1 00:00:06,400 --> 00:00:16,360 Speaker 1: Hey, hey, hey, we're back. We're black, We're brown. Ambition ambition, ambition, ambition, ambition. 2 00:00:17,840 --> 00:00:19,599 Speaker 2: Hey, y'all, we are a different kind of brown on 3 00:00:19,680 --> 00:00:25,040 Speaker 2: brown and bishing today. Mandra unfortunately is not feeling well, 4 00:00:25,079 --> 00:00:26,520 Speaker 2: but we wish her well, you know, with the new. 5 00:00:26,400 --> 00:00:27,440 Speaker 1: Baby and things. 6 00:00:27,760 --> 00:00:32,280 Speaker 2: But instead we have my very good, awesome, amazing friend 7 00:00:32,360 --> 00:00:36,080 Speaker 2: and I'll go for his buyer leader, Jason Vita and welcome. 8 00:00:35,840 --> 00:00:39,280 Speaker 3: Jason, Tiffany. Thank you so much. I'm excited to be here. 9 00:00:39,760 --> 00:00:45,080 Speaker 2: So Jason is also a Jersey in like myself and Jason. 10 00:00:45,120 --> 00:00:46,120 Speaker 2: How have we been friends? 11 00:00:47,000 --> 00:00:48,040 Speaker 3: Close to ten years? 12 00:00:48,200 --> 00:00:49,280 Speaker 1: Yeah? Ten years? 13 00:00:49,280 --> 00:00:49,840 Speaker 3: Ten years? 14 00:00:50,080 --> 00:00:53,040 Speaker 1: Yes, right, so we've been in this game for years. 15 00:00:53,280 --> 00:00:55,480 Speaker 1: It's made me. I don't even know this is the 16 00:00:55,560 --> 00:00:57,240 Speaker 1: hip hop song. But anyway, but. 17 00:00:57,320 --> 00:00:58,880 Speaker 2: Jason and I have been friends for a long time. 18 00:00:59,240 --> 00:01:02,200 Speaker 2: I met him because he too, is a financial educator. 19 00:01:02,960 --> 00:01:06,800 Speaker 2: Jason honestly is one of the inspirations for my recent 20 00:01:07,000 --> 00:01:09,920 Speaker 2: slow down. And you'll hear why, like how awesome he is. 21 00:01:10,560 --> 00:01:12,760 Speaker 2: But I don't want to just be like Jason's my friend. 22 00:01:12,800 --> 00:01:15,480 Speaker 2: He's more than that, He's none. Jason is a wellness 23 00:01:15,520 --> 00:01:19,160 Speaker 2: advocate and best selling New York Times reviewed author of 24 00:01:19,240 --> 00:01:23,920 Speaker 2: two books right. He is the founder of Frugal phrga 25 00:01:24,280 --> 00:01:27,319 Speaker 2: L and is an award winning creator of the Road 26 00:01:27,360 --> 00:01:32,160 Speaker 2: to Financial Wellness product project. Jason is also a certified Diversity, 27 00:01:32,200 --> 00:01:36,080 Speaker 2: Equity and Inclusion Expert. He holds the Psychology of Financial 28 00:01:36,120 --> 00:01:40,000 Speaker 2: Planning certification and is also a certified yoga instructor and 29 00:01:40,120 --> 00:01:41,039 Speaker 2: breathwork specialist. 30 00:01:41,040 --> 00:01:43,000 Speaker 1: We gonna get him to do a breath exercise with us, y'all. 31 00:01:43,680 --> 00:01:48,560 Speaker 2: Jason focuses on a holistic approach where money isn't the goal, 32 00:01:48,640 --> 00:01:51,360 Speaker 2: money is the tool to help achieve the goals. He's 33 00:01:51,400 --> 00:01:53,440 Speaker 2: also been featured on the ted Nex Stage, y'all, co 34 00:01:53,600 --> 00:01:56,560 Speaker 2: Finance Form, Business Insider, and we already say New York 35 00:01:56,560 --> 00:01:59,520 Speaker 2: Times to name a few. All in all, Jason is 36 00:02:00,120 --> 00:02:04,040 Speaker 2: incredible and he has a new book called Happy Money, 37 00:02:04,680 --> 00:02:08,080 Speaker 2: Happy Life, which is like literally Jason in a book. 38 00:02:09,320 --> 00:02:11,720 Speaker 2: You know. So one of the things Jason that I 39 00:02:11,760 --> 00:02:14,880 Speaker 2: admire about you, that I admired and still admire about you, 40 00:02:15,040 --> 00:02:17,720 Speaker 2: is that a long time ago, so Jason used to 41 00:02:17,720 --> 00:02:19,120 Speaker 2: be on the grind like me. You know, we were 42 00:02:19,160 --> 00:02:21,560 Speaker 2: all working really hard. This is like, you know, like 43 00:02:21,919 --> 00:02:24,560 Speaker 2: ten eight years ago. Personal finance in the way that 44 00:02:24,600 --> 00:02:26,720 Speaker 2: it is now was just coming to. 45 00:02:26,720 --> 00:02:28,040 Speaker 1: Be a thing. You know. 46 00:02:28,240 --> 00:02:30,720 Speaker 2: It was like people like me and Jason and Sandy 47 00:02:30,720 --> 00:02:33,200 Speaker 2: and also other people, we were kind of like, you know, 48 00:02:33,280 --> 00:02:36,480 Speaker 2: starting this kind of personal finance journey and brand and 49 00:02:36,520 --> 00:02:40,639 Speaker 2: bringing y'all in. But while most of us kept grinding 50 00:02:40,760 --> 00:02:43,200 Speaker 2: until we have we were nothing but little nubs. I 51 00:02:43,440 --> 00:02:46,960 Speaker 2: noticed about halfway through that Jason didn't seem to be 52 00:02:46,960 --> 00:02:49,840 Speaker 2: grinding yet he was still making you know, good money. 53 00:02:49,919 --> 00:02:50,360 Speaker 1: You know that. 54 00:02:50,880 --> 00:02:53,240 Speaker 2: I saw that he was posting pictures of his walks. 55 00:02:53,600 --> 00:02:56,800 Speaker 2: I remember when Jason, you became a certified yoga instructor, 56 00:02:56,840 --> 00:02:58,959 Speaker 2: you would be posting your yoga like you know, you 57 00:02:58,960 --> 00:03:01,079 Speaker 2: would like during pandemic. You were doing yoga so people 58 00:03:01,120 --> 00:03:03,920 Speaker 2: can do it along with you. I just remember being like, 59 00:03:04,000 --> 00:03:05,640 Speaker 2: what is going on with Jason, because I know you 60 00:03:05,680 --> 00:03:08,359 Speaker 2: still have frugal I know you're still a financial educator, 61 00:03:08,560 --> 00:03:11,919 Speaker 2: but then there's this other part of you, the zen chill, 62 00:03:12,840 --> 00:03:14,440 Speaker 2: like I'm not doing all that part of you. 63 00:03:14,639 --> 00:03:15,400 Speaker 1: Like what happened? 64 00:03:16,440 --> 00:03:20,000 Speaker 3: It's fascinating, right because I think when I disappeared out 65 00:03:20,000 --> 00:03:23,079 Speaker 3: of the personal finance space and I was honing into 66 00:03:23,200 --> 00:03:26,240 Speaker 3: the wellness space a bit more so, everyone was wondering 67 00:03:26,280 --> 00:03:28,720 Speaker 3: what happened to my business or did I just go 68 00:03:28,919 --> 00:03:30,679 Speaker 3: totally broke? And I was like, no, I need to 69 00:03:30,720 --> 00:03:35,200 Speaker 3: focus on my physical, mental, and spiritual health. And I 70 00:03:35,280 --> 00:03:39,320 Speaker 3: built a business that was running like with itself, so 71 00:03:39,360 --> 00:03:41,440 Speaker 3: I just didn't need to participate as much as I 72 00:03:42,080 --> 00:03:46,400 Speaker 3: needed to. And what really happened was I think you 73 00:03:46,480 --> 00:03:48,800 Speaker 3: put it in there like we're in the grind, we're 74 00:03:48,800 --> 00:03:51,800 Speaker 3: in the hustle, and I am a big believer that 75 00:03:51,920 --> 00:03:54,920 Speaker 3: gears that grind for too long get worn out and 76 00:03:54,960 --> 00:03:55,800 Speaker 3: then thrown out. 77 00:03:56,200 --> 00:03:58,040 Speaker 1: Oh say that again. I put the people on to bed, Jason, 78 00:03:58,080 --> 00:03:58,320 Speaker 1: say it. 79 00:03:58,320 --> 00:04:02,920 Speaker 3: Again, Gears that grind for too long get worn out 80 00:04:03,080 --> 00:04:05,640 Speaker 3: and then thrown out. I certainly didn't want to be 81 00:04:05,680 --> 00:04:08,160 Speaker 3: thrown out. And so I know this is something that 82 00:04:08,240 --> 00:04:10,360 Speaker 3: I believe in. Like the work that we do, this 83 00:04:10,440 --> 00:04:14,160 Speaker 3: is purposeful work for me, but it's also grueling. I mean, 84 00:04:14,200 --> 00:04:15,560 Speaker 3: there's a lot of demands, so there's a lot of 85 00:04:15,600 --> 00:04:18,159 Speaker 3: things that we have to do to get the things going. 86 00:04:18,839 --> 00:04:21,560 Speaker 3: And so especially when we are driven with our own 87 00:04:21,600 --> 00:04:25,600 Speaker 3: personal ambition and we're driven with passion and purpose, we 88 00:04:25,680 --> 00:04:29,280 Speaker 3: can get worn out doing those things. And I felt 89 00:04:29,440 --> 00:04:32,200 Speaker 3: myself getting worn out and when we get worn out, 90 00:04:32,240 --> 00:04:35,640 Speaker 3: we start making all these decisions, ill decisions, and then 91 00:04:35,680 --> 00:04:37,839 Speaker 3: all of a sudden, it's just like it's a compounding 92 00:04:37,839 --> 00:04:39,599 Speaker 3: effect that it's going to affect our mental health, our 93 00:04:39,640 --> 00:04:41,640 Speaker 3: emotion well being, and then I'm going to start feeling 94 00:04:41,720 --> 00:04:45,400 Speaker 3: tired and lethargic. And so that's exactly what happened. I mean, 95 00:04:45,480 --> 00:04:50,200 Speaker 3: I became a bestseller, became the sought after speaker, going 96 00:04:50,240 --> 00:04:53,440 Speaker 3: all around the country, and it was great, but all 97 00:04:53,480 --> 00:04:55,479 Speaker 3: of a sudden, I just started feeling like I was 98 00:04:55,480 --> 00:04:58,080 Speaker 3: being pulled away from the work I wanted to do 99 00:04:58,520 --> 00:05:02,240 Speaker 3: to just appear. And the one thing that really hit 100 00:05:02,320 --> 00:05:05,560 Speaker 3: home was when someone said to me, I was chasing 101 00:05:05,640 --> 00:05:09,520 Speaker 3: influence over affluence and influences this, Oh, you got to 102 00:05:09,560 --> 00:05:12,760 Speaker 3: be like on stage every single time, I have to 103 00:05:12,760 --> 00:05:16,440 Speaker 3: be on social media every single time, versus like really 104 00:05:16,480 --> 00:05:20,279 Speaker 3: working on affluence, and affluence isn't just the financial wealth. 105 00:05:20,560 --> 00:05:22,960 Speaker 3: It's about how my feeling like in other parts of 106 00:05:23,000 --> 00:05:25,880 Speaker 3: my life. And so I know this that there were 107 00:05:26,200 --> 00:05:29,119 Speaker 3: areas of my life I needed to work on. And yeah, 108 00:05:29,240 --> 00:05:32,120 Speaker 3: like I think, just like you, we're like we're grinding 109 00:05:32,120 --> 00:05:35,720 Speaker 3: away and then other things in our lives start happening, 110 00:05:35,880 --> 00:05:38,880 Speaker 3: and so I needed to listen and take a step back. 111 00:05:39,279 --> 00:05:40,679 Speaker 1: And that's exactly what happened. 112 00:05:40,720 --> 00:05:43,159 Speaker 3: And so when all this stuff's happened, I took a 113 00:05:43,160 --> 00:05:45,720 Speaker 3: step back and go, I need to reassess, readjust and 114 00:05:45,760 --> 00:05:47,160 Speaker 3: revaluate where I'm walking. 115 00:05:47,800 --> 00:05:48,279 Speaker 1: I love that. 116 00:05:48,360 --> 00:05:51,960 Speaker 2: And you really, you started to make those changes long 117 00:05:52,080 --> 00:05:54,000 Speaker 2: before it became like now people are like, I don't 118 00:05:54,000 --> 00:05:56,200 Speaker 2: want to overwork, But you made them when it was 119 00:05:56,240 --> 00:05:58,080 Speaker 2: really scary to make those changes because no one was 120 00:05:58,120 --> 00:05:58,520 Speaker 2: doing that. 121 00:05:58,560 --> 00:05:58,920 Speaker 1: Back then. 122 00:05:59,000 --> 00:06:01,960 Speaker 2: It was like, uh, the money is getting good, what 123 00:06:02,040 --> 00:06:03,880 Speaker 2: do you do with Jason sitting down a little bit? 124 00:06:04,040 --> 00:06:05,680 Speaker 2: So one of the things, you know, one of the 125 00:06:05,680 --> 00:06:08,600 Speaker 2: reasons why I wanted Jason to come on is because 126 00:06:08,640 --> 00:06:11,080 Speaker 2: in his book, his new book, Happy Money, Happy Life, 127 00:06:11,120 --> 00:06:15,200 Speaker 2: which is available at Happy Money, Happy Life book dot com. 128 00:06:15,200 --> 00:06:15,800 Speaker 1: Don't you like that? 129 00:06:16,400 --> 00:06:19,440 Speaker 2: I told Jason, like, go get that domain, Happy Money, 130 00:06:19,520 --> 00:06:21,480 Speaker 2: Happy lifebook dot com. 131 00:06:21,480 --> 00:06:23,159 Speaker 1: Okay, it's the name of his book. 132 00:06:23,240 --> 00:06:25,200 Speaker 2: So one of the things that really blew me away 133 00:06:25,320 --> 00:06:28,440 Speaker 2: about your book is this. 134 00:06:28,640 --> 00:06:33,000 Speaker 1: It is a multiple multiple what is it? Multi dimensional approach? Right? 135 00:06:33,480 --> 00:06:36,600 Speaker 2: And I had never really heard of that before. I mean, 136 00:06:37,040 --> 00:06:39,120 Speaker 2: you know, like in passing. But I didn't realize that 137 00:06:39,160 --> 00:06:44,279 Speaker 2: there were these eight dimensions that you know, really help 138 00:06:45,160 --> 00:06:49,120 Speaker 2: really compose what full wellness and holistic wellness? Can you 139 00:06:49,200 --> 00:06:52,520 Speaker 2: like tell us what these dimensional, multi dimensional approaches are 140 00:06:52,680 --> 00:06:55,800 Speaker 2: and how does money play a role in this? 141 00:06:55,920 --> 00:06:57,320 Speaker 1: In that and in your book. 142 00:06:57,560 --> 00:06:59,800 Speaker 3: Yeah, So it's interesting, right because I thought that came 143 00:06:59,880 --> 00:07:03,600 Speaker 3: up with this brilliant idea that there are eight dimensions 144 00:07:03,640 --> 00:07:06,760 Speaker 3: of wellness. And so I remember in twenty sixteen going, Okay, 145 00:07:06,800 --> 00:07:09,560 Speaker 3: everything is connected. So it's not just financial, it's not 146 00:07:09,600 --> 00:07:13,600 Speaker 3: just professional, there's mental and emotional. Everything's connected. And then 147 00:07:13,600 --> 00:07:16,440 Speaker 3: eventually I started doing the research and finding all these studies. 148 00:07:16,440 --> 00:07:21,320 Speaker 3: For decades, people have talked about the multidimensionality of human beings, 149 00:07:21,680 --> 00:07:24,800 Speaker 3: and so for me, I chose the eight wellness dimensions 150 00:07:24,840 --> 00:07:27,880 Speaker 3: because I think that encompasses who we are, and they 151 00:07:27,920 --> 00:07:37,320 Speaker 3: are mental, emotional, physical, spiritual, social, environmental, occupational, and financial. 152 00:07:38,000 --> 00:07:41,800 Speaker 3: Those are the eight dimensions that make you you. We 153 00:07:41,920 --> 00:07:46,440 Speaker 3: are multi faceted, multi dimensional, multi layered individuals. And the 154 00:07:46,560 --> 00:07:49,840 Speaker 3: reason why when things seem to be working out in 155 00:07:49,920 --> 00:07:53,200 Speaker 3: one area of our life and we don't feel happy 156 00:07:53,400 --> 00:07:56,360 Speaker 3: or we don't feel well, chances are there is a 157 00:07:56,480 --> 00:08:00,560 Speaker 3: dimension that needs your attention. And so for me in 158 00:08:00,600 --> 00:08:03,000 Speaker 3: this book, what I do is I talk about these 159 00:08:03,040 --> 00:08:05,640 Speaker 3: dimensions through the lens of money. I show how money 160 00:08:05,680 --> 00:08:08,920 Speaker 3: weaves itself through these dimensions and how it impacts us 161 00:08:08,960 --> 00:08:11,800 Speaker 3: positively or negatively. And most of the time too, it 162 00:08:11,800 --> 00:08:14,440 Speaker 3: could be our own decision making when it comes to money, 163 00:08:14,680 --> 00:08:17,600 Speaker 3: and also the external factors that we have no control 164 00:08:17,600 --> 00:08:21,120 Speaker 3: over the economy, the job market, and other decisions around us. 165 00:08:21,400 --> 00:08:23,840 Speaker 3: And so what I want people to understand when we 166 00:08:23,880 --> 00:08:25,800 Speaker 3: are focused so much, and this is what happened to me. 167 00:08:26,040 --> 00:08:28,160 Speaker 3: I was so focused for period of my life on 168 00:08:28,280 --> 00:08:33,240 Speaker 3: professional success, that is occupational health, which I call happy work. 169 00:08:33,480 --> 00:08:37,079 Speaker 3: What we do, we take our identity and we base 170 00:08:37,120 --> 00:08:42,079 Speaker 3: it solely on salary and the title we hold at 171 00:08:42,080 --> 00:08:44,760 Speaker 3: this job, and so all these achievements. Well, if we 172 00:08:44,840 --> 00:08:49,439 Speaker 3: solely focus on occupational health and we excel to the 173 00:08:49,480 --> 00:08:54,120 Speaker 3: detriment of our mental and physical health, well guess what happens. 174 00:08:54,200 --> 00:08:56,960 Speaker 3: It's going to affect our finances, It's going to affect 175 00:08:57,480 --> 00:09:00,400 Speaker 3: every other aspects of our well being. And so for 176 00:09:00,440 --> 00:09:03,360 Speaker 3: this instance, when I was at a point when I 177 00:09:03,559 --> 00:09:06,600 Speaker 3: was like grinding away, climbing up the corporate ladder, and 178 00:09:06,640 --> 00:09:09,240 Speaker 3: it became VP of Marketing and Business Development for this 179 00:09:09,320 --> 00:09:14,319 Speaker 3: financial institution. While I was suffering mentally, I was emotionally drained, 180 00:09:14,800 --> 00:09:19,600 Speaker 3: and that psychological distress was manifesting itself physically. So I 181 00:09:19,640 --> 00:09:22,839 Speaker 3: was getting sick. I developed vertigo, I had like pink 182 00:09:22,880 --> 00:09:25,199 Speaker 3: eye or red eyes for two weeks. My eyes were 183 00:09:25,240 --> 00:09:28,080 Speaker 3: bleeding for two weeks, and I couldn't get out of bed. 184 00:09:28,520 --> 00:09:30,440 Speaker 3: And then when I couldn't get out of bed, I 185 00:09:30,480 --> 00:09:34,280 Speaker 3: felt useless and it started affecting my social well being 186 00:09:34,360 --> 00:09:36,720 Speaker 3: because I didn't want to hang out with friends or family. 187 00:09:37,240 --> 00:09:39,560 Speaker 3: And then I felt this void in my life because 188 00:09:39,559 --> 00:09:42,200 Speaker 3: something that I was passionate about at that time, climbing 189 00:09:42,280 --> 00:09:44,880 Speaker 3: up the career ladder, was affected me spiritually. And so 190 00:09:44,920 --> 00:09:47,239 Speaker 3: for me, I want people to understand, like these dimensions 191 00:09:47,240 --> 00:09:52,880 Speaker 3: are interconnected, they're overlapping, and so once you understand these 192 00:09:52,880 --> 00:09:57,199 Speaker 3: eight dimensions and how they there's there intersectionality of them, 193 00:09:57,600 --> 00:10:01,640 Speaker 3: it is a powerful life changing way of looking at yourself. 194 00:10:01,920 --> 00:10:03,920 Speaker 2: Honestly, Jayson, I was just telling her friend of mine, 195 00:10:03,960 --> 00:10:06,040 Speaker 2: like literally, I was like super excited. I was telling 196 00:10:06,040 --> 00:10:07,840 Speaker 2: her a friend of mine, about your book, and I 197 00:10:07,920 --> 00:10:10,800 Speaker 2: was telling him that like, yo, I you know you 198 00:10:11,000 --> 00:10:13,880 Speaker 2: kind of you understand that obviously there are components to 199 00:10:13,920 --> 00:10:16,760 Speaker 2: your life, but I could never understand why to your point, 200 00:10:16,800 --> 00:10:18,440 Speaker 2: when I was making the most amount of money I've 201 00:10:18,440 --> 00:10:20,120 Speaker 2: ever made, I was so miserable. 202 00:10:20,600 --> 00:10:23,679 Speaker 1: My blood pressure had spiked. It was like, and now 203 00:10:23,760 --> 00:10:24,920 Speaker 1: I have to honestly. 204 00:10:24,559 --> 00:10:29,040 Speaker 2: Say, you know that despite all that's happened, you know, 205 00:10:29,160 --> 00:10:31,760 Speaker 2: I am in a space of grief, grace and gratitude, 206 00:10:32,360 --> 00:10:35,400 Speaker 2: you know, and I'm actually happy. And I'm like how 207 00:10:35,480 --> 00:10:38,439 Speaker 2: And I was literally I pulled up the eight dimensions 208 00:10:38,480 --> 00:10:42,120 Speaker 2: and I said, oh, I'm happy because every aspect of 209 00:10:42,120 --> 00:10:45,600 Speaker 2: these dimensions I am present in. You know, because before 210 00:10:45,600 --> 00:10:47,520 Speaker 2: I wasn't hanging out that it was just BUDGETIESA. There 211 00:10:47,600 --> 00:10:50,320 Speaker 2: was no Tiffany, so the social out the window. I 212 00:10:50,360 --> 00:10:52,800 Speaker 2: had gained thirty pounds, my blood pressure had spiked, so 213 00:10:52,920 --> 00:10:56,240 Speaker 2: physical was not being looked after financial. I mean, I 214 00:10:56,280 --> 00:10:58,000 Speaker 2: was good as far as money, but that was about it. 215 00:10:58,160 --> 00:10:59,280 Speaker 2: Every other part. 216 00:10:59,080 --> 00:11:01,559 Speaker 1: Of my life was out of alignment. 217 00:11:02,040 --> 00:11:03,840 Speaker 2: And so I thought like, well, I thought, if I 218 00:11:03,880 --> 00:11:05,720 Speaker 2: work really hard and I'm making really good money and 219 00:11:05,840 --> 00:11:08,480 Speaker 2: I'm helping people, that it should be enough. It wasn't 220 00:11:08,720 --> 00:11:13,679 Speaker 2: because I was not looking at myself holistically and so 221 00:11:13,720 --> 00:11:15,839 Speaker 2: that's why I love because you know, one of the things, 222 00:11:15,880 --> 00:11:17,520 Speaker 2: that's one of the things I love about you as 223 00:11:17,559 --> 00:11:19,920 Speaker 2: a person, but also the fact that you wrote this 224 00:11:19,960 --> 00:11:22,840 Speaker 2: book to talk about that. You know, we talk about money, 225 00:11:23,160 --> 00:11:26,040 Speaker 2: but I always say it's really not money. You know 226 00:11:26,080 --> 00:11:28,600 Speaker 2: that I want people to use money to live. Well, now, 227 00:11:28,760 --> 00:11:30,600 Speaker 2: how do you do that? And I feel like with 228 00:11:30,679 --> 00:11:34,079 Speaker 2: Happy Money, Happy Life, you know, that's what you that's 229 00:11:34,120 --> 00:11:36,079 Speaker 2: what you talk about, like how do you use your 230 00:11:36,080 --> 00:11:38,079 Speaker 2: money as a tool. 231 00:11:37,559 --> 00:11:40,040 Speaker 1: You know, not the goal itself. So thank you for that. 232 00:11:40,080 --> 00:11:41,880 Speaker 2: So we're actually going to jump to a quick break 233 00:11:42,000 --> 00:11:44,319 Speaker 2: because you know, we all we get to chalkin, right. 234 00:11:44,400 --> 00:11:47,320 Speaker 2: So we've got Jason vitug A frugal but this new book, 235 00:11:47,360 --> 00:11:51,160 Speaker 2: Happy Money, Happy Life will be right back black and Brown. 236 00:11:53,440 --> 00:11:56,840 Speaker 2: And we're back in Black and Brown, super excited. We 237 00:11:56,840 --> 00:11:59,439 Speaker 2: have Jason in the studio and this too with us 238 00:12:00,320 --> 00:12:06,320 Speaker 2: talking about multidimensionality or talking about happy Money, Happy Life, 239 00:12:06,360 --> 00:12:09,920 Speaker 2: his new book. So, Jason, while we're back, you did 240 00:12:09,920 --> 00:12:12,760 Speaker 2: something with my dream catches the other day that was amazing. 241 00:12:12,880 --> 00:12:14,520 Speaker 1: So I'm going to put you on the spot. 242 00:12:14,960 --> 00:12:17,920 Speaker 2: You did just a really quick breathing activity and I'd 243 00:12:17,960 --> 00:12:19,439 Speaker 2: like for you to just walk us through this like 244 00:12:19,480 --> 00:12:23,120 Speaker 2: two or three minute breathing activity, even if you're driving, 245 00:12:23,160 --> 00:12:24,440 Speaker 2: you have the kids or whatever. If you can't do 246 00:12:24,480 --> 00:12:27,439 Speaker 2: it now, that's okay. Look at the time stamp of 247 00:12:28,440 --> 00:12:31,719 Speaker 2: this activity on the video or the audio that you're 248 00:12:31,720 --> 00:12:33,120 Speaker 2: watching so you can come back to it. And I 249 00:12:33,120 --> 00:12:35,120 Speaker 2: want Jason to lead us through because when I tell you, 250 00:12:35,200 --> 00:12:36,720 Speaker 2: it chilled me, y'all know I'm hyper. 251 00:12:36,960 --> 00:12:39,079 Speaker 1: It chilled me all the way out. So Jason, the 252 00:12:39,160 --> 00:12:41,240 Speaker 1: floor is yours. Thank you so much. 253 00:12:41,400 --> 00:12:43,040 Speaker 3: So I want to preface this because I think it's 254 00:12:43,080 --> 00:12:45,920 Speaker 3: important for people to understand why I am a breathwork 255 00:12:46,000 --> 00:12:48,640 Speaker 3: specialist and why this is part of my daily routine, 256 00:12:48,760 --> 00:12:51,120 Speaker 3: because there are just so many things happening in this world. 257 00:12:51,360 --> 00:12:54,040 Speaker 3: There's so many things that cause us stress in our lives, 258 00:12:54,320 --> 00:12:56,320 Speaker 3: and so it's not just financial. And so for me, 259 00:12:56,440 --> 00:12:59,760 Speaker 3: discovering breath work was a life changing kind of for 260 00:13:00,640 --> 00:13:03,400 Speaker 3: and what I've been doing is incorporating it in these 261 00:13:03,440 --> 00:13:05,720 Speaker 3: talks becuse it it's such a powerful way for us 262 00:13:05,840 --> 00:13:09,240 Speaker 3: to address our nervous system, because our nervous system is 263 00:13:09,280 --> 00:13:12,920 Speaker 3: like it's all hyped up. And so what I do 264 00:13:12,960 --> 00:13:15,319 Speaker 3: want to say is that when you get an opportunity 265 00:13:16,440 --> 00:13:19,160 Speaker 3: go back to this timestamp. And so you could do 266 00:13:19,240 --> 00:13:23,439 Speaker 3: this in a safe space, because when we're working with breath, 267 00:13:23,520 --> 00:13:26,760 Speaker 3: it will change how you feel in your body. And 268 00:13:26,800 --> 00:13:29,720 Speaker 3: so if you're in a safe space right now, I 269 00:13:29,760 --> 00:13:33,440 Speaker 3: want you to gently kind of lift up your body, 270 00:13:33,520 --> 00:13:37,240 Speaker 3: feel that energy flowing from from your core all the 271 00:13:37,240 --> 00:13:40,920 Speaker 3: way up to your head, nice and tall back, Relax 272 00:13:41,160 --> 00:13:46,000 Speaker 3: your shoulders, allow your chin to drop gently towards your chest. 273 00:13:46,600 --> 00:13:49,640 Speaker 3: You can close your eyes if you want to, if 274 00:13:49,640 --> 00:13:54,200 Speaker 3: you feel comfortable, and just be present in this moment. 275 00:13:55,640 --> 00:13:59,480 Speaker 3: And I want you to start noticing where your breath 276 00:13:59,800 --> 00:14:06,199 Speaker 3: and your body through the nose, perhaps through your mouth, 277 00:14:07,600 --> 00:14:13,640 Speaker 3: and feeling that sensation of air through your nostrils through 278 00:14:13,679 --> 00:14:18,640 Speaker 3: your body and filling up your lungs and just being 279 00:14:18,760 --> 00:14:26,200 Speaker 3: present with that force. Now as you get in touch 280 00:14:26,760 --> 00:14:30,560 Speaker 3: and feel this pull of gravity in any parts of 281 00:14:30,600 --> 00:14:33,840 Speaker 3: your body that's touching the floor, we're gonna work with 282 00:14:33,920 --> 00:14:37,960 Speaker 3: manipulating your breath. We're gonna go and take a nice 283 00:14:37,960 --> 00:14:41,960 Speaker 3: deep in hell through your nose, filling your lungs up 284 00:14:42,000 --> 00:14:49,280 Speaker 3: with air and releasing through your mouth with a sigh. 285 00:14:49,720 --> 00:14:55,080 Speaker 3: Let's do that in hell through your nose, filling your 286 00:14:55,160 --> 00:14:59,440 Speaker 3: lungs up with air and releasing through your mouth with 287 00:14:59,520 --> 00:15:05,000 Speaker 3: a sigh, and allow yourself to do this a few 288 00:15:05,000 --> 00:15:09,040 Speaker 3: more times. And the power of this is that we 289 00:15:09,160 --> 00:15:14,440 Speaker 3: hold so much tension around our jawline, around our mouth, 290 00:15:15,200 --> 00:15:18,880 Speaker 3: so you're probably noticing there's that tension there. And by 291 00:15:18,880 --> 00:15:22,560 Speaker 3: simply breathing in through our nose and intentionally and mindfully 292 00:15:22,600 --> 00:15:26,560 Speaker 3: exhaling through our mouth with that sigh, we're allowing our 293 00:15:26,600 --> 00:15:33,320 Speaker 3: body to remain still, to be present, to relax. And 294 00:15:33,400 --> 00:15:36,320 Speaker 3: let's take one more deep inhale through the nose, and 295 00:15:36,360 --> 00:15:38,680 Speaker 3: I want you to hold it at the top for 296 00:15:38,760 --> 00:15:47,480 Speaker 3: three seconds one, two, three, and then release two allow 297 00:15:47,520 --> 00:15:52,040 Speaker 3: yourself And now as you get in and are in 298 00:15:52,080 --> 00:15:55,520 Speaker 3: your body, I want you to start gently wiggling your fingers, 299 00:15:55,960 --> 00:16:00,119 Speaker 3: wingling your toes, allow yourself to come back into the room, 300 00:16:00,560 --> 00:16:04,160 Speaker 3: and welcome back into this three D physical world. 301 00:16:05,080 --> 00:16:09,440 Speaker 2: That was so amazing, Jason, Honestly, it just it just 302 00:16:09,960 --> 00:16:12,000 Speaker 2: this is one of the things that like I appreciate 303 00:16:12,080 --> 00:16:14,080 Speaker 2: most about you, that this is what you bring to 304 00:16:14,120 --> 00:16:17,320 Speaker 2: the financial space in a special way that I don't 305 00:16:17,320 --> 00:16:19,360 Speaker 2: know that there's anybody you know, no one on that 306 00:16:19,440 --> 00:16:21,040 Speaker 2: I know no one that I followed, no one that 307 00:16:21,040 --> 00:16:25,200 Speaker 2: I've read up about that approaches personal finance from this space. 308 00:16:25,920 --> 00:16:30,480 Speaker 2: You know, this fully grounded, this fully like you know, 309 00:16:30,680 --> 00:16:33,600 Speaker 2: just breath work and personal finance. It just doesn't seem 310 00:16:33,640 --> 00:16:36,920 Speaker 2: like it matches, but it does. Imagine doing a breathwork 311 00:16:37,120 --> 00:16:39,480 Speaker 2: exercise before you sit down and budget with your partner, 312 00:16:40,480 --> 00:16:44,440 Speaker 2: you know, Imagine doing yoga moves every Saturday, and you know, 313 00:16:45,200 --> 00:16:48,760 Speaker 2: before you do your budget for the week. You know, Like, 314 00:16:49,200 --> 00:16:51,920 Speaker 2: I just love that, Like this is the space, This 315 00:16:52,000 --> 00:16:55,840 Speaker 2: is the unique beauty that you bring to this, this 316 00:16:55,920 --> 00:16:59,520 Speaker 2: personal finance space. And I just you know, I hope 317 00:16:59,520 --> 00:17:01,560 Speaker 2: you all, you know you're listening, if you got a 318 00:17:01,640 --> 00:17:03,440 Speaker 2: chance to do a little bit that's short, a little 319 00:17:03,440 --> 00:17:06,119 Speaker 2: bit of breath work that you know you're feeling as 320 00:17:06,119 --> 00:17:07,840 Speaker 2: calm as I am, that you can tell my voices 321 00:17:07,880 --> 00:17:11,399 Speaker 2: totally changed. I'm like, yeah, I'm so chilly, you know, 322 00:17:11,600 --> 00:17:15,040 Speaker 2: but like, but I know it hasn't always been easy, 323 00:17:15,440 --> 00:17:17,960 Speaker 2: you know for you, Jason, and I think it'd be 324 00:17:18,000 --> 00:17:19,399 Speaker 2: good for people to hear. I know you shared a 325 00:17:19,400 --> 00:17:21,800 Speaker 2: little bit of like how you got here, you know, 326 00:17:21,960 --> 00:17:24,359 Speaker 2: but you know, just maybe diving deeper into how you 327 00:17:24,400 --> 00:17:26,800 Speaker 2: got here and why did you write this book so 328 00:17:26,840 --> 00:17:28,720 Speaker 2: we can go on the journey with you. 329 00:17:29,080 --> 00:17:31,320 Speaker 3: Yeah, well, thank you for that. I want people to 330 00:17:31,400 --> 00:17:35,120 Speaker 3: understand that we all have personal journeys, and our journey 331 00:17:35,200 --> 00:17:40,520 Speaker 3: isn't this straight linear upward trajectory, and it isn't just 332 00:17:40,640 --> 00:17:44,320 Speaker 3: a downward trend either. And for me, I've had ups 333 00:17:44,359 --> 00:17:47,040 Speaker 3: and downs, twists and turns. I thought I had it 334 00:17:47,080 --> 00:17:50,040 Speaker 3: all figured out. Well, I thought I had it all 335 00:17:50,080 --> 00:17:52,320 Speaker 3: figured out when I quit my corporate job and went 336 00:17:52,359 --> 00:17:56,760 Speaker 3: backpacking around the world discovering my purpose. And discovering my 337 00:17:56,840 --> 00:18:00,000 Speaker 3: purpose wasn't the end to my story. When I started 338 00:18:00,240 --> 00:18:03,520 Speaker 3: frugal and I started on this mission becoming me financial 339 00:18:03,680 --> 00:18:07,760 Speaker 3: educator and incorporating health and wealth, that wasn't really the 340 00:18:07,800 --> 00:18:11,000 Speaker 3: case because I got pulled into the entrepreneurial hustle. So 341 00:18:11,520 --> 00:18:15,240 Speaker 3: when I was hustling in corporate America and then I 342 00:18:15,280 --> 00:18:19,120 Speaker 3: was hustling in the entrepreneurial world, I was experiencing the 343 00:18:19,160 --> 00:18:24,320 Speaker 3: same burnout. I was experiencing the same issues. The physical 344 00:18:24,359 --> 00:18:28,320 Speaker 3: manifestations of all the mental gymnastics that I was doing 345 00:18:28,920 --> 00:18:31,360 Speaker 3: was causing me a great deal of distress and now 346 00:18:31,400 --> 00:18:35,600 Speaker 3: affecting me professionally in the work that I absolutely loved 347 00:18:35,600 --> 00:18:39,440 Speaker 3: doing and then impacting my finances. And so there was 348 00:18:39,480 --> 00:18:42,479 Speaker 3: a point in my life, tiffany where, just like you, 349 00:18:42,720 --> 00:18:45,199 Speaker 3: I reached this level of financial success and I'm like, 350 00:18:45,240 --> 00:18:47,720 Speaker 3: I'm at the top of my game. I'm getting paid 351 00:18:47,760 --> 00:18:50,679 Speaker 3: tens of thousands of dollars to speak for one hour, 352 00:18:51,320 --> 00:18:55,240 Speaker 3: and coming from a city like Elizabeth, New Jersey, the 353 00:18:55,280 --> 00:18:58,680 Speaker 3: fourth largest city, growing up where we lived in seventeen 354 00:18:58,720 --> 00:19:02,800 Speaker 3: different houses, where we didn't talk about money. I didn't 355 00:19:02,840 --> 00:19:06,399 Speaker 3: have luxury goods, we didn't go on fancy vacations, and 356 00:19:06,480 --> 00:19:09,960 Speaker 3: like growing up with just the essentials and not knowing 357 00:19:10,000 --> 00:19:13,600 Speaker 3: about the how the other half lives did impact me. 358 00:19:13,840 --> 00:19:16,399 Speaker 3: And so when I achieved these financial success and I 359 00:19:16,440 --> 00:19:18,600 Speaker 3: thought that's how, that's what's going to make me happy. 360 00:19:19,000 --> 00:19:22,880 Speaker 3: And when I achieve that level of professional and financial success, 361 00:19:23,560 --> 00:19:25,560 Speaker 3: there were still all these other things I needed to 362 00:19:25,560 --> 00:19:29,880 Speaker 3: work on. And so for me, just getting the becoming 363 00:19:30,200 --> 00:19:37,120 Speaker 3: mentally drained, emotionally exhausted, physically ill just affected my professional 364 00:19:37,119 --> 00:19:41,119 Speaker 3: and financial success. So I started making bad financial decisions 365 00:19:41,560 --> 00:19:43,960 Speaker 3: and I was actually really ashamed of that. And that 366 00:19:44,480 --> 00:19:46,280 Speaker 3: has a lot to do with like, Okay, well you 367 00:19:46,440 --> 00:19:50,240 Speaker 3: are a money expert. How could you make financial mistakes 368 00:19:50,320 --> 00:19:54,440 Speaker 3: as a money expert? And I was making those mistakes 369 00:19:54,480 --> 00:19:58,680 Speaker 3: at the height of my quote unquote financial influence. And 370 00:19:58,760 --> 00:20:01,880 Speaker 3: for me, it's realized saying that this is a journey 371 00:20:02,320 --> 00:20:05,679 Speaker 3: of ups and downs and twists and turns, and I 372 00:20:05,760 --> 00:20:09,000 Speaker 3: have the opportunity, as long as there's air in my lungs, 373 00:20:09,359 --> 00:20:11,800 Speaker 3: as long as I am motivated to get up and 374 00:20:11,840 --> 00:20:16,320 Speaker 3: do the work, that I can have a different path. 375 00:20:16,359 --> 00:20:18,639 Speaker 3: I can take a different path, I can choose, I 376 00:20:18,720 --> 00:20:22,240 Speaker 3: make different choices, And so for me, I've no longer 377 00:20:22,320 --> 00:20:26,520 Speaker 3: have the shame, the guilt, the embarrassment of my financial mistakes. 378 00:20:26,920 --> 00:20:29,600 Speaker 3: And I certainly know that as I continue on this journey, 379 00:20:29,920 --> 00:20:33,119 Speaker 3: I'll probably make a few more financial mistakes. But the 380 00:20:33,160 --> 00:20:36,439 Speaker 3: message I want people to understand is that money is 381 00:20:36,520 --> 00:20:40,080 Speaker 3: just one aspect of who we are, and if we 382 00:20:40,160 --> 00:20:45,639 Speaker 3: can remove the small little stresses of our financial life, 383 00:20:46,160 --> 00:20:48,720 Speaker 3: we can then focus on other aspects of our well being. 384 00:20:49,440 --> 00:20:50,640 Speaker 1: And so for that. 385 00:20:50,600 --> 00:20:52,399 Speaker 3: Little short thing is I just want people to know 386 00:20:52,520 --> 00:20:56,760 Speaker 3: I still don't have it all figured out, but getting 387 00:20:56,760 --> 00:21:02,119 Speaker 3: my money right, understanding where work takes presidents in my 388 00:21:02,200 --> 00:21:06,439 Speaker 3: well being and everything else, like I'm working towards that 389 00:21:06,520 --> 00:21:09,160 Speaker 3: holistic wellness that I want everyone else to be on 390 00:21:09,240 --> 00:21:09,960 Speaker 3: in this journey. 391 00:21:10,440 --> 00:21:12,879 Speaker 2: If you follow him Jason Vita j A. S O 392 00:21:13,000 --> 00:21:17,280 Speaker 2: n v I Tug fanatic, Okay, you'll see like you'll 393 00:21:17,280 --> 00:21:19,199 Speaker 2: get to You're not just gonna get money stuff, You're 394 00:21:19,200 --> 00:21:20,760 Speaker 2: gonna get him. I just saw you were walking your 395 00:21:20,760 --> 00:21:22,880 Speaker 2: dog in the park for your daily walk. 396 00:21:22,920 --> 00:21:23,480 Speaker 1: I love that. 397 00:21:23,720 --> 00:21:26,040 Speaker 2: One of the things I like. So there's like chapter 398 00:21:26,080 --> 00:21:27,639 Speaker 2: I think it's like chapter five to ten. Can you 399 00:21:27,720 --> 00:21:29,800 Speaker 2: read some of the chapter titles? I love that, Like 400 00:21:29,840 --> 00:21:32,280 Speaker 2: how you weave did It's like happy soul happy? 401 00:21:32,320 --> 00:21:32,840 Speaker 1: What is it? 402 00:21:32,960 --> 00:21:33,200 Speaker 2: Yeah? 403 00:21:33,280 --> 00:21:35,280 Speaker 3: Yeah, So I want people to understand, like there is 404 00:21:35,320 --> 00:21:38,480 Speaker 3: these wellness dimensions and I call them happy dimensions. How 405 00:21:38,520 --> 00:21:42,119 Speaker 3: we can incorporate the happy dimensions into our life. So 406 00:21:42,280 --> 00:21:47,879 Speaker 3: mental health is happy mind, Emotional health is happy heart, 407 00:21:48,560 --> 00:21:51,880 Speaker 3: physical health is happy body. And then you have your 408 00:21:51,920 --> 00:21:56,040 Speaker 3: spiritual that's happy spirit. Your social wellbeing, right, the people 409 00:21:56,080 --> 00:22:00,359 Speaker 3: that's around you, that's happy social, Occupational, that's your work, 410 00:22:00,400 --> 00:22:04,880 Speaker 3: it's happy work. Environmental, the physical places you inhabit and 411 00:22:04,960 --> 00:22:08,080 Speaker 3: live that does effect that does affect your well being, 412 00:22:08,240 --> 00:22:13,119 Speaker 3: that's happy space. And your financial health that's happy money 413 00:22:13,280 --> 00:22:16,040 Speaker 3: and so love that. Yeah, I just think it's just 414 00:22:16,119 --> 00:22:18,919 Speaker 3: a way, like think about your wellness as these in 415 00:22:18,960 --> 00:22:22,400 Speaker 3: these happy dimensions, and we need to figure out how 416 00:22:22,440 --> 00:22:24,880 Speaker 3: we can again utilize money as a tool to help 417 00:22:25,000 --> 00:22:27,040 Speaker 3: us in these things. And when you mentioned like we 418 00:22:27,119 --> 00:22:30,440 Speaker 3: talk about money is a tool, and I like people 419 00:22:30,480 --> 00:22:33,840 Speaker 3: to think of money as a tool to create fill 420 00:22:33,880 --> 00:22:36,399 Speaker 3: in the blank. So what do you want money to 421 00:22:36,480 --> 00:22:39,760 Speaker 3: create in your life? Because a lot of these financial gurus, 422 00:22:39,800 --> 00:22:43,400 Speaker 3: what do they talk about? They talk about specific financial milestones. 423 00:22:43,440 --> 00:22:45,119 Speaker 3: They talk about how much you need on your four 424 00:22:45,240 --> 00:22:48,280 Speaker 3: one K, your investments, your savings accounts. Those things are 425 00:22:48,320 --> 00:22:51,600 Speaker 3: important because it's going to help you improve your financial health, 426 00:22:52,000 --> 00:22:55,200 Speaker 3: your happy money. Now you have to understand, once you 427 00:22:55,240 --> 00:22:59,320 Speaker 3: get to that point, or you're working towards achieving those 428 00:22:59,440 --> 00:23:05,080 Speaker 3: investments numbers or those financial numbers, don't forget your happy mind, 429 00:23:05,400 --> 00:23:09,040 Speaker 3: your happy heart, your happy body, your happy spirit. You 430 00:23:09,040 --> 00:23:13,640 Speaker 3: could work towards happy money while you're working towards lifting 431 00:23:13,800 --> 00:23:15,399 Speaker 3: or strengthening those other dimensions. 432 00:23:15,520 --> 00:23:17,840 Speaker 1: I love that, honestly. Yeah, we have Jason V. 433 00:23:17,960 --> 00:23:20,959 Speaker 2: Tug here, you know, Happy Money, Happy Life available at 434 00:23:20,960 --> 00:23:23,080 Speaker 2: Happy Money, happylifebook dot com. 435 00:23:23,119 --> 00:23:25,800 Speaker 1: Get you a copy, Okay, any last words, Jason. 436 00:23:26,200 --> 00:23:28,600 Speaker 2: You know, like if someone wanted to start, if someone's like, 437 00:23:28,640 --> 00:23:30,560 Speaker 2: I don't want to just look at my money, what's 438 00:23:30,560 --> 00:23:32,919 Speaker 2: something that I can besides picking up your book? You 439 00:23:32,960 --> 00:23:35,440 Speaker 2: know what's something that I can do today to start 440 00:23:35,480 --> 00:23:38,040 Speaker 2: to incorporate a more holistic approach to my money. 441 00:23:38,200 --> 00:23:41,560 Speaker 3: Well aside from the financial tactics that we talk about 442 00:23:41,640 --> 00:23:43,680 Speaker 3: and you do so well with Get Good with Money. 443 00:23:44,000 --> 00:23:46,480 Speaker 3: Get that copy of the book, because that is a 444 00:23:46,680 --> 00:23:51,640 Speaker 3: holistic way to get your financial wholeness going. The first 445 00:23:51,680 --> 00:23:56,240 Speaker 3: step I would recommend is just paying attention to your breath. 446 00:23:56,480 --> 00:23:59,320 Speaker 3: We did breath work. So the one key thing that 447 00:23:59,359 --> 00:24:02,159 Speaker 3: when I meet someone, I know how they are doing 448 00:24:02,400 --> 00:24:07,320 Speaker 3: based on how they're breathing. They have short, quick breaths 449 00:24:07,359 --> 00:24:09,760 Speaker 3: coming out of their mouth. I know that they're going 450 00:24:09,800 --> 00:24:13,120 Speaker 3: through something, and so the way I interact with them 451 00:24:13,119 --> 00:24:15,320 Speaker 3: will be a bit different. I will give them space 452 00:24:15,400 --> 00:24:18,000 Speaker 3: and grace that they need. And if I see someone 453 00:24:18,040 --> 00:24:21,040 Speaker 3: who has calm and collected yes, then I know that 454 00:24:21,600 --> 00:24:24,199 Speaker 3: we could have a different type of conversation. So they 455 00:24:24,240 --> 00:24:27,400 Speaker 3: want you to do is become aware of how you're breathing. 456 00:24:27,840 --> 00:24:30,480 Speaker 3: Are you breathing through your nose or are you're breathing 457 00:24:30,480 --> 00:24:34,880 Speaker 3: through your mouth, is your jaw clenched? Do you feel 458 00:24:34,920 --> 00:24:37,919 Speaker 3: like you're not getting enough air and you're gasping? And 459 00:24:37,960 --> 00:24:40,040 Speaker 3: the reason why I want you to pay attention to 460 00:24:40,119 --> 00:24:44,240 Speaker 3: that is because your physical body is sharing something about 461 00:24:44,280 --> 00:24:48,600 Speaker 3: your mental and emotional state through breathing. And if you 462 00:24:48,720 --> 00:24:53,280 Speaker 3: are unable to fully breathe be in your body, it 463 00:24:53,320 --> 00:24:55,719 Speaker 3: is really hard to budget. It is really hard to 464 00:24:55,720 --> 00:24:58,280 Speaker 3: have that conversation with your partner, it's really hard to 465 00:24:58,320 --> 00:25:02,360 Speaker 3: get on the phone and and try to negotiate your 466 00:25:02,400 --> 00:25:03,840 Speaker 3: service contracts and things like that. 467 00:25:04,200 --> 00:25:05,320 Speaker 1: So that is the first step. 468 00:25:05,359 --> 00:25:07,120 Speaker 3: And I think that is such an eye opening thing 469 00:25:07,160 --> 00:25:09,280 Speaker 3: when you go and you may not notice it for yourself, 470 00:25:09,320 --> 00:25:11,760 Speaker 3: but the next time you speak with someone and you 471 00:25:11,800 --> 00:25:14,560 Speaker 3: see that they're holding their breath, that they're breathing through 472 00:25:14,560 --> 00:25:16,879 Speaker 3: their mouths, it's say, that's kind of one of the 473 00:25:16,960 --> 00:25:19,320 Speaker 3: key things. And so I'm known now to go it's like, hey, 474 00:25:19,400 --> 00:25:22,480 Speaker 3: how are you doing? And then it's and then they'll 475 00:25:22,480 --> 00:25:24,120 Speaker 3: open up. And that just has to do with paying 476 00:25:24,119 --> 00:25:27,760 Speaker 3: attention to the breath. And I think I want everyone 477 00:25:28,520 --> 00:25:31,880 Speaker 3: to be at home just just be cognizance. I'm planting 478 00:25:31,920 --> 00:25:35,120 Speaker 3: this little seed in your mind, be cognizant of how 479 00:25:35,119 --> 00:25:39,200 Speaker 3: you're breathing, and learn more about these breath work techniques. 480 00:25:39,640 --> 00:25:43,119 Speaker 3: And I actually have thirty different We did one, we 481 00:25:43,160 --> 00:25:45,840 Speaker 3: did two now with the dream Catchers and Hear Brand Ambition, 482 00:25:45,960 --> 00:25:47,679 Speaker 3: but there are more than thirty. 483 00:25:47,720 --> 00:25:49,040 Speaker 1: But there are thirty. 484 00:25:48,720 --> 00:25:52,720 Speaker 3: Breath work techniques that can help you get energized and 485 00:25:52,800 --> 00:25:55,840 Speaker 3: also that calm down and help you sleep. And so 486 00:25:56,560 --> 00:25:59,320 Speaker 3: breath is such a powerful force when it comes to 487 00:26:00,280 --> 00:26:03,399 Speaker 3: healing our mental emotional state as well as healing our 488 00:26:03,400 --> 00:26:04,120 Speaker 3: money traumas. 489 00:26:04,560 --> 00:26:07,639 Speaker 1: Jason, honestly, it's just so amazing, isn't he amazing? Guys? 490 00:26:07,680 --> 00:26:10,439 Speaker 2: Honestly, this is Can I make a suggestion for you, Jason, 491 00:26:10,680 --> 00:26:13,120 Speaker 2: so you know when people go to Happy Money, Happy Life, 492 00:26:13,160 --> 00:26:14,639 Speaker 2: you know, I know right now it's pointing to like 493 00:26:14,680 --> 00:26:16,560 Speaker 2: Amazon or whatever, but I know you have a book page. 494 00:26:16,680 --> 00:26:19,840 Speaker 2: Can I suggest that you post maybe three to four 495 00:26:19,880 --> 00:26:22,480 Speaker 2: of those breath work activities on the book page, like 496 00:26:22,800 --> 00:26:25,240 Speaker 2: you know, via like a YouTube link, just so when 497 00:26:25,240 --> 00:26:26,960 Speaker 2: people come they know what tom Ity is. 498 00:26:27,000 --> 00:26:28,040 Speaker 1: And I just love that. 499 00:26:28,119 --> 00:26:31,280 Speaker 2: I think paying attention to your breath that just speaks 500 00:26:31,359 --> 00:26:34,639 Speaker 2: to who Jason is and how he shows up, Like 501 00:26:34,720 --> 00:26:38,720 Speaker 2: you know, that it's not this direct financial thing, it's 502 00:26:38,720 --> 00:26:41,800 Speaker 2: this indirect thing that will enable you to be more 503 00:26:41,840 --> 00:26:44,720 Speaker 2: successful with your money and beyond. So just Jason, thank 504 00:26:44,760 --> 00:26:46,840 Speaker 2: you so so so so much. Where can the people 505 00:26:46,840 --> 00:26:48,440 Speaker 2: find you? Where can they get your book? 506 00:26:48,520 --> 00:26:49,560 Speaker 1: Let us know? Well? 507 00:26:49,560 --> 00:26:50,359 Speaker 2: Thank you so much. 508 00:26:50,480 --> 00:26:52,320 Speaker 3: Well you inspired me, Tiffany. I just I do want 509 00:26:52,359 --> 00:26:54,480 Speaker 3: to say that you inspired me because a lot of 510 00:26:54,560 --> 00:26:56,719 Speaker 3: previous conversations in terms of how do I get more 511 00:26:56,760 --> 00:26:59,040 Speaker 3: people to understand the book really helped me out. I 512 00:26:59,119 --> 00:27:02,560 Speaker 3: also spoke with my brother John, who is a doctoral 513 00:27:03,320 --> 00:27:07,520 Speaker 3: candidate for a psychology degree, and he said, and you said, 514 00:27:07,920 --> 00:27:10,000 Speaker 3: I need to be more present in terms of like, 515 00:27:10,080 --> 00:27:11,840 Speaker 3: let me just show how this is done. And so 516 00:27:11,920 --> 00:27:14,280 Speaker 3: I decided to do wellness Wednesdays. I'm going to do 517 00:27:14,320 --> 00:27:18,680 Speaker 3: a ten to fifteen minute show live streaming on all 518 00:27:18,680 --> 00:27:21,639 Speaker 3: the platforms because you've you've educated me on how to 519 00:27:21,720 --> 00:27:24,320 Speaker 3: do that, and I want people to understand that we 520 00:27:24,359 --> 00:27:27,199 Speaker 3: can talk about stress, job related or financial stress or 521 00:27:27,200 --> 00:27:31,200 Speaker 3: whatever stress, but then using these tactical breath work techniques 522 00:27:31,359 --> 00:27:34,639 Speaker 3: and also chair yoga. People don't know I do chaer yoga, 523 00:27:34,800 --> 00:27:37,000 Speaker 3: so you could do yoga while you're sitting at your desk, 524 00:27:37,000 --> 00:27:39,159 Speaker 3: so you get your body moving and it changes and 525 00:27:39,160 --> 00:27:41,840 Speaker 3: shifts your mind. So with that said, I do encourage 526 00:27:41,840 --> 00:27:45,000 Speaker 3: you to follow me on social medium active on Instagram 527 00:27:45,040 --> 00:27:48,119 Speaker 3: if you love travel and in yoga poses as I 528 00:27:48,400 --> 00:27:51,200 Speaker 3: as I tell you when we do asanas, you breathe 529 00:27:51,200 --> 00:27:53,120 Speaker 3: in wealth, breathe out debt. 530 00:27:53,760 --> 00:27:54,520 Speaker 1: Yeah, and say it with me. 531 00:27:54,560 --> 00:27:57,480 Speaker 3: Everyone breathe in well, breathe out debt. 532 00:27:58,200 --> 00:28:00,359 Speaker 1: And so it's just it's. 533 00:28:00,320 --> 00:28:03,880 Speaker 3: Just how incorporate things. So follow me on Instagram and Twitter, 534 00:28:04,040 --> 00:28:06,920 Speaker 3: and connect with me on LinkedIn, and you could certainly 535 00:28:07,200 --> 00:28:10,240 Speaker 3: find more info about the book at Happy Money, Happy 536 00:28:10,280 --> 00:28:11,400 Speaker 3: lifebook dot com. 537 00:28:11,680 --> 00:28:14,480 Speaker 2: Yes, and so it's Jason Vitel and all those places, right, Jason, 538 00:28:14,680 --> 00:28:18,040 Speaker 2: Yes v t ug. Thank you, thank you, thank you, 539 00:28:18,160 --> 00:28:18,520 Speaker 2: thank you. 540 00:28:18,600 --> 00:28:18,959 Speaker 1: Jason. 541 00:28:18,960 --> 00:28:22,040 Speaker 2: You're always such a gift. It's a privilege and a 542 00:28:22,080 --> 00:28:24,119 Speaker 2: pleasure to have you on, but even more so to 543 00:28:24,160 --> 00:28:24,840 Speaker 2: call you friend. 544 00:28:25,080 --> 00:28:25,439 Speaker 3: Thank you. 545 00:28:26,760 --> 00:28:29,000 Speaker 4: Hey, ba fan, we could not do this show without 546 00:28:29,000 --> 00:28:32,080 Speaker 4: your support or the support of our team behind the scenes. 547 00:28:32,359 --> 00:28:35,960 Speaker 4: The Brown Emission podcast is produced by Cumulus Podcast Network. 548 00:28:36,040 --> 00:28:39,520 Speaker 4: It's edited by the wonderful Emani Crosby and produced by 549 00:28:39,560 --> 00:28:43,640 Speaker 4: Tanya Bustos. Dennis Stimplinsky is our in house tech guru 550 00:28:43,720 --> 00:28:46,520 Speaker 4: and I am Bandy Woodrid Santos, your co host, and 551 00:28:46,600 --> 00:28:50,520 Speaker 4: I will see y'all next week.