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Speaker 1: Welcome back all the smoke Las Vegas Players era college

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Speaker 1: basketball Tournament. Shout out to the MGM and Park MGM

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Speaker 1: for having us. But we decided to throw a little

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Speaker 1: curveball at y'all, or maybe not a curveball, a long ball,

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Speaker 1: an audible. There you go down. I'll Mary Hall Mary.

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Speaker 1: That'll work too. Man. Someone I grew up idolizing one

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Speaker 1: of my favorites football players. I wore the number twelve

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Speaker 1: and initially wanted to be quarterback because of him, but

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Speaker 1: I found out I was a better receiver than quarterback.

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Speaker 1: I actually got a chance to go watch him preach

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Speaker 1: Sunday and kind of seal the deal here as well. Man,

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Speaker 1: welcome to the show, the great Randall Cunningham.

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Speaker 2: Thank you, brother.

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Speaker 1: I appreciate you, man, I appreciate you. I mean to

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Speaker 1: be able to sit next to you. Know, this is

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Speaker 1: probably the perks of what we do is you know,

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Speaker 1: we get a chance to interview some amazing people. But

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Speaker 1: this is special for me because again, you were one

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Speaker 1: of mine. You and Jerry Rice were my two favorite

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Speaker 1: players growing up, and to be sitting here with you

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Speaker 1: today is a treat. I want to read it. A

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Speaker 1: comment that we found online. That was really praising you said,

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Speaker 1: Randall set the standard for all black quarterbacks who were

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Speaker 1: not getting drafted up until him. Not McNabb, not Vic,

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Speaker 1: not Lamar. It was Randall cutting him. When you sit

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Speaker 1: back and look at your career, do you understand now

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Speaker 1: how important you were and the and the ceilings you

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Speaker 2: No, I don't. And once again, thanks for having me

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Speaker 2: on the show. I've seen you guys in. Yeah, you

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Speaker 2: guys got it going up. I don't really do podcasts,

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Speaker 2: so you know, I'm always busy at church. So it's

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Speaker 2: like to be able to sit here, it's an honor,

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Speaker 2: it's my honor.

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Speaker 1: We appreciate that.

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Speaker 2: And are you guys doing great things? No, I don't.

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Speaker 2: And I don't look back and think that I deserve

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Speaker 2: any credit in a form of humility. I'm just so

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Speaker 2: grateful that these guys are getting the opportunity. I saw

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Speaker 2: a statistic recently that they were speaking about the African

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Speaker 2: American quarterbacks who are starting in the NFL now, and

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Speaker 2: it was half of the league, and I just I

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Speaker 2: It wasn't as dark and gloomy as maybe would Vince

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Speaker 2: Evans or Doug Williams or Warren or Shaq went through

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Speaker 2: back in the day. But I did have my experience

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Speaker 2: of people who didn't like me because of my skin color.

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Speaker 1: How did you deal with that? Again, this is you know,

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Speaker 1: talent Asi. You're one of the most dynamic quarterbacks in

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Speaker 1: standards some people held you to.

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Speaker 2: You know, I kind of I went through a lot

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Speaker 2: when I was a kid being in Santa Barbara, California,

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Speaker 2: that didn't look like me. But how did I handle it?

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Speaker 2: When I first was drafted to the Philadelphia Eagles, I

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Speaker 2: And immediately I had to defer or stay away from

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Speaker 2: I didn't want to deal with that. I just wanted

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Speaker 1: Being the Trailblazers that you are.

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Speaker 3: Do you think you were the first duel threat quarterback

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Speaker 3: or who was before you that you looked as somebody

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Speaker 2: Everybody in you know, forty fifty sixty years old. We

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Speaker 2: I was just a skinny dude. And they're wondering. They

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Speaker 2: Robins said, yeah, I'm like, no, that's not me. I'm like,

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm going to ask you about two guys. Give

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Speaker 2: Him the treatment and everything he's going through. Whoo, that's

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Speaker 2: a lot. And I was so happy he got that

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Speaker 2: I loved that kid. Ever met him before, but I

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Speaker 2: And I'm telling you, once he gets the real opportunity

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Speaker 2: saw in college, most dynamic player, you know, playing quarterback.

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Speaker 1: Right.

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Speaker 2: The kid is good. He's really good. But I mean

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Speaker 1: He's embracing.

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Speaker 2: Really, I watch his interviews and I'm like, yeah, I

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I think obviously too. With him. It's for some

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Speaker 1: quarterbacks it's okay to be confident, but his confidence is

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Speaker 1: he's no, he's's put the work in. As you said,

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Speaker 1: he's media I mean, he's built for this. Yeah, he's

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Speaker 2: Yeah. Lamar Jackson, Oh my god, when he was up

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Speaker 2: for the Heisman, I was calling him. I think I

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Speaker 2: and who was gonna win the Heisman? Love him. I

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Speaker 2: think he's possibly the greatest quarterback ever to play. I mean,

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Speaker 2: most talented quarterback in the history of sports. I don't

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Speaker 2: care if it's rugby, football, whatever it may be. This

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Speaker 2: games and see him, and I don't go to football games,

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Speaker 2: but I'll go see him. Yeah, at any point in time,

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Speaker 2: he could change the game and the excitement and just

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Speaker 2: knowing that at any point in time he might run

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Speaker 2: five and the guys. You know, he's just that talented.

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Speaker 3: When you're evaluating a quarterback, what's one of the most

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Speaker 2: Well, they're all smart you can't play quarterback unless you're

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Speaker 2: very smart. But I look at their.

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Speaker 1: Points moved me to receive safety.

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Speaker 2: You can't get out there because there's no faking it

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Speaker 2: at the quarterback position. You're gonna get hit. You're gonna

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Speaker 2: have to make precise, split second decisions, so you have

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Speaker 2: amazing players.

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Speaker 1: Let's take it back a little bit. Your older brother, Sam,

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Speaker 1: all American fullback at Southern California, went on to play

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Speaker 1: six years. What did you pick up from him to

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Speaker 2: Get teary eyed because he passed away a few years ago.

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Speaker 2: But he lived I think to about seventy, which was

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Speaker 2: good because my father passed away at fifty six. But

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Speaker 2: I remember when I was in high school, my junior

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Speaker 2: I asked him a question. I proposed this question, I said,

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Speaker 2: That gave me great confidence. He said, but you have

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Speaker 2: staying after practice and just really taking it to the

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Speaker 2: next level. And we were blessed that year. I think

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Speaker 2: we went thirteen and one. We got beat by the

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Speaker 2: Great Long Beach PAULI you know they're still yeah, yeah,

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Speaker 2: but it was it was it was just him sewing

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Speaker 2: a seed, saying, you need to be a leader. If

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Speaker 2: the NFL.

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Speaker 3: You were so called at UNLV that your jersey was

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Speaker 3: retired while you were still playing.

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Speaker 1: We talked about that.

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Speaker 2: That was a blessing. I didn't know any of that

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Speaker 2: was going to happen. I didn't know that I was

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Speaker 2: doing well enough to be honored like that. But I

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Speaker 2: had a great group of guys on the team, guys

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Speaker 2: from California, a lot of California kids.

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Speaker 1: You play with somebody that everybody knows. Oh yeah, night

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Speaker 1: he played with Mary Knight.

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Speaker 2: My brother was marrying back we were college. We do

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Speaker 2: and shug, but he was marrying with us.

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Speaker 1: How was he? What was he like back then?

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Speaker 2: He was cool?

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Speaker 1: Was it?

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Speaker 2: I mean? And you know, every time I saw him

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Speaker 2: over the years. I saw him the night that the

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Speaker 2: Tupac got shot, hugged him into everything. You know, he

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Speaker 2: was yoked up too. It was big, but it was

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Speaker 2: like just like college.

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Speaker 1: You know.

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Speaker 2: It was nothing crazy or anything like that. It's just

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Speaker 2: In the nineteen eighties, we had a dynamic basketball team

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Speaker 1: One of your mostmable memorable boxing matches, you recall.

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Speaker 2: Yep, And I'm almost I almost don't want to share it.

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Speaker 1: Because appreciate you guys.

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Speaker 2: Keep it real. My first year of college, I was

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Speaker 2: Basketball wise, I can't give you the answer, but we

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Speaker 2: He cares about not only the school but Las Vegas,

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Speaker 2: Our players on the team are great. We're not just

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Speaker 2: But when I was young, I played every sport football, basketball, baseball,

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Speaker 1: I feel like, and I love that you touched on this,

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Speaker 1: It's in your blood.

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Speaker 2: to my answer machine and Lynz Styles, it's one of

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Speaker 2: the directors. He says, random Conningham, this is Lynn Styles

435
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Speaker 2: and the Philadelphia Eagles. We've drafted you the seventh pick

436
00:20:55,840 --> 00:20:58,960
Speaker 2: or ninth pick overall in the second round, and you're

437
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Speaker 2: going to be an ego. So G me a call

438
00:21:01,720 --> 00:21:04,720
Speaker 2: and I was like, wow, that's deep. I really And

439
00:21:04,800 --> 00:21:11,480
Speaker 2: so I made the call, and uh yeah, I made

440
00:21:11,520 --> 00:21:14,280
Speaker 2: the call. And sure enough, you know, I went there

441
00:21:14,880 --> 00:21:18,480
Speaker 2: and I had already signed with the USFL. I signed

442
00:21:18,480 --> 00:21:21,600
Speaker 2: a you know, a three million dollar deal for five

443
00:21:21,680 --> 00:21:23,879
Speaker 2: years with the USFL, and they didn't know about it.

444
00:21:23,880 --> 00:21:25,600
Speaker 2: Because I was like, had a little backup plan.

445
00:21:25,960 --> 00:21:28,520
Speaker 1: Oh so you did that before the NFL draft even happened.

446
00:21:29,000 --> 00:21:30,000
Speaker 1: I talked to us about that.

447
00:21:30,040 --> 00:21:33,000
Speaker 2: I liked that mister Bassett was with the Tampa Bay

448
00:21:33,119 --> 00:21:36,560
Speaker 2: Bandits and my agent was Jim Steiner at that time,

449
00:21:36,680 --> 00:21:39,000
Speaker 2: and Jim said, look, we got assured that you're going to,

450
00:21:39,280 --> 00:21:40,560
Speaker 2: you know, be able to take care of your family

451
00:21:40,560 --> 00:21:43,919
Speaker 2: in the future. So here's a contract, and uh, you know,

452
00:21:43,960 --> 00:21:45,439
Speaker 2: we don't know what's gonna happen with the NFL. You

453
00:21:45,440 --> 00:21:47,800
Speaker 2: should be drafting the second or third round. He's just

454
00:21:47,800 --> 00:21:50,560
Speaker 2: be signed this contract. So I inked it. And uh

455
00:21:50,640 --> 00:21:54,520
Speaker 2: when the owner, Norman Brahman found out, we will never

456
00:21:54,680 --> 00:21:57,160
Speaker 2: sign you to a contract here with the Philadelphia Goals,

457
00:21:57,920 --> 00:22:00,399
Speaker 2: and I really didn't pay attention to it because I

458
00:22:00,400 --> 00:22:04,399
Speaker 2: already had a carntract. But then the league folded before

459
00:22:04,960 --> 00:22:07,679
Speaker 2: and so there was litigation in all the nonsense. But

460
00:22:08,160 --> 00:22:09,280
Speaker 2: ended up playing for Philly.

461
00:22:09,760 --> 00:22:13,159
Speaker 1: So that was I don't really know money, money, what

462
00:22:13,520 --> 00:22:15,880
Speaker 1: it was like back then, but three million dollars oh

463
00:22:15,880 --> 00:22:17,119
Speaker 1: at the gate was a monster.

464
00:22:17,240 --> 00:22:19,800
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, yeah, it was. There were big contracts. Steve

465
00:22:19,840 --> 00:22:21,800
Speaker 2: Young had signed a forty million dollars deal with the

466
00:22:21,920 --> 00:22:24,840
Speaker 2: l Express or someone like that. Herschel Walker was getting

467
00:22:25,160 --> 00:22:27,760
Speaker 2: getting busy, and it was, but the league.

468
00:22:27,520 --> 00:22:29,840
Speaker 1: Folded so it didn't make a difference.

469
00:22:29,480 --> 00:22:31,280
Speaker 2: And we all ended up back in the NFL.

470
00:22:31,640 --> 00:22:36,719
Speaker 1: Or any NFL Any interesting or crazy pre draft questions

471
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Speaker 1: that you got.

472
00:22:38,000 --> 00:22:40,880
Speaker 2: You know, people were asking me, do you think you'll

473
00:22:40,920 --> 00:22:46,240
Speaker 2: get drafted? Like, why won't I get drafted? The statistics

474
00:22:46,359 --> 00:22:50,520
Speaker 2: show I've got twenty five hundred each each year. The

475
00:22:50,560 --> 00:22:52,840
Speaker 2: only people had done that back then had thrown for

476
00:22:52,840 --> 00:22:55,679
Speaker 2: twenty five hundred yards were John Lway and myself and

477
00:22:55,720 --> 00:22:58,240
Speaker 2: Doug Flutie. So I'm figuring, yeah, it probably should be

478
00:22:58,320 --> 00:22:58,920
Speaker 2: in the NFL.

479
00:22:59,080 --> 00:23:02,080
Speaker 1: Why not. You shared a big city with some big

480
00:23:02,200 --> 00:23:08,280
Speaker 1: names Mosas Malone, doctor J, Charles Barkley. Any fun stories

481
00:23:08,280 --> 00:23:12,359
Speaker 1: before you decided to really lock in you have.

482
00:23:13,520 --> 00:23:15,320
Speaker 2: I got to hang out with Barkley. He was a

483
00:23:15,320 --> 00:23:17,720
Speaker 2: great dude. I met doctor J, and I was like, man,

484
00:23:17,720 --> 00:23:24,520
Speaker 2: that's doctor J. Teddy Pendercash lived in like Philly, Mike

485
00:23:24,560 --> 00:23:27,840
Speaker 2: Schmidt and all these guys ron he style. I was

486
00:23:27,920 --> 00:23:31,280
Speaker 2: just another guy in town, you know. But it was

487
00:23:31,320 --> 00:23:34,160
Speaker 2: like really amazing to be in the fifth largest city

488
00:23:34,200 --> 00:23:38,440
Speaker 2: in the United States and be able to walk out

489
00:23:38,480 --> 00:23:42,040
Speaker 2: of the locker room and we had the same stadium

490
00:23:42,160 --> 00:23:45,120
Speaker 2: and just go watch the baseball game, you know, Shilling

491
00:23:45,720 --> 00:23:48,840
Speaker 2: doing his thing and watching all these guys playing. And

492
00:23:49,040 --> 00:23:52,080
Speaker 2: it was really really amazing. And you know, now Vegas

493
00:23:52,200 --> 00:23:54,800
Speaker 2: is becoming like that. But it was different being in

494
00:23:54,840 --> 00:24:00,680
Speaker 2: Philadelphia because the people are sports enthusiasts.

495
00:24:00,200 --> 00:24:02,119
Speaker 1: They know their sports. Oh my god, how long did

496
00:24:02,160 --> 00:24:04,159
Speaker 1: it take for you to win over the fans?

497
00:24:04,320 --> 00:24:06,879
Speaker 2: You know, they didn't know who I was, and I

498
00:24:06,880 --> 00:24:09,040
Speaker 2: didn't know who I was. But when I played in

499
00:24:09,040 --> 00:24:12,240
Speaker 2: the preseason my first year, I ran for one hundred

500
00:24:12,320 --> 00:24:14,080
Speaker 2: yards or something like that, and They're going like, who

501
00:24:14,160 --> 00:24:16,600
Speaker 2: is this kid? And they would just say, that's Sam

502
00:24:16,640 --> 00:24:19,320
Speaker 2: Bam Cunningham's little brother Will. Okay, yeah, but who is

503
00:24:19,359 --> 00:24:22,639
Speaker 2: the kid? We know who Sam is. And so I

504
00:24:22,720 --> 00:24:25,359
Speaker 2: was telling my daughter this, My little daughter, Sophia, thirteen

505
00:24:25,400 --> 00:24:28,400
Speaker 2: years old, just I said to her, you know, Sophia,

506
00:24:29,640 --> 00:24:32,440
Speaker 2: I was thinking I wasn't gonna play my first year.

507
00:24:32,520 --> 00:24:34,440
Speaker 2: I'm like, Ron Jawissey is the quarterback. I got to

508
00:24:34,480 --> 00:24:36,119
Speaker 2: sit over here for about two or three years, and

509
00:24:36,200 --> 00:24:39,200
Speaker 2: he's probably going to retire and then I'll be ready

510
00:24:39,200 --> 00:24:42,880
Speaker 2: to play. And I said, but Sophia. The first game

511
00:24:42,920 --> 00:24:45,560
Speaker 2: we went to play the Giants and we hadn't passed

512
00:24:45,560 --> 00:24:49,399
Speaker 2: the fifty yard line, and I said, man.

513
00:24:49,359 --> 00:24:49,720
Speaker 1: Let's go.

514
00:24:50,240 --> 00:24:53,000
Speaker 2: Let's got you know, I'm just rooting Jaworski on, handing

515
00:24:53,040 --> 00:24:55,639
Speaker 2: them water, doing everything I can. Then and coach Marchha

516
00:24:55,640 --> 00:25:01,280
Speaker 2: brought to said warm up. I knew he wasn't talking

517
00:25:01,280 --> 00:25:05,320
Speaker 2: to me. In my mind warm up. I was content,

518
00:25:05,480 --> 00:25:08,080
Speaker 2: I'm going to sit for two or three years. And

519
00:25:08,119 --> 00:25:11,919
Speaker 2: I'm like, warm up, who warm your arm up? And

520
00:25:12,000 --> 00:25:13,840
Speaker 2: so I started warming up, and I'm like, you know,

521
00:25:14,080 --> 00:25:16,600
Speaker 2: like this, I get in the game, I get ready

522
00:25:16,600 --> 00:25:18,600
Speaker 2: to put my hands under there, and I look over

523
00:25:18,640 --> 00:25:24,480
Speaker 2: there and there's, yeah, Carl Banks, LT's over there, Carson Bert.

524
00:25:24,720 --> 00:25:27,280
Speaker 2: And I'm like, man, I'm in the NFL. I think

525
00:25:27,320 --> 00:25:30,359
Speaker 2: I didn't get to snap that play, but it was

526
00:25:31,600 --> 00:25:34,320
Speaker 2: it was it was it was something, you know, that

527
00:25:34,480 --> 00:25:39,000
Speaker 2: was something she had froze. I was, yeah, I was

528
00:25:39,000 --> 00:25:40,080
Speaker 2: froze for a few games.

529
00:25:41,080 --> 00:25:42,560
Speaker 1: When did how long do you feel like it took

530
00:25:42,560 --> 00:25:44,560
Speaker 1: you to kind of get your feet under you, because

531
00:25:44,560 --> 00:25:46,000
Speaker 1: I mean, this is right out the gates.

532
00:25:46,280 --> 00:25:48,000
Speaker 2: The next week, I think it was the next week,

533
00:25:48,000 --> 00:25:51,440
Speaker 2: we went to Washington and I'm like, oh god, and

534
00:25:51,640 --> 00:25:55,199
Speaker 2: the Jeworski kept telling me. He said, look, man, the

535
00:25:55,280 --> 00:25:58,880
Speaker 2: regular season is not the same as the preseason. Take

536
00:25:58,880 --> 00:26:01,800
Speaker 2: it up about seven knots. And I didn't understand that.

537
00:26:02,119 --> 00:26:03,840
Speaker 2: And I went in the game. They condensed it from

538
00:26:03,920 --> 00:26:06,840
Speaker 2: about ninety plays to about fifteen or twenty plays for

539
00:26:06,960 --> 00:26:10,000
Speaker 2: me so that I can get it down. And we

540
00:26:10,040 --> 00:26:12,520
Speaker 2: went down there and I just remember, I don't think

541
00:26:12,520 --> 00:26:14,800
Speaker 2: I was completing passes. I might have been thrown interceptions.

542
00:26:14,840 --> 00:26:19,000
Speaker 2: But I threw a ball to Ernest and he took

543
00:26:19,040 --> 00:26:21,000
Speaker 2: it to the house and we ended up winning the

544
00:26:21,040 --> 00:26:23,399
Speaker 2: game in Washington. We hadn't beaten the Redskins in Washington

545
00:26:23,400 --> 00:26:25,400
Speaker 2: and we don't know how many years. So now they're

546
00:26:25,440 --> 00:26:27,000
Speaker 2: patting me on the back and I'm supposed to be

547
00:26:27,080 --> 00:26:29,960
Speaker 2: someone and I don't have a clue. Go to the

548
00:26:30,000 --> 00:26:32,960
Speaker 2: next game. I get hurt. My thumb came out, was

549
00:26:33,000 --> 00:26:37,639
Speaker 2: way over here. I'm coming off like this, yeah, my thumb.

550
00:26:37,640 --> 00:26:38,919
Speaker 2: And then I went like that and went back in.

551
00:26:39,000 --> 00:26:40,520
Speaker 2: I said, oh, I'm good, and I went back in

552
00:26:40,560 --> 00:26:42,719
Speaker 2: the game. That's kind of yess, how crazy you got

553
00:26:42,760 --> 00:26:45,280
Speaker 2: to be in the NFL. You can't You just didn't

554
00:26:45,280 --> 00:26:48,920
Speaker 2: sell it. Did after the game. So I was out

555
00:26:48,960 --> 00:26:51,840
Speaker 2: the next week and the week after, and Joworski went

556
00:26:51,880 --> 00:26:54,639
Speaker 2: in there and got busy on them. And it's just

557
00:26:54,760 --> 00:26:55,760
Speaker 2: it was a learning curve.

558
00:26:55,840 --> 00:26:56,520
Speaker 1: It was. It was.

559
00:26:56,640 --> 00:26:59,760
Speaker 2: It was difficult, and so I think I really began

560
00:26:59,840 --> 00:27:04,520
Speaker 2: to feel it probably about my third year, you know, like, Okay,

561
00:27:04,600 --> 00:27:05,080
Speaker 2: I could do.

562
00:27:05,040 --> 00:27:07,280
Speaker 1: This, the game slowing down a little bit. Yeah.

563
00:27:07,359 --> 00:27:09,679
Speaker 2: And the other thing was the trust factor of the

564
00:27:09,720 --> 00:27:13,640
Speaker 2: coaches trusting me. They would limit me and like, well,

565
00:27:14,320 --> 00:27:17,040
Speaker 2: let's just not have him thrown interceptions because you know,

566
00:27:17,080 --> 00:27:18,840
Speaker 2: when you're a young kid, you're just gonna fire that

567
00:27:18,880 --> 00:27:22,320
Speaker 2: thing in there. But they taught me the game, you know,

568
00:27:22,359 --> 00:27:25,320
Speaker 2: and as I learned the game, it was like, Okay,

569
00:27:25,320 --> 00:27:26,639
Speaker 2: it did slow down. You know.

570
00:27:26,720 --> 00:27:30,480
Speaker 1: You guys know, Buddy Ryan was such a heavy, defensive

571
00:27:30,520 --> 00:27:34,480
Speaker 1: minded coach. How did you guys get along? Obviously your

572
00:27:34,520 --> 00:27:37,240
Speaker 1: style is they've seen it before, but I don't think

573
00:27:37,280 --> 00:27:41,080
Speaker 1: to the level of athleticism and arm strength that you

574
00:27:41,200 --> 00:27:43,199
Speaker 1: came into the game with. How did how did how

575
00:27:43,200 --> 00:27:44,639
Speaker 1: did that dynamic go with him?

576
00:27:44,680 --> 00:27:48,560
Speaker 2: Buddy was someone there was no reason for anyone to

577
00:27:48,600 --> 00:27:52,160
Speaker 2: try to figure him out. Because he was Buddy Ryan.

578
00:27:52,760 --> 00:27:54,399
Speaker 2: He was going to do what he wanted to do,

579
00:27:54,480 --> 00:27:56,359
Speaker 2: and he was always going to do his way. But

580
00:27:56,480 --> 00:27:58,960
Speaker 2: he loved us as players, which is what won us over.

581
00:27:59,480 --> 00:28:02,320
Speaker 2: You know, he was a players coach, and so you

582
00:28:02,359 --> 00:28:04,639
Speaker 2: would do whatever you had to do for him, and

583
00:28:04,680 --> 00:28:08,719
Speaker 2: he wanted bar room brawlers, and so we all became

584
00:28:08,960 --> 00:28:13,200
Speaker 2: those who took on his orror and so we were

585
00:28:13,320 --> 00:28:16,480
Speaker 2: just kind of almost like lunatics on the football field.

586
00:28:16,800 --> 00:28:19,679
Speaker 2: And so when teams played us, some of them were

587
00:28:19,720 --> 00:28:22,000
Speaker 2: a little concerned, like they might knock you, take your

588
00:28:22,080 --> 00:28:24,960
Speaker 2: knees out, they might try to rip your head off,

589
00:28:24,960 --> 00:28:27,479
Speaker 2: and that's kind of crazily, that's really who we were

590
00:28:27,520 --> 00:28:29,639
Speaker 2: as a team. We didn't care because we took on

591
00:28:29,680 --> 00:28:34,080
Speaker 2: his personality. But the main thing that I loved about

592
00:28:34,080 --> 00:28:36,840
Speaker 2: Buddy Ryan is that he saw my talent and he says, look,

593
00:28:38,200 --> 00:28:40,600
Speaker 2: I'm going to use you for what you like to

594
00:28:40,640 --> 00:28:43,280
Speaker 2: do and what you're great at, and we'll work on

595
00:28:43,320 --> 00:28:46,080
Speaker 2: the things that you're not good at. And I was like, wow,

596
00:28:46,120 --> 00:28:48,960
Speaker 2: that's patience. And so he said, make five big plays

597
00:28:48,960 --> 00:28:50,640
Speaker 2: and we'll win the game. Defense to do their job,

598
00:28:51,960 --> 00:28:54,560
Speaker 2: that's what he would say, and I'm like, okay, you

599
00:28:54,600 --> 00:28:57,200
Speaker 2: could do that, and we believed it, and we went

600
00:28:57,200 --> 00:28:58,719
Speaker 2: out and we would go ten and six and ten

601
00:28:58,760 --> 00:29:01,120
Speaker 2: and six, eleven and five, but we didn't win in

602
00:29:01,160 --> 00:29:05,000
Speaker 2: the playoffs. But he was a father figure to all

603
00:29:05,040 --> 00:29:08,680
Speaker 2: of us. I remember he ran us so bad, and

604
00:29:08,720 --> 00:29:10,160
Speaker 2: I was just like I had to go pick up

605
00:29:10,160 --> 00:29:12,760
Speaker 2: the game plan or my check, and I'm like, man,

606
00:29:12,760 --> 00:29:15,200
Speaker 2: I don't want to see him, you know, and you

607
00:29:15,240 --> 00:29:16,520
Speaker 2: know if you went by him, he was going to

608
00:29:16,600 --> 00:29:17,280
Speaker 2: say something to you.

609
00:29:17,360 --> 00:29:19,280
Speaker 1: Hold on. So the coach used to hand the game check.

610
00:29:19,320 --> 00:29:21,080
Speaker 1: I said, no to the office.

611
00:29:21,920 --> 00:29:28,680
Speaker 2: Yeah, so so.

612
00:29:24,080 --> 00:29:28,960
Speaker 3: If I got to pay you off your performance today.

613
00:29:31,280 --> 00:29:33,320
Speaker 2: So I went through there and I'm trying to just

614
00:29:33,680 --> 00:29:35,640
Speaker 2: you know, the old you walk by. Some of you

615
00:29:35,680 --> 00:29:37,440
Speaker 2: close your eyes so you don't see him, but they

616
00:29:37,520 --> 00:29:41,920
Speaker 2: see you. I tried that, and he said twelve, come

617
00:29:41,960 --> 00:29:44,320
Speaker 2: in here, and I'm like, oh man, I'm just like, man,

618
00:29:44,840 --> 00:29:46,840
Speaker 2: I just want to go home, study in my place.

619
00:29:47,560 --> 00:29:50,800
Speaker 2: He says, hey, kids, you're doing a great job. He

620
00:29:51,680 --> 00:29:55,800
Speaker 2: without saying I love you, he expressed it. And I'm

621
00:29:55,840 --> 00:29:58,520
Speaker 2: like sitting there like, man, this guy is a real deal.

622
00:29:59,400 --> 00:30:01,440
Speaker 2: And I walked out of his office and I'm saying, man,

623
00:30:02,120 --> 00:30:04,720
Speaker 2: I love that man. You know, that's how I really

624
00:30:04,760 --> 00:30:07,840
Speaker 2: felt it was like he cares. He doesn't care if

625
00:30:07,880 --> 00:30:09,760
Speaker 2: you're in a bad mood, you don't like him, He's

626
00:30:09,760 --> 00:30:11,200
Speaker 2: going to call you and be the same guy all

627
00:30:11,240 --> 00:30:13,800
Speaker 2: the time. And I think that's why we won games

628
00:30:13,800 --> 00:30:14,240
Speaker 2: with him.

629
00:30:14,280 --> 00:30:16,760
Speaker 1: But I don't think people that may not play sports

630
00:30:16,840 --> 00:30:19,720
Speaker 1: understand how far that goes. Oh my God, the confidence

631
00:30:19,760 --> 00:30:22,280
Speaker 1: of your coach, the love of your coach, can change

632
00:30:22,320 --> 00:30:23,480
Speaker 1: the tra directory of your career.

633
00:30:23,640 --> 00:30:26,280
Speaker 2: Yeah. So I've been coaching all of my own kids,

634
00:30:27,000 --> 00:30:31,160
Speaker 2: and praise God, they've all been successful. My daughter of Ashti.

635
00:30:33,240 --> 00:30:35,720
Speaker 2: People don't know that I know high jumped because they're like,

636
00:30:35,760 --> 00:30:37,640
Speaker 2: he was a football player, now he's a pastor, how

637
00:30:37,680 --> 00:30:39,520
Speaker 2: could he be coaching. Well, my daughters went to the

638
00:30:39,520 --> 00:30:42,480
Speaker 2: Olympics three times. She's been fifth and sixth, and there's

639
00:30:42,560 --> 00:30:45,920
Speaker 2: times that she's won a gold at a World Indoor Championship,

640
00:30:45,920 --> 00:30:48,440
Speaker 2: a silver to the World Indoor Championship, a bronze and

641
00:30:48,480 --> 00:30:52,400
Speaker 2: an outdoor World Championship, two global goals, and people will

642
00:30:52,440 --> 00:30:55,360
Speaker 2: still say he doesn't know what he's doing. But here

643
00:30:55,400 --> 00:30:58,960
Speaker 2: we are ten years later, and it's not about me,

644
00:30:59,400 --> 00:31:02,200
Speaker 2: it's about what God is doing through us. My daughter's

645
00:31:02,240 --> 00:31:06,000
Speaker 2: won sixteen national titles. She's almost the record holder and

646
00:31:06,040 --> 00:31:09,680
Speaker 2: she's only twenty seven years old. Has nothing to do

647
00:31:09,800 --> 00:31:13,360
Speaker 2: with me. It's just I love her, pour into her

648
00:31:13,760 --> 00:31:17,120
Speaker 2: and whoever trains with her. They're my kids, and I

649
00:31:17,240 --> 00:31:19,880
Speaker 2: pour into them everything that I have, and I'll bend

650
00:31:19,880 --> 00:31:21,920
Speaker 2: over backwards, just like Buddy Ryan Tatters.

651
00:31:22,040 --> 00:31:26,440
Speaker 1: I love that same way. Yeah, the late great Reggie White, Yes,

652
00:31:26,520 --> 00:31:29,120
Speaker 1: obviously we got to see his talents. What are some

653
00:31:29,160 --> 00:31:30,560
Speaker 1: of the stuff we didn't get to see?

654
00:31:30,720 --> 00:31:36,440
Speaker 2: Reggie was no joke. The late Reggie White. Reggie would

655
00:31:36,440 --> 00:31:39,600
Speaker 2: get in your face, and I kind of take that

656
00:31:39,640 --> 00:31:43,360
Speaker 2: from him as a minister. I remember he told me

657
00:31:43,440 --> 00:31:45,640
Speaker 2: I was when I was young in the league, my

658
00:31:45,720 --> 00:31:48,400
Speaker 2: first or second year or whatever, third year. He said,

659
00:31:48,640 --> 00:31:51,360
Speaker 2: I was living with a person and he said, you

660
00:31:51,360 --> 00:31:55,680
Speaker 2: should marry that girl. I said, then, why are you

661
00:31:55,720 --> 00:32:02,800
Speaker 2: with her? Either marrier or or leave her alone. He's

662
00:32:02,880 --> 00:32:06,880
Speaker 2: up to you. I was like, you don't. Then he

663
00:32:07,240 --> 00:32:11,240
Speaker 2: brought this one to me. You're Christian. Randall said, yes,

664
00:32:11,720 --> 00:32:14,880
Speaker 2: you pay your tithes. I said, no, show me in

665
00:32:14,920 --> 00:32:16,680
Speaker 2: the Bible where he said he took me to Malako

666
00:32:16,840 --> 00:32:20,480
Speaker 2: chapter three, And from that day I have been paying

667
00:32:20,480 --> 00:32:24,840
Speaker 2: my tithes. Ever since nineteen eighty six, I think I've

668
00:32:24,840 --> 00:32:27,040
Speaker 2: been paying my ties because he got in my face

669
00:32:27,080 --> 00:32:29,080
Speaker 2: and challenged me to do what God told me to do.

670
00:32:29,160 --> 00:32:30,360
Speaker 1: What was how big was he?

671
00:32:31,000 --> 00:32:35,280
Speaker 2: Six five and a half three point fifty bench press?

672
00:32:35,360 --> 00:32:37,400
Speaker 2: Whatever you put on the bar, he did best pressed

673
00:32:37,480 --> 00:32:41,320
Speaker 2: the bar would do like this. And then the thing

674
00:32:41,360 --> 00:32:46,000
Speaker 2: about him is when game time came, his eyes would

675
00:32:46,040 --> 00:32:49,200
Speaker 2: turn bloodshot red because he would joke around and play

676
00:32:49,200 --> 00:32:52,520
Speaker 2: around like a little kid the whole week in practice,

677
00:32:52,640 --> 00:32:57,080
Speaker 2: joking around, and he would get in the game and

678
00:32:57,160 --> 00:33:00,000
Speaker 2: he would get in his stance and he say, get ready,

679
00:33:00,120 --> 00:33:08,360
Speaker 2: here comes Jesus. And he used to toss three hundred and

680
00:33:08,400 --> 00:33:11,040
Speaker 2: fifty pounds with this thing called the club. He used

681
00:33:11,080 --> 00:33:13,239
Speaker 2: to he would run and he would club them. And

682
00:33:13,280 --> 00:33:15,800
Speaker 2: I mean, I saw guys fly in practice, and I

683
00:33:15,800 --> 00:33:17,840
Speaker 2: saw guys fly in the game. This is this is

684
00:33:17,960 --> 00:33:22,000
Speaker 2: real stuff pro bowlers. And I'm like, yeah, you don't

685
00:33:22,040 --> 00:33:24,320
Speaker 2: mess with Reggie blocking him one on one. It wasn't

686
00:33:24,360 --> 00:33:26,400
Speaker 2: gonna happen. And then you throw Jerome Brown in.

687
00:33:28,240 --> 00:33:33,720
Speaker 1: About it, Reggie, They and just throw them off one.

688
00:33:33,640 --> 00:33:37,240
Speaker 2: On I saw that practice. We would have our our

689
00:33:37,280 --> 00:33:41,400
Speaker 2: blitz drill ones versus ones the defensive ones and the

690
00:33:41,480 --> 00:33:45,040
Speaker 2: offensive ones. And I was standing in the shotgun normally

691
00:33:45,040 --> 00:33:47,960
Speaker 2: at five feet about five yards, I was about six

692
00:33:48,080 --> 00:33:50,800
Speaker 2: or seven. They snapped that ball and he and Jerome

693
00:33:50,880 --> 00:33:53,400
Speaker 2: and go looking on Pitts and all those dudes would

694
00:33:53,400 --> 00:33:55,360
Speaker 2: come through. I just hand them, coach the ball.

695
00:33:55,560 --> 00:33:56,960
Speaker 1: Here you go, blow the whistle.

696
00:33:58,000 --> 00:33:59,720
Speaker 2: I mean that was like in the second and a half.

697
00:34:00,280 --> 00:34:02,960
Speaker 2: So when you talk about Reggie White, he not only

698
00:34:03,040 --> 00:34:06,080
Speaker 2: was a great player, he influenced the guys around him.

699
00:34:07,160 --> 00:34:09,719
Speaker 2: And one of the probably the greatest defense in the

700
00:34:09,760 --> 00:34:14,359
Speaker 2: history of the league was nineteen ninety ninety one, I think,

701
00:34:14,440 --> 00:34:15,919
Speaker 2: or ninety one or ninety three.

702
00:34:16,000 --> 00:34:19,719
Speaker 1: Yeah, on the other side of someone else that was

703
00:34:19,760 --> 00:34:23,240
Speaker 1: also special in the same division as you, Lawrence Taylor.

704
00:34:23,360 --> 00:34:25,200
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, I talked to us about LT.

705
00:34:25,560 --> 00:34:29,520
Speaker 2: LT. I've always had the utmost respect for LT and

706
00:34:29,560 --> 00:34:35,600
Speaker 2: the Giants. They just were just a scrappy rugged just

707
00:34:36,800 --> 00:34:39,560
Speaker 2: come on up here to New York, you know. And

708
00:34:40,280 --> 00:34:44,240
Speaker 2: I remember herschel Walker was telling me during the week.

709
00:34:44,800 --> 00:34:46,799
Speaker 2: He said, man, they need to change his game plan.

710
00:34:46,800 --> 00:34:50,000
Speaker 2: They got me blocking LT. I'm gonna do my job,

711
00:34:50,440 --> 00:34:52,720
Speaker 2: but they need to slide within them big offensive tackles

712
00:34:52,719 --> 00:34:53,879
Speaker 2: and I'll help the tackle out.

713
00:34:54,200 --> 00:34:57,640
Speaker 1: I'll chip him out.

714
00:34:57,880 --> 00:35:02,680
Speaker 2: So I remember LT. It was a third down and

715
00:35:03,960 --> 00:35:05,880
Speaker 2: I dropped back and it was third and eight and

716
00:35:05,920 --> 00:35:08,040
Speaker 2: I had to get the first down or games over.

717
00:35:08,719 --> 00:35:10,719
Speaker 2: And I took off and I'm running, and all of

718
00:35:10,800 --> 00:35:13,799
Speaker 2: a sudden, here comes LT. And I put my hand

719
00:35:13,800 --> 00:35:15,319
Speaker 2: out as big as I can make, and I try

720
00:35:15,360 --> 00:35:18,200
Speaker 2: to stiff on his face as hard as I could,

721
00:35:19,400 --> 00:35:22,600
Speaker 2: and I got him, but I didn't get the first down.

722
00:35:23,400 --> 00:35:27,360
Speaker 2: So he dragged me down about this far short of

723
00:35:27,440 --> 00:35:30,360
Speaker 2: the first down. And I already had respect, but I

724
00:35:30,400 --> 00:35:34,200
Speaker 2: gained more respect because it's one thing for Lamar Jackson

725
00:35:34,280 --> 00:35:38,319
Speaker 2: and Montana and Barry Sanders to make a play, but

726
00:35:38,400 --> 00:35:40,239
Speaker 2: he made it on the defensive side of the ball,

727
00:35:40,960 --> 00:35:45,040
Speaker 2: you know, so that I gained so much more respect

728
00:35:45,040 --> 00:35:45,399
Speaker 2: for him.

729
00:35:45,480 --> 00:35:48,640
Speaker 1: You played in an era of great, great quarterbacks who

730
00:35:48,640 --> 00:35:51,280
Speaker 1: were some of your favorite matchups to go against. Obviously,

731
00:35:51,360 --> 00:35:53,080
Speaker 1: I know it's the team, but you also played against

732
00:35:53,080 --> 00:35:55,799
Speaker 1: some great Oh I like going against Lway el Way, Yeah,

733
00:35:56,000 --> 00:35:57,520
Speaker 1: because Lway was he.

734
00:35:57,400 --> 00:36:00,520
Speaker 2: Was just scrappy. He could run, He had all the

735
00:36:00,560 --> 00:36:03,359
Speaker 2: ability that I watched him in Stamford pitching and all that,

736
00:36:03,800 --> 00:36:05,719
Speaker 2: and I just I looked at him. It's just like

737
00:36:05,760 --> 00:36:07,680
Speaker 2: I want to go against l Way, you know. And

738
00:36:07,760 --> 00:36:10,400
Speaker 2: I had respect for him and the team and Dvance

739
00:36:10,480 --> 00:36:14,239
Speaker 2: Johnson and whatever they call the Three Amigo's. Then they

740
00:36:14,239 --> 00:36:17,560
Speaker 2: had Shannon Sharp. They had just a great team. And

741
00:36:18,239 --> 00:36:21,800
Speaker 2: I mean, I like going against Steve Young also because

742
00:36:21,800 --> 00:36:23,520
Speaker 2: Steve and I we would battle it out for the

743
00:36:23,600 --> 00:36:26,319
Speaker 2: rushing title. And I remember being in the Pro Bowl

744
00:36:26,360 --> 00:36:30,160
Speaker 2: one year and we're sitting eight and twelve and he

745
00:36:30,239 --> 00:36:32,920
Speaker 2: keeps looking at me like this, and I'm like this, dude's.

746
00:36:32,640 --> 00:36:34,480
Speaker 1: Staring at me like you guys didn't know each other

747
00:36:34,560 --> 00:36:35,200
Speaker 1: really yet.

748
00:36:35,200 --> 00:36:37,719
Speaker 2: Playing against each other. So he's right here and he

749
00:36:37,800 --> 00:36:39,759
Speaker 2: keeps staring at me. I'm trying not to look at him.

750
00:36:39,800 --> 00:36:41,440
Speaker 2: And I turned around and look at me. He's like this.

751
00:36:43,400 --> 00:36:46,160
Speaker 2: Because I got the MVP that year, He's like, you're

752
00:36:46,200 --> 00:36:50,480
Speaker 2: all right, Randall that day. He became my favorite player

753
00:36:50,640 --> 00:36:54,640
Speaker 2: that day because you know, he's an LDS guy and

754
00:36:55,440 --> 00:36:59,440
Speaker 2: I've always appreciated his faith. There was even a time

755
00:36:59,520 --> 00:37:04,560
Speaker 2: when he was up for commercial with Coca Cola and

756
00:37:05,120 --> 00:37:06,719
Speaker 2: they called me up and they said, Randa, we got

757
00:37:06,920 --> 00:37:09,000
Speaker 2: a commercial for you, and I said, all right, cool.

758
00:37:09,040 --> 00:37:10,680
Speaker 2: We were going to try to give it to Steve Young,

759
00:37:10,719 --> 00:37:13,319
Speaker 2: but he wouldn't take it because it has caffeine in it.

760
00:37:13,440 --> 00:37:16,880
Speaker 2: And I said, you mean like coffee type caffeine. I

761
00:37:16,880 --> 00:37:20,799
Speaker 2: mean it's not illegal, and I asked him about it.

762
00:37:20,920 --> 00:37:23,160
Speaker 2: He basically said, yeah, it's just part of who we are.

763
00:37:23,200 --> 00:37:26,840
Speaker 2: We don't use caffeine. And that was two hundred thousand

764
00:37:26,880 --> 00:37:32,600
Speaker 2: dollars in my pocket. So he really became my favorite.

765
00:37:32,920 --> 00:37:35,200
Speaker 1: Speaking of money in your pocket. Nineteen and eighty seven's

766
00:37:35,280 --> 00:37:40,560
Speaker 1: Labor Dispute any memorable stories from back then and explain

767
00:37:40,680 --> 00:37:42,360
Speaker 1: to those that don't know what a scab was.

768
00:37:43,040 --> 00:37:47,239
Speaker 2: Scab was a player who crossed the line. And in

769
00:37:47,320 --> 00:37:50,080
Speaker 2: a town with teamsters the way we had them and

770
00:37:50,160 --> 00:37:52,440
Speaker 2: the union, that was not the thing to do. But

771
00:37:52,480 --> 00:37:54,880
Speaker 2: there were players who were injured who had to go

772
00:37:54,920 --> 00:37:58,799
Speaker 2: get treatment. But the scab players were players that would

773
00:37:58,840 --> 00:38:01,879
Speaker 2: replace us. And Philadelphia was like a no, no town

774
00:38:01,960 --> 00:38:05,240
Speaker 2: to do that, big union town. And I just remember

775
00:38:05,360 --> 00:38:08,600
Speaker 2: all the teamsters, the truckers and just everybody from the

776
00:38:08,680 --> 00:38:13,040
Speaker 2: unions coming together as one unit. And that really showed

777
00:38:13,080 --> 00:38:17,960
Speaker 2: me the city of brotherly love. Because this was so

778
00:38:18,120 --> 00:38:20,319
Speaker 2: crazy that I could let this out now, But I

779
00:38:20,400 --> 00:38:23,800
Speaker 2: remember there were trucks blocking the exits where you couldn't

780
00:38:23,800 --> 00:38:26,960
Speaker 2: get off and go to the stadium. Big rigs just parked,

781
00:38:28,040 --> 00:38:32,360
Speaker 2: you know, would sign tires, flat engine broke down. But

782
00:38:32,760 --> 00:38:36,160
Speaker 2: the city stuck together and it's like, don't don't come

783
00:38:36,160 --> 00:38:39,880
Speaker 2: in here without our players. We want play. Oh yeah,

784
00:38:39,960 --> 00:38:43,399
Speaker 2: And there was unity and we we picketing with them.

785
00:38:43,440 --> 00:38:46,320
Speaker 2: We became players who got to hang out with everybody

786
00:38:46,320 --> 00:38:50,480
Speaker 2: in society, and we developed even deeper relationships with the community.

787
00:38:50,600 --> 00:38:53,520
Speaker 1: I love that one of my favorite video games of

788
00:38:53,560 --> 00:38:56,360
Speaker 1: all time. And you were arguably one of the greatest

789
00:38:56,360 --> 00:38:59,160
Speaker 1: players on that But why was your name q QB

790
00:38:59,320 --> 00:39:03,640
Speaker 1: Eagles Mob? Yeah? Man, what happened there? I didn't give

791
00:39:03,680 --> 00:39:07,360
Speaker 1: him the rights, okay, So that that you just weren't interested.

792
00:39:07,400 --> 00:39:08,399
Speaker 1: Then the money wasn't right.

793
00:39:08,480 --> 00:39:11,640
Speaker 2: Money wasn't right, okay, And uh but I played it.

794
00:39:11,960 --> 00:39:13,080
Speaker 2: You still play I played it?

795
00:39:13,200 --> 00:39:15,480
Speaker 1: Yes, I did. You were a bad man on that game. Man,

796
00:39:15,520 --> 00:39:16,879
Speaker 1: You and Bo Jackson on that game.

797
00:39:17,400 --> 00:39:18,720
Speaker 2: Unbelievable himage Smith.

798
00:39:18,960 --> 00:39:19,160
Speaker 1: Yeah.

799
00:39:19,560 --> 00:39:22,200
Speaker 2: I would play against the Cowboys all the time, and

800
00:39:22,239 --> 00:39:25,200
Speaker 2: Emmett would run for two hundred and eighty three hundred

801
00:39:25,560 --> 00:39:28,719
Speaker 2: yards and you couldn't stop him. And uh, but I

802
00:39:28,760 --> 00:39:31,759
Speaker 2: got pretty good at the game, and I would pull

803
00:39:31,760 --> 00:39:34,719
Speaker 2: all the starters out and I could finally beat the Cowboys.

804
00:39:34,760 --> 00:39:37,359
Speaker 1: You know, you took their starters out. Yeah.

805
00:39:37,440 --> 00:39:39,840
Speaker 2: No, I took our starters out because I got I

806
00:39:39,880 --> 00:39:42,600
Speaker 2: got better at the game, you know, and uh, there

807
00:39:42,680 --> 00:39:44,640
Speaker 2: was just ways you could you could win on the game.

808
00:39:44,719 --> 00:39:47,640
Speaker 3: You were quoted saying back then, I was a different person.

809
00:39:47,719 --> 00:39:50,399
Speaker 3: I was immature. I was trying to figure out who

810
00:39:50,440 --> 00:39:53,200
Speaker 3: I was. Can you speak to that, because I think

811
00:39:53,520 --> 00:39:55,879
Speaker 3: as men and as we grow up, we all come

812
00:39:55,920 --> 00:39:58,640
Speaker 3: to that moment at some point, especially evolving for the better,

813
00:39:59,000 --> 00:39:59,480
Speaker 3: changing for them.

814
00:39:59,600 --> 00:40:03,879
Speaker 2: Yeah. Yeah, you know, I'm just grateful my parents took

815
00:40:03,920 --> 00:40:07,319
Speaker 2: me to church growing up, because at least I was

816
00:40:07,360 --> 00:40:11,040
Speaker 2: sitting in the House of God, and I didn't know

817
00:40:11,080 --> 00:40:13,720
Speaker 2: who he was. I did not have a relationship with God.

818
00:40:14,320 --> 00:40:17,080
Speaker 2: But when I got to NFL and I began to

819
00:40:17,640 --> 00:40:20,920
Speaker 2: realize I got it going on. You know, you get

820
00:40:20,920 --> 00:40:23,839
Speaker 2: to that point where that pride kicks in as an athlete.

821
00:40:24,000 --> 00:40:26,759
Speaker 2: And so I remember I was driving and walking down

822
00:40:26,760 --> 00:40:29,040
Speaker 2: the road one day and I had set these visions

823
00:40:29,040 --> 00:40:31,319
Speaker 2: and goals of being a professional football player from when

824
00:40:31,400 --> 00:40:34,000
Speaker 2: I was a little kid nine years old, and I

825
00:40:34,080 --> 00:40:36,919
Speaker 2: said this to God. I said, God, I must owe

826
00:40:36,920 --> 00:40:40,080
Speaker 2: you something, and it was like an audible voice from

827
00:40:40,239 --> 00:40:43,480
Speaker 2: him said, you owe me your life. And I didn't

828
00:40:43,560 --> 00:40:46,799
Speaker 2: understand that because I didn't really understand who God was,

829
00:40:47,840 --> 00:40:49,960
Speaker 2: and so I did things that I was not happy.

830
00:40:50,080 --> 00:40:55,920
Speaker 2: My vocabulary was horrible. My desire for life. I wanted

831
00:40:55,960 --> 00:40:59,120
Speaker 2: a wife, and I just figured you just went out

832
00:40:59,160 --> 00:41:01,080
Speaker 2: and dated people if you know it worked out, it

833
00:41:01,120 --> 00:41:04,680
Speaker 2: worked out, and get married. But that wasn't how I

834
00:41:04,719 --> 00:41:09,680
Speaker 2: was supposed to do it. And thank God that I

835
00:41:09,719 --> 00:41:14,240
Speaker 2: woke up. But during then I was ignorant, I was foolish,

836
00:41:14,800 --> 00:41:17,160
Speaker 2: and I did things that I'm not proud of today.

837
00:41:17,920 --> 00:41:22,560
Speaker 2: And once again my vocabulary, I didn't think before I spoke,

838
00:41:23,520 --> 00:41:27,040
Speaker 2: and I was just not who God wanted me to be.

839
00:41:27,440 --> 00:41:30,440
Speaker 2: And then I had my encounter. You know, I did

840
00:41:30,520 --> 00:41:35,360
Speaker 2: a lot of things that I'm not proud of, you know,

841
00:41:35,400 --> 00:41:39,760
Speaker 2: and it was just my character, you know, because whatever

842
00:41:39,760 --> 00:41:42,960
Speaker 2: the scene was, I fell into the scene. If people cursed,

843
00:41:43,000 --> 00:41:46,440
Speaker 2: I cursed. If people drink, I drank, And you know,

844
00:41:46,520 --> 00:41:49,560
Speaker 2: I don't drink. I don't smoke, I don't smoke cigars.

845
00:41:49,560 --> 00:41:51,480
Speaker 2: I don't smoke cigarettes. I don't smoke pipes. I don't

846
00:41:51,480 --> 00:41:55,520
Speaker 2: do any of that. I don't curse anymore. My life

847
00:41:55,560 --> 00:41:58,840
Speaker 2: has turned around, and it's because I had a revelation

848
00:41:59,120 --> 00:42:00,080
Speaker 2: that God really is.

849
00:42:00,480 --> 00:42:02,560
Speaker 1: That cussing part. How long did that take?

850
00:42:02,960 --> 00:42:07,920
Speaker 2: I cursed all my life. I think my peers and

851
00:42:07,960 --> 00:42:11,839
Speaker 2: my parents taught me pretty much how to do it.

852
00:42:12,320 --> 00:42:15,919
Speaker 2: But I think by I think I was probably twenty

853
00:42:15,920 --> 00:42:19,040
Speaker 2: something years old, and I said, you know, if I

854
00:42:19,120 --> 00:42:23,120
Speaker 2: love God, I got to keep my mouth clean. And

855
00:42:23,160 --> 00:42:25,600
Speaker 2: that's when it started to change for me when I

856
00:42:25,640 --> 00:42:26,800
Speaker 2: started reading my Bible.

857
00:42:26,840 --> 00:42:27,040
Speaker 1: Though.

858
00:42:27,239 --> 00:42:30,120
Speaker 2: When I started reading the Bible, it says we praise

859
00:42:31,080 --> 00:42:33,360
Speaker 2: our Lord and Father and we curse men who have

860
00:42:33,400 --> 00:42:36,800
Speaker 2: been made in His similar to both praise and cursing

861
00:42:36,880 --> 00:42:38,960
Speaker 2: from the same tongue. This should not be. That's in

862
00:42:39,000 --> 00:42:41,000
Speaker 2: the Book of James. And like, when that one hit me,

863
00:42:41,920 --> 00:42:45,840
Speaker 2: I was like, yeah, so I became like a recluse

864
00:42:46,840 --> 00:42:49,160
Speaker 2: and people were like, he's an enigma. They couldn't figure

865
00:42:49,200 --> 00:42:51,360
Speaker 2: me out. I'm like, I can't figure myself out. You know,

866
00:42:51,400 --> 00:42:53,520
Speaker 2: I'm trying to find out what my identity is and

867
00:42:54,200 --> 00:42:56,879
Speaker 2: you know, my validation. I'm not validated by sports now,

868
00:42:56,920 --> 00:42:58,920
Speaker 2: and I realize that not how much money I have,

869
00:42:59,239 --> 00:43:02,239
Speaker 2: but I'm validated by the blood that came out of

870
00:43:02,320 --> 00:43:05,480
Speaker 2: Jesus Christ. And oh my god, when I think about that,

871
00:43:05,520 --> 00:43:08,760
Speaker 2: I'm okay. Now I can I can conquer all of

872
00:43:08,480 --> 00:43:12,000
Speaker 2: the things in my life that are hindering me from

873
00:43:12,000 --> 00:43:16,040
Speaker 2: being whom I'm supposed to be, and studying my Bible

874
00:43:16,040 --> 00:43:19,200
Speaker 2: would change that. I started studying every single day, you know,

875
00:43:19,400 --> 00:43:21,840
Speaker 2: chapter day. I would meditate on a word and that

876
00:43:22,000 --> 00:43:23,439
Speaker 2: really helped me. I really did.

877
00:43:24,120 --> 00:43:26,560
Speaker 1: That's interesting, especially fun at that young age. Again, as

878
00:43:26,600 --> 00:43:28,360
Speaker 1: we talked on the kind of off camera in the

879
00:43:28,360 --> 00:43:30,279
Speaker 1: middle of the midst of your career, with all the

880
00:43:30,320 --> 00:43:33,640
Speaker 1: noise around, to be able to lock into that is special.

881
00:43:34,160 --> 00:43:37,400
Speaker 1: Your style of play. You're running, you're diving over the

882
00:43:37,440 --> 00:43:40,719
Speaker 1: top of line, jumping over people, throwing the ball the

883
00:43:40,760 --> 00:43:43,640
Speaker 1: way you did. When did that catch up to you

884
00:43:45,000 --> 00:43:46,040
Speaker 1: because you had some of you.

885
00:43:46,560 --> 00:43:48,280
Speaker 2: Do you think it caught up to me yet? Because

886
00:43:48,360 --> 00:43:49,960
Speaker 2: in my mind I think I could do it, But

887
00:43:50,040 --> 00:43:52,200
Speaker 2: you know, at sixty two years Oh, that's not happening.

888
00:43:52,560 --> 00:43:54,960
Speaker 2: I watched old I watched old Dak going in the

889
00:43:55,040 --> 00:43:56,280
Speaker 2: end zone against the Eagles.

890
00:43:56,719 --> 00:43:59,239
Speaker 3: It didn't Hey, I'm happy he did it, but he

891
00:43:59,280 --> 00:44:00,360
Speaker 3: did not know how to fall.

892
00:44:00,440 --> 00:44:02,400
Speaker 1: He was like, he broke his neck. I'm talking about

893
00:44:02,440 --> 00:44:06,319
Speaker 1: he felt he felt crazy. Yeah, it off.

894
00:44:06,360 --> 00:44:09,080
Speaker 2: He was about this high off the ground too. But

895
00:44:09,160 --> 00:44:11,440
Speaker 2: he got in there, you know, but I was like, oh,

896
00:44:11,520 --> 00:44:14,040
Speaker 2: is he all right? I was like, darn it. He scored,

897
00:44:14,160 --> 00:44:16,880
Speaker 2: you know, but it's like, yeah, when I got to

898
00:44:17,080 --> 00:44:18,719
Speaker 2: I had this thing, when you get to the five,

899
00:44:18,760 --> 00:44:20,520
Speaker 2: you die. When you get to the four, you gotta score.

900
00:44:20,600 --> 00:44:21,920
Speaker 2: You get to the three is up to me. You

901
00:44:21,960 --> 00:44:23,120
Speaker 2: get to the two, you know what to do. You

902
00:44:23,160 --> 00:44:24,319
Speaker 2: get to the one, job's done.

903
00:44:24,520 --> 00:44:26,600
Speaker 1: That's kind of how I thought, one more time, one

904
00:44:26,640 --> 00:44:27,480
Speaker 1: more time, to.

905
00:44:27,560 --> 00:44:29,800
Speaker 2: Five, you gotta dive, get to the four, you gotta score.

906
00:44:29,920 --> 00:44:31,400
Speaker 2: You get to the three, it's up to me. You

907
00:44:31,400 --> 00:44:32,719
Speaker 2: get to the two, you know what to do, you

908
00:44:32,760 --> 00:44:33,359
Speaker 2: get to the one.

909
00:44:33,440 --> 00:44:35,360
Speaker 1: Jobs done.

910
00:44:35,760 --> 00:44:38,400
Speaker 2: So I kind of lived with like little cliches like that.

911
00:44:39,280 --> 00:44:41,680
Speaker 2: And when I saw that to that the other day

912
00:44:41,719 --> 00:44:43,879
Speaker 2: and I'm like, man, that dude did whatever it took

913
00:44:44,280 --> 00:44:46,080
Speaker 2: to get in there. Yeah, to get in there. And

914
00:44:46,080 --> 00:44:48,319
Speaker 2: and that was probably the difference in the game that

915
00:44:48,360 --> 00:44:50,839
Speaker 2: when he did that, his team was like he sold

916
00:44:50,920 --> 00:44:54,200
Speaker 2: himself out for us, and the next thing, you know,

917
00:44:54,960 --> 00:44:57,799
Speaker 2: it was a done deal, and I turned the game off,

918
00:44:58,000 --> 00:45:00,000
Speaker 2: you know, because I had been praying for Jalen Hurts.

919
00:45:00,040 --> 00:45:03,040
Speaker 2: That's my boy. I prayed for him all the time.

920
00:45:03,320 --> 00:45:05,480
Speaker 2: But when I started twenty one twenty one and then

921
00:45:05,719 --> 00:45:08,400
Speaker 2: something happened, we had a punch or something like, oh,

922
00:45:08,480 --> 00:45:10,239
Speaker 2: I was like, oh my gosh, I don't want to Yeah,

923
00:45:10,239 --> 00:45:13,160
Speaker 2: it was the fumblem I was like, oh my gosh,

924
00:45:13,200 --> 00:45:16,520
Speaker 2: my boys. You know, so I just prayed without watching

925
00:45:17,680 --> 00:45:19,960
Speaker 2: too much. It's too much for me to handle.

926
00:45:20,120 --> 00:45:22,120
Speaker 1: Do you have a favorite run of your career?

927
00:45:22,320 --> 00:45:26,160
Speaker 2: I have two. One was against the Washington Redskins at home.

928
00:45:26,920 --> 00:45:29,520
Speaker 2: I dropped back and I never wanted Dave Butts to

929
00:45:29,600 --> 00:45:33,680
Speaker 2: touch me because he was big. He had an angry

930
00:45:33,719 --> 00:45:36,200
Speaker 2: look on his face and he weighed three hundred and

931
00:45:36,200 --> 00:45:39,520
Speaker 2: sixty pounds, and so when I dropped back, I saw

932
00:45:39,600 --> 00:45:43,279
Speaker 2: him coming and I did one of those and he

933
00:45:43,320 --> 00:45:44,920
Speaker 2: missed me, and I was like, oh, I was a

934
00:45:44,960 --> 00:45:47,560
Speaker 2: good one. Then I ran and there was guys coming

935
00:45:47,560 --> 00:45:49,560
Speaker 2: and I stopped. I put my brakes on my feet,

936
00:45:49,640 --> 00:45:52,200
Speaker 2: went to the front of my shoes and I cut

937
00:45:52,239 --> 00:45:55,600
Speaker 2: back in. I saw four guys fall down. I'm like, oh,

938
00:45:55,719 --> 00:45:58,839
Speaker 2: I'm still up, and then I ran and as I'm running,

939
00:45:58,880 --> 00:46:00,239
Speaker 2: I'm like, I'm gonna get there. I'm gona ge there,

940
00:46:00,280 --> 00:46:02,120
Speaker 2: and out of the corner of mine, here comes Daryl

941
00:46:03,040 --> 00:46:05,560
Speaker 2: fast as can be, and I'm thinking I got to

942
00:46:05,600 --> 00:46:08,000
Speaker 2: run from Daryl. I gotta go, and he's always catching me.

943
00:46:08,560 --> 00:46:10,920
Speaker 2: And then there's a DV right in front of me,

944
00:46:11,040 --> 00:46:12,759
Speaker 2: and I tried to run him over at about the

945
00:46:12,800 --> 00:46:17,359
Speaker 2: five or six yard line. That hurt. That hurt pretty bad,

946
00:46:17,560 --> 00:46:20,440
Speaker 2: and I'm all of the years that after that, I

947
00:46:20,480 --> 00:46:22,560
Speaker 2: thought it was Daryl that hit me, but it was

948
00:46:22,600 --> 00:46:25,040
Speaker 2: the guy in front of me. I probably got a

949
00:46:25,080 --> 00:46:28,360
Speaker 2: concussion and I didn't score. I got about to the

950
00:46:28,360 --> 00:46:31,080
Speaker 2: three and I'm pumped up, the adrenalines working and I'm excited.

951
00:46:31,239 --> 00:46:33,840
Speaker 2: And then the other one was against the Cowboys. I

952
00:46:33,960 --> 00:46:36,520
Speaker 2: dropped back and I rolled to the left, and I

953
00:46:36,600 --> 00:46:40,040
Speaker 2: was kind of cornered and one of the defensive linemen

954
00:46:40,120 --> 00:46:42,920
Speaker 2: and linebacker and I just duck and they flew over me.

955
00:46:43,160 --> 00:46:45,120
Speaker 2: And then I cut back in and I'm like, oh,

956
00:46:45,239 --> 00:46:49,600
Speaker 2: I'm still going. And then baits Bill Bates got me. Yeah,

957
00:46:49,760 --> 00:46:53,440
Speaker 2: he was a bar He got me though. Because I

958
00:46:53,520 --> 00:46:55,239
Speaker 2: was I thought I was going to have another one.

959
00:46:55,960 --> 00:47:00,200
Speaker 1: Randall cutting him celebrity rap without even knowing. You're one

960
00:47:00,200 --> 00:47:04,080
Speaker 1: of the pioneers to what we're doing today. Started back

961
00:47:04,320 --> 00:47:06,319
Speaker 1: in the in the in the early nineties. What was

962
00:47:06,360 --> 00:47:08,319
Speaker 1: that like and how that come about?

963
00:47:08,520 --> 00:47:11,279
Speaker 2: I loved it was like this. I got to sit

964
00:47:11,440 --> 00:47:16,040
Speaker 2: with a lot of people. You guys probably remember Downtown

965
00:47:16,239 --> 00:47:17,239
Speaker 2: Julie Brown.

966
00:47:17,080 --> 00:47:19,360
Speaker 1: Downtown Juli Judy.

967
00:47:19,480 --> 00:47:24,680
Speaker 2: Yeah, I had watched her on MTV and uh, they

968
00:47:24,680 --> 00:47:26,680
Speaker 2: asked me who I want an interview? I said, and

969
00:47:26,719 --> 00:47:28,680
Speaker 2: so they threw out all these names and said her

970
00:47:28,960 --> 00:47:31,160
Speaker 2: and it was Donald Trump back then, believing he was

971
00:47:31,200 --> 00:47:31,400
Speaker 2: the man.

972
00:47:31,440 --> 00:47:32,960
Speaker 1: We were talking about that on the wait like everyone

973
00:47:32,960 --> 00:47:34,480
Speaker 1: loved Trump back then, everybody loved him.

974
00:47:34,520 --> 00:47:36,600
Speaker 2: Yeah, so I said, I want Trump, I want Barkley,

975
00:47:36,600 --> 00:47:41,279
Speaker 2: I want andre Acacy and mc hammer. You know. So

976
00:47:41,960 --> 00:47:44,919
Speaker 2: I got to interview all of them, and uh, it's

977
00:47:44,960 --> 00:47:48,000
Speaker 2: it's on YouTube. Even the interview with Donald Trump was

978
00:47:48,000 --> 00:47:48,560
Speaker 2: on YouTube.

979
00:47:48,640 --> 00:47:48,799
Speaker 1: You know.

980
00:47:48,840 --> 00:47:51,040
Speaker 2: I had my high top. I thought I was somebody.

981
00:47:50,640 --> 00:47:53,520
Speaker 1: Back in the day where that Where'd that style come from?

982
00:47:53,719 --> 00:47:57,359
Speaker 2: I don't know. It was a short kid and play.

983
00:47:57,800 --> 00:48:01,960
Speaker 1: It was one right, I thought, k playing the late

984
00:48:01,960 --> 00:48:04,600
Speaker 1: great Whitney Houston. Talk about her.

985
00:48:04,640 --> 00:48:07,479
Speaker 2: You're going deep now A little bit digging now.

986
00:48:08,280 --> 00:48:09,640
Speaker 1: Player, I got to ask some questions. Man.

987
00:48:09,880 --> 00:48:12,319
Speaker 2: Uh, you know, I was just a big Whitney Houston fan,

988
00:48:12,760 --> 00:48:16,680
Speaker 2: big in Vogue fan, of course, Michael Jackson and just

989
00:48:17,000 --> 00:48:20,920
Speaker 2: I love music and uh BB and c C whinings.

990
00:48:20,960 --> 00:48:24,000
Speaker 2: You know, they actually sang BB saying our wedding. But

991
00:48:25,960 --> 00:48:28,000
Speaker 2: I was I don't know. I was kind of toward

992
00:48:28,040 --> 00:48:31,640
Speaker 2: the peak of my career and I saw her, and

993
00:48:32,000 --> 00:48:34,080
Speaker 2: you know, I guess I was infatuated, just like every

994
00:48:34,200 --> 00:48:36,799
Speaker 2: all the other men. And I just happened to know

995
00:48:36,840 --> 00:48:39,000
Speaker 2: her publicist, and I said, do you think Whitney would

996
00:48:39,000 --> 00:48:40,239
Speaker 2: like to go out with me? If I asked her?

997
00:48:40,400 --> 00:48:44,240
Speaker 2: She said, yeah, ask her. So her nickname was Nippy.

998
00:48:44,719 --> 00:48:46,879
Speaker 2: So she invited me to I'm Your Baby to night

999
00:48:47,239 --> 00:48:49,840
Speaker 2: release party and it took a couple of teammates and

1000
00:48:49,920 --> 00:48:52,000
Speaker 2: I went and I said, you think tonight would be

1001
00:48:52,040 --> 00:48:53,920
Speaker 2: to night? And she said yeah, go ask her to

1002
00:48:53,960 --> 00:48:57,120
Speaker 2: go on to day. Tell her you'll take her to Antigua.

1003
00:48:58,000 --> 00:49:00,759
Speaker 2: And so I said, I said, Nippy said, hey, like

1004
00:49:00,800 --> 00:49:02,640
Speaker 2: to take you out get to know you better, and

1005
00:49:02,680 --> 00:49:05,200
Speaker 2: she said, real, that would be that'd be very nice.

1006
00:49:05,400 --> 00:49:10,279
Speaker 2: I was shocked, you know, And so we met and

1007
00:49:10,360 --> 00:49:12,799
Speaker 2: back then I told the owner of the team. I said, Hey,

1008
00:49:12,800 --> 00:49:15,160
Speaker 2: I'm gonna go on a date with whitt Houston. He says, well,

1009
00:49:15,440 --> 00:49:17,239
Speaker 2: I'm going to give you my private jet. I'm gonna

1010
00:49:17,239 --> 00:49:18,440
Speaker 2: fly you to Antique with So.

1011
00:49:21,760 --> 00:49:23,040
Speaker 1: I filed the deal. Yeah.

1012
00:49:23,080 --> 00:49:25,239
Speaker 2: I flew to Miami, stayed with Norman Brayman at his

1013
00:49:25,280 --> 00:49:27,680
Speaker 2: house with he and his wife and just great people.

1014
00:49:28,239 --> 00:49:30,359
Speaker 2: He sent me down there. I'm on the plane, I'm

1015
00:49:30,400 --> 00:49:32,239
Speaker 2: listening to her album and to me, I was like,

1016
00:49:33,400 --> 00:49:35,320
Speaker 2: and this is no offense to Bobby, you know, I

1017
00:49:35,360 --> 00:49:39,360
Speaker 2: want to be careful, but I just thought she was

1018
00:49:39,400 --> 00:49:42,000
Speaker 2: just a wonderful person and I was thinking, you know,

1019
00:49:42,800 --> 00:49:46,319
Speaker 2: and back then she said she was single. So we

1020
00:49:46,360 --> 00:49:48,680
Speaker 2: went out and it was about a day and a

1021
00:49:48,719 --> 00:49:52,279
Speaker 2: half day. You know, nothing big. We just went went

1022
00:49:52,400 --> 00:49:54,959
Speaker 2: to dinner, hung out on the beach.

1023
00:49:55,000 --> 00:49:57,040
Speaker 1: But that was about it.

1024
00:49:57,120 --> 00:50:00,400
Speaker 3: It's a thing on INSTAGRAMD when somebody said could I

1025
00:50:00,400 --> 00:50:03,080
Speaker 3: borrow some money and he sung the picture of Whitney

1026
00:50:03,080 --> 00:50:06,200
Speaker 3: Houston and why you send me that? And the person said,

1027
00:50:06,200 --> 00:50:13,080
Speaker 3: because I have nothing.

1028
00:50:16,280 --> 00:50:18,640
Speaker 1: For you. Yes. You made an appearance on Martin, one

1029
00:50:18,680 --> 00:50:20,680
Speaker 1: of my favorite shows. What was that like?

1030
00:50:21,080 --> 00:50:26,720
Speaker 2: Martin is a genius When I went to and Snoop

1031
00:50:26,760 --> 00:50:29,479
Speaker 2: Dogg was on the show as well. But when I went,

1032
00:50:29,719 --> 00:50:31,680
Speaker 2: I'm like, man, I get to be on the Martin Show.

1033
00:50:31,840 --> 00:50:34,520
Speaker 1: That was that was it back then, Whitney.

1034
00:50:34,600 --> 00:50:40,160
Speaker 2: I mean, Arsenio Hall and Martin there. So I go

1035
00:50:40,239 --> 00:50:43,640
Speaker 2: there and I meet Martin, just the nicest guy, and

1036
00:50:44,160 --> 00:50:47,440
Speaker 2: he was studying the book was this big and I

1037
00:50:47,480 --> 00:50:50,319
Speaker 2: guess he had to memorize the whole book. And I'm like,

1038
00:50:51,840 --> 00:50:54,880
Speaker 2: and I had my little lines, you know, I'm just

1039
00:50:55,080 --> 00:50:58,239
Speaker 2: messing up on my lines. And then I remember he

1040
00:50:58,360 --> 00:51:03,879
Speaker 2: was playing Roy Rome. It's on YouTube. Yeah, so in

1041
00:51:03,920 --> 00:51:07,920
Speaker 2: that he had libs and I'm not knowing that he's

1042
00:51:07,920 --> 00:51:10,839
Speaker 2: gonna do that. So he says, you know, I had

1043
00:51:10,880 --> 00:51:13,880
Speaker 2: just got my hair like tightened up ready, and he

1044
00:51:13,960 --> 00:51:16,520
Speaker 2: said he said, look like you comb your head with

1045
00:51:16,600 --> 00:51:22,480
Speaker 2: a brick. And I lost it. I lost it, And

1046
00:51:22,760 --> 00:51:24,880
Speaker 2: I'm like, that wasn't on the script, you know, but

1047
00:51:24,960 --> 00:51:27,880
Speaker 2: that was Martin. That was how witty and how smart

1048
00:51:27,920 --> 00:51:28,200
Speaker 2: he is.

1049
00:51:28,320 --> 00:51:34,960
Speaker 1: He's so quick, like comb me head with a brick.

1050
00:51:36,120 --> 00:51:39,439
Speaker 2: And I was just laughing, and I messed that whole

1051
00:51:39,480 --> 00:51:42,200
Speaker 2: scene up. We had to read through the whole scene.

1052
00:51:42,640 --> 00:51:45,040
Speaker 2: But I've always and I got his phone number. I

1053
00:51:45,080 --> 00:51:48,320
Speaker 2: got the contacted and they you know, Martin would answer,

1054
00:51:48,520 --> 00:51:50,440
Speaker 2: and I sais I still had his number because I'd

1055
00:51:50,440 --> 00:51:51,640
Speaker 2: like to call him see how he's doing.

1056
00:51:51,760 --> 00:51:55,239
Speaker 3: That's funny, jay Z Heart of the City name drop

1057
00:51:56,080 --> 00:51:59,439
Speaker 3: uh scrambledack round the ways, scramblack around the ways coming

1058
00:51:59,440 --> 00:52:02,000
Speaker 3: hand but the only thing running his numbers found one

1059
00:52:02,000 --> 00:52:03,680
Speaker 3: of the best songs. How did you feel like when

1060
00:52:03,680 --> 00:52:05,359
Speaker 3: you when you heard jay Z drop your name?

1061
00:52:05,960 --> 00:52:09,520
Speaker 2: He as crazy as that sounds. I don't listen to

1062
00:52:09,640 --> 00:52:12,640
Speaker 2: rap because it takes me back to the person how

1063
00:52:12,680 --> 00:52:15,200
Speaker 2: he used to be interesting, and so I can't go

1064
00:52:15,320 --> 00:52:18,040
Speaker 2: out dancing. I can't listen to rap. I can't do

1065
00:52:18,080 --> 00:52:20,120
Speaker 2: certain things. I have to have a little box around

1066
00:52:20,160 --> 00:52:24,680
Speaker 2: me sometimes. But people would go like, jay Z put

1067
00:52:24,760 --> 00:52:28,439
Speaker 2: you in this song, man, and I'm like, at first

1068
00:52:28,480 --> 00:52:31,200
Speaker 2: I didn't know who he was. Wow, you know, because

1069
00:52:31,360 --> 00:52:32,799
Speaker 2: like I said, I didn't listen around. I mean, I

1070
00:52:32,840 --> 00:52:36,160
Speaker 2: know who the cool mod and Curtis blow are you

1071
00:52:36,200 --> 00:52:38,120
Speaker 2: know from back of the day. These are the breaks,

1072
00:52:38,160 --> 00:52:41,680
Speaker 2: you know. But and then I kept hearing the song,

1073
00:52:41,880 --> 00:52:44,279
Speaker 2: like when I would go into stories and things like that,

1074
00:52:44,360 --> 00:52:46,600
Speaker 2: I'm like, and then I'd hear my name I'm like,

1075
00:52:47,080 --> 00:52:49,319
Speaker 2: he really did, I mean it rap song? It was,

1076
00:52:49,400 --> 00:52:50,320
Speaker 2: it was, it was awesome.

1077
00:52:50,360 --> 00:52:52,200
Speaker 1: I mean I think it was pretty cool man.

1078
00:52:52,280 --> 00:52:55,279
Speaker 2: Yeah, jay Z, I mean, come on now, he's jay Z.

1079
00:52:55,640 --> 00:52:56,200
Speaker 1: Yeah.

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00:52:56,400 --> 00:52:58,439
Speaker 3: You know, this segment is brought to you by stock

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Speaker 3: Jay and Hurst recently paid homte to you wearing the

1083
00:53:04,200 --> 00:53:05,560
Speaker 3: black Jordan one cleats.

1084
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Speaker 1: Yeah. What was your history with Nike?

1085
00:53:07,480 --> 00:53:09,440
Speaker 2: I had a contract with him, and my daughter is

1086
00:53:09,480 --> 00:53:11,799
Speaker 2: signed with Nike right now. Just talk to the rep

1087
00:53:11,840 --> 00:53:15,920
Speaker 2: the other day. But Nike has been a part of

1088
00:53:15,920 --> 00:53:18,799
Speaker 2: my family because my brother Sam wore Nikes when he

1089
00:53:18,840 --> 00:53:22,240
Speaker 2: was playing in the NFL, and then you know, Howard

1090
00:53:22,280 --> 00:53:26,200
Speaker 2: Slusher was his agent and he's good friends with Phil Knight,

1091
00:53:26,719 --> 00:53:29,040
Speaker 2: so there was an inn there, and like I always

1092
00:53:29,040 --> 00:53:31,239
Speaker 2: wanted to wear Nike, you know, and then once Jordan

1093
00:53:31,320 --> 00:53:35,319
Speaker 2: came around, everybody wanted to wear you know, and so

1094
00:53:35,840 --> 00:53:39,000
Speaker 2: it was it was. It's been a great relationship, you know,

1095
00:53:40,200 --> 00:53:42,560
Speaker 2: being my daughter's coach. They do have a coach of

1096
00:53:42,600 --> 00:53:45,359
Speaker 2: stipend in there as well, so the relationship is still there.

1097
00:53:45,920 --> 00:53:47,759
Speaker 2: And that's all I wear. I only wear Nikes. I

1098
00:53:47,760 --> 00:53:49,840
Speaker 2: don't know, I don't wear anything else. If I'm not

1099
00:53:49,880 --> 00:53:51,920
Speaker 2: wearing Nikes, I have a suit or jacket on or something.

1100
00:53:51,960 --> 00:53:55,799
Speaker 1: We see fly. You used to wear the all blacks though,

1101
00:53:55,840 --> 00:53:57,920
Speaker 1: with the white or the gray uniforms. Like, where did

1102
00:53:57,920 --> 00:53:58,800
Speaker 1: that come from.

1103
00:53:58,640 --> 00:53:59,239
Speaker 2: Buddy Ryan?

1104
00:53:59,360 --> 00:53:59,879
Speaker 1: That was fly?

1105
00:54:00,160 --> 00:54:06,560
Speaker 2: Yeah. So when Jalen, when Jalen you know, busted him out,

1106
00:54:06,840 --> 00:54:09,680
Speaker 2: it came up on my Facebook page, and I don't

1107
00:54:09,680 --> 00:54:12,799
Speaker 2: even know why it came up that day, but they

1108
00:54:12,840 --> 00:54:15,839
Speaker 2: had both of us right there, and so I took

1109
00:54:15,840 --> 00:54:18,239
Speaker 2: a picture of it. I said, Man, I said, there

1110
00:54:18,320 --> 00:54:20,560
Speaker 2: you go, bro, and He's like, yeah, I had to

1111
00:54:20,600 --> 00:54:22,480
Speaker 2: represent you. And I'm like, I didn't know he was

1112
00:54:22,520 --> 00:54:24,480
Speaker 2: doing it because I did it. And then I just

1113
00:54:24,520 --> 00:54:28,840
Speaker 2: saw him wearing the white ones and I was like, okay, yeah.

1114
00:54:28,880 --> 00:54:32,919
Speaker 2: But he's a great kid. I mean, I really love

1115
00:54:33,120 --> 00:54:37,080
Speaker 2: his character. I love how he presents himself. I loved

1116
00:54:37,200 --> 00:54:42,920
Speaker 2: he He's got a great wife, and he just represents

1117
00:54:43,560 --> 00:54:46,759
Speaker 2: just who we should be in sports, especially in the

1118
00:54:46,760 --> 00:54:50,200
Speaker 2: football game. Game of football is. I mean, there's so

1119
00:54:50,400 --> 00:54:52,520
Speaker 2: much that comes at you and he just says so

1120
00:54:52,680 --> 00:54:54,480
Speaker 2: calm and relaxed. I like that.

1121
00:54:54,680 --> 00:54:57,279
Speaker 1: I'm not mistaken. He as an all women team around him,

1122
00:54:57,280 --> 00:55:00,880
Speaker 1: as well as agents and managers and all. Yeah, strong

1123
00:55:00,920 --> 00:55:05,000
Speaker 1: women to keep a nice tight circle. Yep, briefly nineteen

1124
00:55:05,040 --> 00:55:08,759
Speaker 1: ninety five, you retired, but you were convinced to come

1125
00:55:08,800 --> 00:55:11,160
Speaker 1: back by the late great Dennis Green.

1126
00:55:11,800 --> 00:55:14,919
Speaker 2: How that happened, Denny, Yeah, to go back a little

1127
00:55:14,920 --> 00:55:20,480
Speaker 2: bit before, Jenny, there was a lot in public in

1128
00:55:20,520 --> 00:55:22,359
Speaker 2: my life because I retired. I said, you're too young

1129
00:55:22,440 --> 00:55:24,000
Speaker 2: to retire. When are you coming back? I said, I'm

1130
00:55:24,040 --> 00:55:25,520
Speaker 2: not going back. And I told all the teams that

1131
00:55:25,560 --> 00:55:29,000
Speaker 2: don't call me, I'm not going back. I'm done, you know.

1132
00:55:29,080 --> 00:55:30,879
Speaker 2: And my thing was, I have enough money in the bank.

1133
00:55:31,000 --> 00:55:33,920
Speaker 2: I played, I don't want to be you know, injured

1134
00:55:33,960 --> 00:55:36,400
Speaker 2: and broke up, you know. I want to live my life,

1135
00:55:36,440 --> 00:55:38,640
Speaker 2: you know, and take care of my family. And sure

1136
00:55:38,719 --> 00:55:40,680
Speaker 2: enough they so many people asked me, when are you

1137
00:55:40,760 --> 00:55:42,279
Speaker 2: coming back? I just got back down on my knees

1138
00:55:42,280 --> 00:55:45,120
Speaker 2: and said, God, is this you speaking to me? Do

1139
00:55:45,200 --> 00:55:48,200
Speaker 2: you want me to go back? Because if you want

1140
00:55:48,200 --> 00:55:49,560
Speaker 2: me to go back, I'll do it. But other than that,

1141
00:55:49,640 --> 00:55:53,160
Speaker 2: I'm not going back. And so I said, give me

1142
00:55:53,200 --> 00:55:55,960
Speaker 2: a sign. If I'm supposed to go back, give me

1143
00:55:56,000 --> 00:55:57,600
Speaker 2: a sign. Half teams called me up because I told

1144
00:55:57,600 --> 00:56:00,000
Speaker 2: the teams, don't call me, I'm not coming back. Sure enough,

1145
00:56:00,120 --> 00:56:04,760
Speaker 2: Jeff Fisher, Tennessee Titans called me up and said, hey, Randall,

1146
00:56:05,200 --> 00:56:07,800
Speaker 2: I want you to come and help out with Eric McNair,

1147
00:56:07,840 --> 00:56:10,160
Speaker 2: the lady Eric McNair. I want you to come and

1148
00:56:10,200 --> 00:56:14,680
Speaker 2: be his like guy. And I said all right. And

1149
00:56:14,719 --> 00:56:17,840
Speaker 2: I said, well, God, I'm going back, but I'm not

1150
00:56:17,880 --> 00:56:19,719
Speaker 2: going back on my own. I'm leaning on you one

1151
00:56:20,080 --> 00:56:23,520
Speaker 2: percent because I really didn't want to go back because

1152
00:56:23,600 --> 00:56:25,520
Speaker 2: I just was done with it, you know, I didn't

1153
00:56:25,560 --> 00:56:27,759
Speaker 2: like to being criticized so much, and it just really

1154
00:56:28,120 --> 00:56:31,160
Speaker 2: it really like it took a toll on me emotionally

1155
00:56:31,200 --> 00:56:34,640
Speaker 2: and mentally. And so I happened to go to Super

1156
00:56:34,640 --> 00:56:38,440
Speaker 2: Bowl and I was working out in the gym and

1157
00:56:38,480 --> 00:56:40,960
Speaker 2: this man came up to me, Keith Johnson. He says,

1158
00:56:41,000 --> 00:56:42,640
Speaker 2: you're Randall County and said yep. He says, I'm the

1159
00:56:42,719 --> 00:56:46,600
Speaker 2: chaplain for the Minnesota Vikings, Keith Johnson. And he says,

1160
00:56:46,680 --> 00:56:48,160
Speaker 2: he says, what you're doing working out? And I said,

1161
00:56:48,239 --> 00:56:51,839
Speaker 2: I'm making my comeback. He said, oh, that's great. I'm

1162
00:56:51,840 --> 00:56:56,399
Speaker 2: going to tell Denny Green and I'm like, so, I'm

1163
00:56:56,440 --> 00:57:00,080
Speaker 2: about to sign with DITKA with the New Orleans Saints

1164
00:57:00,120 --> 00:57:02,600
Speaker 2: and they offered me six seventy five, which was kind

1165
00:57:02,640 --> 00:57:05,239
Speaker 2: of weird because he wanted me to be the starting

1166
00:57:05,320 --> 00:57:07,359
Speaker 2: quarterback and that wasn't even up to par back then,

1167
00:57:07,960 --> 00:57:09,839
Speaker 2: and so he said, look, take it or leave it,

1168
00:57:10,239 --> 00:57:12,319
Speaker 2: and so I said, I'm going to just take one trip.

1169
00:57:12,440 --> 00:57:14,719
Speaker 2: He said, well, you better let me know quick. Went

1170
00:57:14,760 --> 00:57:17,800
Speaker 2: to Dinny Green. Dinny Green said, look, Randall, we want

1171
00:57:17,840 --> 00:57:20,560
Speaker 2: you here. You're going to be our backup and we'll

1172
00:57:20,600 --> 00:57:22,960
Speaker 2: give you five hundred and twenty five thousand to be

1173
00:57:23,040 --> 00:57:26,200
Speaker 2: the backup quarterback. But you know, Brad Johnson's our quarterback,

1174
00:57:26,240 --> 00:57:28,760
Speaker 2: and you know, if we need you, we'll put you

1175
00:57:28,800 --> 00:57:31,920
Speaker 2: in there. I said, okay, talked to my wife and

1176
00:57:31,960 --> 00:57:34,439
Speaker 2: we ended up signing with them. Yeah, so he brought

1177
00:57:34,480 --> 00:57:36,760
Speaker 2: me out and then you know, the rest was history.

1178
00:57:37,080 --> 00:57:38,280
Speaker 2: It would have been great if we could have won

1179
00:57:38,320 --> 00:57:40,280
Speaker 2: the Super Bowl that year. It just wasn't. It wasn't

1180
00:57:40,320 --> 00:57:40,840
Speaker 2: God's timing.

1181
00:57:40,920 --> 00:57:42,560
Speaker 1: We're going to talk about that season though.

1182
00:57:43,800 --> 00:57:47,200
Speaker 3: Randy Moss Turkey Day Game three catches for one hundred

1183
00:57:47,200 --> 00:57:48,600
Speaker 3: and sixty yards and three touchdown.

1184
00:57:48,920 --> 00:57:49,720
Speaker 1: How special was he?

1185
00:57:50,880 --> 00:57:56,040
Speaker 2: Randy six foot four and three quarters four three forty

1186
00:57:56,800 --> 00:58:02,480
Speaker 2: hand eye coordination out of this world and just just

1187
00:58:03,200 --> 00:58:06,840
Speaker 2: a beast. He made a difference in a lot of

1188
00:58:06,960 --> 00:58:12,720
Speaker 2: quarterbacks careers. And because he was tall and fast and

1189
00:58:12,840 --> 00:58:17,640
Speaker 2: had great hand eye coordination, I could literally lay it

1190
00:58:17,640 --> 00:58:19,320
Speaker 2: out their ten yards in front of him. We had

1191
00:58:19,360 --> 00:58:21,960
Speaker 2: this rule, if you drop back and you're throwing a bomb,

1192
00:58:22,680 --> 00:58:26,160
Speaker 2: it's forty and five from the sideline. With Randy it

1193
00:58:26,200 --> 00:58:28,680
Speaker 2: was fifty. So we would launch it fifty years out

1194
00:58:28,720 --> 00:58:31,360
Speaker 2: there and he'd run underneath it. He'd run past two

1195
00:58:31,400 --> 00:58:34,600
Speaker 2: deep zone. I mean yeah, he would really run past

1196
00:58:34,640 --> 00:58:37,760
Speaker 2: two deep zone. And so when they were running too deep,

1197
00:58:37,800 --> 00:58:39,760
Speaker 2: which most of everybody in the NFL was doing, I said,

1198
00:58:39,760 --> 00:58:41,360
Speaker 2: I could just throw it over the safety's head and

1199
00:58:41,400 --> 00:58:44,560
Speaker 2: Randy's going to be there. So we started doing that

1200
00:58:44,960 --> 00:58:48,280
Speaker 2: and people would be shocked. So I would drop back

1201
00:58:48,280 --> 00:58:50,480
Speaker 2: and I look off and the load that thing up

1202
00:58:50,480 --> 00:58:54,120
Speaker 2: and launch it and he'd be able to go get it.

1203
00:58:54,480 --> 00:58:56,720
Speaker 1: Chris Carter as well, Right did you have? Did you play? Chris?

1204
00:58:56,840 --> 00:58:58,440
Speaker 2: It was Chris with you in Philly.

1205
00:58:58,480 --> 00:59:00,960
Speaker 1: Philly First. Right was like reunited with him.

1206
00:59:01,240 --> 00:59:01,760
Speaker 2: It was great.

1207
00:59:02,520 --> 00:59:04,600
Speaker 1: I don't think he gets the respect he deserves as

1208
00:59:04,640 --> 00:59:05,080
Speaker 1: a receiver.

1209
00:59:05,400 --> 00:59:08,800
Speaker 2: He's a Hall of Famer, thank god. But you know,

1210
00:59:09,280 --> 00:59:12,840
Speaker 2: Chris was that guy who he was like a coach.

1211
00:59:12,600 --> 00:59:13,160
Speaker 1: On the field.

1212
00:59:13,240 --> 00:59:14,520
Speaker 2: When you went on the field, he was going to

1213
00:59:14,560 --> 00:59:16,520
Speaker 2: put pressure on you. I remember I was telling somebody

1214
00:59:16,520 --> 00:59:19,160
Speaker 2: this the other day, yesterday, I said, there was no

1215
00:59:19,240 --> 00:59:21,320
Speaker 2: today in practice. I was telling him, I said, you know,

1216
00:59:21,440 --> 00:59:23,000
Speaker 2: there was so much pressure when I played for the

1217
00:59:23,040 --> 00:59:25,720
Speaker 2: Minnesota Vikings. I said, you had to be perfect on

1218
00:59:25,800 --> 00:59:29,040
Speaker 2: every play and on the offense if you didn't put

1219
00:59:29,040 --> 00:59:30,560
Speaker 2: the ball right it was supposed to be. Chris was

1220
00:59:30,560 --> 00:59:32,560
Speaker 2: like like, come on, man, let's go. And I mean

1221
00:59:32,560 --> 00:59:35,800
Speaker 2: it was like that every play. So we worked so

1222
00:59:36,080 --> 00:59:38,680
Speaker 2: hard and we were perfectionists. And it's because he was

1223
00:59:38,680 --> 00:59:43,520
Speaker 2: a leader on the field and he expected excellence. And

1224
00:59:43,680 --> 00:59:45,800
Speaker 2: you know he would be a great coach. I tell

1225
00:59:45,800 --> 00:59:47,480
Speaker 2: you he could probably take a team to the NFL.

1226
00:59:47,600 --> 00:59:49,760
Speaker 2: I mean an NFL team to the Super Bowl. I

1227
00:59:49,800 --> 00:59:52,000
Speaker 2: think that his demeanor is so deep like that.

1228
00:59:51,920 --> 00:59:54,200
Speaker 1: You guys, when your running back Robert Smith, Robert he

1229
00:59:54,320 --> 00:59:59,400
Speaker 1: was tough. Oh yes, he was tough and a good yes,

1230
00:59:59,520 --> 01:00:01,080
Speaker 1: big too, like six two sixty.

1231
01:00:00,840 --> 01:00:03,040
Speaker 2: Three, yes, track step out there. Yeah he was. He

1232
01:00:03,080 --> 01:00:05,760
Speaker 2: was at Ohio State. Yeah. I just called him about

1233
01:00:05,760 --> 01:00:07,440
Speaker 2: maybe a month ago and just talked to him. It's

1234
01:00:07,520 --> 01:00:09,640
Speaker 2: just like I just reminisced I'd be handing him to

1235
01:00:09,640 --> 01:00:11,479
Speaker 2: the ball the next thing, and oh he scored again.

1236
01:00:12,480 --> 01:00:15,000
Speaker 2: Made my job easy. Yeah.

1237
01:00:15,080 --> 01:00:18,160
Speaker 3: Do you think that year when y'all went fifteen to

1238
01:00:18,240 --> 01:00:21,560
Speaker 3: one and was upset of by Atlanta and over time,

1239
01:00:21,600 --> 01:00:23,000
Speaker 3: do you think that was your best shot to get

1240
01:00:22,920 --> 01:00:23,320
Speaker 3: in the chip?

1241
01:00:23,960 --> 01:00:28,040
Speaker 2: Yes? And mine for sure. Yeah, you know, we had

1242
01:00:28,080 --> 01:00:31,520
Speaker 2: it all offensively. We were like the San Diego Chargers

1243
01:00:31,560 --> 01:00:34,160
Speaker 2: with Dan Fouts back in the day, where we would

1244
01:00:34,160 --> 01:00:35,880
Speaker 2: put a lot of points on the board and it

1245
01:00:35,960 --> 01:00:38,720
Speaker 2: was coaching. Brian Billick was just an amazing coach. He

1246
01:00:38,800 --> 01:00:43,320
Speaker 2: knew our talents and he could just pick plays for

1247
01:00:43,440 --> 01:00:47,720
Speaker 2: everybody and the plays worked, and if they didn't work,

1248
01:00:48,080 --> 01:00:50,080
Speaker 2: it wasn't like he would get on your case. I

1249
01:00:50,120 --> 01:00:52,720
Speaker 2: remember one time I asked him, I said, he said

1250
01:00:52,720 --> 01:00:54,400
Speaker 2: to me, he says, rand what play you want to call?

1251
01:00:54,440 --> 01:00:57,400
Speaker 2: I said, whatever you want to call. I said, I

1252
01:00:57,480 --> 01:01:01,200
Speaker 2: trust you're a great coach, and whatever you call, that's

1253
01:01:01,240 --> 01:01:04,040
Speaker 2: what I'm going to execute. And that's the kind of

1254
01:01:04,080 --> 01:01:06,200
Speaker 2: coach we had. So it was it was amazing having

1255
01:01:06,280 --> 01:01:09,280
Speaker 2: Randy and Robert Smith and I mean Jake Read and

1256
01:01:09,320 --> 01:01:12,880
Speaker 2: all of our offensive line, you know, was that offensive

1257
01:01:12,920 --> 01:01:16,000
Speaker 2: line is? I still think those guys, you know.

1258
01:01:16,120 --> 01:01:18,280
Speaker 1: Post career. We got a chance to do with Eric

1259
01:01:18,320 --> 01:01:20,240
Speaker 1: Dierson about a month ago, and he really opened our

1260
01:01:20,280 --> 01:01:23,360
Speaker 1: eyes to the health insurance and the pension issues that

1261
01:01:23,560 --> 01:01:26,120
Speaker 1: the NFL has. What are your thoughts on it?

1262
01:01:26,240 --> 01:01:30,280
Speaker 2: I try to stay out of the politics. I like

1263
01:01:30,360 --> 01:01:34,320
Speaker 2: to keep relationships. Eric is a good friend of mine.

1264
01:01:34,320 --> 01:01:36,280
Speaker 2: He was in my wedding. We had a great time.

1265
01:01:36,360 --> 01:01:38,640
Speaker 2: He's still a great friend. Just talked to him. He

1266
01:01:38,680 --> 01:01:40,400
Speaker 2: just texted me a couple of days ago. He texted me,

1267
01:01:40,400 --> 01:01:44,000
Speaker 2: he says, man, I'm watching your highlights. I'm like, I'm watching.

1268
01:01:45,040 --> 01:01:47,320
Speaker 2: But we do that as players. You know, you got

1269
01:01:47,440 --> 01:01:50,080
Speaker 2: respect for each other absolutely, But when it gets to

1270
01:01:50,400 --> 01:01:52,919
Speaker 2: a lot of that, the NFL did me no wrong.

1271
01:01:53,840 --> 01:01:56,560
Speaker 2: Can things be better? I mean, I look at my pension,

1272
01:01:56,600 --> 01:01:58,040
Speaker 2: I look at my four oh one K and then

1273
01:01:58,320 --> 01:02:01,880
Speaker 2: I'm like, whoo. You know, I'm grateful, so I don't.

1274
01:02:02,000 --> 01:02:04,520
Speaker 2: I mean these guys that are getting you know, cts,

1275
01:02:04,680 --> 01:02:08,880
Speaker 2: or they're getting these these brain issues. That is real,

1276
01:02:09,480 --> 01:02:11,720
Speaker 2: and and and and guys need to be taken care of.

1277
01:02:11,920 --> 01:02:13,960
Speaker 2: It's they need to go back to the older players

1278
01:02:13,960 --> 01:02:15,880
Speaker 2: who are still living, you know, the guys that are

1279
01:02:15,880 --> 01:02:18,360
Speaker 2: probably in their seventies and their eighties, and they need

1280
01:02:18,360 --> 01:02:20,880
Speaker 2: to like do something for them, just like I guess

1281
01:02:20,880 --> 01:02:23,400
Speaker 2: they're doing that in college with this nil thing. They

1282
01:02:23,440 --> 01:02:25,560
Speaker 2: need to go back to those guys because like O. J.

1283
01:02:25,680 --> 01:02:28,240
Speaker 2: Bragants is a good friend of mine and we were

1284
01:02:28,280 --> 01:02:32,000
Speaker 2: in ministry together. He's you know, been fighting for his life,

1285
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Speaker 2: you know, in a wheelchair, and some guys have passed away.

1286
01:02:35,880 --> 01:02:38,880
Speaker 2: Andre Waters Junior say, these guys have passed away, you know,

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Speaker 2: and at young ages, you know, and it's like I

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01:02:42,560 --> 01:02:45,720
Speaker 2: can understand where Eric is. I'm just as not as

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Speaker 2: vocal as Eric.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, chause Chris Paul did that, and they did it

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Speaker 3: for the retired players and the older guys. Make sure

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Speaker 3: they all had insurance. Again, we have lifetime insurance. So

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01:02:56,560 --> 01:02:58,760
Speaker 3: they made sure the guy came before us. They made

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Speaker 3: sure they got it too.

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Speaker 1: So yeah, good.

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Speaker 2: Yeah. The medical is really important because I think that

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01:03:04,400 --> 01:03:06,760
Speaker 2: like Eric's been diagnosed with a couple of things. I'm

1298
01:03:06,760 --> 01:03:11,960
Speaker 2: not really sure what it is, but yeah, just give

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Speaker 2: him a better, better life your church.

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Speaker 1: I got a chance to visit it Remnant Ministry Remnant

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01:03:19,440 --> 01:03:24,280
Speaker 1: Ministry twenty years. You've been doing it. That's nice building.

1302
01:03:24,320 --> 01:03:25,840
Speaker 1: Gotta you show me the house across as you got

1303
01:03:25,880 --> 01:03:28,720
Speaker 1: a nice little fortress over there. See the basketball court,

1304
01:03:28,760 --> 01:03:30,520
Speaker 1: I didn't get a chance to Yeah, I'm at a

1305
01:03:30,520 --> 01:03:33,240
Speaker 1: full court. Yeah, it explained how that came about. And

1306
01:03:33,440 --> 01:03:36,040
Speaker 1: and you know how much you enjoy giving you a

1307
01:03:36,160 --> 01:03:36,800
Speaker 1: chance to do that.

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Speaker 2: I was retired in nineteen ninety five, ninety six or

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01:03:40,280 --> 01:03:43,760
Speaker 2: something like ninety five, and I was working in Marvel

1310
01:03:43,760 --> 01:03:47,200
Speaker 2: and grand Field doing countertops and florin. And the guy

1311
01:03:47,240 --> 01:03:49,320
Speaker 2: who was my partner, well he wasn't my partner then

1312
01:03:49,360 --> 01:03:52,040
Speaker 2: he was, you know, yeah, he wasn't my partner. Joey said,

1313
01:03:52,040 --> 01:03:55,080
Speaker 2: hey man, we should start a Bible study. And I said, yeah,

1314
01:03:55,080 --> 01:03:57,600
Speaker 2: who's gonna teach? You say you are? That's what you mean?

1315
01:03:57,760 --> 01:03:58,040
Speaker 1: I am?

1316
01:03:58,080 --> 01:04:00,800
Speaker 2: He says, you know, more than me fell for it.

1317
01:04:01,960 --> 01:04:04,000
Speaker 2: And so we would have two or three guys and

1318
01:04:04,040 --> 01:04:05,760
Speaker 2: we would have Bible study. Next thing, you know, it

1319
01:04:05,880 --> 01:04:10,560
Speaker 2: was thirteen thirty. Then it went to fifty to ninety.

1320
01:04:11,400 --> 01:04:14,479
Speaker 2: And my pastor, the late John Michaels from Calvary Chapel, said,

1321
01:04:15,240 --> 01:04:17,920
Speaker 2: we've got to get you ordained because this is not

1322
01:04:18,160 --> 01:04:21,240
Speaker 2: a Bible study. You have over fifty people. It's a church,

1323
01:04:22,400 --> 01:04:24,840
Speaker 2: so we have to get you ordained. I'm like, oh God,

1324
01:04:24,880 --> 01:04:28,360
Speaker 2: what is he talking about if he's never done anything

1325
01:04:28,400 --> 01:04:30,920
Speaker 2: wrong in my life. Until you said that I'm a pastor,

1326
01:04:31,480 --> 01:04:33,960
Speaker 2: I wasn't trying to be a pastor. And so I

1327
01:04:34,040 --> 01:04:36,120
Speaker 2: kind of avoided him for about two years. You know,

1328
01:04:36,200 --> 01:04:38,080
Speaker 2: still stay friend, went to church and everything, and then

1329
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Speaker 2: he said, Hey, we're having an ordination on the twenty

1330
01:04:40,640 --> 01:04:42,680
Speaker 2: eighth of March, the day after my birthday. We'll see

1331
01:04:42,720 --> 01:04:45,120
Speaker 2: you and he said, this is thirty days in advance.

1332
01:04:45,160 --> 01:04:47,040
Speaker 2: He says, you need to pray about getting ordained. So

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01:04:47,080 --> 01:04:48,320
Speaker 2: I said, honey, what do you think? She said, I

1334
01:04:48,320 --> 01:04:51,240
Speaker 2: don't want to be the wife of a pastor. Nobody

1335
01:04:51,560 --> 01:04:53,520
Speaker 2: thinks like that unless you go to seminary. I didn't

1336
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Speaker 2: go to seminary. I've been in Bible College. No, I've

1337
01:04:55,840 --> 01:04:59,000
Speaker 2: just been taught, and I've hung out with the chaplain

1338
01:04:59,080 --> 01:05:02,680
Speaker 2: the vikings and things like that. So he says, so

1339
01:05:02,760 --> 01:05:06,080
Speaker 2: are you going to receive And I said, yes, pastor.

1340
01:05:06,680 --> 01:05:11,280
Speaker 2: So that was two thousand and four, two thousand and six,

1341
01:05:12,120 --> 01:05:15,160
Speaker 2: and the Bible study went to a high school and

1342
01:05:15,200 --> 01:05:17,280
Speaker 2: it began to grow. We went to one hundred and

1343
01:05:17,320 --> 01:05:20,120
Speaker 2: forty people. Then God gave me a vision cause we started.

1344
01:05:20,160 --> 01:05:22,400
Speaker 2: We did a building fund and we built a church

1345
01:05:22,560 --> 01:05:25,720
Speaker 2: seventeen thousand square feet with five hundred seats, and God

1346
01:05:25,760 --> 01:05:28,480
Speaker 2: gave me a vision of the church being completely filled up.

1347
01:05:29,000 --> 01:05:31,720
Speaker 2: The first service we went there, it was completely filled up,

1348
01:05:31,720 --> 01:05:34,080
Speaker 2: and I went up front and tears came to my

1349
01:05:34,120 --> 01:05:37,440
Speaker 2: eyes and I'm like, God, you showed me this. And

1350
01:05:37,480 --> 01:05:39,080
Speaker 2: so the next week we had one hundred and eighty

1351
01:05:39,080 --> 01:05:42,680
Speaker 2: people in our congregation grew forty people that week, and

1352
01:05:42,760 --> 01:05:45,160
Speaker 2: now we're up to three services. You know, we probably

1353
01:05:45,160 --> 01:05:47,440
Speaker 2: got about maybe a thousand, but we have you know,

1354
01:05:47,560 --> 01:05:49,920
Speaker 2: a lot of people that watch us online the Remnant

1355
01:05:49,960 --> 01:05:54,360
Speaker 2: Ministries on Facebook, Rented Ministries Christian Church, and on our

1356
01:05:54,440 --> 01:05:57,320
Speaker 2: site is Remnant Ministries dot net. And there are a

1357
01:05:57,320 --> 01:06:00,840
Speaker 2: lot of people who support us online as well. And

1358
01:06:00,880 --> 01:06:03,640
Speaker 2: it's like I just keep moving forward. My wife is

1359
01:06:03,680 --> 01:06:06,919
Speaker 2: a system fastor in church because it's founded by God

1360
01:06:07,040 --> 01:06:10,840
Speaker 2: doing it through us. But we just love people, you know,

1361
01:06:11,000 --> 01:06:13,120
Speaker 2: and when you come to the church, you're gonna feel

1362
01:06:13,120 --> 01:06:15,680
Speaker 2: that you're love. Everybody's gonna hug you, hug you to death.

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01:06:16,120 --> 01:06:18,600
Speaker 1: You know, and great energy in there. Yeah, and it's

1364
01:06:18,600 --> 01:06:20,760
Speaker 1: still interesting too to kind of obviously be a fan

1365
01:06:20,800 --> 01:06:22,640
Speaker 1: of you and then come to see you preach. And

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01:06:22,640 --> 01:06:27,880
Speaker 1: then people are still blowing away that it's you. Obviously

1367
01:06:27,960 --> 01:06:29,440
Speaker 1: you're in his church. But I heard probably three or

1368
01:06:29,440 --> 01:06:31,959
Speaker 1: four that's random, godamn, like, yeah, you're at this church.

1369
01:06:32,880 --> 01:06:36,120
Speaker 1: I don't even notice that obviously. I'm sitting back listening

1370
01:06:36,120 --> 01:06:37,760
Speaker 1: to the word. And then when everyone's getting like you said,

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01:06:37,760 --> 01:06:39,400
Speaker 1: everyone gets up and hugged when it's over, and I

1372
01:06:39,400 --> 01:06:41,640
Speaker 1: came to find you. But passing through, I heard a

1373
01:06:41,640 --> 01:06:44,360
Speaker 1: couple of people That'sdomyam. A couple of people said hello

1374
01:06:44,480 --> 01:06:46,000
Speaker 1: to me. But I just thought it just brought a

1375
01:06:46,000 --> 01:06:48,280
Speaker 1: smile to my face because it's just like, you know,

1376
01:06:48,400 --> 01:06:51,440
Speaker 1: like my favorite quarterback is a preacher. It's amazing.

1377
01:06:51,760 --> 01:06:54,680
Speaker 2: Yeah. Yeah, And I told the congregation this on a

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01:06:54,720 --> 01:06:57,920
Speaker 2: Wednesday night. I said, you know what, I love what

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01:06:58,040 --> 01:07:01,439
Speaker 2: I do. I said, I have an office now because

1380
01:07:01,480 --> 01:07:03,280
Speaker 2: I didn't have an office. You know, I got an

1381
01:07:03,320 --> 01:07:05,080
Speaker 2: office probably five or seven years ago. But we've been

1382
01:07:05,080 --> 01:07:07,840
Speaker 2: there twenty years and we keep growing and I'm in

1383
01:07:07,880 --> 01:07:11,560
Speaker 2: the dungeon. I'm in the amplifier room. Helped back in

1384
01:07:11,600 --> 01:07:13,240
Speaker 2: the room. I got to get a candle or something

1385
01:07:13,280 --> 01:07:16,200
Speaker 2: to like, and sure enough I told the people. I said,

1386
01:07:16,240 --> 01:07:18,960
Speaker 2: I love you guys, and I said I love what

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01:07:19,000 --> 01:07:21,040
Speaker 2: I get to do. And I said, you need to

1388
01:07:21,080 --> 01:07:23,640
Speaker 2: love what you do. I said, because it's all for

1389
01:07:23,680 --> 01:07:26,880
Speaker 2: God and there's a reward in the end. I said,

1390
01:07:26,880 --> 01:07:29,520
Speaker 2: it's only what you do for Christ to last. And

1391
01:07:29,560 --> 01:07:32,480
Speaker 2: I said, you know, enjoy what you do. And you

1392
01:07:32,520 --> 01:07:35,800
Speaker 2: guys do a great job here. Everybody our worship minister.

1393
01:07:35,880 --> 01:07:38,440
Speaker 2: She says, I know who that is. And then she

1394
01:07:38,560 --> 01:07:40,840
Speaker 2: was joking about it again today and I said, I'm

1395
01:07:40,840 --> 01:07:43,520
Speaker 2: going over there with the with my guys, and I

1396
01:07:43,560 --> 01:07:46,280
Speaker 2: told him about you, and they said, we watched that show.

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01:07:46,520 --> 01:07:49,000
Speaker 1: Yeah. They were retaliated. Definitely. People are stopping me. So

1398
01:07:49,160 --> 01:07:51,200
Speaker 1: we love your show. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

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01:07:51,280 --> 01:07:54,200
Speaker 2: And it's like, you know, everybody was, yeah, when he

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01:07:54,280 --> 01:07:56,520
Speaker 2: came into the church, you got to coming next time.

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01:07:57,000 --> 01:07:59,400
Speaker 1: I will gotta hang out with us. It was a

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01:07:59,400 --> 01:08:01,400
Speaker 1: spur of the moong. We finished filming early on, like,

1403
01:08:01,400 --> 01:08:03,040
Speaker 1: I'm gona run the church real quick because you gave

1404
01:08:03,080 --> 01:08:05,400
Speaker 1: me the get the time. You had three services on Sundays.

1405
01:08:05,480 --> 01:08:07,280
Speaker 1: I think I could make the eleven. My daughter got

1406
01:08:07,280 --> 01:08:08,680
Speaker 1: baptized Saturday.

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01:08:08,840 --> 01:08:09,800
Speaker 2: Oh congrats.

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01:08:09,920 --> 01:08:12,360
Speaker 1: Yeah, I had to get baptized. To be honest with yourself,

1409
01:08:12,440 --> 01:08:13,360
Speaker 1: I'm working towards that.

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01:08:14,160 --> 01:08:15,240
Speaker 2: I want to baptize you.

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01:08:15,400 --> 01:08:16,679
Speaker 1: Okay, Yeah that's the deal.

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01:08:16,840 --> 01:08:17,080
Speaker 2: Yeah.

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01:08:17,320 --> 01:08:19,840
Speaker 1: I got two sons that need to be baptized too,

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01:08:19,840 --> 01:08:21,719
Speaker 1: So we make it. We're gonna make it the whole thing. Yeah,

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01:08:21,840 --> 01:08:23,599
Speaker 1: I would love that. Yeah, that'd be great.

1416
01:08:23,680 --> 01:08:24,160
Speaker 2: I love that.

1417
01:08:24,960 --> 01:08:27,200
Speaker 1: Quick hitters before we get before we get the quick hitters.

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01:08:27,360 --> 01:08:30,960
Speaker 1: I forgot. We didn't ask this, but you're scrambling around

1419
01:08:31,000 --> 01:08:33,799
Speaker 1: in the end zone sixty yard bombs after Fred Barnett.

1420
01:08:34,160 --> 01:08:36,400
Speaker 1: Who's that two? And it was like a ninety seven

1421
01:08:36,479 --> 01:08:37,320
Speaker 1: yard touchdown? Right?

1422
01:08:37,880 --> 01:08:40,759
Speaker 2: Yes, it was against Buffalo Buffalo Bruce Smith.

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01:08:41,040 --> 01:08:42,040
Speaker 1: Yeah.

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01:08:42,080 --> 01:08:44,439
Speaker 2: I dropped back and I knew he was coming, and

1425
01:08:44,960 --> 01:08:47,559
Speaker 2: he knew that. I knew he was coming, right, but

1426
01:08:47,640 --> 01:08:48,719
Speaker 2: I wasn't gonna get sacked.

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01:08:49,000 --> 01:08:49,920
Speaker 1: That was in the end zone.

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01:08:50,120 --> 01:08:53,200
Speaker 2: Yes, we were like the five yards, yes, And I

1429
01:08:53,280 --> 01:08:55,759
Speaker 2: just remember dropping back and I said, all right, whoa,

1430
01:08:56,520 --> 01:08:59,680
Speaker 2: and I'm looking this way, and I feel.

1431
01:08:59,560 --> 01:09:03,600
Speaker 1: Bruce breathing down your neck and then I ducked.

1432
01:09:03,479 --> 01:09:06,200
Speaker 2: And he flew over me and then I rolled out

1433
01:09:06,240 --> 01:09:08,000
Speaker 2: and I said, well, might as well punt this thing.

1434
01:09:08,280 --> 01:09:11,240
Speaker 2: So I just threw it. It was windy, and I

1435
01:09:11,320 --> 01:09:13,720
Speaker 2: just threw it down the field and Freddy caught it

1436
01:09:13,760 --> 01:09:15,760
Speaker 2: and I went like, oh my god, they're not going

1437
01:09:15,840 --> 01:09:19,600
Speaker 2: to catch Freddy sprinter and he took it into the

1438
01:09:19,720 --> 01:09:21,280
Speaker 2: end zone, act like he was going.

1439
01:09:21,080 --> 01:09:24,759
Speaker 1: Through the table with ninety five yard touchdown.

1440
01:09:25,240 --> 01:09:28,200
Speaker 2: Yes. Yes, And I remember going to the sideline and

1441
01:09:28,320 --> 01:09:31,000
Speaker 2: Seth Joyner came up to me and he was.

1442
01:09:30,960 --> 01:09:34,519
Speaker 1: Like the greatest place I've ever seen. Yeah, he was

1443
01:09:34,560 --> 01:09:38,280
Speaker 1: like just like this right. It's like I don't know. Yeah,

1444
01:09:38,439 --> 01:09:40,120
Speaker 1: I was a little kid. I remember seeing that. Man,

1445
01:09:40,160 --> 01:09:40,719
Speaker 1: that's beautiful.

1446
01:09:40,760 --> 01:09:42,400
Speaker 2: I reg if Freddy would have dropped it and we

1447
01:09:42,439 --> 01:09:43,479
Speaker 2: wouldn't be talking for it.

1448
01:09:43,520 --> 01:09:46,960
Speaker 1: Right quick, Kidter's first thing to come into mind. Let

1449
01:09:47,000 --> 01:09:50,000
Speaker 1: me know what the players you've played against. Who's your corey,

1450
01:09:50,000 --> 01:09:52,400
Speaker 1: who's your running back, who's your receiver? And who's your

1451
01:09:52,400 --> 01:09:53,040
Speaker 1: tight ends?

1452
01:09:53,600 --> 01:09:56,479
Speaker 2: Yes, like I can't even answer that one too many?

1453
01:09:57,240 --> 01:09:59,400
Speaker 1: How about this? Just do the different guys you didn't

1454
01:09:59,400 --> 01:10:01,400
Speaker 1: play with who were some great so you would have

1455
01:10:01,520 --> 01:10:03,760
Speaker 1: liked to had in the backfield, had a tight end

1456
01:10:03,760 --> 01:10:06,200
Speaker 1: and had out wide, give me a tight end. Two

1457
01:10:06,280 --> 01:10:07,320
Speaker 1: receivers and a running back.

1458
01:10:08,520 --> 01:10:11,400
Speaker 2: That is so hard. Oh, because I played with so

1459
01:10:11,439 --> 01:10:18,439
Speaker 2: many great guys. Oh my gosh, i'd go, yeah, that's.

1460
01:10:18,200 --> 01:10:20,519
Speaker 1: Too hard for guys didn't play with.

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01:10:20,920 --> 01:10:25,360
Speaker 2: Still, that's hard. There's so many guys I respect, and

1462
01:10:25,360 --> 01:10:27,720
Speaker 2: I'm like, man, because I would say Jerry Rice is

1463
01:10:27,760 --> 01:10:31,360
Speaker 2: a wide receiver. You know, it's like Jerry was the

1464
01:10:31,400 --> 01:10:35,240
Speaker 2: man we came out together. Okay, Barry Sanders, but I

1465
01:10:35,240 --> 01:10:37,600
Speaker 2: played with him in the Pro Bowl. Barry would be

1466
01:10:37,600 --> 01:10:40,439
Speaker 2: in the backfield. I'm sorry, you got to have him

1467
01:10:40,439 --> 01:10:41,320
Speaker 2: and Dickerson together.

1468
01:10:41,600 --> 01:10:44,160
Speaker 1: I'm not mad at that. Yeah.

1469
01:10:44,520 --> 01:10:49,040
Speaker 2: Yeah, they switch. They're in it all the time. Oh.

1470
01:10:49,120 --> 01:10:51,559
Speaker 2: I played with Ricky Waters, so I can't say Ricky Waters,

1471
01:10:52,080 --> 01:10:56,000
Speaker 2: Dion I'd have in there somewhere on the offense. He's

1472
01:10:56,120 --> 01:10:58,599
Speaker 2: got to be on the offense. Who else I have left?

1473
01:10:58,680 --> 01:10:59,120
Speaker 1: Tight end?

1474
01:10:59,520 --> 01:11:02,920
Speaker 2: All I got played with Mark Mark Uh. Oh yeah,

1475
01:11:03,000 --> 01:11:06,639
Speaker 2: so I can't say him Gates tight end Gates.

1476
01:11:06,680 --> 01:11:11,360
Speaker 1: Antonio Antonio was a beast. So Barry Sanders, Eric Dickerson

1477
01:11:12,280 --> 01:11:13,800
Speaker 1: deon Sanders that one ride.

1478
01:11:13,880 --> 01:11:15,880
Speaker 2: Jerry Well, he got to be somewhere on the field.

1479
01:11:15,640 --> 01:11:20,559
Speaker 1: Off Yeah, Jerry be there, Jared and then uh, Antonio Gates.

1480
01:11:20,560 --> 01:11:21,120
Speaker 1: That's solid.

1481
01:11:21,600 --> 01:11:25,800
Speaker 2: Yeah, funniest teammate you ever had, the funniest Oh my god,

1482
01:11:25,840 --> 01:11:27,479
Speaker 2: if he was here right now, we wouldn't be able

1483
01:11:27,479 --> 01:11:32,360
Speaker 2: to record. He's a Canadian player named Henry Gizmo Williams.

1484
01:11:33,840 --> 01:11:36,960
Speaker 2: See you don't remember running back. He was Edmonton Eskimos.

1485
01:11:36,960 --> 01:11:40,040
Speaker 2: He was receiving and a returner. He's all over YouTube

1486
01:11:40,040 --> 01:11:43,599
Speaker 2: all so, but Gizmo came in and he was five

1487
01:11:43,640 --> 01:11:47,479
Speaker 2: six hundred ninety pounds yoked up. We used to train

1488
01:11:47,560 --> 01:11:51,479
Speaker 2: together and he would bitch, frast I put my two

1489
01:11:51,520 --> 01:11:54,000
Speaker 2: plates on there and get a couple in. He put

1490
01:11:54,040 --> 01:11:56,240
Speaker 2: another one on there, throw a twenty five on there.

1491
01:11:56,240 --> 01:12:00,240
Speaker 2: I'm like, that's like five or something like three sixty five.

1492
01:12:00,280 --> 01:12:01,080
Speaker 2: I'm like, what are you doing?

1493
01:12:01,240 --> 01:12:05,400
Speaker 1: And he would just go like this little arms.

1494
01:12:05,680 --> 01:12:08,559
Speaker 2: But we were in a restaurant in Atlantic City, because

1495
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Speaker 2: we would go to Atlantic City and eat, and Gizmo

1496
01:12:11,000 --> 01:12:15,960
Speaker 2: had this noise he made and he would go and

1497
01:12:16,080 --> 01:12:19,040
Speaker 2: it was this noise man that would it would catch

1498
01:12:19,120 --> 01:12:23,000
Speaker 2: you off guard. And so we're in a restaurant and

1499
01:12:23,040 --> 01:12:25,280
Speaker 2: this is well to do restaurant, and he would do

1500
01:12:25,360 --> 01:12:29,800
Speaker 2: this thing where he would grab you and he would

1501
01:12:29,840 --> 01:12:34,120
Speaker 2: bite you on the shoulder. He would say, give me

1502
01:12:34,160 --> 01:12:36,960
Speaker 2: a bite, dog, and he would bite you, and you're going, hey,

1503
01:12:37,240 --> 01:12:43,280
Speaker 2: and didn't even hit that noise right after that. So

1504
01:12:43,360 --> 01:12:46,080
Speaker 2: we're in a restaurant and he used to tell jokes.

1505
01:12:46,120 --> 01:12:48,400
Speaker 2: He says, man, I was so poor. We used to

1506
01:12:48,479 --> 01:12:51,639
Speaker 2: go to Kentucky Fried Chicken and lick other people's fingers

1507
01:12:51,680 --> 01:12:53,800
Speaker 2: and stuff like. He would just say stuff like that

1508
01:12:53,840 --> 01:12:59,240
Speaker 2: all day, right, And so he did that, and then

1509
01:12:59,640 --> 01:13:03,280
Speaker 2: we're laughing so hard in the restaurant. He falls out

1510
01:13:03,280 --> 01:13:06,679
Speaker 2: on the floor and everyone in the restaurant starts laughing

1511
01:13:07,120 --> 01:13:09,639
Speaker 2: and they don't even know what they're laughing at. And

1512
01:13:09,680 --> 01:13:13,080
Speaker 2: somebody walks by and says, get I'll have whatever he had, right,

1513
01:13:13,240 --> 01:13:16,439
Speaker 2: So they thought he was drinking. Didn't drink right, funny,

1514
01:13:16,560 --> 01:13:19,639
Speaker 2: And so everybody in the restaurant is just crying, laughing,

1515
01:13:19,640 --> 01:13:22,559
Speaker 2: and we would say, please stop because I can't breathe,

1516
01:13:22,840 --> 01:13:28,439
Speaker 2: and that's when he would bite you again. And the

1517
01:13:28,439 --> 01:13:32,599
Speaker 2: bunniest person in the world to me, and then Chris Tucker.

1518
01:13:32,640 --> 01:13:36,719
Speaker 2: Of course, Chris is just funny period, not even trying. Yes,

1519
01:13:36,920 --> 01:13:38,559
Speaker 2: you know, he's just funny.

1520
01:13:38,640 --> 01:13:42,000
Speaker 1: Naturally scariest defender you've ever faced. You face some bad

1521
01:13:42,080 --> 01:13:47,479
Speaker 1: ones Wilbur Marshall ooh Chicago yep. Mm hmm. You saw

1522
01:13:47,560 --> 01:13:50,120
Speaker 1: Mike Singletary too. They had a defense.

1523
01:13:50,160 --> 01:13:53,519
Speaker 2: I still remember playing against Singletary the first time, and

1524
01:13:53,560 --> 01:13:55,840
Speaker 2: I used to They would talk about his eyes rough,

1525
01:13:56,280 --> 01:13:58,280
Speaker 2: you know, and I was on the field and I

1526
01:13:58,320 --> 01:14:01,120
Speaker 2: was like, whit's twenty five he was doing that and

1527
01:14:01,120 --> 01:14:02,560
Speaker 2: I started laughing.

1528
01:14:02,200 --> 01:14:04,719
Speaker 1: Because his eyes would move like side the side, right. Yeah.

1529
01:14:04,920 --> 01:14:07,400
Speaker 2: It was like he was so intense and I was like,

1530
01:14:07,479 --> 01:14:10,559
Speaker 2: I laughed and it was like, man, that dude really

1531
01:14:10,760 --> 01:14:11,360
Speaker 2: is like that.

1532
01:14:12,080 --> 01:14:14,320
Speaker 1: I think the scaries was Randall on your team?

1533
01:14:14,560 --> 01:14:16,240
Speaker 2: Oh, we had we had some.

1534
01:14:16,439 --> 01:14:17,400
Speaker 1: He was scary.

1535
01:14:17,560 --> 01:14:21,800
Speaker 2: Yeah, Johnny Randall, the d D lineman. I just talked

1536
01:14:21,840 --> 01:14:24,679
Speaker 2: to him the other day. Yeah. He yeah. He was about

1537
01:14:24,720 --> 01:14:28,920
Speaker 2: six foot one and just completely muscular. He was just

1538
01:14:29,000 --> 01:14:30,400
Speaker 2: like Marshall.

1539
01:14:30,479 --> 01:14:33,400
Speaker 1: Yeah from Minnesota. Yep.

1540
01:14:33,960 --> 01:14:38,320
Speaker 2: But I'm telling you, if Wilbur hit you, his he

1541
01:14:38,520 --> 01:14:41,439
Speaker 2: was like the Nigerian nightmare at linebacker.

1542
01:14:41,240 --> 01:14:48,040
Speaker 1: Christ on the defensive line at the linebacker who Cadence, Oh.

1543
01:14:48,720 --> 01:14:52,760
Speaker 2: Yeah, it wasn't like it wasn't like the guy with

1544
01:14:52,880 --> 01:14:55,400
Speaker 2: the what's his name? He used to do all the

1545
01:14:55,439 --> 01:14:57,559
Speaker 2: hey over there, how are you doing today? I've been

1546
01:14:57,640 --> 01:14:59,680
Speaker 2: hitting the head a few times. He was with the

1547
01:14:59,720 --> 01:15:05,360
Speaker 2: Colt Peyton. Yeah, all that stuff he does, it's not real. No,

1548
01:15:05,479 --> 01:15:07,320
Speaker 2: you don't have time for all of that. It's a

1549
01:15:07,400 --> 01:15:10,400
Speaker 2: lot of dummy calls, is what it is. Yeah, it's down,

1550
01:15:10,479 --> 01:15:12,800
Speaker 2: said wife fifty eight. Whife fifty eight. Hut, you know,

1551
01:15:13,280 --> 01:15:15,559
Speaker 2: and you gotta you have to make audibles spur of

1552
01:15:15,560 --> 01:15:16,160
Speaker 2: the moment.

1553
01:15:16,000 --> 01:15:18,759
Speaker 1: And one album on repeat.

1554
01:15:18,840 --> 01:15:21,240
Speaker 2: It used to be be B and CC. Okay, yeah,

1555
01:15:21,320 --> 01:15:23,120
Speaker 2: I don't remember the name of the album, but it

1556
01:15:23,160 --> 01:15:24,519
Speaker 2: was b B and CC. I used to listen to

1557
01:15:24,560 --> 01:15:27,840
Speaker 2: them all the time, and I just like their their

1558
01:15:27,880 --> 01:15:34,240
Speaker 2: worship sincere so sincere child and crush childhood crush. I

1559
01:15:34,240 --> 01:15:36,559
Speaker 2: don't know. I just I love football so much.

1560
01:15:37,560 --> 01:15:39,240
Speaker 1: That was your girl? That was this girl?

1561
01:15:40,120 --> 01:15:40,599
Speaker 2: Football?

1562
01:15:40,760 --> 01:15:41,040
Speaker 1: Was it?

1563
01:15:41,360 --> 01:15:45,799
Speaker 2: Yeah? I guess I could say it was. Oh my gosh.

1564
01:15:45,840 --> 01:15:48,519
Speaker 2: She was a model, She was an actress. I can't

1565
01:15:48,520 --> 01:15:51,000
Speaker 2: think of her name though, but she ended up getting

1566
01:15:51,000 --> 01:15:52,680
Speaker 2: married each other. Those dreams went down to.

1567
01:15:53,560 --> 01:15:55,400
Speaker 3: If you could see one guest on our show, who

1568
01:15:55,479 --> 01:15:57,800
Speaker 3: would it be? But you have to help us get

1569
01:15:57,840 --> 01:15:59,679
Speaker 3: your answer on the show.

1570
01:16:00,080 --> 01:16:01,800
Speaker 1: Your friends, that do you think would be good on

1571
01:16:01,800 --> 01:16:02,240
Speaker 1: this show?

1572
01:16:02,520 --> 01:16:08,080
Speaker 2: Chris Tucker. Man, he would do it. Come, yeah, he

1573
01:16:08,120 --> 01:16:11,040
Speaker 2: would do it. Chris. I'm telling you. He golfs, we

1574
01:16:11,120 --> 01:16:13,320
Speaker 2: go golfing, he comes to town, he goes to church

1575
01:16:13,360 --> 01:16:13,880
Speaker 2: all the time.

1576
01:16:14,000 --> 01:16:15,479
Speaker 1: You guys built it, really, you were telling me that's

1577
01:16:15,479 --> 01:16:17,479
Speaker 1: not to cut you off. You built a really strong

1578
01:16:17,479 --> 01:16:18,519
Speaker 1: relationship with Chris Tucker.

1579
01:16:18,680 --> 01:16:18,960
Speaker 2: Yeah.

1580
01:16:19,080 --> 01:16:20,320
Speaker 1: Yeah, because he's real.

1581
01:16:21,320 --> 01:16:24,760
Speaker 2: You know, he stands for what's right. He's down to

1582
01:16:24,880 --> 01:16:29,040
Speaker 2: earth and it's not about money, it's not about fame.

1583
01:16:29,400 --> 01:16:32,800
Speaker 2: He loves everybody in public. You go in public and

1584
01:16:32,800 --> 01:16:34,880
Speaker 2: you're like, come on, Chris, let's go. Man. He's just

1585
01:16:34,920 --> 01:16:38,479
Speaker 2: shaking everybody's hands and talking to everybody. He doesn't shy

1586
01:16:38,520 --> 01:16:42,920
Speaker 2: away from people. He's nice and he's just down to earth.

1587
01:16:43,320 --> 01:16:45,799
Speaker 1: Chris. You heard that. Yeah, coming from the pastor himself

1588
01:16:45,840 --> 01:16:48,479
Speaker 1: full of well, Randon, we appreciate you, man. It was

1589
01:16:48,520 --> 01:16:50,960
Speaker 1: an honor to be able to sit down and spend

1590
01:16:50,960 --> 01:16:52,559
Speaker 1: some time with you on Sunday as well, get to

1591
01:16:52,600 --> 01:16:56,680
Speaker 1: know you and definitely looking forward to being baptized. I'm

1592
01:16:56,680 --> 01:17:00,479
Speaker 1: looking forward that. We'll definitely talk. Yeah, I appreciate that, man. Yeah,

1593
01:17:00,600 --> 01:17:03,840
Speaker 1: thank you Randall. Cutting here, let's a wrap from all

1594
01:17:03,840 --> 01:17:05,400
Speaker 1: the smoke you can catch US and all the Smoke

1595
01:17:05,479 --> 01:17:08,400
Speaker 1: Productions YouTube and the Draft Kings Network. See you guys

1596
01:17:08,400 --> 01:17:28,120
Speaker 1: next week. Mm hmmm, mm hmmm, mm hmmm mm hmmm.