Speaker 1: Hey, hey, hey, we're back. We're black, We're brown. Ambition ambition, ambition, ambition, ambition.
Speaker 2: Hey, y'all, we are a different kind of brown on
Speaker 2: brown and bishing today. Mandra unfortunately is not feeling well,
Speaker 2: but we wish her well, you know, with the new.
Speaker 1: Baby and things.
Speaker 2: But instead we have my very good, awesome, amazing friend
Speaker 2: and I'll go for his buyer leader, Jason Vita and welcome.
Speaker 3: Jason, Tiffany. Thank you so much. I'm excited to be here.
Speaker 2: So Jason is also a Jersey in like myself and Jason.
Speaker 2: How have we been friends?
Speaker 3: Close to ten years?
Speaker 1: Yeah? Ten years?
Speaker 3: Ten years?
Speaker 1: Yes, right, so we've been in this game for years.
Speaker 1: It's made me. I don't even know this is the
Speaker 1: hip hop song. But anyway, but.
Speaker 2: Jason and I have been friends for a long time.
Speaker 2: I met him because he too, is a financial educator.
Speaker 2: Jason honestly is one of the inspirations for my recent
Speaker 2: slow down. And you'll hear why, like how awesome he is.
Speaker 2: But I don't want to just be like Jason's my friend.
Speaker 2: He's more than that, He's none. Jason is a wellness
Speaker 2: advocate and best selling New York Times reviewed author of
Speaker 2: two books right. He is the founder of Frugal phrga
Speaker 2: L and is an award winning creator of the Road
Speaker 2: to Financial Wellness product project. Jason is also a certified Diversity,
Speaker 2: Equity and Inclusion Expert. He holds the Psychology of Financial
Speaker 2: Planning certification and is also a certified yoga instructor and
Speaker 2: breathwork specialist.
Speaker 1: We gonna get him to do a breath exercise with us, y'all.
Speaker 2: Jason focuses on a holistic approach where money isn't the goal,
Speaker 2: money is the tool to help achieve the goals. He's
Speaker 2: also been featured on the ted Nex Stage, y'all, co
Speaker 2: Finance Form, Business Insider, and we already say New York
Speaker 2: Times to name a few. All in all, Jason is
Speaker 2: incredible and he has a new book called Happy Money,
Speaker 2: Happy Life, which is like literally Jason in a book.
Speaker 2: You know. So one of the things Jason that I
Speaker 2: admire about you, that I admired and still admire about you,
Speaker 2: is that a long time ago, so Jason used to
Speaker 2: be on the grind like me. You know, we were
Speaker 2: all working really hard. This is like, you know, like
Speaker 2: ten eight years ago. Personal finance in the way that
Speaker 2: it is now was just coming to.
Speaker 1: Be a thing. You know.
Speaker 2: It was like people like me and Jason and Sandy
Speaker 2: and also other people, we were kind of like, you know,
Speaker 2: starting this kind of personal finance journey and brand and
Speaker 2: bringing y'all in. But while most of us kept grinding
Speaker 2: until we have we were nothing but little nubs. I
Speaker 2: noticed about halfway through that Jason didn't seem to be
Speaker 2: grinding yet he was still making you know, good money.
Speaker 1: You know that.
Speaker 2: I saw that he was posting pictures of his walks.
Speaker 2: I remember when Jason, you became a certified yoga instructor,
Speaker 2: you would be posting your yoga like you know, you
Speaker 2: would like during pandemic. You were doing yoga so people
Speaker 2: can do it along with you. I just remember being like,
Speaker 2: what is going on with Jason, because I know you
Speaker 2: still have frugal I know you're still a financial educator,
Speaker 2: but then there's this other part of you, the zen chill,
Speaker 2: like I'm not doing all that part of you.
Speaker 1: Like what happened?
Speaker 3: It's fascinating, right because I think when I disappeared out
Speaker 3: of the personal finance space and I was honing into
Speaker 3: the wellness space a bit more so, everyone was wondering
Speaker 3: what happened to my business or did I just go
Speaker 3: totally broke? And I was like, no, I need to
Speaker 3: focus on my physical, mental, and spiritual health. And I
Speaker 3: built a business that was running like with itself, so
Speaker 3: I just didn't need to participate as much as I
Speaker 3: needed to. And what really happened was I think you
Speaker 3: put it in there like we're in the grind, we're
Speaker 3: in the hustle, and I am a big believer that
Speaker 3: gears that grind for too long get worn out and
Speaker 3: then thrown out.
Speaker 1: Oh say that again. I put the people on to bed, Jason,
Speaker 1: say it.
Speaker 3: Again, Gears that grind for too long get worn out
Speaker 3: and then thrown out. I certainly didn't want to be
Speaker 3: thrown out. And so I know this is something that
Speaker 3: I believe in. Like the work that we do, this
Speaker 3: is purposeful work for me, but it's also grueling. I mean,
Speaker 3: there's a lot of demands, so there's a lot of
Speaker 3: things that we have to do to get the things going.
Speaker 3: And so especially when we are driven with our own
Speaker 3: personal ambition and we're driven with passion and purpose, we
Speaker 3: can get worn out doing those things. And I felt
Speaker 3: myself getting worn out and when we get worn out,
Speaker 3: we start making all these decisions, ill decisions, and then
Speaker 3: all of a sudden, it's just like it's a compounding
Speaker 3: effect that it's going to affect our mental health, our
Speaker 3: emotion well being, and then I'm going to start feeling
Speaker 3: tired and lethargic. And so that's exactly what happened. I mean,
Speaker 3: I became a bestseller, became the sought after speaker, going
Speaker 3: all around the country, and it was great, but all
Speaker 3: of a sudden, I just started feeling like I was
Speaker 3: being pulled away from the work I wanted to do
Speaker 3: to just appear. And the one thing that really hit
Speaker 3: home was when someone said to me, I was chasing
Speaker 3: influence over affluence and influences this, Oh, you got to
Speaker 3: be like on stage every single time, I have to
Speaker 3: be on social media every single time, versus like really
Speaker 3: working on affluence, and affluence isn't just the financial wealth.
Speaker 3: It's about how my feeling like in other parts of
Speaker 3: my life. And so I know this that there were
Speaker 3: areas of my life I needed to work on. And yeah,
Speaker 3: like I think, just like you, we're like we're grinding
Speaker 3: away and then other things in our lives start happening,
Speaker 3: and so I needed to listen and take a step back.
Speaker 1: And that's exactly what happened.
Speaker 3: And so when all this stuff's happened, I took a
Speaker 3: step back and go, I need to reassess, readjust and
Speaker 3: revaluate where I'm walking.
Speaker 1: I love that.
Speaker 2: And you really, you started to make those changes long
Speaker 2: before it became like now people are like, I don't
Speaker 2: want to overwork, But you made them when it was
Speaker 2: really scary to make those changes because no one was
Speaker 2: doing that.
Speaker 1: Back then.
Speaker 2: It was like, uh, the money is getting good, what
Speaker 2: do you do with Jason sitting down a little bit?
Speaker 2: So one of the things, you know, one of the
Speaker 2: reasons why I wanted Jason to come on is because
Speaker 2: in his book, his new book, Happy Money, Happy Life,
Speaker 2: which is available at Happy Money, Happy Life book dot com.
Speaker 1: Don't you like that?
Speaker 2: I told Jason, like, go get that domain, Happy Money,
Speaker 2: Happy lifebook dot com.
Speaker 1: Okay, it's the name of his book.
Speaker 2: So one of the things that really blew me away
Speaker 2: about your book is this.
Speaker 1: It is a multiple multiple what is it? Multi dimensional approach? Right?
Speaker 2: And I had never really heard of that before. I mean,
Speaker 2: you know, like in passing. But I didn't realize that
Speaker 2: there were these eight dimensions that you know, really help
Speaker 2: really compose what full wellness and holistic wellness? Can you
Speaker 2: like tell us what these dimensional, multi dimensional approaches are
Speaker 2: and how does money play a role in this?
Speaker 1: In that and in your book.
Speaker 3: Yeah, So it's interesting, right because I thought that came
Speaker 3: up with this brilliant idea that there are eight dimensions
Speaker 3: of wellness. And so I remember in twenty sixteen going, Okay,
Speaker 3: everything is connected. So it's not just financial, it's not
Speaker 3: just professional, there's mental and emotional. Everything's connected. And then
Speaker 3: eventually I started doing the research and finding all these studies.
Speaker 3: For decades, people have talked about the multidimensionality of human beings,
Speaker 3: and so for me, I chose the eight wellness dimensions
Speaker 3: because I think that encompasses who we are, and they
Speaker 3: are mental, emotional, physical, spiritual, social, environmental, occupational, and financial.
Speaker 3: Those are the eight dimensions that make you you. We
Speaker 3: are multi faceted, multi dimensional, multi layered individuals. And the
Speaker 3: reason why when things seem to be working out in
Speaker 3: one area of our life and we don't feel happy
Speaker 3: or we don't feel well, chances are there is a
Speaker 3: dimension that needs your attention. And so for me in
Speaker 3: this book, what I do is I talk about these
Speaker 3: dimensions through the lens of money. I show how money
Speaker 3: weaves itself through these dimensions and how it impacts us
Speaker 3: positively or negatively. And most of the time too, it
Speaker 3: could be our own decision making when it comes to money,
Speaker 3: and also the external factors that we have no control
Speaker 3: over the economy, the job market, and other decisions around us.
Speaker 3: And so what I want people to understand when we
Speaker 3: are focused so much, and this is what happened to me.
Speaker 3: I was so focused for period of my life on
Speaker 3: professional success, that is occupational health, which I call happy work.
Speaker 3: What we do, we take our identity and we base
Speaker 3: it solely on salary and the title we hold at
Speaker 3: this job, and so all these achievements. Well, if we
Speaker 3: solely focus on occupational health and we excel to the
Speaker 3: detriment of our mental and physical health, well guess what happens.
Speaker 3: It's going to affect our finances, It's going to affect
Speaker 3: every other aspects of our well being. And so for
Speaker 3: this instance, when I was at a point when I
Speaker 3: was like grinding away, climbing up the corporate ladder, and
Speaker 3: it became VP of Marketing and Business Development for this
Speaker 3: financial institution. While I was suffering mentally, I was emotionally drained,
Speaker 3: and that psychological distress was manifesting itself physically. So I
Speaker 3: was getting sick. I developed vertigo, I had like pink
Speaker 3: eye or red eyes for two weeks. My eyes were
Speaker 3: bleeding for two weeks, and I couldn't get out of bed.
Speaker 3: And then when I couldn't get out of bed, I
Speaker 3: felt useless and it started affecting my social well being
Speaker 3: because I didn't want to hang out with friends or family.
Speaker 3: And then I felt this void in my life because
Speaker 3: something that I was passionate about at that time, climbing
Speaker 3: up the career ladder, was affected me spiritually. And so
Speaker 3: for me, I want people to understand, like these dimensions
Speaker 3: are interconnected, they're overlapping, and so once you understand these
Speaker 3: eight dimensions and how they there's there intersectionality of them,
Speaker 3: it is a powerful life changing way of looking at yourself.
Speaker 2: Honestly, Jayson, I was just telling her friend of mine,
Speaker 2: like literally, I was like super excited. I was telling
Speaker 2: her a friend of mine, about your book, and I
Speaker 2: was telling him that like, yo, I you know you
Speaker 2: kind of you understand that obviously there are components to
Speaker 2: your life, but I could never understand why to your point,
Speaker 2: when I was making the most amount of money I've
Speaker 2: ever made, I was so miserable.
Speaker 1: My blood pressure had spiked. It was like, and now
Speaker 1: I have to honestly.
Speaker 2: Say, you know that despite all that's happened, you know,
Speaker 2: I am in a space of grief, grace and gratitude,
Speaker 2: you know, and I'm actually happy. And I'm like how
Speaker 2: And I was literally I pulled up the eight dimensions
Speaker 2: and I said, oh, I'm happy because every aspect of
Speaker 2: these dimensions I am present in. You know, because before
Speaker 2: I wasn't hanging out that it was just BUDGETIESA. There
Speaker 2: was no Tiffany, so the social out the window. I
Speaker 2: had gained thirty pounds, my blood pressure had spiked, so
Speaker 2: physical was not being looked after financial. I mean, I
Speaker 2: was good as far as money, but that was about it.
Speaker 2: Every other part.
Speaker 1: Of my life was out of alignment.
Speaker 2: And so I thought like, well, I thought, if I
Speaker 2: work really hard and I'm making really good money and
Speaker 2: I'm helping people, that it should be enough. It wasn't
Speaker 2: because I was not looking at myself holistically and so
Speaker 2: that's why I love because you know, one of the things,
Speaker 2: that's one of the things I love about you as
Speaker 2: a person, but also the fact that you wrote this
Speaker 2: book to talk about that. You know, we talk about money,
Speaker 2: but I always say it's really not money. You know
Speaker 2: that I want people to use money to live. Well, now,
Speaker 2: how do you do that? And I feel like with
Speaker 2: Happy Money, Happy Life, you know, that's what you that's
Speaker 2: what you talk about, like how do you use your
Speaker 2: money as a tool.
Speaker 1: You know, not the goal itself. So thank you for that.
Speaker 2: So we're actually going to jump to a quick break
Speaker 2: because you know, we all we get to chalkin, right.
Speaker 2: So we've got Jason vitug A frugal but this new book,
Speaker 2: Happy Money, Happy Life will be right back black and Brown.
Speaker 2: And we're back in Black and Brown, super excited. We
Speaker 2: have Jason in the studio and this too with us
Speaker 2: talking about multidimensionality or talking about happy Money, Happy Life,
Speaker 2: his new book. So, Jason, while we're back, you did
Speaker 2: something with my dream catches the other day that was amazing.
Speaker 1: So I'm going to put you on the spot.
Speaker 2: You did just a really quick breathing activity and I'd
Speaker 2: like for you to just walk us through this like
Speaker 2: two or three minute breathing activity, even if you're driving,
Speaker 2: you have the kids or whatever. If you can't do
Speaker 2: it now, that's okay. Look at the time stamp of
Speaker 2: this activity on the video or the audio that you're
Speaker 2: watching so you can come back to it. And I
Speaker 2: want Jason to lead us through because when I tell you,
Speaker 2: it chilled me, y'all know I'm hyper.
Speaker 1: It chilled me all the way out. So Jason, the
Speaker 1: floor is yours. Thank you so much.
Speaker 3: So I want to preface this because I think it's
Speaker 3: important for people to understand why I am a breathwork
Speaker 3: specialist and why this is part of my daily routine,
Speaker 3: because there are just so many things happening in this world.
Speaker 3: There's so many things that cause us stress in our lives,
Speaker 3: and so it's not just financial. And so for me,
Speaker 3: discovering breath work was a life changing kind of for
Speaker 3: and what I've been doing is incorporating it in these
Speaker 3: talks becuse it it's such a powerful way for us
Speaker 3: to address our nervous system, because our nervous system is
Speaker 3: like it's all hyped up. And so what I do
Speaker 3: want to say is that when you get an opportunity
Speaker 3: go back to this timestamp. And so you could do
Speaker 3: this in a safe space, because when we're working with breath,
Speaker 3: it will change how you feel in your body. And
Speaker 3: so if you're in a safe space right now, I
Speaker 3: want you to gently kind of lift up your body,
Speaker 3: feel that energy flowing from from your core all the
Speaker 3: way up to your head, nice and tall back, Relax
Speaker 3: your shoulders, allow your chin to drop gently towards your chest.
Speaker 3: You can close your eyes if you want to, if
Speaker 3: you feel comfortable, and just be present in this moment.
Speaker 3: And I want you to start noticing where your breath
Speaker 3: and your body through the nose, perhaps through your mouth,
Speaker 3: and feeling that sensation of air through your nostrils through
Speaker 3: your body and filling up your lungs and just being
Speaker 3: present with that force. Now as you get in touch
Speaker 3: and feel this pull of gravity in any parts of
Speaker 3: your body that's touching the floor, we're gonna work with
Speaker 3: manipulating your breath. We're gonna go and take a nice
Speaker 3: deep in hell through your nose, filling your lungs up
Speaker 3: with air and releasing through your mouth with a sigh.
Speaker 3: Let's do that in hell through your nose, filling your
Speaker 3: lungs up with air and releasing through your mouth with
Speaker 3: a sigh, and allow yourself to do this a few
Speaker 3: more times. And the power of this is that we
Speaker 3: hold so much tension around our jawline, around our mouth,
Speaker 3: so you're probably noticing there's that tension there. And by
Speaker 3: simply breathing in through our nose and intentionally and mindfully
Speaker 3: exhaling through our mouth with that sigh, we're allowing our
Speaker 3: body to remain still, to be present, to relax. And
Speaker 3: let's take one more deep inhale through the nose, and
Speaker 3: I want you to hold it at the top for
Speaker 3: three seconds one, two, three, and then release two allow
Speaker 3: yourself And now as you get in and are in
Speaker 3: your body, I want you to start gently wiggling your fingers,
Speaker 3: wingling your toes, allow yourself to come back into the room,
Speaker 3: and welcome back into this three D physical world.
Speaker 2: That was so amazing, Jason, Honestly, it just it just
Speaker 2: this is one of the things that like I appreciate
Speaker 2: most about you, that this is what you bring to
Speaker 2: the financial space in a special way that I don't
Speaker 2: know that there's anybody you know, no one on that
Speaker 2: I know no one that I followed, no one that
Speaker 2: I've read up about that approaches personal finance from this space.
Speaker 2: You know, this fully grounded, this fully like you know,
Speaker 2: just breath work and personal finance. It just doesn't seem
Speaker 2: like it matches, but it does. Imagine doing a breathwork
Speaker 2: exercise before you sit down and budget with your partner,
Speaker 2: you know, Imagine doing yoga moves every Saturday, and you know,
Speaker 2: before you do your budget for the week. You know, Like,
Speaker 2: I just love that, Like this is the space, This
Speaker 2: is the unique beauty that you bring to this, this
Speaker 2: personal finance space. And I just you know, I hope
Speaker 2: you all, you know you're listening, if you got a
Speaker 2: chance to do a little bit that's short, a little
Speaker 2: bit of breath work that you know you're feeling as
Speaker 2: calm as I am, that you can tell my voices
Speaker 2: totally changed. I'm like, yeah, I'm so chilly, you know,
Speaker 2: but like, but I know it hasn't always been easy,
Speaker 2: you know for you, Jason, and I think it'd be
Speaker 2: good for people to hear. I know you shared a
Speaker 2: little bit of like how you got here, you know,
Speaker 2: but you know, just maybe diving deeper into how you
Speaker 2: got here and why did you write this book so
Speaker 2: we can go on the journey with you.
Speaker 3: Yeah, well, thank you for that. I want people to
Speaker 3: understand that we all have personal journeys, and our journey
Speaker 3: isn't this straight linear upward trajectory, and it isn't just
Speaker 3: a downward trend either. And for me, I've had ups
Speaker 3: and downs, twists and turns. I thought I had it
Speaker 3: all figured out. Well, I thought I had it all
Speaker 3: figured out when I quit my corporate job and went
Speaker 3: backpacking around the world discovering my purpose. And discovering my
Speaker 3: purpose wasn't the end to my story. When I started
Speaker 3: frugal and I started on this mission becoming me financial
Speaker 3: educator and incorporating health and wealth, that wasn't really the
Speaker 3: case because I got pulled into the entrepreneurial hustle. So
Speaker 3: when I was hustling in corporate America and then I
Speaker 3: was hustling in the entrepreneurial world, I was experiencing the
Speaker 3: same burnout. I was experiencing the same issues. The physical
Speaker 3: manifestations of all the mental gymnastics that I was doing
Speaker 3: was causing me a great deal of distress and now
Speaker 3: affecting me professionally in the work that I absolutely loved
Speaker 3: doing and then impacting my finances. And so there was
Speaker 3: a point in my life, tiffany where, just like you,
Speaker 3: I reached this level of financial success and I'm like,
Speaker 3: I'm at the top of my game. I'm getting paid
Speaker 3: tens of thousands of dollars to speak for one hour,
Speaker 3: and coming from a city like Elizabeth, New Jersey, the
Speaker 3: fourth largest city, growing up where we lived in seventeen
Speaker 3: different houses, where we didn't talk about money. I didn't
Speaker 3: have luxury goods, we didn't go on fancy vacations, and
Speaker 3: like growing up with just the essentials and not knowing
Speaker 3: about the how the other half lives did impact me.
Speaker 3: And so when I achieved these financial success and I
Speaker 3: thought that's how, that's what's going to make me happy.
Speaker 3: And when I achieve that level of professional and financial success,
Speaker 3: there were still all these other things I needed to
Speaker 3: work on. And so for me, just getting the becoming
Speaker 3: mentally drained, emotionally exhausted, physically ill just affected my professional
Speaker 3: and financial success. So I started making bad financial decisions
Speaker 3: and I was actually really ashamed of that. And that
Speaker 3: has a lot to do with like, Okay, well you
Speaker 3: are a money expert. How could you make financial mistakes
Speaker 3: as a money expert? And I was making those mistakes
Speaker 3: at the height of my quote unquote financial influence. And
Speaker 3: for me, it's realized saying that this is a journey
Speaker 3: of ups and downs and twists and turns, and I
Speaker 3: have the opportunity, as long as there's air in my lungs,
Speaker 3: as long as I am motivated to get up and
Speaker 3: do the work, that I can have a different path.
Speaker 3: I can take a different path, I can choose, I
Speaker 3: make different choices, And so for me, I've no longer
Speaker 3: have the shame, the guilt, the embarrassment of my financial mistakes.
Speaker 3: And I certainly know that as I continue on this journey,
Speaker 3: I'll probably make a few more financial mistakes. But the
Speaker 3: message I want people to understand is that money is
Speaker 3: just one aspect of who we are, and if we
Speaker 3: can remove the small little stresses of our financial life,
Speaker 3: we can then focus on other aspects of our well being.
Speaker 1: And so for that.
Speaker 3: Little short thing is I just want people to know
Speaker 3: I still don't have it all figured out, but getting
Speaker 3: my money right, understanding where work takes presidents in my
Speaker 3: well being and everything else, like I'm working towards that
Speaker 3: holistic wellness that I want everyone else to be on
Speaker 3: in this journey.
Speaker 2: If you follow him Jason Vita j A. S O
Speaker 2: n v I Tug fanatic, Okay, you'll see like you'll
Speaker 2: get to You're not just gonna get money stuff, You're
Speaker 2: gonna get him. I just saw you were walking your
Speaker 2: dog in the park for your daily walk.
Speaker 1: I love that.
Speaker 2: One of the things I like. So there's like chapter
Speaker 2: I think it's like chapter five to ten. Can you
Speaker 2: read some of the chapter titles? I love that, Like
Speaker 2: how you weave did It's like happy soul happy?
Speaker 1: What is it?
Speaker 2: Yeah?
Speaker 3: Yeah, So I want people to understand, like there is
Speaker 3: these wellness dimensions and I call them happy dimensions. How
Speaker 3: we can incorporate the happy dimensions into our life. So
Speaker 3: mental health is happy mind, Emotional health is happy heart,
Speaker 3: physical health is happy body. And then you have your
Speaker 3: spiritual that's happy spirit. Your social wellbeing, right, the people
Speaker 3: that's around you, that's happy social, Occupational, that's your work,
Speaker 3: it's happy work. Environmental, the physical places you inhabit and
Speaker 3: live that does effect that does affect your well being,
Speaker 3: that's happy space. And your financial health that's happy money
Speaker 3: and so love that. Yeah, I just think it's just
Speaker 3: a way, like think about your wellness as these in
Speaker 3: these happy dimensions, and we need to figure out how
Speaker 3: we can again utilize money as a tool to help
Speaker 3: us in these things. And when you mentioned like we
Speaker 3: talk about money is a tool, and I like people
Speaker 3: to think of money as a tool to create fill
Speaker 3: in the blank. So what do you want money to
Speaker 3: create in your life? Because a lot of these financial gurus,
Speaker 3: what do they talk about? They talk about specific financial milestones.
Speaker 3: They talk about how much you need on your four
Speaker 3: one K, your investments, your savings accounts. Those things are
Speaker 3: important because it's going to help you improve your financial health,
Speaker 3: your happy money. Now you have to understand, once you
Speaker 3: get to that point, or you're working towards achieving those
Speaker 3: investments numbers or those financial numbers, don't forget your happy mind,
Speaker 3: your happy heart, your happy body, your happy spirit. You
Speaker 3: could work towards happy money while you're working towards lifting
Speaker 3: or strengthening those other dimensions.
Speaker 1: I love that, honestly. Yeah, we have Jason V.
Speaker 2: Tug here, you know, Happy Money, Happy Life available at
Speaker 2: Happy Money, happylifebook dot com.
Speaker 1: Get you a copy, Okay, any last words, Jason.
Speaker 2: You know, like if someone wanted to start, if someone's like,
Speaker 2: I don't want to just look at my money, what's
Speaker 2: something that I can besides picking up your book? You
Speaker 2: know what's something that I can do today to start
Speaker 2: to incorporate a more holistic approach to my money.
Speaker 3: Well aside from the financial tactics that we talk about
Speaker 3: and you do so well with Get Good with Money.
Speaker 3: Get that copy of the book, because that is a
Speaker 3: holistic way to get your financial wholeness going. The first
Speaker 3: step I would recommend is just paying attention to your breath.
Speaker 3: We did breath work. So the one key thing that
Speaker 3: when I meet someone, I know how they are doing
Speaker 3: based on how they're breathing. They have short, quick breaths
Speaker 3: coming out of their mouth. I know that they're going
Speaker 3: through something, and so the way I interact with them
Speaker 3: will be a bit different. I will give them space
Speaker 3: and grace that they need. And if I see someone
Speaker 3: who has calm and collected yes, then I know that
Speaker 3: we could have a different type of conversation. So they
Speaker 3: want you to do is become aware of how you're breathing.
Speaker 3: Are you breathing through your nose or are you're breathing
Speaker 3: through your mouth, is your jaw clenched? Do you feel
Speaker 3: like you're not getting enough air and you're gasping? And
Speaker 3: the reason why I want you to pay attention to
Speaker 3: that is because your physical body is sharing something about
Speaker 3: your mental and emotional state through breathing. And if you
Speaker 3: are unable to fully breathe be in your body, it
Speaker 3: is really hard to budget. It is really hard to
Speaker 3: have that conversation with your partner, it's really hard to
Speaker 3: get on the phone and and try to negotiate your
Speaker 3: service contracts and things like that.
Speaker 1: So that is the first step.
Speaker 3: And I think that is such an eye opening thing
Speaker 3: when you go and you may not notice it for yourself,
Speaker 3: but the next time you speak with someone and you
Speaker 3: see that they're holding their breath, that they're breathing through
Speaker 3: their mouths, it's say, that's kind of one of the
Speaker 3: key things. And so I'm known now to go it's like, hey,
Speaker 3: how are you doing? And then it's and then they'll
Speaker 3: open up. And that just has to do with paying
Speaker 3: attention to the breath. And I think I want everyone
Speaker 3: to be at home just just be cognizance. I'm planting
Speaker 3: this little seed in your mind, be cognizant of how
Speaker 3: you're breathing, and learn more about these breath work techniques.
Speaker 3: And I actually have thirty different We did one, we
Speaker 3: did two now with the dream Catchers and Hear Brand Ambition,
Speaker 3: but there are more than thirty.
Speaker 1: But there are thirty.
Speaker 3: Breath work techniques that can help you get energized and
Speaker 3: also that calm down and help you sleep. And so
Speaker 3: breath is such a powerful force when it comes to
Speaker 3: healing our mental emotional state as well as healing our
Speaker 3: money traumas.
Speaker 1: Jason, honestly, it's just so amazing, isn't he amazing? Guys?
Speaker 2: Honestly, this is Can I make a suggestion for you, Jason,
Speaker 2: so you know when people go to Happy Money, Happy Life,
Speaker 2: you know, I know right now it's pointing to like
Speaker 2: Amazon or whatever, but I know you have a book page.
Speaker 2: Can I suggest that you post maybe three to four
Speaker 2: of those breath work activities on the book page, like
Speaker 2: you know, via like a YouTube link, just so when
Speaker 2: people come they know what tom Ity is.
Speaker 1: And I just love that.
Speaker 2: I think paying attention to your breath that just speaks
Speaker 2: to who Jason is and how he shows up, Like
Speaker 2: you know, that it's not this direct financial thing, it's
Speaker 2: this indirect thing that will enable you to be more
Speaker 2: successful with your money and beyond. So just Jason, thank
Speaker 2: you so so so so much. Where can the people
Speaker 2: find you? Where can they get your book?
Speaker 1: Let us know? Well?
Speaker 2: Thank you so much.
Speaker 3: Well you inspired me, Tiffany. I just I do want
Speaker 3: to say that you inspired me because a lot of
Speaker 3: previous conversations in terms of how do I get more
Speaker 3: people to understand the book really helped me out. I
Speaker 3: also spoke with my brother John, who is a doctoral
Speaker 3: candidate for a psychology degree, and he said, and you said,
Speaker 3: I need to be more present in terms of like,
Speaker 3: let me just show how this is done. And so
Speaker 3: I decided to do wellness Wednesdays. I'm going to do
Speaker 3: a ten to fifteen minute show live streaming on all
Speaker 3: the platforms because you've you've educated me on how to
Speaker 3: do that, and I want people to understand that we
Speaker 3: can talk about stress, job related or financial stress or
Speaker 3: whatever stress, but then using these tactical breath work techniques
Speaker 3: and also chair yoga. People don't know I do chaer yoga,
Speaker 3: so you could do yoga while you're sitting at your desk,
Speaker 3: so you get your body moving and it changes and
Speaker 3: shifts your mind. So with that said, I do encourage
Speaker 3: you to follow me on social medium active on Instagram
Speaker 3: if you love travel and in yoga poses as I
Speaker 3: as I tell you when we do asanas, you breathe
Speaker 3: in wealth, breathe out debt.
Speaker 1: Yeah, and say it with me.
Speaker 3: Everyone breathe in well, breathe out debt.
Speaker 1: And so it's just it's.
Speaker 3: Just how incorporate things. So follow me on Instagram and Twitter,
Speaker 3: and connect with me on LinkedIn, and you could certainly
Speaker 3: find more info about the book at Happy Money, Happy
Speaker 3: lifebook dot com.
Speaker 2: Yes, and so it's Jason Vitel and all those places, right, Jason,
Speaker 2: Yes v t ug. Thank you, thank you, thank you,
Speaker 2: thank you.
Speaker 1: Jason.
Speaker 2: You're always such a gift. It's a privilege and a
Speaker 2: pleasure to have you on, but even more so to
Speaker 2: call you friend.
Speaker 3: Thank you.
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