1 00:00:00,160 --> 00:00:02,280 Speaker 1: Am I the a hole for thinking about breaking up 2 00:00:02,320 --> 00:00:05,880 Speaker 1: with my boyfriend because of his sister? Yes, Hi, everyone, 3 00:00:06,000 --> 00:00:08,399 Speaker 1: I twenty eight female and the founder and CEO of 4 00:00:08,440 --> 00:00:11,000 Speaker 1: a small tech company that I poured my heart and 5 00:00:11,080 --> 00:00:13,640 Speaker 1: soul into over the past five years. Six months ago, 6 00:00:13,720 --> 00:00:16,560 Speaker 1: my younger sister, twenty four female, lost her job due 7 00:00:16,600 --> 00:00:21,520 Speaker 1: to downsizing. Despite our rocky relationships were polar opposites, I 8 00:00:21,600 --> 00:00:25,439 Speaker 1: decided to hire her. I'm introverted in value privacy. She's 9 00:00:25,520 --> 00:00:28,840 Speaker 1: extroverted and often speaks without thinking. This is going to 10 00:00:28,840 --> 00:00:30,400 Speaker 1: be a match made in heaven. I am sure, and 11 00:00:30,440 --> 00:00:33,360 Speaker 1: this comes from loud advantage six three threes zero on 12 00:00:33,400 --> 00:00:37,320 Speaker 1: the r slash okay, storytime subred it. So initially things 13 00:00:37,360 --> 00:00:40,519 Speaker 1: went smoothly. She brought her enthusiasm to the team, and 14 00:00:40,560 --> 00:00:44,920 Speaker 1: I was hopeful this could strengthen our sisterly bond. I however, 15 00:00:45,159 --> 00:00:48,879 Speaker 1: noticed colleagues giving me odd looks and whispering when I 16 00:00:48,960 --> 00:00:54,320 Speaker 1: wasn't around. During a team lunch, one employee casually mentioned 17 00:00:54,360 --> 00:00:58,480 Speaker 1: a deeply personal family incident, joking about it as if 18 00:00:58,520 --> 00:00:59,360 Speaker 1: it were common. 19 00:01:01,120 --> 00:01:01,800 Speaker 2: I was stunned. 20 00:01:02,280 --> 00:01:04,640 Speaker 1: I pulled my sister aside and asked her if she's 21 00:01:04,680 --> 00:01:08,759 Speaker 1: been sharing personal family stories. She admitted she had, saying 22 00:01:08,800 --> 00:01:10,720 Speaker 1: it helped her connect with others and there was no 23 00:01:10,760 --> 00:01:16,360 Speaker 1: big deal. I stress that our family's history is private 24 00:01:16,640 --> 00:01:20,240 Speaker 1: and that discussing it at work was unprofessional. Brushed me off, 25 00:01:20,280 --> 00:01:23,760 Speaker 1: calling me overly sensitive. A couple of weeks later, I 26 00:01:23,800 --> 00:01:29,200 Speaker 1: discovered she had told several employees about our parents tumultuous divorce, 27 00:01:29,520 --> 00:01:33,840 Speaker 1: and even shared that our mother had struggled with substance abuse, 28 00:01:33,920 --> 00:01:37,600 Speaker 1: a painful chapter that we've worked hard to move past. 29 00:01:37,959 --> 00:01:42,040 Speaker 1: This wasn't just embarrassing. It felt like a profound betrayal. 30 00:01:42,040 --> 00:01:43,680 Speaker 1: Do you think it's a profound betrayal? Put your answers 31 00:01:43,680 --> 00:01:44,399 Speaker 1: in the college right now? 32 00:01:44,920 --> 00:01:45,080 Speaker 3: Boy? 33 00:01:45,080 --> 00:01:47,200 Speaker 2: Do you think John, there's more to the story. 34 00:01:47,680 --> 00:01:51,680 Speaker 4: I mean, I think it's definitely a lot, especially because 35 00:01:51,680 --> 00:01:55,360 Speaker 4: she's like, man, I don't have an icebreaker today. Oh, 36 00:01:55,600 --> 00:01:59,360 Speaker 4: let me talk about my parents like divorce. Divorce. 37 00:01:59,480 --> 00:02:04,200 Speaker 1: Also, way, that's like a fun water cooler topic, right yeah, 38 00:02:04,520 --> 00:02:10,200 Speaker 1: let me, Oh, how's the sandwich today, Joe? Sally? It's great? Uh, Joe, 39 00:02:10,320 --> 00:02:12,720 Speaker 1: want to hear about my parents divorce like. 40 00:02:14,440 --> 00:02:15,359 Speaker 2: Riveting? Yeah? 41 00:02:15,560 --> 00:02:18,239 Speaker 4: Maybe maybe she's getting there, Like, oh, I'm so sorry 42 00:02:18,240 --> 00:02:18,680 Speaker 4: to hear. 43 00:02:18,600 --> 00:02:25,560 Speaker 1: That, Like John, or Riley, no nas nonas because it's 44 00:02:26,440 --> 00:02:32,079 Speaker 1: it doesn't there's a not no nos. We've always done, 45 00:02:32,520 --> 00:02:35,760 Speaker 1: but we can't do nas no aholes here. It's too confusing. 46 00:02:36,400 --> 00:02:37,040 Speaker 2: No nos. 47 00:02:37,960 --> 00:02:42,080 Speaker 1: I confronted her again, but she accused me of trying 48 00:02:42,120 --> 00:02:45,880 Speaker 1: to control her and said, I was letting my CEO 49 00:02:46,120 --> 00:02:48,640 Speaker 1: status go to my head. 50 00:02:48,880 --> 00:02:52,040 Speaker 2: What do you think, right. 51 00:02:51,960 --> 00:02:54,799 Speaker 4: Because she's the CEO that does change things, that does 52 00:02:54,919 --> 00:03:00,000 Speaker 4: change things. Yeah, that's too because it's like it's tough 53 00:03:00,040 --> 00:03:04,519 Speaker 4: because it's also her experience too, Like it's the sister's experience, like, oh, hey, 54 00:03:04,560 --> 00:03:06,880 Speaker 4: this is something my parents went through and whatever else 55 00:03:06,880 --> 00:03:10,440 Speaker 4: the same as op. So that's the only thing that 56 00:03:10,520 --> 00:03:12,480 Speaker 4: was like kind of like rubbing up against It's like, well, 57 00:03:12,960 --> 00:03:15,440 Speaker 4: it is something that she also experience as an individual, 58 00:03:15,520 --> 00:03:18,880 Speaker 4: so she could be titled to it in that sense. 59 00:03:19,480 --> 00:03:22,000 Speaker 4: But I think it's just like have have some some 60 00:03:22,120 --> 00:03:26,000 Speaker 4: common sense and some tact Yeah, and and like know 61 00:03:26,120 --> 00:03:31,520 Speaker 4: that your sister's the CEO. You're here, and it's probably 62 00:03:31,600 --> 00:03:33,600 Speaker 4: not a great look for your sister, and if you 63 00:03:33,600 --> 00:03:36,320 Speaker 4: want to do that, it's probably like at least go 64 00:03:36,440 --> 00:03:38,120 Speaker 4: to your sister and ask me. I don't even know. 65 00:03:38,160 --> 00:03:50,480 Speaker 5: It's just so so weirdek Riley No, no betrial. 66 00:03:51,000 --> 00:03:54,240 Speaker 2: Why so do we think it's betrayal or nore? 67 00:03:58,320 --> 00:04:01,320 Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean I think it's like I think I 68 00:04:01,320 --> 00:04:06,640 Speaker 1: think this is the issue about hiring family without really 69 00:04:07,680 --> 00:04:12,000 Speaker 1: knowing whether your like work situation is compatible, you know, 70 00:04:12,080 --> 00:04:16,880 Speaker 1: because it's like I think, oh my god, what oh 71 00:04:17,160 --> 00:04:20,520 Speaker 1: team with twenty gifted memberships? 72 00:04:20,520 --> 00:04:25,320 Speaker 2: Oh dang, it's crazy. Yeah. 73 00:04:25,360 --> 00:04:28,920 Speaker 1: I think, like I think if maybe they had worked 74 00:04:28,920 --> 00:04:32,640 Speaker 1: together and then hired this person, you would have a 75 00:04:32,640 --> 00:04:34,840 Speaker 1: better idea of how this person is to work with 76 00:04:34,880 --> 00:04:39,200 Speaker 1: and like realize, okay, like this is the strengths, this 77 00:04:39,279 --> 00:04:42,880 Speaker 1: is the weaknesses, Like this person has a big mouth, 78 00:04:42,920 --> 00:04:45,280 Speaker 1: but I'm okay with that because I don't know of 79 00:04:45,279 --> 00:04:49,920 Speaker 1: of whatever other qualities this person brings. And so I 80 00:04:49,960 --> 00:04:56,320 Speaker 1: think the I think, yes, the sister is wrong for 81 00:04:57,200 --> 00:05:01,120 Speaker 1: doing such giving such personal things. But also this is 82 00:05:01,160 --> 00:05:04,000 Speaker 1: like now you've kind of because you don't know how 83 00:05:04,040 --> 00:05:06,200 Speaker 1: your sister is in a professional environment, like you've kind 84 00:05:06,240 --> 00:05:11,240 Speaker 1: of brought this into your company. Yeah, that has had 85 00:05:11,279 --> 00:05:14,120 Speaker 1: a negative that has a negative consequence. So it's like 86 00:05:14,600 --> 00:05:17,840 Speaker 1: it's like a little bit on you as a CEO. 87 00:05:18,080 --> 00:05:20,320 Speaker 1: I mean, like and this might be an unpopular opinion, 88 00:05:20,640 --> 00:05:23,000 Speaker 1: but like when you hire people, it is on the 89 00:05:23,040 --> 00:05:26,880 Speaker 1: person who is hiring people to ensure that they're hiring 90 00:05:26,880 --> 00:05:28,680 Speaker 1: people that are going to fit with their company culture 91 00:05:28,680 --> 00:05:31,640 Speaker 1: and stuff and not just doing like favors or whatever. 92 00:05:31,680 --> 00:05:35,120 Speaker 4: Yeah, it's I do think it is ultimately your your responsibility. 93 00:05:35,200 --> 00:05:38,599 Speaker 4: Sometimes you can't control what one does, but like it's yeah, 94 00:05:38,680 --> 00:05:40,919 Speaker 4: kind of like you ultimately bear the burden of the 95 00:05:41,080 --> 00:05:42,760 Speaker 4: responsibility that yeah. 96 00:05:42,839 --> 00:05:44,280 Speaker 2: Yeah, and so it's like, yea's not. 97 00:05:44,240 --> 00:05:45,840 Speaker 4: Your faults, but it's your responsibility. 98 00:05:45,960 --> 00:05:46,159 Speaker 2: Yeah. 99 00:05:46,200 --> 00:05:49,520 Speaker 1: And so it's like, now that this has happened, what 100 00:05:49,560 --> 00:05:50,919 Speaker 1: are you going to do about it? I mean, like 101 00:05:50,920 --> 00:05:52,680 Speaker 1: what would you do about it? 102 00:05:52,760 --> 00:05:54,359 Speaker 2: Is this like fireble. 103 00:05:54,680 --> 00:05:59,880 Speaker 4: Oh man, yes, are Yeah, that's tough. 104 00:06:00,120 --> 00:06:00,640 Speaker 2: I mean. 105 00:06:03,800 --> 00:06:04,680 Speaker 4: I don't know, how about you. 106 00:06:06,279 --> 00:06:10,880 Speaker 2: Fire Ball? Uh? It is? I think it if it 107 00:06:10,960 --> 00:06:11,520 Speaker 2: if it's like. 108 00:06:11,720 --> 00:06:14,440 Speaker 4: I don't know, maybe it's not immediate firing, but it's 109 00:06:14,480 --> 00:06:15,400 Speaker 4: like you really. 110 00:06:15,120 --> 00:06:19,520 Speaker 2: Got to like conversation and then maybe yes yeah. Yeah. 111 00:06:19,560 --> 00:06:23,160 Speaker 1: It's like like, is there is there improvement after it 112 00:06:23,240 --> 00:06:24,000 Speaker 1: being talked about? 113 00:06:24,400 --> 00:06:27,560 Speaker 4: Was she truly just like so completely unaware She's like, 114 00:06:27,640 --> 00:06:29,400 Speaker 4: oh my gosh, it's never gonna happen again. And then 115 00:06:29,400 --> 00:06:31,560 Speaker 4: it's like smooth sailing and good stuff after that. 116 00:06:32,080 --> 00:06:35,520 Speaker 1: Okay, yeah, Sarah Landry says, this is why you don't 117 00:06:35,560 --> 00:06:37,880 Speaker 1: hire family. I think this is why you don't hire 118 00:06:38,000 --> 00:06:42,599 Speaker 1: family without having worked with them before. Like Sophia, I 119 00:06:42,760 --> 00:06:47,039 Speaker 1: worked with for like four years before she was more 120 00:06:47,080 --> 00:06:51,680 Speaker 1: officially with this podcast, so like I knew how she worked. 121 00:06:52,240 --> 00:06:58,040 Speaker 1: Oh Carol Castle fifty three sixty three, thirty more minutes. 122 00:06:58,120 --> 00:07:00,520 Speaker 2: We're close. So we're close. Close. 123 00:07:01,520 --> 00:07:06,280 Speaker 4: Oh wait oh eight? 124 00:07:07,360 --> 00:07:08,160 Speaker 2: See. 125 00:07:09,320 --> 00:07:12,520 Speaker 1: So like I think it's not that you don't hire family, 126 00:07:12,560 --> 00:07:16,120 Speaker 1: but if you hire family, you should know really like 127 00:07:16,200 --> 00:07:18,560 Speaker 1: how they how they work, so you don't run into this, 128 00:07:18,720 --> 00:07:21,680 Speaker 1: you know, because it's like it can it can have 129 00:07:21,760 --> 00:07:25,760 Speaker 1: negative consequences. But also think of all the family businesses 130 00:07:25,800 --> 00:07:27,880 Speaker 1: that are out there, Like it's like a there are many. 131 00:07:27,920 --> 00:07:32,160 Speaker 1: It's like a thing as old as time. But realizing 132 00:07:32,240 --> 00:07:35,560 Speaker 1: that this was jeopardizing not only my reputation but also 133 00:07:36,080 --> 00:07:40,280 Speaker 1: the company's culture, I made the difficult decision to terminate 134 00:07:40,360 --> 00:07:46,440 Speaker 1: her employment for breaching confidentiality and unprofessional conduct, which I 135 00:07:46,440 --> 00:07:51,360 Speaker 1: think is oh is fair. She was furious, accusing me 136 00:07:51,600 --> 00:07:54,800 Speaker 1: of choosing workover family and vowing to never forgive me 137 00:07:55,400 --> 00:07:59,280 Speaker 1: our parents are now involved and believe I oops. Our 138 00:07:59,320 --> 00:08:01,400 Speaker 1: parents are now there. 139 00:08:01,400 --> 00:08:01,760 Speaker 2: You go. 140 00:08:06,600 --> 00:08:14,640 Speaker 6: Auh right another thirty minutes, A let's freaking go, Let's go. 141 00:08:15,200 --> 00:08:15,800 Speaker 4: Who was it? 142 00:08:16,240 --> 00:08:17,040 Speaker 2: Who is it? It was? 143 00:08:17,080 --> 00:08:17,280 Speaker 3: It was? 144 00:08:17,480 --> 00:08:20,480 Speaker 2: Uh oh? 145 00:08:20,600 --> 00:08:25,320 Speaker 1: Josie s thanks for the twenty five dollars tip, Let's 146 00:08:25,360 --> 00:08:28,760 Speaker 1: go right, a line, right on the line and tiplink 147 00:08:28,800 --> 00:08:32,360 Speaker 1: no last. We appreciate you. Kimberly Fine, thank you for 148 00:08:32,480 --> 00:08:36,720 Speaker 1: the twenty dollars, super chat Ope and Susan Swinson, thanks 149 00:08:36,760 --> 00:08:39,800 Speaker 1: for being a member of the Nights. Natalia H. What 150 00:08:39,920 --> 00:08:41,920 Speaker 1: can I say? Love you guys and love the Okay 151 00:08:42,000 --> 00:08:45,680 Speaker 1: Familyanks for being a member six times over, Marlene Anthony 152 00:08:45,960 --> 00:08:47,880 Speaker 1: five times over. I love you guys so much. I 153 00:08:47,920 --> 00:08:49,720 Speaker 1: love the new additional people, but I always have a 154 00:08:49,720 --> 00:08:51,800 Speaker 1: soft spot for John and Sam episodes. 155 00:08:52,440 --> 00:08:56,080 Speaker 6: Appreciate it always hard for him, but she was. 156 00:08:56,679 --> 00:09:01,360 Speaker 1: She was furious, accusing me of choosing workover family and 157 00:09:01,440 --> 00:09:04,319 Speaker 1: vowing to never forgive me. Our parents are now involved 158 00:09:04,360 --> 00:09:07,280 Speaker 1: and believe I overreacted. They think I should have been 159 00:09:07,280 --> 00:09:11,200 Speaker 1: more understanding and given her another chance. The whole situation 160 00:09:11,559 --> 00:09:15,880 Speaker 1: has left me questioning myself. I feel guilty for firing her, 161 00:09:16,080 --> 00:09:18,880 Speaker 1: but also feel like I had to protect my company 162 00:09:19,200 --> 00:09:21,920 Speaker 1: and personal boundaries. So redda, am I the a hole 163 00:09:22,000 --> 00:09:25,880 Speaker 1: for firing my sister after she exposed our famili's darkest 164 00:09:25,920 --> 00:09:29,720 Speaker 1: secrets at work? There is an update. There is an update, 165 00:09:29,760 --> 00:09:33,000 Speaker 1: but really quick to chat. What do you think is 166 00:09:33,720 --> 00:09:39,240 Speaker 1: op the a hole? Yes or no? For uh firing 167 00:09:39,240 --> 00:09:39,600 Speaker 1: the sister. 168 00:09:39,840 --> 00:09:43,760 Speaker 4: I'm very curious if, like, obviously OPI knows her sister 169 00:09:43,840 --> 00:09:49,079 Speaker 4: well and was this something was there like more around 170 00:09:49,160 --> 00:09:52,840 Speaker 4: it that like OP didn't like explicitly spell out to 171 00:09:53,080 --> 00:09:55,079 Speaker 4: us about the sister's behavior. 172 00:09:55,200 --> 00:09:56,840 Speaker 1: Guy, this is something well, I mean, I guess like 173 00:09:56,920 --> 00:10:00,160 Speaker 1: OPI at the beginning said, yes, my sister's extroverted and 174 00:10:00,280 --> 00:10:03,320 Speaker 1: doesn't think before she speaks, Like this was a thing 175 00:10:03,400 --> 00:10:06,640 Speaker 1: that op knew, but once she was in a work 176 00:10:06,720 --> 00:10:11,400 Speaker 1: setting that not thinking before she speaks had really like 177 00:10:11,400 --> 00:10:16,960 Speaker 1: like have negative consequences. I think she talked about it 178 00:10:17,280 --> 00:10:19,679 Speaker 1: with her sister, and then the sister kept doing it, 179 00:10:20,160 --> 00:10:23,480 Speaker 1: and so it's like, yeah, that's the issue. It's like, yes, okay, 180 00:10:23,559 --> 00:10:26,600 Speaker 1: you can, you can make a mistake. Like something that 181 00:10:26,679 --> 00:10:30,120 Speaker 1: John and I always talk about is it's like if 182 00:10:30,120 --> 00:10:33,880 Speaker 1: someone's coachable within the company, that's way more important than 183 00:10:33,880 --> 00:10:37,720 Speaker 1: them being initially talented. Yes, Like people who are super 184 00:10:37,720 --> 00:10:40,480 Speaker 1: talented and not coachable are like very hard to work with. 185 00:10:40,720 --> 00:10:40,920 Speaker 4: Yes. 186 00:10:41,200 --> 00:10:44,320 Speaker 1: And I think with your with the sister, like she's 187 00:10:44,360 --> 00:10:47,240 Speaker 1: not taking these notes, well, she's not listening, Like it 188 00:10:47,320 --> 00:10:49,200 Speaker 1: is going to damage your company. 189 00:10:49,280 --> 00:10:51,680 Speaker 4: Yeah, the fact that she that there was I didn't 190 00:10:51,679 --> 00:10:53,960 Speaker 4: even realize there was already a conversation. There was a conversation, 191 00:10:53,960 --> 00:10:56,000 Speaker 4: conversation and then she did that because. 192 00:10:55,840 --> 00:10:59,000 Speaker 1: Her response to saying like oh, saying like, hey, you 193 00:10:59,040 --> 00:11:01,120 Speaker 1: really shouldn't be talking about our personal stuff is like, yeah, 194 00:11:01,320 --> 00:11:03,560 Speaker 1: oh you just think because you're CEO you can boss me. 195 00:11:03,840 --> 00:11:04,480 Speaker 4: Yeah that's right. 196 00:11:04,720 --> 00:11:07,480 Speaker 2: Yeah, dude, which I mean whack, like not the kind 197 00:11:07,480 --> 00:11:08,040 Speaker 2: of energy. 198 00:11:07,920 --> 00:11:10,320 Speaker 4: Dude, not not at all like what what one? That's 199 00:11:10,320 --> 00:11:12,880 Speaker 4: your sister, like even just out of respect for her 200 00:11:12,920 --> 00:11:15,680 Speaker 4: being your sister, but also too like giving you this 201 00:11:15,760 --> 00:11:17,160 Speaker 4: opportunity and like all this stuff. 202 00:11:17,160 --> 00:11:22,040 Speaker 7: It's like what exactly at least at least for that, 203 00:11:22,480 --> 00:11:26,160 Speaker 7: at least for that if not actually like like respecting 204 00:11:26,800 --> 00:11:30,439 Speaker 7: uh you know OPI and not wanting to cause all 205 00:11:30,480 --> 00:11:33,520 Speaker 7: this stuff and have have OPI have to deal with 206 00:11:33,559 --> 00:11:35,520 Speaker 7: all the stuff with the people working at her company. 207 00:11:35,600 --> 00:11:37,280 Speaker 2: Yeah, but it's like it's it is. 208 00:11:37,360 --> 00:11:40,680 Speaker 1: It can be a tricky balance working with with family 209 00:11:40,720 --> 00:11:43,480 Speaker 1: and or something that like you have to suss out, 210 00:11:43,679 --> 00:11:45,480 Speaker 1: you have to. I mean it's like John and I 211 00:11:45,480 --> 00:11:48,559 Speaker 1: have had conversations about this before. It's like it is, 212 00:11:49,000 --> 00:11:52,040 Speaker 1: it's uh, it can be done, but it is like 213 00:11:52,120 --> 00:11:54,679 Speaker 1: it it just has to be done slowly. It has 214 00:11:54,720 --> 00:11:57,760 Speaker 1: to be done with intention. It just has to make sense. 215 00:11:57,800 --> 00:12:00,240 Speaker 1: There has to be respect there. Yeah, and it just 216 00:12:00,240 --> 00:12:03,320 Speaker 1: sounds like that sister doesn't have any. And it seems 217 00:12:03,360 --> 00:12:06,720 Speaker 1: like most people said that OPI was not the a 218 00:12:06,840 --> 00:12:11,800 Speaker 1: hole for uh uh firing the sister. 219 00:12:11,760 --> 00:12:16,200 Speaker 4: And I think like OPI did mention like, oh, it 220 00:12:16,480 --> 00:12:20,760 Speaker 4: was in breach of like confidentiality and stuff like that. 221 00:12:20,840 --> 00:12:23,880 Speaker 4: So it's like if it was any other like if 222 00:12:23,880 --> 00:12:26,400 Speaker 4: some employee like somehow found out about this, suff it's 223 00:12:26,440 --> 00:12:28,839 Speaker 4: just started like blabbing about it to everyone else. 224 00:12:29,080 --> 00:12:33,240 Speaker 1: Although I feel like this confidentiality is not usually what 225 00:12:33,559 --> 00:12:35,280 Speaker 1: a company means by confidentiality. 226 00:12:35,320 --> 00:12:39,520 Speaker 4: Yeah, because also this is like she's this is also 227 00:12:39,600 --> 00:12:44,640 Speaker 4: her experience, the sister's experience too, So it's like, yeah, 228 00:12:44,880 --> 00:12:49,000 Speaker 4: she told your secret or whatever, but also by telling 229 00:12:49,000 --> 00:12:50,480 Speaker 4: her own Yeah, so it's so kind of. 230 00:12:50,520 --> 00:12:54,319 Speaker 1: But also like confidentiality clauses are like for company secrets, 231 00:12:54,360 --> 00:12:58,439 Speaker 1: not for familial Yeah, usually unless there's a familial confidentiality 232 00:12:58,480 --> 00:13:00,520 Speaker 1: agreement in the contract, which I out there. 233 00:13:00,559 --> 00:13:00,800 Speaker 5: I was. 234 00:13:01,480 --> 00:13:03,120 Speaker 4: I was kind of interpreting it as like kind of 235 00:13:03,120 --> 00:13:05,160 Speaker 4: a crazy contract, to be honest, because it's just like 236 00:13:05,880 --> 00:13:08,040 Speaker 4: if you say something super well, well, I guess if 237 00:13:08,040 --> 00:13:12,160 Speaker 4: you like, like if you say, oh, another employee sleeping around, 238 00:13:12,320 --> 00:13:15,439 Speaker 4: then it's like taking personal details in their life too. Yeah, yes, 239 00:13:15,520 --> 00:13:16,839 Speaker 4: that's true, harassed them or something. 240 00:13:16,880 --> 00:13:19,920 Speaker 1: I don't know, but Shianna Taylor says, not the a 241 00:13:20,000 --> 00:13:23,200 Speaker 1: whole opie is entitled to privacy in the workplace. Someone's 242 00:13:23,600 --> 00:13:26,280 Speaker 1: personal life should not be gossiped about at work. Sister 243 00:13:26,320 --> 00:13:28,800 Speaker 1: is the a hole for being entitled. She had the 244 00:13:28,800 --> 00:13:31,920 Speaker 1: audacity to ruin the opportunity. 245 00:13:31,440 --> 00:13:33,680 Speaker 4: To work and too, I think like we have such 246 00:13:33,679 --> 00:13:37,120 Speaker 4: a warped perspection perspective of like the workplace now because 247 00:13:37,120 --> 00:13:41,600 Speaker 4: like we are like a content company, but like a 248 00:13:41,960 --> 00:13:46,480 Speaker 4: like more normal traditional tech like more corporate like it's 249 00:13:46,600 --> 00:13:48,480 Speaker 4: it's it's even worse, even worse. 250 00:13:48,559 --> 00:13:49,280 Speaker 2: It's so much worse. 251 00:13:49,320 --> 00:13:53,160 Speaker 1: I feel like you know, like like within within this 252 00:13:53,800 --> 00:13:55,760 Speaker 1: like like at our company, we all live together. 253 00:13:56,000 --> 00:13:58,960 Speaker 4: Yeah, all friends. Such a such a different dynamic. 254 00:13:59,040 --> 00:14:02,400 Speaker 1: It's such a different dynam so but also like it 255 00:14:02,880 --> 00:14:08,000 Speaker 1: a company culture is different for every company, It's true, 256 00:14:08,120 --> 00:14:11,760 Speaker 1: and so like at some at some companies, like making 257 00:14:11,800 --> 00:14:15,120 Speaker 1: your producer dress up in a French made costume would 258 00:14:15,160 --> 00:14:18,760 Speaker 1: not be okay, But in the companies it is totally okay. 259 00:14:18,880 --> 00:14:23,600 Speaker 4: It's actually like highly encouraged. It's highly encouraged, highly rewarded, mandatory. 260 00:14:23,920 --> 00:14:26,840 Speaker 1: Might even yeah, yeah, like like dude, this when we 261 00:14:26,920 --> 00:14:30,760 Speaker 1: have our expose a piece, cancel it. They're gonna take 262 00:14:30,800 --> 00:14:34,520 Speaker 1: this clip and they're gonna they're gonna get us with it. 263 00:14:34,640 --> 00:14:37,520 Speaker 6: I'm gonna come for whoever suggested that I will find 264 00:14:37,560 --> 00:14:43,360 Speaker 6: you at least like I don't know, like a farmer's 265 00:14:43,440 --> 00:14:46,480 Speaker 6: outfit with no just like you think. 266 00:14:46,360 --> 00:14:48,520 Speaker 4: They're gonna give you something you'll like, Riley. 267 00:14:50,160 --> 00:14:53,800 Speaker 1: That's just that's just Wednesday attire what you're talking about. 268 00:14:56,160 --> 00:14:59,560 Speaker 1: But we have an update. I reached out to a 269 00:14:59,560 --> 00:15:01,520 Speaker 1: friend who's still works at the company where my sister 270 00:15:01,600 --> 00:15:06,040 Speaker 1: was previously employed. He confirmed that she was indeed fired, 271 00:15:06,800 --> 00:15:09,880 Speaker 1: but not because of the downsizing she mentioned. According to him, 272 00:15:09,960 --> 00:15:13,520 Speaker 1: she had a knack for orchestrating gossip and creating conflicts 273 00:15:13,560 --> 00:15:17,080 Speaker 1: among workers. She would spread rumors and star up drama, 274 00:15:17,280 --> 00:15:20,880 Speaker 1: which led to a toxic work environment and decreased team morale. 275 00:15:21,200 --> 00:15:24,560 Speaker 1: Her behavior was disruptive enough that the company decided to 276 00:15:24,640 --> 00:15:27,840 Speaker 1: let her go to preserve the integrity and productivity of 277 00:15:27,880 --> 00:15:31,440 Speaker 1: the workplace. Wow, hearing this from someone who was there 278 00:15:31,640 --> 00:15:36,240 Speaker 1: really reinforces my decision to terminate her employment at my company. 279 00:15:36,520 --> 00:15:40,640 Speaker 1: It seemed her pattern of behavior has consistently caused problems 280 00:15:40,640 --> 00:15:43,240 Speaker 1: wherever she goes, and I had to prioritize well being 281 00:15:43,240 --> 00:15:46,040 Speaker 1: of my team. So thank you for the continued support 282 00:15:46,240 --> 00:15:51,040 Speaker 1: and understanding as I navigate this difficult situation. And there 283 00:15:51,080 --> 00:15:54,120 Speaker 1: is a second update. Oh right, I mean I feel 284 00:15:54,120 --> 00:15:58,000 Speaker 1: like that's enough. Yeah, honestly to like to feel good 285 00:15:58,080 --> 00:16:00,640 Speaker 1: that you did the right thing in and if you 286 00:16:00,680 --> 00:16:01,920 Speaker 1: look at if you looked. 287 00:16:01,720 --> 00:16:03,320 Speaker 4: At like any other employee, it's like, oh, they're going 288 00:16:03,400 --> 00:16:04,200 Speaker 4: to cause a disruption. 289 00:16:04,720 --> 00:16:07,120 Speaker 1: Yeah yeah, I mean, like, if someone's causing a disruption 290 00:16:07,160 --> 00:16:09,960 Speaker 1: the workplace, you let them go, get get them. Yeah, 291 00:16:10,040 --> 00:16:13,520 Speaker 1: especially you know, like honestly that like this kind of 292 00:16:13,520 --> 00:16:16,600 Speaker 1: disruption too. But like imagine if they're just like looking 293 00:16:16,720 --> 00:16:20,600 Speaker 1: so good at a French made costume. But they distract everyone. 294 00:16:20,800 --> 00:16:24,160 Speaker 1: I mean they distract everyone in the workplace. Nothing gets done, nothing, 295 00:16:24,280 --> 00:16:27,640 Speaker 1: nothing gets like that would be that would be ship 296 00:16:27,680 --> 00:16:33,320 Speaker 1: them out in a couch box offense or I'd love it, honestly. 297 00:16:33,200 --> 00:16:36,560 Speaker 2: Maybe maybe it's just maybe. 298 00:16:38,360 --> 00:16:39,000 Speaker 4: Tough scenario. 299 00:16:39,120 --> 00:16:40,720 Speaker 2: It would be. It would be really hard. 300 00:16:40,800 --> 00:16:44,920 Speaker 6: Okay, okay, okay, like me chip in a French costume. 301 00:16:45,880 --> 00:16:51,800 Speaker 4: No Christian No closer, well, closer, closer, but but not. 302 00:16:53,160 --> 00:16:53,560 Speaker 2: It's you. 303 00:16:53,920 --> 00:16:55,280 Speaker 4: It's you. We want to talk it to you. 304 00:16:55,520 --> 00:16:55,840 Speaker 2: It's you. 305 00:16:56,800 --> 00:16:58,280 Speaker 1: I mean, do you think about we do have a 306 00:16:59,240 --> 00:17:01,840 Speaker 1: birthday activity coming up? Oh my god, that would be 307 00:17:01,880 --> 00:17:05,720 Speaker 1: perfect for that. I can't wear a made outfit on 308 00:17:05,880 --> 00:17:09,400 Speaker 1: my birthday. Everyone else your birthday? Where are we going? 309 00:17:10,760 --> 00:17:11,240 Speaker 6: Where we go? 310 00:17:11,400 --> 00:17:16,520 Speaker 4: Oh my goodness, Oh my see, we would do it 311 00:17:16,560 --> 00:17:16,800 Speaker 4: with you. 312 00:17:17,200 --> 00:17:20,040 Speaker 1: I actually totally would do that with you. Oh that 313 00:17:20,080 --> 00:17:21,240 Speaker 1: would actually be pretty. 314 00:17:21,840 --> 00:17:23,760 Speaker 6: She would love that. She would love that. 315 00:17:23,760 --> 00:17:24,640 Speaker 2: That would be pretty fun. 316 00:17:24,840 --> 00:17:25,400 Speaker 4: I'd do it. 317 00:17:25,720 --> 00:17:27,440 Speaker 1: I would do it. I would do with you. Oh 318 00:17:27,520 --> 00:17:32,320 Speaker 1: my god, dude, matching French made outfits for all of us, 319 00:17:32,440 --> 00:17:36,480 Speaker 1: triple that would be trouble. Well, No, Sophia, I mean 320 00:17:36,480 --> 00:17:37,640 Speaker 1: Sophia too, were like the. 321 00:17:37,600 --> 00:17:40,600 Speaker 4: Whole but it's like, yeah, it's it's it's more cool 322 00:17:40,640 --> 00:17:41,000 Speaker 4: on us. 323 00:17:41,280 --> 00:17:45,439 Speaker 6: What do French made pimps look like? That's what I'll be. 324 00:17:46,240 --> 00:17:49,080 Speaker 1: No, you don't get to belly, That's what I'm imagining. 325 00:17:50,720 --> 00:17:52,520 Speaker 4: Yeah, that's actually pretty. 326 00:17:52,560 --> 00:17:57,840 Speaker 1: But we got a second update, so I spoke to 327 00:17:57,880 --> 00:18:01,720 Speaker 1: my parents about her actions. So, hi, everyone, I wanted 328 00:18:01,720 --> 00:18:04,040 Speaker 1: to share an update on the situation with my sister. 329 00:18:04,440 --> 00:18:08,280 Speaker 1: I recently had a detailed conversation with my parents about 330 00:18:08,280 --> 00:18:11,879 Speaker 1: the rumors she was spreading at work, especially regarding her 331 00:18:11,920 --> 00:18:17,159 Speaker 1: substance abuse and our parents' divorce. I explained how her 332 00:18:17,200 --> 00:18:21,800 Speaker 1: behavior was disrupting the workplace and shared these specific complaints 333 00:18:22,000 --> 00:18:25,840 Speaker 1: from employees who felt uncomfortable. Additionally, I informed them about 334 00:18:25,840 --> 00:18:28,479 Speaker 1: what a friend who still works at her previous company 335 00:18:28,480 --> 00:18:33,280 Speaker 1: told me that she was fired for orchestrating gossip and 336 00:18:33,320 --> 00:18:38,280 Speaker 1: creating conflict among coworkers. My parents are now very angry 337 00:18:38,280 --> 00:18:41,399 Speaker 1: with her for sharing our family's private matters and for 338 00:18:41,520 --> 00:18:45,000 Speaker 1: causing turmoil in my company. They also apologized to me 339 00:18:45,440 --> 00:18:48,359 Speaker 1: for not recognizing the severity of her actions sooner, and 340 00:18:48,520 --> 00:18:51,879 Speaker 1: for any additional stress that has been caused to our family. 341 00:18:52,080 --> 00:18:54,639 Speaker 1: Great I at least the family is like finally susten up. 342 00:18:54,760 --> 00:18:55,159 Speaker 3: Yeah right. 343 00:18:55,480 --> 00:18:58,320 Speaker 1: Having their support has been a huge relief and reinforces 344 00:18:58,359 --> 00:19:00,439 Speaker 1: that I made the right decision to prietori ide to 345 00:19:00,520 --> 00:19:03,600 Speaker 1: prioritize my business and my team. Thank you all for 346 00:19:03,640 --> 00:19:06,919 Speaker 1: your continued support and understanding during this difficult time. This 347 00:19:07,000 --> 00:19:09,359 Speaker 1: sounds like something that people say, like a corporate person 348 00:19:09,440 --> 00:19:12,159 Speaker 1: says when they have a family member that dies. Y. 349 00:19:12,400 --> 00:19:14,520 Speaker 1: Thank you for your love and support during this difficult time. 350 00:19:14,920 --> 00:19:17,600 Speaker 1: I'll be out of office from Tuesday to Wednesday. 351 00:19:17,880 --> 00:19:20,359 Speaker 4: I know that this has been hard on everyone. 352 00:19:21,320 --> 00:19:23,399 Speaker 2: We'll get this together, go team. 353 00:19:23,960 --> 00:19:26,800 Speaker 1: But we got some relevant comments, So shy fidelity says, 354 00:19:26,920 --> 00:19:30,920 Speaker 1: whenden't firing someone for breach of confidentiality usually entail the 355 00:19:30,960 --> 00:19:33,879 Speaker 1: employee leaking propriety of secrets and not like stories from 356 00:19:33,920 --> 00:19:37,320 Speaker 1: her own childhood, which is what we said, yes, and 357 00:19:37,640 --> 00:19:41,680 Speaker 1: Reddit or influencer, which is op response and said that's 358 00:19:41,720 --> 00:19:46,399 Speaker 1: a valid question. While breach of confidentiality in a corporate 359 00:19:46,480 --> 00:19:49,919 Speaker 1: sense usually refers to proprietary or sensitive company information, in 360 00:19:49,920 --> 00:19:53,400 Speaker 1: this case I used it to refer to personal confidentiality. 361 00:19:53,560 --> 00:19:56,160 Speaker 1: The story she shared weren't just about her own experiences. 362 00:19:56,400 --> 00:20:00,800 Speaker 1: They involved deeply personal aspects of our family's history, including 363 00:20:00,840 --> 00:20:03,879 Speaker 1: information about our parents and incidents that affected us. 364 00:20:03,880 --> 00:20:04,080 Speaker 2: All. 365 00:20:04,280 --> 00:20:06,800 Speaker 1: Sharing these details in the workplace not only violated by 366 00:20:06,800 --> 00:20:11,280 Speaker 1: personal security, but also disrupted the professional environment. It blurred 367 00:20:11,440 --> 00:20:16,440 Speaker 1: the lines between personal and professional boundaries, which is crucial 368 00:20:16,520 --> 00:20:19,520 Speaker 1: in a leadership role. I felt that her actions constituted 369 00:20:19,840 --> 00:20:23,880 Speaker 1: unprofessional behavior that impacted the company culture, and I had 370 00:20:23,920 --> 00:20:30,960 Speaker 1: to address it accordingly. Content Potential refutes this claim. It says, 371 00:20:30,960 --> 00:20:33,399 Speaker 1: we're gonna, We're gonna an Opie responds, here we go. 372 00:20:33,480 --> 00:20:35,920 Speaker 1: I feel like we're getting getting a little little tiff. 373 00:20:36,000 --> 00:20:40,320 Speaker 1: In the comments, it says, it's cute that you redefine 374 00:20:40,320 --> 00:20:43,520 Speaker 1: the phrase breach of confidentiality and used your new definition 375 00:20:43,720 --> 00:20:46,600 Speaker 1: of ground as grounds for termination. But the reason these 376 00:20:46,680 --> 00:20:49,480 Speaker 1: terms exist is because they have a legal meaning in 377 00:20:49,600 --> 00:20:52,520 Speaker 1: employment law. When you use that to justify firing her, 378 00:20:52,640 --> 00:20:56,160 Speaker 1: you gave her grounds to sue you, which I think 379 00:20:56,240 --> 00:20:56,720 Speaker 1: is true. 380 00:20:56,840 --> 00:20:59,320 Speaker 4: I feel like, yeah, yeah. 381 00:20:58,880 --> 00:21:01,480 Speaker 1: Because based on what you said, she did not breach 382 00:21:01,520 --> 00:21:05,639 Speaker 1: confidentiality under the law, she may not choose to sue you, 383 00:21:05,720 --> 00:21:07,879 Speaker 1: but it but let it be a lesson either be 384 00:21:08,040 --> 00:21:11,040 Speaker 1: very careful and what explanation you give to a terminated 385 00:21:11,080 --> 00:21:14,440 Speaker 1: employee or don't give one at all. 386 00:21:15,359 --> 00:21:16,160 Speaker 2: That is true. 387 00:21:16,320 --> 00:21:22,359 Speaker 1: That is true, and Ope responds, I appreciate you sharing 388 00:21:22,400 --> 00:21:23,080 Speaker 1: your perspective. 389 00:21:23,160 --> 00:21:24,399 Speaker 2: This is so corporate speak. 390 00:21:24,720 --> 00:21:29,399 Speaker 1: This is the most corporate like, dude, OPI is I 391 00:21:29,480 --> 00:21:32,760 Speaker 1: hate those emails? Yeah, I appreciate your perspective, but like, 392 00:21:33,119 --> 00:21:36,120 Speaker 1: but but I'm about to tear into your footy. No, 393 00:21:36,400 --> 00:21:40,679 Speaker 1: but I respectfully disagree. While breach of confidentiality typically refers 394 00:21:40,680 --> 00:21:43,240 Speaker 1: to a company sensitive information, in this situation, my sister 395 00:21:43,320 --> 00:21:45,960 Speaker 1: was sharing deeply personal family matters that were never intended 396 00:21:46,000 --> 00:21:48,600 Speaker 1: to be public knowledge. Her disclosures not only invaded our 397 00:21:48,600 --> 00:21:53,080 Speaker 1: family's privacy, but also disrupted the professional environment and create 398 00:21:53,119 --> 00:21:54,160 Speaker 1: attention among employees. 399 00:21:54,160 --> 00:21:55,199 Speaker 2: I don't think Ope's getting it. 400 00:21:55,400 --> 00:21:59,560 Speaker 4: Hey, Op, stop giving your Reddit account to your PR team. 401 00:21:59,760 --> 00:22:04,959 Speaker 1: Yeah, dude, this goes beyond standard confidentiality breaches and directly 402 00:22:05,000 --> 00:22:08,800 Speaker 1: impacted the workplace culture and productivity. I don't know if 403 00:22:08,800 --> 00:22:13,720 Speaker 1: that will hold up an employment court. Yeah, but you 404 00:22:13,720 --> 00:22:15,399 Speaker 1: know what always holds up is the fact that we 405 00:22:15,440 --> 00:22:18,359 Speaker 1: go live every weekday three pm PSD right here on YouTube. 406 00:22:18,400 --> 00:22:21,280 Speaker 1: If you're over on Facebook, freakin' subscribe to her YouTube 407 00:22:21,320 --> 00:22:22,399 Speaker 1: so you can get notifications. 408 00:22:22,440 --> 00:22:25,880 Speaker 2: If you haven't hit the bell icon, hit the bell icon? 409 00:22:25,920 --> 00:22:26,840 Speaker 4: What are you doing so you. 410 00:22:26,760 --> 00:22:29,359 Speaker 2: Can ensure you know when we go live? 411 00:22:30,840 --> 00:22:32,919 Speaker 1: Also, what else can they do? They can like the stream, 412 00:22:32,960 --> 00:22:34,760 Speaker 1: they can We're gonna spin that wheel. 413 00:22:35,680 --> 00:22:37,720 Speaker 4: Absolutely, so many things to. 414 00:22:37,680 --> 00:22:40,480 Speaker 2: Do, so many things to do, so little time to 415 00:22:40,560 --> 00:22:40,879 Speaker 2: do it. 416 00:22:41,520 --> 00:22:44,720 Speaker 4: Alyssa says, thanks for the two buck donation. The commenter 417 00:22:44,840 --> 00:22:45,439 Speaker 4: was her sister. 418 00:22:46,480 --> 00:22:49,480 Speaker 2: The commenter was my sister? Was her sister? 419 00:22:49,640 --> 00:22:52,200 Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, Yeah, that's fun, like like basically be like, hey, 420 00:22:52,480 --> 00:22:58,160 Speaker 4: you know she can see you and it's actually me gotcha? 421 00:22:58,400 --> 00:23:01,440 Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean I could. I could totally see that. Yeah, 422 00:23:01,520 --> 00:23:02,639 Speaker 1: I could totally see that. 423 00:23:02,720 --> 00:23:04,840 Speaker 4: But no, I think like if this was like a 424 00:23:04,840 --> 00:23:08,160 Speaker 4: different scenario, like I could see like if it wasn't 425 00:23:08,160 --> 00:23:11,919 Speaker 4: the Honestly, I wonder if because OPI has like the 426 00:23:12,000 --> 00:23:14,600 Speaker 4: shared Yeah this is kind of this, I feel like 427 00:23:14,640 --> 00:23:15,800 Speaker 4: this could be like a case. 428 00:23:16,280 --> 00:23:17,560 Speaker 2: It totally could be a case. 429 00:23:17,600 --> 00:23:20,879 Speaker 1: And also, if your sister finds this Reddit post, it 430 00:23:20,960 --> 00:23:23,320 Speaker 1: could be used as evidence. 431 00:23:23,880 --> 00:23:26,480 Speaker 4: Okay, story time in the court. 432 00:23:26,480 --> 00:23:29,560 Speaker 1: In the courts, uh oh okay, story time. 433 00:23:29,960 --> 00:23:33,199 Speaker 4: Criminal investigation judges Sam and John are two judges that 434 00:23:33,240 --> 00:23:34,600 Speaker 4: don't live by the rules. 435 00:23:35,119 --> 00:23:37,199 Speaker 1: There are two judges that know how to make a 436 00:23:37,240 --> 00:23:41,720 Speaker 1: city abide by the law. 437 00:23:40,880 --> 00:23:45,800 Speaker 6: And they have sex together. 438 00:23:46,119 --> 00:23:49,400 Speaker 1: The only law they break is the love of their 439 00:23:49,480 --> 00:23:55,600 Speaker 1: own body. Oh God, every nook and cranny will be uncovered, 440 00:23:55,720 --> 00:23:57,360 Speaker 1: just like every nook and cranny of the case will 441 00:23:57,359 --> 00:23:58,000 Speaker 1: be exploded. 442 00:23:58,880 --> 00:24:00,760 Speaker 4: The law wasn't the only thing broken tonight. 443 00:24:01,080 --> 00:24:04,080 Speaker 2: Yeah, booties, we're broken. In facts, We're broken. 444 00:24:04,960 --> 00:24:08,840 Speaker 4: Blow it out relevant death rage. Thanks for a five 445 00:24:08,840 --> 00:24:11,120 Speaker 4: bucks tip on the donal link. Don't have the most 446 00:24:11,160 --> 00:24:13,639 Speaker 4: money on me, but I hope to see y'all for 447 00:24:13,680 --> 00:24:17,760 Speaker 4: another thirty minutes. Well, hey, we appreciate it. I listen. Mondy, 448 00:24:17,760 --> 00:24:19,240 Speaker 4: thanks for the two box. Do you guys have a 449 00:24:19,280 --> 00:24:21,320 Speaker 4: po box of received gifts? Do we have that auto 450 00:24:21,320 --> 00:24:25,359 Speaker 4: commenting bottom of jig Yep? It should be in the chat. 451 00:24:25,640 --> 00:24:27,960 Speaker 4: Maybe I could throw it in even earlier if possible. 452 00:24:28,320 --> 00:24:30,600 Speaker 4: Does you have a dollar bequist? Have to go now? 453 00:24:30,720 --> 00:24:33,119 Speaker 4: Talxic people in the chat love y'all hard. 454 00:24:33,600 --> 00:24:34,520 Speaker 2: Who's being toxic? 455 00:24:34,600 --> 00:24:36,040 Speaker 4: They're actual toxic people. 456 00:24:36,160 --> 00:24:39,440 Speaker 2: Who's being toxic? Who's who's being toxic? 457 00:24:40,160 --> 00:24:40,600 Speaker 4: Tell us? 458 00:24:40,760 --> 00:24:41,080 Speaker 2: Tell it? 459 00:24:41,280 --> 00:24:46,960 Speaker 1: Like, tell on them right now, right now. Josephine, know 460 00:24:47,080 --> 00:24:50,639 Speaker 1: that we love you and just don't listen to anyone 461 00:24:50,640 --> 00:24:54,600 Speaker 1: in the chat. Okay, because yeah, that's annoying. They'll be mean. 462 00:24:54,800 --> 00:24:55,240 Speaker 2: Be nice. 463 00:24:55,240 --> 00:24:57,119 Speaker 1: This is a good community here. Don't ruin it with 464 00:24:57,200 --> 00:24:58,640 Speaker 1: your your butt holary. 465 00:24:58,800 --> 00:25:02,439 Speaker 4: That's right, a holes for Reddit, Go to Reddit, that's right, 466 00:25:02,480 --> 00:25:05,760 Speaker 4: save it for over there. This is the community of love. 467 00:25:06,400 --> 00:25:09,719 Speaker 4: Speaking of which, Oscar celebrating pharmas and membership. Happy three years. 468 00:25:09,880 --> 00:25:13,600 Speaker 4: Thanks for making my commutes better. You're welcome. Kaitlyn von Camping, 469 00:25:14,119 --> 00:25:18,800 Speaker 4: thanks for the sixth ninety one even no man, thanks 470 00:25:18,800 --> 00:25:21,440 Speaker 4: for joining the Knights, and then Caitlyn von Camping again 471 00:25:21,720 --> 00:25:25,320 Speaker 4: with seven thirty six even one more try. Happy happy 472 00:25:25,320 --> 00:25:29,440 Speaker 4: birthday guys, thank you, vam Bibay. Thanks for the twenty 473 00:25:29,480 --> 00:25:31,760 Speaker 4: four bucks on the Dono link dude. 474 00:25:31,880 --> 00:25:34,840 Speaker 1: Shout out to the Dono link people, because again, dono 475 00:25:34,960 --> 00:25:37,160 Speaker 1: link YouTube doesn't take thirty percent. 476 00:25:36,960 --> 00:25:37,800 Speaker 2: Right, it's big. 477 00:25:38,359 --> 00:25:41,280 Speaker 4: Wishing Riley a happy early birthday. I turned twenty four 478 00:25:41,840 --> 00:25:46,600 Speaker 4: on the twenty third, two birthday twins tipping twenty four 479 00:25:46,640 --> 00:25:48,640 Speaker 4: dollars in celebration of twenty four years. 480 00:25:48,760 --> 00:25:50,600 Speaker 6: Dude, that's a birthday twin for real, for real? 481 00:25:50,680 --> 00:25:53,959 Speaker 4: What's up? Dude? Heck you let's go. Oh it's a Monday. 482 00:25:54,040 --> 00:25:57,680 Speaker 4: Thanks for gifting a membership, and then Sebastian Sausting for 483 00:25:57,720 --> 00:26:01,280 Speaker 4: the twenty three fifty three donation. Let's go, and then 484 00:26:01,280 --> 00:26:04,840 Speaker 4: Alessa Monday again thanks for the two box the commentaries 485 00:26:04,920 --> 00:26:06,359 Speaker 4: or sister, maybe that's. 486 00:26:06,240 --> 00:26:07,800 Speaker 2: What we were thinking. That's what we were thinking. 487 00:26:08,160 --> 00:26:10,040 Speaker 4: And then Billy Claire thanks for the one thirty four 488 00:26:10,520 --> 00:26:15,520 Speaker 4: as per my previous email energy, yep, yeah, that's what 489 00:26:15,560 --> 00:26:19,159 Speaker 4: it was giving that corporate be a human. 490 00:26:19,119 --> 00:26:22,960 Speaker 6: Double checking the donus here, make sure no one we're good. 491 00:26:23,320 --> 00:26:26,040 Speaker 4: Dang everything ready, they're finishing up. 492 00:26:26,040 --> 00:26:27,680 Speaker 6: I'm gonna go check on one more time. I'll be 493 00:26:27,760 --> 00:26:28,080 Speaker 6: right back. 494 00:26:28,240 --> 00:26:31,439 Speaker 2: Cool. We should we do one more story? 495 00:26:31,760 --> 00:26:32,520 Speaker 4: Let's door. 496 00:26:35,119 --> 00:26:36,400 Speaker 2: I went to the next episode. 497 00:26:36,920 --> 00:26:37,720 Speaker 4: Next episode. 498 00:26:38,200 --> 00:26:41,160 Speaker 1: Yeah, shout out to the mods. By the way, due Justine, 499 00:26:41,200 --> 00:26:42,800 Speaker 1: sorry that you had to leave. 500 00:26:43,040 --> 00:26:49,239 Speaker 4: Yeah, oh good. Where are we at? Or can I 501 00:26:49,240 --> 00:26:49,960 Speaker 4: pick well? 502 00:26:51,240 --> 00:26:52,480 Speaker 2: In stick Gang. 503 00:26:52,600 --> 00:26:55,200 Speaker 1: Someone is gonna make an a I T A story 504 00:26:55,240 --> 00:26:57,840 Speaker 1: one for the reddit, they said in the chat today, 505 00:26:57,960 --> 00:26:59,840 Speaker 1: and then you will read the A T A story 506 00:26:59,840 --> 00:27:01,639 Speaker 1: and an episode and the whole thing will go force 507 00:27:01,680 --> 00:27:02,000 Speaker 1: our call. 508 00:27:02,480 --> 00:27:04,320 Speaker 6: Oh wait, we can spin the wheelow. 509 00:27:06,200 --> 00:27:08,159 Speaker 4: Spinning wheeling. Let's do it. 510 00:27:08,240 --> 00:27:11,880 Speaker 6: So if you should be coming soon, okay, here we go. 511 00:27:13,880 --> 00:27:15,080 Speaker 2: Spend that wheel. 512 00:27:17,320 --> 00:27:20,600 Speaker 6: Switch switch switch what switch yourself? 513 00:27:21,560 --> 00:27:23,600 Speaker 2: Switch as in switch yourselves? 514 00:27:23,960 --> 00:27:24,560 Speaker 4: Who's gonna be? 515 00:27:24,560 --> 00:27:24,760 Speaker 2: Who? 516 00:27:28,119 --> 00:27:30,960 Speaker 4: Do you want to play this game again? Do we 517 00:27:31,040 --> 00:27:31,479 Speaker 4: want to go? 518 00:27:31,560 --> 00:27:31,800 Speaker 3: There? 519 00:27:32,400 --> 00:27:34,200 Speaker 4: I'm ready go? 520 00:27:34,320 --> 00:27:44,840 Speaker 2: Where Where are my keys? Keys? 521 00:27:44,920 --> 00:27:45,760 Speaker 4: Again? 522 00:27:46,600 --> 00:27:54,480 Speaker 2: They have a drub on it? Drop my keys and 523 00:27:54,640 --> 00:27:58,359 Speaker 2: I can't pick them up, so. 524 00:28:01,280 --> 00:28:03,359 Speaker 4: I don't know if it's my turn. I gotta take 525 00:28:03,359 --> 00:28:06,720 Speaker 4: an ex bath. What here we go? Wait? I'm reading 526 00:28:06,760 --> 00:28:07,960 Speaker 4: a story. Are you ready? 527 00:28:10,359 --> 00:28:10,560 Speaker 2: Look? 528 00:28:10,600 --> 00:28:11,159 Speaker 4: Go Riley? 529 00:28:11,240 --> 00:28:11,359 Speaker 3: Right? 530 00:28:11,560 --> 00:28:11,639 Speaker 8: Ye? 531 00:28:12,080 --> 00:28:14,840 Speaker 4: Right? Is it all right? Right ahead? 532 00:28:14,840 --> 00:28:15,640 Speaker 6: Go ahead, go ahead? 533 00:28:15,640 --> 00:28:16,120 Speaker 4: Tanks the chat. 534 00:28:16,160 --> 00:28:18,439 Speaker 6: Well, you guys, gotta like you, guys, gotta switch sides. 535 00:28:26,400 --> 00:28:27,800 Speaker 2: Money still work like the. 536 00:28:31,160 --> 00:28:31,400 Speaker 1: Man? 537 00:28:38,920 --> 00:28:41,080 Speaker 4: Oh no, oh no, I knocked it over in October. 538 00:28:41,080 --> 00:28:46,680 Speaker 4: It's okay, okay, here we go. All right, ready, okay, 539 00:28:46,720 --> 00:28:50,200 Speaker 4: let's do it. Here we go. My BOM's convinced I'm gay. Wow, 540 00:28:50,280 --> 00:28:52,840 Speaker 4: that makes sense. I keep telling him that I bet. 541 00:28:53,120 --> 00:28:55,080 Speaker 4: I keep telling him that I'm not, but he won't listen. 542 00:28:58,360 --> 00:29:01,400 Speaker 4: Loction New York. My boss keeps nominating me for a 543 00:29:01,440 --> 00:29:09,600 Speaker 4: gay professional award outside of our organization. God dang that stuff, dude. Rapeatedly, 544 00:29:09,640 --> 00:29:13,240 Speaker 4: even though I am not gay, I have expressed verbally 545 00:29:13,240 --> 00:29:14,920 Speaker 4: that I am not gay, and even if I were, 546 00:29:15,000 --> 00:29:18,080 Speaker 4: I would want to be recognized for our actual preferences. 547 00:29:18,120 --> 00:29:19,880 Speaker 4: That wouldn't be part of the job. It's just two 548 00:29:19,960 --> 00:29:21,640 Speaker 4: am you know. One time, when I was in college, 549 00:29:22,120 --> 00:29:25,120 Speaker 4: I had a very special intimate experience, but I'm not 550 00:29:25,120 --> 00:29:26,120 Speaker 4: gonna talk about that right now. 551 00:29:26,200 --> 00:29:27,680 Speaker 2: That is true. 552 00:29:28,200 --> 00:29:30,120 Speaker 4: Is there something I could legally do about this? It's 553 00:29:30,160 --> 00:29:33,000 Speaker 4: weird and frankly embarrassing, but I'm not cat But I'm 554 00:29:33,000 --> 00:29:36,240 Speaker 4: not certain that it's sextual harassment or legal issue. I've 555 00:29:36,240 --> 00:29:38,560 Speaker 4: had multiple direct conversations with my boss that consist of 556 00:29:38,600 --> 00:29:42,760 Speaker 4: something like, I'm not comfortable. You know, sometimes I get uncomfortable, Riley. 557 00:29:42,800 --> 00:29:45,000 Speaker 4: The other day, I was sitting in the ice path 558 00:29:45,040 --> 00:29:48,160 Speaker 4: and I was talking to Jack Gibt about philosophy, and 559 00:29:48,720 --> 00:29:53,160 Speaker 4: I was just that sounds bruent. I was burdened with 560 00:29:53,240 --> 00:29:57,800 Speaker 4: me the torment of humanity's questions, you know, and I 561 00:29:58,040 --> 00:30:03,320 Speaker 4: couldn't figure out what's the point of life, Riley, to 562 00:30:03,360 --> 00:30:08,400 Speaker 4: be silly. I'm not comfortable being Can you please knock 563 00:30:08,440 --> 00:30:09,680 Speaker 4: it off? Thanks to the mass. By the way, this 564 00:30:09,800 --> 00:30:11,720 Speaker 4: couch weird throw out. The best of bread is sun 565 00:30:11,800 --> 00:30:17,440 Speaker 4: read it. It's amazing. Before we get into these relevant comments, Riley. 566 00:30:17,240 --> 00:30:20,480 Speaker 2: Can you speak up, Sonny, I can't quite hear you. 567 00:30:21,120 --> 00:30:24,680 Speaker 4: Riley. Why are you not in a tight little French 568 00:30:24,680 --> 00:30:27,120 Speaker 4: a maze out for right now? My gosh, why are 569 00:30:27,160 --> 00:30:30,320 Speaker 4: you just still in regular civilian clothing when I need 570 00:30:30,360 --> 00:30:31,280 Speaker 4: you in something else? 571 00:30:35,280 --> 00:30:37,040 Speaker 2: To get a little overboard over there? 572 00:30:37,320 --> 00:30:39,880 Speaker 4: I might, I might try to be winning an award 573 00:30:40,320 --> 00:30:45,959 Speaker 4: in my my newfound sexual preference over here, but only 574 00:30:46,440 --> 00:30:53,240 Speaker 4: if you give Daddy what he wants the relevant comments. 575 00:30:53,240 --> 00:30:55,000 Speaker 6: It's easy for Sam to get this worn up, but 576 00:30:55,040 --> 00:30:56,320 Speaker 6: it takes John a little bit more. 577 00:30:58,160 --> 00:31:01,720 Speaker 4: Hats the top coats. Multiple direct discussions with my boss 578 00:31:01,720 --> 00:31:03,959 Speaker 4: that consist of something like, I'm not comfortable with being 579 00:31:04,000 --> 00:31:06,600 Speaker 4: nominated for these awards? Can you please knock it off? 580 00:31:07,520 --> 00:31:08,280 Speaker 2: John? What do you think? 581 00:31:12,280 --> 00:31:13,400 Speaker 4: We need to look something up? 582 00:31:14,080 --> 00:31:14,320 Speaker 2: Quick? 583 00:31:14,320 --> 00:31:18,280 Speaker 4: Pull it up? Pull it up. We need to look up. 584 00:31:19,760 --> 00:31:28,480 Speaker 4: What do we need to look up? Probably? M perfect, 585 00:31:29,320 --> 00:31:31,840 Speaker 4: There we go. Let's start the quiz, all right? Have 586 00:31:31,920 --> 00:31:35,640 Speaker 4: you ever had feelings in the same gender? Maybe I 587 00:31:35,640 --> 00:31:36,880 Speaker 4: didn't answer that. 588 00:31:37,080 --> 00:31:38,280 Speaker 6: I'm doing it for you. 589 00:31:38,800 --> 00:31:43,320 Speaker 4: Okay, Yes, this is this is where I'll draw the line. 590 00:31:45,640 --> 00:31:48,440 Speaker 4: What do you think Sam? I mean John? 591 00:31:49,280 --> 00:31:50,920 Speaker 2: When someone asks you you're cushing? 592 00:31:50,920 --> 00:31:51,200 Speaker 4: Gun? 593 00:31:53,280 --> 00:31:54,200 Speaker 2: Oh? Uh? 594 00:31:54,480 --> 00:31:56,280 Speaker 4: Poor rud There we go. 595 00:31:57,400 --> 00:32:02,640 Speaker 6: Oh have you have you ever asked anyone as anyone? 596 00:32:02,720 --> 00:32:05,040 Speaker 6: Has everyone ever asked you were gay? If you were gay? 597 00:32:05,400 --> 00:32:06,440 Speaker 2: Every day? 598 00:32:09,400 --> 00:32:10,520 Speaker 6: Sam? 599 00:32:10,560 --> 00:32:11,160 Speaker 2: Every day? 600 00:32:11,800 --> 00:32:13,080 Speaker 6: Sam? 601 00:32:13,480 --> 00:32:15,840 Speaker 4: You know what, I'll draw the line here, I'll let 602 00:32:15,880 --> 00:32:17,480 Speaker 4: I'll let the other Sam take this one. 603 00:32:18,040 --> 00:32:19,080 Speaker 6: Oh every day? 604 00:32:19,120 --> 00:32:19,600 Speaker 2: Okay? Cool? 605 00:32:21,240 --> 00:32:21,360 Speaker 8: Uh? 606 00:32:21,640 --> 00:32:24,120 Speaker 6: When you imagine being in a relationship, what do you picture? 607 00:32:25,480 --> 00:32:26,560 Speaker 6: It doesn't have X on? 608 00:32:27,080 --> 00:32:27,400 Speaker 8: Uh? 609 00:32:27,600 --> 00:32:28,440 Speaker 2: Can I choose two? 610 00:32:29,400 --> 00:32:29,720 Speaker 4: Two? 611 00:32:31,840 --> 00:32:35,880 Speaker 6: Okay? How do you feel about identifying as gay? 612 00:32:37,400 --> 00:32:37,640 Speaker 4: Yeah? 613 00:32:37,640 --> 00:32:38,200 Speaker 6: It feels right. 614 00:32:39,280 --> 00:32:41,640 Speaker 1: It mostly makes me a little nervous, but it also 615 00:32:41,720 --> 00:32:42,440 Speaker 1: kind of fits. 616 00:32:42,520 --> 00:32:42,800 Speaker 4: Okay. 617 00:32:42,880 --> 00:32:43,120 Speaker 2: Cool. 618 00:32:43,960 --> 00:32:47,440 Speaker 6: Have you ever attracted to someone of the same gender? 619 00:32:47,520 --> 00:32:47,720 Speaker 2: Yeah? 620 00:32:47,760 --> 00:32:51,440 Speaker 4: But everyone has right, dude, these are literally you. 621 00:32:51,840 --> 00:32:54,800 Speaker 6: How do you feel about dating someone of the option gender? 622 00:32:58,120 --> 00:33:02,400 Speaker 2: I wouldn't mind, but I but I haven't like got 623 00:33:02,440 --> 00:33:03,120 Speaker 2: about doing it. 624 00:33:05,120 --> 00:33:07,680 Speaker 6: H Do you ever fantasize about being with someone of 625 00:33:07,720 --> 00:33:08,320 Speaker 6: the same gender? 626 00:33:09,000 --> 00:33:09,600 Speaker 2: Not often? 627 00:33:14,320 --> 00:33:18,720 Speaker 6: Okay? Would you imagine kissing or being intimate with a 628 00:33:18,720 --> 00:33:19,760 Speaker 6: future partner? How do you feel? 629 00:33:20,960 --> 00:33:28,080 Speaker 1: I feel like a rush of of uh, like like 630 00:33:28,160 --> 00:33:31,400 Speaker 1: when you blow bubbles in a milkshake. 631 00:33:37,520 --> 00:33:40,320 Speaker 6: Too young for that. If you scroll through your feet FYP, 632 00:33:40,520 --> 00:33:46,120 Speaker 6: do you see content from queer creators. Yep, yeah, flash 633 00:33:46,120 --> 00:33:48,160 Speaker 6: forward five years. How likely is your partner the same 634 00:33:48,200 --> 00:33:48,720 Speaker 6: gender as you? 635 00:33:49,440 --> 00:33:49,600 Speaker 3: Uh? 636 00:33:49,920 --> 00:33:53,760 Speaker 4: Like very likely? 637 00:33:54,400 --> 00:33:54,560 Speaker 1: Uh? 638 00:33:55,360 --> 00:33:59,240 Speaker 6: Would you be comfortable using LGBTQ plus dating app? 639 00:34:00,400 --> 00:34:04,360 Speaker 2: I mean sure, I'm open to give me this ry. 640 00:34:04,920 --> 00:34:05,000 Speaker 8: Uh? 641 00:34:05,080 --> 00:34:07,720 Speaker 6: Are there are a lot of LGBTQ plus individuals in 642 00:34:07,760 --> 00:34:08,319 Speaker 6: your friend group? 643 00:34:09,040 --> 00:34:15,560 Speaker 1: Like thirty percent, thirty percent forty not really a few 644 00:34:15,560 --> 00:34:17,160 Speaker 1: good thirty percent thirty percent? 645 00:34:17,760 --> 00:34:20,200 Speaker 6: What expired you to take this quiz? I think I 646 00:34:20,280 --> 00:34:25,279 Speaker 6: might be gay? No good away? Shoe shoe go go go? 647 00:34:26,440 --> 00:34:28,560 Speaker 4: Oh the free ads? Uh, you're u. 648 00:34:28,920 --> 00:34:31,680 Speaker 6: You can be bisexual or somewhere on the spectrum. Congress, 649 00:34:31,760 --> 00:34:34,799 Speaker 6: Let's go, I got it, Let's go. 650 00:34:35,440 --> 00:34:39,120 Speaker 4: Any questions answered, ladies and gentlemen. So pat tops of 651 00:34:39,160 --> 00:34:41,880 Speaker 4: cop Tooentes says, I've had multiple direc compisents of my 652 00:34:41,920 --> 00:34:43,719 Speaker 4: boss and I already read that. And what did your 653 00:34:43,760 --> 00:34:45,840 Speaker 4: boss say in response? Has your boss shared any motivation 654 00:34:45,880 --> 00:34:48,680 Speaker 4: in doing this op response? The first time I addressed 655 00:34:48,680 --> 00:34:51,440 Speaker 4: this was utter bewilderment. In shock, I genuinely believe this 656 00:34:51,440 --> 00:34:54,360 Speaker 4: person within the best intentions initially nominated me based on 657 00:34:54,400 --> 00:34:58,760 Speaker 4: an erroneous assumption that I am gay. What my boss 658 00:34:58,800 --> 00:35:01,320 Speaker 4: is very involved in an include of ESQ statements and events. 659 00:35:01,320 --> 00:35:03,520 Speaker 4: So I think this was generally considered a thoughtful thing 660 00:35:03,560 --> 00:35:06,960 Speaker 4: to do, certainly with zero it will or intent. This 661 00:35:07,040 --> 00:35:09,120 Speaker 4: is where it gets in more into assumptions and feelings. 662 00:35:09,120 --> 00:35:12,560 Speaker 4: But subsequent requests have been met with, oh, you're taking 663 00:35:12,600 --> 00:35:17,479 Speaker 4: this too seriously, sort of a sort of a wink 664 00:35:17,480 --> 00:35:19,560 Speaker 4: and vibe, sort of a vibe or a wink and 665 00:35:19,640 --> 00:35:21,640 Speaker 4: a nod, as if I'm actually gay and it's some 666 00:35:21,800 --> 00:35:26,720 Speaker 4: secret now between us. Oh god, damn. It just feels 667 00:35:26,719 --> 00:35:28,800 Speaker 4: like it feels a bit like my boss was embarrassed 668 00:35:28,800 --> 00:35:31,440 Speaker 4: just by earlier connection that I'm not gay and has 669 00:35:31,520 --> 00:35:34,560 Speaker 4: since try to downplay it by nominating me again. 670 00:35:35,440 --> 00:35:37,479 Speaker 2: I mean, just accept it at this point, you. 671 00:35:37,360 --> 00:35:39,880 Speaker 4: Know, you know, yeah, why not? Why not? 672 00:35:40,400 --> 00:35:43,640 Speaker 1: Why are you pushing back? So honestly, it's cooler to 673 00:35:43,680 --> 00:35:46,400 Speaker 1: be gay than to be straight? Now, don't you want 674 00:35:46,440 --> 00:35:49,080 Speaker 1: to be cool at least in at least in Los Angeles? 675 00:35:49,200 --> 00:35:51,600 Speaker 1: Fit in with the cool Yes? Yeah, all the cool 676 00:35:51,680 --> 00:35:52,680 Speaker 1: kids are a little by. 677 00:35:52,680 --> 00:35:56,600 Speaker 4: Do what they do, okay. Opie responds to that comment 678 00:35:57,760 --> 00:36:00,319 Speaker 4: that this is harassment. Thank you very much for your 679 00:36:00,360 --> 00:36:03,240 Speaker 4: answer and for you taking it seriously, as I understand 680 00:36:03,239 --> 00:36:05,359 Speaker 4: from your suggestion my missed up. My next step will 681 00:36:05,360 --> 00:36:08,120 Speaker 4: be to electronically communicate that it is unwelcome and needs 682 00:36:08,120 --> 00:36:12,200 Speaker 4: to stop, so it's recorded and preserve communications, continue to document, 683 00:36:12,239 --> 00:36:14,239 Speaker 4: and then escalate if I need it. I otherwise really 684 00:36:14,280 --> 00:36:16,040 Speaker 4: like my job, my company, So I'm trying to navigate 685 00:36:16,040 --> 00:36:20,359 Speaker 4: this as carefully as possible. My dear sister, Sofia, I'm 686 00:36:20,400 --> 00:36:24,520 Speaker 4: just so, what's going on, Sofia? Yeah, what's happening? 687 00:36:24,560 --> 00:36:25,520 Speaker 2: What are you doing? 688 00:36:27,520 --> 00:36:35,320 Speaker 4: You're standing here my sport sister, Sofia just got comfortable amazing. 689 00:36:35,520 --> 00:36:38,680 Speaker 4: Oh my gosh, I couldn't move back to my knees. 690 00:36:38,800 --> 00:36:39,480 Speaker 2: Can't take it. 691 00:36:39,719 --> 00:36:42,200 Speaker 4: That was the other crazy part about this. The organization 692 00:36:42,360 --> 00:36:45,399 Speaker 4: lets me know I've been nominated publicly broadcast is information. Okay, 693 00:36:45,400 --> 00:36:46,120 Speaker 4: that's kind of crazy. 694 00:36:46,200 --> 00:36:52,000 Speaker 3: You know who is broadcasted during Hurricane Katrina? My favorite artist? 695 00:36:56,360 --> 00:37:00,399 Speaker 4: Oh my god, I gotta change your passwords. Bro, It's 696 00:37:00,440 --> 00:37:01,520 Speaker 4: been quite too long. 697 00:37:02,040 --> 00:37:04,520 Speaker 3: You know, when you're that deep of a fan, nothing 698 00:37:04,640 --> 00:37:06,200 Speaker 3: someone can say it can make you. 699 00:37:09,320 --> 00:37:11,600 Speaker 4: That's that's just too crazy. You gotta stop listening. 700 00:37:11,760 --> 00:37:13,319 Speaker 2: Kanye twenty twenty four. 701 00:37:13,480 --> 00:37:15,640 Speaker 4: You know, let me tell you something from my hero 702 00:37:16,040 --> 00:37:20,799 Speaker 4: icond of leader Elon. Sometimes you just gotta push through 703 00:37:20,880 --> 00:37:23,920 Speaker 4: no matter what other people want, you know, you just 704 00:37:23,960 --> 00:37:25,080 Speaker 4: gotta do what you want to do. 705 00:37:25,760 --> 00:37:28,520 Speaker 2: You know, sometimes at a way and heartbreaks feels good 706 00:37:28,520 --> 00:37:29,400 Speaker 2: in a place like this. 707 00:37:32,400 --> 00:37:34,400 Speaker 4: So I'll be your thoughts. It's such a weird thing 708 00:37:34,400 --> 00:37:37,920 Speaker 4: that I've never dreamt of it. I'm just getting comfortable. 709 00:37:37,960 --> 00:37:39,120 Speaker 4: I'm just getting comfortable over here. 710 00:37:39,160 --> 00:37:41,759 Speaker 2: I wish my knees looked like that. I wish I 711 00:37:41,800 --> 00:37:43,560 Speaker 2: could roll myself up in a pretzel. 712 00:37:44,120 --> 00:37:46,120 Speaker 4: I've had to deal with it. Thank you again, very 713 00:37:46,200 --> 00:37:50,759 Speaker 4: much appreciated. So listen, I have a question. I have 714 00:37:50,800 --> 00:37:52,680 Speaker 4: a question, John. 715 00:37:52,520 --> 00:38:00,239 Speaker 2: Well, I have the real question. What's that? Uh? 716 00:38:02,880 --> 00:38:05,520 Speaker 3: Well, as you know, I'm John, I have a girlfriend 717 00:38:05,640 --> 00:38:07,880 Speaker 3: Fry but yeah, yeah you girlfriend. 718 00:38:08,200 --> 00:38:12,359 Speaker 4: They shut up about it, like god, it's a lot 719 00:38:12,440 --> 00:38:13,919 Speaker 4: of girlfriend. 720 00:38:14,280 --> 00:38:16,000 Speaker 2: And just kidding. 721 00:38:18,520 --> 00:38:20,520 Speaker 1: I just wanted to mention that before I go into this. 722 00:38:21,719 --> 00:38:26,800 Speaker 1: I think ope should be uh. I think I think honestly, 723 00:38:26,800 --> 00:38:29,759 Speaker 1: they're lathering it on a little bit too thick with 724 00:38:30,040 --> 00:38:34,560 Speaker 1: OPI and the sexuality thing. I think it's like they're 725 00:38:34,560 --> 00:38:38,080 Speaker 1: trying to get weird points with having diversity in their company. 726 00:38:38,560 --> 00:38:41,600 Speaker 1: And uh, I don't think it needs to be like 727 00:38:41,880 --> 00:38:43,400 Speaker 1: broadcasted to that degree. 728 00:38:43,719 --> 00:38:47,600 Speaker 4: It's the most classic case of full backfiring. You think 729 00:38:47,600 --> 00:38:51,759 Speaker 4: you're doing something good, but you're doing it so so 730 00:38:51,960 --> 00:38:52,560 Speaker 4: terribly wrong. 731 00:38:53,200 --> 00:38:56,360 Speaker 3: Backfire reminds me of the back shots with my girlfriend Riley. 732 00:38:57,960 --> 00:39:02,520 Speaker 4: Change, put up a pall. Where's the Paul? Riley's the 733 00:39:02,960 --> 00:39:08,480 Speaker 4: no a holes? Yeah, no no nos? Should should op 734 00:39:10,960 --> 00:39:18,200 Speaker 4: stay or leave? Stay? Stay or leave? At the company? Ope, 735 00:39:18,360 --> 00:39:20,600 Speaker 4: the lead of common describing their boss. My boss is 736 00:39:20,719 --> 00:39:23,319 Speaker 4: very involved in an inclusive s comments and events, So 737 00:39:23,360 --> 00:39:25,320 Speaker 4: I think this is originally considered to be a thoughtful 738 00:39:25,320 --> 00:39:27,520 Speaker 4: thing to do, certainly with your ill will or intent. 739 00:39:28,560 --> 00:39:32,160 Speaker 4: Shoe we do bat shoeb we do bop. Guys, I'm 740 00:39:32,200 --> 00:39:35,200 Speaker 4: out of lost, Riley, Riley? 741 00:39:35,440 --> 00:39:37,879 Speaker 6: Right? Here is it right? 742 00:39:37,880 --> 00:39:41,880 Speaker 4: It's the update there, you're right update. I decided to 743 00:39:41,920 --> 00:39:43,759 Speaker 4: address this one final time as a person in my 744 00:39:43,800 --> 00:39:47,560 Speaker 4: company really doesn't have a sexual harassment policy beyond don't 745 00:39:47,560 --> 00:39:47,960 Speaker 4: do that. 746 00:39:52,040 --> 00:39:55,719 Speaker 2: Kind of sounds like our policy. 747 00:39:56,320 --> 00:39:59,360 Speaker 4: Sounds like a great policy. I've met with a Michael 748 00:39:59,680 --> 00:40:01,880 Speaker 4: I am, I met with us Michael Scott esquebosque with 749 00:40:01,920 --> 00:40:08,200 Speaker 4: another leader who is illegal comfortable. Oh wait, oh perfect, 750 00:40:08,640 --> 00:40:09,160 Speaker 4: here we go. 751 00:40:09,800 --> 00:40:10,000 Speaker 8: Uh. 752 00:40:10,080 --> 00:40:12,439 Speaker 4: I used pointed phrases that were brought up by legal 753 00:40:12,440 --> 00:40:19,920 Speaker 4: advisors like SEGS based harassment. Thank you, I who, an 754 00:40:19,960 --> 00:40:22,520 Speaker 4: our slash legal advice poster, had suggested that this seems 755 00:40:22,560 --> 00:40:25,920 Speaker 4: like a misguided an inappropriate way of helping me to 756 00:40:26,000 --> 00:40:26,479 Speaker 4: come out. 757 00:40:27,000 --> 00:40:27,239 Speaker 2: Wow. 758 00:40:27,320 --> 00:40:29,480 Speaker 4: In the course of our conversation, it became clear that 759 00:40:29,560 --> 00:40:32,600 Speaker 4: this is exactly what was happening. I in turn made 760 00:40:32,600 --> 00:40:34,879 Speaker 4: it clear that it wasn't really anyone's business to help 761 00:40:34,880 --> 00:40:36,359 Speaker 4: me with things outside of my role at work. 762 00:40:36,480 --> 00:40:42,759 Speaker 1: Also, outing someone in a company setting would just be terrible. Exactly, Yeah, 763 00:40:42,760 --> 00:40:43,880 Speaker 1: this is this is legit. 764 00:40:44,360 --> 00:40:49,040 Speaker 4: Yes that I'm being serious too, look at me. I 765 00:40:49,080 --> 00:40:51,080 Speaker 4: also stated that this is the last time that we 766 00:40:51,120 --> 00:40:53,799 Speaker 4: would have this conversation without escalating it to the New 767 00:40:53,880 --> 00:40:57,920 Speaker 4: York State Human Rights slash Offices of Sexual Harassment. WHOA. 768 00:40:59,120 --> 00:41:01,640 Speaker 4: Michael Scott was a pologizing profusely. I love that. That's 769 00:41:01,719 --> 00:41:04,160 Speaker 4: the boss's name. Now, Riley the face I see. I 770 00:41:04,200 --> 00:41:06,000 Speaker 4: love the Office. You know, there was this one time 771 00:41:06,000 --> 00:41:08,760 Speaker 4: with my ex that I was like watching the Office episode. 772 00:41:09,920 --> 00:41:12,120 Speaker 4: Oh it was the episode where you know Dwight had 773 00:41:12,160 --> 00:41:14,000 Speaker 4: like he lit the you know, the one where he 774 00:41:14,080 --> 00:41:16,480 Speaker 4: lights the can the Roman candles and it's like popping 775 00:41:16,480 --> 00:41:18,480 Speaker 4: all over the office and there's like a fire and 776 00:41:18,520 --> 00:41:20,319 Speaker 4: then like the door handles were hot. 777 00:41:21,320 --> 00:41:22,880 Speaker 2: But when room was built. 778 00:41:23,719 --> 00:41:25,680 Speaker 4: Speaking of hot, I left something in Eve and can 779 00:41:25,680 --> 00:41:26,399 Speaker 4: you go get it? 780 00:41:26,520 --> 00:41:28,160 Speaker 6: Yeah, I got you, I got you. Okay, I'll just 781 00:41:28,160 --> 00:41:29,000 Speaker 6: get your sister, do it? 782 00:41:29,120 --> 00:41:29,880 Speaker 5: You get it? 783 00:41:29,920 --> 00:41:39,480 Speaker 4: Sovi onto this next part. No, oh, there you are 784 00:41:39,640 --> 00:41:40,240 Speaker 4: my sister. 785 00:41:40,840 --> 00:41:41,000 Speaker 3: Uh. 786 00:41:41,080 --> 00:41:43,280 Speaker 4: Later, my CEO college let me know it was appalling, 787 00:41:43,280 --> 00:41:44,880 Speaker 4: it would never happen again, and to ask if I 788 00:41:44,920 --> 00:41:47,440 Speaker 4: needed a few days off. He also wanted to thank 789 00:41:47,480 --> 00:41:49,480 Speaker 4: me for bringing up the issue and promise to change 790 00:41:49,480 --> 00:41:52,000 Speaker 4: whatever that means. I feel like everyone took that seriously 791 00:41:52,000 --> 00:41:54,640 Speaker 4: into their best uh And the best possible outcome so 792 00:41:54,760 --> 00:41:57,319 Speaker 4: far is it didn't turn into a legal issue, though 793 00:41:57,400 --> 00:41:59,360 Speaker 4: I realized that it was not as quite high drama 794 00:41:59,400 --> 00:42:03,319 Speaker 4: or exciting. I also was contacted by the organization who 795 00:42:03,360 --> 00:42:06,720 Speaker 4: continued to publicly notify people of their awards, and received 796 00:42:06,719 --> 00:42:11,040 Speaker 4: an oddly clipped and rude email in return. What I 797 00:42:11,080 --> 00:42:12,920 Speaker 4: made it clear that this is not okay and the 798 00:42:12,960 --> 00:42:17,240 Speaker 4: way they operate could cause unintentionable, unintentional or irreparable harm. 799 00:42:17,360 --> 00:42:20,200 Speaker 4: Thank you to everyone who provided advice and took this issue. Seriously, 800 00:42:20,560 --> 00:42:22,520 Speaker 4: there were times where I felt like I was not evil, 801 00:42:23,000 --> 00:42:26,200 Speaker 4: I was not being I felt like I was not 802 00:42:26,239 --> 00:42:28,440 Speaker 4: being able to take a joke. But you guys reassured 803 00:42:28,480 --> 00:42:31,080 Speaker 4: me that this wasn't okay and also how to fix it, y'all? 804 00:42:31,160 --> 00:42:31,399 Speaker 2: Rock? 805 00:42:31,560 --> 00:42:34,560 Speaker 4: Thanks? What do you think? John? 806 00:42:36,080 --> 00:42:43,960 Speaker 2: Pretty good? Pretty good? Solid, pretty solid. That's all I 807 00:42:44,000 --> 00:42:44,479 Speaker 2: have to say. 808 00:42:44,680 --> 00:42:46,279 Speaker 4: That's all I have to say. That's all I have 809 00:42:46,360 --> 00:42:48,960 Speaker 4: to say, ladies and gentlemen. He's made a few words, 810 00:42:49,239 --> 00:42:50,640 Speaker 4: but every word is meaningful. 811 00:42:51,560 --> 00:42:53,160 Speaker 2: Well, they have so many words left. 812 00:42:53,600 --> 00:42:57,040 Speaker 3: Yeah, gotta conserve them. 813 00:42:57,200 --> 00:43:01,239 Speaker 4: Yeah, did you take your take your vitamins today? Green Water? 814 00:43:02,160 --> 00:43:04,360 Speaker 2: I have to have a reminder to do that. 815 00:43:04,640 --> 00:43:06,320 Speaker 4: That's true. You know this morning when I was in 816 00:43:06,400 --> 00:43:09,560 Speaker 4: ice fath I I was thinking about something. 817 00:43:09,640 --> 00:43:13,000 Speaker 2: What are you thinking about this next role? 818 00:43:13,080 --> 00:43:15,759 Speaker 4: In the comments, co one on one four says man, 819 00:43:15,800 --> 00:43:17,640 Speaker 4: I really wanted to read that email and identify the 820 00:43:17,640 --> 00:43:21,040 Speaker 4: clips out of the course, Opie says me, Hi, there 821 00:43:21,480 --> 00:43:29,759 Speaker 4: it's the email, guys, it's the email. Riley. Yeah, this 822 00:43:29,840 --> 00:43:30,479 Speaker 4: is a big deal. 823 00:43:31,080 --> 00:43:31,360 Speaker 2: Poll. 824 00:43:31,600 --> 00:43:36,799 Speaker 4: Where's the pole? Riley? And no, no, Riley, where's the 825 00:43:36,840 --> 00:43:39,359 Speaker 4: poles to throw at me? Hah? 826 00:43:40,200 --> 00:43:41,520 Speaker 6: You have new things to throw at me. 827 00:43:41,800 --> 00:43:51,920 Speaker 4: I'm looking for them, Riley, Eh, where's the pole there, sir? No, No, 828 00:43:52,080 --> 00:43:54,880 Speaker 4: I don't see a pole. Where's the bowl? Come on? 829 00:43:55,800 --> 00:43:56,960 Speaker 2: Oh? 830 00:43:57,000 --> 00:43:58,920 Speaker 4: There it is? Oh it does that? Have not the 831 00:43:59,080 --> 00:43:59,839 Speaker 4: hil that's so great? 832 00:44:00,920 --> 00:44:01,000 Speaker 9: Me? 833 00:44:01,560 --> 00:44:03,320 Speaker 4: Hi there. I've received a few of those emails. I 834 00:44:03,320 --> 00:44:05,200 Speaker 4: wanted to make it clear that I am fully on 835 00:44:05,239 --> 00:44:08,080 Speaker 4: board with your mission, but I am not actually gay myself. 836 00:44:08,840 --> 00:44:16,520 Speaker 4: I speak for yourself. Oh, I worry the email. This 837 00:44:16,600 --> 00:44:17,360 Speaker 4: is the email. 838 00:44:17,960 --> 00:44:19,360 Speaker 2: This is the email. 839 00:44:20,520 --> 00:44:21,320 Speaker 4: It's the email. 840 00:44:21,600 --> 00:44:26,560 Speaker 2: Buck in my day, we sent it by blood on 841 00:44:26,640 --> 00:44:27,120 Speaker 2: a letter. 842 00:44:32,680 --> 00:44:35,200 Speaker 4: I worry a bit about the people who I worry 843 00:44:35,239 --> 00:44:37,200 Speaker 4: a bit about those who may have told a select 844 00:44:37,200 --> 00:44:40,160 Speaker 4: few people at their own organizations how they identify and 845 00:44:40,200 --> 00:44:44,319 Speaker 4: nominated with good intentions, and then essentially outed publicly by 846 00:44:44,400 --> 00:44:46,920 Speaker 4: the nomination and award winning process. This could potentially be 847 00:44:47,000 --> 00:44:55,200 Speaker 4: a huge issue if someone has chosen not to be out, Riley. Yeah, 848 00:44:55,239 --> 00:44:56,600 Speaker 4: they're not even publicly gay. 849 00:44:57,480 --> 00:44:58,120 Speaker 6: What do you call that? 850 00:44:59,560 --> 00:45:06,399 Speaker 4: In the closet response someone at work nominated you sent 851 00:45:06,400 --> 00:45:10,000 Speaker 4: from my iPhone so much effort. I am far more 852 00:45:10,120 --> 00:45:12,279 Speaker 4: peeved by the no big deal of response that I 853 00:45:12,320 --> 00:45:14,400 Speaker 4: am over anything else. I'm sure it's a low effort 854 00:45:14,400 --> 00:45:17,560 Speaker 4: way of just denying responsibility but ug frustrating. 855 00:45:17,719 --> 00:45:20,840 Speaker 1: That is such a CEO response though, Like the CEO 856 00:45:21,200 --> 00:45:25,520 Speaker 1: just one line, no capital letters at all. 857 00:45:25,560 --> 00:45:26,000 Speaker 2: Just bo. 858 00:45:27,360 --> 00:45:29,000 Speaker 4: That's true, that's true. 859 00:45:29,239 --> 00:45:29,479 Speaker 2: Uh. 860 00:45:29,520 --> 00:45:32,320 Speaker 4: You know there's a great CEO and leader, Elon Musk 861 00:45:32,520 --> 00:45:36,160 Speaker 4: and he's my personal hero, by the way, and you 862 00:45:36,200 --> 00:45:38,320 Speaker 4: know he tells me that every day I need to 863 00:45:38,360 --> 00:45:42,279 Speaker 4: strive to keep innovating. You know that, John, we need to. 864 00:45:42,600 --> 00:45:46,600 Speaker 2: I hope you try to innovate. 865 00:45:46,920 --> 00:45:50,279 Speaker 4: You know, we need to have a more toxic work 866 00:45:50,360 --> 00:45:56,440 Speaker 4: environment that opi h camp w says. I really hope 867 00:45:56,600 --> 00:46:00,719 Speaker 4: Laop still took the gay cation, uh, and that the 868 00:46:00,760 --> 00:46:03,640 Speaker 4: CEO offered even if he isn't gay, Opie said Lowell, 869 00:46:03,719 --> 00:46:05,839 Speaker 4: I did not. I didn't want to return to any 870 00:46:05,880 --> 00:46:08,239 Speaker 4: more of a thing than it already was. I would 871 00:46:08,239 --> 00:46:10,640 Speaker 4: have taken the vacation. That's kind of far. I also 872 00:46:10,680 --> 00:46:12,920 Speaker 4: didn't want to act traumatize when I really wasn't just 873 00:46:12,920 --> 00:46:15,839 Speaker 4: annoyed and wanted it to stop. It doesn't matter much 874 00:46:15,840 --> 00:46:22,879 Speaker 4: for context, but I am a she and that's where 875 00:46:22,880 --> 00:46:26,000 Speaker 4: it ends, and that's it, and that is switch. 876 00:46:26,120 --> 00:46:28,560 Speaker 2: I'm going back to Sam, I'm going back to John. 877 00:46:29,600 --> 00:46:32,960 Speaker 6: You guys, wanna wait, wait, wait, okay, go for it? 878 00:46:33,440 --> 00:46:35,280 Speaker 2: What oh? 879 00:46:35,360 --> 00:46:39,480 Speaker 1: I that is crazy that they would just nominate, like 880 00:46:39,600 --> 00:46:42,319 Speaker 1: just like the liability that you would get opened up 881 00:46:42,360 --> 00:46:46,120 Speaker 1: to if you're nominating people that are not even if 882 00:46:46,120 --> 00:46:49,040 Speaker 1: they like were in the closet, nominating people not ready 883 00:46:49,080 --> 00:46:52,719 Speaker 1: to come out. Yeah, that is that's a massive violation. 884 00:46:52,960 --> 00:46:56,200 Speaker 1: And the way that they're like, I feel like there's 885 00:46:56,239 --> 00:46:58,239 Speaker 1: a lot of misguided people that are trying to be 886 00:46:58,320 --> 00:47:02,840 Speaker 1: allies and then just totally fail, you know, and that 887 00:47:02,840 --> 00:47:03,520 Speaker 1: that is uh. 888 00:47:04,280 --> 00:47:05,719 Speaker 2: I think that's what's happening right here. 889 00:47:05,960 --> 00:47:08,080 Speaker 4: Yeah, this is this is this is crazy. 890 00:47:09,040 --> 00:47:10,760 Speaker 2: But I think we're being replaced. 891 00:47:10,960 --> 00:47:12,479 Speaker 4: We are so sad. 892 00:47:13,400 --> 00:47:19,759 Speaker 1: Your worm queen has arrived, along with another queen, Riley's Queen. 893 00:47:21,719 --> 00:47:24,279 Speaker 6: All right, bye, guys, I love you. 894 00:47:29,080 --> 00:47:34,400 Speaker 9: Ah it's I'm samm. 895 00:47:35,040 --> 00:47:39,040 Speaker 6: Thanks guys for switching. That was so fun. I love 896 00:47:39,040 --> 00:47:44,239 Speaker 6: you guys. Have a good day. I hoped you liked it. 897 00:47:46,600 --> 00:47:46,960 Speaker 4: Bye. 898 00:47:48,680 --> 00:47:52,520 Speaker 6: Oh no, get comfy. 899 00:47:53,920 --> 00:47:54,800 Speaker 4: What have you done? 900 00:47:56,320 --> 00:47:59,959 Speaker 6: She comes in here for one second and breaks look at. 901 00:47:59,840 --> 00:48:03,120 Speaker 9: The fully taking it apart. What are you doing? 902 00:48:07,840 --> 00:48:09,040 Speaker 4: What are you what are you doing? 903 00:48:10,760 --> 00:48:11,200 Speaker 3: So you. 904 00:48:13,320 --> 00:48:14,080 Speaker 9: Fee it? 905 00:48:17,239 --> 00:48:20,360 Speaker 6: You break the one downstairs and you break was already broken. 906 00:48:20,560 --> 00:48:23,600 Speaker 9: I didn't touch it. See it's perfect now, she didn't 907 00:48:23,600 --> 00:48:28,320 Speaker 9: do anything. I don't know what you're talking about. Witnesses. Yeah, everybody, 908 00:48:32,480 --> 00:48:35,799 Speaker 9: death rage. Thank you for the bye buck tip. Had 909 00:48:35,840 --> 00:48:38,240 Speaker 9: to tip again just because y'all said my name correctly. 910 00:48:38,280 --> 00:48:42,080 Speaker 9: Oh no, I feel like I didn't deatherage death rage. 911 00:48:42,200 --> 00:48:45,520 Speaker 9: They did the first time. Death rage. It is death rage, 912 00:48:47,360 --> 00:48:47,879 Speaker 9: death rage. 913 00:48:48,239 --> 00:48:50,040 Speaker 6: I can't speak right. I'm dyslexic. 914 00:48:50,080 --> 00:48:52,520 Speaker 9: Dude, I assume that it's death rage. You might have 915 00:48:52,560 --> 00:48:59,560 Speaker 9: to take back the tip because uh, and Andrew you'urin 916 00:48:59,880 --> 00:49:01,960 Speaker 9: or Andre you'rn. Thank you for the two bucks. I 917 00:49:02,000 --> 00:49:08,759 Speaker 9: love you live Who's lit? I wish we were here. 918 00:49:07,120 --> 00:49:07,760 Speaker 4: The other rage. 919 00:49:07,760 --> 00:49:09,960 Speaker 9: Thank you for the five bucks. Tried to tip y'all 920 00:49:10,000 --> 00:49:13,759 Speaker 9: twice the link but four four keeps poping up. Thanks 921 00:49:13,840 --> 00:49:16,040 Speaker 9: y'all for saying my name correctly. I love watching all 922 00:49:16,120 --> 00:49:20,600 Speaker 9: daily best channel. I'm literally so sorry that we're anything wrong. Yeah, 923 00:49:20,680 --> 00:49:24,400 Speaker 9: I'm so excited. I'm so worried. Dam Thank you for 924 00:49:24,400 --> 00:49:29,560 Speaker 9: the twenty gifted men gifted say thank you, say thank 925 00:49:29,600 --> 00:49:35,520 Speaker 9: you in the chat. Thank you, mommy, thank you for 926 00:49:35,520 --> 00:49:40,560 Speaker 9: becoming a new member earthle Chileen and Nicole Lynn. Thank 927 00:49:40,560 --> 00:49:42,320 Speaker 9: you for the ten bucks, thirty more minutes. 928 00:49:42,440 --> 00:49:42,840 Speaker 4: Let's go. 929 00:49:43,560 --> 00:49:46,440 Speaker 9: Let's go. Ashley Skyler ninety eight. Thank you for the 930 00:49:46,440 --> 00:49:48,759 Speaker 9: twenty bucks tip on the tip link. We love to 931 00:49:48,800 --> 00:49:57,319 Speaker 9: see it and you scroll up. Sebastian Suching. Thank you 932 00:49:57,320 --> 00:50:00,719 Speaker 9: for the eleven seventy one. This boss is so gay. 933 00:50:00,960 --> 00:50:05,000 Speaker 9: I can't see it. Ley, this boss is so gay? 934 00:50:05,200 --> 00:50:10,600 Speaker 9: Do you have to love him? Also? You have to 935 00:50:10,640 --> 00:50:11,640 Speaker 9: love him. You have to love. 936 00:50:13,840 --> 00:50:14,040 Speaker 2: Gay. 937 00:50:14,280 --> 00:50:18,200 Speaker 9: You gotta I love him, you know I love him. 938 00:50:19,440 --> 00:50:23,840 Speaker 9: Death Rage. Thank you for the one book. And Sue 939 00:50:23,920 --> 00:50:27,640 Speaker 9: Empire Coyote. Thank you for the ten bucks and Little Bob, 940 00:50:28,160 --> 00:50:33,680 Speaker 9: thank you for the five gifted membership. Death Rage. I 941 00:50:33,760 --> 00:50:36,000 Speaker 9: was right the first time, death Rage. I was right 942 00:50:36,040 --> 00:50:38,479 Speaker 9: the first time death Rage. But then you said something 943 00:50:38,520 --> 00:50:40,560 Speaker 9: about like pronouncing your name right, and so I thought 944 00:50:41,360 --> 00:50:44,480 Speaker 9: we got really scared. I got really scared. Sometimes I 945 00:50:44,520 --> 00:50:46,759 Speaker 9: get really scared. You just can't doubt yourself. This is 946 00:50:47,320 --> 00:50:50,000 Speaker 9: what we've learned. It's exactly what you like when you're 947 00:50:50,040 --> 00:50:53,719 Speaker 9: taking one of those those little scantron tests. Oh yeah, 948 00:50:54,160 --> 00:50:56,240 Speaker 9: to trust your gut. You go with your first answer, 949 00:50:56,760 --> 00:50:57,279 Speaker 9: always right. 950 00:50:57,360 --> 00:51:00,120 Speaker 6: And we's get on with your first story of the day. 951 00:51:00,480 --> 00:51:08,120 Speaker 6: Let's do it, Hey, good mine. 952 00:51:08,200 --> 00:51:15,120 Speaker 9: Natasha Lowe's Sleepy eight twenty seven is two. My fiance 953 00:51:15,239 --> 00:51:16,080 Speaker 9: is having an emotional. 954 00:51:15,800 --> 00:51:17,680 Speaker 2: Affair yep, excellent. 955 00:51:18,360 --> 00:51:23,360 Speaker 9: Whoa My fiance is having an emotional affair with his coworker, 956 00:51:23,520 --> 00:51:28,200 Speaker 9: but he doesn't realize it. Wake up, smell the roses 957 00:51:28,239 --> 00:51:31,960 Speaker 9: in the emotional affair period. As the title suggests, My 958 00:51:32,239 --> 00:51:35,680 Speaker 9: thirty two female fiance thirty six male and I have 959 00:51:35,800 --> 00:51:39,160 Speaker 9: recently had a discussion about me feeling a little insecure 960 00:51:39,200 --> 00:51:42,520 Speaker 9: in our relationship. By the way, this comes from throw 961 00:51:42,600 --> 00:51:46,080 Speaker 9: a salts on the r Slasha Okay storytime subret it. 962 00:51:46,520 --> 00:51:46,680 Speaker 4: So. 963 00:51:46,920 --> 00:51:50,080 Speaker 9: He is a very kind and charismatic man, and we 964 00:51:50,160 --> 00:51:53,920 Speaker 9: have been together for four years, engaged and living together 965 00:51:54,000 --> 00:51:56,759 Speaker 9: for one year. We have never had major issues like 966 00:51:56,800 --> 00:51:59,960 Speaker 9: this because we have always been transparent with one another. 967 00:52:00,080 --> 00:52:04,719 Speaker 9: There Two months ago, a new girl twenty four female 968 00:52:04,719 --> 00:52:09,920 Speaker 9: and again he is thirty six, began working at his office. 969 00:52:10,160 --> 00:52:13,440 Speaker 9: She's young, and, based on our limited interactions, seems genuinely 970 00:52:13,520 --> 00:52:17,239 Speaker 9: good hearted. But I kept having a growing feeling that 971 00:52:17,320 --> 00:52:21,160 Speaker 9: something was off. He had been coming home every day 972 00:52:21,280 --> 00:52:23,480 Speaker 9: raving about her and how nice it is to have 973 00:52:23,480 --> 00:52:26,880 Speaker 9: someone in the office who understands and laughs at his jokes. 974 00:52:27,120 --> 00:52:29,960 Speaker 9: Does she understand them? Or maybe is she She's like, oh, 975 00:52:30,320 --> 00:52:32,840 Speaker 9: you're so funny. I think I think that's an option. 976 00:52:33,760 --> 00:52:36,440 Speaker 9: It seems like an innocent work friendship. But he started 977 00:52:36,480 --> 00:52:39,279 Speaker 9: to give me other details from their conversation that had 978 00:52:39,320 --> 00:52:42,799 Speaker 9: me concerned. For instance, she would announce to him when 979 00:52:42,840 --> 00:52:47,040 Speaker 9: she was ovulating what nice or starting her period as 980 00:52:47,080 --> 00:52:51,800 Speaker 9: an excuse for being grumpy or overly touchy? Overly touchy? 981 00:52:52,880 --> 00:52:55,680 Speaker 9: What does that mean? What does that mean? Okay, I 982 00:52:55,680 --> 00:52:58,640 Speaker 9: think you wouldn't get away with being like like, you're 983 00:52:58,680 --> 00:53:01,840 Speaker 9: like really mean and you're like so someone. I'm very sorry. 984 00:53:02,400 --> 00:53:09,120 Speaker 9: Me got me when I but the touchiness, that seems 985 00:53:09,160 --> 00:53:12,719 Speaker 9: like very things to be like on your period, really 986 00:53:12,719 --> 00:53:15,200 Speaker 9: grumpy or really lovey. No, Like, I mean, I can 987 00:53:15,280 --> 00:53:17,799 Speaker 9: see that, but I think it's a little bit weird 988 00:53:17,800 --> 00:53:20,080 Speaker 9: because it kind of implies that she's being touchy with him. 989 00:53:20,560 --> 00:53:23,960 Speaker 9: That's what I'm weird. That's that's very weird. Yeah. 990 00:53:23,680 --> 00:53:23,799 Speaker 5: Uh. 991 00:53:24,000 --> 00:53:27,840 Speaker 9: She began describing in detail all of the spicy sleep 992 00:53:27,960 --> 00:53:31,400 Speaker 9: encounter she has had since moving to our city, and 993 00:53:31,480 --> 00:53:33,680 Speaker 9: he was relaying some of these stories back to me 994 00:53:33,760 --> 00:53:39,240 Speaker 9: as if they were exciting work stories. We're like we're 995 00:53:40,080 --> 00:53:41,799 Speaker 9: I don't know if we should be talking about that 996 00:53:41,880 --> 00:53:45,879 Speaker 9: at work. No, maybe not. Two weeks ago, I met 997 00:53:45,880 --> 00:53:48,400 Speaker 9: her for the first time at a company dinner. I 998 00:53:48,440 --> 00:53:50,600 Speaker 9: told her it was nice to finally meet her after 999 00:53:50,680 --> 00:53:57,719 Speaker 9: hearing so much about her. She smiled, ignored me, and 1000 00:53:57,800 --> 00:54:01,040 Speaker 9: began talking to my fiance about how I was from 1001 00:54:01,040 --> 00:54:05,319 Speaker 9: her expectations in front of her. The next week, she 1002 00:54:05,320 --> 00:54:07,480 Speaker 9: had apparently been talking a lot at work about how 1003 00:54:07,520 --> 00:54:10,080 Speaker 9: pretty she thought I was and how lucky my partner 1004 00:54:10,160 --> 00:54:13,120 Speaker 9: and I are to have found one another. It felt 1005 00:54:13,160 --> 00:54:15,000 Speaker 9: strange that she had a lot to say about me 1006 00:54:15,120 --> 00:54:16,840 Speaker 9: but didn't even speak to me when we had a 1007 00:54:16,960 --> 00:54:19,880 Speaker 9: chance to interact. I choked it up to being nervous 1008 00:54:20,040 --> 00:54:26,040 Speaker 9: or shy. Could be true, could be true. Possibly. Last week, 1009 00:54:26,160 --> 00:54:29,239 Speaker 9: my fiance came home with a very detailed story that 1010 00:54:29,320 --> 00:54:33,880 Speaker 9: she told him about a failed spicy sleep encounter seeking 1011 00:54:33,960 --> 00:54:38,759 Speaker 9: advice at work. That's I don't like it. That's taken 1012 00:54:38,800 --> 00:54:41,360 Speaker 9: it to another level. It's a weird level. 1013 00:54:41,600 --> 00:54:45,960 Speaker 6: Well, I usually talk about that stuff with my coworkers. Heka, Sam, 1014 00:54:46,160 --> 00:54:47,560 Speaker 6: and I say stop. 1015 00:54:49,520 --> 00:54:55,360 Speaker 9: Just to be weird. He oh cool, bro, yeah, you 1016 00:54:55,440 --> 00:54:59,560 Speaker 9: and Sam tried to I say no, I said, boundaries, boundaries, 1017 00:54:59,640 --> 00:55:01,879 Speaker 9: and that's he should be doing so they don't have 1018 00:55:02,080 --> 00:55:05,600 Speaker 9: guess what they don't have. I felt very uncomfortable with 1019 00:55:05,640 --> 00:55:08,000 Speaker 9: this and let him know that. Well, it's likely just 1020 00:55:08,040 --> 00:55:12,799 Speaker 9: my insecurity. I don't trust this sort of behavior. Um. 1021 00:55:13,440 --> 00:55:15,200 Speaker 9: He told me to give it time and once I 1022 00:55:15,239 --> 00:55:17,960 Speaker 9: get to know her, I'll see it's completely innocent. He 1023 00:55:18,000 --> 00:55:18,719 Speaker 9: told me to give it. 1024 00:55:18,880 --> 00:55:19,239 Speaker 4: Uh. Oh. 1025 00:55:19,239 --> 00:55:21,400 Speaker 9: She asked him to meet up with her over the weekend, 1026 00:55:21,520 --> 00:55:23,880 Speaker 9: and he went so far as to arrange a meeting 1027 00:55:24,080 --> 00:55:28,719 Speaker 9: without telling me until the day before, presumably with op 1028 00:55:28,920 --> 00:55:33,560 Speaker 9: there arrange a meeting between Opee right and this girl. 1029 00:55:34,400 --> 00:55:38,040 Speaker 9: We had originally made dinner plans with my parents, and 1030 00:55:38,080 --> 00:55:40,080 Speaker 9: he told me he would come later on because he 1031 00:55:40,160 --> 00:55:43,160 Speaker 9: needed to meet with her to discuss her relationship problems. 1032 00:55:44,680 --> 00:55:46,840 Speaker 9: You need it, you needed to do I feel like 1033 00:55:46,880 --> 00:55:50,799 Speaker 9: you could just like shoot at texts. Yeah, Like it 1034 00:55:50,840 --> 00:55:53,160 Speaker 9: seems like they're only I don't know, I don't know 1035 00:55:53,200 --> 00:55:57,160 Speaker 9: if they're at that level of friendship yet. Yeah, that's 1036 00:55:57,200 --> 00:56:01,280 Speaker 9: just And how old are they? He's thirty and she's twenty. 1037 00:56:01,320 --> 00:56:04,280 Speaker 9: Fight there's like a big age just suge age difference. 1038 00:56:04,440 --> 00:56:07,719 Speaker 9: It feels very like, Yeah, that's weird. And I'm like 1039 00:56:07,960 --> 00:56:12,000 Speaker 9: your ghost ghost Blue Nightmare says nope, sorry, red Flag, 1040 00:56:12,040 --> 00:56:14,960 Speaker 9: and he's given me the I agree, agree, I agree. 1041 00:56:15,480 --> 00:56:18,680 Speaker 9: Audrey Rash says coworker's into Opie's boyfriend. 1042 00:56:19,719 --> 00:56:21,680 Speaker 4: What crazy. 1043 00:56:22,160 --> 00:56:29,520 Speaker 9: No, I very passionately told him that this is not okay, 1044 00:56:29,800 --> 00:56:32,239 Speaker 9: and he canceled his plans with her, adding that it 1045 00:56:32,360 --> 00:56:34,600 Speaker 9: was cute that I was getting so jealous of her. 1046 00:56:35,960 --> 00:56:39,080 Speaker 9: What I'm annoyed. What I would be so annoyed if 1047 00:56:39,080 --> 00:56:42,640 Speaker 9: I was like expressing yeah, like my discomfort and being like, hey, 1048 00:56:42,640 --> 00:56:46,120 Speaker 9: this is you know, okay, that's cute, so cute, he's 1049 00:56:46,160 --> 00:56:49,839 Speaker 9: so cute, that's so infantilizing. Yeah. And it's also like 1050 00:56:50,320 --> 00:56:51,320 Speaker 9: not taking it seriously. 1051 00:56:51,520 --> 00:56:54,200 Speaker 8: Yeah, you know, it's like, yes, I am like I'm 1052 00:56:54,200 --> 00:56:57,279 Speaker 8: not just jealous, I'm like calling out red Yeah, like 1053 00:56:57,400 --> 00:56:58,680 Speaker 8: weird behavior exactly. 1054 00:56:58,719 --> 00:57:01,680 Speaker 9: And then it's like, oh, you're jealous of me. I'm 1055 00:57:01,800 --> 00:57:08,320 Speaker 9: worried about who I'm talking to. You're so sweet? Yeah no, No. 1056 00:57:09,960 --> 00:57:13,480 Speaker 9: This Monday, after work, she called his personal phone. She 1057 00:57:13,560 --> 00:57:15,680 Speaker 9: said he had not sent her any jokes at work 1058 00:57:15,680 --> 00:57:18,880 Speaker 9: that day and she wanted to know why she's flirting. Yeah, what, 1059 00:57:19,200 --> 00:57:24,400 Speaker 9: she's literally flirting with them? Absolutely stop it stop, she said. 1060 00:57:24,400 --> 00:57:26,400 Speaker 9: He uh oh. I told him he needed to set 1061 00:57:26,440 --> 00:57:29,600 Speaker 9: boundaries immediately. It's fine to be friendly with people in 1062 00:57:29,640 --> 00:57:33,000 Speaker 9: the office, but it really felt excessive that she was 1063 00:57:33,080 --> 00:57:36,440 Speaker 9: calling because he was enacting some kind of boundaries. I 1064 00:57:36,480 --> 00:57:38,560 Speaker 9: was upset that he had given her access to private 1065 00:57:38,560 --> 00:57:41,280 Speaker 9: communication line as well. He said he would just tell 1066 00:57:41,280 --> 00:57:43,080 Speaker 9: her he was busy with work and the thought to 1067 00:57:43,120 --> 00:57:46,400 Speaker 9: send jokes didn't cross his mind, and I thought that 1068 00:57:46,440 --> 00:57:50,520 Speaker 9: would be the end of the conversation. Today, he came 1069 00:57:50,560 --> 00:57:54,040 Speaker 9: home from work sulking and refused to talk to me. 1070 00:57:54,280 --> 00:57:54,520 Speaker 2: Oh oh. 1071 00:57:55,120 --> 00:57:57,320 Speaker 9: Eventually, he told me that he explained to her that 1072 00:57:57,400 --> 00:58:00,000 Speaker 9: I was feeling insecure about how close their friendship had become, 1073 00:58:00,680 --> 00:58:03,000 Speaker 9: and she said that she didn't want to make me uncomfortable, 1074 00:58:03,160 --> 00:58:07,600 Speaker 9: so she said she wouldn't speak to him at all anymore. 1075 00:58:08,560 --> 00:58:10,760 Speaker 9: He was crying and told me that she's just like 1076 00:58:10,800 --> 00:58:15,440 Speaker 9: a younger sister. You have a weird relationship. He's an 1077 00:58:15,480 --> 00:58:18,120 Speaker 9: only child, and he was happy that she trusted him, 1078 00:58:18,440 --> 00:58:21,440 Speaker 9: but he was forced to end the relationship because of me. 1079 00:58:23,200 --> 00:58:26,440 Speaker 9: That's so frustrating. Why are you blaming off he for 1080 00:58:26,560 --> 00:58:30,480 Speaker 9: just asking him to set some boundaries. Yeah, it's obvious 1081 00:58:30,560 --> 00:58:32,920 Speaker 9: that she wanted a relationship, Like, I feel like it's 1082 00:58:32,920 --> 00:58:35,960 Speaker 9: pretty obvious that this girl at work wanted a relationship. Yes, 1083 00:58:36,040 --> 00:58:38,160 Speaker 9: and she was trying to test that and see how 1084 00:58:38,240 --> 00:58:40,760 Speaker 9: much she could get away with, right, and that's why 1085 00:58:40,760 --> 00:58:41,440 Speaker 9: she's ending it. 1086 00:58:41,560 --> 00:58:43,600 Speaker 8: Yeah, and good on her yea for like taking a 1087 00:58:43,640 --> 00:58:46,000 Speaker 8: step back and not you know, continuing. 1088 00:58:46,160 --> 00:58:46,960 Speaker 9: Yeah, exactly. 1089 00:58:47,120 --> 00:58:50,080 Speaker 8: But like his thought process of her being like a 1090 00:58:50,120 --> 00:58:51,720 Speaker 8: little sister, I don't think she. 1091 00:58:51,680 --> 00:58:52,439 Speaker 9: Felt the same way. 1092 00:58:52,760 --> 00:58:56,720 Speaker 8: No, No, I think I mean as someone as a 1093 00:58:56,800 --> 00:58:59,280 Speaker 8: younger sister to an older brother saying I wouldn't have 1094 00:58:59,280 --> 00:59:01,160 Speaker 8: those kinds of covers. 1095 00:59:00,560 --> 00:59:03,680 Speaker 9: I would not be talking. No, no, no, no, no no. 1096 00:59:04,200 --> 00:59:08,880 Speaker 9: I actively I feel sick thinking about it. I don't know. 1097 00:59:09,040 --> 00:59:11,080 Speaker 9: I don't even want to think about it. Neither. 1098 00:59:11,240 --> 00:59:11,479 Speaker 4: Wrong. 1099 00:59:11,880 --> 00:59:14,320 Speaker 9: And so maybe it's because he's an only child that 1100 00:59:14,440 --> 00:59:18,520 Speaker 9: he just doesn't know how sibling relationships work. But uh not, Yeah, 1101 00:59:18,640 --> 00:59:25,320 Speaker 9: not a younger sister relationship. I apologized and told him 1102 00:59:25,320 --> 00:59:27,680 Speaker 9: that I had expected him to keep my feelings private 1103 00:59:27,760 --> 00:59:30,880 Speaker 9: and adjust his behavior rather than telling her everything. Also 1104 00:59:30,960 --> 00:59:33,160 Speaker 9: a great point that he really just kind of dumped 1105 00:59:33,160 --> 00:59:36,040 Speaker 9: it on her. He was like, Oh, my girlfriend doesn't 1106 00:59:36,040 --> 00:59:39,600 Speaker 9: want me to she's insecure. Yeah, it's horrifaul when he 1107 00:59:39,600 --> 00:59:43,480 Speaker 9: could have just said hey, like either either have just 1108 00:59:43,520 --> 00:59:47,000 Speaker 9: adjusted not said anything and just adjusted his behavior or 1109 00:59:47,080 --> 00:59:50,440 Speaker 9: said you know, hey, I'm feeling a little bit uncomfortable 1110 00:59:50,880 --> 00:59:52,680 Speaker 9: now we're talking, you know, like what we're talking about, 1111 00:59:52,720 --> 00:59:54,960 Speaker 9: especially because I have a relationship, right, Yeah. 1112 00:59:54,760 --> 00:59:57,880 Speaker 8: Exactly, because I feel like there's some clear things that 1113 00:59:57,960 --> 01:00:01,280 Speaker 8: like pass the boundary of like friends in their conversations. 1114 01:00:01,840 --> 01:00:03,880 Speaker 9: So it's like you just say that you don't really 1115 01:00:03,920 --> 01:00:05,800 Speaker 9: want to talk about that, Yeah, just say yeah, hey, 1116 01:00:05,960 --> 01:00:10,520 Speaker 9: let's not talk about this. Yeah, sorry, like not work appropriate? Yeah, 1117 01:00:11,120 --> 01:00:13,800 Speaker 9: he said that would be dishonest, and he didn't want 1118 01:00:13,840 --> 01:00:16,520 Speaker 9: to distance himself from her without making her aware of 1119 01:00:16,560 --> 01:00:19,520 Speaker 9: the situation. I asked him why it was so important 1120 01:00:19,560 --> 01:00:22,480 Speaker 9: for him to discuss very personal and not safe for 1121 01:00:22,640 --> 01:00:25,760 Speaker 9: work topics with a younger woman that he had only 1122 01:00:25,800 --> 01:00:29,800 Speaker 9: known for two months. Good question, exactly, good question, Like 1123 01:00:30,680 --> 01:00:34,040 Speaker 9: if this was your friend of a very long time, perhaps, 1124 01:00:34,080 --> 01:00:35,960 Speaker 9: but this is a person that you've known for two months, 1125 01:00:35,960 --> 01:00:38,480 Speaker 9: that you met through a work setting. Yeah, and you're 1126 01:00:38,520 --> 01:00:42,520 Speaker 9: talking about these kinds of things at work, right, And 1127 01:00:42,560 --> 01:00:43,920 Speaker 9: it's just like weird that like. 1128 01:00:45,440 --> 01:00:49,320 Speaker 8: He is saying that it would be dishonest for him to, 1129 01:00:49,440 --> 01:00:51,520 Speaker 8: like say, he doesn't want to have those conversations, so 1130 01:00:51,560 --> 01:00:53,320 Speaker 8: it's like, why do you want to have those conversations? 1131 01:00:53,720 --> 01:00:56,040 Speaker 9: You know, was sorry even having it in the first place. 1132 01:00:57,920 --> 01:01:00,640 Speaker 9: He angrily expressed me that I'm trying to police his 1133 01:01:00,760 --> 01:01:03,720 Speaker 9: joy and that I'm just upset that he's been too 1134 01:01:03,800 --> 01:01:06,439 Speaker 9: happy since meeting her. He said, I should have never 1135 01:01:06,480 --> 01:01:08,840 Speaker 9: brought it up. I feel that him telling all of 1136 01:01:08,840 --> 01:01:11,200 Speaker 9: this to his coworker is a breach of my trust 1137 01:01:11,240 --> 01:01:14,280 Speaker 9: in him. He is convinced that I ruined the relationship 1138 01:01:14,320 --> 01:01:18,240 Speaker 9: by being jealous. He feels I feel really bad because 1139 01:01:18,280 --> 01:01:20,439 Speaker 9: he was very happy at work and was happy about 1140 01:01:20,520 --> 01:01:23,680 Speaker 9: joking around and having lunch with her, but he said 1141 01:01:23,720 --> 01:01:26,400 Speaker 9: that because of me, they can't have any kind of 1142 01:01:26,440 --> 01:01:31,240 Speaker 9: relationship at all. Was my expression of feeling insecure the catalyst. 1143 01:01:31,360 --> 01:01:34,880 Speaker 9: Should I have kept this to myself? And small edit 1144 01:01:34,920 --> 01:01:37,840 Speaker 9: before a big old update. Thank you all for your 1145 01:01:37,880 --> 01:01:42,960 Speaker 9: advice and particularly for the articles about emotional affairs so true. 1146 01:01:43,040 --> 01:01:44,800 Speaker 9: I am going to have a discussion with him tonight 1147 01:01:44,840 --> 01:01:47,240 Speaker 9: and be completely honest about my feelings and go over 1148 01:01:47,280 --> 01:01:48,040 Speaker 9: some of the signs. 1149 01:01:48,680 --> 01:01:50,600 Speaker 4: I'll let you know how it goes. 1150 01:01:51,880 --> 01:01:53,280 Speaker 6: Yeah, it's inappropriate. 1151 01:01:53,400 --> 01:01:58,680 Speaker 9: It's inappropriate. I mean he's having these very intimately detailed 1152 01:01:59,080 --> 01:02:02,360 Speaker 9: conversations with the girl that he just meant, yes, is 1153 01:02:02,560 --> 01:02:06,360 Speaker 9: meeting with her outside of work, have these conversations. Yes, 1154 01:02:06,640 --> 01:02:10,120 Speaker 9: it's it's uncomfortable, right, And I mean I don't like that. 1155 01:02:10,280 --> 01:02:13,400 Speaker 8: He was like, I've just been so happy. Ye, she's 1156 01:02:13,440 --> 01:02:18,720 Speaker 8: so happy, like like that sounds like it's the make 1157 01:02:18,760 --> 01:02:21,400 Speaker 8: her happy. Yeah right, it sounds like he's talking about 1158 01:02:21,440 --> 01:02:22,080 Speaker 8: a relationship. 1159 01:02:22,200 --> 01:02:23,080 Speaker 9: Yeah, exactly. 1160 01:02:24,040 --> 01:02:26,880 Speaker 6: So at what point would you have said he crossed 1161 01:02:26,880 --> 01:02:31,720 Speaker 6: a line of emotional affair, Like how far into the story? 1162 01:02:32,160 --> 01:02:37,040 Speaker 9: I don't necessarily know if I would say it's an 1163 01:02:37,040 --> 01:02:39,280 Speaker 9: emotional affair quite yet. 1164 01:02:40,760 --> 01:02:45,240 Speaker 6: Really, I mean, yes, he's going outside of work and 1165 01:02:45,400 --> 01:02:46,760 Speaker 6: she makes him happy. 1166 01:02:47,840 --> 01:02:50,840 Speaker 8: No, I guess, like I feel like emotional cheating is 1167 01:02:50,880 --> 01:02:52,000 Speaker 8: just very hard to define. 1168 01:02:52,080 --> 01:02:55,920 Speaker 9: Yeah, it's so kind of in you know gray area. 1169 01:02:56,200 --> 01:02:59,320 Speaker 6: Wait did it say anywhere where he met up with 1170 01:02:59,360 --> 01:03:03,320 Speaker 6: her rather than and opie? What do you mean, like 1171 01:03:04,000 --> 01:03:08,640 Speaker 6: the boyfriend met up with the coworker rather than op Yeah, Okay, 1172 01:03:08,760 --> 01:03:10,760 Speaker 6: that's where I would draw the line. 1173 01:03:10,640 --> 01:03:12,960 Speaker 9: I think. But the thing is that I don't think 1174 01:03:13,000 --> 01:03:17,680 Speaker 9: necessarily those things are like they could be emotional cheating, 1175 01:03:17,720 --> 01:03:19,280 Speaker 9: but I think there's also a world where they're not. 1176 01:03:19,840 --> 01:03:22,960 Speaker 9: I think I have a I would have problems without 1177 01:03:23,040 --> 01:03:26,040 Speaker 9: how he's you know, interacting with. 1178 01:03:26,160 --> 01:03:28,320 Speaker 6: Oh yeah, that too, sure, but I think the prior 1179 01:03:28,480 --> 01:03:30,400 Speaker 6: oritization if he's going to hang out with the coworker 1180 01:03:30,440 --> 01:03:32,439 Speaker 6: rather than the girlfriend. 1181 01:03:32,000 --> 01:03:36,040 Speaker 9: The op Yeah, I think there are there are like 1182 01:03:36,240 --> 01:03:41,680 Speaker 9: breakup offenses here. Yeah, I'm just it's like it's right now, 1183 01:03:42,560 --> 01:03:43,640 Speaker 9: we're towing the line. 1184 01:03:43,800 --> 01:03:44,000 Speaker 2: Yeah. 1185 01:03:44,320 --> 01:03:46,360 Speaker 9: I don't think it's quite there yet. Yeah, but there 1186 01:03:46,360 --> 01:03:48,200 Speaker 9: are definitely some things that are like not okay. 1187 01:03:48,320 --> 01:03:48,520 Speaker 4: Yeah. 1188 01:03:48,520 --> 01:03:51,720 Speaker 8: I think a big thing is just him like not 1189 01:03:51,760 --> 01:03:53,440 Speaker 8: being able to recognize. 1190 01:03:52,920 --> 01:03:57,760 Speaker 9: That she has, not validating Opie's yeah. Oh yeah yeah, 1191 01:03:58,240 --> 01:03:58,920 Speaker 9: like the co worker. 1192 01:03:59,200 --> 01:04:01,360 Speaker 8: Yeah, because I feel like there's just a lot of like, 1193 01:04:02,560 --> 01:04:04,000 Speaker 8: I don't know, it just seems like he just doesn't 1194 01:04:04,080 --> 01:04:07,120 Speaker 8: understand emotions at this point, Like maybe he doesn't understand his. 1195 01:04:07,120 --> 01:04:09,080 Speaker 9: Own or the coworker. 1196 01:04:09,280 --> 01:04:11,960 Speaker 8: Yeah, and maybe he because of that, it's hard for 1197 01:04:12,080 --> 01:04:15,080 Speaker 8: him to recognize the coworker's emotions for him, you know, 1198 01:04:15,280 --> 01:04:15,920 Speaker 8: And it's just a. 1199 01:04:16,120 --> 01:04:19,600 Speaker 9: Yeah, I think it could very easily go right into emotionals. 1200 01:04:19,760 --> 01:04:21,640 Speaker 9: I agree yeah, we're on the edge. 1201 01:04:21,800 --> 01:04:23,600 Speaker 6: Let me know if you guys think it's emotional cheating 1202 01:04:23,920 --> 01:04:24,160 Speaker 6: or not. 1203 01:04:24,440 --> 01:04:27,160 Speaker 9: There you go. We already have one emo cheating emo 1204 01:04:27,200 --> 01:04:27,480 Speaker 9: and she. 1205 01:04:27,480 --> 01:04:29,000 Speaker 6: Can't put emotional in. There's too long. 1206 01:04:29,520 --> 01:04:33,720 Speaker 9: I like that up date. We discussed the situation one 1207 01:04:33,760 --> 01:04:36,600 Speaker 9: on one and he agreed that he was very much 1208 01:04:36,760 --> 01:04:39,240 Speaker 9: in the admit in the midst of an emotional affair. 1209 01:04:39,960 --> 01:04:46,439 Speaker 9: Wait what so he's okay, he's aware, he's aware. Okay, there, yep, 1210 01:04:46,960 --> 01:04:48,960 Speaker 9: But Clay that it just felt good to have attention 1211 01:04:49,040 --> 01:04:52,760 Speaker 9: from someone at work. Yes, that's what's been happening. He 1212 01:04:52,920 --> 01:04:55,680 Speaker 9: likes having these conversations with her. Yeah, and he's been 1213 01:04:55,760 --> 01:04:58,720 Speaker 9: so happy since she's been there because he's given her, 1214 01:04:58,800 --> 01:05:02,480 Speaker 9: he's given or she's given in him all these emotions. Yeah, 1215 01:05:02,560 --> 01:05:06,439 Speaker 9: all these all this attention. So he does understand feelings. Well, 1216 01:05:06,480 --> 01:05:08,800 Speaker 9: now we're in emotional cheating. Yeah, there we are. We've 1217 01:05:08,880 --> 01:05:13,520 Speaker 9: gotten total line into it. Foot is uh across the line? 1218 01:05:13,800 --> 01:05:17,200 Speaker 9: You said it might be good to hear perspectives from 1219 01:05:17,280 --> 01:05:19,320 Speaker 9: some of his co workers, so I reached out to 1220 01:05:19,320 --> 01:05:21,320 Speaker 9: two of them and I asked what they thought of 1221 01:05:21,400 --> 01:05:25,040 Speaker 9: the relationship. One co worker said it was obvious what 1222 01:05:25,080 --> 01:05:27,120 Speaker 9: was happening, and they didn't want to get involved because 1223 01:05:27,160 --> 01:05:28,840 Speaker 9: they didn't want to be the one to break the 1224 01:05:28,880 --> 01:05:36,360 Speaker 9: news to me. Oh, if other people, if other people 1225 01:05:36,800 --> 01:05:39,680 Speaker 9: think that it's emotional, like you see it every day, right, 1226 01:05:40,280 --> 01:05:41,120 Speaker 9: thinks you know. 1227 01:05:41,440 --> 01:05:44,400 Speaker 8: I'm confused though, because if he's already saying like, yeah, 1228 01:05:44,400 --> 01:05:46,840 Speaker 8: I emotionally cheated, maybe it'd be good to get the 1229 01:05:46,920 --> 01:05:48,400 Speaker 8: perspective from other coworkers. 1230 01:05:48,440 --> 01:05:50,920 Speaker 9: And then the other coworkers are like, yeaeah, emotionally cheated. 1231 01:05:51,040 --> 01:05:56,080 Speaker 9: What like, what is the reason? Yeah, like I emotionally cheated. 1232 01:05:56,080 --> 01:05:58,479 Speaker 9: But just in case you want for the proof, yeah, 1233 01:05:59,440 --> 01:05:59,880 Speaker 9: there you go. 1234 01:06:00,480 --> 01:06:00,840 Speaker 2: Yeah. 1235 01:06:01,320 --> 01:06:04,480 Speaker 9: Another coworker said that he witnessed some of the conversations 1236 01:06:04,520 --> 01:06:07,080 Speaker 9: and this is just the way people in the office chat. 1237 01:06:07,600 --> 01:06:10,800 Speaker 9: What what kind of office do you get? A restaurant? 1238 01:06:12,000 --> 01:06:15,840 Speaker 9: Is a Restaurant's true, but it sounds like it's in office. Yeah, 1239 01:06:16,040 --> 01:06:16,920 Speaker 9: it doesn't sound right. 1240 01:06:17,480 --> 01:06:18,880 Speaker 6: Hey, how's your sex life going? 1241 01:06:19,400 --> 01:06:20,280 Speaker 4: Yeah? 1242 01:06:20,520 --> 01:06:23,560 Speaker 9: No, I could see that happening at my Starbucks. Yeah, 1243 01:06:23,600 --> 01:06:26,040 Speaker 9: with like younger people. Yeah that is I was already 1244 01:06:26,080 --> 01:06:28,680 Speaker 9: say a twenty four year old yeah, like I feel like, okay, 1245 01:06:28,720 --> 01:06:30,640 Speaker 9: twenty four I could see her talking about that stuff 1246 01:06:30,680 --> 01:06:33,840 Speaker 9: around her other twenty four year old coworkers, but now 1247 01:06:33,960 --> 01:06:38,320 Speaker 9: with your thirty six year old coworker. No, no, no, 1248 01:06:39,920 --> 01:06:42,680 Speaker 9: My fiance clung to that last opinion. He's like, let's 1249 01:06:42,720 --> 01:06:45,400 Speaker 9: ignore the first guy. Let's just look at this one. 1250 01:06:45,400 --> 01:06:48,000 Speaker 9: It's just sound is it's how he's in the office. No, 1251 01:06:48,080 --> 01:06:50,880 Speaker 9: I also told you it was. But actually, let's take 1252 01:06:50,920 --> 01:06:57,880 Speaker 9: about welcome back. Yeah. So we had the emotional affair 1253 01:06:58,080 --> 01:07:01,720 Speaker 9: conversation and started making is again. So we had the 1254 01:07:01,760 --> 01:07:05,400 Speaker 9: emotional fair conversation all over again. He said this is 1255 01:07:05,440 --> 01:07:07,919 Speaker 9: too emotionally charged for him to make a decision right now. 1256 01:07:08,400 --> 01:07:10,640 Speaker 9: I told him that I do not lack that capacity. 1257 01:07:10,760 --> 01:07:14,040 Speaker 9: So he gets twenty four hours to sort out his 1258 01:07:14,120 --> 01:07:17,080 Speaker 9: priorities and have a heart to heart with me. Otherwise 1259 01:07:17,120 --> 01:07:20,320 Speaker 9: he can go live with his work wife. Period. And 1260 01:07:20,360 --> 01:07:22,480 Speaker 9: there's an update. But yeah, I think that's. 1261 01:07:22,560 --> 01:07:22,760 Speaker 4: Yeah. 1262 01:07:23,400 --> 01:07:25,680 Speaker 9: She's like, I don't care man, standing her ground. I 1263 01:07:25,720 --> 01:07:27,600 Speaker 9: love that He's like, I don't have the emotional capacity 1264 01:07:27,600 --> 01:07:32,360 Speaker 9: for this, and she's like, why do is figure it out? Yeah? Yeah, 1265 01:07:32,440 --> 01:07:36,520 Speaker 9: she's handling it well, but it really sucks. He's definitely 1266 01:07:36,640 --> 01:07:38,120 Speaker 9: like the fact that he said he was having an 1267 01:07:38,120 --> 01:07:39,680 Speaker 9: emotional afair and then when I'm. 1268 01:07:39,560 --> 01:07:42,520 Speaker 8: So confused about that because he's he said it, but 1269 01:07:42,600 --> 01:07:44,720 Speaker 8: now he's like trying to prove it wrong. 1270 01:07:44,800 --> 01:07:48,480 Speaker 9: Yeah, he's like, I know I admitted guilt. Yeah, but 1271 01:07:49,040 --> 01:07:53,400 Speaker 9: let's have the jury decide I'm wrong. Maybe I don't know, 1272 01:07:53,520 --> 01:07:56,080 Speaker 9: Maybe I don't know. Yeah, this is a stupid little 1273 01:07:56,200 --> 01:08:00,440 Speaker 9: man and just a man. Sophia Cologne says to emotionally 1274 01:08:00,520 --> 01:08:03,840 Speaker 9: charged for him, Boy, you cheated. Yeah. Yeah, he's like 1275 01:08:04,000 --> 01:08:09,680 Speaker 9: emotionally cheated too. Emotionally your emotions man, Yeah, literally, No, 1276 01:08:09,800 --> 01:08:12,480 Speaker 9: It's so funny that he's like for me to figure, 1277 01:08:12,720 --> 01:08:15,120 Speaker 9: like to make a decision. What decision are you making? 1278 01:08:15,520 --> 01:08:17,479 Speaker 9: This is all on op. She gets to decide whether 1279 01:08:17,520 --> 01:08:21,040 Speaker 9: or not she's gonna leave you? Yeah, what like, are 1280 01:08:21,040 --> 01:08:23,920 Speaker 9: we still trying to decide if it's emotional? Yeah, that's 1281 01:08:23,960 --> 01:08:26,679 Speaker 9: what he was like to make a decision right now, 1282 01:08:26,760 --> 01:08:29,599 Speaker 9: whether or not. Yeah, it's like I'm really not sure. 1283 01:08:29,960 --> 01:08:32,280 Speaker 9: I'm really not sure. Oh my gosh. But there is 1284 01:08:32,320 --> 01:08:35,800 Speaker 9: an update. I sent him this post while he was 1285 01:08:35,840 --> 01:08:39,200 Speaker 9: at work. He read the comments and took them to heart. 1286 01:08:39,960 --> 01:08:43,400 Speaker 9: My fiance came home from work with flowers, crying heavily. 1287 01:08:43,800 --> 01:08:47,120 Speaker 9: Maybe he's just an emotional guy. I told him that 1288 01:08:47,160 --> 01:08:49,479 Speaker 9: this woman would try to speak with him behind my back, 1289 01:08:49,600 --> 01:08:55,320 Speaker 9: and she did. We try to speak with him. Yeah, 1290 01:08:55,360 --> 01:08:57,760 Speaker 9: he realized everything I told him and what he read 1291 01:08:57,800 --> 01:09:01,400 Speaker 9: here was true. He apologized for not acknowledging my feelings. 1292 01:09:01,479 --> 01:09:04,000 Speaker 9: He said that I'm the greatest thing that had happened 1293 01:09:04,000 --> 01:09:06,439 Speaker 9: to him and he doesn't want to lose me over 1294 01:09:06,479 --> 01:09:09,719 Speaker 9: the situation. He will be calling a therapist next week 1295 01:09:09,800 --> 01:09:12,760 Speaker 9: for him to begin private sessions. We will move to 1296 01:09:12,840 --> 01:09:15,400 Speaker 9: couple's therapy from that point. We haven't set a date 1297 01:09:15,439 --> 01:09:18,080 Speaker 9: for the wedding, so we will continue the engagement without 1298 01:09:18,160 --> 01:09:23,479 Speaker 9: rushing anything. By the way, you should rush and join 1299 01:09:23,560 --> 01:09:25,720 Speaker 9: our lives every week to at three pm PST. Just 1300 01:09:25,760 --> 01:09:32,000 Speaker 9: tap her profile. Beautiful, beautiful. Thank you so much everyone 1301 01:09:32,040 --> 01:09:34,719 Speaker 9: for your advice. It was I was able to feel 1302 01:09:34,720 --> 01:09:37,240 Speaker 9: support from this community that I wasn't getting elsewhere. I 1303 01:09:37,280 --> 01:09:40,439 Speaker 9: am eternally grateful and I have hope that he will 1304 01:09:40,479 --> 01:09:45,639 Speaker 9: be able to turn this situation around. I think there 1305 01:09:45,720 --> 01:09:49,160 Speaker 9: is a chance, I agree with therapy that he could 1306 01:09:49,200 --> 01:09:52,080 Speaker 9: turn the situation around. Yes, but do not get married 1307 01:09:53,120 --> 01:09:55,479 Speaker 9: like a Ley's right now. Yeah, oh yeah, not right now. 1308 01:09:55,520 --> 01:09:57,400 Speaker 9: Because we've had a lot of stories where like people 1309 01:09:57,479 --> 01:10:01,960 Speaker 9: go through these big, like you know, the situation, big 1310 01:10:02,000 --> 01:10:04,320 Speaker 9: problems in the relationship, and then they just get married 1311 01:10:04,360 --> 01:10:06,599 Speaker 9: and they're like, oh, it's banding. We'll fix it. It'll 1312 01:10:06,600 --> 01:10:12,519 Speaker 9: fix it. But I definitely definitely push it far for sure, 1313 01:10:12,800 --> 01:10:15,679 Speaker 9: far off. Figure out your problem. Yeah, let it settle, 1314 01:10:15,920 --> 01:10:19,040 Speaker 9: live without problems again. Yeah, and then maybe think about 1315 01:10:19,080 --> 01:10:23,320 Speaker 9: it again. And then once you're happy and he's gone 1316 01:10:23,320 --> 01:10:25,680 Speaker 9: to therapy for his emotions. 1317 01:10:26,040 --> 01:10:29,360 Speaker 6: Sam's golden rule is stay together without two without a 1318 01:10:29,360 --> 01:10:31,120 Speaker 6: conversation breaking up for two years. 1319 01:10:31,280 --> 01:10:34,240 Speaker 9: Yeah, before getting before getting married, because marriage is a 1320 01:10:34,320 --> 01:10:35,120 Speaker 9: huge commitment. 1321 01:10:35,320 --> 01:10:35,519 Speaker 4: Yeah. 1322 01:10:35,520 --> 01:10:39,559 Speaker 9: Absolutely, that makes a lot of sense. Yeah, yeay, but 1323 01:10:39,640 --> 01:10:43,400 Speaker 9: that is the end of that story and I have 1324 01:10:43,479 --> 01:10:46,519 Speaker 9: this stream. But before we end Sebastian Satching, thank you 1325 01:10:46,520 --> 01:10:50,120 Speaker 9: for the eleven seventy one the mad We need thirty 1326 01:10:50,120 --> 01:10:53,040 Speaker 9: more minutes. 1327 01:10:53,200 --> 01:10:56,680 Speaker 6: Also, thank you making up as you go for the 1328 01:10:57,560 --> 01:10:58,639 Speaker 6: uh sticker. 1329 01:10:58,840 --> 01:10:59,599 Speaker 4: Thank you for the sticker. 1330 01:10:59,720 --> 01:11:02,280 Speaker 9: Yeah, I wish we could like know what the sippers 1331 01:11:02,280 --> 01:11:02,600 Speaker 9: look like. 1332 01:11:02,720 --> 01:11:05,120 Speaker 6: Yeah, this was pretty cool. It looks like this. 1333 01:11:06,960 --> 01:11:10,719 Speaker 9: Oh, it's like like little glasses. It's like a glasses 1334 01:11:10,760 --> 01:11:14,120 Speaker 9: guy holding a bunch of glasses. It's like the glasses 1335 01:11:14,160 --> 01:11:17,240 Speaker 9: are falling on him. Oh, I see, I like it. 1336 01:11:17,479 --> 01:11:19,559 Speaker 9: I like he seems like a cool guy. He's like 1337 01:11:19,560 --> 01:11:21,519 Speaker 9: a cool guy. He wouldn't emotionally cheat on you. He 1338 01:11:21,560 --> 01:11:24,519 Speaker 9: would not, or you wouldn't see it because he has 1339 01:11:24,560 --> 01:11:28,760 Speaker 9: glasses on, no emotions. But that is the end of 1340 01:11:28,800 --> 01:11:34,240 Speaker 9: this stream, So if you love us, make sure to subscribe. 1341 01:11:34,320 --> 01:11:36,840 Speaker 9: We love you and Santa mar