker 4: me because. 620 00:27:14,240 --> 00:27:15,359 Speaker 3: She gets bored, got it. 621 00:27:15,480 --> 00:27:18,720 Speaker 4: Yeah, And I'm okay with that. I'll play, I'll play. 622 00:27:18,560 --> 00:27:19,439 Speaker 3: With you you. 623 00:27:21,119 --> 00:27:23,200 Speaker 4: Okay, I just had to except for myself. I watched 624 00:27:23,200 --> 00:27:26,560 Speaker 4: the Yes, myself and Ashley is on the show. Yeah, 625 00:27:26,760 --> 00:27:29,399 Speaker 4: I've been doing a lot of business together. Yes, yes, 626 00:27:29,600 --> 00:27:31,439 Speaker 4: and and actually it's wild. 627 00:27:32,359 --> 00:27:35,440 Speaker 3: Yes, I don't like. How do y'all feel about public 628 00:27:36,119 --> 00:27:38,120 Speaker 3: displays of affection? Mm hmm. 629 00:27:38,720 --> 00:27:40,080 Speaker 1: That depends. 630 00:27:40,600 --> 00:27:44,520 Speaker 3: It depends on where we at. 631 00:27:44,800 --> 00:27:47,680 Speaker 4: Yeahs, Like, you know, if we're going somewhere, if it's 632 00:27:47,680 --> 00:27:51,160 Speaker 4: the date night and we're somewhere intimate, fine, But I don't. 633 00:27:50,960 --> 00:27:52,600 Speaker 3: Really like the hold hands. 634 00:27:52,640 --> 00:28:06,880 Speaker 4: I don't like every now and then. 635 00:28:02,000 --> 00:28:04,840 Speaker 6: So yeah, I don't know. I can have a little 636 00:28:04,840 --> 00:28:06,080 Speaker 6: small laps hands don't hold them. 637 00:28:06,200 --> 00:28:09,320 Speaker 3: Yes, you know, so, I don't know. It just it depends. 638 00:28:09,359 --> 00:28:11,960 Speaker 3: It just depends. I don't really like public affections. 639 00:28:13,040 --> 00:28:15,160 Speaker 1: Yes, I'm very affectionate in public. 640 00:28:15,880 --> 00:28:19,720 Speaker 4: Okay, so, but if so, I I like that, but 641 00:28:19,760 --> 00:28:21,520 Speaker 4: I've got to be like in a relationship or really 642 00:28:21,520 --> 00:28:23,440 Speaker 4: with this guy. So to meet all these guys and 643 00:28:23,520 --> 00:28:25,760 Speaker 4: all of a sudden like like they want to kiss 644 00:28:25,800 --> 00:28:28,440 Speaker 4: me on camera, like, it kind of freaks me out. 645 00:28:28,560 --> 00:28:30,560 Speaker 5: See that's whack because, like you said, you're not in 646 00:28:30,600 --> 00:28:32,520 Speaker 5: a relationship, and these guys might be doing that just 647 00:28:32,560 --> 00:28:34,120 Speaker 5: because you are yourself. 648 00:28:34,640 --> 00:28:36,320 Speaker 1: Let me get a look. They could be cloud chasing. 649 00:28:36,320 --> 00:28:37,160 Speaker 1: You don't know, you know what I mean. 650 00:28:37,240 --> 00:28:40,600 Speaker 4: Yes, so, but other ladies on the show, they was 651 00:28:40,600 --> 00:28:44,640 Speaker 4: cool with it. And so it's you'll see just all 652 00:28:44,680 --> 00:28:50,400 Speaker 4: over here being apprude and you'll see pimps up, hose down. 653 00:28:50,440 --> 00:28:53,160 Speaker 3: Okay, So what's. 654 00:28:53,040 --> 00:28:54,960 Speaker 5: Up with Mia Thornton. I heard you say that she's 655 00:28:55,080 --> 00:28:57,240 Speaker 5: she's dead to you? And it's two part questions. You 656 00:28:57,240 --> 00:28:59,960 Speaker 5: said she's dead to you, and they're hard when people 657 00:29:00,080 --> 00:29:02,760 Speaker 5: bring your children into the reality show. 658 00:29:02,880 --> 00:29:06,440 Speaker 4: Yeah, no, so the second part, Yes, it is disgusting 659 00:29:06,880 --> 00:29:10,120 Speaker 4: when you talk about children. They didn't sign up for this, 660 00:29:10,160 --> 00:29:12,520 Speaker 4: and children just off limits. That's like across the board. 661 00:29:12,600 --> 00:29:15,800 Speaker 4: Children are off limits. So if you want to come 662 00:29:15,800 --> 00:29:18,320 Speaker 4: for me, come for me, like you don't have to 663 00:29:18,320 --> 00:29:22,440 Speaker 4: bring my children into this, So that for me is 664 00:29:22,480 --> 00:29:24,480 Speaker 4: a point of no return. Like she and I used 665 00:29:24,480 --> 00:29:27,479 Speaker 4: to be friends off camera, but that's over. And I 666 00:29:27,520 --> 00:29:30,520 Speaker 4: feel like you do it when you're desperate. You do 667 00:29:30,560 --> 00:29:31,520 Speaker 4: stuff like that when you're. 668 00:29:31,360 --> 00:29:34,000 Speaker 1: Desperate, when you ain't got no storyline, when. 669 00:29:34,080 --> 00:29:36,200 Speaker 4: You desperately want to think that this is going to 670 00:29:36,320 --> 00:29:40,160 Speaker 4: elevate you. And it didn't really work out that well 671 00:29:40,160 --> 00:29:43,320 Speaker 4: for her. I mean, I don't nobody's buying into that. Yeah, 672 00:29:43,440 --> 00:29:45,240 Speaker 4: and she's got enough to worry about. She got a husband, 673 00:29:45,280 --> 00:29:47,840 Speaker 4: she got a little boyfriend, she's she don't know the 674 00:29:47,880 --> 00:29:48,760 Speaker 4: paternity of her child. 675 00:29:48,880 --> 00:29:50,160 Speaker 3: She I mean, don't go on. 676 00:29:50,920 --> 00:29:51,200 Speaker 2: Wow. 677 00:29:51,800 --> 00:29:57,600 Speaker 3: So yeah, she's dead to me. Still, Yes, she'll be alive. 678 00:29:58,040 --> 00:29:59,880 Speaker 1: Damn if she apologize. 679 00:30:01,120 --> 00:30:03,200 Speaker 4: So there was, So we're gonna let the show play out, 680 00:30:03,200 --> 00:30:06,480 Speaker 4: but there was. She was given ample opportunity to apologize, 681 00:30:06,480 --> 00:30:08,040 Speaker 4: but you know what she did. She doubled and tripled 682 00:30:08,040 --> 00:30:08,440 Speaker 4: down on it. 683 00:30:08,720 --> 00:30:12,000 Speaker 3: Yikes, I can't do that. And nobody plays when it 684 00:30:12,040 --> 00:30:14,200 Speaker 3: comes to their kids, playing. 685 00:30:13,960 --> 00:30:15,920 Speaker 2: About their kids nobody. Yeah. 686 00:30:15,960 --> 00:30:17,880 Speaker 4: So if you're thinking and you're gonna continue to do it, 687 00:30:17,920 --> 00:30:20,360 Speaker 4: that means you really feel that way about my kids. 688 00:30:20,440 --> 00:30:21,160 Speaker 3: And that's a never. 689 00:30:21,560 --> 00:30:21,800 Speaker 2: Yeah. 690 00:30:21,880 --> 00:30:26,840 Speaker 3: Yeah, thank you. Well, don't thank you to the dead, No, she. 691 00:30:26,800 --> 00:30:29,600 Speaker 2: Won't to apologize to l Well, the Real Housewives of 692 00:30:29,640 --> 00:30:34,600 Speaker 2: potamic that's right, Potomac Sundays on Bravo. Of course, the 693 00:30:34,640 --> 00:30:36,720 Speaker 2: Reasonably Shady podcast on. 694 00:30:36,720 --> 00:30:38,720 Speaker 5: The Black Veck I Heeart radio podcast that we're dropped 695 00:30:38,760 --> 00:30:39,560 Speaker 5: every Monday, and. 696 00:30:39,560 --> 00:30:42,120 Speaker 2: Of course the new show Love Hotel. We appreciate you 697 00:30:42,160 --> 00:30:42,760 Speaker 2: for joining us. 698 00:30:42,800 --> 00:30:44,560 Speaker 4: Thank you, Thank y'all for having me. I always love 699 00:30:44,760 --> 00:30:48,280 Speaker 4: you guys. Y'all are upmates, sing Yes, y'all love Jess. 700 00:30:48,400 --> 00:30:49,120 Speaker 2: We love Jess. 701 00:30:49,160 --> 00:30:53,600 Speaker 3: I know hello. 702 00:30:54,680 --> 00:30:56,440 Speaker 1: She was on the show That Family. 703 00:30:56,240 --> 00:30:59,280 Speaker 6: I Love and she just asked the question, you're sitting 704 00:30:59,280 --> 00:30:59,560 Speaker 6: there like. 705 00:31:01,560 --> 00:31:03,520 Speaker 3: You said nothing. 706 00:31:03,680 --> 00:31:07,480 Speaker 4: I love yeah, and I will say, I re really 707 00:31:07,520 --> 00:31:09,320 Speaker 4: appreciate being on Black Effects. 708 00:31:09,360 --> 00:31:10,600 Speaker 1: Thank you. We appreciate having. 709 00:31:10,480 --> 00:31:12,840 Speaker 3: Yes, it's you know, we feel good about what we're doing. 710 00:31:12,880 --> 00:31:15,280 Speaker 5: Absolutely, we appreciate what you. 711 00:31:15,680 --> 00:31:17,120 Speaker 1: We feel a bit about what you're doing too. 712 00:31:17,440 --> 00:31:18,280 Speaker 3: Yes, I mean it's coming. 713 00:31:18,960 --> 00:31:20,200 Speaker 1: It's one of our biggest podcasts. 714 00:31:20,240 --> 00:31:23,400 Speaker 4: Oh really absolutely, okay, it's gonna be like five seasons. 715 00:31:23,600 --> 00:31:25,200 Speaker 3: We thought you would fight, it's like three seasons. 716 00:31:25,240 --> 00:31:26,600 Speaker 1: Oh absolutely, thank god. 717 00:31:26,560 --> 00:31:28,320 Speaker 3: Not that you're making right. 718 00:31:31,280 --> 00:31:33,160 Speaker 2: It's Brian at the Breakfast Club. 719 00:31:33,200 --> 00:31:36,640 Speaker 1: Good morning, wake that ass up in the morning. The 720 00:31:36,800 --> 00:31:37,640 Speaker 1: Breakfast Club